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Nah the interviewed kid only knew him during highschool. And the bullying occured before highschool. Salvador was already messed up long before Ivan knew about him. Salvador was bullied at the earliest ages of brain development because of his lisp. It's very irresponsible of this kid to go around spouting misinformation like this about a kid he only knew a few years of his life.
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@rondodson5736 Like I said, he knew him only during highschool. And some of the gunmans friends from before highschool said he was in fact bullied for his lisp. You didnt know either of them too, so how is this relevant? Use your brain and stop trying to sound intelligent.
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@Journeygirlme so you believe 1 random person over the other? truth is we dont know if he was a bully or bullied. the words of some kid that went to his school arent 100% trustworthy.
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@phoenixrising4995 you're part of the reason why we are getting nowhere with these issues. he was not a monster, he was not the devil. he was a baby born the same as you or me, and things went wrong in his life that steered him in the wrong direction. he was not born a mass murderer, the world around him made him that way and its important to figure out how it happened. educate yourself.
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why are you calling him intelligent just because he's making unproven claims?
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I dont believe he was a bully. The interviewed kid seems off.
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@winstonlewis5630 and you trust the words of the teenager why? you dont think its possible that he was actually the bully and hes trying to cover it up? what reason would the neighbor have to lie.
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@ThePopeII his old best friend came forward and said he was bullied. And I believe that testimony over the words of some random kid from his school thats smirking during an interview. this kid has no credibility.
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sounds like the interviewed kid was lying to me. maybe he was one of the gunmens bullies.
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yeah he seems pretty sus. how did he know this random kid who went to his school hurts animals. did he post about it on facebook? nothing about that on the news yet. or did he follow him into the woods and witness it? Sounds made up af.1
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@ThePopeII Actually its been said that he was bullied because of his lisp. I highly doubt he was ever bullied because of the way he treated others. And the whole abuse of defenseless animals and targeting of the elementary kids was most likely due to deep rooted psychological trauma of being bullied at a young age when his brain was developing, since we now know this all occurred before highschool. And yes a lack of father figure at that age certainly didnt help.
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evil doesnt exist. maybe if you actually tried to understand people better you wouldnt be part of the problem where our society makes people this way. instead of just looking at him and calling him evil like he was just born that way and never couldve been anything better.
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@Sam0 B00 he wasnt lying or making it up, but he only knew the gunman during highschool. it has been said by a lot of people that knew him that the bullying happened before highschool and is what caused him to act out that way during highschool. so its pretty irresponsible of this kid to say he wasnt bullied when he doesnt have the full picture.
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@manicpixiecoffeelovr you say "fact" as if this kid couldnt be lying and actually be the bully himself. many people have stated that the gunman was bullied. we dont know that it is a "fact" that he was actually the bully himself just because some teenager on the news said so.
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How did he see him hurt the animals? Youd think if he posted it on social media we wouldve heard something by now. Or did he just randomly follow his classmate into the woods and witness it? Kid sounds like hes lying, maybe he was the bully.
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@marcienicholson3051 well, animals are alive. a clump of cells without a heartbeat or brain activity is not a living organism yet, so yeah its different.
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@TrustDaMagic because I watched more than just this video? and read articles? A little thing called research, you ever try it?
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@vonniejoshua8028 knowing him doesnt mean anything. everyone who went to the school knew him. and some of his old friends have come forward and said that he was in fact bullied. so who do you believe, his friends or this random kid smirking for his 1 minute interview?
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@EmpressKajal the fact that you are only looking at his "right to take lives" baffles me. no one is saying whether he was bullied or not gives him the right to take lives. but whether he was bullied or not MATTERS because that is what messed up this kids mental state to the point that he did the things he did. how do you expect to solve problems like this in the future when you ignore the context of his life and dont even try to understand. the very words "what does it matter?" about a topic like this are some of the most ignorant things ive ever read
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@BareInTheWoodz1881 it makes sense that if he was bullied in elementary school then he would go back to where his trauma started. we know his bullying occurred before he was in high school so it likely happened when he was in elementary
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He absolutely was bullied. The interviewed kid only knew him during highschool and the bullying occurred before that. In highschool he ended up hanging out with people like himself so that ee wouldnt be picked on like he was in previous schools. This kid only paints part of the picture because he didnt know him his whole life obviously.
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@yuhyuhyuhyuh7158 ah yes the words of a teenager who is smiling while talking about it. very trustworthy and accurate information.
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@SkylarRace It definitely was gossip as lots of people have come forward and said he was bullied about his lisp. Maybe it happened before highschool and the kid didnt know what he was talking about. But in that case he should just not speak about some one he didnt know.
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@cheo5561 uhh yeah, typically when you dont know some one their entire life and you say "he was never bullied" you are not the most accurate source of information. And that school did not look like a small town school at all. And considering other kids have come forward and said salvador was in fact bullied before highschool for his lisp and the way he dressed, Im sure ramos clearly didnt know him before highschool.
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@BigWheel. I dont think hes trying to lie. But he didnt know salvador before highschool, when the bullying actually occurred. Salvador was already messed up by that point, you dont really come back from being bullied during early age brain development if you dont get some serious counseling, which he obviously never did. And I think its pretty irresponsible for Ivan to be interviewed about some one he only knew for a few years in highschool, after he was already bullied in previous schools.
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@mikeking3400 And you know that he knew him more than I did how? Did you go to their school and know that they shared the same classes? did you know everyone in your highschool? No im not full of myself its just basic common knowledge that just because you go to school with some one you dont know them better than you know a random stranger that you pass on the street.
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@mikeking3400 seeing their faces and knowing their names is not "knowing" them.
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@cheo5561 did you read at all what I said? he was bullied before highschool. this kid only knew him during highschool. he said he wasnt bullied because he didnt know him when he was bullied.
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@cheo5561 he didnt say he wasnt bullied in highschool. he said he wasnt bullied, which is simply false. and a massive drop of misinformation when looking into the psychology of the gunman's mental state. If he didnt know the guy outside of highschool then he shouldnt make blanket statements like "he wasnt bullied," instead he could have said "for as long as I knew him in highschool, he wasnt bullied," but the way he said it is incredibly misleading and irresponsible.
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@GlennaVan those werent the pertinent years that shaped his mental state though. As I said he was bullied at a younger during an even earlier stage of brain development. I dont need to know the shooter to know how experiences of trauma at an even earlier age than highschool can mess a kid up for life.
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@ancientogre4365 already did, your turn.
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@ericsneary5430 instead of resorting to ad hominem how about you try to make a point, or are you not intelligent enough?
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@Lj_el_great you seem to not use logic at all. everyone reacts to trauma in different ways. some people have the mental fortitude to deal with it, others are damaged by it and that damage causes a domino effect of mental instability in their lives that eventually lead to something like this. The fact that you think some one trying to learn and understand the cause and effects that led up to this shooting is "defending" it just shows that you're part of the problem. You have no empathy for him, and a lack of empathy in our society for people like him is what made him this way.
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Hereandthere andnowinyourface It does, and it technically was. The fbi alerted the secret service of the warrant before entering so idk what hes talking about.
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Hurting animals is a sign of deeply rooted psychological issues. salvador was in fact bullied. But it occurred before highschool, at an early age of brain development. He was already mentally messed up by the time this interviewed young man knew about him.
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@celestinalunar6902 that is quite possibly the most ignorant thing ive read yet on these videos. everyones mental state and brain is different. its not as easy as jUsT igNoRe tHe bUlLy. We are flawed organisms, not robots that can program our brains to all think the same. at the end of the day the bullys actions have consequences and telling some one to just ignore the bully does not absolve the bullies of their responsibility in shaping the mental state of mentally unhealthy individuals.
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@conservativetexan629 who am i bullying?
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@jesuswesleyramirez4165 Oh hAHa very funny and witty, I almost forgot for a second that you used humor as a means to discredit my argument since you dont have one of your own. xD!!
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@hannahscott6604 and you're unintelligent. period
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@cheo5561 What? he said thats how he observed ramos behaving during high school because he only knew him during highschool. I feel like im talking to a brick wall. I swear i've repeated that statement like 3 times now.
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@dragonflarefrog1424 ok? and other classmates have also said he was bullied. so you just choose to believe which classmates you want to believe. do you even know what a conspiracy theory is? or bootlicking? you sound like your parents finally let you on the internet and youve learned a bunch of new buzzwords that you want to share with the world. grow up
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@TessHelgeson point out where i defended him?
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@TessHelgeson At what point did my comment rationalize and make excuses? There is a massive difference between making excuses and trying to find the reason that something happened. "Most bullies are the aggressors," this statement is inherently false. As studies show that most bullies have endured some kind of trauma at some point in their life. For example in Ramos' case, he was not bullied in high school and was the aggressor, yes. But he was in fact bullied at a younger age due to his lisp. This bullying is even worse because the younger the age you are bullied at the worse it is in your brain development and mental state getting older. No one is trying to paint a picture of a depressed child but there is a reason he turned out the way he did and knowing that reason is important to prevent things like this from happening in the future. It would be completely irresponsible to just call him a psycopath or evil like so many people in the comments do, without realizing they are being part of the problem by not even trying to understand where it went wrong in his life. Its so easy to ignore our environment, society, culture, and not look at ourselves and just call him a monster and forget about him. Then something bad happens with some one else and we repeat the same pathetic lazy excuses "he was just evil." People are truly ignorant.
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@wildonions3188 what about the statement of not being bullied? lots of kids that knew him came forward and said he was in fact bullied for his lisp
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@alexmthegoat The guy on the knews? You mean the random kid they interviewed who may not have even known the guy? Also, yeah, duh, no one shoots up a school if theyre not sick in the head. That is why mental illness should be taken seriously.
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@stereonyan and what does that prove? hundreds of kids went to school with the guy, did they all actually know him?
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@RadMarchand you probably see your neighbor as often as you see some random kid in school, unless hes in your class, which this guy didnt say he was.
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@karinaz8756 tf do you mean make mental health a scapegoat? what are bullies if not mentally unhealthy? do you even think about the things you type when you click reply?
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and you are just st*pid. evil doesnt exist. the community around us and the chemicals in our brains/our genetics make us who we are. there is a cause and effect behind every human action and it not because the big magic man in the sky or the demon underground told people to.
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It's not an excuse. And he was in fact bullied, but it occured before highschool and before the interviewed young man even knw him. And why are you sick of hearing about an actual issue that causes things like this to occur? Would it be easier for you to believe that Salvador Ramos was just born and predestinated to be a mass shooter? Please educate yourself and do your own thinking, you're taking the opinion of a literal teenager and making it your own.
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