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Comments by "H. de Jong" (@h.dejong2531) on "Apollo 11 Press Conference" video.
Apollo 11 was not the "first attempt". Before Apollo 11, we had: 8 Pioneer missions, all of which failed, 9 Ranger missions, 7 of which failed. 7 Surveyor missions, 2 of which failed. 5 Lunar Orbiter missions, all successful. 12 Gemini missions, which tested essential concepts like EVA and rendezvous. ~22 Apollo unmanned test launches. Apollo 7-10, which tested every aspect of the moon landing except for the final approach and landing. The only reason we have not been back since 1972 is money. Manned lunar missions were unaffordable in NASA's post-1972 budget.
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In 2010, when Pettit gave that interview, he was right. NASA did not have a moon-capable spacecraft in production. However, moon landing deniers always claim this must mean the Apollo landings were faked. That conclusion is not supported by facts.
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@narajuna It's not a matter of "no technology". From 1972 to 2017, there was no money for manned moon landings, so no spacecraft were built for manned moon landings. These are facts. What you have is an overactive imagination.
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The evidence proves you wrong: the Apollo landings are real.
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@bluesky6985 We know the Apollo landings were not faked. Those videos show they were in 1/6 g gravity. Kubrick could not fake this: in 2001: A Space Odyssey, the moonwalks are in 1 g, and the difference is clearly visible. Even today, there is no method to convincingly fake 1/6 g here on Earth. In recent years, lunar orbiters from India and China have taken photos of the Apollo landing sites, with enough detail that you can see the foot tracks left by the astronauts.
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In reality, NASA has never told us a lie. We have abundant evidence that proves the Apollo landings are real.
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@narajuna Sibrel has been proven to lie over and over again. His word is worthless.
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No, Google's AI does not do that. It found some structures in one Apollo photo that are also seen in some faked photos. It turns out, the AI was triggered by compression artefacts in the low-res copy photos they used. The actual evidence shows that the Apollo photos are real.
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@narajuna Bart Sibrel's lies have long been uncovered. In a Funny Thing he makes many false claims. For instance, the footage he claims is "newly discovered behind-the-scenes out-takes" was actually freely available from NASA to anyone who asked for it. It was public record. That footage also does not show what Bart claims it does. The footage clearly shows a view of the entire planet, and not a small section viewed through a cutout as Bart claims. So the only awards Bart has earned are the Pinocchio award for telling blatant lies, and the black eye he got from Buzz Aldrin.
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@narajuna Yes, use your brain. Examine the evidence. You will find that the evidence is clear-cut: there is no doubt that the moon landings are real. As I've shown, Apollo 11 only did very few things that had never been done before. As Apollo 12 and 13 showed, the missions were far from perfect. NASA took risks in trying to get to the moon before the Russians, but they succeeded through proper planning and preparation.
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They didn't have the technology in 1960. Then they put 450,000 people to work for a decade, to invent, design and build everything they needed to get to the moon. And they were successful. After 6 landings on the moon, the Apollo program ended. The production lines were dismantled. Some people call that "we lost the technology". That is a misleading phrase: we did not lose the knowledge, just the production line. From that moment on, any new lunar mission would have to start by building a new production line. We have all of the information we need to do that, but such projects cost money: tens of billions. And after Apollo, the appetite was never there to spend that much money.
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@narajuna Nope. In 50 years, nobody has presented any actual evidence that the moon landings were faked. Worse for you, when we examine e.g. the videos from the Apollo missions, we can measure the movement of falling objects in those videos. They all fall at 1.6 m/s2, which is impossible to reproduce here on Earth: here, objects fall at 9.8 m/s2. So we have definitive proof those videos were made on the moon. In recent years, lunar orbiters from 3 different countries have photographed the Apollo landing sites, and confirmed that they look exactly as shown in the Apollo data.
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There's a ton of evidence from multiple independent sources that confirms the Apollo landings are real. There's no coverup, no lie, other than the nonsense spread by moon landing deniers.
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@dennyrose3689 'nasa' in Hebrew means 'to lift up'. To deceive is 'nasha'. That sh is one letter in Hebrew, distinct from *s*. In all the years since NASA's inception, nobody has presented any evidence of any deception by NASA.
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@narajuna It's the moon landing denier claims that always end up being debunked.
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No, NASA does not claim that. And it's easy to confirm that the technology is not lost. Tons of data are sitting in public archives.
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The actual data show that the van Allen belts are safe for humans to travel through. That data consists of radiation measurements that were gathered by 6 satellite missions from 1958 to 1962, in a project led by James van Allen. By 1962, those missions had given us enough data to create a map of the radiation levels. That data has since been confirmed by more measurements. We've sent hundreds of spacecraft through the van Allen belts (every geostationary satellite, 200 interplanetary spacecraft and lunar missions, 9 manned Apollo missions and Gemini 11).
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We have abundant evidence that the Apollo landings are real. Every claim NASA has made has been confirmed by third parties, including their enemies in the Space Race: the USSR. They did not "destroy the technology" in any meaningful sense. All of the Apollo data is available in public archives, we could rebuild a Saturn V today if we wanted to. None of the moon rocks have been lost. 382 kg of lunar rock samples remain available today, and are studied by geologists all over the world. So, every claim you've made is based on lies.
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@narajuna Dave McKeegan did a video recently where he analyzes in detail how Sibrel lied. The very footage Sibrel uses shows they were looking at the full Earth from 150,000 km, proving they were on their way to the moon. It's another nail in the moon landing denier coffin, and a very satisfying one.
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@narajuna So, you concede I'm right and your argument has no merit.
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The audience knew to look at the evidence, and the evidence is clear: the Apollo landings are real.
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Anyone who believes the moon landings were fake, despite there being no evidence of fakery, and a ton of evidence that proves the moon landings are real, is seriously mentally ill, and should seek help immediately.
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We have abundant evidence that shows the Apollo landings are real, and no evidence that they were faked.
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It's pretty easy to confirm that they did go. You've been duped by moon landing deniers who made false claims about this press conference, just as they lied about everything else.
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@narajuna Transatlantic ships and airplanes did not benefit from a national emergency program like Apollo. The Apollo program consumed up to 5% of the US federal budget. That meant a huge workforce could be hired to solve every problem in parallel, instead of slowly developing everything in series. The Apollo program really began in 1961: Mercury and Gemini were necessary stepping stones to Apollo, as were the Ranger, Surveyor and Lunar Orbiter missions. By 1969, the work was not completed. Improvements to the rocket and spacecraft were still underway, to enable the J-missions Apollo 15-17. The last Apollo lunar mission was in 1972. So yeah, Apollo took slightly over a decade.
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