General statistics
List of Youtube channels
Youtube commenter search
Distinguished comments
About
Forgotten Weapons
comments
Comments by "" (@neutronalchemist3241) on "Italy's M14: The BM-59 at the Range" video.
The doctrine of employ was that you didn't rely on ONE rifle for sustained automatic fire. Any rifleman, if he was in the right spot, could act as a LMG gunner and cover the others for brief time, then someone else would have covered him.
3
@TheGM-20XX The Italian Army massively sold it and its parts on the surplus market. Some sample is still in service for guard-parade, but it's no more in active service.
3
@TheGM-20XX What units?
3
Winchester tried, during the war, to convert M1 in 30-06. For that reason, they tried to use the BAR magazines, that are not very good, and work on the BAR thanks to the inertia of the heavy bolt. Also they tried to retain the bent op-rod of the M1 Garand, that ease extraction in semiauto, but interfere with the burst in full auto.
3
It's a grenade sight, when lifted up, it also acts as gas-cutoff. The rifle could shoot Energa and Super-Energa grenades. The original sling acts as a secondary grenade sight when the butt of the rifle is on the ground, the number of studs over the ground is the range in hundreds of meters.
3
It's a muzzle-brake/compensator and a grenade launcher and a flash hider, hence the name tri-compensator.
3
The problem was to use 7.62 NATO, for infantry rifle in the most efficient and cost-effective way. The result was a modification of the M1 Garand that, other than being a semiauto only rifle (like the FAL, the M14 and the G3 were), was a real grenade launcher (grenade sights, gas cutoff and winter trigger) and a real "emergency LMG" (tri-compensator and bipod) for the same weight and at a fraction of the cost of other battle rifles.
3
The FG-42 is more controllable, thanks to the inline stock. But it's also more expensive to build and less durable.
3
For the same reason none did. The FG42 is more complicate than issuing every soldier with a LMG. The competitor of the BM59, the Franchi LF59, had a tilting action similar to that of the STG44, but, being a modification of the Garand, the BM59 was much cheaper to produce.
2
Infact that was the intended tactic. Any member of the squad is a LMG gunner if he's in the right position. First he covers the others, then someone else covers him.
2
In the end, the M14 is a semiauto rifle only. A 20 rounds Garand. The selector lever was not even installed standard in infantry rifles. The BM59 is a 20 rounds Garand, AND an effective grenade launcher (grenade sights, gas cutoff and winter trigger) AND an occasional LMG (bipod and tri-compensator).
2
Proprietary mags, not rock and lock, but straight in. The improvements over the M14 were that, for the same weight, every single BM59 was an effective grenade launcher (grenade sights, gas cutoff, winter trigger) and an occasional LMG (muzzle-brake/compensator, bipod).
2
The Bernardelli Victor is one of the most interesting shotguns ever. Practically the action of a SVT40 with all the gas part removed, and it works thanks to a mix of mechanical disadvantage (the tilting bolt locks at a slight angle, so it's not perfectly locked) and inertia (of the bolt carrier that, pushed by recoil, lifts and unlock the bolt anyway if the mechanical disadvantage is too much for the load). The first models needed to change recoil spring between light and heavy loads. The subsequent ones didn't even need that.
2
@italianduded1161 The US patent for the firing mechanism, unfortunately partial, but the scheme of the bolt and bolt carrier is pretty clear, is the US2622359A The inventor is Baldassarre Belleri
2
They are identical.
2
It's a grenade sight, when lifted up, it also acts as gas-cutoff. The rifle could shoot Energa and Super-Energa grenades, the muzzle-brake/compensator is also a grenade launcher and a flash hider, hence the name "tri-compensator". The original sling acts as a secondary grenade sight when the butt of the rifle is on the ground, the number of studs over the ground is the range in hundreds of meters.
1
The grenade sights double as gas cutoff. When it's raised, the gas port is closed. If the soldier wants to launch the grenade from the ground, and the sights are not usable, the original sling double as an emergency sight. With the stock on the ground, the number of studs on the sling you can see off the ground is the distance in meters.
1
@mattholland8966 As said, the selector lever was not physically installed on M14 infantry rifles. It was given separately to the unit armorers "in case" and it remained in storage. The M14, as it was used in Vietnam, was a 20 rounds Garand.
1
How effective was the BAR? The BM59 can't really be fired in full auto from the shoulder, but it can be fired in full auto from prone position.
1
Very complex for a rifle.
1
It's a grenade launcher, AND a muzzle-brake/compensator AND a flash hider, hence the name "tri-compensator".
1
They are both rated for 750 RPM, that's higher than desiderable but, in the case of the BM59, there was little to do, since the receiver and trigger group had to be the same of the M1 Garand. BM59's competitor for the Italian Army contract, the Franchi LF59, had a "double hammer" system to reduce the ROF to 500 RPM, and be even more controllable.
1
In the Italian Army, the standard infantry wooden stok rifle is considered more controllable, and less punishing for the shoulder. In practice soldiers preferred to carry the folding stock versions, but use the fixed stock at the range.
1
The same peaceful Donetsk that used an AA missile illegaly smuggled from Russia to shoot down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, and tried to blame Ukrainians for that?
1
@stivsparrow3554 The "news"?😂 There had been a criminal case, more believable than any Russian shill.
1