Comments by "Historia, Magistra Vitae" (@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.) on "Richard J Murphy" channel.

  1. Wrong. Not only is that antithetical to Fascism but it is also the complete opposite of it. What you are referring to is known as Corporatocracy, a completely different thing.
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  2.  @thepoliticalgardner  "fascism is the end point of capitalism." Wrong. The end point of Capitalism is Laissez-faire. Fascism strictly opposed both.
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  3.  @thepoliticalgardner  "That's a form of fascism." Wrong. That has nothing to do with Fascism whatsoever.
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  4. Those random traits have very little to do with Fascism per se. They apply to almost every authoritarian/totalitarian regime.
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  5. With all due respect, you people (activist Jason Stanley included) have no clue what Fascism means nor what it represented. Which is rather ironic, considering a well known Neo-Fascist Oswald Mosley was from your country. Please do your homework before making such videos, learn what Fascism was about, and stop using the word as a slur. For that, I highly suggest starting from the basics, such as "the Doctrine of Fascism" by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile. After that, "Fascism: An Informal Introduction to Its Theory and Practice" by Renzo De Felice.
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  6.  @thepoliticalgardner  "It was Mussolini's Ghost Wrtier Giovanni Gentile who coined the phrase Fascism should be called Corporatism." Wrong. Neither Mussolini nor Gentile has said such a thing. Common misquote. Corporatism ("corporativismo" in Italian) was their socialist economic model, and one of the cornerstone principles in fascism, and had to do with the way society and the economy would be organized, with state power at the head of a system of syndicates ("corporazione") representing each major industry. Mussolini's corporatist view stressed total state power over businesses as much as over individuals, via these governing industry bodies controlled by the Fascist party, in which businesses retained the responsibilities of property, but few if any of the freedoms.
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  7.  @thepoliticalgardner  "Mussolini's Fascism was government departments run by corporations along with major cities." Wrong. Corporations run nothing. Everything was run by the Fascist State. Again, you are referring to Corporatocracy which is a completely different thing than Fascism. Meanwhile under Fascism, there couldn't be any single economic interests which were above the general economic interests of the State, no individual, economic initiatives which did not fall under the supervision and regulation of the State.
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  8.  Minimmalmythicist  "the Nazis actually privatised a few companies after they got power, " Wrong. They didn't. Privatization was never a thing in Nazi Germany. On the contrary, they nationalized most if not all of the German industry and later reorganized all industries into corporations run by members of the Nazi Party. They had no Fascism either. National Socialism and Fascism were two fundamentally different ideologies.
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  9.  Minimmalmythicist  " Mussolini privatised quite a lot of state companies too." Wrong. He didn't. The only privatization the Fascist Italy saw was before Mussolini's actual dictatorship, during the early 1920s when Alberto de' Stefani was handling the economy. After 1925 he was fired and Mussolini ushered in his one-party dictatorship. Throughout the whole 1930s, both Fascist Italy and National Socialist Germany had the largest government owned public sectors in whole Europe, losing only to Stalin's USSR.
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  10.  @gerardpeterbrennan  "Socialist is not central Government control. Socialist is power for the people, not Central Government." Socialism is an economic system where the collective (such as workers, guilds, the government etc.) either directly own or control the buildings and tools that make goods and services like farms and factories. This can be achieved through decentralized and direct worker-ownership, or through centralized state-ownership or control of the means of production. National Socialists had the latter.
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  11. ​ @Redf322  What "wrong" exactly? I have never understood why it is "greed" to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money.
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  12.  @calzonelover3950  "Far right generally in this case based on ultra-nationalist and nativist tendencies ... A far right critique involves scapegoating migrants for economic problems they didn't cause, using racist stereotypes in this argument and the idea that there is a static national culture that must remain pure and can't exist without specific other cultures for some reason ... Far right leaders will convince you that you can improve living conditions by stopping immigration but not changing the way the economy operates." Nothing to with Right wing of any kind, as they do not subscribe to collectivism such as nationalism. In fact, people on the right believe that the best outcome for society is achieved when individual rights and civil liberties are paramount (individualism) and the role — and especially the power — of the government is minimized.
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  13.  @thepoliticalgardner  "In fact many economists like Jürgen Kuczynski who say it's basically Monopolistic Markets and Capitalism." Again, that is Corporatocracy, not Capitalism nor Fascism.
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  14. Neo-Liberalism is more or less the polar opposite of Fascism. It was socialism infused with statism and nationalism, which enabled Fascism and Fascists in general. Again, go and do your homework before making such videos.
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  15.  Minimmalmythicist  "Also, I would argue that fascist parties have varied on economics, they certainly aren´t socialist in any shape or form, " Wrong. They had a very specific socialist economic model known as Corporatism ("corporativismo" in Italian), which was one of the cornerstone principles in Mussolini's fascism, and had to do with the way society and the economy would be organized, with state power at the head of a system of syndicates ("corporazione") representing each major industry. Mussolini's corporatist view stressed total state power over businesses as much as over individuals, via these governing industry bodies controlled by the Fascist party, in which businesses retained the responsibilities of property, but few if any of the freedoms.
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  16.  Minimmalmythicist  "they are opposed to the idea of workplace democracy," Wrong. They didn't actually. Corporatism was a system where sectors of the economy were divided into syndicates (which were nationalized Unions that then elected their own members into government as well as democratically run their workspaces. Each profession and field had their own Syndicate, which in turn, operated symbiotically with its composed members), whose activities and interactions were managed and coordinated by the government. The idea was to let the state control and direct the economy from the top-down without itself owning the means of production.
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  17. "The truth is only the far-left/communism can combat fascism." No, just no. Fascism itself was a Far-Left ideology and literally a rival socialist ideology to Communism. As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, Fascism came from the belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. Only by eliminating socialism in general, we can combat and win Fascism.
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  18.  @gerardpeterbrennan  "Marx specifically called his sytem 'Dictatorship of the Proletariat,'" The Dictatorship of the Proletariat is a phase in which the proletariat take control over the State apparatus, and later the State is supposed to wither away which creates the Communist society, without the State, class and money.
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  19.  @eightiesmusic1984  "by which you mean the far right, " National Socialists were on the Far-Left though.
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  20.  @eightiesmusic1984  " because there are plenty who wrongly conflate national socialism with socialism. " National Socialism being one of the branches of socialism is a historical fact, hun. You cannot be an advocate for centralized planning and strong government controls without being a socialist. That's what made Hitler a socialist. He may have been to the right from the Bolsheviks, but he was still a socialist leftist as he believed in strong central government control. Hitler outright declared himself a socialist in Mein Kampf, just not the Marxist international or full Soviet type. He struggled with HOW to distinguish his socialism from the rest of the Marxist crowd.
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  21.  @eightiesmusic1984  "No-one associates modern day socialism with the party in power in Germany from 1933 to 1945 if indeed that is the comparison you were making." That is due to ignorance. Marxism is not the only socialist ideology around.
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  22.  @billpugh58  "No one but a few far right apologists and revisionists think that. " These are basic historical WW2 era facts. Nothing to do with any kind of far-right or "revisionists".
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  23. Fascism was strictly a socialist Far-Left ideology in the first place.
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  24.  @Incognito-jf1dr  "the Nazis in 1933 promised industrialists that they would destroy socialism and trade Unions.if in power . " That they would destroy Marxism / Communism, not socialism. They had no problems with socialism. "To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. ... the basic principle of my Party's economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority... the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?... Today's bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil. .. I will tolerate no opposition. We recognize only subordination – authority downwards and responsibility upwards. You just tell the German bourgeoisie that I shall be finished with them far quicker than I shall with Marxism... When once the conservative forces in Germany realize that only I and my party can win the German proletariat over to the State and that no parliamentary games can be played with Marxist parties, then Germany will be saved for all time, then we can found a German Peoples State. .. Over the last forty years the German bourgeoisie has been a lamentable failure; it has not given the German people a single leader; it will have to bow without gainsaying to the totality of my ideology... The bourgeoisie rules by intrigue, but it can have no foothold in my movement because we accept no Jews or Jewish accomplices into our Party." - Hitler's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed.,
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  25.  @Redf322  : They were Far-Left socialists.
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  26.  @strandedstarfish  : There was no Fascism in Germany. They had National Socialism.
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  27. Fascism is not a worry, anywhere. It's not a thing. Authoritarianism on the other hand, that is a problem.
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  28.  @dazjackson1972  : None of them are Fascists.
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  29. "Yes, Trump is a Fascist. " Nope. If anything, Trump is more or less the opposite of a Fascist, by being a capitalist "bourgeoisie".
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  30. Actually they are morally defensible, easily. For example, do you believe that stealing money is wrong? Do you think greed is a bad thing?
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  31.  @calzonelover3950  "it's literally the definition from Wikipedia. " And that is yet another word / term that they got wrong.
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  32.  @calzonelover3950  "This is how the far right is defined by most people. " And they are wrong as well.
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  33.  @calzonelover3950  Well those people are either nationalists or ethnonationalists. They are collectivists as they think, that their in-group should be given priority over this other group and individuals in general.... reasons may vary.
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  34.  @gerardpeterbrennan  "Lenin was not Socialist, Communism is not synonymous with Socialism." Lenin most certainly was a socialist and true, Communism is an ideology / theory and socialism is an economic system, so two different things.
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  35.  @reallymakesyouthink  "Once you support capitalism and massive wealth inequality you are right wing. Liberalism is centre right. It's free market with some social safety net." Nothing to do with Liberalism whatsoever, as Liberalism literally advocates for free market and laissez-faire economics and civil liberties under the rule of law, with special emphasis on property rights, individual autonomy, limited government, economic freedom, political freedom and freedom of speech.
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  36.  @WarrenPeaceOG  "free of ... rents." Pretty sure Adam Smith wasn't a communist, who thinks everything should be free.
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  37. That is not how Capitalism works though.
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  38.  @thepoliticalgardner  "Neoliberalism is outsourcing of government departments for corporations to run." And this is antithetical to Fascism, where the Government controlled every single business for the "common good", i.e. for the benefit of the State. As said by Mussolini himself; “The State exists for all the people, but is also above the people, and, if necessary, against the people. It is against them whenever they attempt to place their particular interests above the general interests of the Nation. ... It is the purpose of Fascism to unify the Nation through the sovereign State, the State which is above all and can be against all, because it represents the moral continuity of the Nation. Without State there is no Nation." - Speech on August 8th, 1925.
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  39. " without taxation of the rich, it is a system which makes the rich richer and poor poorer, " Wrong. When will you people learn that stealing money from others isn't going to make the world work? Rich people have enough money to leave your stupid country if you start stealing more from them. Also it is the government which is making rich richer and poor poorer by playing favorites etc.
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  40. "Richard, you don't mention elephant in the room, which is neoliberalism, which according to google is all about, letting the markets rule, deregulation privatization and austerity with less state influence in the economy. " And that is the only way to create a functional society which doesn't collapse under high inflation and deep national dept.
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  41. "and a believer in a fairer society I do favour a degree of progressive taxation / redistribution " Except that is the complete opposite of fair. Don't you think it is unfair that someone does most of the work in a group assignment and then everybody gets the same grade no matter how much effort they put in, or at all? Just as much unfair, it is to steal money from people who happened to provide more things to the society and get wealthy because of it. If we want to talk about fairness, then everybody pitching in the same amount would be the most fair, i.e. a flat tax rate, regardless how much wealth they would have or generate after that.
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  42. "Look at Farage a neo fascist ... He’s a neofascist by heart! " So Farage is a socialist now?
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  43. That would collapse most small private sector businesses and increase prices elsewhere to compensate. Also it would mean less workers since not every business can afford to pay that for simple jobs which are not worth that much. If you also want to apply that into the public sector, then it will most likely increase taxes. The word 'economy growth' doesn't mean what you think it means.
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  44. Jesus had nothing to do with secular politics in the first place.
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  45. "Aristocrats and fascists are cut from the same cloth" I highly doubt there are Aristocrats anymore, and even if there are, they all would be politicians. Fascists were cut from the same cloth as Marxists were, that is, socialism.
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  46. "Does liberalism uphold freedom of speech? No. Wrong speech is a criminal offence. " Actually it does, however Liberalism doesn't mean what you think it means. What countries have now, isn't exactly Liberalism.
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  47. In almost every European country, the government has been expanding, not shrinking... that ain't Neo-Liberalism.
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  48. " Fascism is not political, it's an economic model " Wrong actually. Fascism was a very specific political ideology and revolutionary socialist movement in Italy. It was Mussolini's ideology, and it used socialism as the basis for their economy, and their specific model for it was known as Corporatism.
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  49. "Fascism is simply an amalgamation of state and the private sector and has nothing to do with the leadership structure. " Technically the State takes over the private sector. There is no "amalgamation" of any kind, only subordination.
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  50. "A fascist economic model is collectivism where the state controls the means of production via a centrally planned economy (socialism) and it's modern day equivalent would be stakeholder capitalism. " Otherwise correct, but it wasn't even close to Stakeholder Capitalism or Capitalism of any kind. Under Corporatism ("corporativismo" in Italian), the society and the economy was organized, with state power at the head of a system of syndicates ("corporazione") representing each major industry. Mussolini's corporatist view stressed total state power over businesses as much as over individuals, via these governing industry bodies controlled by the Fascist party, in which businesses retained the responsibilities of property, but few if any of the freedoms.
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