Comments by "Philip Rayment" (@PJRayment) on "‘Very hard’ for Labor to knock back religious freedom bill" video.

  1. "Catholicism says love your neighbour. Love your enemies. Turn the other cheek. Do not Judge. It's about the only religion that does this." The Bible says those things; not Catholicism. Catholicism is but one branch of Christianity.
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  2. It's not luck you need, but commitment (to God), and, I believe, support from many others.
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  3. "The religious grip that the coalition has held over australia has kept has in the dark ages" What dark ages? That concept has been rejected by historians. Western society in that period made considerable progress. Why do you think it's okay to kill innocent babies? Or innocent elderly people, for that matter? Gay and lesbian 'marriage' is a contradiction in terms. "overpopulation is killing our society " No, it's not. That claim was made decades ago, and has been shown to be wrong. "Banning abortions and euthanasia is literally taking the choice away from someone because of some person's religious ideology" Banning murders and rapes is also literally taking the choice away from someone. But as a society (with its roots in Christianity), we say that such choices are bad. Except when it comes to innocent babies.
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  4.  @alanbeasy1775  Excellent responses, Alan. Clear, logical, and to the point, unlike someone else's.
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  5.  J  "I'm afraid if schools charge for admittance they don't deserve any tax payer support what so ever. " Why? The parents of the students at those schools pay taxes, so why discriminate? "As far as employing only their own is concerned again no, you don't get to discriminate against people because you don't like them and expect tax payer's money." So you would also agree with the Labor Party being forced to accept Liberals on staff? "Oh but it is for me to judge im a tax payer any thing to do with tax payer's money is my business." Then it's also mine, and I'd rather my taxes go to a school that teaches good Christian values, not 'secular' (atheistic) values. "Oh and religion doesn't belong in schools period ..." Because you say so? "it's irrelevant" It's absolutely relevant. It was Christianity that laid the basis for Western Civilisation and the freedoms it has brought, that introduced universal education, public hospitals, that spread democracy, that elevated the status of women, that abolished slavery, and that founded modern science, among other things. Christian teaching is VERY relevant. "English science technology and trade training is all that should be taught." That that include naturalistic (atheistic) science? And if you're opposed to Christian views being taught, why teach science in the first place, given that it is based on Christian principles? "they are minority tax payer's and are thus irrelevant remember the majority rules." Nice to know that you think minorities are irrelevant. Well, atheists are still in a minority, so I guess they are irrelevant too. "No the majority of Australians don't support funding for private schools..." I'd be surprised if that's the case, but then with the deliberate misinformation put out there by those taking your view, I'm not sure that that's particularly relevant. "private schools shouldn't be getting tax payer's money..." Again, why not, given that many of those taxpayers send their children to private schools? "this line about teaching atheism is ridiculous..." It's not ridiculous. Government schools teach atheist ideas. The very idea of keeping God out of school is an atheist mantra. I think the problem is that you are so convinced that your views are self-evidently correct you fail to see that they are in fact just part of a particular (anti-Christian) worldview. "For your information religion ...[is] still offered today so their goes your theory." To what extent is it taught? Enough to balance the atheist views taught? "No I have a problem funding private schools who charge admittance..." But why? "do they follow the cariculim? Because every supporter who's been on sky says they want to continue to operate the way they want." I believe that they do follow the curriculum, but also teach their own values. "Because not everyone can afford to send their kids to those schools so their tax dollars shouldn't be funding schools for people who can afford it." What about the tax dollars of those who choose to send their children to those schools? Why discriminate against them? So sorry, but your explanation makes no sense. "I'm afraid quite a few bigots are Christians yes just look at your beliefs,..." Says someone who wants to treat Christian taxpayers differently because you don't agree with their views. " im afraid what you've said about teaching atheism shows what a lack of awareness you have about the world." The lack of awareness is yours, not his. He provided examples which you have ignored. "It's small minded thinking which I'm afraid seems to be a traight of Christians amongst others if something doesn't fit in your small minded view of the world you attack it." Says the person attacking the idea of religious schools receiving similar taxpayer support as government schools. A typical trait of village atheists. "Private schools don't deserve funding at all, it's fundamentally unfair to make people who can't afford it pay for others who can." No, it's fundamentally unfair to take taxes from all people then distribute it according to religious beliefs. And many people who send their children to religious schools couldn't afford it if they had to pay the full amount, while many who send their children to government schools could afford to send their children to private schools. "There's only one bigot here..." Well I agree with Alan, so that must mean that the one bigot is you. "it's the person who wants institutions to continue to be able to discriminate against people they don't like that would be you. " Sorry, you must have been looking in the mirror when you said that. That describes your views to a T. "…the vast majority of Australians don't agree with your opinions and one day the majority will be aithests it's nearly half now." Ah! A self-contradictory statement! The majority are not atheists, so it's them who don't agree with your views. "Your saying atheism is being taught in schools but you can't explain how,..." False. He gave actual examples, which you have ignored. "…even if it is being taught so what? It sounds like you want it your way or the highway." He never argued that. You're making that up. "Well your not getting it ..." Because you're not making a valid argument.
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  6.  @Circlotron  Loving your enemy does not mean letting him run rampant over you. There is no contradiction in Christians joining the military and taking part in a just war.
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  7.  J  "Australia has moved on." No, it's gone backward. "same sex marriage should have given you the hint..." Yes, that's an example of it going backward.
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  8. I'm not sure that goes far enough, and it only applies to the federal government in any case.
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  9. The Christian church. And Jesus, not the church, is the redeemer.
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  10. You're right, and that's why such bills will only go so far. The "problem" is that Australia (like the rest of the West) was founded on Christianity, so it's values 'rule'. That's the reason you reject cannibalism—because Christianity does.
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