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I think it is a mistake, to assume that the bit is the only way to control a horse. Spanish riding traditional uses what is called a hackamore. A woven strip of rawhide encircles the horses muzzle. Pressure on the muzzle, controls the horse.
In modern times, the people of Mongolia ride horses very similar to ancient horses. Very short, and very stocky. The argument that short and stocky horses would not be an advantage, is somewhat ridiculous.
Training a wild horse, without the use of a previously trained horse, is nigh impossible. However, if a young foal were captured, after the killing of its mother, it would be quite easy to train that horse. Very much in the same way that wolf puppies we're probably trained, to be domestic companions.
I think that modern archaeologists have a tendency to belittle the abilities of ancient peoples. It is important to remember that they were every bit as smart as we are. To say that early peoples were not capable of doing what we do all the time, shows a tremendous amount of hubris. If they were eating horses, they had access to foals. If they had access to foals, then they had access to rideable mounts.
Personally, I believe that domestication occurred very early. However, archaeological proof of such domestication would be unlikely to survive. This is why we have not found walrus skin boots, from ancient times. But that's another topic, entirely.
Enjoyed the video. Keep it up
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Hello Dan! Greetings from Sibiu (Romania)! Tărtăria-Gura Luncii, Alba county ( the infamous incised clay tablets, with symbols, were discovered here in 1961-the autumn campaign, by prof. Nicolae Vlassa-long story...), is indeed a complex prehistoric archaeological site (in recent studies there were identified elements of fortifications-ditches and palisade postholes-Luca 2016, „Tărtăria Rediviva”). Now, I'm studying for a master's degree at „Lucian Blaga” University of Sibiu (Department of History and Heritage Studies). The main subject of my Bachelor Thesis was about lithic industry (polished/ground and knapped stone tools) from Tărtăria. In 2021 and 2022 (summer campaigns), I have taken part in archaeological excavations here and I can assure all of you that, Vinča female clay figurines, are very THICC ;)!!!
I'm pleased to see, that there is interest for the complex Neo-Eneolithic cultures in this part of Europe! Your high-quality documentaries contributed a lot to my passion for prehistory, so keep up the good work.
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Many years ago, when I was a little girl of 6 or 7, my father visited an old farmer (West Jutland, Denmark). I think it was to keep me busy so the adults could talk without my interference that this old man took me to two wooden chests that stood on the floor and opened one of them.
It was filled to the brim with “funny” stones, and he explained that they were different tools. I asked who had made them and he replied "your great-grandfathers, thousands of years ago". I can so vividly remember this exact moment; I was so fascinated that I hesitated to touch these stone tools, and when I did, I felt a strange sense of comfort by holding something my “great-grandfathers” had made.
To this day, when I pass burial mounds or stone dolmens, I feel an urge to touch. I have observed that many others do the same, some people even give old stone tombs gentle pats.
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@DanDavisHistory yes, our dances can be very slow and the bodies extremely close and interwoven, but also very fast, often the two are alternated. They are used for everything, literally. I find it fascinating too how humans can preserve such traditions but on the other hand, they are so powerful and primal, it's difficult to let them go. Btw, it's the same with the figurines. I know of so many ways of using figurines in healing, weather spells or personal spells/rituals in Bulgaria, that it just irks me to hear how little is considered in modern science.
Btw, huge thank you for your videos and research and the beautiful way you present everything.
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I ride bareback and without a bit all the time, you don't control a horse with a bit, you control them with their nose. Its not impossible to ride without. Maybe for someone who doesn't know horses. I also ride a dominant mare, the head mares are worth their weight in gold, she was search and rescue. Bought her for about 500$ and learned to ride on a dominant male gelding, and gentled the ex stud in my profile pic. I have some quams with the experts, I actually went to school for equine studies, and have lots of yeses and nos. I recommend looking up mustang makeover contestants if you really wanna learn about the wild ones. Bits also predate the wheel, riding did come first, I remember that test question in My equine history class very well. It was stirrups that were the HUGE game changer. Mongolia and Kahastekstan were the first to domesticate and did it around the same time. Many native tribes in rhe US favored mares for their overprotectiveness and willingness to defend their riders. Mares, and horses in general will lay down their life for you. Mules and donkeys, to the 11th degree. Even though we originally domesticated for food, they're mankind's most underrated and misunderstood MVP. Horses originated in North America, migrated, and died off, but continued to live everywhere else
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So called “p___s sheaths” have been documented being used all over the globe, and they are worn styled in a variety of angles, depending on culture. One could even consider the late medieval and early modern “codpiece” which was often styled erect, and even styled in tumescent form in steel armor, as being a relevant example.
One reasonable possibility that would connect to the phenomenon you describe would be that Bronze Age Scandinavians used erect codpieces as items of warlike clothing, and so they would literally “gird up their loins for war” by putting one of these on when they were fully prepared for combat. Treating a sheath or codpiece of this sort as showing that someone was fully prepared for war would serve the cultural purpose of encouraging warrior champions to “fight fair” to at least some degree, in an environment when raiding was common, and it would also serve a narrative purpose in rock art and other visual portrayal distinguishing between champion combat or pitched battle where everyone was ready for battle, and other sorts of combat and violence in a maritime raid, or distinguishing between a champion in armor and his young ‘squire.’
A man who was surprised by raiders early in the morning might well have time to grab a spear without really being prepared for combat, or a man who was surprised while working in his fields might well have had an axe or dagger or both, but still be far less capable of defending himself than he would have been if he had time to put on armor. Overcoming an unprepared man would not show off your skills and bravery to the same degree, and so a brave man would have reason to distinguish between this kind of combat, while a man who feared being murdered in his bed by raiders would have practical reasons for wanting to grant more honor and respect to the warrior who fought prepared opponents.
If the Battle of Tollense Valley is anything to go by, there was probably a really wide variation in the range of weapons and armor that a warrior might have to deal with, and so just using a specific type of armor or weapon to show warrior status, or the degree to which a warrior was prepared would be problematic. There might well have been warriors who did not wear armor for example, or warriors who wore bone, wood or leather armor, and at the extremes of “no protective clothing” there is a great difference between killing a young Koryos warrior fighting in a berserk rage in pitched battle, and slaying a man as he flees naked from the arms of his wife in a night raid. Wearing the ‘codpiece of battle’ and depicting this in art would tend to clarify the difference.
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Great doc Dan. The terminology for longbarrows and related tombs is a nightmare minefield. Even in Britain the terms barrow, cairn, howe, tomb and dolmen are used interchangeably, and that's just among academics! Now that scholarship is even more international, it makes it even more confusing. While we took the Breton word "dolmen" for smaller megalithic tombs, or the stone tomb sections of large longbarrows, in Brittany itself dolmen is used just for freestanding small chambers and sometimes for the elongated versions of these which are intermediary between the small dolmens and later large passage tombs, but sometimes they are called Allée couverte (covered alleys) whereas the larger tombs are either called tertre or tumuli - not consistently - but tertre is supposed to be a type of Neolithic barrow that is more round, according to some, yet for eg. the Kerlescan Tumulus is also known as the tertre du Manio and yet it is described by British archaeologists as a "long barrow" since at least 1868!! Here in UK we can be sure that no one will call for eg. Maeshowe a longbarrow, but it seems to me as much like one as some of the things on the continent that get called such.
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I raised a dog from the age of 7. We hunted and we herded cattle together. When I was 19, my dog slipped on ice, fell beneath a visitor’s tires and sustained a painfully crippling injury. My dad and I drove through a blizzard at night to a vet. My dog whimpering, screaming. I carried him in. I held him during the injection. I carried his limp body back to the van. We drove home. We told my mom and sister who burst into tears. I wanted to bury him that night. So, Dad and I drove to the highest point on our farm. It commanded no view in the blizzard and dark. We cleared away snow. We broke through frozen earth to the loose soil beneath and dug deeply. We placed him and covered him. My dad in broken voice saying, “He was a good dog”. Returning home I went to my room. Lay down and finally permitted myself just one tear. One. (At that time I thought this manly virtue, not repression).
Those boys were well practiced at killing. Having witnessed the slaughter of steers from my toddlerhood, hunted and sometimes killed sick animals, I’m confident they were fine with killing. I believe these boys were bearing the responsibility of manhood. Hands steady, their strike sure. No hesitation. What greater shame than two strikes? What betrayal to the dog if I must strike twice. What a burden of shame and guilt to not follow through and do it right. If you can’t do right by your dog their is no man to be found in you. Your dog fears death no more than napping. But aged with muscles stiff, eyes graying and easily winded; what troubles the dog is not being able to keep up with you; For to be with you in hunting and herding and feasting is All to them. When the time comes, a man does what he must. The old men know. As I chew the roasted flesh, my faithful companion and joyful servant joins my life as a man. My dear dog, what greater honor there may be, I am not worthy to offer. You gave all. May I be worthy of thee. I shall remember you even as I do my duty. These men knew fate called on them to give their life. They would go to their fate as willingly and gracefully as their dogs. And If fate should call on them to a strike a mercy killing of father, brother or friend, they would.
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Wow. Every time I start thinking I have a half-decent grasp of what was going on in the ancient world, I get a nice surprise like this. I'd love to see more like this, only about other somewhat isolated places. It's fascinating, how long-lasting cultures change over time, due to changes in environment or contact with outsiders. Cultures that manages to retain their identity, despite outside groups invading, always amaze me. I've paid too much attention to the larger, more powerful civilizations;, and not enough to the ones that didn't go out and conquer all their neighbors. How many other cultures have I ignored? No idea, but I'm getting more interested lately.
I can't think of the name of the islands in the Atlantic that I'm thinking of, but I've been seeing videos about them popping up recently. Until those appeared in my feed, I'd barely remembered those islands existed...and no idea that they'd been inhabited for thousands of years. Humans seem to have gotten to just about any inhabitable land you can name, long enough ago that we barely know anything at all about them. I think it would be interesting to do a sort of survey of all these little places, especially the ones that haven't been studied extensively.
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The Yamnaya are derived from the Khvalynsk Culture and earlier Samara Cultures along the Volga River to the lower Ural Mountains. Horse scepters are found in the Khvalynsk Culture as well as rich horse burials. Although the Khvalynsk Culture did not domesticate the horse, it is likely the horse was revered as scepters, or staffs are signs of power. Horses have always been expensive and only the elite could afford to maintain them as well be trained to use them in warfare. Samara Culture has horse burials as well. Obviously, this would be a sign of respect or reverence for the animal versus just using it as a meat source. R1b is typical of Samara, Dneiper-Donets, Late Repin, or Khvalynsk Cultures. Interestingly, R1b is found in proto-Tocharian cultures farther to the east. R1a is predominantly found in Corded Ware Culture as well the back migration of Corded Ware to Arkaim-Sintashta Culture. I find it interesting that Nordic Mythology has a lot of similarities with Rig Veda or Hindu mythologies as well as R1a being more common in India and Iran than in Wales, Ireland, Scotland, Spain, France, and northern Italy. R1b is mostly found today with Bashkirs (near the homeland of R1b between the Volga and Ural Rivers) and Western Europe.
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Thank you so much for your hard work, Dan. Your videos are especially relevant for the quotes you give from ancient texts, like this one 0:13 "From the city of Nipur an inscription on the pedestal of a statue erected by Sargon, says the following, 'Sargon, king of Akkad, overseer of Inanna, king of Kish, anointed of Anu, king of the land, governor of Enlil, he defeated the city of Uruk and tore down its walls. In the battle of Uruk he won, took Lugal Zaghezy, king of Uruk, in the course of the battle and led him in a collar to the gate of Enlil.'"
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Freyr, in his role as a fertility god, is also often represented with an erect phallus. As well as the obvious reasons for such, there is also the interesting concept of his relation to an older period in Nordic culture. It has often been theorised that the Vanir (Freyr, Freya, Njordr etc.) and the Aesir (Odin, Thor etc.) going to war, may be as a result of newer ideas entering into the Nordic sphere. The clash of a more warlike ideology in the Aesir, with the more Naturally based Vanir. The Aesir won out, perhaps resulting in the warrior based culture we are familiar with in 'Vikings', ahead of perhaps the hunter and pastoral culture of the past.
But Freyr's appearance, and the appearances of the men in these petroglyphs, may point out a period in which fertility symbols associated with masculinity, combined with the warlike nature of the scenes may convey a time where these ideologies were in transition.
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Amazing documentary, Dan, as always. As a Spaniard, I never learned a single word about Drake as a kid in school; just, from the movies, that he was a pirate and a buccaneer. I was surprised by all the parallels between his circumnavigation of the world and that of the Magellan-Elcano (el Cano) expedition 60 years earlier. Both Drake and Magellan faced challenges to their command from high-born people in their armadas due in part to a lack of clarity as to the chain of command, both confronted this obstacle in the exact same spot, the Bay of San Julián, and both ended up eliminating the challengers to their authority (Magellan had two men executed, marooned other two). After the Pacific crossing, both reached the exact same islands, both had the exact same experience with the natives and both gave the island the exact same name! (Magellan called it Isla de los Ladrones: Island of Thieves). I wonder if Drake had available any chronicle of the Magellan journey (if I am not mistaken, Pigafetta’s account made the rounds in Europe) and he may have just confirmed the name he may have known Magellan gave the island. I also wonder if Drake encountered the same troubles with scurvy during the Pacific crossing as Magellan. No one knew about the effects of carrying citrus fruits on board at either time, right? Then, both expeditions stopped at Ternate and acquired great amounts of Clove... I was also surprised of how fast Drake travelled the Indian Ocean and made it back to Europe compared to el Cano (who took 5 months, although he lost the mizzenmast in a storm in Cape of Hope and also went out into the Atlantic to shake off Potuguesse pursuers from Cabo Verde). Both el Cano’s and Drake’s ships spent 3 years at sea, being both brand new when they started, so they must have been equally deteriorated by shipworm. I wonder how much ships and the art of navigation may have advanced in the intervening 60 years... neither one had steering wheel yet, which was introduced in the 1700’s... The whip-staff (or gooseneck? for the rudder?) appears around 1513 in Spain, so Magellan might have already had it in 1518, but I read descriptions in which they seem to have been steering with just the rudder arm (tiller?), as they did at the time of Columbus; by Drake’s time they must have all been fitted with the whip-staff... Although in many modern retellings of Magellan’s trip it is presumed that they used the common log to calculate speed, I believe in 1518 the device didn’t exist yet... but it probably did by the time of Drake... They both had quadrants but not Sextants or Octants (I ignore if the English also used astrolabes like the Castilians)... Regarding the Invincible Armada, I understand that the Castilians meant to bring their infantry on board in Flanders, but weren’t able because the English engaged them in the English Channel (as you describe) and the Dutch blocked access to the Flemish ports (considering the ultimate outcome, if the Castilian tercios had all been on board, they would have drowned and that would have really been a crippling blow to Spain’s grip on Europe). From what I read, after several gunnery exchanges both armadas ran out of ordnance, but while the English were able to re-ammunition in their own coasts, the Castilians were cut off from Spain by the English fleet and from their Flemish safe harbor by the Dutch and became sitting ducks. If the English had previously been hard pressed to penetrate the Castilian hulls, they were now able to fire at a much closer range; then, as you describe, when the Castilians attempted to flee around Scotland and Ireland to save their ships, their armada was shipwrecked by storms. In Spain, of course, we emphasize how few ships were lost to enemy fire and how many to the storms :)
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In my opinion those exquisite head gear is all about the recognition of the user.
They were all covered by theyr shields an even helmets, so visible head gear would make easy to identifie each individual in the field.
Early Bronze Age was the time in witch the "Warrior Nobility" idea seems to have originated in the Mediterranean region, so, being recognized while doing some great deeds in battle could be vital to theyr cultural and social stuctures.
Also, receiveing some "divine assistance" would never be turned down, so, they would honor the gods by briging a simbol assossiated with them to battle.
Like it was for the samurai, a warrior nobility that rised in Japan much later, that used those crazy "Kabuto" helmets, some of wich had Shinto, Buddhist and, at least one that I have seen, Christian simbols.
OBS.: the last one I have only seen one picture on-line, no references associated to it, so I don't know if it is true or a fake one.
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This is what i found in my notes on the Dog Star:
to pruzz. sari = embers; pol. zar = glow, passion; thrak. sartas = bright red; perhaps heth. jarri = plague god;
oldnorth. surt, sutur (supposedly from svart = black, but actually from *ser-) = fire giant;
Greek seirios = the burning one; Ital. sera, serata = evening(red); skr. sura = light being;
from idg. *ser- = red, reddish, glow; urvew. idg. *ker- = to burn; thus the "glowing one" or "the reddish burning one".
The star Sirius had in the Middle Ages still a reddish coloring (documented by a manuscript of Gregory of Tours) and was called Lokabrenna "Lokis Brand" in Iceland.
Sirius, according to the Iliad (22,30), brings the fiery blaze and is called (11,62) the corrupting star.
The Riddle of the Edda vol.2 p.180
"Surt comes from the south with scorching embers; ...") (Völuspa 39.)
The same root is present in one of the names for the goddess of the dawn but with a positive meaning:
* SERATTA (my reconstruction of the name)
to Celt. sirona = dawn (supposedly from stirona = star); avest. Ardvi Sura Anahita = dawn; germ. freyja syritha (supposedly from sy ritha = sow rider, probably folk etymological. from *syr = glow); pruzz. sari = embers; thrak. sartas = bright red; pol. zar = glow, passion; Greek. seirios = the burning one; Ital. sera, serata = evening (red); osset. dserassa = dawn; skr. sarasvati = dawn, sura = light being; pashtu. sur = red; from idg. *ser- = red, reddish, glow; urvew. idg. *ker- = burn with the -ending *-atta = water;
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@DanDavisHistory Absolutely. On an unrelated note, and with much speculation and a lack of in depth knowledge, I'd suggest the factors contributing to Yamnaya spread and the rise of the Norsemen across Europe to be reminiscent of each other. Overpopulation due to a population boom, lack of women relative to the number of young of men, and technological improvements are probably shared factors in the expansion of both peoples.
Again, this is entirely the speculation of an unqualified individual, however I'd suggest the advent of horse riding and the rise of pastoralism probably contributed to an initial population boom, which even though the Yamnaya could now harness more calories from their land, were still unable to sustain themselves. If the Yamnaya were polygamous then to a young man, who could have been the second son of even a high status father, living directly after this population boom, there would be little to no chance of him attaining status or the means to live. The only option available was warfare. Perhaps it is under conditions like these that the Koryos as you know it came to be in the first place.
Before the advent of horse riding, Yamnaya would fight along the riverways and conflict would be constrained to a limited geographic area (as were the people themselves), the Koryos was the tool by which clans arranged hierarchy and status. However, with the rise of the horse, the Koryos was turned from a tool of equilibrium, to a weapon of subjugation and expansion which would see the Yamnaya and their descendants engage in a process that would seem them conquer the world thousands of years later.
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Hey Dan! Just wanted to say thank you for releasing such excellent, informative, and well-formed content that still has the clear narrative wit of an author behind it. Your investment of time into the history of the Indo-Europeans got me to reconsider going to college, and now, I'm working towards a Biological Anthropology degree, with the intent of focusing primarily on the history of Indo-European groups and their effects on latter cultures, as well as their origins. I hope to write a dissertation on the Cucuteni Trypilia culture, and the western Mediterranean origins of several of the Sea Peoples, two topics I've invested a ton more time doing personal research on since your videos sparked my curiosity. Anyways, I'll be buying Godborn very soon, and thanks again!
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I've been hearing all about the great empires - Rome, Greece, Babylon, Persia, Egypt, Mongols and so on my whole life. I love learning about those, but it's also great to hear about the ancient late Neolithic and Bronze Age cultures that came before these and gave birth to them. Things like videos on currency, weights and measures, and other mundane things that were a part of their lives help paint a picture of the entire culture and the people that make it up, not just their most famous members.
So yes please, do the weights and measures.
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Herodotus: "In winter when the rains ought to fall in Scythia, there is scarcely any rain worth mentioning, while in summer it never gives over raining; and thunder, which elsewhere is frequent then, in Scythia is unknown in that part of the year, coming only in summer, when it is very heavy. Thunder in the winter-time is there accounted a prodigy; as also are earthquakes, whether they happen in winter or summer." (Herodotus, Histories, book 4, passage 28).
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Thank you for such a full fascinating story of one of my Childhood heroes. I well remember our primary school teacher Mr Dunn telling us, "Sir Francis Drake, took gold from the Spanish Galleons, but he didn't really steal it because that gold had been stolen, by the Spanish from the native people, it didn't belong to the Spanish they had stolen it, so Francis Drake took it off them". "When he got home, the Spanish King complained to Elizabeth and she was going to punish him, but Sir Francis said he had taken to gold as a present for her, because she as Queen would know what to do with it, and so the Queen changed her mind"... I've remembered that all these years.
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I'm only halfway into this, but just had to take a pause to say how much I loved this story telling, and the feeling of adventure it gives me. I have to commend you for the beautiful illustrations, pictures, video, music and well spoken storytelling. Have you perhaps thought about writing non-fiction books, after having studied it to the depths? I would certainly not mind reading it, or rather listening to audio-books of it, preferably with you yourself as the narrator of it.
Great job Mr. Davis, looking forward to more, so changing the subscription to get notified for every new one.
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I was thinking, running with the idea that kingship in the Nordic Bronze Age was a diarchy, maybe similar to the Cherokee War Chief/Peace Chief system, so that the long horns could be reserved for the priest-king (magnificent, unwieldy, decorative), while the shorter horns were for the warrior-kings (tactical, battle-ready symbolism). Also, while I have you here, maybe the Minoan labrys is a symbolic, regionally stylized version of the 'wielding two axes' thing? Fun stuff!
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Greetings from North Central Asia, where I have lived for the last ten years. This doesn't make me an expert on ancient steppe cultures by any means, but one thing I would suggest is that perhaps necessity was the mother of invention. The weather in this region is incredibly variable, moving from -40 in the winter to +40 in the summer, which made planned agriculture difficult and a yearly migration from north to south in the winter, and south to north in the summer a necessity. As I understand it, the peoples of this time survived by following the herds of horses, and their cultures still reflect this to this day, where their diet is still heavily based on dried foods, meat and dairy. The steppe is vast and harsh with few natural resources that would be useful to ancient peoples, so there were few stable settlements - all of which makes warfare far less common than it would have been in the crowded, settled lands further to the west - wolves and bears were far more of a threat than other people..
So, you have the ancient people of the steppe, following the herds for food, likely living right alongside them for generations to the point where the horses no longer feared them, sharing a threat from common predators, and needing to migrate thousands of miles every year due to the weather conditions. In these circumstances it seems almost inevitable that the humans would eventually realise that they could climb onto the horses to move more quickly both for migration and for escape. This relationship would also be symbiotic, since the humans, with their hunting technology, would also help protect the horses, particularly their young, from those very predators as well.
But as I said, that's just a half-baked theory I came up with whilst watching your interesting video!
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As I binge this channel, it is quickly becoming a favorite. As far as the idea that the myth cannot be older than the domestication of dogs, or that perhaps some earlier variants involved wolves and not dogs; myths evolve over time to reflect what is going on in the material world of the the people whos myths they are, and what is going on in the interior world of the same. But its not like the diffusion of mythology is linear. If there are 100 iterations of the same myth, some people will still have the oldest iterations, others will have the newest but the vast majority will have one of the 98 iterations between. The myth, in a given place, is likely to reflect the degree to which domestication has developed in that place. And domestication was a very long process which began with human interactions with wolves.
Ethnobiology has a dog in this fight too (haha), "We argue that dog-human coevolution resulted in shared existence as hybrid pack-families". I will cite the paper at the bottom of this comment, it is a really big deal. Hybrid pack-families essentially means hybrid societies of humans and canines. The impact this would have on the part canines have played in the shaping of human society (as co-equals at a formative point), let alone myth, is highly substantial.
I suggest that the myth of the dog guardian of the gate to the underworld is probably a mythological narrative describing the process of very early domestication in extremely symbolic terms. When humans were becoming the disproportionately more powerful partner in the relationship. That femininity is associated with otherworldliness throughout the Indo-European sphere and that women were the gatekeepers of dogs inclusion to personhood (during the hybrid pack-family stage of canine domestication) is really interesting. Even more interesting to me than this is the possibility that humans were showing signs of preadaption for domestication by canines, such as "... There was no difference between the influence of men and women on dogs' utility for humans, but affiliation with women had a stronger effect on humans' utility for dogs and personhood of dogs than did affiliation with men. This intriguing finding requires in-depth ethnographic analysis from new studies".
I am not sure there could be more clear of a case made for the impact of canines on human ethnogenesis than the information you have correlated in this video.
Anyways, here is the study by the Journal of Ethnobiology: https://bioone.org/journals/journal-of-ethnobiology/volume-40/issue-4/0278-0771-40.4.414/Dog-Human-Coevolution-Cross-Cultural-Analysis-of-Multiple-Hypotheses/10.2993/0278-0771-40.4.414.full
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I wrote something, informally, on this subject in a blog post in March of 2010. I too, was fascinated by the information on Cuceteni-Tripolye in Anthony's book. I had read the occasional archaeological paper on the culture for several years before, but Anthony brought these disjointed patches of partial information into focus for me. In the blog post, I quoted exactly the same paragraph on the culture's social organization that you have in this video.
After that, I wrote the following:
My instinct, confronted with this archaeological evidence, is not to conclude that something twice the size of Uruk, obviously engaged in large scale trade and manufacturing, is not a city, but that the conventional definition of a city must be wrong. By this absurd convention, neither Amsterdam nor New York are cities (Neither has ever been dominated by a palace or a temple). Instead, I would conclude that monarchy and temple priesthoods are not essential to the appearance and flourishing of cities, at any “stage” or era. Such institutions characterized Mesopotamian cities. Fine. But city life clearly emerged elsewhere without them.
Notice the assumptions built into Anthony’s last sentence. Elsewhere in the book, he conveys the impression that the Tripolye “super towns” were ephemeral. They only lasted several centuries (i.e., longer than the United States has). But Uruk and the other Mesopotamian “first cities” only lasted a few centuries before being reduced to dust. They were not replaced, at least not in the same location. Subsequent Near Eastern urban centers appeared elsewhere, further up the Tigris and Euphrates. The acknowledged “first cities” were no more durable than these unacknowledged ones. The idea that a consular system, if that was indeed how they were governed, was disastrously “unwieldly” is mere cartoon imagery, based on the assumption that monarchy or dictatorship are inherently more efficient than democracy. This is a belief that should be very doubtful to anyone who has payed attention to the events of the last century.
These urban communities, in what is now Moldova, Moldavia and Western Ukraine, have every bit as good a claim to being the “first cities” as Uruk and Eridu have. True, they do not fulfill the unexamined conventional image of cities as the passive side-effect of aristocracy. Boo hoo. They do fulfill a rational definition of a city, as a settlement in which large numbers of people, far more than characterize a farming village, engage in technical innovation, internal as well as external trade, and the process of replacing imports with domestic production. As for their eventual demise and disappearance, a far more plausible explanation than the supposed shortcomings of consular government presents itself. Settlements of such size would inevitably have exposed themselves to those infectious diseases which thrive in high population density, and for which this pioneering population would have had no previous experience or immunity. It is especially significant that it took place in a region that was coming into close interaction with a new domestic animal, the horse. Domestic animals are the usual vectors of new plagues. The horse-herding and riding cultures of the adjacent steppes would have long acquired resistance to these diseases, giving them a strategic advantage over little cities precariously exposed in this location. This, and the climate change which subsequently parched the region, can easily account for the fact that these early cities declined and were not subsequently replaced. Blaming proto-democratic organization for it is lazy thinking.
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The older I get, the more I realise just how inaccurate historical accounts are. So much so that all historical details are 100% unreliable, even when written records are found. There are millions of inaccurate historical records that are within living memory let alone from hundreds of years ago. Accounts differ because of perspectives, 2nd, 3rd, 4th hand information, political beliefs, social and economic experience, status, agendas, fear etc etc etc. Also If medieval England was as brutal as we think, then writing the truth would have been a death sentence, much like the truth today can get you arrested. Even an event from just 12 months ago will be written by dozens of people who all account those events differently. History is completely unreliable.
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Fantastic video as always! As an anthropologist with a focus on the southwestern US, I love getting this kind of information on a part of the world that's very foreign to me. Love the idea of Irish snail farmers, simply the thought makes me smile.
The idea of a seafood taboo is also very interesting to me, and calls to mind something from my own experiences. I'm Apache and Akimel O'odham thru one side of my family and Minnesota Norge on the other. The Norwegians love seafood but turn up their noses at river fish (I've heard often how catfish taste muddy, etc). My native family treat fish as exotic and strange, and really only like it breaded and fried. I do wonder if this has something to do with preservation, as others have suggested in the comments. People whose environments would cause fish to spoil faster may have found them gross and associated them with illness, whereas coastal populations tended to eat them fresh, sometimes immediately upon catch. I could definitely see this leading to a historical taboo.
Another thing to cap off this long comment: the proto-farming of hazelnuts is similar to sites we've found out here which suggest the same was done in the American West with the agave plant. Mostly outside cave entrances, there's evidence of large patches of agave transplanted there and likely returned to seasonally. Within the caves we find corn, pinenuts, and other such things which could be kept dried (I had to exciting opportunity to handle one of the ancient maize cobs found in New Mexico, still had solid kernels after all those years). The resourcefulness of human beings is one of my favorite recurring themes in this line of study, and it really is impressive what we were able to shape from the raw environments we found ourselves in.
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As Ukrainian, I’ve heard about this culture, but didn’t know much. This is truly amazing. When I am looking at these houses, I recognize Ukrainian villages. Wood frame, clay and straw. I still remember those straw roofs and painted clay walls on older houses when I visited my grandparents. Each region in Ukraine has its own pottery and textile styles. They are very colourful and gorgeous. There was a cult of “bereginya” in Ukrainian culture. Bereginya is a goddess who protects your house and family. Even now we call our women bereginya. Agriculture plays very important role in the economy of Ukraine. Even though I have a very small backyard, I still plant lots of vegetables, berries and flowers. It is in my blood. I can’t believe how much my people were influenced by this culture and still have it regardless of multiple wars, occupations, deportations, famine, repressions. When Russians are telling us, Ukrainians, that we have never existed and were created by Lenin, I can only laugh and feel sorry for them… by the way, according to UNESCO, Ukraine has the larges number of folk songs in the world. Now I know why - we have very very deep roots.
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I'm incredibly glad that you went into my recommendation on the Bronze Age battle. The battle on Dołęża (Tolouse, Tollense) was propably the most important battle leading to Venedization of Europe and to pushing Sea Peoples south.
I connect the battle of Tollense (Dołęża, Tolouse) with the rise of Vendi/Veneti/Vengiones/Wendisch/Antes or simply "followers of Queen Vanda/Wanda". Those peoples are ancestors of Slavs, Suavi, Balts, Illirians, Thrakians, Bretonians. Due to tradition held in Polish monastery on Jasna Góra, Queen Wanda lived c.a. 1200BC and her sit of power was some 8km east from nowadays Krakow, in nowadays eastern part of Nowa Huta, where the mound of Wanda, bridge of Wanda, stadium of Wanda and shopping mall of Wanda are located.
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Lovely story Dan. That's that way it used to be. In pre-Roman antiquity, a boy was considered a man when he turned 14, a girl a woman when she had her first menstruation. Since times immemorial, the land between the Black and Caspian seas agglomerated peoples of different ethnic origins: Magyars, Avars, Slavs, Germanic, Mongolian, Bulgars, etc. After the Huns raided Europe, they retreated back to this area. When the Magyars (Hungarians) raided Europe centuries later, they remained in the Carpathian basin, in the Danube river valley where they are still today, but some did go back further east. Cheers.
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I can't imagine a cow, especially the cows of those times, being chosen for experimental surgery!
I wonder if trepanning was used to cure seizures? Head injuries can lead to seizures. Children can have children, sometimes due to high fevers during illness. Maybe the cow had grande mal seizures and the trepanning was done when the cow was immobile?
Somewhere on YT there is or was an archaeological video about digging up the mass burials from the battle of Towton in England. Wounds were particularly nasty in that battle, perhaps because both sides were very emotionally involved. I know Towton happened a long time after the Bronze Age but according to some sources it was one of the most brutal battles ever fought with weapons wielded by hand.
Anecdotally, my friend had such severe migraines for awhile that she said if she could have gotten out of bed, she seriously thought of using her power drill on her skull to relieve pressure. I personally have severe, chronic, genetic migraine for which there is no treatment. Doctors have suggested I do a sort of DIY acupuncture. Sometimes veins swell during the procedure and if the pain is especially bad and prolonged, I nick the veins with a small scalpel to induce bleeding. (My doctors did not recommend this.) My point is, migraine is so terrible that drilling holes in the head makes sense.
For migraine, Native Americans mixed charcoal and bear grease and pounded this into areas of the head and scalp with a thorn from the Hawthorn tree. Think in terms of the dark tattoos in various areas of Otzi the Ice Man's body.
Another report of primitive treatment of head wounds concerns Clyde Barrow's brother Buck. (Bonnie and Clyde gang, 1933.) A top frontal chunk of Buck's brain was blown off by a bullet, exposing the brain according to reports. The gang was absolutely on the run and it has been written that hydrogen peroxide and possibly mercurochrome were poured into the hole. (I would assume when it is said the brain was exposed, that the dura matter was intact, similar to what would be found in trepanning.) Buck survived for a number of days, was eventually captured and died of pneumonia in hospital. A recent video on the life story of the gang said that Buck had been shot in the chest prior to capture and this led to the fatal pneumonia.
My point is, Buck Barrow survived a severe head injury for a significant period of time in the primitive, filthy conditions of outlaws on the run in cars and camping out when they could. Injuries and causes of injuries have changed a lot over the millennia but the human body is similar.
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The end of the Tumulus and Trzciniec cultures lines up with the LBAC in the Mediterranean world. It's probable that a breakdown of society in northern Europe was one of several factors which caused a cascading effect, whereby tribes in southern France, Italy and Illyria were invaded by uprooted bands from the north, disrupting the bronze and amber trades and causing economic hardship there, forcing them to run or join with the northerners in their quest for food/plunder. This would have in turn severely disrupted the economies of Sardinia and Sicily. The main problem is that while Sardinia is rich in copper, it needs to trade with Cornwall for tin to make bronze, and the trade route is now interdicted by an endless tide of bandits. This in turn causes their economy to collapse and for people to seek food/plunder elsewhere, spreading the collapse. And now, with the European bronze trade completely disrupted, everyone in Mesopotamia starts experiencing bronze shortages and has to rely more on the Afghanistan trade routes. To add to that, the entire eastern Mediterranean is currently suffering from a bout of crop failures caused by drought, and Anatolia is suffering from a series of strong earthquakes, which weakens local defenses across the board (but especially so in the Hittite Empire). Currently, the two major empires in the region (Hitties, Egypt) have declared a truce to deal with the rising threat of the Assyrians, and the Hittites have recently concluded some kind of treaty with Wilusa (Troy).
By the time the wave of bandits reaches the Aegean, pretty much everyone in the area is at war. On one side is a coalition led by Mycenae, on the other a coalition led by Wilusa.
Interestingly, the Iliad records the Achaeans randomly detouring to / pillaging certain places unrelated to Troy, suggesting this was a conflict fought on many fronts. If we take the rest of the story as a somewhat distorted account of real events, it's likely that the decade-long siege of Troy (impossible for armies of that time) was actually a multi-generational conflict which flared up every so often, and eventually ended in the defeat and sack of Troy. Given this likelihood, it's entirely possible that the real Agamemnon might have actually been Menelaus's successor, avenging a slight done to his father, or they could have just been two allied kings (the Amarna letters have lots of kings referring to each other as family members as a way of denoting status, so it's possible the same convention was held in nearby Greece).
Either way, everyone is at war and not in a position to stop the bandits coming out of the sea and down out of the Balkans. Greece and western Anatolia are overwhelmed, and the sea bandits set ashore and start heading west, plundering everything as they go. Along the way, many settle down in places, including the Thracians, Lydians, Phrygians and Armenians, who together form one branch of the Indo-European language tree. Then the bandits reach the Levant, and shit really begins to go down. Hittite vassals in the area are all caught with their pants down and their armies hundreds of miles away, likely called away by the Hittites to fend off the Anatolian invaders. Eventually, the Hittites break down into civil war, as each prince declares his own city independent and fights the others for dominance. With bandits approaching from the west and the government broken down, the capital city of Hattusas is systematically stripped of its records and valuables and burned down by the Hittites themselves, probably because the land around it is depopulated and they see no further point in maintaining the place.
In the confusion, almost all of the Levant falls to the sea bandits, who establish themselves as rulers over several dozen allied towns. They push back the Assyrians to their homeland, but are defeated by the Egyptians, who install some of them as foederati in the Levant (ex. the Philistines). In this time, minor powers like Israel and Damascus can stretch their wings without interference from the big boys. For the next four centuries, Mesopotamia and Greece sit in a Dark Age, as everyone is too weak to assert dominance and everyone is still suffering from drought, economic collapse and the presence of marauding bandits. The only power that thrives are the Assyrians, who are forced back to their homeland and adopt a series of military reforms which allow them to largely recover their power by the time of Shalmaneser III.
We know very little of what goes on in Europe in the next few centuries, but we know the Liburnian people of Illyria establish a maritime empire stretching from Croatia down across both coasts of the Adriatic, before being supplanted by the Greeks in the 5th century BC. The rest of the Balkans are a chaotic mess, with major kingdoms only developing in the 6th century in Macedon and Thrace. In Italy, we see Etruscan civilization beginning to expand into the Po valley and south along the Tyrrhenian coast. In that time, they dominate the Umbrian and Sabine tribes around them culturally. By the 5th century, we see a large influx of Celts into the Po valley, and the Insubri build the city of Mediolanon (Milan). We also see Italic tribes pushing south in a local version of the koryos tradition called ver sacrum all the way up to Roman times, with the Brutti reaching Calabria by the 5th century BC. In Sardinia, the Nuragic civilization continues on in a much diminished form all the way up to Roman conquest. We also see the Celts expand into Spain during this time, butting up against the native Iberians, Vascones and Lusitanians.
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The thing with the Eurasian Steppe is that the more western you get, the better the climate and weather is (from arid to semi-arid/temperate). E.g. Ukraine has mild winter and tolerable summer, but Kazakhstan has harsh winter and insufferable summer. Also, famous Ukrainian chernozems gave the best grass for the pastoral herds. Every sane person wants to have a better life, steppe nomads weren't an exception. Hence, we have this unending chain Yamna-Cimmerians-Scythians-Sarmatians-Alans. As soon as you get into Ukrainian part of the Steppe, you have two options: to stay or to try going even more western (Pannonian plain), but in order to get there you need to pass the Carpathian mountains.
Living a good life in the western most part of the Steppe and contacting with civilizations like Greeks and Romans made nomads more civilized and hence soft and weak and then new pretenders, more feral and desperate, immediately took their place. After IE nomads there were Turkic and Mongolic tribes like Hunns, Bulgars, Avars, Pechenegs, Cumans and finally Tatar-Mongols who brought the nomadic war tactics and way of life to the extreme. Also, Madjars (Finno-Ugric) who managed to preserve their language and culture (Hungary), although their genetics is almost indistinguishable for the surrounding nations.
But all this nomadic dominance have ended when the Europeans invented rifles :)
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Your commitment and passion for this subject matter clearly shows through in all your documentaries. Thank you for shining a clear, unbiased light on such an underrepresented part of history, which in my opinion is one of the most interesting and important as well. I love how clear you are about the evidence not being conclusive, but you still manage to keep it entertaining and intriguing nonetheless. Every single scenario you mention in this video sends me down a rabbit hole of imagination, trying to picture what life would have been like for people in this age.
One subject that I've always wondered about and would love for you to do a video on someday, we often hear about the long range trade networks that were already well formed in the Neolithic , but we rarely hear specifically how far an individual would have been able to travel in a lifetime. Would most individuals have stayed relatively close to their place of birth, trade goods changing hands many times, and longer migrations of people happening over multiple generations? Or would it have been possible/common for some individuals (perhaps the prehistoric equivalent of a merchant) to travel hundreds or thousands of kilometers? This is a subject I've always been intensely interested in but unable to find a satisfying answer to, probably because of a difficulty in finding good evidence, but maybe you'd be more knowledgeable about where to research that kind of thing.
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I've ridden wild horses, and in my experience, once it is gotten used to a person on its back, its quite docile. This is usually done by tying a rope around its neck, getting the horse calm, first placing a weight on its back and then leading it around by the rope. After an hour or so of this, it is comfortable enough for a person to mount. This doesn't mean that it is tamed or trained by any means, just ridable.
Also, you don't need any kind of gear to ride a horse. If you've got someone on foot leading the lead horse with a rope, you can mount the other horses, and they simply follow the lead horse around where ever it is being lead. For safety, you can string multiple horses on a single long rope. It this way, multiple people can ride so long and there one person on foot leading the lead horse. You can also use the other animals as pack animals this way.
Maybe this is how early horse-riding worked.
I haven't ridden an ox before, but from what I understand this is how ox riding works, and ox riding is still an important mode of transport in many places around the world.
Also, historically the predominant military use of horses was for transport rather than battle. At least, this is what I've read. Perhaps the Yamanaya peoples used horses for transport rather than battle, as a means of crossing vast distances swiftly. The warriors could take turns running alongside the lead horse while the rest of the riders rested on horseback. In this way a band of warriors could cover three times the distance than on foot in a day.
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(Something I have written on this issue previously when I was bored in lockdown...this is not an attack on anything in the video but simply an expansion of the video in many ways)
The idea that Richard I was a good soldier but a bad king is a myth and the idea that he cared more about his French holdings than England, exploited England for taxes relative to his French holdings are more are all popular myths. Richard I was actually extremely administratively competent, he did fight for England indirectly and his people loved him for it and the evidence for all of this is very very clear if you just look beyond the basic internet cliches you see.
''In the first two years of John's reign, for example, over 450 charters for English beneficiaries were enrolled (i.e. file copies were made for the royal archives) compared with less than 100 for both Normandy and Aquitaine and less than 50 for Anjou. It is clear from these figures that English property owners found it advantageous to seek royal charters and confirmations of charters. An analysis of Richard Fs charters listed in the study of the king's itinerary by Lionel Landon showed that out of the 145 which were issued in Normandy no less than 91 were for English beneficiaries (compared with 49 for Normans, four for Angevins and one only for a Poitevin). In the king's courts the king's charters provided the best possible proof of ownership, and from the reign of Henry II onwards the English royal administration was offering routine procedures for bringing cases to court. The flood of litigation which followed suggests that royal justice was relatively cheap,'
'This contrast between England and the continental dominions is made explicit in a charter issued in favour of the Templars and confirmed by John in 1199. From each English shire which brought in £100 or more the Templars were to receive one mark; in Normandy, Maine, Anjou, Touraine, Poitou and Gascony they were to receive one mark, or its equivalent, from each city, castle or vill which rendered 100 pounds or more. In England, in other words, cities, castles and vills were enclosed within a uniform network of shires which, with a few exceptions, such as the Welsh march, covered the entire kingdom (Map 1). On the continent there was no such clear-cut pattern of local administration. In Anjou, for example, there were comital officials, sometimes prevots (provosts), sometimes seneschals, sometimes both, based on the castles at Tours, Chinon, Bauge, Beaufort, Brissac, Angers, Saumur, Loudun, Loches, Langeais and Montbazon. They are to be found in the Loire Valley and in western Touraine; that is to say in those regions where the count held extensive demesne lands. Elsewhere in Anjou comital officials and comital castles are conspicuous by their absence. Here, and in Maine, we are in the land of the seigneurs. They recognized the count as their lord and might be expected to obey the count's representative, the seneschal of Anjou, but their own seigneurial organization was not overlain by a comital administrative unit equivalent to the shire. From their castles the barons of Anjou dominated the surrounding countryside, untroubled by the meddling of some local official who claimed to represent the count.'
'Of all the Angevin continental dominions Normandy was the least patchy. Indeed, one of the longterm consequences of the Norman Conquest of England had been the introduction of English administrative practice into the duchy. The local officials characteristic of eleventh-century Normandy - prevots and vicomtes - found themselves increasingly, but by no means completely, eclipsed by a new type of executive and judicial (and therefore financial) official, the bailli. By 1200 there were about 25 baillis in the duchy at any one time and there was an observable tendency for their bailliages to become more shire-like, but as new creations of the twelfth century they were still subject to rearrangement and boundary alteration (as the English shire had been in the tenth century) according to immediate political or military need. This fact, plus the existence of great franchises like Eu, Aumale, Evreux and Alenc.on, meant that Normandy - as the privilege for the Templars indicates - still remained a land of cities and castellanies. Around 1200 ducal authority was relatively strong in the west of the duchy and along the frontiers (except on the north east) and relatively weak elsewhere (e.g. in the districts of Auge, Ouche and Caux)'
The Angevin Empire by John Gillingham page 50-55
https://b-ok.cc/book/885936/69da68
So we can see from the relative focus that Richard placed on all his different holdings that England was by far the most important one regarding the attention his administration played. So Richard definitely didn't neglect England relative to his French lands from a governmental point of view. Not only did RIchard I and his administrators not neglect England, but they literally exported the system of management in England to his French holdings because they were superior. This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyway who knows about henry II because Henry II used anglo-saxon law and some new developments made since Henry I (who largely built on anglo-saxon law) to create the worlds first national legal system, the common law. There was absolutely nothing comparable to this in Aquitaine, Anjou or even Normandy and it allowed for cheaper and more effective legal provisions.
Another example of big bad Richard I was his alleged exploitation of England for taxes in order to defend his French holdings and go on a crusade. We very regularly get quotes about him 'wanting to sell London if he could' for example.' What most normies completely fail to recognise is that he sold political offices precisely so that he didn't need to excessively tax the regular population. Don't just take his goodwill as reason for this, if you spend your life away from England then if England rebels you have a big problem so he did everything he could to raise money within the confines of the aristocracy and not from taxation which impacted the peasants to heavily.
- - Specifically, regarding the crusades, people seem to forget that back then in the medieval era everyone was deeply religious and it was the most important thing in their lives. The idea for English people that their king was fighting for Christianity was something they approved and loved him for. When he fought for god he fought for them. In fact, it wasn't just something they loved him for but it was the very definition of what a king was supposed to do when he was a king according to the definitions of kingship at the time. In respect of the composition of Richards forces while on crusades its important to note that by the time of the third crusade almost all of the ethnic hostility between Normans and English people had gone and they were basically identifying as one group. Some historians say that the Normans had completely assimilated to the English by the 1140's, some say the 1160's, others say the 1180s...every single historian agrees that by the early 1200s at the very latest the ethnic conflict had completely vanished. This is a point that people seem to not know when talking about anglo-norman relations in this time period and medieval England in general.
Most of the knights from England would be of Norman descent, but most of them would have identified as English despite speaking French (William Marshall for example identified as English and called it his home) and the men at arms definitely would have been majority English given they weren't equipt to the same degree as the Normans and the Normans were fighting with Anglo-saxon men at arms from the very start of their reign.
The Normans for the first 70 years fought on horseback most of the time and the anglo saxons were trained as foot soldiers and trained in anti cavalry tactics. So there's very strong reason to believe most of the regular men at arms and archers were English based on the history of Norman England. At the Battle of Arsuf, in particular, the Richard I said the following...'how essential those valiant crossbowmen and archers were that day, those absolutely inflexible men at arms who brought up the rear of the army and drove back the relentless turks as best they could with a continuous volley of shots.'
https://oxford.universitypressscholarship.com/view/10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199251230.001.0001/acprof-9780199251230
- Regarding his French holdings, Richard I raised the vast majority...and I mean the VAST majority of his taxation for the defence of his French holdings in France. When Richard was actually in Normandy the taxation from the region literally doubled England...which considering for the most of its history it had been easily lower than England is completely insane. It also wasn't the case that only Richard gained from having these territories. There was a very significant quantity of trade between England and Normandy, Anjou, Aquitaine Poitier ext and it provided a source of wealth not just for the flow of consumption goods into England but also was a great source of power for English taxation as one of the main taxation forms all throughout medieval English history was taxes on imports. For example the taxation of wool in the 100 years war and how Edward I used it to leverage power over Flanders. In fact, the trade and relationship between Gascony was so strong by the time of the 100 years war that there are French primary sources literally describing the Gascons as being 'English' because they had nothing in common with the northern French holdings and a close connection to England.
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Excellent, as always, Dan! It's interesting that only two days ago I watched a video on the Crecganford YouTube channel about a common myth across many ancient cultures that involved horses, dogs, and humans. The myth basically says that the Creator was making the first man from clay. He was busy on something else as well, so he left a dog to guard the clay figure. The dog had no fur. In those days horses had wings. One flew down, worried that if humans were created, they would hunt and kill horses. The dog was supposed to guard the clay figure, but the horse tricked him by offering him a fur coat. The horse tried to trample the clay figure, but as he tried, the Creator returned. The horse only managed to make a hoof print in the belly of the clay figure. This is why humans have a navel. After this, the Creator removed the wings of all the horses, and allowed the dog to keep his fur coat, so that he could always guard humans. This is why the dog is "Man's best friend". Also, many later stories, influenced by the ancient myth of the horse as the antagonist against humans, treated the horse as evil. It makes me think that wild horses must have seemed like they could fly, because they were so fast and intelligent. It seems that the Botai people had managed to "remove the wings" of the horses, and were helped by dogs. Sometimes myth and archaeology match.
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I dunno, that Orson Welles quote from "Third Man" is a fine soundbite, but with Switzerland we're talking about a country that has remained neutral and produced Einstein, Pauli, Jung, Hesse, Fuseli, Klee, Bernoulli, Euler, and Paracelsus, among many others.
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There's a lot to comment on... as for his wild mood swings during the investigation, it seems rather normal for a desperate person, particularly one who might have some psychological issues; one minute he is clutching at straws, madly hoping that some strange twist of fate will free him from the approaching noose, and then a moment later he understands the futility of it all and resigns himself. Did he commit as many crimes as he was convicted for? Perhaps, although exaggeration was common then, and indeed is common now (the story of Henry Lee Lucas's confessions is a case in point). And as for his innocence, his usefulness as the central victim of a conspiracy... well, maybe, though isn't a 'conspiracy' by the Duke of Brittany just as useful for French patriots as a way of casting shade on said Duke, whose duchy was not integrated with France at that time and wouldn't be for the best part of another century. All in all, a really interesting presentation. We are way too far away to have any real certainty of either his guilt or innocence, but one thing seems striking; nobody contemporary seems to queried his conviction which was, after all, based on confession.
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Thank you, your work on the subject is really commendable, and you manage to cover in these 23 minutes almost everything known so far. I was born 50 km away from Cucuteni, have spent my childhood in such places like Scanteia, Draguseni (the places of my maternal, respectively paternal grandparents), was actually playing with bronze “jewelry” found by relatives while doing their agricultural tasks (my father and I took over 1.5 -2 kg of bronze artifacts, necklaces, etc to the local museum in Iasi, but never ever saw them exposed, nor were we offered any information about them), however, we were never taught about this in school, although we were studying extensively about the Sumerians and the ancient Egyptians. Even university students with a major in history only found out about Cucuteni during their 2nd year at the time of my studies (early 80s, UAIC University in Iasi, probably the 1st or 2nd important cultural hub for Romanians - I mean, the city). Today we, the locals, as well as everyone interested in our deep past, deplore the efforts made by our Romanian authorities to keep everything silent and to discourage any archaeological work that might help us advance in our theories.
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I can't help, as a man of significant Brittish heritage, but wonder what life was like for our Mesolithic and Neolithic forefathers on the isles, how rugged and harsh life must have been for our Mesolithic forefathers to live in the harsh northern weather, and bring food home to their family and tribe, the hard manual labor of our Neolithic forefathers, and just what was going through their minds when they constructed the great stone megaliths that now cover our home isles, and how they reacted when the Bell Beakers entered, bringing a whole new culture and way of life utterly alien to them, did they try to resist them ? Did they peacefully assimilate ? I wonder what their languages and cultures were like. I'm also kind of interested in what the language of the Bell Beakers was like, what kind of forgotten Indo European did our ancient ancestors speak ? I like to think it has a weird blend of Germanic, Celtic, and Italic elements in it. The Brittish isles has such a long and rich wealth of history
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Extremely fascinating topic and very evocative. I wonder to what degree the constantly-bared breasts of Minoan women lost their sexual potency or connotations, like how they seem to have (according to my understanding) in many tribal hunter-gatherer cultures from South America, Africa, and the islands of the Indian & Pacific Oceans? I imagine that they obviously still would be considered beautiful, just as the parts modern women often bare still are today, but it's interesting to ponder that they might not have been considered as sexual as we consider them now. Do we have any indication if the women covered them up as they aged/as their fertility declined, or were they likely bared by at least some women for as long as they lived?
My mind also goes to the amber trade. I heard amber jewelry was all the rage back in the Bronze Age, being the height of women's fashion, and was so both before & for a time after, too. I think you've mentioned this trade in your other videos, also! I kind of appreciate that it's not so popular as jewelry nowadays, because it makes it more special to those that still have a taste for wearing it. My mother is Lithuanian, and buying her amber jewelry, sourced from her home, allows her to dress herself in a unique way that honors her heritage quite unmistakably, while also remaining timelessly & objectively fashionable. It's also a point of pride that my ancestors, then, as Balts, would have been indispensable in the stories of the beautiful pieces adorning the women of the cultures showcased here.
Thanks for opening up these windows to the past, Mr. Davis. Cheers!
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as always i enjoyed the video...
to put forward some alternative thoughts, however: even in Europe there has continued, until fairly recently, a limited tradition of secondary dealing with the dead... or in fact, COMMUNING with the dead- revering and visiting the remains, not merely at a burial site
(although certainly people do THAT- we even decorate the graves yearly!)
You have only to look at the artifacts of saints- or great kings and heroes... the gilded bones, the sacred items incorporating the bones and sometimes preserved flesh, of notable people
or the cathedrals of the bones, and the niches of bones and labyrinths of bones, currently in Europe: where people paid to have their loved ones disinterred after the ground had consumed the flesh, and the bones ... displayed.
At the displays of death masks, or even preserved corpses...
we
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and if you look further than Europe? to the indigenous practices of people world wide, you find there are always a few places where the bones- once stripped of flesh- are painted with ochre, or positioned to sit and watch over... or skulls are kept...
its... not that strange a concept, really
even today i can tell you that a lot fo people maintain an ancestor shrine- whether they call it that or not: with relics and photos of their beloved grandparents, and tokens representing the place they came from...
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The greatest? I'm not sure. It entirety depends on the criteria. However, if Richard Leoheart was the greatest at anything among the medieval kings of England it was perhaps in seeking glory and the fame that comes with it; and the Plantagenets were notorious in that sense. All you need to do is look at those he is competing with.
Among them you have Richard's father Henry II, who was essentially seeking a western European empire, albeit one that would be split upon his death. He was the Titan of his era, dominating his french rival Louis VII ( cough , Eleanor, cough ).
Another contender is Edward I. With his continental ambitions stifled he sought, and ultimately attained, the domination of Britain. And before he was even king he was a glory chaser. Inspired by his uncle Richard of Cornwall and by that more famous Richard, the Lionheart, Edward went on crusade. More importantly he experienced some success.
Our next challenger is Edward III who famously sought glory in tournaments and revelled in the pageantry of it. More importantly he tried reclaiming the huge Plantagenet domains of Henry II. He did pretty well and was much celebrated for it. His many sons, first and foremost Edward, the Black Prince also added to the picture of an idealized warrior-king.
And then of course you have Henry V. His success at Agincourt made him famous and the Treaty of Troyes a few years later cemented that legacy when he was named Charlie VI's heir to the Kingdom of France. Henry also obviously owes a great debt to Shakespeare for his modern reputation.
However Richard the Lionheart probably takes the cake, even in this stacked field. He was the first English king to go on Crusade, setting an example many subsequent kings tried to emulate with varying degrees of success. Taking the cross was ruinously expensive and was politically dangerous; for Richard especially so, given the temperament of his little brother and the fact he would be absent from his domains for years. So why risk it? Without discounting genuine piety the answer seems clear. He wanted the glory, the fame, the stories and songs that came with it. And if his crusading was not enough you can always look at the near constant wars he engaged in. He was setting the standard for the warrior-king all English kings (and kings in western Europe for that matter) would follow. Winning battles was extremely important and Richard won early and often. Given this fact it is not surprising he died on the battlefield; or at least in a tent next to one. This only increased his fame. The romantic notion that dying on the field was preferable to dying in your bed of old age was another reason his story would be told. His martial prowess, his willingness to travel to a distant land "for Christ", and his demise on the field would be use as a means to measure future kings. In that sense he was certainly the most famous. Even here in America if you asked someone if they had heard of Richard the Lionheart you'd likely get a "Yep". (Thanks Robinhood).
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That sounds contrary to contemporary science, do you have a source you could link? From what I understand the battle axe culture is either replaced or fused with Kurgan tumulus culture (probably by cultural diffusion, since there is not a corresponding gene flow), followed by transition into late nordic bronze age?
Genetically, the battle axe culture is yamnaya/corded ware with admixture from the funnelbeaker culture. With the funnelbeakers being the local descendants from the neolithic anatolian farmer population (aka the Early European Farmers, EEFs).
To my knowledge, there is no genetic flow associated with central Europe after the appearance of the battle axe culture.
Also, the Seine-oise-marne culture is a neolithic/chalcolithic culture(?). To my knowledge, there is no chalcolithic culture in Scandinavia (which transitions directly from neolithic to bronze with the arrival of the Indo-Europeans).
Further still, current Scandinavian genetics are VERY close to battle axe culture genetics. And medieval Scandinavian religion (old norse religion, aesir and vanir etc) is most likely descended from proto-Indo-European pantheon.
So if the seine-oise-marne culture was in Scandinavia, then they left no genetic, cultural or archeological evidence? Unless you are trying to pass of Scandinavian passage graves as Seine-oise-marne gallery graves? But even then, those pre-date the battle axe culture by 500 years, and stops being constructed before the battle axe culture even arrives.
I can't make it fit with my pressent understanding. But I would be very interested to read more, if you have any links to post.
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Well I guess I’m not going to bed as early as I was planning, hah! Awesome video so far, always amazed at your level of detail, yet you weave all these tiny details into one cohesive and fascinating story in an easy, smooth, and expressive way, that very few have the skill to match!
Keep up the awesome work, you are crushing it! I’m always checking back just in case I missed a notification for your channel. So glad I did tonight! Merry Christmas, and happy holidays, enjoy your time with friends and family, hope you are lucky enough to be spending time with those important to you this holiday season.
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That is truly fascinating. Especially when you see the Hjortspring boat. The carvings just seem to spring to life! One thing that struck me was that the "Big men", shown in human form in the carvings (as opposed to just straight lines, crewing the boats, for the ordinary warriors) are depicted with what appears to be some form of headgear, fitted with what can only be described as horns. And in "common knowledge", who were the one type of warriors who wore HORNED HELMETS (yes, I know this wasn't strictly speaking true)? THE VIKINGS. This seems to me to be a direct parallel, and shows evidence that the mindset of the later "Vikings" (i.e. Scandanavians), had it's roots well within the Bronze Age. Could it have been that the later Viking warriors, all wore practical, state of the art, steel helmets, in line with the best common practice of the time, as they were the ones doing the "raping and pillaging". But the CHIEFS of the Vikings actually wore a CEREMONIAL type of helmet, which was closely modelled on those found depicted in the rock carvings. Thereby continuing the traditional dress which came from the Bronze Age? It's a very intriguing possibility.
VERY Skyrim!
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P/R/Q are Ancient North Eurasian/Ancient North Siberian lineages. These lineages probably originated in a population related the Bacho Kiro IUP samples from Bulgaria. It is likely Y-DNA K/K2 originated in an area spanning eastern West Asia, southern Central Asia, and northern South Asia. At some point during the late Paleolithic, this Crown Eurasian-like population would have expanded in all directions throughout Eurasia. Salkhit, Yana, and Tianyuan are their descendants, which makes sense considering they all share a particular drift independent of populations from South East Asia, and both Yana and Tianyuan have Y-DNA K2b/P.
Again, it is important to recognize that present day races/ethnicities such as the East Asian Japanese or Han Chinese, they would not have existed 30-60K ybp. Various, complex ancient admixture events are responsible for modern day populations being what they are today, and back in the Paleolithic-Mesolithic, many of these events had not yet occurred, Homo sapiens had only been in Eurasia for around 20K years, more or less. So please stop using terms like “white” or the vague as hell “Asian,” a term which could apply to a multitude of diverse and differing races/ethnicities that inhabit the Eurasian landmass. The use of those words in such a context is very anachronistic, groups such as “whites”/Europeans, and East Asians, as we know them today, didn’t exist yet, so it is misleading as hell to use such terms, it completely distorts the complex realities at play here.
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I have a memory from 1996,when I was in kindergarten. I never could explain it, and when i think back on it after studying in my 20s old norse culture, i look3d back and almost couldn't believe the memory i had of that day in kindergarten. One day near Christmas the teacher told us about a mysterious old man who on Christmas rides violently and fast and leaves candy but you can never catch him. We all thought it wad just storytime and then all us kids sitting indian style went quiey ad the teacjer said, listen! And i swear to this day at 33 years old there was an almost defeaning, ever loudly growing sound of horse hoofs, i remember being terrified like it wad a ghost. I mean im 6,so lol. But just when the sound of hoofs came clos3 enough, the classroom door swung op3n and candy flew EVERYWHERE alpng the floor and the door slamm3d back shut, the spund of hooves getting quieter.we all ran up and lool3d outside and there was no one there. Logically, at 33 years old these days, i tell myself well obviously the faculty was behind it, to kind of spark our imagination. But this wild hunt mythology? Matbe she was Scandinavian our teacher? I guess a child's imagination plays a big role but this memory doesn't make a lot of sense, especially because it took place in Texas. (lots of German less Scandinavian) maybe it was a culture day? The biggest question abou5 tjos childhook memory i have is how scared i felt lol. It didn't feel mysterious or festive, i remember being terrified and trying to understand if that old man on tje horse was a ghost.
Anyway thanks for the upload and reminding me of a memory you reminded me of. I think somehow mu memory and the wild hunt are related.
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You did well to show the paper of the DNA analysis of genetic variants linked to the color of Otzi's eyes.
There are nuances that a reconstruction cannot capture, on the color of the skin, hair and eyes, and even of the overall face (soft tissues > "Soft tissues are the tissues that hold the skeleton and organs together, such as muscle, fat and tendons")
In the paper you quote it says:
“Individuals who shared Iceman haplotypes had blue eyes in less than 5% of cases, 40% had green or more hazel eyes, while 55.7% of individuals had brown eyes””
But they have nevertheless voluntarily decided to give him "brown" eyes (visually black to be honest), even if 40% of people who share his genetic variants displayed green to hazel eyes, and even some at -5% blue eyes...
So it's a choice at this level: they decided to take the highest percentage ("brown at 55.7%), but to leave out +- 45% remaining...
I'm not saying that this choice is wrong, but it was perhaps not realistic and this is the essential point: sometimes it comes down to probability.
Here the probability for the blue eye color is low, but for the green to hazel color is quite significant (40%!!!), which means that he had at least a good probability that he didn't have "brown" eyes (in truth, close to black, so black visually speaking for the human eyes).
The reconstruction of the pigmentation of a former individual is sometimes based on probabilities, but some people with an agenda have tried to pass off "mixed" probabilities (here 40% "other" versus 55% "brown/dark brown/black) for high reliability.
People might say "come on man, they based the prediction on the highest eye color probability, that's it"
Yes, but 55% is not that high, because there are 40 (and even 45) green or hazel eyes.... It's almost Half-half lol
For example, if you take my mother (who is half Sardinian and French, by the way): she has light hazel eyes, but analyzing a few SNPs related to her eye color, we could probably make the same prediction pigmentation than with Otzi: -5% blue eyes, 40% green or hazel eyes, 55% brown/black eyes
So if we try to follow the "largest percentage" model, then we would have to say that she is likely to have brown or black eyes, but the reality is that she has light hazel eyes... 40 % is significant, so taking the highest percentage as a basis for asserting iris color is sometimes unrealistic, as it obscures other significant percentages.
We can check my mother's iris color, however Otzi died centuries ago, so we can't, so the iris pigmentation prediction model isn't bad, it's just the interpretation that is made of it which is sometimes bad, even misleading (because ideology).
The wrong interpretation is to think that a reconstruction of an individual (Otzi) exposing with visually black eyes is based on a DNA analysis which shows a "high probability" close to 100%... If we look at the DNA paper for Obtzi... it's not close at all (we see that 40% of people who share his genetic variants linked to iris color have green to hazel eyes)
Same thing hair and other.
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This is one of the hardest topic there is beacuse the sources to study it are basically none existing. Anyone who tries to study it deserves respect and free visit with a psychiatrist.
What I myself found rather usefull when writing my own story was sort of cross referencing method.
For example, when writing about Nordic Bronze Age culture I used informations about more primitive cultures that we know of, for example, famous Zulu's bull head tactics, native american and viking "raids" and celtic and greek writings about "planned battles" where kings/chiefs would chose battlefield, decide limit of warriors in said battle and establish order of battle.
During my archeology class in college I have learned that close to 300 bronze swords, couple copper/bronze shields and many axes have been found in scandinavia. Now I am not saying that sword was very common weapon in 1700-500 bc, but the fact alone that there have been close to 300 bronze swords found and buried with owners suggest that the Nordic people prefered the sword and shield as their main choice weapon since so many people had them that we found over a hundred of them. That suggest the scandinavian people were alway more into typical mano a mano, you vs me, see who is bigger champion, rather than collective way of thinking akin to romans or greeks.
As for the Bell Breaker culture, I had an entire class focused on their topic so I know a little bit but in short I would say that they were originally iberian warriors who adopted/invented more nomadic/horse archery form of combat like native american and mongolian tribes rather than close quarters what allowed them to spread so far and introduce Metallurgy in territories from Spain to today's russia.
We have also spent some time talking about battle at Tollense and looking at how many bodies of men and women were seen on the battlefield we came to a conclusion it was an ambush. Most likely large celtic merchant or migrating group traveled eastwards to create new tribe in the east and they were most likely attacked by local Nordic culture raiders or agressive tribe. The battle went more less like this. A convoy of sort was attacked when crossing the river from north and east (read back and side) what forced them to retreat futher south, going along the river, animal bones suggest that at least one group used horse riding warriors as guardians, most likely the celts, at least 5 of them were killed judging by the horse skeletons. When the nords defeated the guards, they followed the non combatans . After the main guarding force was killed the remaining troops were retreating alongisde the river to protect the non combatans and were being slowly finished off what explains why bodies are so dense in one place and scattered in other places.
Now, if we are to be "historian" about it, the two female skeletons found on the battlefiel belonged to two women who resist being captured and were killed by bandits, and if we want to be "fantasy" about it they were warriors, what based on the wounds and damage they suffered is pretty likely, maybe they were both celts, or maybe were both nords or maybe one was celt and other nords? we will never know.
This theory was supported by the facts the there was no burial mounds and that the bodies were just left lyign where they fell and stipped of all belonging, what suggest it was not honorable battle between clans but most likely attack of bandits who stripped bodies of the fallen warriors and taken the captured people as slaves.
This may not be as epic as the idea of large battle where two armies 2000 warriors strong met on battlefield to end a war, but at the same time it tells us that people could travel in much larger groups than we thought, and that even something as ordinary as bandits could have force of 1000-2000 thousands warriors, what may suggest that real battles between tribes could be even larger in scale, or involve entire coalitions of tribes and clans, just like in Mesopotamia wars were being waged by coalitions of cities and settlements who later were becoming empires.
Hope that was somehow helpful for anyone who wanted to knwo anything more, the video was also very helpful, I have never before heard about the trepanation I will have to look it up somewhere later. Good luck with your researchs and book writings.
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You missed an important bronze age horn,found in the hundreds in Cornwall and Ireland,which lends an interesting twist to what people were thinking,and that is the finely cast horn(known as the lizard)from Cornwall and elsewhere,it is a sophisticated musical horn made of sheet bronze,in very variable shapes and sizes.dont know if it's just a theory that they were used in war,the biggest being the calix (probably spelt rong),the other high art of the bronze age was the couldren,apparently coming from the steps /Mongolia but has parrallel's in the west,some interesting points to investigate,in relation to teck,mobility,custom ,craft,and economics
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Excellent and informative video.
The descendants of the Yamnaya, or Kurgan people, largely descendants of the “North Eurasians”, people who occupied the steppe of Eurasia for thousands of years, contributing a large amount of DNA to the people of Northern Europe, and about a third of the ancestry of Native Americans, and some to India, did indeed bring death and destruction wherever they went in northern Europe. But probably not in the way usually portrayed, through warfare. Probably it was primarily disease.
Old populations are resistant to being totally taken over by new populations. If this does happen, it is because of one of two (or both) reasons.
1. The newcomers come with a much higher population density, commonly by having agriculture, or more advanced agriculture, then the native population.
2. The newcomers brought deadly diseases that they had some immunity to, but the native people did not.
For the Bell Beaker people, it was likely the deadly diseases, that they originally got from cattle. But the native Neolithic people also had cattle. Yes, but that doesn’t mean that they had the same diseases that the Bell Beaker people had. The Bell Beaker people originally came from the steppe. A land that can be very bleak and cold in the winter. Without many trees that can be used to build shelters. It may have been necessary for them to overwinter in what shelters they could build and keep the animals inside with them, at least during the coldest spells. Doing so exposes them to the same diseases that affect cattle. This would not be necessary in the far milder climate of Britain.
Where did the newest version of the plague that sweep through Europe starting in 1347 originate from? From the steppe of Eurasia, where by then, it was affecting not just cattle and people but rodents as well.
This is not just unsupported speculation but is supported by DNA evidence. The DNA of the ancestor of the plague bacteria has been found in the teeth of four people who died at the time the Bell Beaker people first showed up. If plague DNA is found in five-thousand-year-old teeth, it means one thing. It means they died of the plague. It gets even into the teeth near the end.
Further finds are needed. But if the pattern still holds up, no plague found in the teeth of people before the Bell Beaker people show up, but plague first showing up just after they arrive, I think that evidence will be decisive.
In California, an early expedition through the Sacramento valley noted the Indian villages they encountered along the way. Returning through the same region a few months later, they noted that a plague was killing a huge proportion of the Indians. They didn’t seem to connect this with themselves because they were all pretty healthy.
Likely when the Bell Beaker people first showed up, the disease would spread like wildfire, killing off most, but not all of the people native to the area. Possibly the Bell Beaker people were mystified by what was happening to the natives. In the next few generations, the Bell Beaker population would explode in the now largely empty land, and intermarry with the relatively few survivors, who could pass on knowledge of agriculture. A new population, containing 90% largely Yamnaya DNA and 10% of the Neolithic people’s DNA who were there before. And that DNA has largely been maintained down to the present age in Northern Europe. Five thousand years of warfare has not changed that very much.
Why didn’t the native Americans get this disease resistance from their North Eurasian ancestors? Because when North Eurasians mixed with East Asians to make the population of Siberia that would later populate the Americas, they were not yet herding cattle and had not yet developed any resistance to the plague, cowpox or other diseases.
Well, a story of warrior kings taking over a land is more compelling than a story of disease making it happen. But I suspect that the disease story is closer to the truth. A book by Geneticist David Reich called “Who We Are and How We Got Here” covers the DNA evidence for the pre-history of Europe, and the rest of the world, very well. It is well worth reading.
And don’t make the same mistake the builders of Stonehenge made. Go get vaccinated. Otherwise, thousands of years from now, people may wonder what you were thinking.
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@DanDavisHistory Well I've been through second hand works about these documents and I've heard about this theory of the bow being a WIP basically, but thanks a lot for bringing these up anyways! It's difficult to be certain, but that would make a lot of sense. I like to think that he actually shot most of his arrows in defense prior to his hicking trip, sometimes between his first meal in the valley (indicated by lower altitude polens), probably in a wooded area, and his last one just before he headed for the mountains. What forced him so abruptly from a populated valley to suddenly seek shelter in the mountains with poorly maintained equipment (bow and arrows) if not a struggle or a fight? I think he lost most of his arrows shooting at attackers, or maybe he tried to attack some people himself, perhaps he was part of a small group, the rest of which died in a fight with people down the valley, and he, as the last survivor tried to flee while the valley dwellers chased him. That's what I always picture.
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If Frey and Freya are a god pair, then would it not be reasonable that Njord would have been paired with Njärd? Could Njärd and Nerthu be the same? As I understand it, Njord has a strong association with the sea and Nerthy has a strong association with earth. Maybe some strata of culture and perspective was to divide the world into sea and earth rather than heaven and earth? And maybe this perspective is where the bogland becomes sacred, as being both. Aja, I know that Frey and Freya are titles, not names, anyway, I still like the symmetry.
I watched a season or two of Vikings before I lost interest. I recall it as being utterly stupid and ignorant in many things. But I remember that they had made water prominent in the pagan temple, like little canals. I thought that was a good idea, a neat speculation.
Fascinating video! To me, the long horns with little bulbs at the top look very similar. Also, the Galician and Scandinavian stag-deer motive must be connected. But I think you walk a perfect balance of showing connectivity and not making unfounded assumptions. Then again, it would be interesting to see people putting hard narratives forward because those are easier to shoot down, and then other can make other hard narratives that are shot down and over time a skeleton of narrative might emerge :)
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Indeed this is true, Stephen the Great of medieval Moldavia is also a national hero, was definitely more successful in reign (also considered a saint by the Romanian Orthodox Church) , and yet Vlad is definitely more famous. His story from early on, the cards he was dealt in life, and questioning weather some of his brutal acts were maybe exaggerated by propaganda of that time (printing press was freshly invented).
The docu video is good, but can only present so much of events and detail in 1 hour, there is of course more to his story, or... specially to Vlad's story, if any.
P.s. It's said that when Stephen was battling one of his rivals early on, he was wounded pretty badly and fell off his horse, left for dead, in chaos and mud. After he lay there for a long time, awaken, he asked God to give him strength to get through this struggle and then he would never turn his face away from Him. Eventually after every victorious battle he built a new monastery, over 46 victories from 48 battles was it ? Something like that.. against all powers around him. Kingdom of Hungary, Poland (cuz yes Christians tried to interfere and control the area too- a few times), Tatars, others/and of course the Ottomans.
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Another connection I found is the mytheme of the Indo-European Divine Twins Mánus and Yemós, and the Mayan Hero Twins Hunahpú and Xbalanqué. Mánus sacrificed Yemós to bring order and life to the current world we live in. The soul of Yemós went to the underworld, and thus he became the first mortal. In the myth of Hunahpú and Xbalanqué, their father and uncle Hun-Hunahpú and Vucub-Hanahpú are summoned to the underworld to play a ballgame. They face many trials of trickery, they fail and are killed. Hunahpú and Xbalanqué go to the underworld to avenge their father and uncle, to which they won.
Both myths involve Twins in the underworld in some way. Mánus is the ancestor of humanity in Proto-Indo-European religion, and the Mayan Hero Twins are considered the ancestors to the Mayan ruling classes. With Indo-European tribes, each ethnic group within different linguistic groups had heroes as their founder of the tribe (Hercules of the Dorians and Spartans, Theseus of the Athenians, Saxnōt of the Saxons, and Gaut of the Geats). I also think that the Proto-Indo-Europeans had hero founders of tribes in the mythology of the Proto-Indo-Europeans.
I believe that the Ancient North Eurasian ancestors of the Native Americans, the Indo-Europeans, and the Siberians, also had Divine Twins that involve the underworld in some way.
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Hi Dan, thank you very much and kudos to your next fragment of restoration of the early European archaeological history! Please please please keep them coming! I'm only a common man interested in archaeology. I'm working at the intersection of linguistics, brain science, and computer wicca. I naturally took up historical linguistics but used to be sort of dismissive of the link between languages and cultures (Latin all over Europe or Normann French in England as a societal stratum are counterexamples showing that language ≠ culture). There is a correlation on the whole, but what language which culture spoke is more often is a conundrum than not. I was surprised to learn that Anthony's “The Horse, the Wheel and the Language” has received so much critique, entirely undeservedly if you ask me, from both the linguistics and archeology communities. This at times rose to a grotty level: the burials at Sintasha/Arkhanar(sp?) and smaller surrounding settlement so precisely match the funeral ritual in Rig Veda that it at the least should have been at the least interesting to the archeologists... IMO, the studies combining historic linguistics and archaeology are sorely wanting.
1) A question: were the Únětice culture PIE-speaking? The kurgan burials seem to suggest so, if what you're describing are in fact classified as kurgans.
2) A note: It's been known that the trade around the Mediterranean has not developed money at all, all the way until the 12c. collapse. It's so surprising that a culture of a smaller scale had possibly invented fiat(!) money (there's no intrinsic value in these globular clay tokens) centuries earlier, if it's reasonably confirmed. If so, that attests to the great power of the chiefs, as fiat money are trusted only as much as their guarantor.
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Good video. I was fascinated by this from the moment his discovery was announced, and I ready many of the early studies and accounts of both his body, and all the equipment found with him. Whilst much is speculation, and we can never know much for certain, I think we can safely say some fairly certain things about him. What seems absolutely certain, is that Otzi was primarily a hunter. Much of his food, clothing and equipment was made from wild animals, and wild plants, not domestic animals and plants. Likewise, his equipment of a bow and arrows, and the fact he had started making a new bow, and repairing arrows, says that he was both equipped as a hunter, and was used to making both his own hunting equipment, and clothing.
You would have expected if he was a shepherd, or lived in a primarily agricultural settlement, that far more of his clothing, equipment and food, would have been made from the leftovers of slaughtered sheep or goats, and agricultural plants and grasses. It has been posited, that his bow was used in his role as a shepherd, for driving Wolves etc away. I think this is very unlikely, as a bow is not the best or most effective weapon for either driving Wolves or possibly Bears away, or defending himself against them. Typically a shepherd would be armed with something like a sling, a staff or a spear. It would be wasteful and not very effective, firing arrows at more distant predators, which could easily dodge an arrow fired at them. This is not just speculation. I cannot think of any shepherds, who have typically carried a bow. A sling is not unusual for a shepherd, and a hand spear is far more effective for defending yourself against an attacking animal. Arrows don't have much stopping power, and even if you fatally wounded a bear charging at you with an arrow, it would probably seriously injure or kill you before it succumbed to its wounds.
The food, the equipment and clothing, all point towards a man who was primarily a hunter. It then goes into the realms of speculation, if you start positing whether he was a hunter who lived in a group that also farmed, if he lived in a small hunting community, if he was a loner who often supported himself etc. I'm aware that a lot of excavations of Neolithic settlements from the era, show that even in mainly agricultural communities, there was a certain amount of hunting of wild animals. It is impossible to know whether this was mainly done by specialists who lived in otherwise agricultural settlements, or if many hunted part-time in such communities. However, being as so much of Otzi's clothes and food, was derived from wild animals or plants, it indicates that Otzi's primary activity was hunting.
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I think the very early "berserkers", who were those Koryos unhinged from (their)community and never to return who went on to found their own clans and expand ever on out, were(proto germanic) Erilaz. Erilaz in that language meaning someone who operates enough outside the "natural world" to have mastered certain important esoteric principles and formulas. Otherwise known as rune-masters.
From the word "erilaz" evolves the word "Heruli", the name of an early Germanic tribe that was likely less a migrating group seeking a place to found a Kingdom, and more a mobile tribe of warriors and mystics who raided, fought for money as mercenaries, and generally lived the koryos lifestyle as (for them) a societal norm. Also from the proto germanic word "erilaz", evolves the old norse word "jarl" and the old english word "eorl/earl". An Earl being a tribal chieftain and ideally someone who won that chiefdom by force and actively expands it. As per the Rigsthula of the Poetic Edda:
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Earl grew up there at the hall.
He began to shake linden shields
He fixed bow strings, bent elm,
shafted arrows flung spears, sped lances,
rode horses, hunted with hounds,
swung swords and swam the sound.
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Then (the god) Rig came walking from the grove.
Walking Rig came, taught Earl the runes
and granted his own name,
saying it belonged to his son. Rig bade him take
possession of odal vales and old halls.
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Earl rode further thence through Mirkwood,
over frosty fell, until he came to a hall.
He began to shake spears, to shatter shields.
He rode forth on his horse, swung his sword,
wakened war, bloodied the earth
dropped corpses, fought for land.
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He ruled eighteen halls, he dealt wealth,
and granted it to all. He showered rings,
gifts and jewels, and slender horses.
He divided rings of gold amongst his folk.
I think this bit of the Rigsthula is a variation of a theme as ancient as the Koryos. I do not think any daughter culture of the proto indo european has maintained and centralized the koyros phenomenon as much the germanics have. My best bet is that the pre-proto germanic PIE dialect was spoken by late koryos who had congealed into their own mobile tribe much as the Herulians did later on. When this tribe had evolved and differentiated itself enough to be truly distinct from the broader PIE homogenous society, they became their own people, literally a fusion of "the people and army", the word they called themselves and which we today call ourselves: the folk. This was right about 1,000 BCE, the same time as the Great Germanic Soundshift, when proto germanic became its own language separate from proto indo european.
There is a bit of supposition laden belief that Odin somehow usurped Tyr as the leader of the Aesir or "top Germanic god". I posit that Tiwaz was never that chief and that without Wodanaz, you do not even have a significant enough differentiation from proto indo european to constitute a separate culture or society. Aka No Chief Odin, no Germanic divergence from proto indo european. Because Tiwaz stays at home, not only in the community as an established male, but as the Irminsul; the axis mundi, the central reference point of cosmic and moral orientation, and as has survived in the Old English Rune Poem, the north star by which geographic navigation can be oriented.
Likely, just prior to the 1st germanic sound shift, the myth went that Wodanaz brought home a wolf which Tiwaz had to deal with, and which bit off his sword hand, making Wodanaz chief by necessity. The allegory would be that the wolf brought home was the wolf within the "koryos", which would grow so massive that it would consume not only the "koryos" but all of society ("the world") along with it. This would eventually happen no mater what, but could be delayed for as long as possible if societal moral orientation were to shift to become far more tolerant of "wolf like" behavior. What does the word "gleipnir" mean after all, but "the open one". The binding of the wolf is a trick and only the wolf believes it, after all, the locks which "bind" him have been open the whole time. As a result, "justice" is halved, Tiwaz loses his arm (his ability to effectively control chaos), the wolf god is ascended and will harry all known worlds for at least the next 3,000 years. In the words, or at least the spirit, of Heisenberg from the show Breaking Bad, "I am not the one who loses the hand, I am the one who bites it off".
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great video! i didn't know about this site! this time period was the most significant in European history in regards to laying the foundation of genetic and cultural stock for what all Europe would be until modern times. Its the secret past just beyond the known written one. IMO i think that corded ware culture brought the horse into Europe along with a warrior culture, while metallurgy was controlled by the southeastern nation states of the time. The horse riding warriors made good capital equity through their actions, and created a demand for metal weapons. These warriors in turn merged with metallurgists to control the arms production and create a syndicate. This syndicate used economics and imperial conquest to seed the first warrior kings throughout Europe who would than conquer and impose on the local populations, and the outcome was the cultures we know later, Celts, Germans, Latins, Eutruscans, Greeks, Iberians, slavs ect. ect.
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You ask for comments on the Nebra disk. This comment is about the social nature of ritual of the period, practices that actually had Neolithic origins, but carried over to the Bronze Age due to the nature of the transition, with Neolithic holy sites remaining holy for some centuries in many cases. Ritual sites seem to have been places where people gathered from vast distances, for events taking place at the solstices, and the winter solstice in particular, in spite of the difficulty of winter travel. Travel was by water when possible. A gathering was not always the assemblage of some existing entity such as the land of a high king; rather it was the gathering of many clans or regions (perhaps each clan had a region: Scottish clans did, Scythian clans did not). They participated in the gathering by region, with each region (or clan) having a designated segment of the site. There may have been a high king in some cases, but the clans (or regions) remained important. A holy gathering place was not primarily a residential site, although a few people lived there year round. It was not the high king's great hall. It was not primarily a cemetery. Participants built boothies for the winter gathering. The main ritual activity was a procession. An important person, priest or king or priest-king, arrived (often by water) and went up a processional avenue to a circular site, and then went around it. So outside the outermost ring of posts was the processional circle, and outside that, a barrier between the ritual space and the ordinary space beyond. The ordinary space was divided like the segments of an orange, with each segment belonging to one clan or region. Work to build or improve the site was organized by clan, with each clan being responsible for a section; the splendor of the work was the clan's honor.
The processional way came to the circle from the direction of a solstice sunrise or sunset, and the king or priest arrived just as the setting or rising solstice sun shone on his face. On the cart he rode, was a disk, bright on one side and dull on the other, and at the climax the disk was turned around, or they used two disks, for day and night. The Nebra disk is the night disk.
The point of all this calendar sky-watching was to determine, or set, on which day of the lunar month did the winter solstice occur. This number was carried back home by the participants, and was necessary for the practical functions of a calendar, that is to make appointments and have people show up on the right day. Without a calendar you can't have scheduled markets or religious festivals, and you don't even know whether the coming year will have 12 lunar months, or 13. Determining the date of the solstice is difficult, and if two places both try, they will often set different dates. A single central site must set the date of the solstice, but only a single number, the day of the lunar month that it fell on, needs to be carried back home by each party, for the whole region to enjoy the benefit of everyone using the same calendar.
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The Ancient Hunnic tribes,the ancestors of the Hungarian people,were said to be the greatest horsemen,and it is said the Greek myth of the Centaur,derives from the ancient Greeks witnessing the Hunnic warriors skill as riders,and that the warrior and horse moved as one,it could mean Chiron the Centaur,that taught Achilles the ways of war,might of been real person,perhaps a Hunnic warrior???...In myth there always lies a scintilla of Truth...Excellent channel,makes you think..👍👍👍
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Trypillia was bait, but this was the hook that got me. I might even buy one of your books now. More long form vids FTW.
A few things you don't mention, that might provide ideas for your current work: Almendres Cromlech in Portugal I understand to be the oldest standing stone circle. So, while Brittany was certainly a center of the culture, it might have spread from south to north, due to changes in growing patterns & solar cycles. Perhaps that pattern is recreated in one of the expansions you describe, & why Orkney held such pre-eminence. One could suppose this culture emanated from the stargazing, seafarers of the Mediterranean - they were clearly connected spiritually & culturally to star movements, necessarily. There's a lot of research & speculation about solar & star alignments (that doesn't involve aliens, giants, or ley lines) but your video here made me realize something I hadn't before: What if the stone circle/clocks were a technological innovation enabling the culture to "control time", i.e., know when to plant, move cattle, etc. >as a solution to the boom/bust cycle<? Mallory has some things about this in relation to the earliest Irish myths, but I am reflecting about our modern movement toward regenerative animal agriculture. Not just crops, but when & how to move cattle, a la Alan Savory & mob grazing techniques. Transhumance, but in a more planned, sophisticated, centralized way. This could explain why the elite emerged, why they had so much power, and why they became insular & incestuous. They were needed, but few could transmit the knowledge in a pre-literate society.
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One also must remember how rich this would’ve made anything involved in the industry, as is today. The charcoal needs wood, so lots of timber fellers, transporting it, and then making charcoal. That is an in-depth process in and of itself. Now needed are craftsmen to manufacture the tools for mining and forestry. Also, the people to harvest food and water to supply those efforts. Any tribe that took on such an operation would’ve been surely wealthier than surrounding tribes. This also means you need warriors to defend such an area, and subsequently more food producers to sustain a standing militia/army. Tired, broken, and battered miners don’t make for quality soldiers or night watchmen. Like the Gold Rush or Computer Age of contemporary times, much wealth was spread around, even if not entirely “equitable” in its distribution. I’m sure slave labor or “indentured people” were used for mining and physical labor which it still is arguably used to this day. But surely, to take on an endeavor would mean hard work, but more wealth as a whole, for all, even the slaves.
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An interesting parallel would be the confederacy of the Mandan people whose "super villages" flourished on the Upper Missouri river between c.1500-1782, after which the introduction of European diseases caused a precipitous decline. Migrants from the east (possibly Ohio), they introduced maize-agriculture to the Great Plains. They allied themselves to a local nomadic tribe, the Hidatsa, who adopted their lifestyle but maintained their independence. The Mandan-Hidatsa began to trade their crops with the many tribes of the plains. Their large villages consisted of concentric circles of family huts around a central plaza. This acted as an "agora" and its religious importance did not necessitate any structure. Government was conciliar in the manner of many confederacies and tribes in the U.S. and Canada (many of which ultimately developed highly formal democratic institutions). Farm production was in the hands of women, who owned produce as individual property. Young men ventured out to explore and establish trading routes to distant tribes. Any youth was entitled to do so, but they were bankrolled by various clan elders and private societies. Trading networks extended across much of North America, involving a host of food staples (such as pemmican, produced by buffalo-hunting tribes), copper, volcanic glass, skins, seafood, textiles, art objects and luxury goods. For example, Mandan women mass-produced fancy combs from dentallium seashells purchased from the Pacific coast, and sold them to eastern tribes as far as the Atlantic (they did not use such combs themselves). At their apogee, their trading network covered an area as large as Europe, with numerous trading posts, cyclical rendezvous, trade fairs, and complicated negotiated treaties and alliances. Practising platform "sky burial", they did not leave cemeteries or burial mounds for future archaeologists. All governance was through councils, often with strict democratic procedures. Clan houses acquired varied degrees of wealth and prestige, displayed in "medicine bundles" and other abstract signs. Sacred areas and religious ceremonies did not need special buildings. War was not unknown to these people, and the villages were surrounded by defensive palisades, but the maintenance of peace to maximize trade was always the priority. There were never Lords or Kings. During the latter half of their "golden age", the introduction of the horse began to radically transform the nomadic plains tribes into stronger and stronger military forces. The Mandan-Hidatsa confederacy was at first the beneficiary of horse trading and horse breeding, and grew even more prosperous, but when weakened by disease, they ultimately succumbed to conquest. The great villages were, one after another, diminished, depopulated, and destroyed. The Mandan and Hidatsa remain, in a few scattered corners, but are greatly overshadowed by the plains tribes such as the Lakota, who are the iconic image of plains culture today.
Being closely familiar with this history, you can see why it was easy for me to imagine similar elements and processes among the Cucuteni-Tripolye peoples. Whether these are valid parallels or not, of course, is presently unknowable.
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As a horseman for 50 years, I can say, that hardware isn't needed to ride or control a horse. Saddles, reins, bits, stirrups, spurs, shoes, etc were developed over the centuries to expand and enhance the horse's use.
I think, that the best theory is, because prehistoric Humans likely goofed around as much or more as us "civilized" descendants, horseback riding began as a "Hey. Watch this" exercise by some guy goofing around with his buddies and riding a horse "piggyback", as if they were a child on their father's shoulders. Then his buddies, competitive as guys are, when it comes to goofing around, tried to one up eachother, and see who could ride the longer distance without falling off, etc.
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Maybe I'm just biased because I love this outdated book series Earths Children, but I felt it gave a very realistic approach and hypothesis to at least the start of horse domestication and riding. It is pretty outdated, not inaccurate per say, more outdated as it fit what we knew at the time it was written, and adapted to fit while maintaining earlier story elements as time went on. (No book series is good when it starts off as women Neanderthals werent allowed to hunt, only to find out two books, ten to fifteen years later that oh look! Women Neanderthals DID hunt after all! And change that already key element that literally made the first book in the first place).
In the series, the main girl is all by herself and has to figure out how to survive. The story focuses heavily on examples of how we could've used our brains to problem solve certain problems. For this girl, the problem was to safely a hunt horses and other big game for enough meat and other materials such as fat, sinews, fur, ect, to last through the cold winter.
She comes up with the idea to dig a trap, and sure enough, a mare falls in, she's kills it, and is able to start her winter supply. But the mare had a foal she didn't notice at first, and feels bad, having just had to leave her own child behind with her old group, or clan. So she does what many female animals do when faced with a baby of another species after losing their own, and takes it in and adopts it. The foal grows into a mare that trusts the girl and they even form a sort of language, or better to say, the horse learns key words from her such a food, water, go, no, ect. Basically, whatever most pets basically learn from their owners (my cat actually understands a lot, even if she doesn't act like she does lol. Its honestly amazing how well our pets can understand our language.)
Eventually, its kind of like the racing game described in this video. The girl gets curious, wondering what it would be like to fly on the back of the mare, and climbs on. The mare is trusting of her, so she lets her, and runs freely.
Eventually, the girl figures out her new equine friend/child can be a lot more helpful to her, chasing down prey, but more importantly, carrying it back to her cave. So she creates a makes shift pole sled to carry carcasses back.
When she finally meets people of her own kind, she was raised by Neanderthals, the people are actually terrified of her, thinking she could be an evil spirit. Eventually, they too see what's actually going on, and agree the horse is more helpful. But still like to eat them. So while her horse was special, others weren't off limits.
I should note, she didn't have a saddle, or bit, or even a blanket at first. She went bare back, holding onto the mane, and letting the horse decide where to go, not exactly lead her unless danger was present. It wasn't until later she finally put a blanket on, and even that was more for the horse than her. She had a rope, but that was to guide the horse, when she wasn't on it, not a reins so to speak. She used the mane, sounds, and movements to guide the horse when she was trying to, not a rope in the nose or attached to some bit. And while the people agreed her horse was useful, not many were too eager to change their ways and go catch a horse to ride and keep as a pet. Horses were still food, and the thought of riding one still terrified many. Even being pulled by one brought fear in most.
Thats to say, the adults. The children of course thought it was awesome and wanted to be just like the horse riding lady.
Idk, considering we can't really have evidence for bare back riding, except for the little pottery we find, I think its very possible that while we hunted them, we also started to use them as hauling animals. We didn't need to ride them to get to places quicker, we just needed them to hold our supplies, maybe a child or two, on a sled of some sort thats being pulled. And while wheels are helpful, they're not exactly necessary with a powerful animal. Riding on the backs could've been something done by only the fewest and bravest, hence why war fare wouldn't have been going on that way. It would also make sense why the chariot would've come before widescale back riding and why we see it as more of races or games when it does show up. People are stubborn in their ways, change isn't always easy, even in a world thats constantly changing for them. Riding bareback on a powerful beast might not be something most were willing to change to, but a few would.
Thats just my theory lol.
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It is a pity that the European Union allocates funds for nothing but sponsoring excavations and getting the truth about the history of European civilization..........nothing!!!
As a European citizen and as a Bulgarian, I am deeply outraged by this.....
And for the video I have no words, it was made more than fascinating, entertaining and educational.......thousands of congratulations for a job well done in creating it. With your video, you also advertise Bulgaria and these incredible finds in the Varna Museum.
I am sure you have impressed many people and encouraged them to visit and get to know them up close. Unlike the museums in Western Europe, the entrance to the Bulgarian ones has a symbolic fee. And believe me, the entire territory of Bulgaria is littered with incredible finds. Even in provincial museums there are many artifacts and beauties to see. It is a pity that many artifacts were exported by illegal groups with property interests from Bulgarian lands and sold to foreign museums. To this day, in private collections, both in Bulgaria and abroad, there are incredible things made of clay, marble and all kinds of metals........jewelry, statues, statuettes, ornaments, coins and everything related to archeology , this is very unfortunate because it is a gain for a certain circle of people and a loss for entire societies!
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I think I can fill in some blank spots by fusing my native Czech and other languages I learned or had been exposed to. I have a page on facebook I call Keltymology. I always say, I don't find nor invent these associations, but they just find me and don't let go. 😁 Here is one of my posts there (it was an Aztec sword from wood and obsidian shards): Well if you remember, I have once tried to resolve a puzzle that got in front of me: a friend of mine, playing in a quasi hobby ancient history Celtic tribe had asked me if I could come up with a name for his newly made Celtic sword. It was an unusual request, but it got me interested in the ancient Gaelic name for swords. And what I found intrigued me: in ancient Welsh they called it "chlodwych". I think in Scottish it was "Caliburn". This crossed in my head with our Czech name for hammer: "kladivo".
Well if you compare the consonants, it is ch (can read as k), so "k-l-d-w", or "c-l-b-n", still close enough.
Before this, I always wondered, why we Czechs call hammer "kladivo", when Russians, along with many other Slavic languages, call it "molotok" or "molot", while Germanic languages have "hammer" or variants thereof? And the French have "marteau".
So I suspected it might had been a remnant of Celts, who used to inhabit our land, Bohemia, prior Czechs came in. The Celts (some of them) were called "Boii", hence our country is called to this day "Boii Haeme", home of the Boii. Well, it might be a coincidence, but even now our national anthem is about "where is our home?".
Obviously this spurred my interest even further: how could a long, slender sword be connected to a hammer??? Nonsense, I thought at first! But then, I realized the "Chlodwych" was soooo similar to a famous French kings names, Louis! Well, to its original shape I mean: Chlodowicus. Would it be possible for kings to be called after a sword? Well yes, why not, if their grandfather was named after a hammer?! Remember Charles Martel? And what is hammer in French? Le marteau! So, Charles Martel meant "Charles the Hammer"! We know that the French had many kings by the name of Louis - the longest serving king of any kings was Louis XIV - he had reigned 72 years! But the real Chlodowicus ruled much earlier - in the sixth century. Also named Clovis, this sounds even more Gallic.
So, anyway, back to the question: why is one king named after hammer and another after sword? I was thinking about it for some time and could not imagine how could these two be related. But then the other Celtic name of sword helped me: it was the Caliburn. Obviously, I realized, it had something to do with Excalibur! Ha! It was not a slender sword from the king Arthur's legend, it was an Axe-Caliburn! Meaning, the Excalibur must had been then rather a double edged battle axe! (Btw, here we are about Thor, Zeus or Indra. 😁) And the whole story about Arthur makes suddenly more sense: Arthur wasn't pulling a slender sword from the stone - he pulled out the stone axe from the stone! Meaning, the legend might come even from the paleolitic times, when the skill was how to get a sharp edge of the flintstone! I will elaborate on this - Arthur pulled the core from the flint to make a sword that nobody could match!!! That's the true basis of the story!!!
And this is how the sword had gradually developed from a club to a stone axe and got gradually more and more slender and when the technology changed from stone to metal, the name remained the same. (Here it again correlates so closely to your description of vajra!)
So, on this picture (without hesitation, I didn't check it) (the Aztec picture of the ritual sword that is on my facebook Keltymology page I mean) I dare to say that the pictures on the instrument are typically Aztec, so this must be some sort of ritual sword from the stone age. Not related to Celtic Europe, and even not so old, as Aztecs lived without advanced metallurgy relatively recently, yet nevertheless, this is a proof of my theory - this instrument is a perfect cross between a battle axe and a sword before metallurgy was around.
This is the way the hammer changed to an battle axe (axe-caliburn) and from there to this kind of proto-sword, which was finally replaced by a metal instrument.
There are too many coincidences in my story to discount it as improbable, that's what I think.
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(Disclaimer: Unpopular opinion)
I must say that I'm extremely uneasy with Vlad's status as a hero, a defender of Christendom and the admiration many people seem to have for Vlad.
In the end he was personally respondible for a huge toll not only on the Ottomans, but on his own people. He literally tortured tens of thousands to death, many of which peasants and soldiers innocent and powerless, reduced to material the rulers threw at each other. All of which to defend a country that he personally made sure was devastated, to defend a faith that legalized all this and, above all, to retain his own selfish power.
Only to achieve next to nothing, for Walachia soon came under Ottoman power and stayed under Ottoman power for years to come, for which, ironically, the devastation, unrest and misery his rule left proved to be the best condition imaginable. For me this doesn't add up to a great ruler, but a ruthless brute who lacked the foresight, the mercy and the wisdom a ruler should have.
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@DanDavisHistory Deforestation is not that big of a deal, that is exaggerated a lot by some NGOs and such. And the wildlife is also ok. The loses are cultural, with the youngsters in the countryside all having smartphones, mobile internet and growing up with Netflix, Facebook, YouTube and so on like almost everywhere in the world. They all want to leave the old ways behind and move to cities. The future generations will be all the same no matter where they were born. This way cultures are disappearing before they are recorded properly or studied.
BTW, I thought about the circle dances and they were and still are widespread. Probably they are way older than Cucuteni culture and known to other cultures at that time. The oldest recorded circle dances were in Greece, since they were the only ones leaving written records in these parts. From that the modern word choreography, as in ancient Greece choreia meant circle dance while chorus meant something like group singing.
Circle dances in eastern Europe are all named with words related to choreia like hora in Romania and Moldova, horo in Bulgaria and so on going even to Russia, Caucasus and Anatolia. The distribution seem to correspond with the former Byzantine empire and Ortodox world.
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I raised a dog from the age of 7. We hunted and we herded cattle together. When I was 19, my dog slipped on ice, fell beneath a visitor’s tires and sustained a painfully crippling injury. My dad and I drove through a blizzard at night to a vet. My dog whimpering, screaming. I carried him in. I held him during the injection. I carried his limp body back to the van. We drove home. We told my mom and sister who burst into tears. I wanted to bury him that night. So, Dad and I drove to the highest point on our farm. It commanded no view in the blizzard and dark. We cleared away snow. We broke through frozen earth to the loose soil beneath and dug deeply. We placed him and covered him. My dad in broken voice saying, “He was a good dog”. Returning home I went to my room. Lay down and finally permitted myself just one tear. One. (At that time I thought this manly virtue, not repression).
Those boys were well practiced at killing. Having witnessed the slaughter of steers from my toddlerhood, hunted and sometimes killed sick animals, I’m confident they were fine with killing. I believe these boys were bearing the responsibility of manhood. Hands steady, their strike sure. No hesitation. What greater shame than two strikes? What betrayal to the dog if I must strike twice. What a burden of shame and guilt to not follow through and do it right. If you can’t do right by your dog their is no man to be found in you. Your dog fears death no more than napping. But aged with muscles stiff, eyes graying and easily winded; what troubles the dog is not being able to keep up with you; For to be with you in hunting and herding and feasting is All to them. When the time comes, a man does what he must. The old men know. As I chew the roasted flesh, my faithful companion and joyful servant joins my life as a man. My dear dog, what greater honor there may be, I am not worthy to offer. You gave all. May I be worthy of thee. I shall remember you even as I do my duty. These men knew fate called on them to give their life. They would go to their fate as willingly and gracefully as their dogs. And If fate should call on them to a strike a mercy killing of father, brother or friend, they would.
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I like this last idea you came with, as I often find some archeologists' explanation attempts to lack it, that these prehistorical times, with super low population density, extreme isolation, and harsh conditions, should in fact have been ideal for sub-cultures appearence. For the better or the worse. Even modern stories are plenty of isolated groups of people, small communities, ending to developp their own habits, customs or words from their own cultural background. I'm pretty sure that some communities would have taken ritualistic cannibalism to another level, it only takes one charismatic leader, one powerful warchief, to force his own style on the tribe if its members are cut out from other cultural exemples and boundaries for too long. I mean the most precise things we have to distinguish cultures from that times are burial methods or items like potteries. Imagine what kind of sub-cultural differenciations can lay in-between!
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Every video Dan makes is a must match in my books! But his Bronze age, and Neolithic videos are especially great, and are my particular favourite time periods!
Keep on crushing it Dan! Your work gets better and better, and so many of us greatly appreciate what you do! You are just such a fantastic writer, and the stories really come alive when you tell them. Keep it up, I wish you all the success in the future, and that you so clearly deserve, particularly for such fantastic writing and storytelling. I am just imagining how much better a high budget Bronze Age documentary would be if you were hired to write and do the narration for it!
Just imagine how fantastic it would be if you Dan had access to the funds for a full blow documentary, with actors, re-enactments, video editors, CGI, on location filming, and even a top notch Sound Designer!
If anyone in a decision making position within a production company that makes high budget documentaries has seen your work, and hasn’t immediately contacted you, need to have their brains checked 😂! If I were in their position, I would be scrambling to get you onboard to write and direct documentaries!
Curious as to if Dan has been approached at all to do some freelance writing for any bigger production…
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@DanDavisHistory I think those books will come in five to ten years, you are a bit ahead of your time. I don't want to lament academia aby more than I usually do, but history education now is an autodidactic process more than a systemic one, for most people. In the early and mid 20th century, history was taught in schools so once a real higher learning consensus was formed in regards to any breakthroughs, the information was disseminated as part of the curriculum. The teaching of history now is generally designed around the student coming to certain political conclusions, so it is a far less effective (if not altogether counterproductive) process. And I don't think we are going to be able to teach much about the bronze age on any level without involving Indo-European studies, and Indo-European studies is unfortunately perceived as anathema to current teaching goals. So it just going to take longer, but it will happen. As CG Jung said, " An archetype is like an old watercourse along which the water of life has flowed for centuries, digging a deep channel for itself.
The longer it has flowed in this channel the more likely it is that sooner or later the water will return to its old bed.” Your videos are extremely well crafted, especially as you seamlessly weave together multiple components (which can be difficult on their own) into a narrative that is engaging and accurate. Your Koyros video is a really great example of that as you essentially described the migration process of the proto Indo-Europeans westward eventually into neolithic europe itself. The event is one of the most important things that has ever happened. Like top 5 important. But you broke it down into tasty, concise and informative bites. The concise bit I personally struggle with obviously ;-) So you are doing what you can do. Lots to say on how the process can be accelerated but I am likely nearing or already past the tldr threshold. I'll look you up on FB. Thanks again for making these videos. Your work overall does a service.
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Do we know whether any IE-adjacent non-IE group ever adopted this practice? (Prime candidates: some Uralic groups seem to have been in such close contact with IE tribes that it really would surprise me if they didn't. The Basque were basically surrounded by Celts for a while, which should be a pretty solid source for this kind of custom. Semitic-IE interaction has gone on for ages. NE and NW Caucasian tribes have had a bunch of warbandy practices, and I bet the Kartvelians were into that as well. Turkic and Mongolic tribes?)
I live in the Swedish-speaking parts of Finland, and in my home village, there's still two traditions that probably go back to the koryos. "Rivannatten" - the night of tearing, which occurs during easter. The youth commit mild vandalism. "Feittisdagen" - shrove tuesday, during which the youth dress up as monsters, and walk through the village causing quite a ruckus, in a symbolically violent event. I am not aware of any similar things in the Finnish-speaking parts of Finland, yet we know that southwest Finland was IE before becoming Finnic at some point - and genetically, this does not seem to have been the result of a population change, but a language change.
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I'm speechless 😶 no.1 omg this guy was vile to the very core, no.2 I actually forgot I was on YouTube until the end, In my head I was watching a documentary on Netflix, you are TV quality material, this was a TV quality documentary, only one other Youtuber has managed to keep my adhd attention, I'm 51 so it is extremely hard to do, I normally scroll constantly except when someone is doing a reaction where every video is different. I didn't notice if the video was long or not and was disappointed when it ended, if it wasn't 2am right now I would watch another, thank you for such incredible quality work. What a diamond in the rough, wow 🤯🙂🏆⭐️🇦🇺👍.
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This is the best report I have seen on Ötzi. I appreciate that some of the wilder theories were mentioned but dismissed, and in the end, just the facts were left to speak for themselves. I really laughed at the Vegan and human sacrifice references. Ötzi and his clan lived on the edge, and couldn't risk their health by not eating meat and dairy. I'm pretty sure human sacrifice was very rare in cold climates. Ötzi was the age when he would be a chieftain or leader in his clan. There are no wars or battles in the alpines, so it was probably 1, 2, or 3 that chased or crept up and murdered him on orders of a chieftain, or as said, it could have been a hunting accident. The hunting mate may have been ashamed of shooting his partner, and simply told the clan he disappeared. Brilliant video, great job!
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Thank you for this successful introduction into the beginnings of the millennia-old relationship between humans and horses. Into a
relationship that has literally changed the course of things. As difficult as this may be for the descendants of Western European farmers to understand. A real rider does not need any tools to ride a horse. A real rider rides from his center, out of his own balance and is able to lead a properly ridden horse just by the action of his body. Riding is a symbiosis between horse and rider. Riding is not the subjugate of an intelligent, social creature, as is still the order of the day in Western Europe and elsewhere. From both sides – mother and father – I come from ancient equestrian families. We are descendants of the Sarmats. Already the "Imperium Romanum" used my ancestors as elite riders at all its focal points. As "Croatian military borderers" (Habsburg) we paid no taxes, did not pay any levies. Our only obligation to the "Holy Roman Empire" was to be fully equipped for military service from the age of 16 at all times, until our death, and to be available for military service with two spare horses. From the rank of lieutenant, we had the privilege of an audience with the emperor at any time. My great-grandfather was the last in our family to lead the lance (Ulan) for the emperor during World War I. The privileges we enjoyed for centuries resulted from our special suitability for warfare on horseback. When my mother was 12 years old, there was no horse between the cities of Zagreb, Karlovac and Sisak on which she could not – without any aids – sit up and down at full gallop, including riding the horse. By – without aids – I mean a naked horse, without a saddle, without bridles. Some of the theories/explanations/justifications, of the "bookworms" who feel called to ponder the topic of "riding", I can therefore not take seriously in view of my own history. As plausible as these explanations may seem to "pedestrians". Recent archaeological excavations show relatively clearly where riding – the symbiosis between horse and man – has developed. Anyone who has ever seen the symbiosis, the connection between rider and horse, for whom the bookworm theories mentioned in this – otherwise wonderful contribution – are irrelevant, because meaningless.
Danke für diese so gelungene Eiführung in die Anfänge der Jahrtausende alte Beziehung zwischen Menschen und Pferden. In eine Beziehung, die buchstäblich den Lauf der Dinge verändert hat. So schwierig das auch – für die Nachfahren westeuropäischer Bauern
– zu begreifen sein mag. Ein echter Reiter braucht keine Hilfsmittel um ein Pferd zu reiten. Ein echter Reiter reitet aus seiner Mitte, aus seinem eigenen Gleichgewicht heraus und ist in der Lage allein durch das Einwirken seines Körpers ein richtig eingerittenes Pferd zu führen. Reiten ist eine Symbiose zwischen Pferd und Reitern. Reiten ist nicht das Unterwerfen einer intelligenten, sozialen Kreatur, so wie es in Westeuropa und anderswo noch immer an der Tagesordnung ist. Von beiden Seiten – Mutter wie Vater – entstamme ich uralten Reiterfamilien. Wir sind Nachfahren der Sarmaten. Schon das „Imperium Romanum“ setzte meine Vorfahren als Elitereiter an allen seinen Brennpunkten ein. Als „Kroatische Militärgrenzer“ (Habsburg) zahlten wir keine Steuern, leisteten keine Abgaben. Unsere einzige Verpflichtung dem „Heiligen Römischen Reich“ gegenüber war es, ab unserem vollendetem 16ten Lebensjahr jeder Zeit, bis zu unserem Tode, voll gerüstet und mit zwei Ersatzpferden für den Kriegsdienst zur Verfügung zu stehen. Ab dem Dienstgrad eines Leutnants hatten wir das Privileg einer jederzeitigen Audienz beim Kaiser. Als letzter in unserer Familie führte mein Urgroßvater im I. Weltkrieg die Lanze (Ulan) für den Kaiser. Die Privilegien, die wir über Jahrhunderte hinweg genossen, resultierten aus unserer besonderen Eignung für die Kriegsführung zu Pferd. Als meine Mutter 12 Jahre alt gewesen ist, gab es zwischen den Städten Zagreb, Karlovac und Sisak kein Pferd, auf das sie nicht – ohne jedes Hilfsmittel – im vollen Galopp hätte auf- und absitzen können, reiten des Pferdes inbegriffen. Unter – ohne Hilfsmittel – verstehe ich ein nacktes Pferd, ohne Sattel, ohne Zaumzeug. Manche der Theorien/Erklärungen/Begründungen, der „Bücherwürmer“, die sich da berufen fühlen, über das Thema „Reiten“ zu sinnieren, kann ich angesichts meiner eigenen Geschichte, deshalb nicht ernst nehmen. So plausibel diese Erklärungen für „Fußgänger“ auch erscheinen mögen. Neuere archäologische Ausgrabungen zeigen relativ deutlich auf, wo sich das Reiten – die Symbiose zwischen Pferd und Mensch – entwickelt hat. Wer jemals die Symbiose, die Verbindung zwischen Reiter und Pferd gesehen hat, für den sind die in diesem – sonst wunderbarem Beitrag – erwähnten Bücherwurmtheorien irrelevant, weil bedeutungslos.
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dear Dan, thank you for the concise informative documentary delivered in a pleasant voice.. I am coming across the Yamnaya in a lot of historical docs, in different videos, one featuring ancestors of indo europeans and one searching for basque ancestors, which is confusing to me as the basque were not supposed to be indo european, maybe different off shoots of yamnaya ancestors ? at any rate, since, there not a lot of seafarers quite that early, it makes sense that european ancestors moved quickly by horseback. at any rate, i will look out for more of your vids, that was great.
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If you are intrested in ancient indo-european history, learning some Finnish can be enjoyable.
Finnish language has preserved not only many of the proto-indo-european words, but also hints of their original meaning.
If we look at the English word hammer, it is clearly the same word as Finnish hamara.
Hamara means the dull side of an axe, sword or knife. So in your stone battle-axe there would
be the sharp end, the axe, and the dull end, the hamara.
Word for hammer in Finnish then again is vasara. Which is clearly the same word as vasra, the weapon
of Indra in sanskrit.
There is also word vasama in Finnish. If you look at the endings of the words in Finnish, vasara is something that
you use to create vasama. Vasama means lightning bolt.
I would be pretty confident that myth of Thor and Indra have the same root. Same legendary person or group of people.
If you think of what is a hammer that strucks lightning for mainly stone age people, to me pretty obvious answer would be metal hammer. Flashing in the sun and striking sparkles. Vasra of Indra is always depicted as a metal weapon. Although a club, but so much later the original thing has been forgotten.
Taking in consideration the status of metal axe-hammer that we know there had to be, when stone axes were intentionally made to mimic metal. I would bet Thor's hammer and Indra's club were not stone axes, but copper or bronze axe-hammers.
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Very interesting! One thing I'm wondering about is that you don't mention the "landscape" in the images. I mean, the background of the rock art you show from 9:39 to 9:44 looks very much like some kind of geography -- rivers, shores, inland territory, islands... I actually can't imagine that this interpretation was missed by the researchers, but as you don't mention it, I wanted to bring it up. And on top of that, it seems to me that some of the boats are either in the process of construction or damaged in conflict. Probably the latter, which could mean that a specific event is shown. Or maybe rather various specific events, merged into one picture.
Anyways, great channel! Love your work. Really inspiring and informative content. Thanks!
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I'm a "Horse Warrior", (a Dragoon), - or rather, I used to be, I'm too old and too messed up to be it anymore.
Only, we replaced our horses with vehicles....
Today, at least where I live, the only real "Horse Warriors" we have left is the Guard Hussars....
But today the horses is only for parades - no more charging the enemy with bows and arrows, lance, sabers/swords, or guns...
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This was an interesting video for me. Since I believe in reincarnation, it is an example, of how people behaved, that didn't. It seems they were crazy, but justified that. And ramifications of that, have survived to present day. Now tho, most people have lost all moral compass. They believe, in only the present time, and life. This makes people extremely greedy, and so, causing havoc in societies, and the environment.
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I do wonder about some of this. The coincidence of the shape, wrapping, and character of the metal of the Yamnaya copper object with the vajra is intriguing. (And I had to check the bit in Anthony about it. Pity he only devotes 1 or 2 paragraphs to it.)
But was it an actual weapon? The trouble is that, as you know, copper is quite soft. Early copper objects were sometimes simply cold-hammered into shape from copper nuggets. It doesn't really stand up to pounding at all or any kind of bending stress at all. (This is, I think, one reason why we have a Chalcolithic/Eneolithic rather than a Copper Age. Its utility was limited until it was discovered how to harden it, making it into bronze.) The club from the Kutuluk kurgan seems to have been properly smelted and forged, but still: How could a copper club of that weight see any sort of use as a weapon and still retain its shape? Granted that it's probably still harder than a human skull, I'd expect even the momentum of swinging it around to deform it between the handle and the head. A person of ordinary strength could probably bend it right in half without much effort.
But as a ceremonial symbol of authority derived from a club? That's another story. There are numerous parallels throughout all history, from the Scorpion macehead of Protodynastic Egypt to the maces of the UK Parliament.
Still, very suggestive.
I meant to remark on the difficulty of distinguishing the sky-god and the thunderer, focusing on the crossover in attributes and the lack of some attributes we might expect in some, but it was turning into a novel.
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I'd like to consider some mythological and semi historical sources for this as well. The Greeks with their blessed written sources have the mythological creature the Centaur, which are likely a mythologised version of a mounted warrior, or at least a mounted herder or hunter. Given the Centaur's appear in several well known and recorded myths they should be a well established and thus old concept for even for these early written sources. The early Greek world's proximity to Anatolia rather than the eurasian steppes would also suggest that horseback riding was practiced even earlier than it was first seen or heard of by the early Greeks.
If I'm not mistaken, the Scythians are known to have been a nomadic and very much mounted people which were present in the western steppe region as early as 1400 BC. There also seem to be some certainty that the later Schythian tribes in fact had mounted warriors and widely practiced mounted warfare at least in the eighth or ninth century BC.
Given all of the above, I think it is fairly certain that horseback riding was first practiced very early, if only first as a mode of transport.
Tangentially, though I have little to no basis in saying this, I like to think that horses were used as pack-animals very earl on, almost as soon as herding/domestication began. Then it is not too far fetched that a person leading a horse along while it carries the family's belongings on its back, would also put their younger child there so they needn't travel to new pasture on foot. When a son would grow up to a man, perhaps he would not like to stop riding the horse around, learning to control the animal with his knees and heels as we know I possible, if difficult. When the time came for the adolescent to go through his rituals for manhood, perhaps something very similar to the Koryos you have described yourself in earlier videos, he might have carried out raids or even battles from the back of his long time companion...
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I really love your skepticism here, really one of the reasons why I love your channel. I'm not entirely convinced by the rock carvings cited are really that great evidence for sail, even though this topic is really interesting and it is a really good inquiry to explore!
However, I think the shapes on the boats of the rock carvings, cited in this paper do not necessarily have to represent sails, at least not all of them.
The carvings in the study are taken out of their contexts. I think many of these lines that are thought to be a sail could refer to events happening on a boat, either mythical or real. Like something being carried on a boat. Many scholars here in Sweden agree that many Bronze age rock carvings in our country, often are narrative, sort like a comic book.
One myth often depicted on Swedish Bronze age carvings (and in other European countries) is the story of the moon (and/or the sun) being stolen by someone (a god or evil being) and put on a ship, then often being hidden in the sea. This myth is probably depicted on many of these carvings but interpreted as "a sail". The stealing of the moon is very probably featured on the Kivik grave carvings. In Finnish mythology the stealing of the "Sampo" - a mystical machine, is a similar myth (where the Sampo ends up on the bottom of the sea and spews out gold and salt).
I think this study "cherry picks" several carvings out of their narrative, but I understand it's a very hard thing to study as we do not have the "correct" interpretations of the carvings. They are most likely lost in time forever. However: people who know this stuff should really go ahead and study it further!
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As a horseman for 50 years, I can say, that hardware isn't needed to ride or control a horse. Saddles, reins, bits, stirrups, spurs, shoes, etc were developed over the centuries to expand and enhance the horse's use.
I think, that the best theory is, because prehistoric Humans likely goofed around as much or more as us "civilized" descendants, horseback riding began as a "Hey. Watch this" exercise by some guy goofing around with his buddies and riding a horse "piggyback", as if they were a child on their father's shoulders. Then his buddies, competitive as guys are, when it comes to goofing around, tried to one up eachother, and see who could ride the longer distance without falling off, etc.
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I was shown a full body x-ray, it had a -
skull fracture,
a cheek fracture,
multiple breaks to the nose,
a fractured jaw,
4 missing teeth & one severely chipped
a broken vertebrae in it neck (C7),
a broken collarbone,
seven broken ribs,
a fractured sternum,
every digit (except the right little finger) had been broken.
Fractures to both wrists,
a piece of bone the size of a baked bean had broken off the right elbow and healed in the wrong location - making it painful to lean on the right elbow.
A broken vertebrae in his lumbar area ,
a injury to his pelvis.
various fractures to both of his tibia and his fibula,
a fracture to his left heel
and a couple of broken toes.
What was surprizing was the X-Ray was of me, and I've never spent a night in hospital.
I've never led a particularly action packed life (I'm not a MMA fighter or the worlds unluckiest stuntman) But I picked up and 'walked off' injuries as a kid. I'm in reasonably good health
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Believe it or not, his mtDNA is of Hunter gatherer origin. The specific subclade his line belonged to, K1+16362, is only found in Mesolithic European hunter gatherers. It was particularly common in hunter gatherers in Southeastern Europe.
K1a, K1b1, K2, K3 are of West Asian origin
K1+16362, K1c, K1b2 are of European origin.
I think K1+16362 should be renamed to K1d. It would be less confusing. In that case Otzi's mHg should be called K1d3. It is true his specific subclade of "K1d" has not been found in any other person. But, his subclade of K1 is found in European hunter gatherers & modern Europeans.
The safest bet is he got it from hunter gatherers in Southeastern Europe. 10% of Mesolithic samples from Serbia, Romania carry K1d.
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Very cool. And what a strike of fortune, that his remnants were found when they were - not that much earlier and this knowledge we can now gather from the body would have been lost forever.
I thought, that his reconstruction looked likely enough, for an outdoor man his age, btw You get as tan when out and about in winter in the Alps, as when sunbathing on the beach. He would basically have had high levels of UV exposure year round, because of the way, the snow reflects the sun.
The medical tattoos are a faszinating detail as well. And heart desease! Like, what? In a man his age? That was a shocker for sure.
But mostly it just makes my head spin to consider, that different cultures have lived here for many thousands of years, before modern civilization even started. How the heck, they managed to survive out there without modern conveniences or knowledge is beyond me. Especially during the small ice age. Can you imagine? Grass isolation. Out on a mountain in a snowstorm. What a life!
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@DanDavisHistory Yeah, I guess. I don't understand anything about horses. Just read about this horse. The peculiarity is that it comes from autochthonous, from local breeds of steppe and forest types, was formed in conditions of a sharply continental climate with year-round pasture content. She is not some kind of "special," selectable. That is, it is possible that this is the same horse from the region that you showed on the maps. It's unique today. There are few of them. The place of origin of the Volga basin is Samara, Ufa, Kazan. And also the Chelyabinsk region. There is a constant dispute, as registered - the Bashkir, or Tatar breed of horses. In ancient times was named Mashtak, literally - a small, strong horse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIxL4iKLLiw&t=5s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcUAX-mMdFQ
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Im Danish my name is Kenny Hedenskog Bersærker gang, is when viking took their trælle(slaves) and made Them eat poison mushrooms on Danish fluesvamp, then the slaves(trællene) ate the mushrooms and the viking drink their urin, who had filtered the dangerous stof away, then the viking drink a lot of Mjød(strong beer of that time!!) and then in Battle they goes Bersærk or bersærkergang, like crazys with no fear and stronger, like two men.and i myself is 1,90cm 92kg and wery blond hair and beard, but for 1000years ago we where taller about 2meters funny how a country tiny with now only 5,8mill people(5mill Danes rest migrants or trælle😂) togethers with Norway a bit of svea(sweden) we ruled, and struck fear in every nations!! Hail Odin and hes son Thor! Se my friends and brothers in ValHalla.
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Horses are, as you say, social animals used to following leaders. So are sheep and cattle and, even more so, dogs. I've always been fascinated by how well today's dogs get along with today's horses, whilst it's an other kettle of fish (or tea if you prefer...) altogether between dogs and donkeys. I've taken daily care of a donkey and my late dog Kate and she very quickly became great chums, but when I got a 6 weeks old pup I had to start the socialising process with the donkey from scratch again. As a biologist, I think thata very important difference between horses and dogs is that the former follow the lead to get to the right places to eat but are, once there, in competition for the best places ("best" both in food availability and in safety from predators), wild canids depend on team work to get their pails filled. WIth dogs you don't need material stimuli (tidbits) to train them, social compensations suffice. With horses, you need material rewards first and can then shift to social ones, which I called "from carrot to cuddle". I'd like to get other people's opinion on this.
Be all this how it may, both our latter-day dogs and our latter-day horses are, of course, light years away in behaviour from their wild ancestors.
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Finally found the time and got around to listening. Amazing video, what a story, what a man.
Some funny moments for me were when you first mentioned that men weren't speared by bed to which I said out loud "hmmm sounds kinda gay... Ohw 😓"
I wonder what kind of bed talk has been had by some legendary people throughout history, but especially these two...
With the setting shifting from ancient to mediaeval times and the longer episode I noticed an interesting trend by my two absolute favourite (history) content creators, you and the History of the Netherlands Podcast (not on YT, but among other places Spotify), the way little jokes are done, the way historical perspectives are shifted (specifically with truly sketching an situation, the "now imagine if you were there" followed with a vivid yet grounded description), even intonation, sentence flow, pauses and to a degree sentence structuring.. I probably should investigate why it pulls me..
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If you have been in situations where you know you may die, where firearms are involved, or weapons, or you going up against many people at once......There is something that happens inside of you, its like the brain shuts down, and you act like a primal animal, as a protection response. Once upon a time, I was a gang member, who got in to many bad situations. And when I got into these fights, or shootings í would "lose my mind", didn't care if I was shot át, while everyone else ran, I ran towards it, if I was outnumbered í screamed at them and picked the biggest one to fight first, and even had people run from me. Same with jail too. I would act crazy, and they would cower. Not all, bút most. When I was in the military, I had no fear. I was always quick to react and ask questions later. Later after I was out of the gangs, I found out my ancestors are Icelandic, norwegian, and Scottish, they were also warriors who were very well known in Iceland. It all made sense after that.
Now I am Óðins warrior, protect the innocent and never fear death. The gods are always watching us.
SKÁL ⚔🪓
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Im super curious how flexible proto and early PIE speakers were when it came to female warriors and women general roles in society? It of course varied across cultures and time, but I’m thinking of Scythians, Sarmatians, Celtic speakers, Vikings— all descendant PIE speaking cultures that were relatively patriarchal but sometimes were matrilineal (Picts), or had legendary or archaeological evidence of horse riders and shield maidens, or the women enjoyed greater social autonomy compared to stricter patriarchal cultures (Scythians/Sarmatians are likely the origins of the Amazon bc their female warriors were so bizarre to the Greeks). That all came from somewhere, and I wonder if it was original to Yamnaya PIEs or from a substrate contact or developed on its own, etc
Also, i read that the PIE Yamnaya likely had a triple caste of sorts — warrior, priest, and farmer. I wonder what the priest and farmer roles were in this ritual dance (besides avoid the warriors while they proceeded in the wild hunt)
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About the Tollense ancient DNA. I did a video on this btw, but I think you already saw it. You did a good job summarizing it. If you included more details than you did, it would be too confusing. For example, no one cares they had high levels of WHG ancestry, lol. This would not be relevant for your video.
But there is something cool I can tell you here which helps puts the Tollense warrior's DNA in context. So as you know all the Tollense warriors, except a small minority of true foreigners (travelling aristocrat warriors?), had WHG-rich ancestry. Well, this same WHG rich ancestry spread into Serbia & Croatia in the Bronze age. I made a video about this for Serbia. But also, a few weeks ago a study on Croatia, showed some of the Bronze age people there had very high levels of WHG. This means there was a "race" (genos) of WHG rich people, with lots of I2a, moving around in Central Europe. Both tribes involved in the Tollense battle were apart of this phenomena. These were related Bronze age people, who migrated to the Meditereaen and Baltic sea.
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Assuming that culture didn't just started when these clusters of settlements started forming but sort of in a gradual migration (like a glacier towards more hospitable areas) from all the way back in Africa to their region, I'm guessing that this awareness of animalistic worship, foundation of early communication (one guess I have is that the proto-Sinaitic "A" was symbolic for "food", ie. a key sustainable resource), awareness of medicinal properties, etc, and even perhaps the burning of old homes, whatever the reason, were ways that certain colonies handled different situations over generations.
A whole family died from unnatural causes? Burn the home down, because there were previous cases of unchecked spread of that death from that early spot. It may have been forgotten after several hundred years, but why stop a tradition rooted in culture then?
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Fascinating. I'm surprised mythology isn't used more although it's unproveable, etc. Centaurs, for example, may have origins in men on horseback. Or the Amazon women who rode horses & were warrior women, Amazon meaning without breasts, as shooting arrows from horseback was easier without breasts in the way. And indicates the role women played. After all, it's the girls on the steppes who ride ... And the patience required for domesticating these wild animals, like gathering food & herbs, may very well have been a feminine domain, once achieved, turned to warfare by the male of the species, lol. There's also the myth of Athena, the Greek mythology that she gave humaniry the bridle, not necessarily a bit. As the comments note, control the head, control the body. The whole myth of Pegasus, the winged horse, surely speaks of the speed of such an animal, and those few who rode him.
Just as the discoverer of Knossosos on Crete lent veracity to the myth of Theseus, the Minotaur (those bull-leaping mural frescoes) , & the Maze (extensive buildings and underground storage rooms), it's also possible myths about horses have some credence.
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Great video, and I hate to comment on something unrelated to what it was actually about, but I feel kind of obligated to do so since you mentioned getting into bitcoins and NFTs and not really knowing what the deal with them was before the sponsor. The problem is that I am sure all of the information you got, both from friends and the Blinkist stuff, was purely in favor of that stuff and completely ignored all the negatives. There are quite a few problems with that technology, but the big thing boils down to that it's extremely harmful to the environment, even by the already destructive standards of modern society. Because they need to be permanently maintained on computers, they need tons of machines constantly running full bore to upkeep the system, which means there are god knows how many computers draining energy and pumping ridiculous amounts of heat out into an already overheating planet, and for what is in 99% of cases actually a scam. People who want to profit off of them love to make NFTs sound practical and valuable, but they're not, they are useless and morally reprehensible.
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@DanDavisHistory all good the examples are really cool that you showed , it's a bit if a different stile to things in NZ ,the small maori hand clubs get really thin and sharp it's pretty amazing ,and they did alot of adzes , my family has found the odd one of different sizes ,and on one island I grew up on there were large boulders that had been used to grind the stones ,Large Maori canos would travel from the south island up the coast of the north island traiding greenstone as they went .it's all really cool and yeah some took generations to finish ,or like you said if they got damaged they would get ree ground getting smaller , and they were passed down and giving names ,I don't know if your interested it might be something to look at the distribution of stone from different reagons of the pacific apparently there's been greenstone from NZ found in Hawaii and in a ancient Chinese tome ,it's funny you can see some similarities between adzes found in europe and the ones found in sertain pacific regions .....any way have a good one 👍,and thanks I'm really enjoying your videos
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Purely opinion, not claiming it as fact - The convenience of transportable wealth in the form of cattle and sheep at a time before coinage, is something that I think will have played a part in the transition/appeal too. Looking at how later "Danish" farmers supplied meat and dairy to the Romans - access to "the greater market" and "the wealth of empires" being as crucial as it is, I can imagine that many would travel to this new frontier (The Isles) from mainland Europe for the same reasons as later migrations - taking every spare man and woman with them to establish themselves in this new place and protect themselves, in a similar vein to how the Americas were. Once settled and the productivity evaluated and the area "made safe" - the 'outpost' is left on the necessary numbers, or abandoned - the rest going off to start the next or go home home. This wouldn't have been their first rodeo, they'll have heard the stories of their ancestors doing the same things.. The way early Icelanders made do and preserved foods, makes me think that an unstable/changing climate would push people towards animal husbandry/seafood - meat, milk, skins and fertiliser Vs almost a monocrop of Emmer wheat. Ergot and similar will have decimated populations until we started ploughing deep enough (with the necessary help of animals..) - animals will have messed with people too but we built immunities there, we didn't to a fungus. We died. Rye not being widespread, I fully accept - but a few thousand years ago, I'm willing to bet that we had at least a couple of similar dangers across most of our then used crops.
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I am fascinated by the ancient Egyptians' adoption of the chariot and composite bow from the Hyksos about 1700 BC. The New Kingdom, spanning from the late 17th through the 20th Dynasties, gained its power from these weapons, to the end of the Bronze Age. There are many Egyptian chariots preserved, several from Tutankhamun's tomb, and the barracks and stables from the Ramesside priod have been excavated. All of the New Kingdom kings are shown in reliefs riding chariots in stylized battle, and in the case of Akhenaten, he is shown with Nefertiti beside him in a chariot. Of course, the driver is usually omitted from these Pharaonic reliefs, but it's likely that the kings themselves drove chariots for sport and ceremony, and it has been suggested that Tutankhamun died after a chariot accident. I think (but don't recall) that Nefertiti was portrayed driving a chariot herself. The Egyptian chariot was a lightweight and beautiful vehicle, unlike the three-man heavier Hittite chariot, giving the Egyptians a tactical advantage. But nowhere, as far as I know, is a Middle Kingdom Egyptian shown riding a horse.
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I think you made a good assessment. Drew's use of images as evidence is a little disengenious. It's well known that the Mesopotamian cultures used Onagers and Donkeys to pull wagons and as mounts. They often used a nose ring and rope to control Donkeys, Onagers and Oxen. People in the middle-east still use a riding position that involves sitting over the donkey's haunches to this day. Those images could easily display a Donkey, Onager or horse. It would seem logical that when Mesopotamian cultures acquired horses around c.2000 BCE via trade that they may have attempted to ride them like the Donkeys and Onagers they already used.
Literary sources indicate that horse riding was likely occuring before c.2000 BCE certainly on the steppe at least. A certain Mesopotamian tablet has a entry where a courtier is asking his ruler not to ride a horse and should ride a donkey or Onager instead as horses were unpredictable and horse riding was something only "barbarians" did.
As has been pointed out horses of this period were small and not suited to carrying a heavily armed man. Hence the invention of the war chariot where two or more small horses could pull a lightweight wheeled platform and two armoured warriors, since the majority of the weight was borne on the spoked wheels rather than the horses.
This does not mean that horses were not utilised in warfare or did not provide mobility. I cannot believe that any culture that domesticated the horse would not ride it. However these small horses likely only carried a lightly armed man wearing no armour and carrying little more than a hand weapon and spear or bow. The same kind of gear that a man hunting other horses and game would use. Those riding from childhood could easily manage a familiar horse with little more than a belly band, saddle blanket and a halter, leaving no evidence for an archaeologist to find.
I do not believe that horse were ridden "in" battle as a war horse before c.1200 BCE however I think that small warbands, raiders and mounted scouts could ride them "to" battle, providing speedy transport over short distances and the ability to out manoeuvre an enemy on foot. The native American plains tribes used the horse as a missile platform to hunt or harass their enemies, but any serious fighting was done on foot. This tradition continued to the early medieval period. The Anglo-Saxons for example rode horses to the battlefield, but always dismounted to fight on foot when they got there. Only commanders remained mounted using the horse to move around the battlefield and as a viewing platform. They called it a hildsett or "Battle seat".
I don't known why Drew's thinks that the plains tribes are a bad example. Yes they did get the idea of riding horses from the Spanish, but logic would suggest if one tribesmen on the Pontic steppe figured out how to stay on a horse and it made him a better hunter, then soon his neighbours would copy him, and once a bunch of horse riding raiders stole the adjacent tribes cattle, they would soon figure out to how do it too. It's called an "arms race". People do not tend to ignore good ideas right in front of them!
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Fantastic! I watched it and learned a lot and I just know I have to watch it again, so many interesting facts in here.
One thing stuck out to me, the high number of Carpathian and Hungarian armour finds! What was going on there? Maybe a significant trade route for tin or some such? Rich chiefs making lots of armour?
As so often before, there is so little we know of European activity. Anything north of Greece is so devoid of literary sources, but must have been some epic things going on, with the high concentrations of wealth and weaponry/armour. I'm trying to visualise it, but it's a struggle. I keep picturing Vercingetorix era Gauls clad in bronze instead of iron, maybe not that far off, in terms of social structure, etc.
They really gotta invent that time machine soon, as Dan Carlin often says, how many questions could be answered by hovering over an ancient battle in a time machine! :)
Thanks Dan, your content is as always world class!
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i don't know how stringent my standard of evidence is ... I've read Anthony but not Drews, and now I'm curious what he has to say. I was attracted to Anthony by the linguistics & archaeology, but found the bit-wear study innovative & interesting in its implications. without having yet read Drews, I'm not sure why both hypotheses couldn't be true. Drews's focus is military, so that's what he's likely to see in the available evidence (confirmation bias), while Anthony's is more interdisciplinary, using comparative linguistics alongside the archae to develop the larger cultural/historical picture. He includes horse chariot evidence as part of the spread of horse technology into certain cultures. i think it might be useful to think of different cultures observing each other's technologies, including horse technology, as they came into contact and interacted and traded, and each adapting these new concepts & technologies to its own inherent values - i would guess mainly economic and religious. a militaristic culture in which prestige is increased via warfare would adopt horse tech for military purposes and arrive at backriding through chariot use. an agricultural society would focus on the draft and herding benefits. as you say and genetic evidence shows, there were multiple domestication events of mare herds, so why not multiple approaches to riding? horse tech would travel as fast as a horse itself - making it nearly impossible ultimately to nail down the "first."
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@DanDavisHistory I have a love-hate relationship with the field of archeology, I know things seem to be moving in a somewhat positive direction, but if I was one of the human beings who took painstaking care in preparation for a person’s ritual interment, to ensure a safe journey into the afterlife and eternity, I doubt that I would have much appreciation, for the distinction between respected archeologists, and tomb raiders, greedy for wealth or glory, when it comes to who defiles the tomb, steals not only the valuables but the bod(y/ies,) and whether it was being shipped to a private collection or one belonging to a prestigious academic institution.
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Trade across seas and continents.
An army could have just as easily been a trading expedition.
A wealthy individual at that time, in order to travel from Alpine Europe to Britain, likely had a large enough retinue to carry and guard lots of stuff, bargain from a position of strength, or simply take what they wanted. Some they met on the way would welcome them, appreciate the opportunity to trade surplus food, goods, cattle and people for bronze, salt, and other shiny stuff. Others would resist, might even succeed in being left alone, or be killed or left destitute, maybe enslaved.
At least that's a picture I'm forming.
Wealth, political and military power, extensive trade connections.
Civilization.
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The Globular Amphora people were considerably darker, not carriers of blondism. https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/05/the-execution.html. The Funnelbeakers were almost certainly a similar phenotype to that of the Sardinians, given that those are their closest genetic relatives today. Early reports of blond hair and blue eyes in Anatolia and elsewhere from the Neolithic are usually based on poor science, and many of those early phenotype declarations have been walked back are dismissed... although often quietly enough that the false reports still linger in popular literature or on the internet. For example, this one was quietly issued behind a paywall, and if someone hadn't copied it here, it would be almost impossible to find otherwise. https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/7zi904/ancient_darkskinned_briton_cheddar_man_find_may/duohm8i/. The earliest historical accounts of the Indo-European peoples consistently make reference to their blue or green eyes and often red or blond hair; such references are common to the patrician Roman class, the early Greek kings and nobility, the Thracians, the Scythians—and this historical data comes to us from as diverse written sources as the Greeks, the Romans, and the Chinese. The origin and timing of the blond/blue-eyed phenotype is unclear based on our data today, but it seems very unlikely to have come from the EEF, and seems closely tied to the spread of the WSH population—even though some early reports of Yamnaya DNA analysis suggest that they weren't carriers of it (although Corded Ware was supposed to have been highly blond/blue-eyed in many early reports, in spite of being ~75%+ Yamnaya by automsomal genetics. This is often based on the faulty earlier assumption that the GAC were carriers of it and that the GAC contributed significantly to Corded Ware DNA, both of which now seem to be false.) Then again, today the phenotype is especially concentrated in Fennoscandia and the Baltic Coast; exactly the territory where the SHG lived. It's certainly possible that the phenotype developed and spread quite suddenly through a rapid selection due to a breeding bias effect. Maybe that's the best scenario. But none of the models presented today seem to really fit the spread of the phenotype, it's current distribution, or its apparent historical distribution very well. It's a fascinating and yet confusing subject.
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I think Drews' assumptions are silly. At least, I think it's dumb to essentially say "we have no visual or written evidence of Neolithic horse riders/warriors, therefore it is wrong". To me, it's similar to saying humans walked around with crap in their butt cheeks for millenia until the first artistic depiction of a wiping mechanism came around in 1000BC. It's a very limiting mind set, especially considering the millenia of time that has between now and 6000 years ago.
Something I think about often as well (in terms of the Mesopotamians seemingly ALWAYS being credited as the progenitors of civilization) is that the Mesopotamian environment and climate, I think, lends itself to be naturally more preservative of ancient artifacts. In a semi-arid place such as Mesopotamia, it's natural that the people of the time would use clay tablets to record their histories; it was something easily accessible to them. However, we do see with the Birch Bark writings that people (regular people, not just nobles) were mechanically recording notes, messages, and records for others to read at a later date. Though, sadly, wood is organic and has a tendency to rot unless kept in very specific conditions. So, I don't think it's particularly wise to assume that a lack of physical evidence points to something never existing when human intuition can fill in the gaps. Humans are as capable today as we were 6000 years ago. Think about all the great stone age philosophers that existed whose thoughts we'll never come to know.
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It would not be too out of line to say that maybe the neolithic plague killed more men than women. There have been other diseases that have affected one gender more than the other, or young people more than old people, or the opposite, and it's still happening in this day and age. I believe that it was not just one major cause that precipitated the changes between neolithic and bronze, but more likely a combination of things. In this age so far removed from the past, all we can find is clues about what was probably a series of events that are all intertwined with each other, but depending on the clues uncovered, has led scientists and archeologists to say that this single event or that single disease, or something was the source of this change or that collapse. We modern people with our cosmopolitan society and global movement, tend to think of the far far distant past as stuck in place and lacking fluidity, with each community and tribes and peoples not having contact with anyone else but it's nearest neighbors. I have never believed in that, there have always been those who are never satisfied until they have seen what is on the other side of the hill, or the mountain, or the large body of water...
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New to me, but I'm loving this. I have no idea how I ended up here beyond having an interest, all be it not acidemic any further than I can throw my phone, and that's far, and last time I broke it... Well, not this one because it's new but, I find myself interested in the Bronze age because of how complete their societies seem, and also because of how long ago it all was, plus your video is awesome.
It's seem so rich, but no one has actively missed the Bronze age in forever, yet there was so much! And what ties it all together?
The Sea People, how the heck did that work? A general decline, yeah? Still, it's flipping bonkers to think about.
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As far as riding goes; it stands to reason it was children who first rode. Kids love horses, kids have the time to play with the horses which adults do not. Parents will often place a toddler on a quiet cow or pony. It could easily lead from this to older kids playing around. Kids are less threatening to horses than adults as well.
As we know, yhe North American Indian did not use wheels. Additional to riding, they used horses for pack purposes, with a Travois (2 wooden shafts dragging) It could easily have been this way in Europe or Asia, then someone placed some from of wheel on the end of each stick (shaft) prior to even an axle. I have used short lengths of poles with a hole drilled through them and a metal bar as an axle through the holes. A pin in the axle bar stopped the wheels from falling off. Worked a treat for shifting heavy objects around the farmyard. Very Fred Flinstone, but effective. It does not take much of a stretch of the imagination to see a wheel developing this way, even with a wood axle to begin with. A simple sled is bound to have come next, either with shafts, or just rope or leather attached to the horse to pull it. Combine the sled with low wheels, and you have the beginnings of the chariot. Sophistication would then have come with time and perhaps war.
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I wonder if the artistic depictions of people riding horses, sitting at odd ends of horses with rings in their noses, are imaginary? Might someone have been told about people riding horses or might they have glimpsed a rider and then made up the rest? I am not sure a ring could be put in a horse's nose as their noses are very sensitive. We know rings can be put into the noses of pigs, oxen or water buffaloes but I have never heard of this with any horse species.
I wonder too, since the riders are depicted at the far ends of the horses, if the artists were more familiar with horses or other beasts of burden having loads on the middles of their backs? So if a person was reported riding a horse, where would they sit? In front or behind the loads? While I can see some sense in a rider sitting very close to the neck and holding on, I cannot see reason why a rider would sit near the rump.
I would think skeletal remains would give some indication of people who did a lot of riding. I thought thigh muscles pulled on bones and left marks on people who rode horses?
I think if children were in proximity of tame horses, especially the smaller varieties, they might have ridden them. Children are carried by parents and they like the idea of riding pets, even large dogs. I would think if horses were in any way tame, riding would have developed quickly to some degree.
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Even on a wild, uncontrollable horse, sitting midway between front and hind legs would make sense. The only reason I can think of for not doing this is that the horse didn't tolerate it, physically, mentally, or both. Evolution won't have equipped horses with a spine suited for carrying weight at the middle. It will, however, have equipped them to carry weight above the legs; that's where all the weight of the horse is focused, even during the strain of gallop. The skeleton there is also directly supported by the legs, unlike the middle of the spine. It's reasonable to assume that a horse will panic more when it's at real and immediate risk of serious injury, than when this isn't the case. In other words, the images of Persians riding just above the legs of the horse is evidence that useful riding was impossible at the time; the horses couldn't tolerate it. One can imagine, though, that literal joyriding might have resulted in selecting for animals that could carry the most weight, resulting in a gradual increase of strength.
With regard to war, there's another problem. Dominant stallions aren't the rule among wild horses, but an exception. Most horses will run away from danger, even today, even after we've bred them to be calm and obedient; war hoses were selected for special traits at a young age, and then rigorously trained. Horses are prey animals by nature; running away is what they do. Mares always have an incentive to flee, rather than fight; to them, it doesn't matter if other mares are killed, and there are plenty of stallions. Non-dominant stallions also have nothing to fight for; risking death for other stallions, or for mares that won't mate with you, is pointless; much better to wait until you have a herd to protect. Dominant males, however, do have an incentive. They need to keep their mares and foals alive, and also have them feel protected, as an incentive for them to stay close. While evolution doesn't think, it still tends to end up with the rational result. Early horses will have been very skittish.
Riding an early horse at high speed towards people that are howling, screaming, making rapid movements, hurling things at you (you and the horse), and perhaps even charging towards you, would be suicide. If you harmed an enemy, it would be by landing on them, after being spectacularly thrown from your horse. Horse archery would be more realistic, as it would involve riding parallel to the enemy, rather than towards them, and the horse would need to be kept calm only for a few seconds, while the arrow is launched, and then could be allowed to run away. However, this leaves us without an explanation for later chariot archers; if one man on one horse can fire arrows, why would you use two horses for one chariot with two men (driver and archer) that can fire no more arrows, and certainly not enough to justify two horses, two men, and the cost of a chariot? Clearly, that wouldn't be a recipe for success. Clearly, mobile archers required a chariot and a dedicated rider for a reason. That indicates that horses, even at that stage, couldn't carry a man at a sufficiently high speed and for a sufficiently long duration to match the usefulness of a war chariot.
In short, horses weren't used in war, until some tribe in the Indo-European speaking region developed the chariot, some 4,000 years ago, and, even then, they weren't ridden. Judging by the spread of Indo-European languages, they were very effective, though.
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Firstly, I really appreciate the amount of research and detail that clearly went into this. This is definitely one of the more better Youtube summary's about this individual's life in comparison to some others that use more dubious sources and then come to the conclusion he was set up because 'Catholic church is bad!'
Mostly for other commenters here that question what the consensus is in academic circles: Historians such as Noël Valois, Arthur Bourdeaut, Émile Gabory, Georges Peyronnet, Jacques Heers, Matei Cazacu, and Claude Gauvard believe there's a level of guilt here although for different reasons. E.g for Cazacu, Gilles fits almost perfectly our modern understanding of what a serial killer is before the concept was even known back in the 15th century.
The usual problem I think is the academic sources are at times not accessible as they tend to be in French, I think a good idea for anyone who's interested in the academic debate is to use the French wikipedia and then run it through the translate as it details very well different sources and much more information too. I don't usually rely on wikipedia but as long as it's sourced, there's not much issue there!
English wise, there's some very good sources via google scholar as well (I find Elena Odio's publication clear and easy to read in comparison to others) but these all tend to be locked behind a good old academic institution wall.
The point on his innocence has been brought up by some historians in the past, mainly Salomon Reinach who questioned the inquisitorial nature of the trial. Although his work was then later criticised, and other historians disregard the 'conspiracy theory' that he was completely set up entirely.
Jacques Chiffoleau (another medievalist) also makes the point to not completely rely on the trial record at face value. However, he's also a little concerned as to the extremely explicit nature of the testimonies which was unusual for this time period (a bit similar to Cazacu's argument)
We'll never really know the exact truth of what happened here. But personally, I find the arguments both ways quite interesting. The argument he was at least to some level guilty is still more or less in the 'majority'.
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@DanDavisHistory , thanks for answering. I still disagree about the use of the visual matter. Many of the pictures fit well, while others IMO don't. Quite often - especially in the beginning - you show pictures and even modern footage of boats which have nothing at all to do with the boats which were in use at the time of Francis Drake. While others might enjoy the mood and maritime spirit it invokes, I find it slightly distracting.
Since I am not an expert as far as the Spanish Armada is concerned, I am not inclined to get into a lengthy argument with you. But even a cursory net search reveals that the opinions of the experts cover a great range. But most of them agree that while the initial English actions set the stage, the complete dispersal of the Spanish ships and their legendary flight northwards around the Northern tip of Scotland and the Scottish Isles, and their subsequent long journey homewards along England's Western shores was caused by the inclement weather. And it should be mentioned that most Spanish ships eventually managed to return to Spain! Only six ships of the Spanish Armada were destroyed by direct actions of the English navy. Some experts say, that it was bad tactics, bad luck and bad weather which stopped the landing of the Spanish ships and the invasion of England . And at the time it was actually readily acknowledged that it was a near-run affair and that England had dodged a bullet. It was regarded as an act of God - of course a protestant God - that the Spanish Armada was blown away after the initial skirmishes!
But I repeat: Overall I really enjoyed your detailed documentary about Sir Francis Drake, whom I have admired since my father, who was a passionate sailor and ship builder, has told me about the daring English buccaneer and explorer. I was very impressed by his positive attitude towards the native people whom he encountered during his voyages along the shores of the two American continents and his lenient treatment of his Spanish prisoners after he managed to capture and plunder their treasure ships. And he must've been an English patriot, since he always returned from his excursions and enriched his investors and the English crown instead of squirreling away his treasures somewhere and becoming a full-time pirate. His circumnavigation of the world with his legendary "Golden Hinde" cannot be regarded highly enough, and his leadership was great!
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Dan Davis Author - Fabulous stuff, sir.
As far as Mesopotamians riding back on the 'ass' part of the horse, it seems to me this could be nothing more than "bad art." Terrible depictions of horse-riding, perhaps by artists who did not witness the sport but were told by others who did. I just can't see anyone riding the rear quarter of a horse even as a 'dare,' and think it's just poor artistic depiction by bad artists - who flourished then, as now.
I'm not saying that horses weren't ridden as a dare. However, I do feel that such a dare spreading west across Europe and southeast to Mesopotamia, etc., seems extremely unlikely. That's a huge geographical span. Unlike the Frisbee or hula-hoop which became a 'craze' worldwide in modern times...it seems unlikely that in a world then focused for most on mere survival, people from Ireland to Iraq - 3700 miles - would be, "Hey Baldrick -dangerous horse riding - give it a shot, everyone's doing it!"
Great video, many thanks.
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Look up Bell breaker culture and things afterwards focusing on horse riding.
Also, as my professor, a wonderful lovely woman, told us during our class, while the fighting on a horse in pre recorded times or even archery could be considered nearly equal to suicide, the eurasian people did not necesarry have to saw death like that as a bad thing, especially if it was in combat, but seeing as only anatolians, greeks and egyptians needed to have everything they do catalogued and archived we will never know for sure if somewhere 1000 years bc there were not groups of brave but pretty much stupid blocks who considered death in battle as the best thing to ever happen to them.
The stamford bridge battle can be another example of horses used in pre antiquitoc warfare, if we assume those few horse we do know of were used fit ridings. What would make sense to me, seeing as there is no point in killing a horse tied to a wagon or chariot, people were always trying to capture the horses used in battle, at least from Proto history to pre WW1 wars.
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You are a world class documentarian. I love your work. I am weighting, and weighting with my thumb on the scale, for another about Bronze Age weights and measures.
OK, As soon as you say someone added molten COPPER to them, you are saying that was being done by a relatively skilled artisan* and it was being done at the place of manufacture** , and it was so crude, that it was ENTIRELY for the purpose of weight consistency*** not for esthetics or an ideal.
* Most people couldn't make a fire hot enougn to melt copper, nor could they contain and apply copper that was molten, nor could they keep the copper unadulterated by impurities as they tried all of that. Whereas the makers are literally in a smithy, and already used to weighing out and dividing and melting metal.
** No one is going to accept underweight items and then add metal and labour to them in such an ugly way, for any reason. If you took under weight things in trade, you don't say "OH NO, I better spend money making this trade good up to weight". You either use it as metal, or you trade it on to some sucker.
* If they did have a religious or spiritual aspect "This shape pleases the spirits" you are not going to alter the shape in an ugly way just to make it the particular weight of metal. If that shape was the purpose, no one is going to the trouble of adding metal that distorts the shape.
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Don't be concerned too much with whether others be interested in the stuff you find fascinating. I get it that you wanna make popular youtube videos, but the truth is, even an interesting topic can be made boring if someone is being extremely dry and/or uninvested, but if you speak with perceivable passion and fascination, then even supposedly boring topics become interesting to listeners. It's a psychological phenomenon that if you're excited about something, that's contagious, and if you're not gonna keep others' attention. This is also why so many brainrot youtubers are so over the top emotional in their delivery, (possibly unconsciously) trying to hijack that mechanism with better or worse results. Of course your target audience is not brainrot content consumers with an attention span of a goldfish, talking in the calm manner like yours instead of onboxious stereotypical over the top youtuber is actually better for the delivery for educational content, as long as the passion can be felt through your videos - and it can. ;) so yeah, just do whatever you think is interesting and it will all find its audience.
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Fabulous account of this truly remarkable Seaman. I am reminded and have read extensively of James Cook, another commoner, like Drake, that arose some 200 years, to circumnavigate Earth 3 times, the Seamans Seaman.
That disease, perhaps Scurvy, and it was Cook that insisted on Fruit and Port, to beat and it did. Drake introduced the 8 hour hour working day, when sailing was fair. And DAILY controlled Fires Below to Sanitize the Ship. Drake has always fascinated this New Zealander, with its own stunning Seaman achieving World firsts and records. Sir Peter Blake a fine example, and I believe he resides to this day, at rest, in England.
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Great video, as always. I will say, at 11:30 - the press' idea that Stonehenge is a rare example of a solstice aligned enclosure is always silly to me. Henges, in general, have their openings facing the southeast / northwest, or flipped. The many big stone circles of Cumbria, Oxfordshire, Wales, and Ireland, often have openings facing that direction. Essentially, it's the predominant alignment of mid-to-late Neolithic ritual enclosures, observable far more obviously outside the Stonehenge landscape. Not unusual.
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Lovely representation, I must confess to being ignorant of these golden hats prior this video. About the Bronze Age solar cult and dawn goddess with her associated water fowls - I'd like to point out the beginning of Kalevala, Finland's national epic, where a myth of World's creation according to folk poetry is retold:
In the beginning, there was only water and sky. Goddess Ilmatar ("She-air") descends from heavens to water, where she becomes pregnant by sea and wind. She however doesn't go in labor and drifts many years, carrying the babe in her womb, in heavy pain. She prays help from Ukko, sky-father of sorts - in response a goldeneye duck appears, searching a place to land without finding any. Ilmatar raises her knee for the goldeneye, which lands and lays its eggs, six golden and one of iron & starts nesting. The heat rises and Ilmatar, feeling her knee burning, twitches her knee, tumbling the eggs and thy break. The lower parts of shells become Earth, upper part the sky; upper parts of egg yellow become the Sun, the lower becomes the Moon. (After World is thus created, the baby is born as an grown man, who turns out to be Väinämöinen,the first man and hero of much of Kalevala)
I had never considered solar cult implications of that beginning section before seeing this video, but they seem to implicate some connection now!
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