Comments by "Ronald Greene" (@ronaldgreene5733) on "Professor Dave Explains"
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. . Here is a debate:
To circumnavigate the Earth using standard airline flights on a route south of the equator -- when using the Flat Earth model (with the North Pole in the center and the South Pole as the outer edge around the flat Earth) -- would require more than twice the distance flown and twice the number of flight hours in comparison to a similar route north of the equator. As an example, if both routes were flown at precisely 45 degrees latitude -- one in the north, and the other in the south -- mathematically (in the Flat Earth model) the southern route would require 2 1/3 times more miles or 233% greater distance flown.
Here are actual flight times and distances for nonstop flights now in
service [2019 schedules]:
Following a route north of the equator from Paris to Hong Kong to Guam to Honolulu to Los Angeles to New York and returning to Paris gives the following flight times and distances:
Paris to Hong Kong 12 hours 10 minutes
5970 miles -- Air France Flight 188
Hong Kong to Guam 4 hours 45 minutes
2090 miles -- United Airlines Flight 116
Guam to Honolulu 7 hours 5 minutes
3800 miles -- United Airlines Flight 200
Honolulu to Los Angeles 5 hours 10 minutes
2550 miles -- United Airlines Flight 534
Los Angeles to New York 5 hours 23 minutes
2470 miles -- Jet Blue Airways Flight 624
New York to Paris 6 hours 50 minutes
3620 miles -- Norwegian Air Shuttle Flight 7020
Total distance flown:
5990+2090+3800+2550+2470+3620=20,520 miles
Total flight time: 41 hours 23 minutes
To circumnavigate the Earth on a route south of the equator from Sydney, Australia to Santiago, Chile to Sao Paulo, Brazil to Johannesburg, South Africa and returning to Sydney gives the following flight times and distances:
Sydney to Santiago 12 hours 20 minutes
7040 miles -- Qantas Airways Flight 27
Santiago to Sao Paulo 3 hours 40 minutes 1610 miles -- Emirates Airlines
Flight 264
Sao Paulo to Johannesburg 10 hours 20 min
4630 miles -- Latam Airlines Flight 8058
Johannesburg to Sydney 11 hours 45 min
6850 miles -- Qantas Airways Flight 64
Total distance flown:
7040+1610+4630+6850=20,130 miles
Total flight time: 38 hours 5 minutes
These are standard non-stop flights traveling east with normal flight times that are flown by the public regularly and published through various online booking agencies. These therefore cannot be disputed and provide simple proof in terms of time and distance traveled on similar jet aircraft.
We were looking for something of at least twice the distance for the southern route. However, the distances are relatively very close, the northern route actually having the greater distance. This is sufficient proof that the northern and southern hemispheres are concentrically very similar and therefore cannot share a flat plane. The Earth must be spherical as a result.
Flat Earth becomes a religion just as many scientific disciplines have been rendered, limiting and suppressing knowledge both old and new for various misguided reasons.
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Here is a debate:
To circumnavigate the Earth using standard airline flights on a route south of the equator -- when using the Flat Earth model (with the North Pole in the center and the South Pole as the outer edge around the flat Earth) -- would require at least twice the distance flown and twice the number of flight hours or more in comparison to a similar route north of the equator. As an example, if both routes were flown at precisely 45 degrees latitude -- one in the north, and the other in the south -- mathematically (in the Flat Earth model) the southern route would require 2 1/3 times more miles or 233% greater distance flown.
Here are actual flight times and distances for nonstop flights now in service:
Following a route north of the equator from Paris to Hong Kong to Guam to Honolulu to Los Angeles to New York and returning to Paris gives the following flight times and distances:
Paris to Hong Kong 12 hours 10 minutes 5970 miles -- Air France Flight 188
Hong Kong to Guam 4 hours 45 minutes 2090 miles -- United Airlines Flight 116
Guam to Honolulu 7 hours 5 minutes 3800 miles -- United Airlines Flight 200
Honolulu to Los Angeles 5 hours 10 minutes 2550 miles -- United Airlines Flight 534
Los Angeles to New York 5 hours 23 minutes 2470 miles -- Jet Blue Airways Flight 624
New York to Paris 6 hours 50 minutes 3620 miles -- Norwegian Air Shuttle Flight 7020
Total distance flown: 5970+2090+3800+2550+2470+3620=20,500 miles
Total flight time: 41 hours 23 minutes
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To circumnavigate the Earth on a route south of the equator from Sydney, Australia to Santiago, Chile to Sao Paulo, Brazil to Johannesburg, South Africa and returning to Sydney gives the following flight times and distances:
Sydney to Santiago 12 hours 20 minutes 7040 miles -- Qantas Airways Flight 27
Santiago to Sao Paulo 3 hours 40 minutes 1610 miles -- Emirates Airlines Flight 264
Sao Paulo to Johannesburg 10 hours 20 min 4630 miles -- Latam Airlines Flight 8058
Johannesburg to Sydney 11 hours 45 min 6850 miles -- Qantas Airways Flight 64
Total distance flown: 7040+1610+4630+6850=20,130 miles
Total flight time: 38 hours 5 minutes
These are standard non-stop flights traveling east with normal flight times that are flown by the public regularly and published through various online booking agencies. These therefore cannot be disputed and provide simple proof in terms of time and distance traveled on similar jet aircraft.
We were looking for something of at least twice the distance for the southern route. However, the distances are relatively very close, the northern route actually having the greater distance. This is sufficient proof that the northern and southern hemispheres are concentrically very similar and therefore cannot share a flat plane. The Earth must be spherical as a result.
Flat Earth becomes a religion just as many other scientific disciplines have been rendered, limiting and suppressing knowledge both old and new for various misguided reasons.
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Denial . . Science denial . .
Sponsored efforts will never question the nature of security narratives provided in justification, when support is involved, by which institutions of science are also in part corrupted within as a part of the clued-in networking environment in safekeeping and status keeping, in alignment with eugenicist based narratives -- involving extreme agendas that none will question in a one directional exchange that masquerades as the development of ideas and concerns, without the ability to identify where initiative lay in the process -- responsibility for so much concern assumed through repetition in the circulation of information, managed no differently than public narratives in repetition -- figureheads do not serve in that capacity. The more extreme the approach and the more serious the concern as shared in confidentiality, the less need will you find in any skeptic in name to address serious issues responsibly, when support required would be of an individual nature in initiative and one's own individual perspective and integrity.
The ultimate form of delusion and deception is in any form of confidentiality when tied to any concept of security -- the ultimate form in assumed concern for the planet in extreme measures intimated -- while not recognizing beyond ones enthrallment in participation the overwhelmingly influence prevalent today, as though such influence did not previously exist during recent decades and further back for a century and more, under the notion that humanity was out of control, rather than the scourge that has been perpetrated upon humanity in the management of crises that can be developed -:not by conspiracy, but through the same means by which one person here will not question his part in this production. Normalized human behavior and acceptance are the means through group-oriented behavior and identification - the means of influence and division in human memory . . the art of politics and any form of division -- when you take the individual out of the process.
The eugenicist's philosophical insider's perspective originates from those influences that have proven time and again that concern is not in existence, but for the control and augmentation and stasis of power -- however addictive such perspective may be. To buy any conscientious philosophy at the level from which conscience is disdained and entirely outside of the culture is to buy delusion wholesale, regardless of ones job or social position. Consensus is a powerful motivator that requires no other confirmation or justification.
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Denial . . Science denial . .
Sponsored efforts will never question the nature of security narratives provided in justification, when support is involved, by which institutions of science are also in part corrupted within as a part of the clued-in networking environment in safekeeping and status keeping, in alignment with eugenicist based narratives -- involving extreme agendas that none will question in a one directional exchange that masquerades as the development of ideas and concerns, without the ability to identify where initiative lay in the process -- responsibility for so much concern assumed through repetition in the circulation of information, managed no differently than public narratives in repetition -- figureheads do not serve in that capacity. The more extreme the approach and the more serious the concern as shared in confidentiality, the less need will you find in any skeptic in name to address serious issues responsibly, when support required would be of an individual nature in initiative and one's own individual perspective and integrity.
The ultimate form of delusion and deception is in any form of confidentiality when tied to any concept of security -- the ultimate form in assumed concern for the planet in extreme measures intimated -- while not recognizing beyond ones enthrallment in participation the overwhelmingly influence prevalent today, as though such influence did not previously exist during recent decades and further back for a century and more, under the notion that humanity was out of control, rather than the scourge that has been perpetrated upon humanity in the management of crises that can be developed -:not by conspiracy, but through the same means by which one person here will not question his part in this production. Normalized human behavior and acceptance are the means through group-oriented behavior and identification - the means of influence and division in human memory . . the art of politics and any form of division -- when you take the individual out of the process.
The eugenicist's philosophical insider's perspective originates from those influences that have proven time and again that concern is not in existence, but for the control and augmentation and stasis of power -- however addictive such perspective may be. To buy any conscientious philosophy at the level from which conscience is disdained and entirely outside of the culture is to buy delusion wholesale, regardless of ones job or social position. Consensus is a powerful motivator that requires no other confirmation or justification.
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Denial . . Science denial . .
Sponsored efforts will never question the nature of security narratives provided in justification, when support is involved, by which institutions of science are also in part corrupted within as a part of the clued-in networking environment in safekeeping and status keeping, in alignment with eugenicist based narratives -- involving extreme agendas that none will question in a one directional exchange that masquerades as the development of ideas and concerns, without the ability to identify where initiative lay in the process -- responsibility for so much concern assumed through repetition in the circulation of information, managed no differently than public narratives in repetition -- figureheads do not serve in that capacity. The more extreme the approach and the more serious the concern as shared in confidentiality, the less need will you find in any skeptic in name to address serious issues responsibly, when support required would be of an individual nature in initiative and one's own individual perspective and integrity.
The ultimate form of delusion and deception is in any form of confidentiality when tied to any concept of security -- the ultimate form in assumed concern for the planet in extreme measures intimated -- while not recognizing beyond ones enthrallment in participation the overwhelmingly influence prevalent today, as though such influence did not previously exist during recent decades and further back for a century and more, under the notion that humanity was out of control, rather than the scourge that has been perpetrated upon humanity in the management of crises that can be developed -:not by conspiracy, but through the same means by which one person here will not question his part in this production. Normalized human behavior and acceptance are the means through group-oriented behavior and identification - the means of influence and division in human memory . . the art of politics and any form of division -- when you take the individual out of the process.
The eugenicist's philosophical insider's perspective originates from those influences that have proven time and again that concern is not in existence, but for the control and augmentation and stasis of power -- however addictive such perspective may be. To buy any conscientious philosophy at the level from which conscience is disdained and entirely outside of the culture is to buy delusion wholesale, regardless of ones job or social position. Consensus is a powerful motivator that requires no other confirmation or justification.
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Denial . . Science denial . .
Sponsored efforts will never question the nature of security narratives provided in justification, when support is involved, by which institutions of science are also in part corrupted within as a part of the clued-in networking environment in safekeeping and status keeping, in alignment with eugenicist based narratives -- involving extreme agendas that none will question in a one directional exchange that masquerades as the development of ideas and concerns, without the ability to identify where initiative lay in the process -- responsibility for so much concern assumed through repetition in the circulation of information, managed no differently than public narratives in repetition -- figureheads do not serve in that capacity. The more extreme the approach and the more serious the concern as shared in confidentiality, the less need will you find in any skeptic in name to address serious issues responsibly, when support required would be of an individual nature in initiative and one's own individual perspective and integrity.
The ultimate form of delusion and deception is in any form of confidentiality when tied to any concept of security -- the ultimate form in assumed concern for the planet in extreme measures intimated -- while not recognizing beyond ones enthrallment in participation the overwhelmingly influence prevalent today, as though such influence did not previously exist during recent decades and further back for a century and more, under the notion that humanity was out of control, rather than the scourge that has been perpetrated upon humanity in the management of crises that can be developed -:not by conspiracy, but through the same means by which one person here will not question his part in this production. Normalized human behavior and acceptance are the means through group-oriented behavior and identification - the means of influence and division in human memory . . the art of politics and any form of division -- when you take the individual out of the process.
The eugenicist's philosophical insider's perspective originates from those influences that have proven time and again that concern is not in existence, but for the control and augmentation and stasis of power -- however addictive such perspective may be. To buy any conscientious philosophy at the level from which conscience is disdained and entirely outside of the culture is to buy delusion wholesale, regardless of ones job or social position. Consensus is a powerful motivator that requires no other confirmation or justification.
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Denial . . Science denial . .
Sponsored efforts will never question the nature of security narratives provided in justification, when support is involved, by which institutions of science are also in part corrupted within as a part of the clued-in networking environment in safekeeping and status keeping, in alignment with eugenicist based narratives -- involving extreme agendas that none will question in a one directional exchange that masquerades as the development of ideas and concerns, without the ability to identify where initiative lay in the process -- responsibility for so much concern assumed through repetition in the circulation of information, managed no differently than public narratives in repetition -- figureheads do not serve in that capacity. The more extreme the approach and the more serious the concern as shared in confidentiality, the less need will you find in any skeptic in name to address serious issues responsibly, when support required would be of an individual nature in initiative and one's own individual perspective and integrity.
The ultimate form of delusion and deception is in any form of confidentiality when tied to any concept of security -- the ultimate form in assumed concern for the planet in extreme measures intimated -- while not recognizing beyond ones enthrallment in participation the overwhelmingly influence prevalent today, as though such influence did not previously exist during recent decades and further back for a century and more, under the notion that humanity was out of control, rather than the scourge that has been perpetrated upon humanity in the management of crises that can be developed -:not by conspiracy, but through the same means by which one person here will not question his part in this production. Normalized human behavior and acceptance are the means through group-oriented behavior and identification - the means of influence and division in human memory . . the art of politics and any form of division -- when you take the individual out of the process.
The eugenicist's philosophical insider's perspective originates from those influences that have proven time and again that concern is not in existence, but for the control and augmentation and stasis of power -- however addictive such perspective may be. To buy any conscientious philosophy at the level from which conscience is disdained and entirely outside of the culture is to buy delusion wholesale, regardless of ones job or social position. Consensus is a powerful motivator that requires no other confirmation or justification.
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Denial . . Science denial . .
Sponsored efforts will never question the nature of security narratives provided in justification, when support is involved, by which institutions of science are also in part corrupted within as a part of the clued-in networking environment in safekeeping and status keeping, in alignment with eugenicist based narratives -- involving extreme agendas that none will question in a one directional exchange that masquerades as the development of ideas and concerns, without the ability to identify where initiative lay in the process -- responsibility for so much concern assumed through repetition in the circulation of information, managed no differently than public narratives in repetition -- figureheads do not serve in that capacity. The more extreme the approach and the more serious the concern as shared in confidentiality, the less need will you find in any skeptic in name to address serious issues responsibly, when support required would be of an individual nature in initiative and one's own individual perspective and integrity.
The ultimate form of delusion and deception is in any form of confidentiality when tied to any concept of security -- the ultimate form in assumed concern for the planet in extreme measures intimated -- while not recognizing beyond ones enthrallment in participation the overwhelmingly influence prevalent today, as though such influence did not previously exist during recent decades and further back for a century and more, under the notion that humanity was out of control, rather than the scourge that has been perpetrated upon humanity in the management of crises that can be developed -:not by conspiracy, but through the same means by which one person here will not question his part in this production. Normalized human behavior and acceptance are the means through group-oriented behavior and identification - the means of influence and division in human memory . . the art of politics and any form of division -- when you take the individual out of the process.
The eugenicist's philosophical insider's perspective originates from those influences that have proven time and again that concern is not in existence, but for the control and augmentation and stasis of power -- however addictive such perspective may be. To buy any conscientious philosophy at the level from which conscience is disdained and entirely outside of the culture is to buy delusion wholesale, regardless of ones job or social position. Consensus is a powerful motivator that requires no other confirmation or justification.
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Denial . . Science denial . .
Sponsored efforts will never question the nature of security narratives provided in justification, when support is involved, by which institutions of science are also in part corrupted within as a part of the clued-in networking environment in safekeeping and status keeping, in alignment with eugenicist based narratives -- involving extreme agendas that none will question in a one directional exchange that masquerades as the development of ideas and concerns, without the ability to identify where initiative lay in the process -- responsibility for so much concern assumed through repetition in the circulation of information, managed no differently than public narratives in repetition -- figureheads do not serve in that capacity. The more extreme the approach and the more serious the concern as shared in confidentiality, the less need will you find in any skeptic in name to address serious issues responsibly, when support required would be of an individual nature in initiative and one's own individual perspective and integrity.
The ultimate form of delusion and deception is in any form of confidentiality when tied to any concept of security -- the ultimate form in assumed concern for the planet in extreme measures intimated -- while not recognizing beyond ones enthrallment in participation the overwhelmingly influence prevalent today, as though such influence did not previously exist during recent decades and further back for a century and more, under the notion that humanity was out of control, rather than the scourge that has been perpetrated upon humanity in the management of crises that can be developed -:not by conspiracy, but through the same means by which one person here will not question his part in this production. Normalized human behavior and acceptance are the means through group-oriented behavior and identification - the means of influence and division in human memory . . the art of politics and any form of division -- when you take the individual out of the process.
The eugenicist's philosophical insider's perspective originates from those influences that have proven time and again that concern is not in existence, but for the control and augmentation and stasis of power -- however addictive such perspective may be. To buy any conscientious philosophy at the level from which conscience is disdained and entirely outside of the culture is to buy delusion wholesale, regardless of ones job or social position. Consensus is a powerful motivator that requires no other confirmation or justification.
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Denial . . Science denial . .
Sponsored efforts will never question the nature of security narratives provided in justification, when support is involved, by which institutions of science are also in part corrupted within as a part of the clued-in networking environment in safekeeping and status keeping, in alignment with eugenicist based narratives -- involving extreme agendas that none will question in a one directional exchange that masquerades as the development of ideas and concerns, without the ability to identify where initiative lay in the process -- responsibility for so much concern assumed through repetition in the circulation of information, managed no differently than public narratives in repetition -- figureheads do not serve in that capacity. The more extreme the approach and the more serious the concern as shared in confidentiality, the less need will you find in any skeptic in name to address serious issues responsibly, when support required would be of an individual nature in initiative and one's own individual perspective and integrity.
The ultimate form of delusion and deception is in any form of confidentiality when tied to any concept of security -- the ultimate form in assumed concern for the planet in extreme measures intimated -- while not recognizing beyond ones enthrallment in participation the overwhelmingly influence prevalent today, as though such influence did not previously exist during recent decades and further back for a century and more, under the notion that humanity was out of control, rather than the scourge that has been perpetrated upon humanity in the management of crises that can be developed -:not by conspiracy, but through the same means by which one person here will not question his part in this production. Normalized human behavior and acceptance are the means through group-oriented behavior and identification - the means of influence and division in human memory . . the art of politics and any form of division -- when you take the individual out of the process.
The eugenicist's philosophical insider's perspective originates from those influences that have proven time and again that concern is not in existence, but for the control and augmentation and stasis of power -- however addictive such perspective may be. To buy any conscientious philosophy at the level from which conscience is disdained and entirely outside of the culture is to buy delusion wholesale, regardless of ones job or social position. Consensus is a powerful motivator that requires no other confirmation or justification.
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Denial . . Science denial . .
Sponsored efforts will never question the nature of security narratives provided in justification, when support is involved, by which institutions of science are also in part corrupted within as a part of the clued-in networking environment in safekeeping and status keeping, in alignment with eugenicist based narratives -- involving extreme agendas that none will question in a one directional exchange that masquerades as the development of ideas and concerns, without the ability to identify where initiative lay in the process -- responsibility for so much concern assumed through repetition in the circulation of information, managed no differently than public narratives in repetition -- figureheads do not serve in that capacity. The more extreme the approach and the more serious the concern as shared in confidentiality, the less need will you find in any skeptic in name to address serious issues responsibly, when support required would be of an individual nature in initiative and one's own individual perspective and integrity.
The ultimate form of delusion and deception is in any form of confidentiality when tied to any concept of security -- the ultimate form in assumed concern for the planet in extreme measures intimated -- while not recognizing beyond ones enthrallment in participation the overwhelmingly influence prevalent today, as though such influence did not previously exist during recent decades and further back for a century and more, under the notion that humanity was out of control, rather than the scourge that has been perpetrated upon humanity in the management of crises that can be developed -:not by conspiracy, but through the same means by which one person here will not question his part in this production. Normalized human behavior and acceptance are the means through group-oriented behavior and identification - the means of influence and division in human memory . . the art of politics and any form of division -- when you take the individual out of the process.
The eugenicist's philosophical insider's perspective originates from those influences that have proven time and again that concern is not in existence, but for the control and augmentation and stasis of power -- however addictive such perspective may be. To buy any conscientious philosophy at the level from which conscience is disdained and entirely outside of the culture is to buy delusion wholesale, regardless of ones job or social position. Consensus is a powerful motivator that requires no other confirmation or justification.
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Denial . . Science denial . .
Sponsored efforts will never question the nature of security narratives provided in justification, when support is involved, by which institutions of science are also in part corrupted within as a part of the clued-in networking environment in safekeeping and status keeping, in alignment with eugenicist based narratives -- involving extreme agendas that none will question in a one directional exchange that masquerades as the development of ideas and concerns, without the ability to identify where initiative lay in the process -- responsibility for so much concern assumed through repetition in the circulation of information, managed no differently than public narratives in repetition -- figureheads do not serve in that capacity. The more extreme the approach and the more serious the concern as shared in confidentiality, the less need will you find in any skeptic in name to address serious issues responsibly, when support required would be of an individual nature in initiative and one's own individual perspective and integrity.
The ultimate form of delusion and deception is in any form of confidentiality when tied to any concept of security -- the ultimate form in assumed concern for the planet in extreme measures intimated -- while not recognizing beyond ones enthrallment in participation the overwhelmingly influence prevalent today, as though such influence did not previously exist during recent decades and further back for a century and more, under the notion that humanity was out of control, rather than the scourge that has been perpetrated upon humanity in the management of crises that can be developed -:not by conspiracy, but through the same means by which one person here will not question his part in this production. Normalized human behavior and acceptance are the means through group-oriented behavior and identification - the means of influence and division in human memory . . the art of politics and any form of division -- when you take the individual out of the process.
The eugenicist's philosophical insider's perspective originates from those influences that have proven time and again that concern is not in existence, but for the control and augmentation and stasis of power -- however addictive such perspective may be. To buy any conscientious philosophy at the level from which conscience is disdained and entirely outside of the culture is to buy delusion wholesale, regardless of ones job or social position. Consensus is a powerful motivator that requires no other confirmation or justification.
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