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Comments by "sharper68" (@sharper68) on "White Nationalist Opens Up to The Young Turks" video.
Bernie Madoff Race is an empty and meaningless distinction between us. If we did "abolish" race it would not be long before clowns like you would be dividing us by eye or hair color though. This cherry picking garbage proves nothing,. That a fringe group exists I do not hear anything from is not a compelling argument I am in any kind of chamber. The only reason you know about them is because their ideas are broadcast as the "liberal" standard in your own fact optional echo chamber. Those clowns may or may not represent me and you have to still have to misrepresent them to even make your point underlines the innate weakness of your spin. It is clear who the idiot is ..
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The cheap and easy trick of demonizing the immigrant is an age old tool that appeals to the small and ignorant. Always was ..
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Bernie Madoff Nonsense, white people are not blamed, the promotion of the status quo and an objection to change is. That cons love things to remain static is their chief objection to people getting equal treatment under law. You can try to spin it that you losing something or that white people are somehow persecuted but that is empty and silly whining of no merit. When clowns like you misuse political terms that have an actual meaning you undermine any non existent unearned cred you might start with. The second you start randomly calling anyone "Marxist" it makes you like a silly partisan who does not care if he is spitting bullshit. The only way to maintain the fiction of your views is to misrepresent your opposition.
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Bernie Madoff "White people are blamed every single day by the Media, for Racism. " Nonsense and if you think that charge sits on all white people then you have been standing in a bizarre echo chamber. White people are not blamed for racism, racists are. That they happen to be white speaks an entitlement they feel they have but says nothing about me. You know why? I am not a racist. I am not represented by any of those "whites" stories. I have nothing in common with those ass hats and do not feel implicated when they are called out for the ignorant losers they are. Perhaps you get triggered by these stories because these shit stains are actually like you. I have not seen whites demonized and if I did I might be concerned as I am one. The fact is this whiny social justice bullshit you share safe space shit that makes you look you have the softest pinkest skin on earth. The real narrative is all racists are half wits who use fear and unearned credibility in the form of "pride of race" to pump themselves up while not doing anything to justify that "pride" personally. You are the ideologue who is lost in a false and painfully simple narrative that backs up your distasteful world view. Trying to paint me as what you are is empty and reeks of projection.
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Bernie Madoff There is no "anti white" echo chamber that has any power. The fact you feel threatened speaks to your mind set not a real issue that affects your life. You are innately biased and calling me what you clearly are is weak and what we in the real world call projection. It is all you have.
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Bernie Madoff So .. that does not reflect on me only them. That you imagine it implicates you speaks to your own issues and says nothing about the writer. Like I said point to any article you want that has "white" in it and those issues do not denigrate me or anyone "by color" they are driven by what the people in question stand for and that they happen to be white and have your particular myopic spin is why you object to the characterization. There is no attack on "whites" there is an attack on bigots and throwbacks. Deal with it.
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Bernie Madoff Yes so? Like I said they do not reflect on you unless you are a bigot or belong to one of the regressive groups mentioned. These stories simply are not about me and do not reflect on all white people just the ones that are being pointed at ... get that through your head. Because they say white in the title does not mean you are hard done by or are discriminated against .. your spin is stupid. There is nothing there that denigrates me as a white person, if you think there is then it is be because you fall into one of the camps mentioned they oppose. They oppose these backward assholes who happen to be white because of what they stand for not their skin color. Pointing out how these groups define themselves is not racist.
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Bernie Madoff You have some real whiny safe space shit there. You get triggered pretty easily it seems. You are reaching pretty hard to make your poor little race be hard done by. Fuck your spin is myopic and pathetic and as whine about the powerless protesting the strong, it marks your concern as petty and empty. BLM killed no one any more than the religious right blew up abortion cinques. BLM is a valid movement whose spin is not as well thought out as it should be. Making them into a bunch of terrorists is a right wing trope and is invalid nonsense as you ignore actual terrorists in your ranks.
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Bernie Madoff Again talking about history is not racist. That you want to paper over the past and let people forget how brutal things were may be your thing but it has no value. Here is a hint, in a slavery movie the villain will always be Slaver ... that makes sense to the sane. Your lists are base useless and do not make the point you imagine they are. Ps: I am not sure if you saw those movies but some of the hero's are white in there.
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fbda555 You can't imagine you are clever with your stupid talking points and painfully transparent spin. You are like a cliché machine and your arguments are a bundling of every weak racist justification that does not pass a basic sniff test. Those with lilly white skin will become "minorities", as more people move here and the birth rates remains as they are. We both agree on that, what we disagree on is that that is a bad thing or even matters. It is natural and inevitable. This process does not amount to not genocide and only morons who do not understand what the terms means pretend it does. Races commingling to become more similar is not genocide by any definition. Your rape stats are base useless in this context and do not mean what you pretend they do. Your stats on violent crime are also spin meant to cover up the root of real problems and are meant to stoke baseless fear in the ignorant. Your simplistic us against them nonsense may play to a specific inbred isolated crowd but to the informed reject it. I am not being "demonized"; ignorant sacks of shit like you are. That I reject your silly fringe spin does not make me a shill, there is no paid constituency that spends time rebuking your ignorant garbage and if there was I would be rolling in cash.
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fbda5555 You do not represent "whites" and you really need to stop pretending you do. You and those like you are a tiny fraction of the population and talking like change ever needed your nod is silly. It does not matter how you feel about becoming a minority as no one had to ask you permission. I personally do not care about skin color and look at the quality of individuals characters not their skin tone. But then I live in a diverse place where I know people of all ethnic backgrounds who live in work in harmony. Your simple minded fear and useless appeal to skin tone based pride hides and empty nothing under it. You have personal no reason to be prideful of your skin colour. You did not earn it, the achievements you lay at your "races" feet were achieved with no help from you. You are attaching yourself to a group you perceive as successful while offering nothing yourself, it is a weak attempt to pump yourself up based on who your parents were. Just like all your spin it is paper thin useless bluster. What you say is universally bullshit and even if based on fact your kind will consistently misinterpret what data actually means. NO ONE but overt racists share your spin and that is why you clowns are forced denigrate actual scientists who disagree with your conclusions. Get this through your head your arguments fail the second you step outside your dishonest bubble and face reality. Your bullshit is empty and your spin unpopular, it is easy to see why because it is really bad. I have no idea how anyone can put that fact aside to buy into weak poorly thought out nonsense.
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Bernie Madoff No "whites" in general are not evil or racist, racists are. All racists are a throwback but those that have power and use it to marginalize others based on a trait as arbitrary as skin tone are if not evil then at least are bad self centred people.
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Fahad Hossain Consumers can but rarely do. The only thing stopping specific industries from creating monopolies now are laws that do so. This is not about the will of the people but the innate drive of business to eliminate competition if they have the opportunity. This eventually leads to a bunch of really big fish monopolizing the entire pond. They can gobble up little fish as soon as they start being a threat effectively eliminating realistic competition. That you imagine it all just works out because a new viable business will always crop up to complete with an exploitive one is not attached to reality. Even if one does the more powerful one can just cut prices sour the market and then buy their opponents up cheap.
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+Zach S There is no value to dividing ourselves by skin color. This simple useless appeal to tribalism is a throw back version of identity politics that finds a home to the most insular and ignorant among us. It takes a very small and simple person to define themselves this way and it is shallow and empty.
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Zach S If what you are saying is you have the definitive definition of "race" then you are deluded. "Race" is a term that science no longer uses because the meaning of the word is wide open to mean whatever the speakers want it to mean. Your tacit assertion you have valid conclusions is betrayed by the fact your definition is always defined by superficial traits and will be different depending on who you ask to define them.
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+Zach S That is not what actual scientists are saying. Any old and invalidated data you would point to all has the same root issue and does not represent the modern common consensus for good reasons. Race is a non scientific generic term that has no standard meaning or common method of classification. People who actually research biodiversity would not use such loaded descriptor that does not mean anything specific. We can talk about different characteristics of specific regional subgroups but the generalizations you are talking about have been shown to have no practical value besides to pump up small and insular people. Science is not on your side sparky and biologically you are nearly identical genetically to all other humans. The characteristics you describe as race are not predictive for things like temperament and IQ is a metric that is culturally biased invalidating the studies where it was used to paint specific races as inferior.
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Zach S We are not remotely genetically identical to chimps, we are merely similar. On the other hand you are basically identical to all other humans outside some very small changes. We can not even tell someone's race unless they are from very specific regions where they have a special marker by their dna and even then it only means an ancestor was from that region. Your assertions you are fundamentally different than say a black guy is not borne out by data. The consensus has seen your silly empty nonsense. They have rejected it because for some the reasons I have outlined and all of it has been overturned. The mountain you speak about is dust and has been dismissed by everyone who does not have an agenda to push your "race" promoting bullshit. Ya so, even as "Asians" do well it does not mean the tests are not culturally biased. I did not say they were white supremacist tests I said there was a bias. they were made for a specific target audience and have cultural overtones that give specific groups advantages on the test as a side effect. That IQ test are culturally biased is common accepted in the disciplines that uses them. It is an assertion that is not even contested and that you do not know that is the only reason you can spit your silly claims with such confidence. Woops indeed ...
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Elpeo Puru that is bullshiit as idiotic bigoted elements of the right continue to work to attempt to reapply segregation. the right owns the bigots and fighting for equal treatment under the law for all takes nothing away from your ilk but the abity to discriminate against minority groups. before we yanked away your bigoted supported by law we were innately divided and pretending our current divisions are the product of the left is base nonsense
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Elpeo Puru I do say that because there is no large contingency of the SJW class period. The authoritarians of the left do not represent us all and the fact that the right points to them as the problem is just self serving diversions for the fact it shares many of the same faults. It is an over exposed minority segment you pretend represent all liberals but it is simply not true. I am using arguments, that you classify anything that disagrees with you as "SJW arguments" does not mean they are. It is you who legitimatize actual destructive bigots by attempting to paint a tiny group as the reason bigots who have always been among us exist.
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fbda5555 Whites becoming a minority is enviable because of the small subsection of humanity they represent and the limited haritibality of that single trait. They are not going anywhere any how. Their parents genes will be passed to their offspring no matter what color the other parent is. "White" genes are not destroyed when mixed with people of other skin tones. The idea they are is empty nonsense of no value to anyone. It does not matter what color you want your country to be, you do not get to pick that in a modern world and that is not going to change. For the ones that it does it means you at eager to bow at the feet of an authoritarian who will make that dream happen. We all know what that leader looks like and it is not hard to paint your ignorant backward spin a path that should draw concern. Your "Jews" big plan garbage makes you look and sound like a loon and it is impossibly easy slap down your bizarre fringe assumptions. Ignorant insular tribal clowns like you are facing extinction not me. Just talking in public now draws you sneers from the vast majority. Your discredited and backward nonsense plays in a certain crowd but out in the wider world it marks you as sack of shit racist. Nature does have a way of getting rid of the stupid, that is why you clowns are in decline.
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fbda5555 I do not know how you are dumb enough to buy the fringe nonsense you spew. You are the one who is spitting the garbage of clowns who are considered gross by the majority. Quit pretending you represent the main stream as you are a fringe dwelling throwback, own that. I do not give a fuck about how we did things in the past or that other bigots have power now or had it in the past. You represent a failed way of looking at the world and that you want to hang onto that says nothing good about you. I am unconcerned about "white genocide in south Africa" as you clowns regularly use the term and have no fucking clue what it actually means. Give me more detail and it is safe to bet I would oppose anyone committing murder in he name of racial purity but that is not what is happening here and the policies of some on the fringe of SA do not define everyone of color. I oppose all fundamentalists having political power including Muslims. Again this has nothing to do with race or the color of my skin or those I oppose. I dislike them not because they are different than me but because they are regressive and do not share any ideals with me. There are already laws against murder half wit and I do not fear being attack by a minority than I do white person. The spin that because they have a different skin tone than you they are dangerous is idiocy personified. Your stupid railing on the jews marks you as below contempt. You clowns have always did this bullshit and now is no different. Keep it up as it makes you look like the sack of shit you are and clearly identifies what garbage your views represent. Your guesses about me are as weak and fact free as the rest of your spin. I live in a city and not some po-dunk backwater like you do. Places where you are exposed to other cultures do not breed the kind of overt ignorant racism in any kind numbers that you represent. That treat people as individuals and not stereotypes may be "gay" in your backward world but to the sane it is the only way to go. We are all the same and if we made the same kind of money integrated communities are safe affluent nice places to live. When you pile poor people in any one area it becomes a place people want to move away from. Black people tend be disproportionality poor and that is why there are large comminutes of them congregated, We are the same in the same way you are same as a billionaire, identical just poorer. This is not a complex idea. Merry Christmas.
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fbda5555 It is not "good", it is normal, expected and I frankly do not care what the predominant skin tone around me is. The fact is give enough time the distinctions in color that were built around regional isolation that is no longer a reality will continue to shrink naturally. You decry this as the world losing something when I simply do not agree. The genes of both parents carry forward so no one is shut out, no one is destroyed. The phenomena you discuss with regard to eastern Europeans being poor and not being violent is not well thought out. The fact is in their society the poor parts of the country are more violent, there is more crime and that you do not think there is speaks to your ignorance willful or otherwise. Same goes for the "millions of whiles" who live below the poverty line and if you look at who gets arrested and convicted the poor consistently drive those numbers. What is repulsive is your ignorant ass pretending you are superior and when fact you demonstrate how woefully inadequate, undedicated and self serving your stupid spin is. I do not give flying fuck what an empty sack of shit like you thinks and will always oppose half wits like you trying to pump yourself up based on the actions of people you could not hope to compare yourself to. That you share a skin tone with some successful people does not say anything about you. The questions you ask all have answers but you are not going to find them in the white nationalist drivel you clearly consume. I have answered some of them and that you ignore that to make the same assertions again like I said nothing speaks to what how dishonest you are in this conversation. White propaganda? Whatever safe space boy, you are pathetic and your skin is so thin it is probably not white at all but transparent. You have not made a single argument as you accuse me of the same thing. You spit discredited nonsense that is easy to dismiss with a simple google search. You are not informed, you do not represent "white people" and no one sane wants you to.
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Reinhard W please do not cite studies as backing your idiot assertions up. you have to literally ignore what the vast majority actually say to maintain your fiction of diversity being a larger problem than it is a boon. social science now rejects the concept of race as you would define it as a valuable tool for measuring relative success or failure in a society. you are spitting discredited racist nonsense if zero value except that it props up your personal backward insular tribal view point. the data you cute does not back a conclusion that we should have less diversity just that there is an element that resists it. that crew were never trusting of people they identified as different anyway. now the just have something to whine about
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luvinvdubs simple mindedness + a need to puff ones self up with the success of others + overt ignorance = your spin. I would prefer "conflict" over your version of oppressive self agranduzation.
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Bernie Madoff On the Canadian stats your spin is stupid and no one who is honest shares it. The issues with crime are universally attached to income of the community you live in. This is not only shown in Canada but also in the us and that is why your crime nonsense spin is dismissed everywher3e but in racist circles. The data share is spun to suite you but if you look at the source never agrees with your struggle to back bigoted conclusions.
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Batta Beru Nicely said!
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His ilk existed and had power to write the laws before we tore it away from them. Pretending the left made this cancer when it always existed within the right is ridiculolsy is myopic
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Jordan Wendt Total nonsense, things that are racist are racist and all white people have opinions. They are not all called racist.
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E vilo Nicely said.
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Fahad Hossain They sell or you sour the market with anti competition tactics till someone breaks. Either way you end up with a monopoly and if not now you can try again in 5 years with a new ceo and you can expect that to change. It all ends with a spin toward ever more powerful and potentially exploitive monopolies. None of this is in the consumer interest. Anarcho is not untested, we see it anywhere chaos rules. We have seen what the rich ruling the poor with complete autonomy looks like. Advocating for a form corporate feudalism has little merit to me.
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+Elpeo Puru Your characterization is silly as the right in the form of the very guy in the video overtly argues for division. The right is the champion for dividing us and conservative white people have historically root of the divide as they fight for the status quo which pushed special treatment for them. You have to get the idea through your head that fighting for equality for all against people like you is not division. I support no one being racist against anyone and I typify the left not your silly straw man spin. Your trope about the left is innately dishonest because it is has always been the right who owns the racists.
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Elpeo Puru Duke is more of a main stream figure after trumps promotion and acceptance of the bigotry contingents full throated support. David has always been popular with a specific element of society but got no main stream press and did not have a voice until this election cycle when Trumps rhetoric gave him one. These people were just as involved in the background as they are now and have universally supported the GOP the entire time. By not denouncing their support and often openly courting it with his spin he gave them a new voice and blaming the left for Trumps empowerment of them is poorly thought out. With regard to Lena's tweet, she asked the question how her dad felt about the extinction of strait white men, she did not call for it. The spin that she did is dishonest. The anti male let alone anti white male democratic block does represent any significant constituency on the left and most certainly is not remotely the main stream. Seems like you have been taken in by misleading spin and if you watch it in context you can not fail to see it was both humours and is not threatening to anyone. To lay the growth of the alt right on the actions of the small and basically powerless group on fringe left is silly when it is pretty clear what is actually empowering them. The elements of the left you refer to exist but have no power and that the right wing media and blogs overplay the nonsense they spit does not mean you get to blame the entire left for what their propaganda spawns. I am a what I consider a main stream liberal and will universally call out all bigotry because I believe in equality under the law. That means I will oppose those who want to divide us by race or by gender from the right or the left as I believe in the idea and will not excuse one side because we agree on a few other things. I represent the vast majority of the left who just wants everyone to have a fair shake and be treated equally. The spin that the rise in popularity of bigots is a justified backlash against the power of the left is undermined by the fact their complaints are consistently empty. People like you typically try blame all liberals for raving of a handful on the left who live on the fringe and have no power. The real group to blame is bigots and that you feel sympathy for them speaks to the quality of your information not the validity of their concerns.
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Elpeo Puru The Media you get your information from has been painting the democrats as crazy left wingers and nothing could be further from the truth. Your Lena Dumham spin is silly and an outright fabrication and misrepresentation of the element you quoted. There are crazies to attack on the left just like the right but you are quoting groups who calls the corporatist Obama a Marxist. This is nonsense that suits the us against them narrative they sell to purposely divide us against ourselves against real injustice. The hard core objectionable SJW's are a fringe group and that you imagine they represent any large constituency of the left speaks to nothing but the particular bubble you live in. A look at the issues you cite outside a focused partisan media do not back up your spin. I oppose the same people you do but if you imagine that censor ship and witch-hunts are the providence of the left means you are not paying attention of a what a giant segment of the right wants.
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Elpeo Puru The republicans have racists religious bigots who want to replace our constitution with the bible and talk at their conversion all the fucking time. Pretending they are some kind of laudable group is base stupid. So for the last time no one called for the extinction of white males, NO ONE. So your arguments are empty nonsense as no one is doing what you are accusing the dems of doing even as the GOP harbours innately self declared bigots who want to establish a "white America" Again pointing at the fringe and pretending it represents the main stream may play well in the right wing blogs but is not attached to reality. I am not saying you should ignore bigotry by anyone. I am saying pretending that bigotry is owned by the left is empty spin. That anyone on the fringe hates anyone else does not mean you get to paint the entire group with that failure. The right sits in the same camp as assholes like David duke and any number of religious pyro's are as anti freedom as the worst Islamist. I do not give anyone who would marginalize another a pass but I simply do not see the left owning as many of those assholes as the right always has.
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