Comments by "" (@Cloud_Seeker) on "How to Ideologically undermine Holocaust Denialism" video.

Sorry what? When was TIK in anyway antisemitic? The Nazis are antisemitic, but it isn't antisemitic to explain their reasoning for being antisemitic. You do not take part in the activity when you describe the activity. You do know that the Nuremberg Trials was planned to not even bring up the horrors of the death camps and concentration camps right? The trials was made to show the systematic discrimination and oppression that was in the Nazi government. No eye witnesses was ever needed because of the amount of documentation. If you are going to explain the ideological reason behind why that systematic oppression was created you need to explain the ideology which include why antisemitism in the explanation.
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@bv2623 "So why does TIK keep referring to the dogwhistle "they"?" - In common speech it is common to say they or them when you are talking about a group so you don't have to say the same thing over and over again. Example: If am making a long argument why PETA is a horrible orginization that kill more animals then they help. I will often refer PETA to they or them so I do not have to say PETA in every sentence as that make the argument kind of harsh to listen to. "Also his constant blabbering on cultural marxism, a derivative of the "jewish bolshevik conspiracy" plot propagated by the nazi's (sharing the mutual love for anti-intellectualism), is much worrying." - Now that just isn't true. The Nazis did have a jewish bolshevik conspiracy, but if you are going to explain why the Nazis had a jewish bolshevik conspiracy you need to explain that conspiracy. It kind of belongs to the topic. "I don't say he is a full blown fascist but he is very much on the road to become one." - You don't know what the word Fascist even means. No, he is not even close. "And thus ,ironically, proving the marxist narrative of radicalized capitalism ending in fascism." - Again. You don't even understand what Fascism means. Fascism is not the end point of capitalism. You are doing nothing but listening to Communist propaganda at this point. Maybe you should actually study fascism some more. On the otherhand you shouldn't as the communists found out it was easy to make Fascists become Communists and vise versa through brain washing. Its easy because they are very much alike. "Also why is it a problem people calling this out?" - Because you are incorrect and say things you have no understanding about.
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@bieberle4 All I heard was common ways to speak when you are talking about a topic. Them or they are common words in the English language. I also do not buy the dogwhistle BS. If you are acting like that you are most likely engaging in identity politics. Only in circles like that are common word uses dogwhistles. Also. If you have irrational and trained reactions to hearing some word as if it is a dogwhistle. Maybe you should look up your own behavior and see if your behavior is healthy and well reasoned. You might simply react without not actually using your brain.
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@bieberle4 Yes, it is obvious just because he have established who he is talking about. It is perfectly normal in English to use they and them when you have established who you are talking about as it is rather silly to keep establishing who you are talking about when you have already done so. In literature it is called reading comprehension. The only people you keep having to reestablish who you are talking about are children and idiots. If someone is doing it to you, they most likely either trying to make something extremely clear or are looking down on you. You are doing is trying to make up some nonsense that the use of "they" and "them" is somehow used to not say the word Jew or Jews because it for some reason to disgusting to say. This is just utter nonsense. Let me show you some examples of how to use them and they in English. Example 1: The Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division (also known as SHIELD) is an American extra-governmental military counter-terrorism and intelligence agency, tasked with maintaining both national and global security. SHIELD include several members such as Melinda May and Leo Fitz. Example 2: The Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division (also known as SHIELD) is an American extra-governmental military counter-terrorism and intelligence agency, tasked with maintaining both national and global security. They include several members such as Melinda May and Leo Fitz. As you can see in example 2 "they" is used just like it is used in common tongue. It isn't as formal as in example 1 but no one actually speak in formal language. Saying "they" in example 2 does not in anyway imply SHIELD is in some way disguesting. It is as ridiculous to call the use of "they" in example 2 antisemitic as it is calling any use of "they" or "them" when talking about Jews. You have to imply that TIK was for some reason antisemitic please provide the timestamp in the video. I want to note that if he uses it in a qoute or in a explanation it does not apply to TIK. You do not adopt what is said in a qoute or explanation unless your point is that the qoute of explanation is something that you subscribe to. I do not become a member of the KKK just because I use an example for why they are horrible by using qoutes KKK members have said.
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Yes. Socialism belongs to the left and Hitler belongs to the far left. You can't go to the right where you go to increasing degrees of personal freedom and then somehow end up with no freedom outside of what the government tells you. You should actually read Mein Kampf or The Doctrine of Fascism if you do not understand why Fascism is a socialist ideology. Also your comment about venn diagrams and compass charts is nonsense. What do you even mean with "venn diagram". What you do with a venn diagram is that you take two or more things and show how much they overlap. Just because venn diagrams exists does not mean they are correct. The same applies for compass charts. Hitler and Fascism is an extreme authoritarian left wing ideology. It wants extreme control of the people and extreme control of the means of production as everything belongs to the state. If you read The Doctrine of Fascism you will hear clearly that Benito Mussolini claims that Fascism is like a religion and you should dedicate yourself fully to the state just as if the state is a God. That individualism should be abolished. This is one of the great things I think really shows the separation between communism and Fascism. At least individualism exist within communism as the people are made up out of individuals.
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Why?
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@DomWeselnyBrzozieLub Well that is just incorrect. If we take for example Capitalism in its extreme you get things like Objectivism. Where you do not care for what the workers have to go through if you can get your goal and make money on it. The idea that workers and entitled to paid vacation is something socialistic ideas have brought. The idea that children should not be used in the workforce is another. The idea that everyone in a society no matter their economic wealth have the right to vote is another. Many socialists today hate the fact "Capitalism" have relented to the demands of the left to find a working middle ground. Many today claim it "ruin the revolution" as it disarms the revolution as it solves the problems people should revolt against. Socialism have given some good contributions to the western society. That is why we have a mixed economy and not a pure capitalistic economy.
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@agrameroldoctane_66 When did I justify anything? Socialistic ideas are not the same as socialistic states. You clearly haven't seen when I have been called a Nazi for pointing out the faults and horror socialistic states such as the Nazis and Communism have caused. Also no. The removal of child workers happened after the industrial revolution. You are not correct in any way by pointing at some "military mobilisation poll concerns". This is not even correct in US history, as if US history is the only history in the world. I also didn't say anything about "social justice". These laws was created through social reforms. Many of these reforms had people who used socialistic ideology as a base. This is not "social justice". I think you are rather insane of you have this pattern of though. Maybe you should have a deep look into yourself if the mention of "Social" to you means "social justice". You are as extreme as the SJWs you hate. You just like them lack the ability to see in shades of gray and can't appreciate a good idea if it comes from someone of a different tribe.
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You got it the wrong way around. Let me correct it for you. Socialists are holocaust denialist because they refuse to recognize that Fascism is socialistic. That's the argument. Stop making strawmen next time.
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@6idangle "Socialism has nothing to do with the holocaust it is an idea aimed at eliminating class division and breaking down the divisions of race and gender and ending war." - What you just said is the sugarcoated version where everything is perfect and fine. It isn't going to work out that way. Its like saying the holocaust was the removal of national threat to ensure the safety and security for humanity. It is just ignoring how that is going to be achieved. No. To eliminate class division you are going to have to murder people. But even then there will be class divisions as it will always form. Everyone can not have a Lamborghini. You will always have classes being formed as some people are just worth more then others. "Hitler was the exact opposite and was trying to appeal to a broader base by calling himself socialist." - Do you think a society that is a totalitarian dictatorship try to "appeal" to society as a whole? No. Hitler was a socialist no matter how much you want to deny it. You are just trying to redefine what socialism is about so you can remove Hitler from it. Hitler wanted to remove class divisions and make everything owned by a collective organization called the government which means everything is everyones.
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@trolldatshityeahyou4001 If you take a look into The Doctrine of Fascism by Benito Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile you can see that Fascism is based on the "worship of the state". In the book Fascism is described as a form of religion, where everyone and everything should belong to the "church" aka state. There is no way you can look at the ideology of Fascism and deny it is Socialistic.
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