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@JaxesGame "I don't think Webster's Dictionary lied to me "
It did. Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism, democracy, and marxist interpretation of socialism ("class warfare"). Instead, it advocated for class collaboration where the means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions / Fascist Corporatism), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism (Neo-Hegelianism).
Being an outgrowth of Sorelian Syndicalism, (which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism), its idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the State, or "embody" the State (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the State, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State."
As finalized by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile ("the Doctrine of Fascism"), Fascism came from the belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its "dictatorship of the proletariat" cannot be achieved, and that only the State can properly organize a socialist society. Therefore, Fascism cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
[01] "La Dottrina Del Fascismo / the Doctrine of Fascism", by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile
[02] "Che cosa è il Fascismo: Discorsi e polemiche / Origins and Doctrine of Fascism", by Giovanni Gentile
[03] "the Philosophy of Fascism", by Mario Palmieri
[04] "Fascism: An Informal Introduction to Its Theory and Practice", by Renzo De Felice
[05] "Mussolini's Intellectuals", by A. James Gregor
[06] "La Camera dei Fasci e delle Corporazioni", by Rabaglietti Giuseppe & Sergio Panunzio
[07] "Teoria generale dello Stato Fascista", by Sergio Panunzio
[08] "The Birth of Fascist Ideology" by
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@badluck5647 "That isn't socialism because the government didn't own or run the factory. "
They did run the factories, the DAF specifically, who had their officers in manager position for the very reason, that the production was done how the NSDAP told it to be. The idea was to let the state control and direct the economy from the top-down without itself owning the means of production. As Hitler himself said:
"A strong State will see that production is carried on in the national interests, and, if these interests are contravened, can proceed to expropriate the enterprise concerned and take over its administration. "
- Hitler and I, quotes from unspecified earlier dates per Otto Strasser, Boston, MA, Houghton Mifflin Company (1940)
"Germany's economic policy is conducted exclusively in accordance with the interests of the German people. In this respect I am a fanatical socialist, one who has ever in mind the interests of all his people."
- Speech on the 21st Anniversary of the National Socialist Party (24 February 1941)
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@MrSilz-jb4ik "even the original fascists actually had a hard time describing what it was. "
Actually they didn't. Funnily enough, Mussolini himself says the exact opposite in many of his speeches. Also Fascist theoreticians such as Alceste De Ambris & Filippo Tommaso Marinetti in the beginning, then later Sergio Panunzio, Alfredo Rocco, Edmondo Rossoni, Mario Palmieri and Giovanni Gentile, wrote extensively about Fascism.
"There is no other movement, be it spiritual or political, which has a more stable and determined doctrine than the doctrine of Fascism,” — “We have some truths and some well-defined realities before us and they are: the State, which must be above everything and everybody; the Government, which must know how to defend itself and how to defend the nation from all the attacks tending to disrupt the nation life; the collaboration of various classes, the respect of religion, the exaltation of all the national energies. The doctrine of Fascism is a doctrine of Life and not a doctrine of death..."
— Mussolini, on March 24, 1924
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@pqunit "Because they fundamentally believed in private ownership of the means of production."
Wrong. They didn't. Not only did they abolish private property rights via Reichstag fire degree during 1933, where the article 153 of the Weimar Constitution guaranteed private property, with expropriation only to occur within the due process of the law... but also Hit ler states in his table talks on September 3, 1942, that land was “national property, and in the end only given to the individual as a loan.” Hi tler only recognized private property insofar as it is used according to the principle “common benefit ahead of private benefit,” which means that if it is necessary in the common interest, the state has the right at all times to decide the way, the extent to which, and when private property is used, and the common interest is, of course, defined by the state.
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Fascism most certainly was Far-Left, politically and economically. It was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism/democracy, and marxism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism.
Fascism was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, Fascism comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. It cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
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@jjdelft3216 : You have no clue what you are talking about. Both Italian fas cis ts and German's national soc ialis ts were ha rd co re so cial ists. Both opposed liberal ca pital ism, but also int ernatio nal soc iali sm, hence the concept of a “third way,” their centralized economic policies obeyed collectivist and so ciali st principles, openly opposing cap itali sm and the free market, favoring nationalism and auta rchy.
Mussolini was always a so ciali st, but after getting kicked out from the PSI due to wanting Italy be part of the war effort, he moved more into Sore lian syndi calis m.
Adolf was always a so cia list also, in fact, during 1919 he was part of a m arx ist movement before getting arrested and writing his book.
Adolf constantly called himself a so cia list and their party was called National soc iali sm because that's what it was, soc ialis m but national.
"We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Soci alis ts. We are not internationalists. Our so ciali sm is national. We demand the fulfilment of the just claims of the productive classes by the state on the basis of race solidarity. To us state and race are one."
"Soc ial ism, is the science of dealing with the common weal. Co mmun ism is not So cialis m. Mar xis m is not So ciali sm. The Mar xia ns have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take So ciali sm away from the So cialis ts."
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@eedragonr Hi tler and his NS DAP were the State. NS DAP members were State employees. For example this is what happened to Junkers:
"When the Na zis came into power in 1933 they requested Junkers and his businesses aid in the German re-armament. When Junkers declined, the Na zis responded by demanding ownership of all patents and market shares from his remaining companies, under threat of imprisonment on the grounds of High Treason. In 1934 Junkers was placed under house arrest, and died at home in 1935 during negotiations to give up the remaining stock and interests in Junkers. Under Na zi control, his company produced some of the most successful German warplanes of the Second World War."
- Wiki
And even the Time magazine wrote about Na zis confiscating businesses back in the day:
"Most cruel joke of all, however, has been played by H itler & Co. on those German capitalists and small businessmen who once backed National Social ism as a means of saving Germany's bourgeois economic structure from radicalism. The Na zi credo that the individual belongs to the state also applies to business. Some businesses have been confiscated outright, on others what amounts to a capital tax has been levied. Profits have been strictly controlled. Some idea of the increasing Governmental control and interference in business could be deduced from the fact that 80% of all building and 50% of all industrial orders in Germany originated last year with the Government. Hard-pressed for foodstuffs as well as funds, the Nazi regime has taken over large estates and in many instances collectivized agriculture, a procedure fundamentally similar to Russian Comm unism."
- "Adolf Hit ler: Man of the Year, 1938", Time; January 2, 1939.
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@Incognito-jf1dr "the Nazis in 1933 promised industrialists that they would destroy socialism and trade Unions.if in power . "
That they would destroy Marxism / Communism, not socialism. They had no problems with socialism.
"To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. ... the basic principle of my Party's economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority... the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?... Today's bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.
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I will tolerate no opposition. We recognize only subordination – authority downwards and responsibility upwards. You just tell the German bourgeoisie that I shall be finished with them far quicker than I shall with Marxism... When once the conservative forces in Germany realize that only I and my party can win the German proletariat over to the State and that no parliamentary games can be played with Marxist parties, then Germany will be saved for all time, then we can found a German Peoples State.
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Over the last forty years the German bourgeoisie has been a lamentable failure; it has not given the German people a single leader; it will have to bow without gainsaying to the totality of my ideology... The bourgeoisie rules by intrigue, but it can have no foothold in my movement because we accept no Jews or Jewish accomplices into our Party."
- Hitler's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed.,
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@Crispr_CAS9 In both ideologies, it was the gover nme nt which decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid. In both ideologies, the govern ment controlled the means of production, distribution, exchange and told businesses / industry in general what they were allowed to do on the basis of "com mon good". That is, by definition, so cialis m i.e. collec tive owner ship or control of the means of production.
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@willtheoct "Fas cism is a police state, where few rule and subjugate others, and left unchecked, the psychopaths at the top conduct experiments on humans in larger and larger number as they get more and more bored."
While fasc ism certainly was totalitarian, it was way more than that. Fasc ism was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Mar xist soc ialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose wasn't the promotion of private interest, but the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
Ideologically, where the Fasc ists diverged from the Marx ists was in their rejection of the narrative of class warfare, which they saw as utterly repudiated by the behavior of "the proletariat" during World War I, where rather than join together in a mutual overthrow of capitalism, the working class of each country stayed in lockstep with national loyalties and slaughtered their supposed foreign class brethren. Both the Fasc ists and Marxi sts despised Liberalism, and saw it as having a perverse role in atomizing the individual from society. Mussolini's favored intellectual, Giovanni Gentile, freely acknowledged Fas cism' kinship with Mar xism through Sorellian Syndic alism.
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@onedroprule : Nothing false about it. Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism, democracy, and marxist interpretation of socialism ("class warfare"). Instead, it advocated for class collaboration where the means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions / Fascist Corporatism), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism (Neo-Hegelianism).
Being an outgrowth of Sorelian Syndicalism, (which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism), its idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the State, or "embody" the State (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the State, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State."
As finalized by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile ("the Doctrine of Fascism"), Fascism comes from the belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a socialist society. Therefore, Fascism cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
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@JessicaDainese "Fascism had their own philosophers you know. Once you study them, you can tell fascism when you see it. "
That is true, however if you think Trump and the Republicans have something to do with Fascism, you have never read any of their works (Gabriele D'Annunzio, Giovanni Gentile, Sergio Panunzio, Alfredo Rocco, Mario Palmieri, Alceste De Ambris, Filippo Tommaso Marinetti ... or even Georges Sorel). Since you are an Italian, do yourself a favor and read some Renzo De Felice or Emilio Gentile's work "Chi è fascista" before you talk about this subject again, since you have no clue what you are talking about.
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"to define fascism as being an ideology of the left ... Nothing could be further from the truth. "
You are wrong. It is a historical fact that Fascism was an ideology of the Left, Far-Left in fact. It was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism, democracy, and marxism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism.
Fascism was an outgrowth of Sorelian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, Fascism comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. It cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
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@matthewbanton7077 " but private property, the market economy and wealthy people all survived. "
Wrong. The only people who were wealthy, were the people in the Government. Private property wasn't a thing, and was made conditional. Individual ownership rights were understood to be strictly subordinate to collective discipline. It was not the individual ownership of property that concerned Fascists, but its subordination to collective control. Property was understood to perform social functions rather than to manifest individual rights. It was clear that the conception of property as a social function was broad enough to include socialization of the means of production, should that be required by the national interests as interpreted by the state.
Market economy wasn't a thing either, and was replaced with Corporatism, a system where sectors of the economy were divided into syndicates (which were nationalized Unions that then elected their own members into government as well as democratically run their workspaces. Each profession and field had their own Syndicate, which in turn, operated symbiotically with its composed members), whose activities and interactions were managed and coordinated by the government. The idea was to let the state control and direct the economy from the top-down without itself owning the means of production.
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@matthewbanton7077 "establish fascism and help to define the far-right through his rhetoric policy. "
Fascism had nothing to do with Right wing of any kind whatsoever. It was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism/democracy, and marxism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism.
Fascism was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, Fascism comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. It cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
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@charlesmiv3842 Here are few;
“Some still ask of us: what do you want? We answer with three words that summon up our entire program. Here they are…Italy, Republic, Socialization... Socialization is no other than the implantation of Italian Socialism…”
— Benito Mussolini, Speech given by Mussolini to a group of Milanese Fascist veterans (October 14, 1944)
“Do not believe, even for a moment, that by stripping me of my membership card you do the same to my Socialist beliefs, nor that you would restrain me of continuing to work in favor of Socialism and of the Revolution.”
— Benito Mussolini, Speech at the Italian Socialist Party’s meeting in Milan at the People’s Theatre on Nov. 25, 1914.
“You cannot get rid of me because I am and always will be a socialist. You hate me because you still love me.”
— Benito Mussolini, A Biography (1983), As quoted by Mussolini after he was expelled from the Italian Socialist Party in 1914.
"For this I have been and am a socialist. The accusation of inconsistency has no foundation. My conduct has always been straight in the sense of looking at the substance of things and not to the form. I adapted socialisticamente to reality. As the evolution of society belied many of the prophecies of Marx, the true socialism folded from possible to probable. The only feasible socialism socialisticamente is corporatism, confluence, balance and justice interests compared to the collective interest. "
— Benito Mussolini, As quoted in “Soliloquy for ‘freedom’ Trimellone island”, one of the last interviews of Mussolini, March 20, 1945
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@ewww21 Also regarding the definition of Fascism, it was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism, democracy, and marxist interpretation of socialism ("class warfare"). Instead, it advocated for class collaboration where the means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions / Fascist Corporatism), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism (Neo-Hegelianism).
Being an outgrowth of Sorelian Syndicalism, (which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism), its idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the State, or "embody" the State (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the State, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State."
As finalized by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile ("the Doctrine of Fascism"), Fascism came from the belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its "dictatorship of the proletariat" cannot be achieved, and that only the State can properly organize a socialist society. Therefore, Fascism cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
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@lalalalallalala "from Hi tler on down, stru ggled with the pol tical implications of having sociali sm in the pa rty name. "
They didn't struggle at all. If anything, Hit ler would have wan ted the pa rty name to be even more social ist, i.e. "Soc ial Revol uti onary Party".
"At the founding of this Movement we formed the decision that we would give expression to this idea of ours of the identity of the two conceptions: despite all warnings, on the basis of what we had come to believe, on the basis of the sinc erity of our will, we chri stened it "Nati onal Soci alist.' We said to ourselves that to be 'na tional' means above everything to act with a bo undless and all-embr acing love for the people and, if necessary, even to die for it. And similarly to be 'soc ial' means so to build up the state and the community of the people that every individual acts in the interest of the com munity of the people and must be to such an extent convin ced of the goodness, of the honorable straightforwardness of this com munity of the people as to be ready to die for it.“
— Ad olf Hi tler , Munich - Spe ech of April 12, 1922
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@NBrioDaZueraRules "nati onal socia lism was capit alist and a nti-soc ialist"
Wrong. Hit ler was a devout soci alist who detested capit alism since according to him, it was a "jewish ploy".
Nobody in the N azi party were against social ism. None.
"Socia lism as the final concept of duty, the ethical duty of work, not just for oneself but also for one's fellow man's sake, and above all the principle: Common good before own good, a struggle against all para sitism and especially against easy and unearned income. And we were aware that in this fight we can rely on no one but our own people. We are convinced that socia lism in the right sense will only be possible in nations and races that are Ary an, and there in the first place we hope for our own people and are convinced that social ism is inseparable from nation alism. ... Since we are soci alists, we must necessarily also be antisemites because we want to fight against the very opposite: materialism and mammonism... How can you not be an an tise mite, being a socia list!"
"Why We Are An ti-Se mit es," August 15, 1920 speech in Munich at the Hofbräuhaus.
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@TheGalaxyWings "Many of the companies that were nationalized by the social democrats during the weimar republic were later privatized by the na zis. "
Not really. Privatization was never a thing in Na zi Germany. the Na zis issued quotas for industries and farms and later reorganized all industries into corporations run by members of the Na zi Party. Hitler advocated for nationalization since the beginning, and they later referred to this as "Gleichschaltung".
"To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialis ation, or what is known here as soci alism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.“
— Ad olf Hit ler, Hit ler's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed.
Even 'the Times' magazine mentioned this:
"Most cruel joke of all, however, has been played by Hitler & Co. on those German capita lists and small businessmen who once backed National Socialism as a means of saving Germany's bourgeois economic structure from radicalism. The Na zi credo that the individual belongs to the state also applies to business. Some businesses have been confiscated outright, on others what amounts to a capital tax has been levied. Profits have been strictly controlled. Some idea of the increasing Governmental control and interference in business could be deduced from the fact that 80% of all building and 50% of all industrial orders in Germany originated last year with the Government. Hard-pressed for foodstuffs as well as funds, the N azi regime has taken over large estates and in many instances collectivized agriculture, a procedure fundamentally similar to Russian Comm unism." "
"Ad olf Hit ler: Man of the Year, 1938", Time; January 2, 1939.
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@maxfan1591 Wrong. They were far-left socialists.
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong.
Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing.
Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state.
They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all Ger man workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
Under the newly created Ger man Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage.
It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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@maxfan1591 Wrong. They were far-left socialists.
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong.
Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hi tler tho ught the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing.
Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were aboli shed with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state.
They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every econ omic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage.
It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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@maxfan1591 Wrong. They were far-left socialists.
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong.
Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing.
Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private pr operty rights were aboli shed with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every Ger man is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state.
They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage.
It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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@maxfan1591 Wrong. They were far-left socialists.
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further expla nation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wro ng.
Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finan ce cap ital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing.
Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state.
They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage.
It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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@maxfan1591 Wrong. They were far-left socialists.
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong.
Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing.
Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private prop erty rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state.
They natio nalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordin ated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by emp loyers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage.
It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marx ist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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@maxfan1591 Wrong. They were far-left socialists.
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marx ism or Nazi sm, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capit alists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Soci alist Society.
They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the sta tus quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wr ong.
Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with interna tional finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing.
Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state.
They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage.
It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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@maxfan1591 Wrong. They were far-left socialists.
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Naz ism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capi talists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Soc ialist Society.
They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong.
Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing.
Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire de cree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Art icle 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviou sly, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state.
They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every ec onomic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emp hasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage.
It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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@maxfan1591 Wrong. They were far-left socialists.
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong.
Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing.
Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state.
They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage.
It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Socialist party was an alternative, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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@maxfan1591 Wrong. They were far-left socialists.
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong.
Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing.
Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state.
They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage.
It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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@maxfan1591 Wrong. They were far-left socialists.
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
Nazis believed, just like the Fasci sts, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thou ght Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong.
Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoo ts of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That soc ialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing.
Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Indus try was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state.
They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage.
It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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@maxfan1591 Wrong. They were far-left socialists.
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong.
Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing.
Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Nazis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all property always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state.
They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Nazis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage.
It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hitler's National Socialist party was an alternative, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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@maxfan1591 Wrong. They were far-left socialists.
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alter native of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marx ists. Capit alists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the Sta te can properly organize a Social ist Society.
They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong.
Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing.
Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state.
They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage.
It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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@maxfan1591 Wrong. They were far-left socialists.
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong.
Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their soci alism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nation alist. That social ism had to become nation alist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing.
Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state.
They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage.
It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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@maxfan1591 Wrong. They were far-left socialists.
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong.
Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing.
Owning property was made conditional and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Nazis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all property always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state.
They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Nazis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage.
It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hitler's National Socialist party was an alternative, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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@maxfan1591 Wrong. They were far-left socialists.
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Rep ublic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong.
Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing.
Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guara nteed property. Obvi ously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divid ed into 13 sec tors and placed under the control of the state.
They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage.
It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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@maxfan1591 Wrong. They were far-left socialists.
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong.
Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hit ler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Mar xism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mei n K ampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nation alist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing.
Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state.
They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Fo od Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage.
It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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@maxfan1591 Wrong. They were far-left socialists.
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong.
Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing.
Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state.
They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or Ger man La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every econ omic sector belonged to the DAF. For exa mple, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national econo mic goals above perso nal well-being.
Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage.
It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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@maxfan1591 Wrong. They were far-left socialists.
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong.
Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socia lism had to bec ome nation alist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing.
Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state.
They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage.
It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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@maxfan1591 Wrong. They were far-left socialists.
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
They were politically, socially and economically anti-conservative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong.
Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing.
Owning property was made conditional and private property rights were abolished with the Reichstag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Nazis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dwelling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all property always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state.
They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Nazis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage.
It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hitler's National Socialist party was an alternative, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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@maxfan1591 Wrong. They were far-left socialists.
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
They were politically, socially and economically anti-conservative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Monarchy and Kaiser. They were wrong.
Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is socialist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing.
Owning property was made conditional and private property rights were abolished with the Reichstag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Nazis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dwelling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all property always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state.
They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Nazis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage.
It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hitler's National Socialist party was an alternative, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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@maxfan1591 Wrong. They were far-left socialists.
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
They were politically, socially and economically anti-conservative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Monarchy and Kaiser. They were wrong.
Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is socialist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Jews) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing.
Owning property was made conditional and private property rights were abolished with the Reichstag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Nazis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dwelling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all property always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state.
They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German Labor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, farmers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Nazis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage.
It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hitler's National Socialist party was an alternative, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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@maxfan1591 Wrong. They were far-left socialists.
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the sta tus quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong.
Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with inter national finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the M AIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing.
Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every Ger man is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obvio usly, they did not confis cate everyone's prop erty, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state.
They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage.
It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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@maxfan1591 Wrong. They were far-left socialists.
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong.
Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing.
Owning property was made conditional and private property rights were abolished with the Reichstag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Nazis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dwelling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all property always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state.
They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Nazis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage.
It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hitler's National Socialist party was an alternative, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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@maxfan1591 Wrong. They were far-left socialists.
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong.
Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing.
Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state.
They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Nazis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage.
It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hitler's National Socialist party was an alternative, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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@robertl4824 "For their part, businesses welcomed the Nazis' promises to suppress the left. "
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Whatever the Nazi's promised, it never happened and this was also noted by the Time magazine.
"Most cruel joke of all, however, has been played by Hitler & Co. on those German capitalists and small businessmen who once backed National Socialism as a means of saving Germany's bourgeois economic structure from radicalism. The Nazi credo that the individual belongs to the state also applies to business. Some businesses have been confiscated outright, on others what amounts to a capital tax has been levied. Profits have been strictly controlled. Some idea of the increasing Governmental control and interference in business could be deduced from the fact that 80% of all building and 50% of all industrial orders in Germany originated last year with the Government. Hard-pressed for foodstuffs as well as funds, the Nazi regime has taken over large estates and in many instances collectivized agriculture, a procedure fundamentally similar to Russian Communism."
"Adolf Hitler: Man of the Year, 1938", Time; January 2, 1939.
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@robertl4824 "When Hitler took over the party in 1921, he shredded the anti-capitalist parts of the old party's platform."
Wrong. He didn't. Hitler specifically said in many of his speeches, that they are against capitalism and that they are proud socialists.
"Socialism as the final concept of duty, the ethical duty of work, not just for oneself but also for one's fellow man's sake, and above all the principle: Common good before own good, a struggle against all parasitism and especially against easy and unearned income. And we were aware that in this fight we can rely on no one but our own people. We are convinced that socialism in the right sense will only be possible in nations and races that are Aryan, and there in the first place we hope for our own people and are convinced that socialism is inseparable from nationalism ... Since we are socialists, we must necessarily also be antisemites because we want to fight against the very opposite: materialism and mammonism... How can you not be an antisemite, being a socialist!"
"Why We Are Anti-Semites," August 15, 1920 speech in Munich at the Hofbräuhaus.
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@robertl4824 : "By early May 1933, the trade unions had been destroyed. "
Wrong. They were nationalized and merged into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German Labor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, farmers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
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@robertl4824 : "For their part, businesses welcomed the Nazis' promises to suppress the left."
The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Whatever the Nazi's promised, it never happened and this was also noted by the Time magazine.
"Most cruel joke of all, however, has been played by Hitler & Co. on those German capitalists and small businessmen who once backed National Socialism as a means of saving Germany's bourgeois economic structure from radicalism. The Nazi credo that the individual belongs to the state also applies to business. Some businesses have been confiscated outright, on others what amounts to a capital tax has been levied. Profits have been strictly controlled. Some idea of the increasing Governmental control and interference in business could be deduced from the fact that 80% of all building and 50% of all industrial orders in Germany originated last year with the Government. Hard-pressed for foodstuffs as well as funds, the Nazi regime has taken over large estates and in many instances collectivized agriculture, a procedure fundamentally similar to Russian Communism."
"Adolf Hitler: Man of the Year, 1938", Time; January 2, 1939.
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Socialism is an economic system where the collective (such as workers, guilds, the government etc.) either directly own or control the buildings and tools that make goods and services like farms and factories. This can be achieved through decentralized and direct worker-ownership, or through centralized state-ownership or control of the means of production. Nazis had the latter.
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@robertl4824 : "Instead of controlling the means of production or redistributing wealth to build a utopian society, the Nazis focused on safeguarding a social and racial hierarchy."
They specifically controlled the means of production and believed in the socialization of the German people into a harmonious racial community free from exploitation.
"Germany's economic policy is conducted exclusively in accordance with the interests of the German people. In this respect I am a fanatical socialist, one who has ever in mind the interests of all his people."
Speech on the 21st Anniversary of the National Socialist Party (24 February 1941)
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@robertl4824 : "Yes, Mussolini had been a socialist early during the First World War, but broke with his comrades to support Italian expansionism, and then formed his fascist party to crush them."
Wrong. Mussolini started out as a Marxist, and stopped being one after getting kicked from the Italian Socialist Party. However even according to his own words, he never stopped being a socialist.
“Do not believe, even for a moment, that by stripping me of my membership card you do the same to my Socialist beliefs, nor that you would restrain me of continuing to work in favor of Socialism and of the Revolution.”
— Benito Mussolini Speech at the Italian Socialist Party’s meeting in Milan at the People’s Theatre on Nov. 25, 1914.
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@robertl4824 : "When Hitler took over the party in 1921, he shredded the anti-capitalist parts of the old party's platform."
Wrong. He didn't. Hitler specifically said in many of his speeches, that they are against capitalism and that they are proud socialists.
"Socialism as the final concept of duty, the ethical duty of work, not just for oneself but also for one's fellow man's sake, and above all the principle: Common good before own good, a struggle against all parasitism and especially against easy and unearned income. And we were aware that in this fight we can rely on no one but our own people. We are convinced that socialism in the right sense will only be possible in nations and races that are Aryan, and there in the first place we hope for our own people and are convinced that socialism is inseparable from nationalism ... Since we are socialists, we must necessarily also be antisemites because we want to fight against the very opposite: materialism and mammonism... How can you not be an antisemite, being a socialist!"
"Why We Are Anti-Semites," August 15, 1920 speech in Munich at the Hofbräuhaus.
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@robertl4824 : "The "socialism" in the name National Socialism was a strategically chosen misnomer designed to attract working class votes where possible, but they refused to take the bait."
Still wrong. The name signified what they were advocating for; socialism on a national level. Hitler was very open about this, it wasn't a secret.
“But we National Socialists wish precisely to attract all socialists, even the Communists; we wish to win them over from their international camp to the national one.”
— Adolf Hitler , Memoirs of a Confidant (1978), p. 26
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@robertl4824 : "The minority anti-capitalist strand of Nazism (Strasserism) on which van Onselen fastens was eliminated well before 1934, when Gregor Strasser and the Storm Trooper (SA) leader Ernst Roehm were murdered with over eighty others in the "Night of the Long Knives.""
The Night of the Long Knives had nothing to do with capitalism nor socialism for that matter. It was about the internal power struggle between Hitler and Röhm. Regarding Strasser, what made him and Hitler have a falling out was not that Hitler was secretly a capitalism supporter. It was, as written in the text by Strasser titled "The socialists leave the NSDAP", that he did not approve of Hitlers imperial "Lebensraum" policies and considered National Socialism to be a non-expansionist movement.
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@robertl4824 : "Hitler was sent to spy on a tiny RIGHT-WING political party called the DAP, the German Workers Party. "
DAP wasn't right wing in any way. One of the mistakes in the video.
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@robertl4824 : "He eventually became its leader changing its name to the National Socialist German Workers Party in an effort to win over those on the moderate left." (in other words: "socialist" was a ruse.)"
Wrong. They changed the name because it signified what they were advocating for; socialism on a national level. Hitler was very open about this, it wasn't a secret.
“But we National Socialists wish precisely to attract all socialists, even the Communists; we wish to win them over from their international camp to the national one.”
— Adolf Hitler , Memoirs of a Confidant (1978), p. 26
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@robertl4824 : "their “socialism” was at best a secondary element in their appeal."
Wrong. It was socialism. Nazi Germany had a centralized and planned economy similar to the USSR under Stalin. Government controlled the means of production and also decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid. This is what we call a Command economy nowadays, part of the socialist economic system.
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@robertl4824 : " they saw it as an enemy of and an alternative to the political left."
They saw it as an enemy to marxism and capitalism. National Socialism was specifically classified as a 3rd position movement because of it.
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@Fluxwux "Fascism is to its core a right wing ideology,"
Wrong. Again, Fascism had absolutely nothing to do with Right wing of any kind whatsoever. Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism, democracy, and marxist interpretation of socialism ("class warfare"). Instead, it advocated for class collaboration where the means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions / Fascist Corporatism), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism (Neo-Hegelianism).
Being an outgrowth of Sorelian Syndicalism, (which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism), its idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the State, or "embody" the State (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the State, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State."
As finalized by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile ("the Doctrine of Fascism"), Fascism came from the belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its "dictatorship of the proletariat" cannot be achieved, and that only the State can properly organize a socialist society. Therefore, Fascism cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
[01] "La Dottrina Del Fascismo / the Doctrine of Fascism", by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile
[02] "Che cosa è il Fascismo: Discorsi e polemiche / Origins and Doctrine of Fascism", by Giovanni Gentile
[03] "the Philosophy of Fascism", by Mario Palmieri
[04] "Fascism: An Informal Introduction to Its Theory and Practice", by Renzo De Felice
[05] "Mussolini's Intellectuals", by A. James Gregor
[06] "La Camera dei Fasci e delle Corporazioni", by Rabaglietti Giuseppe & Sergio Panunzio
[07] "Teoria generale dello Stato Fascista", by Sergio Panunzio
[08] "The Birth of Fascist Ideology" by Zeev Sternhell
[09] Any work from Emilio Gentile
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@Fluxwux "and anti union/workers rights "
Every single socialist one-party dictatorship were against these things. In fact, Hitler and Mussolini were simply imitating Lenin, who had earlier closed down all independent labor associations, factory committees and worker cooperatives, banned strikes, walkouts, and lockouts. Lenin even forced workers to work a slavish 80-hour week. After the Bolsheviks banned all labor unions, one unionist “described the unions as ‘living corpses.’” Any Russian worker who participated in general strikes was arrested, imprisoned or shot. Under Lenin’s regime, workers had no real representation or bargaining rights and were treated like industrial serfs who were chained to their factories. Although Hitler and Mussolini followed Lenin’s nationalizing craze, their treatment of workers did not mimic their Russian counterparts.
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@blackwatchgroup9194 : Because for some reason they hated individu alism, for them it was a mark of selfishness. They wanted the Sta te to be and to provide everything a person needed in their life. They were hard core statists.
"Anti-individualistic, the Fas cist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State, which stands for the conscience and the universal, will of man as a historic entity. It is opposed to classical liber alism which arose as a reaction to absolutism and exhausted its historical function when the State became the expression of the conscience and will of the people. Liber alism denied the State in the name of the individual; Fasc ism reasserts The rights of the State as expressing the real essence of the individual. And if liberty is to he the attribute of living men and not of abstract dummies invented by individualistic liberalism, then Fas cism stands for liberty, and for the only liberty worth having, the liberty of the State and of the individual within the State. The Fas cist conception of the State is all embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value. Thus understood, Fasc ism, is totalit arian, and the Fas cist State - a synthesis and a unit inclusive of all values - interprets, develops, and potentates the whole life of a people."
- the Doctrine of Fas cism
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@joca6282 "FAS CISTS ARE NOT SOCIA LISTS."
Wrong. Fasci sm was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndic alism, which itself was an outgrowth from Mar xist soc ialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose wasn't the promotion of private interest, but the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
Ideologically, where the Fasc ists diverged from the Mar xists was in their rejection of the narrative of class warfare, which they saw as utterly repudiated by the behavior of "the proletariat" during World War I, where rather than join together in a mutual overthrow of capitalism, the working class of each country stayed in lockstep with national loyalties and slaughtered their supposed foreign class brethren. Both the Fasc ists and Marx ists despised Libera lism, and saw it as having a perverse role in atomizing the individual from society. Mussolini's favored intellectual, Giovanni Gentile, freely acknowledged Fasci sm' kinship with Mar xism through Sorellian Syndicalism.
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@joca6282 "Fascis m does not have any SOC IALISM one bit."
Wrong. They had a centralized government, centralized and planned economy, government controlling the means of production and also deciding what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid. Fasc ism opposed capitalism, but also international soci alism, hence the concept of a “third way,” their centralized economic policies obeyed collectivist and soci alist principles, openly opposing capitalism and the free market, favoring nationalism and autarchy.
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@anacc3257 : Incorrect. M usso lini started out as a m arx ist and after getting ki ck ed out from the Italian PSI (a m ar xi st party), he denounced ma rxi sm but he always stayed as a so cia list. Fa sci sm was a form of (st ate) so cia lis m and Mus soli ni was stri ctly ag ainst ca pitali sm. Fas cis m opposed lib eral cap ital ism, but also int erna tion al soc iali sm, hence the concept of a “third way,” their cent raliz ed eco no mic poli cies obeyed co llec tiv ist and so cial ist princ iples, ope nly oppo sing cap ital ism and the fr ee m ark et, fav oring nati onali sm and autarchy.
"Today we can affirm that the ca pitali stic method of production is out of date. So is the doctrine of la issez-fai re, the theoretical basis of ca pita lism… Today we are taking a new and decisive step in the path of revolution. A revolution, in order to be great, must be a soci al revolution.“
— Be nito Mu sso lini, Speech on November 14, 1933
"You cannot get rid of me because I am and always will be a so cial ist. You hate me because you still love me.“
— Be nito Muss olini, A Biography (1983) p. 8. As quoted by Muss olini after he was expelled from the Italian So cial ist Party in 1914. 1910s
"Do not believe, even for a moment, that by stripping me of my membership card you do the same to my So cial ist beliefs, nor that you would rest rain me of continuing to work in favor of So ciali sm and of the Re volution.“
— Ben ito Muss olini, Speech at the Italian So cial ist Party’s meeting in Milan at the People’s Theatre on Nov. 25, 1914.
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@jordrider1917 : Muss olini never denounced so cia lis m though. After he was kicked out of the Italian PSI, which was a ma rxi st party, he denounced ma rxis m. Even according to Muss olini himself, he would always remain a so cia list. Mus soli ni also didn't come up with the fa sci st ideology... that was a so ci ali st philosopher Giov anni Gen tile.
"You cannot get rid of me because I am and always will be a so ci ali st. You hate me because you still love me.“
— Ben ito Muss olini, Denis Mack Smith, Muss olini: A Biography (1983) p. 8. As quoted by Mus solini after he was expelled from the Italian So ci ali st Party in 1914. 1910s
"Do not believe, even for a moment, that by stripping me of my membership card you do the same to my So ci ali st beliefs, nor that you would restrain me of continuing to work in favor of So ci ali sm and of the R evolu tion.“
— Be nito Muss olini, Speech at the Italian So ci al ist Party’s meeting in Milan at the People’s Theatre on Nov. 25, 1914.
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@eedragonr "What industry ever have the Na zis nationalized and confiscated?"
Every major industry. Junkers for example, or Volkswagen or IG Far ben, or Krupp or Hugo Boss or Porsche. Every single one of the major industries were either owned by NS DAP directly, or its individual members. Either businesses bent the knee to the NS DAP or the owners were replaced by Hit ler's own goons. Of course the NSDAP got lucky in the sense, that most of the CEO's were already part of the NS DAP movement.
"To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialis ation, or what is known here as socia lism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.“
— Adolf Hit ler, Hitl er's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed.
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@sH-ed5yf "Nazi germany left the entire heavy industry in private hands."
I.G. Farben, Junkers, Porsche etc ... every single heavy industry was either owned by NSDAP members or the party itself directly. Everything was controlled by the party.
"The party is all-embracing. It rules our lives in all their breadth and depth... There will be no license, no free space, in which the individual belongs to himself. This is Socialism... Let them then own land or factories as much as they please. The decisive factor is that the State, through the party, is supreme over them, regardless whether they are owners or workers."
- Hitler Speaks (1940)
"Germany's economic policy is conducted exclusively in accordance with the interests of the German people. In this respect I am a fanatical socialist, one who has ever in mind the interests of all his people."
- Speech on the 21st Anniversary of the National Socialist Party (24 February 1941)
"A strong State will see that production is carried on in the national interests, and, if these interests are contravened, can proceed to expropriate the enterprise concerned and take over its administration."
- Hitler and I, quotes from unspecified earlier dates per Otto Strasser, Boston, MA, Houghton Mifflin Company (1940)
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@peeledonion991 "There was still a powerful capitalist class which owned and profited from cooperations controlled by the state."
That is not what happened under Fascism, as explained by Mussolini himself.
"The Fascist State directs and controls the entrepreneurs, whether it be in our fisheries or in our heavy industry in the Val d'Aosta. There the State actually owns the mines and carries on transport, for the railways are state property. So are many of the factories… We term it state intervention… If anything fails to work properly, the State intervenes. The capitalists will go on doing what they are told, down to the very end. They have no option and cannot put up any fight. Capital is not God; it is only a means to an end.”
— Benito Mussolini, As quoted in Talks with Mussolini, Emil Ludwig, Boston, MA, Little, Brown and Company (1933)
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@26:55 , the road which Joseph Stiglitz is paving with his Keynesian economics, is certainly leading closer to Fascism. After all, Fascism was all about the centralization State power and economy, trying to find unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State. Fascism was all about the big "daddy" government watching over you and regulating as much as possible in the name of the well being of the Nation. Meanwhile Neoliberalism, which Stiglitz seems to be afraid, was and is the complete opposite of Fascism... which was a socialist 3rd position ideology after all.
"Fascism, which is the very antithesis of Individualism, stands as the nemesis of all economic doctrines and all economic practice of both the capitalistic and the communistic systems. Fascism holds that:
01. The economic life of man cannot be abstracted and separated from the whole of his spiritual life. In the words of Mussolini: “The economic man does not exist. Man is integral; he is political, economic, religious, saint and warrior at the same time.”
02. The economic life of man is influenced, if not actually determined, by idealistic factors.
03. True economic progress can derive only from the concerted effort of individuals who know how to sacrifice their personal egoism and ambitions for the good of the whole.
04. Economic initiatives cannot be left to the arbitrary decisions of private, individual interests.
05. Open competition, if not wisely directed and restricted, actually destroys wealth instead of creating it.
06. The wealth of a community is something intangible which cannot be identified with the sum of riches of single individuals.
07. The proper function of the State in the Fascist system is that of supervising, regulating and arbitrating the relationships of capital and labor, employers and employees, individuals and associations, private interests and national interests.
08. Class war is avoidable and must be avoided. Class war is deleterious to the orderly and fruitful life of the nation therefore it has no place in the Fascist State.
09. More important than the production of wealth is its right distribution, distribution which must benefit in the best possible way all the classes of the nation, hence, the nation itself.
10. Private wealth belongs not only to the individual, but in a symbolic sense, to the State as well.
These fundamental tenets of Fascist economy derive in turn from those basic conceptions of the Fascist doctrine of the State which we have expounded in the chapter of the “Fascist State.” We have said there, in fact, that the Fascist State is a Sovereign State. This means that there cannot be any single economic interests which are above the general economic interests of the State, no individual, economic initiatives which do not fall under the supervision and regulation of the State, no relationships of the various classes of the nations which are not the concern of the State.
We see thus the Fascist State resolutely enter the economic field to dictate what shall be from now on the relationship between the capital and labor, employer and employees, landowner and farmhand, industrialist and worker."
— The Philsophy of Fascism, Mario Palmieri, 1936
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@nautivic5679 : "but to this we say that the state, as one that expressly sought to unify the proletariat and bourgeoisie through the nation, held no interest beyond the preservation of existing capitalist relations, which can only exist through the exploitation of the proletariat."
Mussolini and also Hitl er both, were simply imitating Lenin, who had earlier closed down all independent labor associations, factory committees and worker cooperatives, banned strikes, walkouts, and lockouts. Lenin even forced workers to work a slavish 80-hour week. After the Bolsheviks banned all labor unions, one unionist “described the unions as ‘living corpses.’” Any Russian worker who participated in general strikes was arrested, impri soned or shot. Under Len n’s regime, workers had no real representation or bargaining rights and were treated like industrial serfs who were chained to their factories. Although Hit ler and Mu ssolini followed Len in’s nationalizing craze, their treatment of workers did not mimic their Russian counterparts.
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@franko2886 : Nope. I'm citing historical facts. Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism, democracy, and marxism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism.
Fascism was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, Fascism comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. It cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
[01] "La Dottrina Del Fascismo / the Doctrine of Fascism", by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile
[02] "Che cosa è il Fascismo: Discorsi e polemiche / Origins and Doctrine of Fascism", by Giovanni Gentile
[03] "the Philosophy of Fascism", by Mario Palmieri
[04] "Fascism: An Informal Introduction to Its Theory and Practice", by Renzo De Felice
[05] "Mussolini's Intellectuals", by A. James Gregor
[06] "La Camera dei Fasci e delle Corporazioni", by Rabaglietti Giuseppe & Sergio Panunzio
[07] "Teoria generale dello Stato Fascista", by Sergio Panunzio
[08] Any work from Emilio Gentile
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@calzonelover3950 "What do you think is the better definition of far right?"
If the Far-Left is characterized by socialist ideologies and collectivism in general, then logic dictates, that the Far-Right in return is characterized by capitalist ideologies and individualism in general. Therefore, the epitome of Far-Right is Liberalism as it was put forth by John Locke, i.e. free market and laissez-faire economics and civil liberties under the rule of law, with special emphasis on property rights, individual autonomy, limited government, economic freedom, political freedom and freedom of speech. From there, it is logical to conclude that the Extreme Right would be Anarcho-Capitalism.
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@rohanharridge5579 "If the Nazis were socialist they wouldn't have violently suppressed organised labour they did."
Wrong. Every single socialist regime suppressed independent unions, including the Bolsheviks. In fact, Hitler was simply imitating Lenin, who had earlier closed down all independent labor associations, factory committees and worker cooperatives, banned strikes, walkouts, and lockouts. Lenin even forced workers to work a slavish 80-hour week. After the Bolsheviks banned all labor unions, one unionist “described the unions as ‘living corpses.’” Any Russian worker who participated in general strikes was arrested, imprisoned or shot. Under Lenin’s regime, workers had no real representation or bargaining rights and were treated like industrial serfs who were chained to their factories. Although Hitler followed Lenin’s nationalizing craze, his treatment of workers did not mimic their Russian counterparts.
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@akastewart "Additionally, if you believe Liberalism is far-right, where do you believe Fascism sits relative to that?"
Fascism was adjacent to Marxism, on its right side, since it was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism, democracy, and marxism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism.
Fascism was an outgrowth of Sorelian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, Fascism comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. It cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
[01] "La Dottrina Del Fascismo / the Doctrine of Fascism", by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile
[02] "Che cosa è il Fascismo: Discorsi e polemiche / Origins and Doctrine of Fascism", by Giovanni Gentile
[03] "the Philosophy of Fascism", by Mario Palmieri
[04] "Fascism: An Informal Introduction to Its Theory and Practice", by Renzo De Felice
[05] "Mussolini's Intellectuals", by A. James Gregor
[06] "La Camera dei Fasci e delle Corporazioni", by Rabaglietti Giuseppe & Sergio Panunzio
[07] "Teoria generale dello Stato Fascista", by Sergio Panunzio
[08] Any work from Emilio Gentile
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Minimmalmythicist "Fascism is also certainly not left wing in any other way, "
Wrong. Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism/democracy, and marxism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism.
Fascism was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, Fascism comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. It cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
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@fburton8 "classical fascism is a right-wing phenomenon ... but equating them with fascism overlooks the distinct historical and ideological foundations of fascism as a far-right ideology."
Wrong. Fascism had nothing to do with Right wing of any kind whatsoever. Again, Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism/democracy, and marxism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism.
Fascism was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, Fascism comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. It cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
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@cascadianapplications7124 "You're going to have to prove that the NS DAP was actu ally soci ali st "
They had a cen tralize d gove rnm ent, centr alized eco nomy (planned) similar to US SR, the gove rnment control led the means of prod uction and busin esses in general and decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what met hods, and to whom it was to be distrib uted, as well as what pri ces would be charged and what wages would be paid.
"To put it quite clearly: we have an econ omic prog ramme. Point No. 13 in that pr ogram me demands the nati onalisa tion of all public companies, in other words soc ialis ation, or what is known here as so ciali sm. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfec tly clear and that is the prin ciple of authority… the good of the community takes prio rity over that of the individ ual. But the St ate should ret ain contr ol; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the St ate; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the St ate or the interests of his fellow coun trymen. That is the overri ding point. The Th ird Re ich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourg eoisie is tea ring its hair over the question of priv ate prop erty, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeo isie is rott en to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the de vil.“
— Ad olf Hitl er, Hitl er's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931
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@thethirdman225 "Trying to make the case that ‘fascism is really left wing’ (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) is an attempt to rewrite history for political purposes."
Wrong. You are historically illiterate if anything. Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism/democracy, and marxism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism. Fascism, as created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
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@suzankathleen3953 "What do you think fas cism means, Historia, Magistra Vitae?"
It's not about what I think. It's about what the history tells us. Fasc ism has not been a thing since the W W2 ended. And when it was a thing, it was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Mar xist soci alism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose wasn't the promotion of private interest, but the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
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@nichan2475 "Fascism is more commonly associated with the so-called 'right-wing'."
Except Fascism had nothing to do with right wing of any kind whatsoever. On the contrary, it was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism/democracy, and marxism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism.
Fascism was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, Fascism comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. It cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
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The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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Nothing to do with the embargo.
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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@aidnic901 : Nope.
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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@bogdanzivkovic8711 : You have no clue what you are talking about.
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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Wrong. Has nothing to do with the embargo.
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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The problem is socialism, not the embargo.
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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"It’s the sanctions and the decades-long embargo that’s destroying the economy."
Wrong. It is their socialist government. Period.
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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Wrong. Their issues have nothing to do with the embargo.
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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Wrong.
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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@bogdanzivkovic8711 : You have no clue what you are talking about.
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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Wrong.
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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@bogdanzivkovic8711 : Wrong. You have no clue what you are talking about.
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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@bogdanzivkovic8711 : You have no clue what you are talking about.
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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Wrong.
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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Wrong.
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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Wrong.
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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@bogdanzivkovic8711 : Wrong. You have no clue what you are talking about.
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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@bogdanzivkovic8711 : You have no clue what you are talking about.
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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@bogdanzivkovic8711 : You have no clue what you are talking about.
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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@kaantax8666
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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Wrong.
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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Wrong.
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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Wrong.
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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@bogdanzivkovic8711 : Wrong. You have no clue what you are talking about.
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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Wrong. Nothing to do with the embargo.
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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Nothing to do with the embargo.
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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Wrong. The majority of Cuban's problems, economic and otherwise, are a direct result of their socialism and the Castro family.
The blockade does not prohibit fishermen in Cuba from fishing, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not confiscate what farmers harvest, the dictatorship does;
The blockade does not prohibit Cubans on the island from doing business freely, the dictatorship does;
The blockade did not destroy every sugar mill, textile factory, shoe store, canning factory, the dictatorship did;
The blockade is not responsible for Cubans being paid with worthless pesos and stores sell you products with American dollars; the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that Cubans are beaten and imprisoned for thinking differently, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible that there are hundreds of Cuban political prisoners who have not committed any crime, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for sending Cubans US dollars that they give to you in worthless pesos in the Western Union, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for the dictatorship building hotels and the roofs that fall on Cubans' heads, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for hospitals in Cuba that are disgusting, the dictatorship is;
The blockade is not responsible for not having water in homes, for not maintaining the aqueduct system, the dictatorship is;
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@EA-js1me "Ultranationalism, irredentism, isolationism, statism, militarism, authoritarianism, conspiracy theories like anti-vax, xenophobia, homophobia, transphobia, and “Christian values” whatever that means… but no, definitely not far-right."
Only isolationism is a Far-Right characteristics out of the things you mentioned btw.
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@ittestnow : Hitler never abolished unions. He merged and nationalized them into one single super union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German Labor Front). Still the biggest union ever created in Europe at least. The DAF created one single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, farmers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
Now if you want to talk about unions, well Hitler was merely imitating Lenin, who had earlier closed down all independent labor associations, factory committees and worker cooperatives, banned strikes, walkouts, and lockouts. Lenin even forced workers to work a slavish 80-hour week. After the Bolsheviks banned all labor unions, one unionist “described the unions as ‘living corpses.’” Any Russian worker who participated in general strikes was arrested, imprisoned or shot. Under Lenin’s regime, workers had no real representation or bargaining rights and were treated like industrial serfs who were chained to their factories. Although Hitler followed Lenin’s nationalizing craze, his treatment of workers did not mimic their Russian counterparts.
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@dyne313 "Yo, Hitler wasn't a fan of trade unions ... That's like a hallmark of "Left Wing"."
No socialist regime was a fan them. Every single socialist regime shut down independent unions. Not sure how Hitler is related to this conversation, but interestingly enough, both Hitler and Mussolini were simply imitating Lenin, who had earlier closed down all independent labor associations, factory committees and worker cooperatives, banned strikes, walkouts, and lockouts. Lenin even forced workers to work a slavish 80-hour week. After the Bolsheviks banned all labor unions, one unionist “described the unions as ‘living corpses.’” Any Russian worker who participated in general strikes was arrested, imprisoned or shot. Under Lenin’s regime, workers had no real representation or bargaining rights and were treated like industrial serfs who were chained to their factories. Although Hitler and Mussolini followed Lenin’s nationalizing craze, their treatment of workers did not mimic their Russian counterparts.
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@dyne313 "Fascism IS NOT left wing ... Fascism is a far right ideology."
Wrong. It was, a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism/democracy, and marxism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism.
Fascism was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, Fascism comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. It cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
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@AppleAirsoft "Fascist apologist lines like that crumble when put against basic ideological fact or political science, "
That was merely a historical fact. Nothing more, nothing less. Fascism was totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism/democracy, and marxism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism.
Fascism was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, Fascism comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. It cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
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@jeyna8243 "Fascism isn't socialism, where did you get that."
Wrong. It most certainly was, and that's a historical fact. It was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist no less, called Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism/democracy, and marxism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism.
Fascism was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, Fascism comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. It cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
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@seraphin01 ""Far-right politics, or right-wing extremism, is a spectrum of political thought that tends to be radically conservative, ultra-nationalist, and authoritarian, often also including nativist tendencies"
Pretty much the complete opposite. Conservatism itself doesn't mean anything since the term is relative and depends what the country considers traditional. Being ultra-nationalist is a Leftist trait, since nationalism itself is a form of collectivism. Also authoritarianism is usually the hallmark of collectivism, hence the Left.
If we agree that the Far-Left is represented by socialist and collectivist ideologies, then logic dictates, that the Far-Right would be represented by pro-Capitalist ideologies based on (Classical) Liberalism / Libertarianism, anti-establishment and limited government.
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@OatmealGrillBlazer "fascism is not a left-wing ideology, it is a right-wing ideology that sprung from ultra-nationalism,"
Still wrong. Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism/democracy, and marxism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism.
Fascism was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, Fascism comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. It cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
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@silviobleta "at cost of workers under them that suffered horrendously due to union-busting,"
Both Fascists and National Socialists nationalized their unions. So called "union-busting" happened under every single socialist regime. In fact, both Hitler and Mussolini were simply imitating Lenin, who had earlier closed down all independent labor associations, factory committees and worker cooperatives, banned strikes, walkouts, and lockouts. Lenin even forced workers to work a slavish 80-hour week. After the Bolsheviks banned all labor unions, one unionist “described the unions as ‘living corpses.’” Any Russian worker who participated in general strikes was arrested, imprisoned or shot. Under Lenin’s regime, workers had no real representation or bargaining rights and were treated like industrial serfs who were chained to their factories. Although Hitler and Mussolini followed Lenin’s nationalizing craze, their treatment of workers did not mimic their Russian counterparts.
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@silviobleta "Everything regarding fascism is in complete antithesis to far-left ideologies, in literally every way, from the economic standpoints "
Wrong. First, Fascism and National Socialism were two fundamentally different, 3rd position socialist ideologies. Secondly, Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism/democracy, and marxism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism.
Fascism was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, Fascism comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. It cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
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@rullvardi "far-right framework characterized by extreme nationalism, authoritarianism, and rejection of egalitarianism."
None of those things are within the Far-Right framework. If we agree that Far-Left is characterized by socialism and collectivism in general, then logic dictates, that in return the Far-Right is characterized by capitalism and individualism. Therefore, people on the right believe that the best outcome for society is achieved when individual rights and civil liberties are paramount (individualism) and the role — and especially the power — of the government is minimized.
All that which limits individual power and increases group power is on the left.
All that which limits group power and gives civil freedoms and liberties to individuals is on the right.
Nationalism is a form of collectivism, and not advocated by the Right. In all Right wing ideologies, the Individual is superior to the State. In Leftist and especially in socialist ideologies the collective (such as the State) is superior to the individual.
While authoritarianism can happen on both sides, it certainly is utilized more by collectivist and socialist ideologies, who need to make sure that the "common good" of their group is prioritized over individuals and their profits for example. You rarely need authoritarianism to force people to live how they want to live, as long as they do not violate other's rights to do the same.
Egalitarianism, i.e. concept of social equality, for all people, has never been advocated by the Left either. They have always advocated for equity and prioritizing their own specific group over others. Marxism is a perfect example of this, since they only prioritize the proletarians and want to eliminate the "bourgeoisie" entirely. Meanwhile the Right certainly advocates equality of opportunity, and under the rule of law, i.e. that people deserve equal rights (Classical Liberalism).
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@rullvardi : Fascism was based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism/democracy, and marxism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism.
Fascism was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, Fascism comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. It cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
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