Comments by "Volound" (@Volound) on "Munchies" channel.

  1. MrHumanforlife drunken idiot.
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  2. MrHumanforlife what kind of question is that? what the fuck is wrong with you?
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  3. MrHumanforlife insecurity? call into my podcast and ask me where i get my news. until then, you can fuck right off, you worthless piece of internet offal.
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  4. rox mo "I'm pretty sure that getting asphyxiated, electrocuted or bolt stunned hurts."   no. this is why we use these. google them.  "The reason Kosher/Halal doesn't allow that to happen before the slitting of the the oesophagus/jugular is because otherwise the animal will be brain dead n its body does not function/react in the correct way." no. it is done because it is tradition. superstitious nonsense. "The correct way being that all the blood drains out and is therefore much cleaner as most contamination becomes present in the blood." this is irrelevant. all methods of slaughter involves draining the blood. "In terms of treatment prior to and during slaughter- Jewish and Muslim Slaughter houses ensure better standard of care, quality and kindness than others." red herring.   "If ur a vegan or vegetarian, u have ur own reasons for not consuming meat n I respect that." i am not. "But please do not let ur views against halal/kosher be for any other reason." i already gave my reasoning. fucking read some of my comments. "And as for 'ritual slaughter'- invoking the name of God doesn't make it ritual (that gives the image of aztec human sacrifice)." that would be a ritual by definition. "They invoke the name of their creator to attain consent to take the life of another creation of their creator, in order to ensure the meat is permissible to eat." it does nothing. superstitious, ritualistic nonsense.
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  5. dunnowy123 halal will be banned in the UK soon, especially with far-right populism on the rise. halal is the same as non-halal except the animal is tortured before it dies. 
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  6. dunnowy123 "No, it often tastes fresher" placebo. it isnt. "and I notice non-halal meat has a smell to it because of the blood." as i explained, the blood is drained in both cases. this is nonsense. "How it it tortured?" read the fucking thead. "The whole point is to slit the throat and kill it quickly." the whole point is that the animal is awake while it endures the trauma that causes it to die. read the thread. captive stun bolt is what people use when they want to kill it quickly without regard for superstition. read the thread. "That's the opposite of torture." killing it as quickly and painlessly as possible is the opposite of halal, which is torture by definition for the sake of superstition.  "Will it not work EVERY time? Maybe. But, so what?" so you are condoning unnecessary suffering and are a piece of shit. "Your in the business of slaughtering animals, it's not supposed to be easy." it is though. we have had the utility of  painless mechanisms for a very long time. captive stun bolt. "And...even if the far right does take power in the UK (BTW, how many seats do they have again?) the political backlash would be enormous. No way that's happening." the right has taken over the whole of europe, barring maybe some of scandinavia, but that is also changing. have you not been paying attention?  "In any case, you might as well ban meat all together, because it's all the same shit." false equivalency. in one case, an animal has a completely painless death, and in the other, an animal drowns in its own blood while it flails around frantically, experiencing an intense fight-or-flight response after having its arteries and trachea severed. "I'd rather advocate for the right of people to eat the meat their religion dictates that the "welfare" (and I put that in quotations because it's dubious) of animals." then you are just a shit person. you care more about pandering to pernicious human superstition than you do about welfare. "I'm sure the Netherlands and Denmark had alternative reasons for the ban and "animal rights" was only incidental." then you are stupid in addition to being a piece of shit.
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  7. dunnowy123 "Doesn't it often require multiple stuns to actually stun larger animals?" no. that would just be completely stupid. if that were the case, the stun bolt would me made more potent.   "And  why is slitting the throat and dropping the blood flow to the brain crueler?" i explained this already. the animal is conscious during the entire process. it drowns in its own blood while fully awake.   "Because it's hung and the blood drains down?" hanging upside down adds to the cruelty. it would compensate for the loss of blood pressure and ensure the animal is conscious for even longer.  "I see less opportunities for cruelty than we see with typical slaughtering methods." that is just completely stupid and flies in the face of all conventional understanding and every single piece of evidence. "From the methods are supposed to be used in halal, the animal seems to be treated better if they follow the actual rules." halal determines the method of slaughter, not the way the animal is raised. this is handwaving. red herring. "If an industry is poorly regulated, the standards won't be high regardless if they're slaughtered halal style or not." this is not relevant. red herring. "And just because the right takes power in continental Europe doesn't mean it's going to happen in the UK, which is quite different that most of Europe. Political mobilization on the part of minorities is a whole different ballgame, meaning a "takeover" by the BNP or any of far right party is unlikely." the european politic is shifting to the right. this is a banal statement. "BUT, in the end, I don't really care. I'm still going to eat me. Halal or non-halal. You keep getting worked up over this." then you are just a shitty person. you have conceded all notions of right/wrong suffering/wellbeing and just stated you dont care. irresponsible behaviour from an irresponsible and shitty person.
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  8. dunnowy123 and you spew fallacy after fallacy in barely passable english in the hope that something will get through, or stick. pathetic.
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  9. dunnowy123 you could care less? really? how much could you care less? tell me. this is the caliber of idiot i am dealing with.
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  10. JGZulu did you attend a madrasa? 
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  11. dunnowy123 as long as all of your stupidity has been dealt with, i am happy to let the record stand.
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  12. ***** dont tell me what to do, simpleton. especially when nothing in your comment even remotely rresembles any attempt at reason or rationality. read a fucking  book.
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  13. ***** read the thread, you fucking idiot. how do you expect me to believe that you have read a book when you respond to a thread that you did not even fucking read?
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  14. ***** says the moron rehashing what has already been debunked in the thread in which it was debunked. fuck off.
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  15. ***** all of the scientific literature buttresses my position. you have nothing but prescribed superstitious nonsense. you can assert that what i provide is "media" and "articles" but that achieves nothing and it remains true that all of the evidence is on my side.
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  16. ***** says the person that ignores an entire thread and then pretends there is not a 100% consensus among the relevant experts that he is wrong. fuck off, you absolute clown. take your medication.
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  17. Brown man nonsense. histrionic gibberish. fuck off.
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  18. Brown man fuck yourself. you pulled one of the lowest moves possible in a dialogue, which was to assert emptily that i "hate muslims". give the single best piece of "evidence" for this disgusting assertion. i am calling you out - take responsibility for your burden of proof.  until you do, you are just a reprehensible, benighted piece of shit that does the equivalent of going around accusing people of being "islamophobes" and "racist" with zero basis whatsoever. it is a dishonest and pathetic histrionic whine tactic and anyone that is not a fucking clown can see straight through it. i bet you deliberately called yourself "brown man" (autistic as hell) just so you could pull the race card at any moment. waiting. expecting nothing because you are just a scumbag and know exactly what you are doing..
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  19. Brown man no attempt whatsoever to demonstrate that i hate muslims. 100% failure. take your largactil you absolute fucking imbecile - asking me to post my contact details on a youtube video. get a grip you fucking moron.
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  20. JGZulu "Dude science has shown it's one of the most humane ways of killing.  The nail to the brain thing most slaughterhouses do has actually been shown to cause the animal more pain." bullshit. in addition to making absolutely no sense to any person with a brain, your comment is a blatant lie. there is no science that buttresses your stupid position. prove me wrong. cite your source.
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  21. *****  "Doesn't matter how you kill an animal, be it stun or ritual, killing an animal is killing an animal." absolutely disgusting. in that case, we should stop giving morphine to terminal cancer victims. we should just slit their throat and let them drown on their own blood, instead of spending money and time making their death as painless and humane as possible. if you honest stand by what you wrote, you are a disgusting, benighted piece of shit. "I think everyone should just stop eating meat and this problem will be solved once and for all." eating meat has utility. some people need to eat meat or else they start passing out while walking down the street. babies die because they suckle from their vegan mother and the breast milk is extremely thin and lacks what the baby needs, because the mother does not eat animal products. for some people, not eating meat at all just is not an option. "Are you ready to give up eating meat Volound?" how do you know i havent? stop being such a presumptuous, arrogant piece of shit. "So until you actually give up meat, you really have no say on this matter because the meat you consume is also butchered and the animal dies as a result." bollocks. does not follow at all.  "Also statistics show that stunning is also not right because there is a 30 percent chance that the animal would not be properly stunned and thus feel pain." regardless of its drawbacks, the consensus of relevant experts agree that it is much better to pre-stun animals, so that they are not conscious during their deaths. you need to overturn this consensus or else you have nothing to offer. "If you really cared about the welfare of animals, you wouldn't be buying meat from animals at all. " bullshit. disgusting nonsense. grow the fuck up.
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  22. greveeen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courtier's_Reply
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  23. puttytat007 no point trying with an illiterate hypocrite with no sense of irony.
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  24. ForgetherestAIMHIGH i already responded to all of this nonsense. read the thread and stop being so completely silly.
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  25. ***** that is what the overwhelming preponderance of the evidence suggests. ignore academic and scientific consensus at your peril.
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  26. os75 learn to construct a coherent fucking sentence you imbecile. do you honestly expect me to try to read that garbage? fuck off.
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  27. ***** i know how to capitalise sentences. i omit capitalisation and apostrophes to save time, and not due to unwilling ignorance. my writing is still completely legible and does not need to be deciphered, and my arguments actually work. 
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  28. os75 learn a fucking language if you want to convey anything other than ignorance.
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  29. os75 like i said, learn how to construct a fucking intelligible paragraph then come back. do you honestly expect me to read that?
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  30. Rahardi Kramadibrata see what? you linked the wikipedia page of a dead person.
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  31. os75 i know more about islam than you do, you moron. 90% of muslims havent even read their own qur'an, and i have. fuck off with your "check your privilege" bollocks. what i say is either accurate or it isnt, and you are not even attempting to show otherwise.
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  32. The BeardedChemist says the addled moron that still believes in the same magic wizard as his parents, a magic wizard that rewards credulous people with a magic wonderland with rivers of honey and milk. fuck off, you imbecile. your parents just happened to have picked the right religion when they were brainwashing you with it when you were a child, yeah, sure - believe that bollocks as well. dont call people "ignorant idiots" when you believe in laughable anti-scientific nonsense like religion.
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  33. The BeardedChemist you can tell what religion someone is by where they were born, or what race they are. religion is a pyramid scheme in which bullshit is brainwashed from parents to children. you are a butthurt arab on a video about halal. you are a muslim and have been ever since your stupid parents decided you were. i know that with certainty. almost makes it seem like religion is bullshit, doesnt it?
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  34. agnostic what? you arent telling me anything about what you believe, you are merely stating an epistemic qualifier. you dont even know what agnostic means you fucking idiot. read a damn book.
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  35. The BeardedChemist clueless idiot. anyone with the first clue about basic epistemology and basic logic understands that it is a true dichotomy to state that either someone believes in god, or it is not true that someone believes in god. theist or atheist.  if you believe in god, you are a theist. anything else, you are an atheist. agnosticism/gnosticism is about knowledge. atheism/theism is about belief. if you answer "do you believe" with "i lack knowledge", you have not answered the question and are displaying a child-level understanding of the issues. read a damn book, you fucking idiot. seriously. this is too easy to see through. you sound like this is your first time ever talking about these issues. "i am agnostic". read a fucking book you simpleton.
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  36. The BeardedChemist you joined the thread with nothing more than "what an ignorant idiot", embarrassed yourself by continuing to accuse of ignorance while repeatedly demonstrating a kindergarten-level understanding of basic epistemology, and then defaulted to laughable mumbled drivel that a child would scrawl. thinking i look better than you do, you fucking buffoon. been sitting staring at this thread for the past 10 minutes? exactly my point. shave your fucking beard you mug.
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  37. The BeardedChemist thats much better. almost makes you seem like youre not about to jump off a fucking bridge, but it does now have the effect of making you seem like an extremely butthurt and desperate creep, the sort that actually does have semen residue around his room.  i prefer this to the old you, anyway. keep trying and youll get there. i still recommend actually reading a fucking book soon, though. P.S. thumbing up your own comments further adds to the appearance of desperation - so you should try to ditch that habit. oh, you didnt know i could see that you did that? embarrassing.
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  38. Azim Nazlen "I was taught that if we did it with our own hand it shows respect to the animals." animals dont care about whether we respect them. they cant tell. you could dress an animal up in nice clothes and put perfume on it and it wouldnt give a shit. "And cutting of the veins in the neck will prevent pain." been debunked as garbage i dont know how many times.
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  39. arif kadir the qur'an and hadith both exist. i believe they exist. but like all holy books, they are bullshit. full of myths and falsities. 
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  40. Azim Nazlen the same can be said about harry potter. who gives a shit?
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  41. Jinxum E jesus probably never even existed, he was a composite character if he did. he died 2000 years ago anyway. dead people dont love.
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  42. Azim Nazlen "sorry but what part of Harry potter is true?" you want examples? most of it. plenty of it. the basic laws of thought hold true in harry potter. harry potter is merely a fictional version of the real world, just like the mythological world portrayed in the qur'an. "And 10 000 000 people around the world actually "give a shit".Myself including." the mindless religious people that were brainwashed into caring about it, care about it - great. tell the rest of us why we should.
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  43. Jinxum E he still loves me, even though he doesnt exist. right.
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  44. Azim Nazlen tu quoque logical fallacy that has already been rebutted. next time, read the thread and make sure you are saying something original.
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  45. Azim Nazlen asking the only person that brings actual educated arguments to a discussion to educate themselves, absolutely smacks of ridiculousness and looks really fucking stupid. it doesnt work. try something else.
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  46. Azim Nazlen i am the only judge of who i think deserves to be alive and who i think should use food and oxygen. him killing himself means someone less miserable and useless can take his place. nobody cares about him.
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  47. Azim Nazlen i am not deciding what is barbaric, and i couldnt care less what you think you know.  the evidence says what the evidence says. deal with it.
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  48. Azim Nazlen "You have almost no evidence." i have the same amount of evidence that the experts do, i just look at it when i make my conclusions, you dont. you prefer to defer to superstitious onsense. "No right too decide fate of another,or there worth." im not doing that. thats what you believe your fictional god does. i am stating what i think their fate should be and what i think their worth is based on the information they provide about themselves when they choose to spew absolute bollocks.  "Almost your the least qualified person to do so.And you deal with people who trust this method of slaughtering animals." you need to work on making sense.   "Just accept some people prefer this way than your way and get on with your life." i obviously have accepted that if i am openly addressing and contradicting those people. you seriously need to work a bit more on learning how to make sense. "I might turn the other cheek on your opinion on slaughtering animals,but not when you litterally try to decide ones worth to live." this is fucking gibberish.
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  49. Azim Nazlen "the last thing I said means Right now I don't care of you opinion on the slaughtering of animals(that has spawned this whole flame war)." good for you. i dont provide opinions. i provide evidence-based conclusions. if you think it is just my opinion that ritual slaughter is unnecessary sadism and cruelty, you havent been paying attention or cannot read properly. "But when you commented about that persons worth to live,I know that is wrong and I commented that you cant say that." i already did. "Any good judge looks for the evidence. there not just give one fraction of it and then jump to conclusion  on the value of ones worth to live." based on the available evidence, the person is a worthless piece of shit and should kill themslves. "And the god I beleive in is all knowing and the all wise.of course My god has the complete right to tell the worth of a person because My god has all the peices of the puzzle.While you only have have a peice by one confrontation." non-sequitur. if we accept this, then no human is capable of making any conclusions based on anything as they are not omniscience. absolute nonsense. "So,no you don't have as much evidence as the experts do." of course i fucking do. i already told you i do, because i do. i have the exact same fucking evidence. "And concerning the part when you accepted others opinion by confronting about it,it doesn't seem like it because you call this way bad and people are stupid too practice this method.That is not accepting,that is hating." and this is more gibberish.
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  50. Azim Nazlen "Now you just denying.When you just killed someone an another person said you shouln't do that and you anwer is "I can because i just did"" absolute gibberish. you asserted that i could not do it. i pointed out that i already had. deal with it. "They would clasify you as psycopath." you cant even spell it, you mug. "Ans just saying you have the evidence doesn't mean you have them." correct. what you are ignoring in order to state that banal piece of rubbish is the fact that you are posting on a 300-comment long thread and apparently have read none of it.  "Your denying you don't have enough evidence to judge ones worth to live." and you are denying that anyone that is not omniscient can ever make any judgement. "And the last thing I want to coment to you it that.My god is the most qualified,that doesn't mean we can't get at least close to the right judgement.But you are the least qualified.with only one peice of a personality file." a lot can be intuited from internet dialogue. you for example do not have any higher  education accreditation and were brainwashed from birth into being in a cult. 
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