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Comments by "" (@A86) on "Are Children of Divorce More Likely Atheists?" video.
Greek gods are every bit as tyrannical and precocious as Biblegod.
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I would say a lot of "agnostic atheists" are really gnositc atheists in denial. If you compare "god" to fairies then it's pretty obvious you consider "god" extremely unlikely to exist. A person doesn't have to be 100% sure of something to be "gnostic" since few people are 100% certain of anything. I do agree that the majority of atheists are more likely to consider the possibility of being wrong than theists, on average.
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Depends on what "god" you're talking about. Many god-concepts have little or no moral value attached to them. I think you're referring to the traditional Abrahamic God.
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I consider myself mostly an Ignostic and an Apatheist. I'd lean towards agnostic atheism towards some definitions of "God" and lean towards agnostic pantheism towards other definitions of "God". That's the best way to classify myself in words or labels. Sorry if that sounds insufficient or vague. :/ Maybe it sounds vague because I personally don't really care if any "God" exists or not since I think it wouldn't affect our life or existence either way.
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Fair enough. I'm personally an Ignostic and an Apatheist. I'd also consider myself a gnostic atheist towards most versions of the Abrahamic God. I lean towards agnostic pantheism under some definitions of "God". Most of the time I don't care if people are theists, deists, atheists or whatever unless they're trying to affect my life with it.
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I'm not a theist or an atheist, so I have no dog in this fight, but I do notice that many of the "angry New Atheist" types that haunt many-a-YouTube video are basically just the other side of the coin of religious zealots (short of calling for physical violence or govt censorship, at least most of the time). A lot of them also present themselves as some kind of paragon of scientific reason and skepticism. I think David Leiter's essay "The Pathology of Organized Skepticism" describes most of them
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I've openly shared my wariness of the idea of "atheist communities" before. When you start building a community that insists upon the members being like-minded, sharing a common goal and "spreading the message" to others that's the foundations for a religion or ideology. IMHO many atheists attracted to that kind of thing are in search of a place-holder to fill the new void leaving a religion has left in their life (most tend to be ex-believers).
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Agree 100%.
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Actually it's 93% of scientists at NAS who are atheists or agnostics. And there are only a few hundred NAS scientists. Only about 1/3 of scientists in general are atheists. About 1/3 are atheists, almost 40% are theists or deists of some sort and the rest identify as "agnostic" and refused to answer as "theist" or "atheist".
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IMO if a "God" does exist it's probably something most akin to the God of Futurama. Does interact to a degree but in a way so subtle most people would never even notice, not really in a dramatic Old Testament kind of way. Agree totally that if religion mattered to god he/she/it'd lay it out for us plainly.
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*looks at the comment section* *sees theists, deists and atheists on the Internet actually getting along fairly peacefully, congenially sharing ideas and agreeing to disagree while respecting each other's differing views* 0_____o Have I entered the Twilight Zone?
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That's not true. Belief in gods is a continuum. Just like sexuality or politics. In my case I don't really care enough to make a decision. I have no aversion to terms like "atheist" or "theist". Both would simply be inadequate to describe me since I have serious disagreements with both and wouldn't comfortably fit in either category. Keep talking to me about "God" or "existence" and you'll see what I mean very soon. ;)
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I would say this definitely describes many members of the "Rational Response Squad" (ironic name since most of their time is spent ridiculing and making ad hominem attacks against people who disagree, which is basically the polar opposite of Rationalism). I've met many atheist YouTubers who WERE more genuine rationalists or skeptics simply not convinced of the veracity of any god-concept. A lot of them tend not to be members of organized "atheist communities", though.
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While true I'm not one of those people as I have no stigma towards atheism (or theism). A lot of people who consider themselves "Christians" or (insert religion) are often agnostic theists if you ask them about their certainty that a God exists. Religious people or theists are just less likely to identify as "agnostic" because most theists tend to be ignorant of what "agnostic" means and think it's a halfway point between theism and atheism. Atheists are just more likely to self-ID as agnostic.
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Agree 100%.
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"Atheist made the first man go to the moon" How in the world would you know most of the scientists and engineers involved in the Moonshot were atheists? There is no data to know such a thing.
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You could make the same argument about the Bible (in the New Testament God seems to have grown up some since the Old Testament) and God in the Bible does have motivations. Not necessarily good ones but they're there. Similar to Greek gods (who often had piss-poor motivations as well). I'd also disagree that there are no morals in the Bible. There are good morals in there along with terrible ones. Same as Greek theology.
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Personally I'm almost 100% convinced that fairies don't exist on this planet. I guess I could be considered a gnostic a-fairy-ist. XD Whether or not such things exist on other planets I have no idea. The Universe is an awful big place and we know relatively little about the environments of other planets in our Solar System (let alone outside our Solar System).
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No one even knows what a "sign of a god" would be.
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WTF kind of study is this?
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Preach on. :)
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