Comments by "guyonearth" (@guyonearth) on "Truthstream Media"
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Holden Robbins Yes, yes, I’ve seen your list before, it’s been thrust in my face more than once. Unfortunately, very little on that list would really qualify as a “conspiracy”.
The first item, the supposedly poisoned alcohol, is not a conspiracy. It was a legitimate attempt to prevent people from drinking industrial alcohol, something that is still done today.
The second item, the Tuskegee airmen, does not in my mind qualify as a “government conspiracy”...rather, a case of malicious or perhaps just indifferent neglect. I doubt more than a couple of people ever even knew about this at any one time.
The third item, the SV40 incident, is also not a “conspiracy”, but there was probably a conspiracy to cover it up. I took those vaccines, I’m not dead yet.
The fourth item, the Tonkin Gulf incident, is also not a conspiracy. The Maddox actually engaged North Vietnamese boats in combat. The second encounter was acknowledged at the time by the captain as probably having been an overreaction to misleading radar echoes. How the Johnson administration chose to present it to the public has nothing to do with the validity of the incident itself.
The fifth item, Operation Northwoods, is just wrong. This “operation” was never approved, and was explicitly rejected by the officials of the time. There was never any plan to kill American citizens in a false flag attack.
The sixth item, MK Ultra, is probably the closest thing to an actual conspiracy, but it’s really more of a poorly thought out and implemented study of a type which would certainly be illegal today, and highly unethical at best. There was probably a conspiracy to cover it up later, though.
The seventh item, Project Azorian, was not a conspiracy. A covert operation to recover a sunken Soviet submarine’s nuclear weapons is hardly conspiratorial, given the times. It would actually be the responsible thing to do.
The eighth item, Iran Contra, might be considered a conspiracy, though I think the participants would be more likely to characterize it as a covert operation aimed at recovering American hostages, though I’d concede it’s ethically questionable at best.
The ninth item is not a conspiracy, either, just hearsay. These stories circulated at the time, but there was never any proof that they were true.
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