Comments by "Scott Kenny" (@ScottKenny1978) on "Chinese Warlord Pistols: The Huge Shanxi .45 ACP Broomhandle" video.

  1.  @classicnestetris3268  you and me both.
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  2. That's actually why this c96 is in .45. Shanxi had equipped their troops with Thompson SMGs as their shoulder arm, and wanted one caliber to rule them all. I mean feed them all. So all Shanxi troops used .45acp.
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  3. "I refuse to depend on another province or nation to supply my home with the means to protect itself." Shanxi made Thompson SMGs, these C96s, and ammunition to feed them. These were not Luty made at home crap, these were full on military production in a time when not working right meant losing a battle and maybe even losing the entire province. Exterior fit and finish might be weak, but internally these are as good as anything from DWM.
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  4. Several videos on the Schnellfeuer ("fast fire" auf Deutsch). I don't think that Shanxi made any, though.
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  5. It's still used to say "made by hand" here. Problem is that a hand made firearm is of poor quality.
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  6. Color me very jealous!
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  7. You and me both! This one is on my "won the lottery list"
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  8.  @slade9372  I think it's an original stock, not required to be serialized to the pistol, but yes. Any modern reproduction would make it an SBR under current rules, nevermind the proposed changes.
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  9.  @brannonwinchester7054  thank you! And ugh, that's messy!
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  10.  @5amH45lam  you make the entire set into a single stamp.
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  11. Since they'd be about $5,000? Probably no one. You'd need to get them down to about $1000 before people would consider the idea.
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  12. This is the one I want.
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  13. $5,000+.
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  14.  @beargillium2369  it's all 230gr FMJ. That alone helps the recoil consistency. And Shanxi was making good quality items, so there's little chance of poor loads. This is also in a time where Shanxi was in constant danger of invasion from other warlords, so there was a big push to make it right. Just like IMI today.
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  15. ? These specific pistols are excellent quality. Not that there aren't a lot of worse-than-khyber-pass quality pistols out there, but these are solid.
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  16. Nope. "My troops all carry Thompson SMGs, and I don't want two different types of pistol ammunition."
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  17.  @JacobusKFourie  if I'm right, the bolt can travel farther than it needs to properly eject and feed the next round. But the spring is enough to stop the bolt before it hits the end of travel, like a constant recoil gun. To load, you have to pull the bolt all the way to the rear, where it can lock on the hammer. This is, say, ⅛"/3mm farther than normal operation travel.
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  18.  @beargillium2369  you may be right, but with the hammer being used as the locking surface for the bolt, the easy way would definitely be to have the bolt travel a bit less than needed under normal recoil. When you're only loading 230gr FMJ, it's easier to account for recoil distance. I mean, the upper works of the Type 17 are almost 20% bigger than the C96.
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  19.  @beargillium2369  huh. I must have missed that it locks all the way open on an empty magazine. I thought it locked open on the follower and you had to pull the bolt back a bit further to lock it on the hammer.
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  20.  @beargillium2369  what I mean is that the bolt doesn't go far enough back to catch on the hammer under normal operation. You have to pull the bolt farther back than it goes under recoil to catch the hold-open.
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  21.  @jakeblanton6853  crud, I'd just as soon load it with .450smc and watch the fun. Uses thicker brass and a small rifle primer to light a +P load, but it acts like an actual magnum load in long barrels. 1400fps out of a 16" barrel!
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  22. It looks like Seal Script to me. Which is the super formal style. The European equivalent would be the calligraphy style used in monasteries.
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  23. I think that the bolt doesn't travel all the way back to catch on the hammer under recoil.
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  24. Eh, that's probably because the C96 had them. People were expecting stupid long range shots with pistols at the time. Even with the shoulder stock fitted.
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  25.  @itsapittie  yup. Overly optimistic, to say the least.
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  26. Probably $5000 or more. Lots and lots of work in making these.
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  27. No Chinese .45acp C96 were full auto. I think some of the Spanish ones were.
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  28. The point was that everyone in China knew the C96. This was a c96, but bigger. Because Shanxi was using Thompson SMGs as their shoulder arm and wanted one caliber to rule them all. I mean feed them all.
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  29. I don't know. I mean, the sear faces aren't anywhere near each other using the hammer to lock the bolt like that. Maybe some extra travel out of the mainspring.
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  30. Simplicity. Chinese characters suck for serial numbers. There's no zero. There are characters for tens, hundreds, thousands, and even ten thousands, but no zero.
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  31.  @brannonwinchester7054  huh. Never seen it in either Chinese or Japanese... /Shrug
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  32. Very optimistic thinking about an entire platoon or company opening up at that range, with an entire battalion as the target. They were still in Napoleonic thinking with big blocks of troops under tight control.
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  33. Made under his orders, yes. Not his personal gun.
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  34. They'd be stupid expensive. Forged steel requires specific tooling to make the shapes in one go. The Lugerman copies are $5000+ for that reason.
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  35.  @theeggman1199  probably, but you lose strength by not forging it. So some parts would have to be thicker to compensate. Now you're messing with weights and dimensions, which introduces more potentials for error. And that lengthens your development time.
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  36.  @snappers_antique_firearms  definitely on my list to own.
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  37. In this specific case, it was because their regular troops had Thompson SMGs. Dude running the province understood logistics, wanted one caliber to rule them all. I mean feed them all. So he ordered his arsenal to make a pistol in .45acp to match the Thompson.
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  38.  @beargillium2369  ah. Interesting. That definitely is the easy way to use the hammer as a bolt hold open. I'm just surprised that the bolt works that way. Very strange.
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