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Comments by "" (@timogul) on "Biden pleads to protect democracy in primetime speech l ABCNL" video.
Nah. Republicans like saying that though.
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@motor-head You misunderstood me, I'm not a Republican.
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@Bill Randleman Still not a Republican, so no, I'm not the one taking a break from reality. You really need to find better sources of information than whatever it is you're using.
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No, it means "being able to vote for your representatives, and having the results respected." I think you're thinking of Republicans, who do mean "the conservative agenda," and are fairly open about not caring whether the outcomes reflect the positions of the people, so long as they are conservative outcomes.
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The opposite is true. Republicans across the country are campaigning on rigging future elections. It would be ignorant at best to pretend that Republicans are in favor of maintaining the republic.
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@CoercedJab That might be true in a different time, but right now the Republican party is a threat to anyone who cares about being able to vote again in the future, and that threat needs to be dealt with before any other considerations matter. You might have problems with how the election systems work, and it might be a good idea to change some of them to make them more fair and representative, but you would need massive Democratic majorities to make that possible in the first place. You can't rationally act as if you exist in a world that is not the one we actually live in.
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@BBB-rd2qi If you were a Democrat for 40 years, and 2022 is the year in which you feel comfortable voting for a Republican, then that says nothing remotely good about your intelligence or morals. This is an election in which NO intelligent and moral person could vote for any Republican. Also, it is not "Biden's gas," it is the oil companies. They are the ones doing this. Biden has done everything that a president can to keep their actions in check, which is why the US gas prices and inflation are LOWER than in the rest of the world right now.
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@Ibugsbunny713 If they wanted to protect democracy then they would be voting for Democrats, because the Republicans have openly vowed to destroy it. If you actually know people who claim to be Democrats "switching parties" right now, then they are remarkably stupid people.
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@Bill Randleman Again, you keep confusing me for a Republican. I am not a part of the MAGA cult. Do you have some form of aphasia?
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@shmobiden6860 61% of Republicans believe that Row should be the law of the land, considerably higher if you're talking the country as a whole. Democrats support that.
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@shmobiden6860 That would be nice, but unfortunately Republicans have corrupted the electoral process in many states, so that even if 60% of the people of the state vote for Democrats to represent them, their legislatures and Congressional seats go to a majority of Republicans instead. Then those Republicans vote for bills that the majority of their state reject. Not to mention that the primary process has become so horribly skewed that only the most radical Republicans can get the nomination, and then many more centrist Republicans will vote for them in the general out of blind party loyalty, even if they do not actually reflect many of their own values. This is not a functional democracy, and Republicans only continue to make it worse.
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@idahoterritorymotorsportsv9374 There are far fewer left wing extremists in the Democratic party than there are right wing extremists in the Republican party. The US Democratic party is actually fairly far to the right of most other countries in the world, closer to their conservative parties in most aspects. It is only the faux news that tries to paint the Democrats as "super lefty," so as to move the goal posts further to the right. If this were a football game, the posts would be in the parking lot by this point. Also, Democrats have much more tolerance for "people with different beliefs than their own" than the Republicans do. That tolerance ends when people try to use their "different beliefs" to oppress others. If your beliefs say that you have the right to deny service to someone because of their sexual orientation, for example, then yeah, any right-minded person would take issue with that. Mainly, it just sounds like you don't know many Democrats, and only know what the faux news tells you to think about them.
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@shmobiden6860 Maybe so, but the fact remains that they did that in only a handful of the races in which a complete lunatic won the Republican nomination, and the fact is that regardless of campaign ads, Republican voters actually voted for these nutbars. They can't blame Democrats for that.
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@shmobiden6860 If she does win, then it would be likely one of her other primary opponents would have won instead, and none of them would have been better than the Democratic candidate. The fact remains that this falls entirely at the feet of Republican voters.
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@nfsfanAndrew Liberals did respect the 2016 loss. Clinton conceeded on election night, rather than attempting an insurrection. We didn't like the results, but we accepted them. Abrams did too, once the final counts were in. Everyone agreed that dirty tricks played a role in how she lost, but it was an election that was legally confirmed, so everyone accepted the eventual outcome. Same with Al Gore, he conceded the election once the Supreme Court made their decision, even when in actual fact he had won that election, and we all would have been better off with him as President in 2001 than Bush. So you are 0 for 3 on "Democrats are maybe as bad as Republicans" here. The fact is, Democrats are nowhere near as bad as Republicans.
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@shmobiden6860 So. . . it's looking like none of the radical Republicans that Democrats supported in the primary have won their seats. Really the only pick-ups the Republicans got were in areas where they rigged the maps in their favor during the last gerrymandering period. So I guess the lesson is, "if you can't beat'em, cheat'em."
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Unfortunately, that's the reality that the Republicans have created. When the Republican party is declaring from candidate to candidate that if elected they will rig elections and ignore the outcome of elections that don't go their way, they can't be considered a viable option. If we want to go back to a true two party system, the Republicans need to eject the election deniers and election riggers from their party, but that doesn't seem likely.
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Unfortunately, Republicans do not care. All they care about is power.
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He is, but unfortunately Republicans refuse to unite under anyone but themselves.
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Yes, sadly the Republicans have strayed too far from this country to be trusted with power. That needs to change. They need to expel the corruption from their party, root to branch, so that we can return to a functional two-party system. Unfortunately, they seem to have no interest in doing so.
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