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Comments by "Stephen Jenkins" (@stephenjenkins7971) on "There Was a Genocide in Korea and Nobody Cares." video.
@Radjhitoocool The video leaves out a lot of information. Like how NK got literal Chinese volunteers and Soviet equipment before getting thr green light to invade to begin with. This channel is pure tankie copium which calls anything even associated with the US a vassal but then acts like literal vassals are free nations. Also. There was peace between the 2 countries, and both were recognized as independent countries. It's no longer a civil war, it's a war of conquest. Edit: Also there was no genocide. Most of the deaths of the war was initiated by NK anyway. If there was a genocide, it was mostly initiated by the North.
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@Radjhitoocool It isn't an issue. It's an issue when tankies have hypocritical metrics about it. If the US aiding someone makes them a vassal, then the same applies to those aiding others. If not, then fine. But it still doesn't change that NK invaded another country for conquest when there was peace. And that other countries helped in that imperialism. Both Korean leaders were appointed by foreign powers, my guy. Why are you being hypocritical about this? And why aren't you talking about the far bigger genocide and war that was caused by the North?
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@YukonMonamee Is that supposed to be an indictment? You do the same thing; you just don't bother helping others while fighting for your interests. This is what gives the US any moral strength at all; stuff like the Marshall Plan or the US rebuilding of Japan. Anyone else would just turn them into colonies for exploitation. US did more, while still fighting for its interests. That's a good thing. Why do you act like the US not being a perfect saint is some kind of moral failing that makes it evil?
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@YukonMonamee Uh, the South Korean public are pretty pro-US generally. And considering South Korea is one of the wealthiest nations on Earth while surrounded by hostile states, its obvious why that is and how South Korea uses the US for its own benefit. Everything else you said is copium about how the US not throwing all of its resources for you at its own detriment somehow makes it less laudable. You are so contrarian that you'd dismiss the US managing to serve its own interest and help another people as nothing; as if that isn't a good thing for both or somehow malicious. Some Burgers claim their country to be saint-like. That's absurd on their part, but compared to much of its contemporaries it IS morally superior, even accounting the US' many sins. And I am referring to other big nations, not smaller ones that can't bully its neighbors but act moral when in reality they just don't have the means to be mean. South Korea did not have the means to be cruel, but is obviously willing to use other nations, as evidenced with South Korea using the US for its own benefit.
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@koikat3708 Nothing justifies a geno. Goos thing this can't be classified as one, not unless every single conflict ever is also a geno.
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@YukonMonamee The ones defending themselves and the ones defending their allies don't go to hell. If you do believe that though, there are other US leaders that are prolly going though. Not unless you think all people that fight for their allies' preservation are monsters too?
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@YukonMonamee If South Koea is just a military colony, then all defensive wars involving bigger states with smaller states were wars of colonies. In which case there can never be a big nation that don't have their leaders going to heIl. A hilarious concept that is pretty absurd; who isn't going to have a horrible afterlife with this metric, exactly? There is no such thing as a nation that "truly cares" about the struggles of other people. It can't. Specifically because the nation is focused on preserving themselves and their people, and spending resources purely out of goodwill achieves nothing but self destruction. South Korea used the US just as the US used South Korea. Same with all nations. Its only with long term associations that the people between nations feel comfortable enough to "care" about another nation and people. South Korea was lucky that it got the US, which sometimes tries to help elevate its allies. 99.99% of the time nations just kick each other down, don't lift each other up. US has a lot of blood on its hands, but by contrast to its contemporaries its an angel in how it handles its allies. There is a reason South Koreans see the US so positively, and its not because they're brainwashed. They just have to look to the North. I doubt you care, though. I get who you are now. A Korean ultranationalist that is more upset at non-East Asians butting in to the peninsula than East Asians brutalizing and oppressing your northern neighbor. Inb4 you claim that South Korea is also being oppressed, as if it isn't one of the wealthiest societies in human history.
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@user-cz1ss6iy1b "Just left alone to massacre South Koreans freely" you mean. How dare the Americans stop an imperialist conquest lmao
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@YukonMonamee 1) Not yt. 2) Its literal historical fact. "In April 1950, Stalin gave Kim permission to attack the government in the South under the condition that Mao would agree to send reinforcements if needed.[102] For Kim, this was the fulfilment of his goal to unite Korea after its division by foreign powers. Stalin made it clear that Soviet forces would not openly engage in combat, to avoid a direct war with the U.S.[102] Kim met with Mao in May 1950 and differing historical interpretations of the outcome of the meeting have been put forward. According to Barbara Barnouin and Yu Changgeng, Mao agreed to support Kim despite concerns of American intervention, as China desperately needed the economic and military aid promised by the Soviets.[103] Kathryn Weathersby cites Soviet documents which said Kim secured Mao's support."
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@Yibay Hey man, if you love fascist tyrannical states that starve their people for the pleasure of the .00000001% -you can't go wrong with North Korea.
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@kamarovcliffordsky3458 In what realm can you claim that the South Korean government is illegitimate any more than the North was? NK received far more support and aid from the Soviets and China to the point that much of their army was made up of many veterans from the CCP. SK in comparison received none of that support until AFTER the war began. By your own logic, NK has no right to exist and it was the Soviets and Chinese that engaged in hyper imperialism here.
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@agadez4015 North Korea invaded the South at the behest of its CCP and USSR masters, to begin with. North Korea did not exist prior to the end of WW2, and initiated the conflict. The US wasn't even in South Korea when they invaded, they left by that point and returned after getting UN support.
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@benjaminasmus3980 Imagine being such a tool that you dismiss an entire country's media. That's not pure ignorance or anything lmao
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@btwtrademe Uh, no. The death toll in Iraq/Afghanistan caused directly by the US itself is pretty insignificant. Most of the death toll in both conflicts were due to instability from the war itself and insurgents. Which is an interesting metric since most wars don't consider that whatsoever. There were no pits of people. The only time that occurred in either countries would be in the Soviet-Afghan War, where something like 10% of Afghanistan's population was destroyed. Unprecedented in modern history, that.
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@bronisthegoat8915 Did you even bother checking the sources for those numbers? The listings with the biggest number are counted by listing how many there SHOULD be by looking at past trends of population growth, and then extrapolating from there. The medium ones count include de@d from those that anti-US forces have k*lled and lays the blame onto the US (something not done in any other conflict, mind you). That's how propaganda works, it spread misinformation and repeats it ad naseum, and peeps like u don't check the sources and buy the lie. If we treat the US like we treat any other nation on Earth, then the de@th toll was a few tens of thousands after 10 years or so.
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@user-rk5cu5tg2g Oh? So we can bomb people to smithereens because of karma now? I guess Iraq, Syria, North Korea and many more had it coming now.
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North Korea has no right to hate the US considering the horror and imperialism they inflicted on the South with the aid of their Marxist masters. The entire war began via a brutal invasion, and it ended with them getting smashed for it.
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@YukonMonamee Then what's the issue? You claimed you didn't believe me, now you admit that you knew that the North initiated a war of conquest with the backing of the USSR and China?
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@YukonMonamee 1) You clearly do. Otherwise you wouldn't be using the "US just wants to use South Korea" as some kind of proof of ill intent or some sorts. Its quite literally what everyone does, except the US doesn't bother smashing South Korea if it doesn't do what it wants. 2) When have I ever lauded the US for mercy or generousness or whatever? 3) You haven't shattered any myth or anything. Its what most people are aware of; the US does what it does for its interests. The only thing that makes it better is that it helps those allies oft times. Not all the time, but enough that it makes a big difference. US can and should serve its own interest while also helping. 4) Would you prefer if the US forcefully removed every South Korena leader it didn't like? You are simultaneously condemning the US for respecting South Korean sovereignty, and condemning it for tolerating South Korean sovereignty. What South Korea does is done by South Koreans. As it should be. 5) South Korea is indeed only prosperous because of South Koreans. But you can't ignore how the US helped protect the country to reach that point (it would have been swallowed by North Korea) and forced Japan to trade with South Korea, as well as invested in South Korea. No nation can do it alone. Ultimately, you seem confused. What do you want? The US to control South Korea? Or the US to keep its hands off? Because you seem to want both when its convenient for you.
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@orlandoalfredpreston You can't provide a source on YT. As an aside, I already pointed out how obviously braindead it is to claim that any geno happened. If any geno happened, it was inflicted onto the South Koreans by the North Koreans and their masters in China. Not that you guys care.
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