Comments by "agon noga" (@agonnoga6100) on "To raise a fallen people: How 19th century Indians saw their world and shaped ours" video.

@Praveen Swamy and Rahul Sagar It was not Britain but a masala company called East India Company from London with a mercenary army consisting primarily of natives of South Asia who defeated these south Asian kings and created what we call India named after their company as prior to arrival of East India Company there was never any country called India. What the Greeks called India was the region today we call Pakistan. We never called ourselves Indians just like the natives of Americas never called themselves Indians or red Indians. You are looking at this issue through western lenses.
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@orkkojit so calling Indians as fallen people is "modernity" for you?? Where is your head stuck which never sees the light of the day??
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@-Guru If 19th century "pre occupation" of India makes us a "Fallen People," then how can that be considered as a contribution by the occupying civilization who became civilized through our tea, spices, cotton, opium and maths?
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@justinjoseph129 we are a civilization but not a nation. Today's India was created by the Turkic Mughals and expanded by British masala merchants called East India Company. Only little more than 50% of today's India was British India. Rest were independent kingdoms allied with the British. Today's India only came into existence after merger of British India with 565 princely states.
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@zzzzz653 Are you aware India is a Greek name derived from the name of Indus river which is itself a Greek name of Sindhu river?? Mauryan empire didn't represent India but was one out of several south Asian kingdoms. This is like saying entire subcontinent of India was Maharashtra as bulk of today's India was occupied by the Marathas prior to occupation by East India Company. The Greeks knew only the region around Sindhu river as they didn't venture beyond. What we know as the Indian civilization used to stretch from Afghanistan to Vietnam and Indonesia. You are vomiting crap that has been taught to all of us. Real history is very different as there was never any country called India prior to arrival of East India Company. Only 50% of today's India was British India and rest were independent kingdoms who supported both East India Company and the British. In fact, these kings were so loyal to the British that they didn't want the British to leave the subcontinent. Without the support of these kings, East India Company and the British wouldn't last a day in India. All these things are completely missing in our history books.
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Prior to world war 2, the world was largely ruled by kings and queens. It is only after world war two, with the dismantling of European colonies, democratic nation states became the norm. Even as late as 1960s, blacks were not allowed to vote in USA.
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Title of this book is very wrong. Just because large parts of India were under foreign occupation, we don't become a "Fallen People" who need to be "Raised". He should have selected a better title. Indian civilization is very old and extremely advanced. We taught the world how to count. The numerical system used by the world is Indian passed on to Europeans by the Arabs who themselves had a very advanced civilization. Without knowledge of Indian numerical system, world would still be living in medieval times.
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@orkkojit freedom fighters are conservatives and reactionaries according to you?? No wonder people like you call Bhagat Singh a terrorist in our history books.
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@utkarsh2746 did you read my comment carefully?? Nowhere did I mention India as a nation but as a civilization. Yes we had a common civilization several centuries old, but, we were never a nation. The Germanic people like the Anglo-Saxons, Dutch, Danes and Germans have a common civilization just like the Slavic people but they are not one nation. India is also a merging pot of various civilizations due to several foreign occupation of which the British, French and Portuguese were the last.
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@justinjoseph129 western civilization includes France, Germany UK, Denmark etc. You think they are all one and the same?? Similarly, Turkic civilization includes Turkey, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan etc You think they are all one nation??
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@zzzzz653 There's a saying, little knowledge is dangerous. You are best proof of this adage. where's the proof that Mauryan empire stretched from Afghanistan to Tamil Nadu?? If that has been the case you would find some evidence of Mauryan occupation in Tamil Nadu and Afghanistan. And even if for argument sake we do accept that the Mauryans managed to occupy kingdoms from Afghanistan to Tamil Nadu it was no different from Maratha occupation of India from Attock to Cuttack. It was an occupation no different from East India Company occupation or Mughal occupation of the subcontinent. What you have quoted about Megasthenes literally means India is a square shaped country, bound by Greece aka Ariana, Taurus mountain in Turkey, Caucas mountain in Georgia . Do you see any resemblance to this with even British India?? 30 stadia means 5 kms wide. Where do you find Ganges with 5 kms width anywhere in the country let alone at the source at Gaumukh where even today there are no motorable roads and people have to travel by foot or on horses?? Gangaridai was a Bengali kingdom different from Mauryan Kingdom. If Ganges empties in the eastern boundary of Gangaridai then most probably today's Jharkhand and Bihar were also a part of Gangaridai kingdom if we go by this description. Ganges, doesn't runs from North to South but in central India from west to east. There's another Ganges river which is today known as Mekong which flows from north to south. Original name of Mekong is Maa Gange in Sanskrit Maa Gonga in Bengali which the Chinese called Mei gonghe which became Mekong. I'll end this comment by advising you to practice what you preach. Please read and more importantly understand before you post anything in your comment.
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