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Comments by "Dorchester Mom" (@DorchesterMom) on "English DNA: What is the Genetic History of England?" video.
My maternal haplo is h6a1b2. I can only take it back seven generations, but it goes to Lancashire where they were textile mill workers. When that line came to America they went to… other textile mills in Massachusetts. I assume we had better labor conditions though 😅 23andme tracks my maternal haplo to the Yamnaya. The specific subclade was found in several Yamnayan burial sites. It came out of the Middle East originally. I’ve been following news in genetics and new studies that have come out seem to suggest that the Bell Beakers absorbed Yamnaya women and brought them to the British Isles and Ireland, so I assume that’s the likely way my foremother arrived in England. Perhaps a video is in order explaining that absorption process??? ❤ I’m mostly Irish on my paper trail but have other lines from Scotland and England… Another such line arrived in America via the Puritan Wave. When I researched that line I found American colonial ancestry that linked to seven Mayflower passengers. Another line on my other side also tracks to Lancashire. The family name on that is “Winterbottom.” Researchers working on that part of the tree said the name itself originates from the fact that the weavers who lived there overwintered at the bottom of the hill where it was protected. They spent the summers overseeing the flocks atop the hill. Pretty cool if true. They also came to Massachusetts to work in our textile mills. All of them, the post famine Irish, the post-clearances highlanders, the mill workers, the pilgrims… they were looking for a better life what a mutt I am.
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What’s really crazy about that is when you are an American-mutt and have Irish/Scots/English… and the first two hate on the latter 😅
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Absolutely not as far as I read. There are a few logical points against it: At the time, the native Irish wouldn’t have mixed in with the soldiers; It was completely taboo. The majority of the soldiers were round up and murdered anyways. Even if some had managed to mix in, they would not have contributed enough DNA to make a marked difference. “Black Irish” just describes a look - think Colin Farrell - dark hair/eyes/complexion. You can see the phenotype mostly in the west (Galway and Cork.) Ireland is a land that was settled many times by many groups people. The ginger stereotype is by no means the reality; it’s high in incidence there, especially when compared to other nations, but most Irish have brown hair. My family is what you would call Black Irish. My dad looks almost Iranian, he’s olive toned with heavy features, jet black hair and dark eyes - but I’ve done his DNA and it’s mostly Connacht, Uist, and Lancashire. The phenotype likely arises from some of the earliest settlers who were Brythonic.
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@johnbrereton5229 with most people who do (point it out) it’s more of an offhand joke. I do sincerely wonder what it would have been like for those just post famine or post clearances marrying into English, but I assume that every single one of them was so beaten down that at the end of the day they were all just people trying to survive in the new land of America. Generally most of my ancestors were poor and illiterate, just trying to find work and support thier families. I know other people though who are more outspoken about those pairings 😅
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I ran my kit against Cheddar Man on gedmatch and have no segments larger than .5 cms in common with him 😢 Rathlin 1, on the other hand is my largest ancient match. Would Rathlin 1 be considered Brythonic or Proto-Celt?
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