Comments by "Goose" (@goose7574) on "The Doomsday Couple faces murder charges for the deaths of Lori Vallow Daybell's children | COURT TV" video.
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@pamelamorris3148
The Prosecution can actually ask for another evaluation given the circumstances. Since only one has been done (and by only one Psychologist), they can ask for another one, especially given the circumstances. It's not as uncommon as people think, to have a Psychopath/Sociopath actually fool a Psychologist. And it's in the cases of these extreme Psychopaths & Sociopaths (obviously not the terminology now used for a Diagnosis, but I'm using it for the regular person who's familiar with that verbiage), where more than one evaluation is not only warranted, but VERY necessary.
In some cases, they will even use a special polygraph system/device (not like the regular ones at a police department), to monitor breathing, perspiration, Blood pressure, heart rate, etc.
Unlike a regular polygraph system where it is hooked to just the chest and hand/fingers (and maybe a floor panel for your feet), this one has extra "parts" (devices), that will also keep track of breathing & perspiration (a device placed right by the nostrils).
They will go through the regular evaluation which usually takes place over a 2-3 day period of time. Usually ranging from 8-12 hours a day, so they can get a could feel for the person's behaviors, mannerisms, etc.
Then they will use the machine after they've already asked multiple questions (the same ones multiple times), to see how the body actually responds.
Since many Narcissists, Sociopaths & Psychopaths are very good at lying (even with a regular polygraph machine), this other machine helps to show more of how the body is reacting internally (something that is possible to control, but easier to detect with a machine, versus the "naked eye").
It's not common to do this with most people, but if somebody is likely a Sociopath or Psychopath, it's more common to do an evaluation like this, since they are so manipulative.
Unfortunately, I know all too well shit this, because of my daughter's father (somebody I still have a DVPO against, nearly 7 years later).
The Psychologist needs to be able to actually see what's going on more internally and how their body is responding, since some of those reactions can't be necessarily witnessed by just interviewing them.
It's possible that she may end up having a total of 3 evaluations, given the circumstances.
Usually, just like with a blood test where you end up with a "positive" finding, they will do another test to see what happens.
Ex:
First One: Negative
Second One: Positive
They will do a third test.
Now with that being said, if the Prosecution is able to get another evaluation done, and it comes back that she's still NOT competent, then they would likely stop there, but if it comes back that she's actually competent, the courts will likely do a third eval. (more or less a "tie-breaker"), to try to get the best read of things (findings).
Sorry for such a long comment...
Take care
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@pamelamorris3148
I understand what you're saying.
I've actually been through this personally and understand all too well, how things work. It's not very common for somebody to be able to "trick" a Psychologist, but it is possible.
I had to actually fight my ex in court, to have another evaluation done, because the first person said one thing, and I knew it wasn't correct. Sorry for a longer comment, so please be patient and bare with me. This person had lied about DV and given that I had a child with him, I had to fight to have an eval done. I knew that something wasn't right, and that he was just a master manipulator.
The first time it was done with him being able to choose (something I knew wouldn't end up well, because I watched him trick the court with his 3rd wife and knew he would just go to a different place if he didn't like the outcome).
I was finally able to choose a place, but had to pay for it, almost $4,000.
It was a very extensive evaluation, even covering sexual things as well.
Having gone through that, almost 5 years ago now, it pushed me to really educate myself with mental evaluations and how they work, especially with a court.
Yes, if a psychologist is doing their job, the patient SHOULDN'T be able to "fool" them, but unfortunately it definitely happens, even when the courts are involved, and they have years of experience.
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