Comments by "Yesica1993" (@Yesica1993) on "Do We Have Free Will? | 5 Minute Video" video.
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Jake let me change my name Dagger back to normal
I can barely make out these run on sentences. Please learn to write so that you can be understood.
"humans are not particularly special,so what, we can build houses and talk, in fact as far as we know, the only differentiation between us and animals, is language, "
You say "language" like it's no big deal. It's not just the ability to make sounds. Some birds can mimic human speech so accurately that it's spooky to hear it. But that's ALL they are doing, mimicing the sounds. They don't understand the meaning of the sounds they are creating.
And that's the key. Human language is an incredible thing because we are the only creatures who can self reflect and then communicate our thoughts to others. No other creature can do such a thing.
And that's just one of the things that makes human beings unique. There are others.
"Humans are not special, we just more reckless and destructive,"
How tiresome it is to see human beings who hate human beings the way you do.
Who do you think SAVES other animals? Who are the ones who create things like animal shelters, conservation programs, rescue operations and all the rest?
Which are the ONLY creatures who are able to become veterinarians to help heal other creatures? Ever see an animal become a doctor to help heal humans? Of course not.
So this nonsense that we are not special is just that - utter nonsense. The fact that you are sitting there typing and communicating with me is proof of that! What other creature on the planet can do such a thing? Only human beings!
" animals live within their needs,"
Nonsense. Animal kill each other all the time, for reasons other than food or self defense.
" humans want to live in Luxury, even if that means oppressing people for that luxury, cue capitalism."
That sound you hear is my eyes rolling to the back of my head.
Oh, that capitalism is so evil, eh? You mean that same capitalism that allows you to have a computer or a phone that you are using to communicate right now? LOL!
"We are literally just glorified apes, with arbitrary though of spirituality, and social norms. "
No, we are not. And I've described a few reasons why. (Which reasons you will now completely ignore or dismiss. Right?)
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Jake let me change my name Dagger back to normal
"No, just No,"
Just no, what? You didn't address what I said. Animals do not have language. They can learn to mimic certain things, but that's all.
" Language is communication, "
Did I say it wasn't? Of course there is verbal and non-verbal communication. I am not denying that. Animals can communicate with each other (and with humans) to a certain extent. Infants/small children can communicate to a certain extent, before they learn any speech.
But only human beings have language and speech. Animals do not and never will have that. They do not have that capacity, which is why there is a distinction between animals and human beings.
I'm not sure how anything you said there refutes that factual statement.
"And that's the key. Human language is an incredible thing because we are the only creatures who can self reflect and then communicate our thoughts to others. No other creature can do such a thing."
"Apes do, when we give them language, the express desire, need and their thoughts, like sad Koko is a good example of this."
Koko is an animal. Nothing more. Maybe an intelligent one, but that's it. She can't ever do the things human beings can - no matter how much humans project these qualities onto her.
"And that's just one of the things that makes human beings unique. There are others."
"Outside of being extra destructive, no not really."
I've given you several of those reasons. You ignored them, just like I knew and said that you would.
"Who do you think SAVES other animals? Who are the ones who create things like animal shelters, conservation programs, rescue operations and all the rest?"
"Who do you think endangered them, who do you think killed them for fur, and oils, im not sure if you know this"
Notice how you didn't ADDRESS the facts I gave?
"but since the arrival of humans, we have created a Extinction event on the level of a Ice age."
LOL! Oh, please.
I'm sorry, I just don't have time for this.
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Jason Biggs "We are saying this: Your explanation, your worldviews, is insufficient to dictate how society ought to run"
Exactly right. But anti-theists cannot seem to grasp this.
We say: Atheism has no grounding for morality.
They hear: Atheists are immoral / bad people.
But we are not saying atheists are bad people. We are not saying that atheists can never do any good things.
What we are saying is that if the atheistic worldview is true, if material reality is all that exists, if we are just molecules crashing about in the universe, then the very concepts of "right" or "wrong", "moral" or "immoral" have no meaning because there is no transcendent standard for what is right or wrong.
If the atheistic worldview is correct, then each person or each community defines what is right or wrong for them. It's entirely subjective. One person may think it's wrong to throw other people into gas chambers. But another person may think such an act is right. If everything is indeed subjective, then who are we to say that ANYONE is wrong for doing ANYTHING?
By that reasoning, we need to throw out the entire legal system. After all, one person may think it's "wrong" to break into someone's home and steal their possessions, but another person thinks it's "right".
"Who are we to judge?" Isn't that the societal mantra for today? And yet we do judge between right and wrong, every day. We cannot exist without doing so.
As to free will, if we are "just our brains" and we have no real free will, then why should we trust anything we even think? Why should we be held accountable for anything we do? A mass murderer could easily say, "My brain made me do it! I am not responsible!" But if we let a mass murderer go on those grounds, we'd think it a grave injustice because we DO hold people accountable for their actions.
If it's just our brains doing things, not us making conscious choices, then we are not accountable for anything we say or do. But no one lives that way - not even atheists - because no one CAN live that way.
But again, try to explain this to atheists/materialists and you get nowhere. I have run out of ideas or angles to use in trying to do. Perhaps you've thought of something more effective. I am tapped out!
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