Comments by "" (@timogul) on "KMPH FOX26 NEWS" channel.

Well that's why they're suing them, to stop their evil.
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You're thinking about red states. This is a blue state we're talking about here.
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Nah, the Bible says God won't do that anymore.
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People who treat children as property do not deserve to have children.
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Obeying parents is not the main concern. Doing the right thing is. If a parent is not doing the right thing, then a child has no good reason to obey them. "Disrespect for parents" is not the cause of crime. It's not even in the top five.
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It depends. If they know that their parents are abusive, they might hide their gender while at home, but still choose to express it in safer environments. It is sad that parents might force a child to do this, but unfortunately not unusual.
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this would make sense, if there wouldn't parents out there who would abuse their children if they found out that they were transgender. What matters is not the feeling so the parents, it's the wellbeing of the children. Until we live in a world where parents can be trusted to treat their children humanely, things like this are necessary to protect those children.
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@scotwells7573 No, but they can change their gender expression to better fit whichever gender they actually are, which is the point here.
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While I agree that Republicans should never be allowed near kids, it's difficult to enforce for various reasons. You have the right idea though.
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I'm sure that if a teacher suspects that a parent will abuse their children for bad grades, and yet cannot call CPS on them, they would still be careful about how they discuss that child at parent/teacher conferences. The whole point of those conferences is to help the child to do a better job in school, it is not about telling a parent everything.
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@MrDude667 That's my point. The mandate is bad, and it's a good thing that CA is fighting to remove that mandate.
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@GemstonePhilosophy They have a duty of care to their students. If they feel a student is beating beaten at home, do they not have any responsibility to do anything about that? What matters most is the best interests of the children.
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@GemstonePhilosophy You're drifting back into your nonsense misconceptions about how gender works. Suffice it to say that you're wrong, and that it is unhealthy for children to be beholden to the irrational viewpoints of people who can't even properly do their research into the subject. And again, a teacher assuming that a parent might abuse their child, and handling that parent under that assumption, is not a "lack of due process." That would only apply if they were to take criminal proceedings against them. It seems you understand the constitution even less than you understand gender.
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@GemstonePhilosophy How so? I think I addressed your point clearly. Parent/teachers conferences do not exist for the benefit of the parent, they exist only to support the student, and teachers have no obligations at parent/teacher conferences other than to let the parents know things that might benefit the student. If a teacher believes that sharing certain information would cause harm to the student, then it is best for them to not share that information with the parents. That applies to ANY information that might cause the parents to bully their child, whether that be "bad grades" or "gender identity."
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@GemstonePhilosophy It's not a "laser focus," it's an acknowledgement that the child exists, and is who they are. If the child is expressing a gender or sexual identity in a way that is significant enough that the school board would require the teacher to tell the parents about it, then sure;y it is also important each that the teacher should have discretion as to whether that is wise. It's the school board that decided that it was important that teachers MUST tell the parents, so if anyone has a "laser focus" in the matter, it would be them.
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Yup, can't trust a school district that does not protect trans kids.
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Well, that's exactly WHY it is a bad idea to require teachers to tell their parents. Thanks for providing the excellent example!
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@jht3fougifh393 It has nothing to do with "believing an ideology," it's about acting in the best interests of the children. Some parents "have the ideology" that it's ok to marry their children off at 9 or less. That does not mean that we should just shrug and say "well, it's their kids, they own them." Also, just a point of fact, being trans is not a mental health issue, it's just a state of being. It's not in the DSM. Their are some conditions in the DSM related to trans people, but only if they are facing serious distress as a consequence of it, which is only ever made worse by parents that do not support them.
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@edwardmitchellrealty4327 That may be your belief, but it is irrelevant, because it is not true. If you want to guide your own life by that belief, then that is your business, but you have no right to impose that onto anyone else. It's also VERY important for you to recognize that the increased risk of self harm does NOT and has NEVER come from a child accepting their trans identity, it comes from them being conflicted about it and feeling rejected because of it. If a child is trans, and you try to bully them into being "normal" instead, that will NEVER reduce their risk of self harm, it only makes it much, much higher. A trans child who has even one supportive parent is 40% less likely to harm themselves. And yes, gender dysphoria is a condition in the DSM, but not all trans people have gender dysphoria. The "dysphoria" aspect is that they are troubled by their trans identity, that it is causing them stress. If they reach a point of acceptance of their identity and are happy with who they are, then they no longer have gender dysphoria, even if they remain trans. What "changed" was more research into the topic leading to better understanding of it. At one point, medical science thought that leeches were good treatments, that does not mean you can point to outdated medical guides and go "see! They get it!"
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So you are advocating CPS remove trans children from transphobic parents and put them into foster care? I don't know about that, it may be for the best, but I think there would be a lot of pushback to it. I think that this is a reasonable middleground, allow the children to stay with their parents, but do not increase the risk to them by letting them know their child is trans until the child leaves their house as an adult and/or chooses to tell them.
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CA is suing those trying to do "government control" to make them stop.
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@jht3fougifh393 Exactly. It's a parent;s responsibility to raise their kids in a healthy environment, it is not a parent's right to raise their children in an unhealthy way if that's what the parent would prefer. The rights are for the child, not for the parent. So if a parent is unwilling or unable to raise their child in a healthy way, then it is the responsibility of the rest of society to take what steps are necessary to protect that child.
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It really depends on what the secret is about. I assume in the case of the person you're talking about, the thing that he wanted kept secret was something illegal. That has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
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@chrisgriffith9252 But the important thing to keep in mind is that not all parents DO have the best interests of their children in mind, and in some cases what the parents think is in their children's best interests, they are wrong about. So the ultimate arbiter of what is right or wrong for a child should never be "whatever their parent wants." IF there is a situation in which what the parent wants would be harmful to the child, it is the responsibility of the society around them to protect that child from their parent's intentions. That is the entire point here, the school district's rules required that parents be involved, whether that was in the child's interest or not. Without that rule, which is the goal of the lawsuit, teachers would have the discretion to avoid involving the parents if they determined that it would not be in the child's interest. Keep in mind that if the child wanted the parent to know, then there is nothing preventing them from telling their parent, but nothing should force the teacher to tell the parent if they do not believe that is for the best. As for larger societal implications, if a parent is wrong, if a parent is cruel, if a parent is even just misguided, then bullying the child into listening to them no matter what does not lead to a better society. At best it would only lead to an authoritarian society, at worst it leads them to reject ALL forms of authority, since they have been told "even though this person was in the wrong, you MUST listen to them anyway," and that is a patently stupid idea that only a stupid child would accept without question. Parents need to EARN their child's respect, not demand it. Now as for your deflection, no, your views on trangender children are bigoted nonsense, and an excellent example of the reason why these teachers and their freedom to act outside of the parent's wishes is absolutely necessary to protect children.
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@chrisgriffith9252 Oh, no, I'm no Republican groomer. I oppose Republican groomers.
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@chrisgriffith9252 Sure, but so too are bad teachers. If you think about it, a lot of parents don't even want to be parents, they just ended up in a situation where they had a kid, whereas teachers actually went to school specifically to be capable of teaching children, so odds are, they are much more invested in doing a good job of it. Parents that harm their children certainly are the exception, but they do exist, and that is why teachers need the flexibility to handle each parent as they come. If a teacher believes that a parent is mature enough to discuss their trans child in a responsible manner, then I'm sure that teacher would not hesitate to tell the parent, because getting the parent on board would help the child immensely. But if the teacher believes that telling the parent would result in that parent bullying the child into submission, then it would be irresponsible of them to tell that parent, wouldn't it? That's the point of this suit.
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@chrisgriffith9252 No adult ever "encourages" a child to be trans. Either the child is trans or not, you can't change whether they are or not. All you can do is support their decision or bully them out of it, and what we want is adults in their lives, ideally, their parents, to be supportive, as that leads to the best overall outcomes. If the parents are not likely to be supportive, then it would be harmful to the child to involve them. NOBODY is encouraging any form of "mutilations."
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@ScottCleve33 That's not true, actually. It's a bogey-man story being spread among parents of trans teens. There are no teachers out there trying to "turn perfectly ordinary kids," that is not a thing. Teachers are not perfect, and even more parents are imperfect, which is why it's important to handle things on a case by case basis, rather than a blanket rule that parents must be informed.
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Well of course they can do whatever they like after turning 18, but this is about their quality of life too that point. The rate of self harm among trans youth is much higher than the average, and providing them with proper support can massively increase their quality of life and reduce the risks of self harm. While in an ideal world, it would be parents that provide this necessary support, we do not live in an ideal world, and there are parents out there who would cause harm to their own children if they knew that they were trans. In these cases, it is the responsible thing to do to not inform those parents, which is why teachers need the discretion to make that choice.
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@40daydreamer77 That's not how gender works, but that misconception that gender is somehow linked to chromosomes (when actually, those are only relate dot biological sex), seems to be fairly common among those who don't understand trans people. This is an excellent example of why a teacher could potentially harm a student by telling their parent about their gender identity.
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@pallen49 I don't think you're right about that, the Republicans typically oppose supporting trans kids.
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@Mark-no1vb Yes, that is the topic of this video. Trangender kids.
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@brutishfossil5022 I think you missed the point then. No, the ones suing are fighting against the evil rule.
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@brutishfossil5022 Again, what is most important is the well-being of the child, and if informing the parent would likely lead to harm to the child, then teachers need to have the discretion to avoid telling them. You know as well as I that not all parents are good people. There is no "morality check" on child birth.
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