Comments by "Historia, Magistra Vitae" (@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.) on "Mark Felton Productions" channel.

currantbun2166 "In practice, they claimed that Socia lism was part of the Jew ish plot..." Wrong. They had no problems with social ism. They claimed that both capitalism and marxism/bolshevism were "Jewish ploys" to take over Germany.
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currantbun2166 "to make them at least sound like they might appeal to nearly everyone. "_ They didn't want to appeal to everyone. They specifically wan ted to app eal to other soci alists, who were of the globalist mindset. “But we National Socialists wish precisely to attract all socialists, even the Communists; we wish to win them over from their international camp to the national one.” — Adolf Hit ler , Memoirs of a Confidant (1978), p. 26
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currantbun2166 "The Nazis were right-wing. " Wrong. They were far-left socialists.
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@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 "Public sector being replaced by private corporations... education, health, civil service, local councils ALL being "outsourced"." That is called Neo-liberalism, and a small step into the right and proper direction. Public sector, and government in general, should be as small as possible.
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"If hitler was left then hy did he invade the left Soviet Union?" He was left, and because of his "Lebensraum".
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@whiteknightcat "and its modern version is just as right wing today, " There is no "modern version". Nazism hasn't been a thing since the WW2 really. Sure there have been few "neo-nazi" movement after that, however they are more or less just ethonationalist movements and not actually advocating for "aryanism" or what the Nazis actually supported.
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@whiteknightcat "And YOU are lying by trying to combine economic and social models in your attempt to distance Nazism from your own beliefs. " Political spectrum only cares about the politics/policies and economics. Regarding my beliefs, they are the complete opposite of Nazism.
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@aResoluteProtector : Wrong. There is no difference. National Socialism was a socialist ideology.
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"Fascism is on its own political spectrum and would fall on the left for libertarians. The Nazis are on the far right of that fascism political spectrum and such thing as globalist socio fascism (Third Worldism) is on the far left of that same fascist political spectrum. " Wrong. Fascism is on the right side of Marxism, just like National Socialism is. Both are on the far-left, as they were socialist ideologies.
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currantbun2166 "They were as far from Soci alists as you can get."_ Wrong. They were a textbook example of socia lism. You cannot be an advocate for centra lized planning and strong gover nment controls without being a socialist. That's what made Hitler a socialist. He may have been to the right from the Bolsheviks, but he was still a soci alist leftist as he believed in strong central gover nment control. Hitler outright declared himself a socialist in Mein Kampf, just not the Marxist international or full Soviet type. He struggled with HOW to distin guish his socia lism from the rest of the Marxist crowd.
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currantbun2166 " (hence the smooth conti nuity of companies like Kr upp, Mer cedes, Bayer etc.)." All nationalized and either dire ctly owned by NS DAP or individually by its members, or the owners were mem bers of the NS DAP already.
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currantbun2166 "attacked and persecuted real Socia lists" There is no such thing as "real soci alist", not to me ntion, both Lenin and Stalin persecuted other socialists after the October Revolution.
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currantbun2166 "In practice, they claimed that Socia lism was part of the Jewish plot..." Wrong. They had no proble ms with social ism. They clai med that both capitalism and mar xism/bolsh evism were "Jewish ploys" to take over Germany.
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currantbun2166 "and never even did basic soci alist things like nationalising industry" Wrong. They did. They specifically nationalized most if not all the Germ an industry and later reorga nized all indu stries into corporations run by members of the Nazi Party. They called this nationalization as "Gleichschaltung". "To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner sh ould feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overri ding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn mone y and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.“ — Adolf Hitl er, Hitl er's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed.,
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currantbun2166 "to make them at least sound like they might appeal to nearly everyone. "_ They didn't want to appeal to everyone. They specifically wanted to appeal to other soci alists, who were of the globalist mindset. “But we Na tional Soc ialists wish precisely to attract all socialists, even the Communists; we wish to win them over from their international camp to the national one.” — Adolf Hit ler , Memo irs of a Confidant (1978), p. 26
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currantbun2166 "The rebra nding to 'National Soci alism' was deliberate false advertising -"_ Wrong. It wasn't. The name signi fied what they were advo cating for; socialism on a national level. “At the founding of this Movement we formed the decision that we would give expression to this idea of ours of the identity of the two conceptions: despite all warnings, on the basis of what we had come to believe, on the basis of the sincerity of our will, we christened it "National Socialist.' We said to ourselves that to be 'national' means above everything to act with a boundless and all-embracing love for the people and, if necessary, even to die for it. And similarly to be 'social' means so to build up the state and the community of the people that every individual acts in the interest of the community of the people and must be to such an extent convinced of the goodness, of the honorable straightforwardness of this community of the people as to be ready to die for it.” — Adolf Hit ler Munich - Speech of April 12, 1922
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@robertl4824 : "By early May 1933, the trade unions had been destroyed. " Wrong. They were nationalized and merged into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German Labor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, farmers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being. / / / / / / @robertl4824 : "For their part, businesses welcomed the Nazis' promises to suppress the left." The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Whatever the Nazi's promised, it never happened and this was also noted by the Time magazine. "Most cruel joke of all, however, has been played by Hitler & Co. on those German capitalists and small businessmen who once backed National Socialism as a means of saving Germany's bourgeois economic structure from radicalism. The Nazi credo that the individual belongs to the state also applies to business. Some businesses have been confiscated outright, on others what amounts to a capital tax has been levied. Profits have been strictly controlled. Some idea of the increasing Governmental control and interference in business could be deduced from the fact that 80% of all building and 50% of all industrial orders in Germany originated last year with the Government. Hard-pressed for foodstuffs as well as funds, the Nazi regime has taken over large estates and in many instances collectivized agriculture, a procedure fundamentally similar to Russian Communism." "Adolf Hitler: Man of the Year, 1938", Time; January 2, 1939. / / / / / / Socialism is an economic system where the collective (such as workers, guilds, the government etc.) either directly own or control the buildings and tools that make goods and services like farms and factories. This can be achieved through decentralized and direct worker-ownership, or through centralized state-ownership or control of the means of production. Nazis had the latter.
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@robertl4824 : "Instead of controlling the means of production or redistributing wealth to build a utopian society, the Nazis focused on safeguarding a social and racial hierarchy." They specifically controlled the means of production and believed in the socialization of the German people into a harmonious racial community free from exploitation. "Germany's economic policy is conducted exclusively in accordance with the interests of the German people. In this respect I am a fanatical socialist, one who has ever in mind the interests of all his people." Speech on the 21st Anniversary of the National Socialist Party (24 February 1941) / / / / / / @robertl4824 : "Yes, Mussolini had been a socialist early during the First World War, but broke with his comrades to support Italian expansionism, and then formed his fascist party to crush them." Wrong. Mussolini started out as a Marxist, and stopped being one after getting kicked from the Italian Socialist Party. However even according to his own words, he never stopped being a socialist. “Do not believe, even for a moment, that by stripping me of my membership card you do the same to my Socialist beliefs, nor that you would restrain me of continuing to work in favor of Socialism and of the Revolution.” — Benito Mussolini Speech at the Italian Socialist Party’s meeting in Milan at the People’s Theatre on Nov. 25, 1914. / / / / / / @robertl4824 : "When Hitler took over the party in 1921, he shredded the anti-capitalist parts of the old party's platform." Wrong. He didn't. Hitler specifically said in many of his speeches, that they are against capitalism and that they are proud socialists. "Socialism as the final concept of duty, the ethical duty of work, not just for oneself but also for one's fellow man's sake, and above all the principle: Common good before own good, a struggle against all parasitism and especially against easy and unearned income. And we were aware that in this fight we can rely on no one but our own people. We are convinced that socialism in the right sense will only be possible in nations and races that are Aryan, and there in the first place we hope for our own people and are convinced that socialism is inseparable from nationalism ... Since we are socialists, we must necessarily also be antisemites because we want to fight against the very opposite: materialism and mammonism... How can you not be an antisemite, being a socialist!" "Why We Are Anti-Semites," August 15, 1920 speech in Munich at the Hofbräuhaus. / / / / / / @robertl4824 : "The "socialism" in the name National Socialism was a strategically chosen misnomer designed to attract working class votes where possible, but they refused to take the bait." Still wrong. The name signified what they were advocating for; socialism on a national level. Hitler was very open about this, it wasn't a secret. “But we National Socialists wish precisely to attract all socialists, even the Communists; we wish to win them over from their international camp to the national one.” — Adolf Hitler , Memoirs of a Confidant (1978), p. 26 / / / / / / @robertl4824 : "The minority anti-capitalist strand of Nazism (Strasserism) on which van Onselen fastens was eliminated well before 1934, when Gregor Strasser and the Storm Trooper (SA) leader Ernst Roehm were murdered with over eighty others in the "Night of the Long Knives."" The Night of the Long Knives had nothing to do with capitalism nor socialism for that matter. It was about the internal power struggle between Hitler and Röhm. Regarding Strasser, what made him and Hitler have a falling out was not that Hitler was secretly a capitalism supporter. It was, as written in the text by Strasser titled "The socialists leave the NSDAP", that he did not approve of Hitlers imperial "Lebensraum" policies and considered National Socialism to be a non-expansionist movement.
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@robertl4824 : "Hitler was sent to spy on a tiny RIGHT-WING political party called the DAP, the German Workers Party. " DAP wasn't right wing in any way. One of the mistakes in the video. / / / / / / @robertl4824 : "He eventually became its leader changing its name to the National Socialist German Workers Party in an effort to win over those on the moderate left." (in other words: "socialist" was a ruse.)" Wrong. They changed the name because it signified what they were advocating for; socialism on a national level. Hitler was very open about this, it wasn't a secret. “But we National Socialists wish precisely to attract all socialists, even the Communists; we wish to win them over from their international camp to the national one.” — Adolf Hitler , Memoirs of a Confidant (1978), p. 26 / / / / / / @robertl4824 : "their “socialism” was at best a secondary element in their appeal." Wrong. It was socialism. Nazi Germany had a centralized and planned economy similar to the USSR under Stalin. Government controlled the means of production and also decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid. This is what we call a Command economy nowadays, part of the socialist economic system. / / / / / / @robertl4824 : " they saw it as an enemy of and an alternative to the political left." They saw it as an enemy to marxism and capitalism. National Socialism was specifically classified as a 3rd position movement because of it.
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@robertl4824 : "He was what he called a NATIONAL socialist - a far right wing version." Wrong. Socialism is on the far-left. Far-right would be Libertarianism or any ideology advocating for Classical Liberalism. / / / / / / @robertl4824 : "So no, the Nazi Party was not the “socialist” party of Germany" Their ideology was based on socialism, just not the Marxist adaptation. / / / / / / @robertl4824 : "Adolf Hitler was not a socialist. " Wrong. He was. In fact, he started out as a Marxist, and took part in two failed Communist revolutions in Bavaria during 1919. / / / / / / @robertl4824 : "negotiating with powerful businesses and the Junkers, industrialists and nobility, who would ultimately help Hitler gain total power over the German state." There was negotiation. NSDAP had demands, and businesses had to bent the knee or get replaced by NSDAP officials. This is what happened to Junkers for example. / / / / / / @robertl4824 : "Hitler dismisses even the idea of challenging the status of capitalism," Wrong. Hitler specifically despised capitalism and wanted Nazi Germany to be similar to Stalin's USSR.
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