Hearted Youtube comments on Chris At Speakers Corner (@chrisatspeakerscorner) channel.
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I'm astonished at every Englishman or woman who turns to - of all things - Islam. As a Nigerian who's never been to England, I practically grew up English, wrapped in the warm maws of Protestant Englishness from my college built by British missionaries on the coast of Calabar to the Wesleyan church on Beecroft street my family faithfully attended. The beauty of the lofty hymns, the intoned liturgies, the teachings of Christ and the festivals of Christianity, ohhh and the peace of having Christ within, convinced me that if I a Nigerian could be so enamoured by Christianity the English would be more so. Unfortunately, after the ravages of atheism and secular humanism, many have strayed - not into some other parallel belief - but into, of all things, Islam!!! The heavens spare us!!!
But thank goodness, this young man has recovered himself and I pray God keep him and use him for His glory, amen.
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it's often muslims that are filled with rage, hate, and violence. They follow their example mahamed who was filled with rage, hate, and violence :
Cruelty of mahamed (POLICE BE UPON HIM)
(Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 261) - Narrated Anas bin Malik:
A group of eight men from the tribe of 'Ukil came to the Prophet and then they found the climate of Medina unsuitable for them. So, they said, "O Allah's Apostle! Provide us with some milk." Allah's Apostle said, "I recommend that you should join the herd of camels." So they went and drank the urine and the milk of the camels (as a medicine) till they became healthy and fat. Then they killed the shepherd and drove away the camels, and they became unbelievers after they were Muslims. When the Prophet was informed by a shouter for help, he sent some men in their pursuit, and before the sun rose high, they were brought, and he had their hands and feet cut off. Then he ordered for nails which were heated and passed over their eyes, and they were left in the Harra (i.e. rocky land in Medina). They asked for water, and nobody provided them with water till they died
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The problem is much worse, considering that our Bible is the only Scriptures, or canonical tradition from times of the Prophets, so claiming that the Bible have been corrupted, or non of the Bibles out there could be the original, means that all those Prophets, whom the Muslims also recognize as their authorities, have failed with their only job, what makes them failed prophets according to Islam, and there's nothing authentic to verify the prophethood of Muhammad, or the continuity of Islamic tradition with the original religion of the Prophets.
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Narrated Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri:
That while he was sitting with the Prophet (ﷺ) a man from the Ansar came and said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! We get slave girls from the war captives and we love property; what do you think about coitus interruptus?" Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) said, "Do you do that? It is better for you not to do it, for there is no soul which Allah has ordained to come into existence but will be created."
Sahih al-Bukhari 6603
Muslims ARE allowed to have sex with slave girls. Muhammad approved it. Jehovah did not ask any of his prophets to take more than one wife, and he was displeased with those who did.
Dt 17:15 Thou shalt in any wise set him king over thee, whom the Lord thy God shall choose: one from among thy brethren shalt thou set king over thee: thou mayest not set a stranger over thee, which is not thy brother. 16 But he shall not multiply horses to himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt, to the end that he should multiply horses: forasmuch as the Lord hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way. 17 Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.
Jehovah did not COMMAND anyone to marry more than one wife, let alone have a sex slave or concubine, because that is considered adultery.
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One criterion by which you could recognize whether someone is a prophet is whether he has knowledge that he could not possibly have acquired naturally.
Fever is caused by the heat of hell. According to Muhammad, the heat of hell is the cause of fever, and must therefore be treated with water (Saheeh al-Bukhari 7:71:621).
Seasons are determined by hell. According to Mohammed, the seasons and the associated differences in temperature are caused by hell. Hell has a hot and a cold part. One day, Hell notices that both parts are consuming each other, and asks Allah for help (Saheeh al-Bukhari 4:54:482). Allah then helps Hell by allowing the cold part to be active ('breathing') in the winter and the hot part in the summer.
This is the reason why we have seasons on earth, and according to Islam this has nothing to do with the position of the earth in relation to the sun, as we learned at school.
Embryos develop in phases of 40 days. According to the Quran (Sura 22:5), embryos go through the following phases: sperm/sperm, then coagulated blood, and finally a lump of flesh. Each of these phases lasts 40 days according to Muhammad (Saheeh al-Bukhari 4:54:430). After these 120 days have passed, a fetus has been formed. An important detail is that during the final phase an angel comes who determines the gender on behalf of Allah (Saheeh al-Bukhari 8:77:594).
In reality, the development of an embryo is very different. An embryo is already a fetus after 9 weeks, so after 63 days instead of 120. After 56 days, all organs have already been developed and there is already a recognizable human being. According to the Quran, the embryo is still in the second phase as clotted blood.
Moreover, the sex of the baby is determined immediately at conception, and not after 80 days as Islam claims. So it is clear that modern science is anything but supportive of Islam. 🤭
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Great response! Yeah, the gospel and Bible distinction is important. That said, given for example Tafsir Ibn Kathir on Quran 36:13-17, it talks about John, Peter and Paul as apostles of Allah. We don't need to argue this, but one could make a case for Paul, Peter and Johns epistles / letters also as being approved text.
"(so We reinforced them with a third,) means, 'We supported and strengthened them with a third Messenger. ' Ibn Jurayj narrated from Wahb bin Sulayman, from Shu'ayb Al-Jaba'i, "The names of the first two Messengers were Sham'un[Peter] and Yuhanna[John], and the name of the third was Bulus[Paul], and the city was Antioch (Antakiyah)."
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Muslims tell us Abraham built the kaaba and Al asqa.
Sahih al-Bukhari 3366
Narrated Abu Dhar:
I said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Which mosque was first built on the surface of the earth?" He said, "Al- Masjid-ul-,Haram (in Mecca)." I said, "Which was built next?" He replied "The mosque of Al-Aqsa ( in Jerusalem) ." I said, "What was the period of construction between the two?" He said, "Forty years." He added, "Wherever (you may be, and) the prayer time becomes due, perform the prayer there, for the best thing is to do so (i.e. to offer the prayers in time).
Abraham lived 4000 years ago and died at 127.
If he built Al asqa 40 years after kaaba, why is Al asqa ON TOP of temple mount Which was built in 560BC, 1500 years after Abraham died ❗
How can something supposedly built before another building be ON TOP of that building ❓❓❓
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There are many passages we could go to show the Trinity is rooted in the Bible. Scripture reveals plurality within the oneness of God, that Jesus claimed to be God and His followers came to believe the same:
Plurality within God: Genesis 1:26 (plural noun used of God), Psalm 45:6–7 vs Hebrews 1:8-9 (God anointed by God).
Jesus as God: Mark 1:1-3 vs Isaiah 40:3 (Jesus in the place of YHWH), John 1:1-5 (Jesus as God and the Word of God), Daniel 7:13-14 vs Mark 14:61-64 (Jesus as the Son of Man), Mark 2:7-12 (Jesus as the forgiver of sins), Philippians 2:6 (Jesus in nature God).
The Holy Spirit as God: Genesis 1:2 (the Holy Spirit creating), Ephesians 4:30 (the Holy Spirit grieved), Acts 5:3–4 (lying to the Holy Spirit is to God), Acts 13:2 (the Holy Spirit speaking as God).
Trinitarian language: Matthew 28:19 (baptism formula), 2 Corinthians 13:14 (trinitarian blessing), 1 Peter 1-2 (greeting describing salvation).[4]
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For me the most eyeopening moment of the day, the Muslim assaults becoming normalized, was the policeman who pursued one of the assailants relentlessly, at a slow walking pace whilst the assailant jogged away. The policeman returned a few minutes later empty handed.
He then proceeded to use a series of irrelevant and prejudicial statements to attack bob, one of the the victims. Inferring he was childish, that the assaults because as a policeman he suffered them also are no big deal(?), inferred then retracted that bob endorsed such assaults on the police. I really do think the policeman thought he was not being recorded because what came out his mouth was unprofessional and at one point I'm pretty sure lies( he talked of a ~"stabbing across the road" he might be needed for , as a reason he could not be really invested in bobs assault, but the only stabbing that could have been was in Stepney over an hours walk away , no doubt being handled by some of the other 38K met police. It brings to mind an stabbing that took place right in front of the police at speakers corner which yielded an almost identical police response and investigative outcome.)
Nothing about policeman's behavior showed any real intent to do anything , in fact he was avoiding actually doing what a member of the public should expect from him and trying to hide it with theatrical action or verbal excuses. He got really petulant with bob when bob saw what was plain as day and declined to make a police report , the policeman happy to act by paper pushing , but not by actually doing his job. He even stated bob would have to come with him to police station to make the report , I suspect a sly way of getting bob out the corner, and himself back in the air conditioned office.
This is another in the long list of police actions that have shown a bias toward the unlawful excesses by Muslims against the Christians who are behaving lawfully. I'm an atheist, this is not some Christian partisan statement, its just obvious.
Perhaps when Sadiq Kahn talked of terrorism being “part and parcel of living in a big city” this was code to also expect no protection if you "offended" Muslims also.
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Chris, you forgot that the devil has already done this..
Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah, Guillaume, pages 165-166.
"Have you thought of al-Lat and al-Uzza and Manat, the third ... these are the exalted Gharaniq (a high flying birds/cranes) whose intercession is approved. When (the) Quraysh heard that, they were delighted and greatly pleased at the way in which he spoke of their gods and they listened to him ... Then the people dispersed and Quraysh went out, delighted at what had been said about their gods, saying, "Muhammad has spoken of our gods in splendid fashion"."
Surah 22.52
"We never sent a messenger before you, or a prophet, but when he had a desire Satan interfered in his wishes. But Allah nullifies what Satan interjects..."
Satan fooled Muhammad no less into receiving a revelation from Allah that was not from Allah. Even Satan produced something like it.
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Scholar Marijn van putten doesn't believe the qurans are perfectly preserved:
What do you mean by "The Quran today"? There are 10 different reading traditions with 20 sub-narrations adhered to today. They are different from one another.
About 500 years ago, yes we more-or-less have the same 10 readers with 2 transmissions each.
But go back a little further, to al-Qabāqibī who dies 849 AH/1445 CE we have fourteen reading traditions, 4 of which have completely fallen out of use.
Go even further back to al-Huḏalī's al-Kāmil (he dies 465 AH/1072 CE), and he has 50 reading traditions, forty of which are no longer in active use. And of the ten the he has, there are countless sub-narrations that are no longer adhered to today.
This problem really only compounds the further you go back. If you include manuscripts from before Ibn Muǧāhid (d. 324/936), you will find countless readings that do not fit with any of the canonical ten and not even with any of al-Huḏalī's fifty... None of these traditions are in living use, many of them have wordings that are unique to them and no longer present in any of the recited forms of the Quran.
And of course, ultimately, the text of Uthman is a bottleneck for most of these traditions. Uthman commissioned his standard text about 20 years after the death of the prophet. We know for a fact that the companions of the prophet had version of the Quran that differed much, much more than the amount of variation that you find in Uthmanic text. Whole words and phrases replaced and added or reordered, in codices such as those of Ibn Masʿūd and ʾUbayy.
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Scholar Marijn van putten doesn't believe the qurans are perfectly preserved:
What do you mean by "The Quran today"? There are 10 different reading traditions with 20 sub-narrations adhered to today. They are different from one another.
About 500 years ago, yes we more-or-less have the same 10 readers with 2 transmissions each.
But go back a little further, to al-Qabāqibī who dies 849 AH/1445 CE we have fourteen reading traditions, 4 of which have completely fallen out of use.
Go even further back to al-Huḏalī's al-Kāmil (he dies 465 AH/1072 CE), and he has 50 reading traditions, forty of which are no longer in active use. And of the ten the he has, there are countless sub-narrations that are no longer adhered to today.
This problem really only compounds the further you go back. If you include manuscripts from before Ibn Muǧāhid (d. 324/936), you will find countless readings that do not fit with any of the canonical ten and not even with any of al-Huḏalī's fifty... None of these traditions are in living use, many of them have wordings that are unique to them and no longer present in any of the recited forms of the Quran.
And of course, ultimately, the text of Uthman is a bottleneck for most of these traditions. Uthman commissioned his standard text about 20 years after the death of the prophet. We know for a fact that the companions of the prophet had version of the Quran that differed much, much more than the amount of variation that you find in Uthmanic text. Whole words and phrases replaced and added or reordered, in codices such as those of Ibn Masʿūd and ʾUbayy.
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Brother Chris, next time a muslim asks where Jesus explicitly said "I am God" you can silence them with...
Revelation 1:1, is Jesus God or the Angel of God that declared He is God in Genesis 31:13 and who was present, conversing and interacting with Gideon in Judges!?!
Revelation 1:1
This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants what must soon come to pass. He made it known by sending His Angel to His servant John,
Genesis 31:11 & 13
In that dream the Angel of God said to me, ‘Jacob!’ And I replied, ‘Here I am.’
I Am the God of Bethel, where you anointed the pillar and made a solemn vow to Me. Now get up and leave this land at once, and return to your native land.’ ”
Judges 6:12-14 & 34, 36, 39 & 40
And the Angel of the LORD appeared to Gideon and said, “The LORD is with you, O mighty man of valor.”
“Please, my Lord,” Gideon replied, “if the LORD is with us, why has all this happened to us? And where are all His wonders of which our fathers told us, saying, ‘Has not the LORD brought us up out of Egypt?’ But now the LORD has forsaken us and delivered us into the hand of Midian.”
The LORD turned to him and said, “Go in the strength you have and save Israel from the hand of Midian. Am I not sending you?”
So the Spirit of the LORD came upon Gideon, who blew the ram’s horn and rallied the Abiezrites behind him
Then Gideon said to God, “If You are going to save Israel by my hand, as You have said,
Then Gideon said to God, “Do not be angry with me; let me speak one more time. Please allow me one more test with the fleece. This time let it be dry, and the ground covered with dew.”
And that night God did so. Only the fleece was dry, and dew covered the ground.
John 5:16-18
Now because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jews began to persecute Him.
But Jesus answered them,
“To this very day 👉My Father👈 is at His work, and I too am working.”
👉Because of this👈,
👉the Jews tried all the harder to kill
Him👈.
Not only was He breaking the Sabbath,
but
👉He was even calling God His own
Father👈,
👉making Himself equal with
God.👈
John 13:12-14
When Jesus had washed their feet and put on His outer garments, He reclined with them again and asked, “Do you know what I have done for you?
👉You call Me👈 Teacher
👉and Lord (Κύριος)👈,
👉and rightly so, because I am👈.
👉So if I, your Lord (Κύριος)👈 and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one another’s feet.
Philo was more fluent in Greek than in Hebrew and read the Jewish Scriptures chiefly from the Septuagint,
Philo, consistently uses Κύριος as a designation for God!
Romans 8:9
You, however, are controlled not by the flesh, but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.
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Chris you went above and beyond. This is all that really needs to be said..
If you disagree dawahoverdunya, and you think sneako isn’t educated enough and you are, then debate Chris. I’m sure Chris would gladly debate you on if the quran is perfectly preserved. I see this guy all the time make these response videos but he can never actually debate anyone or defend his positions. He is glad to attack Christian positions from behind his keyboard, but never is willing to actually have a real conversation or debate. He’s not interested in the Truth, Jesus Christ. He’s interested in getting a bunch of likes of his yt shorts. Stop running. Get ahold of Chris and debate him, debate Avery, debate Sam, debate Bob, debate Dyer, debate Horn, debate Lynn, etc.
He will go back and forth with 50 response vids to you, but will never debate you Chris.
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The mocking of "prophets" in Islam, intentional or otherwise, is way beyond what is discussed in the video. Even the name of 'Isa is derogatory. As is the case with many things, Muslims aren't aware of its true meaning. It means "stallion water," that is, "semen." The most fantastic hadiths are related to MHMD. As an example, there is an episode with the Al-Zutt where jinns shaped like penises rode the "prophet" all night long. Ibn Mas'ud was at one of the episodes to witness it. Muslims are concerned about blaspheming the "prophet," but the hadiths present him in the most unflattering, disgusting ways possible. They do it all by themselves.
Muslims claim we are blaspheming when we read and understand their books. They themselves are surprised when we read what they have never read nor understood. Most Muslims have never really read their books and rely on sheikhs to interpret. Sheikhs themselves are embarrassed, so they shut down discussion or sugarcoat just as the Quran itself is sugarcoated. 90% of Muslims don't know Arabic, so they really don't know what is in their Quranic texts. They claim blasphemy unjustly since they are embarrassed.
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I actually believe that John Fontain's approach makes much more sense than the one presented by these two clowns (although John's approach is also obviously highly implausible).
These two guys' arguments made no sense for many reasons:
1) Stating that the Torah is "generally reliable" but at the same only trusted when it agrees with the Quran is incoherent. Is it GENERALLY reliable or is it not?
It would also be theologically pointless (to accept the Torah only when it agrees with the Quran) for the following two reasons: 1) Why would Allah ask Jews to judge Muhammad's reliability by the Torah, if the Torah is only reliable when it agrees with Muhammad! 2) Why does the Quran demand Muslims to believe in the Torah (or spend eternity in hellfire) when the only parts that are accepted are REGARDLESS found in the Quran?
Also, the Quran chided Jews for going to Muhammad, when they already had the Torah. But if the Torah is only reliable when Muhammad agrees with the Torah, why should they follow a book which is only "generally reliable" (i.e., the Torah) when they can go to a book which is fully reliable (i.e., the Quran)?
2) They admitted that Jesus had the contemporary Torah (a surprising and, for Islam, highly damning, admission!). So Jesus confirming the Torah means that actually he only confirmed PARTS of the Torah?! Does that make sense?! A Rasul, Jesus, confirms a book that contains false teachings about major theological issues (e.g., God resting, prophets sinning) and you're OK with that!!! Furthermore, can they point to a single tafsir which says "Jesus confirmed ONLY the MAJORITY of a CORRUPTED Torah"? They won't, because they can't.
Furthermore, historically (even reading the Gospels from an atheistic, historical standpoint) we know that Jesus fully affirmed the Torah and never issued any criticisms of the Torah (which he should have, if the Torah contained false teachings). So being a Muslim requires you to ignore established, universally-accepted history (can Muslims point to one modern-day historian who believes that Jesus spoke against parts of the Torah?)
3) They claimed that the Torah was corrupted during the Babylonian exile, when the scrolls of the Torah were scarce (presumably brought back by Ezra at the end of the exile). They haven't solved the problem, though. The Samaritans are a separate group that never went to the exile, COMPLETELY rejected Ezra, and yet have the same Torah as the contemporary one (except the verse about Mount Gerizim). Muslims have to resort to the same conspiracy theory that Jews and Samaritans changed their Torah uniformly. Also, most Jews remained in Babylon, and weren't subservient to Ezra. So suggesting that the Torah was rewritten in exile suffers from the same "conspiracy theory" concerns as claiming that the Torah was uniformly corrupted during, say, the time of the Crusades.
4) They claimed that Muhammad clearly had a profound knowledge of the Torah and Injil, so why would he KNOWINGLY contradict it?
This is a laughable mistake. Muhammad couldn't read. All his knowledge was from speaking to MANY people during his travels as a merchant (the clowns made it sound as if Muhammad never left Mecca, when they know he traveled widely, including to Damascus). Some Jews and Christians he spoke to must have had a profound knowledge of the Torah and Injil, and perhaps believed that it should be corrected in certain parts. Other Jews and Christians believed in the Torah and Injil fully. That's why Muhammad has no problem correcting the Torah (based on the opinions of some heretical Jews) and accepting the Torah (based on more traditional Jews). He had no idea that he was contradicting himself, because he was just repeating information that he had no direct knowledge of.
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It's obvious that muhamed had access to the gospels...
Sahih al-Bukhari 2268
Narrated Ibn `Umar:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Your example and the example of the people of the two Scriptures (i.e. Jews and Christians) is like the example of a man who employed some laborers and asked them, 'Who will work for me from morning till midday for one Qirat?' The Jews accepted and carried out the work. He then asked, Who will work for me from midday up to the `Asr prayer for one Qirat?' The Christians accepted and fulfilled the work. He then said, 'Who will work for me from the `Asr till sunset for two Qirats?' You, Muslims have accepted the offer. The Jews and the Christians got angry and said, 'Why should we work more and get lesser wages?' (Allah) said, 'Have I withheld part of your right?' They replied in the negative. He said, 'It is My Blessing, I bestow upon whomever I wish .'
Mathew 20:1
For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard.
2 And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard.
3 And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace,
4 And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way.
5 Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise.
6 And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle?
7 They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive.
8 So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first.
9 And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny.
10 But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny.
11 And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house,
12 Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day.
13 But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny?
14 Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee.
15 Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?
16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
Sahih al-Bukhari 4953
Khadija then took him to Waraqa bin Naufil, the son of Khadija's paternal uncle. Waraqa had been converted to Christianity in the Pre-lslamic Period and used to write Arabic and write of the Gospel in Arabic as much as Allah wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight. Khadija said (to Waraqa), "O my cousin! Listen to what your nephew is going to say." Waraqa said, "O my nephew! What have you seen?" The Prophet (ﷺ) then described whatever he had seen. Waraqa said, "This is the same Angel (Gabriel) who was sent to Moses
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The thing is, when he is in person and someone can call him up on it, and he can see the whites of their eyes, he then will back down, because people like him are all talk, I know so many people like him during my time in the army, people who speak like that are weak, in mind and body, I may not be as read up as most Christians but the one thing I know is how to be a soldier and how to work out the enemy, and the loudest most cockiest ones are doing it to make then not look weak, and project strength but they don't realise it doesn't make them look strong.
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You forget, as did the paper , the alleged strip search .
Also I really find it hard to believe the paper says
"Ms Tash alleges she was stabbed in the face by an unknown man dressed in black while she was in Speakers' Corner."
That she was stabbed is not simply alleged , its a fact.
It's not that rare a payout from the police that they got it wrong , if you watch any auditing videos the police have often overstepped the law out of malice or ignorance and had to pay out damages. If you follow many of these cases of police complaints you'll find the officers involved received no punishment , and even after lengthy court cases and processes via the IPCC some obviously terrible acts by the police are glossed over or ignored. So many police continue to be police even having been found to have committed quite egregious acts.
Note the "thin blue line" badge the police wear , this is not part of their uniform , it's not supposed to be worn , but it is an open expression of police solidarity with each other , and sets their treatment of each other apart from their treatment of the general public.
I think the police are broken , and we need them not to be , something is certainly wrong in their training and attitudes.
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I could be way off-base here, but at the risk of being obnoxiously redundant, before you go buy new hardware, the microphone may not be what's causing the pop. It could be the audio interface or drivers. I use a Shure SM57 through a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 for all of almost all of my audio recording stuff. Periodically a setting will get bumped, or an update will screw with my settings and I'll end up at to the wrong bit rate, buffer size, or driver for the Focusrite, and any audio I record will pop or crackle.
If you're using a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 as your audio interface and Windows, you're going to want the Asio4All driver. Once you install it, there's an associated program that will let you set the sample rate and buffer size. If you're getting occasional pops, it could be that your buffer isn't set high enough for your computer to keep up. If you bump that up one or two options from the drop-down menu, and you're still getting pops, this likely isn't the issue. If you bump it up by one or two options and the pops go away, cool.
If you're not using a Focusrite, it's possible there's some similar issue with a similar solution to what I've described above, but I don't have any experience with other audio interfaces.
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In a chess game, during the first 30 seconds when your pieces are well-positioned, experienced players often say, "Strike while the iron is hot," meaning to push forward. There should be no hesitation in exchanging pieces and maintaining momentum. Similarly, I see Christians at this stage and urge you not to stop. If you stop pushing, the opponent will have the opportunity to think and strike back. Don't give the opponent any time or space. This is the best stage to advance all your major pieces and establish a strong position. In other words, call on all young Christian boys and girls to learn and prepare for the next phase. If you continue to push forward consistently, you will create a legendary history of victory. However, if you hesitate and become complacent, worse will come to you. Amen.
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I ask myself this question for claims about the Qur'an (that Muslims often make).. 'Can an individual independently verify the claim?' If the answer is, 'No.' Then the Muslim making the claim actually doesn't know their claim is true. Here are some practical applications.
1. The Muslim claims, 'Every Muslim around the world recites the same Qu'ran.' Can any person independently verify that? They would have to travel to every culture and listen to many recitations from every culture and make comparisons and contrasts. No person could do that, there isn't enough time in one lifetime to do that.
2 The Qur'anic claim that there isn't any literature like it and human can't make any literature like it is also a claim that no individual has the capacity to independently verify. So, when Muslims claim that humans have never made any literature as good as it (or like it), they actually can't know that's true, instead they are relying on the claims of their own Islamic scholars who will of course always make that claim. So, the individual Muslim actually doesn't know. They can't do the research. Again, they would have to consult the whole of human literature, or at least only the works considered to be of cultural value, and how can they do that? How can an individual learn all of these languages, even dead languages, and independently verify that Qur'anic claim?
I have recently discovered one way I believe that Sunni Islam 'shoots itself in the foot.' It's the claim in the Qur'an that people before Islam, just believed whatever their parents (or culture) told them to believe. Other Christians have probably thought about this contradiction in practice, but I think it's a really good argument, so I am going to repeat it here in the hopes that some Apologists raise it. What is Isnad? Isnad is a history of which Islamic leaders/scholars told younger generations about event's of Muhammad and beliefs of Muhammad, for the purposes of religious instruction. How is that any different than simply believing what your parents taught you to believe? Can anyone tell me where my thinking is wrong on this? Many Muslims today, rely heavily on what the Sahabah and the first generation after that, said about Islam. To the degree that they will insist that no person can really know Islam except that person consult these resources and learns about what that generation said. That's taking the claims of that generation almost without any critical analysis. That is almost exactly the same action that the Qur'an complains about. Surely, those ancient scholars were parents to some children. And anyway, what's the difference between blindly following a scholar, or blindly following what your parents insisted you believe. The complaint in the Qur'an is that some people were lazy in pursing religious truth and just relied solely on what their parents and elders told them to believe. Well, if an individual has to learn Qur'anic Arabic, yet is still relying on Islamic scholars, I fail to see how they can follow the directions of the Qu'ran and do their independent analysis. Instead, many Muslims who do Dawah are arguing that people are dependent on their 'parents' (the people who came beforehand).
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Good one Chris
The Real History of Islam
1. *Mecca in the Hijaz: there is no archaeological or historical evidence for Mecca in the 6/7th Century, it had no oasis, no streams, no river, no vegetation to support even a village and definitely no resources to make weapons of war.
2. **Mohammad of Islam (570-632): No Mecca=No Mohammad of Islam, No historical or artefactual evidence
3. No Mohammad of Islam=No 7th Century Islamic Qurans, the earliest ones (which were incomplete) were in the early to middle 8th Century and are vastly different to the much later Qurans.
The most popular one is the Hafs, and that wasn’t canonised until 1985 by the Saudis. The second most popular one is the Warsh, and they contradict each other.
The Qurans don’t describe Mecca, but the Southern Levant 600 miles North, suras 16:10, 18:33, 16:11, 27:60 etc.
The hajj should be in Jerusalem not Mecca.
Islam as we know today evolved in the 8/9th Centuries and had nothing to do with a bloke called Mohammad, the use of Mecca was an Abbasid invention.
**The term Mohammad was used by Christian Araba up until 750, this simply could not have happened if the Mohammad of Islam (an Abbasid invention) was real. Arabic coins from the mid-7th century onwards are proof of this and the likes of Muawiya and Abdul al Malik were Christians, indeed Abdul al Malik had the Dome of the Rock built and in the inner ambulatories it talks about Christ, it was originally a Christian building.
Are there peaceful sura and ayat in the Qurans?
Abrogation: Sura 2:256 ‘Let there be no compulsion in religion etc.’ is abrogated by 9:29 ‘Fight against those who do not believe in Allah etc.’ All peaceful sura were later abrogated.
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It’s not Sneeko’s fault that he thinks there’s only one version of the Qur’an, it’s the fault of those who told him there’s only one Qur’an, probably in an effort to convince him that Islam is the right religion. Surely it’s not a big deal correcting one of the lies that he has been told, nothing to get alarmed about, there are plenty of other lies filling his head after a year with the dawah guys. As a young Christian, I was always told to read the Bible for myself and always check what you are being told, never just believe what others tell you, even if it’s your Pastor, and study for yourself. Christianity can stand up to scrutiny. Muslims, study your Qur’an, whichever one you have, question what you’re being told by your imams, dawah guys and YouTubers, your eternity depends on it.
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Chris, please let these muslim men know that Lot was not part of the plan to sleep with his daughters according to Genesis 19:33 - 35 and they didn't do it because of lust but to preserve his seed (believing everyone else had died because of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah)
Genesis 19:33-35 (KJV) And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; AND HE PERCEIVED NOT when she lay down, nor when she arose.
And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; AND HE PERCEIVED NOT when she lay down, nor when she arose.
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Just so we are all aware that Uthman doesn't know how interest on mortgages works, on a 6% 25 year mortgage your total repayments is 1,932,900, not 2,800,000. About the same as a house in Mecca.
Don't go to him for economics advice. Or any advice.
Correction. He said 30 years at 6%, so 2,158,383.60, not 2,800,000. Still don't trust him.
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Shamsi's fallacy annihilates Islam!....
It acknowledges and affirms that the Divinity of Christ, became flesh, therefore Christ is already identified as God pre incarnation!....
And then regarding God's perfection, Al-Lah fails, just two examples are that Al-Lah can't enter creation (even though Al-Lah claims to be in creation and on earth (6:3), and Al-Lah needs another in order to have a son (21:17), and has daughters (Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Al-Manat, so has already created offspring like humans, which is paradoxical! 😂 🤣
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Fao brother Chris (Iceman),
It's interesting that the Shia (source below) admit that there was only the rasm during the time of Muhammad.
Calligraphy, Orthography and Diacritical Marks Used in the Qur'an
The first and second copies of the Qur'an were written in Kufic script at the time of the Prophet. The very basic nature of the script, without diacritical marks, was suitable for the reciters, relators and scholars who had learned the Qur'an by heart, since only they knew the precise pronunciation of the words. Others found great difficulty if they opened the Book and tried to read correctly.
It was for this reason that at the end of the first century after Hijrah Abu al-Aswad al-Du'ali, one of the companions of 'Ali, with the guidance of the latter, wrote out the rules of the Arabic language and on the orders of the Umayyad Caliph 'Abd al-Malik produced a Qura'nic text with diacritical marks. This, to a certain extent, removed the difficulty of reading the Kufic script.
Several difficulties remained, however; the diacritical marks for vowels, for example, were for a time only points. Instead of a fathah, a point was placed at the beginning of the letter and, instead of kasrah, a point below and, for a dammah, a point above at the end of a letter.
This led to ambiguity. It was not till Khalil ibn Ahmad al-Farahidi set about explaining the maddah, i.e. the lengthening of certain words, the doubling of letters, the diacritical marks of vowelling and the pause, that the difficulty of reading script was finally removed.
https://www.al-islam.org/quran-islam-its-impact-and-influence-life-muslims-sayyid-muhammad-husayn-tabatabai/part-5-order
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Mark 5:41-42 indeed does state that the "little girl" was "twelve years old" in the Greek!
Mark 5:41
And having taken the hand of the child (παιδίου), He says to her, "Talitha (ταλιθα), koum!" which is translated, "Little girl, I say to you, arise!"
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
παιδίου - 3813. paidion
little, young child, damsel.
Neuter diminutive of pais; a childling (of either sex), i.e. (properly), an infant, or (by extension) a half-grown boy or girl; figuratively, an immature Christian -- (little, young) child, damsel.
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
ταλιθα - 5008. talitha
young girl.
Of Chaldee origin (compare taleh); the fresh, i.e. Young girl; talitha (O maiden) -- talitha.
Mark 5:42
Immediately the girl (κοράσιον) got up and began to walk around. She was twelve (δώδεκα) years old, and at once they were utterly astounded.
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
κοράσιον - 2877. korasion
damsel, girl
Neuter of a presumed derivative of kore (a maiden); a (little) girl -- damsel, maid.
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
δώδεκα - 1427. dódeka
twelve.
From duo and deka; two and ten, i.e. A dozen -- twelve.
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I wrote that below as an answer to a user, but I wanna post it here also separately, because I'm sure, that it is important to think about: The natures (that means) God-given (!) instincts, which are as old as humanity, say: "Children trigger reactions like protective instincts, leniency and so on - but no (!) sex...al desires!". A 9-year "old" girl does not trigger that desire!! Not in a healthy, ethic and moralic person. Menstruation (which is at that age much too early, a hormon disorder, very seldom) is NOT a kind of start sign to touch this child. The instincts (given from God!) are banning it still anyway!
Ask Yourself: seeing a little child that age on the street - do You feel a se....al desire and start to imagine? No, of course not!
That's the instinct talking to You!
Someone who violate this God given boundaries trample on His will and can't be a Prophet and a religion founder!
And I don't talk about his other violation of nature's/ God's boundaries....
With such deeds, he is exposed of not being a Prophet....!
And marrying a six year old? Come on...what was his goal?
That's all a big error and a lie....
Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪 🤗
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Yup, not in the Quran specifically but definitely found at least in the Hadiths.
Not halal to marry Jews or Christians
Muwatta Malik 411650
Malik said, "It is not halal to marry a Christian or Jewish slave-girl because Allah the Blessed, the Exalted, said in His Book, 'Believing women who are muhsanat and women of those who were given the Book before you who are muhsanat', (sura 5 ayat 6) and they are free women from the Christians and Jews. Allah, the Blessed, the Exalted, said in His Book, 'If you are not affluent enough to marry believing women who are muhsanat, take believing slave-girls whom your right hands own.' " (Sura 4 ayat 24)
Malik said, "In our opinion, Allah made marriage to believing slave-girls halal, and He did not make halal marriage to Christian and jewish slave-girls from the People of the Book."
Malik said, "The Christian and Jewish slave-girl are halal for their master by right of possession, but intercourse with a magian slave-girl is not halal by the right of possession."
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But it’s ok to marry the daughter of the woman you marry but not the other way around???
Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1117
Amr bin Shu'aib narrated from his father, from his grandfather that: The Prophet said: "Whichever man married a woman and entered into her, then it is not lawful for him to marry her daughter. If he did not enter into her then he may marry her daughter. And whichever man married a woman and he entered into her, or he did not enter into her, then it is not lawful for him to marry her mother."
حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ، حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ لَهِيعَةَ، عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ شُعَيْبٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ جَدِّهِ، أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ " أَيُّمَا رَجُلٍ نَكَحَ امْرَأَةً فَدَخَلَ بِهَا فَلاَ يَحِلُّ لَهُ نِكَاحُ ابْنَتِهَا فَإِنْ لَمْ يَكُنْ دَخَلَ بِهَا فَلْيَنْكِحِ ابْنَتَهَا وَأَيُّمَا رَجُلٍ نَكَحَ امْرَأَةً فَدَخَلَ بِهَا أَوْ لَمْ يَدْخُلْ بِهَا فَلاَ يَحِلُّ لَهُ نِكَاحُ أُمِّهَا " . قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى هَذَا حَدِيثٌ لاَ يَصِحُّ مِنْ قِبَلِ إِسْنَادِهِ وَإِنَّمَا رَوَاهُ ابْنُ لَهِيعَةَ وَالْمُثَنَّى بْنُ الصَّبَّاحِ عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ شُعَيْبٍ . وَالْمُثَنَّى بْنُ الصَّبَّاحِ وَابْنُ لَهِيعَةَ يُضَعَّفَانِ فِي الْحَدِيثِ . وَالْعَمَلُ عَلَى هَذَا عِنْدَ أَكْثَرِ أَهْلِ الْعِلْمِ قَالُوا إِذَا تَزَوَّجَ الرَّجُلُ امْرَأَةً ثُمَّ طَلَّقَهَا قَبْلَ أَنْ يَدْخُلَ بِهَا حَلَّ لَهُ أَنْ يَنْكِحَ ابْنَتَهَا وَإِذَا تَزَوَّجَ الرَّجُلُ الاِبْنَةَ فَطَلَّقَهَا قَبْلَ أَنْ يَدْخُلَ بِهَا لَمْ يَحِلَّ لَهُ نِكَاحُ أُمِّهَا لِقَوْلِ اللَّهِ تَعَالَى (وَأُمَّهَاتُ نِسَائِكُمْ ) وَهُوَ قَوْلُ الشَّافِعِيِّ وَأَحْمَدَ وَإِسْحَاقَ .
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If the original gospel was changed, when did this happen? Mohammed was active from 570 AD to 632 AD. During his life, the Quran arrived. So if the gospel was already changed at that time, then Mohammed and the Quran wouldn't say the Gospel was true would they? So if this Muslim gospel was rewritten at some time in the past, then this could not have happened BEFORE the life of Mohammed, because Mohammed would not affirm the truth of a false Gospel, right? So if the gospel was rewritten. then this would have to happen AFTER the life of Mohammed, meaning AFTER the year 632. But the fact is, there are existing physical copies of the bible that were made BEFORE Mohammed was born. Those bibles do not have any Islamic content. They still say that Jesus was crucified, which the Quran denies. So we know that the Gospel was not changed, because the gospel we have in our hands now is the same as the gospel that existed before Mohammed.
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Hey Chris. Check out Avery from God Logic Apologetics' manner in dealing with the "corrupted Bible" argument. He turns it around by saying that he (Avery) is an original Quran only Christian. That is, as a Christian, he believes in the original Quran, the one that affirms the Godhood and sonship of Jesus, the Trinity, etc which were all in the original Quran, but unfortunately, this original Quran was corrupted by Uthman, and the Qurans available now are all corrupted.
The times he used this way of arguing in muslim channels, he got get kicked out, and I have not yet heard a good rebuttal for this approach of his.
Not sure if the argument is ready for speakers corner, but as you mentioned, most of the criticisms dawahgandists level against Christianity and the Bible, can easily be pointed towerds Islam and the Quran instead. The same is true with the argument "we believe in the original Gospel, but what you have is corrupt".
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Thanks for the accidental shout out:)
Allah has body parts and is unlike anything in creation cannot lead to anything but the total incomprehensibility of Allah. Even metaphor requires a referent , a likeness so cannot save this. Also saying the distinction of say qualities like mercy are a matter of degree does not save this, there is still an explicit likening to something in creation.
Islam as a defensive approach attempts to do the ultimate divine hiddeness , not only is Allah's existence not readily evident to us , but they demand we have no idea what Allah is.
The Quran makes the case it's clear , and also that somethings are incomprehensible to any but Allah, but at no point how to tell the difference , an apparently subjectively interpreted clear verse could in fact be one Allah would insist is incomprehensible , and a subjectively incomprehensible verse might very well be clear just beyond our subjective ken. This makes the whole Quran ambiguous.
A telling thing for me in religions , being an atheist , are textual circular defenses . In the bible the "fool has said in his heart ...." , this offers a believer the denigration of the unbeliever as merely a fool as an excuse for why their arguments are falling on reluctant ears. But Islam is riddled with this kind of rhetoric, any rejection of argument is not considered on it's merits, it's always framed a failing in the person making the rebuttal, a divine level of ad hominem attack . They are incapable of even discussing big parts of their theology , almost all aspects of their understanding of Allah and the unseen are sealed to scrutiny even for themselves . The Quran's challenge of produce a sura like it , is sealed against a believer even considering any attempt of the challenge can be successful, because to even consider it possible , is unbelief, leading to hellfire. How weak is that , "here's a challenge , buuut I'll insure can never be tested." etc etc
I like your manner and honesty Chris , but I see the grind of interacting with Islam at the corner there is having an effect on you, there is no sincerity in the conversations the Dawah Crews offer , its like the paradox of tolerance for conversations, in discourse we start being charitable , sincere, and kind , but after enough examples of this not being reciprocated , you have to change, and the change is something that never sits comfortably, they drag you down to their standards eventually.
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To make his argument work, he had to misrepresent your position. Basically, you argued that even if only a portion of the Torah and Injeel were confirmed, the dilemma would still hold as a valid argument. This debate posed a very difficult challenge for the Muslims, and the average Muslim wouldn’t align with Deen Responds' position from the beginning. Deen, however, is limited by his beliefs, which causes him to distort his understanding of the Torah and Injeel. Despite this, he is forced to admit that at least parts of the Torah and Injeel come from the Bible we have today. Additionally, by agreeing that a portion of these texts is correct, Deen unknowingly supported Chris’s argument, giving Chris the upper hand in the debate.
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