Comments by "ZIPZ" (@zipz8423) on "Covert Cabal"
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The makers of the S-400, Almaz have publicly stated there are probably a million ways to counter their system, and that the US and Israelis probably have in their locker, most of those methods. It's a dangerous system if you ignore its capabilities, not so dangerous if you know how to circumvent it.
Over the last few years the Ukraine Air Force has been discussing how it's been defeating another system, the Pantsir with NATO defence evaluation bodies.
There's no such thing as an "unbeatable SAM".
Today the best means are with EW, spoofing , cruise missiles routed around its lethal MEZ bubble, flying low and attacking blind spots. There aren't that many SAM radar units with true 360 degree capability.
A good example was the day after the Barzeh research centre strike when the Syrians thought their AD system had detected inbound missiles, launched their interceptors , only to discover they were shooting at ghosts somebody put inside their processors.
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@Pablo, you are still thinking in one dimension, we aren't going to play into the hands of your county's super duper "see all radars" , all of those "brochure" numbers you constantly regurgitate are "best case" test scenarios where the "opposition" walks right into the teeth of those systems like a Duck crossing a highway.
Real life isn't like that son, every air war the US has taken part in should inform you of that fact.
Show me an air war in the last 40 years where the USAF was scythed down by Russian SAMS? Or the Israelis for that matter? Thats right you cant , for good reason. Counter AD is what we do.
We`re good an no , we dont take anything lightly, we plan, we test, we work around air defences, we train, we start the cycle again.
That S-400 system set up in Syria hasn't made the USAF or USN pause a single day in operations over Syria. Hell the Israelis would tie it up in knots.
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Sorry pal you are incorrect, tactical doctrine was "not" followed which led directly to the loss of the F-117.
My own estimation of the events was a mixture of methods used including electro optical data made available to the Serb SAM installation C2 , to HUMINT on the ground at Aviano and COMMINT, all tied together to make the difficult, possible.
You have to remember and many people do not was that the range for the F-117 SAM kill was just 9 nm from the battery.
That`s pretty damned close in terms of range, I would be disappointed as a SAM Regimental Co NOT to have gotten that shot when i had everything going for me that night.
If what you have said is true, can you tell me why the B-2`s which dropped ordnance on Belgrade just before those F-117s were not tracked and attacked or even detected?
Secondly, computational power had increased exponentially between each generation of stealth platform, from faceting to blending as had composites technology and RAM compounds, IR countermeasure applications etc etc. A comparison between the F-117 and F-22 is really Apples and Oranges.
Another point, the F-22 of 2017 is a very different aircraft than that of 2001 in ways you probably do not appreciate.
You guys can carry on thinking in one dimension and imagine VHF radar as your panacea , hold onto it if it makes you feel warm at night, Russian defence planners know better than the Russia supporting social media cohort / anti F-35 bandwagon horror show ill informed no hopers et al.
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Sorry Hanz, you dont understand what why or how the damage happened, so your opinion is uninformed and therefore irrelevant.
Lets put it another way, you have zero HE weapons qualifications, you have directly compared the physical structure of two different buildings when you dont understand that reinforced structures are designed and built to different standards of hardening, even the concrete used is different as well as the steel reinforcement., what layering was used , single or double walls etc.
You have Military standard and civilian standards. You have structures designed not to keep weapons out but to keep volatile chemicals inside its far more complex than you give it credit, so are weapons/ effects determinations
I guarantee you, there is nothing usable inside whats left of those buildings whatsoever which was the point of the attack.
You are also making assumptions about the types of warhead used, were they general HE warheads or shaped multi effects charges? You just dont know.
You are fixated on numbers, and because you have no knowledge of the problem you've made ill informed assumptions.
Please leave BDA to the experts. I will leave you with a better picture a side by side image taken via satellite, its pretty obvious what 78 missiles can do when focused on what was a large site. https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2018/04/Slide2.png
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@ Dominik
"But I reality it is a group of systems and measures". That is pretty much how I meant it to come across, sorry we got crossed wires.
LO is a valuable asset, I was in the Navy for 22 years and know its worth and if you look at where its being used, ie, in virtually every aspect of weapons design where military equipment would benefit from radar LO , its already been done.
I served on the very first major naval hulls to eliminate all right angles / corner reflectors, were built with reduced sig` in mind from conception, directly from lessons learned in the Falklands War.
Those lessons were shared with NATO.
Today we have every major surface combatant on the planet designed with reduced RCS as a design feature and every nation is doing so or has already got there, from China to Russia to the UK to the Euro Navies. If the naysayers took a moment to have a close look they would see it for themselves, in every hull in every picture posted on line.
Then they can take a look at Cruise missiles of all flavours, UAVs, hell even MBT designs.
The detractors have their own agenda which pretty much reduces their credibility to zero in scientific and technical terms.
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