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Comments by "Historia, Magistra Vitae" (@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.) on "The EU Parliament’s New “Sovereignists” Group Explained" video.

Very little to do with the Far-Right.
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@meretricioussimp7759 : They would belong to the socialist category then.
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"nationalist far right parties" Not a thing really.
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These aren't even Far-Right parties.
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EU has always been full of these Far-Left parties.
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Nothing to do with Far-Right.
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@LeonClaesson "You can have a mixed economy and free market capitalism at the same time." No, you cannot. That is why it is called a Free Market in the fist place i.e. free from government intervention. Free market economies are specifically defined by a lack of government intervention and regulation. In modern times, no country runs purely under free market principles. Modern democracies impose regulations regarding product safety, working conditions, pollution standards, and other matters that touch on people at work and at home.
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@diogorodrigues747 "Which is an interesting take considering that the COVID vaccine is probably one of the most tested and used in all of human history" Which one? Like that Astra Zeneca vaccine which just got pulled out worldwide? You sure?
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There is no Far-Right in European mainstream politics in the first place.
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@alejandrobasombrio3803 "How is collectivism inherently leftist?" That is how the modern day political spectrum seems to work. After all, socialism is on the (far) left side of the spectrum. The fundamental differences between left-wing and right-wing ideologies center around the the rights of individuals vs. the power of the collective. Left-wing beliefs are based on the idea that society is best served with an expanded role for the collective, for the benefit of all (collectivism). Meanwhile people on the right believe that the best outcome for society is achieved when individual rights and civil liberties are paramount (individualism) and the role — and especially the power — of the government is minimized.
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@aardappelmethoed1151 : Nope. Nativism, ethnonationalism and integralism are all, different forms of collectivism after all. Not to mention, that Fascism was a socialist Far-Left ideology.
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Nothing Far-Right about this.
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@wedjet " “Fascism's extreme authoritarianism and nationalism often manifest as a belief in racial purity or a master race, usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews, homosexuals, ethnic minorities, or immigrants. These ideas have motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, deportations, and genocides.”" This is the definition of National Socialism, not Fascism. They were two different ideologies.
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@wedjet "Nazism is a subset of Fascism." Wrong. National Socialism wasn't a Neo-Fascist movement. It was its own movement, known as National Socialism. Both ideologies were a subset of the 3rd position though.
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@wedjet : "A simple search would tell you "Nazism is a form of fascism," with at least 4 references." a simple search would tell you that the Earth is flat as well. I highly suggest not taking everything what people say online seriously, but to go and actually read some history regarding this topic. Again, Nazism had nothing to do with Fascism whatsoever. They were fundamentally different ideologies. For a book recommendation, I personally suggest "Fascism: An Informal Introduction to Its Theory and Practice" by Renzo De Felice.
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@LeonClaesson "The Far-Righ are way more racist. " Wrong. Far-Right isn't racist at all. People on the right believe that the best outcome for society is achieved when individual rights and civil liberties are paramount and the role — and especially the power — of the government is minimized.
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@LeonClaesson "They want to kill or forcefully expel ethnic minorities from their countries." Nothing to do with Far-Right whatsoever.
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@LeonClaesson "While the normal right mostly talk about tax cuts and law&order." Now this is part of the Far-Right, also the following; free market and laissez-faire economics and civil liberties under the rule of law, with special emphasis on individual autonomy, limited government, economic freedom, political freedom and freedom of speech. Case and point, see Javier Milei.
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@LeonClaesson "Wrong. The far-right is racist. " Wrong. They are not. Again, People on the right believe that the best outcome for society is achieved when individual rights and civil liberties are paramount and the role — and especially the power — of the government is minimized.
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@LeonClaesson "Fascists (the far-right) " Wrong. Fascism was a totalitarian Far-Left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism. Nothing to do with Right wing of any kind.
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@LeonClaesson "You seem to confuse the right with liberalism. " Liberalism is a Far-Right ideology in the modern political spectrum, Classical Liberalism especially.
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@LeonClaesson "Fascism = An ideology which belive in a strong state that can preserve the national identity and culture, through an ethnostate and strong military, with a capitalist economy. " Fascists had nothing to do with Capitalism. They very strictly anti-capitalists and their economy was based on socialism via Corporatism.
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@LeonClaesson "When I said "far-right" i meant fascism which is a far-right ideology since they belive in strong hierarchies." Again, Fascism had nothing to do with Far-Right nor Right wing of any kind. It was a socialist Far-Left ideology, a competitor to Marxism.
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@LeonClaesson "The Right = Ideologies which advocate for a system with a lot of strong hierarchies." Wrong. Every single political ideology advocates for hierarchies. Some more, some less. Left/Right has nothing to do with hierarchies.
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@LeonClaesson "Liberalism is the status quo." Not exactly, at least how it was established by John Locke. In many countries the Government is too big, and has too much regulations and influence over the economy, and also pushes various different progressive or religious agendas. Liberalism is only possible under a Night watchman state.
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@LeonClaesson "and we live under a free-market capitalist economy." No, we most certainly do not. There is no country in the world that has Free Market Capitalism. Every single modern day country has a Mixed economy, and are closer to Social-Democracy if anything. Free Market Capitalism means that the Government plays no part in the economics, including regulations, which is not happening.
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@alejandrobasombrio3803 " far from what is deemed as "far-right" (nativism, ethnic nationalism, fascism, integrism)" None of those are Far-Right things tho.... that's the problem. Those are Far-Left things.
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@LeonClaesson " Its not like the far-left wants a classless, moneyless and stateless society, aka a society freed from hierachies." Communism is not free from hierarchies. You will eventually have some kind of collective entity, informing the workers what they are supposed to produce and how much, i.e. central planners. Otherwise the workers cannot produce on the basis of need, if they do not even know who needs what, where and how much.
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@LeonClaesson "Yes, fascism, the ideology which advocates for a moneyless, classless and stateless society. " They did not advocate for Communism.
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@LeonClaesson "Its not like their entire ideology is based around having an extremely strict class system" They didn't. They specifically rejected the notion of "class struggle" and advocated for class collaboration, where everyone is equal under the iron boot of the Fascist state.
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@LeonClaesson "Its not like they killed far-leftists or anything. " Just like the Bolshevik did, during and after the October Revolution... and for the same reason; political rivalry.
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@LeonClaesson "I would honestly not be suprised if you said that the nazis loved jews at this point." I haven't even talked about National Socialism in this conversation. We have been talking about Fascism. Two different ideologies.
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@LeonClaesson "Wow. You have a very special way of seing politics." If the Far-Left is characterized by socialism and collectivism in general, then logic dictates, that the Far-Right is characterized by capitalism and individualism respectively. Therefore, people on the right believe that the best outcome for society is achieved when individual rights and civil liberties are paramount (individualism) and the role — and especially the power — of the government is minimized.
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@LeonClaesson "Fascism is an umbrella term for several ideologies, including National Socialsim." Wrong. The umbrella term you are looking for, is called the 3rd position. Fascism was a very specific ideology based on Hegelian philosophy and National Syndicalism.
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@LeonClaesson : From the founders of said ideology themselves.
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@LeonClaesson : Mussolini has never said such a thing. Both founders of the ideology have said Fascism being strictly a socialist ideology, and on the contrary, Mussolini later said Fascism being from the Left... and so did Neo-Fascists also, such as Oswald Mosley.
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Almost none of the are "Radical right" or Right in the first place. If you want to see what the radical right is about, look no further than what Javier Milei is doing.
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@EA-js1me "Ultranationalism, irredentism, isolationism, statism, militarism, authoritarianism, conspiracy theories like anti-vax, xenophobia, homophobia, transphobia, and “Christian values” whatever that means… but no, definitely not far-right." Only isolationism is a Far-Right characteristics out of the things you mentioned btw.
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... so Far-Left then.
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@basedness5205 "You know what far-right would be? Advocating for a mass genocide, ethnic cleansing, throwing LGBT community into prison, creating a violent militia... " Wrong. That would still be on the Far-Left. Not everyone on the Left is in favor of progressivism after all. Now what the Far-Right would be, look no further than Javier Milei.
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... so they are Far-Left then. Interesting.
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@Exodius3 : Wrong. National Socialism was a totalitarian Far-Left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on ethnonationalism. Nothing to do with Right wing of any kind.
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@Exodius3 "The NSDAP is considered a far right party ... There are some other speculations, but the NSDAP is sorted as far right, if you like it or not " Except they aren't, and whoever considers them as such has not read WW2 era history.
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@Exodius3 "It has conservative views both economically and socially" They had some conservative social values, sure. However conservatism and progressivism have nothing to do with the political left/right spectrum. Economically they were textbook socialists, with their centralized and planned economy, which was almost identical to the USSR under Stalin.
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Nothing to do with Far-Right.
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Nothing to do with Far-Right really.
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@meretricioussimp7759 "fascists are farright by definition. learn your basics" Wrong. Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. You just have no clue what you are talking about.
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"far right fascist," No such thing. Fascists were Far-Left socialists.
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@KnightRaymund : Nope. Go and read some history.
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@joythought "Unless someone lived under Pinochet or similar " Need to point out that while Pinochet was a dictator, he was the complete opposite of a Fascist... he was Neoliberal.
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There is no Fascism anywhere in Europe as of yet. The closest thing to Fascism we all have, which still is somewhat relevant, would be the Neo-Fascist movement in Argentina, called Peronism.
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@alejandrobasombrio3803 "Conservatism is somewhat "collectivist" for advocating for an homogeneous and traditional community, and integrism too for advocating for a theocracy. " Conservatism is a bit tricky, since by itself it doesn't mean anything per se, since it depends on what is considered "traditional" in whatever country we are talking about. What is considered traditional in China and America for example, is completely different. Integralism is just religious collectivism. For an individualist, makes no difference what subset of moral values the State is supposed to be enforcing... would still violate people's civil rights and freedom in general.
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