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  1257. I appreciate your thoughts. I'm going to disagree on a few but overall they are well thought out. My problem with Billy Loomis hallucinations is that they are truly for the fans to say remember Billy, & are blatant fan service to the original. 2nd Billy wasn't innately a psychopath, he wanted revenge for the destruction of his family, so the idea that this girl is seeing bloody shirt Billy from the end of Scream because she could genetically be a killer is silly. The pay off when she "loses her mind" is a pay off in the weakest way. The reason I brought up race is because the Scream movies are about Hollywood trends specific but not limited to horror. A more diverse cast is a part of those trends, also a fear among writers to give minority characters flaws or to have them killed or make them villains, is also a trend. So when this movie has 3 minority characters survive multiple stab wounds & attacks & doesn't even comment on the trend much less attempt to subvert it, (Scream 2 opening scene mocks the black guy always dying scene 1) it's noticeable what isn't being said. Furthermore when you see that this is occurring it makes the killer(s) too obvious. This coulda been fixed by having Tara be the 3rd killer wanting revenge on the participants of the 1st movie because it destroyed her family OR by having the killer be related to Stu Macher, since he is greatly overshadowed by Billy & his family was destroyed. Distract us with Billy & move it to Stu. Or keep the radicalized by fans as the up front motivation then give us the personal Stu related 1 as the reveal to the other killer. Like Billy's personal connection. Billy's mother's personal connection etc. Some more thought than CGI monster face Billy woulda been nice
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  1428. Adnan's DNA wasn't found on a pair of dress shoes in her car. No evidence she wore those that day & all the other DNA testing on her clothes worn that day were inconclusive. Touch DNA wasn't known to exist in 1999 so nothing was preserved for it. It also degrades in 28 days outside her body was not found for a month & it was outside. Adnan's story changed more than Jay's & in more key points. Adnan told the cops THAT DAY he asked Hae for a ride, now he says he didn't he was once going to present ana alibi that he was at the Mosque now he says he wasn't, now he is saying he doesn't remember anything specific. Adnan claims he decided after talking to Stephanie to go to Jay's house to ensure Jay who was dating Stephanie got her a present. Jay says Adnan planned to kill her. Jay told his friend Jen THAT DAY that Adnan strangled Hae, she was only missing for a few hours, yet Jay & this girl Jen both knew she was dead & how she was killed. Another girl was told Hae was dead THAT DAY. So 2 people knew Hae was dead within hours of her going missing. The cops found her body a month later. No one disputes Adnan was with Jay that day not even Adnan. Now if you think the lack of Adnan's DNA on the dress shoes in her car is proof of innocence, then you must also believe that Jay is innocent even tho he knew key details of the crime THAT DAY & told people. Because Jay's DNA wasn't on the dress shoes in her car as well. So essentially Jay with no rhyme or reason, no way of knowing Hae was dead or the method of death, must've framed himself as an accomplice & Adnan as the killer? Come on
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  2008. I never said people need to get over slavery, I would never say that to someone who was actually enslaved. People should learn about it. The institution of slavery ended around 150 years ago in the United States, Civil rights was around 50 years ago. I'm fine with discussing the impact of past discrimination on certain groups of people too. However, if you claim racism or institutional racism is the cause of something, I need to see the racist or which institution is racist. If someone in this case the media is lying about something to make it seem racist when it's not, then I'll point that out too. As for Colin Kaepernick, he isn't & hasn't been good for a few seasons, he isn't the same player that he was in the 49ers Superbowl Season. His QBR last year was among the worst, the only thing keeping it above the absolute worst was his skills as a running QB. Running for a QB is not nearly as valuable as passing. If Kaepernick were better he'd have a team, & no one would really care about his kneeling. That being said there are a small number of teams that aren't any better than him at QB that are factoring in the kneeling in their decision process & I think that's nonsense. My position is if you think he can help you win or improve your team, & the only thing deterring you is his kneeling, then I'm against that, because you're job as a GM is to make your team better. In my opinion it's a mixture of him not being good & the protest, but it's mostly him not being that good, because you can kill someone & play if you're a star
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  2257. The reason I don't go into Fennell's after the fact crimes is due to 3 things 1 that is the dominant narrative, 2. time the video would be way longer & 3. Relevance, Fennell's raping a woman 10 years later isn't relevant because if Fennell was the killer then there's no rape component to the case. It sounds relevant because Reed is accused of rape but that's due to his semen being found on her, this is also why I focused on Reed's relevant sexual assault history & didn't harp on the 12 year old. Because the similar cases show a pattern of behavior the 12 year old that Reed also raped was too different from the Stites case to be relevant in my opinion. As for the 2 cops who died, one died by getting shot by a migrant worker on the job, the other was the suicide that people are very suspicious about & that is used to attach to Wardlow. The problem with that other than the conspiracy to frame Reed now having more bodies than make sense to cover for a cop is that Wardlow ordered DNA samples from the dead to compare & that renewed suspicion of the cops. One of the major problems with the conspiracy theory is that it relies on the idea that people throughout the investigation are corrupt in some areas but in other areas they're taken as gospel. Wardlow is considered corrupt for the suicide that according to the conspiracy theory is a murder, but since he at the time assumed the death was related to guilt in the Stites case his notes & work as an investigator from the time are used as the source of innuendos about the suicide. So is he trust worthy or not? This is the problem with the case for Reed's innocence, it's an ever expanding list of people, & bodies, & sources of info that aren't trustworthy until they are trustworthy
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  4449. +wesley sales thank you, this is a well thought out comment. DeRay isn't a TYT contributor , though, he's considered a thought leader in BLM like Shaun King, who is a TYT contributor. DeRay is the idiot who said that one of the characters in the most recent Planet of the Apes movie was designed to be like him. I agree with you on the Military weapons shouldn't be sold to law enforcement. And for the record my point was that this case doesn't have, or won't have the staying power. I'm very concerned about police brutality/police power. Aside from the race baiting etc. I think my number 1 criticism of BLM is that they pulled focus away from the issue of brutality, to specifically police killings of unarmed black people. There's only between 900-1000 people killed by a police officer in any given year. Most are white, but for arguments sake lets say 450 are black. About 90% of all people killed by police are armed (or appear armed) which includes guns, knifes, fake guns that look real or whatever. So now we're down to 45 cases of unarmed black people killed to discuss. Of those 45 some are definitely bad or unjust killings, Eric Garner, the guy shot in the back in SC. Some are in a grey area, Castille, who shouldn't have been shot, but it was a split second decision after the officer heard gun & misinterpreted getting the wallet for reaching. & some involve behavior that can be reasonably deemed threatening. My point is that these 45 are slim pickings, especially if you're trying to show a systemic problem. By comparison, we used to get a daily police brutality video, of different races, homeless people, the mentally ill, etc. But those more frequent situations, that are clear cut, on video, are sidelined because of the narrowing of the issue. I genuinely believed BLM was going to push the issue of police brutality over the top, because we had already started to bipartisan support for reform. But I judge a tree by its fruits, & that has not happened, BLM has decreased the chances of reform by misrepresenting cases to fit the narrowed focus they created.
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  6585. Wow so I just rewatched the clip because I uploaded this video months ago, & your point is so irrelevant its amazing. I played the part of the clip where Cenk said it was a violation of the law. So the idea that I was concealing that fact (which is completely irrelevant to the video) is just nonsense. Again I didn't lie, at all, pathetic attempt to prove so on your part. As for the Federal law point, I messed up. It's in Federal Court. Nobody is arguing for special rights, it's the right to refuse service. In this case it's based on religious reasons. Nothing in the Constitution compels private actors to do so. & the case is testing precedent from the Civil rights act related cases. All I said in my video is that some guy not wanting to provide a service is not equivelant to a state actor censoring speech. Also don't pretend to be some kind of a hero, you can't contest an actual point in my video, so you drummed up some allegations about me ommiting some relelevant information, when clearly I left the part in where Cenk said it's against the law. I get this crap all the time. I can't run his whole video due to time/copyright reasons, so I edit clips without changing the overall point. If you're going to claim I took something out of context, you actually have to demonstrate where I altered what he was saying. The point of my clip was that he was bringing up unrelated issues (problem B) & conflating them with a clear cut Constitutional issue. His examples (The NFL, & gay cakes) involved private businesses, not a government funded or run organization censoring speech. Those are not equivalant.
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  7342. +Thaddeus Walker I wasn't trying to put the phrase in your mouth, merely stating the fact that Issac was presenting an argument about consistency that supports a notion of animal rights. I wasn't trying to corner you just state clearly, the fact that underpinning of was argument is rights based. & that after a rights based argument fails, he shifts to suffering based. Now that we agree on the logical structure, the onus is back on me to counter the suffering point effectively. Now the fact that you're passionate about how you feel about this & have health justifications is perfectly fine. I never intended to dispute them. You feel the way you feel, & I'm no expert on the health aspect. However I responded to an ethical challenge. Feelings aren't ethics, & health isn't ethical. My position isn't that veganism is wrong, nor do I say veganism is unhealthy, or even that it is less healthy than a meat eating diet. I'm perfectly fine with conceding that a vegan diet is both on average healthier, & when balanced properly, healthier than a diet meat eaters consider balanced. I could explain why health doesn't equal ethics, in a super quick way but since you never made that claim, I won't bother. My only goal in engaging in this debate is to advocate for sound ethical reasoning. I don't want to convert any vegans to meat eaters, I only wish to dispute the consistency of this line of reasoning. Thank you for all your feedback, I can see that you're passionate about this, but I appreciate the fact that you kept coming back with an open enough mind, to eventually see my position.
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  7343. Well you did not refute it in a way that's internally consistent. You said, (paraphrasing)feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, that the deaths involved in meat eating are unnecessary, due to the fact that humans don't need meat to survive. I responded, by giving this example: the deaths involved in wheat agriculture are unnecessary because humans do not need wheat to survive. My logic follows perfectly, in the exact same way Issac's does when someone brings up any trait. For example intelligence. This is exactly Issac's counter, if it's okay to kill a pig for food because of it's lack of intelligence, than it follows that it's okay to kill a human that has the intelligence of a pig. The meat eater says yes to the first, & no to the second, & thus a double standard is formed. Right now by saying no to the deaths involved in meat consumption but yes to the deaths involved in wheat consumption you have created a double standard, thus despite your disagreement with meat eaters you are logically aligned with them. By contrast despite my disagreement with Issac, we are both using the same logic, thus Issac & I are aligned in terms of argumentation. Now you say you're throwing passion, and not making arguments, yet you continue to make faulty arguments. Finally, you claimed I was using the false dichotomy fallacy which is not true. I only took the debate to it's most rational & fair conclusion. If animal rights is the issue, then I demonstrated that animal rights are violated in both scenarios. So if you still have an ethical issue, after I demonstrated that, then your issue must be because of something else. The deaths in caused in the production of meat as opposed to wheat (wheat is just an example) are the same in terms of a right to life based argument. However, if you take scale into account, the number of deaths in the meat industry far out number the animal deaths in agriculture. So when I say the argument from ethical vegans is now a suffering based one, I don't say that as a trick, in order to pigeon hole you. I say it because it's the only rational conclusion. So what Issac & any other ethical vegan would say at this point is, a meat based diet objectively causes more suffering than a plant based diet, therefore veganism is ethically superior to meat eating. That's all I am saying when I state that an ethical vegan argues more suffering = less moral, & less suffering = more moral. Now can you, or can you not see that my reasoning is sound, if you can't then watch the Issac, & Vegan Gains debates, I'm not making this up, they truly do argue this point.
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  7345. Issac's question has two aims, to prove a logical inconsistency, & to lay the case for animal rights. He claims that is illogical to kill animals in situations where you wouldn't kill a human. He asks you to name the trait that would make this work logically. This is a rights argument. Killing someone not in self defense is murder, & this is wrong because murder is a violation of a person's right to life. You're saying this is true, but if your need to survive is present, "necessity" then you can kill an animal. That's not logically consistent, with a rights argument, unless you think it makes sense for someone who needs a transplant, to kill someone else for their organs. Because "needs" do not outweigh rights. However, in a similar situation, you'd say the needs of the human outweigh the rights of the animal. Now the onus is on you to explain the difference, that if true of humans would permit the killing of them to harvest their organs. Now when you talk about things that are "unnecessary" vs "necessary" you are now into another subjective illogical argument. You say just because you can kill an animal for food doesn't make it necessary, & your justification is that we as humans don't need meat in our diets. The reason this doesn't follow is because I could argue that when you kill animals in wheat production, that too is "unnecessary" because gluten free people prove that you don't need wheat in your diet to survive. So again, your logic does not follow. Now for the millionth time, your last ethical argument is the "reduces suffering" argument. Because now that rights have been eliminated as logically inconsistent, & necessary vs unnecessary have also been eliminated as inconsistent. You are now making the case that because the meat eating diet causes more suffering than the plant eating diet, the vegan diet is morally superior. This is the only ethical case you have left my friend. I'd love to address it, as soon as you accept that this is your moral argument. Also the reason I put "overpopulation" in quotes is due to the history behind human related, overpopulation claims. They've all been wrong every single time, so when you use a myth as reasoning, it's going to be put in quotes.
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  7348. +Thaddeus Walker I never claimed necessity was a standard, because it's ridiculous. I did say killing an animal for food, would be meeting a greater need than mowing a lawn. The reason necessity doesn't fly is 2 fold, 1 if you're arguing about rights necessity doesn't trump rights, I need food, but if I take a gun & walk into a supermarket, & murder everyone present, it's just as much of a crime, if I did so for money & that excluses the fact that money also could fall under "necessity." Furthermore I could make the argument as I did with the lawn, that if you don't need it to survive, than it's not a necessity, this is also true of developing particular farmland, you don't "need" any specific crop, nor do you "need" any specific piece of land for agriculture, so converting land falls out of the necessity category. You believe, it's okay to massacre a bunch of people who don't respect property rights if they're "over populated." Neither of these follow, but just to be clear that would theoretically give me the ability to massacre any "collective" or group of communists, as long as it fufills my "need" for food. Furthermore, it would also be acceptable to kill any animal for food, because no animals comprehend private property, & I could. Or an objective body, could deem their presence to be too great (over populated) So if according to you the right to live is based on the practice of respecting property rights then no animal has the right to live. If rights are based on overpopulation, or more accurately perceived overpopulation in a certain area, then you're point about rights doesn't hold at all unless you accept the premise that it's okay to Massacre people in India or China based on your feelings about overpopulation. Because if you look at the history of overpopulation theory, it is consistently proven to be a myth for humans, due to adaptability. So whether it's one, or both, in tandem your arguments not applicable to killing humans but is applicable to kill any animal. Finally the reason your necessity argument doesn't follow is because your necessity argument is not a rights argument. The necessity argument is an argument for reducing suffering. As I've shown in my example it would not be okay for me to murder human just because I needed something that human had. And if you feel like the convenience store example doesn't really work, then let's say I needed a transplant of a heart or some other organ. If I follow your reasoning that necessity somehow overrides the right to life, then it I would be morally justified in killing somebody for their organs as long as I needed it. Furthermore if the trait that makes it okay to kill humans for violating your rights (in this case property rights) is their capacity to respect them. I would agree, if the same was true of animals it would be okay to kill them. But it's not true of animals, so by your logic & the logic of the structure, it is not okay to kill animals who eat your crops. Much in the same way people who are mentally deficient to the point where they can't understand right & wrong, aren't killed/punished for their crimes. If you have to have a rational thinking brain to have your rights violated, then you still have no rights based reason for killing animals that endanger your crops. Again you're making a suffering argument not a rights one. I'll address the suffering point, as long as you acknowledge that the one that you're making.
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  7349. Thaddeus Walker I didn't talk about necessity, & if you're not making an ethical argument then we now have moved on to a different subject, that I never brought up. Next you did not refute my point by stating your car accident example or your war example. You have to compare like with like. If you recklessly kill a human in a car accident, that's considered involuntary manslaughter. But you're perfectly fine with farmers recklessly or intentionally killing animals to grow crops. Secondly your war point doesn't wash either, sure you can kill invading humans who threaten your life, that's self defense, & by extension you can kill animals that are an imminent threat to your life because that's also self-defense. The standard is solid there. However if tomorrow, someone decided that they were going to repurpose land for agriculture, but in order to do so they'd have to massacre a tribe, that currently lives off that land, that would be wrong. Conversely killing the animals, destroying their habitats, then continuously gassing returning animals to protect those crops, would be considered an appropriate cost. This does not follow if you take up the position of animal rights. Now that I have currently laid out the premise appropriately, the onus is on you to name the trait present in those animals that if true of humans would make it ok for you to gas them? You cannot justify this while maintaining the position that animals have rights, mainly the right to live. Now if we are having an ethical argument, and you were arguing in good faith, based on reason. Your only choice when confronted with this inherent inconsistency in a vegan's animal rights argument, would be to pivot from rights to reducing suffering. Now if you don't want to have an ethical argument, that's cool, by the challenge video is based on ethics, & I'm going to debate somebody based on ethics.
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