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Comments by "" (@A86) on "Harry Reid's Light Skinned/Negro Comments: Guilty?" video.
Exactly. I found the "Barack the Magic Negro" thing from Rush Limbaugh far more insulting than Harry Reid's statement. Rush Limbaugh was trying to make Obama's racial identity into something negative and he even had someone impersonate Al Sharpton's manner of speech in a manner reminiscent of 1920s and 30s blackface comedy. Reid was at least trying to complement Obama. Ironically Republicans making a stink about this are the first ones to defend the "Barack the Magic Negro" song.
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Get over yourself. Most of the Dixiecrats turned Republican after 1964. Trent Lott, Jesse Helms, Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, J. Strom Thurmond, etc. all anti-Civil Rights and Republican. Joe "You Lie" Wilson is a Neo-Confederate sympathizer.
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"why you blacks support dems is beyond me" Maybe because a lot of Republicans think of us as "you blacks" like you just said. D'oh! Sounds like you're referring to an animal or something. Or the fact that Nixon and Reagan ran on anti-black platforms (Southern Strategy, Black Welfare Queen mythology, etc.), dismantled programs which helped the black community, the fact that the Dixiecrats became Republican after 1964, etc.
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--___-- He said this in 2008.
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@lebaneseseameer - I agree, lol. What Reid was saying, in a politically incorrect way, was that many Americans still wouldn't vote for a black person unless they sound like a Rhodes Scholar. Even with Obama being super-educated there were a significant number of Americans who admitted they STILL couldn't bring themselves to vote for a black person. If Barack Obama talked like George W. Bush or Sarah Palin no way in hell would he have even become a Delegate. Let alone President.
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Like I said earlier I'm black and even though Harry Reid had poor taste in terminology what he said has a lot of truth to it. Black comedians point this out all the time about Obama. Had he been darker and sounded less like a Rhodes Scholar his chances of getting elected would have probably been lower. Some Americans STILL admitted they couldn't bring themselves to vote for a black man despite his relatively clean background and the fact that he's a professor.
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I have to agree. There is a definite difference in the lexicon and cadence in the way some white, black, Latino and Asian Americans speak. In my hometown and Mississippi working class blacks and working class whites, while having a similar accent, had some different jargon, colloquialisms, malapropisms, tautologies and copulas. It's cultural, not racial. It doesn't make anyone better or inferior either, just cultural differences.
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Like I said Reid had some pretty poor choice in words but what he said was true. By "Negro dialect" he was talking about the stereotypical way black people are pictured as speaking. What they call "Ebonics" or whatever (which I think is as silly as "Negro dialect"). In other words he was referring to AAVE. If Obama spoke like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson, especially Jesse, I think his chances of being elected would have been lower.
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"Pure Kenyan" = not mixed with other ethnicities Most Americans are a mix of several ethniticies where the same isn't true of many people outside of the US. Yes, we all know about evolution (or at least many of us do). I'm not referring to "racial purity" I'm talking about ethnic groups within nations-states.
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I think MrDeevo was referring to what you just said. It's not "racial" but it is cultural, regional and socioeconomic. For instance (and I know many/most Mexican-Americans don't say this) how many white and black Americans say "Orale"? How many white Americans say "Let me rap with you for a sec"? (I know that's out of style now) How many black Americans say "meemaw"?
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Yeah, I think Reid should step down because he was one of the main Democrats who helped water down the healthcare bill and he compromised on the Public Option. I also think he should step down because he and Pelosi went back on their 2006 pledge to impeach Bush (or at least limit him), end the War and get rid of the Patriot Act.
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Personally I don't think Michael Steele should resign either. I think he should apologize like Reid but he hasn't even done that. I don't automatically freak out about the term "Negro" because it was the legal and legitimate term for black people in the West prior to the late 70s/early 80s. My parents (who are black) sometimes still use the term because that's what they were called until they were in their 20s. It's the context, not the term itself.
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It's "racist" in the sense of using non-PC terminology but it's not racist in spirit. I don't think he was trying to denigrate black people or Obama. He was actually attempting to compliment him.
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Lol, it's a euphemism to me now. That's how I'll always remember him.
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Eh....that's somewhat true. There are many ethnic groups in sub-Saharan Africa that are naturally lighter skinned. But in the context of African-Americans it's safe to assume most light-skinned black people have some European ancestry due to the fact that most African-Americans are of West African descent. Most West Africans are pretty dark. Reid was referring to the fact that if Obama was darker-skinned he may have had a harder time winning white votes.
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That's Limbaugh's explanation but if you heard what he said leading up to and after the song it was a jab at Obama himself and a jab at black Obama voters. I don't hear anything in the lyrics really poking fun at the media either. It's funny you're defending Limbaugh but implying Reid is a Klansman.
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30% black? His dad was pure Kenyan. That's about as black as you can get, lol. He's 50% Kenyan and 50% British, Irish, Scottish and German.
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It's not really racist to point out the racist mentality of many Americans. Whether we like it or not a significant number of Americans automatically think and assume things like that when they see a black person. A lot of Americans do say crap like "Oh he speaks so well!" when they hear an educated-sounding black person. As if that's an oddity.
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When did Rush refer to the LA Times and what article are you referring to? "obama has not accomplishments but wins whites over based on sympathy" Klansman detected. People voted for Obama because they liked his platform, because he's been in political positions of power since the 90s, they liked him as a Senator and they liked his background in Constitutional Law. More than can be said for Palin.
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"Negro dialect" is basically a politically incorrect way of saying AAVE. I'm starting to become more suspicious about you after you defended Limbaugh's "Barack the Magic Negro" song. My grandpa would say "What's yo angle, nigga?" but I'm not my grandpa.
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How have I made excuses? I've said several times his choice of wording was terrible and if anything he should apologize for that. I'm black and I was raised around southern black folks. I definitely know about "ebonics" and all that, lol. I'm fully aware many black people don't speak "ebonics"; which I don't really view as any different from how working-class southern and midwestern white people speak. My point was that many Americans PERCEIVE black people as speaking that way.
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