Comments by "Richard Jones" (@EE12CSVT) on "Why Dating And Marriages FAIL So Much In The WEST: What Men Need To Understand About Women" video.

Yep, they either explode like the Tsar Bomba or they have a monumental sulk, or they just look at you like you've kicked them in the guts. Just because you politely but firmly showed her you have boundaries, or told her she has to stop doing something that is going to harm her, you, and third parties. Then all the words start, aboose, controlling.
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Boredom. They've got to have that emotions from you. They want a guy they can fight with. Why do you think they go after Mr Bad Boy.
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 @allseeingotto2912 Up until 55 or so..
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Correct. Men learn very quickly to not disrespect me or they'll get dumped out of my life. I've only had to do that with one of them who refused to listen. When I'm in a new situation, I make it clear in how interact with people how I expect them to treat me, and I'll do the same with them. It works. I have to do this because of my professional background where if I didn't, I'd get walked over. Women, though, still try to treat me like they assume I have no boundaries even though they see what everyone else sees. They do it because every other man has bent to her will, right? They discover very early on that I don't tolerate her behaving badly. They don't hang around and modify their behaviour, though. They go crying off and look for a simp with no backbone. People in the groups I'm in know I have a reputation that nobody talks to me like that, and they don't. Women I attract on a 'romantic' level think they still can, and discover they can't.
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@Eye_of_Horus When I figure out I've got a child in front of me, I talk to her like she's 12, because that's what she is. Oh boy, they don't like it. They want to be treated as an adult, but they're incapable of it. After all these decades I still haven't figure out a way to happily deal with these children. You can only have a healthy relationship if both are adults, so you can both take each other seriously. The last woman I met who I could take seriously was 24 years ago.
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@Eye_of_Horus Every woman I've met over the 24 years, bar two, has resented that she can't break my frame, that I'm not the pushover she assumed me to be. This happens very early on. When I did used to date and have girlfriends/partners/affairs in the 1990s, they all knew how to adult. I didn't have to treat any of them as a child at any point because if they had that quality, I certainly never got to see it.
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Because adult women are unicorns...
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They are, and sadly Bo just enables it all. He's giving men the message that they have to tolerate all this crap, play these stupid games, pander to these wretched train wreck women. Because, guess what, in the past, dating was fun, light, carefree, enjoyable. Now, your cortisol levels are through the roof because apparently we have to 'handle' women we should be running away from faster than Usain Bolt.
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Correct. Bo expects men to pander to them.
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@allseeingotto2912 Not really. When you get to a stage in life where it 'sticks' you don't have to worry about it any more. The trouble is, Bo is incorrect when he says women respect men with frame. Only unicorns do. Otherwise, it's a big turnoff. Women hate it that they can't break my frame, and I see them go running off to other guys whose frame they do break. Men try testing my frame - as I expect them to - but when they discover they can't, they then respect me for it, and I respect them back. The only men who don't respect me for it are narcissist and psychopath men.
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22:10 'it's your job as a man to get it to the deeper level of the argument.' Yes, I know. So why can't the 'emotionally mature' woman do that? Why is it the man's job to fix a problem of communication?
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@Eye_of_Horus Yes, it's likely I didn't get to see it. But there are women whose husbands have told me they've never had to 'handle' them because they didn't go out of control.
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Your confidence, your inability to be thrown off course by any person or life's events. Women must exist within a man's frame of reference. Think of it as containment. She will test it to see how strong you are, to see if she can destroy your confidence. No, they shouldn't, but they do. And hardly any men in marriages/LTRs have a strong frame that their woman hasn't shattered. Contrary to what Bo says, women don't like men with a strong frame. They're repelled by it. Once they see a humorous, confident, outgoing, dominant guy, that'll attract her, and the tests begin. When she realises that nothing she does throws him off course, doesn't make him psychologically weaker and thus able to be controlled or used by her, she's off to find a guy whose frame she can break. Men test each other's frame, and they need to. That's how it's strengthened. I only know of three men with a strong frame that their wives haven't demolished. Three. All the other men have been crushed by their wives or girlfriends.
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Bo has been a simp for some time. He tries to 'teach' men how to put up with garbage women, and that they should because if they don't pander to these pieces of trash they're 'not a real man' or something. You just don't get involved with these entitled little girls, but Bo seems to encourage it.
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I do, wirhim hours or days or meeting her. Every. Single. One.
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34:20 Nope, I know the rules, I know the game. Very well. If you're 'enjoying' playing a 'game' with a child who has no idea how to communicate, then you've failed because you're tolerating a train wreck. Those men that Bo denigrate who say that women need to behave better are right - those were the women I dated or had affairs/relationships with in the 90s. They were feminine women who knew how to behave, were psychologically very well adjusted. There was no 'game' to enjoy playing. I was me, they were them, we enjoyed a bit of flirting, we liked the look of each other, and we got together. None of those women were the 'men' that Bo seems to think they were. There were several other such fit, feminine women orbiting me hoping I'd give them a chance. Those men are right. You just don't tolerate the women who don't behave like that.
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Oh no, if you stand firm, it's a huge turn off. In the vast majority of marriages/LTRs/relationships I see, the man most certainly doesn't stand firm. He's been trampled underfoot a long time ago. Only three men 'stand firm' and their wives respect them for it probably because they're decent women. With all other women, 'standing firm' against her is the quickest way to get rid of her.
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You just don't. IME it's not about the thing they're shouting about or anything from the past, it's to goad the guy into shouting back and reacting negatively. Which is why just shrugging your shoulders and saying whatever when she starts it is the worst thing to do as it pulls the rug from under her feet.
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Have you tried not being a pain in the arse in the first place? Maybe give that a go?
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Dr Orion Taraban, Psyhacks
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Yes, but it's nearly all LTRs and marriages, unless you can find a unicorn who doesn't do it, along with all the other negative things they do. Women try to goad me this way within minutes of meeting her.
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... except pretty much all women in marriages/LTRs break the frame of the man they're with, and they absolutely, definitely, categorically have to be in charge from Day One, boast about it regularly, and are very satisfied to. It's been this way for decades in the UK. It's part of well accepted national comedy that the man is under the thumb of his wife, and he has to ask her permission to do things as a boy does his stern mother who runs his life. The married men who 'hold frame' are vanishingly rare.
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Yes, and they'll explode with rage, have a sulk, or look at you with disgust or crushing disappointment. And that's the last you see of them.
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@JohnSkyLey The guy's a simp who tries to teach men to put up with and 'handle' garbage women. The vast majority of men in LTRs or marriages have had their frame broken very early on. I can think of only three married men who haven't been crushed, and in one case it's because he has to keep her on a tight leash. The experience of bachelors I know mirrors mine - once women realise they can't break their frame, they're off. It's so prevalent here in the UK that it's part of the national sense of humour and forms many jokes for decades. The woman disrespects her husband, or he has to grovel to her, or constantly apologise for nothing. Women love it. I also found the same in the workplace when several female colleagues tried to 'test,' I'd pass in Bo's terms but fail in theirs. They hated it and they then had animosity towards me because they couldn't break my frame. Ty X Worldwide on YT is much more on the money.
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25:30 onwards, yes, Bo is correct about what frame is and how to get it. But, he's wrong IME and observation when he says women want that in a man. They don't. It's a turn off. Men test me. They fail, and that way I get their respect. I get the respect of the bigger, younger Chad bodybuilders at the gym and I have a good relationship with them. I'm dominant around people and in situations. I charm people very, very easily, to build a rapport and in the service sector, they're very helpful towards me because of how easily I've buipt and maintained thosd relationships from a position of authority, presence and so on. A few years ago I started talking with a local businessman who out of the blue said that I was the new CEO who'd just been appointed at the place we were discussing. I had to let him down and say I wasn't. He assumed that from my presence, confidence, charisma, erudition, dress, grooming, etc etc. To me, that's effortless. Same happens online. I've just been appointed volunteer regional organiser for a national politics group I'm in, and I guess my current 'patch' is some 3000 sq miles. I've much to organise for it. I suppose my background in public speaking and as a tour guide has a lot to do with it. But, but, but, women see all this. I see that they test me. I pass the sh1t tests by Bo's définition. I don't really notice they take place much of the time, but what I notice is that it causes women to lose interest. All this must intimidate them. They figure out that because in their eyes I've failed (ie I don't crumble) they can't manipulate, use, or control. Therefore I'm no use to her. This has been every woman I've met over the past 24 years except for two. So yes, you need to 'pass' the tests from a masculine perspective, but from a woman's POV, it means you fail. She wants the weak man who's on her chain, who's her slave, who'll never speak up against her. That's the vast majority of marriages I know. They've passed the woman's test but utterly failed it from Bo's point of view. Women don't want men. If you want a woman, you've got to show that you're a pushover, that you'll grovel at her feet, that you're her free simp servant. I turned down a wedding invite from one such man.
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2:20 If a guy is stoic in the face of her emotionality, if you say 'we're not doing this any more', if you're not getting upset because of her antagonism, she leaves. She HAS to have a guy who fights back at her the same base level she fights at him. Sure it's unhealthy, but guess what Being stoic and not rising to her tantrum or her goading you, and telling her calmly but firmly that you're not doing that simply results in an even more epic tantrum before she storms off to find a guy with no backbone who'll fight back against her. You've got to give them that emotional energy back. If you don't, you're no use to her. In my life I've only met three women who respected that stoic approach. All other women were turned off by it.
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Bo has been on this simp grift for some time, so it's not recent. He advocates in many videos that men have to learn to 'handle' garbage women, and then tells us that any man who refuses to want to date these train wrecks isn't 'man enough'. He seems to be quite content to pander to these garbage women just to have a relationshit with them, so he's still leading with his little head. He clearly doesn't have the experience he claims he has else he'd know to walk away from these useless XX right at the start, but he seems to enjoy putting up with that garbage.
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51/M/never married, it makes no difference if you source your women from anywhere other than OF/IG/bars. They're no different. I've met very highly qualified women in very responsible careers behave in the same way as common 304s found in bars, and I met those women at high profile social events. No matter where you look, you find the same behaviour and attitudes. Maybe a young librarian might be uncorrupted, unless the university system already did that.
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What you describe is how co-dependents have to operate around narcissists they've been sucked in by. Guess what... Apart from a few exceptions, the only men I see around the place who are happy and spontaneous and who are themselves are either bachelors like me or divorced men who got over their divorce and are single. It's rare to find a unhappy bachelor. The men who are married/LTR have long since been crushed by the woman, and you can easily see it in how they carry themselves. I stand out among them because I'm cheerful, engaging, confident and assertive. When I did used to date or have affairs in the 90s, I was able to be cheerful, happy and spontaneous and have women around me who didn't detract from that. It's now pretty much impossible. When I meet a woman, she tries to test me in the first few minutes to see if she can control/use me. I maintain my frame with every woman I meet. They hate it. Women don't want men with a solid frame, they want men they can crush, a man who folds when she starts giving him her treatment.
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Couldn't have said it better myself
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'Yeah, she'll.treat you like sh1t, but put up with it bro. You don't want to be a loser to gives up on them and their gross behaviour, do you? Man up, let yourself be crushed or learn how to fight her.'
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