Comments by "" (@neutronalchemist3241) on "Forgotten Weapons" channel.

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  2. Today it can seem strange, but, in the first half of XX century, to design a detachable magazine that was at the same time so cheap to be discarded on the field, and so well and consistently built to not cause feeding problems was really an issue. The BAR and the BREN were plagued by jammings caused by defective magazines, and those had been built by countries that had not raw materials shortages. The British actually designed a fixed magazine for the BREN, loaded with two 15 rounds clips (they didn't adopt that, but it was really awkward compared to the Breda one). So, in 1924, FIAT came out with a LMG design (FIAT 1924) that had a fixed magazine on the left of the weapon, loaded inserting a 20 round clip (similar to that of the subsequent Breda) from the right. In exchange of a little time lost in recharging, all the feeding problems were avoided. The flaw was that, to load a MG inserting a clip from one side, the gunner, or the servent, had to expose himself a little, and, laterally pushing the weapon, they can move it, loosing the line of sight. So the Breda had the subsequent evolution. By tilting the magazine, in exchange of a little more time lost in recharging, the gunner could load the gun (and change the barrel, for that matter) without changing position at all. In the end, ten years later, at the start of WWII, it was an already outdated design, but it was actually not that bad. There is a tendency, on the net, when a weapon had some defect, tho extremize them, concluding that "it's the worst gun ever made!", "I would have rather fought naked than carrying that piece of junk!" and things like that. But those are modern days shenanigans. The contemporaries of the weapon, those that had to fight them daily, and reuse the captured ones, thought it was not that bad. From Tactical and Technical Trends (the magazine of the US Intelligence) No. 7, Sept. 10, 1942 "Use of Captured Italian weapons" : "Breda Light Machine Gun: The Breda light machine gun is similar to the British Bren gun. It is mechanically superior to the Bren gun under dusty conditions. It requires only one man to service it as compared to several for the Bren gun. It has a slightly higher rate of fire than the British weapon. Its disadvantages are that it has no carrying handle, cannot be fired on fixed lines, and has no tripod mounting". Mind that, to use 4 spare barrels (the number the Italians deemed to be necessary after having used the gun in combat), you have to fire at least 800 rounds in quick succession. So much for the gun not being capable to really provide automatic fire.
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  48.  @zoiders  You are not a WWI veteran, so you can stop talking down to people "from the field". Yours are no more than armchair guessing. Metallic link belts and magazines won, sorry. Canvas belt became obsolete. Metallic and canvas belt are not the same. There were no metallic belts in WWI. Magazines are still used. Canvas belt are not. The FIAT-Revelli magazine was a way to have a 50 rounds magazine in an era where simply staggered 50 rounds magazines would have been unreliable. A belt doesn't work everywere. A canvas belt easily collect mud and get wet. wetting the ammos too and mantaining them wet Storage and transport of canvas belts requires special attention. Refilling canvas belt in the field requires time and precision. Much more time and much more precision than refilling magazines. Canvas belt are damaged quite easily, and are easily subject to stretching or shrinking due to the weather. All the simplicity of the belt is paid in terms of complexity of the gun, since a cartridge has to be extracted backwards form the belt, then rised or lowered out of the way of the belt, then pushed into the chamber. A cartridge only has tro be pushed out of the magazine or strip. Belts require much more time to be changed than magazines or strips. To discard a damaged belt that causes feeding problems costs all the ammos in it. A damaged magazine or strip costs less ammos. Canvas belt are so problematic than even the advent of synthetic fibers, that would have solved some of their problems, didn't manage to save them from becoming obsolete.
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