Comments by "" (@A86) on "World's Greatest Mugshot | Rapist Gets What He Deserves" video.

  1. "breaking or almost breaking the kid's ribs" Do you have any evidence the kid's ribs were broken or "almost broken"? You have his medical record? Saying "Stop!" doesn't mean your bones are broken. For all we know the kid could have had a low pain threshold (who said Ana's kicks are really hard? She's a small woman). "unwanted way" By law that's sexual assault (unwanted sexual physical contact, especially one that causes pain like Ana alleged the slap did) and entitles you to self-defense.
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  2. "seriously injure them" Who said the kid was seriously injured? That's something YOU added. Unless you saw the kid's doctor bill or you did a follow-up on him. "Cause of fear" A COMPLETE AND TOTAL STRANGER making unwanted sexual physical contact with you, then cackling about it, and coming around to do it AGAIN while you're walking ALONE near sunset is rational cause for fear/concern. Especially if you're a small woman (like Ana) being harassed by a male old enough to be stronger than you.
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  3. "I would not curb stomp you" The boy in Ana's story was nowhere near curb-stomped. If he was he'd be dead or permanently maimed. She kicked him several times in the chest, which while painful, likely did not cause any serious damage. Ana being a woman probably didn't kick as hard as a grown man would. Even if the boy did get injured he couldn't really sue Ana since he assaulted her. If you assault someone and they put you in the hospital it's self-defense. As long as they don't kill you.
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  4. No rebuttal, I see. Still waiting for the laws that would consider hitting a person back until they say "Stop" excessive force. I'll save you the trouble: There are none.
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  5. If you chase a person who is on a bike the person on the bike will always be able to outrun you. So it is a vehicle. A vehicle does not need to have an engine (by your logic a manned glider plane wouldn't count as a vehicle). "you're required to take flight: No, no you don't. Not in California: socallawblog (.) blogspot (.) com/2013/07/is-california-stand-your-ground-state (.) html In Cali people who are assailed have no duty to retreat. Nice try.
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  6. The reason Ana used so much force is because: 1) The guy was brazen enough to come back around for a second assault. She was already scared given she was a female walking alone near nighttime and a male was making unwanted sexual physical contact on her. 2) Men, and teenage boys, are usually stronger than adult women. A woman would have to use more force to stop even a teenage boy than a man would need to stop a woman. Men and boys can take more physical punishment than women and girls.
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  7. Grabbing ass or balls is different from slapping ass HOW, exactly? Because the person in this case was a female? How the fuck is slapping someone on the ass more okay than grabbing it or squeezing someone's crotch? "does that make it right" It's not morally wrong to defend yourself against someone assaulting you. Especially if you use non-lethal force. So what the fuck would you suggest? Women just stand there and take it when creepers slap them on the ass?
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  8. Slapping someone on the ass (and Ana said it HURT as well) is by definition sexual assault. Regardless of gender. Your downplaying of a total stranger slapping Ana on the ass, chuckling creepily about it, and coming back to do it again is making me wonder if you're the kind of guy not above doing that kind of stuff. The point: You don't go around putting your hands on strangers. Horseplaying with friends is totally different from slapping strangers. If a guy did that to you'd knock his ass out
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  9. Really. Most of the guys bitching about Ana kicking the teenager's ass are hypocrites anyway. If another man grabbed or smacked the ass of one of their female relatives, or if some gay man grabbed or smacked THEIR ASS, I guarantee at least 80% of them would have knocked the guy's teeth out. Or said "He had it coming" if another guy knocked his teeth out.
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  10. She kicked him off his bike first (kicking someone off a bike is not subduing them unless they broke a limb or slammed their head very hard when they fell off and went unconscious) and then proceeded to kick him. He said "Stop" a couple of times and she stopped and walked away. That's not excessive. If she continued to kick after he said "Stop" and caused him great damage or death THAT would be excessive.
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  11. And what the fuck would you say to the judge? "Your honor, I slapped this woman and she kicked me back."? The judge would laugh in your face and throw that shit out pronto. "that is considered excessive" No it isn't. Unless you've maimed or killed someone, hitting them is not considered excessive in any state. You have no evidence the kid was permanently maimed or died as a result of what Ana did.
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  12. Random strangers slapping you on the ass (especially hard enough to cause pain) and coming back around to do it again is legally sexual assault (harassment at a minimum). And doing this at sunset while laughing about it. It's beyond fucking creepy. I think any person that thinks that kind of behavior is okay and condescendingly tells victims to "get over it, luv" is suspect. Sounds like the kind of person who wouldn't be above raping a drunk person.
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  13. "hit them 100 times at full force long-past the point of lawful acceptability" Except that is not AT ALL what happened in Ana's case. You have no evidence she hit him anywhere near 100 times at full force (though a woman would need to use more force to subdue a man than a man would a woman, Ana is not some 200 lb dude). She kicked him several times until he gave up and said "Stop". That's completely lawful. She won a fight. Winning a fight is not excessive force.
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  14. And so I ask you, again, what specific law would allow the boy to sue Ana or have her arrested? Under what law is hitting a person who assaulted you back until they give up considered "excessive force"? Specific law, please. Until then your dumbass non-argument remains raped and nullified. As we can all see, since I've backed up my argument with copious legal backing.
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  15. She just compared herself in terms of understanding how the girl would be scared. She didn't say her experience is anywhere near as harrowing as the girl in the story's experience. Ana and Cenk openly admitted what happened in this crime story is much worse than that creepy teenage boy.
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  16. But don't take my word for it. Let's look up California Law (Ana lives in Cali): criminal (.) findlaw (.) com/criminal-charges/assault-and-battery-defenses (.) html By law you are entitled to use self-defense if a person makes harmful, threatening or unwanted physical contact with you. Especially if they come back around or make it difficult to escape (a person riding a bike and coming back around to hit a pedestrian again would qualify). No law in the nation would arrest Ana.
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  17. I did say several times that you can't kill them or permanently maim them. That would be permanently maiming. But Ana didn't go anywhere near that far.
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  18. Kinda. It wouldn't be as funny, IMO. That's because it would be overkill in that case because most men are stronger than most women. Most men don't need to use the same amount of force the average woman would need to make a man back down. In Ana's case I doubt it was overkill as the boy was likely not seriously hurt. That's why there's a bit of a double standard there. But a man does have the right to use physical force to defend himself against a woman who is assaulting him.
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  19. Proportionate self-defense would be fighting back until the person who attacked you no longer wants to continue fighting.or dealing with you. If someone hits you once you don't have to just hit back once and wait to see if they'll return another lick. No man would do that if another man hit him and women don't either if a guy sexually assaults them.
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  20. Actually, she was. Any unwanted sexual physical contact is technically sexual assault. Especially if it makes the person fearful, uncomfortable or is physically painful (which Ana said it was painful since he hit HARD). You don't go around groping random strangers. That's a huge no-no for both genders. Anyone who does that shit is a fucking creeper.
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  21. So, you can't make shit up and insert it into what happened here. No one argued you could hit someone 100 times and fucking break them in half and kill them and shit, and that's not what Ana did either. If you have to exaggerate then your argument is full of shit. If your argument was valid you wouldn't need to expound or exaggerate. "no idea what the fuck you're talking about" Except I do. California has no "Duty to Retreat" law, So YOU have no fucking clue what you're talking about.
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  22. Dodge away, sir.
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  23. I'm sure someone's said this before, but if someone slaps or hits you and causes pain and reasonable fear, that's assault. Especially if they try to do it AGAIN like that teenager did. Given he did this to a complete stranger who was a female walking near sunset alone, it's easily understandable why Ana and most women would be afraid. If a random strange woman drove by and slapped you on the ass really hard and it hurt that's also sexual assault.
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  24. Translation: I have no good rebuttal to what you said and I don't want to admit that I'd applaud my female relatives kicking the shit out of you if you slapped their asses. But if I admit it I'll be recognized as a hypocrite for condemning Ana for the same. We both know that's what going on in the peabrain of yours. The refusal to answer and the inexplicable aggression (calling me an "idiot' when I hadn't even insulted you) is typical of evasive liars. Psych 101. Typical DARVO.
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  25. "that applies to everybody, across the board" No it doesn't. Whoever throws the first punch is the person guilty of assault UNLESS the person who got hit first did something to bring it upon themselves (like stalking or harassing the person who hit them, threatening the person who hit them or shoving them). Those are about the only cases where you can get away with throwing the first hit. A bicycle is a vehicle as it is an apparatus you use to go faster than normal human running speed.
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  26. Let me spell it out further for you just in case. Let's see what the law says: legal-dictionary (.) thefreedictionary (.) com/Self-Defense As Ana did not beat the kid into a coma, break his ribcage (at least there's no evidence that she did) or kill him, what law would judge what she did "Excessive Force"? What would he be able to sue Ana over? That a woman he hit hit him back until he verbally cried uncle? lol
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  27. Likewise, if you were walking down the street and some gay guy who was a stranger reached out and gave your ass a nice, firm grab or cupped his hands around your testicles and squeezed I have a feeling you'd deck him in the mouth or nose. And you'd be perfectly within your legal rights to do so. Look up "Sexual Assault" in any state law and you'll see you have the right to use physical force to defend yourself in such a situation.
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  28. If someone assaults you then BY LAW you are entitled to use non-violent force against them (and lethal force if they are threatening your life). What Ana dis was perfectly legal. What would the kid be able to sue her over? That he assaulted her, came back around to assault her again and she fought back? WTF was Ana supposed to do? Just sit there and take it? "just because she's a woman" Bullshit. I'd say the same thing if some creepy-ass woman did that to a guy by himself.
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  29. The boy would have no legal defense. "I slapped a girl and came back to do it again, then she hit me back and it hurt!" is not a legal defense. That's whining like a pussy and not taking personal accountability. Keep your hands off people and you'll be fine in life. Because you find a woman attractive doesn't give anyone the legal right to slap them on the behind. That's invasive and it's assault. Keep your hands to yourself unless the girl lets you slap her booty. You don't slap strangers.
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  30. Actually it would be indulge idiots, not "indulge with". Idiot. Anyways, I notice you can't give an honest answer, which is a dead giveaway to me you realize that I have a point. Usually when people can't answer straightforward questions with a straight answer it's because they have an agenda, don't have a decent rebuttal, or agree with the implications of the answer but don't want to admit it out loud.
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  31. "You're supposed to flee/run away if you're not being restrained or otherwise physically impeded from your path of escape" The same could be said about George Zimmerman. Curiously no one says that about him. Anyways, that's only true if you're the person who initiated an incident. Ana didn't initiate the incident. She was minding her own business and a teen slapped her ass, then came around to do it again. If a person on a vehicle comes around to hit again they're PREVENTING you escaping.
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  32. "it fucking does change the definition" No it doesn't. If you call yourself a Jeep the definition of "Jeep" still remains the same. We don't live in a fact-free/objectivity-free world. You can't just change a word on your own. If I decided I want to use the word "screwdriver" to mean "obsession" that doesn't change the definition of the word. I'm just using it incorrectly.
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  33. Uh, slapping someone is classified as "assault" in every state of the Union. In every state you are legally allowed to hit someone back if they hit you. "punch them in the face 100 times" That's not what happened in this case. Stop exaggerating shit. She said she kicked him several times in the chest and he said "Stop". Unless you have proof she permanently injured or killed him it's not excessive force. Males (including teenage boys) are usually stronger than women. Women have to hit more.
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  34. I notice white nationalists and right-wingers are always claiming that TYT never does reports about black criminals and never condemns black criminals (despite the fact there are dozens of TYT videos of crime reports where there is a black offender). They accuse Ana in particular of defending them. Here we have an example of TYT gleefully condemning (rightfully so) a black would-be rapist and making fun of him getting injured. Not a peep from the "Anti-racist is anti-white!" idiots. Typical.
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  35. "necessary force" Most women would need to kick a man or late teenage male several times in order to subdue him. When the kid said, "Stop!" Ana stopped. That's subduing him. She didn't kill him. "Stop" doesn't mean "I'm dead!" This is a teenager we're talking about. Not a 5 yea old boy. He was likely stronger than Ana. "you've waived your right to claim self-defense" According to what law? Being on the ground does not mean you are out or incapable of defending yourself.
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  36. "I mean real law...good luck" Good luck? I already quoted the fucking law for you, genius: criminal (.) findlaw (.) com/criminal-charges/assault-a­nd-battery-defenses (.) html I'll give you the benefit of the doubt you didn't see it because I posted it to someone else. Causing pain is not "excessive". Now, what law says hitting a person several times who assaulted you is "excessive force"? What law specifies that causing pain but no permanent injury or death is "excessive"? Hm? Good luck.
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  37. A curb stomp is a very specific and fatal thing. That's not semantics, that's you playing with words to suit your goals. Calling being kicked in the ribs but not seriously injured a "curb stomping" is like calling falling off a bike and hitting a funny bone hard "murder". "You can't just put someone in a hospital" You can if it's self-defense and by law a person (especially a stranger) slapping your ass is sexual assaulted. It's unwanted physical contact that causes harm or fear.
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  38. I"m not talking about SYG. "Duty To Retreat" only applies to people who initiate a conflict, which Ana did not. Being she was a woman walking alone near sunset and a teenage male (who can be assumed to be as physically strong or stronger than her) has slapped her and comes around to slap her again she has reasonable fear of possible harm and escalation. She also has the right to self-defense since he has already physically assaulted her.
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  39. Coming around to do it AGAIN makes it not only sexual assault but sexual harassment (continuing to bother a person). If a random guy passes by you and grabs your asschecks and gives them a good pinch you, by law, have the right to deck him. You just can't kill him or permanently maim him (unless he fights back and starts using deadly or severe force).
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  40. As a parting gift: "now you're just blatantly lying" Horseshit: socallawblog (.) blogspot (.) com/2013/07/is-california-stand-your-ground-state (.) html California has no "Duty to Retreat" law. That applies in English common law. "Under the historical British rules...a person was only justified in using deadly force against an attacker if such force was truly a last resort...he had a "duty to retreat"....A person who is assailed in California has no duty to retreat."
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  41. Uh, yes it does. It's always used to refer to stomping someone's teeth onto a pavement curb. Just because you use it differently doesn't change the definition. Just like kids calling beating someone in online gaming "rape" doesn't change the actual definition. "You can NOT" Yes you can. By law if you're assaulted you're entitled to non-lethal self-defense. As long as you don't kill or permanently maim them. Slapping a stranger on the ass is sexual assault. Coming to do it again is harassment.
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  42. That is sexual harassment. It's assault if it hurts like Ana says it did. If someone hits you and causes pain and it was uncalled for and unwarranted, that's assault. He also tried to come back around and do it AGAIN. That's definitely assault and at the very least harassment. Given Ana was a woman alone while the sun was going down, that's a pretty scary situation since it could escalate and the male could possibly overpower her if he wants to take it a step further.
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  43. There is also no law that says hitting someone until they say "Stop/No more" is excessive force when the person has hit you first. I've cited 3 legal sources that all state you have the right to use non-lethal force against a person who has or is assaulting you. Ana did just that and nothing more. She didn't kill anyone or cause any permanent injury.
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  44. It wouldn't be totally equal because men are usually stronger than women and pose more of a physical threat. Most late teenage boys are stronger than (or at least as strong) than adult women. If a random woman slaps a guy on the ass hard and comes around to do it again he is legally justified in hitting her in self-defense. Kicking her like 20 times would probably be overkill unless she's some Big Bertha-in-prison-built type woman. Most women have to hit a man with more force to subdue to them
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  45. Very true. What I hate is how some MRAs and anti-feminists, rather than talking about how male sexual assault is not taken as seriously in our society, go out of their way to downplay sexual assault on women and tell victims to get over it or blame them for the event. It's one thing to get Men's rights enforced. It's another thing to go out of your way to thumb your nose at Women's rights or insult female sexual assault victims because you're mad about anti-male double standards.
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  46. No rebuttal, I see. Still waiting for the laws that would consider hitting a person back until they say "Stop" excessive force. I'll save you the trouble: There are none.
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