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Comments by "Osmosis" (@osmosis321) on "BC man one of 1st Canadians compensated for injury due to COVID-19 vaccine" video.
Let me get this straight. Your friend had a stroke after their first shot and went on to get more shots? For some strange reason, I don't believe you.
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@jimbojones9118 LOL! "A lot of people I know are suffering from the same very rare condition."
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Yeah such a crime against humanity to trade a risk of dying an agonizing death for a significantly decreased risk of something better than dying.
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You mean the Charles Hoff who was disciplined for spreading misinformation and promoting IVM as a covid treatment? That Charles Hoff?
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@rachelyoung7261 That still doesn't come anywhere near proving anything.
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@rachelyoung7261 No I mean so what if someone died 3 weeks after getting jabbed. That doesn't even remotely demonstrate it was the jab that killed them.
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Uh huh. And what was the cause of death?
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yawn look up the stats regarding the odds of this particular adverse event, multiply by the number of vaccine doses given, and that's exactly how many times this will happen. You're not seeing anything special, this isn't news to anyone who knows what's what, and your surprise that it's being covered is unwarranted.
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You forgot to mention that they were having seizures before the shot too.
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@ReRe-kr1ht then you're a liar.
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Fun fact: your chance of getting a blood clot is higher if you're unvaccinated.
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@CoryAnn666 We all have natural immune systems darling, you're not special. Except in that 'denying an obvious reality' kind of way.
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@oknevals Except that's not a fact. And even if it was, it ignores the odds and ramifications of having a rare adverse event from the vaccine vs the routine effects of covid. I have to wonder, are you reading the same conspiracy script everyone else is? I thought there was a massive coverup going on, but here you are saying it's all well documented. If it's well documented, why do you seem convinced you know something that has somehow escaped the vast majority of doctors and scientists on the planet.
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@CoryAnn666 What does it matter? Are you so desperate to bash the vaccines, and your position so puerile, that you think the number of shots is somehow a valid point against them?
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@AngelinaSkye1695 You do know you can easily find info online about adverse events, right? The reason you're not hearing about it much is because it's not happening much.
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@CoryAnn666 covid killed your grandma and you're on here talking smack about the vaccine? Unbelievable. There is something seriously.wrong with you.
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@gaiseric9518 lol doctors treat you like a jerk for blaming vaccines for your injuries? That's because you absolutely are.
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Why would the manufacturer be liable? The medical establishment decides what's in the vaccine, unless they botched the recipe it's not their fault.
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@PassifloraCerulea Right, it's not covid that's dangerous, it's the vaccines. LOL
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@tehabnorm I like how you're all compassionate for this guy but you won't get vaccinated and help out everyone else.
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@tehabnorm Rain isn't contagious, is it.
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@fionnaheller1873 sorry you're wrong about the impact the spread of misinformation has, and also about the reliability of people's personal experiences. You never personally witnessed something? So what? The numbers speak for themselves and your personal opinion has no weight against that. And then you play the 'Canadians are supposed to be polite card' but politeness has no place when people are hurting other people. Civility isn't going to bring back the hundreds of thousand of people who died for no good reason, many of them precisely because of social media comments like the thread we're in now. You think I'm being a meanie? That's unfortunate but I have a much more important purpose to attend to than sparing your feelings. Stemming the flow of misinformation is a matter of life and death nowadays.
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@raraszek lol except that never happened.
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@hamwhacker I can totally understand why a slight chance of Bell's Palsy was of greater concern to you than a much higher chance of dying. Good call.
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@fionnaheller1873 lol actually no, I'm not going to source it myself, when someone tells you to cite your sources you need to do just that, not tell them it's out there if they look for it. And one doctor (who isn't an expert in vaccines, I might add) who's made some dubious statements about vaccines is not what I call a reliable source. What you need is enough high quality evidence to create a scientific consensus, what you've given me is one doctor out of tens of millions worldwide. I disagree that we need to balance the scientific consensus with personal anecdotes. You say it's an uphill battle to get recognized by doctors as being injured, well maybe they're not, and maybe failure to get recognized by doctors isn't a good reason to then try to sway public opinion. Hundreds of thousands of people died horrible deaths for no good reason - that's where it leads. Vaccines save lives and prevent human suffering and actually it's NOT acceptable to signal boost a dangerous message. You say the pro-vax side is aggressive and rude, and I say of course we are. Why wouldn't we be, the other side is literally killing people.
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@Gdowg444 That's just conspiracy nonsense. Grow up.
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@rachelyoung7261 So what?
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@fionnaheller1873 If you've got some sources for your claim that the vaccine protocol is being reassessed by health authorities please pass them along I'd love to see them. As for cutting responses to genuine victims, that is not my intention, but quite honestly I don't have much sympathy for people who spread fear about vaccines during a pandemic and stoke the flames of anti vaccine sentiment. Are there genuine victims? Of course. Should they regret their decision to vaccinate? No. Not when the reliable information was and is that the best thing for us as a group, and by extension as individuals, is to vaccinate. If you believe you've suffered a vaccine injury, the greatest likelihood is you're wrong about that. But more importantly, you should be talking to your doctor about it, not signal boosting a message that harms people on social media.
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@fionnaheller1873 The facts are established, no need to hold off judgement. If a vaccine injury is going to happen, it's going to happen within a few weeks, not years later. One can always find a study that tells them what they want to/already believe but if the quality evidence was there, don't you think doctors and scientists would be reassessing the mass vaccination programs? And actually my comment wasn't tangential. During the peak of the 4th wave, Alberta had to beg it's neighboring provinces to take some of their patients because they couldn't handle the load. That's a health care system on the brink of collapse, that's what COVID did. I'm not seeing that with vaccine injuries - I'm not seeing droves of intubated people and ICU's full to overflowing and surgeries being canceled etc. So even if you are legit vaccine injured (very few are) you still made the right choice because the alternative was an orders of magnitude higher chance of dying a horrible death.
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@rachelyoung7261 I don't care if you trust it but it would be nice if you didn't go around spreading unfounded fear about it.
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@fionnaheller1873 That's funny, I don't see ICUs full to overflowing and our medical system on the verge of collapse due to vaccine injured people, perhaps you can show me where that's happening.
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The cover up goes so deep they've managed to erase all the evidence and make it look like all this vaccine damage isn't happening.
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@truthhurts3709 you know the virus causes that, right? Same with bell's palsy. I'm curious how you know these are caused by the vaccine rather than the virus.
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@drutter but that IS what the data say. Not that you actually checked, of course.
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@95thRiflesOCI I can't answer that as I'm not a doctor. I gotta ask. Since you acknowledge that it's probably not the vax (you're correct, it's probably not) what on Earth are you doing posting this comment on a video about vaccine injuries? Something like 320,000 people died horrible deaths needlessly and comments like this are fuel in the fire.
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@fpsFAMOUS chelation is for heavy metal poisoning, nothing more.
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@fpsFAMOUS LOL there are no heavy metals in there. The ingredients list is readily available in case you'd like to, you know, actually check if something's true before you go around saying it is.
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@Catarax28 The hospitals were full of covid victims, not vaccine injuries. Weird how some people can't seem to grasp simple, obvious facts.
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Of course you think apartheid has something to do with vaccination. I mean, why wouldn't you.
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Stop lying.
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@askquestionsplz oh. Well. Surely getting finger cancer months after getting vaccinated is a clear indicator that vaccines cause finger cancer. Nevermind that the cancer rates remained steady this whole time.
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Sure bud, whatever helps you sleep at night.
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@brianteskey2425 Nah. Not sure why you think that, but you're wrong. Funny how people who come to the wrong conclusions and do the wrong things like to pat themselves on the back and pretend they're skeptical independent thinkers when they're just wrong.
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@chadlugz1510 I do, it's just that my research involves looking into what doctors and scientists say and what the statistics show, and yours apparently involves parroting what some deeply misguided (and often malevolent) people pulled out of their arses.
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@squishyblanket you do realize your chances of nerve damage from the vaccine are quite a bit lower than your chances of permanent organ damage, including death, from the virus, right? And that even with all the known side effects of the vaccine you're still way better off getting vaccinated. Right?
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@earbunnyisgloomy9613 Excuse? What are you even talking about?
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Yeah, that totally happened. Lol.
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@95thRiflesOCI your comment was worse than irrelevant, it's almost certainly not true. And in the exceedingly unlikely scenario it is true, it's even more exceedingly unlikely caused by the vaccine. But thanks for spreading unfounded fear about vaccines during a pandemic, your contribution to society is duly noted.
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@leond1270 If he had a stroke after the first jab his doctor would have issued him a medical exemption. So no, I don't believe you. And no, you don't have to care what I believe but perhaps a little basic decency would help you to understand that spreading fear about vaccines during a pandemic is not what good people do.
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@pmarie2003 If you're dead? What kind of crazy, upside down world are you living in where the vaccine is more likely to harm you than the virus?
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@leond1270 Also, the union did protect it's members - from preventable disease.
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@ReRe-kr1ht oh stop. You and I both know the vaccine didn't hurt you or any of your friends.
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@fionnaheller1873 Your tone policing is getting tiresome. I agree that civility matters, and yes on occasion I'm too hard on people but the vast majority of the time any rudeness I dish out is very well deserved. Having said that, I don't agree that my position "may be" valid based on "whichever expert in the field and whichever reports". It's not my opinion that hundreds of thousands of people suffered and died in the last 2.5 years due to vaccine refusal, or that irresponsible and often malicious social media comments are feeding it. It's not my opinion that our health care system came dangerously close to collapsing and that vaccine hesitancy is hurting more than just the hesitant. It's not "my view" that comments like the thread we're currently in are signal boosting a dangerous message that hurts people. And when something is objectively harming people I care less about being polite than I do about people being harmed. I appreciate your point of view but I believe we've both been heard and I'm ending this conversation. Take care, be safe, and I hope neither you nor anyone you care about has to pay the price for the kind of sentiment put forth by threads like this one.
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