Comments by "Leonid Shnaider" (@leon19736) on "Democracy Now!"
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In 1947, the UN partitioned Palestine into two states based on population - one Jewish, one Arab. If the Arabs had accepted the partition, there would have been no wars, no refugees and the Palestinians would be celebrating their 75th anniversary as an independent state encompassing the entire West Bank, Gaza and a third of pre-1967 Israel instead of the "nakba". The Arabs rejected the partition and launched a war with the stated goal of destroying Israel and annihilating its entire Jewish population and repeating the same thing in 1967.
After WW2, there were tens of millions of refugees in Europe - Germans, Poles and others. When India was partitioned in 1947, millions fled their homes. - both Muslims and Hindus. There were about 800,000 Jews who were either expelled of forced to leave Arab countries, their homes and land confiscated by Arab governments. Today there no European refugees, no refugees from India, no Jewish refugees. So why, after 75 years are the Palestinians still refugees? Because it is what the Arab governments wanted - to use them as political pawns.
No Israeli government will under any circumstances commit demographic suicide by permitting a "right of return". Does anyone seriously believe the same people who are murdering Israelis like the Dee sisters and their mother and firing rockets into Israel to intentionally kill Israeli civilians want to live peacefully with the Jews? The Palestinians need to be settled and given citizenship in the countries the live in. If a two state solution between the Israelis and West Bank Palestinians comes to fruition, then the refugees could return to the West Bank, but not to Israel.
In international law, it states that if an enemy country attacks you. Then you have the right to take the countries land. And since the Arabs attacked Israel in 1948, then the "Land grab" was totally legal
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@Kalumbatsch 2 million Arabs in Israel are citizens of Israel. Palestinians in Jordan got Jordanian citizenship. Gaza strip de facto independent state and Palestinians there have their own citizenship.
Gaza is a prison with universities, hospitals, malls, movie theaters, markets, libraries, festivals, thousands of mosques, 10 min distances from beaches, international borders with Egypt, unlimited supply of food and medicine. Indeed,the worst prison in the world with Egyptian guards on the border with Egypt .
Palestinians on the west Bank had citizenship of Jordan before 1967. After that, they refused on many occasions to independent Palestinian state.
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Before the 7th of October, Gaza had 18 universities, 38 hospitals, beautiful beaches, hotels, restaurants, zoo, amusement parks, and beach walking areas, which are beautiful, yahts, malls, parks, international border with Egypt.
Gaza looked better than the majority of the world. Palestinians brought it on themself on the 7th of October.
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@dangerousdays2052 I am an Israeli citizen, a combat soldier in reserves, and I fought for two months in Chan Yunis. The IDF and the soldiers within Israel's armed forces have put enormous effort into preventing unnecessary civilian casualties. Coming into Han Yunes we were met with neighbourhoods devoid of civilians. All the cars were gone, fridges in homes had been emptied of perishables and valuables taken with the residents.
During our two months there, in every instance where unarmed Palestinians were encountered, they were given the opportunity to surrender. Oftentimes this led to valuable intelligence being gathered, but the primary motivation for this was that we were not in Gaza to kill Gazans. Unlike Hamas, we were there to fight a war to protect our friends and families, not to randomly kill innocent civilians.
Unsubstantiated claims to the contrary have failed to stand up to any test of impartiality, and so the narrative has shifted from "genocide" to also include the term "domicide" or "purposeful killing of ones home". Indeed, in the absence of the purposefully orchestrated civilian casualties needed to run a propaganda campaign against Israel and its allies, Hamas must find some other way to garner western support. By coating their extremist ideology in a veneer of humanitarianism Hamas and their supporters attempt to hide the reality that the "victims" are enemies of western ideology and democracy.
During our mission we cleared hundreds of Gazan homes with over half of them belonging to Hamas supporters. In 100% of the houses where we found evidence of support for Hamas, we also found terror infrastructure including tunnels, weapon slicks, and rocket silos used to attack Israeli civilians. Any home that had indications for ideological support, also had material support of Hamas. Those homes were destroyed as part of the destruction of Hamas's terror infrastructure. Homes that were left standing would often be used by Hamas for future offensives against our forces, and as such there was a need to remove such houses. This was not done with the intention to ruin someone's life, but rather to protect the lives of Israeli soldiers who were only there due to the attacks committed by the government in Gaza, Hamas, on Oct. 7th.
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