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  17.  @JaxesGame  "I don't think Webster's Dictionary lied to me " It did. Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism, democracy, and marxist interpretation of socialism ("class warfare"). Instead, it advocated for class collaboration where the means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions / Fascist Corporatism), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism (Neo-Hegelianism). Being an outgrowth of Sorelian Syndicalism, (which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism), its idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the State, or "embody" the State (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the State, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State." As finalized by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile ("the Doctrine of Fascism"), Fascism came from the belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its "dictatorship of the proletariat" cannot be achieved, and that only the State can properly organize a socialist society. Therefore, Fascism cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State. [01] "La Dottrina Del Fascismo / the Doctrine of Fascism", by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile [02] "Che cosa è il Fascismo: Discorsi e polemiche / Origins and Doctrine of Fascism", by Giovanni Gentile [03] "the Philosophy of Fascism", by Mario Palmieri [04] "Fascism: An Informal Introduction to Its Theory and Practice", by Renzo De Felice [05] "Mussolini's Intellectuals", by A. James Gregor [06] "La Camera dei Fasci e delle Corporazioni", by Rabaglietti Giuseppe & Sergio Panunzio [07] "Teoria generale dello Stato Fascista", by Sergio Panunzio [08] "The Birth of Fascist Ideology" by
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  168.  currantbun2166  "and never even did basic socialist things like nationalising industry" Wrong. They did. They specifically nationalized most if not all the German industry and later reorganized all industries into corporations run by members of the Nazi Party. They called this nationalization as "Gleichschaltung". "To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.“ — Adolf Hitler, Hitler's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed.,
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  291.  @jjdelft3216  : You have no clue what you are talking about. Both Italian fas cis ts and German's national soc ialis ts were ha rd co re so cial ists. Both opposed liberal ca pital ism, but also int ernatio nal soc iali sm, hence the concept of a “third way,” their centralized economic policies obeyed collectivist and so ciali st principles, openly opposing cap itali sm and the free market, favoring nationalism and auta rchy. Mussolini was always a so ciali st, but after getting kicked out from the PSI due to wanting Italy be part of the war effort, he moved more into Sore lian syndi calis m. Adolf was always a so cia list also, in fact, during 1919 he was part of a m arx ist movement before getting arrested and writing his book. Adolf constantly called himself a so cia list and their party was called National soc iali sm because that's what it was, soc ialis m but national. "We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Soci alis ts. We are not internationalists. Our so ciali sm is national. We demand the fulfilment of the just claims of the productive classes by the state on the basis of race solidarity. To us state and race are one." "Soc ial ism, is the science of dealing with the common weal. Co mmun ism is not So cialis m. Mar xis m is not So ciali sm. The Mar xia ns have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take So ciali sm away from the So cialis ts."
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  323.  currantbun2166  "and never even did basic soci alist things like nationalising industry" Wrong. They did. They specifically nationalized most if not all the German industry and later reorganized all industries into corporations run by members of the Nazi Party. They called this nationalization as "Gleichschaltung". "To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.“ — Adolf Hitl er, Hitl er's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed.,
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  342.  currantbun2166  "and never even did basic socialist things like nationalising industry" Wrong. They did. They specifically nationalized most if not all the German industry and later reorganized all industries into corporations run by members of the Nazi Party. They called this nationalization as "Gleichschaltung". "To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.“ — Adolf Hitler, Hitler's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed.,
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  352.  currantbun2166  "and never even did basic soci alist things like nationalising industry" Wrong. They did. They specifically nationalized most if not all the German industry and later reorganized all industries into corporations run by members of the Nazi Party. They called this nationalization as "Gleichschaltung". "To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.“ — Adolf Hitler, Hitler's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed.,
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  395.  @eedragonr  Hi tler and his NS DAP were the State. NS DAP members were State employees. For example this is what happened to Junkers: "When the Na zis came into power in 1933 they requested Junkers and his businesses aid in the German re-armament. When Junkers declined, the Na zis responded by demanding ownership of all patents and market shares from his remaining companies, under threat of imprisonment on the grounds of High Treason. In 1934 Junkers was placed under house arrest, and died at home in 1935 during negotiations to give up the remaining stock and interests in Junkers. Under Na zi control, his company produced some of the most successful German warplanes of the Second World War." - Wiki And even the Time magazine wrote about Na zis confiscating businesses back in the day: "Most cruel joke of all, however, has been played by H itler & Co. on those German capitalists and small businessmen who once backed National Social ism as a means of saving Germany's bourgeois economic structure from radicalism. The Na zi credo that the individual belongs to the state also applies to business. Some businesses have been confiscated outright, on others what amounts to a capital tax has been levied. Profits have been strictly controlled. Some idea of the increasing Governmental control and interference in business could be deduced from the fact that 80% of all building and 50% of all industrial orders in Germany originated last year with the Government. Hard-pressed for foodstuffs as well as funds, the Nazi regime has taken over large estates and in many instances collectivized agriculture, a procedure fundamentally similar to Russian Comm unism." - "Adolf Hit ler: Man of the Year, 1938", Time; January 2, 1939.
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  464.  @Incognito-jf1dr  "the Nazis in 1933 promised industrialists that they would destroy socialism and trade Unions.if in power . " That they would destroy Marxism / Communism, not socialism. They had no problems with socialism. "To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. ... the basic principle of my Party's economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority... the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?... Today's bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil. .. I will tolerate no opposition. We recognize only subordination – authority downwards and responsibility upwards. You just tell the German bourgeoisie that I shall be finished with them far quicker than I shall with Marxism... When once the conservative forces in Germany realize that only I and my party can win the German proletariat over to the State and that no parliamentary games can be played with Marxist parties, then Germany will be saved for all time, then we can found a German Peoples State. .. Over the last forty years the German bourgeoisie has been a lamentable failure; it has not given the German people a single leader; it will have to bow without gainsaying to the totality of my ideology... The bourgeoisie rules by intrigue, but it can have no foothold in my movement because we accept no Jews or Jewish accomplices into our Party." - Hitler's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed.,
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  604.  @willtheoct  "Fas cism is a police state, where few rule and subjugate others, and left unchecked, the psychopaths at the top conduct experiments on humans in larger and larger number as they get more and more bored." While fasc ism certainly was totalitarian, it was way more than that. Fasc ism was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Mar xist soc ialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose wasn't the promotion of private interest, but the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state." Ideologically, where the Fasc ists diverged from the Marx ists was in their rejection of the narrative of class warfare, which they saw as utterly repudiated by the behavior of "the proletariat" during World War I, where rather than join together in a mutual overthrow of capitalism, the working class of each country stayed in lockstep with national loyalties and slaughtered their supposed foreign class brethren. Both the Fasc ists and Marxi sts despised Liberalism, and saw it as having a perverse role in atomizing the individual from society. Mussolini's favored intellectual, Giovanni Gentile, freely acknowledged Fas cism' kinship with Mar xism through Sorellian Syndic alism.
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  614.  @onedroprule  : Nothing false about it. Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism, democracy, and marxist interpretation of socialism ("class warfare"). Instead, it advocated for class collaboration where the means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions / Fascist Corporatism), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism (Neo-Hegelianism). Being an outgrowth of Sorelian Syndicalism, (which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism), its idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the State, or "embody" the State (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the State, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State." As finalized by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile ("the Doctrine of Fascism"), Fascism comes from the belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a socialist society. Therefore, Fascism cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
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  620. "to define fascism as being an ideology of the left ... Nothing could be further from the truth. " You are wrong. It is a historical fact that Fascism was an ideology of the Left, Far-Left in fact. It was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism, democracy, and marxism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism. Fascism was an outgrowth of Sorelian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state." As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, Fascism comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. It cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
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  686.  @MittiMaten  " it didnt nationalize any industry " Wrong. They literally nationalized most if not all the German industry and later reorganized all industries into corporations run by members of the Na zi Party. They called this nationalization as "Gleichschaltung". "To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words soc ialisation, or what is known here as soc ialism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Re ich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.“ — Adolf Hit ler, Hi tler's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed.
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  695.  @MittiMaten  "that the national socialist didnt nationalize any industry" Wrong. They did. They literally nationalized most if not all the German industry and later reorganized all industries into corporations run by members of the Na zi Party. They called this nationalization as "Gleichschaltung". "To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words soc ialisation, or what is known here as soc ialism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Re ich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.“ — Adolf Hit ler, Hi tler's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed.
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  730.  @charlesmiv3842  Here are few; “Some still ask of us: what do you want? We answer with three words that summon up our entire program. Here they are…Italy, Republic, Socialization... Socialization is no other than the implantation of Italian Socialism…” — Benito Mussolini, Speech given by Mussolini to a group of Milanese Fascist veterans (October 14, 1944) “Do not believe, even for a moment, that by stripping me of my membership card you do the same to my Socialist beliefs, nor that you would restrain me of continuing to work in favor of Socialism and of the Revolution.” — Benito Mussolini, Speech at the Italian Socialist Party’s meeting in Milan at the People’s Theatre on Nov. 25, 1914. “You cannot get rid of me because I am and always will be a socialist. You hate me because you still love me.” — Benito Mussolini, A Biography (1983), As quoted by Mussolini after he was expelled from the Italian Socialist Party in 1914. "For this I have been and am a socialist. The accusation of inconsistency has no foundation. My conduct has always been straight in the sense of looking at the substance of things and not to the form. I adapted socialisticamente to reality. As the evolution of society belied many of the prophecies of Marx, the true socialism folded from possible to probable. The only feasible socialism socialisticamente is corporatism, confluence, balance and justice interests compared to the collective interest. " — Benito Mussolini, As quoted in “Soliloquy for ‘freedom’ Trimellone island”, one of the last interviews of Mussolini, March 20, 1945
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  799.  @ewww21  Also regarding the definition of Fascism, it was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism, democracy, and marxist interpretation of socialism ("class warfare"). Instead, it advocated for class collaboration where the means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions / Fascist Corporatism), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism (Neo-Hegelianism). Being an outgrowth of Sorelian Syndicalism, (which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism), its idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the State, or "embody" the State (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the State, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State." As finalized by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile ("the Doctrine of Fascism"), Fascism came from the belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its "dictatorship of the proletariat" cannot be achieved, and that only the State can properly organize a socialist society. Therefore, Fascism cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
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  977.  @TheGalaxyWings  "Many of the companies that were nationalized by the social democrats during the weimar republic were later privatized by the na zis. " Not really. Privatization was never a thing in Na zi Germany. the Na zis issued quotas for industries and farms and later reorganized all industries into corporations run by members of the Na zi Party. Hitler advocated for nationalization since the beginning, and they later referred to this as "Gleichschaltung". "To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialis ation, or what is known here as soci alism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.“ — Ad olf Hit ler, Hit ler's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed. Even 'the Times' magazine mentioned this: "Most cruel joke of all, however, has been played by Hitler & Co. on those German capita lists and small businessmen who once backed National Socialism as a means of saving Germany's bourgeois economic structure from radicalism. The Na zi credo that the individual belongs to the state also applies to business. Some businesses have been confiscated outright, on others what amounts to a capital tax has been levied. Profits have been strictly controlled. Some idea of the increasing Governmental control and interference in business could be deduced from the fact that 80% of all building and 50% of all industrial orders in Germany originated last year with the Government. Hard-pressed for foodstuffs as well as funds, the N azi regime has taken over large estates and in many instances collectivized agriculture, a procedure fundamentally similar to Russian Comm unism." " "Ad olf Hit ler: Man of the Year, 1938", Time; January 2, 1939.
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  1039.  @maxfan1591  Wrong. They were far-left socialists. The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong. Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing. Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state. They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all Ger man workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being. Under the newly created Ger man Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage. It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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  1041.  @maxfan1591  Wrong. They were far-left socialists. The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong. Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hi tler tho ught the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing. Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were aboli shed with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state. They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every econ omic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being. Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage. It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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  1042.  @maxfan1591  Wrong. They were far-left socialists. The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong. Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing. Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private pr operty rights were aboli shed with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every Ger man is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state. They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being. Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage. It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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  1043.  @maxfan1591  Wrong. They were far-left socialists. The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further expla nation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wro ng. Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finan ce cap ital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing. Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state. They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being. Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage. It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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  1046.  @maxfan1591  Wrong. They were far-left socialists. The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong. Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing. Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private prop erty rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state. They natio nalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordin ated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being. Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by emp loyers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage. It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marx ist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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  1047.  @maxfan1591  Wrong. They were far-left socialists. The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marx ism or Nazi sm, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capit alists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Soci alist Society. They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the sta tus quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wr ong. Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with interna tional finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing. Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state. They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being. Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage. It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
    1
  1048.  @maxfan1591  Wrong. They were far-left socialists. The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Naz ism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capi talists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Soc ialist Society. They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong. Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing. Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire de cree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Art icle 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviou sly, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state. They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every ec onomic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emp hasized national economic goals above personal well-being. Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage. It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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  1055.  @maxfan1591  Wrong. They were far-left socialists. The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong. Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing. Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state. They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being. Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage. It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Socialist party was an alternative, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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  1056.  @maxfan1591  Wrong. They were far-left socialists. The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong. Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing. Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state. They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being. Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage. It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
    1
  1057.  @maxfan1591  Wrong. They were far-left socialists. The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Nazis believed, just like the Fasci sts, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thou ght Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong. Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoo ts of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That soc ialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing. Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Indus try was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state. They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being. Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage. It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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  1059.  @maxfan1591   Wrong. They were far-left socialists. The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong. Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing. Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Nazis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all property always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state. They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being. Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Nazis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage. It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hitler's National Socialist party was an alternative, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
    1
  1060.  @maxfan1591  Wrong. They were far-left socialists. The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alter native of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marx ists. Capit alists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the Sta te can properly organize a Social ist Society. They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong. Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing. Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state. They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being. Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage. It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
    1
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  1062.  @maxfan1591  Wrong. They were far-left socialists. The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong. Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their soci alism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nation alist. That social ism had to become nation alist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing. Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state. They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being. Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage. It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
    1
  1063.  @maxfan1591   Wrong. They were far-left socialists. The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong. Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing. Owning property was made conditional and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Nazis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all property always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state. They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being. Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Nazis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage. It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hitler's National Socialist party was an alternative, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
    1
  1064.  @maxfan1591  Wrong. They were far-left socialists. The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Rep ublic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong. Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing. Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guara nteed property. Obvi ously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divid ed into 13 sec tors and placed under the control of the state. They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being. Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage. It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
    1
  1065.  @maxfan1591  Wrong. They were far-left socialists. The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong. Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hit ler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Mar xism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mei n K ampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nation alist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing. Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state. They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Fo od Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being. Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage. It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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  1067.  @maxfan1591  Wrong. They were far-left socialists. The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong. Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing. Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state. They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or Ger man La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every econ omic sector belonged to the DAF. For exa mple, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national econo mic goals above perso nal well-being. Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage. It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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  1068.  @maxfan1591  Wrong. They were far-left socialists. The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong. Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socia lism had to bec ome nation alist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing. Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state. They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being. Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage. It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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  1083.  @maxfan1591  Wrong. They were far-left socialists. The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. They were politically, socially and economically anti-conservative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong. Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing. Owning property was made conditional and private property rights were abolished with the Reichstag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Nazis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dwelling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all property always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state. They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being. Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Nazis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage. It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hitler's National Socialist party was an alternative, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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  1091.  @maxfan1591  Wrong. They were far-left socialists. The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. They were politically, socially and economically anti-conservative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Monarchy and Kaiser. They were wrong. Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is socialist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing. Owning property was made conditional and private property rights were abolished with the Reichstag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Nazis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dwelling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all property always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state. They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being. Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Nazis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage. It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hitler's National Socialist party was an alternative, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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  1094.  @maxfan1591  ​Wrong. They were far-left socialists. The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. They were politically, socially and economically anti-conservative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Monarchy and Kaiser. They were wrong. Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is socialist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Jews) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing. Owning property was made conditional and private property rights were abolished with the Reichstag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Nazis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dwelling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all property always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state. They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German Labor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, farmers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being. Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Nazis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage. It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hitler's National Socialist party was an alternative, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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  1097.  @maxfan1591  Wrong. They were far-left socialists. The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the sta tus quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong. Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with inter national finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the M AIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing. Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every Ger man is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obvio usly, they did not confis cate everyone's prop erty, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state. They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being. Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Na zis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage. It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hi tler's National Soci alist party was an alter native, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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  1100.  @maxfan1591  Wrong. They were far-left socialists. The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong. Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing. Owning property was made conditional and private property rights were abolished with the Reichstag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Nazis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dwelling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all property always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state. They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being. Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Nazis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage. It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hitler's National Socialist party was an alternative, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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  1102.  @maxfan1591  Wrong. They were far-left socialists. The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Nazis believed, just like the Fascists, that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. They were politically, socially and econo mically anti-cons ervative, since they didn't want to preserve the status quo nor did they want to bring back Monarchy / Kaiser. The conservatives thought Hitler would end the Republic and bring back Mon archy and Kaiser. They were wrong. Hitler's point was that Marxism must be rejected NOT because it is soci alist, but because it is in cahoots with international finance capital. In fact, Hitler thought the Marxists were INSINCERE about their socialism. This being-in-cahoots of capitalism and Marxism (through the Je ws) is the MAIN point made in Mein Kampf. And is the reason why, for the Nazis, socialism had to become nationalist. That socialism had to become nationalist, did not, however, mean that it went right-wing. Owning prop erty was made conditi onal and private property rights were abolished with the Reich stag fire decree on February 28, 1933. The Na zis suspended a number of articles of the Weimar Constitution; Among these were Article 115 and Article 153. Article 115 said: "The dw elling of every German is his sanctuary and is inviolable. Exceptions may be imposed by authority of law." Article 153 also guaranteed property. Obviously, they did not confiscate everyone's property, however all pro perty always could be confiscated by the state and a certain amount was. Industry was divided into 13 sectors and placed under the control of the state. They nationalized unions into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German La bor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, far mers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being. Under the newly created German Labor Front (DAF), the Nazis set high wages, overtime pay was generous, and dismissal of workers by employers was difficult to execute, but inflation and stricter labor laws eroded much of that advantage. It was a well known fact before and during the war, that Hitler's National Socialist party was an alternative, socialist school of thought which rejected the marxist version of socialism, and capitalism respectively... hence they called themselves a 3rd position.
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  1150.  currantbun2166  "and never even did basic soci alist things like nationalising industry" Wrong. They did. They specifically nationalized most if not all the German industry and later reorganized all industries into corporations run by members of the Nazi Party. They called this nationalization as "Gleichschaltung". "To put it quite clearly: we have an eco nomic progra mme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socia lism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.“ — Adolf Hitl er, Hitl er's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed.,
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  1157.  currantbun2166  "and never even did basic soci alist things like nationalising industry" Wrong. They did. They specifically nationalized most if not all the German industry and later reorganized all industries into corporations run by members of the Nazi Party. They called this nationalization as "Gleichschaltung". "To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ide als any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my mov ement to the de vil.“ — Adolf Hitl er, Hitl er's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed.,
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  1166.  currantbun2166  "and never even did basic soci alist things like nationalising indu stry" Wrong. They did. They specifically nationalized most if not all the German industry and later reorganized all industries into corporations run by members of the Nazi Party. They called this nationalization as "Gleichschaltung". "To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the over riding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private prop erty, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.“ — Adolf Hitl er, Hitl er's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed.,
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  1175.  currantbun2166  "and never even did basic soci alist things like nationalising industry" Wrong. They did. They specifically nationalized most if not all the German industry and later reorganized all industries into corporations run by members of the Nazi Party. They called this nationalization as "Gleichschaltung". "To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the indi vidual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourg eoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourg eoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my move ment to the devil.“ — Adolf Hitl er, Hitl er's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed.,
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  1182.  currantbun2166  "and never even did basic soci alist things like nationalising industry" Wrong. They did. They specifically nationalized most if not all the German industry and later reorganized all industries into corporations run by members of the Nazi Party. They called this nationalization as "Gleichschaltung". "To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of auth ority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overrid ing point. The Third R eich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourge oisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.“ — Adolf Hitl er, Hitl er's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed.,
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  1191.  currantbun2166  "and never even did basic soci alist things like nationalising industry" Wrong. They did. They specifically nationalized most if not all the German industry and later reorganized all industries into corporations run by members of the Nazi Party. They called this nationalization as "Gleichschaltung". "To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the Sta te or the interests of his fellow count rymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bour geoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourg eoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.“ — Adolf Hitl er, Hitl er's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed.,
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  1199.  currantbun2166  "and never even did basic soci alist things like nationalising industry" Wrong. They did. They specifically nationalized most if not all the German industry and later reorganized all industries into corporations run by members of the Nazi Party. They called this nationalization as "Gleichschaltung". "To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.“ — Adolf Hitl er, Hitl er's inte rview with Ric hard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed.,
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  1214.  currantbun2166   "and never even did basic soci alist things like nationalising industry" Wrong. They did. They specifically nationalized most if not all the Germ an industry and later reorga nized all indu stries into corporations run by members of the Nazi Party. They called this nationalization as "Gleichschaltung". "To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner sh ould feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overri ding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn mone y and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.“ — Adolf Hitl er, Hitl er's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed.,
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  1217. ​ @robertl4824 : "By early May 1933, the trade unions had been destroyed. " Wrong. They were nationalized and merged into one single nation wide union known as the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German Labor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, farmers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being. / / / / / / ​ @robertl4824 : "For their part, businesses welcomed the Nazis' promises to suppress the left." The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do. Whatever the Nazi's promised, it never happened and this was also noted by the Time magazine. "Most cruel joke of all, however, has been played by Hitler & Co. on those German capitalists and small businessmen who once backed National Socialism as a means of saving Germany's bourgeois economic structure from radicalism. The Nazi credo that the individual belongs to the state also applies to business. Some businesses have been confiscated outright, on others what amounts to a capital tax has been levied. Profits have been strictly controlled. Some idea of the increasing Governmental control and interference in business could be deduced from the fact that 80% of all building and 50% of all industrial orders in Germany originated last year with the Government. Hard-pressed for foodstuffs as well as funds, the Nazi regime has taken over large estates and in many instances collectivized agriculture, a procedure fundamentally similar to Russian Communism." "Adolf Hitler: Man of the Year, 1938", Time; January 2, 1939. / / / / / / Socialism is an economic system where the collective (such as workers, guilds, the government etc.) either directly own or control the buildings and tools that make goods and services like farms and factories. This can be achieved through decentralized and direct worker-ownership, or through centralized state-ownership or control of the means of production. Nazis had the latter.
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  1218. @robertl4824 : "Instead of controlling the means of production or redistributing wealth to build a utopian society, the Nazis focused on safeguarding a social and racial hierarchy." They specifically controlled the means of production and believed in the socialization of the German people into a harmonious racial community free from exploitation. "Germany's economic policy is conducted exclusively in accordance with the interests of the German people. In this respect I am a fanatical socialist, one who has ever in mind the interests of all his people." Speech on the 21st Anniversary of the National Socialist Party (24 February 1941) / / / / / / ​ @robertl4824 : "Yes, Mussolini had been a socialist early during the First World War, but broke with his comrades to support Italian expansionism, and then formed his fascist party to crush them." Wrong. Mussolini started out as a Marxist, and stopped being one after getting kicked from the Italian Socialist Party. However even according to his own words, he never stopped being a socialist. “Do not believe, even for a moment, that by stripping me of my membership card you do the same to my Socialist beliefs, nor that you would restrain me of continuing to work in favor of Socialism and of the Revolution.” — Benito Mussolini Speech at the Italian Socialist Party’s meeting in Milan at the People’s Theatre on Nov. 25, 1914. / / / / / / ​ @robertl4824 : "When Hitler took over the party in 1921, he shredded the anti-capitalist parts of the old party's platform." Wrong. He didn't. Hitler specifically said in many of his speeches, that they are against capitalism and that they are proud socialists. "Socialism as the final concept of duty, the ethical duty of work, not just for oneself but also for one's fellow man's sake, and above all the principle: Common good before own good, a struggle against all parasitism and especially against easy and unearned income. And we were aware that in this fight we can rely on no one but our own people. We are convinced that socialism in the right sense will only be possible in nations and races that are Aryan, and there in the first place we hope for our own people and are convinced that socialism is inseparable from nationalism ... Since we are socialists, we must necessarily also be antisemites because we want to fight against the very opposite: materialism and mammonism... How can you not be an antisemite, being a socialist!" "Why We Are Anti-Semites," August 15, 1920 speech in Munich at the Hofbräuhaus. / / / / / / ​ @robertl4824 : "The "socialism" in the name National Socialism was a strategically chosen misnomer designed to attract working class votes where possible, but they refused to take the bait." Still wrong. The name signified what they were advocating for; socialism on a national level. Hitler was very open about this, it wasn't a secret. “But we National Socialists wish precisely to attract all socialists, even the Communists; we wish to win them over from their international camp to the national one.” — Adolf Hitler , Memoirs of a Confidant (1978), p. 26 / / / / / / ​ @robertl4824 : "The minority anti-capitalist strand of Nazism (Strasserism) on which van Onselen fastens was eliminated well before 1934, when Gregor Strasser and the Storm Trooper (SA) leader Ernst Roehm were murdered with over eighty others in the "Night of the Long Knives."" The Night of the Long Knives had nothing to do with capitalism nor socialism for that matter. It was about the internal power struggle between Hitler and Röhm. Regarding Strasser, what made him and Hitler have a falling out was not that Hitler was secretly a capitalism supporter. It was, as written in the text by Strasser titled "The socialists leave the NSDAP", that he did not approve of Hitlers imperial "Lebensraum" policies and considered National Socialism to be a non-expansionist movement.
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  1219. ​ @robertl4824 : "Hitler was sent to spy on a tiny RIGHT-WING political party called the DAP, the German Workers Party. " DAP wasn't right wing in any way. One of the mistakes in the video. / / / / / / ​ @robertl4824 : "He eventually became its leader changing its name to the National Socialist German Workers Party in an effort to win over those on the moderate left." (in other words: "socialist" was a ruse.)" Wrong. They changed the name because it signified what they were advocating for; socialism on a national level. Hitler was very open about this, it wasn't a secret. “But we National Socialists wish precisely to attract all socialists, even the Communists; we wish to win them over from their international camp to the national one.” — Adolf Hitler , Memoirs of a Confidant (1978), p. 26 / / / / / / ​ @robertl4824 : "their “socialism” was at best a secondary element in their appeal." Wrong. It was socialism. Nazi Germany had a centralized and planned economy similar to the USSR under Stalin. Government controlled the means of production and also decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid. This is what we call a Command economy nowadays, part of the socialist economic system. / / / / / / ​ @robertl4824 : " they saw it as an enemy of and an alternative to the political left." They saw it as an enemy to marxism and capitalism. National Socialism was specifically classified as a 3rd position movement because of it.
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  1262.  @Fluxwux  "Fascism is to its core a right wing ideology," Wrong. Again, Fascism had absolutely nothing to do with Right wing of any kind whatsoever. Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism, democracy, and marxist interpretation of socialism ("class warfare"). Instead, it advocated for class collaboration where the means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions / Fascist Corporatism), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism (Neo-Hegelianism). Being an outgrowth of Sorelian Syndicalism, (which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism), its idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the State, or "embody" the State (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the State, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State." As finalized by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile ("the Doctrine of Fascism"), Fascism came from the belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its "dictatorship of the proletariat" cannot be achieved, and that only the State can properly organize a socialist society. Therefore, Fascism cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State. [01] "La Dottrina Del Fascismo / the Doctrine of Fascism", by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile [02] "Che cosa è il Fascismo: Discorsi e polemiche / Origins and Doctrine of Fascism", by Giovanni Gentile [03] "the Philosophy of Fascism", by Mario Palmieri [04] "Fascism: An Informal Introduction to Its Theory and Practice", by Renzo De Felice [05] "Mussolini's Intellectuals", by A. James Gregor [06] "La Camera dei Fasci e delle Corporazioni", by Rabaglietti Giuseppe & Sergio Panunzio [07] "Teoria generale dello Stato Fascista", by Sergio Panunzio [08] "The Birth of Fascist Ideology" by Zeev Sternhell [09] Any work from Emilio Gentile
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  1348.  @anacc3257  : Incorrect. M usso lini started out as a m arx ist and after getting ki ck ed out from the Italian PSI (a m ar xi st party), he denounced ma rxi sm but he always stayed as a so cia list. Fa sci sm was a form of (st ate) so cia lis m and Mus soli ni was stri ctly ag ainst ca pitali sm. Fas cis m opposed lib eral cap ital ism, but also int erna tion al soc iali sm, hence the concept of a “third way,” their cent raliz ed eco no mic poli cies obeyed co llec tiv ist and so cial ist princ iples, ope nly oppo sing cap ital ism and the fr ee m ark et, fav oring nati onali sm and autarchy. "Today we can affirm that the ca pitali stic method of production is out of date. So is the doctrine of la issez-fai re, the theoretical basis of ca pita lism… Today we are taking a new and decisive step in the path of revolution. A revolution, in order to be great, must be a soci al revolution.“ — Be nito Mu sso lini, Speech on November 14, 1933 "You cannot get rid of me because I am and always will be a so cial ist. You hate me because you still love me.“ — Be nito Muss olini, A Biography (1983) p. 8. As quoted by Muss olini after he was expelled from the Italian So cial ist Party in 1914. 1910s "Do not believe, even for a moment, that by stripping me of my membership card you do the same to my So cial ist beliefs, nor that you would rest rain me of continuing to work in favor of So ciali sm and of the Re volution.“ — Ben ito Muss olini, Speech at the Italian So cial ist Party’s meeting in Milan at the People’s Theatre on Nov. 25, 1914.
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  1367.  @eedragonr  "What industry ever have the Na zis nationalized and confiscated?" Every major industry. Junkers for example, or Volkswagen or IG Far ben, or Krupp or Hugo Boss or Porsche. Every single one of the major industries were either owned by NS DAP directly, or its individual members. Either businesses bent the knee to the NS DAP or the owners were replaced by Hit ler's own goons. Of course the NSDAP got lucky in the sense, that most of the CEO's were already part of the NS DAP movement. "To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialis ation, or what is known here as socia lism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.“ — Adolf Hit ler, Hitl er's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed.
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  1375.  @pqunit  "They privat ized industries and even so cial we lfare programs wherever poss ible. " Wrong. Privatizati on was never a thing in Na zi Germany. On the con trary, they nationa lized most of the industry and later reorganized all industries into corporations run by members of the Nazi Party. They called this "Gleichsch altung". "To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words social isation, or what is known here as socia lism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the princ iple of autho rity… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the Sta te should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the S tate; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the St ate or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Th ird R eich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bour geoisie is tearing its hair over the question of pri vate prop erty, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourg eoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the de vil.“ — Ad olf Hi tler, Hi tler's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed.
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  1391.  @thebakersbaker4724  "Look up how and where the word “privatization” was coined." It was coined by some random journalist in 'The Economist" magazine. Privatization wasn't a thing in W W2 Europe. Na zis nationalized most if not all the German industry and later reorganized all industries into corporations run by members of the Na zi Party. They called this nationalization as "Gleichschaltung". "To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words social isation, or what is known here as sociali sm. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.“ — Adolf Hitl er, Hit ler's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed.,
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  1451.  @yuliusseraph4973  " I wonder where the term privatization came from... it was coined to describe nazis economic policy." It came from and was coined by some random journalist in 'the Economist' magazine back in the day. Nothing to do with Nazi economic policies. Nazis themselves used the word "Gleichschaltung", which meant a system of totalitarian control and coordination over all aspects of German society and societies occupied by Nazi Germany from the economy and trade associations to the media, culture and education. "To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.“ — Adolf Hitler, Hitler's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed.
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  1611. @26:55 , the road which Joseph Stiglitz is paving with his Keynesian economics, is certainly leading closer to Fascism. After all, Fascism was all about the centralization State power and economy, trying to find unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State. Fascism was all about the big "daddy" government watching over you and regulating as much as possible in the name of the well being of the Nation. Meanwhile Neoliberalism, which Stiglitz seems to be afraid, was and is the complete opposite of Fascism... which was a socialist 3rd position ideology after all. "Fascism, which is the very antithesis of Individualism, stands as the nemesis of all economic doctrines and all economic practice of both the capitalistic and the communistic systems. Fascism holds that: 01. The economic life of man cannot be abstracted and separated from the whole of his spiritual life. In the words of Mussolini: “The economic man does not exist. Man is integral; he is political, economic, religious, saint and warrior at the same time.” 02. The economic life of man is influenced, if not actually determined, by idealistic factors. 03. True economic progress can derive only from the concerted effort of individuals who know how to sacrifice their personal egoism and ambitions for the good of the whole. 04. Economic initiatives cannot be left to the arbitrary decisions of private, individual interests. 05. Open competition, if not wisely directed and restricted, actually destroys wealth instead of creating it. 06. The wealth of a community is something intangible which cannot be identified with the sum of riches of single individuals. 07. The proper function of the State in the Fascist system is that of supervising, regulating and arbitrating the relationships of capital and labor, employers and employees, individuals and associations, private interests and national interests. 08. Class war is avoidable and must be avoided. Class war is deleterious to the orderly and fruitful life of the nation therefore it has no place in the Fascist State. 09. More important than the production of wealth is its right distribution, distribution which must benefit in the best possible way all the classes of the nation, hence, the nation itself. 10. Private wealth belongs not only to the individual, but in a symbolic sense, to the State as well. These fundamental tenets of Fascist economy derive in turn from those basic conceptions of the Fascist doctrine of the State which we have expounded in the chapter of the “Fascist State.” We have said there, in fact, that the Fascist State is a Sovereign State. This means that there cannot be any single economic interests which are above the general economic interests of the State, no individual, economic initiatives which do not fall under the supervision and regulation of the State, no relationships of the various classes of the nations which are not the concern of the State. We see thus the Fascist State resolutely enter the economic field to dictate what shall be from now on the relationship between the capital and labor, employer and employees, landowner and farmhand, industrialist and worker." — The Philsophy of Fascism, Mario Palmieri, 1936
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  1625.  @franko2886  : Nope. I'm citing historical facts. Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism, democracy, and marxism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism. Fascism was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state." As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, Fascism comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. It cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State. [01] "La Dottrina Del Fascismo / the Doctrine of Fascism", by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile [02] "Che cosa è il Fascismo: Discorsi e polemiche / Origins and Doctrine of Fascism", by Giovanni Gentile [03] "the Philosophy of Fascism", by Mario Palmieri [04] "Fascism: An Informal Introduction to Its Theory and Practice", by Renzo De Felice [05] "Mussolini's Intellectuals", by A. James Gregor [06] "La Camera dei Fasci e delle Corporazioni", by Rabaglietti Giuseppe & Sergio Panunzio [07] "Teoria generale dello Stato Fascista", by Sergio Panunzio [08] Any work from Emilio Gentile
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  1694.  @akastewart  "Additionally, if you believe Liberalism is far-right, where do you believe Fascism sits relative to that?" Fascism was adjacent to Marxism, on its right side, since it was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism, democracy, and marxism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism. Fascism was an outgrowth of Sorelian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state." As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, Fascism comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. It cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State. [01] "La Dottrina Del Fascismo / the Doctrine of Fascism", by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile [02] "Che cosa è il Fascismo: Discorsi e polemiche / Origins and Doctrine of Fascism", by Giovanni Gentile [03] "the Philosophy of Fascism", by Mario Palmieri [04] "Fascism: An Informal Introduction to Its Theory and Practice", by Renzo De Felice [05] "Mussolini's Intellectuals", by A. James Gregor [06] "La Camera dei Fasci e delle Corporazioni", by Rabaglietti Giuseppe & Sergio Panunzio [07] "Teoria generale dello Stato Fascista", by Sergio Panunzio [08] Any work from Emilio Gentile
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  1772.  @fburton8  "classical fascism is a right-wing phenomenon ... but equating them with fascism overlooks the distinct historical and ideological foundations of fascism as a far-right ideology." Wrong. Fascism had nothing to do with Right wing of any kind whatsoever. Again, Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism/democracy, and marxism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism. Fascism was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state." As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, Fascism comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. It cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
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  1839.  @cascadianapplications7124  "You're going to have to prove that the NS DAP was actu ally soci ali st " They had a cen tralize d gove rnm ent, centr alized eco nomy (planned) similar to US SR, the gove rnment control led the means of prod uction and busin esses in general and decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what met hods, and to whom it was to be distrib uted, as well as what pri ces would be charged and what wages would be paid. "To put it quite clearly: we have an econ omic prog ramme. Point No. 13 in that pr ogram me demands the nati onalisa tion of all public companies, in other words soc ialis ation, or what is known here as so ciali sm. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfec tly clear and that is the prin ciple of authority… the good of the community takes prio rity over that of the individ ual. But the St ate should ret ain contr ol; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the St ate; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the St ate or the interests of his fellow coun trymen. That is the overri ding point. The Th ird Re ich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourg eoisie is tea ring its hair over the question of priv ate prop erty, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeo isie is rott en to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the de vil.“ — Ad olf Hitl er, Hitl er's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931
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  2335.  @AppleAirsoft  "Fascist apologist lines like that crumble when put against basic ideological fact or political science, " That was merely a historical fact. Nothing more, nothing less. Fascism was totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism/democracy, and marxism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism. Fascism was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state." As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, Fascism comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. It cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
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  2438.  @silviobleta  "Everything regarding fascism is in complete antithesis to far-left ideologies, in literally every way, from the economic standpoints " Wrong. First, Fascism and National Socialism were two fundamentally different, 3rd position socialist ideologies. Secondly, Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism/democracy, and marxism. The means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism. Fascism was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state." As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, Fascism comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. It cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
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  2456.  @rullvardi  "far-right framework characterized by extreme nationalism, authoritarianism, and rejection of egalitarianism." None of those things are within the Far-Right framework. If we agree that Far-Left is characterized by socialism and collectivism in general, then logic dictates, that in return the Far-Right is characterized by capitalism and individualism. Therefore, people on the right believe that the best outcome for society is achieved when individual rights and civil liberties are paramount (individualism) and the role — and especially the power — of the government is minimized. All that which limits individual power and increases group power is on the left. All that which limits group power and gives civil freedoms and liberties to individuals is on the right. Nationalism is a form of collectivism, and not advocated by the Right. In all Right wing ideologies, the Individual is superior to the State. In Leftist and especially in socialist ideologies the collective (such as the State) is superior to the individual. While authoritarianism can happen on both sides, it certainly is utilized more by collectivist and socialist ideologies, who need to make sure that the "common good" of their group is prioritized over individuals and their profits for example. You rarely need authoritarianism to force people to live how they want to live, as long as they do not violate other's rights to do the same. Egalitarianism, i.e. concept of social equality, for all people, has never been advocated by the Left either. They have always advocated for equity and prioritizing their own specific group over others. Marxism is a perfect example of this, since they only prioritize the proletarians and want to eliminate the "bourgeoisie" entirely. Meanwhile the Right certainly advocates equality of opportunity, and under the rule of law, i.e. that people deserve equal rights (Classical Liberalism).
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