Comments by "OscarTang" (@oscartang4587u3) on "Comparing the ideologies of Hitler, Mussolini and Mosley" video.

Statin and Lenin also banned all Union but still being call Socialist. Why there is double standard here? Also, the definition of Socialism is social ownership of mean of production. The socialise entity can be race, class or even gender. National Socialism is not Marxism but both are socialism. Hitler Socialism is race socialism which socialised by race instead of class like Marxist Class socialism. The socialised enemy of class socialism is the capitalist, while the socialised enemy of race socialism is Jews. As communism and class socialism are the product of Karl Marx(a Jews), so he also hated them as Class socialism hate capitalist.
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[the state intervened very little in the economy] There are plenty of socialist policies implemented by the Nazis and advocated within Nazism. 1.Hitler wanted to end class inequality too, he claimed that is one of the "obligations on our shoulders" stated in Mein Kampf. 2."Workers had their food, rend, clothing, and recreational activities (plus others) subsidized by the State."(Aly, "Hitler's Beneficiaries," see Chapter 2.) 3."The employment and wage of workers were also regulated by the DAF." (The Vampire Economy p.109) 4."Profit, as Point 14 of the Nazi ‘Twenty-Five Points’, declared in 1920, was to be shared out among the community." 5."As Götz Aly’s book “Hitler’s Beneficiaries” makes clear, most of the taxes were levied against the rich, the corporations, and foreigners like the Jews. They weren’t levied against the poor, who had their food, rend, clothing, and recreational activities (plus others) subsidised by the State."(Aly, “Hitler’s Beneficiaries,” see Chapter 2.) [ mainly Nazi production was carried out in concentration camps (not to be confused with extermination camps)] At its height at the end of the war, concentration camp labor made up 3 percent of the labor force in Germany, remaining a quantitatively marginal element of the economy of Nazi Germany. Buggeln, Marc (2008). "Were Concentration Camp Prisoners Slaves?: The Possibilities and Limits of Comparative History and Global Historical Perspectives"
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1. National socialism did appropriate means of production to the workers. "Workers had their food, rend, clothing, and recreational activities (plus others) subsidized by the State." (Aly, "Hitler's Beneficiaries," see Chapter 2.) "The employment and wage of workers were also regulated by the DAF." "Profit, as Point 14 of the Nazi ‘Twenty-Five Points’, declared in 1920, was to be shared out among the community." 2. Most Communist State ever existed also paired with some sort of racism, nationalism and a sense of supremacy. 3. That is the most horrifying part, people can recognize Fascism from the bigotry of they practice, but not from their ideological origin.
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@ms.antithesis How would claiming Nazi Germany is socialism be ridiculous, if you need to exclude almost every Communist State and Liberal Socialist regime ever existed in order the refuted Nazi Germany from practising Socialism? The governmentisation/Nationalisation of Labour Unions was also advocated by Lenin: “Today we can no longer confine ourselves to proclaiming the dictatorship of the proletariat. The trade unions have to be governmentalised; they have to be fused with state bodies. The work of building up large-scale industry has to be entrusted entirely to them. But all that is not enough. “(V. I. Lenin Report at the Second All-Russia Trade Union Congress January 20, 1919)
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The existence of Jews and Gypsy muddy up your narrative
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That State Capitalism system also ran in Soviet Union before 1922 and after 1980, Vietnam after 1988, PRC before 1956 and after 1980 (before 1989) and Cube after 2000. All those Communist state allowed the existence of private firms to run within their state regulated markets. Does that practice in their corresponding era refuted them from being classified as Socialist State and practising Socialism? How about the contemporary Liberal Socialist which tolerated free market? Does it not count as Socialism any more? Regarding Syndicalism, the one Nazi using was the National Syndicalism, which the Syndical was the organ of the state and work for the interest of the whole state. DAF in Nazi Germany did have the power to control fixed employee, fixed wage and force redistribution of surplus profit to the workers. DAF did meet the definition of controlling the industry for the worker.
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Fun fact: there is democratic (heavily ragged and not particular liberal) election in North Korea and USSR.
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Therefore, there are other terms like Check and balance of power, freedom of expression and rule of law and human right to describe “European democracy”. Those concepts are the foundation of European civilisation, but non of them are within the etymology of “democracy”.
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"…so if the ideology wasn’t antisemitic originally, it somehow attracted so many antisemites that the leaders became convinced of the merits of that view w/in a handful of years. " How about the fascist dictator in Asia, Afica and South Amarica?
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@rolandayers6726 I am fully aware of that, and dictator in history and even now often use the very old definition to deceive people or put into their ideology (like Marxism which often emphasised democracy within its ideology but clearly also did not respecting individual human rights). That why when we are in political/historical discussion related to authoritarian or dictatorships regime or ideology, we better refer Liberal Democracy as “Liberal Democracy” not just “Democracy”.
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For those non-self proclaimed Fascist. That common enemy can be just Communism, thus making Fascist regime no need to be racist at its roots. Notable examples would be the KMD government of PRC and Park regime of South Korea. Fascist regime can also emerge from Communism, Stalinism was also widely accused as Red fascist by Communists like Otto Rühle, Bruno Rizzi and Kurt Schumacher. Thus your late stage capitalism narrative was also not very correct too.
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@hrhkingedwardviii If nation and race were interchangeable, and Polish and Ukrainians are a slavic race divided into nation states on the basis of citizenship where was the Slavic Nation? Shouldn't there only be the nation of Slavic Nation instead of Poland? That doesn't seem very match the perspective of 1920-1930.
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@hrhkingedwardviii I believe not, if Nation and race literally meant the same thing in the past , then you cannot explain the existence Polish, Ukrainian and Finnish before the collapse of Russian Empire. Those race also had no nation before their independence, it would also contradicted to the Fourteen Points of Woodrow Wilson.
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@noblest_sir What do you mean? Yugoslavia SFR endorsed socialist patriotism. How did massive companies ran unchecked, their employment and wage was regulated by DAF. Those slave labourers were people excluded from the Aryan Society, just like the USSR would use dissidents and POWs as slave labors. Besides, mild socialism? Which liberal socialist regime was able to fixed unemployment and fixed wages. Nazi Socialist policies was stronger than that of any liberal socialist regime. Again most Communist State ever existed also paired with some sort of racism, nationalism and a sense of supremacy.
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@noblest_sir Gulag was first used by Trosky during Lenin era. ——————————— The labor programs of Nazi Germany did able to make its economic system ascend from capitalist mode of production under Marxist theory. Under the capitalist mode of production: 1.Both the inputs and outputs of production are mainly privately owned, priced goods and services purchased in the market. Production is carried out for exchange and circulation in the market, aiming to obtain a net profit income from it. Inputs and outputs of production are State owned (German businessman to American businessman, from Reimann, "The Vampire Economy,”) 2.The owners of the means of production (capitalists) constitute the dominant class (bourgeoisie) who derive its income from the exploitation of the surplus value. No free Market in Nazi Germany (The Role of Private Property in the Nazi Economy: The Case of Industry) Surplus value was controlled and regulated by the state. 3.Surplus value is a term within the Marxian theory which reveals the workers' unpaid work. “Hitler’s Beneficiaries” makes clear, most of the taxes were levied against the rich, the corporations, and foreigners like the Jews. They weren’t levied against the poor, who had their food, rend, clothing, and recreational activities (plus others) subsidized by the State. ( Aly, “Hitler’s Beneficiaries,” see Chapter 2.) 4. A defining feature of capitalism is the dependency on wage-labor for a large segment of the population; specifically, the working class, that is a segment of the proletariat, which does not own means of production (type of capital) and are compelled to sell to the owners of the means of production their labour power in order to produce and thus have an income to provide for themselves and their families the necessities of life. There was no wage-labor, because work were guaranteed, and the wages or salaries in Nazi Germany were fixed by DAF instead of market-determined. ( Reimann, “The Vampire Economy,” p109.). TIK did use the classic definition of Democracy which Karl Marx also used in his Communist Confession of Faith. "Democracy would be wholly valueless to the proletariat if it were not immediately used as a means for putting through measures directed against private property and ensuring the livelihood of the proletariat." ("Communist Confession of Faith")
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@kapitanpufferfish5164 Capitalist like Jeff Bezos? Where do you learn your labor history. It is the writers union want to banned the AI not the movie producing company. It is the workers who hate automation, as it would make them lose their jobs. Capitalist love automation, lesser cost lesser complain, more profit.
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@kapitanpufferfish5164 What is the meaning of ideologically, they ideology that Communist think Capitalist would have? Capitalism is just a a straw man created by Karl Marx, everything outside of Marxist can be determined as Capitalism or colluded with capitalism. Beside you still didn’t answer what make Marxist Leninism not the Socialism, while the origin Marxism is socialism, while both ideologies use the state not the worker council as the representation of “public”.
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@kapitanpufferfish5164 Don’t forget your Nazi and fascist leftist brothers. Beside by dissing hundreds year of labour theory and movement against automation and industrialisation as capitalistic, you already insulting your leftist brothers. Beside your left along the Marxist feminism your patriarchy, it should be brother and sister for you.
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@hrhkingedwardviii "from the perspective of Hitler" you said, Isreal was not a thing yet, and still the existence of Gypsy would still muddy up your narrative. As nation and race were not totally interchangeable .
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@hrhkingedwardviii they were race without nation (without their own land), so nation and race is not totally interchangeable, even in 1900s perspective.
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Have you ever head about Utopia Socialism, which is an Socialism predated Marxism and didn’t use class theory?
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@JamesMacdonald-iu3gp Democratic socialist regimes like the SPD Weimar Republic permitted private companies. Private companies exist in modern Cuba and the Vietnam Communist Regime. Even Lenin's USSR permitted private companies during NEP. If we use your standard of no private companies, nearly no socialism other than the most authoritative Communism can be classified as Socialism.
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The classic meaning of democracy of Greece and Rome didn’t really promise that much, look at how communist countries stretched the meaning of democracy ( which some people in the West during Cold War really believed in that), you will know within the full range of democracy, how narrow the range of western democracy actually is.
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Yes, in the video even the dictator claiming themselves representing their people fall into the definition of democracy. The point is more about the “Western Democracy” is not just democracy, it also included other concepts like freedom of expression, check and balance of power and rule of law. Two terms have different meaning, next time when a fascist or communist telling you that they support democracy, you might need to think about which democracy they are talking about
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@davehunt2191 Are you suggesting, that even the part that TIK pointed out that Mussolini had a Jewish mistress was lying and fundamentally wrong? Beside, there is no social Darwinism ideology base on race or class in fascist literature. (Hawkins, M. (1997). Nazism, Fascism and Social Darwinism. In Social Darwinism in European and American Thought, 1860–1945: Nature as Model and Nature as Threat (pp. 286, 289). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. doi:10.1017/CBO9780511558481.012)
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4:17 TIK said Mussolini was not anti-semantic until 1938, the last few years of Mussolini was not included.
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@hrhkingedwardviii "the slavic nation is the slavic " Any reference to proof that people in that time period really think like that? I never come across any record or document with that perspectives.
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Sadly, those refutative critiques you stated can also be commonly found in the Communist States in real life. If you can refute Hitler and his ideology from socialism just by all those things you mentioned, Lenin and his Marxist-Leninism would also not be socialism. Regarding Nationalised Trade Union: Historically Nazi, Fascists and Communist Regime had the same approach toward trade Union——Nationalisation. Nazi nationalised all Labor Union into DAF like Cuba nationalised all Union into CTC, USSR to ACCTU, and Italy to Fascist Trade Unions. Ideologically, Lenin said “Today we can no longer confine ourselves to proclaiming the dictatorship of the proletariat. The trade unions have to be governmentalised; they have to be fused with state bodies. The work of building up large-scale industry has to be entrusted entirely to them. But all that is not enough. “(V. I. Lenin Report at the Second All-Russia Trade Union Congress January 20, 1919) In real life, use the CTC of Cuba as an example. None of them have the right to strike and collective bargaining. (Por Pedro Pablo Morejon, There Aren’t Any Real Unions in Cuba) “There was no change in Cuba where the single trade union system persists, there is no genuine collective bargaining and the right to strike is not recognised in law. “ (2007 Annual Survey of violations of trade union rights - Cuba) ____________________ Regarding arresting leftist opposition: More leftists were killed in the great Purge of the USSR and PRC than in Nazi Germany in peacetime (1933 to 1939). USSR: According to the official record, at least 41,000 Red Army personnel were sentenced to death by Military Courts, and 10000 more Political prisoners (not ex-kulaks) were executed in the Gulag during the great purge. PRC: Just in the Sufan movement of 1955-1957, which targeted the counter-revolutionary within the party and the government, 53,000 abnormal deaths. Nazi German: “Historians estimate the total of all those kept in the concentration camps in 1933 at around 100,000, and that does not count those picked up by the SA, beaten, kept for a time, and released without being formally charged. The estimates for these “wild” camps run to another 100,000.” (Gellately, R. “Hitler’s True Believers: How Ordinary People Became Nazis.” p158. )  Out of those 200,000 prisoners, from various sources can be found online, the highest number of German Communist (the left elements) executed/died in Concentration Camp was ranged from 20000 to 30000. At the low end of the estimation, only 600 communists were killed in 1933. (Gellately, R. “Hitler’s True Believers: How Ordinary People Became Nazis.” p158. )  “[Hitler] rejected from the outset the idea that the millions who voted for the KPD or the SPD could simply be “forbidden” [from the people’s community], and he was fully aware that the process of getting them integrated in the community could take years.” (Gellately, R. “Hitler’s True Believers: How Ordinary People Became Nazis.” p163. ) “By July 1934 only around 4,700 prisoners remained, and a Hitler amnesty on August 7, 1934, cut the number to 2,394, 67 percent of whom were in Bavaria.” (Gellately, R. “Hitler’s True Believers: How Ordinary People Became Nazis.” p162. ) The rest of those 200,000 were released from the concentration camps.
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⁠ @LeeZaslofsky Given the fact that every [other characteristics inherent in Socialism] was immediately ditched by every Communist State once they raised to power. As long as they were still being classified as Socialist State and their ideology as Socialism, the same standard should too apply to Nazi German and Nazism. It is not just Stalin you need to cut to refute Hitler from Socialism, you need to basically refute every Communist State and their Communism from being Socialist States and Socialism in order to refute Nazism from Socialism. Saying Nazi Germany made no effort to nationalise the economy was utterly false. No historian you mentioned in your previous comment ever stated that. The properties of Heinrich Lübbe, Professor Junker and Fritz Thyssen were seized by the State. The Reichsbahn - the German railways - was officially nationalized in 1937. All the state property that was previously privatized through selling stock was renationalized in 1937 by the 1937 corporate law, which removed the shareholder's "right to vote on dividend policy and on the dismissal of directors (Mertens, 2007: 95-96). Moreover, the government was empowered to dissolve any corporation deemed to endanger the national welfare without the need to compensate shareholders (Mertens, 2007: 101)." (THE RISE AND FALL OF THE GERMAN STOCK MARKET, 1870-1938) Bank Act of 1934 allowed the government to exercise tight control over private banks(Bel, “Against the Mainstream,” P20.), Both governments [Nazi and Soviet] reorganised industry into larger units, ostensibly to increase state control over economic activity. The Nazis reorganised industry into 13 administrative groups with a large number of subgroups to create a private hierarchy for state control. The state therefore could direct the firms’ activities without acquiring direct ownership of enterprises. The pre-existing tendency to form cartels was encouraged to eliminate competition that would destabilise prices. (Temin, “Soviet and Nazi Economic Planning in the 1930s,” p582-583.) Hitler also stated that ending class inequality among Aryans was one of the "obligations on our shoulders" in Mein Kampf, even if it was as faint as the democratic election Mao advocated for during the Cultural Revolution, which Mao's faction (including Mao) immediately halted once the Rebel factions lost the election of the formation of the Tianjin City Revolutionary Committee to a "conservative" on 23/3/1967. (巴黎公社原則在文革中的蛻變，李遜) PS: Lenin also purged the syndicalists, Revolutionary Socialists and the Kronstadt rebellion during the Red Terror.
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PRC also allow private companies in their early year, two of the small star in PRC national flag was the urban petty bourgeoisie and the national bourgeoisie. In Communist Mannufasto, Karl Marx also suggested "(iv) Organization of labor or employment of proletarians on publicly owned land, in factories and workshops, with competition among the workers being abolished and with the factory owners, in so far as they still exist, being obliged to pay the same high wages as those paid by the state. " as a course of this revolution. (private companies is still permitted in Socialist State, as long as under heavy regulation, just as Geramn did in pre-war year[for more detail you may read "The Vampire Economics"])
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@placeholder4819 Only sell to the party member(Bel, G. "Against the mainstream: Nazi privatization in 1930s Germany," Universitat de Barcelona, PDF p3 + p9.) , which is the extension of the party and the extension of the state, when the party is the state. "Both governments [Nazi and Soviet] reorganised industry into larger units, ostensibly to increase state control over economic activity. The Nazis reorganised industry into 13 administrative groups with a large number of subgroups to create a private hierarchy for state control. The state therefore could direct the firms’ activities without acquiring direct ownership of enterprises. The pre-existing tendency to form cartels was encouraged to eliminate competition that would destabilise prices.”Temin, “Soviet and Nazi Economic Planning in the 1930s,” p582-583. "...in practice the Reichsbank and the Reich Ministry of Economic Affairs had no intention of allowing the radical activists of the SA, the shopfloor militants of the Nazi party or Gauleiter commissioners to dictate the course of events. Under the slogan of the 'strong state', the ministerial bureaucracy fashioned a new national structure of economic regulation." (Tooze, “Wages of Destruction," p112.) “We worked and governed with incredible elan. We really ruled. For the bureaucrats of the Ministry the contrast to the Weimar Republic was stark. Party chatter in the Reichstag was no longer heard. The language of the bureaucracy was rid of the paralysing formula: technically right but politically impossible.” (Schacht, speaking of the situation after 1933, quoted from Tooze, "Wages of Destruction," p112-113.) “Manufacturers in Germany were panic-stricken when they heard of the experiences of some industrialists who were more or less expropriated by the State. These industrialists were visited by State auditors who had strict orders to “examine” the balance sheets and all bookkeeping entries of the company (or individual businessman) for the preceding two, three, or more years until some error or false entry was found. The slightest formal mistake was punished with tremendous penalties. A fine of millions of marks was imposed for a single bookkeeping error. Obviously, the examination of the books was simply a pretext for partial expropriation of the private capitalist with a view to complete expropriation and seizure of the desired property later. The owner of the property was helpless, since under [National Socialism] there is no longer an independent judiciary that protects the property rights of private citizens against the state. The authoritarian State has made it a principle that private property is no longer sacred.” (Reimann, “The Vampire Economy,” Chapter 2.)
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North Korea can fit right into this definition. The definition did not imply the election cannot be rigged, or even there is an election at all.
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Nazism can be classified as a socialist ideology because: 1. Hitler wanted to end class inequality, too. He claimed that is one of the "obligations on our shoulders" stated in Mein Kampf. (He may lie, but so as many Socialists which still being classified as Socialist despite running authoritarian regimes) 2. Hitler attempted to organise the economy centrally and increase social welfare. Workers had fixed wages, the “private sector” could not fire or hire workers without the permission of DAF, and the State heavily subsidised them, and most of those “private sector” were controlled by Nazi members. 3. Hitler’s action aimed to serve its socialised entity, the race, instead of industrialising Russia demonstrates, clearly rejected the practice of capital export, which was characteristic of the phase of state (monopoly) capitalism. 4. Hitler wanted to solve his “Shrinking Market Problem” by agriculturalise the Lebensraum to create a constant supply and demand between the Reich for industrial products and the Lebensraum for agricultural products
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This definition of democracy excluded the classical democracy of Ancient Rome, Greece or maybe even USA before the passing of Thirteenth Amendment. Maybe it would be better to use a separate term other than democracy to describe democracy with those 4 “immutable elements” to prevent confusion.
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Are you implying Communist regimes were dedicated to implementing their ideology in real live? Soviet Union before 1922 and after 1980, Vietnam after 1988, PRC before 1956 and after 1980 (before 1989) and Cube after 2000 had all allowed the existence of private firms to run within their state regulated markets. If they can still be classified as socialist state and practicing socialism. The same standard should too apply to Nazi German and Nazism. Those historians are correct to state that Nazi Germany was not implementing the ideological socialism that has never been implemented, but it doesn’t mean that Nazi Germany was not running the “Actually Existing Socialist” system that also ran in those communist countries.
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@baryonyxwalkeri3957 Totalitarianism is opposite to the concept of check and balance of power, freedom of expression and rule of law and human right. So you cannot fit the “European Democracy” (which have all those concepts I just mentioned) into the etymology of totalitarianism. Just think democracy as a narrow road, and totalitarianism is a car. With just the the term democracy, the car of totalitarianism can pass through the road of democracy. But when adding the road block of check and balance of power, freedom of expression and rule of law and human right onto the road, only the small motorcycle of “western governments system” can pass through. The terminology of the road with those road blocks would be the “Western Democracy” you are mentioning. Millions of people believed and died in such “democracy” word game already, self-alternate the meaning of democracy will only make you easier to be deceived.
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The definition of Socialism is social ownership of mean of production. The socialise entity can be race, class or even gender. National Socialism is not Marxism but both are socialism. Hitler Socialism is race socialism which socialised by race instead of class like Marxist Class socialism. The socialised enemy of class socialism is the capitalist, while the socialised enemy of race socialism is Jews. As communism and class socialism are the product of Karl Marx(a Jews), so he also hated them as Class socialism hate capitalist. Regarding State Capitalism, As Hitler and his party centralise Germany Economy and increase the social welfare 11:27 and his action was aim to serve its socialised entity the race 32:44 instead of maximising profit, the state can still consider as Sociallist state instead of State Capitalism. PS: the time stamp is for another TIK video called “Hitler's Socialism: The Evidence is Overwhelming”
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Your definition of Democracy cannot even included the US Democracy in 1789 or even Democracy, only property-owning or tax-paying white males (about 6% of the population) can vote. So, maybe someone should make a new term to describe Western Democracy, the democarcy bandled with freedom of assembly, association, property rights, freedom of religion and speech, inclusiveness and equality, citizenship, consent of the governed, voting rights, freedom from unwarranted governmental deprivation of the right to life and liberty, and minority rights, with less Geopolitical characteristics.
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@thefrenchareharlequins2743 You means other than the fact that they using the same rhetoric to describe their democracy?
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@thefrenchareharlequins2743 USSR and North Korea also had their communist parliament which was also elected by their people. The standard of “democracy” (illiberal democracy) was very low, but the standard of democracy (liberal democracy) was very high. It is the fact that he need to subvert the contemporary parliament democracy made him anti-democratic (liberal democracy) Even if Mosley said there would be elections in his fascist regime, at most you can said he is as democratic as the “Communist Democracy”, which is a kind of illiberal democracy and cannot put him in the category of pro-democratic (liberal democracy).
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@thefrenchareharlequins2743 Because again they are using the same rhetoric to describe their democracy. There is a list questions to determine if a political system truly democratic or not. Here are few. Did Mosley's fascism protect the freedom of expressing anti-fascist opinion or allow the anti-fascist be elected in the election.
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@thefrenchareharlequins2743 Again, North Korea allow to vote, and they can also be classified as democratic if we use the very low standard of illiberal democracy. Yet, Liberal democracy is the status quo standard of the democracy that we would use in our daily life.
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⁠ @thefrenchareharlequins2743 Yeah, he deserved an asterisk in his anti-democratic. That is actually how Communist election system work. All working unit leaders are actually elected by the members of each the working unit layer by layer. That system can be easily rigged in real life
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@SmartDave60 ALL members of society?? Including bourgeoisie under Marxism? ALL members of society didn't equal to all member of the state. Most of the Marxist socialism that inharrent the concept of class struggle would eliminate the existence of every classes but proletariat from the society by revolution in theory by purging and force education IRL. I really cannot see how transforming a muilti-class society into a mono-class society is to provide a level playing field for ALL members of society. Furthermore, even in a multi-class society, the government can still achieve socialism though providing a level playing field for ALL members of society by nationalisation key industrial sectors, strong intervention into the private firms, and implementation of strong social welfare to workers, which were what NAZI German, fascist Italy and Nasser Egypt did in policy and theory. PS: Like USSR, the result of the implementation of those policies were distorted by many factors like corruption, black market , natural or human disaster and etc. These were just the policy they try to implement didn't mean they really worked and not fucked up their own economy in any degree for all the cases of USSR ,NAZI German ,fascist Italy and Nasser Egypt.
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@TheseUseless That is Marxist class Socialism. Have you ever head about Utopia Socialism, which is an Socialism predated Marxism and didn’t use class theory?
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Would you use the word corruption on Arab-Socialism? Or you would just used corruption to describe racial socialism if only Nazism is within the category of Racial Socialism?
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@F_Bardamu People, including every authoritarian Marxist, have been using democracy to legitimise their dictatorship/authoritarian since the Reign of Terror in 1793. The original definition of Totalitarianism is "total representation of the nation and total guidance of national goals." it is also based on the concept of "democracy"----“a way of governing that represents the will of people( which is equal to the will of whole nation/society).” Suppose North Korea's Democracy cannot be classified as Democracy under any circumstances. People would not require to created terms “liberal democracy” to differentiate Contemporary Western Democracy from North Korean “illiberal democracy”. The lesson here is don’t be deceived by the democracy from the mouths of any politicians. The democracy you think they are saying may not be the “democracy” they are referring to.
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The other available word for describing Racial ideology filled Socialism like Nazism is just Socialism. Would you also call other Racial Socialisms like Arab socialism and Labor Zionism fascism? If you want to emphasise Nazi dictatorial system, you can call it an Authoritarian Socialism.
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@hrhkingedwardviii “nation and race were interchangeable “
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