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Comments by "" (@A86) on "Hannity Claims Obama is 'Christian Cleansing' the Military" video.
Neither Christians nor atheists are lying to kids since no one can prove Christianity or atheism is true or false. They're unfalsifiable philosophical/metaphysical views. "Lying" is when you intentionally tell things you KNOW are untrue. People are only lying when they deny the truth of scientific discoveries.
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Length, width and height ARE space. It's controversial if time is a dimension since it doesn't technically objectively exist. I agree with the rest of what you said that. That's indeed a possibility.
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A dragon isn't really that abstract. My god? I'm not arguing for or against a "god"'s existence. I'm not even a religious man. "Freedom of religion includes not being influenced by your superiors" Agree 100%. Never disagreed with that, just debating philosophy with another commenter. We weren't debating whether or not what the chaplains in the military do is right (it isn't).
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Protip: Anything you disagree with isn't a "lie". A lie is when you intentionally tell people things you know are wrong. By your logic people who teach their kids conservative or liberal politics are "lying" to them. "the whole omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient bullcrap" That's personal opinion. There is no empirical evidence for or against such a concept. Because you disagree with it doesn't make it a "lie". Just like atheism isn't a "lie" either, it's an unprovable view. Just like theism.
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To be honest, it's not even clear that the man called "Jesus" even preached or believed only he could perform the miracles he did. At least if this alleged quote from him is to be believed: "Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father." --John 14:12
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"We came up with the Scientific method BECAUSE of religious bullshit" Religion and the Scientific method address different things. The scientific method addresses physical reality. Religion falls under philosophy, as does atheism. The veracity of theism and atheism are not scientifically verifiable.
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So, atheism is still a philosophical view, just like theism, since atheism cannot be verified by science or the scientific method and there is no categorized and peer-reviewed consensus on what physical "evidence" for atheism would look like. Just like the lack of belief in intelligent life on other planets is a philosophical view (since we currently have no way to scientifically confirm or deny there is intelligent life out there).
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Technically "time" doesn't really exist in an objective sense. It's largely a human concept. What we call "space" didn't exist before the Big Bang either. Just an unknown void.
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When you put it that way I agree. While it is possible he could have done things considered miraculous (there are people today who still do things like that) it's doubtful they were done the way the Bible describes. Or that the Bible authors even meant for it to be all taken literally.
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It's better to say that because most theists do believe there is "evidence" for at least one "god" but their evidence wouldn't convince most theists. Likewise most atheists "evidence" that "gods" don't exist wouldn't convince most theists and deists. "magical bunny rabbits" Rabbits are far more specific things than "God". "God" is a vacuous concept with as many definitions as there are human beings with opinions. Not unlike other concepts like "Love", "Style", "Goodness", etc.
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"If I don't believe in Santa, it is not my philosophical stance. It is a default position" Implicit atheism is a default position of humans. Not explicit atheism. "ALL evidence points to there being no Santa, just like gods of all stripes" The other guy, UncontestedTruth, was correct when he corrected you about Santa. When it comes to gods of all stripes there is no scientific evidence against the God of Spinoza. Or the God of Einstein. Or the God of Paul Tillich. None for them either.
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"and thus Christianity is not true" Being based on earlier stories makes something untrue? That doesn't really follow. "ZERO evidence of Jesus existence" Untrue: en (.) wikipedia (.) org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus Most historians agree he probably did exist or is based on a man (or several men) who did exist around that time. Whether or not he performed any of the miracles attributed to him is a different matter.
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I've explicitly stated many times theism cannot be verified by science either. "but since reality supports no gods" According to whom? Lack of convincing scientific evidence is not the same as proof something doesn't exist. Those are 2 different things. "without evidence" The problem is theists and atheists cannot agree or come up with a universal standard of what "evidence for God" would look like. It's better to just say "I personally haven't seen any convincing evidence."
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Yes there. Dragons don't match up with what we know about ecology. Let alone one being in a garage. A "god" is a far more vague concept than a dragon and don't necessarily contradict anything about known modern science. We haven't found intelligent life on other planets either. Doesn't mean they don't exist anywhere.
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Uh, I have read it. I read "The Demon-Haunted World" when I was 11 years old. A dragon is a pretty specific thing. Especially one that is specifically "invisible" and "fire-spitting". There aren't many definitions for what a dragon is. "God" is a much more vague concept with probably upwards of hundreds of definitions and variations. It suffers from the same limitation as Russell's Teapot in that a teapot is far more specific than "God". A teapot is an object, "God" isn't necessarily an object.
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Technically something had to just "always exist" in some form. For theists and deists (not all but in most religions) it would be "God". In atheism whatever was the impetus for the Big Bang had to have always existed, even if it's some sort of cycle or quantum function/potentiality (like in Stephen Hawking's theory on what happened before the Big Bang). Infinite regression will always be an issue.
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