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That's typical for narcissists. That's just how they roll
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Though, not surprising-- they're narcissists
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Was that really your take away from that? wow
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@helia_. If they refuse to respect that the women don't wish to be referred to a cis, he has no ground to stand on, from which to insist his preferences be respected
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@nerd5 Why would someone who believes they're a woman wish to have the distinction drawn? That's Odd
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@daizeshawellon7364 No, it means you categorize the life of the unborn in the womb as disposable
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Who are you to judge, if they're ok with their relationship? There's no disrespect by using neutral and correct pronouns
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*He/himself
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@MarshallllWalker As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those dudes weren't. Now you know... Cope and seethe if you must
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The preference to exercise self-control over wearing one's emotions on one's sleeve at all times, is a concept lost on the intellectually disenfranchised who are whinging about men's higher rates, while failing to consider that women attempt it more often. Is that indicative of women being even more nuts than the men, less competent than men, or both? Men, tend to use lethal means of force, so tend to succeed more often.
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Choosing privacy isn't always 'suffering in silence'
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@daizeshawellon7364 People who care about children don't go around advocating for their termination, in the name of convenience. I'm not under the impression that there's a middle ground place for a meeting of the minds between those who value life and those-- like you who don't and categorize it as disposable
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The fact that those buying into this incoherent narrative are conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament (neither of which is gender exclusive hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) w/ gender is insane to me
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You believe his wife would disagree?
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No one took away the choice not to risk pregnancy
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Consider stoicism.
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He said A dude is a dude is a dude, and that doesn't change with a costume change, makeup, or surgery
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The thing is, men use lethal means of force, however; Women attempt it more-- so is that an indicator that they're more screwed up? You just gotta connect the dots 😏
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@officialballisticfox8111 What's respectable about that exactly?
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@mshoney9301 No they aren't. Gender refers to the sex observed at birth and the social aspects of being male or female. The 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female-- and those men aren't it
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The entire ideological narrative is incoherent
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@HootyASMR That isn't much of a refutation. You can pretend that trans women aren't men, but you're just in denial
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@kefisher7218 Society isn't obligated to rearrange itself to accommodate you. It's your challenge to integrate into society. The world doesn't owe you, and to operate as though it does is arrogant and thoroughly unjustifiable
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@hooliganlexx Yes, genius. I'm saying, if women don't want to risk being pregnant, they can avoid it by planning ahead-- Yes. Believe it or not, my wife and I planned to have 1 kid, and did. He's now grown in his 30's and doing well.
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@badussywar8938 That clause prevents the state from establishing the church, and you seem to fail to realize that this isn't that
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Do you believe that your understanding of the science involved in explaining reproduction and specifically the reproduction and fertilization process is true and correct? There you go
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@4tk37 Where psychosis and ignorance collide, clarity is seldom found. Women cannot become men and vice versa
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If they're ok with their friendship, who are you to judge?
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If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? It's incoherent -- or that only the individual themselves can determine their gender identity-- if it's a social construct, how does that work?? Again, It's incoherent If it were true, that gender is a social construct, fluid, and malleable and not biological-- why the need to transition biologically, or play dress up, and change their physical appearance? Again, incoherent They're already, who they are to themselves, and the proclivity to alter their biology, suggests that gender is NOT separate from biology. Why the desire to change if gender is merely a social construct? Again, it's incoherent No, It's XX, XY, Birth defect or evidence that a psych evaluation and treatment be considered, and btw-- the exceptions to the rules do not invalidate the rules. They validate them, hence being the exceptions
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@giovincomaz2175 Determining 'personhood' is not a matter for scientists. The legal definition of personhood describes a corporate fiction, and it's jurisdiction to do commerce-- not a living human
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Having a plastic surgeon change your appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek, doesn't actually make you a Klingon. Same is true regarding gender transition surgery. Still, XX or XY
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@missprettyschannel It's not a valid point AT All
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If they're talking to you, why would they? They would use your name. You don't use pronouns when talking with someone. You use them when talking about someone-- to someone else
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@Natslocker There's no such thing as trans women. That's just another word you use to describe confused men, who cosplay and LARP portraying the stereotype of a caricature of a female. There are only males and females, which is why using the cis prefix is entirely nonsensical. Now you know why
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@Replyingtoclowns People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and prior. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules, and it has nothing to do with gender.
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You didn't hear them or comprehend the explanation, so the explanation warranted repeating. That's confusing to you?
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@MarshallllWalker Says the guy who's name is dannyblewballs. Grow up
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@БайГаньо-м8р There is no such thing as trans women. That's just another term used to describe confused men who LAPR and cosplay, portraying the stereotype of a caricature of a female. There are only males and females, which is why using the 'cis' prefix is entirely ridiculous. Now you know why. YOU cope
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* He, fails to realize that the 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being female.
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@faiesies No, I'm not forgetting anything. Quit conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive) with gender. They're not synonymous. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those dudes weren't. A woman isn't a costume men can put on and take off, and they aren't a social construct, or a feeling. A woman is an adult, human, female
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The ideology insists that men can be women too, so why shouldn't they define the roles as they see fit too?
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@mshoney9301 A woman is an adult, human, female, and those dudes aren't that and never will be-- Cope Harder
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@redacted5035 There's no hatred involved in recognizing that he isn't that which you claim. It's just being observant. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid.
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wow... think deeper thoughts
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@faiesies If someone's identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality, and participate in their cosplay-- then THAT identity is not valid.
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@mshoney9301 Not much of a refutation. Yes, words have meanings and you seem to have difficulty with those meanings. You seem to be inappropriately conflating the variety of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive -- hence butch females, tomboys and effeminate males) with gender, as though they're synonymous, and they are not.
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@rainydays6675 The way conception occurs isn't a secret. Women know what they're risking, when they CHOOSE to engage in the one and only act which causes their unwanted dilemmas. No one is forcing them to do that-- so they have no one to blame but themselves. Self-accountability to those who disagree-- is like garlic, and sunlight to a vampire
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@lkm630y79 You sure are doing a lot of mental gymnastics to ignore the fact that the child which is in the womb is there because the mother facilitated herself becoming pregnant, when choosing to risk an unwanted pregnancy, by engaging in the one and only act which causes her avoidable dilemma. It is a living, developing human-- unlike a bacteria, so you fail to justify terminating the life of the innocent.
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@Doodlebopjunior There's nothing phobic with recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim to be. It just makes them observant of objective reality. He can't have it both ways and insist on others using his preferred pronoun (Conflicting with objective reality) while actively using the cis terminology that was being objected to. Hypocrisy thy name is Blossom. Respect is earned and it's reserved for that which is respectable.
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@helia_. Woman= An adult, human, female
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@DFC3770 I know there's a difference, that's why I pointed it out-- since you did not make any distinction
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There's nothing phobic about recognizing that you're not that which you claim to be-- It merely makes one observant, for recognizing that you're FOS
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It literally ends the life of an innocent, and that's not being ignored. Is the resulting child's life somehow less valuable, because one or both or their parents are bad? I don't think so
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@cathyreggiardo8150 Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@chaya7103 Aqua-ma'am Lia Thomas won the women's NCAA Division 1 women's swimming championship and a LOT of women are rather upset by men pretending to be women-- screwing up women's sports in the name of fairness.
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@celetial3287 Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders -- who don't live in reality about there being two genders. XX, XY, Birth Defect, That's it! MANY are inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) with 'gender'. There are clearly males and females with various biological abnormalities, infertility, post menopausal, anomalies and surgeries, etc.-- still male or female, respectively-- and none are representative of a new sex/gender that invalidates the binary. You can neuter your male dog, make him wear makeup and a dress, and it doesn't make him a female dog. Just sayin... 2. Intersex isn't another gender in the binary. Why, because there is no newly discovered benefit or attribute elevating the human design and are often infertile, but always only represent the 2 sexes in the binary. Also, none are w/ the ability to reproduce offspring by themselves. It's a silly argument to make. Would you argue that people born with one arm and leg invalidate the norm of people having 2 arms and 2 legs? fyi-- It does not You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek and prescribe hormones etc... and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon, and those who think it does are delusional.
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Recognizing that in reality, someone is not the sex they identify as is merely being observant
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@MegaVega2007 Well, it shouldn't surprise you that people who would inappropriately appropriate womanhood would also inappropriately use terminology and twist it to fit their narrative.
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@Bryan-gw6bn Where psychosis and ignorance collide, clarity is seldom found. Women cannot become men and vice versa and those who are confused about that fact don't surprise me that they come to conclusions that are entirely baseless and incoherent.
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If you can't accept yourself for what you actually are, I refuse to accept you for what you actually aren't
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@sirliom They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@hadamerryweather577 And you find that individual to be a credible source of knowledge and wisdom because???????????????????
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@faiesies A phobia is an irrational fear. There's no fear involved in recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim. That's just being observant of objective reality.
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@shaving_ryans_privates_4408 No, lacking the self-control, or the willingness to exercise it-- to regulate your reaction despite your emotions, is what weakness looks like
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@RealLadyG He's a self-centered narcissists. Make no mistake, they demand that you accept them and respect their way of life, hate you for yours and are seeking to destroy it.
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@fable_enthusiast Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Gender and Personality-- They haven't learned the difference. There's only one kind of woman, and they are all born females, so... using the cis prefix is totally redundant and unnecessary. The entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh There are males and females. That's it! Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct; She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals specifically humans. Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1. The body and brain develop & grow together -> One simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2. Hating a part of their body so much that they opt to cut it off, despite it functioning properly-- is a mental illness.
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Seems to me, that the socially awkward ones have difficulty deciphering the differences between fact and fiction and suffer anxiety when having to face selecting the appropriate restrooms.
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@razyice Why? Respect is earned, and is reserved for that which is actually respectable. A dude is a dude is a dude. They're LARPing at BEST
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How is recognizing that someone is not the sex which they claim to be, in a debate-- disrespectful??
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Half the panel are women
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@SmokestalDude420 They insist that trans women are women-- making their choice to use the cis prefix entirely redundant and extremely odd.
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@Erik-fn7kj They are objective, not subjective. Expecting the world should deny reality and recognize you as you perceive yourself is in and of itself narcissistic and delusional
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In other words men v women
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@antaraanikapiya I think the same can be said for men, so what's the point?
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@T Williams They couldn't accept themselves so had to resorted to extreme measures to transform their appearance to be like that which they can never be-- Men, and now they want to be accepted for their disguise
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Don't discount stoicism
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@mork4971 If they don't have a problem with their friendship, who are you to judge? It's not a sign of disrespect to observe that they are not that which they claim to be, in reality.
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What rights?
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@ishfail One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@jeffreyyoungblood7438 Wait... They said gender is fluid and disconnected from biology, so how then, is there male privilege? It's incoherent
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Show me someone who values life and advocates for the ability to terminate life, and I'll show you a hypocrite
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@Certifiedslow Tell me, why should a male, who "needs help with their mental health" be granted access to female's private spaces like dressing rooms, locker rooms, sports teams, restrooms and prisons?
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@lokalemadderfakker_nl Yes... Yes, it is odd. The whole point of transitioning is because they believe they're something they're not, and can never be. It amounts to an elaborate cosplay episode, otherwise. They're still the same sex and gender that they were prior to altering their appearance.
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@flashstar1234 "It''s usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@marsargoxmiso1695 I'm not a woman, and I know that a woman is an adult, human, female-- and trans women aren't that-- They're men. It's not complicated.
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@blompglomp A woman is an adult, female, human. Don't talk to me about people understanding, when that basic concept confuses so many
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@EA-de7df Correct. The terms masculinity and femininity refer to traits or characteristics typically associated with being 'male' or 'female'-- which are fixed and permanent, respectively.
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@IAmMana9 *He 😉😏
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@st4rbirdie *He -- Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@Erik-fn7kj You seem triggered, so much so that you continue to make the same ignorant comments, as if your point has any relevance. You've established only your own ignorance and you've refuted nothing whatsoever. One of the features of intelligence is to be able to take new information which challenges your understanding and assimilate it-- to course correct yourself; however, you seem unable to do that... which is the absence of intelligence. You're dismissed for being entirely irrelevant
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@becky14 The child isn't any less valuable, in the case of an assault. Being pro choice is advocating in favor of a mother's decision to terminate her own child in the womb, in the name of convenience. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions in the other 99% of cases, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one of a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences? A N Y O N E??? 🦗🦗🦗 Innocent baby's shouldn't be terminated because adults can't act responsibly
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@JubulusPrime We see them for what they are, not as they wish to be perceived-- contrary to objective reality.
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I'll try to break it down for you... Life is valuable, not disposable, and advocating in favor of terminating children is devoid of virtue, honor, and morality. Understanding "consequence" is a matter of comprehending Cause and Effect. Women who choose to risk themselves getting pregnant-- when choosing to facilitate it, by indulging the only act which causes their totally avoidable dilemma have no one to blame but themselves. It isn't as if they don't know they're risking pregnancy. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to something more than one of a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences? Innocent baby's shouldn't be terminated because adults can't act responsibly
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100% pure unadulterated narcissism, on their part
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Factor in stoicism and realize that exercising self-control rather than wearing one's emotions on one's sleeve for all to see is perfectly acceptable
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@ocherome Yes, however; women attempt it more. Men use lethal means, and so tend to be more successful with their attempts, as opposed to a screaming for attention and getting attention over a failed attempt
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@EvelynElfgarden * His... Same as prior to altering his appearance, as he is after
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@ABagOfPotatoes I think they are ok with their relationship, so who are you to judge it?
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How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one driven like a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences? Innocent baby's shouldn't be terminated because adults can't act responsibly
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@Lebronwski Exactly... Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is respectable. Friends tell each other the truth.
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@MarshallllWalker I hope you get the help you need to feel less insecure, when people recognize that you're a male not a female
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If they don't have a problem with their friendship, who are you to judge? Friends tell each other the truth
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@CyllidCastle Men tend to work out their frustrations with physical activity, and don't tend to sit around and process emotions the way females tend to. Perhaps you should factor that into your analysis
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@Azulakayes *He
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@Ian_175 LOL-- No, that's incorrect.
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@arianabdolahy8276 You don't use pronouns when speaking to people. You use them when speaking about people to others. Do you really not get that?
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Having a personal preference isn''t in conflict with his indifference to how people choose to live, and wishing them well regardless of their choice doesn't seem to be a problem. What's the controversy?
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@brujosam Calling those men something else, doesn't make them something else. They're still men, regardless of their attire or claims to the contrary. The 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female.
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Yet, Of all types of violent crimes, intimidation is the most common among both women and men. The majority of victims are male: 1.6 percent of men against 1.1 percent of women. In addition, more men (0.9 percent) than women (0.5 percent) fall victim to assault.
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@arianabdolahy8276 You can be a friend, have empathy regarding your friend's belief that they can fly off the rooftop of a building and not encouraging that act IS being a friend. You don't affirm the delusions of the mentally impaired as though their beliefs are based in reality, and think that's an act of friendship do you?
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@chloexu1158 The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Cutting off your pecker doesn't make you a woman. It's just makes you a dude who cut off his damned pecker Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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@guinnmyahslaysstaymad Well, I know what it means, and I used it as intended. Just remember, when you think things are against you-- it's probably You, and the world doesn't owe you acceptance. If You want to integrate into society-- then remember that it's YOU, who needs to adapt. To insist that society must play along with your counter-culture position-- makes you seem arrogant, narcissistic, self-entitled and ridiculous. You're not the center of the universe and the world isn't going to reorganize itself to accommodate your subjective feelings, contrary to objective reality. You need to develop better coping mechanisms to deal with adversity, because not everyone is going to like you, or be accommodating.
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@elizbethlennox6550 If someone rests the entire value of their existence based on their appearance, how is that not entirely pathetic and shallow?
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Do you believe his wife would disagree, regarding her privilege to be married to her husband?
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@London.Bridgez The numbers are so minuscule that your argument isn't a mountain it isn't even a mole hill. The child is still innocent if one or both parents are not-- and the death penalty for being innocent is hardly reasonable
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@entropy7999 To ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where as a feminist you'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are now-- women.
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@kiarachilombo9172 They fail to consider that the 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female
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@hellohoneyfernishere7301 Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is actually respectable. Those men aren't women. Women aren't a costume that those men can simply put on and take off, and they're not a feeling or a social construct. Women are adult, human, females and as it turns out-- the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female.
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@princedemetri *He... That dude is unhinged
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@dellsherman9785 The error is in conflating that gender and biology are disconnected. They aren't
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@rgxcx4414 He's a dude, and has no clue about what it means to be a woman
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@ABagOfPotatoes Their relationship is based on who they are to each other, is it not? The unsolicited opinions of those who would judge them, are entirely irrelevant. I think it's mostly those people who are busy-bodies and have low self-esteem, who are hyper focused on the validation from others, on their subjective view of themselves-- and that's pitiful, imo. It's vanity, narcissism, and arrogance rolled up into one basket case of an individual, who acts like the world needs to subjugate itself because their opinion insists the 'because they said so' standard applies and they get triggered when they're reminded that they're just not that important
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@Natslocker It matters to your side of the isle, as it is you and yours who requires the participation of everyone in society to play along with your cosplay and LARPing, using your preferred pronouns etc... Too bad, so sad. The world owes you nothing. Cope harder
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@IIIISai What human rights are the trans people denied access? It doesn't exist
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The point is... Personality traits and the variability in temperament are not gender exclusive (hence effeminate males, butch females, and tom boys), so calling that gender is an error
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@meganyates1070 "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@alphacharm Gaslight harder. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@Certifiedslow Gender refers to the sex assigned/observed at birth, and the social aspect of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent.
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@killerbunny7627 Terminating the life of the innocent doesn't erase the trauma of a rape, and instead creates another innocent victim.
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@charlee_xox1562 There's no such thing as trans women. That's just another word used to describe confused men, who cosplay and LARP-- portraying the stereotype of a caricature of a female. There are only males and females, which is why using the cis prefix is entirely nonsensical.
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@TorbieGinger No, women are adult, female, humans-- not merely a subjective concept. Quit conflating personality traits and temperament with gender
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@entropy7999 The comments are there when I'm logged in, and not visible when I'm not so some coward is shadow banning the comments, telling me I'm right on target, so don't talk to me about bad manners or bad faith
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The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@onlyahoe4u I find nothing respectable about them
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@Doodlebopjunior Why wouldn't you? She's actually a female. I discern reality from fantasy, and I recognize that they're not trans anything. They're the exact same sex & gender that they were prior to altering their appearance, as thy are after they do. Pronouns are used when speaking about someone to another, not when speaking directly to someone. When directly communicating, I use people's names.
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@EvelynElfgarden How do you figure? He's the same sex/gender prior to altering his appearance, and changing his attire, as he is after
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@aidsensemen5950 One of the commenters here in the comment section named Anthony Limon, described their observation succinctly, as follows: "All I can say 14 mins in is that the trans people won't let the conservative men speak. They keep cutting them off, and the conservative men either finish their point and then listen, or simply listen and stop what they're saying. Seems a bit unfair that one side can say much more than the other side. And you see the trans people having no issue stepping all over the ideas of the conservative men. but you can see the conservative men walking on eggshells."
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@frijolespepepapa9464 You trying to use the rare case of a birth defect, to superimpose on the vast majority of gender dysphoria cases-- is what it appears you're trying to do and you're reaching
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@entropy7999 No doubt. That's the nature of the suppression of speech. People don't get to see/hear the other side's responses
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How does that work exactly? "Hey, 'She'-- do you want to play some basketball?" or "Hey, 'Her' do you want to play some basket ball?" That doesn't make any sense. No, it does not make any sense
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So many people mistake self-control, and choosing not to wear one's emotions on their sleeves for all to see at all times as a weakness they paint as suffering in silence. Amazing
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When you portray yourself as something you aren't, that's appropriation
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@elenawilliams32 That dude is unhinged from reality.
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@GlockSling If their identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality and participate in their cosplay and LARPing as though it were real, then that identity isn't valid at all.
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@donut_box3553 Perhaps they're merely an acquaintance... I don't know. Either way, You don't get to choose the one's that others use, when speaking about you to someone else. Free lesson to the grammatically challenged regarding pronouns and how they're utilized: 1st person pronouns are grouped into 5 categories: Subject pronouns 1st person "I", Object pronouns 1st person "Me", possessive adjectives 1st person "My", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Mine", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Myself" 2nd person: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourself" 3rd person (Male): Subject pronouns 3rd person "He", Object pronouns 3rd person "Him", possessive adjectives 3rd person "His", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "His", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Himself" 3rd person (Female): Subject pronouns 3rd person "She", Object pronouns 3rd person "Her", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Her", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Hers", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Herself" 3rd Thing: Subject pronouns 3rd thing "It", Object pronouns 3rd thing "It", possessive adjectives 3rd thing "Its", Possessive pronouns 3rd thing "Not Used", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd thing "Itself" 1st person plural: Subject pronouns "We", Object pronouns 1st person "Us", possessive adjectives 1st person "Our", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Ours", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Ourselves" 2nd person plural: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourselves" 3rd person and (thing) plural: Subject pronouns "They", Object pronouns "Them", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Their", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Theirs", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Themselves". Now stop embarrassing yourself.
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Have you always had an impulse control deficit?
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@Certifiedslow No, men are adult human males, and women are adult human females. I defined gender above for you already.
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@brujosam The 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female, and *he's not that. Cope Harder
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@TorbieGinger Referring to a male as she/her is grammatically incorrect, and it is actually You, who are misgendering him
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Not unusual for people with mental and emotional disorders
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@ianwallace7704 Not even close. Pay attention-- The sound you're hearing is that of men and women everywhere rejecting your incoherent ideology.
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@ionabab7274 Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can choose to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, don't?
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@emiliocabrera3894 No, it's because he is obnoxious and rude
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@katherinemedina2104 I'm retired, and that isn't much of a refutation. You really should aim higher and up your game
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@haleski.gaming Not buying it. Personality traits like masculinity, femininity, agreeableness, assertiveness, passivity etc... are not gender specific or gender exclusive-- and are not therefore synonymous with 'gender'
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@haleski.gaming I've been maintaining the same point of view. Nothing in my comments are inconsistent with that narrative or with the understanding of the narrative. Yes, delusional people are capable of all sorts of delusional claims, none of which are valid. You can put a neutered dog in a dress, and he's still going to be a male dog... Just sayin Their feelings are irrelevant. If he 'Feels' like a girl that doesn't make it so. He quite literally has ZERO frame of reference to comprehend what it is to identify as the opposite sex. Pure imagination only Renaming personality traits 'gender' is invalid, as they are not synonymous nor gender specific, nor gender exclusive
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@Maksie0 Evidence?
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No one is saying you can't express yourself as you wish. You can identify as a Klingon if you choose-- BUT, that doesn't mean that others will perceive you as you perceive yourself. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do.
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@73748 There is no such thing as a life free from adversity and that doesn't justify terminating the innocent
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@manniefresh3425 "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@TorbieGinger Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Gender and personality are not synonymous. Learn the differences
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In the case of women choosing to facilitate their own risk of pregnancy-- there is no one else to blame for their unwanted pregnancy-- but them, and nobody forced them to do that. Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can "choose" to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, don't?
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@amberfirexx9 They're not trans ANYTHING. Still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after
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@clumsy_zebra_97 That narrative is bogus
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@derekrequiem4359 I have no dog in this fight. You do. You, as the minority fringe among the rest of the human population want ME, and the rest of the world, to go along with your narrative and use your subjective pronouns in defiance of reality etc... Well, you fail to persuade, so you need to do much better. A male cannot become a female and a female cannot become a male. FYI-- a woman is an adult human female. You can neuter a dog and put him in a dress, but make no mistake he's still a male dog, regardless of the surgery and elaborate disguise-- and regardless of how the dog may perceive things, that doesn't alter the fact that he's still a male dog. Similarly, the same is true regarding the gender narrative. Their subjective feelings have no bearing on the objective fact that they are not the sex which they claim to be.
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Nah... Just observant women recognizing that the men were not that which they presented as
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@aubreetanner9543 Your side is always presuming the motivation of those who challenge their narrative, is negative. That's just intellectually disingenuous and weak. Debates being held all the time, with people who defend and promote ideas that they do not necessarily agree with or care about-- prove your assertion wrong. You've failed to answer some rather direct questions, which expose the incoherence of the narrative that gender is fluid, while insisting that a girl trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity, or that there's a gender pay gap for example, while failing to be able to articulate the definition of a woman
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@ieatlostsoulz Here's the point: Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are inappropriately confusing and conflating gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous and they are not, while simultaneously insisting that biological sex and gender are disconnected-- while failing to realize that a subjective identity doesn't alter anyone's biological reality. Lost souls
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@luvingcleo There is no middle ground. There is truth and there is untruth, mistruth and deception. Men cannot become women and vice versa.
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@jeffreyyoungblood7438 Not me... I know that, "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@MM-km5zf Where psychosis and ignorance collide, clarity is seldom found. Women cannot become men and vice versa and those who are confused about that fact don't surprise me that they come to conclusions that are entirely baseless and incoherent.
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@redeye9762 One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@onlyahoe4u I disagree. The truth matters. How is it that the 'worst' person in the world who's espousing lies and deception is worthy of respect? Looks like you're reaching to me.
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@bottleofwhite_liquid5399 No worries. Though... they aren't trans anything. Same sex/gender prior to surgery and altering their appearance and chemistry as they are after.
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@jordanhayes4187 No, half the panel are women who've merely altered their appearance to be more like that which they can never be-- Men
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Those preferred Pronouns you're whining about aren't used when speaking directly to someone. They're used when speaking about someone to someone else.
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@ezekielmatta They're arguing that he isn't that which he claims to be. That's just being observant of objective reality. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. They're LARPing, at BEST Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@insektas No, Gender and sex are intrinsically linked. They are not disconnected. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. You're conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) as though they're synonymous with gender-- and they are not. We're suppose to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe? Why?? I maintain that gender is not a social construct, or separate from biology. Gender roles are the construct, and so too is the transgender narrative-- a mere social construct, based in subjective lunacy, not reality. Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior traits. I mean... C'mon now. It's ludicrous
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Raise your own kids and leave the kids of others alone. They're none of your business
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Who's in charge of preventing unwanted pregnancy? What's preventing them?
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@celestejacobs7386 Yet, here you are offering your opinion as though sharing it is of value. Life is worth living. Make of it what you will, and don't blame others for your adversity.
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@Vearra019 There's no such thing as a life free from adversity
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@Maksie0 Well, that's a sad testimony about your comprehension skills, because it's been explained to you a LOT by many different people.
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Only when speaking for yourself -- and then your choices are limited to I, Me, My-- unless you're talking about yourself in the 3rd person, which is pretty weird. You should get a refund from your English grammar teachers. You don't get to choose the one's that others use, when speaking about you to someone else. 1st person pronouns are grouped into 5 categories: Subject pronouns 1st person "I", Object pronouns 1st person "Me", possessive adjectives 1st person "My", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Mine", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Myself" 2nd person: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourself" 3rd person (Male): Subject pronouns 3rd person "He", Object pronouns 3rd person "Him", possessive adjectives 3rd person "His", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "His", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Himself" 3rd person (Female): Subject pronouns 3rd person "She", Object pronouns 3rd person "Her", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Her", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Hers", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Herself" 3rd Thing: Subject pronouns 3rd thing "It", Object pronouns 3rd thing "It", possessive adjectives 3rd thing "Its", Possessive pronouns 3rd thing "Not Used", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd thing "Itself" 1st person plural: Subject pronouns "We", Object pronouns 1st person "Us", possessive adjectives 1st person "Our", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Ours", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Ourselves" 2nd person plural: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourselves" 3rd person and (thing) plural: Subject pronouns "They", Object pronouns "Them", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Their", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Theirs", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Themselves". Now stop embarrassing yourself.
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@entropy7999 Were my questions too tough for you? Why did you flee? Seems quite disingenuous of you
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@entropy7999 I dismissed them, as it appeared you were ignoring my comments and questions, and having failed to refute them w/ your comments-- they were irrelevant. To ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where as a feminist you'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are now women.
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@OfficiallyTrust Issues Where's the compromise to be found between objective reality vs subjective imagination, founded in fantasy and rooted in fiction? You don't use pronouns when conversing with people directly. You only would use them when talking about someone to another. I use people's names when talking to someone directly. Don't you?
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@ieatcatsyumyum It's, 'you literally get taught pronouns in school', but clearly you didn't do well in grammar school. Pronouns aren't used when communicating in the 1st person, genius.
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The problem you have with your virtue signaling is-- the total absence of any actual virtue
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@lokalemadderfakker_nl I would argue that gender is addressing the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. You could have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, prescribe hormones, a fashion consultant and hair and makeup specialists, and it wouldn't make you an actual Klingon
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@jaybones2811 I understand the narrative. I just recognize it as incoherent. They suffer high anxiety when facing having to select the appropriate restroom, while whinging about a white, male--dominated patriarchy, at the root of a gender pay gap, while insisting that gender is fluid. Ya, it's ridiculous The ridiculous notion that the world needs to accept those who can't accept themselves-- as they are, but rather must accept them as their delusional sense of self would dictate-- is ludicrous. You can chop off your dog's balls, but he's still a male dog. You can shove a chicken feather in your butt, and you're still not a chicken, no matter how much you think you identify as one-- as if you had a frame of reference in the first place-- and you do not. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect or evidence that a psych evaluation and treatment commence immediately-- That's It. Period, FULL Stop Alone in the shower alone, they know they're a guy Found damaged and unconscious in a wreck, the EMT's know he's a guy Dead on a slab, the Coroner knows he's a guy Archaeologists finding his bones and DNA, Knows he's a guy. He's a guy pretending to be a girl. Don't be a science denier... Just sayin
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Booga Ooga The ridiculous notion that the world needs to accept those who can't accept themselves-- as they are, but rather must accept them as their delusional sense of self would dictate-- is ludicrous. You can chop off your dog's balls, but he's still a male dog. You can shove a chicken feather in your butt, and you're still not a chicken, no matter how much you think you identify as one-- as if you had a frame of reference in the first place-- and you do not. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect or evidence that a psych evaluation and treatment commence immediately-- That's It. Period, FULL Stop Alone in the shower alone, they know they're a guy Found damaged and unconscious in a wreck, the EMT's know he's a guy Dead on a slab, the Coroner knows he's a guy Archaeologists finding his bones and DNA, Knows he's a guy. He's a guy pretending to be a girl. Don't be a science denier... Just sayin
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@mango_46 They still are women. That state is fixed and permanent, and no amount of surgery changes that
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"It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people [like Blossom] who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@ishfail One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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You seem to prioritize form over content. My issue is discerning reality vs their subjective, delusional self-identity which mocks it-- by suggesting we need to affirm their self-perceived identities. The answer is No... Just No They aren't 'trans' anything whatsoever. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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@alexorr5772 Having a plastic surgeon change your appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek, doesn't actually make you a Klingon. Same is true regarding gender transition surgery. Still, XX or XY
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@jayb5667 Total psych case
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@joelcarmen6963 Feel free to refute them
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Humans aren't respected for just being humans. They're respected if they do respectable things OR Not
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@nellysplayhouse9520 That's the sound of men and women everywhere rejecting this woke madness. If you need confirmation, ask Budweiser, Target, and Disney
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@4tk37 Then, consider my comment affirmative
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@alexwilliams2276 Nonsense. They're arguing that he isn't that which he claims to be. That's just being observant of objective reality. Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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:face-blue-smiling:🤣 They're men, not women. Why should those men be granted access to women's private spaces like dressing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, sports teams and prisons?
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@Maksie0 And BECAUSE they chose to indulge what goes in their body (Which results in pregnancy)-- they got pregnant. It's not a mystery how pregnancy occurs.
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@jammaniamania4036 One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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What rights?
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Not unexpected, when dealing with people who have psych issues, and intellectual deficits. That dude is lost
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@joytotha No, reality is objective. Your feelings are subjective. Science deals with objective reality. How is it that those who deny objective reality aren't dissociative by definition?
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@gabriellaamaria4986 And surgery does nothing to alleviate the reality that people will recognize those who present as something they're not, because they're observant and live in an objective reality. If your identity requires that everyone in society affirm your sense of self, contrary to objective reality, and their participation in your LARP or cosplay is required to massage your feelings, then you better develop some better coping mechanisms to deal with the fact that the world doesn't owe you anything, and the vast majority of people reject the trans-activist ideological narrative, and that isn't going to change-- So-- considering that they're more accepted now than at any other time in history, yet continue to have a self-delete rate significantly higher than the general population-- the efficacy of a surgical approach doesn't appear to be the efficacious solution which curbs that... and moving forward with the notion that if only, everyone would just play along for their sake-- then I predict you're going to be severely disappointed. The world isn't going to reorganize itself for your benefit, and to suggest it ought to-- is the height of arrogance and self-entitlement. You better learn to cope much harder
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No, it isn't. Developmental sex disorders aren't evidence of another sex invalidating the binary of all mammalian species. Gender is not disconnected from biology. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There are people and they are males and females and there are segments of both which present with various birth defects, psych disorders, and some with both-- none of which are evidence of other genders invalidating the binary. It's XX (Female), XY (Male), and a variety of Birth defects/disorders within segments of each ... neither of which display sex organs other than that found in the binary. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@iamz_mbie NO... Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is actually respectable. Not all cultures are Equal,Compatible, nor Desirable... That's why sovereign nations have borders
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@thebarbie222 It's their insistence on policing the preferred pronouns others choose to use where the problems start
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No, you are not
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@varyolla435 Prove the shots work as advertised. Where is your data and peer-reviewed studies??? 🦗🦗🦗
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@ikadagio2445 Friends tell each other the truth, and expecting someone to deny the truth is not respectable.
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@clovis- Their 'feelings' create ZERO obligation for the rest of the world to participate in their delusions
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@colinw.7145 Where psychosis and ignorance collide, clarity is seldom found. The notion that women cannot become men and vice versa is lost on the intellectually bankrupt
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@TrepidHen If someone rests the entire value of their existence based on their appearance, how is that not pathetic and shallow?
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Not everyone is raised by groomers
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@dollface6376 Better that than them assaulting women in women's spaces. No one is saying you can't express yourself as you wish. You can identify as a Klingon if you choose-- BUT, that doesn't mean that others will perceive you as you perceive yourself. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do.
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@stellagyan6593 "Socialism, in general has a history of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it".-- T. Sowell
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@Random_Cassie You don't get to terminate people's lives because they're handicapped. C'mon 🙄
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@wren_1224 You're getting close to understanding the difference between a Democracy and a Constitutional Republic now.
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@mariec3733 No, you haven't. Here, let me help you. Woman: An adult, female, human. It really doesn't take dozens of words. Do you understand them? It doesn't seem like it. It seems like cause and affect, elude you and personal responsibility repels you. That's weird
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This entire comment section is filled with single damaged goods - women over 30, and activist trolls and confused teenagers who are Intellectually Stunted and Morally Bankrupt
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A W E S O M E ! ! !
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It illustrates "What" you are though
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Having a plastic surgeon change your appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek, doesn't actually make you a Klingon. Same is true regarding gender transition surgery. Still, XX or XY
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@L’Dino In the case where an assault results in a pregnancy (1% of cases), is the resulting child's life somehow less valuable? I don't think so She could choose to offer the child up for adoption. She doesn't have to keep the baby
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They're morally bankrupt, intellectually shallow half-wits, w/ mental issues trying to convince the world to deny objective reality, and embrace their delusions as reality. The answer is NO... just No Trans women are men with issues, pretending to be women without issues. Regardless of the facts, an irrational thought process lacks the capacity to come to intelligent, rational conclusions.
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Nah... Just observant women recognizing that the men were not that which they presented as
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Correct. They're women who are playing make believe, dress-up
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@jakekorando7187 The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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@fruitguzzi9122 The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or more physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@pianocat5955 No, having the opportunities taken away and given to dudes who call themselves trans women-- is an issue for women, not the "trans" people. The only people who say trans people are oppressed are trans people…
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No, it isn't. They're only mere caricatures of what they wished they were.
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The final say on whether or not women are willing to risk themselves getting pregnant, when facilitating it-- is why they have no one to blame but themselves for their avoidable self-inflicted dilemmas. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one driven like a mere base animal, fixated on her own self-gratification regardless of consequences?
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@Ehrenmensch Perfect! SO-- quit insisting that we indulge YOUR preferred pronouns, as though we're somehow obligated to deny objective reality because of your 'Feelings'
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@zweks The insistence on preferred pronouns etc... and screwing up women's sports, from those who are observant enough to recognize that they're not trans anything and are the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after-- suggests otherwise
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@RaidenKunii Having a lack of coping mechanisms to deal with reality, and the adversity one faces in life-- is a psych issue, that surgery doesn't alleviate-- which begs the questioning of affirmation-based treatment protocols, along with the ethics of those who do promote and perform those procedures. The world isn't going to rearrange itself because of someone's feelings of angst about not being perceived, as they perceive themselves. They better learn to cope with the fact that their feelings aren't the center of everyone's universe, and that the world owes them nothing whatsoever.
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Such as??
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Get a grip. Those who are not what they claim to be, are not entitled to be recognized as something they are not
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@celeste524 Choosing to grieve and process in private, is not the same as suffering in silence and the nuance seems to be lost on you. No worries
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@fernandoluis53 Don't leave out the activist trolls and confused teenagers
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@crisisdude7439 Well, where else would they process emotions, but in their head? Men tend to exercise and engage in physical activity's (MMA, Hiking, Sports, Weight training, have jobs which involve physical 'manual' labor, etc.) which are an outlet for that frustration-- repressing nothing. Men don't prioritize that which they get overly-emotional about, in the same way that women do. That's not a flaw. Consider that women attempt sewerslide more often than men do, though men tend to use lethal force, so succeed more often in their fewer attempts. Is that because men are more efficient or because women are less competent, and are often making an overly-emotional spectacle of herself, for attention because she's mentally unbalanced?
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Terminating the life of the resulting innocent child doesn't undo or fix a rape
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@jammaniamania4036 No, that doesn't make sense. I'm not a gender pretender. That dude is a mere caricature of that which he wishes he was, and will never be-- A woman
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They already have the same rights as everyone else. Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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Pronouns are objective, not subjective. You don't get to pick your own
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@markusbaker1161 According to a Swedish study, Long-term follow-up of transsexual persons undergoing sex reassignment surgery: cohort study in Sweden "Conclusions: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, sui***al behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."
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*He
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@entropy7999 I did, and you're trying to rename personality traits, "Gender" and that's wrong too.
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@Grinchillah I don't buy your nihilistic view of the world. Assigning the innocent the death penalty, in the name of convenience, seems sociopathic to me.
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@KenzLovesMovies A woman is an adult, human female That's a biological category which is fixed and permanent. Women are not a social construct
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@babymoose1616 Gender and sex are intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. Looks like a lot of people still haven't figured out that gender in not synonymous with personality traits and temperament yet. Like I said, If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is actually respectable. Pronouns aren't what you'd use, when communicating with someone directly in the 1st person. You'd really only use them when speaking about someone to another. When speaking directly to people, I tend to use their names, rather than refer to someone as something that they are not. Don't you?
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Reality check: You don't use pronouns to address someone when speaking directly to someone... You use them when speaking about someone-- to someone else
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@GlockSling Yes, really... It's not true that men can become women or vice versa.
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@sekhmetthe7845 Evidence of intellectual bankruptcy, on his part
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Not enough asylums or professionals with ethics
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That dude is as confused as it gets
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@jaybones2811 The delusional disconnect from objective reality permeating those who are dealing with gender confusion, doesn't alter reality-- and they fail to see how ridiculous it is for them to insist that people deny objective reality, and then play along with their delusional fantasy identity, as though it is based in truth, when it is not-- and the failure to recognize the audacity to insist it's "Ma'am" (when clearly it isn't) and that people accept them for who they are, when clearly they're putting on a costume to conceal who they actually are and promote an illusion based in delusion-- because they don't accept themselves-- as they actually are, in reality.
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Could it be that the reason is, they're required for a pregnancy to occur?
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Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Gender and Personality-- They haven't learned the difference. There's only one kind of woman, and they are all born females, so... using the cis prefix is totally redundant and unnecessary. The entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh There are males and females. That's it! Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct; She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals specifically humans. Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1. The body and brain develop & grow together -> One simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2. Hating a part of their body so much that they opt to cut it off, despite it functioning properly-- is a mental illness.
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These self-hating, misogynistic women, hate women so much-- they altered their appearance to be like men.
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No-- They're still the same sex they were born as, and their efforts to alter their appearance doesn't change that
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@oldthug8551 Then get your damned tubes tied, if you're going to risk the avoidable. You just want a free pass to indulge your promiscuity, free from the consequences.
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@skeasy5437 Feel free to pass it on
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@n.m8287 trans women are men. Why should those men be granted access into women's private spaces?
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@handletheseboltz That they certainly aren't packing the seats in the stands like in male sports, NEVER occurs to them when it comes to determining value
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sewer~rat It's a redundant term, totally unnecessary for describing women.
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@HelenaBlack80 That's because, for ex. in the black community 80% of families are single parent situations and the mother's have the custody
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@lemonssssssss4 They're FOS
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@tiqueen2047 Quit confusing personality with gender. They're not synonymous
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Facts trigger you? That doesn't seem rational or healthy. A woman is an adult, human, female and regardless of surgery or hormones-- that doesn't change. That state is permanently fixed
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So you're pro life except for in cases of assaults?
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Being wrong and outspoken isn't a great look
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There's no need to imagine what others are going through. The objective reality is that they are not that which they claim to be, and still-- they insist that we perceive them as they perceive themselves, and deny objective reality.
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That's a lot of words for not saying anything substantive at all. wow The problem with your virtue signaling is the lack of any actual virtue
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That's not correct
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@Maksie0 So? They're still women. You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, and it wouldn't actually make you a Klingon either-- regardless of whether you identified as a Klingon or not
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@significantpepper5274 Nonsense. They're inappropriately attempting to rename and recategorize the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys)-- Gender. Gender Dysphoria is an extremely rare disorder, and many argue that most trans people do not in fact suffer from gender dysphoria, rather most are merely unapologetically embracing their own counter-culture personas and perversions, and are being inappropriately grouped together under the gender dysphoria umbrella. The ideology is totally incoherent. On one hand, they say that gender is fluid, yet, insist that a girl, who says she's a boy trapped in a girl's body is in fact a boy and that her male identity is immutable. Both cannot be true
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Are you trying to prove your shoe size dwarfs your IQ w/ that intellectually bankrupt comment, or are you just an activist troll, or Both?
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@vingram100 The considerations and analysis of the intellectually bankrupt, in no way alters objective reality
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@Erik-fn7kj Like a hairy dude in a dress, screaming, "it's MA'AM" is classy and/or lady-like? Kick Rocks
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@hadamerryweather577 Then your comment was because??
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Hating yourself so much that you choose to alter your appearance to be something you're not is what appears to be the case
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@benjamincolbywilson5172 Instead, women should control their own body's and avoid the avoidable, rather than facilitate their own dilemmas, in the form of an unwanted pregnancy. There's no justification for terminating the innocent
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@Maksie0 Nope, Never will be
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@Maksie0 Being that all women are born female, how do you figure he should be referred to as she???
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@Maksie0 Ya, exposing their incoherent nonsense, for the nonsense that it is
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@the-birbo Men and women are different too. Those who transition know this, as they transition-- they aim to resemble one or the other, and if they don't know this-- they're intellectually vacant
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@timeisahumanconstruct9251 He is a male
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@mariec3733 No, it does not. Women are not forced to have unprotected sex, so if you want to chase pleasure, you have to bear responsibility for the possible outcomes. No innocent life should face termination because of the lack of responsibility among adults. The 'Pro'-choice you're in favor of maintaining-- is the ability to terminate the child in the womb, in the name of convenience and it's shameful. The morals and ethics of those who would declare the unborn to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are questionable-- at Best, and are those of narcissists and sociopaths.
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@rampagesmackssons508 Nope... It isn't society's job to accommodate them. It's for them to adapt and integrate into society. Besides, that won't alleviate the issues with scholarships, changing rooms, dressing rooms, locker rooms, showers, sports teams or prisons.
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@Milo-nr9kc Ah, when your feelings are easily hurt, just cope harder. The world doesn't give a crap about you or your feelings. It will be here long after you're gone
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The bigger picture: Having a plastic surgeon change your appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek, doesn't actually make you a Klingon. Same is true regarding gender transition surgery. Still, XX or XY
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@TheLegendOfRandy What prevents you from avoiding the avoidable?
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@trombonesarecool1 No, gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female respectively, and male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Gender is not disconnected from biology, it's intrinsically linked.
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@frijolespepepapa9464 A phobia is an irrational fear. Is that what you mean?
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@asprinjuice425 That was a definition, not an argument. Chemicals don't have fear, irrational or otherwise, but people do. What's the point you're inarticulately attempting to make?
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@anicon5892 Recognizing that someone isn't that which they're presenting as isn't hate-- it's just being observant of objective reality
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Please NEVER procreate
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Quit gaslighting. The argument isn't that you don't exist. It's that you are not that which you claim to be, and that you insist others perceive you as you perceive yourselves despite objective reality.
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@aideneifriehew If that were true, they wouldn't feel compelled to alter their appearance, in stark contrast to reality
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@aideneifriehew Changing into something 'other than' what you are, under the guise of accepting one's self being the rational is incoherent nonsense.
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Why? You can still avoid getting pregnant.
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It's seems that they can't truly accept themselves, but think and act as though others should respect them, and accept them for who and what they'd rather be, as opposed to who and what they really are, and that upsets them? Does that about sum it up?
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They're not trans anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after. There are people. They are male and female. There are segments of each which present with birth defects and psych disorders, neither of which invalidate the binary of all mammalian species. Developmental sex disorders are not separate sexes/genders. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspect of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) and are incorrectly attempting to use the term as a synonym for/with gender
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@jakobhovland04 Not uncommon among for the intellectually stunted, and psychologically impaired to exercise their ignorance with unrighteous indignation
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@Noonegiveafuckaboutyouropinion LOL!!! Nope... All men are born male with exactly ZERO exceptions
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@Maksie0 Being that the self termination stats are clear, of those who suffer these delusions-- it doesn't seem likely that your suggested scenario is likely at all
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@gudemeneely Weird. I identify my friends by name
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@coolbreeze6532 Yup!!! They're not "trans" anything. Still Human, Still Male or Female as they were when they were born, respectively -- just what amounts to an elaborate disguise in the gender binary
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I’m not delusional::::says the person who chooses to chop off their body parts, thinking it'll change their sex.
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Denying the validity of their claims, is not the same thing as invalidating them as a person. Get Real
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@riley3087 Quit conflating personality traits and temperament with gender. They're not synonymous
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He's not what he claims to be, and people are observant enough to realize it. That just makes them observant.
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@Erik-fn7kj Not when speaking about someone else
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It's XX, XY, Birth defect, Psych disorder... That's it
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Only for those who reside in fantasyland
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@rosalynlarry6533 They're not trans ANYTHING. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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@Maksie0 Dude, give it a rest. It's been explained to you several times by several different posters
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Biological women are the only kind. Trans people aren't 'trans' anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to altering their appearance and messing w/ their natural body chemistry, as they are after
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@conor.3875 They suffer from them when they risk it, and lose the bet. btw-- When, in society-- a criminal risks the consequences/getting caught, for committing a violent crime, theft, robbery, rape, etc... and gets caught in the act, or as they're about to commit their crime-- they lose that bet too. That's about as real as it gets buddy
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@conor.3875 I never said it was. I said, when they engage in sex they choose to risk the consequences of getting pregnant, knowing that birth control isn't 100%, when they do.
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@justsamoo3480 Considering the self-delete rates being as high as they are, even after transition-- it calls into question the efficacy and ethics of the affirmation-based treatment protocols, and those of the so-called medical and psych professionals who endorse and perform these procedures.
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@Erik-fn7kj Does it have nothing to do with anything?
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How about, No. The world doesn't revolve around their needs. They can establish their own sports organizations, if they choose. How about bringing back asylums for the mentally and emotionally disturbed
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@Alexis-ny5rd :face-blue-smiling::face-green-smiling: That's wrong, but If they were, the use of the trans prefix wouldn't be necessary and totally silly.
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@markusbaker1161 No, still men-- If what you said were true, they would not need to add the trans prefix... They'd just be called women-- but they're men
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Did you learn that on Sesame Street from Elmo and Big Bird? Take a biology class and realize that the gender narrative is inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament (None of which is gender exclusive hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. Male and Female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They are not interchangeable. You could have a surgeon alter your appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek and prescribe hormones etc... and it doesn't make one an actual Klingon, and if you think it does-- you're delusional. You can neuter your male dog and make him wear a dress and it doesn't make him female dog. Just sayin...
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Why do you have no consideration for women?
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Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They aren't trans anything. Still the same sex and gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after
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@Maksie0 Nature designed
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NOPE... The world doesn't owe you acceptance. If You want to integrate into society-- then remember that it's YOU, who needs to adapt. To insist that society must play along with your counter-culture position-- makes you seem arrogant, narcissistic, self-entitled and ridiculous. You're not the center of the universe and the world isn't going to reorganize itself to accommodate your subjective feelings, contrary to objective reality. You need to develop better coping mechanisms to deal with adversity, because not everyone is going to like you, or be accommodating.
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An adult, human, female
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@GlockSling Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is actually respectable. There is no disrespect involved in recognizing that someone is not that which they portray themselves. That's just being observant of objective reality. What are you going on about, regarding truth?? It's not true that men can become women or vice versa. Why are you pretending it is?
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@GlockSling You seem to be taking it personally that the majority of the world reject your narrative. Cope and seethe harder... Don't believe me. Ask Budweiser
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@lamari_posa No... Respect is earned and it's reserved for that which is actually respectable. If your identity relies on everyone in society denying objective reality, and requires that they all participate in your cosplay or LARPing, then your identity isn't valid. Simple as that
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@Tetus7 The truth matters
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@Findingsuitcase No, you are not
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Mestizos (90% of the Mexican population) are a mix of white Spanish and Native Blood
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@yasmineb272 The topic is women's unwanted pregnancies. You sure are doing a lot of mental gymnastics to ignore the fact that the child which is in the womb is there because the mother facilitated herself becoming pregnant, when choosing to risk an unwanted pregnancy, by engaging in the one and only act which causes her avoidable dilemma. It is a living, developing human-- unlike a bacteria, so you fail to justify terminating the life of the innocent. I'm under no delusion that there is a potential for a meeting of the minds, when it comes to philosophical issues about morality, such as issues like these-- which separate those who value life as something bigger than just an opportunity for self-gratification-- from those, who just don't. Women are not forced to have unprotected sex, so if you want to chase pleasure, you have to bear responsibility for the possible outcomes. No innocent life should face termination because of the lack of responsibility among adults.
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Life begins at conception. Dead things do not grow
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Not all things, nor all people are worthy of respect. Respect is reserved for that which is respectable, and it's earned
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@joeygubi2670 That fool is an activist troll. "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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Geography and history aren't your thing-- Obviously
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TOTAL Intellectual bankruptcy. There are males and females, and there are minority segments of each which present with birth defects and various mental illnesses/psych disorders. They aren't "trans" ANYTHING. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance and chemistry, as they are after.
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@Maksie0 I have no fear or hatred of people with mental disorders, so your use of the term transphobic is inappropriate. Are you unaware somehow that this video is about differing views, and that the comment section is the place to post comments and discuss them? You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and post daily-- What's wrong with you, that you're so triggered?
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I'm fairly certain Blossom didn't understand either, evidenced by the incoherent ideological woke babble
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That's called delusion
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@Ninalikescake Because-- #1. Women know that birth control-- with the exception of abstinence, doesn't always work and women know that. #2. They are the ones that risk getting pregnant, so when they don't take precautions-- and choose to indulge in risky behavior they can achieve the avoidable. #3. When consent to the risky behavior, which leads to them becoming pregnant-- It's clear that it's entirely avoidable, and that's ALL them. Regarding, "And why does a unborn child’s life matter more than a grown adult’s?" I never said it does. That's why, if/when the mother's life is in peril, the only reasonable exceptional decision to terminate the pregnancy is made. Hope that clarifies it for you
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@0fficialselena__90 It's why sex shouldn't be treated with such a cavalier and casual abandon. The consequences are severe. Don't want to get pregnant, don't indulge the risks with causal abandon, and know that if you risk it you're facilitating the avoidable
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@DestiniqueXo Why would someone who believes they're a woman wish to have the distinction drawn? That's Odd
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@pineapple2.041 Yes, for everyone. One's delusions alters no reality
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@Maksie0 No, they are not. They're Men w/ issues, pretending that they're women without issues
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@Random_Cassie I did. It didn't justify terminating the innocent
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There is nothing phobic about recognizing that they are not that which they claim to be. It merely makes one observant
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🤣That entirely wrong
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@amberfirexx9 Why are you pointing out that the other side is observant of the reality that dude-- is still a dude, after altering his appearance?
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So, only rich people should be able to have families? Your nihilism is rejected
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@mariec3733 That's the whole point, they deserve the opportunity to succeed in life, while you would deny them the opportunity
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@petemiller2920 The rate after transition is still nearly 10x's higher than the average, so that's not a shinning example of successful treatment.
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Babylon rising
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@Maksie0 The DSM5 disagrees with you
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Even if it were true, gender doesn't invalidate biology-- so why then should those men being referred to as 'trans women', be granted access to women's private spaces? You have NO justifiable reason
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Better them, than the women having their privacy invaded, when they use theirs
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Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male and female. It is not disconnected from biology. The entire comment section is filled with trans-activists who ALL have failed to engage in a productive dialogue, when asked direct questions or when presented with information which questions their analysis and conclusions about the claims they make, which seems to directly contradict your assertions
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@johndrennan518 They still are
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@Maksie0 Not in reality they aren't... There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Try again??
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It's an anti-woman ideology. Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men who will claim they're women-- and they don't even see it coming
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@jumbomrmeaner3016 Yup... In general men tend to be partial to solving problems and women in general, tend to focus on talking about how they ''feel' about problems
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@andreas1892 No dear, acceptance is reserved for that which is, acceptable. Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, Respectable, Acceptable, nor Desirable That's why Sovereign nations have borders
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Psych issues at play
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Weird how all of a sudden, Everyone knows what a woman is
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Those who do handle "bringing up" aka raising their children vs those who terminate the lives of their children are in fact "Better" people
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@Birdiee93x Well, being that r@pe and incest only account for 1% of cases, some perspective is required to address the talking point. On that issue, I would point out that terminating that pregnancy doesn't undo the trauma caused by an attacker. I would also point out that terminating the life of an innocent child doesn't put aside a woman's trauma; It adds to it, an additional victim and the additional potential trauma of the ab0rti0n, experienced by women in significant numbers. Also, the value of the innocent resulting child in the womb, isn't diminished because one or both of their parents were bad. I'm under no delusion that there is a potential for a meeting of the minds, when it comes to philosophical issues about morality, such as issues like these-- which separate those who value life as something bigger than just an opportunity for self-gratification-- from those, who just don't. Women are not forced to have unprotected sex, so if you want to chase pleasure, you have to bear responsibility for the possible outcomes. No innocent life should face termination because of the lack of responsibility among adults. The 'Pro'-choice you're in favor of maintaining-- is the ability to terminate the child in the womb, in the name of convenience and it's shameful. The morals and ethics of those who would declare the unborn to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are questionable-- at Best, and are those of narcissists and sociopaths.
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If that were true, they'd have no need to change their biology to accommodate their psych disorder
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Developmental sex disorders aren't evidence of another sex invalidating the binary of all mammalian species. Gender is not disconnected from biology. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There are people and they are males and females and there are segments of both which present with various birth defects, psych disorders, and some with both-- none of which are evidence of other genders invalidating the binary. It's XX (Female), XY (Male), and a variety of Birth defects/disorders within segments of each ... neither of which display sex organs other than that found in the binary. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. Cope Harder
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They're self-centered narcissists who care only for themselves
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@mariec3733 Have you actually figured out what the definition of a woman is yet?
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Yup... dead things don't grow
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@DrScott-su4eu A phobia is an extreme, 'irrational' fear. You're correct, being observant of the fact that people are not that which they portray themselves isn't fear based. It's just being observant of objective reality
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Who are you to judge their friendship, if they're ok with it?
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Because for all of human history a small amount of men ruled over all other men and women, and the vast majority were hardly advantaged because of it. How is that even a serious question?
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@e.k.m5557 No, it's more like saying-- if you don't want to wreck your car, don't intentionally drive it into a wall, then act like a victim who's surprised the car got wrecked.
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@Maksie0 What's the supposed swindle?
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@ox4df5h6g5ff Ask yours why you're so triggered over someone else recognizing and calling you out -- that you aren't what you claim
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He isn't trans ANYTHING. He is the same sex/gender now after altering his appearance, as he was prior to altering his appearance. There is nothing phobic about recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim to be. It just makes one observant.
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@Miss_Witch13 Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is respectable. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@Eclipse210 Of course not... Only human females are girls, and the ones who develop into adulthood are called women. There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female-- without exception. Now you know better. A woman isn't a social construct, a feeling, preference or a costume.
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They did exactly that here. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@Krotas_DeityofConflicts Science has determined how the process of fertilization works and that at the moment of conception an new unique human life, with it's own DNA is formed.
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@fruitguzzi9122 Respect is reserved for that which is respectable, and it's earned. Recognizing that someone isn't the sex they portray themselves as, isn't something I find worthy of respect. If someone had an eating disorder like anorexia, and I encouraged them to continue dieting, that wouldn't be respecting them either.
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@aidsensemen5950 I appreciate you confiding your massive reading comprehension deficit, and as a result being given due consideration and lack of credibility to your future opinions will be noted.
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Bathrooms are based on sex not feelings or subjective identities
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There's nothing phobic about recognizing that they are not that which they claim. That just makes people, observant of objective reality
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@darcymr353 Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can "choose" to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, don't?
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One side is happy that babies will live. The other is sad that babies will live. And that is all you need to know about the ideological divide in America.
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There's no hate in recognizing that someone is not that which they claim to be. It's just being observant.
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@digitallyabsurd6446 Newborns can't survive on their own, outside the womb either. They need total care for the 1st several years of life. Forced pregnancy is a r@pe. Women who facilitate their own unwanted pregnancy by choosing to engage in the one and only act which causes the baby to end up in the womb in the 1st place, weren't forced to do so and have no one but themselves to blame. Make better choices
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So, to what do you attribute the increase in psych disorders?
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Women (ALL of them) are born female. A woman isn't a feeling, social construct or a costume. What one "goes through" or their 'feelings' don't alter objective reality in the slightest bit.
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@krasmasov6852 How so? The terms masculinity and femininity refer to traits or characteristics 'typically' associated with being male or female, respectively-- Males and females still remain males and females throughout history, regardless of the wide variability of personality traits and temperament each are capable of displaying, within the various cultures throughout history and their particular cultural norms.
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Oh, being gay addresses a sexual preference, and being a conservative is indicative of a political preference. Hope that helps clarify things
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@vitomir0 Search 'detranstiton' on youtube
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They aren't trans ANYTHING. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance and body chemistry-- as they are after. You can alter your appearance by having your face tattooed w/ a woman's face, and it doesn't change your sex/gender either
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@krosleypayton814 No. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance and their body chemistry, as they are after... Still male or female, respectively. IF you were correct, they wouldn't need to transition at all or bother with making the distinction trans or cis
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@krosleypayton814 No you aren't. There's nothing phobic about recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim to be. It just makes them observant Have a nice day
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@ChrishBlake Thanks. I maintain that gender is not a social construct, or separate from biology. Gender roles are the construct.
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@Lydia ZERO evidence to support that
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There's no opposition to the procedure, when a woman's life is in imminent peril. In EVERY 'Other' case, they should be banned
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As often is w/ people who have mental problems
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@akakezzy6152 That fool is an activist troll
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@samthenotwinchester5518 No problem. Reality is awesome
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@pineapple2.041 You seem to be under the impression that the 'Because you said so' standard affects reality. It does not
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@Maksie0 The US is a Constitutional Republic, Not a Democracy. Learn the Difference
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@Erik-fn7kj Because their ideology is incoherent
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How does advocating in favor of terminating the life of the innocent in the womb, not show anything but a casual notion that life is disposable? It seems you don't have any moral ground to stand on from which to judge
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Cis, is a term used in chemistry to describe the position of certain molecules, one from another-- and has nothing to do with gender. There's only one kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the use of 'Cis' totally irrelevant and useless.
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VERY confused indeed. It's not that their existence is unjustified. It's that they are not that which they claim to identify as, and having their appearances surgically altered, wearing disguises and imagining they're men doesn't make it so.
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There's no such thing as 'Trans'. You're exactly the same sex/gender prior to altering your appearance, as you are after. LARPing, doesn't count
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@Maksie0 Groomer much?
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@aideneifriehew When they are challenged on their beliefs that skirts, dresses, heels, makeup, hormones, surgery and literally the color pink doesn't make them women-- they tend to get unhinged even further. Those are women in drag, regardless of the semantic nonsense you're peddling. The narrative is inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament, neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys, with gender.
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No, she embraced the idea that life is precious for herself
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@markusbaker1161 You don't matter, and you fail to persuade. They're men, and their existence isn't the focal point of contention. Of course they exist. They're just not that which they present themselves as, but If you want to pretend they are, nothing is stopping you
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trans woman is a word that describes men with issues-- pretending that they're women without issues
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@TheLegendOfRandy It looked to me, like she was pointing out that the race being relevant to the woman who had a problem with white men having a say, was abhorrent because as you pointed out-- that is "coming across as supremely racist". Your capacity for misdirected, and fatally flawed analysis leading you to intellectually bankrupt conclusions is amazing. 🙄
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@yakult9618 Males and females have existed from the dawn of time. Your failure to comprehend that the variability in personality traits and temperament which aren't gender exclusive hence butch females, effeminate males and tom boys doesn't indicate a separate gender is affecting your ability to reach intelligent conclusions in a negative way
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No, it's because women fail to support women's support the way men support men's sports, and because men's sports have players performing at a higher level than the women's teams. It's not complicated.
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@celestejacobs7386 Whatever, Karen-- No, I'm not. I'm putting it in perspective. The role men play in pregnancy, is biological and the one which women facilitate
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@eveliinahannele Science isn't a consensus. It well-known how reproduction occurs and you can feel free to study the fertilization process more closely to help you understand the result of fertilization
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Looks like the "trans" activists are women haters
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LOL... No they are not, and they never will be. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after. They're LARPing
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@Maksie0 That's the sound of reality pointing out and rejecting your imaginary bull 💩 You better get used to it
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@williammiller6330 The salient point is, those men are in no way women and are in no way justified in being granted access into women's private spaces
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@Im_Julissa She says, while solving nothing whatsoever. Irony? The final say on whether or not women are willing to risk themselves getting pregnant, when facilitating it-- is why they have no one to blame but themselves for their avoidable self-inflicted dilemmas. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to be more than one driven by a mere base animal instinct, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences?
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They're narcissists
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@misslk If his goal was to make the statement to trigger people, it seems to have been a successful campaign, evidenced by the number of comments in the comment section, focusing on that precise thing. Just sayin...
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@Maksie0 Words have definitions. Get a clue One's preference has ZERO bearing on objective reality, and when the preference is in defiance of reality, that's fine, but when the insistence that the rest of the world ignore reality that they have a problem. They can choose to identify as they wish, but it creates zero obligation to affirm their subjective sense of self. If a moron identifies as a genius, that doesn't make it so. Just sayin...
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@krasmasov6852 And words have meanings which are clearly defined.
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@krasmasov6852 Nope... Pure nonsense from start to finish. I don't require your validation or the validation from the trans-activist community-- AT ALL. They're requiring mine, and the answer is, No. You fail to persuade I already stated that personality traits and temperament aren't gender exclusive. How did you miss that?
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@Maksie0 That's wrong! They're dudes who wish they were women, so engage in cosplay and LARP to compensate
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@Ben-2606 Then you're dismissed for being less than useless, and I remain unrefuted
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Oh Stop It! No one in the history of the world has ever changed their sex. That condition is permanent. Mutilating yourself doesn't change your sex. Never has, nd never will
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@justyana488 That's not a refutation. That tells me you're an activist troll that's got no substance, trying to be edgy.
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The Rulers of those societies started them and the people had no say whatsoever
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@MrTriple3D Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are inappropriately confusing and conflating gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous and they are not, while simultaneously insisting that biological sex and gender are disconnected-- while failing to realize that a subjective identity doesn't alter anyone's biological reality. Lost souls
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@markusbaker1161 You and maksie have both made the claim that trans women are women and that TOTALLY wrong.
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@marsdavidson8307 It's not a sign of disrespect to identify that something is not as it seems, or that she is not what she claims to be. Pronouns are objective, not subjective... You don't get to choose the ones 'Others' choose, especially when the ones you'd choose are not based in objective reality
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@IIIISai Not as smart as some, smarter than others, but thank you
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And knowing that, when a woman 'chooses' to risk getting pregnant, it's ALL on her for CHOOSING to not avoid the avoidable
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They want society restructured around their self-perception. Their obsessive and unquenchable need for affirmation is unmatched ANYWHERE. Narcissism on over-load. The trans activists demand that everyone in society participate with them in the LARPing/ cosplay by abandoning everything known about fundamental physical reality for their feeling's sake. NO.... Just, No
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@entropy7999 Funny... Look at the comment thread that I started, directly below this one and you'll see. It's there
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@sashaboydcom Not much of a refutation, not a single direct response to any of my questions-- and the 'Because you said so' standard has been issued exactly ZERO credibility. Look, I have no dog in this fight. You do. You, as the minority fringe among the rest of the human population want ME, and the rest of the world, to go along with your narrative and use your subjective pronouns in defiance of reality etc... Well, you fail to persuade, so you need to do much better. A male cannot become a female and a female cannot become a male. FYI-- a woman is an adult human female. You can neuter a dog and put him in a dress, but make no mistake he's still a male dog, regardless of the surgery and elaborate disguise-- and regardless of how the dog may perceive things, that doesn't alter the fact that he's still a male dog. Similarly, the same is true regarding the gender dysphoria situation. Their subjective feelings have no bearing on the objective fact that they are not the sex which they claim to be.
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They already have the same rights as everyone else. Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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When it doesn't, how is that not a psych dissociative disorder?
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Cope Harder
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One terminates the life of a baby, the other-- not so much. Comprehending the nuance is vital for a clear understanding
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@GrahamChapman Then it's even stranger that they insist on altering their appearance, and the dissociative state that they're clearly in doesn't alter objective reality
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@joytotha Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then the identity is not valid.
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fyi-- Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people-- who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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That's the sound of people everywhere, rejecting the incoherent ideological narrative as pure madness
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@TheALfever If you're talking about trans, you use trans... If not, you're talking about actual women, or men-- respectively, the cis prefix is totally redundant
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@Grinchillah We need personal accountability and self-control in the world
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@conor.3875 That's why when a woman chooses to engage in the activity which causes pregnancy, they're taking a Known risk
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@derekrequiem4359 I should have worded that better, and made it more clear that I was addressing 'the incoherent trans-activist narrative'
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@mariec3733 Restrooms are based on biology, not subjective claims of personal identity. Why should those men have access to women's private spaces?
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@Maksie0 * He-- wasn't born female-- so how do you figure, since ALL women are born female?
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Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity?
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@KenzLovesMovies A woman is an adult, human female-- not a social construct, and those men who you refer to as trans women aren't that and never will be, they're men. Cope Harder
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@Maksie0 Get some therapy
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Irrelevant. The fact being disputed is that they are women too, and they aren't
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@teabagged4654 They're not trans anything. They're exactly the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. There are people. They are male or female, respectively. That biological status is fixed and permanent. There are segments of each which present with a host of various physical and psych disorders, some with both and multiples of each. Those aren't other genders. Recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim to be, isn't indicative of hate... It's just being observant of objective reality.
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@Stanbily Intersex is a birth defect, where the individual has organs of both sexes male & female (Often non-functional) and they do not present another sex in the binary, and for that reason-- they don't invalidate the binary at all. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), with gender
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You give him that much credit for intellectual acuity? I wouldn't hold my breath
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@LouisDiCorzo The presumption of fear seems odd. Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders -- who don't live in reality about there being two genders. XX, XY, Birth Defect, That's it! MANY are inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) with 'gender'. There are clearly males and females with various biological abnormalities, infertility, post menopausal, anomalies and surgeries, etc.-- still male or female, respectively-- and none are representative of a new sex/gender that invalidates the binary. You can neuter your male dog, make him wear makeup and a dress, and it doesn't make him a female dog. Just sayin... 2. Intersex isn't another gender in the binary. Why, because there is no newly discovered benefit or attribute elevating the human design and are often infertile, but always only represent the 2 sexes in the binary. Also, none are w/ the ability to reproduce offspring by themselves. It's a silly argument to make. Would you argue that people born with one arm and leg invalidate the norm of people having 2 arms and 2 legs? fyi-- It does not You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek and prescribe hormones etc... and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon, and those who think it does are delusional.
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🤣 That's Hilariously Wrong
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An attempt to suggest there's another kind of woman other than those born females. It's intellectually vacant
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No, how you display your feelings and the sorts of feelings you choose to show are a nuance that clearly eludes many
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@HoloTWWOriginal Erik is like one of those pathological liars who do phone scams. ZERO integrity
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Intersex isn't another gender in the binary, it's a birth defect
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@gudboah4688 The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule, they prove the rule by being the exceptions. I accept that there are people. They are male and female, and segments of each present w/ various physical birth defects and various psych disorders, some with both. People like Blossom aren't trans anything. There merely caricatures of that which they wish they could be, and never will-- women
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@marcusweaver6766 You can try to be a Star Wars character too, it doesn't make you one
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Believe all women?? Really?? How is that Not a privilege?
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@krasmasov6852 It's evident in the comment section here, where you and others like you are not looking to have an honest conversation, and would rather troll, and argue-- rather than engage in a back and forth conversation. Those aren't who people tend to take seriously-- if you haven't noticed
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How? Look up the definition, that comment doesn't even come close
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Genders-- there are 2 male and female... That's it. Too many are incorrectly and inappropriately conflating personality with gender
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@markusbaker1161 Yes they are, and your insistence doesn't change that
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That dude is annoying because he's unhinged from reality, and is rude
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Yes, the truth hurts those who believe the lies
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Developmental sex disorders aren't evidence of another sex invalidating the binary of all mammalian species. Gender is not disconnected from biology. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There are people and they are males and females and there are segments of both which present with various birth defects, psych disorders, and some with both-- none of which are evidence of other genders invalidating the binary. It's XX (Female), XY (Male), and a variety of Birth defects/disorders within segments of each ... neither of which display sex organs other than that found in the binary. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. Cope Harder
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Yes
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@mariec3733 Native Americans continue to refer to themselves as Indians, especially those of older generations.
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@Erik-fn7kj That wasn't much of a refutation. Arguably, you don't know anything-- as you've established nothing whatsoever, and you've refuted even less.
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@indiasounds1335 No! Facts are inevitable
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@krasmasov6852 Nah... It just illustrates that they're not what they claim to be. It doesn't invalidate them as people
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@eveliinahannele You've adequately demonstrated that you've fumbled the intellectual football, and as a result-- your analytical compass is entirely absent, rendering your opinion null and void
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@Erik-fn7kj That's why you're dismissed as irrelevant
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Because you are responsible for your own pregnancy, you become an incubator for your own family/child
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@clovis- If gender is fluid, and not biological-- Why the need/desire/proclivity to play dress up, or more drastically use surgical alterations, etc.? Aren't they already identifying as what they are? Ya, doesn't make sense The narrative suggests that gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity. Both can't be true, showing the narrative is incoherent
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@maksimally Until you insist that I, and the rest of the world participate in your gender fantasies-- there's no problem. When you insist, I have to remind you that your identity isn't more important than anyone else's. I identify as someone who doesn't have to participate in the transgender fantasies of mentally confused or intellectually stunted people. The narrative suggests that gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity. Both can't be true, showing the narrative is incoherent
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@エイブリー-i5b How are they in the same community? Seems that gays aren't as confused about whether or not they're male or female. They embrace their perversions for what they are, and make no apologies for it.
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@haileytorres8320 A legitimate person with a fraudulent identity is still a valid person, but their fraudulent identity is not
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@krasmasov6852 No, Groomer troll-- None do, and the F2M transitioners are still women as well, which is the reason they don't have prostate exams. Don't be a science denier
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@Maksie0 Never will be a woman. He's the same as he ever was
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Just watching the gnashing of teeth in the comment section. HILARIOUS stuff
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@Maksie0 Being a groomer is creepy, weird and wrong
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@jbert423 The suicidality rates indicate that the sort of treatment you're advocating for, doesn't work well at all. Why do you think it's effective and how are you measuring that effectiveness?
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No, what amounts to female impersonators are not women AT ALL. A woman is an adult, human, female-- and they are not that, and never will be
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Gender is not a social construct. Gender roles are. Get it straight
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The echo chamber, comprised of the activist advocates and trolls which patrol here-- can't handle the diversity of thought which exposes them for what they are...
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@aweleoniah5985 Woopie dooo Still a dude
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They know it too.
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@thatoneclown4723 Quit conflating gender and personality
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That dude was obnoxious and incoherent. Cope harder
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@Erik-fn7kj From here it looks like they went to elaborate measures to appear like that which they can never be-- ie. Men
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Truth is not subjective, and friends tell each other the truth. If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? In other words: If a girl, trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (supposedly the reason for transitioning), How can gender be fluid and separate from biology? Answer: It can't
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The extremely high rate of self-deletion after transition doesn't show well, for the effectiveness of the current affirmation-based treatment protocols, and brings into question the ethics of the medical and psych "professionals" who profit from engaging in this practice
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Consider that too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender, as though they're synonymous and- they are not. Then, they inappropriately conflate gender with gender roles. Then, they argue that gender and sex are different, failing to recognize that subjective gender identity doesn't change their biology at all. Men cannot become women and women cannot become men. It's not complicated, but apparently they lack the ability to process any of that intelligently.
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@eatmycooter6866 Farmers raise hens (not roosters) for their eggs!!!! The farmers, the chickens and the roosters can tell the difference between the males and females-- what's your excuse for the confusion?
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@suga3774 The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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Bottom line-- men cannot become women. A woman is an adult, human, female, not a social construct. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman, and that's being born female. 'Trans' is the "social construct"-- being played out by men.
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@emmakaye8407 It's not an opinion. It's biological fact. Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in your near dystopian futures-- you'll end up oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim they're women.
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@emmakaye8407 Feel free to lie to yourself, and cling to your ignorance. You could go to a surgeon and alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek if you wish-- and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon-- and if you think it does-- you're delusional.
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@Astrum11 The relevant point is drag queens, cross dressers and trans women are all men
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They tend to raise their own children to be productive members of society and highly recommend that You do the same. They also Pay taxes so you can have welfare, donate to charity's which provide for children's benefit, volunteer for fostering, etc..... There is no such guarantee as a life free from adversity and challenges
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@eveliinahannele Regardless of the reasons people have sex-- it is nonetheless-- the method of procreation, and engaging in sex is assuming the risk of a pregnancy. It's really not complicated
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It's not just the bathrooms. It's also dressing rooms, locker rooms, sports teams and prisons
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So WEAK that you cowards shadow ban comments which expose the evil nature of your agenda
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@gabriellevitale4670 Adversity doesn't grant justification for taking a life. You are jumping through a lot of hoops to attempt to justify terminating the innocent in the womb, and you have failed. There is no justification
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@Random_Cassie The resulting children from an assault (1% of cases) are no less innocent than those of consent (the other 99% of cases)
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Men cannot become women and vice versa. -- Science
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Wars were started by the rulers of men, and those men who were ruled over-- had no say about it. How do you not factor that in?
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@markusbaker1161 You think you have to be a doctor to read the stats, and studies? Do you also think you have to be a veterinarian to tell the difference between a dog, a cat and a bird? Grow up
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sewer~rat Yes, it is. If you're talking about trans, you use trans... If not, you're talking about women, or men-- respectively
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Reality that women are all born female and all men are born male vs Delusional fantasy... There is no contest
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Well, they're not biological women. Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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None are mammalian species. Context matters
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If gender is merely a social construct, how is there a patriarchy?
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@markusbaker1161 You haven't been able to make any sense over having biological men being granted access into women's private spaces, despite insisting that sex and gender are separate. Why don't you respect women's rights?
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@Noonegiveafuckaboutyouropinion That's wrong. All men are born male, with zero excetions
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Blossom seems to have been trying to prove beyond any doubt that his IQ is dwarfed, by his shoe size
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Observing that those men are not what they claim to be isn't a matter of fear-- it's a matter of being observant of objective reality
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Drag is an adult form of burlesque entertainment, and doesn't belong around children.
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@annem4655 So many people mistake self-control, and choosing not to wear one's emotions on their sleeves for all to see at all times as a weakness, then they frame it as 'suffering in silence'. Amazing
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Expecting people with emotional and psych issues to have the capacity to reason at that level is illogical and unreasonable
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@alyr767 You're reaching...
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Transformers v transgenders would be fun too
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Nah, they just hold the woman responsible for and accountable for her own actions. There is no virtue, no honor, no dignity, and nothing righteous in advocating in favor of the death sentence for the innocent
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@celestejacobs7386 The morals and ethics of those who would declare the innocent to be disposable in the name of convenience, are those of narcissists and sociopaths. Where is the virtue? How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to be more than one driven like a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences?
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@andreas1892 Accepting murderers, thieves, and rapists for who and what they are, does seem to illustrate a problem for those who suggest that their crimes are acceptable, does it not? I accept that they're murderers, thieves, and rapists-- But make no mistake, that's not the same as pretending they're something else
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@coolbreeze6532 They're not "trans" anything. Still Human, Still Male or Female, as they were when they were born, respectively -- just now with what amounts to an elaborate disguise in the gender binary-- more akin to a drag queen, or cosplay with a dash of psych disorder.
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Women who facilitate their own unwanted pregnancy's by engaging in the only act which causes them are without excuse
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That actually made me laugh out loud
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How are they not still women, who've merely altered their appearance, in contrast to reality?
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Half the panel are very disturbed and confused women
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If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity?
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Sorry to break it to you, but you don't use pronouns for others when you're speaking to them. You use them when speaking about them, to others
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@mariec3733 Of course it takes 2, however; She's the gatekeeper of her own body, and the one who risks her body w/ an unwanted pregnancy. It occurs to me that she has an obligation to herself to avoid it, regardless of ANYONE else's thoughts on Her choosing to risk it or not. The guy may not have a problem w/her getting pregnant. My point is, the power to avoid the avoidable unwanted pregnancy of their own body's rests w/ women. fwiw-- Not all men are pro choice, and none are getting pregnant, or choosing FOR millions of women to continue to facilitate their risks, or choose terminate their own children, MANY-- more than once.
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@Maksie0 You say, while conflating science with science-fiction. You're not even as deep as a baby spoon
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@Maksie0 Define woman
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Because true beauty starts on the inside
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@whotfispolly3725 How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition? Nah... I'm gathering information about the replies of those who clearly fail to make their case, or refute anything, arguing only for sport, and pushing an agenda. I find the total lack of analytical capacity, or the ability to articulate a coherent direct response to ANY questions challenging their assertions fascinating, and illustrative of the disingenuous nature of those who are advocates. The problem with their virtue signaling, is the absence of any actual virtue.
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To the feminists who go along to get along with this trans-activist ideology... Best of luck in your near dystopian future, where you'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim they're now women too.
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Still not men. More like girls in drag
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@insektas Gender and gender roles are being inappropriately conflated as though they're synonymous and they are not. Take your time to process that. Like I said, You're conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) as though they're synonymous with gender-- and they are not. Happy people aren't self-terminating their existence. Trans people are, in numbers significantly higher than the normal number of cases, continuing to prove that they aren't happy, in general-- by terminating their existence.
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@Maksie0 No, they're men with a quirky fashion sense. Nothing more
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@markusbaker1161 They're dudes in a dress, nothing more
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You really need to do better. That's not even as deep as a baby spoon
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@_TeeVee_ The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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@queenofhearts7503 A woman is an adult, human female, and *he isn't that-- so, how do you figure?
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Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in your near dystopian future, you'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim that they're women-- and you don't even see it coming. smh
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@Maksie0 They're still women. They're not "trans" anything. Still Human, Still Male or Female as they were when they were born, respectively -- just what amounts to an elaborate disguise in the gender binary-- more akin to a drag queen. 2 genders... That all.
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@R-afaelarman Only 1%-3% of all abortion cases are health-risk related. 96.5% of all abortion cases are for economic reasons/convenience
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@mariec3733 It's a fact of life that engaging in sex-- risks pregnancy. You can whinge about it if you like-- but that doesn't change anything
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Because it takes men for women to conceive
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And you're not even doing that. You're, instead-- advocating for their termination. Think about THAT
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Correct
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@Maksie0 I've had enough of my comments shadow banned and deleted here to confirm it happens
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The final say on whether or not women are willing to risk themselves getting pregnant, when facilitating it-- is why they have no one to blame but themselves for their avoidable self-inflicted dilemmas. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences?
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@But...WhyTho The trans advocates insist that a trans woman is a woman, So, it's extremely odd that they would insist on the trans or cis prefix. A dude who's chopped off his pecker doesn't become a woman. He's a dude who's chopped off his damned pecker. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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@But...WhyTho You've failed to persuade or to articulate a refutation for what I wrote. People exist. They are male or female. There are segments of each which present with physical and psych disorders-- some with both, and their feelings about them don't invalidate the facts
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@riann7707 I use people's names. Why care, you ask... Because truth and language definitions matter and because guys pretending to be females are screwing up women's sports irritating a lot of women
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The trans issue is like forcing glove companies to create all gloves 6 fingered to accommodate the few people in the world who have more fingers.
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@ox4df5h6g5ff You sir have the ethics of a phone scammer and the communication skills of someone with a severe emotional and intellectual deficit. Calm down-- You appear to still be inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@vanthonvenus And, a woman is an adult, female, human
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Quit pretending that the marginal case establishes the default for all other cases
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@markusbaker1161 Fiction is what the trans-narrative's ideology spouts
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Why do I have to go along with this cosplay as if it was real??? They're men
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Nope only 2. intersex isn't another gender in the binary. It's a birth defect which presents with development of organs within the binary, only not so much functional
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@lanisehoward8397 Intersex is a birth defect, where the individual has organs of both sexes male & female (Often non-functional) and they do not present another sex in the binary, and for that reason-- they don't invalidate the binary at all. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), with gender
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@Goldenskittlee There is no such thing as a life free from adversity. I'll try to break it down for you... Life is valuable, not disposable, and advocating in favor of terminating children is devoid of virtue, honor, and morality. Understanding "consequence" is a matter of comprehending Cause and Effect. Women who choose to risk themselves getting pregnant-- when choosing to facilitate it, by indulging the only act which causes their totally avoidable dilemma have no one to blame but themselves. It isn't as if they don't know they're risking pregnancy. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to something more than one of a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences? Innocent baby's shouldn't be terminated because adults can't act responsibly 1
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Those girls are lost
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@niscent_ These people can't accept themselves, so go through elaborate lengths to alter their appearance, but demand that everyone accept them as their disguise, rather than for who and what they really are. Uh huh
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@Maksie0 Because the 'Standard' doesn't require a prefix descriptor
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An adult, human, female. Female being one half of the binary dichotomy male/female-- which happens to also applies to all mammalian species.
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Way to miss the point. No one is 'not accepting them as 'people'. They're being challenged on their claims that they are the sex/gender with which they identify
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@hockey_n_horses1181 They seem to wish to have everyone deny basic biology, and recognize them as they perceive themselves rather than recognize them for what they are in reality vs their costume or disguise. They also seem to get very triggered about pronouns if you don't use the one's they insist on. Just sayin...
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It seems that the reason they have it hard is because they're wrestling against reality
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, duh... The thing is, the reality and prerequisite to becoming a woman is-- being born female, and trans-women aren't that. They're men, and are in no way entitled to access to women's private spaces.
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@markusbaker1161 You seem to have a vested interest in suggesting that men, when presenting as women, regardless of whether or not they suffer w/ gender dysphoria-- should be granted access to women's spaces and that women should be okay with that. That's Odd
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@markusbaker1161 Your comment history proves it
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Silly label... pointed toward the observant, who realize the following: They're not Trans ANYTHING. They're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after-- which means they're still men
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@Grinchillah Babies are innocent
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Having been a behavior modification specialist for many years, working with the developmentally disabled-- I realize that validating a person's delusions resulting from a mental illness isn't how you help or treat them. I mean, you don't tell a person with schizophrenia who's insisting that the toaster is talking to them and telling them to do harm to themselves or others that they're correct, or by validating their delusional belief that they can fly, as they prepare to jump off the roof of a building, in the name of empathy.
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@Tézis9 The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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It's how men actually feel which eludes them, and they hate it when you call them out on it
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They don't either. It's still XX, XY, Birth Defect, Psych Disorder. That's it... They're not trans anything-- Still male or female, respectively -- as they were born, only now having changed their appearance, not unlike a Halloween costume
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@the-birbo If you were the gender you identify with before and after transition, why, in reality-- the need to transition? Weren't you the way you were supposed to be, IF gender was merely a social construct and not tied to biology??? Seems incoherent to me If you didn't transition, you're not a trans anything . You're a male or a female. If you did transition, you're still a male or a female, no different than if your surgery was a nose job. You can put a castrated dog in a dress, and it's still a male dog, just now castrated and wearing a dress. Just sayin...
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@the-birbo Then, what did your surgeon transform you into?
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@the-birbo SO predictable. Overly-emotional, irrational, and arrogant when pressed to justify your comments. I dismissed you and your incoherent narrative and opinion a long time ago. Was replying so that others who are interested, may take our discussion into consideration. Later dude
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@jenex5608 You spelled 'Her' wrong. ;)
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They can dress up perversity as diversity, but they're only fooling themselves, if they think their self perceived fantasy is representative of reality-- in ANY way.
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@mariec3733 And they know their financial situation prior to choosing to indulge in the act which facilitates their self-inflicted dilemma, so are without excuse
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What do you mean? Half the people on the panel are women.
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A woman is an adult, human female, and has been since the dawn of time. That confuses you? You seem to be inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent.
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Only those who live in a delusional bubble
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Since women are the ones who risk their bodies getting pregnant, when they facilitate the pregnancy-- by choosing to allow men to lay with them, they aren't being forced into their choice to risk getting pregnant. They have no one to blame but themselves
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@TheLegendOfRandy Women getting pregnant, is a matter of the natural function of basic biology. It's not a mystery how that occurs. It is the natural consequence. Not an accident. What's your point? A better analogy would be intentionally driving one's car into a wall, and then acting surprised it got wrecked.
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@eveliinahannele No, I already told you-- Pregnancy is a natural consequence of biology. The choice to have sex, causes it. This is not a mystery
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@brekedekdang39 Charming... No one is saying you can't express yourself as you wish. You can identify as a Klingon if you choose-- BUT, that doesn't mean that others will perceive you as you perceive yourself. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. Now, what better advice to take-- than your own buh bye... Cope Harder
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@Maksie0 A woman is an adult, human female, so how do you figure those dudes are women? You're WAY OFF
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@aidsensemen5950 It's seems that they can't truly accept themselves, but think and act as though others should respect them, and accept them for who and what they'd rather be, as opposed to who and what they really are, and that upsets them? Does that about sum it up?
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@hellfire7726 No, it's because the phenomenon is observable, often enough to link the correlation. Think Deeper thoughts-- if you can manage it
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@hellfire7726 You wrote, "dude, take a social psychology class. Would it be accurate to say that men as a whole are violent?" Answer: No... ALL People have the capacity for being violent, and MOST do not act out on it. How is that confusing to you?? It appears thinking deeper thoughts is beyond your capacity. Best of luck with remedying that deficit
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@barbymadison878 80% of the households in the Black community, it's women raising the children without their fathers... so, what's your point? That they're doing a horrible job?
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sewer~rat TOTALLY redundant and unnecessary to describe women. Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@anunwantedsoul3672 Considering the self-delete rates (even after transition) being as high as they are, the efficacy and ethics of the so-called medical and psych professionals who advocate the affirmation-based treatment protocols and perform the procedures are indeed in question
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Because of all the 'believe all men' campaigns no doubt 💀
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There's nothing phobic about realizing that someone isn't that which they claim to be. It just makes those who recognize it, observant
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Bathrooms are designed and implemented based on biology, not subjective feelings and identity.
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Cry harder
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@Skyehiii Well, since you "know more than you on this subject as I live that reality", you should be able to articulate an intelligent explanation for the following, because so far-- it doesn't make any sense and more closely resembles a fantasy, than a reality. If you were the gender you identify with before and after transition, why, in reality-- the need to transition? Weren't you the way you were supposed to be, IF gender was merely a social construct and not tied to biology??? Seems incoherent to me
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Being trans is the highest height of the objectification of women-- EVER achieved.
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@Maksie0 Unlike the others on the panel
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Half the panel are women. What are you talking about?
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@conor.3875 Saying someone is transphobic, doesn't make it so. That label is laughable to those who aren't confused about the difference between reality and fantasy
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@emmawilde5156 Aren't we? How do you figure?
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@krasmasov6852 You failed to answer how so, when presented with the definition, which contradicts your assertions-- Again. I didn't change the subject. I merely exposed your comment, re: your assertion that the notion that masculinity and femininity have changed dramatically throughout history is nonsense-- by illustrating that Males and Females still remained males and females throughout history, regardless of the wide variability of personality traits and temperament each are capable of displaying, within the various cultures throughout history and their particular cultural norms.
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Lizzie2745 This comment shows that your shoe size dwarfs your IQ. All men are born male and all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference or a costume. Now you know better
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Some hairy dude in a dress screaming, "It's MA'AM"-- while insisting that they're a woman doesn't make it so. Similarly, having a plastic surgeon change your appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek, doesn't actually make you a Klingon. Same is true regarding gender transition surgery. Still, XX or XY
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@onyxavatar The 'because you said so' standard has been issued zero credibility because you've refuted nothing whatsoever. You fail to persuade
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, the words and definitions I use can be found in the dictionary. :hand-orange-covering-eyes: ex. Black's Law dictionary defines a woman as an adult, human, female. Your strong disagreement, unfortunately for you, your arguments, or claims-- isn't supported with anything which proves me incorrect. Your goal to agitate and obfuscate is clear, but it doesn't make you correct or prove me incorrect.
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@thedoctorofgallifrey Gender and sex aren't disconnected. Gender is NOT a social construct. Gender roles are the social constructs and they're well-established, which is why the counter-culture trans-narrative is itself the real construct and many seem unable to process that distinction. The inability to process the truth of it, doesn't invalidate the truth. I'm not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe, or cater to feelings. NO! Just... No They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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I have to ask, how-- according to you, is denying an ab0rtion putting a child in danger? It's seems obvious that the whole procedure terminates the innocent. It doesn't get more dangerous than that
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@Maksie0 They have no business in there-- they're men
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"having no choice over what happens with your own body"... LOL You choosing to risk getting pregnant IS your choice. Afterwards, as I've already told you-- come the consequences, which are clearly avoidable, by making better choices ahead of time. Men don't get pregnant. Why not apply that logic to those who do, and wish to avoid it, and then choose to accept the risks?
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Especially when what they're wanting affirmed and validated is demonstrably false
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Special Olympics
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@thecolorblue1635 So you're acknowledging that she's correct, so what does it matter?
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@krosleypayton814 If you're talking about trans, you use trans... If not, you're talking about women, or men-- respectively
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@ThaWiseMan-SD Correct... Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. All they're doing is altering their appearance and body chemistry. They're not 'Trans' ANYTHING whatsoever. Their the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after.
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Why are you?
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That's like saying, don't forget about people born with only one hand, or people born blind or deaf (Those are merely birth defects)-- Not another gender
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Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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1. Equity is in fact measured as an equality of outcome. There are males and females... That's it. Cope and seethe if you must, but it changes nothing. Men cannot become women and vice versa
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@sodiumso6015 No, it isn't. Rags to riches stories examples exist and demonstrate that your statement is nonsense. Additionally, there is no such thing as an adversity-free life
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Because they aren't risking getting pregnant??
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The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual 'Virtue' in your 'Look-at-me' comment
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If your friend is delusional and you recognize that-- it doesn't make you less of a friend. Friends tell each other the truth.
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:face-blue-smiling:😆😅🤣😂🤕
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Not much of a refutation
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They're not opposites... They're like yin and yang-- they're complimentary forces which support each other
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@bgos4727 Yes, it is wrong, and in 2022 it isn't a mystery how pregnancy occurs. Don't want to risk pregnancy, don't facilitate the risk-- Logic
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Funny that all of a sudden, everyone understands what a woman is-- after Roe v Wade was overturned.
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Developmental sex disorders aren't evidence of another sex invalidating the binary of all mammalian species. Gender is not disconnected from biology. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There are people and they are males and females and there are segments of both which present with various birth defects, psych disorders, and some with both-- none of which are evidence of other genders invalidating the binary. It's XX (Female), XY (Male), and a variety of Birth defects/disorders within segments of each ... neither of which display sex organs other than that found in the binary. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. Cope Harder
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@Sirena No, they're delusional men. They can have a surgeon alter their appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, prescribe hormones, recommend a fashion consultant and hair and makeup specialists and it doesn't make them an actual Klingon, and if they think it does-- it illustrates that they're VERY delusional
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@SaraMinatz There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female-- making the use of cis entirely irrelevant.
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@krasmasov6852 No, they are not or they wouldn't need a physicians assistance in altering their appearance surgically or hormonally
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They're often sterile
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LOTS are shadow banned, Censored, and Deleted
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If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not.
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Those delusional women pretending to be men, and getting upset at not being recognized for their preferred disguise vs who and what they actually are, is what's funny to me
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@AHLSPUDS Just additional thoughts on the topic, hoping for a productive conversation, but you did specifically mention "Male privilege", and that seems to be talking about gender. Just sayin
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@Erik-fn7kj It did... A book is a book, regardless of it's content. You're wrong I knew you were going to act like a fool. You're dismissed.
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It's Evil
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@CyllidCastle Your attempt to make a point with a broad brush stroke categorization of all men is in vain. It is only the emotionally troubled who don't process appropriately. I recommend adjusting your thinking to include that in your analysis, because your conclusions otherwise will continue to be WAY OFF
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How are they doing that? Are they wizards? Cool Trick
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If you want to call me trans-phobic-- I really couldn't care less. There's no there-- there. You can rename men 'trans', and it changes nothing but the name. It doesn't change them or make them women, or illustrate that they're trans anything. If your subjective identity is predicated on the notion that society needs to ignore objective reality, then your identity is not valid. How does advocating in favor of men infiltrating women's private spaces, show any respect or consideration for women and their private spaces??? Why, according to you-- should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim that they're women.
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They can't help it, if they're born that way. They're stuck with it. A trans-female can never be a female, and a trans-malecan never be a male. That's correct
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@Maksie0 It's even more simple than that... They're not trans anything. They're still males, and their costumes and altering their appearance doesn't change them into the opposite sex/gender. If they can't accept what they actually are, I refuse to accept them for what they're actually not
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@Yeltnerb 1 No, 'we' don't. I wouldn't play along with someone w/ anorexia, by affirming their desire to continue to lose weight, either-- for the same reason. Feeding a dissociative condition by affirming it, doesn't help anything
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@baristaz8834 In order for there to be men and women, women and men need each other. It's really not complicated
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The choice to terminate the innocent is abhorrently unjustifiable, no matter how you try to spin it
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@sotera8284 Their perception is that of women, masquerading as men and doesn't give them a clue what it is to actually be males
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@sotera8284 Well, woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who claim they're women-- and they don't even see it coming.
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Not much of a refutation there dear. No virtue, in your virtue signal dear.
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1. They aren't trans anything. They're still the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after 2. They're in denial of objective reality, which by definition is a dissociative state 3. Expecting rational thought from people who are dissociative, isn't likely or reasonable
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Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men Gender addresses the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female. It appears that many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@Maksie0 You can insist that a duck is a swan as loud and strenuously as you like, and just like with men and women-- insisting that one is the other will never be true
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@Maksie0 Well, there are those who claim to identify as dogs, etc... Bottom line is, a rooster is not a hen and vice versa. A male is not a female and vice versa, whether human or any other species. The gender construct is based off the sex assigned at birth, respectively-- and the social nature of being male and female. You, inappropriately conflate the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) with/as gender, and it's just incorrect. Manhood and womanhood are not merely costumes or cloaks one puts on or takes off, and one's imagination doesn't make their thoughts manifest into reality. Even if you REALLY believe it!
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@Maksie0 Poor thing. You still haven't figured it out huh? Apparently *he fooled you
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@Maksie0 It is the trans-activists like you, who's insistence that others-- who are already minding their own business, participate in your LARP and cosplay, by insisting on the grammatically incorrect use of pronouns, and with no regard for the displacement of women's privacy, which is at the root of how you brought your business to everyone in public, making it their business. Irony or idiocy? Quit your whining. You look and sound ridiculous
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Why would you? You certainly wouldn't use them when speaking directly to them, rather you'd use them only when speaking about them to others...
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@kyrstenjohnson9752 Beyond the singular "they" pronoun being correct grammatically, it's also far from a modern invention. 'They' has been used as a singular pronoun since at least the late 14th century. ex. 'They' pay their rent on time. Like I said, you wouldn't use a pronoun like she/he when speaking directly to someone, you'd use their name. When speaking about them-- to another, is when you would have the occasion to use the pronouns you're advocating in favor of like you're describing, however; you seem to be having difficulty with the concept. You wouldn't say, "Excuse me-- She, pass the salt", now would you? Well, maybe you would, but that's not how someone who understands how the English language works would use it.
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@mariec3733 You've brought it up enough times, signifying that you apparently thought it was relevant enough at some point, to make a point of mentioning it several times.
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@mr.mclibtard5015 No doubt, he'll talk about it being an adjective -- avoiding the point all together
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@TallisKeeton It's incoherent madness devoid of logic and reason
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@conor.3875 No one forced anyone to risk pregnancy. Get a clue. The time to avoid it, is 'prior to' conception because, afterwards come serious consequences.
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Weird: Democrats Suddenly Saying 'Woman' Today-- As If Everyone Knows What It Means.
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Exactly correct. Still male, or female-- respectively, and still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance and screwing up their natural body chemistry, as they are after.
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LOTS of virtueless virtue signaling, screaming 'Look at me'-- while whinging away, while saying nothing substantive.
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@markusbaker1161 Lots of up vote notifications to several of my comments indicate I've been not only been recognized but also endorse my thoughts w/ their approval. Ex. "A woman is an adult, human, female, and those dudes aren't that and never will be-- Cope Harder" 10 up votes on just this one" Make of it what you will
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It's nonsense. A woman is an adult, human, female and that condition is biological, and permanent
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@qk7x A woman is an adult, human, female. 100% of the population is either male or female, even intersex people. If they have a Y chromosome, they are heterogametic and male. If not, they are homogametic and female.
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@conor.3875 The final say on whether or not they're willing to risk themselves getting pregnant, when facilitating it-- is why they have no one to blame but themselves for their avoidable self-inflicted dilemmas. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one driven like a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences?
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I'll try to break it down for you... Life is valuable, not disposable, and advocating in favor of terminating children is devoid of virtue, honor, and morality. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one of a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences? A N Y O N E??? 🦗🦗🦗 Innocent baby's shouldn't be terminated because adults can't act responsibly
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@athena6961 That's not an answer. No, it's about not punishing children for the choices of their parents
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@athena6961 The morals and ethics of those who would declare the unborn to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are questionable-- at Best, and are those of narcissists and sociopaths.
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They're not trans ANYTHING. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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@BLUEGUTTA Erik is an activist troll, who plays the part of the intellectually disenfranchised
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Still is male. That state is fixed and permanent. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman, and that's being born female-- and that dude wasn't
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@niamhharikasen7848 One side is happy that babies will live. The other is sad that babies will live. And that is all you need to know about the ideological divide in America.
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There's no such thing as trans men. They're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're still women
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@xclosy LOL!!! Nope... You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, prescribe hormones, etc., and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon, and if you think it does-- You're Delusional. You can neuter your dog and make him wear a dress, and it does not make him a female dog. Just sayin... It's XX, XY, birth defect, mental illness... That's it, take your pick
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@lilnotmaster6094 These morally bankrupt ghouls are merely looking to justify their indulgence in their promiscuity, free from consequences. Cause and affect elude their tiny little brains and little black hearts
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The use of cis is nonsense. There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female
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@cricketwastaken Stereotypes exist for a reason. There are people. They are male and female. There are segments of each which present with birth defects and psych disorders, neither of which invalidate the binary of all mammalian species. Developmental sex disorders are not separate sexes/genders. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspect of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) and are incorrectly attempting to use the term as a synonym for/with gender
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@celestejacobs7386 I never said they weren't, Marie. The topic is discussing women's unwanted pregnancy's, not men's unwanted pregnancy's. Try to focus
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@celestejacobs7386 Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can "choose" to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, don't?
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There's 1 prerequisite to being a woman and womanhood and that's being female. Those men aren't respecting that
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@colonelsanders5278 Look, they can have a surgeon transform their appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek-- But it doesn't transform them into an actual Klingon. The same is true for gender surgery. They're mad because we don't see them as they see themselves, and we aren't falling for their disguise, or their incoherent explanations of their ideology... They don't accept themselves, so go through elaborate measures to transform their appearance into something they're not, and expect to be accepted for their disguise, as opposed to being accepted for who and what they really are. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect. That's It
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Then, they should quit facilitating their own dilemma. In the case of women choosing to facilitate their own risk of pregnancy-- there is no one else to blame for their unwanted pregnancy-- but them, and nobody forced them to do that.
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@Maksie0 There's a reason prisoners are segregated from society,and it's not because it's a bad thing.
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@echoticz9225 Why?? Your validation isn't required. See how that works. Similarly applicable to your pronoun preference validation from others-- but in reverse. Try it, you'll be happier. Quit looking for validation from others
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Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable That's why... Sovereign nations have borders
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Toxic femininity, being highlighted by them and their incoherent whinging
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You don't hit a kid and change their sex/gender-- by doing so
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Some opinions are more valuable than others. Opinions are like 0rgasms... Mine is more important than theirs, and I don't care if they have one or not
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He has NO case. The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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Which institutions?
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@albertbloodstone5921 What do you think you're made up of genius? Perhaps you could revisit a 6th grade science textbook for a refresher in human anatomy, the reproduction process, and fertilization
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@kida5004 Farmers raise chickens (not roosters) for their eggs!!!! The farmers, the chickens and the roosters can tell the difference between the males and females-- what's your excuse for the confusion?
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@celestejacobs7386 "Tolerance will reach such a level, that intelligent people will be banned from thinking, so as not to offend the imbeciles"-- Dostoievski
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Ab0rtion is not basic health care, and there is no legislation anywhere that prevents life saving care of a mother
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No, there are not. Quit conflating gender/sex with personality traits and temperament. They're not synonymous. Intersex is a genetic defect
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@MonDieuMaCauseMonEpee But because it isn't 100%, and women know this-- They risk pregnancy, when indulging the risk factor
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@cowplusdog5655 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and relates to the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many conflate the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) as though they're synonymous with gender and they are not. You seem to be confusing and conflating gender and personality. Then, you seem to be confusing and conflating gender and gender roles. Then, you seem to be confusing and conflating men for women and vice versa. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There's a prerequisite to being a woman, and that's being born female-- and those dudes were not. They're men If you listen really carefully, you can hear women and men everywhere rejecting the woke, trans activist, cult narratives en masse. Don't believe me... Ask Budweiser
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@Im_Julissa And you don't get to 'End' them either, for the same reason.
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That dude is unhinged from reality
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@thecolorblue1635 Yes... My questions haven't been addressed in any substantive way by you or anyone else, despite numerous opportunities. So far-- You're still substance-free with your comments, illustrating your lack or relevance and/or competence. Possible Both... We'll see if you choose to remain all form and no substance or not
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Even with the hormones, testosterone, etc. They're still the same sex they were born with-- even after they mutilate themselves
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When they are challenged on their beliefs that skirts, dresses, heels, makeup, hormones, surgery and literally the color pink doesn't make them women-- they tend to get unhinged even further. Those are women in drag The narrative is inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament, neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys, with gender.
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Pregnancy is a natural, biological function and consequence of sex, and women know that they're risking it, when they consent to indulge in sex with men-- so they really have no business blaming anyone but themselves-- for consenting to the risk of pregnancy, and achieving the avoidable, through no fault of anyone but their themselves. 'Choice' is for 'prior to' conception, because after-- come the consequences. They created a new and unique life.
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They appear to believe that they have some say on who can or can't have an opinion. That's Wrong. They don't get to tell anyone that they can't have an opinion. The world doesn't answer to them.
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@krasmasov6852 Well for all of human history up until about 4 minutes ago, there was no controversy about the definition of men and women. There still isn't among those with a functioning pre-frontal cortex. A woman is an adult, human, female. This is a fact. Say it in any another language if you please, but the definition is the same.
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Delusional Men vs Women
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What about dressing rooms, locker rooms, prisons, sports teams? There's a bigger picture here
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They're total narcissists, and detached from reality
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@mariec3733 You're entitled to your opinion. Your false assertions are entirely baseless. It seems to me that those saying trans women are women, are the ones who are misogynists, having no honor for the desires of women or women's concerns or privacy, and are the one's detached from reality.
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Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can "choose" to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, don't?
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Maybe? If they believe their own rhetoric, they're entirely detached from reality
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@ijustneedmyself Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men Gender addresses the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female. It appears that you and many others are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@Maksie0 How do you figure? You said sex and gender were separate; making the point that one's subjective gender identity doesn't alter their biology. Referring to him as she is grammatically incorrect and absent any basis in reality. Make it make sense
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@Ben-2606 There are people. They are male and female. There are segments of each which present with birth defects and psych disorders, neither of which invalidate the binary of all mammalian species. Developmental sex disorders are not separate sexes/genders. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspect of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) and are incorrectly attempting to use the term as a synonym for/with gender
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Science vs Science-fiction
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These delusional living memes illustrate the need for more asylums
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Because the ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. The saying is, If you want to anger a conservative-- tell them a lie, and if you want to anger a leftists-- tell the truth.
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If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity?
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Since women are the ones who risk their bodies getting pregnant, when they facilitate the pregnancy by choosing to allow men to lay with them-- they aren't being forced into their choice to risk it
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The plain truth is men cannot become women. Trans women are men with issues, pretending they're women without issues
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Empirical evidence and biological facts confuse the intellectually challenged.
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@lillyst5149 100% Correct. They aren't trans anything. They're the same after s before-- all they're doing is altering their appearance
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I don't think anyone is saying any of that. They're saying, if you're not ready/prepared to start a family, you have no business starting a family. Pregnancy is a natural, biological function of sex and women know that they're risking it, when they consent to indulge in sex with men-- so they really have no business blaming anyone but themselves-- for consenting to the risk, and achieving the avoidable.
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@Maksie0 Why do you think that kids who go through puberty will not gain clarity, post-awkward stage?
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@kodiejc4202 Think deeper thoughts. The point is drag queens, cross dressers, and trans women are all men
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You buy that huh? Grow a spine
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@Cheprock83 You're ranting nonsense. None of those things has ever changed anyone's sex either. What are you rambling about?
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@jadeayla7548 I'm retired, and raised my son, now in his 30's-- as a single parent, without his bio-mom in the picture.
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@mariec7352 HA... You never met your dad. Yourmom wasn't sure who your dad was
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Just some perspective: Women attempt it more often, is the interesting fact going unnoticed. They just don't use as lethal a means as men, so aren't as successful in their attempts. Their more frequent attempts indicate they're even more screwed up, or they're attention-seeking with their attempts.
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@mariec3733 You're still free to choose to risk getting yourself pregnant or not to. The time for precautions are prior to conception, because afterwards come consequences.
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@mariec3733 Your default seems to be looking in the opposite direction when personal responsibility is the focus of the conversation. Women-- who risk getting pregnant, when they 'CHOOSE' to engage in the behavior that causes it, already made their choice re: body autonomy. Be Responsible for your own body and don't risk the avoidable, if you're not prepared to handle the consequences. I submit that if men were the one's who risked becoming pregnant there would be FAR fewer unplanned pregnancies.
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The point is: the variability in personalty traits and temperament (neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) are not synonymous with gender, and to attempt to use them as such is totally inappropriate
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@bloodyirony Well, "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@justyana488 Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not. You fail to persuade. Cope Harder
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@Maksie0 There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions and you have done nothing whatsoever to prove otherwise. Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are. You just keep making yourself like a triggered, petulant, late-teen-- attempting to virtue signal, while seeking attention so you can feel relevant. The problem you have with your substance-free virtue signaling is the absence of any actual virtue, in any of your snarky commentary. You Fail to persuade. Own it, and move on
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@eveliinahannele There's nothing smart about doing it after the consequences of your poor decisions and choices come back to bite you
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue are people who don't live in reality about there being two genders. Cope harder
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The entire ideological narrative is incoherent madness
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She's under the misinformed impression that it's just a clump of cells and not alive or not her child, while the doctor knows better
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Well, it's not for you to validate their friendship, is it?
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@jokeruiner4481 Him and his friend are apparently fine with their relationship, so if they are who are you or anyone else to judge their friendship? crickets...
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There's nothing phobic, about recognizing that someone is not that which they claim to identify as, or as they present as like a drag queen might-- That's just being observant. You and MANY others are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) with 'Gender'
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That dude is unhinged from reality.
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@loturzelrestaurant No one is saying you can't express yourself as you wish. You can identify as a Klingon if you choose-- BUT, that doesn't mean that others will perceive you as you perceive yourself. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do.
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@elenamarkicevic9673 People who have the capacity to recognize and expose the root issue, that you're desperately trying to avoid-- Responsibility for YOUR choices, and actions their consequences are yours-- and no one else's.
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@conor.3875 You're the one who keeps claiming that sex and gender are different. That you don't comprehend that it invalidates your attempt to justify the incoherent narrative you've been peddling-- that trans women are women-- being that they're men isn't a surprise
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@depressedravenclaw5870 Facts are awesome and stubborn things. The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. Not reasonable or rational by any standard. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. What's your excuse? Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct.
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Women are not forced to have unprotected sex, so if they want to chase pleasure, they have to bear responsibility for the possible outcomes. No innocent life should face termination because of the lack of responsibility among adults.
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Yet, the sewerslide rate remains nearly 10x's higher than the average. When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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@Tray8088 The point is, they're pretending/portraying themselves to be something they're not-- and can never be
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@Tray8088 What you're talking about seems to fail to take into consideration that not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable, that's why sovereign nations have borders
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@Maksie0 Isn't their objection enough to respect their preference?
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@edgar5814 Not dissimilar to a Halloween costume, as I see them
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Yes, I concur
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@pineapple2.041 Nope... You seem to be under the impression that the 'Because you said so' standard affects reality. It does not
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@Erik-fn7kj Too bad your reading comprehension prevents you from comprehending the text. The difference is, I use the ones I select correctly, and when talking 'to' someone directly, I use their name-- not a pronoun.
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A woman is an adult, human, female and these men who've altered their appearance-- aren't that and NEVER will be
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I think it’s funny people need surgery to “be who they are”.
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@Jhon Dalton Bottom line-- men cannot become women. A woman is an adult, human, female, not a social construct. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman, and that's being born female. 'Trans' is the "social construct"-- being played out by men.
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Nonsense... They're not trans ANYTHING. Still the same sex/gender prior to changing their appearance as they are after.
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@mackayladavis4021 Never said it didn't. What's your point? 2. Consent to the risk is what matters. 3. Consent cannot be withdrawn after the fact. 4. The child resulting from an assault isn't less valuable.
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Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable That's why Sovereign Nations have borders Think Deeper thoughts
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Nothing she said indicated a government setting up a church-- which is what that is referring to.
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@jupiterfox7683 If your subjective identity relies on the participation of others in your cosplay and LARPing, and ignoring or rejecting objective reality-- too bad so sad for you. You better get used to being disappointed
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You can have a surgeon alter your appearance and prescribe hormones to make you appear like a Klingon from Star Trek, but it doesn't make you an actual Klingon, and those who would believe it does are delusional.
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Show me someone who values life and advocates for the ability to terminate life, and I'll show you a hypocrite
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@maranocna2530 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the 'cis' description entirely irrelevant and useless
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@pop_culturist Define religion, and while you're at it--define, what is a woman
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@tala954 Relax, Karen
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@heyhey8528 Dissociative disorders are mental disorders that involve experiencing a disconnection and lack of continuity between thoughts, memories, surroundings, actions and identity. Intersex is in fact a genetic disorder where only male and female organs are present; which does not invalidate the binary of all mammalian species AT ALL
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@heyhey8528 Dissociative disorders are rare. About 2% of people in the United States have them, but the cause isn't the focus here. It's the result which we're focused on, and the point is they're psych issues not biological issues
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@heyhey8528 There are people. They are male or female. There are segments of each which present with various birth defects and psych disorder-- some with both-- Still male or female, respectively. That said, it seems your focus is irrelevant. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. It's XX (female), XY (Male), Birth defects... of each and Psych disorders or each......... That's it. Someone's subjective perception, which is in direct contradiction to objective reality, is clearly a psych issue. Try Again?
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@heyhey8528 The fact that those buying into this incoherent narrative are conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament (neither of which is gender exclusive hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) w/ gender is insane to me
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@heyhey8528 Correct, intersex is a very rare genetic biological disorder/anomaly. The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule, they prove the rule by being the exceptions, and they NEVER present with organs outside of the binary of ALL mammalian species invalidating nothing whatsoever, about the binary nature of all mammalian species. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female respectively. Do you believe that someone born blind is indicative of another design spec in the anatomy of people without sight? or someone born with only 1 arm or leg? C'mon... That doesn't pass the minimum of scrutiny... Not even close
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@heyhey8528 Clearly, the number of births with ambiguous genitals is in the range of 0.02% to 0.05%, and are discovered at some point-- which illustrates it's an extremely rare disorder, and not at all what represents the trans community, since with intersex it's a biological disorder/anomaly/birth defect, and those w gender dysphoria are dealing with a psych issue of a different sort.
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A birth happens either way
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I encourage self-reliance, and self-control.
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@joytotha Those who promote the idea that a costume change, and altering one's appearance changes one's sex/gender
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Sorry to break it to you, but you don't use pronouns for others, when you're speaking to them. You use them when speaking about them, to others
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That dude has major issues
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@mizzyproductions8910 The final say on whether or not women are willing to risk themselves getting pregnant, when facilitating it, rests entirely with women-- and it is why they have no one to blame but themselves, for their avoidable self-inflicted dilemmas. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one driven like a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences? Innocent baby's shouldn't be terminated because adults can't act responsibly
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@TheALfever Like I said, Biological women are the only kind of women. Trans people aren't 'trans' anything. A woman is an adult, human, female and that biological category is fixed and permanent They're still the same sex and gender prior to altering their appearance and messing w/ their natural body chemistry, as they are after.
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@mariec3733 My answer is still there. Is the resulting child's life somehow less valuable if one or both of their parents is bad? I don't think so
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The narrative suggests that gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity. Both can't be true, showing the narrative is incoherent.
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ERRATAS 003 To recognize that something or someone is not as it seems or are not what they claim to be-- isn't being close-minded. It's being observant with a functional capacity for analysis and coming to intelligent conclusions
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@mariec3733 Ya, THEY need to adapt to society, Not the other way around. The point about the fact that males and females are a biological category which is fixed and permanent, making the statement 'trans women are women' patently absurd and false-- seems to elude you.
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@gawd-zila Then what's the point of transition surgery? Think
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Exactly correct
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Pronouns are objective, not subjective. You don't get to pick your own
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@jeon0jungkook83 That's a dude. Men cannot become women. Now you know
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Restrooms are designated based on sex, not subjective feelings.
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Who is in charge of preventing an avoidable pregnancy, if not those who can get pregnant in the 1st place?
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Imagine if the activists for the whole animal rights movement would stand up for the rights of unborn humans, the same way they stand up for animal's and their offspring's rights. The final say on whether or not women are willing to risk themselves getting pregnant, when facilitating it-- is why they have no one to blame but themselves for their avoidable self-inflicted dilemmas. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one driven like a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences?
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@ABagOfPotatoes It goes to the heart of your comment regarding treatment, exposes it as disingenuous-- and also illustrates beautifully, how not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable... And validates the borders of sovereign nations. Why do you ask?
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@HotTakeAndy So-- the guy didn't shun his friend, the 2 of them don't have a problem, but you're so judgmental that if the roles were reversed-- you'd drop your friend, and call him the jerk? Male Friend: Uses name, not preferred pronouns-- and they are ok with their friendship Trans-friend: If you don't use my subjective preferred pronouns, we can't be friends Male Friend: I've read your terms and conditions, and I accept your terms-- Pronouns are objective. You don't get to choose your own, and you certainly don't get to choose the one's I choose.
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@HotTakeAndy As a self-proclaimed trans, it's clear you can't truly accept yourself, but think others should respect you, and accept you for who you'd rather be, as opposed to who you really are? Does that about sum it up? hello.... hello.... crickets
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@KenzLovesMovies The definition I use is gender refers to the sex assigned/observed at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Even if it were true, that gender and sex are disconnected (they aren't), it doesn't invalidate biology-- so why should those men being referred to as 'trans women', be granted access to women's private spaces?
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@KenzLovesMovies Even if it were true (it is not), gender doesn't invalidate biology-- so why then, should those men being referred to as 'trans women', be granted access to women's private spaces? You have NO justifiable reason
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The stats proving women having multiple ab0rti0ns do in fact exist, seems to prove your assertion to be totally baseless nonsense
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Drag Queens, Cross Dressers and Trans women ALL have the same thing in common-- they're all men
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@Maksie0 You spelled 'Trans' wrong
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The comments show that there are people who can discern that they aren't trans anything, and that they're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after-- and that they're LARPing at BEST
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1. You sure are doing a lot of mental gymnastics to ignore the fact that the child which is in the womb is there because the mother facilitated herself becoming pregnant, when choosing to risk an unwanted pregnancy, by engaging in the one and only act which causes her avoidable dilemma. Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can choose to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, don't? 2. The vast majority of kids and teens you're talking about, are in the foster care system, and they're there because their biological parents are dealing with custody issues w/ the courts-- not because they were offered up for adoption. 3. The morals and ethics of those who would declare the unborn to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are questionable-- at Best, and are those of narcissists and sociopaths. 4. I think you just want to be able to act like an animal with no concern for anyone but yourself
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I expect that people who aren't prepared to risk pregnancy and deal with the consequences-- avoid them, and for someone with some integrity to inform them that the world doesn't owe them a life free from adversity, and to serve a friendly reminder that life isn't fair, It's what you make of it.
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@Maria-oh1nq People from there who travel to the US suddenly become different? Ya, ok-- You're dismissed
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There are many brands of decaffeinated coffee on the market, and they're not the same as the real thing either
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@prophetvegeta8850 Nope... mid 60's
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@Northkid1 Their intolerance for themselves, and those who recognize them for what they are, as opposed to what they wish they were, or how they wish they were perceived drives them to delusional extremes.
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@dismal982 If you were a male, he would've likely told you that a lot more
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@kiarachilombo9172 If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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Virtue signal received. eye roll
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They just want a free pass to act out their promiscuity without consequence. They're ghouls
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@xkingxcj2015 Lots of ghouls
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There is no such thing as trans women. That's just another term used to describe confused men who LAPR and cosplay, portraying the stereotype of a caricature of a female. There are only males and females, which is why using the 'cis' prefix is entirely ridiculous. Now you know why
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A woman is an adult, female, human.
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@OHOHOHOOHOHOOOHOOHOHO Men encroaching on women's private spaces and claiming to be entitled to do so, just because they claim they're women-- is quite rude, disrespectful of women's rights and is totally absurd
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"It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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It's the innocent baby's body that is the focus, which you seem to be avoiding
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@Maksie0 No... Trans women are men with issues prancing around as if they were women-- BUT, they're not. They're men
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@markusbaker1161 People with fraudulent Identification cards are still valid people-- but their Identification cards aren't. Are you ignoring the not-so-subtle nuance intentionally, or is it just a comprehension capacity deficit on your part?
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Nah... People be observant, recognizing the objective reality that that dude is a dude
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What you're referring to as "transgender women", are men--by any other name, still men. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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You ever notice dogs only come in male and female and when you neuter a dog, it doesn't become a female?
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Considering that half the panel are women portraying themselves as something they are not and can never be ie. Men, what assumptions are you referring to?
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@kingoftheworms3070 Wait till the insecure, and ultra-confused find out that skirts, dresses, heels, makeup, hormones, surgery and literally the color pink doesn't make them women. The narrative is inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament, neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys-- with gender
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@markusbaker1161 Changing what you call men doesn't transform them into anything else. They're still men
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@mariec3733 They are all people obsessed with themselves
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Both are men portraying something they're not-- women
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@markusbaker1161 I know, I wrote it. The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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You figured advertising your comprehension capacity deficit was worth mentioning-- because, why??
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The smart ones that have some class can
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Because parenting involves training your children to be able to function properly in society. Counter-culture isn't it
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Prove they're women, and should be granted access to women's private spaces.
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Delusional women vs men
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The entire narrative is incoherent nonsense, catering to and aiming at, and highlighting those with mental problems while inappropriately attempting to normalize it all. Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will claim they're women-- and the feminists don't even see it coming
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A W E S O M E!!!!!!!!!!!
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It's entirely redundant. They say trans women are women... No, they aren't. They're only caricatures of that which they can never be-- women, because they're males
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Babies don't get in the womb by accident. You don't want them in there?? You probably should quit putting them in there. Self-control, personal accountability, and responsibility are to you-- are like garlic and sunlight to a vampire.
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Only in Fantasyland.
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@jennifersteele7036 Calling those men something else, doesn't make them something else. They're still men, regardless of their attire, or claims to the contrary
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The 'Pro'-choice you're in favor of maintaining-- is the ability to terminate the child in the womb, in the name of convenience and it's shameful. The morals and ethics of those who would declare the unborn to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are questionable-- at Best, and are those of narcissists and sociopaths.
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It isn't as though everyone else is whinging incessantly about pronouns, making a spectacle of themselves by insisting that all of society participate in their subjective identity.
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@markusbaker1161 No, just pointing out an observation of irony. Bottom line-- You're wrong and men cannot become women. A woman is an adult, human, female, not a social construct. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman, and that's being born female. 'Trans' is the "social construct"-- being played out by men.
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@markusbaker1161 You most certainly are
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@markusbaker1161 Hasn't happened yet-- so you have nothing to worry about
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@Seagull Wait till the insecure, and ultra-confused find out that skirts, dresses, heels, makeup, hormones, surgery and literally the color pink doesn't make them women. The narrative is inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament, neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys-- with gender
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I would remind you that intersex isn't another gender, rather is a genetic birth defect/anomaly
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Intersex is a deviation of both sexes, not its own seperate sex. Sex is determined by gamete production, there is only egg and sperm in mammals/humans. This is why you turn up to biology class instead of art class lmao
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@Milo-nr9kc The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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@TheLegendOfRandy Yet-- You're still here
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Translation = They're not trans anything... Still female = 100% correct
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@petemiller2920 One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Cope Harder
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Well, half the panel are women-- Not men
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@wrenmarts2611 No, in reality
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@Lummine The singular they emerged by the 14th century, about a century after the plural they. It has been commonly employed in everyday English ever since and has gained currency in official contexts. The fact is they are not the sex which they claim to identify as, so using their preferred pronoun would've been incorrect grammar
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@clumsy_zebra_97 Don't conflate social constructs with biology, by suggesting that trans women are women. It's patently absurd and totally incorrect. Women aren't a social construct; trans however, IS. Those are men Your cult narrative is rejected.
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iiPortiaPlays It is a general statement. Generally, it's correct.
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@yumalove7411 Gender Dysphoria, according the the DSM5, is a psych disorder. This is well-known
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@username._copied123 That would actually require a sense of self-awareness, a conscience, and the ability to discern reality from fiction and I've seen ZERO indication that they possess those qualities
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I'll try to break it down for you... Life is valuable, not disposable, and advocating in favor of terminating children is devoid of virtue, honor, and morality. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one of a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences? Innocent baby's shouldn't be terminated because adults can't act responsibly
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@markusbaker1161 So have I. You have shown a massive reading comprehension deficit and/or willful blindness regarding all of it, responding instead with intellectually bankrupt responses. Your opinions, and severely lacking analytical capacity-- couldn't be less useless, or less interesting. The truth is that the 1 requirement for being woman is being female. Your failure to acknowledge it, changes nothing
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@Mel-wn9gb Leading the triggered troll Kras Masov, around by the nose. It's funny to me
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@Mel-wn9gb Its nice to be validated, when it's earned isn't it, and doesn't go unnoticed? Carry On
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No such thing as trans. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after. Try to focus
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Correct... Men cannot become women and women cannot become men.
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@mariec3733 😄Now, to risk it or avoid the risk... The choice is still yours. The point is, with risk come consequences, and with rights come responsibilities. Quit trying to dodge that fact
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@illegitimateotaku794 It's their instance that we participate in their fantasy by affirming and validating their delusional claims, as though they're based in reality-- where they step over the line
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@aidsensemen5950 It seems to matter enough to them that they would mutilate themselves to appear like that which they are not and can never be, and get triggered over being misgendered because others don't see them as they wish to be perceived or a don't perceive them as they perceive themselves.
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Look, they can have a surgeon transform their appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek-- But it doesn't transform them into an actual Klingon. The same is true for gender surgery. They're mad because we don't see them as they see themselves, and we aren't falling for their disguise, or their incoherent explanations of their ideology... They don't accept themselves, so go through elaborate measures to transform their appearance into something they're not, and expect to be accepted for their disguise, as opposed to being accepted for who and what they really are. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect. That's It
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@Erik-fn7kj Evidence to support that? 🦗🦗🦗
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@alexisfranklin1695 They're gender pretenders. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do
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@allie4492 You look triggered to me snapper-head
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And professional sports determine the pay of the players, based on the revenue they generate, not by how hard they try
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Education is the cure for ignorance-- BUT, Stoooopid is FOREVER because it is the lack of capacity to assimilate new information which crushes their narrative and course correct their thinking
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@Maksie0 Assigning the innocent the death penalty, in the name of convenience, seems sociopathic to me.
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@lokalemadderfakker_nl Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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It's incoherent madness
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A human embryo and fetus are not parasites. How do you not know this? There are 3 classes of parasites none of which describes a fetus. 1. The Protozoa is a single celled parasite, and a cluster of cells is certainly outside of that class. 2. The second are Helminths, which are worms, and a fetus was only ever going to develop into a human and a not a worm. 3. The third are Ectoparasites, like mosquitoes and ticks that attach themselves to the skin’s surface, which again cannot describe a fetus. There is no medical or scientific case for a fetus to be called a parasite. The only case to be made is strictly hyperbole
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Their ENTIRE narrative is delusional psycho babble
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@angelesbarkus-hough3932 Not trans anything. Still the same sex/gender prior to altering his appearance as he is after. A dude is a dude is a dude...
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@DefiledDame The way science works apparently confuses you. Can you tell the difference between a dog, a bird and a cat, when you see one? Well, I can
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@missshaye6591 They already lost... They just don't know it yet
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@missshaye6591 The 40% sewer slide rate, even after transitioning-- and those who regret their transition and have chosen to de-transition, doesn't show it to be effective by any measure.
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Almost correct. From birth you're a biological female, and you eventually become a woman, as you enter adulthood. A woman is an adult, human female
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They are evil
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Anything relevant?
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Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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Those chics are extremely troubled
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@xMaFiaKinGz Sad, isn't it?
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@chaeseor Yes, it is, and No, they do not. Gender and sex are not disconnected. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Intersex is a birth defect, where they only ever present with male or female genitalia-- Not another sex, invalidating the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species. Remember, the exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule. They prove the rule, by being the exceptions.
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@TheLegendOfRandy That's a reason devoid of morality, illustrating pure self-centered narcissism-- Not an excuse justifying anything. Not a done deal
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@Maksie0 He. That state is permanent
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I get what you're saying... It's XX, XY, Birth Defects, Psych disorders... That's it, regardless of what the AI bots and the advocates are whinging about, incoherently.
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Jubilee-- Where psychosis and ignorance collide. Women cannot become men and men cannot become women. Oh ya-- intersex is a birth defect, not another gender-- of which there are only 2. Quit conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament with gender-- it's just incorrect
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@GrahamChapman The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. You've refuted nothing whatsoever
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@krasmasov6852 Delusional
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Some overly-emotional reactive people illustrate that not all responses are 'Normal'
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@Maksie0 Triggered much? lol
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@Maksie0 That was hilarious
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@CBC460 You're not triggered enough to cry about it are you? 🙄 Misogyny? How do you figure they hate women?
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@emmawilde5156 I am merely reacting, knowing the definition of the word you chose, and that explanation-- isn't it. Equal to men??? People aren't even equal to themselves on given days. People aren't equal. They're all uniquely 1 of 1. What are you talking about?
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There is no honor, integrity or even a semblance of morality from those who advocate in favor of terminating the innocent in the womb
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Strong men, tend to exercise self-control and aren't usually emotionally reactive-- hence being 'Strong' men. That said, you might consider a more comfortable pair of shoes
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"It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- Thomas Sowell
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*He
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@jenniferAgbebiyi Bringing into question the ethics of the so-called medical and Psych professionals who support this ridiculous affirmation based treatment protocols.
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@Erik-fn7kj It is indeed a fantasy, indicating that you know trans women are not actually women-- after all
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@markusbaker1161 Look, I get it-- you're an agitator. Knowing that my comments trigger you, because I'm not fooled into believing men are women due to a disguise, or altered terminology-- is just a perk. There are no studies anywhere proving that a trans-woman is not a biological male. If you want to pretend otherwise, feel free
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That dude needs an asylum
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@Mel-wn9gb They're mad because we don't see them as they see themselves, and we aren't falling for their disguise, or their incoherent explanations of their ideology... They don't accept themselves, so go through elaborate measures to transform their appearance into something they're not, and expect to be accepted for their disguise, as opposed to being accepted for who and what they really are. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect. That's It
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I'd have triggered everyone of those dissociative loons
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@Maksie0 They are, when they say trans women are women. People are disputing that trans women are women... because they're males who've merely altered their appearance, thinking that somehow makes them women
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Shallow intellects fail to recognize intersex is a birth defect, not another gender in the binary
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@mariec3733 Knowing that-- YOU accept the risk of of achieving the avoidable. Ghoul
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Why?
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@markusbaker1161 Because respect is earned,and is reserved for that which is respectable. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@Sassylittle You seem to be hearing that from those complaining about him not using preferred pronouns, not from the guy who uses neutral pronouns or his friend's name. What's that tell you? It should tell you who the intolerant ones are
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The patriarchy is so brilliant that biological men are now winning Women of the Year awards
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Because they're self entitled narcissists w/ mental problems
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Exactly Correct
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The delusional women pretending to be men, and getting upset at not being recognized for their preferred disguise vs who and what they actually are, is what's funny to me
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Looks like you're describing mostly Democrat run areas
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There is no middle ground between fantasy and reality
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TOTAL Intellectual bankruptcy. There are males and females, and there are minority segments of each which present with birth defects and various mental illnesses/psych disorders, some with all of the above. They aren't "trans" ANYTHING. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance and chemistry, as they are after.
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They aren't 'trans' anything whatsoever. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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The ideology is incoherent and insane
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@MetalxxDragoness Intersex is a birth defect, where the individual has organs of both sexes male & female (Often non-functional) and they do not present another sex in the binary, and for that reason-- they don't invalidate the binary at all. Those with organs from both sexes are extremely rare and NONE are able to reproduce by themselves. Not a new sex/gender Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), with gender
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Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then your identity is not valid.
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@MetalxxDragoness Not hardly. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then your identity is not valid. They're not trans nything. They're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after. They're LARPing at BEST
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@ItsSchwifty I'm not. It's irrelevant, but to the extent that by definition-- if one is suffering with gender dysphoria, they are in a dissociative state. You can choose to 'identify' as a Klingon from Star Trek, and it doesn't actually make you a Klingon, and if you think it does, it makes you delusional. Your subjective fantasy, in no way obligates the world to affirm your delusion as valid
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Psychologically unbalanced people do all sorts of things that defy rationality
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@mariec3733 Kinda hard to do, when those same people are the cause for their situations, despite having all the power and control to prevent the unwanted and avoidable pregnancy in the first place. How smart are these women, who don't wish to risk pregnancy, then choose to engage in the one and only activity which facilitates the risk and is the direct cause of the avoidable scenario?? Just sayin... If guys were the ones who had to risk being pregnant, I guarantee there would be Nearly ZERO unplanned pregnancies. Women have all the power and control to prevent the unwanted pregnancies. They are literally creating their own dilemmas, by making bad decisions-- and are the root cause and gateway of the totally avoidable problem. There will never be a shortage of such people, evidenced by the data which shows the huge numbers of women who've had more than 3 abortions.
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Wrong... friends do have to agree on everything
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@RotisserieiJamie Why should those men be granted access into women's private spaces like dressing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, sports teams, and prisons?
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The morals and ethics of those who would declare the innocent to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are those of narcissists and sociopaths. Are you a phone scammer too?
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Because psychologically unbalanced people have difficulty processing rational thought
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The gender pretenders don't speak for any women. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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N E V E R. These people have mental problems
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@TrepidHen Dude looked to me like he was intentionally trying to trigger the women, and did
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100% of the population is either male or female, even intersex people. If they have a Y chromosome, they are heterogametic and male. If not, they are homogametic and female.
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@kaciek6893 Find a doctor that utilizes the trans affirmation therapy model and see if they'll do it
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@jbert423 I think the way you formulated your question is interesting. I think the "understanding of the 'trans experience'", as you put it-- couldn't be less relevant to most people. Regarding my preferences, as a retired behavioral modification specialist who worked with those with schizophrenia, multiple-personality disorders, etc.,-- I find no positive benefit in affirming the delusions of the delusional, as though they're based in reality-- as it goes toward helping them. I find that doing that does not help. You wouldn't, as an example agree and affirm a person on the roof top of a building who's insisting that they can in fact fly, by encouraging them to jump
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@jbert423 Ponder the relevance of your now revised comment: Conversations like this need to happen more, everywhere-- because Hearing about others' experiences is the key to pity. How is that beneficial or relevant????
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@wickxd9929 No it is not. Rape only accounts for 1% of abortion cases. Get your facts straight
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@Maksie0 Your inane comment isn't refuting anything
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And those women, who have to physically transition to appear as what they can never be-- isn't evidence of being insecure?
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So that *He can pretend that there is another kind of woman-- other than those born female
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If Leftists/Democrats are so concerned about women and girls being raped, why do they release rapists from prison over and over?
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And that doesn't change the reality that it's XX, XY, Birth Defect or mental disorder in the slightest, regardless of how you feel about it.
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It most definitely is listed as a mental disorder, by The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) The incoherent narrative is inappropriately conflating the variability in temperament and personality traits, neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys, with gender.
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@shmainginyt5421 Trans guys aren't guys either. The dysphoria is in the mind, not the body. You can have surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon either, and if you think it does-- you're delusional
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@shmainginyt5421 Newsflash: Men cannot become women and women cannot become men. You ever notice that mammals come in 2 genders (male and female)? If you neuter your dog, it doesn't become a female dog. Try to follow the concept, if you're capable-- and realize that the narrative you're espousing is entirely incoherent
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@shmainginyt5421 Really??? Name 1 🦗🦗🦗 No, there are no exceptions The difference between sex and gender: Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects associated with being male and/or female. Male and female are fixed biological categories shared among ALL mammals
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@shmainginyt5421 And that doesn't change the reality that it's XX, XY, Birth Defect or mental disorder in the slightest, regardless of how you feel about it. The expectation that the world must identify you as you perceive yourself, when objective reality is contrary to the way you wish to be perceived, sounds like a you problem. The world doesn't owe you
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@shmainginyt5421 Perhaps, you ought to log out and come back and look at the comments while logged out. I see no evidence of you refuting anything whatsoever
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@freemara3429 That wasn't an answer to the questions. It wasn't a refutation. It looks like a cry for attention, with no redeeming value whatsoever. Certainly nothing relevant. That's called projection. Irony? Try being relevant, before speaking up, next time-- so you have something to contribute other than your snarky Karen-like screeching. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual 'Virtue'. Just a thought
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I think it's rude to act like because you have an opinion that others need to perceive you as you perceive yourself, it creates an obligation for others to deny objective reality in favor of your fantasy, and ex. indulge use of your preferred pronouns-- because that's the height of narcissism.
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@CareBlair444 Insisting that other perceive you as you perceive yourself, and affirm your claims of being something other than what you are, in defiance of objective reality-- is totally narcissistic
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@CareBlair444 Your response isn't a refutation at all, so is that YOU -- sadly taking the easier route?? Looks like it from here My responses are correct and haven't been refuted.
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@Maksie0 They don't seem to have the confusion you do, about the differences between males and females.
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They're morally bankrupt and intellectually stunted ghouls
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@emilianocabezota3125 Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is respectable. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally because of a psych disorder or for attention, or Both. That you can't wrap your head around that is a YOU problem. Just Cope Harder
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You spelled Americans wrong
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I don't get it... It's not that they don't matter. Of course, people matter. If someone gets implants in their @ss and identifies as a Centaur-- That doesn't make them one, but that seems to be the rational of those suggesting that altering one's appearance and identifying as the opposite sex, actually makes them that which they identify as... Make it make sense
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@seandevlin4051 The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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Blossom isn't rooted in reality. That dude is entirely unhinged from reality
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@Maksie0 You 1st
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LOL Ya think? That dude is nutz,
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@teabagged4654 He's still a boy. Being cognizant that he isn't that which he claims isn't hateful. It's just being observant. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your/their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then your/their identity is not valid.
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@TheLegendOfRandy Vasectomy, or tubal ligation... Voila-- Have at it
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@ＯＦＡＲＡ Blinded by their own opinion? If they're telling the truth, they're telling the truth.
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@ＯＦＡＲＡ The truth is the truth, regardless of one's opinion about it. You're conflating personality types with gender. I notice you didn't attempt to address my question. What's up w/ that? If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? It's incoherent -- or that only the individual themselves can determine their gender identity-- if it's a social construct, how does that work?? Again, It's incoherent If it were true, that gender is a social construct, fluid, and malleable and not biological-- why the need to transition biologically? Again, incoherent They're already, who they are to themselves, and the proclivity to alter their biology, suggests that gender is NOT separate from biology. Why the desire to change if gender is merely a social construct? Again, it's incoherent No, It's XX, XY, Birth defect or evidence that a psych evaluation and treatment be considered, and btw-- the exceptions to the rules do not invalidate the rules. They validate them, hence being the exceptions
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@kylewilliams5454 No... Pronouns are objective, not subjective, you don't get to choose your own unless you're talking about yourself in the 3rd person-- which is actually odd. When talking 'To' people, I tend to use their names. ymmv When talking 'about' someone to someone else, that's not the subject-- I use pronouns, but I choose the ones I find appropriate. You don't dictate the words I choose, and neither does anyone else-- Suck-it-up Buttercup
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Life is worth living. Why do you disagree?
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@mariec3733 It's as if you think my comments aren't actually visible to anyone. Quit the foolishness
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@Milo-nr9kc The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule. They prove the rule, by being the exceptions
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I’m not delusional::::says the person who chooses to chop off their body parts, thinking it'll change their sex.
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Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@mariec3733 No, the pregnancy is the "avoidable", 'consequence'-- Obviously. The pro-choice decision is prior to conception-- Because, Afterward come the consequences. It's a woman who risks getting pregnant, when she chooses to engage in sex. That IS the cause & affect result that should be expected, is it not? It is the entire point of the birth control industry. To prevent unintended pregnancies. Why shouldn't she be the one who's primarily concerned with, and charged with taking precautions to avoid a pregnancy, especially if she willingly going to risk it? Hmmm??
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@Ninalikescake 5 D's of Dodgeball: Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive and Dodge. They take the risk, they own the consequences. It's not complicated.
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@mhmmargott Well, that's not much of a refutation marco. I love spreading the truth, and exposing the incoherence in the narratives, because the truth matters
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@mhmmargott Great! Being "trans" IS the construct. Deal with it and cope harder
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@saintshrooms9424 The world isn't fair, and whining about it isn't going to make it fair. Why is it the guys place to solve your problems? You're independent aren't you? Well, then handle it
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@mariec3733 Oh No-- Not personal accountability. You risk it, own it. No abortion for you. 5 D's of Dodgeball: Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive and Dodge
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@markusbaker1161 That's what I call them, so yes they are. They're recognized by me as dudes in a costume
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Say the men, while claiming to be women
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Show me someone who values life and advocates for the ability to terminate life, and I'll show you a hypocrite
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@Maksie0 No they aren't. They're men. Women aren't a costume that men can put on and take off, and they're not a social construct. Quit conflating personality and gender-- they're not synonymous
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There is no hate involved in observing that someone is not that which they claim to be
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@allyrose28 When some hairy dude in a dress, w/ clear psych issues is screaming, "It's Ma'am", clearly in contradiction to reality, affirming their delusion isn't my preferred solution. You do you
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There really are no other kind of women, than those naturally born. They aren't trans anything, as far as I'm concerned. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do
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@sodiumso6015 Dead things don't grow, and develop
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@Maksie0 No, that's wrong
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@gabriellevitale4670 A human can be pregnant with nothing other than a human. If a mother's life isn't in imminent peril, then No-- it isn't health care. It's quite the opposite of health care, and don't pretend you aren't aware that those who advocate in favor of pro choice, are in favor of that choice-- up to the moment of birth, so don't pretend we're only talking about zygotes and embryos.
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@Maksie0 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females-- making the cis distinction entirely useless, redundant and irrelevant.
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Did they fit you?
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People like Blossom don't even like themselves
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@nathanmccoy9188 The subjective term, 'Better off' hasn't been defined, nor qualified. Care to give it a shot? 🦗🦗🦗 Ya, I didn't think so
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@LJ-ld1lp Since you're admittedly confused about recognizing the differences between males and females-- there's not much I can do for your lack of understanding. Perhaps, you should consult a 5th grade, basic science biology textbook for further clarification on the topic.
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@mariec3733 You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and what you're doing is called projection
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@Maksie0 No, they aren't. All men are born male
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The delusional women pretending to be men, and getting upset at not being recognized for their preferred disguise vs who and what they actually are, is what's funny to me
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@grciesvn How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@Maksie0 That's not a refutation.
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LOL...A woman is not relieved of her culpability simply because you choose to ignore the fact that it's her body that she risks getting pregnant when she chooses to engage in the one and only act which risks herself getting pregnant. Again, How smart is she, if she knows that she doesn't want to risk a pregnancy, then chooses to engage in the one act that actually causes it, without taking preventative precautions? If a pregnancy should occur-- it's her fault for choosing to risk it. How is it not??
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Yes, self-control and accountability are required to avoid the avoidable-- because the consequential results of not exercising prudence and extreme care-- are severe and shouldn't be taken lightly. Being that women are the one's who risk pregnancy when they allow men access-- they have more culpability in avoiding an unwanted pregnancy than the men
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How so?
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Pro-abortion advocates would rather abort the child, then bring it into a world where THEY themselves will suffer the responsibility of contending with their actions because they're concerned with nothing but themselves.
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@petemiller2920 pub med dot gov
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Because gender is supposedly fluid? /S TOTALLY incoherent ideology
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@kerujerez8246 You tell them. Woe, to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian futures, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will claim to be women, and the feminists don't even see it coming
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Who is responsible for preventing unwanted pregnancy, more than those who can actually become pregnant?
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@eveliinahannele Men don't have an incentive, regarding a risk of their own bodies becoming pregnant like women do. You need to factor that into your equation. I'm saying, Only women risk getting pregnant, and if they don't want to achieve the preventable unwanted pregnancy of their bodies-- they have ALL means to do exactly that. The amount of single mothers should tell you that relying on a guy to insure that you don't get pregnant isn't a great plan. Why would/should someone else be compelled to care more about your concerns than you?
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They aren't forgetting. They know and are attempting to rename personality types 'gender' and it's not only wrong-- it's disingenuous
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@Maksie0 Pointing out reality isn't a phobia
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@khristianhenderson1974 Woe to the feminists who go along to get along w/ this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by men who say they're women. The ideology is anti-women
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@group555_ Evidence???? The self-deletion rates after the procedure, doesn't show well for the effectiveness of affirmation based treatment protocols, and calls into question the ethics of the medical and psych "professionals" who facilitate those procedures.
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Racists being racist, while complaining about racism. Sadly, their projection is not an uncommon scenario
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@Erik-fn7kj As a now retired Behavioral Modification Specialist-- Yes, I would
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@nathanmccoy9188 This coming from the same person who doesn't answer questions..., demands the world conform and comply with your preferred pronouns etc. It is YOU who needs to be persuasive. The world owes you nothing
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@Maksie0 LOL... Not even close
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Why should 'They' incur the expense to accommodate the subjective identities of people-- in stark contrast to objective reality, when restrooms are designed and implemented based on biology, not subjective identity claims???
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That's my take too. He's a narcissistic, activist agent provocateur
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Ya, but only by racists
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@Melon Sauce Look, they can shove a chicken feather in their butt, and they're still not a chicken, and they have ZERO frame of reference as to how a chicken perceives anything at all, certainly not to be able to identify as a chicken. They're a dude in a dress and makeup, Or a female attempting to alter their physical appearance to mask their female traits and replace them with male traits. Getting a nose job has the same amount of impact on ones sex and gender as a sex change-- which is ZERO. They're still a female or a male after transitioning--Just intentionally mutilated, or if they're just playing 'Dress up'... same deal Isn't it your side's narrative that gender isn't connected to biology? Well, then why the need to transition? You can put a castrated dog in a dress, and it's still a male dog just now with his bits removed and he's in a dress. Just sayin...
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How are they-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? Why should those men who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria be granted access to women's private spaces like sports teams, locker rooms, restrooms and prisons?
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Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@Maksie0 The definition of a woman is an adult, human, female, and as it turns out-- there's only 1 kind of woman, and she's born female. Now you know
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@mirrormaize What' they're not free to do is demand everyone else subscribe to their delusions, as if they are normal and healthy
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Nonsense, from start to finish.
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@markusbaker1161 Translation= No one seems to be able to refute my points
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@markusbaker1161 Altering one's structure and a wardrobe doesn't change one's sex/gender. That's a fact
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Terminating the pregnancy of a rape victim doesn't eliminate the trauma of their violent attack or undo it somehow, and the innocent resulting child isn't less valuable because one of their patrons was bad. Just some additional perspective
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@medusachristo4998 The fact that it will seems to elude you
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@medusachristo4998 Evidence???
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@mariec3733 Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time. You consent to the risk, own it.
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@Maksie0 Rejected. Those trans dudes will never be women
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Pregnancy is a natural, biological function of sex, and women know that they're risking it, when they consent to indulge in sex with men-- so they really have no business blaming anyone but themselves-- for consenting to the risk of pregnancy, and achieving the avoidable.
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@Maksie0 No, you are
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@R L That's how I see it, when some dude in a dress is screaming "It's Maam". I figured, "Buddy, that's a You problem dude, and If it bugs you that I recognize that you are not that which you claim to be-- too bad so sad"-- would be your suggested response. :face-green-smiling::face-blue-smiling:🤣😂
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@SriSrinivasable They're an activist troll and are apparently intellectually stunted and morally bankrupt
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@Maksie0 Must be the personal accountability that repels you
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@markusbaker1161 There's no hate involved in recognizing that someone is not that which they claim to be. It just makes me observant. Best of luck w/ that intellectual deficit and limited analytical capacity. Think Deeper thoughts
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Friends tell each other the truth. Expecting the world to deny reality to affirm your imaginary issue, evidenced by reality contradicting it-- seems selfish and totally self-centered. How is it not?
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The inability to discern objective reality from their imaginary dissociative self-perception seems to be an even bigger theme. Developmental sex disorders aren't evidence of another sex invalidating the binary of all mammalian species. Gender is not disconnected from biology. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There are people and they are males and females and there are segments of both which present with various birth defects, psych disorders, and some with both-- none of which are evidence of other genders invalidating the binary. It's XX (Female), XY (Male), and a variety of Birth defects/disorders within segments of each ... neither of which display sex organs other than that found in the binary. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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They do... When they acknowledge the understanding when the mother's life is in peril. Other than that-- there's no excuse
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Do you believe your understanding of the science, is correct? Well, there you have it
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@zoverhere Have the Special Olympics create them a category
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@scarlettdavis9336 There's nothing phobic about recognizing that you aren't that which you claim to be. It just makes me observant of objective reality. That you have issues with objective reality negatively impacting your 'feelings' illustrates a disconnect from reality. Somewhere in the world is the worst doctor, and someone has an appointment in the morning. You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek and prescribe hormones and an image consultant, and it doesn't transform you into an actual Klingon, and those who thinks it does are delusional
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@scarlettdavis9336 Developmental sex disorders aren't evidence of another sex invalidating the binary of all mammalian species. Gender is not disconnected from biology. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There are people and they are males and females and there are segments of both which present with various birth defects, psych disorders, and some with both-- none of which are evidence of other genders invalidating the binary. It's XX (Female), XY (Male), and a variety of Birth defects/disorders within segments of each ... neither of which display sex organs other than that found in the binary. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. They need to learn to Cope Harder
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@scarlettdavis9336 No... It's a clinical diagnosis. I agree that most who call themselves trans, aren't suffering with gender dysphoria. In those cases they're LARPing in the same way drag queens do. I'm a retired Behavior Modification Specialist. You're just wrong
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@lilnotmaster6094 That fool is an activist troll
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@My_Precious_Fun_Life Then, quit risking entirely avoidable pregnancy, genius.
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Both are men posing as women. it's really as simple as that
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@Maksie0 No, silly wabbit... Trans women are men with issues, pretending to be women without issues.
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The truth terrifies them, as it threatens their activist narrative
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There i only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female making the use of cis irrelevant and useless
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Half the panel are women. 100% Correct
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@Flaquito2893 Being courageous and doing what's right-- despite one's fear, is a virtue . To do less, is neither
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@Maksie0 Nonsense from start fo finish. The 'because you said so' standard has been issued exactly zero credibility
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They should have mentioned the fact that women make more attempts than men, but men tend to use lethal means and so succeed more often than women
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@wren_1224 Women who do not wish to conceive are obligated to avoid facilitating their own pregnancy, by not making poor choices to risk it
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@celestejacobs7386 Never said that they weren't. When the innocent are threatened with termination, it's everyone's business. You've failed to justify terminating the innocent in the womb.
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@celestejacobs7386 All abortions end an innocent, human baby. Life is valuable, not disposable
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@markusbaker1161 Nope, Still XY, not trans ANYTHING = Nothing more than a caricature of what they wish they were and can never be-- a woman. A face lift, genital mutilation, and a wardrobe change-- and none of that turns a male into a female, no matter how much you wish it to be true, it is not. Sorry to burst your bubble of wishful thinking
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@Birdiee93x The choice you're advocate in favor of, is to be able to terminate the innocent in the womb, and it's unjustifiable. The innocent child in the womb, isn't less valuable because one of their parents was bad.
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@mariec3733 You're ridiculous. I advocate against innocent people's lives being taken, and for women being responsible-- especially regarding risking their body's w/ an unwanted pregnancy, when they're not prepared for the consequences of their actions. I believe that adults should be responsible for themselves. Why don't you? Why are you asking, as if I haven't already explain it to you a few times already?? Always have cared, but it became obvious when I raised my son, now 32 yo, as a single dad. I told you his bio-mom wasn't in the picture (she and I weren't married), and I sought custody and won. He's happy, and a successful productive member of society. How many children have you raised?? I ask again, because you have run away without answering each time I've posted the question.
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@CreativeUsernameEh Even if he identifies as immortal? His point is valid. They're men. There appears to be a prerequisite to being considered a trans-woman, and that's being male. There is no science which shows that trans-women aren't males. The fact that people want to pretend otherwise doesn't change objective reality
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@markusbaker1161 There is no science anywhere that proves trans-women aren't men.
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@markusbaker1161 Those men you're describing have no business being granted access to women's private spaces.
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@erauprcwa Do you? They aren't 'trans' anything whatsoever. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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@markusbaker1161 Gender: There are 2, Male and female. Gender roles are social constructs-- Not gender, hence trans being a social construct-- making the statement 'trans women are women' absurd and removed from objective reality. They're men
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@littlesunshine4591 He isn't 'trans' anything. He's the exact same sex/gender after altering his appearance and wardrobe change, as he was prior. He's all kinds of wrong
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@littlesunshine4591 You didn't have to. My point is still valid
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They merely altered their appearance. They didn't 'become men'. They're still women
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The trans community appears as no less than a cult of personality
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🎯 They fail to realize that the 1 thing required for being a woman is actually being a female
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@Maksie0 If anything, they're men-- who are calling themselves trans. Still men
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If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity?
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How about, No. The costs will be passed onto everyone else. The thing is, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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If Democrats are so concerned about women and girls being raped, why do they release rapists from prison over and over?
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In the USA, the separation of church and state prevents the government from establishing a national church, and this isn't an example of that.
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@marlonmoncrieffe0728 There is no doubt that the Intellectually Disenfranchised and the Morally Bankrupt are the ones creating their own dilemma's and are the root of the problem
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B I N G O 💯
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@shh7440 Intersex isn't another gender, it's a genetic birth defect which proves the Binary as the norm
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@brianwebberable How? That dude looks like a reject at a James Brown look-a-like contest, or President Dwayne, Alizondo, Mountain Dew, Camacho from the movie Ineptocracy
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You should probably look up the word-- because I don't think it means what you think it does.
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@alicehogan6705 In utero surgery proves that notion false
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Assigning the innocent the death penalty, in the name of convenience, seems sociopathic to me.
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"Success" rates??? The self delete rates are higher today-- after the implementation of affirmation treatment, than they were in the past, and remain WAY higher than the general population. You consider that a net win in the success category?
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Learn to cope with the fact that not everyone will like you or agree with you
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They're not
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@ivooliveira4174 Apparently they care enough that they insist others perceive them as they perceive themselves, so much so that they get bent out of shape over using pronouns that aren't aligned with their own delusional sense of self. How is that not blatantly obvious?
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The incoherent ideology is anti-woman. Woe to the feminists who buy into this nonsense as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by men who insist they're women-- and they don't even see it coming. Dudes and dudettes in drag is how I view them
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No it doesn't. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Being religious doesn't invalidate any of that
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Woman = adult, human, female. Female = a biological category that is fixed and permanent. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspect of being male or female, respectively. Intersex is a birth defect, not another gender, in the binary
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They think their butterflies. The attempt to normalize these dissociative disorders is tragic and medical malpractice imo
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@mariec3733 Cause and affect, elude you and personal responsibility repels you. Why is it that a woman's autonomy being fully in tact, when she chooses to risk pregnancy and the consequences that go along with it, seems to confuse you and trigger such push back on your part?
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@mariec3733 You haven't heard... Not anymore LOL
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They should know the difference between gender and personality traits and temperament
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Nah... It's because *he's rude, obnoxious, and spouting nonsense
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They have exactly ZERO frame of reference as to what it is to 'feel like' a woman-- they're men who wish they were women
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@Maksie0 Trans isn't the standard by which all are measured, it's an extreme minority-- making the distinction redundant and entirely unnecessary.
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Both are men
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They're Not the brightest bulbs in the room
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Tell a lie if you want to anger a conservative Tell the truth if you want to anger a liberal
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@miadennis2292 I realized it was appropriately true, as so many commenters commented on the other videos too, like an echo chamber of single damaged goods - women over 30, and activist trolls and confused teenagers who are Intellectually Stunted and Morally Bankrupt. -- You asked
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Those who fail to understand history are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past
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How many kids have you raised who've become healthy, happy, productive members of society?
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That's because you're using the term inappropriately. There's nothing phobic about recognizing that you aren't that which you claim to be. It just makes us observant
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders. Intersex isn't another gender in the binary, it's a birth defect.
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LOL!!! Trans women are men with issues, pretending to be women without issues.
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They fail to realize that men (ALL of them) are born male.
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I recognize trans-women as men who've chosen to make themselves a caricature of the women they wish they could be. They appear to get triggered, that I'm not fooled by their disguises, and that I recognize that they're still men, but just with a quirky fashion sense, some of whom who've had plastic surgery-- and that regardless of you calling them trans-women, I recognize that they're still men. The 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female-- and those men aren't that.
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@cherrycrycry9150 No, they do not
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@GrahamChapman Those who have difficulty discerning objective reality are dissociative by defninition
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@Akwakween No, it exposes that the pretend game they're playing isn't based in reality. They can have a surgeon alter their appearance to look like a Klingon if they want... That's fine, but regardless of if they REALLY believe it or not-- it doesn't make them real Klingon. In reality-- I'm not obligated to play along with the transgender fantasies of those who do, as though life is a reality tv show. It is not
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@briannachilders772 Because the truth matters
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Wait till the insecure, and ultra-confused find out that skirts, dresses, heels, makeup, hormones, surgery and literally the color pink doesn't make them women. The narrative is inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament, neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys-- with gender
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Truth is not to be discounted where reality is concerned. The delusional women pretending to be men, and getting upset at not being recognized for their preferred disguise vs who and what they actually are, is what's funny to me
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Friends don't lie to each other, they tell each other the truth. They don't have a problem w/ their relationship, so who are you to judge?
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Babylon is rising.
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@mariec3733 Regarding accountability, intelligence and common sense-- Look, if you're a female and you consent to risking your body becoming pregnant, you have no one to blame but yourself
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It actually does. The incoherent trans-activist ideology and narrative demonstrate what it is to be a perfect Flaw
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Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can "choose" to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their family planning and difficulty effectively using their preventative birth control, don't?
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@Maksie0 Why would someone who believes they're a woman, insist on drawing the 'trans' distinction? That's extremely Odd
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@cal7772 Time to be responsible for your choices and actions... THAT'S wtf
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@bobbiepins3899 Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is actually respectable.
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There's no fear when recognizing that someone isn't that which they present themselves-- that's just being observant
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Small IQ, and psych disorders marching hand in hand
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@Maksie0 Referring to a male as she/her, is not proper use of grammar. Respect is earned, not owed-- and it's reserved for that which is respectable.
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@mariec3733 That does appear quite the sociopathic character trait, and tendency that you're describing, to suggest that life is so devoid of value, that you deem it disposable in the name of convenience.
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Would you say that a significant number of people who are claiming to be trans do not in fact suffer with gender dysphoria? It looks that way to me like they're LARPing at BEST
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@noahdouglass3294 Perhaps an asylum, if they're such a threat to themselves
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When you walk around looking to be agitated, everyone is an agitator!
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@GrahamChapman To repair an injury, or cure an illness, or to restore normal function isn't the same as choosing to mutilate yourself and eliminate yourself from the gene pool. Considering that the stats of self delete rates are way higher than they were prior to implementing affirmation-based treatment protocols, and remain much higher than the general population, showing affirmation-based treatment to be woefully inadequate-- it seems unjustified as an efficacious approach
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Perhaps just an asylum?
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Does the concept of the power of self-control elude you?
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@BX0T It's actually a biological reality that is permanent, and not a choice at all. You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek and it won't actually transform you into an actual Klingon either... The same is true with trans surgery. Still XX, or XY-- as the case may be, and your altered appearance doesn't change that anymore than a nose job surgery would either.
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"It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@justicethedoggo3648 I appreciate your broad brush stroke analogy, while leaving out the other side of that double sided coin, but that doesn't change the fact that men cannot become women and vice versa.
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@justicethedoggo3648 That's correct. They do not, however; femininity describes a personality trait, not a gender
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Because they're still women
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It's bigger than that. There are also locker rooms, dressing rooms, showers, changing rooms, prisons, and scholarships for female athletes.
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@daisyloe No doubt that gender dysphoria is real. I dispute that a significant number of people suffer with it, being such a rare disorder-- and those who aren't suffering with it are engaging in cosplay, as I see it. People can identify however they please, but it doesn't alter objective reality at all
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@Maksie0 No one is trans anything. They're either male or female... That's it
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@Totekindheit Yes
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@mariec3733 I didn't quote them did I? The fact that you don't understand my point isn't surprising, but it also illustrates your lack of reading comprehension capacity, quite clearly. The irony of your comment is hilarious
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@mataj0to561 Critical thinking and Coherent Analysis seems to prove difficult to many. Their view seems to go sideways with the notion that a girl, trapped in a male body, and that the male identity is immutable since birth, being the justification for transition surgery-- illustrates the notion of gender being disconnected from biology and merely a social construct, as just wrong. If they're just playing dress up and indulging their own kink and perversions, that doesn't make them the gender that they're pretending to be. Truth People who don't transition, are men in a dress and makeup, or women altering their appearance, and pretending to be something they are not. People who do transition, are still their original sex-- just altered to look different. Similar to a nose job... ZERO affect on their sex or gender IF gender is a social construct, there would be no reason to alter one's appearance, as they would simply be the gender they identify with at the moment, no matter their appearance or biology. Nope their explanation is incoherent If gender is fluid, and not biological-- Why the need/desire/proclivity to play dress up, or more drastically use surgical alterations, etc.? Aren't they already identifying as what they are? Ya, doesn't make sense. aka it's incoherent
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@prettyrottenpisces You're the one that wrote, "We're trying to normalize it". Get your tubes tied, and leave other people's kids out of your field of focus
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@ox4df5h6g5ff Hey what's up dude? You appear to still suffer from gender dysphoria. Sad to see You appear to still be inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@cyclicozone2072 Pretty much
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@GrahamChapman They're not trans anything.. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after. Gender affirming treatments are clearly ineffective, evidenced by the stats showing the self-termination rate-- even after altering their appearance, remains nearly 10x's the average
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@helia_. Apparently not
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@sistergypsyy I'd have just told him, "Chill dude. You aren't being very lady-like" HAHAHAHA
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Real friends tell each other the truth
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@krasmasov6852 No, that's them altering their appearance, to be reflective of something other than what they actually are.
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@Maksie0 Nope, not even close and they never will be
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They should never be allowed near children-- EVER. How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@Maksie0 Quit gaslighting. If you listen really closely, you can hear the sound of women and men everywhere rejecting the incoherent trans ideology and terminology-- and calling it out for the bull 💩that it is. Don't believe me?? Ask Budweiser
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@CarsonBobarson They already have the same rights as everyone else. Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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The 'because you said so' standard has been issued exactly zero credibility. Do Better
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@lanisehoward8397 Only 2 genders-- Male and Female. Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@menash000 Does giving the child up for adoption really not occur to you, as a reasonable alternative??
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@menash000 No, you mentioned abandonment on the streets and orphanages... not adoptions. BTW there are no orphanages in the USA, it's a foster care system and the VAST majority of kids in there aren't orphans, rather are kids who's parents have a custody issue going on with the courts. Life is worth living. You seem to be arguing for sport. Get a better hobby
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@illwill5215 There used to be asylums for people who were so far detached from reality, and living in their permanent state of delusion
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@markusbaker1161 To bolster the point that women have been attacked in women's spaces, by men who don't belong there.
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@markusbaker1161 I personally don't think it's a great solution to prevent that from occurring, to facilitate men being in those spaces. Why do you advocate in favor, as though you think it is?
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@markusbaker1161 Hispanic, and Native American (Seminole) mix here, but I am enjoying watching you make a spectacle of yourself. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@markusbaker1161 Your baseless opinion is irrelevant and is pitifully weak
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@jazzherself Where psychosis and ignorance collide, clarity is seldom found. Women cannot become men and vice versa
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No one is saying you can't express yourself as you wish. You can identify as a Klingon if you choose-- BUT, that doesn't mean that others will perceive you as you perceive yourself. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do.
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The problem with blossom is he's detached from reality and his shoe size dwarfs his IQ
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@Maksie0 They're not trans anything. Still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after
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Nothing stopping those men who wish they were women but aren't, and are merely acting like women, who have no business in women's private spaces-- from using the men's room either
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"Don't like bank robbery, don't do it" "Don't like taking items out the store without paying, don't do it" “Don’t like child abuse, don’t do it, my fists, my feet, my choice!!” What you sound like
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@krasmasov6852 Science says, "XX, XY, Birth Defect/Anomaly... That's it". Science-fiction says, "Gender and biology are disconnected"
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@ariabird925 Not a refutation. Do Better. You deleting my comments doesn't make what I said untrue.
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@ariabird925 There's nothing phobic about realizing that they're not that which they claim to be- It just makes one observant. The thing is, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@Maksie0 Those who can't act responsibly should quit their whinging, as though it isn't their own damned fault for putting themselves in that situation
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@molls127 It's XX, XY, Birth defect, Psych disorder... That's it! Take your pick. Intersex represent a birth defect, not another gender in the binary. When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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@charlene2459 It's not surprising that people who suffer severe anxiety when faced with having to select the appropriate restroom have a major glitch in their capacity for intelligent analysis and coherent conclusions
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@julion2902 The choice is to risk becoming pregnant or not to risk it
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@firstofawll A woman is an adult, human, female. That's a biological category, not a social construct. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. You're confusing gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament with gender, while simultaneously conflating biological sex with gender.
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@markusbaker1161 Blossom, is that you? :face-blue-smiling::face-turquoise-covering-eyes:
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@sanityslayer5291 No, your interpretation of what he said-- is what You deem disrespectful. There's some nuance there that's worth acknowledging. First of all, you don't use preferred pronouns when speaking to someone. You'd use their name. You'd only use pronouns when speaking about someone to another-- and even then, there's nothing disrespectful about using a neutral pronoun. Secondly, pronouns are objective, not subjective.
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@Infinite-ImprovementAlt An adult, human, female. 😏
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Not accurate
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@char6081 Expecting rational, intelligent analysis and comprehension capacity from those with mental disorders isn't logical. "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@Grinchillah Well, they become a unique new life at conception and begin the human developmental process-- regardless of your arbitrary opinion
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The fundamental issue is a moral one, which exposes whether or not you believe life is valuable. If yes, you don't categorize it as disposable
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@Maksie0 Even more accurate men vs women
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@markusbaker1161 That's what I said-- men vs women
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@markusbaker1161 Those men are free to pretend they're women, and you are too. Your willingness to cast women's rights aside so men can objectify them is noted
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@markusbaker1161 If they don't need the recognition because they already have it, the insistence of preferred pronouns seems extremely odd -- shocker Men or women... by any other name are still men or women just the same. Like I said you're free to pretend that using a different name is somehow meaningful.
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@markusbaker1161 Evidence is still ZERO. You insist you can refute me, but your absence of proof suggests otherwise-- as I am still not yet refuted by you or anyone else-- doctors included
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@markusbaker1161 You're asserting that referring to trans-women as men is inappropriate, as if the trans distinction means they aren't men, so the onus is on you to prove it. You want a study that shows men aren't women? Try a basic 6th grade biology textbook
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@markusbaker1161 Evidence is still Z E R O, because there is none to support the claims that men can become something else other than men-- just by using a different name.
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Is an innocent baby less entitled to life if one of their parents is bad? If no, then-- I don't see the conflict
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@NB0605 There's no hate in recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim to be. It's just being observant of objective reality. As I see it, it seems like they're misgendering themselves
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I'm not pro-abortion, and I raised my son without his bio-mom in the picture. Get real
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@Maksie0 No doubt, what your grandparents say to each other, when speaking of their own son, having you for an offspring to have to contend with
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Gender: There are 2, Male and female. Gender roles are social constructs-- Not gender, hence trans being a social construct-- making the statement 'trans women are women' absurd and removed from objective reality. They're men... It's really not complicated
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@PKMNFan4664 The relevance was to provide some perspective re: the incoherence of the narrative. 🙄
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@timokautto9815 Too bad the millions trying to get in illegally don't feel the same way
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@MissLadyG99 Not only that... Who are they to challenge your pronoun while demanding you use theirs? TOTALLY Arrogant, narcissistic, and hypocritical
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@MissLadyG99 Yup... I wouldn't expect the delusional to "Get it". "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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A woman is a female, adult, human. How do you not know this by now?
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@technoloverish Nope. Too many still haven't figured out that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender, and they're conflating it
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How many kids have you raised, who've become well-adjusted, productive members of society??
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People who are in a dissociative state, are by definition delusional. What of it?
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No they aren't. A woman is an adult, human, female, and they aren't -- That
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@markusbaker1161 Nah... Not angry at all. Just observant of objective reality
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The idea that anyone could possible be confused about reality, and simultaneously be considered sane and rational is not a rational conclusion
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Other than proving that some people have standards and others-- not so much, what would be the point?
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@cjbeaudry835 Those chics are nuts
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@mariec3733 The child isn't less valuable. I'm not avoiding that-- You are
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@SB-xl1ef The continued shadow banning and deleting of comments which crush this incoherent ideology, of the AI troll bots, and activists who can't handle having a genuine intellectual challenge to their narratives
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@rickhunter7443 That wasn't a great illustration of your point, as the answer is-- no one because EVERYONE dies
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@Maksie0 Spoken like an Activist-Groomer
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?? Because ALL gay people think the same, and belong to the same communities, share the same moral values, temperament, style, etc.??? Think Deeper thoughts
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My issue is discerning reality vs their subjective, delusional self-identity which mocks it-- by suggesting we need to affirm their self-perceived identities. The answer is No... Just No They aren't 'trans' anything whatsoever. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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People are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament-- neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys-- and are incorrectly calling that gender
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@krystalshepherd4582 They're people with psych disorders. Their personalities reflect that
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Some are born defective (Some physically, some mentally, some morally, and some all of the above)
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@But...WhyTho The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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They're radical ideologues with mental disorders
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No, she isn't. All humans embryo, and fetuses are a human life from the moment of conception until the end of their life span, and they can be nothing other than a human. At the moment of conception, begins the human life span, with it's 1st stage of development. This is not controversial.
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@eveliinahannele It means, it is to be the expected result/consequence-- so quit pretending it isn't relevant, and at the root of this conversation topic.
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@eveliinahannele Maybe for you, crashing is the natural result of driving a car, but for most it is merely the exception to the rule not the rule itself. Nope... the exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule, they prove the rule by being the exception. It's the entire reason there is a birth control industry. Use your brain to think deeper thoughts
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@breemystic No, it does not. Until an egg is fertilized it isn't a new unique human life. Consult a biology textbook and focus on the fertilization process for further clarification
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I feel sorry for their children, who were sacrificed in the name of convenience, by their own mothers
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@Maksie0 Why? Normalizing their psych disorders seems irrational
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@Maksie0 Women are women-- regardless of how they self-identify, so using cis is redundant and none of anyone's concern but yours.
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@firstofawll Medical student? Then you should know that one's subjective identity doesn't invalidate their biology, and that the definition of a woman is an adult, human, female-- making being female a prerequisite to being a woman wth?
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@kachi2000 "It' usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@hellfire7726 You fail to realize that stereotypes exist for a reason
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Only 2 genders-- Male and Female. Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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Fantastic analogy. I'm going to use that. Thanks 👍
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Alternative facts? There are facts and there is fiction. Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@cyclicozone2072 E X A C T L Y Correct
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@johnnyvansguard869 These conversations need to be had within the confines of an asylum therapy session
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Disagree... Not all things people do are respectable, nor deserving of respect. Respect is earned
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Psychopathic, and Evil-- NOT merely sad
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Why?
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@sam-mk7uv Why is it sad? to see what? happening??
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@jmlorenzo3639 The same can be said for men too, so what's the point?
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Because the narrative is incoherent nonsense that they're pushing onto others to accept as valid
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It's not that their existence is unjustified. It's that they are not that which they claim to identify as, and having their appearances surgically altered, wearing disguises and imagining they're men doesn't make it so
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Is that conclusion of your designed to show that your shoe size dwarfs your IQ w/ that Intellectually vacant capacity for logic and reason?
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@pineapple2.041 Evidence?? 🦗🦗🦗
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No, they don't.
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The validation from parents to their children-- as children, is not the same thing as validating adults-- who think and act like children needing validation from other random people who they don't know-- are 2 VERY different things
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Free speech scares you? Interesting.
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Still Human
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@saralynn518 Are you aware of a human being pregnant with anything other than a human? I'm not
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@saralynn518 A human embryo and fetus are not parasites. How do you not know this? There are 3 classes of parasites none of which describes a fetus. The Protozoa is a single celled parasite, and a cluster of cells is certainly outside of that class. The second are Helminths, which are worms, and a fetus was only ever going to develop into a human and a not a worm. The third are Ectoparasites, like mosquitoes and ticks that attach themselves to the skin’s surface, which again cannot describe a fetus. There is no medical or scientific case for a fetus to be called a parasite. The only case to be made is strictly hyperbole
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@freedommatters7677 Really?
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@TheLegendOfRandy The world doesn't revolve around you, or owe you a stress-free existence. I pay my own bills. I recommend you do the same.
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@mariec3733 Then, quit your sniveling about preferred pronouns which aren't grounded in biological reality
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Their entire ideological, cult narrative is incoherent
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@AlxndrHQ You are so far, the ONLY one to acknowledge the truth of the matter about the narrative being incoherent with an open mind.
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Quit conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament with gender.
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@markusbaker1161 So you keep saying. Making the point that trans is the social construct, which doesn't alter biology-- no doubt
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@conor.3875 What did I say that isn't true? There is no case where a blade of grass has grown into a human, that I'm aware of
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@Maksie0 No, for being a m0r0n, not for being trans
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You failed to account for the number of those who choose to keep the baby, even in the case of rape. It means that (using your numbers) that 623,600 baby's lives would be saved
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'Trans' people are posers, and imposters posing as something they can never be in reality-- nothing more
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@person1420 Well, that's certainly not a refutation nor an answer to the question, rendering your presence as less than useless, though it does look a lot like projection-- on your part. I recommend, in the future-- you try being relevant instead
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Based on what facts do you come to that conclusion???
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Against pregnancy? Don't get pregnant
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Men do get falsely accused of it, by women
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@Maksie0 Babies being innocent, is the relevant bit that seems to elude you
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Gender, Gender Roles and Personality are not synonymous. All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, preferences, or costumes
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@Mara_Natha_ "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@Maksie0 More like being an emotionally and intellectually stunted troll, keeps you on the outlook for what to be offended about next-- keeping you triggered enough to exhibit your ignorance at every given opportunity. You've established nothing substantive, and you've refuted even less.
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@Maksie0 You seem to be under the impression that your opinion is of value. It is not
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@eveliinahannele There is no escaping the culpability that women have, regarding their choices to risk their body's getting pregnant, and your efforts to pretend that they have no power to avoid the avoidable-- is in vain.
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The self-deletion rates after the procedure, doesn't show well for the effectiveness of affirmation based treatment protocols, and calls into question the ethics of the medical and psych "professionals" who facilitate those procedures.
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Because those people have a sewer-slide rate even after transition near 40%. Nearly 10x's higher than the norm
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@gretehomann7556 self-inflicted life cancellation. If I type the correct spelling, it gets censored/deleted
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@Maksie0 Says the fool who's confused about the difference between men and women
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If I had a dollar for every gender, I'd have 2 dollars and a bunch of counterfeits.
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@showithere8550 That's not an issue for those who accept who they are, and it's those who are confused about the facts who don't accept who they are
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@MonDieuMaCauseMonEpee 5 D's of Dodgeball: Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive and Dodge
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@mariec3733 Not in Texas, anymore. Try again?
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@mariec3733 A significant number of them, yes-- and I'll take it as a win. If you don't, why all the whinging?
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@markusbaker1161 Those are women, call them whatever you like-- Still women
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@TheLegendOfRandy Because the death sentence for the innocent is unjustifiable, especially from those who created the situation they wish to avoid in the 1st place.
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Words and their definitions matter. Do you think the pro-trans agenda intended to prove that the gender pay gap is a myth, by maintaining the ideology's insistence that gender is separate from biology and fluid?
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They fail to recognize that you wouldn't use pronouns when talking directly to someone. You'd only use them when referring to another, while talking about them
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@albertbloodstone5921 They're not trans anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance-- as they are after they do
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The world doesn't owe you acceptance. If You want to integrate into society-- then remember that it's YOU, who needs to adapt. To insist that society must play along with your counter-culture position-- makes you seem arrogant, narcissistic, self-entitled and ridiculous. You're not the center of the universe and the world isn't going to reorganize itself to accommodate your subjective feelings, contrary to objective reality. You need to develop better coping mechanisms to deal with adversity, because not everyone is going to like you, or be accommodating.
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Here's a reality for you: Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue are people who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@MoonshineH No... A woman is an adult, human female-- and men who alter their appearance aren't that
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@Hotrodchef89 Because male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek if you want, and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon and if you think it does, you're delusional
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The delusional women pretending to be men, and getting upset at not being recognized for their preferred disguise vs who and what they actually are, is what's funny to me
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That condition of being male is fixed and permanent. They're merely caricatures of what they wish they were
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@But...WhyTho That's not a refutation. Have you also noticed that none have presented a refutation, and instead have resorted to hollow words resembling a virtue-free tantrum gone unchecked?
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Womanhood isn't a costume one can put on. You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, prescribe hormones, etc., and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon, and if you think it does-- You're Delusional. You can neuter your dog and make him wear a dress, and it does not make him a female dog. Just sayin...
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Ya, but the words already have a definition. The terms masculinity and femininity refer to traits or characteristics-- typically associated with being male or female, respectively.
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If women offer themselves up to men for sex, they are the catalyst for their own avoidable dilemma. The intellectual gymnastics that SO MANY go through, to avoid responsibly for their own action is stunning. Women know what causes pregnancy, and so-- have no one to blame for their unwanted pregnancy but themselves, when they facilitate the one and only act which causes their avoidable dilemma
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@Erik-fn7kj Explain why they're not
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@Erik-fn7kj How do you reconcile that with multi-racial people?
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Low IQ, coupled with psych and emotional problems = Dismissed
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The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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@Liberty5024 Facts are awesome and stubborn things. The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@Emma-tx4sk trans-women are men
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@markusbaker1161 trans women, drag queens, and cross dressers are all men. Cope harder
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They fail to realize that the 1 thing that's required to be a woman is to actually be a female
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For all of human history Men and women have been ruled over and those who ruled started wars and the people who were ruled over had no say about the matter. sheesh...
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@marsdavidson8307 No, I did not. I denied your assertion that I didn't respond to 'You'. There are 10 comments under this post-- including this one, and none from you to me, until you wrote, "Oh another one". Did you bump your head or something? In your other stalker comment, you said that I didn't respond to your questions or comments, yet, you failed to provide an example of me not responding to you. Did you skip your meds again? It looks like you woke up and decided that you needed to scream for attention, but merely screaming 'Look at me, I'm a fool' is probably not the best use of your time and it definitely doesn't persuade anyone to take you seriously or to affirm your point of view. You really need to do better
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Both are men, portraying themselves as something they're not-- women
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No one said they're invalid. Observing that someone is not that which they claim to be is merely being observant
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@Maksie0 The concept of gender as something other than describing the 2 sexes was quite literally crafted out in the second half of 20th century by people like John Money and Simone de Beauvoir-- But you keep on believing your talking point is valid. It isn't. Look up the Etymology on the word gender, and it's clear that it wasn't used to describe a social construct. Gender noun 1. either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female: "a condition that affects people of both genders" 2. (in languages such as Latin, Greek, Russian, and German) each of the classes (typically masculine, feminine, common, neuter) of nouns and pronouns distinguished by the different inflections that they have and require in words syntactically associated with them.
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Rejection-- Get used to it.
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The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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The point is, people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. How is that not a delusional, dissociative state, by definition? One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament (neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), as if or as though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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Because you're not. If trans-women are women, -- there are no women. The ideology is incoherent and disconnected from reality. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect or evidence that a psych evaluation and treatment commence immediately-- That's It Alone in the shower alone, they know they're a guy Found damaged and unconscious in a wreck, the EMT's know he's a guy Dead on a slab, the Coroner knows he's a guy Archaeologists finding his bones and DNA, Knows he's a guy. He's a guy pretending to be a girl. Don't be a science denier
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The patriarchy is so brilliant that biological men are winning women of the year awards. LOL🤣
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That dude's shoe size dwarfs his IQ
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@frijolespepepapa9464 That isn't much of a refutation, re: the comments that are still visible.
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@frijolespepepapa9464 Why would I?? You think I'm psychic? How should I know what your question is? You can ask your own questions, Can't you? I'm not requiring you use particular pronouns, so if you're trying to persuade-- you're failing, so really need to do better.
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@frijolespepepapa9464 Irrelvant
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@dundundun430 Pronouns are objective, not subjective. You don't get to pick your own
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@rinyaskyline That is correct. Thank you... I didn't bother answering that because, "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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It's seems that they can't truly accept themselves, but think and act as though others should respect them, and accept them for who and what they'd rather be, as opposed to who and what they really are, and that upsets them? Does that about sum it up?
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They're narcissists. That's just not who they are or how they roll
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@catluvr22 If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? In other words: If a girl, trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (supposedly the reason for transitioning), How can gender be fluid and separate from biology? Answer: It can't
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, they were correct when they wrote he and himself, as there are No studies anywhere which prove trans-women aren't biologically male
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 @markusbaker1161 Prove they're women, and should be granted access to women's private spaces.
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Look, they can have a surgeon transform their appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek-- But it doesn't transform them into an actual Klingon. The same is true for gender surgery. They're mad because we don't see them as they see themselves, and we aren't falling for their disguise, or their incoherent explanations of their ideology... They don't accept themselves, so go through elaborate measures to transform their appearance into something they're not, and expect to be accepted for their disguise, as opposed to being accepted for who and what they really are. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect. That's It
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If gender is fluid, and disconnected from biology-- as the trans-activist ideology claim, there's no such concept to contend with, so why ask?
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Why can't the trans-activists define "woman"?
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Ironically funny to realize that it's usually some white Karen virtue signaling as though there's any actual virtue in any of her unhinged whinging
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Is there a middle ground between objective reality and the potential number of infinite, subjective individual claims of 'identity'-- which happen to to be objectively false? The inappropriate conflation of personality traits and temperament, neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys-- with gender, is causing a lot of confusion. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively, and male and female are in fact biological categories which are fixed and permanent. I posit that there isn't trans anything. You're still the same sex/gender prior to altering your appearance, as you are after, and if gender is fluid-- why the need to change?? It's like extreme LARPing/cosplay to people who recognize that you are not that which you claim to identify as and/or present yourself as.
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@chloejwylie If learning that the narrative of another is invalid, and that annoys you-- you aren't interested in truth. Yes, the truth hurts those who insist the lies are real
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You don't use pronouns when talking directly to people. You use pronouns when talking about people to others
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Not all. Which are you?
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They're men, and have no business in women's bathrooms. Get Real
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@Maksie0 Clearly, that's wrong. The cases are established as a matter of fact
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Personality traits and temperament are different things than gender, and they're conflating them and acting as though they're synonymous-- and they're just not
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@friendlyzombie1460 No, just laws that apply equally to everyone. Too simple?
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There is no escaping the culpability that women have, regarding their choices to risk their body's getting pregnant, and the efforts to pretend that they have no power to avoid the avoidable, and any responsibility to avoid the avoidable-- are in vain.
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What a croc of crap, that nihilistic view of life is
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@ameliamegow7068 It appears that your thoughts about their considerations is rather dismissive and unsupportive. Should You be required to support their considerations? Look, people who suffer anxiety when faced with having to select the appropriate restroom, while whinging about a white, male-dominated patriarchy at the root of a gender pay gap, while insisting that gender is fluid seem to have ZERO grasp on logic, and reason and lack the capacity to see the incoherent, and contradictory narrative that they espouse.
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It seems their capacity for logic and reason is severely stunted, which prevents them from connecting the analytical dots to reach intelligent conclusions
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Dear, women attempt it more than men do. Crazier, less competent or both? Men tend to use lethal force, so succeed more often when they do attempt it. Historically, wars were/are started by the rulers of men and women (Kings, Pharaohs, Dictators, Sultans, Amirs, Emperors, etc.) and the people had no say about it, or being conscripted into service to fight and perish
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@Maksie0 If it were natural, they wouldn't need to alter their appearance at all.
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The point is, they represent a birth defect, not another gender in the binary.
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It's only possible if there are women who are happy to indulge, and they're the one's who risk getting themselves pregnant when they do. Do they not?
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@trea9852 Gender isn't disconnected from biology. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. MANY, including you apparently-- are conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. The thing is, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and their natural body chemistry. Still men
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No, they believe they're talking to delusional people w/ mental disorders which are skewing their perception of reality
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@Madmaxw The delusions of those who operate in a dissociative state aren't limited to rational and reason, as they aren't founded in reality. They're gender pretenders with a sense of narcissism that's off the charts
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@mariec7352 Lie? It's a question. Try to focus The mother's autonomy was fully intact prior to her facilitating the creation of a new life.
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@mariec7352 A question is not a lie, and it's not a statement of fact. It's a question. You're wrong
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The patriarchy is so brilliant that biological men are now winning Women of the Year awards
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It's strange that people are confused about the differences between males and females
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Well, Abortion is wrong. Looks like you were wrong about that too
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Respect is earned, not demanded. Affirming a mental disorder as normal doesn't help the afflicted. It's entirely counter-productive
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Quit your gaslighting. There is no legislation anywhere that denies a pregnant mother, life saving care
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And? It's going to the states, where it should've in the 1st place
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@harambejr5935 You might want to look up the definition of that word. I don't think it means what you think it does. BTW, That's not any sort of refutation. You're going to have to do better than that.
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@elisadeleon3002 I hear you. The ideology's incoherent narrative is insisting that men can be women too-- not registering with those who are offended is odd
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@albusdumdledore5919 They're confused about their own sex/gender, so it's not really a surprise is it?
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They're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@helloello8343 Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can "choose" to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, don't?
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Not all Hispanics are racist. What's your excuse?
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@d.i.p4076 Truth is, stereotypes exist for a reason.
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@kay_all_the_way3074 If gender is fluid, and not biological-- Why the need/desire/proclivity to play dress up, or more drastically use surgical alterations, etc.? Aren't they already identifying as what they are? Ya, doesn't make sense The narrative suggests that gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity. Both can't be true, showing the narrative is incoherent
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@MiaSummer-cm6cy Show me someone who values life and advocates for the ability to terminate life, and I'll show you a hypocrite
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@conor.3875 Women are the standard, not the exception making the use of CIS irrelevant
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@Maksie0 Compared to what?
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They also don't get to dictate how others perceive them
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@maxbilo6191 The mother's consent to risk herself getting pregnant is what facilitated the baby growing inside her womb. She's without excuse
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@maxbilo6191 The point you're unsuccessfully attempting to evade is that sex IS the known cause of pregnancy, and choosing engage in it, is what facilitates it. Gaslight harder Your example is bogus.
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@maxbilo6191 The 'Pro'-choice you're in favor of maintaining-- is the ability to terminate the child in the womb, in the name of convenience and it's shameful. The morals and ethics of those who would declare the unborn to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are questionable-- at Best, and are those of narcissists and sociopaths.
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@Maksie0 THAT's wrong. Women who are trans, are trans men. I can't believe you haven't updated your material yet
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@markusbaker1161 No, they're men playing dress up
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@markusbaker1161 Objective reality is not up for debate. If you want to pretend that those men in dresses are women-- go for it. They're still men, regardless of their efforts to alter their appearance
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@mariec3733 The babies are dying. Duh
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Jubilee appears to be the place where psychosis and ignorance collide. Women cannot become men and men cannot become women. Oh ya-- intersex is a birth defect, not another gender-- of which there are only 2. Quit conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament with gender-- it's just incorrect. 🙄 Women cannot become men and vice versa. That state is permanently fixed
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If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? crickets 🦗🦗🦗
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@aikoxin Single dad here who did exactly that. The bio-mom wasn't in the picture from before 6 months passed, she was out of the picture. The boy is grown in his 30's now and is doing Great
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@Erik-fn7kj A book is a set of written, printed, or blank pages fastened along one side and encased between protective covers. Why do you ask? The thing is, I don't require your validation. It's your side that wishes I accept your premise and use your pronouns, so YOU need to be more persuasive. I couldn't care less about your validation, and your interactions aren't illustrating any integrity on your part, which isn't inspiring any confidence that you will up your game to an adult level, but I'll play along. Your turn
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@krasmasov6852 An adult, human, female
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@ronald3726 crickets... Cognitive Dissonance on overload
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How? Portraying oneself as something that you're not is appropriation, and the notion that others need to recognize you-- as you perceive yourself is insanely narcissistic and delusional. Pronouns are objective
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Intersex isn't another gender. It's a physiological, genetic birth defect
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@champigranja1179 That dude isn't a she or a her, he's a him and always will be
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@Maksie0 Not even close.
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@Maksie0 sux2bu. You seem to be under the impression that your desires create an obligation to comply. They don't
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It because they're inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament which are not gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys, with gender.
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@Yeltnerb 1 They're males... They aren't trans anything.
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@DefiledDame If you can't accept yourself for what you actually are, I refuse to accept you for what you actually aren't. They are misgendering themselves, and are inappropriately using pronouns.
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@mariec3733 They don't? Well then... Quit your damned sniveling about Roe vs Wade. My comments are all visible where I acknowledge the mother's life being in imminent peril, as the exception-- as does every law on the books regarding abortion. Quit your gaslighting
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@baristaz8834 I was being precise, is all. They do heavily depend on each other, for without the other-- there is eventually neither, and so procreation is consistent and required all the time
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@baristaz8834 Obviously, however; those are CLEARLY secondary considerations and the exceptions to the rule don't invalidate the rule. It proves the rule-- hence being the exceptions. The rule being: Men and Women need each other
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@tobbied No, there are not. There is a lot of conflation between 'personality traits' (which are not gender exclusive), and 'gender'.
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@Maksie0 No, it is not
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@MoonshineH You say that as if it's relevant in some way
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They teach their kids to use firearms properly, to wait to have children until they're married, and tend to have their insurance handled without tax payer subsidies. What are you talking about? The point here is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@Maksie0 Nope, that's still totally wrong
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Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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Pro choice to "have an ab0rti0n" seems to be the relevant bit you're trying to escape with a lame attempt at skewing semantics to try to make your point.
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@2balls4me All abortions result in a baby losing it's life, which is a reason to oppose abortion, as I see it
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@Maksie0 No, they're still just women-- only now they've altered their appearance to appear more like men. That doesn't make them men, in reality.
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@Maksie0 No, still women who've altered their appearance. You fail to persuade, mainly because you're just wrong-- but hey, because you can't tell the difference between men and women-- you and your opinion dismissed for obvious reasons to those who don't have difficulty deciphering the differences between males and females
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Nonsense. Respect is earned
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Not from XX to XY and vice versa it doesn't
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@Maksie0 One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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No, just No
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@Maksie0 Borders exist for a reason
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@chaoticcow4357 I'll try to break it down for you... Life is valuable, not disposable, and advocating in favor of terminating children is devoid of virtue, honor, and morality. Understanding "consequence" is a matter of comprehending Cause and Effect. Women who choose to risk themselves getting pregnant-- when choosing to facilitate it, by indulging the only act which causes their totally avoidable dilemma have no one to blame but themselves. It isn't as if they don't know they're risking pregnancy. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to something more than one of a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences? Innocent baby's shouldn't be terminated because adults can't act responsibly
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@mariec3733 I figured you for more of a troll, but I suppose bot covers it too
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Delusional people, and people who get confused over things as simple as basic biology say all sorts of things, but that doesn't make them true, correct, nor valid. Just sayin...
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It implies something else too, and your failure to acknowledge that doesn't invalidate anything and doesn't make your case. Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can "choose" to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, don't?
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@kyrstenjohnson9752 No, serious question. When speaking to someone directly you'd use their name, and certainly would not use she or her
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*Him
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@tonythomas3343 I hear you, but dude is still a dude-- and nothing is going to change that. That fool could have a surgeon alter their appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek and that isn't going to make them a real Klingon and the fact that they think it will proves they're delusional
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@chantel01c Trans women are not women, they're men. Looks like the narrative is attempting to categorize women as a social construct and they haven't made any coherent case yet-- to support that statement or to explain the logic behind it.
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@markusbaker1161 It doesn't matter... You wrote it. When questioned about it, you refused to explain the lack of logic behind your endorsement. When corrected, regarding the law, when given the legal definition of a woman YOU ignored it. When pointed out that science distinguishes the differences between the sexes, you switch to talking about social constructs, insisting that women are a social construct. That is anti-science dear. The problem you have is you and the narratives you present are wrong, and you haven't attempted to make it make sense-- when challenged on your beliefs.
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Ghouls
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@TheLegendOfRandy How was that child's life less valuable than yours or your living sibling?
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@mariec3733 Ok... now what?
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The resulting child from a rape isn't any less valuable just because one or both of their parents might be bad people.
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@hiyves9880 What? You think she's pregnant w/ an alien. Kick Rocks Fool
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@hiyves9880 BTW, intrauterine surgery on baby's in the womb-- prove your assertion absurd
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@hiyves9880 Both are human, and the fetal stage is merely a stage of human development. The fetus/baby-- is technically referred to as a fetus from week 9 until birth, so your focus seems rather irrelevant
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@erica8096 OF course there's a wide variability in personality traits and temperament (neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys)... That's why it's inappropriate to suggest those are different genders.
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I heard that the most difficult part of the procedure was having his brain removed
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@mariec3733 That's an intellectually disenfranchised conclusion. The 'No excuse' reference was regarding women who want to avoid an unwanted pregnancy, then facilitate their own dilemma-- by choosing to engage the one and only act which causes it, making it their own fault. You have many times more pending unanswered questions... than That. At this point, you have failed to justify terminating the lives of the innocent the womb.
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@firstofawll evidence??
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@murakami3602 Certainly it is one of their most important roles, for what ought to be obvious reason. You tell me, why should a male, regardless of their subjective identity-- be granted access to women's private spaces like dressing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, sports teams or prisons?
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@Maksie0 It's not for you to approve what a she finds offensive, as if she owes you an explanation that suites your standards. Besides, there's only one kind of woman and they're all born females. There's just no getting round that-- which makes the use of cis entirely irrelevant.
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@crystalcole2674 You're welcome. That fool is a straight clown, trans-activist troll who fails to comprehend that the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female
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@Maksie0 Being female is essential for womanhood
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@TallisKeeton The trans-activist narrative and ideology. Is just devoid of integrity.
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@TallisKeeton It's not true. They're wrong
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@oyleday0195 That "Disconnect" and acting upon it literally means they're trying to be something they're not
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@Maksie0 Since he was born male, how do you figure-- since ALL women are born female, without exception???
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@travisbrown6595 You're Welcome! Maksie0 is an activist f00l
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@travisbrown6595 Likely BOTH
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@dotdot6008 Why can't they? Intellectually stunted? You should've paid attention and taken a biology class instead of art. A woman is an adult, human, female. That biological status is fixed and permanent. This is not complicated nor controversial. How do you not know this?
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That dude is closer to an orc than a woman
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@MrNess-je5bf No, ALL women are born female. That dude wasn't
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@TheLegendOfRandy Non-viable fetuses are dead, get real. Get a vasectomy and your gf (as if) should get her tubes tied. You just want a free pass to act like animals free from consequences because you're narcissists. You should never procreate-- EVER
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@eveliinahannele Babies don't get in your womb by accident. You don't want them in there-- You probably should quit putting them in there. Self-control, personal accountability, and responsibility to you-- are like garlic and sunlight to a vampire. It's why you fail at life
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I'm not going to ignore what I can observe with my own eyes, and promote make believe, or cater to feelings-- by pretending that the identity of people who identify as something they're not in reality, is valid. They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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Delusional
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@faunaohneflora No-- trans women is a word used to describe men who wish they were women, so dress and act like it. Still Men
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@faunaohneflora No one cares about your subjective identity, or feelings-- counter to reality.
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@Maksie0 Stop it... There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female-- making using the cis distinction useless and thoroughly irrelevant.
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Why? Jubilee-- Where psychosis and ignorance collide. Women cannot become men and men cannot become women. Oh ya-- intersex is a birth defect, not another gender-- of which there are only 2. Quit conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament with gender-- it's just incorrect
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It's just a clump of words, that prevents the state from establishing a religion. That isn't what this is. That is what Sharia Is, Islamophobe
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@mariec3733 Birth control is a means for preventing you from getting pregnant. It doesn't always work, and you know that-- so YOU assume the risk of getting pregnant, when you're out there creating the risk you say you're desperately trying to avoid. You just want an easy pass to be promiscuous without any consequences. Well, there's no such thing. Please NEVER procreate. Get your tubes tied, since you have such a vested interest in maintaining your pursuit of promiscuity on demand
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@markusbaker1161 No trace of an explanation of why you believe what you assert they conclude to be true and accurate, or to prove what I said to be inaccurate, or to address their peers who don't agree with their position-- That's certain. Those hacks you refer to as experts are challenged by their peers in the medical community, who take issue with the ethics, treatment protocols and outcomes of those who you put your faith in. I'm done with you
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@markusbaker1161 You said trans women are women. Looks like you're saying women are a social construct, and I wouldn't put it past you dear-- you haven't made any coherent case yet-- to support that statement or to explain the logic behind it.
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@mariec3733 Ya, if the mother's life is in imminent peril, because if the mother perishes so does the baby inside of her-- as a matter of default in the VAST MAJORITY of cases. Try being relevant
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What rights?
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How many kids have you raised, who've become happy, well-adjusted, productive members of society?
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@tkoala_0745 Apparently, Not you
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You definitely do not. Being observant, I recognize that they are not that which claim to be
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Ya, that wasn't no lady. That dude is unhinged from reality
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They're men who are merely caricatures of what they wish they were
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@dragopistachio Not sure what you're quoting, but I didn't say either of those things
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@dragopistachio That, unfortunately doesn't clarify anything.
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Like the doctors that perform the procedure?
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@faisalkhan786fk I recognize that there have always been a majority of people with average IQ's, and a LOT of people even less capable than that then there are-- smart people, couple that with a sense of moral bankruptcy which is wokeism, and you have the recipe for the self-termination rate that we see, by that particular demographic
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@briannachilders772 Not as far as I'm concerned, and I'm not alone in that assessment. You fail to persuade
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And what is preventing them from establishing their own teams and leagues? Answer: Nothing whatsoever
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The ideology is incoherent. Masculinity and femininity, assertiveness, agreeableness, passivity, etc... are personality traits and aren't exclusive to gender, hence Butch females and effeminate men.
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Blossom is nothing more than another lunatic, activist agent provocateur.
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@TheLegendOfRandy You have already said you don't think life is valuable, rendering your opinion on the matter null and void. I already answered that idiocy in another thread. Are gametes alive?' The answer is unquestionably yes; The answer to the question of whether or not that makes them 'a new unique life' is clearly still, No. The nuance is important The final say on whether or not women are willing to risk themselves getting pregnant, when facilitating it-- is on women-- and that is why they have no one to blame but themselves for their avoidable self-inflicted dilemmas. Obvious to anyone with a functional prefrontal cortex... What's your excuse?? (You've been running from answering the following for a while now. Got anything yet??) How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one driven like a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences?
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There are no 'trans' ANYTHING. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're LARPing at BEST
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@ItsSchwifty There's male and female and changing your face and clothes doesn't alter that state
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@frwful Just sayin... They're men who are merely caricatures of what they wish they were, and can never be
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@nothanks1239 LOL Fair enough
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i accept that there are males and females and that condition is fixed and permanent. There are birth defects and various psych disorders which affects minorities of both segments. Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will claim to be women. They aren't 'Trans' ANYTHING. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance-- as they are after
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@BigDominoakaGerard Not if you realize that crime negatively affects the entire community
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Open a basic 6th grade biology text book, and go to the chapter on reproduction and fertilization for the science of how and when a new life begins. It doesn't take a genius
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It's 2022, and birth control isn't a secret. If you're promiscuous-- you increase the odds of achieving the avoidable.
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@eveliinahannele Birth control is a means for preventing you from getting pregnant. It doesn't always work, and you know that-- so YOU assume the risk of getting pregnant, when you're out there creating the risk you say you're desperately trying to avoid. You just want an easy pass to be promiscuous without any consequences. Well, there's no such thing. Please NEVER procreate. Get your tubes tied, since you have such a vested interest in maintaining your pursuit of promiscuity on demand
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@mariec3733 No doubt for your next hookup and opportunity to create the scenario you say you're trying to avoid. Kick Rocks Troll
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The intellectual gymnastics you put yourself through to pretend 'trans people' have a valid claim are in vain, and are full of cope. The oppressive prison you've created for yourself, only exists in your mind. If a dude in a dress is the 'woman' for you; Congratulations, you're gay-- Have at it. If you want to put on woman face and wear a dress-- have at it... It doesn't make you a woman, or entitle you to be treated as though you are. If you have a self perception (contrary to your biological reality); it doesn't make you a woman or entitle you to be treated as though you are. Too many cases of trans people incarcerated for committing crimes against women and children to ignore. Bottom line: You've failed to justify the elimination of women's rights in favor of trans rights, or to justify pretending trans women are women, or are entitled to be treated as though they are. The words 'gender' and 'dysphoria' in the term 'gender dysphoria' are very straight forward, and yet-- seem to be what you confusing to you, while you push your agenda narratives without justifying the expectation that males w/ a gender identity disconnect with their biological reality, have any business in areas designated for females
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Have you ever heard of a trans intersex person? Me neither. They've gotten it totally wrong on gender. Gender (There are 2) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Then, they inappropriately conflate gender, personality traits and temperament-- as though they're synonymous and they are not. They should learn the differences. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate male and female. Then, they conflate men and women. It's totally incoherent nonsense that they're peddling
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When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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@suchbolo5742 No they can't. The most feminine of things is the ability to give birth to new life
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@suchbolo5742 Yes, it is; Only females can give birth. Gender and sex aren't disconnected. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are conflating gender and gender roles. There are too many who are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender, as though they're synonymous-- and they are not. Hope that clarifies things for you
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition? and why then, are they attempting to normalize it and have it considered "rational"?
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@gnol89 Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can "choose" to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. Having the same efficacy rate with their preventative birth control-- What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, don't?
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Conversation Topic: Only 2 genders-- Male and Female. Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Agree? Why? Disagree? Why? Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@Ultradude1 They know... They're desperately trying to find an excuse for their continued irresponsibility and to be able to act on it w/ impunity and with no concern for the consequences
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🎯 Bullseye. 100% Correct. They're men. They aren't trans anything
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@Erik-fn7kj You know nothing
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@Erik-fn7kj ZERO evidence to support that claim.
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@Maksie0 Cis/trans, as best as I can tell, are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are. ALL women are born female, and there are exactly ZERO exceptions Why should all of society be required to participate in the LARP and cosplay as a matter of law, counter to objective reality??? To suggest such a thing seems like the height of arrogance and narcissism
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@catorimazique8659 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Gender and sex are not disconnected. They're intrinsically linked. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after. They're LARPing at BEST
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Ethertask Sebastian I'm arguing they aren't either, since from the beginning of time a woman is known as an adult, human, female.
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@becky14 There aren't ANY facts which care about your feelings. The prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female and trans women are not that. Are you able to cite any evidence that shows trans women are not biological men? I see them as synonymous
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@AFCAglory Only the m0r0ns who have difficulty deciphering the differences between men and women
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@elisen838 I'll try to break it down for you... Life is valuable, not disposable, and advocating in favor of terminating children is devoid of virtue, honor, and morality. Well, being that r@pe and incest only account for 1% of cases, some perspective is required to address the talking point. On that issue, I would point out that terminating that pregnancy doesn't undo the trauma caused by an attacker. I would also point out that terminating the life of an innocent child doesn't put aside a woman's trauma; It adds to it, an additional victim and the additional potential trauma of the ab0rti0n, experienced by women in significant numbers. Also, the value of the innocent resulting child in the womb, isn't diminished because one or both of their parents were bad. I'm under no delusion that there is a potential for a meeting of the minds, when it comes to philosophical issues about morality, such as issues like these-- which separate those who value life as something bigger than just an opportunity for self-gratification-- from those, who just don't. Women are not forced to have unprotected sex, so if you want to chase pleasure, you have to bear responsibility for the possible outcomes. No innocent life should face termination because of the lack of responsibility among adults. The 'Pro'-choice you're in favor of maintaining-- is the ability to terminate the child in the womb, in the name of convenience and it's shameful. The morals and ethics of those who would declare the unborn to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are questionable-- at Best, and are those of narcissists and sociopaths.
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@mariec7352 You're the one who keeps responding. I'm under no delusion that there is a potential for a meeting of the minds, when it comes to philosophical issues about morality, such as issues like these which separate those who value life as something bigger than just an opportunity for self-gratification-- from those like you, who just don't.
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@Maksie0 I wouldn't wish that sort of psych disorder on anyone either
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@Maksie0 No... YOU are. Sex and gender are Not disconnected. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. There's no such thing as trans ANYTHING. People are born male or female and minority segments of each are born w/ birth defects and psych disorders-- some w/ both. They're the same sex prior to having their appearance altered as they are after. Get a Clue
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The manifestation of total confusion
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Your preferences are irrelevant, regarding your gender. Gender, there are 2 male/female... That's it. Personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender
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Need asylums
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@ald6228 In order to correctly refer to someone as she, they must be female-- and those dudes aren't.
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@mariec3733 I advocate against innocent people's lives being taken, and for women being responsible-- especially regarding risking their body's w/ an unwanted pregnancy, when they're not prepared for the consequences of their actions. Regarding, what are we going to do about the foster care system being crowded: I believe that adults should be responsible for themselves, and their actions. Why don't you?
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@mariec3733 Uh huh... You seem under the impression, your comment is somehow supposed to be relevant. Newsflash: It isn't. The comments are all still there. Even when logged out, they're still visible. Try opening your eyes, is the best suggestion I can make. Feel free to hold your breath while waiting
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Elizabeth Warren cutting funding to women's family planning centers exposes your narrative as woefully ignorant and totally incorrect
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No
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@Maksie0 Clown... There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making cis ridiculous, irrelevant and useless. Your terminology is rejected
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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Your argument is not a mountain-- it's barely a mole hill. The number of incest pregnancies which are aborted are less than 1% of abortion cases, so it's not only rare-- it's EXTREMELY rare
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What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were. Transphobia is a toothless term used by activists. The problem w/ their signaling is that there's no virtue in their whinging
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@Maksie0 No, they're not though
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Not as far as I'm concerned, they aren't
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The thoughts of the intellectually disenfranchised and morally bankrupt pro-abortion crowd are invalid
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Pro abortion advocates are ghouls
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@jaydenalijah It's a term used in chemistry to describe the location of certain molecules-- one from another, and has nothing to do with gender. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the use of cis totally irrelevant and useless.
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There are NO "True" 'trans' people. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after
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@korettopun1203 You seem triggered, and in desperate need of attention. I recommend being relevant in the future. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual virtue, in any of your unhinged whinging
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@korettopun1203 How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one of a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences? Innocent baby's shouldn't be terminated because adults can't act responsibly
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@ohsnapples9885 I'll try to break it down for you... Life is valuable, not disposable, and advocating in favor of terminating children is devoid of virtue, honor, and morality. Understanding "consequence" is a matter of comprehending Cause and Effect. Women who choose to risk themselves getting pregnant-- when choosing to facilitate it, by indulging the only act which causes their totally avoidable dilemma have no one to blame but themselves. It isn't as if they don't know they're risking pregnancy. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to something more than one of a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences? Innocent baby's shouldn't be terminated because adults can't act responsibly
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It's XX,XY, Birth Defect... That's It. They were created Male and Female, and altering their appearance, and screwing up their hormones-- unnaturally, doesn't change that anymore than a surgeon who alters their appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek doesn't actually makes them a Klingon
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Y’all need more psychiatric hospitals 😂😂😂
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Yes, it's easier to fool people then to convince them they've been deceived
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The narrative suggests that gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity. Both can't be true
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@miraislam5976 Have you ever heard of an intersex trans person? Me neither
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@jynxkidd2204 Hey kid, these dudes like Blossom are the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not.
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@mariec7352 Don't forget to breathe. You're T R I G G E R E D
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@Maksie0 You seem unfamiliar with the concept of objective reality and truth. That sound you're hearing is the sound of men and women everywhere rejecting your w0ke nonsense. You don't have to believe me-- Ask Budweiser and Target
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@Maksie0 Figure out what a woman is 1st, before insisting on being misgendered as a woman.
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@Maksie0 Try to make a coherent argument for a change. There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ll born female, making the use of 'cis' totally irrelevant and useless
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@yellowtaipan-g3t The catalog of videos suggests an agenda is more likely. I'm not going to ignore what I can observe with my own eyes, and promote make believe, or cater to feelings by pretending that the identity of people who identify as something they're not in reality, are somehow valid. They're still men, or women-- respectively Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, parody of female behavior or personality traits.
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That dude is unhinged from reality
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@harpoonmcfierce9697 Not much of a refutation. You've established nothing-- and have refuted even less. The 'because you said so' standard-- has been issued ZERO credibility, and you fail to persuade. It's your side that wishes to make the case that preferred pronouns are valid, and create an obligation on the rest of the world (HA-- laughable), so you really need to do better, because right now-- my answer is No You can take a neutered dog and dress him in a dress, and he's still a male dog. Just saying... No surprise... "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell The same is true, when dealing with activist trolls, the mentally disenfranchised and quislings
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@Maksie0 If You want to integrate into society-- then remember that it's YOU, who needs to adapt, not the majority who reject your LARP and cosplay. To insist that society must play along with your counter-culture position-- makes you seem arrogant, narcissistic, self-entitled and ridiculous. You're not the center of the universe and the world isn't going to reorganize itself to accommodate your subjective feelings, contrary to objective reality. You need to develop better coping mechanisms to deal with adversity, because not everyone is going to like you, or be accommodating.
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Personality traits and temperament are not gender exclusive, that's why there are butch females and effeminate men. The ideology is incoherent
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Arguing with those idiots is like running a race in the special olympics-- even if you win-- you're still reeee-- tarded
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LOL... Half the panel are female
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Delusional Women vs men
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Calling men 'trans women', then calling them women, and calling women 'cis women' and 'trans men'... no wonder they're so confused. They seem to have convinced themselves that gender, gender roles and personality traits and temperament are synonymous and that social constructs alter biology. How is that rational?
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@neobliviscarisa650 Don't conflate social constructs with biology, which is what is being done when they say, trans women are women. It's patently absurd and totally incorrect. Women aren't a social construct; trans however, IS. Those are men Your cult narrative is rejected.
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Nonsense. You limit respect for things that are respectable, and not everything is worthy of respect. Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable That's why Sovereign nations have borders
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@Maksie0 Nothing has changed re: your ability to exercise self-control to not to risk indulging in the behavior, which leads to pregnancy
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@OdyNotebook Do you think that those baby's lives are less valuable, then the other 99% of cases that are not rape related?
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@mariec3733 Not counting rape, men absolutely cannot do that, without a woman first choosing to risk her body getting pregnant--being the fact that you constantly avoid. If she wishes to avoid a pregnancy, the power is in her decision to risk it or not to risk it.
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Exactly Correct. Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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Women that want to avoid an unwanted pregnancy, have the obligation to avoid it, as well as the means, and men aren't culpable if they fail. Those women failed themselves. How have they not?
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@mariec3733 Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@mariec3733 Talking nonsense over and over, like you do-- doesn't establish truth. Why do you dismiss the opposing medical experts and professional's assessment and their reasoning?
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@mariec3733 The vast majority of women's consent to risk their body's to a potential pregnancy is clear. Get real. It's women who risk getting pregnant, not men-- so men have different considerations than those who actually risk getting pregnant. 5 D's of avoiding personal accountability: Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive and Dodge. Only women have the power to risk or not to risk the avoidable by consenting to accept the risk or not
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@MrMamapoto The trans ideology is what's wrong w/ Blossom too
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@hell0daisy193 When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect, Psych Disorder... That's it, so take your pick. Oh, and No, intersex isn't another gender in the binary, it's a birth defect
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@brianwebberable Respect is earned, and is reserved for that which is actually respectable... It's not owed There is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female-- those dudes weren't, and aren't any kind of women.
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@scarlett7958 Intersex is a birth defect, not another gender
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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"It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell When people conflate science and science-fiction they create room for intentional confusion, leaving those who are confused without any clarity
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fyi-- Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people-- who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@Maksie0 Seethe harder
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@mariec7352 No, men don't get pregnant
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@mariec7352 If women aren't culpable for their own unwanted pregnancy, I don't see why men would be. We are after all, talking about women's unwanted pregnancy's, since it's their body's that get pregnant. Obviously, women have many more considerations, and bigger risk stakes than men do-- since men don't get pregnant. . Try to focus
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@mariec7352 Her autonomy was first and foremost-- THEN, she decided to create another life growing inside of her body, intentionally or not, but as a direct result of her risky actions. I believe that human life is precious and inherently valuable. Why don't you? (Evidenced by your desire to terminate the lives of the most innocent and vulnerable, as a matter of convenience) I just don't see anything righteous or virtuous in any of your comments.
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Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspect of being male or female, respectively. The thing is, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@ChiquitaSpeaks Why then, don't you clarify it?
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@nathanmccoy9188 You aren't the spokesperson for all that is the trans community. Get over yourself sheesh There are those in that community who insist that trans women are women-- which seems to contradict your assertion
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@nathanmccoy9188 You wrote, "nah because woman does not mean female" A woman is an adult, female, human. A female is one of two biological categories shared among ALL mammals. Hope that clears up the confusion for you-- but I'm not holding my breath
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The science vs the science-fiction the trans ideology pushes
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Intersex is a birth defect, where the individual has organs of both sexes male & female (Often non-functional) and they do not present another sex in the binary, and for that reason-- they don't invalidate the binary at all. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), with gender.
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@GratsielaLily Yet, you keep incorrectly referring to him as 'she' and 'her'.
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When they don't control their own?-- When they don't, they facilitate their own unwanted pregnancy's, is the answer to your question. In the case of women choosing to facilitate their own risk of pregnancy-- there is no one else to blame for their unwanted pregnancy-- but them, and nobody forced them to do that.
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It already exists. It's called the 'Men's room'
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@eveliinahannele The death sentence for the innocent is unjustifiable, especially from those who created the situation they wish to avoid in the 1st place.
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@markusbaker1161 I never made any such attempt. Your feelings couldn't be any less relevant, as far as I'm concerned. It appears that you're playing the part of an agitator, who's irritated that I'm not upset, but all you've done is establish your ignorance and preference to argue. I am correct, and stand unrefuted, so there's nothing for me to be upset about. You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and you've established even less, but for your preference to argue. I'm happy to argue for sport, though-- I recommend being relevant.
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Beliefs aren't the issue. The acts of consigning the innocent to have their lives terminated, in the name of convenience is the issue
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@firstofawll Evidence? Gender: There are 2, Male and female. Gender roles are social constructs-- Not gender, hence trans being a social construct-- making the statement 'trans women are women' absurd and removed from objective reality. They're men
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Was he always a bit on the nutty side?
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@GrahamChapman If the validity of one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@GrahamChapman Look, the confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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@mariec3733 Birth control is a means for preventing you from getting pregnant. It doesn't always work, and you know that-- so YOU assume the risk of getting pregnant, when you're out there creating the risk you say you're desperately trying to avoid. You just want an easy pass to be promiscuous without any consequences. Well, there's no such thing. Please NEVER procreate. Get your tubes tied, since you have such a vested interest in maintaining your pursuit of promiscuity on demand
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@nearlydone1214 No, it does not-- and it's not the focus of my position either. You're reaching Birth control is a means for preventing you from getting pregnant. It doesn't always work, and you know that-- so YOU assume the risk of getting pregnant, when you're out there creating the risk you say you're desperately trying to avoid. You just want an easy pass to be promiscuous without any consequences. Well, there's no such thing.
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@Maksie0 How is it not-- if they tell you they find it offensive, and you ignore it then continue to do it?
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Bathrooms are designed around biology, not identity
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@markusbaker1161 Urinals are utilized to accommodate more men in less space, for specifically that reason, such as with stadiums, convention centers, etc. I don't see why men who present as women or say they identify as women should be granted access to women's spaces and vice versa.
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@gudemeneely You seem to be conflating personality traits and temperament with gender and gender roles as though they're synonymous and they are not.
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If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity?
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@markusbaker1161 I'm retired, financially independent and am exactly where I planned to be. What are you talking about?
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@Maksie0 phobia... ROFL Observing that they are not that which they present themselves as has nothing to do with one's feelings about the observation. Get Real
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@MuffinEnjoyer No, not even close. Women, (ALL of them) are born female
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@samanthacino The problem with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual 'virtue'. Think deeper thoughts
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@paradise9151 "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell Expecting the capacity to connect the dots from activist trolls, or people with mental illness isn't logical or likely to achieve intelligent coherent responses
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@morningivy9006 I was expounding on choices. The fact that the world doesn't view them as they view themselves, or how they would prefer that it views them-- isn't a problem the world needs to rectify 'For' them. Just saying... Dressing up for a Comic-Con Convention doesn't actually transform human males or females into Wookies, or Klingons; Same for Drag Queens or 'Trans'-people. Still XX, or XY
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@mariec7352 If women aren't culpable for their own unwanted pregnancy, I don't see why men would be. We are after all, talking about women's unwanted pregnancy's, since it's their body's that get pregnant. Obviously, women have many more considerations, and bigger risk stakes than men do, regarding pregnancy-- since men don't get pregnant. That means, women have a larger stake and greater motivation (One would think) at preventing their own unwanted pregnancies-- than men do. . Try to focus
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Then you/women in general probably have no business filing for child support-- is your point?
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@saintshrooms9424 Is that child somehow less valuable, because one or both of their parents was bad?
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Could you be a bit more vague please?
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How do you figure he's more culpable than she is?
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@mariec3733 Women have the capacity for consent, and the ability to deny/reject a man's advances-- do they not? Well, when they do-- how is it that it is not women, who facilitate their own dilemma??
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Yes, people with emotional disorders are often confused and distraught.
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@Swede1523 By a LOT Less
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@ally462 He's "brainwashed"-- but you're not judging? Really?? Ya, ok. He uses his friend's name. Get over it
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@nathanmccoy9188 Uh huh... The flaws in your narrative are exposed. Flee if you must, but know that it undermine's whatever credibility you think you have, and relegates it to ZERO. You're going to have to do better than the, 'Because you said so' standard.
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Putting up with men portraying themselves as women, telling you how it is to be women-- while conveniently ignoring your rights???
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@markusbaker1161 While perhaps interesting to you, they are not women, and never will be-- And That point contention which revolves around biology, seems to elude your cognitive capacity.
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@markusbaker1161 You brought it up. Science has established the difference between males and females. If a male feels uncomfortable being a male and wants to pretend to be a female-- that's fine, but that doesn't make them females and it doesn't mean they should be granted access to women's private spaces. Too many are inappropriately and incorrectly conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence butch females, effeminate males and tomboys) with gender, as though they're synonymous-- and they are not.
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@markusbaker1161 :face-green-smiling: The "Fact" that some men identify as something other than men (for whatever reason) doesn't make them women. Being granted access to women's private spaces just infringes on women's rights to privacy-- and it is totally unjustified. What the rational behind that? It's the height of misogyny
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@markusbaker1161 The biological science is already established, validating my statements. The psych science validates my statements as well. Dissociative disorders are clearly defined as those involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self. 😏😮🧐
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That dude is intellectually bankrupt
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Because they're manufacturing themselves to be caricatures of real women
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I see it like they're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. I see them as LARPing
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Not from XX to XY and vice versa- it can't
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@VictoriaScachitti The incoherent narrative is inappropriately conflating the variability in temperament and personality traits (Neither of which are gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tom boys) with gender
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@VictoriaScachitti Those are MAJOR and VERY Specific differences and they're not arbitrary AT ALL. Intersex isn't another gender-- it's a birth defect/anomaly and to pretend or suggest otherwise, doesn't pass scrutiny Putting on a costume and/or changing one's appearance doesn't transcend and bypass biology. Still male or female respectively.
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That dude is unhinged from reality
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@KMFWR Exactly correct
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@Maksie0 The syndrome affects about 1 in every 4,500 newborn girls. The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule-- they prove the rule.
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@Maksie0 Not true at all. Gender and sex aren't disconnected, and too many, including you are failing to realize that gender isn't the social construct, rather gender roles are the construct-- and so too are trans-cultists a construct, based in lunacy. Cope Harder
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You spelled trans-human wrong
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Where they groom the children of others in secret? F-- That, where's the decency in that?
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@alphacharm Not persuasive at all. Not dissimilar to your disguise
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@alphacharm Best of luck w/ that cognitive dissonance
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@fennecritter Quit conflating a naturally occurring miscarriage with the intentional act of terminating the young in the womb
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@mariec3733 But it is... All that's possible is to alter their appearance. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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Adult, female, human-- just to be precise. ;) ex. An adult, female shark is not-- a woman
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@Maksie0 Intersex isn't another gender in the binary. It's a birth defect
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@thespudtato6009 Your analytical deficit and major reading comprehension fail is showing
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@thespudtato6009 You didn't ask one
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@thespudtato6009 A woman is an adult, human, female and that condition is biological, and permanent.
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@mariec3733 No, I didn't say people don't deserve any support or resources. I maintain that everyone else in the world doesn't owe you a living. That's not to say that people shouldn't be charitable, but that's are not the same thing as acting like they 'Owe' you something. People are responsible for themselves, and parents are responsible for taking care of their children-- this is not a mystery, nor a controversy. The world doesn't owe you anything, and to act like it does is the height of arrogance and self-entitlement
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@mariec3733 Really? Ok... Where's my check?? According to you and your philosophy-- You owe me my fair share of what you earned. None of what you assert is correct. Why do You believe that government assistance and support is the key to a happy and healthy life? What evidence do you have to support that?
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If you identify as a 115 lb fitness model, yet weigh in excess of 250 lbs-- and expect others to recognize you as you perceive yourself-- You're DELUSIONAL too
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That dude is unhinged
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Is it not the trans-activists who insisting that others participate in their LARP and cosplay by insisting that people deny objective reality and use preferred pronouns contrary to objective reality? I mean... C'mon
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@bredoslow8166 Not functionally, it isn't. A birth defect isn't another gender in the binary
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Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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We're suppose to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe? Why?? Renaming a male or a female 'trans', doesn't make him/her something else, and neither does his/her quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of male or female behavior traits, as the case may be. I mean... C'mon now. It's ludicrous
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Your mind is so open, your brain fell out. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female
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@Maksie0 It's a social construct. Of course, it's a choice to alter one's appearance
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Not a shocker that women sound like women though
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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Never stopped being females
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@Maksie0 They're women, who've altered their appearance, nothing more
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@Erik-fn7kj Transmen are women in an elaborate disguise pretending to be that which they can never be-- 'Men'
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@eveliinahannele They have had unfettered access for a long time, and men weren't exempt-- So, you're wrong. No one is forcing women to risk unwanted pregnancy. Other than a rape scenario, which is 1% of cases-- Women, are the ones who need to exercise control over their own body's to prevent and avoid their own "unwanted" pregnancies, in the other 99% of cases, 100% of the time-- because after come the consequences of their actions, which create a new life, and women know it.
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@Anon Ymous Women are the gatekeepers, and may choose to facilitate their risk of an unwanted pregnancy, and when they do-- they have no one but themselves to blame
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@Anon Ymous The biology isn't a mystery, but the responsibility to avoid their avoidable unwanted pregnancy falls to women, as they're the one's who risk pregnancy. Your failure to comprehend logic and avoid the fact that women are responsible for their choices to risk their pregnancy is noted
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@TheLegendOfRandy I see no evidence that you've done anything to make anything better. What have you done?
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@TheLegendOfRandy You've done nothing to help anyone but yourself, your entire life. I was referring to the OP's post, re: making things better/battling the problem of unwanted pregnancy's. I advocate that women who wish to avoid unwanted pregnancy's should actually avoid them, and by doing so-- they are being responsible. I advocate that adults should be responsible for their actions. I advocate that the innocent shouldn't face termination, and that their lives are valuable. You seem to advocate in favor of a consequence free world. Ya, that doesn't exist
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@mariec7352 Not sure what you're rambling about now. That's all wrong, but looking at the rest of your comments, no one would expect anything different much less relevant from you. buh bye
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@TheLegendOfRandy Women who don't wish to conceive unwanted pregnancy, shouldn't be risking it because after come the consequences of a new life, and they know that-- so don't pretend they're being forced.
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@TheLegendOfRandy Does a woman who isn't pregnant, and doesn't want kids, have the obligation to herself, and ability to remain that way?
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@mariec7352 I'd appreciate it if you didn't spam me in your mental breakdown comments
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@mariec7352 Ask your dad.
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@mariec7352 Ask your dad to explain the replies to you, in the comment section and point out how what you're doing is combining a tu coque, and projection and yet still failing to make your case, indicates perhaps you find a better use of your time and save yourself further embarrassment.
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@ToTheMaxGaming1 That's not much of an argument either. Is that the best you've got? Really? You've failed to persuade, or make your case
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@markusbaker1161 You failed to prove your claim. You've certainly not proven anything I've written to be false or inaccurate. The 'because you said so' standard is rejected
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Men vs Women
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Understatement of the year
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I said that. The sound of women and men rejecting the trans ideology, and terminology for the nonsense that it is is growing to be deafening. Just ask Bud light
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@krasmasov6852 And when that attitude is aimed at 'your' narrative, then what?
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I don't have faith that he has the intellectual capacity to decipher reality from fantasy
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@markusbaker1161 Trans being the construct... based in fantasy That's what
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@markusbaker1161 Not me. They're the ones saying gender is merely a social construct. I know that gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, and that male and female are fixed and permanent biological categories.
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@markusbaker1161 There's no hate involved in recognizing that they aren't that which they claim to be-- it's just being observant. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. Cope Harder
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They do-- it's called the men's room ;)
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@olivia25144 Rape victims only make up 1% of abortion cases. Get a Clue
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Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian futures-- they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim to be women-- and they don't even see it coming.
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Virtue signaling... Ignorance about pronouns, oh... the list is long. The problem with their virtue signaling is the absence of any actual virtue in any of their unhinged whinging
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Terminating the life of an innocent child doesn't put aside a woman's trauma. It adds to it
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@firstofawll Of course it is. It literally means, the unborn young
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@mariec7352 Those are the very things you're advocating in your tone deaf comments. THAT seems odd to me, that you seem to have a negative take on the things you're in favor of
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@mariec7352 I thought you were done wasting your time? lol You're the one advocating the things you mentioned, not me. I know it's difficult for you, but try to discern the difference between avoiding an unwanted pregnancy and avoiding sex. They're not mutually exclusive of one another. Use your imagination (Giving you the benefit of the doubt here) You lose
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They are quite literally not 'trans' ANYTHING. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after.
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I don't think anyone is saying any of that. They're saying, if you're not ready/prepared to start a family, you have no business risking starting a family. Pregnancy is a natural, biological function of sex and women know that they're risking it, when they consent to indulge in sex with men-- so they really have no business blaming anyone but themselves-- for consenting to the risk, and achieving the avoidable. Punishing the innocent for the actions of another-- especially those who created their own dilemma in the 1st place, is totally unjustifiable
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Almost... a Godless society, or rather-- one where they worship anti-Christ over the Creator is the main predicament
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Weird... There are only males and females. I don't know how that can be confusing to anyone. The prerequisite to being a female is being born female and those dudes weren't. A dude in a dress and makeup doesn't make him a woman
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@eveliinahannele Still a human life, who's brain and consciousness will continue to develop throughout it's life time. I'm under no delusion that there is a potential for a meeting of the minds, when it comes to philosophical issues about morality, such as issues like these which separate those who value life as something bigger than just an opportunity for self-gratification-- from those like you, who just don't.
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@mariec7352 The 'because you said so' standard has been issued exactly ZERO credibility. When asked by HK 4lyfe if you believe all life is valuable -- you said, "All human life? Definitely not. Lol. Have you seen the world lately? I think it's only valuable if we make it just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of than we do to simply enforce more births, which we do not." No worries. I don't expect you to admit to the truth, as you've lied about things I've said many many times, and the comments are all there to validate what I'm saying. I mean it isn't as if you haven't proven that you argue and agitate at every opportunity for sport, while disingenuously engaging in what I'd compare to a phone scammer's ethics, with a politician's evasiveness, failing to ever directly answer a question honestly. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Just pointing out the incoherent things you've said-- and you are desperate to avoid it-- The truth is not subject to your admission, nor your denial. You writing that not all lives are valuable, qualifying-- "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of" (in other words) unless they are sufficiently charitable to a level of your satisfaction, is patently absurd and the amount of ego behind that is unreal. Your narcissism is off-the-hook.
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@mariec3733 🙄 I, unfortunately can't help you with your reading comprehension challenges or your cognitive dissonance. Fortunately, for those who are actually interested, and who don't have your particular challenges-- the comments are still there for their review.
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@mariec3733 How is it anyone else's obligation or responsibility, beside the woman herself, to avoid facilitating her own unwanted pregnancy??? A man's opinion is irrelevant. If she chooses to avoid risking an unwanted pregnancy, he's got nothing to say about it that matters.
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Where do they exist, besides in the Twilight Zone?
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@TheLegendOfRandy Your commitment to intellectual vacancy is noted, and it's why I dismissed you long ago. Perhaps you might consider a refresher 5th grade science class. You can focus on biology and the fertilization process and what that means.
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@mariec7352 And yet-- there's not even a trace of evidence of you making a coherent argument anywhere, justifying terminating the innocent.
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@mariec3733 Snarky... You do a lot of that, but it's not an argument. I advocate against innocent people's lives being taken, and for women being responsible-- especially regarding risking their body's w/ an unwanted pregnancy, when they're not prepared for the consequences of their actions. I believe that adults should be responsible for themselves. Why don't you?
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@elenamarkicevic9673 Guys don't risk their bodies getting pregnant, and that fact seems to be the main point which you and your analysis and conclusions-- don't seem to factor in to your equation. That leads to faulty reasoning. If a woman doesn't want to risk pregnancy, a guy's opinion is irrelevant-- same as if she doesn't mind risking it. She chooses to risk her body autonomy with an unwanted pregnancy, she can do that. Now, it isn't the smartest plan ever conceived, if avoiding a pregnancy is a priority. Women have ALL the power and control to avoid unwanted pregnancy. It's really not complicated at all. To presume that a guy cares, or should care as much or more than a woman does, if she chooses to risk getting pregnant doesn't make sense. Just look at the number of single mothers, and realize making bad choices have severe consequences.
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@mariec3733 Yes, devaluing. Where? Wherever you advocate in favor of their life's termination as though it's justifiable, if the mother's life isn't in imminent peril.
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@mariec3733 Men can't cause anything without a woman consenting 1st, is apparently a concept that still eludes you. Your efforts to evade and ignore the culpability that women who don't wish to risk an unwanted pregnancy have to prevent their own totally avoidable dilemma-- is in vain
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@johnthumble5154 Looks like they're an activist troll with no integrity
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@eveliinahannele It's quite literally the opposite of taking responsibility for the consequence of her actions which created a new unique life growing in her body. It's totally avoiding that, not taking accountability for that
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@bacongritty I am merely making the observation that women are the one's who choose to risk themselves getting pregnant, and that the power to avoid an unwanted pregnancy is ALL up to them. How is that not totally accurate?
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Apparently not when you're attention-seeking. The problem they have with their virtue signaling, is the absence of any actual "Virtue"
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If someone rests the entire value of their existence based on their appearance, how is that not pathetically shallow?
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Nope... Its merely an anomaly/birth defect-- not another gender.
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@sbm9190 It's neither nice or not nice. It's merely a scientific, objective observation of reality-- exposing the intellectual deficit associated with the narrative of those suggesting otherwise
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Cry harder. No one is denying anyone's existence. The issue is denying that they are that which they claim to be. Try to focus
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@mariec3733 Endorsing abortion in the case of rape or incest implied, imo-- in the OP's original comment- that the resulting child's life must be of lesser value- How was it not?
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@mariec3733 ALL of my replies to you are there, and are visible even when logged out. You need some better material. Since you've admitted that you can actually read my comment, it appears that you have a reading comprehension deficit causing you difficulty again. Bottom Line: You are in favor of a woman having the option to terminate the life of her innocent offspring in the womb. I don't, unless her life is in imminent peril. What more needs to be addressed?
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@mariec3733 I have always maintained the exception of the mother's life being in imminent peril. I already answered that question in another post. You must've either misunderstood the answer or missed it, reading with your eyes slammed shut once again. Well, here's the same answer, "Not possible by myself. I certainly didn't do most of the heavy lifting as it were-- regarding the pregnancy's gestation period or delivery. Why do you ask? Do you think it would've been possible without a woman 1st consenting to risk getting herself pregnant? NEWSFLASH: It is Not" My answers stand up to scrutiny. Yours do not.
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@mariec3733 I have never heard of a male creating a child by themselves, without a woman involved in the process. Have you? Well... Have you? Answer: No, you have not. All of your nonsense just to attempt to pretend a woman doesn't have any culpability for their choices to risk pregnancy, as if they had no control to avoid an unwanted pregnancy (Obviously not talking about a rape).
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@mariec3733 Thanks for the confirmation that what I wrote above is correct, and exposes your agenda as foolish nonsense
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@mariec3733 You appear very confused about a lot of basic stuff. Humans require males and females to reproduce. It isn't an either or scenario, and males cannot accomplish pregnancy by themselves. How do you not know this? You're ridiculous. I advocate against innocent people's lives being taken, and for women being responsible-- especially regarding risking their body's w/ an unwanted pregnancy. I believe that adults should be responsible for themselves. Why don't you?
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No, it isn't. They typically have biological traits of both male and female as the ONLY options. The exceptions to the rule do not disprove nor invalidate the rule-- they prove the rule as (The binary), by being the exceptions. Intersex is a birth defect not another gender in the binary
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That dude is unhinged from reality and isn't any kind of 'she'. There's only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female
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What's the Zip code in Fantasyland? It's XX, XY, Birth Defect, Mental illness-- That's it
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@Maksie0 Not about the fact that trans women are men
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@markusbaker1161 According to what source. I would argue that it's ONLY a valid claim if it is a fact
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@markusbaker1161 So you say, however; science recognizes the fact that all mammals are male and/or female, while medicine acknowledges the differences between the sexes, and the Black's Law dictionary defines a woman as an adult, human female.
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@elenawilliams32 transgender women are men
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@mariec7352 I'm not the one advocating in favor of ab0rti0n, while trying and failing to justify it... That would be You. Quit projecting Is that what the other voice in your head told you, while you were contemplating how to justify terminating the innocent in the womb?? I appreciate the opportunity to expose you and your hollow, morally repugnant character as an agitator/troll playing the part of a fool-- and fatally flawed narratives for what they are... Virtue Free. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual 'Virtue' in any of your anti-social, intellectually hollow and morally bankrupt whinging. Well, my comments are visible, exposing your intellectually vacant analysis, as totally baseless, and exposing you as nothing more than an agitator who's not very persuasive-- failing to make your case or refute anything I've written. You fail
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@Maksie0 'Cisgender' is a cult term used to pretend that there's another kind of woman other than those born female--BUT, there isn't. ALL women are born female. There are exactly ZERO exceptions
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@eveliinahannele Links??
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@eveliinahannele Then, you're being censored. Try logging out and visiting the comment section. Do you still see your links?
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@eveliinahannele Have you figured it out yet?
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@mariec3733 Not my job to prove the claim that someone else makes. The burden of proof is on them.
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@mariec3733 Nonsense. You've proven nothing. How come you fail to recognize the autonomy of the child's body-- that the mother created with her choice to engage in the one and only act which caused the unwanted pregnancy?
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@mariec3733 Well, now you've finally proven something, but it's that Thomas Sowell is accurate about people like you, when he said, "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance". You're Dismissed as less than useless. You've established nothing relevant and have refuted even less.
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@edgar5814 LARPing at BEST
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You seem to have difficulty discerning the difference between fantasy and reality
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@knithearts There's no hate involved in recognizing that people are not that which they claim to be. It just makes me observant When your feelings are easily hurt, just cope harder. The world doesn't give a crap about you or your feelings. It will be here long after you're gone.
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@knithearts Calm down. Quit pretending you don't know how an app notification works. I see a notification, and I've responded. No worries. Not really a surprise. YOU, and those on your side of the argument have failed to persuade or refute anything I've written. Seems to me like I'm watching the cognitive dissonance short-circuit your thinking process and/or I'm exposing the shallow depth of the narratives which I challenge-- evidenced by no one actually refuting ANYTHING I've written or answering anything I've asked. The problem I find with the virtue signaling, is the total absence of any actual virtue in any of the unhinged claims the advocates are making. Like I said, If the validity of one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@TheLegendOfRandy How smart are the women who risked themselves getting pregnant w/ an unwanted pregnancy? Just sayin...
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OR More likely... they'll figure out what the millions of other women who effectively plan their family's and effectively utilize their preventative birth control know-- they they obviously don't. I recommend you do some research and try to figure that out
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@marissamate Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can "choose" to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, don't?
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@marissamate That's not an answer to my question. Biologically yes, it takes 2, however; Women are the ones who are the gatekeepers to granting men access in the 1st place, and have all the power to avoid their own unwanted pregnancy's, and therefore the obligation to themselves to avoid facilitating them.
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@marissamate What do you think the women who plan their family's effectively and utilize their preventative birth control know, that the others-- who have difficulty with their family planning and their preventative birth control, don't? Answering that relevant question seems to cause you trauma and difficulty, so much so that you avoid it like the plague and run away instead of answering it, showing you to have no integrity. Shocker /S
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@marissamate You got nuthin but virtueless virtue signaling and ad hominem attacks. You're not even as deep as a baby spoon, but act like you're as deep as the ocean. Get a clue
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@marissamate You say that, but you don't squat about what kind of person I am. I raised my now 32 yo son from the time he was born-- without his bio-mom in the picture. Why can't you be responsible for yourself?
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@UC7qGUeP5tKsm3O7yvhQNUdw If you had an ounce of integrity, or a coherent explanation you'd answer my question. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, and an opportunity, but you're insisting on proving me correct about your character-- illustrated by your lack of integrity, intellectual deficit and Moral Bankruptcy
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@marissamate You incorrectly presume a lot, and seem to be incapable of recognizing and addressing that which is relevant and seem to favor avoiding personal responsibility, ad hominem attacks, ducking bobbing and weaving from addressing relevant questions posed to you, because you have no integrity and an incoherent argument and fail to justify terminating the innocent in the womb
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@Maksie0 The logic it takes to say that someone who has a host of other behavioral/mental disorders (as nearly all dealing with transgenderism do) and is willing to mutilate themselves in irreversible fashion to achieve a status wherein they're still dozens of times more likely to commit sui**de ISN'T mental illness, is amazingly twisted. Insert any other condition and any other incessant desire to self-harm and there would be no dispute whatsoever.
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Charming
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@TheLegendOfRandy What are you rambling on about? The focus of the topic is women dealing with unwanted pregnancies and the solutions to avoid those unwanted pregnancies. None of your comments seem to address the only real relevant focus. Bottom Line: Women are in charge of their own body's and the risks they're willing to take, regarding avoiding and facilitating their own unwanted pregnant condition, and they have all the power, opportunity and information on how to do that.
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@draculacousin You are not forced to have unprotected sex, if you want to chase pleasure, you have to bear responsibility for the possible outcomes. No innocent life should be terminated due to the lack of responsibility among adults. Like I said, I'm under no delusion that there is a potential for a meeting of the minds, when it comes to philosophical issues about morality, such as issues like these, which separate those who value life as something bigger than just an opportunity for self-gratification-- from those like you, who just don't.
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@mariec3733 How is it anyone else, beside the woman herself's responsibility, to avoid facilitating her own unwanted pregnancy???
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@draculacousin Well... That's not much , in the way of relevance. You tell me, How is it anyone else's responsibility, beside the woman herself's responsibility, to avoid facilitating her own unwanted pregnancy???
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Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then your identity is not valid.
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@crankheart They're a troll, and have proven that their shoe size dwarfs their IQ
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@Erik-fn7kj Do I? Such as??
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Where psychosis and ignorance collide, clarity is seldom found-- and your comment proves it. Women cannot become men and vice versa
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@Bound2chaos2 If it was a song, It'd be called the Groomer's Shuffle
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@Maksie0 It's a slur, as the only kind of woman is born female, making the use of cis entirely ridiculous
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@miksaneksmind4399 Seems more like the woman is using it as a form of birth control, since it is she who's risking getting pregnant, no?
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@miksaneksmind4399 Well, she'd be the one with the final say on whether she chooses to risk getting herself pregnant or not, by indulging -- so it seems logical to me that she has more culpability in the matter
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@eveliinahannele If both parties agree before sex, that a pregnancy is unwelcome-- and a pregnancy occurs and she decides to keep it, as opposed to giving it up for adoption or aborting it-- OK, but she gets no expectation of child support either yes? I know there are cases where women didn't tell the guy that she was pregnant w/ his child, but either way-- She still is in charge of risking getting pregnant by indulging in sex
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@christibrown5956 That's something a toxic feminist would say
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@mariec3733 IF they're separate then you acknowledge that trans women aren't biological women-- they're still biological men-- how do you justify ignoring women's rights to privacy by granting men access to their private spaces??
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1. There's nothing phobic about recognizing that they are not that which they claim. That just makes people, observant of objective reality. 2. They can dress up perversity as diversity, but they're only fooling themselves, if they think their self perceived fantasy is representative of reality-- in ANY way. 3. When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. 4. Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. 5. They're still the same sex and gender prior to surgery, as they are after surgery. 6. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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The choice/decision to risk your own totally avoidable unwanted pregnancy, when you facilitate it by engaging in the 1 and only act which actually causes your dilemma-- is fully in tact. Make better choices, because after-- come the consequences.
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Farmers raise hens (not roosters) for their eggs!!!! The farmers, the chickens (the roosters and hens) can tell the difference between the males and females-- to what do you attribute the confusion between so many about something so basic?
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2 genders... That all. They're not "trans" anything. Still Human, Still Male or Female as they were when they were born, respectively -- just what amounts to an elaborate disguise in the gender binary-- more akin to a drag queen
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Their 'truth' is an illusion and isn't based in reality-- making it a lie. They're imposters
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"the woman whose body it's violating"?? The woman facilitated her own avoidable pregnancy. The baby growing in her didn't make her create it
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@Maksie0 What's your point?
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@korettopun1203 The attacker did that, and it's horrible. Terminating the life of the innocent child however, doesn't undo the assault
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@sthepcorms6747 The child isn't any less valuable. Get real
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@eveliinahannele It would be more comparable to driving in a car that you know was specifically design to crash itself and then crashing. Abortion is the total opposite of taking responsibility. Knowing that birth control fails, mostly due to incorrect usage-- women assume the risk of achieving the avoidable when they indulge their promiscuity
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The fertilization process, the human developmental gestational cycles and reproduction aren't a mystery, And... there's no one suggesting that when a mother's life is in imminent peril, that life saving efforts should not be undertaken. Quit gaslighting
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The trans-activist ideological, cult, narrative poisons minds.
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@entropy7999 LOL... What do they think they're transitioning to then? It's XX, XY, birth defect or evidence that a psych evaluation and treatment commence immediately, if not sooner. That's It! If some mentally deluded individual identifies as a Pony, it doesn't make it true. I don't care how deeply they believe it. You can put a castrated dog in a dress, and it's still a male dog. Just sayin... You're attempting to rename personality traits-- "gender", and that's wrong too. FYI, Science is not a consensus. People with gender dysphoria are supposedly ex. a woman trapped in a male body and their male gender being immutable, is the justification for such a radical procedure-- seems to destroy your claim rather thoroughly.
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@entropy7999 My argument is that your narrative is incoherent. You say gender isn't tied to biology, yet insist that the girl trapped in a boys body has an immutable male identity. Renaming personality traits gender is incorrect as well
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@haleski.gaming Requiring everyone else in the world to validate one's subjective feelings as objective fact, by disregarding objective reality is just pitifully delusional and sad and it isn't how you treat someone with a mental illness. When "trans-women" are insisting that they ARE 'women'-- NO, they are not. They can't even define woman. They're free to identify as a deity, but that doesn't make it so... It makes them delusional, or narcissistic or BOTH
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@geraldbrooks8507 There are human people. People are mammals. Mammals are all male or female, respectively. ALL women are born female, and all men are born male. There are exactly ZERO exceptions, making the use of cis/trans intellectually vacant and irrelevant.
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@seeyouallintherapy Gender dysphoria is a distressing condition. We have known for a long time that it is associated with other psychiatric disorders such as depression, and increased rate of self-delete attempts. The surgery and medical treatment is not perfect. It is thus not surprising that this group of patients will continue to suffer from stress-related psychiatric disorders. There might be lingering professional and relational problems. It is also possible (but unproven) that gender dysphoria is somehow etiologically related to depression. In that case, fixing the first with a cure would not automatically fix the latter.
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@mariec3733 Who risked, then facilitated them being in there?
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@jupiterfox7683 Tolerance?? I tolerate them. I just refuse to participate in their delusion, by validating their caricature of a persona,as though it's based in reality
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@haunteddreams7856 Their 'truth' is an illusion and isn't based in reality, making it a lie. They're imposters
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That is the root character trait of their existence
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@markusbaker1161 Guess? You do a lot of that, and then convince yourself that your 'guesses' are fact based, and correct. LOL The only ones fooled into thinking your talking points have merit, is you and yours-- the vast vast minority-- that you are
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That dude is a dude, and will always be a dude
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@mariec3733 The 'norm'. You act as though society, and the roles men and women play in it hasn't already been established for millennia.
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@markusbaker1161 You're incorrectly and inappropriately mistaking observations of comments by women, with opinions about their comments-- again.
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Well, being that r@pe and incest only account for 1% of cases, some perspective is required to address the talking point. On that issue, I would point out that terminating that pregnancy doesn't undo the trauma caused by an attacker. I would also point out that terminating the life of an innocent child doesn't put aside a woman's trauma; It adds to it, an additional victim and the additional potential trauma of the ab0rti0n, experienced by women in significant numbers. Also, the value of the innocent resulting child in the womb, isn't diminished because one or both of their parents were bad. I'm under no delusion that there is a potential for a meeting of the minds, when it comes to philosophical issues about morality, such as issues like these-- which separate those who value life as something bigger than just an opportunity for self-gratification-- from those, who just don't. Women are not forced to have unprotected sex, so if you want to chase pleasure, you have to bear responsibility for the possible outcomes. No innocent life should face termination because of the lack of responsibility among adults.
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@antonellarokutin1631 Relevance?
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@MA-ou2dk According to your parameters, neither is an adult who's in a coma
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@ananyavallurupalli673 The universe doesn't care about your feelings regarding God's design of how conception occurs in nature
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The child which is in the womb, is there because the mother facilitated herself becoming pregnant, when choosing to risk an unwanted pregnancy, by engaging in the one and only act which causes her totally avoidable, self-inflicted dilemma. How smart is that? I can name that tune in no notes (Not at all smart) Women are not forced to have unprotected sex, so if you want to chase pleasure and take that stance, that men should have no opinion or say--, Then YOU have to bear responsibility for the possible outcomes, and should probably QUIT trying to blame men for your self-inflicted dilemmas and own it. No innocent life should face termination because of the lack of responsibility among adults. The 'Pro'-choice you're in favor of maintaining-- is the ability to terminate the child in the womb, in the name of convenience and it's shameful. The morals and ethics of those who would declare the unborn to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are questionable-- at Best, and are those of narcissists and sociopaths.
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How smart is she, if she knows that she doesn't want to risk a pregnancy, then chooses to engage in the one act that actually causes it, without taking preventative precautions? If a pregnancy should occur-- it's her fault for choosing to risk it
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@TheLegendOfRandy Why would they implant a portion of a liver from someone with a known genetic disorder, into someone who is suffering from that same disorder? You're Terrible at using metaphors, and analogies. What does any of that have to do with a woman's power and control to avoid an avoidable unwanted pregnancy, regardless of a man's concerns? Bottom Line: You are in favor of a woman having the option to terminate the life of her innocent offspring in the womb. I'm not, unless her life is in imminent peril. What more needs to be addressed?
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@mariec3733 LOL...A woman is not relieved of her culpability simply because you choose to ignore the fact that it's her body that she risks getting pregnant when she chooses to engage in the one and only act which risks herself getting pregnant. Again, How smart is she, if she knows that she doesn't want to risk a pregnancy, then chooses to engage in the one act that actually causes it, without taking preventative precautions? If a pregnancy should occur-- it's her fault for choosing to risk it
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Ya, that's not another gender-- it's a birth defect. It's XX, XY, Birth defect. That's all there is
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A lack of asylums does seem to be a problem
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@pop_culturist How does Islam view women's rights, specifically on abortion?
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@pop_culturist You brought religion up. How do the 2 differ, regarding women's rights?
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@matt1325 I know their arguments better than they do. They're so transparently predictable, and emotionally reactive 'Karens'
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@heyhey8528 That refutes exactly nothing whatsoever, however; they usually present with a dominant functional sex organ, and are often infertile, and none are an example of a being a specimen which can self impregnate or has both male and female functional reproductive organs.
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@heyhey8528 The number of births where the baby is intersex has been reported to be as low as 0.018% or as high as roughly 1.7%, depending on which conditions are counted as intersex. The number of births with ambiguous genitals is in the range of 0.02% to 0.05%.
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@heyhey8528 It is, because it's biological defects which present exactly ZERO positive benefit to suggest a spectrum invalidating the binary, especially considering that they only EVER present with male or female organs... Not another sex invalidating the binary
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@heyhey8528 They aren't trans anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. Do you have ANY evidence to suggest anomalies of chromosomal variance other than XX, or XY from a a significnt number of those who are diagnosed w/ gender dysphoria?
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@heyhey8528 Cope harder. You've refuted nothing whatsoever
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@heyhey8528 Schizophrenic people and people with multiple personality disorders 'Feel' like they're based in reality too, even though they aren't either
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@heyhey8528 Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament between males and females (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@heyhey8528 So, that's a no-- you have no evidence that the numbers you're talking about are significant enough to substantiate your conflation of physical issues w/ psych issues?? Answer: No, you do not
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@heyhey8528 The older term for this condition is hermaphroditism. Although the older terms are still included in this article for reference, they have been replaced by most experts, patients, and families. Increasingly, this group of conditions is being called disorders of sex development (DSD's). So, you're wrong about that too
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@heyhey8528 Yes-- you are, but no worries, I'm not trying to persuade you to change your mind. I know that "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance". -- T. Sowell Look it up for yourself Medline . gov
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@heyhey8528 That doesn't make it another gender invalidating the binary of ALL mammalian species, and with negative side affects such as infertility it clearly isn't an evolutionary step forward, now is it?
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@heyhey8528 The negative affects of the condition Do. The nuance is important
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@heyhey8528 Still conflating physical anomalies w/ psych conditions. Not surprising. Like I said, too many-- including you are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament w/ gender. Gender and sex are not disconnected. Bottom line, Men cannot become women and vice versa. All they're doing is altering their appearance.
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I accept that there are males and females and segments of each present with physical disorders, defects, abnormalities, as well as a variety of psych disorders-- Some with both.
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@Maksie0 It denigrates real women, by suggesting that there is another kind of woman, other than those born female-- And there isn't
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@Maksie0 Simple minded, perhaps-- but that's about it. All men are born male. Trans men are women with issues, pretending that they're men without issues-- Still women
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Sure there is. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. People are male or female. They both have segments which present w/ birth defects and others with various psych disorders, some w/ both. They aren't trans ANYTHING. They're the same sex/gender prior to surgery altering their appearance and chemistry, as they are after. All they're doing is altering their appearance.
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The fact that the self-delete rates today are higher than they were prior to the implementation of affirmation-based treatment, and even after transition-- are nearly 40% higher than the general population, doesn't illustrate efficacious results, and on that basis I question the claims of the course of treatment being efficacious, as well as the ethics of those who endorse and perform those procedures. The entire trans-activist ideological narrative is incoherent and falls into the realm of science-fiction, and pseudo-science-- and doesn't rise to the level of actual science If 4 out of 10 parachutes fail, smart people wouldn't go skydiving, and it wouldn't be a surprise if those that did, went splat. People with psych issues, so severe that they contemplate and attempt to self-delete-- aren't exactly well-balanced people, by default.
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Scrotey McBoogerballs "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance."-- T. Sowell
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That's the thing with objective reality... It's how science works. The confusion of those who mistake fact from fiction, and fantasy from reality doesn't obligate the world to deny objective reality, or to participate in their subjective LARP and/or cosplay, as though it's based in objective reality.
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@N8Dulcimer I just laugh at your confused, indoctrination. You look and sound ridiculous. There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are
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@Maksie0 They're still men, and suggesting otherwise is what's absurd. They are not women and discerning fact from fantasy isn't being phobic.
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@markusbaker1161 You accusing me of doing what you are doing does not withstanding scrutiny. Your obsession with allowing men into women's spaces, because you switch calling men to calling them trans-- is totally absurd.
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@markusbaker1161 Your advocacy that men who identify as women ARE women-- looks rather obsessive to me. BTW, They're not Either way, neither your acceptance, agreement nor admission is required.
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@markusbaker1161 You can refer to them as cupcake if you so choose; They're still men who've merely altered their appearance. You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and have not justified in any way-- allowing men to infiltrate women's private places, because of their subjective identity claims. Why do you hate, and disrespect women so much?
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They're Not trans ANYTHING. Still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are-- after they alter their appearance.
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@Milo-nr9kc So have many others. Neither you nor anyone else have refuted it. The thing is, the world doesn't give a crap about your feelings. It will be here long after you're gone, so if your feelings are easily hurt-- Cope Harder! Life's not fair
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@Milo-nr9kc Wrong guy. That was the OP. I have NEVER said that. For people who, according to you-- don't have hurt feelings, you all sure do a lot of whining as though you do. BTW, there's no hatred involved in recognizing that they are not that which they claim to be. It's just being observant of objective reality. Again, that wasn't a refutation.
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@Milo-nr9kc I'm not acting. You've refuted nothing about anything I've written, and neither has anyone else. Mainly because, I am correct-- and my assessment of the ideological narratives being incoherent, at BEST, is obvious to those with a functioning prefrontal cortex and an IQ above an Arctic room temperature. Those for whom you advocate, expect the world to perceive them as they perceive themselves, contrary to objective reality. How is that not a dissociative state illustrating delusion??? 🦗🦗🦗
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@Maksie0 trans-women are men-- so obviously not
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@markusbaker1161 So? That doesn't make them something other than men, and you seem to take issue with that. Gender and sex aren't disconnected. They're intrinsically linked. Gender isn't a social construct. Gender refers to the sex assigned/observed at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Gender roles are the social construct.
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Yup. The problem with the trans activist ideological narratives is that life is based in objective reality, and the vast majority of people don't have difficulty deciphering the differences between reality and the trans imagination. Gender (There are only 2 male/female). Too many conflate gender with personality (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tom boys), and with gender roles (Which vary from culture to culture, country to country, and society to society and without exception they ALL relate to the roles of males and females in those cultures, societies, and countries which all have long-established cultural norms, as though they're all synonymous-- and they are not. What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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@Maksie0 Evidence?
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The government/the tax payers aren't your daddy, your baby sitter, nor your financier. "Socialism in general, has a history of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it"..-- T. Sowell
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@mariec3733 How does suggesting that people who aren't prepared to have a family, get prepared before doing so-- equate to (In your mind), "Wanting people to be born without any help, supporter assistance with their lives"?
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@Maksie0 That's not a refutation AT ALL. You really need to do better than making triggered statements
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Cry harder... There are males and females... That's it. There is no trans. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after. Same
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@Maksie0 You try so hard to avoid the truth that men can't become women. Cope Harder
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@dowon_btw Transphobic is an activist cult term used to distract, and shut down scrutiny, which exposes the incoherent nonsense they are selling
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@Maksie0 No genius, ALL men are born male, and those women are still women-- regardless of their LARP and cosplay
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@eveliinahannele It's consent to the risk of pregnancy
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@eveliinahannele When you chose to run out into the middle of on-coming traffic, absolutely. How, in that situation would it not be? Consent to risky action is in fact-- consent to the risk
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I agree. The car analogy that some are using is ridiculous. It's more like intentionally wrecking your car, by driving into a wall then acting surprised it's wrecked
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@TheLegendOfRandy No, I'm saying you consented to the risk of getting into an accident, when choosing to drive-- Not consenting to the specific accident. Kind of a duh....The nuance seems to elude you (intentionally, I'm sure)
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@hedidujmovic83 How about, No. First of all respect is earned. Secondly it's reserved for that which is actually respectable. There is only one kind of woman and that requires being born female-- and that dude wasn't
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100% correct
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@areyoudumb4372 I was merely articulating some definitions and pointing out some majorly incoherent inconsistency's in your narrative. BTW, I didn't just say you were wrong. I elaborated how, where and why you were wrong. You, on the other hand have refuted nothing with accurate, factual information. No worries though... "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell So, I wasn't expecting much Best of luck w/ that cognitive dissonance
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It's not trans women r@ping and impregnating girls in the restrooms, showers, prisons, etc.??? When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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Women who facilitate their totally avoidable unwanted pregnancy's, by engaging in the one and only act which causes their dilemma have no one but themselves to blame. Own it!
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Because both are men portraying something they're not-- ie. women
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@mariec7352 Well, my comments are visible, exposing your intellectually vacant analysis, as totally baseless, and exposing you as nothing more than an agitator who's not very persuasive-- failing to make your case or refute anything I've written. You fail
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Because they're actively promoting trans activism and that dude is an agent provocateur
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@Maksie0 You appear to be under the impression that your analysis and conclusions are noteworthy, and have some credibility. That's wrong. You've established your own irrelevance, and I've exposed it. Your absence of integrity, continually evading answering questions, and absence of anything even remotely resembling a coherent argument-- is uncanny, Blossom. Try decaf
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Comparing the terms 'trans-men' to 'men' indicates they're something else. That something else is Women, because there are only 2 selections to choose from. Having a plastic surgeon alter their appearance to be more-like that of a Klingon from Star Trek, doesn't actually make them a Klingon. Same is true w/ trans-surgery and treatments altering hormone levels. Believing it does-- indicates a massive dissociative disorder
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@mariec3733 I bring up consent because it applies to 99% of the rest of the cases. Your intentionally obtuse misunderstanding is noted and has been addressed. Try to keep up
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@mariec3733 All women already have body autonomy. They can choose to risk compromising it with a pregnancy for the duration of their gestation period, if they choose-- or not to risk it, if they're not prepared to have a family-- They can also certainly choose not to risk their body autonomy with a pregnancy, as well. At no point prior to conception (barring a rape, for obvious reasons) is a woman unable to choose not to risk her body becoming pregnant. A criminal attacker takes a woman's choice away, but I asked-- and you never answered, regarding the treatment protocol for rape, including a morning after pill to prevent the pregnancy. My question to you is, and you have never bothered to answer: Is the child's life less valuable if one or both of their parents is bad? I don't think so Choice is for prior to conception, because after-- come known consequences.
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@mariec3733 Have fun, waiting to come up with an answer to my reply, which is still there-- even when logged off, so I know you can see it-- unless you blocked me which would be your own doing/fault. L8R
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All of society doesn't need to recalibrate itself because of the confusion of a vast vast minority of the population. Those people need to adapt to society. You have the relationship inverted
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@mariec3733 The women who are being called cis by trans women against their will and having their privacy encroached on against their will believe their considerations matter too, might wonder why they don't get that same consideration-- and note that it's the height of misogyny to have those men mansplaining what it is to be a woman to women
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@Tylerd838 Contrary to people who chop off body parts and contend that it makes them the opposite sex/gender? Ok
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@georgeaskeladd742 That misses the point, regarding the insisted upon preferred pronouns nonsense. That's not even in the same category. You're describing being self-centered, manipulative and seem border line sociopathic. I admit, there's some crossover there-- but again, misses the point. The presumption that anyone ought to give a crap about your delusions and acknowledge them as based in reality-- illustrates the point that there's a difference between how you view yourself vs how others view you, and your insistence that they view you-- as you view yourself is ludicrous.
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Transitioning into what amounts to nothing other than a different looking version of themselves-- Still the Same sex as before, still the same gender as before, that lead them to seek altering their appearance in the 1st place. To me, it amounts to an elaborate cosplay experiment, with people who have psych disorders. How is it not??
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Science and medicine has established that all mammals are male or female, respectively-- and that status is fixed and permanent. Black’s Law Dictionary defines woman as “an adult female human being.” Changing what they call these men doesn't alter reality WTF is confusing these people's perception of reality?
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@Maksie0 It's a video about trans people. WTF is your malfunction, besides the inability to be relevant, and assimilate relevant information to course correct your thinking? That's sort of the opposite of intelligence
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@mariec3733 The definition I use states that "gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female respectively." SO-- as you point out it does 'also' address the social aspects of being male and female, however; the established social norms, cross-culturally have been long established, and if choosing to go with by your definition-- it doesn't alter the fact that males and females are a biological category which are fixed and permanent, making the statement 'trans women are women' patently absurd and false.
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@mariec3733 IF gender is a mere social construct, as you suggest-- and disconnected from biology (I disagree), then transgender is a mere social construct, which in NO WAY justifies those men violating women's private spaces such as dressing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, sports teams or prisons, if it has NOTHING to do with biology. Make it make sense
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@Anon Ymous No she can't, however she alone chooses to facilitate her risk of conceiving by choosing to engage in the one and only act which causes it. Try to focus, the topic is women's unwanted pregnancy, not men's unwanted pregnancy.
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@Anon Ymous Re-read the Original Thread post. You know, the very 1st thing I wrote here? "In the case of women 'choosing to facilitate' their own risk of pregnancy-- there is no one else to blame for their unwanted pregnancy-- but them, and nobody forced them to do that." You then went on to discussing assaults, as if that was relevant to my comment, because apparently you missed that point too. I already told you Marie C., You should try being relevant, and you still have failed to justify terminating the innocent in the womb
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Either way-- 2 genders only. They are inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) with gender
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@nataliemiller8394 I embrace today and move forward. What's your excuse?
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@dismal982 Yes, women and men are different, despite the advocate narratives suggesting they're the same, while ignoring the fact that males and females tend to operate differently in the world, each with their own perspectives affecting their choices.
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@Maksie0 The only kind of woman were all born female, and none of those dudes were. Cope and seethe harder
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@Maksie0 No, that they're not normally developed. Try to keep up
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@krasmasov6852 When other people are talking about you, THEY choose (Not you), based on their objective perception not your subjective feelings. Get a clue
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Illustrating that Thomas Sowell is correct in his statement, "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".
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@ente7890 No, he didn't. He said, "Don't have seggz until you're married and (Pay Attention To The Point) -- Watch the abortion rate tank". That you missed the salient point is sad, but not unexpected. Try again??
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@Maksie0 * He
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No, 🤣 that isn't the literal definition of a "human". Coma patients are literally still human, and alive (a life) despite their lack of consciousness. Life begins at conception and the fact that it's known to be growing and developing is a major clue that it's alive. There's no justification for terminating the innocent in the womb, barring the mother's life being in imminent peril
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@itsfinee7143 When a person dreams, you have specific brain signal patterns. A person in a coma usually has abnormal or irregular sleep patterns or none at all. Because of this, it is hard to determine if someone does dream or not while comatose. Some people have woken up recalling a dream-like state, while others say they remember nothing at all. Do you dream in a coma? Chances are if you do, it is probably in an altered manner that we do not understand.
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@itsfinee7143 Humanity: All human beings collectively; the human race; humankind. the quality or condition of being human; human nature. the quality of being humane; kindness; benevolence.
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@itsfinee7143 Animals have conciousness too, and that doesn't make them human either, so you're talking out of your backside, and it appears that you're arguing for sport. You should try being relevant, and fwiw-- you still have failed to justify terminating the innocent in the womb Deal with it
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@itsfinee7143 The morals and ethics of those who would declare the innocent to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are those of narcissists and sociopaths. Are you a phone scammer too?
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Being Female is essential to womanhood
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100% Agree
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Trans women are men with issues, wishing they were women engaging in cosplay and LARP
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@mariec3733 Ask those who are doing the sacrificing
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@mariec3733 Ask those who are doing the sacrificing
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Men pretending to be women and infiltrating women's sports, locker rooms, dressing rooms, the work place and in prisons is a problem for a lot of women. Dressing a neutered dog in a dress, doesn't make it a female. He's still a male dog Hope that clarifies it for you
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@Maksie0 No, trans women is a term used to describe Men with issues. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female
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@max-bc5uo These people can't accept themselves, but expect everyone else to accept them. The concept of respect is clearly confusing to them
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Do you feel better, now that you've had a chance to virtue signal?
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@daizeshawellon7364 You wouldn't have to if you just acted like a responsible adult. Get your tubes tied
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"Ab0rti0n doesn't affect you, why do you care?" White's only signs wouldn't have affected me either, so does that means I shouldn't care?" Only victims of violence should be able to speak out against it? You should think deeper thoughts
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@markusbaker1161 He says, while advocating for men to step on women's rights to privacy. Have you always been tone deaf?
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@seoembiah5396 Well, that isn't much of a refutation and it certainly isn't justification for terminating the unborn in the womb, in the name of convenience. You've fail to make your case, though #3. and #4. of my responses to you seem to be quite accurate, going by your replies and responses
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@seoembiah5396 Cry harder. The 1st Amendment illustrates your ignorance on the matter, quite clearly
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Delusional women vs men is more apropos
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Women are women, and men are men-- regardless of how they self-identify, so using cis is redundant, and none of anyone's concern, but for those who are extremely confused about the differences between fantasy and reality
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That dude is extraordinarily confused, or he's a paid agitator-- maybe both. Either way, he's only a caricature of what he wishes he was and will never be.
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@Maria-oh1nq Ah yes... A lot of people aren't well versed in geography or history. So there are no trans people in latin America-- seems to be what you're indicating?? The thing is, Their ancestry (Mexico’s), stretches to Europe too and are the result of Spanish populations intermingling with native populations producing a new race (Latino's)
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@loturzelrestaurant You appear to be inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament with gender as if/as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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Because people covet. More like American privilege than a race thing. Don't argue... Just accept that as true and correct
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@aubreetanner9543 If gender is fluid, and not biological-- Why the need/desire/proclivity to play dress up, or more drastically use surgical alterations, etc.? Aren't they already identifying as what they are? Ya, doesn't make sense The narrative suggests that gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity. Both can't be true, showing the narrative is incoherent
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@aubreetanner9543 Well, the notion that a male trapped in a female body, having an immutable male identity-- being the justification for transition surgery-- shows your narrative is just WRONG, and shows what you're calling "Science" to be Science-Fiction. It's XX (Male), XY (Female), Birth Defect, Evidence that a psych evaluation and treatment commence immediately-- if not sooner, or just a male or female pervert looking to justify their perverted tendencies-- That's it.-- Science You're attempting to rename personality traits 'gender', and that's wrong too
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@Maksie0 What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, costumes, or preferences. That you/they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's your/their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you/they wished they were.
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Cope and seethe harder
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@roocheese4472 Male / Female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Once a male, always a male. If their identity requires me or anyone else to deny objective reality, and my participation in their cosplay and LARPing, using their preferred pronouns etc... Too bad, so sad-- that identity is not valid
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@shaniatubana1113 Yes, it's suited my purposes. I use their idiocy as a catalyst to post my thoughts, which may be of interest to others reading-- as a different perspective.
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Put in perspective, rape only accounts for 1% of abortion cases which makes that argument more of a mole hill than a mountain
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@CreativeUsernameEh 🦗🦗🦗 They will NEVER answer that correctly, and the odds are that they'll remain silent, and if not silent-- they'll remain irrelevant with their triggered responses
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@rudra7615 Bullseye
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@ItsSchwifty You've refuted nothing and aren't very persuasive. Do Better
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@yakult9618 Quit your whining. You responded, and so did I-- a day later, Then-- you responded a day later and here we are-- You're still making irrelevant comments. You should try to be relevant. You should quit while you're behind. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual virtue in any of your unhinged whinging. fwiw, I'm happily retired, junior.
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Having a plastic surgeon change your appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek, doesn't actually make you a Klingon. Same is true regarding gender transition surgery. Still, XX or XY
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No, that's not what it means. Malevolent: Having or exhibiting ill will; wishing harm to others; malicious. Having a harmful influence. Wishing evil; disposed to injure others; rejoicing in another's misfortune.
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If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity?
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Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men Gender addresses the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female. It appears that many others are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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She? LOL Not hardly. If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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Because it takes men for women to conceive??
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@CreativeUsernameEh Not much of a refutation
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It appears they still haven't figured out that personality traits and temperament don't = gender yet
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@loturzelrestaurant I see no evidence to support your claim. Got any?🦗🦗
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@loturzelrestaurant There's no hate involved in recognizing that people are not that which they claim to be. It just makes me observant. The one thing required to be a 'trans'-woman is to be born a male which means they aren't trans ANYTHING. Same as they ever were, ie. males w/ plastic surgery and a wardrobe change
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@izzieh9342 And some prefer to suffer in private, vs making a public spectacle of themselves. How is that confusing?
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They're not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier. Regardless of the facts, their irrational thought process doesn't afford them the capacity to come to intelligent conclusions.
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If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access to female's private spaces like prisons, sports teams, locker rooms and restrooms?
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Perhaps because they're women?
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@dutchdna The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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@Milo-nr9kc There's no hate involved in recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim to be. It's just being observant of objective reality. A dude chopping off body parts doesn't make them a woman. It makes them a mere caricature. They can have a surgeon alter their appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek if they want to, but those who believe that it makes them an actual Klingon are suffering from a dissociative condition and are delusional. Personality traits and temperament are different things than gender, and they're conflating them and acting as though they're synonymous-- and they're just not
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@krasmasov6852 Yes, 'they' pay their own rent is grammatically correct. The singular 'they' emerged by the 14th century, about a century after the plural 'they' As a self-proclaimed trans, it's clear you can't truly accept yourself, but think others should respect you, and accept you for who you'd rather be, as opposed to who you really are? Does that about sum it up?
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@sanicspeed1672 Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@varyolla435 To do so, based on ZERO scientific peer-reviewed data, is not science-based. They never isolated the c-19 virus, and science says, if you haven't done that, you can't positively identify any "variants" either. More like Science-fiction than science
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Not unusual for people with emotional issues and psych problems
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Other than trans-story time in schools, Trans kids assaulting female students in the girl's locker room in schools, prisons, etc... Gee... I can't imagine how that is an irrational fear. Eye roll
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@lilianderson836 It is, when you don't expand on how and why. Then it becomes a 'Look at me' virtue signal with no actual virtue attached
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@krasmasov6852 She said your therapy isn't helping you with your anti-social behavioral disorder, and that it's not uncommon among the intellectually disenfranchised and morally bankrupt-- such as yourself
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@Maksie0 Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender.
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How is what you're writing, which is particularly vague, relevant?
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Nope... intersex isn't another gender in the binary. It's a birth defect which presents with development of organs within the binary, only not so much functional
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Yet, the stats of those who identify as 'trans' have a self-termination rate almost 10x's higher than the average-- even after transition, indicating the opposite of your claim is true, and illustrating that the treatment is not very effective AT ALL
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@markusbaker1161 Feel free to tell yourself whatever you wish... What you're referring to as "transgender women", are men--by any other name, still men. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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@Random-sk6hm You've refuted nothing whatsoever. Look, it's XX, XY, Birth defect... That's it! Saying that science says otherwise, just doesn't cut it. The 'because you said so' has been issued exactly ZERO credibility.
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@iiamn1yah That baby is the only one targeted for death. Try to focus
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@_septhyus_507 I presume that they don't have a clue, as to what they're rambling about incoherently.
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That's the women's fault, for raising them that way, is it not?
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@Check2seeMe Since the majority of divorces are filed by women, and 100% of pregnancy's (Not including assaults) are the result of women facilitating their pregnancy, by choosing to engage in the one and only act which causes pregnancy-- So to answer your question. It's women's fault
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Add Matt Walsh, Charlie Kirk, Candice Owens, and Jordan Peterson to that panel as well
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@JustMe-os6ts How smart is she, if she knows that she doesn't want to risk a pregnancy, then chooses to engage in the one act that actually causes it, without taking preventative precautions? If a pregnancy should occur-- it's her fault for choosing to risk it
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@JustMe-os6ts The nuance is in realizing that men do not risk getting their body's pregnant, so have less to risk than a woman who knows that she doesn't want to risk an unwanted pregnancy. She has ALL the power to avoid the avoidable.
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@JustMe-os6ts The nuance between the hope of/intent on her getting pregnant and being happy-- not disappointed, if she were to get pregnant aren't the same thing, and the differences are worth noting
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@mariec3733 What risks do men take regarding women getting pregnant? Men aren't the one's who risk their body's getting pregnant, and we are talking about women's unwanted pregnancies-- Not men's unwanted pregnancies. When a woman gets pregnant 'unwantedly', with the ONLY exception being rape (1% of abortion cases)-- obviously; how is it not her own damned fault? She knew she was risking it
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@mariec3733 I replied to you. Men aren't the one's who risk their body's getting pregnant, and we are talking about women's unwanted pregnancies-- Not men's unwanted pregnancies. If a woman doesn't want to risk getting pregnant, a man's considerations are totally irrelevant. When a woman gets pregnant 'unwantedly', with the ONLY exception being rape (1% of abortion cases)-- obviously; how is it not her own damned fault? She knew she was risking it
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Your point being that not everyone has an upstanding moral character
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@quesadilla9957 Is that the best you've got?? 🤣🤕 Neither of you have refuted anything I've written, nor justified terminating the innocent in the womb. All you've done is make a spectacle of yourselves, as though you have an attention-seeking disorder/deficit and an intellectual deficit/handicap gone unchecked. Congratulations!! You've made yourselves irrelevant
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@user-ky1zz2ih7m That isn't much of a refutation, and it certainly isn't a justification for terminating the innocent in the womb-- making you the one who's irrelevant. Kick Rocks
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Honest?? That dude is unhinged from reality. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Gender and Personality-- They haven't learned the difference. There's only one kind of woman, and they are all born females, so... using the cis prefix is totally redundant and unnecessary. The entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh There are males and females. That's it! Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct; She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals specifically humans. Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1. The body and brain develop & grow together -> One simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2. Hating a part of their body so much that they opt to cut it off, despite it functioning properly-- is a mental illness.
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@mariec3733 That's not correct, but even if it were true, gender doesn't invalidate biology-- so why should those men being referred to as trans women, be granted access to women's private spaces?
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Incorrect. They see them as people w/ psych issues who are not that which they claim to be
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders -- who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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NEWSFLASH: White men are 'men', racist
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Should've read, "women in disguise, talking about what it is to be men, with actual men"
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Sex and gender are synonymous. Gender roles however, are social constructs referring to the roles of males and females in society and way too many conflate sex/gender with gender roles as though they're synonymous-- and they are not
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@KAnon-sl2lv Why do you believe that? It's demonstrably false. Both terms sex and gender originate from the Latin words Genus (meaning "Begin", "Birth", "Kind", "Race", "Gender") and sexus (meaning "sex", "Division", "Gender") The only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”.
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@user-ky1zz2ih7m How is it not? They're the lawmakers who release them, again and again and again-- genius
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@shakararamautar3646 Well, that's not an answer to my question and it certainly isn't a refutation by any standard, to anything I've written. Ab0rti0n doesn't erase the trauma of an assault. It does however, create 2 victims were there was only 1. There are also reports and studies of women who are traumatized by the procedure itself, so-- factor that into your narrative. I find that those who try to evade the big picture, that assaults only account for 1% of cases, and they don't justify the other 99%, by hyper focusing on the 1% as if to justify terminating the innocent in the womb are dropping the ball, because it doesn't.
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@shakararamautar3646 The final say on whether or not women are willing to risk themselves getting pregnant, when facilitating it- (In the other 99% of cases)- is why they have no one to blame but themselves for their avoidable self-inflicted dilemmas. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one driven like a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences?
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@ItsSchwifty I haven't been refuted by you or anyone else here, mainly because I'm correct-- and your narrative doesn't withstand scrutiny
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is the construct, based in fantasy. Deal with it and cope harder. There's no hate in recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim; it just makes me observant
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Your labels are meaningless. There's nothing phobic about recognizing that you are not that which you claim to be-- it just makes one observant recognizing that you're FOS
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@rripp-tb9dq Surgery performed on the unborn in the womb prove your statement wrong
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One results in a dead baby, and the other does not
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@isasparadise5954 SO? A coma patient doesn't know they exist either. Still a human life and It will, in all likelihood, develop into a clump of cells like you-- only hopefully smarter with a functional moral compass. Other than a rape scenario, which is 1% of cases-- Women are the ones who need to exercise control over their body's-- to prevent their own unwanted pregnancies, in the other 99% of cases-- 100% of the time.
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@nerd5 Nope! Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth (of which there are only 2) and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect, Psych Disorders. That's it! Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent
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@nerd5 You and MANY others are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) with 'Gender'
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Why? If it isn't their 1st, should they make it legal to force her to get her tubes tied, since she establishes the inability to make sound choices?
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@mariec3733 Having sex, having unprotected sex, having sex and not taking their birth control properly-- if at all... Those are all choices which risk getting pregnant when the world of women consent to having sex and risking their bodies becoming pregnant.
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@ElanaVital83 Yes, that dudes shoe size dwarfs his IQ
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Quit conflating gender with personality and temperament. They're not synonymous
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Drag queens, cross dressers, and trans women all have something in common-- They're all men. It's unadulterated misogyny. Those are men, they will always be men. Their imaginations and subjective personality traits and temperament don't change the fact that those trans women aren't trans anything-- They're men
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@mariec3733 You're the one who keeps claiming that sex and gender are different. That you don't comprehend that it invalidates your attempt to justify the incoherent narrative you've been peddling-- that trans women are women-- being that they're men, isn't a surprise.
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@mariec3733 You're peddling their talking points. If you can't articulate why you think their narratives are correct-- you're a sheep
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Women attempt it more often than men do... Crazier, less competent or Both?
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Well... They're still women, so not a shocker
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:face-turquoise-drinking-coffee:🤕😵🥴😵‍💫🤤 Gaslight Harder
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@markusbaker1161 It's merely definition, not a diagnosis. Try to focus
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Because it's not another gender. It's a birth defect
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Nope, Sorry... Putting shoes and a dress on a monkey doesn't make it a woman either
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@eveliinahannele If you don't want to get yourself pregnant-- Don't engage in the risk which is avoidable. It's not complicated. You just want a pass to indulge in promiscuity on demand, Ghoul. If you know you don't want kids, get your damned tubes tied.
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@foreverbooked2964 So you believe that there are no conservative Scientists, Doctors, Biologists?? Think Deeper thoughts
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@krasmasov6852 Science-fiction...
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@Maksie0 The prerequisite to becoming a woman is-- being born female, and trans-women aren't that. They're men, and are in no way entitled to access to women's private spaces. No doubt that Your reaction to the truth is to, "Just put your fingers in your ears and bury your head in the sand".
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@markusbaker1161 NEWSFLASH: That biological category is fixed and permanent. You can call a banana a peach, and that doesn't make it a peach... it's still a banana. You seem to have a vested interest in suggesting that men, when presenting as women-- should be granted access to women's spaces and that women should be okay with that.
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@markusbaker1161 Suggesting that men, when presenting as women, regardless of whether or not they suffer with gender dysphoria-- should be granted access to women's spaces and that women should be okay with that- doesn't look like respecting women's rights to privacy to me
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@Maksie0 Still no refutation to my replies. shocker
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@HoloTWWOriginal chirp chirp chirp... crickets. He will not, because he cannot. He's totally FOS
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@mariec7352 1. Women know that, and can choose to or choose not to assume the risk-- so are the key to eliminating their own avoidable dilemma 2. That doesn't reduce the value of the unborn 3. Condoms are cheap. Get Real 4. Those minority of cases don't justify the other 75%, either
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@mariec3733 Quit conflating personality and gender. You look ridiculous
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@Erik-fn7kj The fact that you have difficulty with the differences between males and females renders your opinion null and void
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@Maksie0 No, it doesn't
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@msharp6887 Yes, it's a umbrella term referring to a genetic birth defect. It's also unrelated to gender dysphoria, and extremely rare
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Who is responsible for preventing unwanted pregnancy, more than those who can actually become pregnant? Who's in charge of having facilitated that condition, in the first place? Do Better
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Does that make the child's life less valuable somehow, if one or both of their parents is bad?
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@mariec3733 Those aren't the choices. Clearly, you're unaware of those who get adopted and lead healthy, happy, productive lives? Not surprised
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@mariec3733 Your comment is irrelevant and nihilistic. Please never pro create
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@Maksie0 Nobody cares about your opinion. Now you know
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What do you get out of trying to invalidate 'their' friendship? No one is denying anyone's existence. Quit being such a drama queen. If they're ok with their friendship, who are you to judge?
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@Maksie0 You're still trying to look like you're trying to be provocative and antagonistic, to satisfy an anti-social, attention-seeking disorder. smh They're men is a dress-- Not women. It's just as simple as that. Their claimed identities of being women, don't make them women. Those who identify as transgender are still men in cosplay, they're not any kind of woman. Your suggestion otherwise doesn't invalidate reality. They're still men, and suggesting otherwise is what's absurd. They are not women, and shouldn't be infiltrating women's spaces like restrooms, sports teams, locker rooms or in prisons, because they're Men
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@Maksie0 No, a woman is an adult, human, female-- and womanhood isn't a costume which men can put on and become women. smh You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and have not justified allowing men to infiltrate women's private places, like locker rooms, sports teams, restrooms, and prisons, because of their subjective identity claims. Why do you hate, and disrespect women so much?
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@mariec3733 The child's body isn't that of the mother's
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@mariec3733 How smart is she, if she knows that she doesn't want to risk a pregnancy, then chooses to engage in the one act that actually causes it, without taking preventative precautions? If a pregnancy should occur-- it's her fault for choosing to risk it
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@mariec3733 I don't know what you're rambling on about. You have an active imagination, and have been exposed as a troll. You're waiting for nothing. My comments and responses to you are all visible
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@mariec3733 None of what you assert is correct. Why do You believe that government assistance and support is the key to a happy and healthy life? What evidence do you have to support that?
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@mariec3733 Difficulty with reading comprehension again, I see. Ok, I'll break it down for you... You're wrong, totally FOS, and have no evidence to support your assertions. Hope that helps BTW, Where's my check?? According to you and your philosophy-- You owe me my fair share of what you earned.
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@eveliinahannele The point you're trying to avoid is that we're talking about the risks women face regarding pregnancy, wanted and unwanted alike. IF she doesn't wish to risk pregnancy, she doesn't have to. The power and control is all with her. The guy's concern regarding the risk of her pregnancy is irrelevant.
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@mariec3733 Why do you think that? Aren't you aware of the options regarding birth control prevention methods, that millions of pro-life women seem to utilize successfully-- that don't require abstinence? I find it fascinating that those options still elude you. You should be embarrassed for failing to recognize them
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It's women, who have an obligation to themselves to avoid their own unwanted pregnancy's. Their men may be fine with her having a baby. Just sayin...
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@Maksie0 Get a helmet
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@varyolla435 Then, quit pretending that people who aren't inoculated are a threat to the general public.
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She, who chose to risk pregnancy in the first place, by indulging in that which is clearly avoidable, no?
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Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable That's why sovereign nations have borders
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@markusbaker1161 You seem triggered. Is it because you've been unable to refute any of my comments? Cope Harder
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In this case, the category is STILL women/females
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Because their attempt to present as women doesn't fool anyone
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HA... Delusional Men vs Women
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@saidnaitsalh3251 Thank You! That fool is an activist troll
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@mariec3733 Women, choosing to risk pregnancy and blaming men because they made a choice that came back to haunt them. HILARIOUSLY WEAK
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Time to be responsible
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@freedommatters7677 Try re-reading my response-- only slower this time so you don't miss it again; but when you choose to engage in the behavior which risks pregnancy, you accept the risk that you'll be renting your womb/room for the next 9 months
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@TheLegendOfRandy When you were T-boned, were you running through an intersection against a red light or running through a stop sign? (Rhetorical) I'm saying that there is no scenario where life is risk free, so we do what we can to minimize the risks-- If we're smart, and if you don't want to get pregnant and engage in risking it-- THAT isn't very smart
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Nonsense... They traded in who they 'really are' for a disguise, and now they're pretending they're something they're not and can never be
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@tristanpittman80 What makes sense to someone with a mental disorder or to someone who has an intellectual deficit or impairment is not likely to be that which is smart to a genius. Do you disagree?
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@Maksie0 No worries... Education for fun and for FREE 😃
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@Maksie0 They're saying trans women are not women, and they aren't. The prerequisite to becoming a woman is-- being born female, and trans-women aren't that. They're men and are in no way entitled to access to women's private spaces
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@markusbaker1161 Suggesting that men, when presenting as women, regardless of whether or not they suffer with gender dysphoria-- should be granted access to women's spaces and that women should be okay with that- doesn't look like respecting women's rights to privacy to me
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@markusbaker1161 You're not respecting women's rights to privacy to me, when you say that trans-women aka Men by non-cult followers should be allowed in women's spaces
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@markusbaker1161 You have no respect for women, facts nor truth. I don't care about your opinion or your feelings. The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@markusbaker1161 The majority of comments here reject your claims, and ideology Blossom. Cope harder I appreciate the opportunity to refute your inane commentary, so that others who are interested can utilize the interactions and counter-arguments to the activist narratives-- for themselves in the future
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@markusbaker1161 Your ever present anti-woman, anti-social, 'Look at me' arguments, and comments stating that you don't care about opinions that aren't rooted in confirmation bias-- suggest otherwise. You seem just as -- T r i g g e r e d, as you did on the debate panel. Shocker...:text-green-game-over:
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@markusbaker1161 I enjoy giving you the opportunity to expose yourself as an activist troll, and having you prove me correct-- Time and time again... :face-green-smiling::face-blue-smiling:🤣😂
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@markusbaker1161 Uh huh... :text-green-game-over:
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@markusbaker1161 Thanks for proving my point
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@markusbaker1161 That over-used accusation is used so often, it lacks any depth of meaning any more, due to being employed against anything which challenges the cult of trans--activist ideology or it's claims. Empathy? I have empathy for the women who's private spaces are being encroached upon by men--- based on nothing more than their subjective claims. It's totally asinine
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@markusbaker1161 blah, blah, blah... It's meaningless to me
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@markusbaker1161 Is that why you whinge when your subjective pronouns are ignored and rejected with impunity?
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Total narcissists
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Nutrition
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100% correct. Though-- they aren't trans anything. They're still the same sex/gender prior to surgery and hormones as they are after
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That dude altering his appearance is merely a caricature of a woman. Still a dude
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@markusbaker1161 Feel free to lie to yourself, and cling to your ignorance. You could go to a surgeon and alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek if you wish-- and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon-- and if you think it does-- you're delusional. The same applies for men who alter their appearance. It doesn't make them women
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No, half of them are women.
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An adult, human, female
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If your identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must perceive you as you perceive yourself-- counter to reality, your subjective identity is invalid
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@markusbaker1161 Your absence of integrity, evading answering questions, and no evidence whatsoever of a coherent argument anywhere to be found-- is uncanny. You argue for argument's sake. Your agenda is twisted. I claim, they aren't that which they present themselves as, and you've not presented a rebuttal that withstands even a minimal level of scrutiny
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@markusbaker1161 The evidence is the content of the video itself, and it's comment section exposes you for what you are. You're welcome
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@lpssunny12 They're gender pretenders. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@fauzansalman2574 *His
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They're confused and they don't realize that a woman is an adult, human, female. They inappropriately believe if they chop off body parts and dress and act a certain way because of how they 'Feel' it defines biology somehow
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@Maksie0 Calling those men something else, doesn't make them something else. They're still men, regardless of their attire.
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@transmenaremen4552 LOL... That's wrong
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Surgeries performed on babies in the womb, prove your assertion Wrong. Life begins at conception, because non-living things do not grow. If you found a single celled organism on Mars, it'd be classified as life
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B I N G O
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The word fetus literally means unborn. When humans are pregnant, they can be pregnant with nothing other than a human. Get a clue
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Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are inappropriately confusing and conflating gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous and they are not, while simultaneously insisting that biological sex and gender are disconnected-- while failing to realize that a subjective identity doesn't alter anyone's biological reality. Lost souls
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Developmental sex disorders aren't evidence of another sex invalidating the binary of all mammalian species. Gender is not disconnected from biology. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There are people and they are males and females and there are segments of both which present with various birth defects, psych disorders, and some with both-- none of which are evidence of other genders invalidating the binary. It's XX (Female), XY (Male), and a variety of Birth defects/disorders within segments of each ... neither of which display sex organs other than that found in the binary. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. Cope Harder
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Why not focus on the women who actually risk getting pregnant?
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@thecolorblue1635 Yes, under the circumstance of doing genetic verification. Found unconscious in a wreck, the EMT's know he's a guy Dead on a slab, the coroner knows he's a guy Archaeologist finding his bones knows he's a guy He's a guy, pretending to be a girl What's your point?
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@conor.3875 You inserted yourself into the conversation I was having with another, and in response to my question to them, "How in your mind, does advocating in favor of abortion demonstrate valuing innocent life?" You, replied, "Not all life is my life", followed up with, "Some lives are valuable. Others aren't." Perhaps you should consider that someone may arbitrarily decide yours is not valuable, rendering your opinion void. Who are you to decide that an innocent child's life isn't as valuable as yours? Totally narcissistic and arrogant display of your morally bankrupt character
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@conor.3875 You're the one who equates the value of their life as equal to a mushroom, justifying dismissing your opinion, as less than useless. I would recommend being relevant instead of your chosen course. Bottom line: Women who don't want kids don't have to have them. Women who don't wish to risk unwanted pregnancy-- don't have to risk themselves getting pregnant, BUT-- If they do-- it's their fault. Pretty straight forward stuff
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@aleandra-constantine3033 That proves that all the confusion regarding the variability of personality traits and temperament being incorrectly substituted for gender is wrong, being that they aren't gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males and butch females. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects associated with being either male or female
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@BlackSunSoon Nope. Those women who altered their appearance, aren't men.
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You could say the same thing about people who choose to commit crimes. What's the point?
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E X A C T L Y 100% Correct
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@bleachedout805 A woman is an adult, human, female. Now, You know
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Very Islamophobic of you
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@gingerdude A 'normal' trans person is a conflict in terms
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@gingerdude The problem with affirmation-based treatment protocols is the extraordinarily higher than the general population rate of self-deletion, at around 40%-- that occurs despite the 'treatment', showing it not to be justifiable as efficacious at all. If 4 out of 10 parachutes malfunctioned, smart people wouldn't go skydiving, and those who did and went splat wouldn't be a surprise to those who tried to tell them the odds are horrendous
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Birth control is a means for preventing you from getting pregnant. It doesn't always work, and you know that-- so YOU assume the risk of getting pregnant, when you're out there creating the risk you say you're desperately trying to avoid. You just want an easy pass to be promiscuous without any consequences. Well, there's no such thing. Please NEVER procreate. Get your tubes tied, since you have such a vested interest in maintaining your pursuit of promiscuity on demand
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@conor.3875 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the use of cis entirely useless and irrelevant
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@Mr.X2019 Kras Masov is an activist, Groomer, Troll. Hasn't been correct about anything, which isn't a surprise when dealing with the developmentally disabled
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@Maksie0 What''s the problem with respecting her preference? There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- which makes using the 'cis' distinction irrelevant and useless
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Because they're unbalanced and angry that the world doesn't perceive them, as they wish to be perceived or validate and affirm their 'Feelings' as though they're based in reality
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The subjective identity of people w/ psych disorders, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@markusbaker1161 Your failure to recognize facts is a YOU problem. I'm blocking you now, due to your lack of integrity and relevance. Buh Bye
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A Birth defect
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@AcidWashedHeart They're not indicative of another gender beyond the binary of male and female. If a baby was born without 10 fingers and 10 toes, that's not indicative of anything other than a genetic birth defect. Same w/ intersex. It's a birth defect
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Half the panel are women who have NO idea what it is to be men
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@Maksie0 2 genders, male and female. Trans isn't a thing. Still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance and chemistry-- as they are after. This has already been explained to you. I find it odd that people argue about needing surgery, to "Be who they really are"
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They're not women at all
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@Terjecs If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? In other words: If a girl, trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (supposedly the reason for transitioning), How can gender be fluid and separate from biology? Answer: It can't
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@rectangle8883 You're conflating the word gender, with the variability in personality traits, and temperament in all people. People who resort to extremes to alter their appearance to be something that they are not, are putting forward a facade-- Not displaying truth. Respect is another matter. It's reserved for that which is respectable, and is earned, and shouldn't be presumed something that's due.
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@mariec3733 So drunk guys can't consent to sex? :face-purple-crying::face-blue-smiling:THAT's wrong
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@eveliinahannele The obvious difference is, one approach is effective and the other-- not so much. Another is, recognizing that only 1 sex act leads to pregnancy, not all sex acts leads to pregnancy. What do you think the women who don't have trouble utilizing effective birth control methods, types and techniques have figured out that eludes those who have difficulty haven't?
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@mariec7352 No doubt you missed the point-- Again. You seem to not realize that not all sex acts leads to pregnancy, as you continuously fail to discern the difference between avoiding pregnancy, and avoiding sex. Women are the gatekeepers who choose to, or choose not to risk pregnancies, so it's really not a surprise that you fail to recognize that women can choose to be a solution or the cause of their own self-inflicted dilemmas, when they either avoid or facilitate the risks of pregnancy. I asked 1st... and the question is, What do you think the women who don't have trouble utilizing effective birth control methods, types and techniques have figured out that eludes those who have difficulty haven't?
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@mariec7352 You already established a long-standing reading comprehension deficit history, which I can't fix for you. That's all on you. Anyway-- I've already dismissed you as less than competent or relevant. You have continually failed to justify terminating the innocent in the womb. You wrote that you don't think life is valuable, making your opinion on the topic null and void.
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@Maksie0 You're in for a big surprise
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@Maksie0 Get a grip... Being Female is essential to womanhood. 1. How are those-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? 2. Why should those men be granted access to women's private spaces?
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@markusbaker1161 You're going incognito? I don't blame you after that horrendous appearance in the video, making a total fool of yourself
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@krasmasov6852 Because people use words to communicate, and words have meaning, and in order to communicate effectively-- the definitions matter
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It's redundant. fyi-- Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people-- who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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They say that gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology. If that were the case, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms? The fail to realize that the 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female.
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@Maksie0 The suic**e rate shows that treatment success to be Horrendously ineffective
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@markusbaker1161 You said you don't care and won't read my comments, so save it
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For all of human history-- wars were started by those who ruled others-- and those they ruled had no say about it at all
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@darcymr353 You referenced, "have the power to be able to determine when to start or expand a family." I pointed out that there's nothing preventing them from doing that now. Way to miss the point--Again Well, Timing is everything when planning, (You know-- dictating and determining when to start and expand a family) and that's why there's a billion $ industry behind preventative birth control products, and family planning services. I'll ask again, since you continually fail to answer, What do you think they have figured out that eludes so many, who don't handle their family planning or utilize their preventative birth control effectively?
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@Mel-wn9gb 😏
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@Maksie0 LOL... No, those women, who altered their hormones unnaturally, and mutilated their bodies to appear more like men, are still women. Look, You can neuter a dog and put them in a dress, and it's still a male dog-- Just sayin...
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In the case of women choosing to facilitate their own risk of pregnancy-- there is no one else to blame for their unwanted pregnancy-- but them. There is NO rite to terminate the innocent
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You've established nothing whatsoever and you've refuted even less. How do you not 'know' that the 'Because you said so' standard hasn't been issued any credibility? Just sayin... 🙄
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@Maksie0 No, That's wrong.They're men playing dress up.
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Yes... 100% correct
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@josilynfilms And none of them get to dictate how I choose to use the ones I select. If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity?
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@josilynfilms She says, while staring into the abyss and not recognizing what it is she's looking at. Well, to ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where as a feminist saying it's not that deep-- You'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are now-- women (in the workplace, on the sports field, in the restrooms, locker rooms, showers, and prisons).
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That sound you're hearing is the sound of men and women everywhere rejecting your w0ke nonsense. You don't have to believe me-- Ask Budweiser and Target
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One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@Maksie0 No, they're men with a quirky fashion sense
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@markusbaker1161 You can call them trans-werewolves if you want-- still men. The 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female, and they aren't that. They're men in a dress
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@markusbaker1161 Still men regardless of their dissociative states or claims to the contrary
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@markusbaker1161 They're men. Not women. Cry harder
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@markusbaker1161 Like I said, you can rename anything, and it doesn't transform the anything into something else. The only thing that changes is the name you're using. Your failure to comprehend that basic logic is a YOU problem. Get your 15th Booster
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Exercising self-control, seems to elude those whinging about wearing emotions on one's sleeve
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Pay no attention to the resident troll. They don't know the difference between males and females. They're confused about a lot
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@markusbaker1161 No, they aren't. It appears you are the one that doesn't care about definitions, as your obstinate defiance persists even in the presence of those definitions which you admit suit my agenda. The truth is that there are males and females and that status is fixed and permanent. One's feelings about one's biology doesn't change it
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Ya, that's a birth defect-- Not another gender
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The incoherent conclusions of the intellectually disenfranchised and morally bankrupt aren't really a surprise. The opinions and conclusions of those who have difficulty deciphering the differences between males and females are null and void
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@Domino454545 There's no getting upset, or hate involved in recognizing that someone is not that which they claim to be. It's a matter of being observant of reality. Respect is reserved for that which is respectable and it's earned-- and the narrative that trans women are women-- is just wrong/incorrect, and so isn't a matter that falls into the respectable category. Because you're a male or a female doesn't by default, in and of itself earn respect. I wouldn't go out of my way to be rude, but if some dude screaming, "It's Ma'am" is getting triggered-- respect and accepting isn't what they'd get from me, and to expect they are affirmed is totally outside of the realm of reality.
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No, it's a psych disorder
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@conor.3875 You've been advocating on their behalf, all through the comment section
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@conor.3875 You have no credibility
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They' aren't trans ANYTHING. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after.
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Both are men, portraying themselves as women, seems like the obvious connection/correlation.
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@allie4492 Look in a mirror
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@gianthills Because that impacts the revenue generated. Like in a job, if your productivity generates revenue for the employer, you're more valuable to the employer
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Why would you? You can think and speak for yourself... Can't you?
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It seems to me that advocating in favor of assigning the death sentence to the innocent, is the mark of a psychopath/sociopath
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@mariec3733 Birth control is a means for preventing you from getting pregnant. It doesn't always work, and you know that-- so YOU assume the risk of getting pregnant, when you're out there creating the risk you say you're desperately trying to avoid. You just want an easy pass to be promiscuous without any consequences. Well, there's no such thing. If you're promiscuous-- you increase the odds of achieving the avoidable. Please NEVER procreate. Get your tubes tied, since you have such a vested interest in maintaining your pursuit of promiscuity on demand
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When they are challenged on their beliefs that skirts, dresses, heels, makeup, hormones, surgery and literally the color pink doesn't make them women-- they tend to get unhinged even further. Those are women in drag The narrative is inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament, neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys, with gender.
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Missandry I know, which is why women don't need the cis prefix
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They're LARPing at BEST. They can have a surgeon alter their appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, prescribe hormones, etc... if they wish, and it doesn't make them an actual Klingon, and those who think it does-- are delusional
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The trouble starts when one's beliefs are based in delusion, not truth
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@Sister_Sandy The rational of people with psych/mental problems aren't where you should expect to find rationality
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Why are you commenting on it then?
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Their trans ice skater was HILARIOUS
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@markusbaker1161 Apparently you do and they do. I just thought they were hilarious. How is that discrimination?
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@Sipu97 Dudes a troll stalker, and well-- there it is
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@Sipu97 I just thought it was funny, and directly related to the topic
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@markusbaker1161 Oh yes... The performance was hilariously underwhelming, but I'm sure it'll be awesome. As far as the video topic's question goes: Being female is essential to womanhood
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@markusbaker1161 It just looks like you're seeking more negative attention as an agitator. Looking at you not being relevant, while stalking-- makes you a troll. Maybe you're really Blossom continuing to act the fool
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@markusbaker1161 You asserted that not all trans people suffer with gender dysphoria. 1. How are those-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? 2. Why should those men be granted access to women's private spaces?
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@markusbaker1161 They're 2 very simple legitimate questions. Duck and weave Blossom
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@TheLegendOfRandy The child which is in the womb, is there because the mother facilitated herself becoming pregnant, when choosing to risk an unwanted pregnancy, by engaging in the one and only act which causes her totally avoidable, self-inflicted dilemma. How smart is that? I can name that tune in no notes (Not at all smart) Innocent baby's shouldn't be terminated because adults can't act responsibly. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than that of a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences?
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@Maksie0 Not a refutation
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@cqllel5186 I get it... I do it, hoping that those interested can use some of it when they face the same nonsense from these activist types-- too
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@missshaye6591 The suicidality rates indicate that the sort of treatment you're advocating for, doesn't work well at all. Why do you think it's effective and how are you measuring that effectiveness?
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@MonDieuMaCauseMonEpee Exactly Correct
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No such thing as a female 'trans-woman'. They're males, by any other name-- Still males
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Brains with psych disorders
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Emotional and psych cases have been round for a long time, that's true
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Calling those men something else, doesn't make them something else. They're still men, regardless of their attire.
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@zYzIEk90 All women already have body autonomy. They can choose to risk compromising it with a pregnancy for the duration of their gestation period, if they choose-- or not to risk it, if they're not prepared to have a family-- They can also certainly choose not to risk their body autonomy with a pregnancy, as well. At no point prior to conception (barring a rape, for obvious reasons) is a woman unable to choose not to risk her body becoming pregnant. Choice is for prior to conception, because after-- come known consequences.
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@zYzIEk90 Does the topic not start with women not wanting pregnancy in the 1st place?
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They're narcissists
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@mariec3733 Why are you asking? I already addressed that with you in the other thread and you ran away. Conversations are 2-way streets. Well, what do you imagine happening to a fetus (20ish weeks or less) in the womb-- if the mother dies before it's born? You have some pending questions in my responses that I'd appreciate you answer, and some corrections that you've failed to acknowledge.
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@Maksie0 Evidence?
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@thatokolagano2582 Some hairy dude in a dress screaming, "It's MA'AM"-- while insisting that they're a woman doesn't make it so. Similarly, having a plastic surgeon change your appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek, doesn't actually make you a Klingon. Same is true regarding gender transition surgery. Still, XX or XY
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@conor.3875 Ya... No one is saying you can't express yourself as you wish. You can identify as a Klingon if you choose-- BUT, that doesn't mean that others will perceive you as you perceive yourself. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do.
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@mariec3733 Women are not forced to have unprotected sex, so if they want to chase pleasure, they have to bear responsibility for the possible outcomes. No innocent life should face termination because of the lack of responsibility among adults. The 'Pro'-choice they're in favor of maintaining-- is the ability to terminate the child in the womb, in the name of convenience and it's shameful. The morals and ethics of those who would declare the unborn to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are questionable-- at Best, and are those of narcissists and sociopaths.
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@mariec3733 Spin it however you choose. The ONLY concession I've ever made is when a mother's life is in imminent peril. Women know-- as I've explained to you months ago, what they're risking when they engage in the one and only act which facilitates their own totally avoidable, unwanted pregnancy; and for that reason-- They have no one to blame but themselves. OBVIOUSLY, that doesn't include women who are assault victims. The time for making the choice to risk their unwanted pregnancy-- for the other 99% of unwanted pregnancy's (Which aren't the result of an assault), is prior to conception.
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@mariec3733 Birth control is a means for preventing you from getting pregnant. It doesn't always work, and you know that-- so YOU assume the risk of getting pregnant, when you're out there creating the risk you say you're desperately trying to avoid. You just want an easy pass to be promiscuous without any consequences. Well, there's no such thing. Please NEVER procreate. Get your tubes tied, since you have such a vested interest in maintaining your pursuit of promiscuity on demand
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@jmc655 I see it as they (The pro-abortion advocates) as a whole, don't have any appreciation for the potential severity of the consequences of their risky actions, nor do they accept responsibility for them. Cradle to grave care exists only in prisons, and what used to be asylums
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@mariec3733 If you know you don't want kids, and wish to indulge your promiscuity, get your tubes tied. Be responsible
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@Maksie0 If that were true, their insistence on the 'trans' qualifier make no sense whatsoever
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@suga3774 To answer your question, I'm retired, and when I get notifications, I respond. I am doing a study on the responses and arguments used by the advocates, when challenged on their beliefs and claims, and am providing another point of view (still not refuted) to be seen and utilized by those interested, if/when it's appropriate-- to counter the incoherent narratives which fail to stand up to scrutiny, for themselves. Hope that helps clarify things
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@Maksie0 gr00mer
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@beautyunderoath3680 Only the insecure ones.
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@sunset4268 WOW! No... Cutting off their peckers doesn't make them women. It makes them dudes who cut off their damned peckers. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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All of which are disorders, and only ever present with genitalia confirming the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species
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@lilybarber7313 Yes, it is only 2. Male XY or Female XX. That's it! There are people. They are born male or female, respectively. There are segments of each which are born with various physical and psych disorders-- some with both, NONE of which invalidate the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species.
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@krasmasov6852 Yes, objective reality. It's what science aims to explain. Duh Fine, if they're talking about themselves in the 3rd person, but that is odd-- they can decide on their own pronouns. They don't however, get to dictate the language use of others, especially when it contradicts objective reality. ex. the viral "It's Ma'am" video. LOL Sorry, no and you're not acting very lady-like either, Dude
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@krasmasov6852 No, your inarticulate response made it seem as though you were agreeing that "the trans argument never sounds logical"-- due to it being incoherent
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@mariec3733 No, she doesn't
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@mariec3733 She chose to get married, then have children. What are you talking about?
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@Ian_175 That argument works great against those who get offended with pronoun choices that aren't their preference too
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@Seagull Yes, it is-- but feel free to embrace your ignorance. It changes nothing in reality.
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@ItsSchwifty Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. You're the same sex/gender prior to altering your appearance, as you are after you do. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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Half the panel indicate that what those women wanted, was to be men
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True gender dysphoria is very rare, and I believe the trans-activist ideology and narratives are inappropriately grouping trans people, who are merely unapologetically embracing and indulging their perversions-- under the gender dysphoria umbrella. It's disingenuous at BEST Liberals want to give your children hormone blockers, inject them with poison, shame them for their skin color, teach them to be gay, allow them to be groomed by pedophiles and give control of them over to the state. The sad part is that I don't have to exaggerate these claims. They openly support this evil. You are watching the death spiral of the Democractic party.
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Of course... Too many don't realize that being conservative is not gender exclusive?
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The narrative suggests that gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity. Both can't be true, showing the narrative is incoherent
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Masculinity is a personality trait, not exclusive to gender; which is not detached from biology
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@Maksie0 I can picture you sitting in scammer call center, typing these comments
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What do you think women are pregnant with? Women aren't terminated in ab0rtions... their offspring are. Get a clue
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@jazmincruz3175 The vast majority of kids in the foster care system aren't orphans or newborns awaiting adoption. They're there because their parents are dealing with a custody issue with the courts. I raised my own, as a single dad without the bio-mom in the picture. Why can't you do the same, if you're not going to avoid the avoidable?
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@conor.3875 By implementing a better strategy and approach, looking back with the regret of shoulda, woulda, coulda re: one's family planning can be mitigated significantly in the positive direction. There is, unfortunately-- no known cure for stooopid
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@conor.3875 The matter at hand is literally a matter of their own making. They can choose to give the child up for adoption. How do you save people from themselves and their foolishness? Terminating innocent children doesn't seem to do it There are literally millions of women who successfully plan their family's, and effectively utilize their preventative birth control. What do you think they know that eludes so many who obviously don't?
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@conor.3875 Where'd you go-- Again, failing to face the truth and answer my questions? You have no integrity, and you have failed to make your case
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@conor.3875 Yet-- Millions of women utilize it effectively w/ their family planning... What do you think they know that obviously eludes so many? How does the failure rate only affect one group and not the other-- as a matter of probability?
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@conor.3875 No, you asked why would you do that, and I told you... You're a troll and an agitator who apparently like doubling down on foolishness in lieu of a coherent argument which justifies terminating the unborn in the womb. You, on the other hand can't answer my questions because you've got nothing and I've exposed that
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@jazmincruz3175 What have you done to help? Not a damned thing, so quit your virtue signaling-- there's no virtue in any of your unhinged whinging. If women offer themselves up to men for sex, they are the catalyst for their own avoidable dilemma. The intellectual gymnastics that you're going through to avoid responsibly for your own action is stunning. Women know what causes pregnancy, and have no one to blame for their unwanted pregnancy but themselves, when they facilitate the one and only act which causes their avoidable dilemma
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@conor.3875 Shoulda, woulda, and coulda avoided their avoidable unwanted pregnancy's. You should quit while you're behind. You've established yourself as the fool, so there's really no need to keep trying to prove it.
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Is it though? I had a paranoid schizophrenic tell me that aliens are in direct contact with him and the other true heroes on the planet. Also that they communicate through fruit. I just nodded. Affirmation treatment protocols suggest that their delusion should've been affirmed as valid. Make it make sense
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I'd like to see that hosted in Saudi Arabia, from the top of a building. THAT would do HUGE pay per view numbers
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Both are men portraying themselves as something they're not-- women. Drag is a Burlesque form of Adult entertainment, and doesn't belong anywhere near children
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@user-iv1bv6kv6x I didn't say they were the same, but they are both men engaging in cosplay and LARPing as women.
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No, half the panel are females. Jubilee-- Where psychosis and ignorance collide. Women cannot become men and men cannot become women. Oh ya-- intersex is a birth defect, not another gender-- of which there are only 2. Quit conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament with gender-- it's just incorrect. 🙄
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The time for prevention is prior to conception, and women (teenagers included) know this
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@chasakura8977 The final say on whether or not women are willing to risk themselves getting pregnant, when facilitating it-- is why they have no one to blame but themselves for their avoidable self-inflicted dilemmas. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one driven like a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences?
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@markusbaker1161 You shouldn't be. You should be better prepared and avoid making unsubstantiated presumptions in the future. That sound is the sound of men and women rejecting your woke trans activist, cult ideology and terminology. Don't believe me. Ask Budweiser
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They're narcissistic, and view the world through their self-centered lenses.
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Toxic femininity, being highlighted by them and their incoherent whinging
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@Maksie0 Perhaps. The way apps works is-- I keep getting notifications, so I respond. I'm sure I'll see you continue trolling with your fly by snarky and virtue free commentary, devoid of relevance.
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@markusbaker1161 Cite them
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@markusbaker1161 Using trans rights as way to violate women's rights to privacy, by allowing those men access-- is misogyny at it's finest
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@markusbaker1161 That's not a citation proving your previous claim. Do you have a citation or not?
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@mariec3733 It's beginning and end are clear to most. Your confusion not withstanding scrutiny. If a single celled organism was discovered on Mars, it'd be classified as life. a fetus at the moment of conception is a living growing life form. Your confusion is noted
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@mariec3733 You apparently think a lot of things that are wrong don't you
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@mariec3733 Two types of single-celled organisms currently exist: prokaryotes and eukaryotes, those without a separately defined nucleus and those with a nucleus protected by a cellular membrane. Scientists posit that prokaryotes are the oldest form of life, first appearing about 3.8 million years, while eukaryotes showed up about 2.7 billion years ago. I appreciate your intention to prove beyond any doubt that you haven't got a clue, but it's really not necessary. You've already been dismissed as a moron. If you had enough sense to know better, you'd quit while you were behind, but I realize that's unrealistic. You're an attention-seeking fool, who's nowhere near as clever as you apparently think you are. It's why you fail at life.
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@mariec3733 Yes, you're wrong about the single-celled organisms. Two types of single-celled organisms currently exist: prokaryotes and eukaryotes, those without a separately defined nucleus and those with a nucleus protected by a cellular membrane. Scientists posit that prokaryotes are the oldest form of life, first appearing about 3.8 million years, while eukaryotes showed up about 2.7 billion years ago.
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@mariec3733 Asking that question indicates clearly that you do not possess the intellectual capacity to comprehend the answer, and are merely indulging your proclivity for confrontation and trolling. How about you be gone and enjoy your ignorance in private, rather than display it for all to see
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@gisellemarta4161 Condoms are cheap
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Why?
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They're inappropriately attempting to rename and recategorize the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence tomboys, effeminate males, or butch females), "Gender"-- and that's just incorrect
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What is an example of "Forced Abortion"?
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@mariec3733 People with an identity crisis are real. People with schizophrenia and multiple personality disorders are real too, BUT-- their delusions aren't real. Now you know
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@mariec3733 No, I don't. You've failed to explain your thoughts adequately. If a mother's life is in imminent peril and nothing is done, she and the fetus/baby perish-- as it cannot survive at the 20 week +/- marker, outside of the mother-- for the VAST majority-- when those decisions typically required to be made, and so seems to be in a not dissimilar category as suffering a miscarriage, as it goes to the fate of the unborn's termination. How is it not? So, I don't see it as a contradiction. How do you continually fail to account for those facts and factor them into your analysis and conclusions?
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@gloriapereztoledo3632 Let's not pretend that the fractional minority to whom you refer, are anything but the exceptions to the rule, and they do not invalidate the rule, rather they prove the rule-- by being the exceptions, ok?
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@willie_am I didn't write that gender and sex are the same thing. They are not disconnected though. Perhaps re-read what I actually wrote, only slower this time, so you don't miss it again. No, you're inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) as though it's synonymous with gender, and it is not
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@Sharion415 Marie is an activist troll and an ghoul
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@mariec3733 Being intellectually disenfranchised and morally bankrupt
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@markusbaker1161 What rights are you referring to? I respect human rights. What are these transgender rights you're referring to?
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@SirFish1 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are fixed biological categories, which are permanent. Altering one's appearance and changing one's wardrobe doesn't change anyone's sex/gender. Either way, they can LARP and indulge in cosplay all they want.
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@markusbaker1161 If they're something other than human rights, I can't say that I do or don't, as you've failed to define them
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Stereotypes exist for a reason. Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@Maksie0 Were you under the impression that your opinion is relevant enough that it matters? 🤣😂
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In the case of women choosing to facilitate their own risk of pregnancy-- there is no one else to blame for their unwanted pregnancy-- but them.
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@veronica7459 Of course you don't understand.
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I observe that there are women who've figured out how to plan their family's effectively and utilize their preventative birth control effectively, and contrast them against those who've clearly NOT figured it out, and instead-- keep getting it wrong. Don't tell me that birth control isn't 100% effective, because that seems to only affect one group-- and it isn't the group that values the lives of their children. What do you think they know that eludes the others???
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@mariec7352 NO Doubt that you're confused. The group that advocates terminating their unplanned children, in the name of convenience, because they get it wrong is the obvious answer to your 1st question. How do you not get that? The MILLIONS who seem to know how to effectively utilize their preventative birth control and have their families according to plan, by contrast against those who don't, is the obvious answer to your 2nd question.
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@Maksie0 How do you figure, being that all women are born female???
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We need asylums
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@Tora!!!!!! Well 2 things... First thing is: Hopefully, you'll learn about proper pronoun usage and understand how to use them more effectively in the future. The second thing is: Don't be surprised when others decide the same thing (regarding being judgmental) and apply the same standard to you and dismiss you-- and any consideration for your preferred pronouns as irrelevant-- in their judgement, because you're just not that important to give consideration to.
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Perspective: Biological women are the only kind of women. Trans people aren't 'trans' anything. A woman is an adult, human, female and that biological category is fixed and permanent They're (Trans-humans) still the same sex and gender prior to altering their appearance and messing w/ their natural body chemistry, as they are after.
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Because women don't post the same degree of potential threat to men as trans women ie. Men do to women
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That's by design. Activist trolls are stoking the flames in their echo chamber, and silencing dissenting viewpoints, because they are the fringe minority-- and they have to do that because their incoherent narratives don't stand up to scrutiny-- and they KNOW It
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That is so ignorant, if you had half a clue-- you'd be embarrassed to be that lame in public
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No... Respect is reserved for that which is respectable, and it's earned
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Who are you to judge their friendship, if they're fine with it? Pure narcissistic, arrogance
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@dakotareib I refuted many of your statements. You've refuted exactly NONE of mine and you've failed to answer any of my questions. You're Dismissed as less than useless. Congratulations, you failed to justify your ideological position.... advocating in favor of terminating the innocent. Ghoulish
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@aurora9252 Nope, and never will be
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@Bluishxtra So you're making an argument against the safety of prescribing hormones/puberty blockers for children re: their gender confusion-- due to the long-term negative side affects?
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There's no phobia when recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim to be. It's just being observant of objective reality
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Do you reside in a psych ward?
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@Maksie0 Telling the undisputed truth isn't bullying
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Life is worth living. Why do you disagree?
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@katherinetanks632 You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, prescribe hormones etc., and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon, and if you think it does-- you're delusional. Putting on a disguise doesn't change ones gender
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@katherinetanks632 Gay people are males. Lesbian people are females. That confuses you?? I'm pretty sure they recognize the differences between male and female. What's your excuse?? Intersex isn't another gender in the binary. It's a birth defect DSM5 lists it as a psych disorder I recommend looking into the interviews of those who are de-transitioning. I don't presume there are cures for all ill's or we'd all be happy, healthy and immortal. Why do you?? There are those born with both medical defects and psych defects/disorders, neither of which disprove the binary.
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@poilaaliop Gender, referencing the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male and female -- the specific term trans seem to illustrate that which is outside of the binary cis norm
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Intersex is a birth defect, where the individual has organs of both sexes male & female (Often non-functional) and they do not present another sex in the binary, and for that reason-- they don't invalidate the binary at all. Those with organs from both sexes are extremely rare and NONE are able to reproduce by themselves. Not a new sex/gender Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), with gender
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@foop2954 Too many conflate gender/sex (There are 2-- male/female) with personality traits and temperament (there are a ton)
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Eff that. Respect is earned and they haven't earned it
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@remwifeyy You wouldn't use pronouns when talking directly to a friend. You'd use their name. Pronouns are only used when speaking about someone to another.
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Both male and female already have their own restrooms
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@RotisserieiJamie No, they want 60+ restrooms for each possible permutation of an ever shifting fluid identity. It's nuts
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@markusbaker1161 The logic it takes to say that someone who has a host of other behavioral/mental disorders (as nearly all dealing with transgenderism do) and is willing to mutilate themselves in irreversible fashion to achieve a status wherein they're still dozens of times more likely to commit sui**de ISN'T mental illness, is amazingly twisted. Insert any other condition and any other incessant desire to self-harm and there would be no dispute whatsoever.
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@culverculver922 I'm not sure who you're quoting, but it isn't me. You seem to be suffering from some sort of cognitive impairment-- possibly caused by a blunt force trauma to the head. Doctors don’t assign gender they identify it, otherwise in a patriarchal society everyone would be male because-- apparently we’re worth more. Foolishness for all to see. The imagination (which you seem to be using synonymously with 'gender') doesn't transform biology, reality, or anyone's DNA-- Even if they REALLY believe it (which would illustrate that they're delusional). Like I said, you could have a surgeon transform your appearance to look like a Klingon, but that doesn't make you a Klingon-- even if you Reeaaallllly believe it-- either. If the chromosome doesn't have a Y, it isn't a guy. Intersex isn't another gender-- it's a birth defect and an anomaly. The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule-- They prove the rule, hence being the exceptions It's XX, XY, Birth Defect... That's It
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@c2dajayy Gotta watch the logic... It does Not compute with the left
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The prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female and trans women are not that. They're men. It's not complicated
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@markusbaker1161 I'm Not wrong... You are
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not the one advocating extreme makeovers which include mutilating their body's.
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@markusbaker1161 You say that as if it somehow alters the fact that trans women are still men, and it doesn't
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@markusbaker1161 And yet-- here you are
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@markusbaker1161 You're not making any changes here. Why not take your own advice?
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@markusbaker1161 There was never any doubt about it. It's clearly apparent, that the topic is over your head
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@markusbaker1161 How do they differ from the rights they already have as men or women, respectively?
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@markusbaker1161 What do you mean? That's my question to you, when you reference transgender rights-- but you've been avoiding answering it. Apparently, you don't know what you mean when using the term transgender rights
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@markusbaker1161 If you're going to leave it to me to define them, then No-- I do not, as I only recognize the rights of males and females. The social construct that is transgenderism is lunacy, imo
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@markusbaker1161 I don't know what you're talking about because despite several attempts to get you to define them, you have not
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@markusbaker1161 I wouldn't, because the rights of men and women are already established in my country. You're the one that keeps bringing them up. Why don't you define what it is you're referring to?
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, mental illness and physical disorders have existed from the beginning of time-- as a part of humanity. Transgender people are valid people, who suffer with various "issues". Their identity being disconnected from reality being invalid, isn't the same thing. That you can't wrap your head around the nuance is intentional blindness on your part, or it's actual cluelessness on your part. It's of no consequence either way. I am correct and you are not
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@markusbaker1161 Your disagreement isn't in any way any sort of evidence proving my statements incorrect or invalid at all. Your nonsense doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Make the case for why someone who's XY should be considered XX (As would necessarily be the case, to substantiate the statement that trans women are women) or trans XX. Ready... Go... Make it make sense You've got nothing substantive so far. You're batting 0 of 1000
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@markusbaker1161 You haven't made the case for why someone who's XY should be considered XX (As would necessarily be the case, to substantiate the statement that trans women are women) or trans XX-- and neither has science or anyone else. Why not try being relevant for a change?
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@TheLegendOfRandy So you clearly still haven't figured out how to be relevant, or justify terminating the unborn in the womb- when the mother's life isn't in imminent peril.
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Monkey see, monkey do
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Why? Both are people portraying/pretending to be something they're not
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Looks like a lot of people still haven't figured out that gender in not synonymous with personality traits and temperament yet
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@TheLegendOfRandy If they exercised self-control and prudent, cautious responsibility, having dominion over their own body's, they wouldn't be facilitating their own dilemma like feral cats in heat.
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@TheLegendOfRandy Like I said, If women exercised self-control and prudent, cautious responsibility, having dominion over their own body's, they wouldn't be facilitating their own dilemma like feral cats in heat. They have no one else to blame for risking their own unwanted pregnancy, but themselves.
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@jessemccowan6694 They should limit their comments to speaking for themselves.
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@swoosh4588 Most of the echo chamber commenters are activist trolls and morons.
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@Mari-il4bw No, women make more attempts, so is that because they're more screwed up? Men just succeed more often, because men tend to use lethal means of force by comparison.
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@emmelenenapier5800 Having emotions isn't the issue. Being overly-emotionally reactive-- IS. Try to focus
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@emmelenenapier5800 That's not much of a refutation. Having emotions isn't the issue. Being overly-emotionally reactive-- IS. Try to focus You seem to have nominated yourself the comment monitor, however; you should limit your own comments to those which are actually substantive and relevant. I'm not trying to persuade anyone to use pronouns... that's what the narrative wants from me-- and so far... having failed to address my comments directly-- you fail to persuade. You're really going to have to do better
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Sociopathic tendencies
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Exactly correct
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@jeezalexa I can only post the facts for you. I can't "Understand" them FOR you too. That's all on you and I'm afraid that, "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell So-- best of luck with that reading comprehension deficit
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@jeezalexa Quit conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. It only highlights your ignorance and denial of reality
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@markusbaker1161 What does your ignorance have to do with the facts which exist despite your admission of ignorance??? There's no science anywhere which proves men can become women, so your narrative is out of gas. You lost-- move on
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AND-- To ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish them well in the coming situation, where as a feminist they'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are women
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@mariec3733 Terminating the lives of the innocent is Totally unjustifiable.
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@Maksie0 That's the sound of rejection. Cope Harder
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Think deeper thoughts
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@mariec3733 Not even remotely possible without a woman 1st consenting to risk pregnancy. I didn't do most of the heavy lifting so to speak, as it goes to dealing with the pregnancy's gestation period or the delivery-- But, raising him as a single parent-- to eventually become the successful, happy and well-adjusted person he is today, I definitely played the lead role, if that's what you're getting at. Why do you ask?
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@mariec3733 I have never heard of a male creating a child by themselves, without a woman involved in the process. Have you? Well... Have you? Answer: No, you have not. All of your nonsense, trolling and stalking just to attempt to pretend a woman doesn't have any culpability for their choices to risk pregnancy, as if they had no control to avoid an unwanted pregnancy (Obviously not talking about a rape). What's up with that?
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@mariec3733 Look, women that want to avoid an unwanted pregnancy, have the obligation to avoid it. Those women also have the means to do so, and appear to be without excuse. Men aren't to blame if women fail to avoid the avoidable. Those women failed themselves. How have they not?
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There's nothing phobic about recognizing that they aren't that which they claim to be. It just makes the observer, observant of objective reality
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@Maksie0 Your inane comments aren't true, not matter how many times you pretend they are when you repeat them
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@markusbaker1161 No worries. You do you. I'm not going to ignore what I can observe with my own eyes, and promote make believe, or cater to feelings by pretending that the identity of people who identify as something they're not in reality, is valid. They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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Wait... They said gender is fluid and disconnected from biology, so how then, is there male privilege? It's incoherent
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Quit inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender.
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@Maksie0 Reality Check: You're the vast minority
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Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1.) Your body and brain develop & grow together -> You simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2.) Hating a part of you body so much, that you cut it off, is a mental illness.
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Being a woman doesn't cease when you reach the age of menopause, or have a hysterectomy, or are just infertile. Just clarifying for the sake of precision.
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Women are in charge of their body's, and are responsible for creating a new separate life, with their autonomous bodies. They should do a better job of being responsible, to avoid creating another human with autonomy if they' aren't prepared to have a baby and the narrative has failed to justify their irresponsibility or their choice to terminate the lives that they created.
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@TheLegendOfRandy It is a response to you. Just because you don't like the response, invalidates nothing whatsoever. You seem to be trying very hard to justify the termination of the innocent in the womb. Pitiful
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What's respectable about accepting fiction as fact?
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@Erik-fn7kj I stand corrected. You're now batting 1, out of 1000. Your goal of acceptance seems to be being thwarted by your own abrasive character, not inspiring others to embrace your narrative. Intentional or oversight?
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@Maksie0 It's been explained to you lot through the comment section. Do Better
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@jbert423 I think that gender dysphoria is a mental illness, yes. I am not under the impression that it's normal. Why are you? No, I don't think shock treatment is of any value, and I don't think pity is a cure or useful. You wrote, "You see being trans as something that should be cured as opposed to accommodated or understood by others." "Accommodated"??? Why wouldn't you want someone with a mental illness to be cured, if it were actually possible?
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@jbert423 I think that many (like you) inappropriately conflate the variability in temperament and personality traits (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) w/gender
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@jbert423 Yes, I do, however; I don't think many who claim to be trans suffer from gender dysphoria, but are instead indulging their need for attention, and are inappropriately categorizing themselves, or are being categorized by others inappropriately-- under the gender dysphoria umbrella. You seem triggered and irrational about that. You have no answers to my questions? hmmmm
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@cj4ebay Perhaps, though-- "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@Maksie0 To watch them expose activist hacks like Blossom. It's Funny as h3ll
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@Maksie0 Why would anyone listen to someone like you, who can't decipher the difference between men and women???
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What's your point? If a woman 'chooses' to risk pregnancy, by engaging in the act which causes pregnancy-- and does so irresponsibly, failing to acknowledge that it is TOTALLY avoidable-- Realize that afterwards is too late, because now you have to deal with the consequences. Just sayin...
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@wickxd9929 Feel free to look it up and refute it if you dare. However, the actual number of abortions due to rape is actually miniscule. Six states have surveyed 2.44 million women over the time period 1996-2020 who had abortions and found that only 0.39% chose abortion because of rape or incest — that's one out of every 250. 5 according to, a Human Life International stats
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Gender is Not a social construct. Gender roles are social constructs, and they refer to the roles of males and females-- without exception. Way too many inappropriately conflate Gender/sex (There are only 2 male/female... That's it) with Personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and gender roles (Which vary from culture to culture, country to country and society to society and without exception they're all long-established cultural norms, regarding the roles of males and females in those cultures, countries, and societies) as though they're all synonymous- and they are not. All women are born female, all men are born male and neither are social constructs, fetishes, feelings or costumes
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@crystlelakefarm1254 Then-- Take your own advice and STFU and mind your own business.
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@TheLegendOfRandy ?? Why would someone like you, who goes out of their way to be dishonest/disingenuous in your interactions, expect a caricature of you mocking your commentary and narratives, to be honest? Anyway, those who don't suffer from a massive reading comprehension deficit will see That's what I have been doing consistently.
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@TheLegendOfRandy Don't be a coward... the pending questions remain: Why don't/can't you raise your own? I raised mine, as a single parent. Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can choose to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, and poor family planning-- don't?
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@mariec7352 The fail rate is the same for those who don't seem to have difficulty effectively family planning and using their birth control products and methods. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, don't?
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@shmainginyt5421 FWIW, your preferred pronouns are irrelevant. I choose the words I use-- Not you. It's ridiculous and the height of arrogance to believe, that your desire to be perceived as something that you are not creates an obligation to indulge you. NEWSFLASH: It does Not
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@shmainginyt5421 BTW, I refuted your claim saying gender dysphoria is not a mental disorder. I refuted your claim that it was a physical problem, showing it to be a psych problem. I showed that you're conflating the variability in temperament and personality type with gender, inappropriately. You failed to give a single of example of mammals having a single exception. You're out of your depth. You should quit, while you're behind
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No, reality is objective, that's how science operates. Try again?
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@Erik-fn7kj Science fiction, No. Political science in place of medical science, No. Look, it's XX, XY, or Birth defect. That's it.-- Science Having been a behavior modification specialist for many years, working with the developmentally disabled-- I realize that validating a person's delusions resulting from a mental illness isn't how you help or treat them. I mean, you don't tell a person with schizophrenia who's insisting that the toaster is talking to them and telling them to do harm to themselves or others that they're correct, or by validating their delusional belief that they can fly, as they prepare to jump off the roof of a building, in the name of empathy. Get Real
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If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? crickets... The ideology is incoherent
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@ii954 There is no such thing as trans. They're not trans ANYTHING. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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Also, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@sodiumso6015 Still innocent human lives
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@mariec3733 I reject your premise, regarding a 'Need' for abortions, but for when the mother's life is in peril.
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@mariec3733 'Could be' vs 'is' seems to cause you difficulty
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@hiddenname1802 Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not.
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No doubt, illustrating that neither men belong in the women's restroom??
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Delusional people don't distinguish objective reality from their delusions
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@thespudtato6009 If that were correct, you'd think the sewer-slide rate would indicate a decline after transitioning, but it doesn't appear to impact that to be less that nearly 10x's the norm. They're not trans anything. Still male or female, respectively-- just with an elaborate effort to change their appearance, not unlike someone getting their face tattooed (Doesn't change their sex or gender-- either). The big 5 are Extroversion, Neuroticism, Agreeableness, Conscientiousness, and Openness. Many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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A woman is an adult, human, female. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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@mariec3733 Trans is the fringe-- women aren't the opposite of trans, they're the standard which trans women are trying to emulate-- making the cis distinction entirely irrelevant and redundant
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@conor.3875 No, it's my observation that's the women's objection to being labeled cis, and Blossom continuing anyway, I'd argue with the intent to disrespect and provoke is summarily dismissed by you. What's up with that?
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That wasn't much of a substantive refutation. Could you be more vague?
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A phobia is an irrational fear. What fear are you perceiving he had of those women?
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Nobody told them that they're STILL women, just now-- in a permanent disguise playing advanced dress up
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Because that dude is intellectually vacant, morally bankrupt, and spiritually lost
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@megan-wl1ym None of your comments justify terminating the innocent in the womb
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@kiaz1st I'm under no delusion that there is a potential for a meeting of the minds, when it comes to philosophical issues about morality, such as issues like these-- which separate those who value life as something bigger than just an opportunity for self-gratification-- from those, who just don't. Women are not forced to have unprotected sex, so if you want to chase pleasure, you have to bear responsibility for the possible outcomes. No innocent life should face termination because of the lack of responsibility among adults. Imagine if the activists for the whole animal rights movement would stand up for the rights of unborn humans, the same way they stand up for animal's and their offspring's rights.
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@kiaz1st The morals and ethics of those who would declare the unborn to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are questionable-- at Best, and are those of narcissists and sociopaths.
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@Jay-jaya-02 Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable... that's why sovereign nations have borders. You sure are doing a lot of mental gymnastics to ignore the fact that the child which is in the womb, is there because the mother facilitated herself becoming pregnant, when choosing to risk an unwanted pregnancy, by engaging in the one and only act which causes her totally avoidable, self-inflicted dilemma. It is a living, developing human-- unlike a bacteria, so you're still failing to justify terminating the life of the innocent. Innocent baby's shouldn't be terminated because adults can't act responsibly. So, again-- I'll ask you, How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one of a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences?
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Leftists: "Anything I don't like must be banned, Also-- anything I do like must be paid for and made possible by others"
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@markusbaker1161 I meant, okay-- you're entitled to be wrong. Competent adults do their own research to confirm information for themselves. i reject your narratives-- and am not interested in indulging your intellectual diarrhea any longer. You've gone out of your way to be an insufferable twat-- so expecting integrity from you is not logical nor reasonable. You fail to make your case. Deal with it and move on. Your opinion has proven to be without value, and substance-free
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@Maksie0 Evidence??? 🦗🦗🦗
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@briannachilders772 Then using the trans prefix is entirely odd. Nonetheless-- It appears that you haven't figured out that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender yet. Look into it
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@But...WhyTho That's not a refutation by any standard or measure. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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@jesss6410 The final say on whether or not women are willing to risk themselves getting pregnant, when facilitating it-- is why they have no one to blame but themselves for their avoidable, and self-inflicted dilemmas. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences?
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@markusbaker1161 Looks like it's a yes regarding incompetence... Dealing with you is SO much like communicating with a late teen, who acts like they know everything, and can't don't anything for themselves unsupervised. Grow up! You're Ridiculous. Trends in sui**de de*th risk in transgender people: results from the Amsterdam Cohort of Gender Dysphoria study (1972-2017) Analyze the effectiveness of affirmation when you realize that the rate isn't affected even after transition.
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Because males present a bigger threat to women than women do to men. 'Cisgender' is a cult term used to pretend that there's another kind of woman other than those born female--BUT, there isn't. ALL women are born female. There are exactly ZERO exceptions
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Beat it groomer
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:face-blue-smiling::face-green-smiling:🤣 There's no irrational fear involved in recognizing that men aren't the women they present themselves as. That's just being observant
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Wait... They said gender is fluid and disconnected from biology, so how then, is there male privilege? It's incoherent
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Intersex is a genetic disorder which only ever presents with genitalia of males or females; Not a 3rd gender or a psych issue which invalidates the binary of all mammalian species
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They have difficulty figuring out which restroom is appropriate, and suffer severe anxiety when having to do so. I don't think they comprehend the meanings of a lot of words
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@Erik-fn7kj Cry harder. You're mad because we don't see you as you see yourself, and we aren't falling for your disguise... Now, go cry about it. You don't accept yourself, so go through elaborate measures to transform your appearance into something you're not, and expect to be accepted for your disguise, as opposed to being accepted for who and what you really are. Those women are still women, despite their efforts to appear like men It's XX, XY, Birth Defect. Deal with it
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@athena6961 Of course it takes 2, however; She's the gatekeeper of her own body, and the one who risks her body w/ an unwanted pregnancy. It occurs to me that she has an obligation to herself to avoid it, regardless of ANYONE else's thoughts on Her choosing to risk it or not. The guy may not have a problem w/her getting pregnant. Has that not occurred to you? My point is, the power to avoid the avoidable unwanted pregnancy of their own body's rests w/ women. fwiw-- Not all men are pro choice, and none are getting pregnant, or choosing FOR millions of women to continue to facilitate their risks, or choose terminate their own children, MANY-- more than once.
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Why should the men being referred to as trans women, be treated as though they're women-- since they're not?
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By design
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@tuberculosis8080 They're arguing that he isn't that which he claims to be. That's just being observant of objective reality. Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@cloydxx 1 MILLION up votes
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What do you think that means?
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It's just a clump words 😏
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@ＯＦＡＲＡ Your view seems to go sideways with the notion that a girl, trapped in a male body, and that the male identity is immutable since birth, being the justification for transition surgery-- illustrates the notion of gender being disconnected from biology and merely a social construct as just wrong. When someone's brain and biology aren't 'concordant', a psych evaluation is highly recommended. If they're just playing dress up and indulging their own kink and perversions, that doesn't make them the gender that they're pretending to be. Truth People who don't transition, are men in a dress and makeup, or women altering their appearance, and pretending to be something they are not. People who do transition, are still their original sex-- just altered to look different. Similar to a nose job... ZERO affect on their sex or gender IF gender is a social construct, there would be no reason to alter one's appearance, as they would simply be the gender they identify with at the moment, no matter their appearance or biology. Nope your explanation is incoherent If gender is fluid, and not biological-- Why the need/desire/proclivity to play dress up, or more drastically use surgical alterations, etc.? Aren't they already identifying as what they are? Ya, doesn't make sense. Your explanation pretty much destroys the narrative that the trans-community falls under the same umbrella though aka incoherent. The ridiculous notion that the world needs to accept those who can't accept themselves-- as they are, but rather must accept them as their delusional sense of self would dictate-- is ludicrous. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect or evidence that a psych evaluation and treatment commence immediately-- That's It. Period, FULL Stop Alone in the shower alone, they know they're a guy Found damaged and unconscious in a wreck, the EMT's know he's a guy Dead on a slab, the Coroner knows he's a guy Archaeologists finding his bones and DNA, Knows he's a guy. He's a guy pretending to be a girl, or vice versa-- a girl pretending to be a guy, or just openly perverted. Be honest about it
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They aren't trans ANYTHING. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after.
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@eveliinahannele Pure nonsense. Quit Trolling... What rights?
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@eveliinahannele In the case of rape, definitely. In the rest of cases (the other 99% of cases), how are women not the responsible party, for risking their body's?
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@mariec3733 Liar. Don't quote and credit me with something I never wrote. I said in the case of rape men were to blame for pregnancy. That's not the same thing, and to assert it is-- is devoid from intelligence and reason
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@Jurnicurn How do you think the baby got in there, but for a woman choosing to risk her own totally avoidable dilemma-- when facilitating it, by choosing to engage in the one and only activity that could actually cause her totally avoidable dilemma? I'll try to break it down for you... Life is valuable, not disposable, and advocating in favor of terminating children is devoid of virtue, honor, and morality. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one of a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences? 🦗🦗🦗 Innocent baby's shouldn't be terminated because adults can't act responsibly
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@RageNoyd Women are not forced to have unprotected sex, so if they want to chase pleasure, they have to bear responsibility for the possible outcomes. No innocent life should face termination because of the lack of responsibility among adults. The 'Pro'-choice they're in favor of maintaining-- is the ability to terminate the child in the womb, in the name of convenience and it's shameful. The morals and ethics of those who would declare the unborn to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are questionable-- at Best, and are those of narcissists and sociopaths.
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Womanhood isn't a costume one can simply put on. Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@conor.3875 The baby's body, which the woman facilitated by engaging in the one and only act which causes that which they wished to avoid-- isn't the woman's to terminate. That's the point
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@mariec7352 If a mother's life is in imminent peril and nothing is done, she and the fetus/baby perish-- as it cannot survive at the 20 week +/- marker, outside of the mother-- for the VAST majority-- when those decisions typically required to be made, and so seems to be in a not dissimilar category as suffering a miscarriage, as it goes to the fate of the unborn's termination. How is it not? Why do you appear to have a problem with women being able to save their lives? Looks like it Sucks to be you. Once again, you didn't comprehend a single response given. If you don't care about a woman's culpability in preventing her own unwanted pregnancy, why and how does, as you've done continually-- pointing to a man's contribution matter? It's not like she could get pregnant, if she didn't facilitate and enable her own risk factors and ensuing dilemma. What do you think she needs to figure out, that millions of other women seem to have figured out-- related to avoiding their unwanted pregnancy's? Why does personal accountability and responsibility appear to trigger a response from you that looks like desperation, as you try to reassign blame and avoid a woman's personal accountability at any cost, in her role of facilitating her unwanted pregnancy? You've failed to explain your thoughts adequately. How do you continually fail to account for those facts and factor them into your analysis and conclusions?
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@mariec3733 They do-- when they say that a trans-woman is a woman. It's seems you're still trolling for sport.
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@angelflorence A fetus is a stage of development for all living mammals. A fetus in a human, is in fact a human and can be no other kind of fetus. Fyi-- it's alive. Dead things do not grow
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@B.Hillsdon Yes, I shouldn't have presumed the intellectual capacity to get the point and make the distinction that roosters don't lay eggs because they're not female chickens was present. My bad
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@asielia There is now
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@jadena2992 If you can't accept yourself for what you actually are, I refuse to accept you for what you actually aren't. One could alter their appearance to look like a Klingon if they choose, and it doesn't actually make them a Klingon, and those who think it does are delusional. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Thoughts?? I wouldn't play along with someone w/ anorexia, by affirming their desire to continue to lose weight, either-- for the same reason. Feeding a dissociative condition by affirming it, doesn't help anything.
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@9898alexis Dinner and drinks aren't necessarily "Cheap". Birth control pills are not a huge expense, especially if you go to planned parenthood, and if they get condoms-- they aren't expensive, so what is your point??? Get Real
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@mariec3733 You're writhing away from accountability with all your efforts to avoid the fact that your pregnancy (If you were actually a woman-- and we know you're not) is all your own damned fault, precisely because you were not responsible with the choices you made-- so own it. I love that the 5 D's of Dodgeball: Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive and Dodge trigger you. Thanks for the confirmation If you're in Texas, and in over 20 other states and growing-- it's no longer an option, so you're going to have to deal with the real consequences of your actions, so choose wisely. LOL
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@ashianagi9521 No... A pregnancy is the creation of a new life, now growing inside a female. Any basic biology textbook, in the chapter dealing with reproduction, will cover it under fertilization. The mother's time frame, to choose to deal with "her own body", is prior to conception, because afterwards-- come the consequences, leading to someone else's body too.
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@markusbaker1161 The layman's terms is-- 'Crazy people', (guys who think they're the opposite sex are dissociative and delusional) doing crazy sh*t, isn't exactly out of character or surprising. Deal with it
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@BlackRoyalty-hh8tb You appear to be under the impression that I was quoting you. I was not. I was pointing out the incoherence in the ideology, by showing that it's inappropriately and incorrectly conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament with gender.
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Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not. They're Re-defining things so their ideological activist narrative appears to be based in objective reality, but it just doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects associated with being male or female, respectively. If/when they want to call me trans-phobic-- I really couldn't care less. There's no there-- there. They can rename men 'trans', and it changes nothing relevant but the name. It doesn't change them or make them women or illustrate that they're trans anything. If their subjective identity is predicated on the notion that society needs to ignore objective reality, then that identity is not valid-- as far as I'm concerned, and none have persuaded me that it is, or even that it should be. Nonetheless, my observations regarding so many of the comments of the trans-activists, are that they have not illustrated any respect for women or their private spaces by advocating in favor of men being allowed to infiltrate their spaces. They can't answer why men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim that they're women.
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I expect that people who aren't prepared to risk pregnancy and deal with the consequences avoid them, and for someone with some integrity to inform them that the world doesn't owe them a life free from adversity.
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More like delusional men vs women
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@markusbaker1161 Why do you so easily dismiss their privacy considerations? The women who are being called cis by trans women against their will and having their privacy encroached on against their will believe their considerations matter too, might wonder why they don't get that same consideration and note that it's the height of misogyny to mansplain what it is to be a woman -- to them
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@n.m8287 My Bad... I can't believe the feminists aren't absolutely furious about this. Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology as in their near future-- they'll be oppressed by men like Blossom who claim they're women.
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"It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@harpoonmcfierce9697 Civilization being the operative description. Not all cultures or civilizations are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable That's why... Sovereign nations have borders guarded by people w/ weapons. Think Deeper thoughts Males (pronouns are irrelevant) are necessary to reproduce, and since people are mortal, it's perpetual that people continue to reproduce. How is this confusing for you?
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@Roxana Blacksea Biological, are the ONLY kind of women which exist.
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@justyana488 "Socialism has a history of failure, so blatant- that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it".-- T. Sowell
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If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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@markusbaker1161 It does expose the silliness of the asserted narrative
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not talking about feelings. I'm talking about facts. The fact that you and others are conflating and confusing fact, fiction, and feelings about them-- is a problem, but it isn't mine
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not conflating the difference between males and females, men and women, or boys and girls. What are you talking about? The truth is that the 1 requirement for being woman is being female. Your failure to acknowledge it, changes nothing
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Not too bright... because he's not too bright. Dude is LARPing
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@letsvote393 What's stopping you?
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@letsvote393 And you figure the illegals are people of means?
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I am merely making the observation that women are the one's who choose to risk themselves getting pregnant, and that the power to avoid an unwanted pregnancy is ALL up to them. How is that not totally accurate?
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@mariec3733 She had all of her autonomy, when she chose to risk pregnancy. Try to focus
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@hollyh9877 Since women are the ones who risk their bodies getting pregnant, when they facilitate the pregnancy by choosing to allow men to lay with them-- they aren't being forced into their choice to risk it
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There are people. They are male or female, respectively. That status is permanent and fixed. There are segments of each which present with various physical and psych disorders, none of which invalidates the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species.
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Why do you think we have laws against terminating the lives of the innocent?
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@mariec3733 says the person who thought men could get pregnant? 🤡
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@sodiumso6015 You said it's not a life. What do you think pregnancy is? You appear to wish to argue for argument's sake. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual virtue in your comments.
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 @sodiumso6015 Irony? 🤡 You definitely fail to persuade, but that's mostly because you haven't bothered to make an affirmative case.
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@Maksie0 There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born females-- so now you know. Those are dudes
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@mariec3733 You look triggered, Karen
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@Maksie0 Science says, if their chromosomes don't have a Y-- it's not a guy. Liberals want to give your children hormone blockers, inject them with poison, shame them for their skin color, teach them to be gay, allow them to be groomed by pedophiles and give control of them over to the state. The sad part is that I don't have to exaggerate these claims. They openly support this evil. You are watching the death spiral of the Democractic party.
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Developmental sex disorders aren't evidence of another sex invalidating the binary of all mammalian species. Gender is not disconnected from biology. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There are people and they are males and females and there are segments of both which present with various birth defects, psych disorders, and some with both-- none of which are evidence of other genders invalidating the binary. It's XX (Female), XY (Male), and a variety of Birth defects/disorders within segments of each ... neither of which display sex organs other than that found in the binary. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. They need to learn how to Cope Harder
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I don't get it... If someone gets implants in their @ss and identifies as a Centaur-- That doesn't make them one, but that seems to be the rational of those suggesting that altering one's appearance and identifying as the opposite sex actually makes them that which they identify as... Make it make sense
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@Maksie0 That didn't explain anything. Make being relevant your new 'thing'
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@Maksie0 How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@athena6961 And you didn't answer any of them. Why is that? I'm not under the impression that there is a middle ground place for a meeting of the minds between those who value life, and those who do not and who further categorize it as disposable, in the name of convenience.
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@toritori5835 Then, why don't you install it and run it for yourself, for your playback preferences? Or Purchase an Eventide Harmonizer, and engineer a different gender to the voice if you like, or make them sound like Darth Vader, or whatever... You seem to be under the impression that your personal problems are so important to the entire world, that the world owes you a remedy... That's Wrong If your ears are broken, no sound engineer is going to be able to fix that for you.
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@toritori5835 Well, that's not an answer. It doesn't appear that you want to remedy your issue after all. You appear to just be attention-seeking, as if to say 'Look at me, I'm a victim'. Well, tell it to a therapist.
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@Random_Cassie Well instead of sniveling and virtue signaling like a puffed up peacock, how about you tell me where your comment justifies terminating the innocent in the womb. Ya-- it does not. I recommend being relevant, in the future
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People w/ face tattoos, a zillions piercings etc... do that too-- and it doesn't change their sex or gender either. Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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Why? It isn't as if there aren't hundreds of millions of religious people who don't also have opinions which shape their cultures and societies the world over
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@markusbaker1161 The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@mollyvirgo4357 That the baby is alive, is human, and is in fact a baby, not a cyst, and a separate life from the mother, with it's own blood supply. How is that confusing for you?
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@mariec3733 Again... You're trolling in stalker mode now. LOL Birth control is a means for preventing you from getting pregnant. It doesn't always work, and you know that-- so YOU assume the risk of getting pregnant, when you're out there creating the risk you say you're desperately trying to avoid. You just want an easy pass to be promiscuous without any consequences. Well, there's no such thing. Please NEVER procreate. Get your tubes tied, since you have such a vested interest in maintaining your pursuit of promiscuity on demand
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@73748 Just covering the bases.
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@73748 Me too... I use the ones I want, not the ones dictated by others
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@markusbaker1161 This is sad that we live in a world where grown adult men, who identify with stereotypical feminine traits, believe that they are women.
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@freedommatters7677 Well, it's seems relevant-- as there's no room to complain about it, when you're in charge (as a woman) of either preventing or creating your own dilemma
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@mariec3733 Neither did you, and here you are
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"It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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Cope Harder... Recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim, isn't being any kind of phobe-- it's just being observant of objective reality. It seems like there's a lot of people who are inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament with gender, as if they're synonymous, and they just aren't.
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The child which is in the womb, is there because the mother facilitated herself becoming pregnant, when choosing to risk an unwanted pregnancy, by engaging in the one and only act which causes her totally avoidable, self-inflicted dilemma. How smart is that? I can name that tune in no notes (Not at all smart) Innocent baby's shouldn't be terminated because adults can't act responsibly. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than that of a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences?
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@Haven161 I can't comment intelligently about why it is that you processed my comments they way you have, but that in no way refutes my comments, and again fails to answer my questions. You come across as quite disingenuous
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@Maksie0 No doubt you hear that a lot
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@KenzLovesMovies The problem you have is that life is based in objective reality, which exposes your narratives, as intellectually vacant. Choosing to call an apple an orange, doesn't alter the nature of an apple nor an orange. Your preferences re: s3xu@l matters don't alter whether or not you're male or female, and neither does choosing self mutil@tion or castration. The thing is, societies which have been long established, and steeped in tradition aren't obligated to abandon their established cultural norms to support a counter-culture ideology. To suggest that they owe it to you is the height of narcissism and arrogance. It's for YOU to integrate into the society which you choose to be in, not for them to change for you. Sheesh.... That sound you're hearing is the sound of rejection from the vast majority of the people on earth, of the trans-activist, ideological, cult narratives. Nobody owes you. Cope Harder
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I see them wrestling with conflating personality traits and temperament with gender, as though they're synonymous-- and they are not
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@Maksie0 Recognizing objective reality isn't delusional, but denying it based on one's subjective imaginary fantasy-- IS.
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You can dress up perversity as diversity, but you're only fooling yourself if you think your self perceived fantasy is representative of reality.
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@krasmasov6852 No, not wrong. Accurate
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@jillian9183 That is not what that's referring to. You should get a refund from your civics teachers.
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@GAYmergirl709 A woman is an adult, human female and-- they aren't that, so how do you figure?
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@mariec3733 I see that it says 2 comments (3 now with my reply to you), but only 1 (yours, that I'm replying to) is visible-- regardless of if I'm logged in or logged out
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@mariec3733 You've repeatedly ignored that I wrote, 'with the exception being the life of the mother being in imminent peril' over and over and over again and again, so you're not contemplating all of the necessary information, to reach an intelligent conclusion.
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@evanmyerslover No-- you aren't. Same as you ever were. Enjoy the cosplay and LARPing--
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@Maksie0 I accept that there are people. They are male and female, and segments of each present w/ various physical disorders and various psych disorders, some with both. People like Blossom aren't trans anything. There merely caricatures of that which they wish they could be, and never will-- women
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@mariec3733 Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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Google it. There are tons of horror stories
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@Maksie0 Why would someone who believes they're a woman wish to have the cis or trans distinction drawn? That's Odd
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This entire comment section is filled with single damaged goods - women over 30, and activist trolls and confused teenagers
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There's no such thing as trans. There are males and females... That's it. A woman isn't a costume that men can simply put on. Women aren't a social construct. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those men weren't. Now you know
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@mariec3733 Depends on how you look at it. A woman is capable of making smart choices. If knowing a pregnancy is unwanted-- risking it, by choosing to engage in the act which causes it, is clearly tempting fate and why women should mitigate their risks since pregnancy is the natural result and consequence of having sex. Why, since men do not risk getting themselves pregnant-- do they have more of a responsibility to avoid YOU getting pregnant than you do?
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Perhaps since difference mixed races are possible, is the thought??
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Their correct bathroom? Those dudes aren't banned from using the male restroom. What are you talking about? Evidence to support your claim??
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@targaryen7049 The word fetus literally means unborn. In 99%+ of cases they weren't forced into facilitating their own totally avoidable dilemma, and in the other 1% of cases-- the resulting child isn't less valuable because one of their parents was bad
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Nah... He makes himself look bad, and the incoherent narrative speaks for itself
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Most people don't give a crap about that label
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@mariec3733 You get what you give, and you've displayed nothing respectable
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That dude is unhinged from reality and isn't any kind of 'she' or 'her'
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@itsalanaasmr Your virtue-free 'look at me' comment, adding nothing of substance or value to the conversation-- is what's pathetically sad and telling. It's appears that they can't truly accept themselves, but think and act as though others should respect them, and accept them for who and what they'd rather be, as opposed to who and what they really are, and that upsets them? Does that about sum it up?
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Those chics are nuts
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Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable That's why... Sovereign nations have borders
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@kaciek6893 Calling the preborn parasites reveals a lack of scientific understanding. There are many things about this relationship which show it is not parasitic. Mutualism would be the form of symbiosis that exists between a mother and her preborn child. First, the fetus is the same type of organism as the mother. Parasites are different organisms which latch on to another species, causing it harm. Second, parasites are not where they belong, but the preborn child is precisely where it is supposed to be. The natural changes that take place in the woman’s body to make room for this new little human do not damage her body. Although there may be challenges in being pregnant, they are in no way legitimately comparable to the damage and harm a parasite does to another organism. Third, women are able to receive health benefits from the natural, temporary changes that take place in her body. Thanks for playing... You're dismissed. It looks like YOU, who's obviously not done your homework
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@kaciek6893 I appreciate you providing clear evidence of your massive reading comprehension deficit. Ectoparasites: Live on the surface of the body of the host (Not a fetus) Helminths: Worms (Also, not a fetus) Occasional parties: Ex. Mosquitos (Also-- Not a fetus) Looks like you haven't done YOUR homework
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@mariec3733 Well, neither one of you answered my followup question: "how are women not the responsible party, for risking their body's?"-- which exposes the truth you're desperately trying to avoid and btw--failing miserably at refuting, regarding the culpability of women for their own avoidable dilemmas. Now, run along junior
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@mariec3733 Your failure to decipher the reason for the question as a response, is not unexpected. Your analytical capacity appears severely stunted. "Would you have your life today if your father had pulled out the day your were conceived?" Yes, obviously-- as he's in fact here, and clearly at some point his father had to pull out. Opposed to pulling out? No, not if avoiding a pregnancy is the priority. Opposed to pulling out? Yes, If the goal is to facilitate a pregnancy. 🙄
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@markusbaker1161 Life's not fair. Cope Harder. Try searching pub med dot ncbi dot nim dot nih dot gov
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@dinekevinke2268 They're valid people. It's their claims to be something other than what they are, which are invalid
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@vorpal22 Clearly, basic biology confuses you. The child has it's own unique DNA, and blood supply, separate from the mother's, which can be and often is a different type than the mother-- so you're wrong about that too. There are 3 types of parasites. ALL different than the host species-- So you're wrong about that too 1. Protozoa-- Which are single-celled organisms-- Not the same as a fetus-- AT ALL 2. Helminths-- which are worms-- NOT a fetus, AT ALL 3. Ectoparasites-- Which are ticks, fleas, etc...-- NOT a fetus AT ALL Get a Clue.
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Whether the child is wanted or not has nothing to do with the baby being a separate life form with inherent value
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@vorpal22 As I've already shown-- the thread talking points are nonsense, and it looks to me like they're ironically mocking you with other nonsensical comments
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@vorpal22 Always happy to expose nonsensical foolishness from activist trolls for what it is. 😏
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@vorpal22 Well, that's not an answer now is it? (Rhetorical) You're the one that’s supportive of eugenics, by saying that people shouldn’t live in poverty - so your solution is to terminate them. Kick Rocks Fool
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@vorpal22 Perhaps, you should log out-- then come back and look at the comment section. Perhaps you'll see what the rest of the world sees is actually visible. There is no evidence of you establishing anything and no refutations to be seen anywhere. buh bye junior
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@vorpal22 Stop your whining. You required quite a bit of prodding, to begin to have a meaningful dialogue. I mean it isn't as if the comments are invisible. They're all still there. BTW, yes, biologically it takes 2, however; Women ARE to blame for their unwanted pregnancy, that they facilitate, since they 're the only ones who can guarantee the possibility or prevent it (Obviously not discussing an assault, since they're not facilitating it by granting access). The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual 'Virtue' in any of your diatribe or unhinged whinging. Women are the gatekeepers of their own status, and are in charge of choosing to risk pregnancy when they're granting men access, and when they do-- they have no one but themselves to blame. Deal with it. You've refuted nothing whatsoever. The topic is after all, women's unwanted pregnancy, not men's unwanted pregnancy-- since men don't risk getting themselves pregnant, women clearly have a different set of priorities and risks to contend with than men do regarding the consequences of their actions.
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@vorpal22 Don't care. I just appreciate the opportunity to expose you as a troll, and put my refutations of your arguments out there for others- who may be interested in the topic, and who disagree with you and can perhaps use some of my observations and talking point s for themselves when facing the same sort of nonsense from others like you, on the opposite side of the debate. Now, Kick Rocks Junior
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@vorpal22 OK, I will-- If women offer themselves up to men for sex, they are the catalyst for their own avoidable dilemma. The intellectual gymnastics that you've gone through here, to avoid acknowledging the responsibly women have for their own action, is stunning but not surprising. Women know what causes pregnancy, and so-- have no one to blame for their unwanted pregnancy but themselves, when they facilitate the one and only act which causes their avoidable dilemma.
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@vorpal22 I appreciate you going out of your way to prove that you're a lonely and socially awkward troll, while simultaneously illustrating why.
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@vorpal22 You got owned. Move on... 😏
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One is a description of a sexual preference, and the other is a political preference. Were you really confused about that?
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@chinesespybaby129 Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are inappropriately confusing and conflating gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous and they are not, while simultaneously insisting that biological sex and gender are disconnected-- while failing to realize that a subjective identity doesn't alter anyone's biological reality. Lost souls
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@chinesespybaby129 They contradict themselves when they say a trans woman is a woman, while acknowledging that sex and gender are separate and disconnected-- failing to realize that they're admitting that subjective gender identity, when removed from objective reality, doesn't change anyone's biology-- meaning they're still men. It's intellectual bankruptcy
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@eveliinahannele Explain? You believe men are in charge of women? Interesting... How and why do you believe that? If that were the case, there are no women's rights How are men in charge of women choosing to risk pregnancy, and granting access? Why do you say men, as if they are the ones who's body's get pregnant?
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@r.a.l.p.h The final say on whether or not women are willing to risk themselves getting pregnant, when facilitating it-- is why they have no one to blame but themselves for their avoidable self-inflicted dilemmas. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to be more than a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences?
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@Erik-fn7kj Being that the 'Because you said so' standard has been issued exactly ZERO credibility, you're really going to have to do better than that... because it is after all-- your side which is trying to persuade me to use the pronouns you wish, and so far-- you're failing miserably
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Not really. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. They seem to be, as are MANY, inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament, neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys, with gender
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@Maksie0 That's wrong
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@TheLegendOfRandy He says, while failing to answer my question. (Look in the mirror) Your failure to comprehend my answer isn't me dodging your question. I acknowledged that you're making my point FOR me. You just wrote, "Don't men know that 'consent to sex' is not 'consent to sex'". Try Again???
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@user-ky1zz2ih7m Really? Really?? Is that your brilliant take away? 🙄🤕 Obviously, I wasn't referencing rape victims w/ my comment, clearly addressing those who "Choose to risk facilitating" their avoidable dilemma. Has analytical capacity, critical thinking and reading comprehension always been a severe deficit of yours, or did you hit your head really hard at some point?
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@conor.3875 Yes, women do, is the obvious answer
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@conor.3875 How don't you? Has logic and reason always presented a challenge for you?
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@conor.3875 Uh huh... Keep telling yourself that. As women, women have no other way to process anything from any other point of view other than-- as women.
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@conor.3875 Tell that to the community of men who identify as 'women'
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@conor.3875 A woman is an adult, human, female-- which is a permanent biological category
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"It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance."-- T. Sowell
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@austinhendel1569 Zero evidence to support that fantasy either. They're not too bright
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@austinhendel1569 Glad to help highlight the idea
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Society doesn't need to revamp itself to accommodate a minority of psych cases w/ identity issues. It's for THEM to adapt to fit into society
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@Maksie0 You still haven't processed the fact that those are men yet? Have you always had this incredible level of difficulty assimilating facts?
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@Maksie0 They don't seem to have difficulty deciphering the difference between males and females like you do
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Drag and trans are both typically men, portraying the s3xu@l stereotypical caricature of a woman. There's no h8 involved in recognizing that a dude in a dress is a dude. That's just being observant
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It's a giant Psyop, designed to identify then manipulate the sheep, and lead them astray
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@Erik-fn7kj Your lack of capacity to under stand the responses which refute your assertions is noted. It's why you're dismissed as less than useless
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Not another gender. It's a birth defect
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@yakult9618 If you could do that, you'd be able to refute what I'm writing, and That hasn't happened. Try being relevant
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Speaking of facts and needing an education; It's a scientific fact that life begins at conception. Now you know
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@mariec7352 I never said it was. How do you not know that not all sex acts with men, risk pregnancy? Only 1 very specific act does that, and it's a horrible idea if avoiding pregnancy is a priority for the women who do not wish to risk facilitating their own unwanted pregnancy.
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@TheLegendOfRandy You say it's nonsense, but fail to articulate how and why. Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can choose to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, don't?
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@TheLegendOfRandy You think gay sex, or people who are sterile need to worry about achieving unwanted pregnancies? 🥴😵😵‍💫 You seem VERY confused about the topic and seem to have lost the plot-- Again Try to focus on being relevant
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@mariec7352 My remark was a question and NO ONE has been able to answer it. Smart women, who's characters are in tact tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think the women who don't seem to have difficulty effectively utilize their birth control know-- that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, don't? 🦗🦗🦗
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@Erik-fn7kj It's because you can look up the definitions yourself. Don't be a lazy fool
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@piinkmochii They suffer great anxiety when having to select the appropriate restroom, while simultaneously whinging about a white, male-dominated patriarchy at the root of a gender pay gap, while insisting that gender is fluid-- because they're morons. How does the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity, if gender is a social construct? Answer: It doesn't, and that exposes the incoherence of their narrative
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Still-- Both are men in a women's disguise
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@xtalfinn They seem to have a vested interest in suggesting that men, when presenting as women-- should be granted access to women's spaces and that women should be okay with that. That's Odd
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@xtalfinn I recognize that they are males. They aren't trans anything-- regardless of having gender dysphoria or not. If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, I don't see why should those males should have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms
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@NeonCherryBlossum who happen to be delusional men
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They aren't trans anything. Still male or female respectively, the same as they were prior to altering their appearance as they are-- after. That said, The "trans"men-- being women would likely be able to speak about that topic.
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@Eldeecue Whether or not they 1. let the baby live, 2. Keep the baby and raise it, or 3. Give it up for adoption
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@mariec3733 Activist Troll 1 and Eveliina Activist Troll 2 You two should do a tandem jump with out a parachute.
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@mariec3733 Define what is life
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@mariec3733 I find it hilarious that you're confused about the differences between males and females
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders. The incoherent ideology is inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament-- none of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys, w/ gender
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Not knowing the answer to THAT question, how can you be sure the answer will be correct?
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Most women's eyes too
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@conor.3875 Most of the world doesn't have difficulty deciphering the differences between males and females, so it isn't probable
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@conor.3875 That sound you're hearing is the sound of men and women everywhere rejecting your w0ke nonsense. You don't have to believe me-- Ask Budweiser and Target
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@conor.3875 Being relevant, the same reply is to be expected to the same intellectually vacant talking points you continually assert
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@conor.3875 It just cuts through the minutia that you prefer to focus on, and gets straight to the point-- which is that Trans women are men with issues, pretending to be women without issues.
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@mirrormaize They can wear whatever they want-- it still doesn't make them the opposite sex, being the only point that's actually relevant
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Accepting that the individual is choosing to present as a certain gender is not the same as affirming their sense of self as true and / or correct. I accept that there is mental illness
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@Maksie0 Define men
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@Maksie0 Not a single case of any human being born other than male or female-- Ever
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Nonsense
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Birth control is a means for preventing you from getting pregnant. It doesn't always work, and you know that-- so YOU assume the risk of getting pregnant, when you're out there creating the risk you say you're desperately trying to avoid. You just want an easy pass to be promiscuous without any consequences. Well, there's no such thing. Please NEVER procreate. Get your tubes tied, since you have such a vested interest in maintaining your pursuit of promiscuity on demand
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That dude is unhinged from reality. There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female.
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Those dudes will never be women. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those dudes weren't
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Because by default you'd have less dead babies
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@markusbaker1161 The agitator/stalker strikes again... STILL, not a refutation BTW, I'm not the one advocating the ideological narrative that would prefer that I use subjective preferred pronouns, BUT-- You are the advocate who's failed to make the case, and persuade me to reconsider my thoughts, which are still unrefuted. You Fail to persuade. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 Don't have a fit. Trans is the construct, based in fantasy. Sorry to burst your bubble
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@mariec7352 Once again... Just adding additional perspective. Why then, have you and others bothered to bring it up, so many times?
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@mariec7352 Your solution doesn't eliminate the trauma from the one percent of cases where it wasn't their fault, and creates not only one but 2 victims due to an assault, and the other 99% of cases where women are in control-- they're expected to handle their own birth control to avoid the unwanted pregnancy they wish to avoid. It's amazing how far you'll go to avoid recognizing a woman's responsibility for her self, and for her own actions
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@mariec7352 I'm under no delusion that there is a potential for a meeting of the minds, when it comes to philosophical issue about morality, such as issues like these which separate those who value life as something bigger than just an opportunity for self-gratification-- from those like you, who just don't.
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@mariec7352 It's still applies, and illustrates that you don't consider the innocent baby a victim. Like I said, I'm not under the impression that you're interested protecting the innocent lives of children.
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@medusachristo4998 It doesn't even come close to addressing the root cause
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@mariec7352 When asked by HK 4lyfe if you believe all life is valuable -- you said, "All human life? Definitely not. Lol. Have you seen the world lately? I think it's only valuable if we make it just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of than we do to simply enforce more births, which we do not." No worries. I don't expect you to admit to the truth, as you've lied about things I've said many many times, and the comments are all there to validate what I'm saying. I mean it isn't as if you haven't proven that you argue and agitate at every opportunity for sport, while disingenuously engaging in what I'd compare to a phone scammer's ethics, with a politician's evasiveness, failing to ever directly answer a question honestly. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Just pointing out the incoherent things you've said-- and you are desperate to avoid it-- The truth is not subject to your admission, nor your denial. You writing that not all lives are valuable, qualifying-- "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of" (in other words) unless they are sufficiently charitable to a level of your satisfaction, is patently absurd and the amount of ego behind that is unreal. Your narcissism is off-the-hook.
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@mariec7352 If the shoe fits...it fits. You certainly haven't refuted anything here. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm just pointing out the incoherent things you've said-- and you are desperate to avoid it-- The truth is not subject to your admission, nor your denial, nor your acknowledgement nor understanding.
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You're going to prefer using the women's restroom. Don't say nobody told you
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@teddy_needs.sleep9 The women's tend to be more sanitary, but hey-- you do you. If you prefer a less sanitary condition, then by all means-- use the men's room
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@teddy_needs.sleep9 That the women's restroom is more sanitary than the men's
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@jamarr27 They're still women, just now in disguise
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@jamarr27 Erik is an activist troll, who's shoe size dwarfs their IQ
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@junedee You're the one who got your self worked up about someone else's friendship, that you decided to whinge about it online. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total lack of any actual virtue in any of your unhinged rants
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@TheLegendOfRandy I already covered that for you in another thread. It's a crime to drive drunk... That's how. Your analogy is intentionally obtuse. A better analogy would be: Driving your own car (Intentionally) into a wall, and wrecking it-- then acting surprised, like you didn't know that would happen to it.
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@evilforeskin No he isn't. He's an adult male, who's merely altered his appearance. I appreciate you confessing that you don't know the difference, but it changes nothing.
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@TheLegendOfRandy How is an example from a foreign country from 10 years ago relevant in the USA Today? Answer: It isn't. There's no legislation which prevents life saving care for the mother-- ANYWHERE in the USA
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@mariec7352 Look, If women offer themselves up to men for sex, They are the catalyst for their own avoidable dilemma. The intellectual gymnastics that YOU, and SO MANY others go through, to avoid responsibly for your/their own action-- is stunning. Women know what causes pregnancy, and so-- have no one to blame for their unwanted pregnancy but themselves, when they facilitate the one and only act which causes their avoidable dilemma.
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it. A woman isn't a costume, a feeling or a social construct. They conflate gender w/ personality, science w/ science-fiction, gender with gender roles, fact w/ fiction, males w/ females and men w/ women.
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@psychedpanda3333 That doesn't illustrate a defense of abortion. Try again?
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@psychedpanda3333 Nope... Where in Christianity's teachings is it there any advocation in favor of abortion?
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Why, because it's SO extremely uncommon? You seem to fail to realize that the exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule; They prove the rule by being the exceptions.
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Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can choose to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, don't?
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@Anon Ymous I'm unable to cure your reading comprehension deficit or your intellectual capacity deficit. Sorry
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@Anon Ymous Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can choose to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, don't?
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@R L No doubt you also believe that is an appropriate response to those who insist on preferred pronouns, yes?
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@R L I'm asking a question. How long has your reading comprehension deficit presented a problem for you?
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@conor.3875 So, now you know something that you did not know before.
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@conor.3875 Well, if you did- then your comment illustrates that your intention is to be a troll and act like a teen kid trying to be edgy
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@conor.3875 You're dismissed due to a lack of relevance
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@conor.3875 Try being relevant for a change. How does your response not illustrate what I described?? You've established nothing and have refuted even less, and seem to only be interested in arguing for argument's sake
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@freedommatters7677 And if they do, it's because you put them there in the 1st place. That wasn't very bright, if you didn't want to do that
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@conor.3875 So, go in peace-- knowing the OP's thoughts. So, it gave you an opportunity to display no redeeming value whatsoever-- and you nailed it. So, it provided you an opportunity to be relevant, and you failed. So, it presented you an opportunity to ignore it and move along, and you didn't. Take your pick It provided you a 'Look at me' opportunity to display something substantive or not and you chose not.
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Respect is also reserved for that which is respectable, and it's earned or it just isn't
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@Maksie0 How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@Maksie0 The narrative incorrectly suggests trans women are women too, making the prefix entirely redundant.
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Well, there are people who are happy that babies will live. The other side is sad that babies will live. And that is all you need to know about the ideological divide in America.
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Dude is misgendering himself. He's Not a woman, and never will be. There's absolutely nothing phobic about recognizing that he isn't that which he claims to be. It just makes those who recognize it, observant of objective reality. How is someone who suffers from a psych disorder, which has them believing that they're something other than what they are-- not a dissociative state by definition?
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@Tumbledweeb Cope harder... Men cannot become women
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If women offer themselves up to men for sex, They are the catalyst for their own avoidable dilemma. The intellectual gymnastics that SO MANY go through, to avoid responsibly for their own action-- is stunning. Women know what causes pregnancy, and so-- have no one to blame for their unwanted pregnancy but themselves, when they facilitate the one and only act which causes their avoidable dilemma.
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@quesadilla9957 Well, I was addressing women's unwanted pregnancy's, not men's unwanted pregnancy's. Knowing that you don't "ever" want kids, what prevents You from getting a vasectomy, since You "know" you don't want kids?
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@quesadilla9957 I notice you didn't respond to my reply or question. "Tolerance will reach such a level, that intelligent people will be banned from thinking, so as not to offend the imbeciles"-- Dostoievski
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@user-ky1zz2ih7m I raised my own as a single dad, from the time he was a new born-- without his bio-mom in the picture. He's 32 yo now and happy and successful. How is that sexist? I already told re: victims-- The 1% of cases doesn't justify the other 99% of cases. A child isn't less valuable or innocent because one of their parents was bad.
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If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity?
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@captainawesome2865 Not exactly stellar examples of well-balanced individuals. y’all need more psychiatric hospitals for those fools 😂😂😂
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@markusbaker1161 This is sad that we live in a world where grown adult men, who identify with stereotypical feminine traits, believe that they are women.
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Is the resulting child's life somehow less valuable when one or both of their parents are bad? I don't think so
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@mariec3733 Your feelings don't justify terminating the lives of the innocent
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@conor.3875 Looks like someone that’s supportive of eugenics, by suggesting that people shouldn’t face any adversity - so your solution is to terminate them? Lol. Wow
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They should host a show in Saudi Arabia
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The truth matters
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@abcede4798 What a croc of crap. The final say on whether or not women are willing to risk themselves getting pregnant, when facilitating it-- is why they have no one to blame but themselves for their avoidable self-inflicted dilemmas. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to be more than one of a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences?
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@abcede4798 That isn't an answer to my question. She doesn't have to keep it. She can give it up for adoption, or relinquish her custody rights to the father-- giving him full custody, or primary custody w/ visitation reserved for her-- if she wants to be involved-- and your position doesn't make that seem too likely, now does it? So many TV shows that end up revealing that, "NO, you are Not the father", so it's hard to say, now isn't it? 🤣 You really should quit while you're behind. There's no justification for terminating the innocent in the womb, but for the mother's life being in imminent peril
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@abcede4798 No, I expect that she avoid her totally avoidable self-inflicted dilemma of an unwanted pregnancy all together. Like I said, The final say on whether or not women are willing to risk themselves getting pregnant, when facilitating it-- is why they have no one to blame but themselves-- for their TOTALLY avoidable self-inflicted dilemmas.
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@abcede4798 You say that, as if women don't know the risks involved with their choices. It doesn't justify the solution you're advocating in favor of, which terminates the innocent.
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@scarlettdavis9336 That's not an answer to the question. Affirming a psych disorder and attempting to normalize it? You don't affirm a schizophrenic's claim that they can fly off the roof top, and think it's helping the patient.
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@scarlettdavis9336 Gender Dysphoria IS, according the the DSM5
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@scarlettdavis9336 There's no such thing as 'Trans'. You're exactly the same sex/gender prior to altering your appearance, as you are after. LARPing, doesn't count
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@mariec7352 Education is the remedy for ignorance. Stooopid is FOREVER
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What's stopping trans women from using the men's room?
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@staccaya9709 Your logic is as follows: Because criminals commit crimes we should just abandon all laws,since criminals don't follow the law. :face-turquoise-covering-eyes:🙄
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A phobia is an irrational fear. Calling a lie, a lie-- isn't evidence of a phobia. Deal with it. To ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where as a feminist you'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are now women.
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@RiversBliss Pregnancy doesn't just spontaneously happen. In cases of rape, the innocent child isn't less valuable
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 @mariec7352 What's your point? That miscarriages happen naturally too? Ya, we know
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@TheLegendOfRandy I already corrected your false narrative when you said that consent to driving was the cause of accidents (CLEARLY that's wrong). I've already explained it to you previously, as have others. In the case of a woman's unwanted pregnancy in 99% of cases (not including rape), as it relates to your analogy-- The woman is the drunk driver in your T-bone accident story, consenting to driving drunk/risking her own crash/unwanted pregnancy-- by her own actions, without a care in the world about the consequences to herself or anyone else, and her baby is the one who get's t-boned, as she crashes her car driving drunk. Not ok...
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@TheLegendOfRandy I already told you I wasn't addressing rape, as clearly women don't choose to be assaulted-- Your analogy fails to discern that there's another party at fault for the accident, where as in the case of women facilitating their own risk of pregnancy-- there is no one else to blame.
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@TheLegendOfRandy Of course men can refuse to indulge, but that doesn't address the fact that women's unwanted pregnancies is the topic (Not men's unwanted pregnancies), and women are responsible for facilitating or avoiding their circumstance to include or exclude pregnancy-- not men, so... Again... your point is irrelevant
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@Maksie0 STOP!! Trans women are troubled men with issues, pretending to be women without issues.
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@markusbaker1161 What you choose to call those men couldn't be less relevant or interesting. They're still men-- Simple as That 😏
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@markusbaker1161 I'm talking about objective reality. You're talking about subjective feelings.
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@markusbaker1161 Evidence?
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@markusbaker1161 Cite a study anywhere proving trans-women are not biological men
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@AshkanPacino13 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female. Women aren't social constructs, feelings or costumes. The problem with the trans-activist ideological narrative is, their arguments just don't withstand scrutiny, because life is based in reality, and the trans imagination just doesn't override people's capacity for discernment
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More like confused men vs women
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Losah Tattletales 🎯 Bullseye!
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@Erik-fn7kj The delusional women pretending to be men, and getting upset at not being recognized for their preferred disguise vs who and what they actually are, is what's funny to me
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@conor.3875 Only in Fantasy land, not in reality. The vast majority of men and women are rejecting your wokeism. Don't believe me, just ask Budweiser, and Target
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@conor.3875 Justifying the end of affirmative action, and highlighting the bogus claims of racism?
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@conor.3875 Trying to follow YOUR logic. You said people identify as the race they feel-- SO, if that's the case, there is no such thing as racism, which justifies the end of affirmative action
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@conor.3875 You're the one suggesting race is fluid so, how then, can there be racism?
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@dejeh6307 Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable... That's why sovereign nations have borders. The one's which thrived did so based on logic and reason guiding their actions, in the name of wisdom vs feelings
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@dejeh6307 No... Knowledge is obtained via one's powers of observation, and capacity for comprehension, logic and reason. What one chooses to do, or not do with knowledge is either rooted in wisdom or it is not. Everything is subject to truth
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@krasmasov6852 Wrong. Science is not a consensus. What matters in science is what is observable, provable, and repeatable. What you're talking about is science-fiction
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The ideology's narrative insists that men can be women too-- so if that's the case, what's the problem?
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Does that make the baby's life any less valuable?
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@bacongritty Women are the one's who choose to risk themselves getting pregnant, and that the power to avoid an unwanted pregnancy is ALL up to them. How is that not totally accurate? (Obviously rape is not a consent situation)
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@bacongritty I can, and no you haven't. The solution is entirely up to a woman's discretion-- as only she can consent to risk herself getting pregnant, and so the onus to prevent the avoidable is on her, is it not?
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@PetMama1313 Why are you telling me any of that, as if my comments suggested there was anything wrong with crying? I think you're presuming MUCH too much.
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@PetMama1313 No worries
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Having a plastic surgeon change your appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek, doesn't actually make you a Klingon. Same is true regarding gender transition surgery. Still, XX or XY
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She's never been anything other than a female, just now-- she's mutilated herself.
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@AFIXFORNIX Don't presume one's ability to recognize and cite a stat is evidence of one's state of mind. The point was that men actually commit it more often, however; it failed to address that women attempt it more often-- speaking to the balanced mindset, or rather unbalanced-- as the case may be. Either way, you don't help the delusional by validating their delusions as if they're real You missed the point entirely, intentionally or not-- It really doesn't matter. I have nothing to do with your feelings
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@AFIXFORNIX I never suggested it was, I merely pointed out the unbalanced mindset of women who attempt it more often. Make of that what you will. Are they more disturbed? Seems to indicate, Yes
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@celestejacobs7386 You can try to spin it however you like, it's a living, growing, developing human, and size doesn't justify terminating it. If women offer themselves up to men for sex, They are the catalyst for their own avoidable dilemma. The intellectual gymnastics that you're engaging in, to attempt to justify terminating the innocent in the womb-- is stunning. You have the ethics and morals of a phone scammer
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that I can promote make believe, or cater to feelings by pretending I don't recognize that they aren't that which they present themselves as. They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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@jesusisking1095 It's not society's obligation to adapt for them. It's for them to adapt to the real world
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@Someone-qq5kc A woman is an adult human female, and half the panel aren't that and will never be that
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ERRATAS 003 The point is, she's not what she claims to be. How is that confusing?
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@vini_nicius643 Cognitive dissonance on MAX overload. Expecting clear and rational thoughts, from people who suffer massive anxiety when faced with having to select the appropriate restroom seems unlikely-- at BEST. There is apparently a LOT Andrea S doesn't understand
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@benevans8674 I typically post late at night, and the comment you're responding to was posted here 2-weeks ago, but I am retired and notice that most of the replies are snarky-- like yours, yet, ZERO refutation. It's quite telling It's seems that they can't truly accept themselves, but think and act as though others should respect them, and accept them for who and what they'd rather be, as opposed to who and what they really are, and that upsets them? Does that about sum it up?
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Dude is a dude. His feelings about it and altering his appearance and wardrobe doesn't change that-- and it never will
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In utero surgery's prove that conclusion of yours false, and it appears that basic 5th grade science proves difficult for you. What do you think pregnancy is?
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Quit conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males and butch females) with gender. It illustrates a high-level of intellectual vacancy to do so, and demonstrates a lack of integrity with your narrative and shows it to be entirely incoherent. Newsflash: Men cannot become women and women cannot become men. Trans guys aren't guys either. The dysphoria is in the mind, not the body. You can have surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon either, and if you think it does-- you're delusional
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It illustrates that their shoe size dwarfs their IQ, and that they have no moral code beyond that of a base animal
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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Cubic Zirconia look like the real thing, BUT, when you know what you're looking at, you know-- They are Not. The same correlation applies to the trans ideology's incoherent narrative.
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2 sexes/genders and a zillion psych disorders and cosplay and LARPing going on
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@Maksie0 'Cisgender' is a cult term used to pretend that there's another kind of woman other than those born female--BUT, there isn't. ALL women are born female. There are exactly ZERO exceptions
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@eveliinahannele Well, if you believe that men can be women too, what's the problem?
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@markusbaker1161 If you aren't talking about biology, then the banter regarding what you call males or females-- or how they present themselves is totally irrelevant. They're still males or females, respectively. Someone's subjective identity, when conflicting with the reality of their biology, by default-- is irrelevant and invalid-- and amounts to nothing more than cosplay. How does it not?
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It's amazing!!! Having written all of that -- You still continue to conflate the variability in personality traits and temperament (neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), with gender. You can neuter your male dog, make him wear a dress, and change his name-- but he's still a male dog. You can dress in drag, put on makeup, etc... it doesn't make you a woman
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@amuslimwoman1121 No, women are women, and men are men. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent, not psychological categories. You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look Like a Klingon from Star Trek, prescribe hormones, refer a makeup and fashion consultant and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon either-- and if you think it does, it means you're delusional
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@amuslimwoman1121 The 'Because you said so' standard has been issued exactly ZERO credibility. You're going to have to do better than that. If that were true, there would be no men or women
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@73748 Abortion is the forced birth of a child who's life has been terminated
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@73748 And it's forced birth vs natural birth-- is it not?
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@frieza2235 No need to prove you're clueless about those who get adopted and lead happy productive lives. Who do you think are adopting those children?
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@mariec3733 Never happened.
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@mariec3733 I recognize that All women are in control of their bodies, and when they choose to risk getting pregnant, they themselves, are responsible for their choice to achieve the avoidable unwanted pregnancy? Just sayin...
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@mariec3733 I did. Your comprehension deficit is all you. I told you, "All women already have body autonomy. They can choose to risk compromising it with a pregnancy for the duration of their gestation period, if they choose-- or not to risk it, if they're not prepared to have a family-- They can also certainly choose not to risk their body autonomy with a pregnancy, as well. At no point prior to conception (barring a rape, for obvious reasons) is a woman unable to choose not to risk her body becoming pregnant. A criminal attacker takes a woman's choice away, but I asked-- and you never answered, regarding the treatment protocol for rape, including a morning after pill to prevent the pregnancy. My question to you is, and you have never bothered to answer: Is the child's life less valuable if one or both of their parents is bad? I don't think so Choice is for prior to conception, because after-- come known consequences."
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@mariec3733 Well... Have fun waiting. My reply-- even when logged out, is still visible to you-unless of course you blocked me and forgot to unblock me or something like that. 😵‍💫😵
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Weird: Democrats Suddenly Saying 'Woman' Today As If Everyone Knows What It Means
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@markusbaker1161 Says the guy who incorrectly asserts that trans women are women.
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@markusbaker1161 Your input isn't credible, of value, or of interest. Your comments have already been rendered obsolete.
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@markusbaker1161 Men and women however, are not social constructs. You're the one who keeps claiming that sex and gender are different. That you don't comprehend that it invalidates your attempt to justify the incoherent narrative you've been peddling-- that trans women are women-- being that they're men isn't a surprise
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@markusbaker1161 A woman is an adult, human, female. That's a biological category, not a social construct. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. You're confusing gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender- as though they're synonymous, and they are not, while simultaneously conflating biological sex with gender. It's no wonder your conclusions are faulty
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@markusbaker1161 HA-- You're wrong. The medical professionals arguing against your endorsed nonsense, and the ethics of those who are providing these procedures already have, along with those who are de transitioning and the push back against this lunacy has already begun. You'll see
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@Tomb-Wraith No-- That is not what parasitic twinning is. Parasitic twinning is called that because one of the twins is acting as a parasite to the other-- not to the mother. C'mon. It's clear you're reaching and just trying to push an agenda
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@mariec3733 What risks do men take regarding women getting pregnant? Men aren't the one's who risk their body's getting pregnant, and we are talking about women's unwanted pregnancies-- Not men's unwanted pregnancies
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@mariec3733 You seem triggered. Relax I understand how biology functions. When a woman gets pregnant 'unwantedly', with the ONLY exception being rape-- obviously; how is it not her own damned fault? She knew she was risking it The point is the action isn't harmless, it's potentially life altering and needs to be treated seriously, not with a casual attitude to prevent the unwanted and totally avoidable consequence of a poor choice
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@mariec3733 Why? They're sitting there. All you have to do is read them. Why haven't you gotten to Ximena's thread yet, to see them? I'm aware of multiple questions I've written to you, that you've failed to answer. Look, if you're not interested in having actual conversations, feel free to kick rocks.
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Nonsense
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@MontyQueues That wasn't much of a refutation. You really need to do better and up your game
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@merrinbuchan2488 The final say on whether or not women are willing to risk themselves getting pregnant, when facilitating it-- is on women-- and that is why they have no one to blame but themselves for their avoidable self-inflicted dilemmas. DUH, to those with a functioning prefrontal cortex... What's your excuse for failing to comprehend the cause and affect of the situation?? How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one driven like a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences?
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@angiew2324 The truth that they're delusional, detached from reality and often are emotionally damaged and are being taken advantage of by paid activist hacks who foster their disconnect with reality by affirming their LARP and cosplay as though it's based in reality
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@Anon Ymous Women know that, and they are still the ones who get pregnant, and can choose to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty utilizing their preventative birth control effectively, don't?
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A real friend tells you the truth
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@capyfromnowhere That dude is unhinged from reality.
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No, you don't
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It's just being observant that they are not that which they present themselves to be, and their triggered name calling is really what is truly meaningless
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@markusbaker1161 What you choose to call men dressing up as women couldn't be less relevant or interesting to me. I don't see why men should be granted access to women's private spaces, or how you justify dismissing those women's rights. Seems like the height of misogyny to me.
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@markusbaker1161 Yes it does, and I call it like it is in objective reality.
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@markusbaker1161 If you need proof of the differences between men and women-- consult a university biology department to confirm that my analysis of objective reality is correct and totally in line with science.
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@CreativeUsernameEh Objective reality isn't merely an opinion. They're men. There appears to be a prerequisite to being considered a trans-woman, and that's being male. There is no science which shows that trans-women aren't males. The fact that people want to pretend otherwise, doesn't change objective reality
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Half of the panel are females, who know nothing of being males
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Because in the mean time innocent babies are being slaughtered
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@TheLegendOfRandy If I'm a fetus that's growing in your body, it's because you put me there-- with your consent
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Leftists: Everything we don't like must be banned Also Leftists: Everything we do like must be provided for and funded by others
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They already have their own bathrooms. They're the men's room and the women's room. If they're male, they have the men's restroom. If they're female, they have the women's restroom. Then, there's the Special Olympics... perhaps they would create a category
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@Maksie0 Why not let kids buy cigarettes, alcohol, and guns? Why not let kids decide whether they need to go to school? Why not let kids decide on if they need any food other than Reese's and Oreos?
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@ashurahisaacs7568 Consent isn't involved with rape-- OBVIOUSLY. In the other 99% of cases however, it is-- and it is the 99% of other cases, which my question is aimed. Try again?? No one, and no legislation that I'm aware of has an issue when the mother's life is in peril.
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@ashurahisaacs7568 It is his suggested solution to give, and the 1% doesn't justify the other 99%
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@mariec3733 Perhaps re-reading the several other posts where I've already answered that question you, only slower this time, so you don't miss it again. The 1% are those where the woman didn't have control or consent involved to risk getting pregnant. The child of the 1% has the same value to their life.
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TOTAL Intellectual bankruptcy. There are males and females, and there are minority segments of each which present with birth defects and various mental illnesses/psych disorders. They aren't "trans" ANYTHING. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance and chemistry, as they are after.
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, it is pretending, or it's total lack of awareness. Science and medicine and the law has established that all mammalian species are male and female, and humans are no exception, and that there are differences between the sexes. If you're trans girlfriend needs a prostate exam, he ain't a she
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@markusbaker1161 You haven't made the case for why someone who's XY should be considered XX (As would necessarily be the case, to substantiate the statement that trans women are women) or trans XX. Why not try being relevant for a change?
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@gottmiksshoe6786 Not much of a refutation.
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Raise your own kids how you see fit. Leave other people's kids alone
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I don't get why. There's nothing phobic, nor irrational about recognizing that someone is not that which they claim to be. It just makes one observant, does it not?
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Also, the difference between male and female. The trans people are still women
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They're also, unlike humans-- honest all the time
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@eveliinahannele Birth control is a means for preventing you from getting pregnant. It doesn't always work, and you know that-- so YOU assume the risk of getting pregnant, when you're out there creating the risk you say you're desperately trying to avoid. You just want an easy pass to be promiscuous without any consequences. Well, there's no such thing. Please NEVER procreate. Get your tubes tied, since you have such a vested interest in maintaining your pursuit of promiscuity on demand
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@olivia25144 Then get your damned tubes tied. Be responsible
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I'm not under the impression that there's a place for a meeting of the minds between those who value life, and those who advocate terminating the innocent in the womb. Women are the one's who risk pregnancy, when choosing to facilitate it, when engaging in the one and only act which causes their avoidable dilemma. Their dilemma is of their own making, and they're without excuse. I raised my own as a single father, without the bio-mom in the picture. Why can't they responsibly avoid their unwanted pregnancy's? Since women are the one's in charge of risking it, you'd think they'd be smarter about it. There are literally millions of women who successfully plan their family's, and effectively utilize their preventative birth control. What do you think they know that eludes so many who obviously don't?
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They already have the same rights as everyone else. Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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Clearly, it's not even as deep as a baby spoon. Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@rochestas Well it certainly shouldn't be an adolescent conversation topic. Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men Gender addresses the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female. It appears that you and many others are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@rochestas Because children don't need to be kept up on the latest psych conditions and treatments. That's over their heads. The fact that you had to ask, indicates, you should NEVER be allowed around children
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@Liberty5024 Get real... That is the exception of exceptions that-- that occurs, and the Only way they'd know-- is if the mother made them aware of the pregnancy
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No, XY defines male biology. You're inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament with gender
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@hangbrand8199 They are an extremely small minority that the world doesn't owe any consideration to accommodate their delusional scenarios that exist only in their imaginations. Restrooms are designed around biology not subjective feelings. Male bits-- use the men's room. Pretty simple
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@flyinginthewind111 1 MILLION up votes
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@brianwebberable Seems like you're struggling with explaining how you came up with 'racist' from the OP's comment.
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Totally agree. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the use of 'Cis' totally useless and irrelevant.
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@Maksie0 Do you know what a woman is?
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@Semiretired_RN Get em. That dude is a trans-activist, playing the role of an agent provocateur
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@Maksie0 So??? What's your point? Nouns aren't worth respecting??? GFY
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@Maksie0 It's entirely irrelevant. There's only one kind of woman and they're ALL born females.
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The fault would be that of the rulers who ruled over those men and women, who had NO say about it whatsoever
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@conor.3875 Looks to me, like you're making a disingenuous, phantom argument to attempt to justify your position and failed. No worries
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@athena6961 How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one of a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences? A N Y O N E??? 🦗🦗🦗 Innocent baby's shouldn't be terminated because adults can't act responsibly
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@markusbaker1161 Cry harder. Trans is the REAL construct. You've failed to persuade otherwise. I couldn't care less that some dude is LARPing or enjoying their cosplay.I recognize it for what it is, and that seems to bother you. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 No, gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Your failure to comprehend, doesn't invalidate what I wrote
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@Maksie0 That's just intellectually vacant. Trans women are men w/ issues, pretending to be women without issues
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What's trans? Altering your appearance doesn't change your sex/gender. Same sex/gender prior to altering your appearance as you are after altering your appearance.
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@baristaz8834 If it's true that a girl trapped in a boys body has an immutable male identity, HOW is gender fluid, and disconnected from biology? Answer: It isn't. They trying to rename personality types "gender" and that's not correct
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@baristaz8834 And the girl trapped in a male body with an immutable male identity-- being the justification for transition says what, re: that narrative that gender is fluid and disconnected from biology? No, it's incoherent nonsense Personality traits such as masculine and feminine, assertiveness, agreeableness, aren't gender specific, and your notion suggests otherwise-- and you're wrong It's just wrong Explain my what? My lack of confusion about the fact that there are men and there are women, and they are not interchangeable?? That would be my functional intellectual capacity being higher than your single-digit IQ analytical capacity, affording me the ability to recognize that the delusions of the mentally ill have no bearing on reality. What's your excuse for not comprehending that??
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@thecolorblue1635 I can't explain your lack of reading comprehension capacity. You've established nothing and have refuted even less. You really need to do better if the goal is persuade people that you're not just a delusional fool or a troll
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@Maksie0 The stats on post-op self-termination rates seem to indicate that the currently prescribed treatments aren't exactly illustrations of satisfaction-- as I see it
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@roshnmie874 Woe to the feminists. In their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men who will claim they're women
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Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female-- respectively. Don't inappropriately conflate the variability of personality traits and temperament (neither of which are gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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Makes me feel sorry for the baby's who have parents that don't know how to control themselves
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@TheLegendOfRandy No, I admitted to raising my own. I asked a question, which you've again-- failed to answer. People who care about babies don't advocate for their termination, like you do. Where you stand, doesn't make the case for caring about the innocent, as you openly admit to preferring to terminate your own offspring. Seems ghoulish to me
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Affirmation therapy is more akin to mad-scientist malpractice, witch-doctor voodoo, or science-fiction. This entire comment section is filled with single damaged goods - women over 30, activist trolls and confused teenagers
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Do ectopic pregnancies ever result in a live birth? Try to be relevant
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There's NOTHING phobic or hateful about recognizing that they are not that which they claim to be. It's just a matter of being observant of objective reality. That label is meaningless. Their imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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The obvious escapes you?
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@Maksie0 Non sequiturs? Do you even know what that word means? eye roll. I was responding directly to the topic of the OP, regarding the use of pronouns and there is no comedic intent in my responses and there is no fallacy in my comment. The singular 'they' emerged by the 14th century, about a century after the plural 'they'. It has been commonly employed in everyday English ever since, and has gained currency in official contexts
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@mariec7352 Men don't risk getting themselves pregnant, so do not have the same incentives, or considerations to avoid an unwanted pregnancy as a woman-- and we are talking about women's unwanted pregnancies and their obligation to themselves to avoid them, if they don't want kids. Try to focus I don't care about your irrational attempts at justifying the unjustifiable, or to reassign accountability to anyone but women, for their own dilemmas. No one is forcing people to risk unwanted pregnancy. Other than a rape scenario, which is 1% of cases-- Women are the ones who need to exercise control over their body's, to prevent their own unwanted pregnancies, in the other 99% of cases.
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Get a refund
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@bibisvengeance No one is forcing women to choose riskng themselves getting pregnant.
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@mariec3733 Forced vaccine mandates are cool with you though?
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@miraculousk7547 Unfortunately, I can only post facts for you. I can't 'understand' them FOR you too. That's all on you, and it appears you have a comprehension deficit in play. Perhaps you're not thinking straight, because you're too tired No one is born with both male and female genitalia where both are functional. Intersex is an extraordinarily rare Birth Defect which NEVER presents genitalia outside of the binary. Not another sex or gender
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@miraculousk7547 You've failed to persuade or to articulate a refutation for what I wrote. People exist. They are male or female. There are segments of each which present with physical and psych disorders-- some with both, and their feelings about them don't invalidate the facts
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@miraculousk7547 The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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@mariec3733 It's a foreign concept to you-- Self-respect. It's why you fail at life
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@mariec3733 You've established nothing but your own ignorance and ghoulish moral depravity, and you've refuted even less from your troll account
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The delusional women pretending to be men, and getting upset at not being recognized for their preferred disguise vs who and what they actually are, is what's funny to me
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Blossom, is that you? Care to elaborate?
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Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct. She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals, specifically humans. Now you know
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@bullsbattlebonanza5377 I hate to break it to you, but regarding gender-- There are 2, male and female, and one's personality and quirky fashion sense doesn't alter that permanent state. You don't use pronouns when addressing people in the 1st person, you'd use their name, and to use a pronoun that is in conflict with objective reality would be grammatically incorrect. Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is respectable. If your subjective identity is in conflict with objective reality, then that identity isn't valid. People aren't obligated to indulge the LARPing or cosplay. I reject the entire incoherent ideological narrative
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People opposing the termination of children, in the name of convenience are weird to you? THAT is weird to me. The child which is in the womb is there because the mother facilitated herself becoming pregnant, when choosing to risk an unwanted pregnancy, by engaging in the one and only act which causes her avoidable dilemma. It is a living, developing human-- unlike a bacteria, so you fail to justify terminating the life of the innocent. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one driven like a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences? Innocent baby's shouldn't be terminated because adults can't act responsibly. You don’t want a baby, use a condom or take the pill, Or keep your legs together.
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@markusbaker1161 You're the one who keeps claiming that sex and gender are different. That you don't comprehend that it invalidates your attempt to justify the incoherent narrative you've been peddling-- that trans women are women-- being that they're men, isn't a surprise
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@Maksie0 Personality traits and temperament are different things than gender, and they're conflating them and acting as though they're synonymous-- and they're just not The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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@stinkygremlin267 That's not much of a refutation. You've established nothing whatsoever-- but your own ignorance, and you've refuted even less.
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@eveliinahannele Those, like you-- who've fumbled the intellectual football, clearly lack the comprehension capacity to understand. Y’all need more psychiatric hospitals 😂😂😂
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@mariec3733 Nope... At the moment of conception a new life is begun. A unique set of DNA that is a combination of both parents, and it's growth cycle establishes it's alive and growing. Non-living things don't grow and develop
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@mariec3733 95% of biologists agree that life begins at conception. Keep waiting if you like, or go look it up for yourself
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@mariec3733 Oh get real... You're confused about the differences between males and females. Kick Rocks
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@Maksie0 Women (ALL of them) are born female and there are no exceptions. That you're confused about that, discredits your opinion highlighting your disconnect with reality
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It's even stranger that people believe a surgeon altering their appearance transforms them into another sex/gender. XX, XY... That's it, and they are permanent states
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@Erik-fn7kj Morons choose with their emotions, that's true. Smart people however; make decisions based on facts, using logic, and reason to come to intelligent conclusions. Politics is merely the dividing line between principals and ideologies. How people view and/or feel about those ideologies is another matter.
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@Erik-fn7kj Not surprisingly, you conflate intellectual engagement, and responses with your own overly-emotional reactions to facts which prove your narrative wrong. You've established nothing whatsoever and you've refuted even less. Apply that same sentiment to your expected use of your preferred pronouns. Cry harder. You're mad because we don't see you as you see yourself, and we aren't falling for your disguise... Now, go cry about it. You don't accept yourself, so go through elaborate measures to transform your appearance into something you're not, and expect to be accepted for your disguise, as opposed to being accepted for who and what you really are. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect. Deal with it
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Quit conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament, neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys, w/ gender. Intersex is a birth defect, not another gender
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@dorkchops There are males and females... that's it. Segments of each present with various physical issues, some with various psych issues, and some with BOTH physical and psych issues-- NONE of which make it possible for a male to become a female or vice versa.
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@markusbaker1161 Like I said, 'Your suggestion otherwise doesn't invalidate reality, and the fact that others share your opinion doesn't change the fact that They're still men, and suggesting otherwise is thoroughly absurd. They are men, they are not women'. The 'Because you-- or someone says so' standard is rejected in favor of reality. Their belief to the contrary doesn't mean they should be allowed to infiltrate women's spaces like restrooms, locker rooms, sports competition, and women's prisons, since their elaborate efforts to disguise themselves to look like that which they are not, doesn't make them women. They're still Men
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I think it's interested when citing specific State and Federal laws regarding what you're writing about, the comments are immediately shadow banned
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No they're not. Gender and sex are not disconnected. They're intrinsically linked. People confuse gender with gender roles (which are the constructs), as if they're synonymous-- and they are not.
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@ox4df5h6g5ff So-- You have no answers. I recommend being relevant
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It illustrates that there are people disconnected from reality, and that they're unable or unwilling to comprehend that the 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female.
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@Maksie0 It is the trans-activists like you, who's insistence that others-- who are already minding their own business, participate in your LARP and cosplay, by insisting on the grammatically incorrect use of pronouns, and with no regard for the displacement of women's privacy, which is at the root of how you brought your business to everyone in public, making it their business. Irony or idiocy? Quit your whining. You look and sound ridiculous
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@Maksie0 M0r0n... There is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female, making the use of cis totally ridiculous and irrelevant
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Thats not even as deep as a baby spoon. Think deeper thoughts
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They can't truly accept themselves, but think and act as though others should respect them, and accept them for their disguise and who and what they'd rather be, as opposed to who and what they really are, and that upsets them? Does that about sum it up?
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@mariec3733 You say, like a clueless clown-- while commenting on one of my posts. I appreciate your apparent desire to prove that you're a clown, but it's not necessary. You've already established that you're intellectually stunted and morally bankrupt, and it's why you're dismissed as less than useless
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@freedommatters7677 Yes, it was warranted as you still have no answer-- as it exposes the nonsense which is your narrative
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@mariec3733 You believe men are in charge of women? That's wrong
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@mariec3733 You did, when you answered 'men' to the question, "Who is responsible for preventing unwanted pregnancy, more than those who can actually become pregnant?"
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If feminists were 100% honest, they'd be able to define the question, what is a woman-- accurately.
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Personally, I couldn't possibly care less if they get a surgeon to alter their appearance to look like a Klingon. Even if they really really really believe it actually then makes them a Klingon, and they identify as a Klingon-- it does not change the nature of who and what they are, and anyone who thinks it does is delusional or intellectually stunted, or intentionally engaging in cosplay. Women (ALL of them) are born female, and that state is fixed and permanent-- making the use of 'Cis' entirely ridiculous. Women aren't social constructs. They're one half of the binary dichotomy of all mammals, specifically humans-- in objective reality. I don't care if you identify as rich, successful and beautiful whatever... if you're not, you're not
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Exactly Correct
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@marsdavidson8307 An example of what? Looks like nothing more than another occasion of you screaming for attention, saying nothing substantive whatsoever. You Really need to do better. Did you skip your meds?
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@marsdavidson8307 What happened to you? You seem to have retreated back under the rock that you crawled out from, illustrating that your entire rant was actually projection? It's You who run away when confronted. Pathetic Troll
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@babs_babs The world doesn't give a crap about your feelings, so you better develop some coping skills. You're not the center of everyone else's universe. Take your time to proces reality
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@sodiumso6015 As you pointed out, "the development of numerous fertilized eggs is ceased in clinics"-- Where's the problem? Why don't you care about the children in the womb, who are scheduled for termination? You have ZERO moral ground to stand on, from which to lecture, finger wag, or virtue signal. There is no virtue whatsoever in any of your whinging
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@sodiumso6015 How does advocating in favor of terminating the life of the innocent in the womb, not show anything but a casual notion that life is disposable? It seems you don't have any moral ground to stand on from which to judge 'valuing life', and your explanation doesn't ring true, and comes across as totally disingenuous-- as I directly asked you 4 days ago, "Do you think human life has value?", and you didn't answer.
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I will. A woman is an adult, human, female. It's really not complicated
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Because they are in favor of it as a 'Choice'
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@mariec7352 I find it fascinating that you seem so desperate for me to provide you an answer. You've eliminated the woman's accountability for her condition from your analysis, and your failure to and refusal to recognize that the baby's autonomy begins when the woman gets pregnant-- seems interesting, as you've been prattling on about bodily autonomy. What's up with that?
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Quit pretending that the case of rape is the standard. It's the exception, not the rule
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@mariec3733 Because it still applies, even if you still don't get it
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@mariec3733 Matthew 10:13 If the home is worthy, let your peace rest on it; but if it is not, let your peace return to you. 14And if anyone will not welcome you or heed your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town. 15Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.… I'll leave you in peace now. I feel comfortable that I've spoken my intended message.
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@tashieschimchim6791 No, that doesn't answer my question at all
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Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), with gender
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@markusbaker1161 Oh ya? well, Your analysis and conclusions are rejected and dismissed, but feel free to think what you want
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The death sentence for the innocent is unjustifiable, especially from those who created the situation they wish to avoid in the 1st place.
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@mariec3733 How are they not creating and facilitating their own dilemma, when consenting to risk a pregnancy? fyi-- women do have a part in the creation recipe, as their XX chromosomes are a part of the recipe, and without it pregnancy is not even remotely possible How is choosing to have an abortion not sentencing an innocent baby to death?
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Born a 'female', not a woman. Women are adults ;)
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@Erik-fn7kj Troll... Kick Rocks Fool
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Or a Bad James Brown impersonator, or President Dwayne Alizondo Mountain Dew Camacho (Terry Crews-- in a wig) from Idiocracy
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@mariec3733 I see your juvenile interaction pattern, and find your thoughts and comments to be less than useless, and totally non-responsive-- making interacting with you a waste, because you choose to make yourself irrelevant. I reject your pushed cult narrative and terminology- You want people to respect you and your desires-- you better figure out that respect is earned or you're going to continue to be an unhappy and disappointed individual
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@redacted5035 Oh stop it... Cutting off your pecker doesn't make you a woman. It just makes you a dude who's cut off his damned pecker. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can choose to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, don't?
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@Anon Ymous Irrelevant, driving doesn't cause accidents
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@Anon Ymous The analogy fails to discern that there's another party at fault for the accident, where as in the case of women facilitating their own risk of pregnancy-- there is no one else to blame.
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@Anon Ymous There are literally millions of women who effectively plan their families and utilize their preventative birth control successfully, to avoid unwanted pregnancy's-- despite there being a failure rate. What do they know that eludes so many, or are they just WAY WAY smarter, than those who don't?? In the case of women choosing to facilitate their own risk of pregnancy-- there is no one else to blame for their unwanted pregnancy-- but them, and nobody forced them to do that.
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“The truth has no defense against a fool determined to believe a lie.”
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These kids haven't been taught to critically think, and add to that the mental delusions and you're not likely to get intelligent analysis and conclusions from them. Look at the intellectually bankrupt analysis in the comment section, as a small sample size of the permeating ignorance that flows from these people.
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Well, to ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where -- You'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are now-- women (in the workplace, on the sports field, in the restrooms, locker rooms, showers, and prisons).
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Better informed people with psych disorders... That's funny
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@Maksie0 It's a cult term, used to pretend that there's another kind of woman other than those born female, BUT-- there is not
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In all fairness, one wouldn't expect intellectual clarity from the mentally ill and/or morally bankrupt
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@rosalynlarry6533 W E A K. It's XX, XY, Birth defect, psych disorders... That's it!
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@GrahamChapman If they're not suffering w/ gender dysphoria-- and I agree that a seriously significant number of them don't, which shows they're just trying to be counter-culture, and indulge their own kink. Either way-- they're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. Male and female are permanently, fixed biological categories
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There's only one kind of woman and they're all born female. That dude is unhinged from reality
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They inappropriately conflate gender and sex. Then, they inappropriately conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they inappropriately conflate personality traits and temperament with gender. Ya, it's absurd. They fail to realize that if their identity relies upon the participation of others denying objective reality-- that those identities are invalid.
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Having an ectopic pregnancy removed is not an ab0rtion. An ab0rtion is the direct and intentional termination of a preborn baby. This is not the case in the removal of an embryo which has implanted outside the uterus. There is no opposition to ab0rtions when a mother's life is in imminent peril
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@isabellejarman6475 Well, there are 3 medical procedures for removing an ectopic pregnancy. The relevant nuance that appears to elude you is, No matter what is done, there is no chance of survival for the embryo, but without treatment, the mother’s life is at great risk; currently, there is no alternative procedure that can save the embryo, even if nothing is done.” Salpingectomy, Salpingostomy, and Methotrexate. None are called "ab0rtion", I hope that helps clarify it for you. By the way, a fetus is a different developmental stage than an embryo. Just to be clear
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They're women, not trans-anything
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@Maksie0 Up your game junior. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female, making the use of cis/trans totally illogical and ridiculous
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@imanieich506 It certainly isn't an evolutionary step forward in the human condition, and many are infertile. The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule-- they prove the rule by being the exceptions. Women aren't social constructs and for those who say that trans women are women-- it's grammatically incorrect. They're men The one thing cross dressers, drag queens and trans women ALL have in common is, they're all men
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@briannachilders772 There is only 'The' truth. The your truth nonsense neither validates nor invalidates anything whatsoever. Men cannot become women, and women cannot become men. Cope Harder
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There are no trans people. Once a male, always a male. Once a female, always a female. Zero exceptions
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Sounds like a You problem. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Too bad you can't ban ignorance and mental illness
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There is no hate involved in recognizing that people are not the sex which they claim to identify as... It's just being observant and being able to discern reality from fantasy. Women cannot become men and vice versa
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Liberals: We Demand State sponsored health care. The State: We're banning ab0rti0n$ Liberals: REEEEEeeeeEEEEEEeeEEEEEe
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@toastedcoconutmarsh Yes, I read your comment. She didn't swan dive off a bridge, so she MUST feel that her life up to now anyway-- is worth living, and that her thoughts are worth sharing, as she took her time to comment. The morals and ethics of those who would declare the unborn to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are questionable-- at Best, and are those of narcissists and sociopaths.
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Define woman
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@yakult9618 That wasn't much a a refutation. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is, the total absence of any actual 'virtue' in any of your unhinged whinging. Besides, "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people [like you] who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell And I think you just provided another example for validation. Please dismiss yourself, or up your game considerably, before attempting to reply with another Arctic room temperature IQ rant
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The vaccine skeptics have ZERO evidence from the professionals, establishing the main stream narrative w/ peer-reviewed, and proven science fact. So far, it's been closer to science fiction than science.
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@degstoll There are no trans people. There are only males and females... That's it! Segments of each present with various physical and psych issues-- some with Both
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@eveliinahannele Why? Actually the best and only 100% effective means of avoiding an unwanted pregnancy is abstinence-- but I digress. Men don't get pregnant. How about instead, force women to be responsible for their own choices which affected their bodies becoming pregnant in the 1st place
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@Mel-wn9gb Science vs science-fiction
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@snailtrailgail Nonsense. They're arguing that she isn't that which she claims to be. That's just being observant of objective reality. Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@TheLegendOfRandy If you say you want to avoid an accident, then go out and intentionally drive recklessly and crash your car-- you don't get to act surprised that your car got into an accident
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@mariec7352 The problem you both have is, neither one of you is as smart or clever as you seem to think you are. She's literally saying she doesn't want to get pregnant (drive into an accident), then drives straight into a wall causing her own accident
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@mariec7352 Sigh... Women can and do choose to engage in the one and only act that can cause them to become pregnant. When they do, and don't want to risk a pregnancy-- they're the catalyst and cause of their own dilemma. I know... accountability is something you avoid like the plague, but that changes nothing. That's just the way it is
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@mariec7352 If women aren't culpable for their own unwanted pregnancy, I don't see why men would be. We are after all, talking about women's unwanted pregnancy's, since it's their body's that get pregnant. Obviously, women have many more considerations, and bigger risk stakes than men do, regarding pregnancy-- since men don't get pregnant. That means, women have a larger stake and greater motivation (One would think) at preventing their own unwanted pregnancies-- than men do. Try to focus
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@mariec3733 How come you fail to recognize the autonomy of the child's body-- that the mother created with her choice to engage in the one and only act which causes the unwanted pregnancy?
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@TheLegendOfRandy Nope... Not me. I believe that human life is precious and inherently valuable. Why don't you? I just don't see anything righteous or virtuous in any of your comments. You definitely haven't justified terminating the innocent in the womb
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No, respect is earned and is reserved for that which is actually respectable. It is not owed. Respect is a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements
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@c2dajayy while proclaiming to be anti-fascist
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@mariec3733 Personal accountability to you, is like garlic to a vampire; You avoid it whenever possible, and the value of human life to you is easily dismissed... I get it
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@mariec3733 Women, who know that sex w/ men facilitates pregnancy, ARE doing what they want-- and the resulting pregnancy is, as a result-- their own damned fault, is just stating an obvious fact. How is this a controversial matter?
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How about, No
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@srhfadoodle6259 Then, that cost should be included in their bill for transitioning into what amounts to nothing other than a different looking version of themself. Still the Same sex as before, same gender as before. To me, it amounts to an elaborate cosplay experiment How is that different than expecting consideration for having a face life or a nose job and requiring special accommodations from the world based on those decisions?
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@Nonyah123 💯🎯
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That wasn't even as deep as a baby spoon. 🙄
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Pure fantasy. No one EVER whistled at them. They're mad because we don't see them as they see themselves, and we aren't falling for their disguise... They don't accept themselves, so go through elaborate measures to transform their appearance into something they're not, and expect to be accepted for their disguise, as opposed to being accepted for who and what they really are. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect-- and they can't Deal with it
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@mariec7352 Oh, like when same sex couple choose go to a sperm bank and choose to facilitate their pregnancy? No?? You're leaving out a couple of considerations in your flawed analysis of the scenario, and your desperate attempt to avoid acknowledging that women are the guardians of their own status, and ultimately responsible to maintain their preferred status. In order her pregnancy to occur in 99+% of cases, a woman 1st has to choose to risk pregnancy by facilitating the one and only act which causes her to conceive. Bottom line: She has all the power necessary to avoid the avoidable unwanted pregnancy
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@pineapple2.041 Well, That's entirely wrong
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Women (ALL of them) are born female. A woman isn't a feeling, social construct or a costume. What one "goes through" or their 'feelings' don't alter objective reality in the slightest bit.
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@Liberty5024 No, as a single dad who raised my son from the time he was a new born and he's now in his 30's, happy healthy and successful (without his bio mom in the picture)-- your take away isn't what I'm stating. Your agenda appears to be causing a bit of cognitive dissonance. The single motherhood rate should be enough of an indicator to women who've determined that they don't wish to incur a pregnancy, that they owe it to themselves to avoid the avoidable-- because it's women who take on the risks associated with pregnancy and delivery. It's REALLY Simple logic, and comprehending the concept of Cause and Effect and personal accountability.
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@Maksie0 That just makes them observant, by recognizing that they aren't that which they claim to be
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@briannachilders772 The ones in defiance of objective reality, seem to be the one's insisting their subjective identities are validated, by insisting that others use those particular pronouns. To ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where as a feminist you'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are women
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Not a surprise, as women, in general-- tend to be more agreeable in temperament than men
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In HUGE numbers, though it's not limited to that particular demographic
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They're confused about the differences between males and females rendering their opinions null and void
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He-- 😏
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Life is worth living.
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@mariec3733 Have you figured out that men and women are in fact different and one cannot transform into the other yet? You clearly seemed really confused about that, when you were insisting that trans women are women and vice versa and that men could get pregnant. 🤣😂😅😄🥴😵😵‍💫
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@sof7251 Some say, 'some opinions are more equal than other'... and they're correct Some say, 'opinions are like a-holes... everybody has one and... they're correct I say, 'opinions are like orgasms, mine is more important than yours/theirs, and I don't care if you/they have one or not.'. Respect is earned, and not everything is worthy of respect. That is limited to that which is respectable. Just sayin...
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@conor.3875 Is English not your 1st language? It's grammatically incorrect to use the pronoun 'she' for a male.
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@SA_Solution Well, they're born baby girls, not women. A woman is an adult, human, female. ;)
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Let's be honest-- that has NEVER once happened to you
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@estephaniegarcia3347 I am not the one who doesn't want to get pregnant and then goes out and risks getting pregnant, genius-- That would be YOU. Get your tubes tied
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@freedommatters7677 It appears that 26 states are certain to or likely to ban abortions
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@Maksie0 Not even close. What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were. It is they, is it not, who insist on everyone's participation in their LARP and cosplay, with their insistence on grammatically incorrect pronouns etc.???
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Best of luck in the feminist dystopian future, where you'll be oppressed by men who now claim they're women too. smh
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@gabriellevitale4670 If leftists cared so much about r@pe victims, you'd think they stop voting in favor of those who keep letting their attackers out of prison over and over and over again
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I think women who aren't prepared to risk pregnancy, shouldn't-- and those who do, have no one to blame for facilitating their totally avoidable, self-inflicted dilemma, but themselves. It isn't as if they didn't know what they were risking, now is it? It just doesn't justify terminating the lives of children.
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@nikmarshall2989 If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity?
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@crescendo_8977 Fair enough, and that's why you're dismissed as less than useless
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@sarah.phillipa854 The stats on the self-delete rates are available and they show the self delete rates of trans people WAY higher than the general population. Happy, well-adjusted people don't tend to do that. Take your time to process reality
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Because the exceptions to the rule don't disprove the rule... They prove it... That's why they're the exceptions to the Rule. Just saying
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@luc3527 The point is exposing the hypocrisy involved in expecting to be addressed a certain way while disregarding the wish of another to to be addressed as preferred. They're merely caricatures of what they wish they were. If the validity of one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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Around 1%
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@mariec3733 Strawman... Reported as a crime-- isn't the same thing as terminated, according to Parenthood stats- which show around 1% as the reason to terminate
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Looks like the analytical conclusions of a teenager who hasn't got a clue
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@markusbaker1161 Nothing then? Of course not... It doesn't exist I know... trans women are men, not women. That you do not-- is pathetic
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Because, apparently the women have difficulty with the reality that if they wish to avoid an avoidable unwanted pregnancy, the onus is on them to actually avoid facilitating them, by indulging in the one and only action which actually causes their dilemma, like a self-inflicted wound and so-- men were needed to explain the problem with their ability to process logic, or self-control
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@mariec7352 How do you still not realize that there's only 1 sex act which leads to pregnancy among the many which don't? Once you get knocked up, you have already exercised your reproductive freedoms. You are free to choose to reproduce or not to, and if your choice is not to-- then choosing to risk facilitating it isn't very smart
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Being trans is the construct, based in fantasy
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They're unattractive women. Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent nonsense, as in their near dystopian future-- they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men who will claim to be women, and they don't even see it coming
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@RotisserieiJamie There's a prerequisite to being a woman and that's being born a female. A woman is an adult, human, female, so how do you figure those men are women??
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Intersex isn't another gender. It's a birth defect
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@Maksie0 Your difficulty deciphering reality/fact from fantasy/fiction renders your opinion null an void, as your perception of reality is warped.
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@CreoleWolf You wrote, "What is anti-woman? Being trans or being androgynous? Because I can at least tell you from my end of it, us tomboys just want to do our thing. We aren't asking anything from anyone. All we are asking is for people to leave us alone. Again, we still identify as being women and acknowledge that we are women. We just aren't "feminine" and don't want to be told what to wear, how we are supposed to act, or what interests we are allowed to have." The ideology that says trans-women are women-- is anti-women. A woman is an adult, female, human. I already pointed out that variability in personality traits and temperament are not gender exclusive, but they're conflating it with gender-- as if they were synonymous, and they are not. The trans-ideology suggests on one hand that gender is a social-construct, not connected to biology, and is fluid. On the other hand, it claims that a girl who says she's a boy, trapped in a girl's body is in fact a boy, and has an immutable male identity, as justification for transition surgery-- and Both can't be true. Those two positions are at odds with each other. It's incoherent. Like I said, Best of luck to all the feminists who go along with that incoherent ideology, because in the not too distant dystopian future-- you'll be oppressed by men- who will say they're women. You, asking what is anti-woman indicates that you don't even see it coming either. I wish you well
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@Maksie0 It's science-fiction, not dissimilar to LARPing men in drag,.
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@TheLegendOfRandy I don't care about your irrational attempts at justifying the unjustifiable. No one is forcing women to risk unwanted pregnancy. Other than a rape scenario, which is 1% of cases-- Women, are the ones who need to exercise control over their own body's to prevent and avoid their own "unwanted" pregnancies, in the other 99% of cases, 100% of the time.
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Have to? Like because your life is in danger-- then yes. If not, then-- No
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They're LARPing at BEST. They're not trans anything. Same sex prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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Using proper grammar doesn't make one a bigot. Recognizing that one is not what they claim to be merely makes one observant. Do you believe that label (bigot) has any significant impact, being so overly utilized- as it is, by those who have difficulty deciphering which restroom is appropriate, while remaining unable to discern the differences between males and females?
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@erauprcwa They aren't 'trans' anything whatsoever. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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They do always have a choice... Every time they choose to engage in sex-- they knowingly risk getting pregnant, unless their tubes are tied
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@VitoFox 1st because only women get pregnant. 2. Women are in charge of choosing to risk getting pregnant, or not. 3rd, knowing that the guys women choose can leave-- just like women can leave too, refer back to #1, and ponder making better choices. 4. Guys-- 'legally', end up paying alimony and child support when a baby is born, and usually end up with the short end of the stick regarding custody Life's not fair. There is no such thing as a perfect solution. There are only trade offs
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@Maksie0 Then, it's men in drag
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That triggered comment doesn't leap off the page and highlight anything even remotely resembling higher order intelligence. Are you trying to prove beyond all doubt that your shoe size dwarfs your IQ?... because that's what it does
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That dude is unhinged and isn't any kind of woman. Women (ALL of them) are born female. Cope Harder
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@yansideabacoa6257 I am of Native American and Hispanic decent thank you, and effeminate men of the past were still men. Take your time to process the fact that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender or gender roles
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@glassesyouneed6876 My agenda? The truth, that reality is objective and you-- wishing to be the opposite sex, and identifying as such, doesn't make it so.
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@glassesyouneed6876 They're the one's insisting that I participate in their cosplay and LARP, as though it's based in reality, by insisting that I deny objective reality and affirm their subjective sense of self, contrary to objective reality and use their preferred pronouns etc... The thing is, the world doesn't revolve around you and to insist that it should is not going to make it so. You Cope with that
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@glassesyouneed6876 It's clear you have no idea that respect is earned, and is reserved for that which is respectable. The world doesn't owe it to you. Cope Harder
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@glassesyouneed6876 Don't Care. You proven to my satisfaction that you're arguing for the sake of argument and are acting in the role of a trans-activist, agent provocateur. You fail to persuade
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@luckyeclipse7455 Nope. Still a male, same as before altering his appearance. Feelings don't define one's biology
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@Maksie0 How are they-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? Why should those men, who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria be granted access to women's private spaces?
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Actually, Depression is the reason and men tend to use lethal force. Get a clue Also, Women attempt it more often than men... Crazier, less competent or Both?
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@yumalove7411 Please remember, Respect is earned, and it's reserved for that which is respectable. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid.
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Requiring everyone else in the world to validate one's subjective feelings as objective fact, by disregarding objective reality is just pitifully delusional and sad and it isn't how you treat someone with a mental illness. When "trans-women" are insisting that they ARE 'women'-- NO, they are not. They can't even define woman. They're free to identify as a deity, but that doesn't make it so... It makes them delusional, or narcissistic or BOTH
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@justyana488 Then insisting that one needs to alter their biology, to be "who they really are" is extraordinarily odd
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@justyana488 Clearly, what is "common sense" among whose who have difficulty defining what is a woman, is what's common among those with intellectual deficits so massive, further illustrated by the fact that they can't discern fantasy from reality, making them dissociative by default-- Sort of makes their opinion less than useless, and without credibility for the same reason.
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@chall8114 They're a phone scammer too... No moral character whatsoever
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They obviously aren't as big a threat to men, as men are to women-- which is why you don't hear men complaining
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There's only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female, making the use of cis/trans intellectually vacant and totally useless.
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@wesleasmith1491 I know... You're instead, confusing them as gender differences and, They are not and I've already clarified that point to you in another thread. A sign of intelligence is the ability to take new information and course correct your understanding, and the inability to do that indicates a lack thereof.
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@nathanmccoy9188 "Realize your biology"? What is that supposed to mean? When they say a trans-woman is a woman, what does that mean to you? A woman is an adult, female, human. If gender is merely a social construct, and disconnected from biology, why bother altering one's appearance to appear like the sex/gender which you are not-- and cannot be? Seems like you're altering your biology because you don't realize your biology.
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@nathanmccoy9188 Look, it's XX, XY, Birth defect. That's it Intersex is not another gender. It's a birth defect/anomaly. You're attempting to rename variability in personality and temperament (neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence tomboys, effeminate males, or butch females), 'Gender', and that's just incorrect
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1/2 the panel don't comprehend the differences between males and females, so it really isn't a shocker
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The world doesn't owe you a living, so if you aren't prepared to feed yourself, don't engage in risky behavior that may facilitate another mouth to feed
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@TheLegendOfRandy It's as if it never occurred to you that my comments are actually visible, proving your assertion totally false, and highlighting your analysis as intellectually stunted.
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@Cle-o All women are born female, making the use of cis totally useless and irrelevant.
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@yungjoemighty879 Yes, they are. You're attempting to rename personality traits which are not exclusive to sex/gender-- "Gender", and that is incorrect
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Because birth control is not always effective, and you know this-- YOU risk the avoidable, by engaging in risky behavior.
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Ab0rti0n isn’t bodily autonomy, but choosing to use birth control IS, as is the choice to risk unwanted pregnancy's-- OR, not to.
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@empresscrafts689 How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@mrme9624 Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then your identity is not valid.
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@redacted5035 A woman is an adult, human female, and he is not that, and can never be that-- so how do you figure??
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@markusbaker1161 The laugh is my response to your preferred pronouns nonsensical idiocy.
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Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. All they're doing is altering their appearance and body chemistry. They're not 'Trans' ANYTHING whatsoever. Their the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after.
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Cry harder! The thing is, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and their natural body chemistry. Still men
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Same as every other mammal-- including humans. 2
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@gabriellevitale4670 Get Real... The world doesn't owe you a living and neither do the tax payers. Get Real... Those who advocate in favor of terminating the innocent in the womb are ghouls, looking to indulge their base animal instincts, with no consequences for their own actions. If you indulge in actions which risk the avoidable, you increase the chances of facilitating that which you claim you're against. Get your damned tubes tied if you're going to act like animals
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@gabriellevitale4670 Women are the ones in charge of risking turning their eggs into an embryo, when they facilitate it by engaging in the one and only act which causes their avoidable dilemma.
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Their ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. A woman is an adult, human, female.
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@harpoonmcfierce9697 Well, the notion that a male trapped in a female body, having an immutable male identity-- being the justification for transition surgery-- shows your narrative is just WRONG, and shows what you're calling "Science" to be Science-Fiction. It's XX (Male), XY (Female), Birth Defect, Evidence that a psych evaluation and treatment commence immediately-- if not sooner, or just a male or female pervert looking to justify their perverted tendencies-- That's it.-- Science You're attempting to rename personality traits 'gender', and that's wrong too
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@Maksie0 There's only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born females-- making the use of cis irrelevant and totally absurd
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Irony? You just identified yourself as a woman. Just sayin...
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@justonetime6179 It's a noun
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@justonetime6179 You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek too, but that doesn't make you a Klingon in reality-- regardless of the way you may feel about it, and those who think it does are delusional. I accept that there are people who are males and females and that some of each have birth defects and psych disorders, but that doesn't invalidate the binary
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Show me someone who values women's rites, and advocates to diminish them, and I'll show you a hypocrite
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@sodiumso6015 That's rather elitist of you
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@mariec3733 None of that is correct. Do you believe that life has value? Why not for the innocent in the womb?
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Science says, "XX, XY, Birth Defect/Anomaly... That's it". Science-fiction says, "Gender and biology are disconnected"
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There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born Female-- making the use of cis entirely useless and irrelevant
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Did you not realize that a birth defect is not another gender?
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There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the use of cis entirely useless and irrelevant. Trans women are Men with issues, pretending that they're women without issues. Still men
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@mariec7352 Yup... You can't force people who would terminate the lives of their own offspring in the name of convenience, to care about morality, or anything other than themselves. You can't force irresponsible people to be responsible, and there's no shortage of people who act like they're the center of the universe and everyone and everything comes secondary to their base impulses-- consequences be damned.
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A woman is an adult, human, female. That's a biological category, not a social construct. Those men have no business in women's spaces Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. You're confusing gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament with gender, while simultaneously conflating biological sex with gender.
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@deardreamershoppe Well, you can have a surgeon alter a human to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, and that doesn't actually make them a Klingon-- Even if they REAALLLYYY believe it either. Try to focus... The same is true regarding males and females; That biological condition is permanent, and their attempts to alter their appearance doesn't alter reality either
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@mariec7352 I know it's difficult for you, but try to discern the difference between avoiding an unwanted pregnancy and avoiding sex. They're not mutually exclusive of one another. Use your imagination (Giving you the benefit of the doubt here)
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@markusbaker1161 Gender roles, not gender-- are socially constructed. Cite the source of this alleged "science" you keep referring to
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@mariec3733 There isn't anyone more obsessed with trans people than the trans activists, such as yourself and trans people. The technical word used for people like you is delusional
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@markusbaker1161 I know You said trans women are women. Looks like you're saying women are a social construct, and I wouldn't put it past you dear-- you haven't made any coherent case yet-- to support that statement or to explain the logic behind why those biological men should be granted access into women's private spaces, regardless of their objections.
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@markusbaker1161 Yet, you continue to connect them as though they weren't separate by phrasing your statement trans women are women. Trans women are not biological women, and women aren't a social construct-- So how do you figure those men (since gender is according to you disconnected from sex), are women? Incoherent idiocy on your part
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@mariec3733 People who care about children don't go around advocating for their termination, in the name of convenience. Kick Rocks
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@Maksie0 Nope
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@mariec3733 Gaslight harder. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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Gender categories, which illustrate the social aspects and range of personality traits and temperament of being male and female, respectively. Woe to the feminists who buy into this anti-woman ideology as in their near future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim they're women-- and you don't even see it coming.... Wake up The incoherent trans narrative inappropriately conflates the variability of personality traits and temperament, neither of which is gender exclusive hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys-- with gender. Gender deals with the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male and female-- respectively
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@Maksie0 Then how do you explain those who claim to be trans, who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria?
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@andrewbrasfield1104 I find a male like Blossom, insisting on being recognized as a her-- ridiculous
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So? He said they're, and there-- too. If they don't have a problem with their friendship, who are you to object?
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@bacongritty They don't invalidate anything. The time to choose to avoid an unwanted pregnancy is prior to conception because after come the consequences. Women are the one's who choose to risk themselves getting pregnant (Obviously not talking about rape), and that the power to avoid an unwanted pregnancy is ALL up to them. How is that not totally accurate?
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@bacongritty You've been spamming the same comment all through the comment section, and my question seems to illustrate that your comment invalidate nothing whatsoever. It's sad that you fail to recognize there is more available to women than that. IUD, The Pill, insisting on their partner's use of Condoms, tubal ligation are all 'Other' options than abstinence. That being said, dare to answer my question? Who, if not those who can actually get pregnant, is responsible for and in charge of avoiding the avoidable unwanted pregnancy?
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@mariec3733 It starts with the woman granting access, and facilitating her risk in the 1st place, with her choice to risk it. Try to focus In the case of rape, is the resulting child's life less valuable because one or both of their parents are bad? I don't see how
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@bacongritty Again... It starts and stops, with her consent to dance the dance and risk herself getting pregnant. She has ALL the power to avoid the avoidable.
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@mariec3733 1% doesn't justify the other 99%
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@weloveagoodroll9599 They're narcissists. That's just how they roll
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@DefiledDame Male (XY) and female (XX) are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous-- and they are not
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Learn the differences-- so you can Quit conflating gender with personality and gender roles, as though they're synonymous. They aren't
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@blakenewall Not much of a refutation. Just because you object, doesn't make it invalid
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@blakenewall You can neuter a dog and put him in a dress, but make no mistake he's still a male dog, regardless of the surgery and elaborate disguise-- and regardless of how the dog may perceive things, that doesn't alter the fact that he's still a male dog. Similarly, the same is true regarding the gender dysphoria situation. Their subjective feelings have no bearing on the objective fact that they are not the sex which they claim to be. They can identify as a deity, but that doesn't make it true and it certainly creates no obligation to invalidate objective reality for the sake of their delusional sense of self
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@blakenewall That or you flagged it in a cowardly fashion. So, what they're saying is-- There is no gender pay gap, and quotas and affirmative action should be eliminated, being as gender is fluid? Ya, it is ridiculous
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Because the truth matters, dear
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@Erik-fn7kj Yes... Perhaps not the ones you know-- but that's besides the point
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@eviel1618 I raised my own since he was a newborn-- over 32 years ago, without his bio-mom in the picture. Why can't you do the same or avoid the avoidable? There is no such thing as a life free from adversity. I'm not asking women to risk anything. YOU are. I'm asking them to avoid the avoidable and pointing out that adversity doesn't grant justification for taking a life. The final say on whether or not women are willing to risk themselves getting pregnant, when facilitating it-- is why they have no one to blame but themselves for their avoidable self-inflicted dilemmas. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than that of a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences? You are jumping through a lot of hoops to attempt to justify terminating the innocent in the womb, and you have failed. There is no justification
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Trans women are men portraying a social construct counter to their reality
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@conor.3875 Your total lack of integrity and foolishness regarding the fact that a woman is an adult, human, female which is a biological category which is fixed and permanent-- making the claim that trans women are not men intellectually disconnected from reality
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@conor.3875 Your opinion is less than useless
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@Maksie0 Nah... That's just the sound of reality rejecting your imaginary bull 💩
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@Maksie0 No they don't. They're not trans anything. Same sex/gender as they were born
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A basic 6th grade biology textbook in the chapter on reproduction and fertilization should help clear it up for you.
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Or, they work out at the gym, Or-- they aren't emotionally affected by the same sort of things that women are, in the same way that women are because they're Men
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Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Ooops.... Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Gender is not disconnected from biology. The 2 are intrinsically linked. They aren't trans ANYTHING. They're the exact same sex prior to altering their appearance as they are after. At BEST, they're LARPing
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Well, they only account for 1% of abortion cases. Incest cases are even lower
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More accurately-- Men vs women
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@jessvalley6813 No doubt, though-- still less traumatic than a death sentence
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@mariec3733 Birth control is a means for preventing you from getting pregnant. It doesn't always work, and you know that-- so YOU assume the risk of getting pregnant, when you're out there creating the risk you say you're desperately trying to avoid. You just want an easy pass to be promiscuous without any consequences. Well, there's no such thing. Please NEVER procreate. Get your tubes tied, since you have such a vested interest in maintaining your pursuit of promiscuity on demand
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Nothing, but it's not as effective at preventing women's unwanted pregnancy's, as women not facilitating their risk in the 1st place.
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@LizwiththeFrizz You don't. It just happens to work out that way
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@imnotnotgameiacmaniac5327 They are Questions, and NO ONE has attempted to address them. Why not? Too Real? Exposes the idiocy? If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? It's incoherent -- or that only the individual themselves can determine their gender identity-- if it's a social construct, how does that work?? Again, It's incoherent If it were true, that gender is a social construct, fluid, and malleable and not biological-- why the need to transition biologically? Again, incoherent They're already, who they are to themselves, and the proclivity to alter their biology, suggests that gender is NOT separate from biology. Why the desire to change if gender is merely a social construct? Again, it's incoherent No, It's XX, XY, Birth defect or evidence that a psych evaluation and treatment be considered, and btw-- the exceptions to the rules do not invalidate the rules. They validate them, hence being the exceptions
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@conor.3875 There's only 1 kind of woman, and as it turns out-- there's a prerequisite to being a woman, and that's being born female, making the cis prefix is irrelevant.
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@markusbaker1161 No, they do not. Putting lipstick on a pig doesn't make it a woman.
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@Maksie0 You still haven't figured it out yet? Get better therapy
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@markusbaker1161 That is the correct translation of what I said about your comment
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@markusbaker1161 Go back and re-read-- only slower this time so you don't miss it again
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@markusbaker1161 So then-- quit asking questions. All it does is highlight your intellectually vacant comprehension capacity, when you are unable to comprehend the answers. You tell me, why should a male be granted access to women's private spaces like dressing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, sports teams or prisons? 🦗🦗🦗
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@markusbaker1161 You can say that with perfect utility and yet, it proves nothing and refutes even less. Your intentional foolishness doesn't further the cause you seem to advocate-- with those who aren't on board with the trans-cult narrative
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@markusbaker1161 Your clowning is boring, unproductive and doesn't validate your claims nor invalidate mine. I call them men. Changing the name of something doesn't change the something into something else. It only changes the word you're using to describe them. They're still men. Take your time to process that.
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In all fairness, he is mentally impaired
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Farmers raise hens (not roosters) for their eggs!!!! Get a Clue
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@mariec3733 It means males cannot become females and vice versa
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@markusbaker1161 There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women, illustrating that your narrative is a totally bogus faith-based belief with zero evidence to support your claim that trans women are women. Checkmate / You lost
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@mariec3733 In the majority of cases, ie. not a rape-- women are the catalyst who facilitate their own, avoidable situation, knowing that they're risking a pregnancy, when indulging in sex with men.
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@mariec3733 Understanding how basic biology functions, hasn't been a controversial issue, except perhaps for the women who act like it's men's fault, that the women who choose to risk the avoidable, actually achieve it by their own actions-- with consent. You're welcome
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@lanisehoward8397 Intersex isn't another gender in the binary. Why, because there is no newly discovered benefit or attribute elevating the human design and they are often infertile, but always only represent the 2 sexes in the binary. Also, NONE are w/ the ability to reproduce offspring by themselves. It's a silly argument to make.
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@lanisehoward8397 Everything I wrote you, that is being censored/shadow banned illustrates that whoever is blocking/censoring the responses is terrified of having the nonsense narrative and ideology exposed for what it is. Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders -- who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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Oh ya... Just ask Budweiser
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@menash000 In the 1% of cases, where that's the situation-- is the innocent child in the womb less valuable because one of their parents was bad?
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@Lacheythebeautiful Women are the one's who risk pregnancy, when choosing to facilitate it, when engaging in the one and only act which causes their avoidable dilemma. Their dilemma is of their own making, and they're without excuse. Why can't they responsibly avoid their unwanted pregnancy's? Since women are the one's in charge of risking it, you'd think they'd be smarter about it. There are literally millions of women who successfully plan their family's, and effectively utilize their preventative birth control. What do you think they know that eludes so many who obviously don't?
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@menash000 I think you haven't bothered to answer my question and that life is worth living. There are literally millions of women who successfully plan their family's, and effectively utilize their preventative birth control. What do you think they know that eludes so many who obviously don't?
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@menash000 Is the life of that child somehow less valuable? I don't think so
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@menash000 No, you did not... No matter I'm not under the impression that there's a place for a meeting of the minds between those who value life, and those who advocate terminating the innocent in the womb. Women are the one's who risk pregnancy, when choosing to facilitate it, when engaging in the one and only act which causes their avoidable dilemma. Their dilemma is of their own making, and they're without excuse. I raised my own as a single father, without the bio-mom in the picture. Why can't they responsibly avoid their unwanted pregnancy's? Since women are the one's in charge of risking it, you'd think they'd be smarter about it. There are literally millions of women who successfully plan their family's, and effectively utilize their preventative birth control. What do you think they know that eludes so many who obviously don't?
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Not surprising of people w/ psych issues, to come to illogical and irrational conclusions.
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@Maksie0 No they aren't. They're men, regardless of you calling them something else-- still men, just with a quirky fashion sense
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Too bad that no one asked if the trans-activists were aiming to prove the gender pay gap is a total myth, with their ideology's insistence that gender is fluid-- 🤯
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@haleybelle7926 Looks like an impulse control and/or a self-control problem
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@haleybelle7926 I feel for your plight, however; it certainly isn't indicative of normal responses, by people who do not share your personal developmental deficits and challenges that they present you. Remember the exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule-- they prove the rule hence being the exceptions
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@GrahamChapman You're not non-binary. A couch is non-binary. Your feelings don't invalidate biology, nor obligate others to deny objective reality to affirm you being recognized as you perceive yourself subjectively.
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@Maksie0 A normal psyche is not the same as one with a disorder
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@conor.3875 What I think is, you have shown yourself to be incapable of justifying the termination of the innocent in the womb, and advocating in favor of doing so, also shows you to be morally bankrupt and your arguments have been intellectually vacant
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@conor.3875 You've presented no debate whatsoever. You've established nothing but your own ignorance and have refuted nothing. My thoughts on your lacking moral character and intellectually vacant arguments have been validated by your history of ad hominem attacks, and substance free commentary
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@mariec3733 Oh--like vaccine mandates? Get lost
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@freedommatters7677 I was merely riffing with the metaphor. 1. The mother was alive, prior to the pregnancy, and her actions caused the pregnancy ie. she put the child in there. 2. A pregnant woman does indeed, house her developing child during gestation, obviously. 3. The woman who chose to risk pregnancy, and achieved it-- created another life using her own organs to do so 4. A fetus being in a woman's body, is there because her actions and consent to risk it, facilitated the entire scenario and started the process. 5. When a woman goes into labor, it's not a matter of her choosing when the time comes-- it comes in it's own time (barring induced labor-- obviously) 6. Not when you agreed to baby sit for a newborn 7. Not when they're a baby 8. There is no case, where a woman facilitated the pregnancy with her own actions, where they aren't inviting a risk. 8b. If the mother's life is in peril is the exception to the rule All abortions have one goal-- to terminate the life of an innocent
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@teletubbymeme8171 Nope, all that's wrong. How are they not creating and facilitating their own dilemma, when consenting to risk a pregnancy? fyi-- women do have a part in the creation recipe, as their XX chromosomes are a part of the recipe, and without it pregnancy is not even remotely possible
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That certainly wasn't much of an explanation clearing anything up.
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It's happened, and female inmates ended up r@ped and pregnant
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@markusbaker1161 Let's not pretend that the Loudin county case of a hs girl getting assaulted, etc... doesn't exist
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Actually, it is womanhood which is under attack. To ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where as a feminist-- you'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are women. They'll be competing in the workplace against you. They'll be competing in women's sports-- against you. In the restrooms, in the showers, in the locker room, in prisons. Ya, it's a war against women. The Seed of the Serpent vs the Seed of the Woman is what you're witnessing unfold
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Because they're the same gender/sex they were prior to altering their appearance as they are after not dissimilar to drag queens
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Adversity doesn't grant justification for taking a life. You are jumping through a lot of hoops to attempt to justify terminating the innocent in the womb, and you have failed. There is no justification. The child resulting from an assault isn't any less valuable. Terminating a pregnancy doesn't erase the trauma of an assault. It does however, create 2 victims where there was only one. There are tons of testimonies of women who've been assaulted and gone through with the pregnancy, delivered, and raised the child to be happy, productive members of society, and others who give the child up for adoption. You, conveniently ignore them. Shameful
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There is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female. There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are
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Both men and women already have a choice to be parents, regardless of the legality of ab0rti0n
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@rainestorm6029 The one's born female
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@abbyanderson2463 Tell that to the girls who were sexually assaulted in the girls locker rooms in high schools, and in women's prisons-- where trans-women raped and impregnated female inmates, etc.
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No... Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable... That's why sovereign nations have borders. How many children have you raised to become well-adjusted and productive members of society?
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@towelle91845 That intellectually bankrupt dude is unhinged from reality.
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@Maksie0 It's an analogy fool.
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@markusbaker1161 No. You're an anarchist, agent provocateur. Be grateful for internet anonymity. Your provocation wouldn't be tolerated in person and you know it.
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@mariec3733 They do when they say trans women are women. It really doesn't matter. Your nonsense is just that-- nonsense. Playing dress up doesn't mean all of society must play along. The world doesn't owe you anything. Deal with it. You are not that which you portray yourself and people recognize that. Too bad so sad for you. Now be gone
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I can't imagine being the type of woman who doesn't recognize that the incoherent trans ideology is anti-woman. You're going to need a lot of 'Luck' when in your not too far off dystopian future where they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will say they're women
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@markusbaker1161 i challenged what you assert are facts with questions about the conclusions, and you had no response but disingenuous antagonism, deflection, and playing the part of a fool. I am still open to having an intellectually sound, adult conversation with anyone interested, but you seem to instead prefer juvenile sparring sessions free from integrity. That's your choice, but it isn't conducive to a productive dialogue-- so that's where we're at.
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Who is responsible for preventing unwanted pregnancy, more than those who can actually become pregnant? Who's in charge of preventing and/orfacilitating that pregnancy, in the first place?
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@mariec3733 So, you're saying men are in charge of women?
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@mariec3733 If men are in charge of women, then what are you complaining about?
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@thecolorblue1635 No offense, but that comment wasn't even as deep as a baby spoon
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As a single dad who raised my son (Now in his 30's), without the bio-mom in the picture from the time he was born-- I have to tell you, make better choices with whom you choose to risk getting pregnant.
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@medusachristo4998 And... women knowing that, when choosing to risk it, are without excuse. Assaults do happen, and in those 1% of cases, the innocent resulting child isn't less alive, or less human, or less valuable. Terminating the lives of the innocent is wrong.
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@mariec7352 Yes, that's my comment-- and I'm glad you agree with me, that terminating the lives of the innocent is wrong
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@mariec3733 You finally ready to admit that it's women's fault for risking their body's becoming pregnant, not men who take them up on their offer to give it up?? Ya, I didn't think so. Buh bye
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Most in it, are there due to legal issues regarding legal custody issues, not orphans
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@TheLegendOfRandy Irrelevant. A non-viable fetus is dead. Assuming you meant a viable fetus, the answer is: You put them there with consent-- by your own actions, to risk the pregnancy in the 1st place.
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@r5014 1 MILLION up votes
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@Maksie0 Cis/trans are attempts by radical ideologues to distract from the fact that there is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- and that all men are born male, with zero exceptions, so they can pretend that their LARP and cosplay is based in reality
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The history and the durability of the binary dates back to the beginning. Try again?
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@conor.3875 Cis is irrelevant, as there is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female
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They're still men.
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@samlafontaine8552 There are males and females. That's it... Now you know. A woman isn't a costume that men can put on, and she isn't a social construct. Update your understanding to comprehend the fact that personality and gender aren't synonymous
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They're activists disguised as being neutral-- Similarly, their female panel disguised as men pretending to be something they're not and can never be
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The Satanic Bible, perhaps?
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@OptimisticCynic45 It is when it's brought it up as a topic for discussion. Cope harder
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@OptimisticCynic45 1. Yes... Of course ALL women have control over their body's. Clearly I'm not addressing assault victims in this 2. A human is only capable of being pregnant with a human. 3. The vast majority of those who seek the procedure aren't facing an imminent health risk 4. There are MILLIONS of women who effectively plan their families and who effectively utilize their birth control products and methods. What do you think they know that eludes so many, who do not? 5. Innocent children should not face termination because adults can't act responsibly
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They should be designated to use the men's restroom-- if they're males, and the female's restrooms if they're females, and be assigned to male prisons if they're male and women's prisons if they're female. PERIOD They are not trans ANYTHING. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do.
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@mariec3733 Nobody? That's not correct, but even if it were true, gender doesn't invalidate biology-- so why should those men being referred to as trans women, be granted access to women's private spaces?
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@mariec3733 That's not correct, but even if it were true, gender doesn't invalidate biology-- so why should those men being referred to as trans women, be granted access to women's private spaces?
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@krasmasov6852 Something that's incoherent, and isn't manifest in objective reality, is a fantasy-- not another form of reality
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@marsdavidson8307 Look, I'm not confused about the differences between males and females or about how the trans-activist ideology is incoherent. What's your excuse?
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@marsdavidson8307 Gender is not disconnected from biology, no matter how loudly you protest
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:face-green-smiling::face-blue-smiling:🤣😂🤭🤪😜 H I L A R I O U S That dude is unhinged from reality, with a shoe size that dwarfs his IQ
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@mariec3733 Yours didn't, and yet they both seem to have something in common. Yours, even though visible, is equally irrelevant. Life is worth living. Why don't you think so?
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@mariec7352 Did I quote you? Answer: No... You obviously assign life value at some point, as you're desperate to argue about women having a choice to terminate their unborn in the womb, in the name of the value of their lives. You've also argued about the potential negative quality of life to be for the unborn, as an attempt to justify a woman' arbitrary decision to terminate the life of her offspring in the womb. So why such a desperate dodge? Don't value innocent life "Either"? Either??? So, an admission that you don't value innocent life? There's a notable difference between advocating 'For' something vs not opposing it. If a mother's life is in imminent peril and nothing is done, she and the fetus/baby perish-- as it cannot survive at the 20 week +/- marker, outside of the mother-- for the VAST majority-- when those decisions typically required to be made, and so seems to be in a not dissimilar category as suffering a miscarriage, as it goes to the fate of the unborn's termination. How is it not? Why do you appear to have a problem with women being able to save their lives? Looks like it Sucks to be you. Once again, you didn't comprehend a single response given. If you don't care about a woman's culpability in preventing her own unwanted pregnancy, why and how does, as you've done continually-- pointing to a man's contribution matter? It's not like she could get pregnant, if she didn't facilitate and enable her own risk factors and ensuing dilemma. What do you think she needs to figure out, that millions of other women seem to have figured out-- related to avoiding their unwanted pregnancy's? Why does personal accountability and responsibility appear to trigger a response from you that looks like desperation, as you try to reassign blame and avoid a woman's personal accountability at any cost, in her role of facilitating her unwanted pregnancy? You've failed to explain your thoughts adequately. How do you continually fail to account for those facts and factor them into your analysis and conclusions?
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Nope, that does nothing to address changing rooms, showers, locker rooms, dressing rooms or prisons, nor does it address lost opportunities re: scholarships, sports teams, sports. The problem you have is that life is based in objective reality, which exposes your narratives, as intellectually vacant. Choosing to call an apple an orange, doesn't alter the nature of an apple nor an orange. Your preferences re: s3xu@l matters don't alter whether or not you're male or female, and neither does choosing self mutil@tion or castration. The thing is, societies which have been long established, and steeped in tradition aren't obligated to abandon their established cultural norms to support a counter-culture ideology. To suggest that they owe it to you is the height of narcissism and arrogance. It's for YOU to integrate into the society which you choose to be in, not for everyone in society to change for you. Sheesh.... That sound you're hearing is the sound of rejection from the vast majority of the people on earth, of the trans-activist, ideological, cult narratives. Nobody owes you. Cope Harder
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Being "Trans" IS the construct, based in fantasy
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They're arrogant, narcissists. That's what they do
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@ceciliaj3148 Define masculinity 🦗🦗🦗
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@petemiller2920 His position is that trans women are women, making the insistence on the prefix entirely redundant and extraordinarily odd. He's a mere caricature of what he wishes he was, and can never be-- a woman. Not trans ANYTHING. Still the same after altering his appearance and a wardrobe change, as he was before.
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@petemiller2920 One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Cope Harder
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@petemiller2920 Re: 1 of 3, adjectives aren't prefixes. Try again?
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@petemiller2920 The delusions of those who operate in a dissociative state aren't limited to rational and reason, as they aren't founded in reality. They're gender pretenders with a sense of narcissism that's off the charts
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@petemiller2920 I accept that there are people. They are male and female, and segments of each present w/ various physical birth defects and various psych disorders, some with both. People like Blossom aren't trans anything. There merely caricatures of that which they wish they could be, and never will-- women
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Seems relevant, in terms of being relatable. What's your issue?
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If one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must deny objective reality, then that identity is invalid
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Both
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@freedommatters7677 You've established nothing and have refuted even less. In what way are my argument's a false equivalence?
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@freedommatters7677 No I didn't.
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@Maksie0 Chill out, Blossom
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Um, No... Race is biological not a social construct. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male and female, respectively
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Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. If you've got male biology, use the men's room and if you have female biology, you'd use the female restroom-- since restrooms in general are designed around biology not subjective identity,no?
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@stinkygremlin267 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female-- respectively. Male and Female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. You can identify as a Klingon if you like-- but it doesn't make you an actual Klingon even if you have a surgeon give you hormones and surgery to alter your appearance to look like a Klingon, and you REALLY believe it.
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@mariec7352 Recognizing the processes of nature, biology and the reality of cause and affect-It seems nature doesn't respect your feelings on how things ought to be, and why would it-- you don't think life is valuable?
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@TheLegendOfRandy 1. Only women get pregnant. 2. I would presume, since most parents wouldn't need to be compelled legally-- as their morals would compel them to protect their child
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@mariec7352 How is it anyone else, beside the woman herself's responsibility, to avoid facilitating her own unwanted pregnancy???
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@mariec7352 I'm not. I'm focusing on the root of the problem of unwanted pregnancies, which is women themselves-- making choices to risk getting themselves in a situation which facilitates their own unwanted pregnancies. Not the men-- who take them up on their offer to fool around. Feel free to continue to try and avoid the truth, but it doesn't make your case any stronger, or valid.
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@mariec7352 I've already explained it, and you've proven you're clearly incapable of understanding the explanation. Your failure to refute anything is proof. You lose
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@mariec7352 Your strawman argument doesn't withstand scrutiny. Their choice would've been to not be assaulted. Duh-- Obviously they're not choosing to risk pregnancy. How does that elude you? I was discussing the choices to risk unwanted pregnancy, and assault victims are by default not included as their choice was taken from them. So-- knock it off, with your intentionally obtuse strawman arguments. You, shifting focus away from the majority of cases, to the 1%-- as though they're interchangeable is disingenuous at best-- and wavering back and forth in an effort to avoid the truth isn't winning you any points; It is diminishing the potential for you to establish what is currently a non-existent credibility rating even further. The resulting new human life that results from conception, isn't disposable because they were the result of an attack, or because of a poor choice by a woman risking an unwanted pregnancy, or by the failure of preventative birth control, because life is valuable. That's my pov. You've already admitted that you don't think life is valuable, and won't-- until your level of acceptable lifestyle and comfort are 1st established. I don't believe that your version of Utopia is even remotely possible. I know it's difficult for you, but try to discern the difference between avoiding an unwanted pregnancy and avoiding sex. They're not mutually exclusive of one another. Use your imagination (Giving you the benefit of the doubt here)
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@mariec7352 You ought to switch to decaf. Try actually reading the comment I made. Try reading it slower this time, so you don't miss the answers again. It is not anyone else's responsibility, beside the woman herself, to avoid facilitating her own unwanted pregnancy. Get a Clue I already told you, the root of the problem of unwanted pregnancies, is women themselves-- making choices to risk facilitating their own unwanted pregnancies. Not the men-- who take them up on their offer to fool around. Feel free to continue to try and avoid the truth, but it doesn't make your case any stronger, or valid.
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@mariec7352 Ya, you need better material. Your narrative is totally invalid, fails to make your case, and certainly fails to refute what I've written. You should accept your loss graciously and move on, rather than continue to make a spectacle of yourself, while simultaneously highlighting your unchecked attention seeking behavior, and doubling down on your failing arguments. You've lost the plot
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@firstofawll Not even close
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@markusbaker1161 Don't be triggered. Your aversion to anything that isn't rooted in confirmation bias is showing. The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@markusbaker1161 Your ever present anti-woman, anti-social, 'Look at me' arguments, suggest otherwise. You seem just as -- T r i g g e r e d, as you did on the debate panel. Shocker... :text-green-game-over:
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@markusbaker1161 You say that as if you believe it takes being a doctor to decipher the differences between males and females. :face-blue-smiling::face-green-smiling:
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@markusbaker1161 Doesn't matter why you wrote all the things you have. They're still incoherent nonsense, based in subjective imagination, and the claims of activist professionals pushing an agenda, which crumble and fail to stand up to scrutiny-- when basic logic is applied-- which challenge the assertions of the narrative, and highlight it's incoherence. When challenged on the rational, logic, or integrity of the activist ideological narratives-- you ran away by writing that you don't owe me an explanation. We can agree to disagree
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@markusbaker1161 If your identity is predicated upon the notion that others must recognize you as you perceive yourself subjectively-- contrary to objective reality, that identity is not valid. Your claim that humans are the only known species to have "awareness" is patently absurd and demonstrably false. Personality traits and variability of temperament among humans are not synonymous with gender.
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@kizoyah9253 Respect is reserved for that which is actually respectable.
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@mariec3733 I know YOU wouldn't... You're a classic nihilist, and an activist-- with an agenda. "I noticed everyone who is for abortion, has already been born". -- R. Reagan I am surprised to see that you dismiss the notion of white privilege, or male privilege (As do I)-- since you wouldn't say 'life is a privilege'. You can cling to your victim mentality if you wish, but character is illustrated (or not) by what people do in the face of adversity.
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@TheLegendOfRandy Nonetheless, someone is doing it. There were arguments that I made, and questions I asked-- which weren't deleted or censored, and you just disappeared, failing to refute them-- so your claim of me making bad arguments rings hollow. When the comments are deleted and/or censored by youtube hack, activists-- who are clearly not in favor of free speech it undermines the facade premise that these videos are 'middle ground' at all.
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If they don't have a problem with their relationship, who are you to judge them?
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@sanityslayer5291 Friends tell each other the truth, and if their friendship isn't based in truth... It's not a real friendship
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@finnoluna Nope, In fact-- None are, cuz male and female are biological categories set by chromosomes. Try again?
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Should be delusional men vs women
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@jasonbolding3481 It's about Logic. The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule-- they PROVE the rule, by being the exceptions. The thing is, men use lethal means of force, however; Women attempt it more often-- so is that an indicator that they're more screwed up, less competent-- or Both? Those who would resort to that sort of extreme means of attention-seeking, are VERY mentally unbalanced. To all the feminists who go along to get along w/ this incoherent ideology-- I wish you well in the near dystopian future, where you'll now be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will say they're women too.
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@kadjalaing2569 Not as something that they are not-- which is based in fantasy not reality, they don't.
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@kaavi1391 Exactly Correct
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The idiocy is them renaming men and thinking that somehow makes them women or entitled to women's private spaces. The entire ideology is incoherent madness
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@markusbaker1161 Read the title of the video you're commenting on.
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@markusbaker1161 Duh... I wouldn't try to refute my own correct statement
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@markusbaker1161 Yes! I am 1 of 1. Look, I get it-- you're an agitator. Knowing that my comments trigger you, because I'm not fooled into believing men are women due to a disguise, or altered terminology-- is just a perk. You're dismissed.
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@Nanajsiuz Say the people who are confused about the differences between men and women
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Jubilee-- Where psychosis and ignorance collide. Women cannot become men and men cannot become women. Oh ya-- intersex is a birth defect, not another gender-- of which there are only 2. They should Quit conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament with gender-- it's just incorrect. 🙄
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@Grinchillah Nonsense. All you've done is prove your reading comprehension deficit is massive. Assigning the innocent the death penalty, in the name of convenience, seems sociopathic to me.
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@Grinchillah No one is forcing those who don't want to have children to risk getting pregnant. Personal accountability and responsibility to you, are like sunlight to a vampire.
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@Maksie0 Blossom, You go away
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You don't need a uterus to know that terminating innocent children is wrong. The final say on whether or not women are willing to risk themselves getting pregnant, when facilitating it-- is why they have no one to blame but themselves for their avoidable self-inflicted dilemmas. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one driven like a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences? It's women, who have an obligation to themselves to avoid their own unwanted pregnancy's. Their men may be fine with her having a baby. Just sayin...
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It's also prisons, dressing rooms, sports and sports teams. If the addition of restrooms for trans people is required, perhaps it should be done in some new asylum construction designs.
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@krasmasov6852 Like I said, True gender dysphoria is extremely rare, and the fact that there are so many more identifying as trans, than those with the gender dysphoria diagnosis-- there are those who-- like me, argue that many are inappropriately grouped together under the gender dysphoria umbrella. I have a trans friend, who exclusively hooks up with females, and does not suffer from gender dysphoria. They're merely, admittedly embracing their own kink. Lets talk about the who are de-transitioning, and why that is... to put some perspective on the topic
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@mariec3733 You are apparently just stuck on stoopid, as I've already explained this to you several times. Making a concession for ab0rti0n, when a mother's life is in imminent peril, is not advocating 'For' ab0rti0n, at all. As for my other comments-- they're all still visible. Unfortunately, I can't remedy your cognitive deficit
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Other than a rape scenario, which is 1% of cases-- Women are the ones who need to exercise control over their body's-- to prevent their own unwanted pregnancies, in the other 99% of cases.
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I bet they didn't touch on the high rate of self-termination even after transition
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@markusbaker1161 How well it's working
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@markusbaker1161 Is it working well? Seems like something relevant to go find out.
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@markusbaker1161 What's yours? Mine was to draw attention to something which may prove interesting, and relevant.
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, I am 1 of 1. There is no study anywhere confirming that trans-women are not biological males. What horrors?
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@Erik-fn7kj I'm not. Your incompetence leading you to that conclusion is to blame.
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@Erik-fn7kj No, I was illustrating the approach to and considerations of treatment of mental illness. Your reading comprehension deficit is proving to be a HUGE problem for you, as it is for all the others who also have low double-digit IQ's-- when it comes to reaching rational, reasonable and intelligent conclusions-- making it impossible for you. It's sad, but not a surprise
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, I did. It's the 1st comment I made. Your inability to decipher that they're men or your willingness to pretend otherwise, changes nothing
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@markusbaker1161 Name the study that shows that trans-women aren't men. 🦗🦗🦗
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@markusbaker1161 No, it isn't
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@markusbaker1161 Why can't you cite the study on that site or on any other medical site for that matter-- which proves the claim that men can become women? I'll tell you why... Because it doesn't exist ANYWHERE
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@Maksie0 What's the supposed swindle? Get a clue
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@TheLegendOfRandy Every pro-abortion argument mirrors 19th century pro-slavery arguments: 1. Argument from ownership: “This slave/baby is my property/body. You can't tell me what to do with it.” 2. Argument from privacy: "No one is forcing you to have slaves/abortions. Mind your own business." 3. Argument from superseding rights: “My property/body autonomy rights come before the rights of a slave/fetus.” 4. Argument from inevitability: “Slavery/abortion has been around for thousands of years, it’s never going away. We might as well have a safe and legal system in place for it.” 5. Argument from pseudoscience: “Slaves/fetuses aren’t really people. They aren’t like us. Therefore we are human and they are not.” 6. Argument from socioeconomics: “If slavery/abortion ends, the slaves/babies will end up on the street without jobs.” 7. Argument from the courts: “Slavery/abortion was vindicated by the Supreme Court. It’s been decided. There’s no point in arguing it. It's settled law." 8. Argument from faux-compassion: “Slavery/abortion is in the best interest of Africans/babies. The world can be a cruel place. It’s best to protect them from it by keeping them enslaved/aborting them.” 9. Argument from the assumed hypocrisy of the other side: "You say you want to end slavery/abortion, but you don't want to live with freed slaves/adopt unwanted babies yourself.” -Matt Walsh 🤔
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@1musketeer311 Evidence of 'necessity' in the majority of cases, is simply not supported by the facts
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They ought to establish a dating sight, and leave Normies out of their delusional role play fantasies
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Half the country are the women, who's private spaces are being encroached upon by these people. There are nowhere near that many people on the side of this incoherent nonsense
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@markusbaker1161 Look at you carelessly demeaning women's rights
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@markusbaker1161 You already did, when you said that men should be allowed in women's private spaces-- with no regard for women's rights
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@markusbaker1161 So you don't think that that men should be allowed in women's private spaces-- with no regard for women's rights to privacy?
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@markusbaker1161 Look, I get it-- you're an agitator. Knowing that my comments trigger you, because I'm not fooled into believing men are women due to a disguise, or altered terminology-- is just a perk. You're dismissed.
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Wait... They said gender is fluid and disconnected from biology, so how then, is there male privilege? It's incoherent
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You think there were ANY 'sane' people there? Ya, I don't think so
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@mariec7352 Your commitment to idiocy is remarkable. You've still failed to justify terminating the innocent
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Irony is hilarious
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The narrative is incoherent idiocy from start to finish.
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@bingchilling634 Not my place to recognize that they're not that which they claim to be?? I'm not saying people can't indulge in LARPing or cosplay dress up if they want. I'm saying "trans" IS the construct, based in fantasy.
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Why should others not be afforded the same opportunity at life and 'luck' that you had?
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@hungryyellow2119 One of the commenters here in the comment section named Anthony Limon described their observation succinctly, as follows: "All I can say 14 mins in is that the trans people won't let the conservative men speak. They keep cutting them off, and the conservative men either finish their point and then listen, or simply listen and stop what they're saying. Seems a bit unfair that one side can say much more than the other side. And you see the trans people having no issue stepping all over the ideas of the conservative men. but you can see the conservative men walking on eggshells."
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@markusbaker1161 Cry me a river. Trans women, are confused men playing dress up.
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@markusbaker1161 You said trans women are women. That's wrong. You're still inappropriately conflating social constructs with biological reality-- exposing your irrationality and lack of logic. You don't have any credibility regarding deciphering facts from fiction or fantasy from reality.
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@the-birbo You wrote, "do you think a cis woman is any less of a woman because she gets surgery to make herself feel better about herself? I'm hoping not. Plus, most trans people don't get surgery or..." I don't think it makes her "more of a woman", being a better and more relevant comparison, imo Trans people who don't transition, are male or female. Trans people who do transition are still male or female. That doesn't change
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@MissLadyG99 "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@11235Aodh So, Blacks should all be in Africa is your position? WOW The Native Americans who slaughtered each other in rituals and wars. C'mon How far back do you want to go? Adam? Noah? Ancient cultures came to possess their land by way of conquest. The left counts on the ignorance of the sheep. That being said, no one alive today is responsible for the actions of people 500 years ago. Everyone born from those ancestors are here because of circumstance. Even the Native Americans, that we've recently had confirmed through DNA testing-- are of European, and Asian decent. The Disgruntled Millennial Podcast writes, “What's amazing to me is the total ignoring of what the Spaniards did to the Aztecs. Now, all of a sudden the descendants of those same Spaniards are being defended as indigenous peoples. WTF???” Mestizos (90% of the Mexican population) are a mix of white Spanish & Native blood. Mexicans also speak a European language & most practice a eastern Occidental religion that is based in a white, European capitol. Mexico is the result of European conquest. Cortez's Spaniards overthrew the bloodthirsty Aztec Empire that annually declared "Flower" Wars against their subjugated state Tlaxcala & murdered/sacrificed thousands of Tlaxcala’s annually-- to their "gods". The thing those knob heads crossing illegally, from Mexico, and those who advocate on their behalf can't figure out is that 1) Their ancestry (Mexico’s), stretches to Europe too, and… 2) The illegals coming to the USA, have never been a part of the native tribes that are here. 3) IF they sneak in illegally, they are ineligible for asylum. 4) When they refused Mexico’s offer of Asylum, Jobs and Shelter—they became ineligible for “Asylum” status here in the USA 5) A vast number of these kids are NOT coming w/ their parents. They are found to be w/ smugglers/human traffickers. Why does La Raza 1) NOT take into consideration that the area they claim-- was either conceded by Mexico, after it got it's ass whipped? 2) NOT address the fact that a large portion of the southwest was legally purchased from Mexico? Tell me, what part of the United States belonged to Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador, and Nicaragua?? Strange, it’s odd how they don’t seem to realize what Mexico (actually Mexico and Mexicans NOT Spain or Spaniards) did in the Comanche-Mexico Wars, the Apache-Mexico Wars and the other Mexico-Indian Wars-- to the people (who were actually indigenous to the territory United States, especially the parts of the U.S. that used to be part of Mexico or on its old borders). The Comanche and the Apache both did the serious raids far into Mexico due to Mexico’s belligerence against them. The Comanche almost got all the way to Mexico City in their attacks against Mexico. They weren’t doing that because Mexico was treating them well or because they felt themselves to be the same indigenous people as Mexicans-- and that’s leaving aside Cortez et al, and look at how Mexico treats its actual indigenous peoples-- still to this day.” There is a lot of genetic and archaeological evidence that supports the Multiple Migration theory (yet textbooks support a debunked single migration). Mexico won their lands by war, lost it by the same. Mexican citizens in the territories that became part of the USA were allowed to keep their property rights (so no "ancestral" claims hold much weight). They weren't forced to leave. Mexico could never hold Texas. Too many here (including the Comanche) hated them. There was at least one tribe that purchased protection from the Comanche, after having their villages regularly attacked by Mexico. (That would be the Wichita)
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@11235Aodh People that come to the USA to adopt the American way of life, assimilate into our culture, and honor out traditions and practices are called "Immigrants". People that come to this country illegally-- for a free ride, and try to impose their culture and beliefs upon this country, while at the same time destroying or removing the traditions and beliefs we hold dear are called "Invaders" Get it straight
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Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future-- they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will say they're women (And women who buy into the narrative don't even seem to see this coming)
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@qualalampFOOBOOairpillowsvolun Your question exposed and confirmed their intellectually stunted conclusions
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@Julasoxich That's his only goal
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@markusbaker1161 I recognize them, but as men who've chosen to make themselves a caricature of the women they wish they could be. I didn't make them do that. You appear triggered, that I'm not fooled by their disguises, and that I recognize that they're still men, but with a quirky fashion sense, some of whom who've had plastic surgery-- and that regardless of you calling them trans-women, I recognize that they're still men. If you want to pretend otherwise, nothing is stopping you. I am not judging that, I'm just observing it. Like I said, the 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female-- and those men aren't that. Hope that clarifies it for you
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@Maksie0 Not possible. Previous attempts prove futile
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@conor.3875 Poor thing... You don't know the difference between males and females.
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They are...
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You need to do better than the, 'Because you said so' standard -- which has been issued exactly ZERO credibility. To all the feminists who go along to get along w/ this incoherent ideology-- I wish you well in the near dystopian future, where you'll now be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will say they're women too.
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They're still males w/ psych issues, who've merely altered their appearance. They aren't 'trans' Anything
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The ability to exude toxic femininity, without pushback
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@Djordjevic00A Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is respectable. Gender and sex aren't disconnected. Gender is not a social construct. Gender roles are a social construct, and too many are seemingly unable to process that distinction. We're suppose to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe? Why?? They're misgendering themselves. They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior traits. I mean... C'mon now. It's ludicrous.
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@ayano_senpai8619 It varies among cultures, does it not? Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable... That's why sovereign nations have borders. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female.
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@mariec3733 Ya, my question is, "How is it anyone else, beside the woman herself's responsibility, to avoid facilitating her own unwanted pregnancy???" Your reply: Irrelevant chatter, not answering anything. Shocker /S You have no answer The Answer: It is Not anyone but a woman's responsibility to herself, to maintain her preferred status (pregnant, or Not). Obviously I'm under no delusion that there is a potential for a meeting of the minds, when it comes to philosophical issues about morality, such as issues like these which separate those who value life as something bigger than just an opportunity for self-gratification-- from those like you, who just don't. Besides, you said you were done wasting my time. You tend to deflect and start talking about assaults resulting in conception, and it bears repeating, since you don't seem to get it, "Your strawman argument doesn't withstand scrutiny. Their choice would've been to not be assaulted. Duh-- Obviously they're not choosing to risk pregnancy. How does that elude you? I was discussing the choices to risk unwanted pregnancy, and assault victims are by default not included as their choice was taken from them. So-- knock it off, with your intentionally obtuse strawman arguments. You, shifting focus away from the majority of cases, to the 1%-- as though they're interchangeable is disingenuous at best-- and wavering back and forth in an effort to avoid the truth isn't winning you any points; It is diminishing the potential for you to establish what is currently a non-existent credibility rating even further. The resulting new human life that results from conception, isn't disposable because they were the result of an attack, or because of a poor choice by a woman risking an unwanted pregnancy, or by the failure of preventative birth control, because life is valuable. That's my pov. You've already admitted that you don't think life is valuable, and won't-- until your level of acceptable lifestyle and comfort are 1st established. I don't believe that your version of Utopia is even remotely possible. I know it's difficult for you, but try to discern the difference between avoiding an unwanted pregnancy and avoiding sex. They're not mutually exclusive of one another. Use your imagination (Giving you the benefit of the doubt here)"
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@mariec7352 I don't care about your irrational attempts at justifying the unjustifiable. You fail to justify terminating the innocent. No one is forcing women to risk unwanted pregnancy. Other than a rape scenario, which is 1% of cases-- Women, are the ones who need to exercise control over their own body's to prevent and avoid their own "unwanted" pregnancies, in the other 99% of cases, 100% of the time.
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@Maksie0 Ridiculous... Trans woman is a term used to described men with issues, who wish they were women-- but aren't
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@mariec3733 No, only in around 1% of cases are they victims. The other 99% of cases-- they have no one but themselves to blame for facilitating their own totally avoidable self-inflicted dilemmas
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Yes, you do. If you're pro choice, the choice you're in favor of maintaining-- is to be able to terminate the child in the womb. The morals and ethics of those who would declare the unborn to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are questionable-- at Best, and are those of narcissists and sociopaths.
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He says, while whinging about proper pronoun usage. LOL The problem you have w/ your virtue signaling is the total lack of any actual 'virtue' in your whinging
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They suffer from psych disorders which prevent them from assimilating info which crushes their arctic room-temperature IQ analysis and conclusions
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So, you believe that masculinity is responsible for women being incarcerated for violent crimes? 🤣😂
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not interested in anything you have to say, unless it's an explanation as to why you believe those who you're putting your faith in, are correct, when their peers have articulated why they have issues with the conclusions, treatment protocols, and outcomes of their treatment. Why do you dismiss the opposing medical experts and professional's assessment?
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@Roxana Blacksea Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. Gender and sex are intrinsically linked, they're not disconnected. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're not trans ANYTHING. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're LARPing at BEST
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@Roxana Blacksea That's not much of a refutation. No worries. If the shoe fits... You're the same exact gender/sex prior to altering your appearance, as you are after... There's no hate in that. It's just being observant of objective reality.
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@djack39 The pronoun issue is strange. Personally, I use people's names, when speaking to them, not 1st person, 2nd person, or 3rd person pronouns. 1st person pronouns are grouped into 5 categories: Subject pronouns 1st person "I", Object pronouns 1st person "Me", possessive adjectives 1st person "My", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Mine", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Myself" 2nd person: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourself" 3rd person (Male): Subject pronouns 3rd person "He", Object pronouns 3rd person "Him", possessive adjectives 3rd person "His", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "His", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Himself" 3rd person (Female): Subject pronouns 3rd person "She", Object pronouns 3rd person "Her", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Her", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Hers", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Herself" 3rd Thing: Subject pronouns 3rd thing "It", Object pronouns 3rd thing "It", possessive adjectives 3rd thing "Its", Possessive pronouns 3rd thing "Not Used", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd thing "Itself" 1st person plural: Subject pronouns "We", Object pronouns 1st person "Us", possessive adjectives 1st person "Our", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Ours", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Ourselves" 2nd person plural: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourselves" 3rd person and (thing) plural: Subject pronouns "They", Object pronouns "Them", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Their", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Theirs", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Themselves".
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Intersex is a birth defect, where the individual has organs of both sexes male & female (Often non-functional) and they do not present another sex in the binary, and for that reason-- they don't invalidate the binary at all. Those with organs from both sexes are extremely rare and NONE are able to reproduce by themselves. Not a new sex/gender Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), with gender
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@Maksie0 The truth can be painful
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@mariec3733 Same to you. I have your quote above. Watching you deny then attempt to spin what you meant compared to what you actually wrote, is entertaining and disingenuous
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I don't get it... If someone gets implants in their @ss and identifies as a Centaur-- That doesn't make them one, but that seems to be the rational of those suggesting that altering one's appearance and identifying as the opposite sex, actually makes them that which they identify as... Make it make sense
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@loturzelrestaurant Not an explanation or a refutation. No one is saying you can't express yourself as you wish. You can identify as a Klingon if you choose-- BUT, that doesn't mean that others will perceive you as you perceive yourself. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do.
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@mariec3733 Your personal adversity does not justify terminating the innocent. Get Real
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@thecolorblue1635 No, due to not having an intellectual deficit which limits my analytical capacity to single digit IQ status, and having a firm grasp on reality. The notion that gender is fluid contradicts the other side of their claims which is that a girl trapped in a boys body has an immutable male identity. The fact that you fail to comprehend that says a lot about why your opinion is dismissed as less than useless
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@thecolorblue1635 Well, the incoherent ideology which purports that a girl trapped in a boy's body has an immutable male identity is at odds with the notion that gender is fluid, and disconnected from biology-- as both cannot be true. Actually, neither is true. It's XX, XY, Birth defect... That's It
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@thecolorblue1635 I've been maintaining the same point of view. Nothing in my comments are inconsistent with that narrative or with the understanding of the narrative. Yes, delusional people are capable of all sorts of delusional claims, none of which are valid. You can put a neutered dog in a dress, and he's still going to be a male dog... Just sayin Their feelings are irrelevant. If he 'Feels' like a girl that doesn't make it so. He quite literally has ZERO frame of reference to comprehend what it is to identify as the opposite sex. Pure imagination only Renaming personality traits 'gender' is invalid, as they are not synonymous nor gender specific, nor gender exclusive
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@Erik-fn7kj Because children don't possess the same decision making clarity as an adult, and even after-- they're still the same sex. Like I said in another thread-- having a plastic surgeon change your appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek, doesn't actually make you a Klingon. Same is true regarding gender transition surgery. Still, XX or XY and if the chromosome doesn't include a Y-- it isn't a guy
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@krasmasov6852 Your opinion is rejected. Telling children that they can change their gender is incorrect
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When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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@molls127 They represent a birth defect, not another gender in the binary.
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@gabriellevitale4670 I think you are a person who is looking to maintain your self-centered view of the universe, as justified. The 'Pro'-choice you're in favor of maintaining-- is the ability to terminate the child in the womb, in the name of convenience and it's shameful. The morals and ethics of those who would declare the unborn to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are questionable-- at Best, and are those of narcissists and sociopaths.
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Uh huh... How many kids have you raised to become happy, well-adjusted, productive members of society?
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@Maksie0 Being that all women are born female, how do you figure?
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They aren't trans anything-- they're still women who've merely had themselves mutilated to appear like something they're not and can never be, Men.
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@mariec3733 The 'Because you said so' standard has been issued zero credibility. You're a ghoul
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@babs_babs That's the sound of men and women everywhere, rejecting the incoherent trans-activist ideological narrative for the madness that it is. If you need further verification, ask Disney, Budweiser, and Target
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@orang9134 I luv watching the go woke go broke phenomenon
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@Maksie0 Stay tf away from other people's kids, is what it means
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He looks like Terry Cruz as President Dwayne Alizondo Mountain-Dew Camacho-- in Ineptocracy
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If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@Maksie0 St00pid isn't the new smart. Get Real Mutilation: Act of physical injury that degrades the appearance and/or function of any living body.
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Because they live in an alternative reality where their gender identity and self perceived identity is representative of how they're perceived and the rest of the world lives in reality and perceives that they are not that which they claim to identify as
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The nuance between being having emotions and being emotionally reactive is worth noting
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It's XX,XY, Birth Defect/Anomaly. Intersex isn't another gender. It's a birth defect. They're inappropriately attempting to rename and recategorize the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence tomboys, effeminate males, or butch females), "Gender"-- and that's just incorrect.
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@GrahamChapman There are people. They are male or female, respectively. Segments of each present with various physical and psych defects/disorders none of which invalidate the binary of all mammalian species. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament, with gender. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female. Male and female are biologica categories which are fixed and permanent.
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That dude is emotionally and intellectually stunted
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It's mostly an echo chamber of morons, as many of the opposing views are censored, deleted and shadow banned
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Hardly... Then there's the issue of prisons, changing rooms, locker rooms, and the fact that they aren't trans anything. Those dudes are men.
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@Maksie0 Which is exactly the same after altering their appearance as it was before they did. Still male or female respectively as they were born, since that condition is fixed and permanent
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@Maksie0 Cry harder troll
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@yyxsm That dude is unhinged from reality, and isn't any kind of 'she'
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@markusbaker1161 I don't support the now woke NBA either, so don't thank me
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@briannachilders772 Woe to the feminists who buy into this... In your near dystopian future you'll be oppressed by men who will claim to be women.
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@Maksie0 No, it doesn't. If you have an issue dealing with objective reality, that in no way alters objective reality.
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@Maksie0 Nope
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@catboyash The only point you have is on your head
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@markusbaker1161 Gender roles are constructed around the biological reality that there are differences between the sexes male and female, respectively. Your subjective trans clown identity doesn't alter your biology.
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@TheLegendOfRandy Without human life, there is no human autonomy, genius Against her will? SHE facilitated your existence. You need a smack in the head
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@TheLegendOfRandy You have continually failed to justify terminating the unborn in the womb, and this latest nonsense of yours is no exception. The morals and ethics of those who would declare the unborn to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are those of narcissists and sociopaths. Are you a phone scammer too?
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@TheLegendOfRandy You are clearly operating at a maximum of .2 Fetterman's-- on the IQ scale. You really need to do better
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Jake From State Farm You've already lost that bet
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@eveliinahannele A car crash is not the expected, nor natural result of driving a car. It's a potential risk that we mitigate, by driving carefully. Intentionally crashing your car is another matter all together. Other drivers causing accidents is a potential risk, not a natural consequence of driving. 🤣😂 Pregnancy is the natural result of sex. Getting into a crash is not the natural consequence of driving.
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@Maksie0 Some do... Others not so much. The reason for birth control is because the natural and expected consequential result of sex, is pregnancy-- and women know that birth control isn't always successful and this is the risk they 'CHOOSE'-- when indulging anyway
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@eveliinahannele Cite your source. How many of them are in total control over not risking pregnancy?
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@UC019OLaAbDi11H-c2fCk8_g Source?? Last I checked, rape and incest accounts for less than 1% of cases, not 50%. The rest of the 99+% of cases-- ALL have 100% total control over their bodily autonomy to not risk their bodies becoming pregnant. Yes, I understand what coercion is. Do you understand what personal responsibility and accountability are? I submit that if men were the one's who risked getting pregnant, there would be FAR fewer cases of unplanned pregnancies.
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@middlechild1267 No worries... 2-sexes/genders and a zillion psych illnesses.
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@jan.akisa. When egg and sperm combine to create an embryo, they create a new unique human life-- with it's own DNA, not some mere bacteria etc. What do you think women are pregnant with, if not humans? They're certainly not pregnant with aliens. Up your game junior
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@arixelle7859 Check out a 6th grade science book where it talks about fertilization
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@globesareround No worries. I wasn't under the impression that you were interested in hearing anything outside of your echo chamber. I was writing for those actually interested.
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@Maksie0 No, it does not. Trans woman is a term used to describe men with issues. Get real
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@mariec3733 Yes, incorrect perceptions and baseless claims. Your opinion is dismissed as less than useless and completely absent any actual virtue, truth or righteousness
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@sodiumso6015 That's why I asked, compared to what. Compared to choosing to engage in the one and only act which actually causes that which they're admittedly trying to avoid-- a TOTALLY avoidable unwanted pregnancy. How smart are these women, who don't wish to risk pregnancy, then choose to engage in the one and only activity which facilitates the risk and is the direct cause of the avoidable scenario?? Just sayin... If guys were the ones who had to risk being pregnant, I guarantee there would be Nearly ZERO unplanned pregnancies. Women have all the power and control to prevent the unwanted pregnancies. They are literally creating their own dilemmas, by making bad decisions-- and are the root cause and gateway of the totally avoidable problem. All of your nonsense, and trolling just to attempt to pretend a woman doesn't have any culpability for their choices to risk pregnancy, as if they had no control to avoid an unwanted pregnancy (Obviously not talking about a rape). What's up with that? I advocate against innocent people's lives being taken, and for women being responsible-- especially regarding risking their body's w/ an unwanted pregnancy, when they're not prepared for the consequences of their actions. I believe that adults should be responsible for themselves. Why don't you?
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@markusbaker1161 I'm saying-- There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women, illustrating that your narrative is a totally bogus faith-based belief with zero evidence to support your claim that trans women are women. Checkmate / You lost
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@markusbaker1161 You're only fooling yourself. You have failed. You've not proven your claim that trans women are women. You've not proven that men can become women. Until you do that-- your narratives are void and bogus, without truth or integrity, and are based on nothing more than a cult belief. I won before I started, because I'm correct and you're not. You lost before you started.
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@Ami-wk2vl It's comedy gold
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@mariec3733 Women that want to avoid an unwanted pregnancy, have the obligation to avoid it, as well as the means, and men aren't culpable if they fail. Those women failed themselves. How have they not? Explain that
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It intellectually bankrupt thinking, on their part
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@mariec3733 Oh ya-- the same way the doctors do in the delivery room. Males have a P, females have a V. It's not complicated at all
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Developmental sex disorders aren't evidence of another sex invalidating the binary of all mammalian species. Gender is not disconnected from biology. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There are people and they are males and females and there are segments of both which present with various birth defects, psych disorders, and some with both-- none of which are evidence of other genders invalidating the binary. It's XX (Female), XY (Male), and a variety of Birth defects/disorders within segments of each ... neither of which display sex organs other than that found in the binary. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@Maksie0 The rate of self-deletion-- even after transition, indicate that the affirmation-based treatment protocols don't help either
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@mariec3733 Your reading comprehension deficit appears to be in play again. Everything written were questions. I challenge your assertion that abortion would reduce more trauma for the victims. Evidence to back your subjective claim= Zero I would counter and say it's merely adding an additional trauma to the equation, as the delivery will take place anyway; One way alive, the other not so much, and the trauma of the rape will remain, along with the trauma of the baby losing it's life.
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@Maksie0 It's intellectually stunted, and unnecessary since most people aren't trans
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@markusbaker1161 Yes you are, and sadly-- you're triggered by it. You're WRONG about science, medicine and the law-- and apparently have difficulty with observing reality and comprehending what you're observing. Science and medicine has established that all mammals are male or female, respectively-- and that status is fixed and permanent. Black’s Law Dictionary defines woman as “an adult female human being.”
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@mariec3733 Yes, you're highlighting the social aspects of being male or female. Those are well-established since the dawn of time, from culture to culture. Those personality traits and temperament are not gender exclusive, and they don't alter the fact of the biology of males and females is fixed and permanent. Your point doesn't get to the root of the issue that trans women are men, and it certainly does not justify the narrative that trans women are women. That's TOTALLY WRONG. A woman is an adult, human, female. Your commentary doesn't withstand even the slightest bit of scrutiny Cope Harder
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@ry5551 I see it as being about women who are delusional enough to believe that they are now men, because they changed their appearance.
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@madalenamarrafa8662 How was anyone oppressed by having a debate? Think Deeper thoughts. You seem triggered enough to cry on the ground.Just sayin-- and you don't even see it. lol
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@Maksie0 Cope Harder... it's *He/His, not her
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@Maksie0 No, they aren't-- they're men with issues, pretending that they're women without issues
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@jibblejabble2249 Truth is not subjective, and friends tell each other the truth. If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? In other words: If a girl, trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (supposedly the reason for transitioning), How can gender be fluid and separate from biology? Answer: It can't
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@hellfire7726 Nope. I refer to myself as, "I". BTW, Mammals do not "Switch" sexes. ALL mammals are male or female and the condition is permanent. You're failing to comprehend that the ideology is inappropriately attempting to recategorize and rename the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence tomboys, effeminate males and butch females) "Gender', and that's just Wrong.
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@hellfire7726 Look, they can have a surgeon transform their appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek-- But it doesn't transform them into an actual Klingon. The same is true for gender surgery. They're mad because we don't see them as they see themselves, and we aren't falling for their disguise, or their incoherent explanations of their ideology... They don't accept themselves, so go through elaborate measures to transform their appearance into something they're not, and expect to be accepted for their disguise, as opposed to being accepted for who and what they really are. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect. That's It
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@hellfire7726 I know you meant XY, not YY-- but that's besides the point. You're mad because we don't see you as you see yourself, and we aren't falling for your disguise, or your incoherent explanations of your ideology... Now, go cry about it. You don't accept yourself, so go through elaborate measures to transform your appearance into something you're not, and expect to be accepted for your disguise, as opposed to being accepted for who and what you really are. That's not even as deep as a baby-spoon, and you act like it's as deep as the ocean and filled with the wisdom of the ages It's XX, XY, Birth Defect. Deal with it
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@Uzzlangified Name the country, at the time of the founding of the USA which didn't have slavery. Your failure to acknowledge that white republican people abolished it here in the west, seems to explain your significant confusion regarding world history.
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@thespacecapybara Competence not gender at the root of that. Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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Ask them to define, what is a woman and watch them squirm and avoid answering, like the plague. They insist that gender is fluid, so ask-- them 'if that's the case, why the need to alter their appearance'.
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The delusional women pretending to be men, and getting upset at not being recognized for their preferred disguise vs who and what they actually are, is what's funny to me
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@nincscsatorna2671 No, it's *he, and by the way he and she are in fact binary. Take your time to process the fact
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Science and medicine has established that all mammals are male or female, respectively-- and that status is fixed and permanent. Black’s Law Dictionary defines woman as “an adult female human being.” They're Men
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@mariec7352 It's a question, not a statement of fact.
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Who he is -- is a dude with issues, pretending to be a woman without issues. The reasons don't change the fact that he's unhinged from reality
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@pm1660 Women (ALL of them) are born female. That unhinged dude wasn't, and isn't any kind of woman.
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@Maksie0 Nobody cares about your preferred pronouns. Cope Harder
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@xXsoullessabominationXx Half the panel were women, talking about redefining personality traits and temperament (Which are not gender exclusive), "Gender"-- and that's just incorrect
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That isn't a very sound refutation. Do Better
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There is only one kind of woman, and as it turns out-- the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. It's not a costume men can put on and take off, and it's not a personality quirk that the activist narratives conflate with gender.
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@noyceofficial No, you made a baseless assertion and provided zero evidence to support your claim
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@noyceofficial Some things change, some things stay the same-- like biology. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect, Mental Illness-- That's it
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The one's who have a problem defining what a woman is, have some work to do
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Not everyone wants an audience or requires the validation from attention
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@c2dajayy "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell She takes for granted affirmative action, with her victimhood mentality. shocker...
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Why did you say "misogynist"? You could have just said masculine.
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Half the panel are females, not "men"
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There are people. People are male or female, and segments of each present with various physical and psych issues-- NONE of which make it possible for a male to become a female. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Quit conflating personality with gender and gender roles as though they're synonymous-- They are not
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@ToTheMaxGaming1 Feel free to revisit a 6th grade basic biology textbook for further clarification on basic biology, reproduction, and fertilization
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@mariec3733 Women are in charge of their body's and their choices and actions which risk pregnancy
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it. A woman isn't a costume, a feeling or a social construct. They conflate gender and personality
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@Maksie0 Nope... Wrong again. Only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females
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They're totally unhinged from reality, in their delusion
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@eveliinahannele No need. You can look it up, so are you aware of a human being which has been pregnant with anything other than a human? I'm not
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@eveliinahannele You tell me-- At 6 weeks the heartbeat -- of what? What specie's gestational cycle is the OP talking about? "Outside the womb" of what? An embryo of what?? A heartbeat of what? Heart muscle of what?? Brain of what?? You're ridiculous
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@saralynn518 Why don't you take a transcript of our discussion to your professor have him answer them, since clearly you're unable or unwilling-- then get back to me. Double major in biology, and you're having this difficult of a time articulating a coherent answer to ANY of my questions. Get a refund
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@saralynn518 I am satisfied that your intellectually stunted argument is now exposed as less than useless and irrelevant. Do Better
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@saralynn518 Your resume is less than useless, if you can't comprehend the replies I've given which expose the incoherence of the argument you're making, and even less so-- failing to articulate ANY answers to my questions which illustrate the idiocy of your argument
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Because they ARE still females/women.
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@TheLegendOfRandy No, I didn't force you to consent to sex before you were able and willing to accept responsibility for the consequences. That is all YOU. You, apparently didn't care enough to plan for, and to take care of your own child. Shame on you
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They're narcissists who have no consideration for anyone but themselves
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🎯 Bullseye
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@quesadilla9957 Speaking of responsibility-- The matter at hand is literally a matter of their own making. How do you save people from themselves and their foolishness? Terminating innocent children doesn't seem to do it. If women offer themselves up to men for sex, they are the catalyst for their own avoidable dilemma. The intellectual gymnastics that SO MANY go through, to avoid responsibly for their own action is stunning. Women know what causes pregnancy, and so-- have no one to blame for their unwanted pregnancy but themselves, when they facilitate the one and only act which causes their avoidable dilemma
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@quesadilla9957 Looks like someone that’s supportive of eugenics, by suggesting that people shouldn’t face any adversity - so your solution is to terminate them? smh. Wow I'm not under the impression that there''s a place for a meeting of the minds between those who value life, and those like you who do not, and categorize it as disposable, in the name of convenience.
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@quesadilla9957 Like I said, I'm not under the impression that there's a place for a meeting of the minds between those who value life, and those like you who do not, and categorize it as disposable, in the name of convenience. The morals and ethics of those who would declare the innocent to be disposable in the name of convenience, are those of narcissists and sociopaths
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@quesadilla9957 Women who wish to avoid pregnancy, can and should, and have no one to blame but themselves, when they facilitate their pregnancy's by engaging in the one and only act which causes their totally avoidable dilemmas. They are the Root cause of their own dilemmas and they are also the solution. Cause and Affect seem to elude many. How is that not foolish and your preferred solution of ab0rti0n-- not devoid of virtue? Failing to use preventative measures, or not using them properly is not the point, though there are literally millions of women who successfully plan their family's and utilize the preventative birth control effectively. What do they know, that those who clearly can't seem to quit getting pregnant with multiple unwanted pregnancy's don't know?. Is it a matter of competence or lack thereof, or a matter character or a lack thereof or Both?
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@quesadilla9957 How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or elevate their character to more than a base animal?
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@quesadilla9957 Then quit your whining about the states that are banning it. You didn't answer my question-- Again. Don't be shy How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or elevate their character to more than a base animal seeking only self gratification?
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@quesadilla9957 The universe isn't going to change the laws of physics and biology because you want to be able to screw around without any natural consequences. It doesn't owe you. How self-entitled are you? rhetorical... You're clearly a narcissist The failure rate of sterilization overall is 1.85% over 10 years. What is the success rate of sterilization? Facts about female sterilization Female sterilization is more than 99% effective at preventing pregnancy-- So you're making a whopper of a mountain, out of a mole hill-- while ignoring the vast majority of cases. None of what you wrote justifies terminating the innocent in the womb. Give it a rest. You should quit while you're behind
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@quesadilla9957 No, they don't save people from the consequences of sex, which is a potential pregnancy. They still have the pregnancy and deliver. The only difference is one delivers a live child and the other-- Not so much. That's the whole point. Terminating innocent human life is wrong, and if you don't think so your opinion on this subject is null and void You've failed to justify terminating the innocent in the womb. Looks like you're not a slick as you'd like others to think you are. You've established nothing and have refuted even less
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@quesadilla9957 How do you propose to elevate people's character to strive to be more than a base animal?
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@quesadilla9957 I appreciate the opportunity to expose you and your hollow, morally repugnant character as an agitator/troll playing the part of a fool-- and fatally flawed narratives for what they are... Virtue Free. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual 'Virtue' in any of your anti-social, intellectually hollow and morally bankrupt whinging.
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@quesadilla9957 Congratulations! You still have no substance, and remain irrelevant
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@quesadilla9957 You've been so thoroughly owned time and time again, that it appears to have triggered you to the point that all you do now is REEeeeeEEEEE ROFLMFAO If you were capable-- you'd do better
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@user-ky1zz2ih7m 99% of cases were not a result of an assault. The victims? Assault victims? The 1% of cases doesn't justify the other 99% of cases. The child isn't less valuable or innocent because one of their parents was bad.
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The matter at hand is literally a matter of their own making. They can choose to give the child up for adoption. How do you save people from themselves and their foolishness? Terminating innocent children doesn't seem to do it. I observe that there are women who've figured out how to plan their family's effectively and utilize their preventative birth control effectively, and contrast them against those who've clearly NOT figured it out, and instead-- keep getting it wrong. By implementing a better strategy and approach, looking back with the regret of shoulda, woulda, coulda re: one's family planning can be mitigated significantly in the positive direction. There is, unfortunately-- no known cure for stooopid Don't tell me that birth control isn't 100% effective, because that seems to only affect one group-- and it isn't the group that values the lives of their children. What do you think they know that eludes the others???
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@mariec7352 Certainly not those who value the life of innocent children. The matter at hand is literally a matter of their own making. How do you save people from themselves and their foolishness? Terminating innocent children doesn't seem to do it. I observe that there are women who've figured out how to plan their family's effectively and utilize their preventative birth control effectively, and contrast them against those who've clearly NOT figured it out, and instead-- keep getting it wrong. By implementing a better strategy and approach, looking back with the regret of shoulda, woulda, coulda re: one's family planning can be mitigated significantly in the positive direction. There is, unfortunately-- no known cure for stooopid Don't tell me that birth control isn't 100% effective, because that seems to only affect one group-- and it isn't the group that values the lives of their c
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@mariec7352 I already answered you 20 hours ago. It appears you are still confused. Shocker The group that apparently can't utilize their birth control and effectively plan their family expansion appropriately, evidenced by stats showing a significant number who have more than 1 ab0rti0n. What don't they know, or do correctly that the other women who do effectively utilize their birth control and plan their family's don't seem to get mixed up???
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@mariec7352 Translation = REEeeeEEEEEEeeeee It's as though the fact that my comments are actually visible, eludes you. There's no cure for stoooopid
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There are males and females.... That's it
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@mariec3733 Yes-- Women choose to have, and do plan to have families-- ALL the time. The less than smart ones-- not so much though
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The 'Lost'
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@Maksie0 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL female-- making the use of 'cis' irrelevant, nonsense
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@Maksie0 There is no alternative. There are males and females... That's it. Trans women are Men with issues, pretending that they're women without issues-- Still men. They're not the standard, against which all others are measured. Get a clue The sound you're hearing is the rejection of your trans-activist ideological narrative. You better learn to cope.
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@sbm9190 It's XX, XY, birth defect/anomaly, or psych illness. That's it...
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@Bambibel It's unadulterated misogyny. Those are men, they will always be men. Their imaginations and subjective personality traits and temperament don't change the fact that those being referred to as 'trans women' aren't trans anything-- They're men
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@mariec3733 Whatever, You're the one who said you thought men could get pregnant
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@conor.3875 The relevant part: A blade of grass doesn't eventually grow into and become a human adult
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@diva-xh7nu Babylon is fallen, is fallen is the inevitable end
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@diva-xh7nu I don't think believing that they're a suitable treatment for those who suffer from ANY kind of delusions is reasonable.
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@diva-xh7nu The ones that the insecure, and ultra-confused apparently suffer. When they are challenged on their beliefs that skirts, dresses, heels, makeup, hormones, surgery and literally the color pink doesn't make them women-- they tend to get unhinged even further. The narrative is inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament, neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys-- with gender
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@mariec7352 I already told you... You've failed to justify terminating the lives of the innocent, and you still have nothing
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@mariec7352 Thank you for verifying that I am correct, by continuing to illustrate that you have no argument which justifies terminating the innocent.
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@mariec7352 Look, None of your arguments justify terminating the innocent-- Not even close You should try being relevant. Women are responsible for avoiding their own unwanted pregnancy's. Pregnancy isn't a punishment. Pregnancy is however, a known consequence and the cause isn't a mystery.
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How's that going to work in situations like stadiums, convention centers, locker rooms, showers, changing rooms and it does nothing to address women being displaced re; scholarships, sports, sports teams, or prisons
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@hiitsme5524 I'm under no delusion that there is a potential for a meeting of the minds, when it comes to philosophical issues about morality, such as issues like these-- which separate those who value life as something bigger than just an opportunity for self-gratification-- from those, who just don't, and view it as disposable. Life is valuable, not disposable, and advocating in favor of terminating children is devoid of virtue, honor, and morality.
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There is however a science perspective on when a woman becomes pregnant. There is no "science perspective" For Pro abortion either, so what's your point??
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@mariec3733 How do they do that without a woman first consenting to risk herself getting pregnant? Answer: They cannot Kick Rocks Troll
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@WaningWaxingMoon Look, they can have a surgeon transform their appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek-- But it doesn't transform them into an actual Klingon. The same is true for gender surgery. They're mad because we don't see them as they see themselves, and we aren't falling for their disguise, or their incoherent explanations of their ideology... They don't accept themselves, so go through elaborate measures to transform their appearance into something they're not, and expect to be accepted for their disguise, as opposed to being accepted for who and what they really are. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect. That's It
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The problem in general, w/ their virtue signaling-- is the total absence of any actual 'virtue' in any of their unhinged whinging
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@whitewhitewhite2446 Leftists-- Not so much, they're just morally bankrupt, elitist tyrants who operate with a rules for thee and not for me default. Their arrogance is staggering
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@BluePineappleCoasters Making the point that gender doesn't affect biology? Illustrating clearly, that they're not men. As it turns out, the prerequisite for being men is being born males.
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@Maksie0 Only in Fantasyland is that dude a 'she'
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Me too... So many act like a birth defect is another gender in the binary, and it isn't
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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If they can't accept themselves for what they are, I refuse to accept them for what they're not. They're not trans anything. Altering your appearance and a costume change doesn't make him a her. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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If gender is disconnected from biology, why the need to transition-- biologically? If a girl, trapped in a boys body-- has an immutable male identity, how is it that gender is fluid? It seems like they're trying to re-name personality traits "Gender" and that's wrong too
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@Tomb-Wraith Believe it or not, millions do in fact choose to make an active attempt at getting pregnant and having children. Risking the behavior which leads to pregnancy IS an active choice and it's no mystery how conception occurs. Now Kick Rocks Fool
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@Tomb-Wraith You're well aware, yet made a comment that is wrong because, why? Forced abstinence? Red Herring argument. Personal Accountability for the consequences of your actions is the nature of adulthood. Pull your head out of your backside My wife and I chose to have a family, so again-- you're not only inarticulate, but you're also wrong. You've stated you're a biologist, and then went on to make an incorrect argument that a fetus is a parasite. I, then schooled you on parasites, proving your assertion to be totally ludicrous. You're an activist troll, and are totally FOS. I recognize that, and called you out for it. You've refuted nothing whatsoever.
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@mariec3733 Well, my wife and I chose to have a family, so Yes-- it definitely is/was a choice.
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@mariec7352 If life isn't valuable, why would or should they?
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@mariec7352 You did, then you affirmed your position when categorizing innocent baby's as disposable, in the name of convenience
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@mariec7352 Is that what the other voice in your head told you, while you were contemplating how to justify terminating the innocent in the womb?? I appreciate the opportunity to expose you and your hollow, morally repugnant character as an agitator/troll playing the part of a fool-- and fatally flawed narratives for what they are... Virtue Free. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual 'Virtue' in any of your anti-social, intellectually hollow and morally bankrupt whinging. Well, my comments are visible, exposing your intellectually vacant analysis, as totally baseless, and exposing you as nothing more than an agitator who's not very persuasive-- failing to make your case or refute anything I've written. You fail 🤕
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No it isn't. Comprehending the truth, where it was previously not known or was previously misunderstood would be indicative of progress.
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@greenghost2008 Well, male and female are biological categories which are fixed/permanent for ALL mammalian species. The ideology's narrative is inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), with gender. Gender deals with an individual's sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male and/or female. A woman is an adult, human female and these trans people are still females, regardless of their surgical alterations-- No different than a nose job really... Still the same sex/gender. They're LARPing, and indulging in cosplay as far as I can tell. If they have a surgeon alter their appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek-- it doesn't actually make them a Klingon either
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@Maksie0 If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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They birth their aborted babies-- after the procedure, anyway
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@eveliinahannele Life's not fair. Men don't get pregnant. Deal with it. What responsibility are you suggesting they have, regarding a woman's "choice" to willingly risk getting pregnant?
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They fail to comprehend that joy is internal, and not found in externalities or via the validation of external sources, and that happiness is fleeting.
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No, you are not
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@krasmasov6852 Wouldn't it be great if every ill in the world was actually treatable? Sadly however; that too is a fantasy that doesn't exist in reality. Affirming and validating the beliefs of those who are suffering from delusions, and pretending that their delusions are based in reality-- is definitely Not how you treat them effectively for obvious reasons
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It's consenting to the risk, and the pregnancy is the manifestation of a new life developing in the womb, and those advocating abortion illustrate how little they value that life. Hope that helps clear it up
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@eveliinahannele Well, that isn't much of a refutation. I don't disagree with my comments, if that's what you mean. Why do you hate innocent children?
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@mariec3733 What risks do men take regarding women getting pregnant? Men aren't the one's who risk their body's getting pregnant, and we are talking about women's unwanted pregnancies-- Not men's unwanted pregnancies
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@mariec3733 I can't be responsible for your limited intellectual capacity or your reading comprehension deficit. Try to focus-- we're talking about women's unwanted pregnancies, and the risks they have to contend with-- Not men's unwanted pregnancies. A man's desire regarding a woman's unwanted pregnancy are irrelevant. He may wish she had his kid, and that doesn't create an obligation on her to facilitate his wish. The power, control, and choice to risk pregnancy is exclusively hers. There's just no getting away from that fact
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@mariec3733 Ya, that didn't answer the question. Your intentionally obtuse misreading not withstanding scrutiny, is why you're dismissed as irrelevant and lacking any truth and credibility.
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@number_one_flop They're attempting to rename and recategorize the variability in personalty traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys)-- Gender, and that's just incorrect. Male and female are fixed and permanent biological categories. You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Wookie or a Klingon-- and that doesn't actually transform you into either, EVEN IF you REeeeeAaaaLLLY believe it does, it does not.
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@darcymr353 If women offer themselves up to men for sex, they are the catalyst for their own avoidable dilemma. The intellectual gymnastics that you're going through to avoid responsibly for your own action is stunning. Women know what causes pregnancy, and have no one to blame for their unwanted pregnancy but themselves, when they facilitate the one and only act which causes their avoidable dilemma
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@mariec3733 It's a question... Sheesh, don't be so triggered. You're confused about the differences between males and females-- so really have no room to talk about comprehending the meaning of words, as if you're some scholar. LOL Kick Rocks Fool
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@mariec3733 Not so much as you're desperately trying to avoid culpability
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@mariec3733 Look, women that want to avoid an unwanted pregnancy, have the obligation to avoid it. Those women also have the means to do so, and appear to be without excuse. Men aren't to blame if women fail to avoid the avoidable. Those women failed themselves. How have they not?
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@leila4509 Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous and they are not.
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It's XX, XY, Birth Defect or evidence that a psych evaluation and treatment commence immediately-- That's It Alone in the shower alone, they know they're a guy Found damaged and unconscious in a wreck, the EMT's know he's a guy Dead on a slab, the Coroner knows he's a guy Archaeologists finding his bones and DNA, Knows he's a guy. He's a guy pretending to be a girl. Don't be a science denier... Just sayin
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@showithere8550 Any stats on the number who were suffering from mental illness?
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@showithere8550 In 2020 the total number was 45,979 out of a total population of 331,002,651 making it a VERY VERY VERY small percentage compared to the 40% of the trans community. There was just a study showing even higher percentage
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@chatbabies5475 The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the absence of any actual virtue. I haven’t been discussing my feelings on the topic
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@Skyehiii If they accepted who they are, they wouldn't have to transition. Get a clue
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@markusbaker1161 No. I responded actually being willing to have a two-way dialogue. You aim to agitate. IF gender is a mere social construct, as you suggest-- and disconnected from biology (I disagree), then transgender is a mere social construct, which in NO WAY justifies granting access to those men into women's private spaces such as dressing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, sports teams or prisons, if it has NOTHING to do with biology. Make it make sense. You got anything? It seems like an incoherent bit of madness for those who advocate such a thing
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@markusbaker1161 Doesn't matter... You're wrong. Science is the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained.
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Uranus?
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The gender pretenders did what they all do and conflate gender with personality traits and temperament
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@MELLO_femmyx It was merely an analogy, and race is WAY more of a spectrum than gender
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@MELLO_femmyx It's like black face for women. They're caricaturing women. Personality traits and temperament are different things than gender, and they're conflating them and acting as though they're synonymous-- and they're just not.
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@mariec7352 I believe that human life is precious and inherently valuable. Why don't you, evidenced by your desire to terminate the lives of the most innocent and vulnerable, as a matter of convenience? I just don't see anything righteous or virtuous in any of your comments.
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@markusbaker1161 I recognize fact from fiction
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@markusbaker1161 Well, that's certainly not a refutation. I discern science from science-fiction and recognize women's rights to privacy
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@markusbaker1161 Again-- Not a refutation. Why do you so casually dismiss women's rights? You do not honor the desires of women
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@yellowtaipan-g3t I'm not going to ignore what I can observe with my own eyes, and promote make believe, or cater to feelings by pretending that the identity of people who identify as something they're not in reality, are somehow valid. They're still men, or women-- respectively Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, parody of female behavior or personality traits.
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@Maksie0 Your absence of integrity, evading answering questions, and no evidence whatsoever of a coherent argument anywhere to be found-- is uncanny. Your agenda is twisted
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@Maksie0 Your narratives are incoherent madness. Your opinion is rejected for being less than useless whinging and your screeching nonsense only highlights your disconnect from reality.
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@McCondom Those delusional women pretending to be men, and getting upset at not being recognized for their preferred disguise vs who and what they actually are, is what's funny to me
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@Maksie0 How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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Cis/trans, as best as I can tell, are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are. Why should all of society be required to participate in the LARP and cosplay as a matter of law, counter to objective reality??? To suggest such a thing seems like the height of arrogance and narcissism
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No one really gives a crap about those ridiculous labels. The problem they have with their virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual virtue in any of their unhinged whinging
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A confused woman who's LARPing
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@Ey3_s0cEt.4.20. An adult, human, female-- and those men aren't
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They're trying to rename personality traits and temperament (which are not gender exclusive-- hence butch females and effeminate males), "Gender", and that's just wrong. To all the feminists who go along to get along w/ this incoherent ideology-- I wish you well in the near dystopian future, where you'll now be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will say they're women too.
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Nope... If you're born female, no amount of transition surgery or hormone treatments will change that. You could have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon, and it doesn't magically turn you into an actual Klingon-- Even IF you REALLY believe it
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@Erik-fn7kj You're afraid to engage honestly and discuss the topic, as are apparently just about everyone else on the pro-trans agenda side of the topic. How is what I wrote inaccurate or incorrect
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Gender: There are 2, Male and female. Gender roles are social constructs-- Not gender, hence trans being a social construct-- making the statement 'trans women are women' absurd and removed from objective reality. They're men
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To the 'My body, my choice' crowd... Your Student Loan, Your Payments
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@mariec7352 The record of your trolling and ignorant interactions is available for those interested to read for themselves, along with all of my replies which you insist aren't there. How come you fail to recognize the autonomy of the child's body-- that the mother created with her choice to engage in the one and only act which causes the unwanted pregnancy?
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@conor.3875 Then, the mother's life doesn't mean very much at all either, so what does it matter if she is inconvenienced, if her life doesn't actually mean very much? That does appear quite the sociopathic character trait, and tendency that you're describing, to suggest that life is so devoid of value, that you deem it disposable in the name of convenience.
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@conor.3875 "Just being a life doesn't actually mean very much" (meaning neither does yours)
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The left often paint with broad brushstrokes when they say all white men are a part of an oppressive patriarchy, at the root of a gender pay gap, while being confused about which restroom is appropriate, while simultaneously insisting that gender is fluid, while simultaneously justifying gender surgery for a girl who thinks she's a boy-- because she's actually a girl trapped in in a boys body-- while insisting that gender is fluid. It's INSANE and totally incoherent.
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@Plaggy77 It seems your statements prove the binary, as the only two possibilities. Am I missing something relevant?
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Dead things don't grow. Think Deeper thoughts ghoul
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@TheLegendOfRandy And the crocodile doesn't grow when it's dead. You go to prison if you poach crocodiles. What's your point?
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Intellectual deficit and moral bankruptcy
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@MoonshineH It is redundant, as there are only males and females. Segments of each present with birth defects and psych issues, neither of which invalidate the binary of all mammalian species
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@MoonshineH No, actually the conversation was about the hypocrisy of those who insist on preferred pronouns, while disrespecting the wishes of those who they expect consideration from. Gender and sex are not disconnected. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. You appear to be inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@MoonshineH Using that logic, calling a 'transwoman' he/him shouldn't offend them for the same reason. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are-- after Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent, and how they feel about it, changes nothing whatsoever in objective reality
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These people are quite literally the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after. They aren't trans ANYTHING
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@Hotrodchef89 I recommend re-reading, only..... s l o w e r (this time), so you don't miss it again, as I've already explained it. Unfortunately, I can't do anything to remedy your reading comprehension deficit. Best of luck with that
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Those delusional women pretending to be men, and getting upset at not being recognized for their preferred disguise vs who and what they actually are, is what's funny to me
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@But...WhyTho The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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Who's in charge of women choosing to consent to risking getting pregnant?
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@clarawilliams6845 You believe men are in charge of women's pregnancy? LOL... If men are in charge over a woman's pregnancy, what are you whinging about? No, women are in charge of whether or not they want to risk their body's becoming pregnant, when they choose to engage in the act which causes it-- by granting men access. When my son was born (He's 32 yo now), I didn't have ANY say about the delivery room, and I was never in the position to control ANYTHING that was going on in the delivery room. What are you talking about?
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@conor.3875 You appear to have difficulty with logic, cause and effect and the order of operations, and unfortunately, I can't help you with that. At no time, did I risk 'my' body becoming pregnant, with an avoidable and stated unwanted pregnancy.
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@conor.3875 It's pretty much been the central focal point I've been making. Women are in charge of choosing to risk 'Themselves' getting pregnant, and actually achieving the avoidable-- or avoiding it.
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Quit conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament, (Neither of which is gender exclusive) w/ gender.
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100% Correct 🎯
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@Maksie0 Stop projecting. No confusion here, troll. Science and medicine has established that all mammals are male or female, respectively-- and that status is fixed and permanent. Black’s Law Dictionary defines woman as “an adult female human being.” Changing what they call these men doesn't alter reality WTF is confusing you and your perception of reality?
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@kabean09 Some hairy dude in a dress screaming, "It's MA'AM"-- while insisting that they're a woman doesn't make it so. Similarly, having a plastic surgeon change your appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek, doesn't actually make you a Klingon. Same is true regarding gender transition surgery. Still, XX or XY It's She
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@beyoncesdaughter9128 Not much of a refutation. You really need to be better
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Intersex is a deviation of both sexes, not its own seperate sex. Sex is determined by gamete production, there is only egg and sperm in mammals/humans. This is why you turn up to biology class instead of art class lmao
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@faithmelton5874 Where did I accuse you of saying that? Calm down... The ideological narrative inappropriately includes the argument that it's a 3rd gender, and you know it. Now you know why it's inappropriate. You're Welcome
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Women attempt it more... Crazier, less competent, or Both?
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My issue is discerning reality vs their subjective, delusional self-identity which mocks it-- by suggesting we need to affirm their self-perceived identities. The answer is No... Just No They aren't 'trans' anything whatsoever. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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@Shades781 The delusional women pretending to be men, and getting upset at not being recognized for their preferred disguise vs who and what they actually are, is what's funny to me
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They're not "trans" anything. Still Human, Still Male or Female as they were when they were born, respectively -- just what amounts to an elaborate disguise in the gender binary
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@EvaLoVerde That's not much of a refutation. Men cannot become women and vice versa. Cope harder
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@EvaLoVerde Not denying anyone's existence. Just acknowledging that they are not that which they claim to be
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@EvaLoVerde Nothing phobic about recognizing that someone isn't that which the claim to be. It just makes me observant Your arguments simply do not withstand scrutiny
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@EvaLoVerde That's not a refutation of my very 1st comment or my last either. Men cannot become women, and vice versa. Look, It's XX, XY, Birth Defect, Psych Disorder. That's it! Cope harder Which words don't I understand? You should quit while you're behind
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@EvaLoVerde What words? C'mon? 🦗🦗🦗🦗 Quit your whining
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There's No fear from conservatives in recognizing that you're not that which you claim to be. it just makes them observant
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@EvaLoVerde My kid is in his mid-30's junior. You're clueless
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@Maksie0 The truth matters
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@tonjasinclair3743 Ya, that's a birth defect, not another gender
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@pheonixxxrose My issue is discerning reality vs their subjective, delusional self-identity which mocks it
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You think whites created masculinity?? There are tribes in Africa where they're not confused about the differences between males and females and the roles they play in society. Think deeper thoughts
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@Erik-fn7kj How? Sources for your evidence please
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N I C E L Y pointed out, and 100% correct
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@ramsyangel5563 In all fairness though, it's because he is still a male.
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The ENTIRE trans-activist ideological narrative is incoherent madness. Trans women are MEN with issues-- pretending that they're women without issues
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@Maksie0 You think there's a lot of trans people who are conservative do you?
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@markusbaker1161 None of them are women either. Get a clue
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@markusbaker1161 Don't care about their psych issues. They're biological men
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, you said it wasn't about chromosomes and biology, so they're just men presenting as women-- the reasons are irrelevant. What's the confusion, on your end?
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@markusbaker1161 Hence-- transgender being a social construct, which doesn't alter biological sex at all. Gender refers to the sex observed/assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. The social aspects of male and female roles are well established. Gender and Gender Roles aren't the same thing.
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An ectopic pregnancy occurs when a fertilized egg is implanted somewhere outside of the uterus. Most ectopic pregnancies occur in the fallopian tubes and are called tubal pregnancies. Untreated ectopic pregnancies can be fatal for the mother. An ultrasound can help to rule out an ectopic pregnancy, by verifying the pregnancy is in the uterus. This is a key piece of information. Like in a miscarriage, the fetus doesn’t survive, so a decision about your pregnancy plan would no longer be necessary. While not as common as a miscarriage, ectopic pregnancies still occur in about 1 in 50 pregnancies (2%) Hope that helps clear it up for you
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@eveliinahannele Stop being such a drama queen. Having a conversation on a comment board is not trampling on anyone's anything. The difference is that in an Ectopic pregnancy, the fetus's are non-viable, not dis-similar to a miscarriage. It's not like you couldn't google that, and avoid embarrassing yourself again-- but here we are. Do you feel better now?
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@TheLegendOfRandy You said, "You know what other pregnancies are non-viable? Every single pregnancy prior to 24 weeks of gestation." Think deeper thoughts. A single digit IQ isn't something you ought to be trying to tout as admirable, or as some sort of achievement. If that were correct, the human race would have faded away thousands of years ago. Clearly you're Wrong, as those pregnancy's which are only 24 weeks into the gestation cycle tend to continue to develop, until the end of the gestation cycle and are birthed into the world. BTW, Nov 11, 2021On November 10, Guinness World Records announced that an Alabama baby had become the "world's most premature baby" to survive.Curtis Means was born at the University of Alabama at Birmingham Hospital on July 5, 2020, at just 21 weeks and one day gestation, the university said. He weighed just 420 grams (14.8 ounces) at birth, according to Guinness World Records Sigh...
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@mariec7352 If you don't understand what I wrote, I don't know what to tell you. Your failure to comprehend, changes nothing-- and isn't an argument which justifies terminating the innocent. Your failure to recognize that pregnancy's which are only 24 weeks into the gestation cycle of the baby's life, tend to continue to develop until the end of the gestation cycle-- and at that time, a new baby is birthed into the world-- seems to be at the root of your confusion. Take some time to ponder that.
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@mariec7352 The 1st sentence of your comment where you said, "What are you even talking about, by the way...? "-- was the 1st indicator that you didn't understand. Your clearly scrambled comprehension, evidenced by the rest of your statements where you fail to discern the difference between avoiding an unwanted pregnancy, and avoiding sex is another indicator. You assert I deny facts, and refute nothing-- Again. You still need to do much better The fact is, terminating the innocent is not justifiable, and you still have no argument to the contrary I don't care about your opinions, or your irrational attempts at justifying the unjustifiable. No one is forcing people to risk unwanted pregnancy. Other than a rape scenario, which is 1% of cases-- Women are the ones who need to exercise control over their body's to prevent their own unwanted pregnancies, in the other 99% of cases.
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@mariec7352 You seem to be oblivious to the fact that prior to the 24 week mark, a living, developing, human life is not done developing. Discussing it's viability at that stage of normal human development, couldn't be Less relevant.
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@mariec7352 Your demonstration, proving a reading comprehension deficit, and a difficulty with logic-- as you fail to recognize and follow along with context was not necessary-- As you've already established that you have no argument which justifies the termination of the innocent. You should try being relevant
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@mariec7352 My response is simple. You've failed to make the case that terminating the innocent is justifiable, and you haven't. You said you don't value life. Your opinion on the subject is forfeit, null and void. You can snivel about minutia and false narratives all you like, and you can dip, dodge, duck, dive and dodge, but it doesn't make your case, nor invalidate mine.
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@Maksie0 No, they aren't trans anything. They're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance- as they are after, not unlike a drag queen.
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If They don't have a problem with their relationship, then who are you to judge it?
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@krasmasov6852 Refute it if you dare
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Factor in-- that there are those who exercise self-control, vs wearing their emotions on their sleeves for all to see, at all times. And Men and women need each other for the human race to perpetuate itself. It's so obvious, which is why it's tragically sad that you fail to recognize that fact. To all the feminists who go along to get along w/ this incoherent ideology-- I wish you well in the near dystopian future, where you'll now be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will say they're women too.
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@krasmasov6852 Your opinions couldn't possibly be less interesting or important
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@marsdavidson8307 Another one what?
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@Maksie0 How does this still confuse you? It doesn't... You're an activist troll, agent provocateur. This has been explained to you several times. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the use of cis irrelevant and useless.
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The variability of personality traits and temperament (neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), are inappropriately being conflated with gender
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Their concern seems to be focused on the innocent baby, while the pro-abortion side seems to only focus on themselves
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@mariec3733 The pro-choice side addresses the baby's lives by opting to end them
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@Alexa-cs6sv Total ignorance smh
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@justapotato2434 Drink water, juice, have a milk shake, have a Diet Coke, have a Virgin Daiquiri or something similar??
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@mariec7352 Still not a justification for terminating the lives of the innocent
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@Nathancant1953 Blossoms colorful imagination and altering his appearance doesn't make him a woman
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@Nathancant1953 Sorry cupcake, there's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Quit conflating personality with gender.
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You don't want to risk a pregnancy? Alright, then don't. Women who "choose" to facilitate the risk of their unwanted pregnancy by again-- "Choosing" to engage in the one and only act which causes it, have no one to blame but themselves. I expect that people who aren't prepared to risk pregnancy and deal with the consequences avoid them, and for someone with some integrity to inform them that the world doesn't owe them a life free from adversity. Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can "choose" to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, don't?
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@marissamate I never suggested that they did. The 1% of cases where it's an assault and not their choice at fault, doesn't invalidate what I wrote in the least. Try again? You still haven't answered the question. What do you think the women who have figured out how to plan their pregnancy's successfully know, that eludes so many who clearly don't handle their family planning effectively or utilize their preventative birth control effectively?
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@TheLegendOfRandy No, I merely observe that there are women who've figured out how to plan their family's effectively and utilize their preventative birth control effectively, and contrast them against those who've clearly not figured it out and keep getting it wrong. Don't tell me that birth control isn't 100% effective, because that seems to only affect one group-- and it isn't the group that values the lives of their children. What do you think they know that eludes the others??? You keep running away from answering that question, like a coward without a clue
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@marissamate It is childish to play games, like you are-- but it isn't merely childish, it's disingenuous and illustrates a level of intellectually bankruptcy that's unbecoming of a teacher w/ a 'Masters degree' 🖕
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@Maksie0 Too many horror stories from those who are de-transitioning, which thoroughly disagree with your assessment and claim and seemingly debunk your claim as rubbish. Thoughts?
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@Maksie0 No, they're not. What are you slow or something?
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@markusbaker1161 Never said it was. Guys presenting as 'other than guys' exist. Women presenting as 'other than women' exist too. They're still guys, or women, respectively though...
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@Maksie0 That's okay... Now you know better
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@markusbaker1161 Okay... That's your opinion, not anything proving me incorrect-- But Thanks for playing
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@markusbaker1161 They're biological men.
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We're suppose to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe? Why??
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@Maksie0 Your absence of integrity, evading answering questions, and no evidence whatsoever of a coherent argument anywhere to be found-- is uncanny, Blossom. Your agenda is twisted
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I hope they do a part 2 and host in from a roof top in Saudi Arabia. That will sell HUGE pay per view numbers
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@Maksie0 Gender and sex aren't disconnected. Gender is NOT a social construct. Gender roles are the social constructs and they're well-established, which is why the counter-culture trans-narrative is itself the real construct and you seem unable to process that distinction. Your inability to process the truth of it, doesn't invalidate the truth. We're not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe, or cater to feelings. NO! Just... No They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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@krasmasov6852 No... A woman is an adult, female, human. You're inappropriately conflating personality traits and the variance in temperament of people-- which aren't gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys, with gender. If you identify as a Klingon from Star Trek, it doesn't make it so. Just sayin...
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@mariec3733 I said no such thing. They're obligated to avoid pregnancy-- if they wish to avoid it. Those aren't the same thing. Your cognitive dissonance is working overtime
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@mariec7352 That's wrong. After having explained to you several times, your cognitive dissonance is clear. You're dismissed
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@mariec7352 I've said, you're dismissed too. You're exposed as nothing more than a troll, and an agitator. You are arguing in favor of a virtue free solution, for which there is no justification. You've failed to make your case that what you advocate in favor of-- is justified
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EXACTLY correct
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@mariec3733 No... Ghouls like You-- have No moral compass
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Gender and sex aren't disconnected. Gender is not a social construct. Gender roles are a social construct, and too many are seemingly unable to process that distinction. We're suppose to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe? Why?? They're misgendering themselves. They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior traits. I mean... C'mon now. It's ludicrous.
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Well, you Can... Just don't expect contextually relevant answers.
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@TheLegendOfRandy In the case of a woman's unwanted pregnancy in 99% of cases (not including rape), as it relates to your analogy-- The woman is the drunk driver in your story, consenting to driving drunk/risking her own crash/unwanted pregnancy by her own actions, without a care in the world about the consequences to herself or anyone else, and her baby is the one who get's t-boned, as she crashes her car driving drunk. Not ok...
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@TheLegendOfRandy I already explained to you that the drunk driver, consenting to drive drunk is the root cause the accident in your analogy. Your analogy is irrelevant. Obviously, a woman who wishes to avoid an avoidable and unwanted pregnancy isn't compelled to choose to drink and drive / or mess around, and risk herself conceiving-- by facilitating her supposedly unwelcome dilemma. Not smart You didn't ever think driving was a risk free endeavor, did you? Well, if you choose to drink and drive it's even more likely you'll crash
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Why the need to expose children to hyper-s3xu@l adult activities like pride parades and the like? F'n gr00mers gfy
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Still XX, XY... That's it
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@TheLegendOfRandy Individual women knowingly, choose to risk pregnancy when consenting to engage in the one and only biological act which causes it. Look, None of your arguments justify terminating the innocent-- Not even close You should try being relevant. Women are responsible for avoiding their own unwanted pregnancy's. Pregnancy isn't a punishment. Pregnancy is however, a known consequence and the cause isn't a mystery. They Know it-- So, now you know too, and you also now know how your obtuse misunderstanding misses the mark.
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They'd be the ONLY ones, and they'd be surrounded by liars.
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@mariec7352 You've already stated that you don't think life is valuable, so your opinions on the topic are null and void
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@frijolespepepapa9464 If that was supposed to be a yes, then-- No, I don't have an irrational fear of people who are pretending to be something they're not. If gender is disconnected from biology, why the need to transition-- biologically? If a girl, trapped in a boys body-- has an immutable male identity, how is it that gender is fluid? It seems like they're trying to re-name personality traits "Gender" and that's wrong too
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@dundundun430 phobia (ˈfəʊbɪə) n (Psychiatry) psychiatry an abnormal intense and irrational fear of a given situation, organism, or object. Also called: phobism
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It doesn't make sense to use pronouns when speaking to your friend. Speaking about them to another is when the pronoun use would come in, would it not?
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@thecolorblue1635 It's XX, XY, Birth Defect, or people embracing their own perversions... That's it. Men cannot become women, and vice versa. You can neuter a dog, and dress him up in a dress, and it's still a male dog. Clear Enough?
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@TheLegendOfRandy WTF?? No, clearly it's she-- who does not actually care about the well-being of your future child-- as she is willing to sacrifice it in the name of indulging promiscuity. Nice try though
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@mariec3733 Says the person who advocates in favor of ending their lives. Go Away
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@mariec7352 That's absurd, and your tu quoque, mudslinging and attempts to spin a false narrative to into a strawman argument are totally without any basis or merit. You said life is not valuable, and in response I told you that your opinion on the matter-- is therefore null and void. You're still failing to justify terminating the innocent, choosing instead to remain irrelevant. Shocker... /S
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@deadpandeer2615 That's demonstrably wrong. A woman is an adult, female, human. Some hairy dude in a dress screaming, "It's MA'AM" doesn't make him a woman. Get Real
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I just have to laugh at your confused, indoctrination. You dudes, look and sound ridiculous. There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions. Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are
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Because they created the totally avoidable situation by their own actions. Please never procreate. Get a vasectomy
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Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable... That's why sovereign nations have borders. Acceptance is reserved for that which is acceptable, just as respect is earned and is reserved for that which is respectable. "Tolerance will reach such a level, that intelligent people will be banned from thinking, so as not to offend the imbeciles"-- Dostoievski
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Looks more like James Brown
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@babs_babs In other news trans, lgbtq/trans-activist, and BLM activist sh00ts 9 and killz 5. Boy were you wrong
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Cope Harder
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Yeah this whole trans thing is about making weirdos with first world problems, feel special. Like they're confused beyond belief with no concept of gender or reality, yet they have all these special titles and pronouns that everyone else has to comply with, or else. Or else what? Exactly.
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@Maksie0 I repeat what bears repeating. Still, you've refuted nothing whatsoever. Your comments amount to nothing more than a 'Look at me' cry for attention.
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@geekmongerer Look, it's XX, XY, Birth Defect/Anomaly... That's it They're attempting to rename and recategorize the variability in personality traits, and temperament (Neither of which, are gender exclusive-- Hence tomboys, effeminate males, and butch females) "Gender", and that's just wrong. Gender Dysphoria is an extremely rare condition, and there are those who argue that most "Trans" people are merely unapologetically, embracing their particular perversions but are being inappropriately grouped together under the 'Gender Dysphoria' umbrella. Their intolerance for themselves, and those who recognize them for what they are, as opposed to what they wish they were, or how they wish they would be perceived, is a THEM-- problem, that they're trying to make into a 'Me'/'US' (The vast majority of the human population's) problem, and the answer to that is-- No
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I just wanted to point out that you were not born a woman. You were born a female. You had to develop into a woman, being that a woman is an adult, human, female. ;)
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@markusbaker1161 It means something that isn't true, or founded in reality-- Got it
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@markusbaker1161 Not in ANY reality. The subjective feelings of someone w/ psych issues, doesn't change their biology, and those who claim trans-women are women-- are just absurdly wrong.
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@markusbaker1161 Men w/ psych issues pretending to be that which they can never be (Women) do exist. They're still men
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The matter at hand is literally a matter of their own making. They can choose to give the child up for adoption. How do you save people from themselves and their foolishness? Terminating innocent children doesn't seem to do it There are literally millions of women who successfully plan their family's, and effectively utilize their preventative birth control. What do you think they know that eludes so many who obviously don't?
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@TheLegendOfRandy I agree-- You have no clue. The question pending is: Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can "choose" to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, don't?
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Women are adult, human females-- not a social construct. Trans is the social construct. Wake up people
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@mariec3733 Women are not a social construct. When you and others who say trans women are women... That is exactly the implication, and it is absent logic and reason. I don't accept that gender and sex are disconnected. That being said, even if presuming it was true-- explain the logic of granting access to biological men who consider themselves as 'other than men' to women's private spaces.
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@mariec3733 Why then, should those biological men be granted access to women's private spaces?
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@cptncrsh2400 We know that you described your reaction as "triggered", and it's because you are in fact being judgmental.
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Nonsense. They're arguing that he isn't that which he claims to be. That's just being observant of objective reality. Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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Self-control, and stoicism are concepts which seem to elude many in this comment section
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They don't respect themselves.
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@nathanmccoy9188 Not much of a refutation
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Along with weak parents who substantiate this madness
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@Alex-hr1bn Why do you think laws exist?
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@mariec3733 You're the one who's triggered. Maybe it's time that You should revisit those links you have on hand
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@bettyhe601 Well considering the continuing decline in the birth rate, almost to the tipping point-- further reducing the birth rate seems rather counter-intuitive
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There are people, and they are male or female. They both have segments which present w/ birth defects and others with various psych disorders, some w/ both. They aren't trans ANYTHING. They're the same sex/gender prior to surgery altering their appearance and chemistry, as they are after. All they're doing is altering their appearance.
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@chiefinasmith Those chics are nuts. The delusional women pretending to be men, and getting upset at not being recognized for their preferred disguise vs who and what they actually are, is what's funny to me
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@chiefinasmith They aren't living in a vacuum, and the truth matters. I don't care if they want to dress like a Klingon from Star Trek but it doesn't actually make them Klingon even if they really believe it does
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@chiefinasmith Again, the truth matters, and I have female relatives. Whoa to the feminists who go along to get along with this incoherent ideology, as in the near dystopian future, where they'll be oppressed by men who will claim they're women.
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@Stealphie What more is there, that needs to be added? I said, I have female relatives and the truth matters.
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@becky14 Reminder, a phobia is an irrational fear of something. There's nothing phobic about recognizing that you aren't that which you claim to be... That just makes one observant
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@becky14 Are you aware that your comments are being shadow banned? Try logging out and revisit the comment section while logged out, and see what's actually visible to everyone else. That, or you're commenting then immediately deleting your own comments. Either way-- best of luck w/ that cognitive dissonance and that massive reading comprehension deficit
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@marcelacastillo3259 Nonsense... men cannot become women and women cannot become men. The state of male and female are permanent, and no amount of surgery to alter one's appearance changes that.
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I observe that there are women who've figured out how to plan their family's effectively and utilize their preventative birth control effectively, and contrast them against those who've clearly NOT figured it out, and instead-- keep getting it wrong. Don't tell me that birth control isn't 100% effective, because that seems to only affect one group-- and it isn't the group that values the lives of their children. What do you think they know that eludes the others???
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Well, being that r@pe and incest only account for 1% of cases, some perspective is required to address the talking point. On that issue, I would point out that terminating that pregnancy doesn't undo the trauma caused by an attacker. I would also point out that terminating the life of an innocent child doesn't put aside a woman's trauma; It adds to it, an additional victim and the additional potential trauma of the ab0rti0n, experienced by women in significant numbers. Also, the value of the innocent resulting child in the womb, isn't diminished because one or both of their parents were bad. I'm under no delusion that there is a potential for a meeting of the minds, when it comes to philosophical issues about morality, such as issues like these-- which separate those who value life as something bigger than just an opportunity for self-gratification-- from those, who just don't. Women are not forced to have unprotected sex, so if you want to chase pleasure, you have to bear responsibility for the possible outcomes. No innocent life should face termination because of the lack of responsibility among adults. The 'Pro'-choice you're in favor of maintaining-- is the ability to terminate the child in the womb, in the name of convenience and it's shameful. The morals and ethics of those who would declare the unborn to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are questionable-- at Best, and are those of narcissists and sociopaths.
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@varyolla435 You have exactly ZERO evidence to support your narrative.
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@Maksie0 How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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Who's arguments do you think they would be making but their own?
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@markusbaker1161 Science and medicine has established that all mammals are male or female, respectively-- and that status is fixed and permanent. Black’s Law Dictionary defines woman as “an adult female human being.” Your confusion is clear
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No, it's because of competence and merit
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@darcymr353 There is no virtue, no honor, no dignity, and nothing righteous in advocating in favor of the death sentence for the innocent
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Psych malfunctions galore. They're not trans anything.
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@mariec3733 What risks do men take regarding women getting pregnant? Men aren't the one's who risk their body's getting pregnant, and we are talking about women's unwanted pregnancies-- Not men's unwanted pregnancies. Think Deeper thoughts dude
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@mariec3733 I can't be responsible for your limited intellectual capacity or your reading comprehension deficit. Try to focus-- we're talking about women's unwanted pregnancies, and the risks they have to contend with-- Not men's unwanted pregnancies. A man's desire regarding a woman's unwanted pregnancy are irrelevant. He may wish she had his kid, and that doesn't create an obligation on her to facilitate his wish. The power, control, and choice to risk pregnancy is exclusively hers. There's just no getting away from that fact
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I know that men can't get pregnant. DUH... My point about women and their stated unwanted pregnancies is that they have all the means to avoid them. If they facilitate the situation which causes that with they want to avoid-- the culpability is all theirs. It's really not complicated at all. They're responsible for their actions
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@mariec3733 I can't be responsible for your limited intellectual capacity or your reading comprehension deficit. Try to focus-- we're talking about women's unwanted pregnancies, and the risks they have to contend with-- Not men's unwanted pregnancies. A man's desire regarding a woman's unwanted pregnancy is totally irrelevant. He may wish she had his kid, and that doesn't create an obligation on her to facilitate his wish. The power, control, and choice to risk pregnancy is exclusively hers. There's just no getting away from that fact
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@empresscrafts689 Like I said, Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. All they're doing is altering their appearance and body chemistry. Identities which conflict with biology, are those of people w/ various psych issues who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition. Affirming that individual's dissociative state as valid isn't justified, nor helpful-- evidenced by the stats showing that they have a self-termination rate nearly 10x's higher than the accounted for norm, even after they alter their appearance. They're not 'Trans' ANYTHING whatsoever. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are-- after. The societal and cultural aspects that you're referring to, are those of personality traits and temperament (which aren't gender exclusive-- hence butch females, effeminate males, and tomboys). No, for those reasons the incoherent activist ideology and narratives don't pass scrutiny.
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They're psych cases who also happen to be self-centered, narcissists who care only about themselves
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@conor.3875 Then justify granting them access to women's private spaces
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@celestejacobs7386 Still human. Still a stage of human development. Still not ok to terminate the innocent because you can't be bothered to figure out how to take appropriate precautions, if/when you risk facilitating your own avoidable dilemma
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@OptimisticCynic45 A woman is an adult, human, female-- and those LARPing men are not that. They insist that gender is fluid, yet-- insist on the need to alter their appearance, anyway. That's odd They're not trans ANYTHING-- They're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance-- as they are after. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. Gender addresses the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent
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@OptimisticCynic45 You cared enough to make a comment, because you don't care? You seem conflicted
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@mjchronicles1438 Nah... Respect is Earned, and is reserved for that which is actually respectable-- or it'd be meaningless
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No, those are people born with a birth defect, not another gender.
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@ameliamegow7068 There are a lot of women who do not support men dressed up like women, being allowed to enter their sports, locker rooms, dressing rooms or those of their daughters, nieces, mothers, aunts, and grandmothers, and then there are those women in prison who don't wish to be locked up with men in their quarters. Hope that clarifies it a bit for you
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@Maksie0 Seems as though there are more comments which disagree with you than agree. They are men disguised as women
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@-aj-5396 That falls under the birth defect category, I already mentioned. The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule-- they prove it, by being the exceptions. Glad to clarify that for you. Like I said, it's not that complicated
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@mariec3733 They sure are, and they get to live with the consequences, and their base desires don't justify them being able to terminate the lives that they created
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@urmomspussyhair The problem w/ your virtue signaling, is the total lack of any actual virtue. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. *He
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They aren't 'trans' anything whatsoever. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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@AdrianP225 Yes, I believe that is the 'Technical' term
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@livery955 Yelling in caps? Wrong guy... I did no such thing. Refute her claim? She's provided zero evidence to support her claim about ALL men while failing to recognize those who transition are claiming to be men. It's incoherent nonsense. Is either one of you going to answer my questions? crickets...
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The arguments of those with mental disorders are stunted for a reason
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@urmomspussyhair You really didn't have to go out of your way to prove the point.
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@mariec7352 I don't care about your irrational attempts at justifying the unjustifiable. No one is forcing people to risk unwanted pregnancy. Other than a rape scenario, which is 1% of cases-- Women are the ones who need to exercise control over their body's to prevent their own unwanted pregnancies, in the other 99% of cases.
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Trans rights are human rights, are they not?
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@amandabynes5993 Trying to normalize mental illness is horrible
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Abortion is the #1 killer of Blacks in America. That seems to affect them more
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If it's a rapist you're talking about, does the answer become more obvious to you?
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@sodiumso6015 Choosing to ignore that which refutes your narrative, is cherry picking on your part, aka willful blindness-- and YOU know it. Nonetheless, wage mobility exists. Look it up. Just because you're born poor, doesn't mean you'll stay poor.
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@sodiumso6015 Reality is, the poor will always be among us, and those who look for problems will find them. Those who look for solutions are more likely to find them, than those who wrap themselves in nihilism
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@mariec3733 Quite an active imagination you have, but then again-- You think men can become women and vice versa
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Any Evidence that your suggested solution has ever worked, anywhere??? 🦗🦗🦗
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@evelyntran4390 Translation: No, you don't have any evidence. The solution is entirely up to a woman's discretion-- as only she can consent to risk herself getting pregnant, and so the onus to prevent the avoidable is on her, is it not?
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@eveliinahannele There is no absence of abortions in Scandinavia, or Europe, and if the solution worked, there would be
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@eveliinahannele Define flexible abortion laws. They are more stringent than in the USA
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@mariec3733 Trans is the fringe-- women aren't the opposite of trans, they're the standard which trans women are trying to emulate-- making the cis distinction entirely irrelevant and redundant
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The biggest difference is that half the panel are women, not men. THAT's the Major difference between the 2 groups
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@freedommatters7677 Defend themselves from life-threatening pregnancies? Look, you don't have to indulge in the behavior which results in getting pregnant. Be responsible for a change
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@maximeminassian6002 It's actually irrelevant, since all women are born female
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@maximeminassian6002 It's a term used in chemistry used to describe the position of certain molecules to others, and has nothing whatsoever to do with gender. You seem to be motivated to push an incoherent, cult agenda, and narrative-- acting as an agent provocateur, incapable of discerning the fact that all women are born female, that all men are born male, and that there are exactly zero exceptions. Best of luck with that Cope Harder, and seethe if you must
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Pro gun argument
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@mariec3733 That wasn't the point. Laws don't prevent criminals from committing crimes-- was the point
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@mariec7352 You said, "Yaknow, if you advocated for more responsibility for men, there would be less ab0rtions?" Is your theory based on the notion that suddenly rapists will suddenly go, "Oh I get it now", and change their evil ways? Get Real Other than a rape scenario, which is 1% of cases-- Women are the ones who need to exercise control over their body's to prevent their own unwanted pregnancies, in the other 99% of cases.
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@mariec7352 It does, however; get to the point-- and those reading, who have a sufficient handle on reading comprehension will 'Get it'. I have no reason to believe you'll get it now, after having it explained too many times, as it is. Best of luck w/ that
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@mariec7352 You've failed to make an argument that justifies terminating the innocent.
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Sure they were. They were just considered perverts, and effeminate
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They're merely caricatures of that which they wish they were, and will never be. It looks like they still haven't figured out that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender yet. They also haven't figured out that gender isn't disconnected from sex, rather is intrinsically linked
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No. A parent's job is to guide their kids to adulthood to be able to engage in society and the Lord of the Flies approach doesn't get it done
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They're inappropriately conflating the variability in temperament and personality traits (none of which are gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), as synonymous with gender and they are not.
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@UCyYuoymSMEckivdgMzxloFA LOL Not a surprise... You're the one who felt the need to make a comment which amounts to nothing more than a triggered, 'look-at-me' cry for attention that isn't even as deep as a baby-spoon. Get Real
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@eveliinahannele A fetus is not a parasite, by definition.
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@TheLegendOfRandy I get the point you're trying to make, it's just wrong. FWIW, a non-viable fetus is dead. I'm not, avoiding commenting... Apparently I've been censored, when my argument challenges the nonsense with truth, and the facts which crush the narrative. Cowardly, I agree-- but not unexpected in this echo chamber of misinformation and disinformation and activist ghouls
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No what is observed by the physician is then assigned by the physician-- on the certificate of live birth
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@markusbaker1161 the truth
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@natedenbleyker1545 The doctor is the agent of the state, which assigns the observed status with their signature, on the certificate of live birth
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@markusbaker1161 No, it isn't. He said you're "not assigned male or female", and that is incorrect
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@mariec3733 By default, if abortion is banned, there will be less procedures done, by those who provide them-- hence less occurrences. It's not complicated at all. Those who resort to performing procedures on themselves are not representative of the majority of cases (Feel free to cite your evidence to the contrary... I submit that you have NONE)-- and so, the net amount of abortions performed will be less. 😁😉
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Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. The thing is, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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That condition of being male is fixed and permanent. They're merely caricatures of what they wish they were-- and can never be
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@mariec3733 How come you fail to recognize the autonomy of the child's body-- that the mother created with her choice to engage in the one and only act which causes the unwanted pregnancy?
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Wait... They said gender is fluid and disconnected from biology, so how then, is there male privilege? It's incoherent
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@brownbrownbrown2938 "Tolerance will reach such a level, that intelligent people will be banned from thinking, so as not to offend the imbeciles"-- Dostoievski
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If you don't-- get a DNA test, you probably credited the wrong guy with paternity
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@ILovePink-x1v Don't pretend that the consequences of risking pregnancy are unknown. Ghoul
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They can't even define woman. How educated is that?
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@thecolorblue1635 Weak. The problem you have with your virtue signaling, is the absence of any actual virtue and relevance. You've established nothing and have refuted even less
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@markusbaker1161 Are you??? Do you think you need to be a veterinarian to be able to discern the difference between a dog and a cat? You don't need to be a doctor to recognize the difference between a male and a female, when you see one. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Too bad you can't ban ignorance and mental illness Do you think gay, lesbian and bisexual people have to be doctors to recognize the differences between males and females? Get Real! Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 Not upset in the least. I notice you haven't refuted anything, or answered anything. I recommend being relevant, in the future
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@markusbaker1161 No worries. I wasn't trying to persuade you. I figured you weren't even as deep as a baby spoon, but gave you the benefit of the doubt to rise to the occasion, only to discover that I was correct with my initial assessment.
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@markusbaker1161 It looks like you/they still haven't figured out that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender yet. You and those wanting others to use your/their preferred pronouns and all, it's on you to persuade, and so far-- you've failed to make a case
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@markusbaker1161 Look at you-- trying to be edgy, while making substance-free comments; It's HILARIOUS. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual virtue. Do Better
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@markusbaker1161 It's been fun exposing you as a troll, who's depth is dwarfed by a baby spoon
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@markusbaker1161 Again-- I suggest being relevant. You started by stating, "It’s strange that some people think there’s an agenda that’s out to get their kids indoctrinated "; As if you're unaware of the news stories, and video clips all over the internet of those with that very agenda, admitting it. You seem to prefer to argue for sport, than to have a substantive dialogue-- evidenced by your interactions so far. Again, just an observation... You're Dismissed for lack of substance and relevance. Carry On
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@markusbaker1161 You sure do comment a lot and say nothing of substance. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Enjoy your snow globe echo chamber
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@markusbaker1161 The fact that I recognize that they are factually not that which they claim isn't a matter of disliking what's different-- It merely a matter of being observant of objective reality. Is saying, "Whatever you’re going on about isn’t relevant because it’s your personal opinion" what you recommend as a reply for those insisting on their preferred pronouns too?
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@eveliinahannele Birth control is a means for preventing you from getting pregnant. It doesn't always work, and you know that-- so YOU assume the risk of getting pregnant, when you're out there creating the risk you say you're desperately trying to avoid. You just want an easy pass to be promiscuous without any consequences. Well, there's no such thing. If you're promiscuous-- you increase the odds of achieving the avoidable. Please NEVER procreate. Get your tubes tied, since you have such a vested interest in maintaining your pursuit of promiscuity on demand
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@Maksie0 It's useless, since there's only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female, and all men are born male. Wishing you were something else doesn't alter reality. Get a clue
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So many worrying about parenting other people's children. It'd be great if they parented their own
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Believe me, it wouldn't be accepted wholeheartedly by most. Sleep well
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@carrotsprig Are you?
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It'd probably tweak your cognitive dissonance into overload huh
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@corps3punk Actually, it just came to me in the moment when I read your comment. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual virtue in your whinging
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@markusbaker1161 Don't be lazy. Do your own research. If you think you can debunk what I said-- Go for it. You haven't yet. No trace of an explanation of why you believe what you assert to be true and accurate, or to prove what I said to be inaccurate-- That's certain. Those hacks you refer to as experts are challenged by their peers in the medical community, who take issue with the ethics and treatment protocols of those who you put your faith in. Your cult is rejected.
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Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are inappropriately confusing and conflating gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous and they are not, while simultaneously insisting that biological sex and gender are disconnected-- while failing to realize that a subjective identity doesn't alter anyone's biological reality. Lost souls
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@markusbaker1161 No, it's what you're peddling that I'm challenging. Why do you believe the "experts" you're putting your faith in, are correct? Did they graduate at the top or bottom of their class? What of the challenges by their peers on the subject matter? No, I reject your pushed cult narrative as total nonsense. Do you have any original thoughts on the matter? If not, save your self the time
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@vintereventyr_ Now, go study the self delete rates compared to the general population and compared to the numbers in the past prior to the implementation of affirmation-based treatment. It's STILL WAY higher, showing a net negative in terms of efficacy and as such isn't justifiable at all
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@Maksie0 There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female, which makes the use of cis/trans intellectually bankrupt.
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@mariec3733 You conflate social constructs with biology, when you say trans women are women. It's patently absurd and totally incorrect. Women aren't a social construct; trans however, IS. Those are men Your cult narrative is rejected.
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@mariec3733 I reject your pushed cult narrative as total nonsense. You say sex and gender are separate; making the point that one's subjective gender identity doesn't alter their biology. Referring to these men as 'she' is grammatically incorrect, and absent any basis in reality-- since one's subjective feelings doesn't transform their sex. Women aren't a social construct, while on the other hand-- Men, portraying themselves as women and who are referring to themselves as trans are men, presenting in the capacity of a social construct. How does that entitle them to be considered women? Answer: It doesn't Cope Harder
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@Maksie0 You spelled Transvestites wrong. How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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Why would someone who believes they're a woman wish to have the 'trans' distinction drawn? That's Odd
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@Maksie0 It's entirely ridiculous, since there's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females. Those men weren't, born females and never will be women. A woman isn't a costume, a feeling, or a social construct. A woman is an adult, human, female-- now you know better. Also, quit conflating gender and personality. It makes you not only wrong but it makes you appear unhinged and intellectually stunted
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@Maksie0 Nothing you wrote changes the fact that there is only i kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making your focus on using cis intellectually vacant.
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Being mentally unhinged from reality, they can and do
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True gender dysphoria is very rare, and I believe the trans-activist ideology and narratives are inappropriately grouping trans people, who are for the most part, merely unapologetically embracing and indulging their perversions-- under the gender dysphoria umbrella. It's disingenuous at BEST Liberals want to give your children hormone blockers, inject them with poison, shame them for their skin color, teach them to be gay, allow them to be groomed by pedophiles and give control of them over to the state. The sad part is that I don't have to exaggerate these claims. They openly support this evil. You are watching the death spiral of the Democratic party. To the feminists who go along with their incoherent ideology-- Best of luck in your near dystopian future, where you'll then be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will say they're women too. And they don't even see it coming. Don't say, no one ever told you
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There are no non-binary humans. To believe we as individuals can have 100% control over our identity in society, what we are seen as by others, in interaction with, and in relation to, society/the world/physical existence is a fool's errand, it is a delusional understanding of reality and existence.
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If it's illegal, they still have a choice to keep the baby. Does that really not occur to you?
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@helloello8343 Irrelevant! If they plan on keeping the baby, wouldn't you say?
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@darcymr353 So?
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@woodsarecreepy3491 💯
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@freedommatters7677 No.
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@freedommatters7677 Because advocating for the wish to be able to terminate the life of the innocent is psychopathic.
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@freedommatters7677 🙄
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@freedommatters7677 I'm not the one advocating, that it should be ok to terminate the lives of the innocent in the name of convenience, for those who created their own dilemma in the first place.
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@JJ-kc3sq They use the word "trans women" instead of "men" too
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@conor.3875 The standard already has a word, and it's woman. A woman is an adult, human, female.
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@conor.3875 Men are men, women are women. Those are biological categories. Men are not women and women are not men. It's really not complicated. That status is permanent and fixed.
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@conor.3875 Why do you think that males and females are social categories?
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@conor.3875 I recommend reading a science book on basic human biology
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@conor.3875 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Gender, gender roles, personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous-- but you can pretend they are-- BUT-- it doesn't make it so. I'm not the one crying because not everyone is fooled into thinking you're a woman, or when others aren't willing to pretend that I'm something I'm not-- insisting on preferred pronoun usage, in conflict with objective reality. I'm still doing GREAT. Happy, retired, and financially independant with a well-adjusted family.
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@conor.3875 The social aspects you're referring to do not alter one's biology-- so why should those men be granted access into women's private spaces?
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@mariec3733 What's the point you're making by saying gender is not the same as sex? That one's gender doesn't alter their biology?? That one's gender identity doesn't impact their sex?
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@mariec3733 I know, which is why those men aren't justified in any way, to be granted access into women's private spaces
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@conor.3875 All that's possible is to alter their appearance. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@conor.3875 Restrooms, sports teams, dressing rooms, prisons and such are designed and implemented based on biology, not subjective imaginary personas or identities.
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@mariec3733 The world couldn't care less how you identify subjectively, contrary to objective reality.
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@conor.3875 We? I think there are a lot more people who reject your narrative, than support it. The time for your delusional nonsense is nearing an end
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@Maksie0 Being that all women are born female, how do you figure?
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@shodannadohs4045 He's a trans activist, agent provocateur who's shoe size dwarfs his IQ
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Yet, the sui*idality numbers have gone up over the decades, not down-- despite the stigma of being gay having nearly evaporated
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@markusbaker1161 Don't need to. The stats have already shown the numbers going up
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@markusbaker1161 No need... You haven't proven men can become women, and until you do that-- your entire narrative is bogus
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@Maksie0 Where's the evidence? Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts and mu r ders itself. There never was a democracy yet, that did not commit sewer_slide.
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@Maksie0 Evidence? At what cost?
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@mariec3733 Then why are some of my comments visible when I'm logged on and not visible when I'm logged out?
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@mariec3733 Restricted/Censored/shadow banned/targeted= Same thing, because other comments posted after the 'restricted' comments, are still showing-- when logged off
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It doesn't solve the promiscuity of those who facilitate the avoidable
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Truth is not subjective. If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? 🦗 In other words: If a girl, trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (supposedly the reason for transitioning), How can gender be fluid and separate from biology? Answer: It can't🦗
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@boobsmcgee5897 Why, according to you should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams??
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@markusbaker1161 I asked a question. I didn't make a declaration. The majority of the comments in the comment section here, don't seem to agree with you. hmmm
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Imagine growing up not knowing ya mam got raped by ur father or that she was traumatized by it-- because that's not the sort of thing you expose a child to, had you, and loved you and raised you to be a happy, productive member of society
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@sabrinawolter9084 The fact is, women have an obligation to themselves to avoid unwanted pregnancy's, as they are the one's faced with the associated risks. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to something more than a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences? Innocent baby's shouldn't be terminated because adults can't act responsibly. The 'Pro'-choice you're in favor of maintaining-- is the ability to terminate the child in the womb, in the name of convenience and it's shameful. The morals and ethics of those who would declare the unborn to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are questionable-- at Best, and are those of narcissists and sociopaths.
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@maxbilo6191 Gaslight harder. It isn't as if women don't know the risk of having sex is pregnancy, so they're without excuse, And, they don't get to terminate their children, because they decided they changed their mind and didn't want to be parents anymore, either
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@mariec7352 Why would he disagree with himself?
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@mariec7352 So, it appears that you're still choosing to remain irrelevant and are still failing to justify terminating the innocent in the womb. You Really need to up your game. You Fail
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@Maksie0 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females-- making the cis distinction entirely useless, redundant and irrelevant. How does that elude you so often??
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@markusbaker1161 In the real world- the objective reality of men and women is fixed and permanent and they aren't able to change their sex and their imagination doesn't make them something else
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@markusbaker1161 In the real world, women are women and men are men-- regardless of how they self-identify.
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@markusbaker1161 In the real world, it Doesn't make them that which they're portraying. Best of luck with your cognitive dissonance
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@markrogers1786 That's because that is exactly what they are-- looney women
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Where does your moral compass point, and what defines it?
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That dude is unhinged from reality
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@Hawrushe Context and perspective seem to give the advocates so much difficulty. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally because of a psych disorder or for attention, or Both.
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@Maksie0 You've not persuaded anyone that you're correct. You Fail That dude is unhinged from reality, like you
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@AshkanPacino13 There's only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female, making the use of cis/trans useless and intellectually vacant. The arguments just don't withstand the scrutiny because life is based in reality, and the trans imagination just doesn't override people's capacity for discernment
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More than that... they're inappropriately misappropriating it from women. Woe to the feminists who buy into there incoherent ideological narratives, as in their not too distant future, they'll be dealing with being oppressed by tyrannical men who will claim they're women
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I think, Women are not forced to have unprotected sex, so if you want to chase pleasure, you have to bear responsibility for the possible outcomes. No innocent life should face termination because of the lack of responsibility among adults. The 'Pro'-choice you're in favor of maintaining-- is the ability to terminate the child in the womb, in the name of convenience and it's shameful. The morals and ethics of those who would declare the unborn to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are questionable-- at Best, and are those of narcissists and sociopaths.
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@mariec3733 You've already been exposed as a troll, who plays the part of a fool w/ the ethics of a phone scammer, who does not value life. You've refuted nothing
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@mariec3733 It's as if you fail to realize that my comments are still there, owning you thoroughly again and again. You're dismissed for being less than useless
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@mariec3733 The comments are still there, all exposing your nonsense, clown. Your failure to discern that when discussing choice, assault victims are clearly not the subject (DUH)-- is clear. Your failure to discern the fact that women are in charge of choosing to risk getting pregnant in the other 99% of cases, is clear. That you run from responsibility for the consequences for your actions is pathetic.
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Why? Do you believe that your respect is of value to anyone but you?
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@mariec7352 Respect is earned, and is reserved for that which is respectable. The problem with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual virtue whatsoever, in any of your trolling.
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They both involve men presenting as something they're not and can never be-- ie. Women
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@katiekateaf So what? I find them hilariously entertaining. The salient point that seems to elude you is-- They're Still men (in this video) portraying themselves as something they're not, and can never be ie. women.
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@fable_enthusiast If you listen really carefully, you hear that sound? That's the sound of reality, pointing out your incoherent, ideological narratives being rejected by men, and women everywhere. Don't believe me?? Ask Budweiser
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@MarshallllWalker There are no trans humans. There are males and females. That's it... Now you know. A woman isn't a costume that men can put on, and she isn't a social construct. Update your understanding to comprehend the fact that personality and gender aren't synonymous
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@fable_enthusiast Men with dysphoria are still men. They are not women. That the concept is not clear to you is odd
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@fable_enthusiast Male / Female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Once a male, always a male. If their identity requires me or anyone else to deny objective reality, and my participation in their cosplay and LARPing, using their preferred pronouns etc... Too bad, so sad-- that identity is not valid
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You can be male or female, that's it... and either can choose their political affiliations. Trans... nah if you neuter a male dog, he's still a male
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Tell me, why should a male, be granted access to female's private spaces like dressing rooms, locker rooms, sports teams, restrooms and prisons?
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@markusbaker1161 A suggested response to preferred pronouns, no doubt
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@markusbaker1161 To you Blossom, No doubt
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Consider that 80% of black families are single households where the mothers are raising the children, and there is no father. Who else's fault could it possibly be?
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@Maksie0 HA HA THAT's Wrong.
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@Theforce8888 That fool drank all the cult Koolaid.
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@Maksie0 No-- they are not. You keep ignorantly saying that w/ such conviction. It's pretty funny. Women who are trans are called trans men. Update your material
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@littlepoodle7443 I hate to break it to you, but a woman isn't a costume that men can simply put on. Women aren't a social construct. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female, and those men weren't. Now you know
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@asia3882 Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Gender and Personality-- They haven't learned the difference. There's only one kind of woman, and they are all born females, so... using the cis prefix is totally redundant and unnecessary. The entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. There are males and females. That's it! Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct; She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals specifically humans.
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@ianwallace7704 There's only 1 kind of woman, and she's born female. Those men were not
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@ianwallace7704 There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females. Those dudes weren't and will never be women. They're imposters posing as something they're not
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@TorbieGinger Not even close. ALL real women are born females. Those males who you say are real women, are not any kind of woman. Cope and seethe harder
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@TorbieGinger No they aren't. In order to be a woman one must 1st be born female, then grow up into adulthood
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@bryant2611 There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the cis descriptor less than useless
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@replitzit No, still a he.
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When "trans-women" are insisting that they ARE 'women'-- NO, they are not. They can't even define woman, so how do they know? They're free to identify as a deity, but that doesn't make it so... It makes them delusional, or narcissistic or BOTH
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There is no such thing as 'trans'. There are people, and people are male or female... That's it
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It kind of is similarly science vs science-fiction
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Wait... They said gender is fluid and disconnected from biology, so how then, is there male privilege? It's incoherent
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@krasmasov6852 Yes, obviously he's not confused about the differences between males and females, and he doesn't seem to have any confusion about the fact that the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence butch females, effeminate males, and tomboys) are not evidence of other genders. Why do you?
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@catboyash That's is totally wrong
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@catboyash You haven't made the case for why someone who's XY should be considered XX (As would necessarily be the case, to substantiate the statement that trans women are women) or trans XX. Why not try being relevant for a change?
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@diavoios It's a term used in chemistry that has nothing whatsoever, to do with gender. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female, making the use of cis/trans intellectually vacant and useless
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@hello-sz7hp Evil is evil... There's no 'fair' in the equation, but I get what you mean
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@hello-sz7hp I agree, though acknowledge that life isn't fair in this fallen world we live in
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@hello-sz7hp There is no way to force the fallen world into being fair. There is no escaping the culpability that women have, regarding their choices to risk their body's getting pregnant, and any efforts to pretend that they have no power to avoid the avoidable are in vain.
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@darcymr353 No. It's highly prudent and much preferred to terminating the life of an innocent child in the womb
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Who's in charge of preventing and/or facilitating that condition (pregnancy)?
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Their affirmation-based treatment recommendations, by the so-called professionals, were wrong and thoroughly and woefully insufficient.
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@Maksie0 The logic it takes to say that someone who has a host of other behavioral/mental disorders (as nearly all dealing with transgenderism do) and is willing to mutilate themselves in irreversible fashion to achieve a status wherein they're still dozens of times more likely to commit sui**de ISN'T mental illness, is amazingly twisted. Insert any other condition and any other incessant desire to self-harm and there would be no dispute whatsoever.
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@markusbaker1161 More avoiding the substantive content, from you. shocker
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@markusbaker1161 fool... Women aren't a social construct. Trans is a social construct.
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@markusbaker1161 Yes it does. Cope Harder. If gender was merely a social construct and disconnected from biology (it is not), then trans is just a mere social construct-- and it doesn't invalidate biology. The law defines a woman as an adult, human, female. The males you're referring to as trans women, aren't that. Not at all. They're still men. They will always be men, and nothing you or anyone else can do or say about it will change that fact. Medicine and science note the biological differences between the sexes/genders (all 2 of them-- male and female).
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@markusbaker1161 No, it does not. Trans however, is a social construct that in no way invalidates biology
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@markusbaker1161 You said trans women are women. Looks like you're saying women are a social construct, and I wouldn't put it past you dear-- you haven't made any coherent case yet-- to support that statement or to explain the logic behind it.
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@markusbaker1161 You want more copy paste? You're still mad because you got owned again and again... re: your lack of integrity and inability to articulate your logic or make an intelligent case. Your stalking makes it seem like you're Blossoms lover w/ a grudge. It's okay for you to be gay
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@markusbaker1161 When questioned about it, you refused to explain the lack of logic behind your adoption of the narrative talking points. When corrected, regarding the law, when given the legal definition of a woman YOU ignored it. When pointed out that science distinguishes the differences between the sexes, you switch to talking about social constructs, insisting that women are a social construct. That is anti-science dear. The problem you have is-- you and the narratives you present are wrong, and you haven't attempted to make it make sense-- when challenged on your claims and the claims of others that you promote.
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@markusbaker1161 And I don't answer to you, but still-- unlike you, I'm am able and willing to articulate why I believe what I do, while happily debunking your talking points. If you refuse to engage in conversation with integrity and explain why you believe what you believe to be true and correct, why should ANYONE take you seriously? (rhetorical). I've dismissed your relevance a long while ago due to your lacking integrity and incoherent messaging and you've proven me correct in my assessment every step of the way. I will wear that label like a badge of honor
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@markusbaker1161 You stated that trans women are women. They are in fact, not. They are men. Then you deflect to say gender and sex are separate, while failing to articulate why those men should be granted access to women's private spaces, considering that males and females are biological categories which are fixed and permanent, not social constructs. No everything you said is nonsense
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@markusbaker1161 Biology isn't a social construct, so how do you figure the notion a trans woman is a woman makes sense to you? A woman is not a social construct.
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@markusbaker1161 When you said trans women (a social construct) are women (a biological category). The two are not synonymous
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@markusbaker1161 Yet, you continue to connect them as though they weren't separate, by incorrectly phrasing your statement "trans women are women". Trans women are not biological women, and women aren't a social construct-- So how do you figure those men (since gender is according to you disconnected from sex), are women? Incoherent idiocy on your part
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@markusbaker1161 Trans women are not women-- they're men. You can pretend otherwise if you like-- BUT it isn't making them women or any less men, AT ALL. You being wrong and insisting that gender and sex are different doesn't surprise me anymore-- it illustrates the giant gaping hole in your capacity for logic and reason.
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@markusbaker1161 Wrong
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@markusbaker1161 I already have, to my satisfaction.
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@an-me Your failure to refute what I wrote doesn't make me look incompetent I claim that male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent and you've failed to refute that.
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@an-me Your reading comprehension is wack. Get a refund from your HS You wrote, "The issue is that you claim males "biologically" are only angry when they're not because little boys cry." I never claimed that
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@an-me It's as if you fail to realize that my comments are actually visible. You seem triggered. Perhaps you should switch to decaf.
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@an-me You've established only that your reading comprehension capacity is severely stunted or you're trolling for sport or both. Either way, you've failed to make any affirmative case or refute anything I've written
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@bunnieknox7570 Consider that women attempt it more than men. Men tend to use lethal force, so are more successful w/ their attempts. Are the increased number of women who attempt it, just crazier or less competent?
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@maxrodgar No, it's still being observant of the fact that they are not that which they claim to be. You could have a surgeon alter your appearance to be like a Star Trek Klingon or Romulan, and regardless if you really believe that you are now a Klingon or a Romulan-- You are Not. The same reality applies
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@kay-ju4gj Fyi, gender dysphoria is a mental disorder too, but when you operate as though your subjective self-perception, which is not based in objective reality-- but must be considered valid by the rest of the world-- coupled with the notion that others must perceive you as you perceive yourself-- is TOTALLY Narcissistic. How is it not? Perhaps, they're merely an acquaintance... I don't know. Either way, You don't get to choose the one's that others use, when speaking about you to someone else. Free lesson to the grammatically challenged regarding pronouns and how they're utilized: 1st person pronouns are grouped into 5 categories: Subject pronouns 1st person "I", Object pronouns 1st person "Me", possessive adjectives 1st person "My", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Mine", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Myself" 2nd person: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourself" 3rd person (Male): Subject pronouns 3rd person "He", Object pronouns 3rd person "Him", possessive adjectives 3rd person "His", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "His", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Himself" 3rd person (Female): Subject pronouns 3rd person "She", Object pronouns 3rd person "Her", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Her", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Hers", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Herself" 3rd Thing: Subject pronouns 3rd thing "It", Object pronouns 3rd thing "It", possessive adjectives 3rd thing "Its", Possessive pronouns 3rd thing "Not Used", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd thing "Itself" 1st person plural: Subject pronouns "We", Object pronouns 1st person "Us", possessive adjectives 1st person "Our", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Ours", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Ourselves" 2nd person plural: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourselves" 3rd person and (thing) plural: Subject pronouns "They", Object pronouns "Them", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Their", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Theirs", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Themselves". Now stop embarrassing yourself.
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Avoid the avoidable. There's no justification for terminating the life of the innocent
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@Maksie0 Trans lady's 1st
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@@malaika777 That dude is a trans-activist agent provocateur, and he hates me because I have destroyed all of his narratives, and I recognize his nonsense and call it out whenever I see it.
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@DefiledDame They're the one's who get triggered over pronouns etc..., I'm not the one that needs to cope harder. LOL
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Life is worth living. Why do you disagree?
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@mariec3733 If you advocate for the casual termination of the innocent in the womb- on demand, saving lives is in the opposite direction. Just sayin...
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I would've crushed that fool in a debate. It looks like they still haven't figured out that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender yet.
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@mariec3733 You're such a troll... Birth control is a means for preventing you from getting pregnant. It doesn't always work, and you know that-- so YOU assume the risk of getting pregnant, when you're out there creating the risk you say you're desperately trying to avoid. You just want an easy pass to be promiscuous without any consequences. Well, there's no such thing. Please NEVER procreate. Get your tubes tied, since you have such a vested interest in maintaining your pursuit of promiscuity on demand
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As is often the case with those who have psych issues
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@dogenjoyer2480 Ya, because regardless or choosing to chemically castrate themselves, and / or alter their physical appearance, or claiming a subjective gender identity, and choosing to wear a dress, portraying a stereotypical caricature of the opposite sex-- they're men. ALL men are born male, all women are born female and that state is fixed and permanent as it is with all mammalian species-- and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference, personality trait or temperament, or a costume.
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They are activist, agent provocateurs-- pushing an agenda
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The only ones insisting on labels are the women, regarding their preferred pronouns. Those chics are nuts. What are you rambling on about?
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Just being observant of the difference between reality and fantasy
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You just want a free pass to indulge in your pwn promiscuity, free from consequence. Don't want to get pregnant? Don't risk the avoidable. It's not really that complicated. If you can't do that-- Get your damned tubes tied. This entire comment section is filled with single damaged goods - women over 30, and activist trolls and confused teenagers, who's shoe size dwarfs their collective IQ
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@mariec3733 It's actually the only thing that actually does work 100% of the time, at preventing pregnancy. You know-- the thing you're trying to avoid. 🤡
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Some hairy dude in a dress screaming, "It's MA'AM"-- while insisting that they're a woman doesn't make it so. Similarly, having a plastic surgeon change their appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek, doesn't actually make them a Klingon. Same is true regarding gender transition surgery. Still, XX or XY These people are deluded and entirely confused. shocker
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@Maksie0 There's only 1 kind of woman and they're all born females. You know this, making the use of the cis prefix totally irrelevant, and an intentional slur, intending to provoke, agitate and incite a negative response. That approach didn't work well for Budweiser, and it isn't going to work out well for you either
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@Maksie0 Better get used to the rejection... or correct your thinking
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"It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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Have literary devices like that always presented you with an issue?
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@conor.3875 Women are born females, and those dudes weren't. Men can't be women
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@conor.3875 No, it isn't. You seem to be unaware of the fact that the exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule; they prove the rule true by being the exceptions. Now you know
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If one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must deny objective reality, then that identity is invalid
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That shows that the 42% of them-- who have more than one abortion, weren't traumatized enough to learn a lesson, since according to the CDC, In 2019, women who had not aborted in the past accounted for 58% of all abortions; women with one or two prior abortions accounted for 34%, and women with three or more prior abortions accounted for 8% --(CDC)
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@annawintourhairera The time for that decision is prior to conception, not afterwards-- because afterwards come the consequences of her choice to risk pregnancy, and then it isn't only her body.
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@annawintourhairera The choice is to risk it or not. if she chooses to risk it-- it's her fault, and it's longer only her body-- and she knows that too.
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@mariec3733 Of course she's carrying... She chose to engage in the act which caused her pregnancy. Fact: TOTALLY her fault
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It's the 1st stage of trans-humanism
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Half the panel are women.
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"Tolerance will reach such a level, that intelligent people will be banned from thinking, so as not to offend the imbeciles"-- Dostoievski
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@whitewhitewhite2446 Tis the season for ghouls
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Highlighting only their ignorance
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I think it's more simple than that. They self-delete because they've got various other psych issues going on.
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Yup... woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology as in their near dystopian futures they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men who will claim they're women-- and they don't seem to see it coming. smh
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Gender and personality are two different things too, but they conflate them as though they're synonymous-- and they're not
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@krasmasov6852 You're conflating science-fiction with science. They're inappropriately attempting to rename and recategorize the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence tomboys, effeminate males, or butch females), "Gender"-- and that's just incorrect
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They not considered women by people who haven't lost their eye sight, along with their capacity for reason
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@MayorWahna Toxic femininity, and the benefit of maintaining the ability to be hypocritical while remaining the victim-- which goes along with it
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You conflate social constructs with biology, when you say trans women are women. It's patently absurd and totally incorrect
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@mariec3733 You don't have to. Like I told you, I used to work w/ the developmentally disabled and they could tell the difference between men and women-- what's your excuse for the confusion?
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@mariec3733 No, you don't. Look, men can't become women, and women cannot become men. It's really not complicated. That you fail to realize that the exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule-- they prove the rule by being the exception is on you. Your failure to recognize that about intersex disorders is a YOU problem.
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@mariec3733 Then, quit incorrectly stating that trans women are women. They are not.
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@mariec3733 That's why the statement 'trans women are women' is patently absurd and false.
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@mariec3733 I know they're not women. You keep saying trans women are women, while maintaining that they're not biological women. A woman isn't a social construct, so make it make sense
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@mariec3733 They're men in reality, portraying a socially constructed persona and image-- based in fantasy like LARPing in cosplay. Still men
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@mariec3733 Prove me wrong, if you think you can. When some hairy dude in a dress is screaming, "It's MA'AM" verifying their DNA isn't required by most people. What's your excuse for the confusion???
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@mariec3733 You didn't answer my questions, so that's what you get. I don't need DNA verification to recognize that a male is a male or that a female is a female. Why do you? Even a baby knows the difference at feeding time. Do Better
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@mariec3733 You're ridiculous. You said that, not me-- when you said trans women are women.
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@mariec3733 Seeing the results of DNA and chromosomes forming males and/or females doesn't require an electron microscope to decipher the differences.
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@Maksie0 Your entire reply doesn't invalidate the scientifically factual statements that male and female are permanent states
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Too bad nobody asked if the pro-trans agenda intended to prove that the gender pay gap is a myth, by maintaining the ideology's insistence that gender is separate from biology and fluid. 🤯😱😭😵‍💫😵🥴😏😂🤣
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Why, according to you-- should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim that they're women.
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@markusbaker1161 Not an answer to the question-- Again. Bottom line-- You can't
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@markusbaker1161 My question posed to the OP is clearly visible. Care to take a shot at answering it? Why should men (whether you rename them Trans-women or not-- that's what they are or traditional biological men) be granted access to women's private spaces, based on their subjective identity claims, which aren't reflected in reality?? Nothing still? Shocker... 🙄
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not. I was asking, if that is what you believe-- Why should they be granted access to those women's spaces, being that they're still men, and since restrooms are designed-- based on biology, not feelings or subjective identity??
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@thatbicatlady No, that's me pointing out that NO men should be granted to women's spaces regardless of their feelings about their self-proclaimed feelings about their subjective identity
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@markusbaker1161 Evidence?
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, trans women are still men, who've merely altered their appearance. This is not a complex equation
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@thatbicatlady How are they-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? And I asked, Why should those men who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria be granted access to women's private spaces?
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@GrahamChapman Then, they should quit their whining and use the men's room if they're males, and the female restroom if they're females.
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The point is to establish the truth and debunking the nonsense that is the trans activist ideology, is the path
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@ladyinblack3398 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female. Those dudes weren't
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@becky14 The prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female and trans women are not that. Are you able to cite any evidence that shows trans women are not biological men? I see them as synonymous
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@theeofficalplayerr2577 Why risk pregnancy with people who would be deadbeats?
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@bgos4727 Birth control is a means for preventing women from getting pregnant. It doesn't always work, and you know that and so do women-- So, women assume the risk of getting pregnant, when they're out there creating the risk they say they're desperately trying to avoid. They just want an easy pass to be promiscuous without any consequences. Well, there's no such thing. Those types should NEVER procreate. They should get their tubes tied, since they have such a vested interest in maintaining their pursuit of promiscuity on demand
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Not as astonishing as the total lack of evidence that the shots work as advertised
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@Maksie0 It has nothing to do with transgenderism.
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@dawnbeaird5183 Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it by replacing you
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@Maksie0 That sound you're hearing is the sound of women rejecting your ideological narrative, terminology and calling it out for what it is-- bull 💩
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@Inkedalic3 What a croc of crap. They're done for the convenience of self-centered women
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@BeesPovs There are LOTS of testimony's available of the mothers and their daughters of that situation, who are clearly, productive, and happy to be alive.
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@BeesPovs Life is worth living, and there's no guarantee to a life free from adversity-- and apparently, those who you're talking about think so too, because they're giving their opinion as if their lives are valuable. Shame on the mothers for telling their children
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@BeesPovs You don't get to terminate the lives of people because they're handicapped
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If you have to resort to elaborate disguises which alter your appearance so dramatically to appear like that which you are not-- that is you avoiding being who you really are, and it amounts to cosplay
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@junedee It's a debate, put on a public platform making it everyone's business. Get a clue
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@junedee The delusional women pretending to be men, and getting upset at not being recognized for their preferred disguise vs who and what they actually are, is what's funny to me
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Looks like someone that’s supportive of eugenics by saying that people shouldn’t live in poverty - so your solution is to terminate them? Lol. Wow
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Nope, a woman is an adult, human female.
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@happylittleacident Your question was, "so does this make these women less of a woman> should the definition of a woman be her ability to have a baby?" My response answered your question with a clear no, AND THEN I provided the correct definition of a woman for you. Is there a problem?
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@happylittleacident No, not at all
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@markusbaker1161 You said trans women are women. Looks like you're saying women are a social construct, and I wouldn't put it past you dear-- you haven't made any coherent case yet-- to support that statement or to explain the logic behind it.
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@markusbaker1161 You're the one promoting the insane ideas as fact, so it's coming from you.
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@markusbaker1161 Your argumentative interactions proves otherwise
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@markusbaker1161 How cute... But your approval isn't required nor valued
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There are literally MILLIONS of women who handle their family planning and birth control effectively every day. It's not difficult AT ALL
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Not surprising when dealing with the mentally ill. The thing is, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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None, if your degree is in Physics, Electronics, Engineering, or Technology
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NONSENSE... It's more like, If you don't want to get pregnant, quit facilitating your own dilemmas
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@hiyves9880 Cry harder... You're incorrect
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@hiyves9880 Irrelevant. Humans are only capable of being pregnant w/ humans
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Humans are only capable of being pregnant with human offspring, which seems to confuse some people in the comment section
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Compared to men, in general--they are, the Yin to men's Yang
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Sex and gender are not disconnected. The variability in personality traits and temperament are not gender
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That dude sounds like a confused, intellectually stunted, and morally bankrupt fool
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No one forced women to risk an unwanted pregnancy. They'd actually prefer women conduct themselves responsibly, and intelligently and avoid their own totally avoidable unwanted pregnancy-- since they have all the means to do so, and so-- are obligated and without excuse.
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@mariec3733 Who said they were?
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@mariec7352 No, I didn't. Your lack of awareness and creativity, are noted...
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@mariec7352 Not all women want to avoid pregnancy. Those who do, have a variety of options beyond abstinence, and millions of women have figured out how to implement those various options successfully. What's your excuse for being so confused?
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@mariec7352 Really? Using toys, oral, non-vaginal, tubal ligation, the pill, IUD's, condoms, vasectomies, etc... Never occurred to you?
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@mariec3733 Because it's an option that's utilized successfully by millions-- Every day, in all of the available forms and in combination with multiple forms. Why do you ask?
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@mariec7352 Who told you tubal ligations were non-reversible?
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@mariec7352 Which question specifically are you referring to? I answered all of your other comments, and some had questions for you-- which you've NEVER addressed-- but I digress. You can't answer my questions, and you've proven time and time again that you don't comprehend the answers. Bottom line: Women who want to avoid unwanted pregnancies can and should and they have no one to blame but themselves, if they risk it and conceive. (Obviously not talking about rape victims) That doesn't justify terminating the innocent life, that they created.
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@mariec7352 There is no expected or established rite to sex between fertile males and females, without risk of pregnancy-- being the point you seem unable to assimilate.
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@mariec3733 The nuance is found in the reason those 'certain cases' are exceptions, as I've explained several times. They end up in the same category as would a miscarriage. How does that being a justification continually elude you, or do you believe that a woman who's life is in imminent peril, which would result in the fetus's life being terminated as a matter of fate-- shouldn't attempt to save herself?
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@mariec3733 You might want to log out, clear your cache and revisit the video comment section without logging in, and go see for yourself what's clearly visible to the general viewing public and what isn't.
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@mariec7352 Don't cry... If you can't have what you want... Want something else
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@conor.3875 A natural consequence is the natural outcome of an action. Do you?
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@conor.3875 Natural consequences are the outcome of an action-- that occurs as a result of that action. They're not artificially imposed by someone else. You do something and you experience the actual consequence of your choice. This can lead to real and immediate behavior change. You touch a hot stove? Your hand is burned.
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@conor.3875 I prefer relevant endeavors. Tell me, what part of that justifies abortion?
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@conor.3875 Then, prove your analogy's relevance--by telling me how is any part of your analogy's focus a relevant justification for abortion, and we'll see how sound it is--Or Not.
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@mariec3733 WOW, You're T R I G G E R E D
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@mariec7352 It does, if the mother dies when the fetus is 21weeks or younger. Quit blabbering nonsense
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@mariec7352 You have failed to justify terminating the unborn in the womb...FULL Stop You're not making any points for arguing, for argument's sake
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@mariec7352 The autonomy you're discussing is in place-- prior to conception. After conception, the body autonomy of the child, which the mother facilitated to be growing in her womb, isn't hers to terminate in the name of bodily autonomy. Hypocrite
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@mariec7352 Waiting? Your cognitive dissonance is noted
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@mariec7352 Total Nonsense. Her autonomy was fully in tact when she decided to risk pregnancy. Once she conceived the baby's body autonomy comes into play
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@Maksie0 All women are born female, and all men are born male, making the use of cis/trans irrelevant, and intellectually vacant.
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@firstofawll Reality for women being attacked in women's rooms by men claiming to be trans is a matter of record. Whats your point?
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No... Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@allyomeally-watson3285 No worries... We, as a society don't have to deny objective reality to protect the 'Feelings' of those with psych issues
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@murakami3602 Perhaps because only they can do it, and it makes the human race possible?
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@Maksie0 No one gives a crap how you identify but you. There is only one kind of woman, and she's born female. Learn it. Know it. Live it
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@crystalcole2674 They inappropriately conflate gender and sex. Then they inappropriately conflate gender and gender roles. Then they inappropriately conflate personality traits and temperament with gender. Ya, it's absurd. They fail to realize that if their identity relies upon the participation of others denying objective reality-- that those identities are invalid.
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@Maksie0 Not... How do you keep getting that wrong? Women who are trans are trans men, according to (exhibit A) -- Your very own incoherent cult narrative. Come on-- get it straight
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@crystalcole2674 If you want to have a deeper look, scroll down the comment section and see the comments these trolls have made. I swear it's as though they're trying to prove beyond all doubt that their collective IQ's are dwarfed by their shoe size
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@crystalcole2674 😏
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@Lulu-gb7xu Erik is a fool and and a troll who has only established their single digit IQ comments, and has refuted nothing whatsoever.
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💯🎯
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@astraycat112 No, it's a total croc.
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@Bound2chaos2 Exactly Correct. 1 Million up votes
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About 40% of trans people self-delete, begging the questioning of the efficacy and ethics of the so-called-medical and psych professionals who advocate, prescribe and perform these procedures
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Why would someone who believes they're a woman wish to have the trans distinction drawn? That's Odd
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@oyleday0195 I’m not delusional::::says the person who chooses to chop off their body parts, thinking it'll change their sex.
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@oyleday0195 Then their expectations of the use of their preferred pronouns by others, in opposition to objective reality are absurd and totally narcissistic.
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@oyleday0195 You know what else is totally different-- Objective reality. That's the disconnect from truth. They can identify as 15' tall and that doesn't make it so either. They're not trans anything. Still Human, Still Male or Female as they were when they were born, respectively -- just not the opposite sex in the gender binary any more than a drag queen is
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@oyleday0195 2- genders... that's it. You seem to be inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@oyleday0195 Not arguing... Exposing the incoherent narratives for what they are
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@oyleday0195 People with mental problems don't get to dictate reality to those who see things for what they are. Your "Requirements" creates ZERO obligation of others. To expect that others need to perceive you and affirm you as you see yourself, contrary to objective reality is the height of narcissism
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@oyleday0195 They don't transition into another gender. Gender is the the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female. Male and female are biological categories, not psychological categories-- which happen to be fixed and permanent. You could have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, prescribe hormones, and recommend a fashion consultant and makeup specialists and it wouldn't make you an actual Klingon, and if you thought it did-- you're delusional
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@Maksie0 Mulvaney??
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@Maksie0 Then, why have you run like a coward, instead of answering my question?? Your 'because you said so' standard has been issued exactly ZERO credibility, so you're going to have to do much better than that to make your case. You Fail to persuade
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@Maksie0 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. If you could process the facts, and weren't acting like an activist -- reality wouldn't be so confusing for you
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@Maksie0 Kick Rocks f00l. You, apparently don't even comprehend the differences between men and women. Your capacity to comprehend the answers, seeing as how you keep saying the same intellectually stunted slogans over and over, seems unlikely-- seeing as I already answered you and you're still asking for the answer.
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@dotdot6008 If women offer themselves up to men for sex, they are the catalyst for their own avoidable dilemma. The intellectual gymnastics that SO MANY go through, to avoid responsibly for their own action is stunning. Women know what causes pregnancy, and so-- have no one to blame for their unwanted pregnancy but themselves, when they facilitate the one and only act which causes their avoidable dilemma. OWN it!
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@dotdot6008 Ab0rti0n is avoiding responsibility for their actions
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@dotdot6008 Is the value of the child diminished because one of their parents was bad, in those 1% of cases vs the other 99%+ of cases? Is adoption somehow not an option for those of whom you speak?
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@dotdot6008 If feminists were 100% honest, they'd be able to define the question, what is a woman-- accurately.
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@dotdot6008 Gender and biology are not disconnected. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male and female-- respectively. Your narrative is inappropriately conflating the variability in personality types and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys)
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@dotdot6008 That's so ignorant. Women and their biology make the continuation of the human race possible. Get a clue...
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@fable_enthusiast Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1.) Your body and brain develop & grow together -> You simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2.) Hating a part of you body so much, that you cut it off, is a mental illness.
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@markusbaker1161 Untwist the knot in your thong, Blossom
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@markusbaker1161 The similarity of the absence of integrity, evading answering questions, and of a coherent argument is uncanny, Blossom.
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@timelapse497 A dude in a dress, wearing makeup, and insisting that it's Ma'am-- doesn't make him a woman, anymore than a kid in a play wearing a dragon costume makes them a dragon-- EVEN IF they both REALLY believe it-- and if they do-- they're delusional, by definition
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Do you believe your life is valuable?
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@mariec3733 Ya, post a link to your resources. LOL
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@mariec3733 Nope. Your reading comprehension deficit is negatively affecting your understanding-- Again/Still
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@mariec3733 The source for your "psych*tic episode" you referred to. Are you still in therapy? You keep making false claims about what I've written, and you've incorrectly quoted me and credit me with things I've never written. You fail to cite any thread with the name of the thread poster and/or refer to how long ago I supposedly wrote what you allege. Unborn children deserve bodily autonomy just like any other human being, and you seem to disagree. We definitely disagree.
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@mariec3733 You said, " I see you're having another psych*tic episode though, can I send you some resources?" THOSE, resources
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@mariec3733 You can write the title of an article or study at the very least
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Irrelevant, what someone delusional individual with a mental disorder believes, when objective reality conflicts with their imaginations run wild-- in terms of it's impact on reality. They aren't trans ANYTHING. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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@mariec7352 That's why the onus is on the woman to make smarter choices
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They're not trans anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after.
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@bokboman Their problem is predicated on the notion that all of society (The vast majority) must affirm their self-perceived, subjective identities-- contrary to objective reality, making their identity invalid
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@markusbaker1161 Not my problem. I'm the one they're trying to persuade to affirm their delusional self-perception, as though it's based in reality by insisting on their preferred pronouns etc., are used. Looks like their problem to me. There's no hate in recognizing that they are not that which they claim to be. That's just being observant
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@thickqueen4207 Then, you shouldn't have asked. The morals and ethics of those who would declare the innocent to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are those of narcissists and sociopaths. Are you a computer, phone scammer too?
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@lannhikari7762 Satan goes after those he doesn't already have
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@aoto8897 If he already has someone, he doesn't need to 'go after' them. Duh...
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@ginggrimson424 If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? In other words: If a girl, trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (supposedly the reason for transitioning), How can gender be fluid and separate from biology? Answer: It can't
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A moral compass guides them?
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That's a lot of mental (Pardon the pun) gymnastics. You aren't transitioning at all. What you're describing amounts to LARPing and cosplay. You're still the sex/gender you were born as...
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Gender and sex aren't disconnected rather are intrinsically linked.
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Those self-centered narcissists couldn't care less.
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@Maksie0 Yes, it is-- and Yes, it is. Women are women, and men are men-- regardless of how they self-identify, so using cis is redundant and none of anyone's concern but yours
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@markusbaker1161 Next you'll want proof that schizophrenia is a mental illness. The only one fooled is you
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@markusbaker1161 The DSM has already articulated why and how it's a psych disorder, until 5 seconds ago-- when the activist political hacks changed categories despite outspoken doctors taking issue with the decisions.
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@markusbaker1161 There's no need. If anything I said were false-- anyone could come along and prove that-- but neither you nor anyone else has so what I said stands
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@dc3276 They call men toxic, but when those men call out their toxic female empowerment, then the females label the men bigots and sexists. The trans-human ideology is incoherent. The suffer high anxiety when having to select the appropriate restroom, while whinging away about a white, male-dominated patriarchy at the root of a gender pay gap, while insisting that gender is fluid because cause and affect elude their single-digit IQ capacity
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Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical males who will claim they're women-- and they don't even see it coming
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Evidence?
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@ElanaVital83 Just some perspective-- The rate of self-deleting, even after transition-- shows they aren't that happy.
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@ElanaVital83 A quick search shows the rate is horrible, and it doesn't reflect that the affirmation treatment protocols currently in the main stream are very effective at all. Quite the contrary
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@ElanaVital83 Their capacity for logic, reason, critical thinking, and intelligent analytical capacity is impaired so severely-- that expecting them to reach intellectually sound conclusions isn't in and of itself logical or reasonable. I mean, they can't grasp the fact that the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. They totally get it wrong on gender. Then, they conflate personality with gender. Then, they conflate gender, temperament and personality with gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate males with females. Then, they conflate men with women. Then, they conflate reality with imaginary fiction.
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@Maksie0 Rejection... You better get use to it. You fail to persuade
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@Maximum_unknowns That dude is a trans-activist troll
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@mariec3733 Triggered.... It wasn't in quotes genius
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@jupiterfox7683 The brain and body develop simultaneously, so it isn't actually possible to be born into the wrong body. That's a fact
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@jupiterfox7683 The same DNA that forms your body forms your brain. If your subjective identity relies on others denying objective reality, and requires the participation of others in your little bubble-- then your identity is invalid. Your ideology is incoherent. You get it wrong on gender. Then you conflate gender with personality traits and temperament as though they're synonymous-- and they are not. Then, you conflate gender and gender roles. Then, you conflate males with females
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@jupiterfox7683 If as you suggest, gender and sex aren't connected (That's incorrect)-- justify those biological men being granted access to women's private spaces. You can't because they aren't. I already told you,quit conflating gender with personality. They aren't synonymous. Look, Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and relates to the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Gender and Personality-- They haven't learned the difference. There's only one kind of woman, and they are all born females, so... using the cis prefix is totally redundant and unnecessary. The entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh There are males and females. That's it! Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct; She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals-- specifically, humans.
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@jupiterfox7683 From Black's law dictionary-- Woman: An adult, human, female
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@jupiterfox7683 You can choose to have a surgeon alter your appearance to appear like a Klingon from Star Trek, put on makeup, and a Klingon wardrobe and it doesn't make you a Klingon-- BUT-- if you believe it does, you're detached from reality
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@jupiterfox7683 How then, is that a justification for granting males access to females private spaces??? Answer: It is not
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@jupiterfox7683 Again, that's not justifying men being granted access to women's private spaces. Your argument is out of gas. Regarding people, they are male or female, respectively. That's it! You're incorrectly discussing and confusing personality traits (which are not gender exclusive) and gender roles, which again-- are roles related to being male or female, respectively, with gender. Gender, there are 2. Personality traits and temperament-- there are a ton of variety. They're not synonymous. Learn the differences
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Because compared to them those men are clearly deluded??
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@Pleaselletmedrinkmysoda That dude isn't any kind of woman. Women (ALL of them) are born female, and that dude wasn't.
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Not a great analogy, as you can in fact have transplant surgery, which does do exactly that. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect. That's it. Doing cosplay, doesn't get it done, and neither does gene therapy w/ surgery with an elaborate costume. If anything it's more trans-human than transgender. Gender and biology aren't separate. The ideology's narrative is incoherent. They're attempting to rename personality traits and temperament-- which are not gender exclusive, 'Gender'-- and that's just incorrect
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Those chics are nuts
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@yogurtthestrawberrykind2541 Theones who think they're males now
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@wilp0000 The self-deletion rates after the procedure, doesn't show well for the effectiveness of affirmation based treatment protocols, and calls into question the ethics of the medical and psych "professionals" who facilitate those procedures.
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@Maksie0 It is the trans-activists like you, who's insistence that others-- who are already minding their own business, participate in your LARP and cosplay, by insisting on the grammatically incorrect use of pronouns, and with no regard for the displacement of women's privacy, which is at the root of how you brought your business to everyone in public, making it their business. Irony or idiocy? Quit your whining. You look and sound ridiculous
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They are merely personality traits, not exclusive to gender-- that's why there are butch females and effeminate males
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Evidence to support your conclusion??
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@anakin1831 First-- Masculinity is a personality trait and a description of temperament, not exclusive to gender. Second-- Men have more instances because they tend to use lethal means of force. Women attempt it more often, and don't tend to use as lethal of a means of force as men-- so aren't as successful, however; Does that mean they're more screwed up, since they attempt it more? The trans-activist ideology is incoherent, and is Anti-women. Try again?
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@Maksie0 psych cases... That's why
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@Maksie0 Keep screeching... It's HILARIOUS, watching you grasping at straws. You're a dude, and your costume isn't fooling anyone
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@kirstenchelsea7814 Sorry, the innocent baby is the priority.
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@kirstenchelsea7814 The mother's life being at risk is the exception to the rule, though is the rare case-- and many attempt to superimpose the marginal case as though it's the default for all other cases, and that's disingenuous--at best
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@eveliinahannele There are only 861 pregnancy related deaths per year, in the USA... making it a VERY small percentage, and nowhere near as dramatic as you're portraying it. Get real. The National Safety Council show that as many as 42,060 people are estimated to have died in motor vehicle crashes in 2020. Math doesn't seem to be your strong suit
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@eveliinahannele No, your failure to comprehend the stats is evident. The total number of pregnancy related deaths was Overall in 2020, there were almost 24 deaths per 100,000 births, or 861 deaths total — numbers that reflect mothers dying during pregnancy. Not a ratio-- Total number. Critical thinking seems to elude you. Data for United States in 2020. Number of births: 3,613,647. Like I said, it's not only rare, it's EXTREMELY rare
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@matt1325 It seems she was out to prove beyond any doubt that her shoe size dwarfs her IQ
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@eveliinahannele You wrote, "Say the one who didn't understand the concept of mortality rate, an official way to measure frequency of deaths in a populations, and how it's used" I literally quoted the total numbers of actual cases. The fact that you don't comprehend that is all on you babe. I can only post the facts for you-- I can't be expected to understand them 'FOR' you too. That's all on you and you're failing HARD You should quit while you're behind
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Slightly? They're advocates
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@Maksie0 Funny thing, you've refuted nothing whatsoever. I recommend in the future, be relevant
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@markusbaker1161 I don't see it as being rational. i challenged what you assert are facts with questions about the conclusions of those who you're putting your faith in, and why you believe they're correct, and you had no response but disingenuous antagonism, deflection, and playing the part of a fool. I am still open to having an intellectually sound, adult conversation with anyone interested, but you seem to instead prefer juvenile sparring sessions free from integrity. That's your choice, but it isn't conducive to a productive dialogue-- so that's where we're at. I reject your cult narrative and ideology.
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@markusbaker1161 Don't care about your opinion about the conclusions that some bought and paid for hacks came up with. Yes, it is. You fail to persuade
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@markusbaker1161 You've made it abundantly clear you don't care about anything anyone is saying, unless it's confirmation bias. i challenged what you assert are facts with questions about the conclusions those who you've put your faith in and asked why you believe they're correct, and you had no response but disingenuous antagonism, deflection, and playing the part of a fool. I am still open to having an intellectually sound, adult conversation with anyone interested, but you seem to instead prefer juvenile sparring sessions free from integrity. That's your choice, but it isn't conducive to a productive dialogue-- so that's where we're at.
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The arguments just don't withstand the scrutiny because life is based in reality, and the trans imagination just doesn't override people's capacity for discernment
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@Maksie0 The logic it takes to say that someone who has a host of other behavioral/mental disorders (as nearly all dealing with transgenderism do) and is willing to mutilate themselves in irreversible fashion to achieve a status wherein they're still dozens of times more likely to commit sui**de ISN'T mental illness, is amazingly twisted. Insert any other condition and any other incessant desire to self-harm and there would be no dispute whatsoever.
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@markusbaker1161 One doesn't need to be a doctor to read the stats. Educate yourself
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, there are. A systematic review of social stress and mental health among transgender and gender non-conforming people in the United States. (The title of one of the studies you say don't exist) Summary: In general, depressive symptoms, sui**dality, interpersonal trauma exposure, substance use disorders, anxiety, and general distress have been consistently elevated among TGNC adults
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@markusbaker1161 Your logic and your conclusions, are fatally flawed.
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@markusbaker1161 You bought into the narrative, making it your logic-- or rather lack thereof. The fact is, people are male or female. Their personality traits and temperament don't change that, making trans the social construct.
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@markusbaker1161 I know. Your confusion is clear darling. That you don't understand that people are not a social construct-- proves you don't understand much of anything
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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HA... Variability in personality traits and temperament are well established and neither is gender exclusive (Hence tomboys, effeminate males, and butch females). The trans-ideology is incoherent nonsense
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@mariec3733 Abortion is literally avoiding the consequence
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@mariec3733 There's one goal with abortion-- to terminate the life of an innocent child, so as to avoid the consequence of sex... ie. being the parent of a child.
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@mariec3733 Women absolutely can and do avoid unwanted pregnancies-- ALL the time. Option 1. Abstain, Option 2: Preventative birth control (The Pill, IUD, Condoms, etc., tubal ligation) 3. If a woman chooses to risk pregnancy, it's a self inflicted condition, when she becomes pregnant and she has no one but herself to blame and terminating the life of the innocent resulting child is doesn't justify her poor decisions
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@Maksie0 Considering the self-deletion rate-- it doesn't appear to be a very effective treatment
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@markusbaker1161 Look into it, if you're interested.
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@markusbaker1161 Your interest doesn't seem to be enough to look it up for yourself. Don't be lazy
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@markusbaker1161 Then you have some proving to do 1st. You claim trans women are women. Prove it
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@markusbaker1161 That's wrong. The law defines a woman as an adult, human, female. Science, and medicine has established the differences in physical characteristics between the sexes (Male, and Female). Monkeys can tell the difference between males and females. What's your excuse for your confusion on the matter? The prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. Your juvenile comments and inability to process facts indicates you're kinda slow. The only ones fooled, are you trans clowns and those who go along with your LARPing and cosplay-- which are the vast vast minority.
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@markusbaker1161 Bro, even a monkey can tell the difference between males and females. The only one fooled is you and yours-- which are the vast vast minority. Get a clue
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@markusbaker1161 That they reproduce is sufficient proof that they not only know the difference, but that they also know why the differences matter. You're welcome
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@markusbaker1161 Yes it is. Your failure to acknowledge it, just shows that you're kinda slow. You come across as an anarchist.
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If the truth offends you, you have an intellectual deficit and emotional control problems
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@SCALE.TIPPER The problem you have is that life is based in objective reality, which exposes your narratives, as intellectually vacant. Wishing life were different, doesn't make it so Choosing to call an apple an orange, doesn't alter the nature of an apple nor an orange. Your preferences re: s3xu@l matters don't alter whether or not you're male or female, and neither does choosing self mutil@tion or castration. The thing is, societies which have been long established, and steeped in tradition aren't obligated to abandon their established cultural norms to support a counter-culture ideology. To suggest that they owe it to you is the height of narcissism and arrogance. It's for YOU to integrate into the society which you choose to be in, not for them to change for you. Sheesh.... That sound you're hearing is the sound of rejection from the vast majority of the people on earth, of the trans-activist, ideological, cult narratives. Nobody owes you. Cope Harder
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IRRELEVANT!!! The activist ideology is anti-women. The feminists who go along to get along with this incoherent ideology will face a dystopian future where they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who say they're women too, and they don't even seat coming. smh
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@boobsmcgee5897 Being a woman is tied to being a female. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and addresses the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. You can pretend that a dump truck is a Ferrari if you want, but that just doesn't make it so
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@boobsmcgee5897 Evidence?
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Bathrooms are designed based on biology, not identity-- which is why typically men's rooms have urinals, no?. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@markusbaker1161 It was the focus of the OP, so I thought it appropriate to address it. Why not?
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@markusbaker1161 In my opinion, biology is the only relevant factor regarding restrooms distinctions. Criminals will be criminals, but making it easier for them to prey on their would be victims-- seems like a weak advocate argument
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@markusbaker1161 No, I am just considerate of the considerations of women
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, they can. I'm merely in solidarity with the women who don't want them in their private spaces. Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 That's not much of a refutation. I'm still correct... Like it or not
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@markusbaker1161 Coming from one who's arguing that men can become women; that opinion doesn't carry any significance. Carry on
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@markusbaker1161 According to a Swedish study, Long-term follow-up of transsexual persons undergoing sex reassignment surgery: cohort study in Sweden "Conclusions: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, sui***al behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."
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@fallengoat4896 If you need a study to help you figure out the differences between males and females, and to realize that the condition male/female is fixed and permanent-- You've got bigger problems to address
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@miraculousk7547 No, women aren't supporting them. That has nothing to do with misogyny
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@miraculousk7547 Funding? Fund it themselves, like men do. That's their problem. Why are men who forged their own leagues, supposed to figure out a way for women to do what they want?
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@jule3480 The entire trans ideology is pure incoherent madness.
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@markusbaker1161 Then we should abolish all affirmative action programs and laws based on race and gender?? :face-green-smiling::person-turqouise-waving::text-green-game-over:
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@krasmasov6852 Look, they can have a surgeon transform their appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek-- But it doesn't transform them into an actual Klingon. The same is true for gender surgery. They're mad because we don't see them as they see themselves, and we aren't falling for their disguise, or their incoherent explanations of their ideology... They don't accept themselves, so go through elaborate measures to transform their appearance into something they're not, and expect to be accepted for their disguise, as opposed to being accepted for who and what they really are. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect. That's It
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Really?? I can barely name a handful of conservatives in the movie industry
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Because males and females already have their own leagues
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@dragopistachio You find it difficult to focus on the macro topic?
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They're arguing fact vs fiction, and subjective feelings vs objective reality. The entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense.
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A woman is an adult, human, female. Womb not required
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You really don't discern a difference between teaching your own kids, vs pushing your ideology on other's kids? wow...
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@faisalkhan786fk It's TOTAL Intellectual bankruptcy. There are males and females, and there are minority segments of each which present with birth defects and various mental illnesses/psych disorders-- some with both. They aren't "trans" ANYTHING. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance and chemistry, as they are after.
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@faisalkhan786fk I really couldn't possibly care less about being accepted by morons
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@eveliinahannele Nope-- Women are totally in charge of choosing to engage in risky behavior-- or-- Not to engage in the behavior which leads to pregnancy. Be responsible for a change
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@freedommatters7677 Don't invite vampires into your home and you won't have to worry about vampires in your home
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@freedommatters7677 Once they've bitten you-- it's too late. Your analogy is fatally flawed. Get your tubes tied
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@robo_t Not even close. Being what you are doesn't require a diagnosis, treatment nor a costume change
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Correct. There are lots of women with no integrity or courage whatsoever
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@briannachilders772 You obviously don't know what that word 'bigot' means either. There's no hate involved in recognizing that they are not that which they claim to be. It's just an observation. The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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Not even then
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How so?
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Because they're M0r0ns
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@Maksie0 Says the guy who believes and promotes the absurd, ridiculous notion that men can become women. gfy
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Well, they aren't disconnected. Too many inappropriately conflate sex/gender (There are only 2--male/female) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), then they conflate that with gender roles (Which vary from culture to culture, country to country and society to society) BUT without exception, they ALL deal with the roles of males and females in those countries, cultures and societies. The trans-activist narratives operate as though sex/gender, personality and gender roles are synonymous, and they aren't
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@mariec3733 And you think men and women are equal? hmmm... they're not
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Using their subjective pronouns isn't something you'd do when having a direct communication. You'd use their name.
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@kat_152 I tend to use my friend's names. Don't you?
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@kat_152 Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology and it's intellectually vacant and morally bankrupt narratives-- In your near dystopian future, you'll be oppressed by men who will say they're women-- and you don't even see it coming. Sad testimony... Wake Up
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@Maksie0 Get real
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@Maksie0 All things considered, she really doesn't have to qualify it to people insisting on preferred pronoun usage of others.
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@markusbaker1161 No one asked you or maksie0... What are your credentials. You haven't established your own bona fides
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*He
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@nathanmccoy9188 Perhaps not, but they are still women
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The get it wrong on gender. Then, they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate males and females.
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If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity?
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Nonsense
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@lordwind9745 Your capacity for analysis, logic and reason seems stunted
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@lordwind9745 Yes... There are no trans humans. All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, preference, fetish, a subjective gender identity claim, nor a costume. A dude in a dress, claiming to be a woman is still a dude in a dress. Think deeper thoughts
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It was a debate dear.... Of course he has a say
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@lilnotmaster6094 It actually only takes her consent to make the avoidable, achievable. It's ALL on Her
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Regardless of the facts, an irrational thought process lacks the capacity to come to intelligent conclusions
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@mariec3733 No, I'm not. You're conflating personality with gender and gender roles
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@mariec3733 Gender-- there are 2 male and female. You got it totally wrong on gender. Gender refers to both the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Then, you conflate gender (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with personality traits and temperament. Then, you conflate science with science fiction and pseudo-science. Then, you conflate men and women, and males and females. Then, you conflate objective reality with subjective imagination. Your view is rejected by the majority of people. You better get used to it. Don't believe me-- ask Budweiser
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@jupiterfox7683 That sound is the sound of males and females everywhere rejecting your woke, activist, cult ideology, and terminology. You better get used to it
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Care to elaborate? Ignorant how? You should refute them, rather than just virtue signal
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Women are women and men are men-- regardless of how they self-identify, so using cis is redundant and none of anyone's concern but yours and the trans clowns you endorse. Cope harder
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Regarding people, they are male or female, respectively. That's it! Too many are incorrectly, and inappropriately discussing and confusing personality traits (which are not gender exclusive) and gender roles, which again-- are roles related to being male or female, respectively, with gender. Gender/Sex, there are 2 (Male and female). Personality traits and temperament-- there are a ton of variety. They're not synonymous. Learn the differences
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@TheLegendOfRandy You are are operating at .2 Fetterman's on the IQ scale
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@TheLegendOfRandy Stoopid isn't the new smart or cool. Do Better
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@TheLegendOfRandy The morals and ethics of those who would declare the innocent to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are those of narcissists and sociopaths. Are you a phone scammer too? You're about as credible
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@TheLegendOfRandy My reply is clearly visible. Feel free to take your own advise. You've been pwned and dismissed
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The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@frwful You seem triggered. Try decaf
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@frwful Short people aren't being recruited for the NBA en masse, for a reason. You've refuted nothing whatsoever. Any evidence for your claims about women not having equal access to ANYTHING?? 🦗🦗🦗
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@frwful Cope Harder! They're not restricted from daily life. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate.
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@frwful So that's a 'No'-- re: evidence to support your claims/assumptions? Got it! How did I know that? Amazing
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@frwful Why do you presume I wasn't talking about tea, or soft drinks? Think Deeper thoughts
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Crazy people often only hear the voices in their own heads.
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I'd call them dude, and let them know they aren't being very lady-like
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@nothanks1239 😏🥰😇 I believe in being nice, until it's time not to be nice too
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@BigDominoakaGerard Not it could... It does, and it's evident when you look at cycles of poverty and crime
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Yes, Activist trolls, and morons abound in the land of make believe
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@kricachula7546 Being trans is a psych issue, while intersex is a biological issue-- being the relevant, not so subtle difference-- that tragically seems to elude so many, leading them to deception, falling for the intellectual diarrhea that is the incoherent trans activist, cult ideology.
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“The truth has no defense against a fool determined to believe a lie.”
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I seriously doubt it
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@Maksie0 Cult-like reactionary whinging
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@mariec3733 You're confusing and conflating personality traits and temperament with gender roles and gender
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@mariec3733 The rest of your schtick, where you pretend I said the opposite of what I said and base narratives and conclusions around that is asinine and foolishness. I never claimed sex is a construct. You are the one conflating biological sex with social constructs, when you incorrectly claim that trans women (men) are women. Altering one's appearance doesn't change one's sex, and neither does one's imagination that they're the opposite sex. Not sure how you got that twisted, but now you know
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@Maksie0 Looks like you're trying to convince yourself of that.
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@Maksie0 Charm school reject. You say sex and gender are separate; making the point that one's subjective gender identity doesn't alter their biology. Referring to him as she is grammatically incorrect and absent any basis in reality. You first
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@mariec3733 Not sure why you are insisting, that's my argument. That is incorrect. You're conflating biological sex w/ social constructs when YOU say women (Biological) are trans women (Men playing the part of a woman-- social construct)-- Not me.
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@mariec3733 There's only real women who don't require the redundant prefix, and gender pretenders-- who insist on using it. That's how
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@mariec3733 Take your own advice when you're insisting it's MA'AM and you're replied to with, "whatever, sir", or "Get real dude". Sir and dude are addressing biology too
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And sports teams, scholarships, locker rooms, changing rooms, showers, and prisons too?
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@db6881 Are you funding it with your own funds, or do you plan to have those in state institutions known as asylums? The world doesn't owe them anything, and the vast majority reject that trans-activist ideological, cult narrative, so-- to pretend it does, is pure nonsense. Don't believe men, verify with Budweiser, Target, Disney and Mulvaney It's not for society to adapt for them. It's for them to find a way to integrate into society, which has already been long established. They're not the center of the universe. They're a tiny fraction of a minority.
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Show me someone who values life and advocates for the ability to terminate life, and I'll show you a hypocrite
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The Vast majority of parents reject the trans-activist ideology. There's nothing appropriate about having adult burlesque entertainment for children.
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That dude knows a lot of stuff, that just isn't so
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@hcos8139 It's not acceptable anywhere.
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Yup... Woe, to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology as in their near dystopian futures, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will calim to be women-- and they don't even see it coming. Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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The trans movement is unhinged from reality. What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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That's because they're activist-women, pretending to be men-- arguing against men, the way women argue.
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They're confuse science with science-fiction. Not a surprise that people with emotional and mental issues suffer with confusion
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The doctrines of evil, advocated by the fallen, who are of their father the Devil. There is no truth or grace in them.
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@lordwind9745 What??? When men vote to eliminate women's rights by insisting they themselves are women, and that women need to just be quiet and take it, -- It looks like the ultimate display of misogyny. Do you think women's showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, restrooms, sports leagues/teams, or prisons are designated as such based on a subjective gender identity claim, or perhaps it's based on biology? C'mon dude
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There's no legislation anywhere, which denies medical care for pregnant women, if/when their lives are in imminent peril. There isn't a middle ground for a meeting of the minds between those who have a moral foundation which values life-- and those who don't, then who go further and categorize it as disposable.
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They're catering to their intended audience, aimed at those who can be influenced by the Jedi mind trick.
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Would it ever get started? lol
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@petemiller2920 Even after transition, they have a self-termination rate nearly 10x' higher than the average-- It appears even after transition, they're still not happy. Most have several other emotional factors in play
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@markusbaker1161 According to a Swedish study, Long-term follow-up of transsexual persons undergoing sex reassignment surgery: cohort study in Sweden "Conclusions: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, sui***al behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."
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@markusbaker1161 What's preventing you from researching your interest and providing the answers to your own question?
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@markusbaker1161 Transgender youth more than 3 times as likely to attempt sui***e; Just a quick cursory search I found this for you. A new study by the CDC shows distressing numbers for transgender students."Trans students also showed significantly higher usage percentages of cocaine, heroin, ecstasy, inhalants and prescription opioids. Alcohol and marijuana use were also higher, though not as markedly. Some of the most distressing numbers for the study came in relation to sui***e. The study showed that 34.6 percent of trans students had attempted sui***e, almost 30 percentage points higher than cis males and 25 percent higher than cis females."
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@markusbaker1161 How are they outdated, if you can't find anything more current, which refute them? That seems to make them current. What am I missing there?
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@markusbaker1161 Because the medical professionals who did the studies are validating my point, that the numbers are much higher than they are with no trans issues-- and they also point to a host of other factors associated with those who do suffer with it. Your attempt to deny or invalidate the info isn't being presented w/ any citations of any data, to indicate otherwise. Burden of proof-- remember
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@markusbaker1161 There are none so blind, as those who would not see. You want to normalize and affirm those people, that they're fine... and you don't see the massive hole in the logic of that?
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@markusbaker1161 Of that, I have No doubt. Really?? Research the following: Urethral complications after gender reassignment surgery: a systematic review 32 studies were examined for a total of 3463 patients screened. Thirty-two studies met our inclusion criteria and were evaluated, and references were manually reviewed in order to include additional relevant studies in this review. Female-to-male (FtM) surgery and male-to-female (MtF) surgery was discussed in 23 and 10 studies, respectively. One study discussed both. Varying patterns of complications were observed in FtM and MtF surgeries, with increased complications in the former because of the larger size of the neourethra. Meatal stenosis is a particular concern in MtF surgery, with complication rates ranging from 4 to 40%, and usually require meatotomy for repair. Stricture and fistulization are frequently reported complications following FtM surgery. In studies reporting on fistulae involving the urethra, 19–54% of fistulae resolved spontaneously without further surgical intervention. High rates of complications are reported in the current literature, which should be understood by patients and practitioners alike. Shared decision making with patients regarding incidence and management of urethral complications including stricture disease and fistulae, particularly after FtM surgery, is critical for setting expectations and managing postoperative outcomes.
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@markusbaker1161 International Journal of Impotence Research is the source.
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@markusbaker1161 Cows aren't dragons... So what? You look like you're trying to be provocative and antagonistic, to satisfy an anti-social, attention-seeking disorder. They're men is a dress-- Not women. It's just as simple as that. Their claimed identities of being women, don't make them women. Those who identify as transgender are still men in cosplay, they're not any kind of woman. Your suggestion otherwise doesn't invalidate reality. They're still men, and suggesting otherwise totally absurd. They are not women, and shouldn't be infiltrating women's spaces like restrooms, sports teams, locker rooms or in prisons, because they're Men
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@markusbaker1161 You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and have not justified allowing men to infiltrate women's private places, because of their subjective identity claims. Why do you hate and disrespect women so much? Abandonment issues?
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@markusbaker1161 My observations regarding your comments are that you have not illustrated any respect for women and their private spaces by advocating in favor of men being allowed to infiltrate their spaces. Why, according to you-- should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim that they're women.
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Then they should pee in the men's room
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Well, through the prism of men can be women too-- how is it not true?
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@Maksie0 If your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must participate in your cosplay and deny reality-- then that identity isn't valid. Pretty simple
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He is! He's merely a caricature of what he wishes he was-- and will never be
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@safbae You're inappropriately confusing and conflating personality with gender
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@catorimazique8659 They aren't trans anything. They're LARPing
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@catorimazique8659 What? Your comment isn't much of a refutation. I clearly posted my thoughts on the matter
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Ethertask Sebastian Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then their identity is not valid.
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@edvt2316 I know. That's what I wrote. They will never be women
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You fail to realize and/or recognize that the exceptions to the rule don't invalidate the rule, they prove the rule-- hence being the exceptions. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect, or evidence that a psych evaluation commence immediately if not sooner. That's it! Men cannot become women, and women cannot become men. It's really not complicated at all
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@wulfiii1490 It's XX. XY, Birth Defect... That's it. They're trying to rename personality traits, "Gender", as if they're interchangeable. They're wrong. To ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where as a feminist-- You'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are women while they add to your competition in the workplace, take over women's sports, locker rooms, restrooms and showers, as well as in prisons. They're trying to turn womanhood into a costume that can be worn like a disguise. You'll see, and when they do-- don't say nobody told you
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Leftists: Everything I don't like must be banned and everything that I do like should be acceptable, tolerated, provided for and made possible by others
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Not all cultures are equal, compatible, nor desirable... That's why sovereign nations have borders
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Babylon rising
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@Cle-o Cis is a term used in chemistry having nothing to do with gender whatsoever. Get a clue
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@Cle-o It's a term used, so that men can pretend that there's another kind of woman, other than those born female-- despite the fact that there isn't. Also, the cis- prefix means "on this side". Todd Helmenstine In geometrical isomer nomenclature, the prefix cis- and trans- are used to identify which side of the double bond the similar atoms are found. The cis- prefix is from the Latin meaning "on this side". In this case, the chlorine atoms are on the same side of the carbon-carbon double bond.
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@mariec7352 You said, regarding the question do you value all life, that you think it's "only valuable if we make it just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of".. WTF?? Grow up. In your untenable Utopia, who would be the grown-ups providing your support, caring for you, insuring your 'happiness', and taking care of you-- when they're insisting you take care of them too? You sound insane
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@mariec7352 This is the Information Age, so stop pretending that women don't know what they were risking, when they chose to engage in the one and only act which causes their unwanted pregnancy. C'mon now... Women are not forced to have unprotected sex. If you/they want to chase pleasure, you/they have to bear responsibility for the possible outcomes. No innocent life should face termination because of the lack of responsibility among adults.
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Y’all need more psychiatric hospitals 😂😂😂
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Summary: They're not Trans ANYTHING. They're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after-- which means they're still men
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@yepitsjilly The ideological narratives are incoherent madness. A he cannot become a she in reality
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@mariec3733 It didn't seem to help you. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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Expecting rationality from delusional people isn't logical
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The vast majority reject the trans-activist ideological narrative, as the incoherent madness of those who are lost.
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Gender and biology are not separate things. The activist narrative is attempting to rename personality traits and disposition (which are not gender exclusive), 'Gender', and that's just wrong
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@__chinmay__ Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable... That's why sovereign nations have borders. Just saying...
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@__chinmay__ You believe that all cultures share that belief do you? Very naive
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@__chinmay__ You said, "no culture is superior". That's wrong, and conversely there are inferior cultures. Compared to what, is the question. The side of the fence you end up on is the one which defines and illustrates your core values, beliefs, and character.
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@__chinmay__ Like I said, Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable... That's why sovereign nations have borders
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About 40% of trans people self-delete even after transition, and studies show that approximately 80% have attempted self-deletion at some time in their life-- begging the questioning of the efficacy and ethics of the so-called-medical and psych professionals who advocate, prescribe and perform these procedures
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"It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@markusbaker1161 My friend-- You come across like a Middle Eastern Car Salesman w/ the ethics of a Call Scammer
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@markusbaker1161 How are they-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? And I asked, Why should those men who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria be granted access to women's private spaces? You got nuthin Blossom
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@ariana9941 All women are born female, all men are born male and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference or a costume. The level of anxiety they have about the reality of their biology, changes nothing whatsoever
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They're merely caricatures of what they wish they were
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You hear that??? It's the sound of men and women EVERYWHERE rejecting this incoherent ideology for the bull 💩that it is. Don't believe me? Ask Budweiser
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@Maksie0 Don't misgender him. In order to be correctly referred to as 'she', one would need to be communicating about a female-- and he is a male not a female. That sound you're hearing, is that of people everywhere rejecting your woke garbage.
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@ald6228 Sorry, if your identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality, and participate in your cosplay and LARPing to affirm your delusional sense of self-- your identity is invalid
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@ald6228 Those men aren't justified at all, in being granted access to women's spaces
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@ald6228 You're wrong, those men are not women
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@Charli-o1p To learn what the cult group think narratives are. I had a paranoid schizophrenic tell me that aliens are in direct contact with him and the other true heroes on the planet. Also that they communicate through fruit. I just nodded. Affirmation treatment protocols suggest that their delusion should've been affirmed as valid. Make it make sense
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Don't confuse respect, with courtesy or politeness, or compassion or anything else. Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is respectable.
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Not what I picture as the ideal date scenario
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Utopia is not for this place called reality, where people are flawed
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@euphka7687 Almost???
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I condemn the ethics of those who promote affirmation therapy, as the results are horrendous, evidenced by the stats showing the rate of self-termination even after surgeries
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@markusbaker1161 It's my opinion that they're horrendous. If you think the results are fine. Okay... Based on what?
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@mariec3733 Do you see above? It's my opinion that they're horrendous results from affirmation-based treatment protocols. If you think the results are fine. Okay... Based on what? Compared to what?
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@mariec3733 Why do you? The treatment you advocate doesn't stop them, according to the stats. They're the one's who choose that path in extremely high percentages, not me.
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@mariec3733 Intellectually bankrupt, and morally stunted is no way for you to go through life. I feel sorry for you
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@mariec3733 The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any virtue in any of your interactions. I pity you
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No it does not. Trillions in debt, w/ spending deficits
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@mariec3733 Move on... You fail to persuade
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@mariec3733 I don't know what to tell you. The replies are there, even when I'm logged out-- so I know you can see them
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@mariec3733 Not my problem. I'm not interested in persuading you-- Just exposing you as a troll
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If gender is fluid, and not biological-- Why the need/desire/proclivity to play dress up, or more drastically use surgical alterations, etc.? Aren't they already identifying as what they are? Ya, doesn't make sense The narrative suggests that gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity. Both can't be true, showing the narrative is incoherent
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@Maksie0 Look here troll, Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Gender and Personality-- learn the difference. The answer to your original question is that there's only one kind of woman, and they are all born females, so... using the cis prefix is totally redundant and unnecessary. Your entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. You completely get it wrong on gender. Then you conflate gender and personality. Then, you conflate gender and gender roles. Then, you conflate what women are with men. smh There are males and females. That's it! Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct. She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals specifically humans. Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1. Your body and brain develop & grow together -> You simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2. Hating a part of you body so much, that you cut it off, is a mental illness. I told you that you better get used to people rejecting your woke ideology.
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There were no women there.
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@briannachilders772 Nope, not even close. Some dude chopping off body parts doesn't become a woman
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@Maksie0 Women who are trans, according to your own ideology-- are trans men, so you're wrong. Congrats... Now you know and you know why
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No, I doubt it. When it comes to people and their priorities, their kids-- out rank whatever concerns for or priorities you think they ought to have re: the concerns of difficulty trans people may face
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@Maksie0 What's it to you? How many do you have, troll???
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@Maksie0 Your opinion is irrelevant. Cope Harder
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They insist that gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology. If that were the case, so is trans-gender. The 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female and those men aren't it. That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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*He
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Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@albertbloodstone5921 It appears that you'd prefer an echo chamber. Well, Cope Harder How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@albertbloodstone5921 What better advice to take than your own?
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@albertbloodstone5921 That explains it... You should've been paying more attention in science class.
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Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable That's why sovereign nations have borders Just sayin... Not everything is worthy of respect... ONLY that which is respectable is worthy of respect and the problem that they have with their virtue signaling is the absence of any actual 'virtue', in any of their unhinged whinging
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@WONS-SEPTUM It's a term used in chemistry, and has nothing whatsoever to do with gender. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the use of cis entirely useless and irrelevant, genius
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You and MANY others are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) with 'Gender'. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect, Psych Disorder... That's it!
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@celestejacobs7386 Doubt it... Yet, nonetheless, here you are, offering your comments as though they're valuable-- while failing to realize that your participation proves that life is worth living
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@celestejacobs7386 Well, you weren't-- so realize that life is what you make of it. If you hate it so much, tell it to your therapist. I'm not here to make you feel better or to participate in your grand delusions
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@ケノービ That's not much of a refutation. Care to elaborate?
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*He
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@ebrw8016 Still, he's a he.
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You can still avoid an unwanted pregnancies, with anti-abortion laws too... Women choosing to risk pregnancy, have nobody but themselves to blame for their choice and actions which result in their bodies becoming pregnant
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@krasmasov6852 They can identify as a 15' tall Bigfoot of the opposite sex too, but that isn't manifested into reality just because they have an active imagination either. The fact that the world doesn't view them as they view themselves, or how they would prefer that it views them-- isn't a problem the world needs to rectify 'For' them. Dressing up for a Comic-Con Convention doesn't actually transform human males or females into Wookies, or Klingons; Same for Drag Queens or 'Trans'-people either. Still XX, or XY
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@krasmasov6852 Here you are-- For those confused about pronouns: You don't get to choose the one's that others use, when speaking about you to someone else. 1st person pronouns are grouped into 5 categories: Subject pronouns 1st person "I", Object pronouns 1st person "Me", possessive adjectives 1st person "My", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Mine", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Myself" 2nd person: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourself" 3rd person (Male): Subject pronouns 3rd person "He", Object pronouns 3rd person "Him", possessive adjectives 3rd person "His", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "His", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Himself" 3rd person (Female): Subject pronouns 3rd person "She", Object pronouns 3rd person "Her", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Her", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Hers", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Herself" 3rd Thing: Subject pronouns 3rd thing "It", Object pronouns 3rd thing "It", possessive adjectives 3rd thing "Its", Possessive pronouns 3rd thing "Not Used", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd thing "Itself" 1st person plural: Subject pronouns "We", Object pronouns 1st person "Us", possessive adjectives 1st person "Our", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Ours", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Ourselves" 2nd person plural: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourselves" 3rd person and (thing) plural: Subject pronouns "They", Object pronouns "Them", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Their", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Theirs", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Themselves". Now stop embarrassing yourself.
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@darksideoftheroom3291 * He ;) There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female.
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@Maksie0 Your problem is that the world exists in objective reality, and the trans imagination just doesn't override the vast majority of people's capacity for discernment.
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@Maksie0 Why do you think there Is another kind of woman, other than those born female?
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@Maksie0 What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, costumes, or preferences. That you/they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's your/their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you/they wished they were.
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Where psychosis and ignorance collide, clarity is seldom found. Women cannot become men and vice versa. Those who are conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament with gender, are who need to get a grip on reality
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Watch the 'our' part. In, 'Their' society-- it's not even an endangered species, it's already extinct
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@charcoalgea2863 Guinea pigs can tell the difference between males and females. What's your excuse? Was it having half your brain removed in the transition surgery?
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@markusbaker1161 They reproduce. You're welcome
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@markusbaker1161 There is not any case of a trans woman being pregnant EVER. There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women, illustrating that your narrative is a totally bogus faith-based belief with zero evidence to support your claim that trans women are women. Checkmate / You lost
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@callum__w in utero surgery proves that notion false
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@mariec3733 What is a woman?
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@eveliinahannele Your car analogy illustrates that you're projecting again. A forced pregnancy is a rape. Consent to risk pregnancy isn't a rape, but it is a choice to engage in a risk
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@eveliinahannele Your car analogy is lame. If you're choosing to drive your car into a wall causing an intentional crash, you're entitled to choose to do that-- but I wouldn't recommend it, if you plan on keeping your car crash free. The same is true regarding choosing to risk impregnating your body. If you wish to remain without a pregnancy, choosing to risk it isn't very smart
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@miraislam5976 Intersex individuals are often infertile, and only ever present with genitalia found in the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species, and NONE with both being fully functional-- usually with one presenting as dominant. Not another gender. A physical disorder, not a psych issue
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@NoLefTurnUnStoned. Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1.) Your body and brain develop & grow together -> You simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2.) Hating a part of you body so much, that you cut it off, is a mental illness.
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@amyslahetka7873 Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh
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Gaslight harder.
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@mariec7352 Unborn children deserve bodily autonomy just like any other human being, and you seem to disagree. Why?
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@mariec7352 You keep making false claims about what I've written, and you incorrectly quote me and credit me with things I've never written. You fail to cite any thread with the name of the thread poster and/or refer to how long ago I supposedly wrote what you allege. Unborn children deserve bodily autonomy, just like any other human being, and you seem to disagree. The mother's life is not more important than the life she created, so she shouldn't be able to terminate her offspring. We definitely disagree.
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@mariec7352 You believe then, that not all women deserve bodily autonomy since they're not making the baby's life "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of"????
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@mariec7352 How is someone who's life isn't valuable (According to you) deserving of anything?
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@mariec7352 I don't expect you to admit to the truth, as you've lied about things I've said many many times, and the comments are all there to validate what I'm saying. I mean it isn't as if you haven't proven that you argue and agitate at every opportunity for sport, while disingenuously engaging in what I'd compare to a phone scammer's ethics, with a politician's evasiveness, failing to ever directly answer a question honestly. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Just pointing out the incoherent things you've said-- and you are desperate to avoid it-- The truth is not subject to your admission, nor your denial. You writing that not all lives are valuable, qualifying-- "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of" (in other words) unless they are sufficiently charitable to a level of your satisfaction, is patently absurd and the amount of ego behind that is unreal. Your narcissism is off-the-hook.
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@briannachilders772 Not even close. You still seem to be inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament as though they're synonymous with gender, and they aren't
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@markusbaker1161 prove you're not a m0r0n
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@markusbaker1161 Your inability to decipher the differences between men and women, or to distinguish that a trans woman is still a male-- regardless of you changing what you call them indicate your shoe size dwarfs your IQ
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@markusbaker1161 I don't know what "individual transfer" rights are. I recognize them, but as men who've chosen to make themselves a caricature of the women they wish they could be. I didn't make them do that. You appear triggered, that I'm not fooled by their disguises, and that I recognize that they're still men, but with a quirky fashion sense, some of whom who've had plastic surgery-- and that regardless of you calling them trans-women, I recognize that they're still men. Like I said, the 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female-- and those men aren't that. Hope that clarifies it for you
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Indeed. Men dressing up like women and infiltrating their sports, locker rooms, dressing rooms, and in prisons puts women at a MASSIVE disadvantage
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Yes, the ideology is incoherent.
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Yup... Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. All they're doing is altering their appearance and body chemistry. They're not 'Trans' ANYTHING whatsoever. Their the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after.
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;) The narrative is entirely incoherent
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They're still women. If gender is disconnected from biology, why the need to transition-- biologically? If a girl, trapped in a boys body-- has an immutable male identity, how is it that gender is fluid? It seems like they're trying to re-name personality traits "Gender" and that's wrong too
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@thecolorblue1635 You should try being relevant. The internet can be used for more than porn and trolling. You should try it
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There's already enough idiocy in the world. The upside is they won't be reproducing much
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@markusbaker1161 Illustrating the difference between possibility and probability, though it's still a 50/50 shot that they'll not off themselves-- so I lean toward the not probable. No doubt that you don't care
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What??? Neither your anxiety about reality, your personality, your preferences, nor your fashion choices change your gender, and I suppose that might bug a group of guys pretending to be Cinderella for attention, but sometimes the truth stings. All women are born female, all men are born male (ZERO exceptions), and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, personality, or a costume. Now you know better. You're Welcome
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Where psychosis and ignorance collide. Women cannot become men and men cannot become women. Oh ya-- intersex is a birth defect, not another gender-- of which there are only 2. Quit conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament with gender-- it's just incorrect
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@mariec3733 You are confused
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@Maksie0 You're going to stop trolling? Say it isn't so
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@mariec3733 I reject the entire narrative you're peddling
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@mariec3733 You're rambling nonsense again
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@mariec3733 I reject your words and narrative, and assertions about what I've written.
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@mariec3733 Your attempt to paint a false narrative about what I wrote is patently absurd, as my statements are still actually viewable. I don't take you seriously, and reject your cult narrative entirely. Men cannot become women, and vice versa. It's really simple. Gender-- There are 2 (male and female). The social aspects of gender being male and female-- are gender roles, which you're conflating with gender, personality traits and temperament.
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They're self-entitled narcissists who fail to grasp the fact that the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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Those delusional women pretending to be men, and getting upset at not being recognized for their preferred disguise vs who and what they actually are, is what's funny to me
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They need to also understand that even if it did, they're still the same sex as they were when they were born. That state is permanent
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@markusbaker1161 The construct you're referring to, doesn't change reality
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@markusbaker1161 Nope. Still male or female-- same as they ever were. I'm not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that I can promote make believe, or cater to feelings. NO! Just... No They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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@markusbaker1161 Still male or female, regardless of you calling them by another name
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@markusbaker1161 The subject has always been about males and females. Your failure to comprehend or acknowledge that changes nothing. Gender roles are what you're talking about, and they're well-established. Gender pretenders are still merely male or female, respectively
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@markusbaker1161 There's one prerequisite to being a woman and womanhood, and that's being female-- and the subject illustrates that trans-women are Not that. Cry about it and stomp your feet if you must. It changes nothing
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@markusbaker1161 HAHAHAHAH :face-blue-smiling::face-turquoise-covering-eyes:🤣And you believe that nonsense?
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@markusbaker1161 It was rhetorical. I couldn't care less what you believe
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@markusbaker1161 Is that what you believe?
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@markusbaker1161 I don't. I'm not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that I can promote make believe, or cater to feelings by pretending I don't recognize that they aren't that which they present themselves as. They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not trying to convince you of anything. It isn't the rest of society that's needing to be accommodated or to give any consideration to you about your preferred pronouns, or subjective ideas which are based in fantasy vs reality-- where your claims are rejected because they're objectively false.
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@markusbaker1161 :face-turquoise-drinking-coffee::face-turquoise-covering-eyes::face-blue-smiling::face-green-smiling::text-green-game-over:🤡
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@markusbaker1161 Blossom, is that you again?
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@markusbaker1161 Looks more like I'm living rent free-- in Your head, stalker
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@markusbaker1161 You just can't seem to stop yourself from trying to get more attention from me. Looks like you have an impulse control problem
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@jayla808 There's no debate about XX and XY chromosomes existing and what they do, and there aren't any studies anywhere proving that trans--women aren't biological males. So YOU prove they have any business being in women's private spaces. Justify it.
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@desi_feminist84 It's an error to think that the parent's culture, regardless of location-- isn't a factor in their interpersonal relationships, children and child rearing especially -- included, as it goes to matters of 'respect'. Not all cultures are equal, Compatible, nor Desirable-- That's why sovereign nations have borders. Parents who teach their children disrespectful behavior, by showing their children their disrespectful behavior in many various forms not limited to verbal and physical abuse are creating a dark legacy for themselves and are putting their children at a great disadvantage-- but the point is, there's nothing respectable in that situation either. My point stands. Respect is earned, not demanded, and it must be realized that it's reciprocal. We learn it OR not-- from our parents
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@CreativeUsernameEh If gender and biology are not connected, why bother with the transition and indulge in costume changes to appear different-- if they're already identifying as 'other than' XX or XY?
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@NatalieÅrnorienne I had a paranoid schizophrenic tell me that aliens are in direct contact with him and the other true heroes on the planet. Also that they communicate through fruit. I just nodded. Affirmation treatment protocols suggest that their delusion should've been affirmed as valid. Make it make sense
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I won't... Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@freedommatters7677 Don't want to get pregnant... Don't risk engaging in risky behavior. It's not complicated. There is no such scenario where life is risk free
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@conor.3875 No it isn't. Abortion is the forced delivery, of a baby who's life has been terminated
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@OdyNotebook Then that's a rape, and a violent crime. Is a child's life less valuable, if one or both of their parents is bad?
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@conor.3875 A more balanced counter-perspective to the argument that several have presented, as though it's men's fault
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@conor.3875 I'm not trying to do anything. I am merely making the observation that women are the one's who choose to risk themselves getting pregnant, and that the power to avoid an unwanted pregnancy is ALL up to them. How is that not totally accurate?
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@cadafamily Not only that... They fail to take into consideration that males get aborted too.
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@mariec3733 and what? There doesn't need to be any more, to show examples of them being wrong.
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@mariec3733 Men aren't aborted. durrr
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@mariec3733 Men and women are adults. Adults aren't who are aborted.
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@mariec3733 Those condemning affirmation therapy as a means of treatment, who don't reside in your activist snow globe of a world, citing the horrible percentage of self deletion despite their treatments. Those medical experts
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Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. They're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after. They aren't trans anything
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@mariec3733 The 5 D's of Dodgeball: Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive and Dodge-- anything but the kryptonite which is personal responsibility for your own actions. Don't want a baby growing inside you-- quit putting them in there. It's not complicated
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One could alter their appearance to look like a Klingon if they choose, and it doesn't actually make them a Klingon, and those who think it does are delusional. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Thoughts??
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@russ7009 I should have been more specific. I was hoping for intelligent thoughts. If you want to call me trans-phobic-- I really couldn't care less. There's no there-- there. You can rename men 'trans', and it changes nothing but the name. It doesn't change them or make them women, or illustrate that they're trans anything. How does advocating in favor of men infiltrating women's private spaces, show any respect or consideration for women and their private spaces??? Why, according to you-- should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim that they're women.
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And Vice versa
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Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then your identity is not valid.
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@ItsSchwifty Not a fan of progressivism nor socialism. The smallest minority, is after all-- the individual
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@Maksie0 No-- You are the ignorant one
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That's incorrect.
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@stinkygremlin267 And those genetic anomalies are birth defects, not other genders
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@stinkygremlin267 That's not another gender. It's a birth defect. The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule-- they prove it, by being the exceptions
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Don't conflate temperament and personality traits w/ gender. They're not synonymous.
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@LunnaJannah Cope and seethe harder... There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females. Now you know
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Defining 'Need' is your biggest hurdle
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In a special ward, in their asylum
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@brianwebberable Oh relax... The comment is clearly intended as mockery.
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@brianwebberable You look triggered. I just laugh at your confused, indoctrination. You look and sound ridiculous. There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are, so Cope Harder
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It doesn't alleviate the exponentially higher rates of self-deletes, which begs questioning the efficacy of affirmation-based treatment protocols
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@dariusmcfarter6105 Bottom line, trans women are men with issues pretending that they're women without issues. They're-- Men Be careful not to conflate some lame survey's as science. There's a Swedish study and there are US studies. Just gotta weed through the activist swill
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Rather than signal virtueless virtue signals, how about instead, say something substantive? They call men toxic, but when those men call out their toxic female empowerment, then the females label the men bigots and sexists.
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@krasmasov6852 No they have not. Unless you're going with mythological creatures like Baphomet. The trans-activist ideology is attempting to rename Personality traits and temperament which are not gender exclusive,, "Gender" and that's just incorrect
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That's the understatement of the decade. That dude is emotionally, spiritually, and intellectually unhinged
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@markusbaker1161 There is only one kind of woman, and as it turns out the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. It's not a costume men can put on and take off, and it's not a personality quirk that you continue to conflate with gender
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@Ey3_s0cEt.4.20. Not how that works. If it was, there would be no need to "transition". Stoopid isn't the new smart. Up your game
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@Ey3_s0cEt.4.20. That sound is the sound of men and women rejecting your woke trans activist ideology and terminology. Don't believe me? Budweiser called and said to tell you that you're full of 💩
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Woe to the feminists who buy into this ideology, as in their near dystopian futures, they will be oppressed by tyrannical men, who claim to be women. They're inappropriately conflating personality and gender, and it's causing them a lot of confusion
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@eee_ssa Evidence???
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@urmomspussyhair :face-blue-smiling: Nope... Never will be
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@amani7753 Then, stay TF out of women's private spaces. Your imagination doesn't make you a woman
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Dude is a dude, is a dude... They aren't 'trans' anything whatsoever. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@ericawalton1236 That didn't answer my question
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@mariec3733 How come you fail to recognize the autonomy of the child's body-- that the mother created with her choice to engage in the one and only act which causes the unwanted pregnancy?
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@mariec7352 Glad to hear that you have no desire for abortions to occur. I agree, but I believe in body autonomy for all humans, including babies. Why don't you?
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@mariec7352 No, I said once she gets pregnant, the baby's body autonomy comes into play and your failure to recognize the body autonomy of the baby as relevant, is illustrating the incoherence of your argument.
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They confuse and conflate gender/sex with gender roles and personality traits and temperament, as though they're all synonymous-- leading them to all sorts of intellectually unsound conclusions, because they're Not
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Why, according to you-- should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim that they're women.
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@markusbaker1161 Anyone with an answer will do.
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@markusbaker1161 That's for me, not you-- to decide. It is after all, my question. MY standing answer is, it is in no way reasonable, rational, nor justifiable-- and no one has provided any reasoning behind the notion of granting men access to women's spaces, because of 'Feelings' or some such nonsense.
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@markusbaker1161 You're not even from my country, but don't you worry about me and where I live or how I vote to effect changes in laws. You do you
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@markusbaker1161 Magic
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@markusbaker1161 I never brought up religious beliefs. It was you spelling color colour that was the indicator to me
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@markusbaker1161 In the USA we don't spell color, colour. Looks like a YOU problem, regarding all religions worldwide from here
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@markusbaker1161 I know. The question you asked was how do I know you're not from my country, and the spelling you used was the indicator that you're not from the USA. I wasn't challenging the meaning. Try reading slower next time to avoid looking ridiculous-- Again
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Yet, their self-delete rates are WAY WAY higher than the general population.
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@rowan6021 Use yours... You just said they now feel safer to come out, to justify the higher self delete rates? Looking back in history, you don't see the huge number of self-deletes that you do now-- So... you seem to have a problem with critical thinking and analysis.
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Men can't be ANY kind of woman, weak or strong
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@Morocco_illuminati Sad truth is there aren't enough asylums to provide a safe environment for their therapeutic learning to commence.
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@Morocco_illuminati The wheat and the tares, the seed of the serpent vs the seed of the woman, those who's names were not found written in the Book of Life vs those who's names are blotted out of the Book of Life. I get it
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@Morocco_illuminati Talk to your bible study leader for clarification.This isn't the place
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@markusbaker1161 I have some very cool trans friends. They agree with me. Of course, they still like girls and do it to get girls, as hilarious as that is in itself-- your commentary never touched on anything relevant, so believe what you will. Turning off notifications for this video, so you'll have to find someone else to play with
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@SlongestKongest How should I know? I can't see any of your other comments but the one I'm responding to. That's why I was asking chiquitaspeaks to clarify what THEY meant, and to clarify what is that they believe you don't get.
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@SlongestKongest We're cool. 😄 It happens. True gender dysphoria is very rare, and I believe the trans-activist ideology and narratives are inappropriately grouping trans people, who are merely unapologetically embracing and indulging their perversions-- under the gender dysphoria umbrella. It's disingenuous at BEST Liberals want to give your children hormone blockers, inject them with poison, shame them for their skin color, teach them to be gay, allow them to be groomed by pedophiles and give control of them over to the state. The sad part is that I don't have to exaggerate these claims. They openly support this evil. You are watching the death spiral of the Democratic party.
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E X A C T L Y Correct
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@mr.mclibtard5015 No doubt these bozos would suggest affirmation protocols would be appropriate as a treatment for that too
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@mr.mclibtard5015 They inappropriately conflate gender and sex. Then they inappropriately conflate gender and gender roles. Then they inappropriately conflate personality traits and temperament with gender. Ya, it's absurd. They fail to realize that if their identity relies upon the participation of others denying objective reality-- that those identities are invalid.
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Throughout history they have always related back to male and female-- which are permanent biological states. The trans-activist ideology inappropriately conflates the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence LGB, effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender-- and that's just incorrect leading to faulty reasoning and conclusions
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@nathanmccoy9188 It's arrogant and narcissistic to expect that random strangers ought to give a crap about whether of not you're comfortable. When you have no problem making them uncomfortable by pretending to be that which you are not while insisting that they view you as you view yourself, event though that's not how they view you-- is asinine. If it doesn't matter, why insist that the world exchange it's language choices for Your preferences?
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@nathanmccoy9188 Rules for thee and not for me doesn't work. Sorry babe The comfort of people 'just trying to exist' and while doing it, pretend that a lie is truth-- insisting that your feelings are at risk if your delusions aren't affirmed by random strangers vs People calling it like it is, and you choosing to be offended because they won't allow you to control their speech or powers of observation is an EASY choice. When you walk around looking to be agitated, everyone is an agitator! I identify as someone who doesn't have to indulge the transgender fantasies of the mentally ill, and when you insist that I do-- it makes me uncomfortable, and you have no problem with that, making your insistence that anyone should give a crap about you being comfortable-- hypocritical
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@nathanmccoy9188 Nonsense. What you're doing is called, projection. Your intolerance for yourself, and those who recognize you for what you are is YOU-- leveling intolerance against everyone else. How do you figure, being that gender dysphoria is such an extremely rare condition-- when compared to the rest of the vast majority of the human population which makes up humanity? 🦗🦗🦗
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@nathanmccoy9188 Tell it to your therapist. Gender Dysphoria case numbers are a matter of record, and it is EXTREMELY rare, according to the data. The 'Because you said so' standard has been issued zero credibility, sorry you seem to believe otherwise. You, pretending to be that which you are not, and admittedly know you are not-- and expecting anyone else to go along is absurd to compare to living a life in the closet. You think nobody knows? smh It's XX, XY, Birth Defect. Like I said, you could have a plastic surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, but it doesn't make you a Klingon
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@Quizoid Looks like you're conflating gender and gender roles with personality traits and temperament.
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That's the sort of comment that seems designed to prove one's IQ to be dwarfed by their shoe size
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You don't get to terminate people's lives because they're poor. There is no such thing as a life free from adversity. C'mon
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@karlas4446 Try being relevant
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@blahajlife8259 And they are not an example of another gender invalidating the binary anymore than someone born with one arm serves as an example of a norm in human development.
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@GratsielaLily He's not any kind of woman. To be a woman, one must 1st be born female, and that dude wasn't
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Cause and affect elude their tiny brains
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@xx3931 That makes you a sociopath
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The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. They're merely caricatures of what they 'WISH' they were and can never be One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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And it's clearly blurry
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@anniebananie416 I absolutely agree. Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will say they're women... And they don't even see it coming. I don't get it I mean, Gender and sex aren't disconnected. Gender is NOT a social construct. Gender roles are the social constructs and they're well-established, which is why the counter-culture trans-narrative is itself the real construct and they seem unable to process that distinction. Their inability to process the truth of it, doesn't invalidate the truth. I'm not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that I can promote make believe, or cater to feelings. NO! Just... No They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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They have the autonomy not to risk pregnancy and not to use abortion as birth control, in the name of convenience. Don't they?
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@freedommatters7677 Source??
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@mariec3733 That isn't a refutation for ANY of my comments
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@mariec3733 Nonsense. There are a lot of responses which you've failed to respond to. Regarding body autonomy and mandatory vaccine mandates, where do you stand?
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@freedommatters7677 Do you have a link a source about that story? That's interesting. I haven't heard that one
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@markusbaker1161 Why do you presume I'm angry? I'm just observant of the fact that they are not that which they claim to be, or as they present themselves.
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@markusbaker1161 Perhaps it's just an honest mistake, on your part.
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@markusbaker1161 Well, then it is a dishonest mistake. Either way, not angry. Just observant and unrefuted
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That dude is unhinged from reality
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It won't matter... They're still men, and their subjective identity doesn't change that
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Recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim, merely makes one observant. The subjective self-identities of the whacko's of the world, creates no obligation for anyone to deny objective reality, in favor of their delusional self-perceptions, and when they continue to refer to women as cis, after being made aware that it offends them-- they have no room to insist on respect in return
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@Itslanee How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@mariec3733 Using pronouns correctly isn't derogatory either, so relax
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No, but being overly-emotional is
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@harrys_beans Technically yes, and actually-- Yes again. Women are generally more emotionally reactive than men.
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@Maksie0 How are you so confused, not realizing that all women are born female, illustrates that using the trans/cis prefixes is useless, and intellectually vacant??
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, pub med. It is a worthy research topic. Let me know what you find out. I can't be expected to do all your research for you. Either way, there are your doctors agreeing with my assertion that the treatment isn't effective enough to avoid such tragic results
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Advocating for sacrificing the lives of children, in the name of convenience, on the altar of Baal and Moloch is reprehensible. You will be held accountable
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@markusbaker1161 The fact that you're unaware of the stats or articles about something doesn't make it non-existent. I'm not arguing that they shouldn't be allowed because of predatory behavior. I'm opposed because men already have their own spaces, as do women-- and I support women continuing to have their own spaces. Why don't you??
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@markusbaker1161 Oh well, it's not my job to cure your ignorance. You look like you have a problem with women having their own private spaces, free from men, trans or otherwise
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@markusbaker1161 Trans women are men, who've merely altered their appearance. If you have any evidence to the contrary-- post it, or quit whining
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@markusbaker1161 Changing what you call something, doesn't change the thing into something else. Only the name changes. Take your time to process reality
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@markusbaker1161 It doesn't matter. Your acceptance and understanding aren't required
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@markusbaker1161 On that note,just know that in the future, when you insist on your preferred pronouns-- Expect the, "I don't care, nothing you say matters" response will be delivered with a smile and a dismissal. Kick Rocks
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Nonetheless, once a male... always a male. Wishing life were different, changes nothing. The problem you have is that life is based in objective reality, which exposes your narratives, as intellectually vacant. Choosing to call an apple an orange, doesn't alter the nature of an apple nor an orange. Your preferences re: s3xu@l matters don't alter whether or not you're male or female, and neither does choosing self mutil@tion or castration. The thing is, societies which have been long established, and are steeped in tradition, aren't obligated to abandon their established cultural norms to support a counter-culture ideology. To suggest that they owe it to you to deny objective reality, and participate in the grand delusion, LARP and cosplay is the height of narcissism and arrogance.
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@jasminegates-cr5hg I think it'd be a better spot for the preferred trans restrooms
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So? Still men, presenting as the stereotypical, sexist caricatures of that which they are not, and can never be-- ie. Women
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Imagine if the activists for the whole animal rights movement would stand up for the rights of unborn humans, the same way they stand up for animal's and their offspring's rights.
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Because NO ONE would watch
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@Maksie0 I don't watch the Special Olympics either
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@pawlaovicto7824 Well, that didn't answer the question. The problem with your virtue signaling, is the absence of any actual virtue.
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Correct... It's those who are overly-emotionally reactive, and often times inappropriately so-- where the nuance comes into focus, for those with eyes to see and a functional capacity for analytical observation and arriving at intelligent concusions
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One wouldn't use pronouns when talking directly to anyone. You use them when talking about someone to others. It's ludicrous
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@eyesonly1638 These people are nuts
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@graceful1537 Because, there is only one kind of woman and you're ALL born female, making the 'cis' prefix entirely irrelevant and useless
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@gudemeneely Nonetheless, they're not the sex with which they portray or identify
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@krasmasov6852 Says the individual who can't identify what a woman is. HILARIOUS
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"It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".--T. Sowell
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That dude is koo koo for cocoa puffs
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There is no such thing as a life free from adversity Women who facilitate their totally avoidable unwanted pregnancy's, by engaging in the one and only act which causes their dilemma have no one but themselves to blame. Own it! They're the one's facilitating everything that you listed I'll try to break it down for you... Life is valuable, not disposable, and advocating in favor of terminating children is devoid of virtue, honor, and morality. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one of a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences? 🦗🦗🦗 Innocent baby's shouldn't be terminated because adults can't act responsibly
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@targaryen7049 The final say on whether or not women are willing to risk themselves getting pregnant, when facilitating it-- is on women-- and that is why they have no one to blame but themselves for their avoidable self-inflicted dilemmas. DUH, to those with a functioning prefrontal cortex... What's your excuse for failing to comprehend the cause and affect of the situation?? How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one driven like a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences?
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More like 0 (sex)+0 (pregnancy)= 0 (Unwanted pregnancy's)
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:face-green-smiling: Hilarious! That dude's shoe size dwarfs his IQ
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@samir.pradhan 'They' are a group of men, pretending they're not
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That dude's shoe size dwarfs his IQ. 85 seems way too high
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@lizzyhull4962 Personality traits and temperament aren't gender exclusive, so what are you talking about? Using your definition, trans men ie. women-- are now exhibiting toxic masculinity
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@Maksie0 That doesn't prove anything she said was incorrect
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الأشخاص غير المتوازنين نفسيا يفعلون كل أنواع الأشياء التي تتحدى العقلانية Psychologically unbalanced people do all sorts of things that defy rationality
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Too bad it's not well-known, that one doesn't have to 'feel' any particular way about a controversial topic, to identify the controversies surrounding the topic, and/or to simultaneously identify the pros and cons of the the arguments on each side of the debate.
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Quit conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. It only highlights your ignorance and denial of reality
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How do you figure? Your political view is a result of what you like and/or don't like
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The truth has no defense against a fool determined to believe a lie.
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There is really no such thing as a 'normal' trans youth experience, is there?? There are males (boys/men), and females (girls/women) that's it. A woman isn't a social construct or a costume. Too many conflate personality (There are a ton of different personality traits-- NONE are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender (There are 2 male/female) and gender roles (They vary from culture to culture, society to society and internationally-- and those have been long-established)
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:face-blue-smiling:🤣
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@markusbaker1161 Go read the studies, I provided you already, and see the light
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@markusbaker1161 Sucks to be you then. I told you the name of the study and the location. Maybe your mom can help you
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@markusbaker1161 I told you to search for su***dality among transgender youth. Quit capping
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@markusbaker1161 You're the one interested... Do some research. Do you rely on your mom to cut your food too? What does the abstract of that study tell you?
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@markusbaker1161 What does it say about the rates? What do you think about those rates-- in terms of how they reflect upon the effectiveness of the affirmative treatment results? It doesn't require a degree, just some common sense, reasoning, and the capacity to apply intelligent analysis.
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@markusbaker1161 Did you read it?
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@markusbaker1161 Any of them? Which ones?
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@markusbaker1161 Go read this one: Trends in sui**de de*th risk in transgender people: results from the Amsterdam Cohort of Gender Dysphoria study (1972-2017)
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Half the panel are women
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Using preferred pronouns is a choice, reserved for the speaker, not the listener
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@morningivy9006 Respect is earned, and reserved for that which is respectable. It's not something you are obligated to provide. I wouldn't, and I wouldn't respect some hairy dude in a dress screaming, "It's MA'AM" and be obligated to respect him for being a delusional emotional wreck, and I wouldn't call him by a preferred pronoun-- that's clearly not based in reality.
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@Maksie0 Yup
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Why should women have the choice to terminate the lives of the innocent?
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@CharaDreemurrfan No, that doesn't justify it, unless the pregnancy is putting the mother's life in imminent peril. They knew they were risking pregnancy when choosing to engage in the one and only act which causes it, and probably shouldn't have been fooling around if their body's weren't ready for it.
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@mariec7352 That's why casually dealing with and engaging in sex is a bad plan, for those who aren't prepared to deal with the consequences of their actions.
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@mariec7352 And what of the body autonomy, of the life that the mother created-- the moment she got herself pregnant?
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@mariec7352 ~
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@mariec3733 How come you fail to recognize the autonomy of the child's body-- that the mother created with her choice to engage in the one and only act which causes the unwanted pregnancy?
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Yeah, there's something seriously wrong with That. If we truly value human life, then we would never ever attempt to justify abortion in circumstances where the mother's life isn't at risk. Period. Its not a debate
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@mariec3733 No you don't. You fail to recognize the body autonomy of the unborn
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@mariec3733 You're a liar. You don't recognize the body autonomy of the child.
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@mariec7352 You said, not all lives are valuable since they're not making the life "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of". It follows that you believe not all women would or should then deserve bodily autonomy, since they're not making the baby's life "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of"???
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@mariec7352 When asked by HK 4lyfe if you believe all life is valuable -- you said, "All human life? Definitely not. Lol. Have you seen the world lately? I think it's only valuable if we make it just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of than we do to simply enforce more births, which we do not." No worries. I don't expect you to admit to the truth, as you've lied about things you've said, and about things you've alleged I've said many many times, and the comments are all there to validate what I'm saying. I mean it isn't as if you haven't proven that you argue and agitate at every opportunity for sport, while disingenuously engaging in what I'd compare to a phone scammer's ethics, with a politician's evasiveness, failing to ever directly answer a question honestly. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Just pointing out the incoherent things you've said-- and you are desperate to avoid it-- The truth is not subject to your admission, nor your denial. You writing that not all lives are valuable, qualifying-- "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of" (in other words) unless they are sufficiently charitable to a level of your satisfaction, is patently absurd and the amount of ego behind that is unreal. Your narcissism is off-the-hook.
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@mariec7352 That's not a refutation, and accusing me of doing what you've been doing is WEAK. Kick Rocks Troll
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That dude's shoe size dwarfs his IQ
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They're self-entitled, narcissistic, sociopaths w/ emotional problems--
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@nonstickbrute7941 There's a clear difference between males and females. If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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@markusbaker1161 That's exactly my response-- when watching some unhinged dude in a dress, w/ makeup and a 5 o'clock shadow, exhibiting ZERO impulse control, screaming, "It's MA'AM".
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@Maksie0 No, not even close. Women who are trans-- are trans men.
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@charcoalgea2863 Nope... Never will be. They're men presenting as women-- still men
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@charcoalgea2863 Monkeys have no problem deciphering the differences between males and females. What's your excuse??
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@wisefries4205 Don't conflate gender (There are 2 male/female... That's it) with personality and temperament (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) as though they're synonymous. They're not Gender roles vary from country to country, society to society and culture to culture-- BUT, they all refer to the social aspects of being male or female, respectively... FULL Stop... within those countries, societies and cultures, which have long-established their societal 'norms', steeped in history and tradition.
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So how would that work if race was an added component to the gender debate?? A white male insisting that they identify as a black female... That sort of thing?? That would be equally detached from reality
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@jaderichardson6461 Yet, when the questions get to illustrating incoherence in your narrative, the typical reaction is to shout, name call, deflect, ignore, censor, and mock... Not a winning strategy, if 'Not alienating them' were the actual goal.
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@krasmasov6852 Then, remember that-- the next time someone who isn't persuaded doesn't use your preferred pronouns, and suck-it-up Buttercup
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@TheLegendOfRandy You two are ridiculous
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@mariec3733 All of your nonsense, trolling and stalking just to attempt to pretend a woman doesn't have any culpability for their choices to risk pregnancy, as if they had no control to avoid an unwanted pregnancy (Obviously not talking about a rape). What's up with that?
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@mariec3733 There is no escaping the culpability that women have, regarding their choices to risk their body's getting pregnant, and the efforts to pretend that they have no power to avoid the avoidable, and any responsibility to avoid the avoidable-- are in vain. Furthermore, why presume that men have the same concerns about a woman's choice to risk getting pregnant? A smart woman would look at the single motherhood rate and factor that in to her choices and considerations regarding how concerned men are about women getting pregnant. Now, Be Gone
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The problems they have with their virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual virtue in any of their unhinged whinging. They're Intellectually Disenfranchised and Morally Bankrupt. They're mad because we don't see them as they see themselves, and we aren't falling for their disguise, or their incoherent explanations of their ideology... They don't accept themselves, so go through elaborate measures to transform their appearance into something they're not, and expect to be accepted for their disguise, as opposed to being accepted for who and what they really are.
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Because intersex is a genetic anomaly and a birth defect, not another gender
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@mariec3733 For what? An answer to my question to come to you??
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@UCqoqINyRUvmnsMqJGXtMEXw Not counting this reply, I show 7 comments (6 are visible-- when logged off or when logged on) Don't pretend that you do not see my replies which include my questions to you
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Men built the world you live in, and make it possible
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@BenA1130 Yes, they are... They're activists driving an incoherent ideological agenda, and there is no truth in them
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@taehyunkisser Why do facts trigger you? They're still women, only now they've altered their appearance to look like that which they are not and can never be-- ie. Men.
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Parents need to educate their children that people with mental disorders such as these, aren't who you should be taking life advice from. The incoherent ideology is inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament-- none of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys, w/ gender
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@mariec3733 Then what does it matter to you-- if they're banned?
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Their friendship seems fine, so who are you to judge it?
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@nathanmccoy9188 First of all, Respect is earned, and is reserved for that which is respectable. Insisting on particular pronouns-- in defiance of objective reality, is making things about 'Your delusional beliefs' that the world must deny objective reality, and validate your delusions because you said so-- is so far removed from the realm of rational, reasonable thought-- that it's dismissal is entirely justified
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@χα.ρά It's XX, XY, Birth Defect. That's it. Doing cosplay, doesn't get it done, and neither does gene therapy w/ surgery with an elaborate costume. If anything it's more trans-human than transgender. Gender and biology aren't separate. The ideology's narrative is incoherent. They're attempting to rename personality traits and temperament-- which are not gender exclusive, 'Gender'-- and that's just incorrect
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@χα.ρά Too bad no one pointed out that if the trans-activist's ideology were correct, it would prove the gender pay gap to be a total myth
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The stats are clear facts, which show that men are the victims of violent crimes more than women and pointing that out triggers you-- Why??
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It because they're inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament which are not gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys, with gender.
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@Maksie0 No dear... There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females-- making the cis distinction entirely useless, redundant and irrelevant. Update your understanding
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@Maksie0 Nope-- women who are trans are trans men according to THEM. Get it straight junior
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They're men. There appears to be a prerequisite to being considered a trans-woman, and that's being male. There is no science which shows that trans-women aren't males. The fact that people want to pretend otherwise doesn't change objective reality
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@markusbaker1161 The psych issues those men are dealing with, doesn't justify them infringing on women's rights to privacy. They're still men
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@markusbaker1161 Think deeper thoughts. A diagnosis for gender dysphoria is included in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), a manual published by the American Psychiatric Association. They are still males, regardless of their 'Feelings'
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@markusbaker1161 No it doesn't. A woman is an adult, human, female and some guy identifying as something else-- doesn't make him that
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@markusbaker1161 Ya, because they're not women and they don't want to be referred to as men. Facts however, are stubborn things, and your use of another name for men doesn't change the men being discussed-- it only changes the word you're using
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@markusbaker1161 I don't care that they don't identify with their biology. They're still men
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@markusbaker1161 Ya, they're recognized as males by science. Cite the source of the "science" you're referring to that proves otherwise
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@markusbaker1161 You got nuthin... :text-green-game-over::person-turqouise-waving:
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@markusbaker1161 No need. The biology is already established, validating my statements. The psych science validates my statements as well. Dissociative disorders are clearly defined as involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self.
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@TheLegendOfRandy And you didn't realize it was a typo, and then couldn't figure out what his intended meaning was? uh huh... WEAK and Pathetic of you
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Of course you are, dear. That's the sound of men and women everywhere rejecting this woke madness. If you need confirmation, ask Budweiser, Target, and Disney
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@PrincessKLS How many kids have you raised, who've become well-adjusted, happy, productive members of society???
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Adversity doesn't grant justification for taking a life. You are jumping through a lot of hoops to attempt to justify terminating the innocent in the womb, and you have failed. There is no justification
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@Maksie0 Poor baby, can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy. Your arguments and ideological narratives are incoherent nonsense. You've been thoroughly discredited to my satisfaction, and you've done nothing but make a spectacle of yourself by making demonstrably false statements. It's rather p@thetic on your part. There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are You Fail to persuade It is the trans-activists like you, who's insistence that others-- who are already minding their own business, participate in your LARP and cosplay, by insisting on the grammatically incorrect use of pronouns, and with no regard for the displacement of women's privacy, which is at the root of how you brought your business to everyone in public, making it their business. Irony or idiocy? Quit your whining. You look and sound ridiculous
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@markusbaker1161 Chill-- Blossom
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@markusbaker1161 My bad-- I didn't realize Karen was your real name. Chill-- Karen
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@markusbaker1161 You seem to be the one up in arms over the fact that people recognize those men for what they are-- men, and insisting on using a different name like trans women-- as if it signifies something relevant, changes nothing whatsoever. They're still men
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@markusbaker1161 The circus community is valid too. Still freaks
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@markusbaker1161 You have established that you have comprehension challenges when it comes to definitions. ex. The definition of gender: Gender refers to the sex assigned/observed at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. The social aspects of being male or female are socially constructed, and they're well-established since the dawn of time. That you wish to close your eyes to the facts, or protest about trans women being recognized as being the men they are in reality-- changes nothing.
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@markusbaker1161 The fantasy writers like you, are those who pretend that trans women aka men, are women-- because you hate women
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@Maksie0 Troll... You know very well that Women are adult, human, females and that condition is fixed and permanent. You were already told by another, "They can choose to buy into the arbitrary, sexist expectations imposed onto their sex, or do the progressive thing and reject them, like women, gays and lesbians have been doing for centuries now. That should be their light-bulb moment - " Inappropriately conflating the variability or personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) with 'gender' is the entire problem.
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@SydtheSquid112 That's a psych issue, and in reality there is only one kind of woman, and they're ALL born female.
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@Maksie0 Nope-- there is only 1 kind of woman and she's born female. Get help
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Welcome to reality. If women who didn't want to risk pregnancy, didn't-- the entire issue would evaporate
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@alphacharm “The truth has no defense against a fool determined to believe a lie.” They're not trans ANYTHING. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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No
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@yourlocaltwink4551 You advocating favor of punishing the innocent, because one or both of the parent's mistakes?
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@yourlocaltwink4551 And they are therefore, the root cause of their own self-inflicted dilemma. Punishing the innocent is unjustifiable
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You fail to recognize that both things can be true
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@markusbaker1161 I don't have to prove that they're out there doing that. The DOJ, and the news media have already done that. You being unaware changes nothing. No hate involved in being observant. That's not much of a refutation. Perhaps if they start their own sports leagues-- you can go out for the cheer leading squad of your favorite team
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@markusbaker1161 No need to re-prove that which the DOJ and the media have reported on. You being unaware is a YOU problem.Not my job to solve your dilemmas for you. Grow up
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@markusbaker1161 Yawn-- Again, looks like a YOU problem. I'm not buying your narrative. You Fail to persuade
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@markusbaker1161 You've yet to prove yourself relevant. Still XY, not trans ANYTHING. They're nothing more than a caricature of what they wish they were and can never be-- a woman. A face lift, genital mutilation, and a wardrobe change-- and none of that turns a male into a female, no matter how much you wish it to be true, it is not. They're engaging in gender appropriation in the form of a caricature. They're the same as they ever were-- dudes w/ psych issues and physical mutilation to prove it Change my mind... Ready, Set, Go.....
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@markusbaker1161 Trans women are Men w/ a trendy label. 🙃
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@mariec7352 If the mother perishes, so does the offspring in the womb-- justifying it in the case when a mother's life is in imminent peril. You have had that explained numerous times now, and you seem to still be confused. Why do you not care about the mother's life?
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@mariec7352 At what stage of development? How many cases is this "Certain amount" you're referring to representing? Try to Focus-- there would be no need for the child to be terminated in the cases where the mother perished, now would there? DUH...
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And Prisons, Dressing rooms, Sports, Sports teams... No-- That doesn't work either. Restrooms, as well as the things I mentioned are designed and implemented based on biology not subjective identity
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@Maksie0 That is what they say about you, among other things which are less flaterring
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@markusbaker1161 all 3 of you?
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@markusbaker1161 Cry a river. The VAST majority of comments here and people everywhere are mocking you and your endorsed, pushed ideological narrative, several of whom are citing observations I've made previously. :text-green-game-over:
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@markusbaker1161 Your narrative is rejected as madness
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@markusbaker1161 You can feel free to pretend that those men are women-- but they are not.
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@markusbaker1161 Nice try. You're the one pretending that men can be women and vice versa. They can't. If you're convinced I'm wrong-- Fine.
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@mariec3733 Then, stay tf out of women's private spaces, since those private spaces are designed and implemented based on biology
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@mariec3733 The principle, "If you're against slavery, don't own slaves" is the same as saying if you're against abortion, don't have one.
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@mariec3733 The principle of devaluing another's life, to the point of disposable people-- is exactly the same
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The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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Every war has been started by the rulers of men and women-- and being oppressed and ruled over--they had no say about it AT ALL. Get Real Well, to ALL the feminists who go along to get along-- I wish you well in the coming situation, where You'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are now-- women (in the workplace, on the sports field, in the restrooms, locker rooms, showers, and prisons).
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@ronald3726 She does, just not the analytical capacity to comprehend it's meaning and come to an intelligent conclusion about it--Obviously, going by her single-digit IQ analysis
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@Maksie0 You seem triggered. Is it because you hate women and she's an actual woman?
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Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female making the use of cis/trans intellectually vacant and totally useless
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Cis is entirely irrelevant. There are males and females... That's it. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman and that is being born female. Those dudes weren't, and they'll never be women
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@Maksie0 You sound sad and lonely
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@mariec3733 Recognizing that they are not that which they present themselves, just makes me observant.
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@Maksie0 No, that neither you nor your incoherent, woket@rd, cult narrative has merit
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@georgeaskeladd742 How do you know, being that actual Gender Dysphoria is SO rare-- that his friend is actually suffering from Gender Dysphoria, and isn't merely embracing their own perversion, unapologetically and aren't inappropriately being grouped under the Gender Dysphoria umbrella?
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@georgeaskeladd742 My friends use my name. Just sayin... If they're ok with their relationship, who are you to judge?
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@Maksie0 What is a woman?
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@markusbaker1161 a social construct
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@markusbaker1161 Women aren't a social construct. Your turn, what is a woman?
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@markusbaker1161 No they aren't. That's absurd
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@markusbaker1161 No it isn't. A human isn't a social construct. Women are adult, human females. Trans is a social construct-- and it doesn't invalidate biology.
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@markusbaker1161 I know trans is a social construct that doesn't invalidate biology at all
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@markusbaker1161 You said trans women are women. You're confused and wrong about that. They're men.
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@markusbaker1161 Women are not a social construct, dear. A woman is an adult human female. That's a biological category that feelings won't change. Try processing slower to overcome your intellectual barriers.
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@markusbaker1161 You said trans women are women. Looks like you're saying women are a social construct, and I wouldn't put it past you dear-- you haven't made any coherent case yet-- to support that statement or to explain the logic behind it.
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@aidsensemen5950 It's seems that they can't truly accept themselves, but think and act as though others should respect them, and accept them for who and what they'd rather be, as opposed to who and what they really are, and that upsets them? Does that about sum it up?
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@ignaciorodriguezdiaz104 That's not what Jesus taught
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@jessicapoe6224 No, a woman is an adult, human, female-- and men cannot be THAT
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@jessicapoe6224 Your belief doesn't change reality. A woman is an adult, human, female and that state is fixed and permanent.
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@jessicapoe6224 Correct, and all adult women are females
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@Maksie0 Yes, those women are still women, regardless of their decision to mutilate their bodies and unnaturally screw up their hormones, to appear more like that which they can never be-- Men
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Using that logic, if you aren't a victim of theft, violence, fraud, etc... you shouldn't have a say about the topic and it's affects... That isn't rational at all
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@mariec3733 I don't care about what you realize or don't. You've already been exposed as a troll
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@draculacousin Well, one can be opposed to theft, violence, fraud etc... same as abortion, regardless of one's gender-- and have an opinion and voice an opinion on the opposition. The violence is directly related to terminating the life of another human. In the case of rape, one can be opposed to that too, without being a female as well. One can be opposed to animal cruelty, regardless of the sex of the abuser as well, even if they're not a pet owner; and when someone is beating their dog telling me to mind my own business-- just isn't going to happen in that scenario either. The same applies to those who are seeking to terminate the lives of the innocent humans in the womb we're talking about. Regardless of being male or female. Hope that clarifies it for you
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@draculacousin Think deeper thoughts
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What's the rational for that hypothesis? Middle ground, to what end? Is there a middle ground between objective reality and the potential number of infinite, subjective individual claims of 'identity'-- which happen to to be objectively false? The inappropriate conflation of personality traits and temperament, neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys-- with gender, is causing a lot of confusion. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively, and male and female are in fact biological categories which are fixed and permanent. I posit that there isn't trans anything. You're still the same sex/gender prior to altering your appearance, as you are after, and if gender is fluid-- why the need to change?? It's like extreme LARPing/cosplay to people who recognize that you are not that which you claim to identify as and/or present yourself as.
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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Then she should acknowledge that by choosing to do so, she forfeits her claims to child support when the father doesn't want the baby, and she does
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@Elkanus Of course! Just look at the single motherhood rate, for the number of women who've chosen poorly
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@Elkanus You're reaching and seem to have lost the plot. With significant numbers of women unable to identify the father without a DNA, test due to their "choice" to risk pregnancy with multiple partners on multiple occasions resulting in an inability to positively identify the father (Typical Maurie Povich Show topic), "And Sir-- You are NOT the father", while the woman had previously been promising that she was faithful... Uh huh That question is revealed to be a bit more involved than it seems at 1st glance. As a single parent, who raised my now 32 yo son-- without his bio mom in the picture, (from the time he was 1st born) and I didn't get child support from her; How would you answer, if that was your situation and you were asked what you asked me?
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@Elkanus She's not worth my time
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They're all m3nt@l cases
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The problem starts and ends with women choosing to risk unwanted pregnancies and then facilitating their own dilemma. How smart is that? I can name that tune in no notes
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What are you doing to battle the problem?
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@TheLegendOfRandy The best way to fix what's wrong in the world, is to start by fixing yourself
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I expect that people who aren't prepared to risk pregnancy and deal with the consequences avoid them, and for someone with some integrity to inform them that the world doesn't owe them a life free from adversity.
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@Tattleta1e That dude is a poser, and a sniper. He does his little virtue signaling troll routine, and when called out on it, he flees because he's disingenuous-- and in the end, he's Wrong and no amount of creative arguing is going to change the fact that he's just wrong
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@ToTheMaxGaming1 Kind of irrelevant huh? That's not much of an argument
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@catboyash No, they're are not. They are men. If they were women, the use of 'trans' would be entirely redundant and unnecessary.
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@markusbaker1161 The biological science is already established, validating my statements. The psych science validates my statements as well. Dissociative disorders are clearly defined as those involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self. 😏😮🧐
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@markusbaker1161 Societies have long-established gender roles, which you conflate with gender-- as though they're synonymous. That's an error on your part. They are not synonymous Nothing you've presented has invalidated anything I've written.
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@markusbaker1161 No, the gender roles like 'trans-women'-- are the real social constructs. Gender refers to the sex assigned/observed at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Again, you're conflating gender with gender roles and have presented nothing whatsoever which has invalidated anything I've written.
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@markusbaker1161 You've invalidated nothing whatsoever. You're free to continue to incorrectly conflate gender and gender roles if you wish
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@markusbaker1161 The definitions I provided weren't my own. They were crafted by doctors in the medical community. That you have difficulty comprehending them isn't a problem for me. That's on you. Best of luck with that
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@markusbaker1161 Your response doesn't prove anything I've written is incorrect or invalid in any way.
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@markusbaker1161 You haven't made the case for why someone who's XY should be considered XX (As would necessarily be the case, to substantiate the statement that trans women are women) or trans XX-- and neither has anyone else. Why not try being relevant for a change?
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@brendenlim2158 The incoherent narrative that suggests gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity is an IQ test, and the people who don't realize the lunacy of their narratives-- Failed
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@Maksie0 No, they want to be called trans women is so they can pretend they're not men.
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@Maksie0 GFY... Ask Target
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@bubbleguts-1738 Privacy in locker rooms, showers, changing rooms, dressing rooms, scholarship opportunities, sports, sports teams, and safety in prisons
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that the world accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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Narcissists... They already have the same rights as everyone else. Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@LanaW123 There's no such thing as trans. There are males and females... That's it. A woman isn't a costume that men can simply put on. Women aren't a social construct. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those men weren't. Now you know
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Their mental disorders, sense of entitlement and narcissism
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Intellectual bankruptcy
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@bloodyirony No, I wasn't saying that you have any sense of moral superiority. That is aimed at those who adopt the rules for thee and not for me approach. The men's belief is as irrelevant as the women's belief that they are men. The fact is-- they are women, not men-- and their belief doesn't change that
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@Maksie0 Your ideology and narratives-- are rejected by the majority of people. The only one's fooled by your disguises are you
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@conor.3875 That's why those men don't belong in women's private spaces
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@conor.3875 It's precisely the focus. Men can't become women. Learn to decipher the difference between personality and gender
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@conor.3875 People who struggle with their identity, wishing they were the opposite gender, and presenting as the opposite gender-- are not, they're still the same sex/gender they were born as. Entertaining them as though they are, isn't worth discussing
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@conor.3875 No, gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and is relative to being male or female, respectively. I lose nothing One's personality and temperament, which is what you're describing, not gender-- doesn't alter the fact that they're male or female respectively. Acting like an effeminate male doesn't make one a woman. A woman isn't a social construct, being trans is. You're wrong
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@conor.3875 They, from what I understand-- have a predominate gender/s3x and many/most are infertile. NONE have presented with anything other than male or female organs, and None with both being functional-- so, they're not another gender invalidating the binary dichotomy of all mammals. A genetic anomaly doesn't invalidate the binary. The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule-- they prove the rule by being the exceptions
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@conor.3875 Nope... Not all females are women. A woman is an adult, human, female. Intersex people do not ever present with genitalia from anything other than the binary dichotomy of all mammals. There's is a physical disorder, not a psych disconnect
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Regardless, they're still not men. Men cannot become women and vice versa
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@Maksie0 That those men aren't women. duh
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@markusbaker1161 I have zero fear of transformers. I pity them
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@markusbaker1161 The objective reality is, those who you refer to as trans women are men and will always remain men regardless of the mutilation they choose to go through, or how quirky their wardrobe choices are-- they're still men.
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@markusbaker1161 I never said you didn't express yourselves as you want. I said your expression doesn't alter reality, and turn men into women. Dunning-Krueger effect seems to be affecting you in a negative way.
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@markusbaker1161 I dismissed you long ago, because you seem to know a lot about things that just aren't so. Your cult narrative and terminology is rejected. Gender-- there are 2, and they are fixed and permanent. No one in history has transitioned from male to female. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 You can't handle being dismissed because your narratives and nonsense don't stand up to scrutiny. That's okay... Your acceptance isn't required, and neither is your acknowledgement. The world doesn't owe you anything. buh bye
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, I have dismissed you, your opinions, narratives and idi0cy. Your refusal to accept that changes nothing.
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@markusbaker1161 Your continued comments, seeking my attention shows that you're motivated by my comments to continue to play the fool. Your failure to recognize that the comments in the comment section here show your talking points to be that of a vast minority-- that is rejected by most.
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@markusbaker1161 Fact: Men cannot become women. Learn it. Know it
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@markusbaker1161 That's not fact. That's fiction. No they don't. All that does is alter their appearance. It doesn't transform them or 'transition' them into the opposite sex.
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@markusbaker1161 That is wrong.
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@markusbaker1161 No, it is not. Do you agree with the curly haired woman that said a trans person is someone who believes they are the other sex? Because otherwise what are you transitioning?
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@markusbaker1161 You believe that they believe they're social constructs? Weird that you say trans women are women. You believe women are social constructs??
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It's the new trendy goth 2.0
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@Maksie0 No, they aren't. Women who are trans are trans men according to your own narrative. You just can't seem to keep it straight. LOL There are no trans humans. There are only males and females. In order to be a woman, the prerequisite is being born female. Now you know
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Scrotey McBoogerballs I don't do it for them. I do it so that others reading might gain some clarity on the issue for themselves, to use when appropriate while discussing this topic.
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@Maksie0 Not much of a rebuttal. Men cannot become women. Cope and seethe harder
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@aaralyn6710 None of those qualify as mutilation.
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@aaralyn6710 Learn the definition of mutilation. The removal of properly functioning appendages is exactly what gender affirming surgeries does
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Well, if men can be women too, That seems to destroy the gender pay gap myth sufficiently
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@sosasarah9070 It's TOTALLY incoherent. It doesn't make ANY sense. It's like a black hole of intellectual bankruptcy. Whoa to the feminists who go along with this incoherent ideology's narrative as in the near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will say they're women.
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@SaraMinatz Not physically there isn't. Gender-- there are 2 male/female... That's it
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Watching the Intellectually Disenfranchised and Morally Bankrupt whinge away in a triggered frenzy is AWESOME
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@cale3214 The entire trans narrative is incoherent nonsense. They conflate science, with science fiction, and pseudo-science, fact w/ fiction, gender, gender roles, personality traits and temperament as though they're all synonymous, and they are not.
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Gender is fixed and permanent and gender roles are not. They're different things. Personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender or gender roles. Gotta know that too
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@malaythegreat4472 Gender-- there are 2. The word gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and relates to the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. MAle and female are biological categories. Trans is a social construct. Men and women are biological reality, not a social construct.
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@malaythegreat4472 Far too many tend to conflate gender and gender roles, then they conflate the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender, as though they're synonymous-- and they are not. If, as you suggest-- gender is disconnected from sex, then one's self-perception which is at odds with their biological reality clearly doesn't alter one's sex. Justify those men being granted access to women's private spaces. You can't, because they aren't
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One could alter their appearance to look like a Klingon if they choose, and it doesn't actually make them a Klingon, and those who think it does are delusional. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Thoughts??
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@markusbaker1161 It appears that simple analogies overwhelm your intellectual capacity. Has that always been the case?
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@markusbaker1161 🙄 Really? smh... waf
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@markusbaker1161 Weak...
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@markusbaker1161 Says the guy who has difficulty deciphering the difference between males and females. sigh...
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@markusbaker1161 You've also not refuted anything or established anything other than your preference to be an agitator, who argues for the sake of argument.
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cis is useless, as there is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female
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They call men toxic, but when those men call out their toxic female empowerment, then the females label the men bigots and sexists. Get a clue
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@theendisthebeginningistheend That is in fact, Not- what they're doing because that doesn't involve transitioning into a mutilated body, to be as they are. In fact, to be as they are-- involves nothing whatsoever
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Often women forget, that the things they 'Feel' overly-emotional about, aren't the same things that upset men to that degree of anxiety
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@realone7488 No, however; There's nothing inherently wrong with anxiety or anger to the extent that either justify therapy.
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Only for confused people
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Women are women, and men are men-- regardless of how they self-identify, so using cis is redundant and none of anyone's concern, but for those who are extremely confused about the differences between fantasy and reality
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@mariec3733 What is the relevance of your comment?
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@mariec3733 That doesn't justify granting men, access into women's spaces?
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@mariec3733 Act your age. The prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. Your inability to process that indicates you're kinda slow. You only need to be able to read the studies and the DSM definitions that explains them; Until about 5 seconds ago when the hacks you rely on changed the classifications. The only ones fooled are you and yours-- which are the vast vast minority.
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There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. In other news: lgbtq, BLM, trans-activist, sh00tz 9 and killz 5-- so they blame the gunz, or the trans-activist??
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There is No middle ground between fact and fiction
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Yes, All 2 genders
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That wasn't even as deep as a baby spoon. You've established nothing and refuted even less. Men pretending to be women and infiltrating women's sports, locker rooms, dressing rooms, the work place and in prisons is a problem for a lot of women. Hope that clarifies it for you
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@Smartypants Nope... Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders -- who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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The entire trans-activist ideology is incoherent and ridiculous
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@Nathancant1953 Obviously Sherlock... There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the use of cis totally irrelevant and useless
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They're exposing it for those with eyes to see it
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@aidynalexander4172 Unless she was r@ped, she chose to facilitate her totally avoidable and unwanted dilemma, by engaging in the one and only act which causes it-- so she has no one else to blame for her choice to risk herself getting pregnant
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All form, No substance. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after.
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@mariec3733 Oh, the stalker troll again 🙄 1. Re-Read the 1st sentence of the OP 2. Evidence? I don't expect you to admit to the truth, as you've lied about things I've said many many times, and the comments are all there to validate what I'm saying. I mean it isn't as if you haven't proven that you argue and agitate at every opportunity for sport, while disingenuously engaging in what I'd compare to a phone scammer's ethics, with a politician's evasiveness, failing to ever directly answer a question honestly. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Just pointing out the incoherent things you've said-- and you are desperate to avoid it-- The truth is not subject to your admission, nor your denial. You writing that not all lives are valuable, qualifying-- "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of" (in other words) unless they are sufficiently charitable to a level of your satisfaction, is patently absurd and the amount of ego behind that is unreal. Your narcissism is off-the-hook.
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@mariec7352 You have no moral ground to stand on, from which to finger wag. There is no virtue, righteousness nor truth in you
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@mariec7352 Matthew 10:13 If the home is worthy, let your peace rest on it; but if it is not, let your peace return to you. 14And if anyone will not welcome you or heed your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town. 15Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.… I'll leave you in peace now. Bye
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@mariec3733 Your confusion, lies and deceit are evident all throughout the comment section. Your failure to recognize that is clear. No worries You've failed to make your case or refute anyone.
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@katherinetanks632 That's not much of a refutation. When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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@katherinetanks632 Yes, I refuted your comment with mine, and you failed to refute me. Care to give it a shot?
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@katherinetanks632 So far, you've explained away and refuted nothing whatsoever. Give it a try
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@mariec3733 She didn't. That's the case to be made why she wouldn't be able to have the charge stick.
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@hello-sz7hp You're not going to convince a sociopath that ending a human life is morally repugnant.
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They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after. They aren't trans ANYTHING
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@xmasgrump2398 The majority aren't suffering with gender dysphoria. They're LARPing in the same way a drag queen does.
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Yup... Totally narcissistic personality. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid.
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They self delete rate of the trans community dwarfs that of the general population. Happy people don't tend to self delete. Just sayin... Sex/Gender= 2 (Male, Female) Personality traits and temperament = Many (None are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, tomboys) Gender Roles (Vary from culture to culture, and country to country) ALL based around the various social aspects of being male or female, respectively in those various cultures, societies and countries
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@Maksie0 Neither are delusions
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No, half the panel are women in disguise
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@Ricocossa1 Discussions that involve people with psych issues such as it is-- aren't typically intellectually sound, are they?
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@Maksie0 Do you? That's all You do, when people don't buy into your talking points. I told you-- you better get used to it
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And what of prisons, locker rooms, dressing rooms, showers?? Bottom line-- bathrooms, prisons, locker rooms, dressing rooms, and showers aren't designed and implemented based on feelings, rather on biology-- and in that regard, there are only males and females.
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@HootyASMR What easily understood is that there are only males and females, and that biological category is fixed and permanent. Furthermore... Men cannot become women and vice versa. Trans women are men with issues, pretending they're women without issues
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@Maksie0 Biology
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@Capybarrrraaaa No, reality isn't a presupposition. It's objective-- that's how science works
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@Maksie0 Like you??? Who are you working for?
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@musicality5342 One would have to be intellectually bankrupt to suggest anyone was doing that, and believe it's true. No one is forcing women to risk unwanted pregnancy. Once she conceives a new life-- it isn't just about the woman anymore.
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@buzzlightyearlight1247 Well, Ice-cream doesn't have bones
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That's not as virtuous as being courageous, and doing what's 'Right' despite one's fears. Actually it's more like virtueless virtue signaling by comparison
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@heyheyhey0220 Mental illness has been around a long time. What's your point?
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@heyheyhey0220 No, not at all. You do seem to be virtue signaling, the problem is the absence of any actual virtue. They're trying to rename personality traits, "Gender", as if they're interchangeable. They're wrong. To ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where as a feminist-- You'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are women while they add to your competition in the workplace, take over women's sports, locker rooms, restrooms and showers, as well as in prisons. They're trying to turn womanhood into a costume that can be worn like a disguise. You'll see, and when they do-- don't say nobody told you
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@Maksie0 That is coming to an end soon. Cope Harder
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@mariec3733 If you're talking about "disliking" straight men and women as a whole because of small personal experiences, it's because they're straight men and women?
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@mariec3733 Your narrative is out of gas. There is no science anywhere that proves men can become women. Cope Harder
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Surgery performed on the unborn in the womb proves that the child has consciousness in the womb and that it does in fact feel, scientifically. My $.02
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@timesphere5199 Neither does a coma patient, what's your point?
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@mariec7352 The fact that you nor anyone else has refuted what I've posted proves you have nothing relevant to contribute
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@mariec7352 If the shoe fits...it fits. You certainly haven't refuted anything here. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm just pointing out the incoherent things you've said-- and you are desperate to avoid it-- The truth is not subject to your admission, nor your denial, nor your acknowledgement nor understanding.
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@mariec3733 Matthew 10:13 If the home is worthy, let your peace rest on it; but if it is not, let your peace return to you. 14And if anyone will not welcome you or heed your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town. 15Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.… I'll leave you in peace now. I feel comfortable that I've spoken my intended message.
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And others derive their value from the positive merit-based results of their own efforts
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@Erik-fn7kj Birth defects aren't a new gender, Dear
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@sagetifft2864 Many are confused about it because they're inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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Correct. It is indicative of character
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Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent, and one's 'Feelings' don't change that fact
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@justyana488 Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender.
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As someone who uses logic and reason, I see a lot of confusion here regarding the fact that, Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. How is there anything phobic about recognizing that someone is not that which they claim to be? It just makes them observant. There's no hate in that
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@markusbaker1161 How is recognizing that they aren't that, which they present as-- being taken to indicate one's feeling about it?
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@markusbaker1161 How so? The 'Because you said so' standard hasn't been issued any credibility-- But That's fine, you're entitled to your opinion. You haven't explained how, by answering my question regarding the differentiation between 'Feelings' regarding the fact that they aren't that which they present themselves as, vs the mere 'Observation' of reality establishing the fact that they aren't.
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@markusbaker1161 That opinion and label holds ZERO integrity, and doesn't stand up to scrutiny-- for the reasons stated, and you've refuted nothing with facts, so my assertions stand.
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@markusbaker1161 Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 I recognize women as women, and those who are not women-- and are trying to look like women are operating from a place which presumes womanhood is a costume which can be put on and taken off. That's wrong
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@markusbaker1161 I recognize that it's a dude attempting to look like a woman
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@markusbaker1161 I reject the term. You fail to persuade
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@markusbaker1161 I reject your definitions and terminology. That's not to say that I don't recognize that there are males and females and that there are segments of each which have various physical and psych issues. According to a Swedish study, Long-term follow-up of transsexual persons undergoing sex reassignment surgery: cohort study in Sweden "Conclusions: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, sui***al behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."
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You can make the same argument re: choice, about virtually any crime. There is no justification for terminating the lives of the innocent, but for the mother's life being in imminent peril. The woman is not a victim, unless it's a rape case. In the other 99% of cases-- She's the root cause of her own avoidable dilemma, because she facilitates it by engaging in the one and only act which actually causes her "unwanted" pregnancy. She's the wrench in her own spokes.
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@TheLegendOfRandy 5th grade science confuses you?
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@mariec7352 You're still failing to justify terminating the innocent
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@mariec7352 No, you've failed to justify your position-- Anywhere, and you've failed to justify it here as well.
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@mariec7352 That's a lot of words to say nothing relevant whatsoever. You fail to justify terminating the innocent.
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@Maksie0 How do you figure that unhinged dude, is a woman???
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@justyana488 Look at you-- trying to be edgy... I recommend in the future, being relevant
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Wars, from the beginning of history, were started by the leaders of men and women (Sultans, Pharaoh's, Emperors, Kings, Chiefs, etc.), and the people who they conscripted into service had no say about it
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He requires all of society to affirm his self-perceived identity as though it's based in objective reality, putting the burden on him to show the majority, who reject his incoherent view of reality, why they should deny objective reality, and so far he's failing miserably
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@elijahtravis2560 I posit that it is those who endorse affirmation-based treatment protocols who are not addressing the root issue, and are willing for them to self delete-- by exhibiting questionable AT BEST ethics, evidenced by the extraordinarily high rate of self-deletes, even after transition, compared to the general population-- but they got paid anyway, and considering that-- the claims of efficacy is totally unjustifiable, imo.
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Drag, cross dressers and trans women all have the same thing in common-- They're ALL men
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@mariec3733 All that's possible is to alter their appearance. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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More like a cult of personality
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@Maksie0 Dude, you really need to quit using that ridiculous slogan. Trans women are men, and Women who are trans are trans men according to your own cult terminology.
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@Maksie0 Why?? There is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female. How embarrassing for You-- to not be able to process that
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All women are born female, all men are born male and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference, or a costume. They aren't any kind of woman whatsoever.
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That dude is unhinged from reality
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People are male or female respectively-- and those restrooms already exist.
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@Maksie0 Yes, your belief that men can become women makes you look ridiculous
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@blue.jay.s Men cannot become women regardless of their feelings to the contrary, and women cannot become men-- regardless of their feelings to the contrary. If your identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality and then must participate in your LARP and cosplay, then too bad, so sad-- that identity is a figment of your imagination and is in no way valid in objective reality. Cope Harder
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@elenamarkicevic9673 No, those imaginary lines you've created are all you. The Pill, IUD's, Condoms, Tubal ligation are all options. It's a woman's responsibility because, it's only her body that gets pregnant-- so if she wants to avoid an unwanted pregnancy, the power to avoid the avoidable is ALL with her.
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@mariec3733 You're not too bright. The principle you advocate in favor of which is devaluing another's life, to the point of disposable people-- is exactly the same as the one utilized by those who would say, "If you don't like slavery, don't own a slave". Deplorable
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@mariec3733 Your effort to ignore the fact that women have all the power in the world to prevent unwanted pregnancies is noted. Your triggered whinging is dismissed as such
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They're counting on it
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୨୧ jules One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@bredoslow8166 Intersex is a birth defect, not a psych issue, or another gender disproving the binary of all mammalian species
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@Maksie0 The surgery and hormones etc... didn't just happen. They chose to alter their appearance to be like that which they will never be-- ie. Men
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@PD-ws4td Personality traits and variability in temperament are not gender exclusive (That's why there are effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) and the narrative is attempting to categorize them, and rename them as 'gender' and it's just incorrect
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@conor.3875 It's redundant. One's subjective identity doesn't change their biology
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@conor.3875 Making it redundant and utterly useless
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@conor.3875 You're peddling their talking points. If you can't articulate why you think their narratives are correct-- you're a sheep
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They're men, with ZERO frame of reference as to what it "feels like" to be a woman
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@Maksie0 :face-blue-smiling::face-green-smiling: No, they're men w/ issues who are men pretending to be women without issues
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@Danikalopez-sl4fm stfu gr00mer. Men cannot become women regardless of their feelings to the contrary, and women cannot become men-- regardless of their feelings to the contrary. If your identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality and then must participate in your LARP and cosplay, then too bad, so sad-- that identity is a figment of your imagination and is in no way valid in objective reality. Cope Harder
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The 'Pro'-choice you're in favor of maintaining-- is the ability to terminate the child in the womb, in the name of convenience and it's shameful. Give it a rest The morals and ethics of those who would declare the unborn to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are questionable-- at Best, and are those of narcissists and sociopaths.
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That would do nothing to address scholarships, prisons, dressing rooms, locker rooms, changing rooms, or confront the fact that those men aren't women, and never will be women
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Seed of the serpent vs the seed of the woman, nephilim, sheep vs the goats, wheat vs the tares, those who's names are found written in the book of life vs those who's names were not found written in the book vs those who's names were blotted out. All corruption and abominations against God's creation. In the end times,it is written that it will be as it was in the days of Noah, when all flesh becomes corrupt.
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@Maksie0 You have failed to substantiate any of your ridiculous claims because they're incoherent madness. Go be angry some more
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@Maksie0 That's called projection. You say trans women are women, and that's wrong. A woman is an adult, human, female. As it turns out, the prerequisite for being a woman is being born female, and those men were not. You then say, trans women are women who are trans-- and that's wrong too. Women who are trans-- are trans men, according to your own narratives-- and you still got it wrong. What's up with that?? Your confusion has nothing to do with me. I can only post information for you-- I can't 'understand' it for you too. That's all on you.
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@Maksie0 The majority reject your incoherent madness. Cope Harder
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@yansideabacoa6257 There is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female. Now you know. Take your time to process reality, then cope harder
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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It's much easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled. Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are inappropriately confusing and conflating gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous and they are not, while simultaneously insisting that biological sex and gender are disconnected-- while failing to realize that a subjective identity doesn't alter anyone's biological reality. Lost souls
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@xjthedestroyr Says who, You? No... Just No. Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is respectable.
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My friends use my name. Besides, If they're ok w/their relationship, who are you to judge?
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No, we don't. A woman is an adult, human, female
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@ItsSchwifty For you maybe. My issue is discerning objective truth from subjective fantasy, and not buying into their world view
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Do you believe that the resulting child's life is somehow less valuable because one or both of their parents are bad?
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@mariec3733 You advocate terminating the valuable life of the innocent, but I don't
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@mariec3733 And that triggers you, which is hilarious to me
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@mariec3733 You look triggered to me
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Amnesia victims couldn't tell you
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@markusbaker1161 That dude's obnoxious and not lady-like AT ALL. How is it not obvious to you.
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@markusbaker1161 Life isn't free from adversity for anyone, best I can tell
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@markusbaker1161 I can, however; state that it doesn't make them a woman
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@markusbaker1161 HILARIOUS!!! Nothing you've written means I'm incorrect. You've refuted exactly nothing whatsoever, so my statements stand unrefuted. Deal with it
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@markusbaker1161 Doesn't matter. You're wrong
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Now they're Eunuchs-- who dress in drag, prancing around pretending to be something that they are not and can never be
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@lament-um How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition, and are then considered "rational"?
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@markusbaker1161 :face-turquoise-covering-eyes: That was lame, even for you
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@markusbaker1161 The logic it takes to say that someone who has a host of other behavioral/mental disorders (as nearly all dealing with transgenderism do) and is willing to mutilate themselves in irreversible fashion to achieve a status wherein they're still dozens of times more likely to commit sui**de ISN'T mental illness, is amazingly twisted. Insert any other condition and any other incessant desire to self-harm and there would be no dispute whatsoever.
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@markusbaker1161 Your IQ?
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@markusbaker1161 Well, it isn't like you haven't repeated the phrase trans women are women, and other nonsense-- WAY more than 2 or 3 times.
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@markusbaker1161 You're whining for the sake of whining. Grow up :face-turquoise-covering-eyes:
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@markusbaker1161 According to the Black's Law dictionary definition, a woman is an adult, human, female, so-- How do you figure trans women are women? Trans is a social construct. You're still confusing people, which are male or female, with social constructs
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@markusbaker1161 If gender is merely a social construct disconnected from biology, why is it a focus at all-- regarding men being granted access to women's private spaces?
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@markusbaker1161 People are male or female, that's a biological fact. Trans women are men, portraying themselves as a social construct. The only one confused here is you
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@markusbaker1161 You're conflating facts, by writing that trans women are women. Women aren't a social construct dear
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@jessicaivyart How is it misgendering, when pretending they're women and referring to those men as she/her, is grammatically incorrect? That's the real misgendering. The prerequisite to being a woman is to be born female, and those dudes-- weren't
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Looks like someone that’s supportive of eugenics, by suggesting that people shouldn’t face any adversity - so your solution is to terminate them? smh. Wow
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@TheLegendOfRandy Yes, consenting to drive is a choice. Is it consenting to getting into an accident? Only if you cause the accident. Why do you ask, and what does that have to do with women choosing to risk pregnancy?
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@TheLegendOfRandy No, I'm saying you're exhibiting a major glitch in your comprehension capacity. I'm not saying you hit it on purpose. I'm saying it doesn't matter if you did or not. You wrecked your own car, and have no one else to blame-- similarly, the same applies to women getting pregnant
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@mariec7352 Yawn... Never happened. My comments are visible.
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@mariec7352 Bot-- Your opinion has already been proven to be and rendered less than useless.
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If Democrats are so concerned about women and girls being raped, why do they release rapists from prison over and over?
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@whitewhitewhite2446 The barking dog wears no shoes
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@whitewhitewhite2446 Totally agree
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@mariec7352 None of that is correct, nor does it justify terminating the innocent in the womb. I already told you-- You should try being relevant
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@mariec7352 That's not an answer
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Men use lethal means of force, while females not so much, and yes-- Females attempt more often than men and are less successful-- almost as if an attention seeking behavior. For the record those were women, not 'trans' anything. You can neuter a dog and put him in a dress, and it's still a male dog, in a dress
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To ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where as a feminist-- You'll be living under the tyranny of Men, insisting that they are now women.
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All women? Most Women? I don't think so
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@mariec7352 Do you admit that the baby's body autonomy is equal to every other human's? If no, Why not?
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@eveliinahannele I knew you wouldn't-- is the point. I didn't expect any integrity from you. I told you you were being censored
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@eveliinahannele There's an article discussing this topic with studies listed which directly refute your assertion. They easily located by doing a search. The title of the article is, "Yes, Banning Abortion Reduces Abortion rates". The article is quite thorough, and debunks your assertions quite thoroughly. Please feel free to attempt to refute the facts at your convenience. 🦗🦗🦗
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@eveliinahannele I quite literally put the title of the article in quotes for you already. Copy/paste it into your browser including the quotes, and it's the 1st one that pops up. The article refers directly to the studies being addressed. What's preventing you from doing the same thing, regarding listing the title of the studies you're referencing? Have fun! Education... Fun, and for Free
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@mariec7352 Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, but 5 triggered responses. Ya, get a grip. The article directly refutes the allegations, citing studies for evidence to support the conclusions and narrative I've brought up-- validating my stance and invalidating yours. Watching you try to spin it is hilariously lame, but not unexpected. You'd really need to do better than you have so far.
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@mariec7352 No problem... I hope anyone interested reads it and learns the truth about your Misinformation, Disinformation and Lies
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@mariec7352 I'm under no delusion that there is a potential for a meeting of the minds, when it comes to philosophical issues about morality, such as issues like these which separate those who value life as something bigger than just an opportunity for self-gratification-- from those like you, who just don't.
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@mariec7352 It still applies, even if you don't get it. When asked by HK 4lyfe if you believe all life is valuable -- you said, "All human life? Definitely not. Lol. Have you seen the world lately? I think it's only valuable if we make it just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of than we do to simply enforce more births, which we do not." No worries. I don't expect you to admit to the truth, as you've lied about things I've said many many times, and the comments are all there to validate what I'm saying. I mean it isn't as if you haven't proven that you argue and agitate at every opportunity for sport, while disingenuously engaging in what I'd compare to a phone scammer's ethics, with a politician's evasiveness, failing to ever directly answer a question honestly. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Just pointing out the incoherent things you've said-- and you are desperate to avoid it-- The truth is not subject to your admission, nor your denial. You writing that not all lives are valuable, qualifying-- "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of" (in other words) unless they are sufficiently charitable to a level of your satisfaction, is patently absurd and the amount of ego behind that is unreal. Your narcissism is off-the-hook, and it's why you're dismissed as less than useless.
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@mariec7352 Unfortunately, I can't do anything about your comprehension capacity challenges or cognitive dissonance--But, I feel comfortable with what I've written. Your understanding, acceptance, acknowledgement, perception or denial are not required by the truth. Matthew 10:13 If the home is worthy, let your peace rest on it; but if it is not, let your peace return to you. 14And if anyone will not welcome you or heed your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town. 15Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.… I'll leave you in peace now. I feel comfortable that I've spoken my intended message.
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@mariec7352 Your reply= Irrelevant chatter, and addresses nothing but your own bigotry. Shocker /S You have no answer The Answer: It is Not anyone but a woman's responsibility to herself, to maintain her preferred status (pregnant, or Not). Obviously Like I said, "I'm under no delusion that there is a potential for a meeting of the minds, when it comes to philosophical issues about morality, such as issues like these which separate those who value life as something bigger than just an opportunity for self-gratification-- from those like you, who just don't." Besides, you said you were done wasting my time. You tend to deflect and start talking about assaults resulting in conception, and it bears repeating, since you don't seem to get it, "Your strawman argument doesn't withstand scrutiny. Their choice would've been to not be assaulted. Duh-- Obviously they're not choosing to risk pregnancy. How does that elude you? I was discussing the choices to risk unwanted pregnancy, and assault victims are by default not included as their choice was taken from them. So-- knock it off, with your intentionally obtuse strawman arguments. You, shifting focus away from the majority of cases, to the 1%-- as though they're interchangeable is disingenuous at best-- and wavering back and forth in an effort to avoid the truth isn't winning you any points; It is diminishing the potential for you to establish what is currently a non-existent credibility rating even further. The resulting new human life that results from conception, isn't disposable because they were the result of an attack, or because of a poor choice by a woman risking an unwanted pregnancy, or by the failure of preventative birth control, because life is valuable. That's my pov. You've already admitted that you don't think life is valuable, and won't-- until your level of acceptable lifestyle and comfort are 1st established. I don't believe that your version of Utopia is even remotely possible. I know it's difficult for you, but try to discern the difference between avoiding an unwanted pregnancy and avoiding sex. They're not mutually exclusive of one another. Use your imagination (Giving you the benefit of the doubt here)"
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@marsdavidson8307 Science says, "XX, XY, Birth Defect/Anomaly... That's it". Science-fiction says, "Gender and biology are disconnected"
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@knithearts I'm a retired Behavior Modification Specialist, and am fully aware of the condition. Only 2 genders-- Male and Female. Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not.
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The fact that the world doesn't view them as they view themselves, or how they would prefer that it views them-- isn't a problem the world needs to rectify 'For' them. Just saying...
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Because he's a delusional nut case, proudly displaying his vast ocean of ignorant beliefs, as though they were based in objective reality. Loud and wrong aren't a great combo
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@kyubey-mi1du All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference or a costume-- making the use of cis/trans intellectually vacant, grammatically incorrect, and totally useless
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A very very very rare genetic birth defect, no doubt-- but hardly what you'd use to establish the normalcy of the human condition
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@Maksie0 That's wrong
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@marissamate What? You got nuthin? Very disingenuous of you to not bother answering my question
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Because they're not trans anything. They're still just men-- who've altered their appearance. Men LARPing in "woman-face"
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@Maksie0 They're not the crazy ones chopping off healthy body parts and pretending that it makes them the opposite sex.
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Science is observable, and none of this subjective gender identity confusion qualifies as anything other than pseudo-science and science-fiction
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@mariec7352 Men cannot become women and vice versa, no matter how intensely you try to convince yourself, otherwise. You're fooling no one, except perhaps yourself
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@mariec7352 ❄
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@mariec7352 Well, they're definitely correct. You have no valid, much less winning arguments.
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@eveliinahannele Forced tubal ligations, for those who can actually get pregnant, using your logic-- seems even more logical
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@eveliinahannele Cite your sources... If men were the one's who risked getting pregnant, you might have a point, BUT-- they do not. Apply your reasoning to women, who do
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Newsflash: Half the panel are females. Jubilee seems to be attempting to be the homeland Where psychosis and ignorance collide. Women cannot become men and men cannot become women. Oh ya-- intersex is a birth defect, not another gender-- of which there are only 2. Quit conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament with gender-- it's just incorrect. 🙄
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Intellectual bankruptcy, coupled w/ psych disorders on their part, causes confusion
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@davestuddaman8127 Almost as dangerous as treating them with affirmative care protocols
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@rambunctiousvegetable Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Try again??
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@Maksie0 So? The choice re: what people do with their own bodies is made, when they choose to risk pregnancy or not. Afterwards there are 2 bodies (Mother and child)
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@Maksie0 Check out a basic 6th grade biology textbook. Focus on the chapter on reproduction and specifically fertilization, for clarity on the subject.
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@mariec3733 I appreciate you admitting your inability to discern the answer 'Fertilization' to the question "what do you mean by life beginning"
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@hunterjumper151 Men and women cooperating together, despite horrible survival odds seems like a more rational explanation than your analysis takes into consideration
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@zodiea5289 Birth control is a means for preventing you from getting pregnant, and it's cheap and easily accessible. You can get a box of condoms for $12. It doesn't always work, and you know that-- so YOU assume the risk of getting pregnant, when you're out there creating the risk you say you're desperately trying to avoid. You just want an easy pass to be promiscuous without any consequences. Well, there's no such thing. If you're promiscuous-- you increase the odds of achieving the avoidable. Get your tubes tied, if you have such a vested interest in maintaining your pursuit of promiscuity on demand, and don't want children
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@XSlimSxadyX Delusional take. They aren't trans anything. Still the same sex/gender as they ever were
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"Socialism has a history of failure so blatant, that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it".-- T. Sowell
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@Jerome616 The total number of pregnancy related deaths was Overall in 2020, there were almost 24 deaths per 100,000 births, or 861 deaths total — numbers that reflect mothers dying during pregnancy. Not a ratio-- Total number. Data for United States in 2020. Number of births: 3,613,647. It's not only rare, it's EXTREMELY rare. Just 1% of women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 0.5% do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute.
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One wouldn't use pronouns when speaking directly to someone, in the 1st person. They'd use their name. The entire ideological narrative is intellectually vacant
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@jhellygirl Just sayin... There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the use of 'Cis' entirely irrelevant and useless
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To all the feminists who go along to get along w/ this incoherent ideology-- I wish you well in the near dystopian future, where you'll now be oppressed by men-- who will say they're women too.
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That's what was intended
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@Maksie0 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the use of cis totally irrelevant. Those dudes weren't and aren't any kind of woman, and they never will be women. They're still men Now, Off you go-- Junior
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You forgot to say why.
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Where psychosis and ignorance collide, clarity is seldom found. Women cannot become men and men cannot become women. Oh ya-- intersex is a birth defect, not another gender-- of which there are only 2. Quit conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament with gender-- it's just incorrect. 🙄
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1. How are those-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? 2. Why should those men be granted access to women's private spaces?
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@Maksie0 Normal women vs reactionary freaks, who pretend they're women
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Pronouns are objective, not subjective. You don't get to choose your own. That being said, If they're ok with their relationship, who are you to judge? Best of luck in the feminist dystopian future, where you'll be oppressed by men who now claim they're women too. smh
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@TheLegendOfRandy That's wrong. Think deeper thoughts
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@draculacousin This is the Information Age, and let's not pretend they didn't know what they were risking, when they chose to engage in the one and only act which causes their unwanted pregnancy. C'mon now... Women are not forced to have unprotected sex, if you want to chase pleasure, you have to bear responsibility for the possible outcomes. No innocent life should face termination because of the lack of responsibility among adults.
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@draculacousin I'm under no delusion that there is a potential for a meeting of the minds, when it comes to philosophical issue about morality, such as issues like these which separate those who value life as something bigger than just an opportunity for self-gratification-- from those like you, who just don't.
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@draculacousin You're so invested in the ability to terminate the lives of the innocent in the womb. It's more than a little too bad. It's ghoulish
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@draculacousin I'm just interested in them exercising some self-control and responsibility so they don't create the kids they don't want. They're the root cause of their own dilemma
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@draculacousin All that's just wrong. 1. It is alive, (non-living things don't grow and develop) 2. It is a human 3. Anyone of those people may be the one who will cure the world's diseases, or solve world hunger and poverty. I know you don't see why I care. Perhaps, one day you will ask yourself why you don't. Understand that life is precious. Deeper thoughts
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@mariec3733 Unfortunately, I can't help you with your comprehension capacity challenges, but I feel comfortable that I've stated my position as intended. Matthew 10:13 If the home is worthy, let your peace rest on it; but if it is not, let your peace return to you. 14And if anyone will not welcome you or heed your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town. 15Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.… I'll leave you in peace now. I feel comfortable that I've spoken my intended message. Bye
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@mariec3733 Sucks to be you. Unfortunately, I can't help you with your comprehension capacity challenges, but I feel comfortable that I've stated my position as intended.
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@draculacousin You're dismissed.
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@mariec3733 That's not an answer. Your reply= Irrelevant chatter, not answering anything. Shocker /S You have no answer The Answer: It is Not anyone but a woman's responsibility to herself, to maintain her preferred status (pregnant, or Not). Obviously Like I said, "I'm under no delusion that there is a potential for a meeting of the minds, when it comes to philosophical issues about morality, such as issues like these which separate those who value life as something bigger than just an opportunity for self-gratification-- from those like you, who just don't." Besides, you said you were done wasting my time. You tend to deflect and start talking about assaults resulting in conception, and it bears repeating, since you don't seem to get it, "Your strawman argument doesn't withstand scrutiny. Their choice would've been to not be assaulted. Duh-- Obviously they're not choosing to risk pregnancy. How does that elude you? I was discussing the choices to risk unwanted pregnancy, and assault victims are by default not included as their choice was taken from them. So-- knock it off, with your intentionally obtuse strawman arguments. You, shifting focus away from the majority of cases, to the 1%-- as though they're interchangeable is disingenuous at best-- and wavering back and forth in an effort to avoid the truth isn't winning you any points; It is diminishing the potential for you to establish what is currently a non-existent credibility rating even further. The resulting new human life that results from conception, isn't disposable because they were the result of an attack, or because of a poor choice by a woman risking an unwanted pregnancy, or by the failure of preventative birth control, because life is valuable. That's my pov. You've already admitted that you don't think life is valuable, and won't-- until your level of acceptable lifestyle and comfort are 1st established. I don't believe that your version of Utopia is even remotely possible. I know it's difficult for you, but try to discern the difference between avoiding an unwanted pregnancy and avoiding sex. They're not mutually exclusive of one another. Use your imagination (Giving you the benefit of the doubt here)"
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Trans women are a social construct played by men, who wish altering their appearance hid the fact that that they are men
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@mariec3733 Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are inappropriately confusing and conflating gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous and they are not, while simultaneously insisting that biological sex and gender are disconnected-- while failing to realize that a subjective identity doesn't alter anyone's biological reality. Lost souls
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@latte5946 They can't relate... They don't respect themselves
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@Erik-fn7kj Both of your examples, as I already pointed out-- are people talking to others, Not talking to me. My friends, peers, family, and employees refer to me as Zach, sir, or Mr. Petersen, as for the rest-- whatever... I've never had someone refer to me as he or she when speaking to me, because that's not how people talk. If people say whatever they say, when talking to others-- not in my presence-- couldn't care less. If they're just trying to be provocative and be snarky and for example say, Mrs. Petersen-- I let them know I used to work with the developmentally disabled and they didn't seem to have trouble telling the difference, and ask what's their excuse. Once, I had a snarky girl ask when I was going to cut my hair, (insinuating I looked like a girl) It was the 80's back then-- I asked her when she was going to go on Jenny Craig. Her friend spit out her soda laughing at her well deserved pwnage
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@oliverjames2655 That's not much of a refutation, at all. You should perhaps engage and use yours
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@Erik-fn7kj Still not a refutation in sight from you, Eric.
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There is only 1 kind of woman and she's born female. Those dudes weren't and aren't justified being granted access into women's private areas designed based on biology -- Not 'Feelings
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@Maksie0 Your cult terminology is rejected. That is a sufficient enough reason
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Nonetheless, Not all cultures are equal, compatible, nor desirable.... That's why nations have borders.
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That's totally wrong
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@Funnyvidsperson Are debates are a foreign concept to you?
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@markusbaker1161 Why does a misogynistic woman hater, like you ask?
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@markusbaker1161 Be curious... No need to prove anything. You've already proven it, to my satisfaction
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@Lulu-xl5cm That clueless dude is an activist troll. There's no such thing as trans people. There are males and females... That's it. A woman isn't a costume that men can simply put on. Women aren't a social construct. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those men weren't.
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There are 2 genders, 2 sexes and a zillion psych disorders. The narrative is inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament with gender.
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@eveliinahannele Like I said, she'd be the one with the final say on whether she chooses to risk getting herself pregnant or not, by indulging -- So, it seems logical to me that she has more culpability in the matter, especially knowing she doesn't want to have a baby
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@alinnah8266 The one's on welfare with no hospital expenses? That seems redundant. Maybe people should make better choices or quit bitching about things not working out well
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@pixiestick3251 Go play on the freeway
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@mariec3733 Just women. If you know you never want kids, get your tubes tied
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@Erik-fn7kj It's WAY over your head, clown
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@TheeSilentObserverz Yet, they endorse affirmative care. It's totally asinine to attempt to normalize their psych disorders
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@mariec3733 Spoken like a Groomer
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@mariec3733 You haven't been able to make any sense over having biological men being granted access into women's private spaces, despite insisting that sex and gender are separate. Why don't you respect women's rights?
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@mariec3733 1. Of course they're arguing that they're biological women. What do you think it means, when they say a trans woman is a woman? A woman isn't a social construct. 2. Why would anyone need to justify women using women's spaces? 3. I haven't heard men complaining about trans men invading their sports teams, restrooms, locker rooms, Dressing rooms or prisons etc... Have you? 4. This is only speculation, but my best understanding is that very few FtM transgender people have bottom surgery-- so they're more likely to see men being exposed in their girl's shower etc., by allowing biological men who call themselves trans women-- who haven't had bottom surgery, being treated as though they're entitled to be in those women's spaces-- actually allowed in there. NOW, are you going to answer my question or deflect like always, proving you have no integrity?
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@Jhon Dalton The vast vast majority of people don't seem to endorse your narrative which demeans women.
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@Maksie0 What's the swindle? You shouldn't use words you don't know the meaning of, because it makes you look even more ridiculous than you already do
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Perspective is a wonderful thing-- Only in 1% of cases
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Quit conflating personality with gender and gender roles-- as though they're synonymous. They're Not
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@CreativeUsernameEh "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@CreativeUsernameEh I'm not confused about the differences between men and women. I'm clear. The people you're trying to use logic with here though... Not so much
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@laurenlewis5907 If someone rests the entire value of their existence based on their appearance, how is that not pathetic and shallow??
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@Maksie0 You're always triggered and angry. Get help
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@i_love_music-f2m You realize there are LGB conservatives, or maybe you don't
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@mariec3733 There's no such thing as trans. There are males and females... That's it. A woman isn't a costume that men can simply put on. Women aren't a social construct. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those men weren't. Now you know
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@Maksie0 *He... Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@taylorvaden5675 No one is invalidating anyone's existence. They're merely recognizing that he is not a she, or trans anything. That he's still the same sex/gender prior to altering his appearance as he is after-- making them observant
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How would you feel, if the following story happened in your school? "Trans Male Student CHARGED For Beating Up Two Female High School Students In Girls Bathroom!"
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Please never procreate
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@markusbaker1161 Too many more than enough stoopid people breeding, and raising up m0r0ns-- as it is
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Think deeper thoughts. Home schooled kids have friends.
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@batlover1977 Woe to the feminists who buy into this cult ideology. In the near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by men who insist they're women.
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@LiMeiLuv They're gender pretenders. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@TheSands83 Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@entropy7999 It's there when I look. Here it is again... LOL... What do they think they're transitioning to then? It's XX, XY, birth defect or evidence that a psych evaluation and treatment commence immediately, if not sooner. That's It! If some mentally deluded individual identifies as a Pony, it doesn't make it true. I don't care how deeply they believe it. You can put a castrated dog in a dress, and it's still a male dog. Just sayin... You're attempting to rename personality traits-- "gender", and that's wrong too. FYI, Science is not a consensus. People with gender dysphoria are supposedly ex. a woman trapped in a male body and their male gender being immutable, is the justification for such a radical procedure-- seems to destroy your claim rather thoroughly.
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Entropy, It's there when I look. Here it is again... LOL... What do they think they're transitioning to then? It's XX, XY, birth defect or evidence that a psych evaluation and treatment commence immediately, if not sooner. That's It! If some mentally deluded individual identifies as a Pony, it doesn't make it true. I don't care how deeply they believe it. You can put a castrated dog in a dress, and it's still a male dog. Just sayin... You're attempting to rename personality traits-- "gender", and that's wrong too. FYI, Science is not a consensus. People with gender dysphoria are supposedly ex. a woman trapped in a male body and their male gender being immutable, is the justification for such a radical procedure-- seems to destroy your claim rather thoroughly.
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@Leah Bless Too bad that no one on the panel thought to bring up the fact that if the trans-activist ideology were correct, it would prove the gender pay gap a total myth. Their heads may have actually exploded
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Oswald Cobblepot Well, That-- is an incorrect statement
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Oswald Cobblepot Objectively-- a woman is an adult, female, human and she has XY chromosomes
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@joniebear Look, you can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek-- but it doesn't actually transform you into a Klingon. Get a Clue it's XX,XY... That's it, and they are permanent states
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Doesn't seem likely. You're a dude. What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That you can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's your inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you wished they were.
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@feelingveryattackedrn5750 trans/cis is a term used in chemistry to describe the position of molecules to others and has nothing to do with gender whatsoever. All women are born female and all males are born male, making the term irrelevant and useless.
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When you portray yourself as something you aren't-- that's appropriation
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They're virtue signaling. The problem they have is the absence of any actual virtue in any of their unhinged whinging
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They're still women even with the hormones and surgery. They have merely altered their appearance.
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@Maksie0 Inside and out those are men
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They know so much-- that just isn't so
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@Maksie0 They're not a new breed. Those men are still men, despite their costume disguises, that aren't fooling anyone but perhaps themselves
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@Maksie0 That won't make what you're saying true either. Kick Rocks
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How are they-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? Why should those men who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria be granted access to women's private spaces?
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@Maksie0 No thanks to you, I am seeking some intelligent answers to legitimate questions, and NO ONE in the peanut gallery seems to have been able to answer. I find that interesting
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Via asylums
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It's a birth defect, not another gender. The activist narrative is inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament which are not gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys, with gender.
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How would they know, since you don't use pronouns like she/her when speaking directly to people?
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@bgos4727 Forcefully... having a conversation? It was a debate, genius ROFLMFAO
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Because that wouldn't address showers, locker rooms, dressing rooms, sports teams, scholarship opportunities, or job opportunities lost. It's for them to adapt to society, not for society to deny reality, affirm their delusions as though they're based in reality, and participate in the LARP and cosplay
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Mutilation is cutting off or causing injury to a body part of a person, so that the part of the body is permanently damaged. Circumcision isn't That. Are we to believe that you're so concerned about the baby that you advocate for it's termination? Yeah there is definitely something seriously wrong with that. Blows MY mind-- the craziness.
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@mariec7352 You seem very triggered, and confused
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@mariec7352 Unborn children deserve bodily autonomy just like any other human being, and you seem to disagree. Why?
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@mariec3733 I don't expect you to admit to the truth, as you've lied about things I've said many many times, and the comments are all there to validate what I'm saying. I mean it isn't as if you haven't proven that you argue and agitate at every opportunity for sport, while disingenuously engaging in what I'd compare to a phone scammer's ethics, with a politician's evasiveness, failing to ever directly answer a question honestly. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Just pointing out the incoherent things you've said-- and you are desperate to avoid it-- The truth is not subject to your admission, nor your denial. You writing that not all lives are valuable, qualifying-- "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of" (in other words) unless they are sufficiently charitable to a level of your satisfaction, is patently absurd and the amount of ego behind that is unreal. Your narcissism is off-the-hook.
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Exactly correct
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You're already looking at half the panel, which are women
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There is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female, making the use of cis totally irrelevant and useless
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Ignorance can be remedied with valid information, but st00pid is the lack of capacity to absorb relevant factual information and course correct their thinking, making it last forever
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@markusbaker1161 Women are women and men are men-- regardless of how they self-identify, so using cis is redundant and none of anyone's concern but yours and the trans clowns you endorse
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@markusbaker1161 No, men and women are from earth. The term men and women date back thousands of years to the Bible. It's a matter of historical record and reality, with which you are at odds. You Lose
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@markusbaker1161 You're only fooling yourself.
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@markusbaker1161 Fooling yourself into thinking men are women, because you're not fooling me
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@markusbaker1161 You and yours-- the vast vast minority are wrong. People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and prior. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender.
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@Maksie0 Who told you that? ...and, Why do you believe that it's correct??? Have you always had difficulty deciphering the difference between reality and fantasy?
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@Nyowind Personality traits and temperament are being inappropriately conflated as though they're synonymous with gender-- and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively.
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Not even as deep as a baby spoon. Do Better
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@mariec3733 The contrast between the vast majority, and the fringe minority that you represent
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@mariec3733 Men are men, not women and vice versa. They're simply not interchangeable. You go on living in your fantasy realm pretending that trans women are women-- but it doesn't make it so
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@mariec3733 No, i reject your narratives-- and am not interested in indulging your intellectual pablum any longer. You've gone out of your way to be an insufferable twat-- so expecting integrity from you is not logical nor reasonable. You fail to make your case. Deal with it and move on
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Just don't conflate gender (There are 2-- male/female... That's it) with Personality traits and Temperament (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys).
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And what about dressing rooms, locker rooms, changing rooms, sports teams, and prisons? It's a bit deeper than just a bathroom issue
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@markusbaker1161 The women complaining about trans women seem to indicate it's trans women not cis men ruining those places.
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@hiyves9880 That demonstrably entirely incorrect. Dead things or non-living things do not grow and develop. It's alive and going through a natural stage of human development. You don't get to terminate coma patients and call it justified for the same reason. Still human, still alive.
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@hiyves9880 You sure seem to be doing a lot of mental gymnastics to attempt to justify terminating the innocent in the womb. Shameful
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@mariec3733 SO IS Pregnancy. Try engaging your brain for a change
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@auntienyannyan In Utero surgery proves that claim is totally false
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@stinkygremlin267 Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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To pretend that there is another kind of woman, other than those who are born female.
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@Maksie0 Dude-- There is only one kind of woman and they're all born females. Cis is less than useless
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@mariec3733 Oh the irony 🤣🤡🤕
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@mariec3733 You wouldn't understand. We are mocking you though... so that's fun-- watching you double and triple down on your single digit IQ analysis
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@glassesyouneed6876 Happy, well-adjusted people don't tend to self-delete and certainly not in the numbers attributed to the trans community. Just sayin...
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@glassesyouneed6876 Not much of a rebuttal. It's clear you don't know much about reality. Feel free to cope harder about the fact that you're not the center of the universe, and that people don't care about your subjective identity, which is at odds with objective reality.
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@glassesyouneed6876 You seem to not only appear to be arguing for the sake of argument, but you seem to have difficulty recognizing the difference between reality and fantasy. shocker... You fail to persuade.
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Nothing about that unhinged dude says feminine or woman. Hideous cross-dresser is how I perceive him
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That's not a question
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@Maksie0 That wrong! Then, they'd just be women. They're men who are trans
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@markusbaker1161 Nah... it's just that facts and the truth that trans women are men is foreign to you, so you don't know what to make of it
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@bareq99 It has nothing to do with gender. Get a clue
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Karen's everywhere are verbally abusing strangers-- everyday-- trans or not. Welcome to the world
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@thecolorblue1635 It wasn't me. Perhaps the tech censors, thought my comment was too close to the truth and exposed their incoherent narrative for the idiocy that it portrays
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@thecolorblue1635 Ahh... Well, unlike you-- I don't require your validation Opinions... Some say, some opinions are more equal than others Some say, Opinions are like a-holes... Everybody has one and... I say, opinions are like orgasms... Mine is more important than yours and I don't care if you have one. I'm not your therapist Thanks for sharing though
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Islamophobe
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@Watashiwastarr 😏😇
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@mariec3733 Perhaps, because you've proven to be uninteresting, and nothing more than an antagonistic, activist troll
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@heyhey8528 Try Again??
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@heyhey8528 You can neuter you dog and make him wear a dress and it doesn't make him a female dog, anymore than conjoined twins are expressing a spectrum of the human design. It's a birth defect in their cases. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent and they aren't affected by "Feelings"
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@heyhey8528 Transgenders suffer from the Mental Disorder referred to as Gender Dysphoria., per the American Psychiatric Association, in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorder (DSM-5), pp 451-459, sections 302.6.and 302.85 1
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@localdenjifan Logic, reason, and the intellectual capacity to process both are not their strong suit. These trans-activist agent provocateurs have a real problem, and it's that the vast majority reject their mentally unstable, and delusional subjective fantasy
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More like a Cult
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@judyrocha1724 CPS may have another view of that theory
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@mirrormaize No... If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity?
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@markusbaker1161 I asked you 1st, why do you hate women so much and have such disdain and disrespect for them that you would advocate that men should be able to infiltrate their private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams??
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@markusbaker1161 The question hinges on why you would advocate that men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? You still haven't addressed that
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@markusbaker1161 You would, if you had any integrity, and you'd refute that which is untrue or incorrect-- if you could. That you don't speaks volumes about your relevance and competence
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@markusbaker1161 Nonetheless, my observations regarding your comments are that you have not illustrated any respect for women and their private spaces by advocating in favor of men being allowed to infiltrate their spaces. Why, according to you-- should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim that they're women.
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@markusbaker1161 Why, according to you-- should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Don't be afraid to answer the question. Focusing on nonsense that avoids addressing the elephant in the room, which is that you've failed to answer the above question, much less justify it's consideration should be taken seriously by anyone.
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@Maksie0 They're misgendering themselves. If your self-perceived identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must affirm your self-perception, which is contrary to objective reality-- then your identity is not valid.
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@markusbaker1161 I didn't quote you. I was asking you to justify your position on why should men-- (trans or traditional) be allowed to infiltrate women's spaces, and you failed. Your response is not an answer to the question.
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@markusbaker1161 The only thing relevant is that you haven't and that you can't. It's unjustifiable
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So, don't victimize an innocent child-- just because you were. Seems logical
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@intoxic_idiot Well, Morning-after pills can help prevent pregnancy if you've had unprotected sex — either because you didn't use birth control, you missed a birth control pill, you were sexually assaulted, or your method of birth control failed. Morning-after pills do NOT end a pregnancy that has implanted. They work primarily by delaying or preventing ovulation, And are standard protocol for rape victims already, are they not? Only 1% of abortion cases are rape victims... Just sayin Nice try though
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@Tomb-Wraith You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to be like a Klingon, and give you hormones etc... and it doesn't actually make you a Klingon, whether you REALLY believe it or not. In the battle between Reality vs Fantasy-- Reality wins
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@Tomb-Wraith No... Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female-- respectively. Male and Female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent The ideology is inappropriately conflating the variability in temperament and personality traits (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys)-- as gender, and that's a huge error on your/their part-- for those who embrace the narrative
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@ItsSchwifty No, that's to 'parent'.
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@ItsSchwifty How many children have you raised/parented that you didn't 'Father', compared to those who you have fathered and parented?
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@Maksie0 There is only 1 kind of woman, and she's born female-- but you already know that which is what makes using cis a slur
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Both are redundant. The only kind of women are biological, and the only kind of females are biological. The word women refers to adults, and the word female covers the age spectrum from newborn to mature adult
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@Milo-nr9kc The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay. There's no hatred involved in recognizing that someone is not that which they claim to be-- It's just being observant of objective reality
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@markusbaker1161 No they aren't. They're men. There appears to be a prerequisite to being considered a trans-woman, and that's being male. There is no science which shows that trans-women aren't males. The fact that people want to pretend otherwise doesn't change objective reality
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@markusbaker1161 No, it does not. Cite the source of the "science" you keep referring to.
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@markusbaker1161 The burden of proof is on those who are claiming that trans-women are women, to prove that they're no longer men. :text-green-game-over::person-turqouise-waving:
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@markusbaker1161 The biology is already established, validating my statements. The psych science validates my statements as well. Dissociative disorders are clearly defined as involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self.
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@markusbaker1161 You're talking about males and females w/ dissociative disorders-- Got it! Nothing you've written invalidates anything I've written. Dissociative disorders which are clearly defined as involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self. Some people suffer w/ both-- None of which invalidate the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species.
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They're women. Why would they?
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It was actually predictable
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@m1lkyways Nonetheless, Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@Maksie0 There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are
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@Maksie0 In the absence of any substantive refutation, I suppose I can understand why you'd be triggered enough to resort to pre-teen sorts of comments. 🙄
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How is it not? The reality of cause and affect would have to be recognized.
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@mariec3733 I realize we're mocking you
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@mariec3733 Yes... LOL That you don't get it, makes it even funnier. 🤣
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@mariec3733 The few women who may exist (Definitely not the majority of women) who don't know they're risking pregnancy, when they choose to engage in the one and only act which causes their unwanted pregnancy; How smart are they? I can name that tune in No notes. There is nothing courageous, righteous, or virtuous in that which you advocate in favor. It's not anyone's responsibility to insure the status of a woman (Pregnant or not), who determines that a pregnancy is unwanted, but the women's themselves.
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@mariec3733 Consenting to and facilitating the one and only act which causes pregnancy, is the choice which is the root cause for ALL pregnancy-- wanted, or unwanted. Obviously, rape doesn't involve consent of any kind.
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@mariec3733 That's wrong, but that's ok... You can blame your ignorance
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@mariec3733 Because, the topic is women's unwanted pregnancies. Try to focus. Your failure to exercise the power of discernment when you neglect to consider that there's a difference between avoiding an unwanted pregnancy, and avoiding 'sex' (a broad term)-- leads you to flawed understanding, and conclusions
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@mariec3733 The title of the video indicates that you're WAY off base with your conclusion regarding the topic. 🤣
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More like watching the rise of Babylon. We are witnessing the seed of the serpent vs the seed of the woman
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@dwaffeine7995 Has reading comprehension always been a challenge for you?
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@mariec3733 Mental illness certainly has been around for a long time
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@aeiou4089 I'm not your sugar-daddy. Quit projecting
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@aeiou4089 Oh how cute-- you think you're edgy. Have you always been anti-social, and lonely?
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The self-deletion rates after the procedure, doesn't show well for the effectiveness of affirmation based treatment protocols, and calls into question the ethics of the medical and psych "professionals" who facilitate those procedures.
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@nel8497 Ooh... I know this... The depraved, the morally bankrupt, the intellectually stunted and the mentally compromised
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@Maksie0 In what way? That said, they don't appear to be mentally ill. 🤔
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It looks like they still haven't figured out that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender yet. That's the root of their confusion
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They're LARPing at BEST
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@GAYmergirl709 No, they are not. They are males. A woman is an adult human female, and they are not that. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after.
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@GAYmergirl709 Not a persuasive argument on your part.
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That doesn't exactly solve the issues w/ locker rooms, changing rooms, showers or prisons... That's why ;)
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@Danielmite17 Yes, they're men w/ issues-- pretending to be women, without issues
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There is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female
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They aren't trans anything. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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People who suffer severe anxiety over their confusion-- when faced with having to select the appropriate restroom aren't likely to have a well-balanced sense of perspective, rationality, or intellectual capacity for coming to intelligent conclusions. Just sayin...
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Yes, it is. You're conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament (neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), with gender. It's XX, XY, Birth defect/anomaly, or mental illness... That's it
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@areyoudumb4372 The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule-- They prove the rule-- hence being the exceptions. Intersex is not indicative of another gender in what is the binary in ALL mammalian species. It's a biological abnormality, not dissimilar to conjoined twins indicating a new human stage in evolution; In other words-- It doesn't at all. 🤔😏
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@areyoudumb4372 I never said there was only XX, or XY. I said, anomalies and birth defects are not another gender invalidating the binary norm
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@areyoudumb4372 It's as though you're unable to assimilate the information I've already provided, due to a severe case of cognitive dissonance. Again, You're conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament (neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), with gender. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects associated with being either male or female, and is interconnected with biology-- as male and female are permanent and a fixed biological category/status. It's XX, XY, Birth defect/anomaly, or mental illness... That's it
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@areyoudumb4372 Don't dish it out if you can't take it and expect it in return; Nonetheless, I'm Always happy to try to help those who are confused and in need of clarification as to how and why their narrative is incoherent. It's difficult, when you're apparently unwilling or unable to decipher and address the relevant info, and instead get triggered and avoid dealing with it-- as you have here, with yet another irrelevant comment that refutes nothing whatsoever. Best of luck with that
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@areyoudumb4372 You have failed to make your case, or refute anything. I recommend being relevant in the future, instead of choosing to double down on idiocy
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@BenDover-gc6qe No, not literally. There's no irrational fear in recognizing that someone is not that which they present themselves as. That's just being observant of objective reality. Recognizing that a kid in a Halloween costume-- is in fact, a kid in a Halloween costume doesn't display any phobia either.
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@shion3948 The truth matters
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You don't want to risk pregnancy-- Don't. No one is forcing anyone to indulge in promiscuity and facilitate the risk
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Ya, that dude is unhinged
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@mariec3733 ❄❄🧁🧁
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The nervous system is in fact a result of DNA. Quit conflating gender with personality traits and temperament
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@markusbaker1161 Kick Rocks Groomer
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 @markusbaker1161 Not unlike the word woman, which apparently gives you difficulty as well
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, in that you don't seem able to define either. Your 1st comment here was an insult to me, and you're now whining about me being offensive? You get what you give. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 I haven't had but 2 interactions with someone on the other side of the topic engage with integrity. The VAST majority have been nonsense, and without substance.
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@markusbaker1161 Altering one's structure and a wardrobe doesn't change one's sex/gender. That's a fact
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Quit inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament which are not gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys, with gender.
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Should've been men with issues vs women
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@petemiller2920 Recognizing that someone is not that which they claim to be isn't hateful or bigotry-- it's merely a matter of being observant
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@petemiller2920 Really?? Really??? By saying trans-women are women. A woman is an adult, human, female, and they're not that.
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@greenlanternhaljordan4974 Says the person who insists on preferred pronouns, which defy objective reality/facts. How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition, and are then considered "rational"?
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Because gender and sex aren't disconnected. Gender is not a social construct. Gender roles are a social construct, and too many are seemingly unable to process that distinction. We're suppose to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe? Why?? They're misgendering themselves. They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior traits. I mean... C'mon now. It's ludicrous.
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What? There's no justification for terminating the innocent in the womb, regardless of race.
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@mariec7352 So? It's my point. Suck it up Buttercup
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@Maksie0 Has reality always presented you with cognitive dissonance?
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Nope, they're still going to be women-- wishing they were men
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There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females... Those dudes weren't and aren't ANY kind of woman
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Correlation is not causation. There are only two choices throughout history; Male and Female. Most men and women throughout history have been ruled over and oppressed by tyrannical leaders and they had no say about it
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The difference is, one doesn't remove the other from the gene pool and affirm delusions as reality, and one does
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"Tolerance will reach such a level, that intelligent people will be banned from thinking, so as not to offend the imbeciles"-- Dostoievski
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@Chloeprettyoccasionally You fail to persuade. Do Better
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@Maksie0 He says, while throwing around slurs.
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@Maksie0 We're not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe
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@blahajlife8259 The sewer slide rate after transition remaining the same as prior to transition, shows that it actually doesn't work AT ALL
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@blahajlife8259 The sewerslide rate is still around 40%, which to me-- doesn't illustrate many happy well-balanced individuals, or indicate effective treatment by any standard measure. Hope that clears it up for you
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There are tons of videos of females and beta male snowflakes losing their minds over election results doing exactly that.
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It is their insistence that others-- who are already minding their own business, participate in their LARP and cosplay, by insisting on the grammatically incorrect use of pronouns, and with no regard for the displacement of women's privacy, which is at the root of how you brought your business to them, making it their business. Irony or idiocy?
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@TheALfever Yes, gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. You're inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@krasmasov6852 Not much of a refutation. Too bad no one pointed out that if the trans-activist's ideology were correct, it would prove the gender pay gap, the justification for affirmative action, and the patriarchy, that the activists are always whinging about-- to be a total myth
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@krasmasov6852 Because if gender were fluid, it would render those concepts void. You never bothered to support your claim that what was written was wrong
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@krasmasov6852 Because if gender is fluid, talking about gender discrimination would be ludicrous, as It would have no meaningful connection to anything at all. Woman: Gender discrimination = Bad Also Woman: Gender is fluid Both can't be true
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@krasmasov6852 If gender is fluid and only known to the individual, how can you determine the gender of someone being accused of gender discrimination? Your analytical capacity is severely stunted if you can't make the connection. I blame cognitive dissonance The narrative suggests that gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity. Both can't be true, showing the narrative is incoherent.
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@krasmasov6852 Don't need to ask. Male or Female are the choices. It's really not complicated, but you want to blur the lines so-- there it is. If the male who's accused of gender discrimination against a female, but says he identifies as a female, is it still gender discrimination? Your idiocy seems permanent
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@krasmasov6852 LOL!!! . How can there be a gender pay gap, if gender is fluid?
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@haydensargent1752 All women are in control of their bodies and when they choose to risk getting pregnant, who-- if not themselves, is responsible for their choice to achieve the avoidable unwanted pregnancy? Just sayin...
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@haydensargent1752 No I haven't, but I put into perspective that the other 99% of cases are not a result of a violent attack, where the woman's choice to consent to the risk of pregnancy is void. How do you fail to recognize that?? Also, typically in a rape situation, is it not common protocol for a morning after treatment to avoid the potential pregnancy-- bypassing the costs of more food?
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@mariec3733 So?
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@idde4345 No, it is not. They self delete in rates significantly higher than they did in the past, prior to affirmation-based treatment protocols being implemented, despite being more accepted than ever before-- showing that affirmation treatment can't be justified as being efficacious, and the rate of self deletes are significantly higher than the general population so-- NO, you don't help people with delusions by affirming their delusions as though they're based in reality. Would you affirm an anorexic's feelings of needing to lose more weight, by encouraging them to lose a few more pounds??? I would hope not. That would be cruel, as it is to affirm the delusions of those with psych issues
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@derekrequiem4359 Too bad nobody asked if the pro-trans agenda intended to prove that the gender pay gap is a myth, by maintaining the ideology's insistence that gender is separate from biology and fluid.
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Having a plastic surgeon change your appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek, doesn't actually make you a Klingon. Same is true regarding gender transition surgery. Still, XX or XY
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Real friends tell the truth
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@Tylerd838 Those who insist that trans-women are women. They are not
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@bluepearl_22 Because it is like that, only much more severe. If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity?
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But that still doesn't address locker rooms, dressing rooms, and prisons
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A hairy dude in a dress screaming, "It's MA'AM" does't make him a woman and similarly-- a kid wearing a halloween costume doesn't transform into a vampire, the Hulk or anything else, in reality
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@saintshrooms9424 It's all about me me me me me, my time, me me me me me." I demand you address meeeeeeee in all manner I want because meeeeee is a gift to be in meeeeeeee presence." Having a plastic surgeon change your appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek, doesn't actually make you a Klingon. Same is true regarding gender transition surgery. Still, XX or XY. Get a Clue
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@krasmasov6852 I seriously doubt it. I can see how someone like you, who has a massive comprehension deficit would have a problem recognizing the differences between men and women though. I mean the definition of woman gave you difficulty-- So, it's not a far stretch Correct pronoun usage is gaged by an objective observational categorization, as the standard. That Ma'am character, and Zoey Turr-- I call those guys, "Dude", "Sir", "Mister", if I'm not using their names-- which is what I tend to do rather than indulge the preferred pronoun usage of the psychologically unbalanced. What's your point??
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They're men and have no business in a woman's private space. PERIOD
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If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity?
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Well, I'm not sad that millions of innocent lives are no longer at risk
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@freedommatters7677 You put them in there. What are you rambling about, like you have no culpability?
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They're inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) with gender. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. These delusional living memes illustrate the need for more asylums. They're not 'trans' ANYTHING. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after. The error in the race reference is conflating race with cultures.
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@GrahamChapman You should try being relevant for a change. Only 2 genders-- Male and Female. Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@mariec3733 No confusion here, troll. I've given you the definition of gender. Gender refers to the sex observed/assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. You're conflating gender and gender roles as though they're synonymous and they are not. You're inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive -- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender, as though they're synonymous and they aren't. That's incorrect as well. Gender roles are the social construct you're relying on to make your argument, and they do not invalidate biology. You seem confused about those facts.
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@mariec3733 Like I said, you're conflating gender and gender roles which are long established. If as you're suggesting gender is a mere social construct, it makes my point nonetheless, as it illustrates that trans is merely a social construct that in no way invalidates the objective reality of biology. Next???
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@mariec3733 When questioned about it, you refused to explain the lack of logic behind your endorsement. When corrected, regarding the law, when given the legal definition of a woman being an adult, human, female-- YOU ignored it. When pointed out that science distinguishes the differences between the sexes, you switch to talking about social constructs, insisting that women are a social construct. That is anti-science dear. The problem you have is You-- and the narratives you present are wrong, and you haven't attempted to make it make sense-- when challenged on your beliefs.
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@hauntedvfxx trans people's problems aren't the problems of the rest of the world. Trans women are men with issues, pretending they're women without issues.
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I've noticed a pattern of parents utilizing your suggested approach, having their kid's grow up with tons of problems. How many kids have you raised who've become happy, well-adjusted, productive members of society? There is no hate involved in recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim. That's just being observant of objective reality.
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No... Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then your identity is not valid.
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@Mr.JoeBangles They're dudes. What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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To all the feminists who go along to get along w/ this incoherent ideology-- I wish you well in the near dystopian future, where you'll now be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will say they're women too.
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In the case of women choosing to facilitate their own risk of pregnancy-- there is no one else to blame for their unwanted pregnancy-- but them, and nobody forced them to do that..
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@TheLegendOfRandy Try to focus... The topic is women's unwanted pregnancies, not men's unwanted pregnancies
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@conor.3875 Suck it up, Buttercup. Like it or not-- it's True
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@Anon Ymous No-- they did not. You don't pay child support to mothers for children, who's live's they've terminated, and as a single dad who raised my own without the mother in the picture, I paid ZERO child support to her-- so, No I don't agree
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@Anon Ymous If consent to sex is consent to financial responsibility, then women don't have the option to terminate the offspring they facilitated, rather they have a financial responsibility to raise the child. You think a man's desire or not regarding a woman's pregnancy removes the woman's ability to think for herself, or magically changes her mind regarding her desire and obligation to herself to avoid an unwanted pregnancy?
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@Anon Ymous The act which requires 2 doesn't happen unless a woman chooses to let it. She has the final say and is the responsible party for risking her pregnancy, no one else but her
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@Anon Ymous Women are responsible for their choices regarding risking their avoidable unwanted pregnancy's when they facilitate it and no one else but them is responsible
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@Anon Ymous No, it doesn't. You think being assaulted is a choice, and that women orchestrate and facilitate their own assault? Well... that is a 1st. Try re-reading what I actually wrote, only slower this time, so you don't miss the pertinent words again.
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@berryminion277 What's your point?
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@berryminion277 It's unfair that other people have preferences regarding the personality traits and temperament of those with whom they associate? How is that unfair?
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@VictoriaLeigh313 Exactly
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@Maksie0 Those delusional chics are not men at all
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@nkkenlken3220 Quit conflating Gender (There are only 2 male/female), with Personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive--hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles (ALL refer to the roles of males and females in society, ALL are steeped in tradition, with long-standing historical context based in reality, and vary from culture to culture, society to society and country to country), as though they're all synonymous. They simply aren't. A woman isn't a social construct, feeling or a costume. Women (ALL of them)are born female, making the use of cis/trans intellectually stunted, useless and totally irrelevant. Now you know better
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They're not "trans" anything. Still Human, Still Male or Female, as they were when they were born, respectively -- just now with what amounts to an elaborate disguise in the gender binary-- more akin to a drag queen, or cosplay with a dash of psych disorder.
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Masculinity, femininity, assertiveness, agreeableness, etc. are personality traits not exclusive to gender. That's why there are butch females and effeminate men, but make no mistake about it. Male and female are the only 2 choices, and they are permanent conditions regardless of the means of disguise.
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Welcome to today. BTW your sex organs don't qualify you to be on the court
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@nataliemiller8394 Merit is the qualification, and I reject the victimized mentality on principle.
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@yepitsjilly If you believe that gender and sex are separate, then gender doesn't affect your biology so it's redundant
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@yepitsjilly Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are inappropriately confusing and conflating gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous and they are not, while simultaneously insisting that biological sex and gender are disconnected-- while failing to realize that a subjective identity doesn't alter anyone's biological reality. That being the case, justify those men being granted access to women's private spaces.
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@yepitsjilly That doesn't justify those biological men being granted access to women's private spaces. Didn't your genders studies course prepare you to articulate why, and how you believe what you've been taught is true and correct, when scrutinized to a such a degree which exposes the logical inconsistencies and incoherence observed with it?? Try Again?
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@Maksie0 Rejection. Get used to it
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Speaking of facts-- The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are factually, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Thoughts??
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@krasmasov6852 Sure, if you're going to talk about yourself in the 3rd person, but that's it
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They're narcissists
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You misunderstand... Being overly-emotionally reactive and 'Feelings and emotionalism' is what that whole point was referring to, as I see it.
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@sotera8284 There's no hate in recognizing that they are not that which they claim to identify as, or in recognizing a psych disorder when it presents itself and regulating the exposure of one's children from those with "issues"
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@ente7890 To what, do you attribute your failure to recognize that the majority of ab0rti0ns aren't performed on married women, and realize how that illustrates your comment to be intellectually hollow?
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They're f'n nutz
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@keefecarroll1985 There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women, illustrating that the trans narrative is a totally bogus, faith-based cult belief with zero evidence to support the claim that trans women are women.
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@keefecarroll1985 Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh
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@marisamorais3150 There's only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female, making the cis distinction irrelevant
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Some? They're women
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@Maksie0 Nope. ALL women are born female, and that dude wasn't-- and isn't ANY kind of woman
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The trans-activist ideology is anti-woman. To the feminists who go along to get along with this incoherent ideology-- Best of Luck, in your not too far off dystopian future, where you'll be oppressed by tyrannical men who now will say, they're women too. How's that for the 'NEW' brand of male privilege? How would male privilege exist, if gender was fluid-- and disconnected from biology? Answer: It wouldn't
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The answer is extremely simple.
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@MontyQueues I don't use more than 1 account. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or elevate their character to more than a base animal?
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@rowan6021 Nah, societies are based in reality, unlike the trans-activists cult narratives. There's no fear in recognizing that someone is not that which they present themselves. That's just being observant. That sound you're hearing is the sound of males and females everywhere rejecting the incoherent trans, cult ideology for the madness that it is.
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different compared to what?
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@Maksie0 Nope, just confused boys (males) and girls (females). Get a grip on reality
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Wait... They said gender is fluid and disconnected from biology, so how then, is there male privilege? It's incoherent
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@conor.3875 There's still no science anywhere proving that men can become women, and until there is-- Your narrative remains bogus
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@conor.3875 No Sh*t
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@rayy__7630 So are cross dressers and those who call themselves trans. They're LARPing and engaging in extreme cosplay
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@badussywar8938 You sound like you're trying to defend being an Islamophobe
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Because they're not trans ANYTHING. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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@Maksie0 Then stay out, and quit your sniveling.
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No, intersex is a birth defect-- not a separate gender
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There is only one kind of woman, and as it turns out-- the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. It's not a costume men can put on and take off, and it's not a personality quirk that the activist narratives conflate with gender.
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@markusbaker1161 Having bottom surgery doesn't make them a woman anymore than neutering a dog transforms him into a female dog, which is not at all.
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@markusbaker1161 That makes them eunuchs, not women of any kind. You can pretend otherwise if you like
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@markusbaker1161 Yours is the caricature of women. I never claimed to represent the trans community. Your ideology and narratives-- are rejected by the majority of people. The only one's fooled by your disguises are you
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@markusbaker1161 I don't care what you said. See the original post. You've not proven it incorrect, and until you do-- whatever you say is irrelevant noise.
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@markusbaker1161 Science has already proven that the binary dichotomy of all mammals is male and female, and that 'that' status is fixed and permanent. What's amusing is that you think you're being clever. It's pathetic that you need proof of the difference between males and females.
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@Maksie0 Yes, it is
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@mariec3733 Google is your friend
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@blackblackblack7773 It doesn't appear they do much actual thinking at all. Just triggered outbursts, as a cry for attention.
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@oatmilk4breakfast It's not true that men can become women and vice versa. THAT's a Fact
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@oatmilk4breakfast No, I said it. How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@TheLegendOfRandy I'll try to break it down for you... Life is valuable, not disposable, and advocating in favor of terminating children is devoid of virtue, honor, and morality.
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition, and are then considered "rational"?
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You don't. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) w/ gender
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LOL... There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Trans women are men with issues, pretending that they're women without issues. Take your time to process
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How about you raise your kids and leave the worrying about other people's kids to their parents?
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@ABagOfPotatoes How does that manifest in ex. Saudi Arabia?
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Only when speaking for yourself -- and then your choices are limited to I, Me, My-- unless you're talking about yourself in the 3rd person, which is pretty weird. You should get a refund from your English grammar teachers. You don't get to choose the one's that others use, when speaking about you to someone else. 1st person pronouns are grouped into 5 categories: Subject pronouns 1st person "I", Object pronouns 1st person "Me", possessive adjectives 1st person "My", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Mine", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Myself" 2nd person: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourself" 3rd person (Male): Subject pronouns 3rd person "He", Object pronouns 3rd person "Him", possessive adjectives 3rd person "His", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "His", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Himself" 3rd person (Female): Subject pronouns 3rd person "She", Object pronouns 3rd person "Her", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Her", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Hers", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Herself" 3rd Thing: Subject pronouns 3rd thing "It", Object pronouns 3rd thing "It", possessive adjectives 3rd thing "Its", Possessive pronouns 3rd thing "Not Used", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd thing "Itself" 1st person plural: Subject pronouns "We", Object pronouns 1st person "Us", possessive adjectives 1st person "Our", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Ours", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Ourselves" 2nd person plural: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourselves" 3rd person and (thing) plural: Subject pronouns "They", Object pronouns "Them", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Their", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Theirs", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Themselves". Now stop embarrassing yourself.
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@J It's seems that they can't truly accept themselves, but think and act as though others should respect them, and accept them for who and what they'd rather be, as opposed to who and what they really are, and that upsets them? Does that about sum it up?
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@handsomeboi3767 E X A C T L Y Correct
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Need more asylums for those sorts
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@olaholm2531 If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? crickets The trans ideology is incoherent
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@clumsy_zebra_97 Those insisting on everyone's participation with their preferred pronoun usage. Why do you ask?
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 @markusbaker1161 Unlike you, I actually answered their question, dear.
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@markusbaker1161 What you assert are facts are bogus assertions by hacks, and what you assert is evidence is nonsense based on a misguided premise. I asked you why you believe what you're asserting are facts and evidence are true and correct, and you refused to articulate why you believe it to be true and accurate.
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@markusbaker1161 I already have, to my satisfaction.
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@markusbaker1161 No evidence to explain why you believe what you assert to be true and accurate, or to prove what I said to be inaccurate-- That's certain. Those hacks you refer to as experts are challenged by their peers in the medical community, who take issue with the ethics and treatment protocols of those who you put your faith in. Your cult is rejected.
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@markusbaker1161 If you think you can debunk what I said-- Go for it. You haven't yet. No trace of an explanation of why you believe what you assert to be true and accurate, or to prove what I said to be inaccurate-- That's certain. Those hacks you refer to as experts are challenged by their peers in the medical community, who take issue with the ethics and treatment protocols of those who you put your faith in. Your cult is rejected.
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@markusbaker1161 HAHAHAHA That's all you do is deflect, and obfuscate. You've proven nothing. I couldn't care less that they have a self-perception contradictory to objective reality, existing only in their imagination. Observing that they aren't that which they present themselves (ie. women), is merely the power of observation. It's not indicative of my feelings about it. The burden of proof is on those who wish they rest of the world to accept their ideological narrative as true and correct-- and in that, you have failed to persuade.
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@markusbaker1161 Still, No trace of an explanation of why you believe what you assert to be true and accurate, or to prove what I said to be inaccurate. You still fail to persuade
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@clumsy_zebra_97 I'll play... There are 2 genders (Male and female). Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender-- as though they're synonymous, and they are not. Then, they're conflating the difference between gender (Biological) and gender roles (Socially constructed around being male or female,respectively). Then, they conflate sex with gender roles as though they're synonymous, when they say trans women are women. That's grammatically incorrect as well. A woman is an adult, human female, and those men w/ gender dysphoria are not that. .It's no wonder they're confused. Respect is earned and it's reserved for that which is respectable. I reject the cult narrative.
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@markusbaker1161 Still, No trace of an explanation of why you believe what you assert to be true is accurate, or to prove what I said to be inaccurate.
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@markusbaker1161 Why would there be? That's not my case. That's you trying to intentionally and incorrectly frame a narrative, and assign it to me, as though I ever indicated any such thing. People are valid. In reality, trans women are men, and trans men are women. They're still valid people, and I don't know why you have the idea that 'my case' suggests they aren't
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@markusbaker1161 Still, No trace of an explanation of why you believe what you assert to be true is accurate, or to prove what I said to be inaccurate.
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@markusbaker1161 That's incorrect. Why do you keep saying that? I recognize people just fine. People are valid. What is your malfunction?
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@markusbaker1161 People have rights... What are you talking about?
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@markusbaker1161 Are those people you're talking about, or social constructs? I ask because you said gender was a social construct
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@markusbaker1161 What??? You're the one who tries to make silly distinctions, by insisting that sex and gender are separate and disconnected-- Not me. I disagree. I am just trying to have a clear understanding of what you were asking. Science says, People are biological beings, existing in objective reality. They are categorized scientifically as humans, and humans are mammals, and all mammals are all male or female, respectively-- as is the binary dichotomy of ALL mammals. People (Males and females) create social constructs. Social constructs don't create people (Males and females). Social constructs don't alter biology, so calling trans women-- women is grammatically incorrect, as it would be to use a she/her pronoun for a male who's only female in their imagination. Don't get me wrong,you're free to play along if you choose, but in reality-- still men
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@markusbaker1161 Not interested in your intellectual diarrhea, or cult terminology. People have rights. Now what?
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@markusbaker1161 i challenged what you assert are facts with questions about the conclusions of those who you're putting your faith in and why you believe they're correct, and you had no response but disingenuous antagonism, deflection, and playing the part of a fool. I am still open to having an intellectually sound, adult conversation with anyone interested, but you seem to instead prefer juvenile sparring sessions free from integrity. That's your choice, but it isn't conducive to a productive dialogue-- so that's where we're at.
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@markusbaker1161 They were questions. You didn't answer them. You're totally disingenuous, making yourself obsolete. I asked you why you believe those who you're putting your faith in are correct. Apparently that stumps you.
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@markusbaker1161 You've already rendered yourself obsolete to me. I reject your pushed narrative entirely,and you haven't given anyone a reason not to
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@markusbaker1161 Total nonsense. Your assertion is false-- Again. My definition of a woman is the legal and scientific definition of a woman. A woman is an adult, human, female. I'm not interested in anything you have to say, unless it's an explanation as to why you believe those who you're putting your faith in, are correct, when their peers have articulated why they have issues with the conclusions, treatment protocols, and outcomes of their treatment. Why do you dismiss the opposing medical experts and professional's assessment?
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@markusbaker1161 Nope. I support their choice to risk themselves getting pregnant, by engaging in the 1 and only act which causes their totally avoidable unwanted dilemma-- but it isn't as though they aren't aware of the risks.
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@markusbaker1161 There is no such rite, as the rite to terminate the innocent
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@markusbaker1161 My reply would disappear if I spelled it correctly, so I chose to spell it that way-- and it showed up. Weird huh? Gaslight harder
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@markusbaker1161 Nope,tried 3x's. It doesn't matter You're still avoiding justifying men being granted access into women's private spaces, and how that is standing up for their rites
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@markusbaker1161 You lose
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@markusbaker1161 Oh yes. You lost before you started. Women are women, and men are men-- regardless of how they self-identify, so using cis is redundant, and none of anyone's concern but yours. trans clown
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@markusbaker1161 HAHA, I already won. You already lost before you got started. If you want to lie to yourself and pretend that those men are women-- go ahead. You're the only one being played
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@markusbaker1161 There are definitely lots of confused people; Sadly, the law won't stop a significant percentage of those who you're focused on (near 40%), from self-deleting.
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@markusbaker1161 No, that doesn't explain it.
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@ItsSchwifty That isn't much of a refutation
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Ask them how are men-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but wear dresses and present as females, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? Then ask, Why those men who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria should be granted access to women's private spaces?
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, the idiocy of your narrative being what it is, it is hilarious that you buy into any of it
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@markusbaker1161 Just know that in the future, when you insist on your preferred pronouns idiocy, the response will be "I don't care", and it'll be delivered with a smile. I've already exposed the idiocy of your narrative's claims that trans women are women to be ridiculous I know you haven't answered with integrity or honesty, and I don't presume that you will. Kick Rocks Blossom
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@markusbaker1161 Dismiss yourself. You got owned by your own foolishness
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Because people are only male or female, respectively. Women (ALL of them) are born female. A woman isn't a feeling, social construct or a costume. What one "goes through" or their 'feelings' don't alter objective reality in the slightest bit.
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The rate of self-delete even after transition raises the question of efficacy and highlights the questionable ethics of those who are promoting the affirmation-based treatment protocols.
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@nutellaJar Your failure to realize that correlation is not causation is epic
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No-- Restrooms are based on biology, not their sensitive feelings
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No, half of them were women
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@ILovePink-x1v No, half of them only looked the part
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@nathanmccoy9188 Clearly. One is an adult and the other is ambiguous on that detail. Define woman
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@chali8762 How do you figure? Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They appear to be misgendering themselves. How are they not?
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@markusbaker1161 Yup, no answers to my questions. Same silence
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@markusbaker1161 I just put it out there to expose the intellectual inconsistency of the narrative. The lack of direct answers speaks volumes, and leaves my assertions standing as valid, as they are unrefuted.
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@markusbaker1161 😏😶‍🌫
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Not all trans people suffer with dysphoria (OR, are the trans-activists saying that they all do?), but they all do have a way higher risk of self deleting than the rest of the of the general population, so I see it as a more pressing underlying issue to address, than a mere matter of cosmetics. The argument in favor of affirmative care is, if you don't let them transition that they'll self-delete. Well, they seem to do that even if you do let them transition, so as far as I'm concerned it's an invalid argument. Not having coping mechanisms to deal with the adversity one faces in life is a psych issue, that surgery doesn't alleviate-- which begs the questioning of affirmation-based treatment protocols, along with the ethics of those who do
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@mariec3733 Listen carefully... That sound is the sound of women and men wholesale, rejecting the woke trans activist ideological narrative for the bull 💩 that it is. You better get used to it. Just ask Budweiser
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@criscrosxxx 😏
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As opposed to Northern, Southern, Eastern (Asian, African or Middle Eastern) Men? How so and what do you attribute that to?
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@Maria-oh1nq Because they're from the west. You didn't know that?
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@Maria-oh1nq They are predominately located in North and South America, which is in the Western Hemisphere of the earth. This is not a controversial fact. How they may or may not view themselves is irrelevant to that fact. What's your point?
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@Maria-oh1nq And you realize that 'Latin America' is located in the Western Hemisphere on the earth, yes?
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@Maria-oh1nq Quit your whining
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@Maria-oh1nq Your comments look like whining to me. You wrote, "the only ones whining are the american males in the video and the ones in the comment section"-- while failing to consider that a HUGE number of people currently living in the US are Latin American males, then there are those who are flooding the US from Latin America. Why do you suppose that is, and if they're SO macho-- how is it that masculinity in the US is in decline-- according to you?
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@Maria-oh1nq You 'Know'? Do you 'know' that there are millions of Latinos that live in the US? smh/eye roll Get a Clue
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@Maria-oh1nq So Latinos who come to the USA become less masculine is your assertion?
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@Maria-oh1nq FU racist. They're the same people who crossed the border
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@benwetzel8449 It's not for the world to adjust and accommodate the few. You think life is fair? It's for people to adapt. Cope Harder
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They're intellectually and emotionally stunted
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Gender and gender roles are different. Gender-- there are 2 Male and Female. Gender roles is another matter, however one's subjective identity doesn't change their biology. Those who you refer to as trans women are men.
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@markusbaker1161 You seem triggered.
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@markusbaker1161 Says the fool who can't figure out the difference between men and women
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@markusbaker1161 Insisting that gender is separate from sex, while simultaneously insisting that trans women are women-- you don't have to say it. It's clear
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@markusbaker1161 Nope. Gender and gender roles are what you're conflating, leading you to conclusions worthy of mockery
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@markusbaker1161 Women aren't social constructs, they're adult, human, females, so saying that trans women are women-- is wrong
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@aubreetanner9543 You're Dismissed. You've refuted nothing whatsoever. Your subjective identity, when flying in the face of reality-- doesn't obligate the world to indulge your transgender fantasies, pronouns d'jour on demand, or any such thing
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They're clueless. They're trying to rename personality traits "Gender", and they're just wrong
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Men are by FAR, more often the victims of violence, than women
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There are no non-binary nor trans people. There are people, and people are male or female... That's it. A woman isn't a social construct, a feeling or a costume and one's preferences to the contrary-- regarding their identity, doesn't affect objective reality in the slightest
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@peeteee ALL men are born male. Those women weren't
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@Tumbledweeb Because your trans activist ideological narrative is being rejected by the majority. You're the one pretending that your cosplay and LARPing is based in reality, and requires others to participate by denying objective reality
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@hikatalina Because punishing innocent children for the acts of their parents is wrong
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@cloroxistoxic2077 Sociopaths feel no shame
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@mariec7352 The 'because you said so' standard has been issued exactly ZERO credibility. You've been exposed as a troll with no integrity, who's on record as stating that you don't believe life is valuable rendering your opinion on the topic null and void
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@mariec7352 LOL, It's as if you don't realize my comments are viewable-- Proving your allegations to be baseless.
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@shaniatubana1113 Where is the virtue in advocating in favor of terminating the lives of the innocent? Answer: There is NONE
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@shaniatubana1113 "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell I'm not trying to persuade them. I'm exposing the hypocrisy of their narrative's arguments
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Gotta watch the 'We' part. They, on the other hand are indeed detached from reality
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Men cannot become women. As it turns out,there's a prerequisite to becoming a woman, and that being born female and growing into maturity. Now you know
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They are indeed, the very embodiment of appropriation
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They conflate personality traits, temperament and gender with gender roles-- as though they're synonymous, and they aren't.
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@markusbaker1161 Feel free to move along, since what I've written is apparently beyond your ability to comprehend. Your cult narrative and terminology is rejected. Gender-- there are 2, and they are fixed and permanent. No one in history has transitioned from male to female. Cope Harder
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Yes... Morons, and trolls seem to be the majority of their demographic's makeup. True gender dysphoria is very rare, and I believe the trans-activist ideology and narratives are inappropriately grouping trans people, who are for the most part, merely unapologetically embracing and indulging their perversions-- under the gender dysphoria umbrella. It's disingenuous at BEST Liberals want to give your children hormone blockers, inject them with poison, shame them for their skin color, teach them to be gay, allow them to be groomed by pedophiles and give control of them over to the state. The sad part is that I don't have to exaggerate these claims. They openly support this evil. You are watching the death spiral of the Democratic party. To the feminists who go along with their incoherent ideology-- Best of luck in your near dystopian future, where you'll then be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will say they're women too. And they don't even see it coming.
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The only standard lefts have are double-standards
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It's as if your comment is designed to prove beyond any doubt that your shoe size dwarfs your IQ. Think Deeper thoughts
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@harpoonmcfierce9697 The ones based in reality
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@harpoonmcfierce9697 the metric that there are male and female, that they're permanent states, and that it's verifiable via genetic testing long after a person's dead. How is that confusing to you? The narrative suggests that gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity are competing ideas. Both can't be true. Actually, neither are true. The gender ideology narrative is incoherent, and just wrong. It seems to conflate personality traits like masculinity, femininity, aggressiveness, passivity, agreeableness (which are not gender specific), for gender-- and it's just wrong.
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@robo1513 Yes
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@barbymadison878 Is their comment not visible to you?
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Education is the remedy for ignorance, BUT-- stoopid is FOREVER, because it is the lack of capacity for comprehension.
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@yakult9618 The morals and ethics of those who would declare the innocent to be disposable in the name of convenience, are those of narcissists and sociopaths.
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@Maksie0 It hasn't been refuted yet. You guys are repeating your nonsense all over the place, and my comments, questions and observations merely highlight the idiocy of your interactions, and your intellect-free narrative
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@sam-sj5uj Isn't the point of the video to illustrate the fact that there are only males and females and to show that segments of each have a disconnect from reality??
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@sam-sj5uj That's the sound of males and females everywhere, rejecting this incoherent,trans activist, cult ideology and terminology. You better get used to it
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The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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@chromaticsky3956 A woman isn't a feeling, costume, or a social construct. Quit conflating personality and gender, they are not synonymous. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman, and that's being born female.
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@vanilleou Respect is earned, and there's nothing respectable about people who are not what they claim to be, and furthermore, they don't get to dictate objective reality for the rest for the world. Trans-men abusing women is everyone's business. The cases are not few in number. Look it up. Woa to the feminists who embrace this ideology, as in your near dystopian future, you'll be oppressed by men-- who will claim that they're women. Wake up
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They're all on FULL Tilt
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Ya, because he's not a girl; Never has been, and never will be. The dude is a trans-activist, agent provocateur who's shoe size dwarfs his IQ-- pushing an incoherent agenda's talking points, as though it's based in reality.
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If you want to call me trans-phobic-- I really couldn't care less. There's no there-- there. You can rename men 'trans', and it changes nothing but the name. It doesn't change them or make them women, or illustrate that they're trans anything. If your subjective identity is predicated on the notion that society needs to ignore objective reality, then your identity is not valid. How does advocating in favor of men infiltrating women's private spaces, show any respect or consideration for women and their private spaces??? Why, according to you-- should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim that they're women.
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@swooningtree It may very well be, that there are none dumber, than those who buy into this incoherent ideological narrative, pushed by trans-activists. I mean, I used to work with the developmentally disabled-- and they didn't have difficulty deciphering the differences between men and women-- they way these activists and troons seem to.
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@mariec3733 No. I'm not the one advocating infanticide
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@mariec3733 Post your evidence. Your allegations are false. You have advocated in favor of terminating the life of the innocent, not me.
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@Maksie0 How come the trans community then refers to women who are trans as 'trans men'?
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@GeishaEntertainer The other side is dealing with mental illness, so expecting rational thoughts, analysis and conclusions from them in and of itself is illogical. They lack the capacity; Add to that their cognitive dissonance and it's a futile effort to expect a coherent line of thought from them
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@GeishaEntertainer There's nothing compassionate about affirming someone with a psych disorder, and attempting to normalize it-- just as it wouldn't be to the person's best interest to agree with them, if they 'believe' they can fly, while standing on a rooftop aiming to prove it. Just saying
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@GeishaEntertainer People in denial with psych disorders which manifest to a point where logic and reason are no longer an option and who's delusions manifest to the point where they're disconnected from reality all together, aren't who I expect will be able to assimilate info which highlights the depth and nature of their delusions. Their cognitive dissonance and lack of capacity to recognize objective reality vs their preferred altered reality have no resolution.
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@cosmoslady Sorry if it came across as though we weren't. I am merely adding context to support your observation.
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@markusbaker1161 It's always ridiculous to hear people who cosplay as the "opposite gender" lecture anyone on what real men and women are, as though they're some sort of authority. Totally absurd. The 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female. Take your time processing that
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@sfboom09 LOL... Not even close. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the use of cis/trans intellectually vacant and useless
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It's not incorrect. Only when speaking for yourself -- and then your choices are limited to I, Me, My-- unless you're talking about yourself in the 3rd person, which is pretty weird. You should get a refund from your English grammar teachers. You don't get to choose the one's that others use, when speaking about you to someone else. 1st person pronouns are grouped into 5 categories: Subject pronouns 1st person "I", Object pronouns 1st person "Me", possessive adjectives 1st person "My", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Mine", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Myself" 2nd person: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourself" 3rd person (Male): Subject pronouns 3rd person "He", Object pronouns 3rd person "Him", possessive adjectives 3rd person "His", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "His", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Himself" 3rd person (Female): Subject pronouns 3rd person "She", Object pronouns 3rd person "Her", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Her", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Hers", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Herself" 3rd Thing: Subject pronouns 3rd thing "It", Object pronouns 3rd thing "It", possessive adjectives 3rd thing "Its", Possessive pronouns 3rd thing "Not Used", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd thing "Itself" 1st person plural: Subject pronouns "We", Object pronouns 1st person "Us", possessive adjectives 1st person "Our", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Ours", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Ourselves" 2nd person plural: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourselves" 3rd person and (thing) plural: Subject pronouns "They", Object pronouns "Them", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Their", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Theirs", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Themselves".
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@findrochelle Why was it a matter of comfort, rather than just being factually inaccurate which was the focus and motivation?
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@Maksie0 They're men who have NO business in women's private spaces. Get over it
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What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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@Northkid1 Everyday can be halloween / cosplay
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Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Gender and Personality-- They haven't learned the difference. There's only one kind of woman, and they are all born females, so... using the cis prefix is totally redundant and unnecessary. The entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh There are males and females. That's it! Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct; She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals specifically humans. Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1. The body and brain develop & grow together -> One simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2. Hating a part of their body so much that they opt to cut it off, despite it functioning properly-- is a mental illness.
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@eternalM0TH Really? The 1 requirement for being a woman is actually being female, and trans-women aren't that. They're men, so why should they be granted access to women's private spaces?
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@eternalM0TH No, I am just providing more context to the overall topic. Restrooms are designed and implemented based on biology, hence urinals in men's restrooms-- not subjective identity
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@eternalM0TH The point is it isn't limited to bathrooms. They are encroaching on women's other private spaces such as locker rooms, sports teams, and women's prisons as well.
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@eternalM0TH The answer is, men by any other name are still men, they aren't trans anything, and they have no business encroaching on women's rites to privacy.
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not the one whinging about trans rites, becoming unhinged about use of preferred pronouns and wanting special treatment, Blossom. That's ALL YOU You're deluded
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@aaralyn6710 Grow up
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@aaralyn6710 Statistically, home schooled kids do better in every category and by every metric.
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@iamrinn1170 What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That you/they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's your/their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you/they wished they were.
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@dutchdna There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females. Seethe and cope if you must, but it changes nothing
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If trans women believe they're women-- using the prefixes is extraordinarily Odd and thoroughly redundant
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@TwoBassholesandaKaren7107 Seems to me like they need to figure out that gender is not synonymous with personality traits and temperament.
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No, they already have their own restroom. It's called the Men's room
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@0bstinacy Utopia is not for this world. Life isn't fair, and the men's restrooms also have stalls. The entire trans cult ideology is insane
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@Maksie0 You assume wrong a lot
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@StormscapeX And surgery does nothing to alleviate the reality that people will recognize those who present as something they're not, because they're observant and live in an objective reality. If your identity requires that everyone in society affirm your sense of self, contrary to objective reality, and their participation in your LARP or cosplay is required to massage your feelings, then you better develop some better coping mechanisms to deal with the fact that the world doesn't owe you anything, and the vast majority of people reject the trans-activist ideological narrative, and that isn't going to change-- So-- considering that they're more accepted now than at any other time in history, yet continue to have a self-delete rate significantly higher than the general population-- the efficacy of a surgical approach doesn't appear to be the efficacious solution which curbs that... and moving forward with the notion that if only, everyone would just play along for their sake-- then I predict you're going to be severely disappointed. The world isn't going to reorganize itself for your benefit, and to suggest it ought to-- is the height of arrogance and self-entitlement. You better learn to cope much harder
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@dylanayer8438 Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid.
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BECAUSE-- They're women
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That's why they don't group anorexia patients together. They continue to affirm the other anorexia patients to lose more weight
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@markusbaker1161 Your awareness isn't required
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No, it is grammatically correct
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@conor.3875 Just telling it like it is
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@conor.3875 Correct too.
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@Maksie0 Trans lady's 1st
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@Maksie0 Yes, you are
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@spikezcrypt The rulers of men and women, and those oppressed men and women had no say about it
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@krasmasov6852 There's no truth or virtue in you
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@krasmasov6852 I've seen no evidence of any redeeming qualities from you yet
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@aprilrae6551 Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@Polonia Opinions... Some say, some opinions are more equal than others Some say, opinions are like a-holes... Everybody has one and... I say, opinions are like orgasms... Mine is more important than yours and I really don't care if you have one or not. You have failed to refute anything at all
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@ILovePink-x1v Asking that Proves you're intellectually bankrupt and have no moral compass
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@markusbaker1161 If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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@markusbaker1161 Only as a social construct. In reality, Still males presenting as females
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, still males in reality, presenting as that which they are not.
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@markusbaker1161 Still males, presenting as that which they are not. Calling them trans doesn't alter that fact
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@markusbaker1161 No, it does not. They're still delusional men prancing around, pretending to be that which they are not-- and changing what you call them doesn't alter that-- in the least. If their identity is predicted on the notion that all of society must perceive them as they perceive themselves, contrary to objective reality-- their identity is not valid.
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@markusbaker1161 No, it's an objective fact, not an opinion that calling yourself something other than what you are doesn't make you something else, other than perhaps deceptive and / or delusional, if you believe it does-- but it doesn't change a male into a female just because they call themselves something else.
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@markusbaker1161 That's certainly not a refutation. You can believe that if you wish, but that doesn't make you correct or make me incorrect. Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is respectable. That's not an endorsement for being uncivil to someone who's mentally ill.
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Some people appreciate privacy, and aren't looking to virtue signal for attention
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LOL...A woman is not relieved of her culpability simply because you choose to ignore the fact that it's her body that she risks getting pregnant when she chooses to engage in the one and only act which risks herself getting pregnant. Again, How smart is she, if she knows that she doesn't want to risk a pregnancy, then chooses to engage in the one act that actually causes it, without taking preventative precautions? If a pregnancy should occur-- it's her fault for choosing to risk it
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@conor.3875 How many children have you raised?
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@conor.3875 Have you? There is no escaping the culpability that women have, regarding their choices to risk their body's getting pregnant, and your efforts to pretend that they have no power to avoid the avoidable is in vain.
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@conor.3875 Have you? Don't want to get burned, don't put your hand on a hot stove. Same concept applies to women regarding getting pregnant, and how to avoid it
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@conor.3875 Is that the best you can do? 🤡
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@conor.3875 Apparently, your answer is yes-- that is the best you can do. The natural consequence of having sex is pregnancy. The equation is A+B=C Again, How smart is she, if she knows that she doesn't want to risk a pregnancy, then chooses to engage in the one and only act that actually causes it, without taking preventative precautions? If a pregnancy should occur-- it's her fault for choosing to risk it. Perhaps you'll understand this in a month's time, but I'm not holding my breath
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@mariec3733 What risk are men taking regarding women getting pregnant? They aren't the one's who get pregnant
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@mariec3733 What risks do men take regarding women getting pregnant? Try to focus-- we are talking about women's unwanted pregnancies-- Not men's unwanted pregnancies.
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@mariec3733 I can't be responsible for your limited intellectual capacity or your reading comprehension deficit. Try to focus-- we've been talking about women's unwanted pregnancies, and the risks they have to contend with-- Not men's concerns re: women's unwanted pregnancies. A man's desire regarding a woman's unwanted pregnancy is totally irrelevant. He may wish she had his kid, and that doesn't create an obligation on her to facilitate his wish. The power, control, and choice to risk pregnancy is exclusively hers. There's just no getting away from that fact
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@mariec3733 I've responded to your comments. I can't be responsible if you don't understand the replies. You certainly haven't answered any of my questions, Are you gonna answer? Or just continue playing the fool and the troll?
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@mariec3733 Being that the mother is in charge of her body prior to conception (Obviously not in a rape situation), the prevention is her responsibility, if it's HER priority. There's just no getting away from that fact For women who know that they don't want kids, a man's consideration about wanting kids is totally irrelevant-- as it goes to women's choices to take appropriate precautions to avoid themselves an unwanted pregnancy. I answered all of your questions and had a question of my own seeking clarification on one of your questions, and you disappeared without answering-- as you have in every single thread.
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@Random-sk6hm That's not much of a refutation. If you intend to persuade, you'll need to do much better at refuting what I wrote.
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@Random-sk6hm You and science didn't prove that there are more than 2 sexes. This just shows us that there are genetic disorders, most of which are still associated with a defined sex and that the minority exceptions do not invalidate the rule-- it proves the rule by being the exceptions. There is no 3rd or 4th or 5th sex. It is still between male and female. A chimera isn't a new species, neither is it a new sex.
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@Menace-To-Humanity YA, "trans" IS the REAL construct.
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@amiraameera8302 Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally because of a psych disorder, attention seeking or both. That you can't wrap your head around that is a You problem. Just cope harder
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@babymoose1616 If your identity is predicated upon the notion that everyone must affirm you, by denying objective reality-- then your identity is invalid. Cope and seethe if you must
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There are people. They are male and female. There are segments of each which present with birth defects and psych disorders, neither of which invalidate the binary of all mammalian species. Developmental sex disorders are not separate sexes/genders. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspect of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) and are incorrectly attempting to use the term as a synonym for/with gender
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The island of Dr. Moreau
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@thankyouforbeingafriend9632 Yes, it is, and only a very very small minority of people aren't clear on the matter.
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@Maksie0 Gender (There are 2) and personality (There are tons)-- learn the difference.
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I'd have told him, "Dude, knock it off"
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@markusbaker1161 "would of said"? Really? No, 'would have said' or 'would've said' -- But I digress, You sure seemed to care enough to comment-- Again. :face-blue-smiling:
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@markusbaker1161 Yet, here you are-- caring enough to comment yet again and again.
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@markusbaker1161 You do. Rinse/Repeat
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 @markusbaker1161 You come across as a lonely attention seeker
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@markusbaker1161 You're an anarchist
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@mariec3733 Debates confuse you, clearly
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They started, with their preferred pronouns insistence, contrary to objective reality.
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@Maksie0 The male and female restrooms already exist. No need to bring it back. Duh
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They say gender identity and sex are separate, but haven't been able to justify encroaching on spaces designated segregated based on sex, as an entitlement. Not even close They also haven't come close yet, to being able to justify the expectation that just because they present and identify in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must treat them as though they're the opposite sex. It's absurd. Make it make sense
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Same as restrooms-- Prisons are designed around sex/biology, not subjective feelings and identities, which are contrary to objective reality.
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@JustMe-os6ts And women know that too, so-- How smart is she, if she knows that she doesn't want to risk a pregnancy, then chooses to engage in the one act that actually causes it, without taking preventative precautions? Answer: Not very If a pregnancy should occur-- it's her own fault for choosing to risk it
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@JustMe-os6ts There's no equal about it. If the father wants the child and the mother doesn't-- he has no say about it-- So, there's no equal. But for her actions, there would be no possibility of any unplanned, and unwanted pregnancy.
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@mariec3733 No doubt, for an answer to my questions to formulate. Don't forget to hold your breath
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@mariec3733 Life is worth living. Why do you disagree?
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@mariec3733 I would ask you the same thing. It would be a 1st for you
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@mariec7352 Because women are the one's who decide if they're willing to risk their body's getting pregnant or not, and men's considerations on the matter are irrelevant. No, I do think men should be responsible regarding birth control and safety from STD's, but a woman's considerations regarding her preferences regarding risking an unwanted pregnancy, don't rely on a man's opinion in any way.
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@TheLegendOfRandy It's as though you fail to realize that my comments are actually visible. You're exhibiting a major glitch in your comprehension capacity-- Again. Your failed car analogy simply doesn't withstand scrutiny. I'm saying it doesn't matter if you did or not. You wreck your own car, you have no one else to blame-- similarly, the same applies to women getting pregnant, when they facilitate their avoidable dilemmas Your capacity for misdirected, and fatally flawed analysis, leading you to intellectually bankrupt conclusions is amazing, and well documented throughout the comment section-- of you getting owned again and again, failing to justify the termination of the innocent in the womb. Like I said, I'm not under the impression that there's a place for a meeting of the minds between those who value life, and those like you who do not, and categorize it as disposable, in the name of convenience. The morals and ethics of those who would declare the innocent to be disposable in the name of convenience, are those of narcissists and sociopaths.
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No... That won't address women's sports, dressing rooms, changing rooms, showers, scholarships or prison. Got male bits, use the male restroom. Restrooms are implemented based on biology, not subjective feelings of the infinitely confused
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@markusbaker1161 Your choice to use a term describing a social construct, when discussing people which are not social constructs doesn't make sense
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@markusbaker1161 You can't prove those whom you're believing are correct? Even if it were true, gender doesn't invalidate biology-- so why then should those men being referred to as 'trans women', be granted access to women's private spaces? You have NO justifiable reason
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@markusbaker1161 Don't need to. Understanding that you all believe that sex and gender are separate-- there is no reason yet presented by either of you for why those biological men should be granted access to biological women's private spaces.
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@markusbaker1161 Watching you avoid common sense by avoiding the elephant in the room is curious to say the least. Activist much?
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@markusbaker1161 You haven't been able to make any sense over having biological men being granted access into women's private spaces, despite insisting that sex and gender are separate. Why don't you respect women's rights?
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@markusbaker1161 I couldn't find any evidence that supports the notion that men can become women or vice versa
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@markusbaker1161 So you say. No evidence to back it up seems suspicious
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@markusbaker1161 Classic avoidance on your part-- again. Our society has fallen under a strong delusion where women, REAL women have been reduced to a feeling. The trans agenda is just sickening and the fact that the West has succumbed to its delusions is just horrifying.
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@markusbaker1161 I don't read any response by either of you justifying those men who's gender you're referring to, being granted access to women's private spaces
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@markusbaker1161 No, worries... I'm correct, regardless of your inability to comprehend how and why.
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@Roxana Blacksea They're deleting and shadow banning comments in the comment section the same way.
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* His
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@ItsSchwifty Which is why their insistence on their preferred pronouns being used by others is silly. Pronouns are also reserved for speaking to another about someone else, not used when addressing an individual directly
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The longer I live on this planet, the more I understand why roosters start their day screaming
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The definition I use is: Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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@Maksie0 Cope and seethe harder. Those dudes will never be women
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I understand the narrative. I just recognize it as incoherent. They suffer high anxiety when facing having to select the appropriate restroom, while whinging about a white, male--dominated patriarchy, at the root of a gender pay gap, while insisting that gender is fluid. Ya, it's ridiculous The ridiculous notion that the world needs to accept those who can't accept themselves-- as they are, but rather must accept them as their delusional sense of self would dictate-- is ludicrous. You can chop off your dog's balls, but he's still a male dog. You can shove a chicken feather in your butt, and you're still not a chicken, no matter how much you think you identify as one-- as if you had a frame of reference in the first place-- and you do not
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@Erik-fn7kj Not much of a refutation. Shocker
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@Erik-fn7kj HA... Intersex isn't another gender. It's a birth defect. Here's the thing... You are the requiring my participation in your pronoun idiocy, and you fail to persuade, so the answer is still, No. You fail to persuade, and antagonizing and provoking those whom you wish to 'convert' over to accepting your way of thinking is not working for you. You're your own wrench in the bicycle spokes. Shocker
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They fail to make their case. Pretty simple. They need us to accept their wishes and have you noticed how snarky the trolls here are, instead of making their case-- they're just triggered, with none really engaging the tough questions and none refuting anything. They screech and censor, block and delete comments which need to be addressed to further their own narrative, and yet-- No, they just act the fool instead. It's why they fail at life
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Sad how people who insist that gender is fluid, feel the need to change their appearance to the opposite of what they are born as-- if biology didn't matter, as they insist, while simultaneously being compelled to change their appearance. It's INSANE! Aren't they already how they're supposed to be, and if gender is fluid and they believe it-- why the need to alter their appearance, since gender is fluid and biology doesn't matter? That seems Extremely Odd
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@Chris_Ivander Erik is a troll who's shoe size dwarfs their IQ
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@Erik-fn7kj Define woman. Using your logic, why then-- the need to transition, and what do they think they're transitioning into?
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@marsdavidson8307 Your approach fails to persuade. Get a clue. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual 'virtue', in any of your unhinged rants
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Broad brushstrokes not withstanding the fact that not all men and women are equal and the women who tend to choose those men you describe, and as such-- are not exactly faultless. High quality men don't go for relationships w/ low quality women
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While doing their best to be manly. The irony isn't lost
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Not trans ANYTHING... Still male after altering his appearance as he was prior
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How? Do you believe the science you're relying on is accurate, true, and correct?
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@mr.mclibtard5015 The entire ideological narrative is totally incoherent absurdities and abstract talking point totally removed from objective reality which fails to stand up to scrutiny, but they cling on like religious fanatics clinging to their cult.
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders -- who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and prior. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender.
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@Maksie0 Just observing the intellectual vacancy involved with pretending that there is another kind of woman, other than those born female.
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Should do doctors pro and con re: the efficacy and the ethics of affirmation-based treatment protocols, considering the self-delete rates and de-transitioner's regrets
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@KAnon-sl2lv Way too many conflate "Gender/Sex" (There are only 2 male/female... that's it) with "Gender roles" (Social constructs referring to the roles of males and females in society) and then with "personality traits and temperament" (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive -- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) as though they're synonymous-- and they aren't, which causes further confusion.
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@cherryx2113 Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1.) Your body and brain develop & grow together -> You simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2.) Hating a part of you body so much, that you cut it off, is a mental illness.
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*He-- That dude isn't any kind of woman. All women are born female
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@corenisveryconfused :face-green-smiling:You seem triggered. Cope Harder! I'm not bothered, I'm just observant of the objective reality that men cannot become women and that women cannot become men. Women (ALL of them) are born female, while men (ALL of them) are born male with exactly zero exceptions. That you have difficulty with reality, is a 'You' problem. That's the sound of rejection of the incoherent, trans-activist, cult ideological narratives, by the vast vast majority. Seethe if you must
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No one is saying you can't express yourself as you wish. You can identify as a Klingon if you choose-- BUT, that doesn't mean that others will perceive you as you perceive yourself. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do.
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Being "trans" IS the construct, based in fantasy
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@jazzy9983 They're not trans anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after.
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No such thing as a transgender person. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance-- as they are after
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@Maksie0 Just stop it... There's only 1 kind of woman, and she's born female. Those dudes weren't
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@Maksie0 Cope and seethe harder. Those men will never be women. The sound you hear is that of men and women everywhere rejecting your bull 💩. Don't believe me-- ask Budweiser
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If they're showing "lingering trauma, personal shame, and selfishness" from a lingering trauma-- it couldn't be that they don't want others to go through that too and have to live with the regret, lingering trauma, and personal shame that they endure-- Could it?
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@mariec7352 Hmmm.... Is that your personal feelings on the matter? Look in a mirror
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@shakararamautar3646 If leftists are so concerned about r@pe, why do they insist on releasing those convicts who've committed those crimes from prison Again and Again??
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They already have one. It's called the men's room
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Woe to the feminists who buy into his incoherent ideology, as they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men who will say they're women-- and those feminists don't even see it coming
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E X A C T L Y correct! 1 million up votes
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@ItsSchwifty Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then your identity is not valid.
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@AVIANAESMERALDASZISTENNO It's XX, XY, Birth defects, and Psych disorders... That's it I accept that there are people. They are male and female, and segments of each present w/ various physical birth defects and various psych disorders, some with both. People like Blossom aren't trans anything. There merely caricatures of that which they wish they could be, and never will-- women
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@markusbaker1161 You seem to care enough to comment-- Again, and Again, and Again I don't need to be a doctor to decipher the difference between boys and girls, or men and women. I never addressed the struggles that those who are suffering with gender dysphoria contend with; I have only ever taken issue with the concept of affirmative therapy from an ethical standpoint and with the trans-activist narratives using incorrect terminology which causes confusion and thwarts effective communication
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@AVIANAESMERALDASZISTENNO Really?? How so? Do elaborate. The whole sex is a spectrum thing is absolute nonsense
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@markusbaker1161 The agitator/stalker strikes again... Why are you presuming I'm upset? BTW, I'm not the one advocating the ideological narrative that would prefer that I use subjective preferred pronouns, BUT-- You are the advocate who's failed to make the case, and persuade me to reconsider my thoughts, which are still unrefuted.
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. That you can't wrap your head around that is a You problem It's a real psych issue, no doubt-- which has ZERO impact on biological reality
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@Maksie0 I hate to break it to you, but there's only one kind of woman, and she's born female.
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fyi-- Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue are people who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@Maksie0 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female-- so now you know better
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@isasparadise5954 That's Wrong. Dead things don't grow and develop. No one is forcing women to make the choice to engage in the one and only act which causes pregnancy, risking it in the 1st place.
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@purplepurplepurple2162 Nope-- Pure blood
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@nerd5 1. Genetics/DNA XX, XY, Birth Defect, and There are clearly males and females with several biological abnormalities, infertility, post menopausal, anomalies and surgeries-- still male or female, respectively-- and none are representative of a new sex/gender that invalidates the binary. You can neuter your male dog, make him wear makeup and a dress, and it doesn't make him a female dog. Just sayin... 2. Intersex isn't another gender in the binary. Why, because there is no newly discovered benefit or attribute elevating the human design and are often infertile, but always only represent the 2 sexes in the binary. Also, none are A-sexual w/ the ability to reproduce offspring by themselves. It's a silly argument to make. Would you argue that people born with one arm and leg invalidate the norm of people having 2 arms and 2 legs? fyi-- It does not
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@mariec3733 Are you in favor of abortion up to the moment of birth???
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@2balls4me I have several comment replies which aren't visible when logged Off, but see them when I'm logged on. Tells me I'm on target
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Apparently the stages of human development present a comprehensive and cognitive disconnect issue for you. What do you think women are pregnant with? Answer: Only a human baby-- EVER. FYI-- There is no such thing as a life free from adversity. Life is worth living
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Since we're being honest here: The imagination (which you seem to be using synonymously with 'gender') doesn't transform biology, reality, or anyone's DNA-- Even if they REALLY believe it (which would illustrate that they're delusional). You could have a surgeon transform your appearance to look like a Klingon, but that doesn't make you a Klingon-- even if you Reeaaallllly believe it-- either. If the chromosome doesn't have a Y, it isn't a guy. Intersex isn't another gender-- it's a birth defect and an anomaly. The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule-- They prove the rule, hence being the exceptions It's XX, XY, Birth Defect... That's It
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@markusbaker1161 Because they're men, telling women what it is to be women
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@markusbaker1161 Call them whatever you want-- They're men. You conflate social constructs with biology, when you say trans women are women. It's patently absurd and totally incorrect. Women aren't a social construct; trans however, IS. Those are men Your cult narrative is rejected.
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@markusbaker1161 They're still men. You have my permission to pretend otherwise, and call them whatever you want. Still men
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@fallengoat4896 You hear that? That's the trans ideology being rejected wholesale by men and women everywhere. Don't believe me? Ask Budweiser
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@conor.3875 So stay tf out of women's private spaces. Pretty simple
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@conor.3875 Relax... Don't be a drama queen
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@diavoios Then, just do you. Just don't get caught up in thinking that the world owes it to you, to participate in your LARP and cosplay by being compelled to inquire and use your preferred pronouns etc, and stay out of the girls locker room, showers, and sports teams
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@diavoios Respect is earned, and is not owed otherwise.; while Civility is another matter, which you appear to also conflate inappropriately. I have zero confusion about the fact that men cannot become women, or the fact that women cannot become men, or the fact that all women are born female, or the fact that all men are born males, or about the fact that-- that status is fixed and permanent. You appear to be inappropriately conflating gender (There are only 2-- male/female) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), as though they're synonymous, and they just aren't. Then, you seem to conflate gender, personality, temperament and gender roles (Which vary from culture to culture, country to country, and society to society-- BUT, without exception ALL refer to the roles of males/females in those cultures,countries, and societies... which ALL have long-established cultural norms, steeped in tradition).
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@markusbaker1161 The fact is that males who don't identify with their biology are still males-- and that seems to cause you confusion. Anyway... According to the psych science, what you're talking about is categorized under the umbrella of dissociative disorders
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@markusbaker1161 Your clown routine doesn't alter the fact that you've cited nothing whatsoever that invalidates anything I've written I recommend being relevant, in the future. Dissociative disorders are clearly defined as those involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self. 😏😮🧐
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@markusbaker1161 That you don't understand the relevance changes nothing. That those trans-women you're talking about are still males, regardless of the choice to call them something else changes nothing
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@markusbaker1161 Dissociative disorders are clearly defined as those involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self. The fact is, males who don't identify with their biology are still males-- and that seems to trigger you for some reason and cause you angst, and confusion. Anyway... According to the psych science, what you're talking about is categorized under the umbrella of dissociative disorders. You've not cited anything whatsoever, which has invalidated anything I've written by proving me incorrect.
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@markusbaker1161 I am qualified to read a definition, written by those qualified to craft and write it and diagnose it. That you have trouble with it is a YOU problem
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@markusbaker1161 It means, by definition that they suffer with a dissociative disorder, or they're just a weirdo in a dress w/ a quirky fashion sense
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, I actually do know. I know you have not invalidated anything I've written by citing anything which debunks my statements or understanding of the topic. I don't share your reading comprehension deficit, preventing me from reading and comprehending the definitions. Dissociative disorders are clearly defined by the "authorities", as those involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self. That you can't figure out the relevance is on you. 😏😮🧐
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@markusbaker1161 You're certainly not qualified to say, and you've presented nothing whatsoever which has proven anything I've said to be inaccurate. So, suck it up buttercup
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@markusbaker1161 You have certainly not proven me incorrect. Suck it up buttercup
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@markusbaker1161 The point is those men are not women, and people recognize that. If you don't-- fine... If you do and want to pretend you don't, that's fine too. Either way, it doesn't make them women
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@markusbaker1161 They're biological men, and their self-perceptions counter to that fact, are entirely irrelevant and change nothing.
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@markusbaker1161 No that's wrong. The prerequisite for being a woman is actually being female, and trans-women are males. trans-women are men. Your arguments are irrelevant
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@markusbaker1161 No they aren't, and you've failed to prove otherwise
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@markusbaker1161 No they are not, and your failure to cite anything which proves me incorrect means, you've got nothing but baseless claims
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@markusbaker1161 You keep saying that, but you've provided exactly zero evidence to back it up. I don't need to convince anyone of anything, least of all-- that objective reality must be suspended because of someone's delusional sense of self, contrary to objective reality, despite their elaborate efforts to present as 'other than' their biological reality. I can see with my own eyes, like everybody else.
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To the feminists who go along to get along with this trans-activist ideology... Best of luck in your near dystopian future, where you'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim they're now women too.
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@restless6024 Sounds to me like you're the following type of person who dares to call themselves a Christian: Matt 7:22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’
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@restless6024 Weak... I didn't make it up.
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@Maksie0 The obvious escapes you, and it is that they don't need to concern themselves with such things at that age. It doesn't serve their best interest to get such information. They're focusing on learning to read, write, do math, not learning to deal with the nuances of people with disorders
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@mariec3733 Not any sort of a rebuttal. You're going to have to do much better than that. There is no science anywhere proving men can become women and vice versa. As it turns out, science has established the binary dichotomy of all mammals being male and female and establishing that those are permanent and fixed status categories. Your cult ideology is rejected. Cope harder
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They are not trans anything. They're males
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Birth control is a means for preventing you from getting pregnant. It doesn't always work, and you know that-- so YOU assume the risk of getting pregnant, when you're out there creating the risk you say you're desperately trying to avoid. You just want an easy pass to be promiscuous without any consequences. Well, there's no such thing. Please NEVER procreate. Get your tubes tied, since you have such a vested interest in maintaining your pursuit of promiscuity on demand
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@fallengoat4896 It doesn't matter. If you listen really closely, you can hear the sound of women and men everywhere rejecting the incoherent trans ideology and terminology and calling it out for the bull 💩that it is. Don't believe me?? Ask Budweiser
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I get your point, but it doesn't need that delusional living meme-- to illustrate the need for more asylums. That's clear already. They're not 'Trans' ANYTHING. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after.
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@theophilus333 You've refuted nothing whatsoever. Science is merely a method of study. Gender and sex are not disconnected-- in that Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth AND the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent, and trans people aren't trans ANYTHING. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after. You and many others are conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. You appear to be conflating science w/ science-fiction.
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@WappleFan Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh
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The nuance is found with the bodily autonomy of the innocent baby in the womb
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@mollyvirgo4357 Autonomy definition, independence or freedom, as of the will or one's actions: the autonomy of the individual. A newborn baby, an infant, toddler, or someone in a coma, a minor child, an elderly adult suffering from Alzheimer's, someone with a severe developmental disability, do not possess independence or the freedom to carry out their own will, as such, lest they present a danger to themselves and/or others
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People who are confused about basic biology-- and suffer extreme anxiety when having to select the appropriate restroom, aren't those who I would suggest looking to, for intelligent analysis and coherent conclusions
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They're inappropriately attempting to rename and recategorize the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence tomboys, butch females, and effeminate males) "Gender"-- and that's incorrect. They're mad because we don't see them as they see themselves, and we aren't falling for their disguise, or their incoherent explanations of their ideology... They don't accept themselves, so go through elaborate measures to transform their appearance into something they're not, and expect to be accepted for their disguise, as opposed to being accepted for who and what they really are. That's not even as deep as a baby-spoon, and they act like it's as deep as the ocean and filled with the wisdom of the ages It's XX, XY, Birth Defect. Deal with it
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@NoBonesNoLife Big Bird and Elmo on Sesame Street told him that
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@krasmasov6852 It's not surprising that people who suffer severe anxiety when faced with having to select the appropriate restroom have a major glitch in their capacity for intelligent analysis and coherent conclusions.
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Just for clarity, I'm not a woman and I know that a woman is an adult, human, female. It's not complicated at all.
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable That's why-- Sovereign Nations have borders
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Intersex isn't another gender... It's a genetic defect/Birth Defect. Variability in personality traits and temperament are not gender exclusive hence tomboys, effeminate males, and butch females-- yet the narrative is attempting to inappropriately recategorize them, and rename them as 'Gender'. That's Wrong
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@mariec7352 You say, while posting from multiple accounts of your own.
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What's your point? Having an ectopic pregnancy removed is not an ab0rtion. An ab0rtion is the direct and intentional termination of a preborn baby. This is not the case in the removal of an embryo which has implanted outside the uterus.
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@mariec7352 It points out your glaring hypocrisy, as YOU post from multiple different accounts
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@babs_babs There is only one kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the use of cis/trans intellectually vacant and totally useless
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Quit conflating personality with gender and gender roles as though they're synonymous-- They aren't
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@CrystalKarma4 Bathrooms are implemented based on biology. Females use the female restroom and males use the males restroom. Re: non-binary: Irrelevant. Their feelings (Those claiming to be non-binary), about their s3xu@l preferences, doesn't impact their gender/sex even a little bit
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@mariec7352 In the case of women choosing to facilitate their own risk of pregnancy-- there is no one else to blame for their unwanted pregnancy-- but them. Why would they disagree with their own opinion?
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TOTAL Intellectual bankruptcy. There are males and females, and there are minority segments of each which present with birth defects and various mental illnesses/psych disorders. They aren't "trans" ANYTHING. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance and chemistry, as they are after.
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@damiandavis4831 Yes, I did. Not everyone-- apparently, has the ability to connect the dots and look at the Big Picture w/ their blinders on. I'll give it another try... There are males and females, and minority segments of each suffer w/ birth defects, mental illness and various psych disorders, as some with all of the above... Still male or female-- So, there's no need for separate restrooms for all of the above, the costs of which will be passed on to everyone. No.... Just No Male, Female, Birth Defect-- That's all there is
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@damiandavis4831 I'm not suggesting that those places which are implementing that solution shouldn't. I'm just mindful of imposing the additional costs onto those who aren't and how that will increase the costs for everyone
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@damiandavis4831 Building new asylums makes more sense to me
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That dude is ins@ne
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Their biology is still female, just now mutilated to appear like that which they are not and can never be-- Men
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I see the ideology as anti-women. Woe to the feminists who embrace this ideology, as in your near future you'll be oppressed by men who will say they're women
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@Maksie0 You sure are
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They and their have been used in common parlance since the 13th century.
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@jeh-naew6501 No, he didn't want to use the incorrect preferred pronouns, and preferred to use their name or neutral pronouns. You seem to have missed that part
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No
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You spelled brainless wrong
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Too bad nobody asked if the pro-trans agenda intended to prove that the gender pay gap is a myth, by maintaining the ideology's insistence that gender is separate from biology and fluid.
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@GeishaEntertainer The medical profession isn't interested in curing illness. They've prioritized their interested in profiting off of treating illness. What was once a perhaps noble profession has become corrupted
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@catboyash :face-blue-smiling::face-green-smiling::face-turquoise-drinking-coffee::face-turquoise-covering-eyes: That's all wrong
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@markusbaker1161 You're going to have to do better than the 'because you said so' standard. I am not the one with the dissociative disorders, who has difficulty deciphering the differences between men and women, or biology in general
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@markusbaker1161 The biological science supports me, and the Psych data covering Dissociative Disorders are established confirming of what I've been writing. You, on the other hand have provided nothing but noise. Your Islamophobia is disgusting
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@markusbaker1161 Your clown routine doesn't alter the fact that you've cited nothing whatsoever that invalidates anything I've written
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@TheLegendOfRandy You believe men are in charge of women? Interesting... How and why do you believe that? If that were the case, there are no women's rights How are men in charge of women choosing to risk pregnancy, and granting access? Why do you say men, as if they are the ones who's body's get pregnant?
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@freedommatters7677 Then, quit your sniveling.
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You have to have at least half of your brain removed for that to make any sense-- so I've heard.
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They're already debunked, but you'll never get them to admit it. They're 🐑
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@Maksie0 How is it unreasonable??
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@reneesargent6099 Don't waste your time. That fool is an activist troll
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Wait... They said gender is fluid and disconnected from biology, so how then, is there male privilege? It's incoherent
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To ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where as a feminist-- You'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are women
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@thecolorblue1635 THAT reply is when you're too lazy and incompetent to engage the substance, so you complain for the sake of complaining. Try being relevant next time
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@ItsSchwifty "Socialism has a history of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it".-- T. Sowell
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@Maksie0 If she finds it offensive, who are you to question it?
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@markusbaker1161 Cissexual was coined in the mid 1990s by a German sexologist. He used the Latin preposition cis, meaning “on this side of,” as a contrast to transsexual, trans being the Latin for “on the other side of” or “across.”
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@markusbaker1161 That's not contradicting what I posted, but thanks...
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@markusbaker1161 Your snarky comment, telling me to educate myself, was you pretending you had a clue about my education needing work. You can't even do your own research without someone spelling it out for you. Totally incompetent or just a troll playing the fool?
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. You can feel free to pretend otherwise, but it changes nothing
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@markusbaker1161 Then, it obviously was a lie, evidenced by me posting the info. Either way-- Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@markusbaker1161 If they start their own league--You should go for cheerleader tryouts.
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@markusbaker1161 Then, perhaps security for the snack cart, or you could sell rainbow flags and face paints. I'm sure someone can find a use for you if not in an official cheer leader capacity, as a support staff. Perhaps you could carry the 'balls'
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@markusbaker1161 Don't cry. Have another snack, and you'll feel all better
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@markusbaker1161 I thought for sure you'd realize I was merely mocking you. Oh well... Stay triggered then
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@markusbaker1161 Turn about is fair play, is it not? Not inferior, though consider that a sign of intelligence is the ability to assimilate new information which crushes your narrative, and course correct your thinking moving forward. You seem unable or unwilling to do so. The inability to do so-- isn't a sign of higher intelligence-- quite the opposite actually. Just sayin... But if you insist-- then, I suppose; Make of that what you will. It makes no difference to me. You're just not that important. Cope with that however you choose I know that there's definitely a spectrum for intelligence ratings and you can't fit a 3-digit IQ's worth of comprehension into a 2-digit IQ comprehension capacity. I accept that there are people who just CAN'T 'understand it'. Buh bye
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@markusbaker1161 Nah... My personal observation is that you are exercising an attention-seeking behavior, and tend to prefer to engage in anti-social interactions, and when challenged on your assertions-- rather than civil discourse and showing any intellectual integrity as a part of your equation, you play the part of the antagonist. Not unlike a child who acts out with a tantrum, when they don't get their way
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@markusbaker1161 Yet, Blossom treating the woman who stated her objection to being called cis was a non-issue for you. Hypocrisy, thy name is Markus Baker.. Beat it, hypocrite
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@markusbaker1161 Look... REAL Talk, OK??? I have NO problem realizing that there are people who have identity issues. I wish them well in their endeavors to deal with those issues; however-- recognizing that they are not that which they present themselves as, just makes me observant-- Not hateful I haven't been able to make sense of those who advocate affirmation care as a default protocol. The sad fact about the people who suffer with gender dysphoria, and those who inappropriately put themselves under the same umbrella-- who do not suffer with it, yet cosplay as though they do, have other underlying traumatic issues in play-- in addition and the su***de (both prior to and post surgery) is so much higher than the norm, and post surgery-- the numbers I've seen are astronomically high as well, showing unremarkable movement-- SO that being said, I just don't see how it's possible to see those rates and believe it's effective. Can you make it make sense? I can't
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@Maksie0 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and addresses the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Of course, you already know that since I've already informed you-- troll. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent.
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@Maksie0 It's irrelevant. If your subjective identity require that others affirm it, as though it's based in reality-- when it is not, then THAT identity is not valid.
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And what of prisons, locker rooms, dressing rooms, showers?? Bottom line bathrooms aren't designed and implemented based on feelings, rather on biology-- and in that regard, there are only males and females
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@mariec3733 Nothing... It's the 1st step in a woman avoiding the avoidable unwanted pregnancy
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@mariec3733 A woman's choice to risk their body autonomy starts with the woman's choice to risk it-- That's how
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@mariec3733 Yes they are. They know it too. The risk is the avoidable unwanted pregnancy, and all that it entails. Think deeper thoughts
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@mariec3733 ok... And? They're visible, even when logged out. Try opening your eyes?
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@sodiumso6015 What back/bad conditions? Your sense of nihilism is showing
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Where, in the USA do they?
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@sigmalpha_testostronewolf Where specifically are you referring to?
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@sigmalpha_testostronewolf I don' think it is the case that men have any say, much less an equal say about pregnant women. You do remind me that Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible nor Desirable That's why sovereign nations have borders and Immigration policies.
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 @sigmalpha_testostronewolf Life matters and is valuable. Why don't you think s?so
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@sigmalpha_testostronewolf It's called a conversation
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@sigmalpha_testostronewolf How does advocating in favor of terminating the life of the innocent in the womb, not show anything but a casual notion that life is disposable? It seems you don't have any moral ground to stand on from which to judge
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@eveliinahannele What human rights? How are women not in charge of choosing whether or not they wish to risk a pregnancy, by engaging in the one and only act which actually causes pregnancy?
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@sigmalpha_testostronewolf Why do you say that? I want them to control themselves, and prevent their unwanted pregnancies, since they have all the power to avoid the avoidable unwanted pregnancy
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@eveliinahannele LOL Ya? Where? Specifically
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@eveliinahannele Try to focus. 100% of pregnancy's-- unwanted by women, are avoidable (Obviously, I'm not addressing rapes- which only account for 1% of abortions), and the control and power to avoid the avoidable are women's to address. It is they, after all-- who get pregnant. The topic revolves around women's choices, and decisions regarding pregnancy being wanted or not. Men's desires about them are irrelevant because women have all the control regarding their choices to risk their own bodies.
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@eveliinahannele Since we're talking about a woman's preference to avoid a pregnancy, how is it that a guy is responsible for her willingness to choose to engage in the one and only act that actually causes it, by granting him access? ...............It isn't as if she doesn't know what causes pregnancy It's her risk to take, as she's the one that gets pregnant-- BUT, there are consequences and she knows it, and so is without excuse. How does advocating in favor of terminating the life of the innocent in the womb, not show anything but a casual notion that life is disposable?
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@mariec3733 Your idiocy just diminishes whatever credibility people may lend your side of the argument, as it's clear you're just trolling for sport
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@mariec3733 How much respect does a woman who can't handle her business properly, think she's entitled to?
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@sigmalpha_testostronewolf Why the aversion to women controlling themselves, and preventing their unwanted pregnancies, since they have all the power to avoid the avoidable unwanted pregnancy? Women that want to avoid an unwanted pregnancy, have the obligation to avoid it, as well as the means, and men aren't culpable if they fail. Those women failed themselves. How have they not?
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@mariec3733 hello-- It appears that you're have difficulty formulating any answers to some simple questions-- again
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@mariec3733 Post a link or cite the thread where I've said any of what you allege in quotes. 🦗🦗🦗 It just doesn't exist. I can't be responsible for your inability to comprehend what I've actually written. That's all on you
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@mariec3733 I don't care if women are sexually active or not. I'm not the one who's risking their unwanted pregnancy-- They are. I care when they want to abort their innocent offspring. Women are free to have sex. That doesn't mean they're immune from the consequences of a pregnancy occurring as a result though... They're the only ones who can get pregnant, and as a result, should operate accordingly, like there are severe consequences for their actions. If they want to avoid an unwanted pregnancy... Who's stopping them? Women know birth control methods aren't all 100% effective, but it's amazing how so many don't seem to have issues utilizing it so well, and others-- Not so much. That's not to say they should be abstinent. That concept seems to cause you great intellectual strain.
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@mariec3733 My replies, as was already established in the other thread-- are being censored. I can see them when I'm logged in, but not when logged out. No, regarding your list of questions as well. I trust everything discussed in the other thread addressed similar territory. Just a reminder, I have some questions pending waiting on your replies, in that thread
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@mariec3733 I know you don't/ Poor thing... So Sad to see /S Reading is fundamental Best of luck
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Short answer: Their psych disorders and imagination... nothing more
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To all the feminists who go along to get along w/ this incoherent ideology-- I wish you well in the near dystopian future, where you'll now be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will say they're women too.
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@mariec3733 Mental illness is everywhere. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@markusbaker1161 The truth stings-- I know. Don't get triggered. Just relax. Take deep breaths. No doubt, your cognitive dissonance is on overload
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@markusbaker1161 You think it's not true that mental illness is everywhere? That's just ignorant
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@markusbaker1161 Why do you dismiss the opposing medical experts and professional's assessment and their reasoning?
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@mariec3733 You seem to be looking to provoke and incite conflict, in search for negative attention. Sad
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@markusbaker1161 I already answered that. You said you weren't going to read the response, so quit asking. Go back and re-read if you're interested
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@markusbaker1161 Having admitted not reading my replies, you wouldn't know
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@markusbaker1161 It does illustrate that you use smear tactics with no basis in fact, proving you to have no ethics, and showing you to be of low moral character.
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@markusbaker1161 I did. You didn't want to read them. Those comments are still there. Go find them and read them
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@markusbaker1161 F-Off... Don't be lazy, and take my word for it. Do some research.
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@markusbaker1161 You have internet access. Use it for something productive, for a change. I'm not writing a scientific paper for peer review here. The stats are in, the sources are cited. Go research them yourself, then apply some comparative analysis, if you're capable. If you could prove anything I said was inaccurate, you would have-- and you have not. Incompetence on your part, or you know you're wrong and I'm correct? Do Better You're unarmed in a battle of wits
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@markusbaker1161 Sucks to be you. I verified the claim of what the stats show for myself. I recommend you do the same. You can of course, choose to remain ignorant. It makes no difference to me
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@markusbaker1161 Your incompetence is noted, and it's why you're not taken seriously. I condemn the ethics of those who promote affirmation therapy, as the results are horrendous, evidenced by the stats showing the rate of self-termination even after surgeries. If you're interested, I recommend not taking my word for it, rather go verify for yourself. buh bye
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@markusbaker1161 No need. A quick search will yield results showing the stats. It'd be really easy to prove me incorrect, if I was incorrect-- but you can't, because I'm not
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@markusbaker1161 That the analysis of the stats show the affirmation therapy approach yields horrendous results, evidenced by the rate of self deletions, de-transitioners and their regrets and horror stories, and post surgery results going wrong.
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@markusbaker1161 No need. The info is available with a quick internet search. The internet can be used for more than trolling and p0rn. Try being productive for a change, quit being lazy, and go look it up for yourself.
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@markusbaker1161 I don't have a need to prove anything to you. If you're interested, there's nothing stopping you from using your internet access to be productive and find out for yourself. I'm not willing to be more interested in curing your ignorance than you are
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It doesn't matter. If you listen really closely, you can hear the sound of women and men everywhere rejecting the incoherent trans ideology and terminology and calling it out for the bull 💩that it is. Don't believe me?? Ask Budweiser
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A tubal ligation will do
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@Maksie0 All women are born female. Now, you know
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@mariec3733 All of your nonsense, trolling and stalking just to attempt to pretend a woman doesn't have any culpability for their choices to risk pregnancy, as if they had no control to avoid an unwanted pregnancy (Obviously not talking about a rape). What's up with that?
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@Maksie0 Wow, you are so wildly confused. I, for many years used to work with the developmentally disabled, and they didn't have difficulty deciphering the difference between men and women. What's your excuse??
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@sohailahaithem2424 Yup... That's pure projection from that activist troll
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@sohailahaithem2424 They think most people don't recognize objective reality, or them-- in their cosplay/LARP-- apparently.
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They do, they just don't care
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@richardblazer8070 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. They conflate the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender, as though they're synonymous, and they're not. THEN-- they conflate gender and gender roles. THEN-- The pretend that reality isn't objective.
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@markusbaker1161 It's as if you fail to realize the other comments are actually visible. Interesting
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Making colorful, flamboyant displays to virtue signal who you are and how you feel is what the trans-activists tend to do, and apparently it makes them so strong that they are crying about others not affirming their imagination and pointing out that their delusional sense of self is not based in reality. eye roll
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It's XX, XY, Birth Defect. That's it. The delusional women pretending to be men, and getting upset at not being recognized for their preferred disguise vs who and what they actually are, is what's funny to me
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The thing drag queens, trans women and cross dressers all have in common is they're all men
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@mariec3733 You're saying drag queens are portrayed by women, or would those be drag kings or some other name that doesn't change the fact that trans women are men, portraying themselves as the opposite sex??
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@mariec3733 All that's possible is to alter their appearance. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@mariec3733 Let me know when your mental illness is under control
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Requiring everyone else in the world to validate one's subjective feelings as objective fact, by disregarding objective reality is just pitifully delusional and sad and it isn't how you treat someone with a mental illness. When "trans-women" are insisting that they ARE 'women'-- NO, they are not. They can't even define woman. They're free to identify as a deity, but that doesn't make it so... It makes them delusional, or narcissistic or BOTH
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Looks like the female panelists are doing their best at forfeiting their femininity in favor of appearing masculine
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Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh
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ZERO-- They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after. They aren't trans anything
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@highgatehandyman6479 Not a surprise that people w/ mental issues can't see reality for what it is
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The poster child for why people may say, F- Your preferred pronouns psycho
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@freedommatters7677 Not until their lease expires, when you chose to rent them a room
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@Maksie0 No, that's merely your intellectually stunted perception. Medical care, when you're pregnant-- consists of making sure the baby is receiving the appropriate attention, as well as the mother. Get Real
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@Maksie0 It's simple. Women are the ones who get pregnant. They are in charge of choosing or not to engage in the behavior which causes pregnancy. The risk is theirs to take if they choose, but the consequences come afterwards. The analogy you're clinging to, is fatally flawed. Go be responsible and try making smart choices for a change, if you have the capacity
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Men cannot become women regardless of their feelings to the contrary, and women cannot become men-- regardless of their feelings to the contrary. If your identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality and then must participate in your LARP and cosplay, then too bad, so sad-- that identity is a figment of your imagination, and is in no way valid in objective reality. Cope Harder
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@jennifersteele7036 No-- The 1 prerequisite for being a woman is actually being a female, and *he's not that. Your failure to comprehend basic logic changes nothing whatsoever
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@jennifersteele7036 Depends... They aren't all the same. Some present with more male appendages, and others with more female, neither with both being fully functional, most infertile. Either way, that is a birth defect / genetic defect-- not another gender invalidating the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species-- make of that what you will. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female. Gender is not a social construct. Gender roles are the social construct that many are confused about. Cope Harder
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It's use is thoroughly intellectually vacant, as there is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female
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@conor.3875 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Those dudes weren't, and will never be ANY kind of woman. Perspective is a wonderful thing to have, and a terrible thing to not
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@conor.3875 Gay and lesbians have no difficulty deciphering the differences between males and females, and Bi people understand that there are 2 choices in the binary. What's your excuse??
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@conor.3875 confusing men as women
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@conor.3875 You were saying trans women are women and that's wrong-- So... Glad you figured it out
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@conor.3875 No... A woman is an adult, female, human, and those men are not. As it turns out-- the prerequisite to being a woman is being born a female. There isn't any science anywhere which proves a male can become a female-- so your narrative is pure nonsense. You are conflating personality traits and temperament (neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are Not.
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@conor.3875 And that's why using the word woman to describe them is absurd nonsense. They're not women of any kind. They're men playing dress up
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@conor.3875 Because they're males who merely altered their appearance. Still males
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@markusbaker1161 You seem to have a vested interest in suggesting that men, when presenting as women-- should be granted access to women's spaces and that women should be okay with that.
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@markusbaker1161 :face-green-smiling::face-blue-smiling:
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@markusbaker1161 I think when you're having a meltdown on a viral video toward a poor store clerk screaming, "It's MA'AM" -- says everything that needs to be said
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@markusbaker1161 Silly, of course you don't. I understand. Cognitive Dissonance is Real
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@markusbaker1161 The fact that calling something by another name doesn't make it something else.
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@markusbaker1161 No. It's based on the capacity for observing and discerning reality from fantasy
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@markusbaker1161 It is what it is
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@markusbaker1161 Objective reality vs subjective identity. Dissociative disorders are mental health conditions that involve feelings of being detached from reality.
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@markusbaker1161 You're not persuasive at all, and you appear to be under the impression that your opinion is of some value. It isn't
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@markusbaker1161 :face-blue-smiling::face-green-smiling::face-turquoise-covering-eyes::text-green-game-over:
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, the hilariously asinine tripe that you believe to be true is why you fail at life
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@markusbaker1161 If they've already won, I look forward to the absence of their continual whining
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@markusbaker1161 You said they'd already won years ago. They shouldn't be whining or having to fight at all, if you were correct. Ooops
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If one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must deny objective reality, then that identity is invalid
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@mariec3733 Those intent on being victims will always find a way to facilitate their own self-fulfilling prophesy. No one is forcing women to risk the avoidable. The lack of personal accountability is astounding
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@glassesyouneed6876 What are you talking about? Of course, they're asking for not only acceptance, but participation with their LARP and cosplay by demanding to control the speech of others to use their preferred pronouns or in some countries face h8 speech crime prosecution. Get Real
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My issue is discerning reality vs their subjective, delusional self-identity which mocks it-- by suggesting we need to affirm their self-perceived identities. The answer is No... Just No They aren't 'trans' anything whatsoever. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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I look at it like inviting a guest into your home and then choosing to terminate them, prior to the end of their visit
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Not if they self-delete 1st, and the rate of self deletes are WAY higher than the general population--
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Leftists: Anything I don't like must be banned, and everything I do like must be paid for and provided by others. 🖕
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@SlipperyTeeth The trans activist arguments will either stand up to scrutiny or they won't-- and they do not.
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@SlipperyTeeth Opinions... Some say, opinions are like A-h0les... Everybody has one. Others say, some opinions are more equal than others. I say, opinions are like 0rg@sms... Mine is more important than theirs, and I don't care if they have one or not. You can either make your case using logic and reason or you can't, regardless of your background-- and you/they haven't. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female making the use of cis totally irrelevant and useless. A woman isn't a feeling, a s3xu@l preference or a costume. Now, you know better
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@Maksie0 Bot
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@Erik-fn7kj Yes you can look them up, not only that-- there are horrifying stories about those who are de-transitioning who talk about their experiences. I originally put some direct links for you-- but it looks like it's being shadow banned, for exposing the truth, so if you're actually interested-- you can go look them up for yourself. I know... You're not interested in truth, only in trolling and your activist agenda .
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@nathanmccoy9188 No... Just, No
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@krasmasov6852 Doubtful
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Life is worth living. Why do you disagree?
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@mariec3733 That's wrong. Lots of people have been making the argument that it's better to be aborted than to have a difficult life-- yet, here they are making comments. What risks do men take regarding women getting pregnant? Men aren't the one's who risk their body's getting pregnant, and we are talking about women's unwanted pregnancies-- Not men's unwanted pregnancies. When a woman gets pregnant 'unwantedly', with the ONLY exception being rape (1% of abortion cases)-- obviously; how is it not her own damned fault? She knew she was risking it
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@mariec3733 Did you seek quotes around my comment? There is a reason for that. I wasn't quoting anyone. Women that want to avoid an unwanted pregnancy, have the obligation to avoid it, as well as the means, and men aren't culpable if they fail. Those women failed themselves. How have they not?
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@mariec3733 What standard of measurement do you propose is used when attempting to answer that sort of formulated question-- "help, improve and save lives to make them worth living" ?? Worth living? According to who?
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@mariec3733 Being that the mother is in charge of her body prior to conception (Obviously not in a rape situation), the prevention is her responsibility, if it's HER priority. There's just no getting away from that fact
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@mariec3733 I don't oppose abortion when the mother's life is in imminent peril, because if the mother perishes by default, so does the infant-- speaking generally
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@mariec3733 No, obviously I'm not suggesting rape victims have a means to avoid their pregnancy barring the morning after pill administered immediately to prevent the pregnancy.
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@mariec3733 I don't hate sexually active women. I've NEVER said that they have an obligation to avoid having sex. Believe it or not, there are a lot of pro-life women who are sexually active. They, apparently understand something about what it means to proactively avoid unwanted pregnancy successfully, that eludes others. 🤔
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@mariec3733 For women who know that they don't want kids, a man's consideration about wanting kids is totally irrelevant-- as it goes to women's choices to take appropriate precautions to avoid themselves an unwanted pregnancy
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@mariec3733 You keep sniveling about me not answering your questions-- yet, here are your answers.
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@mariec7352 That you're posing, as if to be unaware of the fact that millions of women don't have problems with their family planning results going exactly according to plan, comes across as disingenuous and ignorant at best.
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@dannyyspencerr You think a social construct alters your biology? It does not. That dude is a he
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@royalbitches6330 No... As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman and that's being born female. Those are men
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@DoReMeaCulpa Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@marcusweaver6766 The relevant point is that men cannot become women
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Still male or female, respectively. Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior traits
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Yes, those are all the types of things charity's provide help with. What's your point?
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Merry Xmas, and Remember-- just because you put on a Santa costume, it doesn't really make you Santa
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@markusbaker1161 Only in the land of make believe
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@markusbaker1161 Reality says you're delusional because in reality trans women are men
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@markusbaker1161 Faulty logic is your dilemma
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@markusbaker1161 Proving my point that faulty logic, is your dilemma
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@markusbaker1161 It's unadulterated misogyny. Those are men, they will always be men. Their imaginations and subjective personality traits and temperament don't change the fact that those trans women aren't trans anything-- They're men
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@markusbaker1161 Your prop@g@nda is rejected
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@markusbaker1161 What you think doesn't persuade.
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@markusbaker1161 You're projecting
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@markusbaker1161 No, none whatsoever. Here's a fact: men can't become women
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@markusbaker1161 Make up your mind. You said sex and gender were separate. Now, you're mixing them together as if they aren't.
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The way I see it is, Trans women are still men. You're not trans anything. You're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as you are after transition. It seems all you've done is drastically alter your appearance, and natural body chemistry. Still male How is that not accurate?
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@elly907 Because there's only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female, S0-- calling a female 'him' would be grammatically incorrect and intellectually vacant
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The problem with the trans activist ideological narratives is that life is based in objective reality, and the vast majority of people don't have difficulty deciphering the differences between reality and the trans imagination. Gender (There are only 2 male/female). Too many conflate gender with personality (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tom boys), and with gender roles (Which vary from culture to culture, country to country, and society to society and without exception they ALL relate to the roles of males and females in those cultures, societies, and countries which all have long-established cultural norms, as though they're all synonymous-- and they are not. What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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Women are Women, and Men are Men-- regardless of how they self-identify, or if they present in such a way that is contrary to their biological reality.
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@markusbaker1161 Those who insist on exercising controlling over other people's language, by insisting on preferred pronoun usage, contrary to objective reality
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You say, while failing to recognize that America abolished slavery. It's like you're trying to prove that your shoe size dwarfs your IQ, with that feeble analogy
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@No-pi1ms That's a birth defect, not another gender
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@bareq99 Quit conflating personality with gender. They're not synonymous
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@markusbaker1161 :face-blue-smiling::face-green-smiling:
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@markusbaker1161 The irony of your incorrect use of the word 'you're', while you're pointing out Your ignorance, isn't lost on me. :face-blue-smiling::face-green-smiling::face-turquoise-covering-eyes::text-green-game-over: Those men are just not that which they present themselves as, but If you're fooled or just want to pretend they are, nothing is stopping you
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@markusbaker1161 Ignoring the pertinent information again, it seems. Those men are just not that which they present themselves as, but If you're fooled into believing that they are, or if you just want to pretend they are-- nothing is stopping you from doing so. Not all of us have eye sight issues or cognitive issues, and most of us aren't interested in playing pretend, or being willfully ignorant-- along with you
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@markusbaker1161 Blah, blah, blah... You just can't get enough of my attention. It's cringe
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@markusbaker1161 Meh... 😴
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@markusbaker1161 You do not honor the desires of women or recognize their privacy rights.
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@markusbaker1161 You already did
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not going to ignore what I can observe with my own eyes, and promote make believe, or cater to feelings by pretending that the identity of people who identify as something they're not in reality, is valid. They're still men, not women and they have no business in women's private spaces Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody mocking female behavior and personality traits.
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, confused people exist. Respect is a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements and it's earned and reserved for that which is actually respectable.
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@markusbaker1161 I couldn't possibly care less about your feelings. You've proven yourself to be absent of any integrity or substance. You've failed to prove that those people you're referring to as trans women-- are anything other than men
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@markusbaker1161 You're about as close to irrelevant as it gets, so Your acceptance isn't required, and your agenda is rejected. Your stamp of approval isn't valued or needed. You've already lost the logic argument, and again by conflating science with science-fiction. Those men will always be men, regardless of your insistence to the contrary, and you've failed to make a case proving me incorrect
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@markusbaker1161 Are You? The burden of proof is on you and those who promote the trans-ideological narrative that your claims are true and correct
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@markusbaker1161 The evidence is the video and it's comment section you're making a fool of yourself in, genius
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@markusbaker1161 No... You
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@markusbaker1161 Your absence of integrity, evading answering questions, and no evidence whatsoever of a coherent argument anywhere to be found-- is uncanny. If you're suggesting it exists-- provide evidence of it existing,because it's nowhere to be seen Your agenda is twisted
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@markusbaker1161 My comments stand as they are still not yet refuted by you or anyone else; meaning-- I don't require a defense for facts and truth.
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@firetube8288 Nonsense! 90% desist and end up choosing a gay lifestyle.
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@firetube8288 No, my numbers are verifiable by a peer reviewed medical study. This is directly from the writer and tenured member at WPATH, Ken Zucker: Not to mention the leaked wpath files showing doctors themselves do not think these kids are mentally mature enough to consent to the surgeries. ** Kenneth Zucker et Al 2021: "88 percent of trans women desisted after 20 years. 93% resorted to homosexuality"
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@Maksie0 Your narratives are the ones which are nothing more than incoherent madness. Your opinion is rejected for being less than useless whinging, and your screeching nonsense only highlights your disconnect from reality.
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@Maksie0 I get it. You're mad because I see through the nonsense that you push for what it is-- total absurd nonsense.
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@KitchenWitchery The fact is you can have a surgeon alter your appearance and that doesn't change whether or not you're male or female-- since that is a permanent state, even if you, in your delusional alternate fantasy, REALLY believe it.
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not the one obsessed with putting on women's clothes and pretending it makes me something I'm not, as though womanhood were a costume that can be put on or taken off with magical transformative properties.
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@markusbaker1161 So? You don't appear to know that men cannot become women either, or that calling men 'trans women', doesn't change them from being men into something else.
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@markusbaker1161 No doubt that people cosplaying as the opposite gender and referring to themselves as transgender exist and calling men 'trans women', doesn't change them from being men into something else
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@markusbaker1161 Cry a river about the facts that men cannot become women if you must-- it changes nothing
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@markusbaker1161 No, you are. You think men should be granted access to women's spaces because they rename themselves transgender... It's absurd
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@markusbaker1161 "Trans"gender is the REAL social construct
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@markusbaker1161 Then, have them use your front lawn. What you're referring to as "transgender women", are men--by any other name, still men. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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Well, the innocent resulting child's life isn't less valuable just because one of their parents was bad, so how is it justified even in that case?
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@mariec3733 The point is, it doesn't justify terminating the life of the innocent. Calm down Karen
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No, indecent exposure in public is a crime
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@tarajoyce3598 That's why those men have no business in the women's room
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@tarajoyce3598 Well, isn't that special... I don't know if you're aware, but those men have access to those amenities in the men's room too. I hate to break it to you, but regarding gender-- There are 2, male and female, and one's personality and quirky fashion sense doesn't alter that permanent state. If your subjective identity is in conflict with objective reality, then that identity isn't valid. People aren't obligated to indulge their LARPing or cosplay. I reject the entire incoherent ideological narrative
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@tarajoyce3598 Also, I don't know if you're aware, BUT-- Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct. She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals specifically humans. The definition of a woman is an adult, human, female, and the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female-- and those men weren't. Now you know
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@tarajoyce3598 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. As it turns out the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those dudes presenting as 'other than' men, aren't. Still men IF as you stated gender and sex are disconnected (they're not), then justify those men being granted access into women's private spaces. You can't, because they aren't If your subjective identity is in conflict with objective reality, then your identity is invalid. Too many are inappropriately and incorrectly conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive--hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not. Then they inappropriately conflate the difference between gender and gender roles. No, I reject the entire incoherent ideological narrative. Personality and gender-- learn the differences
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@tarajoyce3598 Well, woe to the feminists like you who buy into this incoherent ideological narrative, as in your near dystopian future-- you'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim they're women-- and you don't even see it coming. smh
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@tarajoyce3598 BTW-- Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable... That's why sovereign nations have borders. Think Deeper thoughts
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@tarajoyce3598 The devil is in the details. An equal society in terms of opportunity vs outcomes is an important distinction, because when free to choose-- men and women choose differently, which leads to different outcomes. Equal outcomes isn't possible in a free society for that reason
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@tarajoyce3598 What legal inequality are you referring to? They have the same access and equal opportunities as any other male or female, do they not???
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@tarajoyce3598 Who told you that? and... Why did you believe them? You already can't discriminate based on s3x, rayse, s3xual orientation, r3ligion. Parents who engage in affirming their children's delusions and norm@lizing them, imo-- are engaging in abuse
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@markusbaker1161 You have yet to learn to decipher the truth from the supposed facts you're referring to, and it appears you haven't figured out that correlation doesn't equal causation either. You have yet to prove your claims that trans women are women who are trans or that men can become women. You say, Trans women are women who are trans... And women who are trans, are also trans men... And Trans men are men who are trans... And men who are trans, are also trans women? So, trans women are also trans men? You're appear extremely confused about life and your absence of logic, reason, and critical thinking is evident in your comments
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@markusbaker1161 I don't have to do anything. You hear that sound??? Listen closely.... It's the sound of women and men rejecting your ideology, and terminology for the nonsense that it is. You better get used to it.
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@markusbaker1161 I don't care about that empty-headed, impotent label, transphobia. There's no fear here. I couldn't possibly care any less about your approval or acceptance. That the trans side of the isle's complaint, looking to be accepted by the world, as though they are actually women or men-- They aren't. The sound of women and men rejecting your ideology, and terminology for the nonsense that it is something You better get used to. :text-green-game-over:
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Honest question... How is it possible that you weren't sure?
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I would bet that isn't the cause of your condition. If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? crickets...
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@Maksie0 Cope harder! LOL Your narratives are baseless, incoherent nonsense.
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@Maksie0 You lost-- Move on
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Because men have a less agreeable temperament than women do, on average
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He's still a male even if he continues using that prefix. That fact isn't going to change
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There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born females. Now you know
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Both are people presenting as something they're not
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@garrettr3644 It's the only fundamental truth that matters. Why someone is portraying themself as something they're not, isn't all that relevant, in reality
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@garrettr3644 There's no such thing as trans. There are males and females... That's it. A woman isn't a costume that men can simply put on. Women aren't a social construct. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those men weren't. Now you know
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Yes, those doing drag know they're not that sex which they portray. The difference w/ trans women is, theirs is a delusion and isn't based in reality, making it a lie. They're imposters
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@conor.3875 False ID's aren't valid anywhere. If your identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality and participate in your cosplay and LARPing-- that identity is not valid at all
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No, there are both physical and temperamental differences between males and females. They're not interchangeable widgets. Why do you believe that? It's demonstrably false. Both terms sex and gender originate from the Latin words Genus (meaning "Begin", "Birth", "Kind", "Race", "Gender") and sexus (meaning "sex", "Division", "Gender") The only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex (There are only 2 male/female) with 'Gender Roles' (Social construct which refers to the roles of males and females in society) and again with Personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys)-- as though they're synonymous, and they are Not. All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, persona or a costume
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Cubic Zirconia look like the real thing, BUT, when you know what you're looking at, you know-- They are Not. The same correlation applies to the trans ideology.
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Because they recognize that the variability in personality traits and temperament aren't gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys-- and that the trans-activists are inappropriately conflating that with gender. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male and female-- respectively.
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@samsonsulk Just adding some content and perspective
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@Maksie0 Yet, here you are arguing. Not too bright on your part. shocker
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@mariec3733 No, you're conflating personality with gender.
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@Maksie0 Fool
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@Maksie0 Cope Harder! If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is just not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@GrahamChapman YOU certainly haven't made a case, or refuted anyone. Only 2 genders-- Male and Female. Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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The rate of self deletion, even after surgery-- suggests otherwise
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The teaching of 'basic' sex ed biology at an appropriate age, isn't what people are protesting.
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@sahilch7348 No... The guy may not care one way or the other if the woman gets pregnant. She, on the other hand doesn't need his input at all, to determine if she wants to avoid an unwanted pregnancy. The power to choose to risk it (or not) is all hers, as it's her body that gets pregnant.
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@mariec3733 No, I'm saying exactly what I wrote. Unlike my example above, I actually raised my son as a single parent. How many children have you raised?
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@mariec3733 What? You don't know how many children you've raised? That seems odd There is no escaping the culpability that women have, regarding their choices to risk their body's getting pregnant, and your efforts to pretend that they have no power to avoid the avoidable is in vain.
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@ABc-zb8yu The innocent child growing in their womb because of what they chose to do with their body, created another body that isn't theirs to do with as they please
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@ABc-zb8yu She facilitated the baby 'moving in' What are you rambling about? She's accountable and 100% responsible for engaging in and facilitating the one and only scenario in which a pregnancy can occur. Get Real
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@ABc-zb8yu Obviously, I wasn't addressing a rape; however, that's only 1% of abortion cases. The power, control, and choice to risk pregnancy (Obviously not talking about a rape) are exclusively hers. There's just no getting away from that fact
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@ABc-zb8yu As you pointed out-- She's responsible for creating it. She should've and could've avoided it, because it isn't as if she didn't know it was a risk
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@baristaz8834 I don't support going out of your way to be uncivilized and rude, but they are in fact, not what they're saying they are. They are not men. They are women, who mutilated their bodies and altered their hormones unnaturally to appear like men, but they are in fact still women
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@baristaz8834 1. The short answer is: reality, and the ability to discern fact from fiction. In a car wreck, the EMT's know it's a male or a female On the coroner's slab, they know it's a male or a female Archaeologists can identify them as a male or a female Because... That's all there is. Male or Female, and that condition is permanent, regardless of delusions to the contrary 2. How is that relevant; I never made any comments about feelings? 3. Mutilation: Mutilation or maiming is cutting off or causing injury to a body part of a person, so that the part of the body is permanently damaged, detached or disfigured. How is that confusing to you?? 4. Men who have vasectomies are not now women, and they're under no delusion about that-- being the point your suggestion fails to take into account. In addition, they're reversible ie. Not permanent, they also don't detach or disfigure anything. Bad Comparison example. It shows that you don't understand the meaning of the words you're using, as evidenced by the definition of mutilation. Hope that clarifies things for you
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@1ily777 They're still human. They're just not the sex which they've altered themselves to appear like. They're still women. Men pretending to be women and infiltrating women's sports, locker rooms, restrooms, dressing rooms, the work place and in prisons is a problem for a LOT of women.
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Yes... It's pseudo-science and science-fiction
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@sylviaiwnbaw Because, according to your assessment-- lesbians are predators?? Make it make sense
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Cope Harder. Just remember, when you think things are against you-- it's probably You, and the world doesn't owe you acceptance. If You want to integrate into society-- then remember that it's YOU, who needs to adapt. To insist that society must play along with your counter-culture position-- makes you seem arrogant, narcissistic, self-entitled and ridiculous. You're not the center of the universe and the world isn't going to reorganize itself to accommodate your subjective feelings, contrary to objective reality. You need to develop better coping mechanisms to deal with adversity, because not everyone is going to like you, or be accommodating.
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The women aren't happy, clearly-- as they're the one's who were so unhappy, they altered their appearance to be like men. Craziness
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@YTuser854 Why not apply the same logic to those who actually risk their bodies getting pregnant? Tubal ligation??
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@Maksie0 Do you believe a baby has value?
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@YTuser854 How are the women, who-- when choosing to indulge themselves in the act which naturally causes pregnancy-- not the root of their own dilemma??
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@YTuser854 ?? I asked a question. I didn't make a statement. Since you didn't answer, I'll answer for you: Women who choose to risk getting themselves pregnant-- are the root cause and catalyst of their own dilemma
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@selmaelisesortland If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? In other words: If a girl, trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (supposedly the reason for transitioning), How can gender be fluid and separate from biology? Answer: It can't
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The reason she got pregnant wasn't because he didn't do something. It's because SHE DID, when she facilitated her own dilemma. SHE didn't effectively prevent herself from becoming pregnant.
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Quit conflating personality traits and temperament with gender and gender roles as though they're synonymous... They Aren't There's only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female. A male wishing he was a female, doesn't become female-- regardless of the extent to which he attempts to alter his appearance and convince others that he's female. A dude in a dress is still a dude, even if he believes that he's not. Now you know better
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@TheWholeEntireCake Cope Harder. The world doesn't like you, and your attitude doesn't inspire them to either. You're dismissed
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@chernobylkid3273 If/when I don't, my comments get deleted
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Men are typically not as emotionally reactive as women, and so aren't triggered to the depth of emotional angst about the same sorts of things overall. So many people mistake self-control, and choosing not to wear one's emotions on their sleeves for all to see at all times as a weakness they paint as suffering in silence. Amazing
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@conor.3875 Well, you're still here-- so apparently think yours is worth living and contributing here is evidence
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@mariec3733 Living
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@mariec3733 Life is worth living. Why do you disagree?
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@mariec3733 How in your mind, does advocating in favor of abortion demonstrate valuing innocent life?
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@mariec3733 Ending abortion would save nearly a million lives a year, just in the USA. Again... Personal Responsibility for avoiding the unwanted pregnancy would address and solve the unwanted pregnancy issues that women face. It's really not complicated.
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@conor.3875 Duh... What's your point? That your life is special, but other's lives are less important, so are therefore disposable?
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@conor.3875 Your arrogance is astounding
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@conor.3875 No, it's observant. You're not the center of the universe and you certainly aren't floating majestically above the rest as some sort of paragon of virtue
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@conor.3875 You asked, "Is it worth it?" and I responded, "Well, you're still here-- so apparently think yours is worth living and contributing here is evidence." And you responded with what appears to be directed at the comments I quoted-- because your response just doesn't make sense, otherwise. You responded with, "Not all life is my life", as if to make a point. What was the point you were trying to make? The record of what is written is clear. What are you making a spectacle of yourself about? What you wrote is there for all to see, and it was ridiculously arrogant, and narcissistic
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@conor.3875 What you wrote is clear. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total lack of any actual virtue in the comments you made
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@conor.3875 Ya? Well it's clear that when I asked what was the point you're trying to make, you never answered. What's up with that?
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@conor.3875 Can you give some examples? and elaborate on how and why, then address how they are equivalent to innocent babies in the womb
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@conor.3875 I don't agree that innocent lives are more or less equal than one another and/or more or less worthy of living. Why do you? and in what context... Is there a reason you can't respond to my request for examples clarifying what you mean, with examples clarifying what you mean?
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@conor.3875 What leads you to believe we were discussing anything other than human babies, in the context of this pro-life conversation? It's as if you're aiming for the most obscure argument possible. Why waste your time acting the part of a fool?
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@conor.3875 I limited my comments to that which is relevant to the topic.
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@conor.3875 Well, the life of mushrooms certainly has nothing to do with the topic. Your choice to focus on the obscure doesn't invalidate the relevant bits that've been being discussed. Your choice to ignore the obvious is deliberately obtuse and isn't conducive to communicating effectively. It comes across as quite disingenuous. You've failed to establish or refute anything relevant. Look, women that want to avoid an unwanted pregnancy, have the obligation to avoid it. Those women also have the means to do so, and appear to be without excuse. Men aren't to blame if women fail to avoid the avoidable. Those women failed themselves. How have they not?
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@conor.3875 Well, it didn't then. Your interest in this ludicrous attempt to move the goal post and pretend it wasn't obvious that it was human life which was the focus-- is boring. If you want to operate from the perspective that your life isn't more valuable than a mushroom-- ok with me. It makes it clear where to rank the amount of credibility your opinion and the value therein brings. You're Dismissed Junior
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@conor.3875 He says, while failing to address the relevant questions and issues of the topic. THAT'S Weak
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There are males and females. That's it... Now you know. A woman isn't a costume that men can put on, and she isn't a social construct. Update your understanding to comprehend the fact that personality and gender aren't synonymous
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They conflate gender with personality, and gender roles
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Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@markusbaker1161 Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. If men aren't suffering from gender dysphoria and they dress like, and present as women, they're just engaging in cosplay. Coincidentally, if they do suffer w/ gender dysphoria, their dissociative delusions don't transform them into women, either Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 transgender and the word "women" are not synonymous
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@markusbaker1161 I didn't say they were, either
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@markusbaker1161 ✌
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If we truly value human life then we would never justify abortion in circumstances where the mother's life isn't at risk. Period. Its not a debate
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Yes-- men with issues, pretending to be women without issues-- telling women about being women. That anyone would ever give this incoherent, cult-ideology any credibility, is amazing
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Who'd have guessed. LOL
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It's simpler than all that. If you don't want kids, wish to avoid kids ending up in the foster care system, etc... avoid pregnancy. That's pretty simple. Millions of women successfully utilize preventative birth control-- daily, in the name of family planning and body autonomy. What do you figure they know that eludes those who don't?
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@mariec7352 How come you fail to recognize the autonomy of the child's body-- that the mother created with her choice to engage in the one and only act which causes the unwanted pregnancy?
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@mariec7352 I believe that human life is precious and inherently valuable. Why don't you, evidenced by your desire to terminate the lives of the most innocent and vulnerable, as a matter of convenience? I just don't see anything righteous or virtuous in any of your comments.
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@mariec7352 That's False. If we truly value human life, we would never justify abortion in circumstances where the mother's life isn't at risk. Period. Its not a debate
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@mariec7352 No it doesn't. They're not forced into pregnancy with their autonomous body's, but they're obligated to avoid them, if a pregnancy is unwanted. You fail to recognize the body autonomy of the babies they created. Why is that? I believe in bodily autonomy for all humans, why don't you?
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@mariec7352 Ignoring the pertinent focus, as usual-- and in an assault, the criminal took the female's autonomy, and the innocent resulting child's autonomy (that now exists) is being ignored by you. How convenient. You come across like you work for jubilee, as an hypocrite activist.
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@mariec7352 You said, not all lives are valuable since they're not making life "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of". Therefore, not all women's lives are valuable, not all women would or should then deserve bodily autonomy, since they're not making the baby's life (You know-- the one they facilitated when they chose to risk pregnancy) "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of"??? You appear to have an incoherent philosophy
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@aaralyn6710 Yes, you can. Quit conflating personality with gender and gender roles. They are not synonymous Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and relates to the social aspects of being male or female, respectively.
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He's trying to make stoopid the new smart
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There is only 1 kind of woman, and you're ALL born female-- making the intentional use of 'cis' nonsensical, and a slur
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@aaralyn6710 Intersex is a genetic physical disorder. Gender dysphoria is a psych issue. Cis is a term used in chemistry, to reference the placement of molecules in reference to one another and has nothing to do with gender.
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Correct. It doesn't make you male either. They're inappropriately attempting to rename and recategorize the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence tomboys, effeminate males, or butch females), "Gender"-- and that's just incorrect
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@krasmasov6852 It means that the wide variability in temperament and personality traits of humans aren't gender exclusive. It means the attempt to indicate otherwise, is an error. They can identify as 15' tall too, but that isn't manifested into reality just because they have an active imagination either. The fact that the world doesn't view them as they view themselves, or how they would prefer that it views them-- isn't a problem the world needs to rectify 'For' them. Dressing up for a Comic-Con Convention doesn't actually transform human males or females into Wookies, or Klingons; Same for Drag Queens or 'Trans'-people either. Still XX, or XY
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@Maksie0 There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the use of cis entirely irrelevant and useless
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No trans either. They're the same gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after-- while enjoying their LARPing. Intersex isn't another gender in the binary. It's a birth defect which presents with development of organs ONLY from within the binary, only-- not so much functional.
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Racist
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@markusbaker1161 Not much of a refutation. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally because of a psych disorder or for attention, or Both. That you can't wrap your head around that is a YOU problem. Just Cope Harder
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@Maksie0 That's the sound of women rejecting your ins@nity. You better get used to it
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@ElanaVital83 *He
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@ElanaVital83 Using 'she' when referring to a male is grammatically incorrect and is intentionally misgendering him
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My question to you is, how many have the pro-abortion people adopted? You don't want to risk pregnancy-- Don't. No one is forcing anyone to indulge in promiscuity and facilitate the risk
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You're not
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@Erik-fn7kj The thing is, your opinion couldn't be any more irrelevant. I mean, if figuring out which restroom is the appropriate selection presents you anxiety and problems-- Your opinion couldn't be more useless
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Gender and Personality... Learn to articulate the differences
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@markusbaker1161 No, you're obsessed with how others perceive men in drag
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@markusbaker1161 You already know how I perceive men in drag... As men. What's your excuse for the confusion?
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@markusbaker1161 Well, that's weak, BUT-- You're aware of what I've written and you've still not proven anything I've written is incorrect, and you haven't proven that men can become women or vice versa. Your narrative's claims are bogus
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@markusbaker1161 Science has already proven that the binary dichotomy of all mammals is male and female, and that status is fixed and permanent.
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@markusbaker1161 Nonsense. Genentic anomalies are the exceptions which prove the rule
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@markusbaker1161 Your approval isn't required and your understanding is questionable at best. I recognize the difference between males and females, and reject your cult narrative and terminology. You care what I think. That's why you're continually commenting to me
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@markusbaker1161 Your is the fringe narrative. Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct. She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals specifically humans. Now you know
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@mr.mclibtard5015 That fool is another trans-activist troll, here in the comments. You'll see. They act like they're as deep as the ocean, but they're not even as deep as a baby spoon
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@markusbaker1161 It was for decades, until about 5 seconds ago-- when activist hacks re-categorized gender dysphoria-- and it clearly is a psych issue, not a physical one
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@markusbaker1161 It's a psych disorder, not a physical one. You fail to persuade otherwise. You aren't able to prove that men can become women. That renders your entire pov and narratives bogus. Your acceptance and approval isn't required. Mine is. You want and need preferred pronouns to be used-- Then YOU need to make a better more persuasive case or the answer is, NO. It's really as simple as that
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@markusbaker1161 How do you feel like another gender, when you've never been that gender. Make it make sense
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@markusbaker1161 It's incoherent nonsense that doesn't make sense. It's foolishness that you adhere to. Because you can't make sense of it, you're proving my point that it's nonsensical idi0cy
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@markusbaker1161 I'm just not deceived as you are, into believing they're something other than confused men presenting as women.
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Men pretending to be women, vs women as opposed to the women pretending to be men vs men in this video?
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Restrooms are based on genitalia, not subjective feelings
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@Rubed0_o There's a prerequisite to being a woman, and that is being born female-- making the 'Cis' distinction irrelevant and less than useless.
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@babs_babs The incoherent madness of his ideological narrative
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@Maksie0 Making her way more reputable than you
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@eveliinahannele Women know this, and are free to choose to risk themselves getting pregnant-- or to make smarter choices and not to facilitate their own dilemmas by engaging in the one and only act which cases their unwanted pregnancies. Grow Up
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@mariec3733 You seem to be speaking just to incite negative attention.
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Nearly 1/2 of them have terminated their own existence, and a portion who haven't are de-transitioning-- They don't EVER talk about that
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No, they inappropriately and incorrectly conflate personality traits and temperament neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys, with gender as if they're synonymous and they aren't. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Them, they conflate gender with s3xu@l preference. Then, they conflate males with females, men with women, science with science-fiction and pseudo science, and finally reality with fantasy. Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent madness. There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the cis prefix totally irrelevant and useless.
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@conor.3875 By their own statements saying trans women are women. Women (ALL of them) are born female. Now you know
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@conor.3875 That has never been true, evidence by ancient manuscripts writing about men and women and their roles in the family
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@Akira-lh9gf How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@Maksie0 Cope and seethe. There are males and females... That's it! Segments of each present with various physical and psych disorders-- some with BOTH, and NONE make it possible for a male to become a female or a female to become a male. Take your time to process reality, for a change
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Me too... How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition, and are then considered "rational"?
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@theyluvnat :face-blue-smiling: If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Once a dude, always a dude
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@markusbaker1161 Aww-- Do you need a cry closet or a comfort pet? If they start their own league, you should go for cheerleader tryouts
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 @markusbaker1161 Well, perhaps you can be their spokes-'person'. I don't really GAF. My concern about the ethics of affirmation care, as the results are HORRIBLE-- is sincere
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@markusbaker1161 I already did. You're Dismissed
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@markusbaker1161 Believe what you will. Be careful of when it works out such that what you believe turns out to not be so
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@markusbaker1161 Like I told you before-- and now again for the benefit of the OP to consider: I have NO problem realizing that there are people who have identity issues. I wish them well in their endeavors to deal with those issues; however-- recognizing that they are not that which they present themselves as, just makes me observant-- Not hateful I haven't been able to make sense of those who advocate affirmation care as a default protocol. The sad fact about the people who suffer with gender dysphoria, and those who inappropriately put themselves under the same umbrella-- who do not suffer with it, yet cosplay as though they do, have other underlying traumatic issues in play-- in addition and the su***de (both prior to and post surgery) is so much higher than the norm, and post surgery-- the numbers I've seen are astronomically high as well, showing unremarkable movement-- SO that being said, I just don't see how it's possible to see those rates and believe it's effective. Can you make it make sense? I can't
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Being "trans" IS the construct
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Troll shadow account renders your useless opinion void
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Wait... They said gender is fluid and disconnected from biology, so how then, is there male privilege? It's incoherent
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Evidence??
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@mariec7352 Ya, none of that's been presented-- which is why I asked for it, and the burden of proof is on the claimant.
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Having an ectopic pregnancy removed is not an abortion. An abortion is the direct and intentional taking of the life of a preborn baby. This is not the case in the removal of an embryo who has implanted outside the uterus.
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Who wouldn't?
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@mariec3733 Transitioning from one sex to the other isn't possible either. All that's possible is to alter their appearance. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@mariec3733 Then stay tf out of women's private spaces
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Yes... A synonym for empathy is pity.
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@jamesbrandon8570 💯% Correct
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Personality traits and temperament are not the same thing as sex/gender. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Too many are conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not. The prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. They conflate personality with gender. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they confuse men for women, and vice versa.
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@loturzelrestaurant Wrong. Gender is intrinsically linked to biological sex. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively-- and male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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@54kitten Still males pretending to be females, and their costumes and makeup didn't make those people women back then either
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@54kitten Just putting things in perspective for you, but things nowadays aren't the same as they were back then. We need to bring back asylums for these head cases
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@54kitten I was born in the 60's dear. I know 1st hand how it was, compared to today. They also eliminated critical thinking and problem solving in the participation trophy generation's school curriculum
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@54kitten You seem triggered. Try to focus
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@54kitten None of that is anything but white noise. The point is this is TOTAL Intellectual bankruptcy. There are males and females, and there are minority segments of each which present with birth defects and various mental illnesses/psych disorders. They aren't "trans" ANYTHING. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance and chemistry, as they are after. The stats of self termination, even after altering their appearance, being what they are-- shows that the current strategy to "help" by using affirmation therapy don't seem to be effective or efficient at all
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@54kitten You changed your name. How cute... Be Gone
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@54kitten It shows as @54kitten on my browser that's not logged in. Are you a phone scammer too?
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@54kitten You've refuted nothing whatsoever, yet here you are... arguing about minutia. I recommend attempting to be relevant, in the future
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@54kitten I thought it obvious the tongue n cheek/snarky nature of that comment was obvious, but apparently not, as it has apparently got you unable to focus on the relevant portion of my comment-- Still. What's that about? Care to give it a shot?
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What a load of 💩 As it turns out-- the prerequisite to being a woman is actually being born female-- and those dudes aren't ever going to be that. Trans women, cross dressers, and drag queens all have one thing in common-- They're ALL Men
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Then, if you just want to act like an animal-- get your tubes tied
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@EmiTheGreat Never procreate. Get your tubes tied.
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@FirstnameLastname-zq8oy Too bad no one pointed out that if the trans-activist's ideology were correct, it would prove the gender pay gap to be a total myth
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@Mr.Kachoochoo The trans ideology is Anti-Women
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@rectangle8883 They can identify as 15' tall too, but that isn't manifested into reality just because they have an active imagination either. The fact that the world doesn't view them as they view themselves, or how they would prefer that it views them-- isn't a problem the world needs to rectify 'For' them. Dressing up for a Comic-Con Convention doesn't actually transform human males or females into Wookies, or Klingons; Same for Drag Queens or 'Trans'-people either. Still XX, or XY
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@mariec3733 Not me... It's the leftists who keep letting r@pists out again and again, after they're convicted
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@mariec3733 Look, stoopid isn't the new smart, clown. Get a grip
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Those men are imposters, impersonating women. Still Men
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Consider the following: Non-living things do not grow and develop. New borns require their mother's care. Infants require their mother's care. Toddlers require their mother's care. Adolescent's rely on their mother's care.
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@darcymr353 "inviolability of a woman's body"? Ya, a fetus doesn't do that. No one is forcing women to risk unwanted pregnancy. Other than a rape scenario, which is 1% of cases-- Women, are the ones who need to exercise control over their own body's to prevent and avoid their own "unwanted" pregnancies, in the other 99% of cases, 100% of the time-- because after come the consequences of their actions, which create a new life, and women know it.
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@mariec7352 Never said they weren't. When they do-- they risk creating a new life, so should make better choices, if they don't wish to facilitate their own dilemma of an unwanted pregnancy.
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@mariec7352 Nope, you're saying that. There's a difference between avoiding an unwanted pregnancy vs avoiding sex which seems to elude you. No worries.
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@mariec7352 That's not an answer to my question. That's also not any justification for terminating the innocent. I'm done repeating the explanations for you. I already told you, I'm not under the impression that there's a place for a meeting of the minds between those who value life, and those like you who admittedly don't, evidenced by you advocating for the termination of the innocent.
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@mariec3733 How come you fail to recognize the autonomy of the child's body-- that the mother created with her choice to engage in the one and only act which causes the unwanted pregnancy?
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@mariec7352 It's not a lie or even a statement. It's a question. Calm down Karen
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@B1scu1t_Case Both are men-- presenting as something they're not, and will never be ie. Women. Their feelings and beliefs don't change that
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Where psychosis and ignorance collide, clarity is seldom found. Women cannot become men and vice versa
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@markusbaker1161 You're confused Blossom. You're in no position to give advice
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@markusbaker1161 who are you talking to, Blossom?
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@markusbaker1161 You Blossom
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@markusbaker1161 Don't need your help. You've established nothing and have refuted even less. Makes your participation less than useless
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@markusbaker1161 You seem to have a vested interest in suggesting that men, when presenting as women, regardless of whether or not they suffer with gender dysphoria-- should be granted access to women's spaces and that women should be okay with that. That's interesting
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@markusbaker1161 I said what I intended. We can agree to disagree, but you've put forth no reason why men, when presenting as women, regardless of whether or not they suffer with gender dysphoria-- should be granted access to women's spaces and that women should be okay with that.
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@markusbaker1161 Your inability to grasp the content is a YOU problem. I don't feel compelled to convince myself that the truth is false and that a lie is true. The claim made by the trans-activist narrative is that trans-women are women. The burden of proof isn't with me. Your ever present anti-woman, anti-social, 'Look at me' arguments, and comments stating that you don't care about opinions that aren't rooted in confirmation bias-- while pressing for answers make you look like you're just as -- T r i g g e r e d, as you did on the debate panel when you lost BIG. Beat it, Blossom-- Don't be a woman hater
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@asdasd123176 Too bad nobody asked if the pro-trans agenda intended to prove that the gender pay gap is a myth, by maintaining the ideology's insistence that gender is separate from biology and fluid.
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90% end up desisting and end up being gay
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* His own voice. That dude is unhinged from reality
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@mariec3733 Seeing the results of DNA and chromosomes forming males and/or females doesn't require an electron microscope to decipher the differences.
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Just to add some precision, infant baby girls have 2 X chromosomes, but they're not women. A woman is an adult, human, female
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@aaralyn6710 Of course you can. A woman is an adult, human, female. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. Now you know
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Not as many as those who've lied, I suspect. I suppose, if it's got nothing to do with biology, attempting to alter their appearance of their biology is extraordinarily odd
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@jestes7 No worries dude
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@claptrap1924 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects or being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. You appear to be inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@becky14 Do you think your life is valuable?
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@hello-sz7hp Single digit IQ from the peanut gallery-- Again. These people are narcissists and sociopaths with no moral foundation.
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Nope... Those who argue that there are are operating at .2 Fetterman's on the IQ scale
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@maincharacter9759 Nope. He's the same sex/gender prior to altering his appearance, as he is after
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That dude has major psych issues
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They are dudes who typically choose to portray a stereotypical caricature of the opposite sex ie. women... Still just dudes in a dress
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If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? In other words: If a girl, trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (supposedly the reason for transitioning), How can gender be fluid and separate from biology? Answer: It can't
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@varyolla435 The thing they all have in common is NONE of them have ANY evidence that the shots work as advertised
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Psych issues run rampant, coupled with affirmation based treatment protocols, as opposed to treating the underlying condition causing the emotional discord in the 1st place
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@deedee2730 Looks like it's time to re-write history huh? You've officially declared an end to r@cism and sexu@l discriminati0n. Woo Hoo
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@becky14 Well, being that r@pe and incest only account for 1% of cases, some perspective is required to address the talking point. On that issue, I would point out that terminating that pregnancy doesn't undo the trauma caused by an attacker. I would also point out that terminating the life of an innocent child doesn't put aside a woman's trauma; It adds to it, an additional victim and the additional potential trauma of the ab0rti0n, experienced by women in significant numbers. Also, the value of the innocent resulting child in the womb, isn't diminished because one or both of their parents were bad. I'm under no delusion that there is a potential for a meeting of the minds, when it comes to philosophical issues about morality, such as issues like these-- which separate those who value life as something bigger than just an opportunity for self-gratification-- from those, who just don't. Women are not forced to have unprotected sex in the other 99% of cases, so if you want to chase pleasure, you have to bear responsibility for the possible outcomes. No innocent life should face termination because of the lack of responsibility among adults. The 'Pro'-choice you're in favor of maintaining-- is the ability to terminate the child in the womb, in the name of convenience and it's shameful. The morals and ethics of those who would declare the unborn to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are questionable-- at Best, and are those of narcissists and sociopaths.
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"It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell These people can't even define what a woman is, so they're not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier.
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@paulsansonetti7410 I appreciate your take. The Left and Right are two wings of the same bird, and neither are upholding their oath of office to uphold the Constitution
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It's always prudent to question the ethics and morals of those who advocate in favor of the choice to terminate the innocent
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@hello-sz7hp I make an exception when the mother's life is in imminent peril.
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@conor.3875 Generally speaking, if the mother perishes, so does the baby in her womb
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@darcymr353 No, You don't get it... In the case of women choosing to facilitate their own risk of pregnancy-- there is no one else to blame for their unwanted pregnancy-- but them, and nobody forced them to do that.
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@darcymr353 There is nothing preventing anyone from starting a family. What are you on about? There are literally millions of women who utilize their preventative birth control products and methods to successfully family plan, and avoid unwanted pregnancies... What do you think they have figured out that eludes so many, who don't?
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@conor.3875 1.14% of cases Only... The other 99.86% it doesn't apply
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@conor.3875 Asked and answered... Generally speaking, if the mother perishes, so does the baby in her womb. The maternal mortality rate for 2020 was 23.8 deaths per 100,000 live births. That's an extremely low number. Twenty (31.3%) of the infants survived up to 5 years of age while 44 (68.6%) did not.
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@darcymr353 You still haven't answered the question. What do you think the women who have figured out how to plan their pregnancy's successfully know, that eludes so many who clearly don't handle their family planning effectively or utilize their preventative birth control effectively?
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@conor.3875 No. It seems word problems give you difficulty
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@darcymr353 Millions of women use theirs successfully to avoid unplanned pregnancy, so what do you think they know that eludes those who don't (?) was the question. Try again, Marie??
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@conor.3875 Still, Not a winning argument there Skippy.
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@darcymr353 That didn't answer my question. Not even close
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@darcymr353 What country is that, Marie C.?
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@darcymr353 Yes, in a human it is-- it's just unborn. That's literally the definition
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@darcymr353 The efficacy of birth control is the same for those women who continually utilize it properly and effectively, now isn't it? What's up with that? What do you think they know that those who continually have issues don't? Oh snap, you didn't think of that either? You really should think deeper thoughts 🥴😵😵‍💫🥱
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@darcymr353 Ya, human DNA. Is that the extent of your argument? You've already stated that you don't think life is valuable, so your opinion is null and void
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@sylviaiwnbaw Dudes.
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Yes, a biological disorder. The exceptions to the rule don't invalidate the rule, they prove the rule by being the exceptions
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Exercising self-control, seems to elude those whinging about wearing emotions on one's sleeve
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That's how ALL the trans-activist cult, agent provocateurs behave. They're narcissists
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@CreativeUsernameEh He's an Extreme Fringe minority Activist-Groomer, Troll and a Fascist
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@krasmasov6852 Another weak and useless comment, Groomer-Troll
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@krasmasov6852 You ask because you're a triggered troll
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@yelljal2764 Those are women
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@yelljal2764 Not if they've had bottom surgery they can't. If they haven't they can
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@maranocna2530 They use the stuff that is used to chemically castrate sex offenders
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@varyolla435 Well that's not much of a refutation, and certainly does not make your case. You really need to do better
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Make no mistake... The same people (the vast minority) who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it.
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@reneetaylor4912 You can neuter a dog and put him in a dress, but he's still a male dog... Just sayin
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Only if they're militant feminists
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No, they're still women-- regardless of the extreme efforts to alter their appearance
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@TheLegendOfRandy Get a vasectomy
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@Maksie0 ALL women are born female, there are no exceptions
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TOO Many seem confused about science, logic, reason and the fact that there are no trans humans. There are only males and females-- That's it. Women aren't a 'Feeling' or a social construct. They're adult, human, females and as it turns out the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. Now you know. Now, Go seethe and cope-- then, in the future, be relevant for a change
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@Maksie0 Why wouldn't you see the vast majority, who have established and chosen to continue the traditions of their society, as the norm???
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@saikohart3058 Respect is earned, and it's reserved for that which is actually respectable. Embracing objective reality is to discern fact from fiction. There's only 1 kind of woman,and they're all born female. Now you know
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@GlockSling There are no trans humans. There are males and females. That's it... Now you know. A woman isn't a costume that men can put on, and she isn't a social construct. Update your understanding to comprehend the fact that personality and gender aren't synonymous, and that fact and fiction aren't interchangeable either.
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@GlockSling You're arguing for the sake or argument. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total lack of any actual virtue in any of your unhinged whinging. Bottom line: Men cannot become women, and if you think they can-- you're unhinged from reality
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@lamari_posa Trans women are MEN with issues, pretending that they're women without issues, while displacing women in sports and with student loan grants, scholarships, etc. I don't find anything respectable about that
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@thatextrovertartist5474 It is the trans-activists like you, who's insistence that others-- who are already minding their own business, participate in your LARP and cosplay, by insisting on the grammatically incorrect use of pronouns, and with no regard for the displacement of women's privacy, which is at the root of how you brought your business to everyone in public, making it their business. Irony or idiocy? Quit your whining. You look and sound ridiculous
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@lamari_posa The majority reject the trans ideological narratives. Cope Harder... You aren't fooling anyone but yourselves
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The trans-ideology is anti-woman
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@ABagOfPotatoes You presume a lot about me. Having been a behavior modification specialist for many years, working with the developmentally disabled-- I realize that validating a person's delusions resulting from a mental illness isn't how you help or treat them. I mean, you don't tell a person with schizophrenia who's insisting that the toaster is talking to them and telling them to do harm to themselves or others that they're correct, or by validating their delusional belief that they can fly, as they prepare to jump off the roof of a building, in the name of empathy. Get Real
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How does it not? The choice you're in favor of maintaining-- is the ability to terminate the child in the womb. The morals and ethics of those who would declare the unborn to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are questionable-- at Best, and are those of narcissists and sociopaths.
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@Maksie0 Rejection... You better get used to it
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It's not like a lobotomy could hurt. We need to bring back asylums
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@rosebud1559 Nearly all of them are now shuttered and closed. The number of people admitted to psychiatric hospitals and other residential facilities in America declined from 471,000 in 1970 to 170,000 in 2014, according to the National Association of State Mental Health Program Directors. The numbers of mentally ill roaming the streets is the result
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@rosebud1559 They're clearly not setup to contend with the sort of numbers of mentally ill on the streets now. If they could've done that, there would've been ZERO issues re: c19 bed space availability
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@rosebud1559 Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@rosebud1559 And there are a lot of other mentally ill people to contend with, besides those with gender dysphoria
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@markusbaker1161 Calling those men something else, doesn't make them something else. They're still men, regardless of their attire.
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@markusbaker1161 Calling them something else doesn't alter reality. They're men
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@markusbaker1161 Repeating yourself, doesn't make you any less wrong. Their gender is exactly the same-- even if you use a different name-- they're still men
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@Maksie0 Were you trying to prove their point to be accurate and true??
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Why would someone be proud of having a dissociative disorder?
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@markusbaker1161 Maybe, maybe not. If it's just some dude in cosplay, then it's just a dude with a quirky fashion sense. If it's someone who has issues with their identity in conflict with their biology-- then that by definition is a dissociative disorder
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@markusbaker1161 No, I maintain that it is. I know that not all guys who dress like girls suffer with gender dysphoria, some are just weirdos
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@markusbaker1161 Back at you
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@markusbaker1161 The difference is that I'm correct, and you are not-- and you have not cited anything proving otherwise
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@markusbaker1161 You're not qualified to say, and you've presented nothing which proves me incorrect
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@markusbaker1161 Quite an imagination you have... I'm not diagnosing any particular specific case. You've still not cited anything that proves me incorrect
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@markusbaker1161 You're triggered. If you want to pretend that a guy in a dress is a girl-- go ahead. As for me, I'm more discerning and am unwilling to participate in the cosplay
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@markusbaker1161 Considering that you've not written anything that changes the fact that trans-women are merely men by another name, your arguments are irrelevant
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@markusbaker1161 trans-women are men. Your arguments are irrelevant
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@markusbaker1161 No they aren't, and you've failed to prove otherwise
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@markusbaker1161 No, they aren't. A woman is defined as an adult, human, female. If you need further explanation and clarification of what that means, I highly recommend you visit a medical university biology department
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@markusbaker1161 You're wrong, but that's ok... you can blame your ignorance
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@markusbaker1161 You've already proven it to my satisfaction. Trans women, cross dressers and drag queens are men. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 You are not able to cite any evidence that shows trans women are not biological men.
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@markusbaker1161 Valid?? They're valid people. Those who you're referring to as trans women-- are men. The reasons why they present as 'other than' men don't change that fact
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@markusbaker1161 You can call them whatever you want-- they're still men... that doesn't change with a name change
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@markusbaker1161 Me too. They're men, regardless of whether they're cross dressers, drag queens, guys with a quirky fashion sense or considered by you or others as trans women. Still men
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@markusbaker1161 That over-used term doesn't conjure the sort of impact you hoped it would, when contrasted against your Islamophobia
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@markusbaker1161 The shoe does not fit, according to the definition you provided. Observing the fact that they're men doesn't indicate one way or the other how I feel about it. You're projecting again
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@markusbaker1161 No it doesn't. You have established that you have comprehension challenges when it comes to definitions. ex. The definition of gender: Gender refers to the sex assigned/observed at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. The social aspects of being male or female are socially constructed, and they're well-established since the dawn of time. That you wish to close your eyes to the facts, or protest about them-- change nothing.
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@markusbaker1161 Disagree
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@markusbaker1161 I'm definitely correct. Your confusion doesn't change that. You've shown that you're either intellectually impaired and/or confused about the facts and the truth that trans women are men. You not knowing what to make of that, doesn't make your analysis or conclusions correct, and it definitely doesn't prove me incorrect.
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@markusbaker1161 Your opinion is noted, has been given due consideration, and has been dismissed as less than useless
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@markusbaker1161 Facts don't care about your feelings either. You're a misogynist, and it shows
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@markusbaker1161 You're wrong, and your ideas are insane
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That's because you're a racist
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There's no middle ground on moral issues like these, between those who value life-- and those who don't and categorize it as disposable, in the name of convenience
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@Dalighting Reading comprehension deficit presenting a problem for you?
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@Maksie0 🤣😂🤕
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@jessiedotson8101 Personally, I think it's illogical to expect rational communication or thought from the mentally unhinged
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😁🖖
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Then the narrative that a girl that thinks she's a boy ie. trapped in a boy's body who has an immutable male identity, as justification for radical irreversible surgery is TOTALLY WRONG. The incoherence of the trans-ideology is that BOTH are True, and they conflict. They can't both be true
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@Maksie0 Activist gr00mer... gfy
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Translation = ReeeEEEeeeEEEee
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@alexanderwarren221 We already have male and female bathrooms. Those whom you seek to accommodate are only male or female, respectively and they're not trans-- anything. Still male or female, respectively-- as they were prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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The stats showing the self-termination rate of those who've altered their appearance, remaining nearly 10x's higher than the average, shows that they're not "happy" or well-adjusted individuals by any standard metric.
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@Domino454545 Their imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. Those who are in a dissociative state, don't dictate what is acceptable or normal to those who aren't suffering with those sorts of psych issues If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@Domino454545 Says the pro-choice crowd. Show me someone who values life and insists on the ability to terminate life, and I'll show you a hypocrite. Expecting the world to perceive you as you perceive yourself, and ignore objective reality to affirm one's subjective feelings with indifference to the facts is unreasonable at best, and totally narcissistic-- and isn't worthy of respect-- as I see it.
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They say gender identity and sex are separate, but haven't been able to justify encroaching on spaces designated segregated based on sex, as an entitlement. Not even close They also haven't come close yet, to being able to justify the expectation that just because they present and identify in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must treat them as though they're the opposite sex. It's absurd
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@mariec3733 🙄
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That unhinged dude is an activist, agent provocateur
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@Maksie0 No, they want to be called trans women, so they can pretend they're not men.
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A couch is non-binary. People are not
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@markusbaker1161 Uh huh... 🙄
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@markusbaker1161 Facts are awesome and stubborn things, like the fact that the condition of being male (XY) is fixed and permanent. People like Blossom are merely caricatures of what they wish they were, and can never be-- Women
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@AVIANAESMERALDASZISTENNO I stand corrected. Thank you. There's no one that I'm aware of that has a problem with someone who chooses celibacy or isn't interested in sex. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. No? Thoughts?
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@markusbaker1161 Altering one's structure and a wardrobe doesn't change one's sex/gender. That's a fact
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@markusbaker1161 I recognize that they are not that which they claim to be or present themselves as, like it or not. The fact is that the social norms are actually established currently, and a dude in a dress LARPing and engaging in cosplay are clearly not it, and even if they were-- it's still a dude in a dress not trans anything. They're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after. These dudes like Blossom are the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not.
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@markusbaker1161 Ahh... My stalker. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the absence of any actual virtue in any of your interactions. You've been exposed as nothing more than an agitator.
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is the construct. Deal with it and cope harder
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@markusbaker1161 Well, that's not much of a refutation. Do Better
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is the REAL construct. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. That you can't wrap your head around that is a You problem. Just Cope Harder
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What way?
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@pigeonisgay how so? Make a case. Where's the virtue in your virtue signal, without making your case?
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@pigeonisgay Men and women need each other. That you find this controversial is astounding. The trans-activist ideology is attempting to rename personality traits and temperament, which are Not gender exclusive, "Gender" and that's incorrect
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@pigeonisgay They call men toxic, but when those men call out their toxic female empowerment, then the females label the men bigots and sexists
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Emotionally, intellectually and spiritually stunted behavior is to be expected from those sorts
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@paint67 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. You're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering your appearance as you are after.
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@N_Jones The imagination (which they seem to be using synonymously with 'gender') doesn't transform biology, reality, or anyone's DNA-- Even if they REALLY believe it (making them delusional). They could have a surgeon transform their appearance to look like a Klingon, but that doesn't make anyone a Klingon-- even if they Reeaaallllly believe it-- either. If the chromosome doesn't have a Y, it isn't a guy. Intersex isn't another gender-- it's a birth defect and an anomaly. The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule-- They prove the rule, hence being the exceptions It's XX, XY, Birth Defect... That's It. The fact that they're confused should come as no real surprise. For the most part, it seems to be that they're activists, and morons-- arguing that the delusions of the mentally impaired ought to be affirmed and validated by people who don't suffer from those delusions.
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So you're also a fascist... Interesting
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@mirrormaize Not from a male perspective. They have ZERO perspective about being male, as they're female, and always will be. If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? In other words: If a girl, trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (supposedly the reason for transitioning), How can gender be fluid and separate from biology? Answer: It can't
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🤣🤡Bunch of women speculating about being men w/ a bunch of men
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@Rip_Bobby-t4l No it is not. What it is however, are bunch of women who mutilated their anatomy and screwed up their natural hormones to appear more like that which they'll NEVER be, Men-- while speculating about being men w/ a bunch of men
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@Maksie0 How do you know? Do you know all of them? Why are you presuming their subjective gender identity?
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@markusbaker1161 So?
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@markusbaker1161 Not one that makes men women. Try to be relevant
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@markusbaker1161 Again-- still men, not women
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@markusbaker1161 Not opinion, fact. Still males. That category is fixed and permanent. Sorry to burst your bubble
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@markusbaker1161 Don't care. Changing the name of something doesn't change what the thing is. Male and female are permanent states of being
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@markusbaker1161 You've not persuaded me to accept your definition of gender, so we will have to agree to disagree. The definition of gender that I have always used, refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively.
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@markusbaker1161 Don't care. I reject your opinions, analysis and conclusions as nonsense, and your because someone else said so standard is rejected as well. I'm turning off my notifications for this video. You're going to have to find someone else to play the part of the fool with.
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@markusbaker1161 How are they-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? Why should those men, who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria be granted access to women's private spaces? You got nuthin Blossom
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@markusbaker1161 Just know that in the future, when you insist on your preferred pronouns idiocy, the response will be "I don't care", and it'll be delivered with a smile. I've already exposed the idiocy of your narrative's claims that trans women are women to be ridiculous I know you haven't answered with integrity or honesty, and I don't presume that you will. Kick Rocks Blossom
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Not uncommon among intellectual midgets.
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HA... Too bad nobody asked if the pro-trans agenda intended to prove that the gender pay gap is a myth, by maintaining the ideology's insistence that gender is separate from biology and fluid.
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@maranocna2530 Pull your head out of the sand and have a look around. Ask Budweiser and Target... That sound is the sound of men and women everywhere rejecting this intellectually vacant and morally repugnant trans-activist ideology. Cope Harder
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Well, you sure showed her up. 🤡
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Why? What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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The amount of toxic femininity coming from the women in this video is too
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Being that you're someone who can relate to not caring about others-- why bother posting as if others should care about your opinions?
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@noahlutzke9456 Got it. It was a 'Look at me' post, just to virtue signal a virtueless opinion.
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@krasmasov6852 Uh huh... 🤡You-- like I said, conflate science w/ science-fiction. You're for science except for that pesky chromosome issue that you can't get away from... You don't like that one too much. Then, there are the violent trans-women who've been incarcerated in women's prisons, impregnating some of the female inmates, proving they are not that which they claim to be ie. women, and their precious feeling are irrelevant regarding that fact, but I get that you don't get it... "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell To the feminists who go along to get along with this trans-activist ideology... Best of luck in your near dystopian future, where you'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim they're now women too.
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Sex and gender are not disconnected. Gender and gender roles aren't synonymous with personality traits and temperament.
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The conservatives don't give a crap about how people identify themselves. It's when they start to insist that everyone else in the world bend to their delusions, insisting that others identify with their confusion, as if it's based in reality
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@briannachilders772 Nope... XX (Male), XY (Female), Birth Defect, or evidence that a psych evaluation and treatment commence immediately-- if not sooner, or people embracing their own perversions. That's It! The feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where as a feminist-- you'll be living under the tyranny of men, co-opting womanhood-- saying that they're the woman who you will be competing against, now that they are women.
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A woman is an adult, human, female.
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@BenDover-gc6qe That dude is unhinged from reality
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They're women
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@Roxana Blacksea Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@Roxana Blacksea It's XX, XY, Birth Defect, Psych Disorder. That's it! Like I said, If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. You've failed to refute that, and the 'because you said so' standard has been issued zero credibility, as you've failed to persuade. You seem to inappropriately be conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament-- (neither of which are gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboy) with gender. I mean, you can identify as a Klingon for all I care, but that doesn't make it so; So-- how are they, who think it does Not delusional and detached from reality evidenced by their clearly dissociative state???
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@allie4492 You look triggered. Try decaf
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@allie4492 You look triggered. Try decaf
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@alicerose6640 I wasn't directing that at you Kym. ;)
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@allie4492 Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue are people who don't live in reality about there being two genders. Cope harder
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It's really not up to him. They need our validation-- Not the other way around
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@Maksie0 There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are
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@_trevorbutler_ Quit conflating gender-- there are 2 (Male/female), with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, and None are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys), and gender roles-- as though they're synonymous. They Aren't. Gender refers to the sex observed and documented at birth, and also refers to the social aspects (Gender Roles-- which vary from country to country, society to society, and culture to culture. They are long established, and steeped in tradition-- BUT, they all relate to males and females) of being male or female, respectively.
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It's pure self-entitled narcissism, on their part.
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Being trans is the construct. Cope harder
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They call men toxic ,but when those men call out their toxic female empowerment, then the females label the men bigots and sexists
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The thing is, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@matt1325 Anything to avoid personal accountability for their choices
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@clumsy_zebra_97 Newsflash: Your subjective identity doesn't impact your biology at all, and so-- those men have no business in women's spaces designed and implemented based on biology, NOT subjective identities.
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@Hihihihi716 There is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born females, making the use of cis less than useless and an intentional slur
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@becky14 The prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female and he is not that. Are you able to cite any evidence that shows trans women are not biological men? I see them as synonymous
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@markusbaker1161 I know you do. Apparently, you've never successfully won anything but a participation trophy. It may explain why you're so desperate and lonely
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@markusbaker1161 No doubt
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@becky14 Gender is not a social construct. The roles associated with gender are the social constructs, such as trans gender
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@markusbaker1161 The definition of gender: Gender refers to the sex assigned/observed at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. The social aspects of being male or female are socially constructed, and they're well-established since the dawn of time. That you wish to close your eyes to the facts change nothing.
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They're not trans anything. They're confused men
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@lokalemadderfakker_nl Don't pretend that term is necessary for actual scientists. The people using it are ridiculous and are certainly not scientists. Why would someone who believes they're a woman wish to have the distinction drawn? That's Odd
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@sprklejumpropedoll It's redundant in normal parlance, when discussing biological women. Let's not pretend we're talking to scientists here. The trans people are the only ones who wish to make an unnecessary and thoroughly redundant distinction, to identify biological women-- who don't need the distinction made about them.
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Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@lokalemadderfakker_nl Are you aware that your comments are being shadow banned/deleted. Try logging out, and revisit while logged out and see. They're the same sex/gender as they were prior to surgery and hormones. Still male or female, respectively. All they're doing is altering their appearance. Getting a nose job alters one's appearance too, and it doesn't affect your sex or gender either
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@lokalemadderfakker_nl Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@zesty6070 How so? Women, simply put-- are women. It's men, who want others to see them as women, who get triggered when we see through their disguises and call them out for it
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@Maksie0 You're such an activist hack
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Gender (There are 2 male/female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Personality traits and temperament are not synonymous with gender, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys-- Yet, so many conflate gender w/ personality. Women and men aren't social constructs, or a mere costume that can be put on or taken off
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That dude's shoe size dwarfs his IQ
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I figured that meant it was obvious that she was a female in disguise, and her ideology is Pure nonsense from start to finish-- It also seemed he was saying, "I don't require your validation or the validation from the trans-activist community-- AT ALL. They're requiring mine, and the answer is, No and that his position is that You/they-- fail to persuade You can neuter a dog and make him wear a dress, but he's still a male dog regardless of the surgery or elaborate disguise. Just sayin...
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@conor.3875 That they can become women
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@MiaSummer-cm6cy Show me someone who values life and advocates for the ability to terminate life, and I'll show you a hypocrite
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Those delusional women pretending to be men, and getting upset at not being recognized for their preferred disguise vs who and what they actually are, is what's funny to me
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@ItsSchwifty That isn't a refutation. You want me to change my view, and accept your pov as true and correct-- Then, you need to be at lot more persuasive than you have been so far.
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They inappropriately conflate personality traits and temperament, as though they're synonymous with gender, and they're Not
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@SomeGuy-so3kk Morally bankrupt Morons... There's a LOT of them
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@Im_Julissa I'm under no delusion that there is a potential for a meeting of the minds, when it comes to philosophical issues about morality, such as issues like these-- which separate those who value life as something bigger than just an opportunity for self-gratification-- from those like you, who just don't. Women are not forced to have unprotected sex, so if you want to chase pleasure, you have to bear responsibility for the possible outcomes. No innocent life should face termination because of the lack of responsibility among adults.
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@lordwind9745 When men vote to eliminate women's rights by insisting they themselves are women, and that women need to just be quiet and take it, -- It looks like the ultimate display of misogyny. Do you think women's showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, restrooms, sports leagues/teams, or prisons are designated as such based on a subjective gender identity claim, or perhaps it's based on biology? Think deeper thoughts
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They're hedonists embracing their degeneracy
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@Maksie0 Your narratives aren't based in reality in any way. Men can't become women. Cope harder
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They're not trans anything, just because they altered their appearance. Still the same sex/gender prior to altering their look, as they are after
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@wren7818 Developmental sex disorders aren't evidence of another sex invalidating the binary of all mammalian species. Gender is not disconnected from biology. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There are people and they are males and females and there are segments of both which present with various birth defects, psych disorders, and some with both-- none of which are evidence of other genders invalidating the binary. It's XX (Female), XY (Male), and a variety of Birth defects/disorders within segments of each ... neither of which display sex organs other than that found in the binary. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@Maksie0 Ya, but you can't see the difference between fantasy and reality, so by default-- your opinion is based on incoherent nonsense. That's the sound of rejection. Get used to it, and cope harder
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@firetube8288 Transphobe is a toothless cult term used to shut down speech, and seems to be used by you, for what the rest of the world refers to as common sense. When men vote to eliminate women's rights by insisting they themselves are women, and that women need to just be quiet and take it, -- It looks like the ultimate display of misogyny. Do you think women's showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, restrooms, sports leagues/teams, or prisons are designated as such based on a subjective gender identity claim, or perhaps it's based on biology?
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@mood1676 You believe that huh? I had a paranoid schizophrenic tell me that aliens are in direct contact with him and the other true heroes on the planet. Also that they communicate through fruit. I just nodded. Affirmation treatment protocols suggest that their delusion should've been affirmed as valid. Make it make sense
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They're self-loathing, and misery loves company. Study title: “Risk of Su~c~de and Self-H@rm Following Gender-Affirmation Surgery” Conclusions from the studies: "Individuals who underwent gender-affirming surgery had a 12-fold higher su~ci~de attempt risk, than those who did not" “Gender-affirming surgery is significantly associated with elevated su~c~de attempt risks, underlining the necessity for comprehensive post-procedure psychiatric support.”
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@racheljones4561 Got it... So you're apathetic about things, or crime that doesn't directly affect you. That's pure narcissism
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@mariec3733 Um--You might want to look up the definition. Your definition isn't it
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@mariec3733 Narcissism is a self-centered personality style characterized as having an excessive interest in one's physical appearance or image and an excessive preoccupation with one's own needs, often at the expense of others. Like abortion on demand as a matter of convenience
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@TheLegendOfRandy As I pointed out, 'There is no medical or scientific case for a fetus to be called a parasite. The only case to be made is strictly hyperbole'
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@TheLegendOfRandy Just be responsible. Shame on you
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@AutisticKittyStar Who are you trying to convince? Get Real!!! Kids don't belong at pride parades and hyper-s3xualized adult burlesque entertainment events.
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It's the fact that they aren't that which they claim to be-- for me.
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@Maksie0 HAHAHAHHA That's wrong... Women don't need to 'trans'-- to be what they are. "Trans women" are men who are LARPing
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That sound you're hearing is the sound of women and men rejecting the trans ideological cult narrative, and terminology and calling it out for what it is-- bull 💩
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I recognize dudes as dudes, regardless of their quirky cosplay and LARPing-- presenting themselves as flamboyant, stereotypes and caricatures of women. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female
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@markusbaker1161 It was in Finland, silly
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@Sipu97 See what I mean? He's a troll and a stalker
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@markusbaker1161 No, they based off your narratives claims that trans women are women
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@markusbaker1161 Just know that in the future, when you insist on your preferred pronouns idiocy, the response will be "I don't care", and it'll be delivered with a smile, and a sturdy you're dismissed. I've already exposed the idiocy of your narrative's claims that trans women are women to be ridiculous I know you haven't answered with integrity or honesty, and I don't presume that you will. Kick Rocks Blossom
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@markusbaker1161 You seem to have a vested interest in suggesting that men, when presenting as women, regardless of whether or not they suffer with gender dysphoria-- should be granted access to women's spaces, and that women should be okay with that. Very Odd
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, it's odd
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@markusbaker1161 You lose! :text-green-game-over:
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@mariec3733 Yes, it is
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@bgos4727 Yes
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@Erik-fn7kj Yes-- Mary, Mary quite contrary. Barring a still-born situation, the fetus is alive, and is human-- not merely a cyst. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual virtue in ANY of your posts
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@ussypussyfussy LOL What? Are you one of those who's shoe size dwarfs your IQ?
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Why care about the opinions of people who's opinions-- you detest?
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@leebodeebo All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, preference, or costume making the cult terminology as you apply it w/ cis/trans intellectually hollow and irrelevant.
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@shortangel333 Pick a bridge
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Try that out in Saudi Arabia, and see how well that works out for your empowerment claims
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@DefiledDame A psych disorder doesn't change objective reality
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Expecting a properly calibrated moral compass or sense of intellectual clarity from those with psych disorders is illogical
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They're self-centered narcissists, with concern for nothing and no one, but themselves
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@TheLegendOfRandy Nothing respectable about those who would terminate the lives of their own offspring
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@mariec3733 People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and prior. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules, it has nothing to do with gender.
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@cqllel5186 "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance."-- T. Sowell
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Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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It wouldn't matter because the pro trans narrative is incoherent madness
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@krasmasov6852 Gender, personality traits, & temperament, are different things
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@MegaVega2007 Based on being male or female, respectively. You're conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous and they are not.
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@ECHO14572 Cis/Trans are used in chemistry to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules, and it has NOTHING to do with gender
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@oomphdooph No, Cis/Trans are used in chemistry to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules, and it has NOTHING to do with gender
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@elsesullivan3376 That is patently false. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female, and those dudes-- were Not, and are not women
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@TheGuiltsOfUs That's wrong... There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Those dudes on the panel were not and will never be any kind of woman. Now you know better
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The thing is, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@Maksie0 People are individuals. This madness is you throwing yourselves under the bus
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@markusbaker1161 You wouldn't know... You admitted to not reading my replies.
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@markusbaker1161 Respect is a 2-way street, and you've proven you are not willing to show Any-- So none should be expected to be shown to you-- in return. Your approval isn't required
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@markusbaker1161 You never earned it. You and I disagree. The relevant difference is, I've articulated why I disagree, and you have not articulated why you dismiss the reasoning of the medical experts-- opposing those in whom, you put your faith. No worries. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, and you certainly aren't persuading me, that your belief is founded in anything other than blind faith and the willingness to ignore inconvenient truths-- which expose the problems with the shallow arguments, and hollow slogans you've been using-- while making a a spectacle of yourself.
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@markusbaker1161 I know! You set out to argue for sport, free from a coherent argument and intentionally engaging without integrity factoring into the equation. I appreciate you arguments providing me opportunity to sharpen my arguments counter to yours, and to see more clearly the disconnect of the trans narrative from reality. I was instead, hoping for an actual conversation with some honest dialogue-- but I try to make the best of things, there was none to be found here.
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@Erik-fn7kj Is that why you don't feel empowered, because you perceive that you're not needed by anyone? Perhaps a comfort pet will help you? No, Real men feel empowered because of their merit, competence in achieving their goals and the successes of their accomplishments.
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@Erik-fn7kj If only that were true... there are people actually who don't like animals. It would depend on the reason they need you
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@Maksie0 You sure seem to delight in your foolishness
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The narrative suggests that gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity. Both can't be true, showing the narrative is incoherent
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@Maksie0 Evidence?
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@Marie-CharlotteT Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1.) Your body and brain develop & grow together -> You simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2.) Hating a part of you body so much, that you cut it off, is a mental illness.
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@mariebrassart9868 It in fact-- isn't. A woman isn't a costume that men can simply put on. Women aren't a social construct. They're wrong on gender. They're inappropriately conflating gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender with gender roles. Then, they conflate males with females As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those men weren't. Now you know
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@missshaye6591 I wasn't the one who said it was. Those who reside in Fantasyland avoid reality like the plague, so have already lost the plot
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@aLittleAtomBomb I get it. The point still applies. Tell me, why should a male, be granted access to female's private spaces like dressing rooms, locker rooms, sports teams, restrooms and prisons?
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@aLittleAtomBomb Why do you assume that is my assumption? Can't you answer the question?
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@kbmain :virtualhug:🥰🙏
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To all the feminists who go along to get along w/ this incoherent ideology-- I wish you well in the near dystopian future, where you'll now be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will say they're women too.
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When you portray yourself as something you aren't-- that's appropriation
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Agreed, but the girls are worse. They're the one's who terminated their own children. The guy couldn't have forced them to consent to the procedure if they chose not to
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IS there a common ground between those who live in reality vs those who buy into this ideology, based in subjective fantasy? I don't think so
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Evidence??
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@zYzIEk90 You failed to cite a suggested cause. Pandemic, experimental inoculations, less competent physicians?
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 @zYzIEk90 I blame the clot shots... What do you think is at the heart of it?
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@zYzIEk90 What's the ratio of the decline in birth rates and the increase in maternal mortality rates? The stats also show the decline in birth rates overall and continuing decline, perhaps nearing the tipping point. Further limiting the birth rate seems counter-productive, does it not?
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@zYzIEk90 Exterminating the life of the innocent in the name of convenience is ghastly, and abhorrent.
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@zYzIEk90 Well That's Wrong Dead things don't grow and develop. Not only is it a life, it's a human life
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@mariec3733 Hopefully, it isn't an option for much longer. The notion that terminating the lives of the innocent because people can't hold themselves personally accountable for their own actions is ok-- is ghastly and ghoulish bordering on sociopathic, imo. BTW, your feelings don't matter either, so suck it up, buttercup
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No, it's more like subscribing to a sexist, s3x stereotype
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The only consistent philosophically sound point at which that happens and is proven by scientific evidence-- is at the moment of conception, because that's when a new human life is created.
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@HootyASMR They are just not the sex they present as, and wish they could be. They're still valid people. Trans women are men with issues, pretending to be women without issues
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@Maksie0 Is that the sort of response you should expect, when questioned about your preferred pronouns? Just curious
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@mariec7352 Quit your sniveling, whiner
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@mariec7352 You're projecting again.
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@Maksie0 Naturally-- That's why they're offing themselves in record numbers
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Your point being, no doubt-- that if disguised as a woman it would more difficult to go unnoticed in a woman's bathroom?? Gaslight harder
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@bookswithrowanundertherowa3348 Since leftists are supposed to be against r@pe, why do you suppose they continue to advocate for their early release and then release them again and again?
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Intersex is a physical phenomenon, while trans is a psych issue. Trans women are MEN with issues, pretending that they're women without issues
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@conor.3875 No, it's the name of the condition which causes the delusion
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 @markusbaker1161 Your attention seeking is pathetic
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@markusbaker1161 There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women, illustrating that your narrative is a totally bogus faith-based belief with zero evidence to support your claim that trans women are women. Checkmate / You lost
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@markusbaker1161 That's you all form, No substance. Be Gone
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@markusbaker1161 The fringe ideas are coming from your side of the isle dear. You are the vast vast minority arguing against objective reality. Men cannot become women and vice versa. There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women or vice versa-- and until there is your narrative is bogus
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@markusbaker1161 There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women or vice versa-- and until there is, your narrative is bogus.
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There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the cis prefix entirely irrelevant. Now you know
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Perhaps he's the bread winner. Did that really not occur to you?
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Actually the laws of entropy show that over time things devolve into chaos, they don't organize themselves to be more efficient
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@krasmasov6852 Nope, even in virology, viruses which develop mutant variant strains become weaker not stronger, as is the case w/ Omicron. You should really quit while you're behind
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@jellirabauke2565 There is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female, making the usage of the 'Cis' prefix entirely useless and irrelevant
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@NightRose666 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the use of cis totally irrelevant and useless.
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@brudel4829 IF that were correct and true-- the suci** rates would not be so much significantly higher than the average, even after they alter their appearance
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@aaralyn6710 Evidence??
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To the feminists who go along to get along with this incoherent ideology-- Best of luck in your near dystopian future, where you'll be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will call themselves women too. smh-- You don't even see it do you?
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Those delusional women pretending to be men, and getting upset at not being recognized for their preferred disguise vs who and what they actually are, is what's funny to me
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Nope. Variations in personality traits and temperament, neither of which are gender exclusive hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys, doesn't = synonymous with gender
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@Maksie0 If it were correct, they wouldn't be self-terminating their stay on earth prematurely in rates significantly higher than, others
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@Maksie0 You 1st
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Beta isn't the new masculine
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That sound you're hearing is the sound of women and men rejecting your ideological trans, cult narrative, and terminology and calling it out for what it is-- bull 💩. Don't believe me? Ask Budweiser
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@lizpurvis1064 Truth = Men can't be women and vice versa
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If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity?
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@Ipernova 100 up votes
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@stonedimmaculate2942 There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Transphobe, is a cult term used to pretend that there is another gender other than male/female--But there isn't. Don't conflate gender, gender roles and personality as though they're synonymous. They aren't
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@Maksie0 That's the sound of reality pointing out and rejecting your imaginary bull 💩
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Because society is based in reality, and it's not subject to reorganize itself for the subjective wishes of those who are counter-culture to the very society that they dwell in
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Because they want to appear to be more than the extreme fringe minority, that they are
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A dude in a dress, wearing makeup, and insisting that it's Ma'am-- doesn't make him a woman, anymore than a kid in a play wearing a dragon costume makes them a dragon-- EVEN IF they both REALLY believe it. Only the delusional, and those who's IQ is below room temperature seem unable to connect the dots
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@krasmasov6852 It could be... Mr. Doctor or Mrs. Doctor would make it so in your delusional semantic fantasyland games, wouldn't it? You know what else isn't a matter of gender identity? Personality traits and Temperament, neither of which are gender exclusive-- yet you mislabel them gender. There are 2 genders. Male and Female
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@Maksie0 Trans is the fringe-- women aren't the opposite of trans, they're the standard which trans women are trying to emulate-- making the cis distinction entirely irrelevant and redundant
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@mariec3733 Look at you... You seem intent on provoking, to incite negative attention. Get some therapy
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@Erik-fn7kj Opinions are like orgasms... Mine is more important than yours, and I don't care if you have one or not. You've refuted nothing whatsoever, making your opinion entirely irrelevant.
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The problem is that these are disturbed, not happy individuals and their sewer slide rate illustrates it clearly
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@hollowdubz915 It's not judging someone as eligible for eternal salvation or not, to discern and recognize that they are not that which they claim to be. We are called not to be unequally yoked to non-believers, and it is written that homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord.
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Racist
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@ILovePink-x1v They're inappropriately attempting to rename and recategorize the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence tomboys, effeminate males, or butch females), "Gender"-- and that's just incorrect
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@mariec3733 LOL Clown. No, I said she made her choice, then asked you what you're talking about, as if you had a clue, and you haven't answered-- Again
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The trans-activist narrative and agenda is anti-women, and totally incoherent. On one hand, they claim that gender is fluid and not connected to biology. On the other hand they insist that a girl trapped in a boy's body is in fact a boy, and has been since birth and has an immutable male identity. Both cannot be true Best of luck to the feminists who go along to get along with this nonsense, as they'll be dealing with a dystopian future where they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim to be women too.
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Show me someone who values life and advocates for the ability to terminate life, and I'll show you a hypocrite
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Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@markusbaker1161 No hate involved in being observant. That's not much of a refutation. Perhaps if they start their own sports leagues-- you can go out for the cheer leading squad of your favorite team
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@markusbaker1161 XY, Not women and not trans anything. Feel free to stew about it. It changes nothing
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@markusbaker1161 Believe what you will, your analytical capacity has been proven to be overloaded-- and is dismissed as nonsense-- and your failure to comprehend that changes nothing
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@markusbaker1161 Your failure to comprehend invalidates nothing. Their gender appropriation in the form of a caricature, is fooling no one w/ a functional prefrontal cortex. They're the same as they ever were-- dudes w/ psych issues and physical mutilation to prove it
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@Seagull No, they aren't correct AT ALL. FWIW-- Intersex is a birth defect, not another gender
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@Seagull Of course it is. Your failure to comprehend basic biology or recognize the traits of human anatomy is noted and your statements to the contrary do not serve evidence to support your incoherent claims. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social implications of being male or female-- Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. You ever notice that mammals come in male or female and when you neuter your dog, it doesn't make it a female? Rhetorical Quit conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament and trying to use that as a synonym for gender. They're clearly not gender exclusive, hence effeminate males and butch females.
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@Seagull Intersex is a deviation of both sexes, not its own seperate sex. Sex is determined by gamete production, there is only egg and sperm in mammals/humans. This is why you turn up to biology class instead of art class lmao
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If you think others affirming your subjective identity is necessary to establish the truth, it is you who are fragile
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They're still females-- just now self-mutilated and playing dress up
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He's an agent provocateur, aka-- a useless idi0t used to push this incoherent ideological narrative's agenda
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It's actually deceiving those who fall for the nonsense
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@labow12 Deceiving?? How so??? Crickets... Kick Rocks
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@jupiterfox7683 That isn't much of a rebuttal.
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@jupiterfox7683 If? Because it's a mental dis0rder, affirming a delusion as n0rm@l isn't helpful to the afflicted
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@maria199736 Whoa to the feminists who go along to get along with this crazy ideology, where in your near future, you'll be oppressed by men who will say they're women... And You don't even see it coming. Open your eyes. Men cannot become women and women cannot become men. The condition is permanent, regardless of how elaborately you attempt to disguise it.
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@maria199736 My statement is very specific too. I said it as a prediction and as an illustration as to how this insanity will not turn out the way you think it will regardless of your intentions
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@myabooty37 The incoherent activist's ideology insists that men can be women too, so why so triggered??
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@chechechawawa8947 Where psychosis and ignorance collide, clarity is seldom found to reside. Women cannot become men and men cannot become women. Oh ya-- intersex is a birth defect, not another gender-- of which there are only 2. They're conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender-- it's just incorrect.
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No one said that. Cubic Zirconia look like the real thing, BUT, when you know what you're looking at, you know-- They are Not. The same correlation applies to the trans ideology.
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@Maksie0 Weak
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Birth control is a means for preventing you from getting pregnant. It doesn't always work, and you know that-- so YOU assume the risk of getting pregnant, when you're out there creating the risk you say you're desperately trying to avoid. You just want an easy pass to be promiscuous without any consequences. Well, there's no such thing. Please NEVER procreate. Get your tubes tied, since you have such a vested interest in maintaining your pursuit of promiscuity on demand
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@noicegallagher4315 Obviously...
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@mariec3733 But for the life of the mother being in imminent peril, where the baby can't-- survive I see no justification that you've provided here or anywhere else.
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@mariec3733 It's as though you fail to recognize that my comment is actually visible, proving your assertion incorrect, and indicating a massive reading comprehension deficit on your part, but we both know I've exposed you for being an activist troll who's refuted nothing whatsoever
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@Maksie0 No, they don't have a problem deciphering the differences between males and females like you do
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@mariec3733 Get back on your meds boy
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@mariec3733 !
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@manfromrome7710 Um, dude didn't ab0rt anything. His gf did though
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@manfromrome7710 No, because his gf terminated her children that she facilitated-- with no one to blame but herself... SHE chose, and he coulnd't have made her-- if she didn't want to.
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They're narcissistic men, practicing their misogyny while presenting themselves as women
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@markusbaker1161 They can't become women. It's just not possible. They can pretend and so can you-- but it doesn't make it so
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@markusbaker1161 Totally false
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@markusbaker1161 False information you're peddling. The law defines a woman as an adult, human, female. Science proves the differences between the sexes, and medicine hasn't made it possible for men to become women; it's only made it possible to alter one's appearance. Your cult is rejected
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There's nothing phobic about recognizing that you are not that which you claim to be-- it merely establishes that the observer is observant
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@FujishimaAkiko Just adding context to the conversation. It's the LGBTQ+LMNOP community which are highlighting their sex lives to the world, with their own labels, and I agree-- That obsession is weird
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If that's confusing to you, perhaps this topic is too far over your head
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@hannavanderwat5689 It's self explanatory. What do you think transition surgery is?
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@hannavanderwat5689 Quit conflating personality and sex/gender. They're not synonymous. Gender-- There are 2 male and female. That's it
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@hannavanderwat5689 Google is your friend
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@hannavanderwat5689 There are various surgeries from facial feminization to breast implants, to mastectomies, to full bottom surgery-- NONE of which transform a male to a female or a female to a male
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@hannavanderwat5689 Like I said, If that's confusing to you, perhaps this topic is too far over your head
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@hannavanderwat5689 There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born females. Now, you know. The failure to comprehend that is at the root of much confusion. Cope and seethe harder if you like, but it doesn't change the fact that those dudes aren't women of any kind
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How many kids have you raised to become happy, healthy, well-adjusted and productive members of society?
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@Maksie0 Not according the facts, which show that they self-terminate in rates significantly higher than the average even after altering their appearance.
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The entire ideological narrative is ins@ne
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@r.oluloly8415 Name a study anywhere that proves trans women are not actually men.
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@markusbaker1161 That's why it asinine. They're still men
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@markusbaker1161 Cite a medical study ANYWHERE, that proves trans-women aren't males. You can't, but you can pretend otherwise, but it changes nothing
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@aaralyn6710 Yes,you can. There's no such thing as trans women. That's just another word you use to describe confused men, who cosplay and LARP portraying the stereotype of a caricature of a female. There are only males and females, which is why using the cis prefix is entirely nonsensical. Now you know
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The problem is their insistence that we play along with their cosplay and LARPing, as it was based in reality, and it isn't
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This was delusional, confused Women who couldn't accept themselves and so-- altered their appearance to be like that which they can never be ie.-- Men. vs Men
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@conor.3875 I recommend that you log out then come back while logged out, and see what is there
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@conor.3875 Where'd you run off to? You didn't answer me-- Again. Don't be a coward... C'mon, it's 2 questions
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@conor.3875 You haven't answered what it is that the women who don't screw up using their birth control know and are doing-- that the others who clearly are getting it wrong, don't know or don't do or do correctly. All you mentioned was that birth control isn't 100% effective, yet fail to discern that the efficacy is the same for the women who use it effectively and as intended without repeated failures to have to account for. Like I said before, I think you're a paid agitator. You've failed to establish anything relevant, refute anything or justify terminating the innocent. You should quit while you're behind
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@earbunnyisgloomy9613 😁😶‍🌫
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🤡🌎
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@emilythomason1693 Who did?
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@emilythomason1693 The because you said so standard has been issued exactly ZERO credibility and is rejected. Surgery perform in utero have proven your claim to be totally incorrect. shocker
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@kidnamedfinger5019 The melting, triggered snowflakes reactions are indeed, TOTALLY H I L A R I O U S
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That dude is unhinged from reality.
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The incoherent narrative suggests that gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity. Both can't be true, showing the narrative is incoherent
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Not surprising that people who suffer severe anxiety, when faced with having to select the appropriate restrooms are clearly confused/troubled in a much more profound way than the average person
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Impregnating female inmates seems like it could be viewed as a problem
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@lornam1142 The self-deletion rates, even after transition, suggest otherwise-- for a large portion of those to whom you're referring, and the de-transitioner's regrets highlight some interesting counter arguments re: the efficacy of affirmation-based treatment protocols
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@lornam1142 Yes, it is and a cursory bit of research will validate what I said.
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@lornam1142 Gender dysphoria is a distressing condition. We have known for a long time that it is associated with other psychiatric disorders such as depression, and increased rate of self-delete attempts. The surgery and medical treatment is not perfect. It is thus not surprising that this group of patients will continue to suffer from stress-related psychiatric disorders. There might be lingering professional and relational problems. It is also possible (but unproven) that gender dysphoria is somehow etiologically related to depression. In that case, fixing the first with a cure would not automatically fix the latter.
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Yes, they were the reason for Noah's flood. The nephilim had corrupted all flesh, but for Noah's-- who was perfect in his generations
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@theneutralguy2317 Read Genesis 6:4-6
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@markusbaker1161 Unlike you, I'm well educated and well-read on a wide variety of topics that might surprise you. I can discuss Taoism, Buddhism, Islam, and Druids too. lol What now???
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If gender is fluid and disconnected from biology, who's to say there are men or women at all? The ideology is totally incoherent
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There would be even less viewership than the WNBA
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@urmomspussyhair XX, (Female), XY (Male). 2 sex/genders That's it... There are people. They are male or female, respectively. Segments of each present with various physical and psych disorders-- none of which invalidate the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid.
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@peeteee Agree.... They're still actually women, just now engaging in extreme LARP and cosplay
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Because it's not society's obligation to cater to the delusions of the vast minority. It's for those people to adapt to reality
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If men aren't suffering from gender dysphoria and they dress like, and present as women, they're just engaging in cosplay. Coincidentally, if they do suffer w/ gender dysphoria, their dissociative delusions don't transform them into women, either
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@Maksie0 No, I'm observant and discern reality from the subjective imaginations, identity or fantasy's of those obsessed with promoting an agenda. You're irrelevant
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@penny6688 Just stop!! They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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@molls127 Speaking of biology-- male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Just some contextual nuance
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That nonsensical narrative is so full of ignorance, it isn't even as deep as a baby spoon.
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Currently there are trans-women who have been incarcerated in women's only prisons who've impregnated actual female inmates, proving that the trans women are in fact-- Not
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I have NO problem realizing that there are people who have identity issues. I wish them well in their endeavors to deal with those issues; however-- recognizing that they are not that which they present themselves as, just makes me observant-- Not hateful I haven't been able to make sense of those who advocate affirmation care as a default protocol. The sad fact about the people who suffer with gender dysphoria, and those who inappropriately put themselves under the same umbrella-- who do not suffer with it, yet cosplay as though they do, have other underlying traumatic issues in play-- in addition and the su***de (both prior to and post surgery) is so much higher than the norm, and post surgery-- the numbers I've seen are astronomically high as well, showing unremarkable movement-- SO that being said, I just don't see how it's possible to see those rates and believe it's effective. Can ANYONE make it make sense? I can't
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@markusbaker1161 Google is your friend
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not distracted from the point that there are no studies anywhere proving that a trans-woman is not a biological male, and that those biological males have no business in women's private spaces. If you want to pretend otherwise, feel free
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@markusbaker1161 And? Why would they?
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@markusbaker1161 I don't think it's ok to devalue women's rights, but you do you
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@markusbaker1161 I wasn't quoting you. It is a summary of your endorsement that trans-women should be allowed in women's private spaces, under the guise that there are laws in place here and there which legalize it.
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@markusbaker1161 Knowing that my comments trigger you, because I'm not fooled into believing men are women due to a disguise, or altered terminology-- is just a wonderful source of entertainment. There are no studies anywhere proving that a trans-woman is not a biological male. If you want to pretend otherwise, feel free. If you want to maintain that something is justified because it's a law somewhere like in the middle east regarding gays and women-- then that's you
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@markusbaker1161 You've shown no evidence that men can become women, and you have given no reason why the men you call trans should be treated as though they're women
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@markusbaker1161 Evidence that trans-women are adult human females doesn't exist anywhere. Cite a study anywhere proving trans-women are not biological men. 🦗🦗🦗
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@markusbaker1161 No, you said it's already proven that they're women. Cite a study anywhere proving trans-women are not biological men
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@kebinyo I keep asking for a citation of any study anywhere which has proven that trans-women are not men-- to justify those men being granted access to women's private spaces, and zip, nada, nothing... So the resident troll is triggered
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@markusbaker1161 You're now claiming that 'trans-woman' aren't justified being granted access to women's private spaces BECAUSE there's no proof, evidence or valid medical studies showing that they aren't men?
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@markusbaker1161 They're men w/ psych issues-- that's a given. There appears to be a prerequisite to being considered a trans-woman, and that's being male. There is no science which shows that trans-women aren't males. The fact that people want to pretend otherwise doesn't change objective reality.
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@markusbaker1161 Cite the source of the "science" you keep referring to that proves trans-women are not males.
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Regarding what?
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@rocketknoxler6516 Maced and tazed the hairy dude in a dress screaming, "It's Ma'am? LOL
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The entire trans-activist, cult narrative is pure incoherent nonsense from start to finish
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@MajesticAngel-rq8uk Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are inappropriately confusing and conflating gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous and they are not, while simultaneously insisting that biological sex and gender are disconnected-- while failing to realize that a subjective identity doesn't alter anyone's biological reality. Lost souls
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The women brought it up, and the men responded
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@sessasessa123 Freedom to do what?
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The incoherent arguments made by these trans activist f00ls doesn't withstand the scrutiny of those who call out their idi0cy for what it is
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@raanyasingh374 Your lack of refutation of anything I've stated, shows YOU haven't done enough to justify your smug, ignorance
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The current self delete rate, being so much higher than it was in the past, prior to implementing affirmation-based treatment protocols, at a time when they're more accepted than ever before-- doesn't justify endorsing affirmation treatment as efficacious in anyway whatsoever
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In general, women tend to be emotionally reactive, and men tend to focus on actually solving problems, rather than talking about how they 'feel' about the problems needing to be solved
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Define woman
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LARPing
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Until you account for things like 'Believe all women' and 'Affirmative action', where you see the tilt in favor of women
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How, in the internet age, can you claim with a straight face that they don't realize there's an agenda at play? C'mon
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There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are
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The cult narrative and terminology is rejected. Gender-- there are 2, and they are fixed and permanent. No one in history has transitioned from male to female. They need to Cope Harder
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Show me someone who values life and advocates for the ability to terminate life, and I'll show you a hypocrite
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@TheLegendOfRandy You're still trying to be edgy huh? The baby doesn't insert itself into the mother. She facilitates it being there. Try to focus
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Their choice regarding their body is prior to conception occurring. After, come the consequences and they involve someone else's body; not just the mother's
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@mariec3733 Just because you are ok with that 3rd option doesn't justify it--- At All. The baby's body, which the woman facilitated by engaging in the one and only act which causes that which they wished to avoid-- isn't the woman's to terminate. That's the point
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@cherryfr0g907 A woman is not relieved of her culpability for risking and then facilitating her own unwanted pregnancy.
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@mariec3733 No, I'm not. Since you brought it up again, but here for the 1st time-- I'll address it again... The resulting pregnancy from a rape doesn't in and of itself, justify terminating the life of the innocent either-- unless the mother's life is in imminent peril
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@mariec3733 T R I G G E R E D 🤣🤣
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@cherryfr0g907 What circumstances are you referring to, where they would-- as you put it, "need an abortion"?
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@cherryfr0g907 There is no justifying the termination of the innocent in the womb, unless the mother's life is in imminent peril
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@mariec3733 Why do you have a problem with women, who's lives are in imminent peril-- due to pregnancy complications, having access to an abortion, to save their lives? Your claim that my argument has shifted, is an error. Your claim that I said abortion is never justified, is an error. I have no reason to believe if I explain it again that you'd comprehend it this time, so just rest assured... My position is the same as it ever was... They are-- For the Record, only justifiable if the mother's life is in imminent peril.
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His participation was essential to illustrate the personification of intellectual deficit so many apparently have, and illustrate the intellectual bankruptcy of the ideological narrative as a whole
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Cis/trans, as best as I can tell, are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are. Why should all of society be required to participate in the LARP and cosplay as a matter of law, counter to objective reality??? To suggest such a thing seems like the height of arrogance and narcissism
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@Maksie0 Being that all women are born female, how do you figure??
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Because men are the ones who fix their roofs, build their homes, build and service their cars, service their electricity, Internet, etc., and most importantly-- propagating the human species without them is not possible
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Misgendering? Hateful?? There's nothing hateful about recognizing that someone is not that which they claim to be. It's merely being observant of objective reality. Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@mariec3733 Cause and affect seem to elude your tiny brain's capacity to recognize the correlation. No one is not allowing promiscuous sex. They're just keeping the liability for the consequences where they belong-- with the promiscuous and their ability to avoid the avoidable, and choosing to engage the risk.
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@TheLegendOfRandy Forced? Against her will? What are you a mind reader now? It's only narcissistic sociopaths like you who think that way, never occurring to you that she may look at it like a blessing to their family.
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Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable That's why... Sovereign nations have borders
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Equality? People are 1 of 1... The only equality possible is 'equality under the law' , because people are not equal to one another. Each are unique
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There are only 2. They're inappropriately attempting to rename and recategorize the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence tomboys, effeminate males, or butch females), "Gender"-- and that's just incorrect
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@krasmasov6852 You should've attempted to clear it up
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There's no justification for terminating the lives of children, in the name of convenience
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@Maksie0 Your cult ideology and narratives-- are rejected by the majority of people. The only one's fooled by your disguises are you
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@conor.3875 Like Budweiser?
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@conor.3875 Losing $5B in market capitalization is doing okay to you? Are you using the new math or something? That's not doing okay... That's horrible.
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@Miss.girl09 How do you figure??? The 40% self delete rate, even after transition seems like the obvious answer, as to how and why affirmation-based treatment protocols are woefully insufficient-- BUT then, there's also Kenneth Zucker et Al 2021 (Watched trans women, diagnosed, and after 20 years-- almost 90% desisted) They're conflating gender and gender roles with personality traits as though they're synonymous-- and they just aren't
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@Tattleta1e Mars Davidson is a disingenuous, activist troll
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@krasmasov6852 What are you talking about? You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and neither has anyone else who's an activist or advocate-- such as yourself. Bottom line, I have no dog in this fight. It's you who and the extreme minority in the world of trans-activists, who wish that I-- and the rest of the world affirm and validate your ideology by using your preferred pronouns, etc.-- but you fail to persuade, so the answer is-- No. It looks like you're owning yourself, by continuing to fail to persuade. You're a disingenuous troll, who's only shown yourself to be playing the part of a triggered fool You've established nothing and have refuted even less. Then there are the women's prisons, which now house violent, trans-women offenders ie. Men, who have raped and impregnated several female inmates, proving that they are not that which they claim to be-- ie. women, and how they identify has ZERO impact on the truth that men cannot become women, and women cannot become men
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@tabithaeastman5081 Too bad no one on the panel thought to point out that if the trans-activist ideology were correct, it would show the gender pay gap to be a total myth. Their heads may have actually exploded
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@tabithaeastman5081 How do you know they're men, and not identifying as female attack helicopters?
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@kcmman9323 Women attempt it more often than men... Crazier, or less competent?
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@aidsensemen5950 Whoa-- to the feminists who go along to get along with this incoherent ideology, as in your near dystopian future, you'll be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will say 'They' are women
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@retarded1651 No, being emotionally reactive isn't the same, in general between males and females, and how males vs females process emotions, in general isn't the same either. Too many are conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous-- and they are not
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@markusbaker1161 Already did. It''s the 3rd reply. Are you going to answer mine?
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@markusbaker1161 You didn't articulate which rights you're talking about. Still waiting on your answer before I can make sure I'm addressing what you have in mind
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Where psychosis and ignorance collide, clarity is seldom found. Women cannot become men and vice versa.
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@KAY.BEE1 That single-digit IQ comment is so woefully ignorant
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That's r3t@rded
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Who isn't? That dude is unhinged from reality
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No
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Their emotional problems seem to ever lasting.
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ZERO logic in your statement. When it involves the lives of children it's a moral imperative of any civil society for all people to be involved. To quote another poster, ""Abortion doesn't affect you, why do you care" White's only signs wouldn't have affected me either, but that means I shouldn't care, ryt??"
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@cecesanchez8965 That is totally dimwitted. Just because I don't abuse animals doesn't mean I can't have and express an opinion about the abuse and those who do the abusing. As someone who raised my son from the time he was a newborn (now in his 30's happy, healthy, and successful)-- without his bio-mom in the picture-- I have an opinion and will express it freely, and you can cry about it harder if you don't like it. Too bad!! How many kids have you raised into adulthood?
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If the validity of one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. They're merely caricatures of what they wish they were.
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They're men, and aren't any kind of woman. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females-- those dudes weren't. Those dudes are imposters portraying themselves as something they aren't
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In that echo chamber society of mental illness... Yes. In reality, not as much
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What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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@Maksie0 There are only males and females among humans, and all mammals, and one cannot become the other. The problem you have with your narratives is objective reality shows you to be FOS
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Why, because they aren't fooled into thinking those men are women?
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@Kat-nv9cp The reasons that they aren't fooled suck-- makes THEM ridiculous?
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@tommoore2012 They also claimed masks worked to prevent the transmission of airborne viruses. They also claimed these inoculations are vaccines and they're not. They also, having not isolated the C19 virus-- claimed to identify variants (Not possible according to Science) They also claimed the vaxx would reduce hospitalizations and deaths and it seems only vaxxed people are having major problems. Those frauds renamed the flu, evidenced by the flu numbers dropping to nothing
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@Erik-fn7kj Using neutral pronouns isn't incorrect, but you play the part a moronic clown who argues for the sake of argument-- and knows that
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@alia8474 Your delusional sense of self, creates no obligation on the rest of the world to recognize you as you wish you were perceived, or to not see your disguise for what it is... An attempt to appear as something you are not and can never be.
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@mariec3733 You Still have no winning argument, which justifies terminating the innocent
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@stinkygremlin267 Blah, blah, blah... Transformers are ridiculous. Woe to the feminists who embrace this incoherent ideology and it's narratives, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men who will claim they're women... and they don't even see it coming. 😱😭😰😨🥺😳😲😯🤯
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It's Great! He exposes the nonsense that is the trans ideological narrative and agenda
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@Maksie0 Get a helmet. Rejection--- Get used to it
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@cielmichaelis8426 You haven't made a point. You failed to elaborate what you imagined in your initial comment or in the one I'm replying to now. What gives?
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@mariec3733 You've refuted nothing whatsoever. What's up with that?
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@DaBeastBeats No, Just an observation. The giving of one's opinion or observation is, "literally the same as genocide" huh? How is that?
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@DaBeastBeats Got it... Have a nice day. ✌
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@milk5002 Notice: I did qualify it, when I wrote 'mostly'-- BUT the LOWEST literacy rate in the country is New Mexico, which is a Blue state. Just sayin...
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@Maksie0 Well, you certainly haven't proven your capacity to recognize the reality that men can't become women.
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@Milo-nr9kc They're not trans anything. Same as they ever were, and a costume change and plastic surgery doesn't change that either. They're merely caricatures of what they wished they could be.
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When it involves the lives of children it's a moral imperative of any civil society for people to be involved. To quote another poster, ""Abortion doesn't affect you, why do you care" White's only signs wouldn't have affected me either, but that means I shouldn't care, ryt??"
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@ssmith3620 I think of it like, inviting someone into your home, and choosing to terminate their life, prior to the end of their stay. Life is valuable and worth living. There's no justification for terminating the innocent in the womb,barring the mother's life being in imminent peril. I'm not under the impression that there's a place for a meeting of the minds between those who value life, and those who clearly do not-- evidenced by their advocacy of terminating the innocent, in the name of convenience
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Huh... These activists who are hosting this site are deleting the scientific citations which disprove their incoherent ideology. Because they're interested in truth? I don't think so
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@retiredreligion Their personal preferences regarding their preferred pronouns as it refers to their personal identity has nothing to do with me, and isn't a matter of respect as far as I'm concerned.
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@Maksie0 Translation = trans wishes are to be respected , and women who object, too bad so sad. Self-centered narcissism at play
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@dakotareib What was the point of your comment??
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@dakotareib There are tons of stories of women who live to regret having one. My explanation as to why it is that they are "is not always this misconstrued traumatic experience people make it out to be" is, there are sociopaths out there who aren't affected by such things. Hope that helps you
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@dakotareib It is for the terminated offspring. Did that really not occur to you? wow
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@dakotareib You wrote, "fetus don’t have the cognitive ability to feel or voluntarily respond to pain until 28 weeks, long after abortions are illegal" SO!!! Neither do coma patients, BUT-- Still human. Still innocent, Still YOUR fault for facilitating their creation. You sure seem to be doing some major intellectual gymnastics to attempt to justify terminating the innocent in the womb.
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@dakotareib Interesting that you keep replying and when I respond-- you delete your comment. WEAK and Pathetic
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@dakotareib You can try to spin it however you like, but the facts don't substantiate your narrative in the vast vast vast majority of cases. There is No legislation ANYWHERE that prevents life saving measures for expecting mother's who's lives are in peril. It's a red herring argument, you're making. It's being used as a means to act like feral animals without consideration for consequences to anyone but themselves. It's the height of narcissism.
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@dakotareib Evidence? No... NONE. You're reaching and going through some major intellectual gymnastics to justify the termination of the unborn in the womb, using the marginal case to attempt to justify the other 99+%.
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@dakotareib The only thing that's going to lower the number of unwanted pregnancy's are women choosing to stop facilitating their risk and modifying their own behavior. It's not rocket science
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@dakotareib Also-- You sound like you're advocating eugenics, as the solution to facing adversity-- so just terminate them. WOW There's another solution... Avoiding the totally avoidable and mitigating your risk. It's a matter of character, and making smart choices.
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@dakotareib You're whinging now. A miscarriage isn't an ab0rti0n. Try to focus. You have been wrong about many of your claims. The 'Because you said so' standard has been issued exactly ZERO credibility. Look, I'm not under the impression that there's a place for a meeting of the minds between those who value life, and those-- like you who categorize life as disposable, as you advocate for the means to terminate the innocent in the womb. Bottom Line, You fail to justify terminating the innocent in the womb. The only situation is when the mother's life is in imminent peril. Deal with it. Terminating the lives of the innocent is wrong.
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@dakotareib Save it dear. I'm retired, and my son is 32 yo. I raised him as a single father, without his bio-mom in the picture. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual 'Virtue' in any of your unhinged whinging. There's nothing Righteous, Virtuous, nor Nobel in advocating for the termination of the innocent.
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I observe that there are women who've figured out how to plan their family's effectively and utilize their preventative birth control effectively, and contrast them against those who've clearly NOT figured it out, and instead-- keep getting it wrong. Don't tell me that birth control isn't 100% effective, because that seems to only affect one group-- and it isn't the group that values the lives of their children. What do you think they know that eludes the others???
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@dakotareib And yet-- the group that doesn't seem to have issues with it aren't the one's having more than one ab0rti0n-- because they didn't utilize their birth control effectively or effectively plan the timing of their family expansion. What do you think they know that eludes so many?
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@dakotareib It's normal for smart people to mitigate their risks effectively. There's no cure for stoopid, but there are consequences. That's why you don't see doctors having multiple pregnancy's from multiple partners resulting in unwanted pregnancy's And even morons know that they're risking pregnancy, when they facilitate it by indulging in the one and only act which causes their self-inflicted dilemmas of unwanted pregnancy. Let's not pretend they don't know
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@dakotareib LOL... Well, you've refuted nothing whatsoever, and you've failed to justify terminating the innocent in the womb, but for when the mother's life is in imminent peril-- and that's a non-starter, since no one advocates otherwise. You have NO Idea what my educational background is, nor what my professional experience is but like I said... I'm not under the impression that those who value life will find a place for a meeting of the minds, with those like you-- who don't, and categorize the lives of the innocent as disposable, in the name of convenience. You're going to need to do much better
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What's trans? Altering your appearance doesn't change your sex/gender. Same sex/gender prior to altering your appearance as you are after altering your appearance.
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@gummynoodles9036 Evidence that they're more in danger than women who have men in their private spaces?? 🦗🦗🦗
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Woman= An adult, human, female
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@clovis- Best of luck with that. The rate of s-cide among that community is evidence that your anecdotal evidence is skewed a LOT
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How many? Who? RINO's or conservatives??
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@thirstquenched295 Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally because of a psych disorder or for attention, or Both. That you can't wrap your head around that is a YOU problem. Just Cope Harder
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@heathermcalpine802 Well, thank you. 💓I'm just trying to speak truth to this incoherent nonsense. Woe, to the feminists who buy into this madness, as in their near dystopian future-- they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will say they're women-- and they don't even see it coming. I find it Amazing
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You think women need help, feeling like women? That seems odd. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@markusbaker1161 I'm actually comparing them to women, which they are not.
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@markusbaker1161 No, I'm comparing them to the women they're misappropriating, by being caricatures of that which they are not and can never be-- when they misgender themselves by saying trans women are women. Nope, they are not
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@markusbaker1161 Even women with defects are still women. That said, Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not an activist, so-- So?
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@markusbaker1161 Then what are you whining about?
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@markusbaker1161 2 sexes/genders-- Male and Female, and they're permanent. That's it. A male suffering w/ gender dysphoria doesn't change him into a woman, because of his subjective identity-- he's still a male. A male who does not suffer w/ gender dysphoria and alters his appearance to look like a woman is still a male. Your argument is incoherent
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@markusbaker1161 Nope, Only 2. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Personality traits, and temperament are not synonymous with gender. Intersex isn't another sex/gender in the binary. It's an extremely rare biological disorder and they only ever present with male or female genitalia, none with both sex organs fully functional.
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@queer_paradox I'm not the one who's trying to indoctrinate children. How do you figure? Re: projecting, Irony, on your part? Sure looks like it from here
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@krasmasov6852 Here, I fixed it for you: It's indoctrination to tell children that men can become women and women can become men
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The reason for birth control is because the natural and expected consequential result of sex, is pregnancy-- and women know that birth control isn't always successful So-- this is the risk they 'CHOOSE' and 'Consent to'-- when indulging anyway
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@Maksie0 That's because you're a moron. No one is forcing anyone to risk pregnancy. If you do, you reap what you sow. It's not a mystery how pregnancy occurs. You want to avoid it-- avoid it. If you risk it, YOU take the risk and own the consequences.
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@mariec3733 Have you noticed no one's bothered to answer? What risks do men take regarding women getting pregnant? Men aren't the one's who risk their body's getting pregnant, and we are talking about women's unwanted pregnancies-- Not men's unwanted pregnancies. Try to focus on something relevant for a change. When a woman gets pregnant 'unwantedly', with the ONLY exception being rape (1% of abortion cases)-- obviously; how is it not her own damned fault? She knew she was risking it
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Fke count. Most are generated from people commenting multiple times
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@conor.3875 Fact vs fiction
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@TheLegendOfRandy Every pro-abortion argument mirrors 19th century pro-slavery arguments: 1. Argument from ownership: “This slave/baby is my property/body. You can't tell me what to do with it.” 2. Argument from privacy: "No one is forcing you to have slaves/abortions. Mind your own business." 3. Argument from superseding rights: “My property/body autonomy rights come before the rights of a slave/fetus.” 4. Argument from inevitability: “Slavery/abortion has been around for thousands of years, it’s never going away. We might as well have a safe and legal system in place for it.” 5. Argument from pseudoscience: “Slaves/fetuses aren’t really people. They aren’t like us. Therefore we are human and they are not.” 6. Argument from socioeconomics: “If slavery/abortion ends, the slaves/babies will end up on the street without jobs.” 7. Argument from the courts: “Slavery/abortion was vindicated by the Supreme Court. It’s been decided. There’s no point in arguing it. It's settled law." 8. Argument from faux-compassion: “Slavery/abortion is in the best interest of Africans/babies. The world can be a cruel place. It’s best to protect them from it by keeping them enslaved/aborting them.” 9. Argument from the assumed hypocrisy of the other side: "You say you want to end slavery/abortion, but you don't want to live with freed slaves/adopt unwanted babies yourself.” -Matt Walsh 🤔
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@TheLegendOfRandy Even in private you're not within your rights to terminate the lives of the innocent. Wake Up
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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TOO Many, sadly... Too many
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They say gender identity and sex are separate, but haven't been able to justify encroaching on spaces designated segregated based on sex, as an entitlement. Not even close They also haven't come close yet, to being able to justify the expectation that just because they present and identify in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must treat them as though they're the opposite sex. It's absurd. No one has justified putting up with it
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@katherinetanks632 They're males, not females. When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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@katherinetanks632 Hmmm.... That's wrong. Yes, they are fixed and permanent. Pills etc... not withstanding scrutiny. Like I said, you can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek and prescribe 'pills' etc., and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon-- and if you think it does-- you're delusional. (Psych disorder) Still XX, XY, Birth defect or psych disorder-- That's it. Take your pick. Regardless of how elaborate the measures taken are to disguise reality may be, or how sincerely one believes their delusions to be representative of objective reality-- Still XX, XY, Birth Defect or Psych Disorder.
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@katherinetanks632 And YOU don't speak for all trans people. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total lack of any actual virtue in any of your unhinged whinging, then add to that your inability to discern the difference between males and females-- your credibility on this matter = ZERO.
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@anabelkay Elaborate?
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TR I G G E R E D-- Recognizing that someone isn't the sex which they claim to be, doesn't invalidate the person. If someone rests the entire value of their existence based on their appearance, that's pathetic
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"It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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*He... That dude has ZERO frame of reference to draw from to give him the slightest clue about a 1st hand woman's perspective.
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Yes. They aren't trans anything whatsoever. All they've done is alter their appearance, by mutilating their normal biological functionality in the process. They're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do
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@ItsSchwifty Not a fan of progressivism nor socialism. "Socialism has a history of failure so blatant, that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it".-- T. Sowell
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@becky14 There are literally MILLIONS of women who don't have problems w/ their family planning or their birth control products and methods-- What do you think They know, that eludes so many others who just can't seem to figure it out-- evidenced by women having more than 1 ab0rti0n? The choice/decision to risk your own totally avoidable unwanted pregnancy, when you facilitate it by engaging in the 1 and only act which actually causes your dilemma-- is fully in tact. Make better choices, because after-- come the consequences.
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@becky14 Men aren't the ones risking themselves getting pregnant, now are they? Women are the gatekeepers of their chastity, Not men
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@becky14 Wrong... Of course it takes two for a pregnancy to occur, however; women are the gatekeepers of their own body's, and when they facilitate their own unwanted pregnancy, by engaging in the one and only act which causes their self-inflicted dilemma-- they're without excuse and have no one to blame but themselves.
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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That's a lot of mental gymnastics. Bottom line, men dressed as women or not-- present a greater threat to women, than they do to men so, why are those men's safety a higher priority than the women who's safety is more at risk???
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@mariec3733 "Socialism in general, has a history of failure so blatant-- that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it".-- T. Sowell
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@mariec3733 It's an observation that illustrates your self-centered, self-entitlement mentality, so I thought it was apropos.
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@mariec3733 You appear to now believe that life has value. Why not for the innocent in the womb?
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Well, you don't have to be a Proctologist to recognize an @-hole when you see one, and you don't need a degree in biology to know a male or a female when you see one. Why would you care if someone is offended that you are observant of reality?
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@hrhr7762 How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@Cantooni Stop gaslighting. The self-delete rates even after transition, just don't justify mutilating young people
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BOTH are males presenting as that which they can never be... ie. Women
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Well, half the panel were women
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@echoticz9225 The women who were on the panel that screwed up their hormones unnaturally, to appear more like that which they can never be; Men. Those women
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Regardless of religious belief, you are a part of God's plan
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@markusbaker1161 For someone who says they recognize transgender rights, you sure don't seem to be willing or able to articulate how they differ from the natural rights of all other males and females, or how or why they should be considered over and above the rights of the women who's spaces they're invading. Oh well... You do you
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@markusbaker1161 If there isn't, the differentiation you're making is entirely redundant and absurd
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@markusbaker1161 Black's law dictionary defines a woman as an adult, human, female. They're valid people. What are you talking about? The desire to be recognized as a construct? I recognize those men who you refer to as trans women as men portraying themselves as a social construct
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@markusbaker1161 ya ya ya I get what you're saying now. Those men wish to be seen as social constructs. They already are seen as men portraying themselves as a construct
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@markusbaker1161 the ability to decipher objective reality from fantasy role play, science fact from science-fiction or pseudo-science, men from women, functional from dysfunctional, logical from illogical. You perceive trans women as women, even though they're men-- and you want everyone else to as well, or at least to pretend to. Skeptical guy says, that ain't gonna happen
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@markusbaker1161 You're the one that insists on calling men trans women, and saying trans women are women. It doesn't matter That doesn't invalidate the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species being male and female, now does it? Trans women are a social construct played by men, who believe that altering their appearance will hide that they are men. If you want to play along, go for it. It's cosplay and LARPing gone unchecked and unrestrained, imo
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@markusbaker1161 The women who are being called cis by trans women against their will and having their privacy encroached on against their will believe their considerations matter too, might wonder why they don't get that same consideration
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@markusbaker1161 There's a bunch of them here in the comment section protesting the cis terminology and having their private spaces like their locker rooms, rest rooms, dressing rooms, sports teams and prisons being granted access to those men-- noting it's the height of misogyny.
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@markusbaker1161 Ignoring the women the way you do will however change votes and that changes laws
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@markusbaker1161 No, I'm reading their comments-- speaking for themselves, objecting. You're pretending they aren't
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@markusbaker1161 It is proof that women are speaking up against this madness-- which is the point you fail to acknowledge. There are none so blind as those, who would not see
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@markusbaker1161 It's sufficient to make the point. That you don't get it is a You problem. Your understanding isn't required. I can't believe the feminists aren't absolutely furious about this. Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology as in their near future-- they'll be oppressed by men like Blossom who claim they're women.
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@markusbaker1161 I don't care. You've proven to merely be an agitator
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@markusbaker1161 One doesn't need to be a doctor to read the stats of the studies
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@markusbaker1161 I know I am correct. If gender is disconnected from biology (It is not), granting males access to female's private spaces is totally unjustified on that basis alone. Make it make sense
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The trans-activist ideology is anti-woman. To the feminists who go along to get along with this incoherent ideology-- Best of Luck, in your not too far off dystopian future, where you'll be oppressed by tyrannical men who now will say, they're women too. How's that for the 'NEW' brand of male privilege? How would male privilege exist, if gender was fluid-- and disconnected from biology? Answer: It wouldn't
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@jayceallen6530 Some hairy dude in a dress screaming, "It's MA'AM"-- while insisting that they're a woman doesn't make it so. Similarly, having a plastic surgeon change your appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek, doesn't actually make you a Klingon. Same is true regarding gender transition surgery. Still, XX or XY
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@justsomerandomname2067 Evidence?? Some men are more privileged than other men. As a matter of fact, most Billionaires are men-- but they are a VERY VERY VERY small minority number of men, by comparison to the rest. Factor that into your analysis
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@markusbaker1161 No, I'm not. Cite any scientific source that proves trans women are not men. You can't. It just doesn't exist. Feel free to pretend otherwise, but it's cosplay
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@markusbaker1161 "Are valid"?? They are people. Those you refer to as trans women, are males.
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@markusbaker1161 No, they're males. Their sex/gender/biology is exactly the same prior to altering their appearance, as it is after they do. Still males You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek if you wish, prescribe hormones, wardrobe and makeup consultants and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon, and if you think it does, you're insane.
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@markusbaker1161 They want to be called trans women so they can pretend they're not men.
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@markusbaker1161 Utopia... and you??
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@markusbaker1161 If you want to play along with the transgender crowd, nothing is stopping you. You do you
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@markusbaker1161 Look in the mirror... Your preferred speech by others, that shows you’re so full of yourself that you think all other people must/should/need to-- participate in your cosplay/LARPing and cult terminology to make you feel alright, as if your blessing is worth something to the rest of the world. :face-turquoise-covering-eyes: Total narcissism from you
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@markusbaker1161 :text-green-game-over:
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, it has. I won before it started. If you want to pretend those dudes are women, by calling them trans women-- go for it. Doesn't change reality If you want to acknowledge they're dudes presenting as women, and choose to refer to them as trans women, and date them-- go for it. There's no stigma to being gay. 😁
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@markusbaker1161 Only males and females. All that other stuff stuff is a social construct, that doesn't alter biological objective reality, remember I won before you started, because I'm correct.
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@markusbaker1161 Your argument is fatally flawed, as is your logic. You just said it. Trans feelings aren't facts. Therefore the people who exist are male or female, not trans ANYTHING. Their feelings aren't facts invalidating the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species. :person-turqouise-waving:
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@Maksie0 Indeed, You are. I gotta say, I'm surprised you admit it
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What? Have you not read that which is considered abominations unto the Lord? Have you not heard of Babylon, Sodom & Gomorrah, the Flood of Noah and the reason being all flesh becoming corrupt.
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@yendyssss7945 Intentional or not, they do mock women, and displace them in sports, scholarships, restrooms, dressing rooms, showers,locker rooms, etc., by portraying themselves as caricatures of a women. Woe, to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian futures-- they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will say they're women
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Pronouns are objective, you don't get to choose the one's others utilize to describe you vs Your sense of self or how you'd prefer to be perceived. Also, you wouldn't use them when speaking to someone... You'd use them when speaking about someone, to another. The singular they emerged by the 14th century, about a century after the plural they. It has been commonly employed in everyday English ever since and has gained currency in official contexts. The fact is they are not the sex which they claim to identify as, so using their preferred pronoun would've been incorrect grammar
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And they didn't rule over men. They ruled over children, who when they came of age-- that fell to men to train them on their continuing education
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No-- Just , No.
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@aaralyn6710 It's their job to adapt to the world. It isn't the worlds obligation to accommodate them. Besides that doesn't solve the problem of women with scholarships being displaced, or address women's prisons
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To ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where as a feminist you'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are now women.
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The reading levels and proficiency in math and science in California, are atrocious at every level-- including that of HS graduates. Not a model of excellence, that much is certain
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@Maksie0 That's the sound of women and men rejecting your incoherent ideological narrative. You better get used to it
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@markusbaker1161 Only with the protection of the anonymity of the internet, lest you lose your head
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@markusbaker1161 The only ones fooled into thinking your talking points have merit, is you and yours-- the vast vast minority-- that you are
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@markusbaker1161 People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and prior. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender.
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@markusbaker1161 Don't have to be a doctor to read and comprehend the medical literature.
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Somewhat Agree?? They're not Trans ANYTHING. They're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after-- which means they're still men
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The main issue is that people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are in objective reality/Fact, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Thoughts???
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What evidence?
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It doesn't address the fact that restrooms are implemented based on biology not some subjective confusion about what a woman is... Besides that it, doesn't address sports teams, sports, scholarships, locker rooms, showers, changing rooms or prisons. Implementing your restroom solution in places like stadiums, convention centers etc... doesn't seem doable
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That dude is unhinged
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@markusbaker1161 You can hear me? That's odd
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The stats show that raising kids in a conservative household results in well-balanced, happy, successful, and self-disciplined individuals. Cope Harder. What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That you/they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's your/their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you/they wished they were.
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@amy-72-c3r The problem with the trans-activist ideological narrative is, their arguments just don't withstand scrutiny, because life is based in reality, and the trans imagination just doesn't override people's capacity for discernment
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The delusional women pretending to be men, and getting upset at not being recognized for their preferred disguise vs who and what they actually are, is what's funny to me
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Just stop it. That dude is unhinged from reality. All women are born female, and that dude wasn't and isn't any kind of woman
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Because they're women. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender as they were prior to altering their appearances, to look like something else
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@mariec7352 Stop projecting
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@mariec7352 Yes you are
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Rick Marty I don't think Marie's genital warts are from worrying. I could be wrong... ;)
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@rips1231 They suffer high anxiety when faced with having to select the appropriate restroom, while simultaneously whinging about a white, male-dominated patriarchy at the root of a gender pay gap, while insisting that gender is fluid-- because they're not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier.
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@patrickmason7466 Yes, people do what?
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That they are incarcerated to prisons for committing crimes, seems to be out of focus, as it relates to them painting their own targets on their backs, no?.
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They are not disconnected. That's not too hard to understand either. Quit conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament (neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), with gender.
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If male privilege existed those 4 woman would not have it because whether you like it or not, they are women. Also, that dude who said they are taken more seriously... No they're taken less seriously and are a laughing stock pretending to be something they're not
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Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent anti-woman ideology, as in their near future they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim they're women-- and the feminists don't even see it coming. smh
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Because that doesn't alleviate dressing rooms, changing rooms, locker rooms, sports teams, scholarships or prisons.
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Both are imposters
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@msmithena No much of an argument there.
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@mariec3733 I recommend being relevant.
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@msmithena The prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. Your inability to process that indicates you're kinda slow. You only need to be able to read the studies and the DSM definitions that explains them; Until about 5 seconds ago when the hacks you rely on changed the classifications. The only ones fooled are you and yours-- which are the vast vast minority.
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@charcoalgea2863 Ooh, look at you trying to be edgy. Retired, happily married, great kid (Now in his 30's), financially independent, and those dudes pretending to be that which they are not, will never know what it feels like to be women either
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@markusbaker1161 You spend all that time trying to convince others that men are women and women are men. That's wrong
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@markusbaker1161 Men and women exist in objective reality-- and men or women altering their appearance doesn't change that status, regardless of how much you try to convince yourself and others that it makes a difference-- it doesn't
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@markusbaker1161 Mental disorders of a wide variety, at play there. Still men or women regardless of their attempt to identify as other than what they are
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@markusbaker1161 What are you, an anarchist? People with an identity crisis are real. People with schizophrenia, anti-social personality disorders and the like are real too, BUT-- their delusions aren't real. Now you know. People that identify as 'other than' what they are biologically-- are disconnected from reality. Accept that as obviously true or don't, which puts you in the extreme minority of the world population.
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@markusbaker1161 There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women, illustrating that your narrative is a totally bogus faith-based belief-- with ZERO evidence to support your claim that trans women are women. Checkmate / You lost
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@markusbaker1161 Until you prove that men can become women, your entire narrative remains bogus.
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@markusbaker1161 Next, no doubt you'll want proof that schizophrenia, and the like, are mental illness too. Your opinion is rejected. You fail to persuade. The world doesn't owe you anything. Cope or don't... You don't matter
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It's H I L A R I O U S-- watching the snowflakes cringe and melt
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@thankyouforbeingafriend9632 Women (ALL of them) are born female, which make cis-- totally irrelevant and useless. Female and male are biological categories. Now you know. Biological female is redundant at best
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If the roles were reversed the unplanned pregnancy rate would drop to near zero, because guys wouldn't risk it until they were prepared to be a parent
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@whitewhitewhite2446 You need to meet a better class of women
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Too similar
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@markusbaker1161 You wouldn't understand
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@markusbaker1161 I'm of course talking about the mainstream trans-activist narrative, not yours per se.
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@markusbaker1161 The narrative that trans women ARE women. They are not.
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@markusbaker1161 Name calling? Do Better. Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 Then, calling a male impersonating a female a him, shouldn't be considered an insult. Is that what you're suggesting?
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@sodiumso6015 When a woman is pregnant, she can be pregnant with nothing but a human baby (In the various stages of human development, but human nonetheless).
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@sodiumso6015 Ok... You're the one who said you agreed with the OP's, now definitively debunked claim... And are now saying you know that what I wrote which debunked it is correct; making my impression of you as someone who is merely arguing for argument's sake seem to be pretty on target. Be better
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@mariec3733 More confirmation...
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That doesn't escape the fact that there are lots of poor people who have families, and doesn't factor in wage mobility of people to move between economic strata
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@mariec3733 That you can't, or don't comprehend how my comment relates to the topic is your problem. Thanks for sharing
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@mariec3733 Again-- Your failure to comprehend the connection is sad and telling, but not surprising. Your perceptions couldn't really be any less relevant, as I see it. How are women not the responsible party for achieving their avoidable unwanted pregnancy, when choosing to engage in the one and only act that actually causes it-- risking their body's getting pregnant?-- You're desperately trying to avoid their culpability and btw--failing miserably at refuting the truth, regarding the culpability of women for their own avoidable dilemmas.
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@lairibaker1759 I don't accept that women should be able to have abortions, but for the mother's health in imminent peril-- regardless of race or economic status.
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@mariec3733 Correct, they're not. Your comment shows a lack of imagination, that is truly hilarious to me. 🤣
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@lairibaker1759 I don't buy it. Check out some Thomas Sowell videos for a deeper understanding and factual analysis than the one you just illustrated
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@mariec3733 What?
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@mariec3733 You've established yourself as nothing more than an agitator and you've chosen to present as a caricature of idiocy, and at this point-- it's clear that dismissing you and your opinions is entirely justified. Your comprehension capacity deficit is not something that shows any likely signs of improvement, so I am not persuaded that the explanation will help clarify anything for you. I have enjoyed using your nonsense as a catalyst to respond with my thoughts-- so that others who are interested in another perspective have something else to consider.
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@mariec3733 You're the one who fails to respond with anything substantive. ALL of my comments, answering all of your questions are clearly visible, and numbered in my other thread, and your deception and reluctance to face them-- is obvious. I appreciate the opportunity to use your troll routine presents-- to comment and counter your arguments, for others who may reading and be interested in another perspective.
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@mariec3733 I'm sad to say, there's not much I can do about your double-digit IQ capacity for critical thinking, analysis or reaching intelligent conclusions. Best of luck with that
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@mariec3733 Well, No-- You're not. They're ALL still visible
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@mariec3733 I can't do anything about your comprehension capacity or lack thereof
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@mariec3733 Try opening your eyes. They're all there
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@mariec3733 Ya-- That's not a refutation, nor does it establish why women should have the option to terminate their offspring in the womb. You've failed to make your case... Congratulations
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@melarie205 The choice to terminate your own offspring is no less than ghoulish and it is free from virtue, righteousness, nobility and morality
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@dr00g35 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively and sex is not disconnected from gender. They're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after. They're not 'trans' anything
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@markusbaker1161 Those who go around looking for trouble are often shocked, when they find it-- and trouble ends up dealing with them by consuming them
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@markusbaker1161 No. It must be the voices in your head. Consult your physician. I have been writing, not speaking. No worries, you've already displayed an inability to discern nuance or fact from fiction, so not a shocker. You just can't seem to stop yourself from trying to get more attention from me. Looks like I triggered an overload due to cognitive dissonance on your part, and it activated an impulse control problem for you. Your incessant drive toward getting negative attention is indicative of other anti-social personality disorders that you may want to have a professional consult you on.
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@markusbaker1161 If you're hearing voices, they aren't mine
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@markusbaker1161 "talking"?
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not talking at all
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@markusbaker1161 This is sad that we live in a world where grown adult men, who identify with stereotypical feminine traits, believe that they are women.
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@markusbaker1161 Be sad... Life's not fair
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That dude is unhinged from reality
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Why would any ever consider doing that?
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Then-- Better still, avoid pregnancy all together and get your tubes tied
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Wow... That comment seems to be designed to illustrate that your shoe size dwarfs your IQ, as it's only purpose seems to be a cry for attention. Do Better
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Any evidence to support your claimed 98% stat? How do you figure that's hypocrisy, if someone who can't have kids is pro-life?
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If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@markusbaker1161 go read the studies I provided
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@markusbaker1161 Have your mom help you figure out how to navigate to the address I already gave you, and then search the title I suggested
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@markusbaker1161 Quit capping! I told you to search for sui**dality among transgender youth
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@markusbaker1161 Try Google the term Now you want exact specifics, but can't cite the specific law you were referring to re: trans rights? Another example of the TOTAL lack of integrity, on your part-- Again. sigh... Just read just the abstract. See if you learn anything. It is one of many, that I think is worth reading. Start there... and continue at your own pace.
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@markusbaker1161 There is no transgender rights law in the USA that I'm aware of. There are already anti-discrimination laws, laws against assault, housing, employment, education, and health care for everyone. Are you suggesting that so-called 'trans' people are somehow exempt for any of them? Make it make sense
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@markusbaker1161 In my comment it clearly states what you're refusing to comprehend. Those already exist, and trans has nothing to do with any of it. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and prior. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Expecting rational communication and comprehension from confused and conflicted people isn't in itself rational.
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@markusbaker1161 You're the one who is misinformed, and have bought into the pseudo-science, science fiction narrative pushed by hacks
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@markusbaker1161 Uh huh... Cis/Trans come from Latin are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. The trans effect is an ancient but venerable observation. First noted by Chernyaev-- in 1926, the trans effect and its conceptual siblings (the trans influence, cis influence, and cis effect) are easy enough to comprehend-- YOU being the clear exception. That is, it’s simple enough to know what they are.
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The point is it's not the default setting. Having and showing emotions isn't the point. Being overly-emotionally reactive is... It's amazing that those whinging away don't comprehend self-control vs wearing one's emotions on their sleeve for all to see at all times
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@eveliinahannele What do you believe I've written to the contrary?
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@mariec3733 You did? ok... 🤣
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@freedommatters7677 Comprehension deficit again?
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How do you figure, with The United Nations estimates the number of men to approximately 3,776,294,273 while women are estimated to be approximately 3,710,295,643. Approximately, 107 boys are born for every 100 girls born?
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@PhylumVertebrae "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@varyolla435 What evidence are you relying on which shows otherwise??
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@chii__9999 Define "Woman"
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@smiley4995 Trans-activists aren't interested in truth, only in driving their incoherent ideology
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@nik4456 I would've loved it if someone pointed out that if the trans-activist ideology were correct, it would prove the gender pay gap a total myth. Watching their heads explode would have been most entertaining
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Too many people are inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament (neither of which are gender exclusive-- ex. effeminate males, butch females, or tomboys) as gender
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@Maksie0 Simple minded, anyway. Who told you that, and why do you believe you're correct, being that all women are born female?
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@Maksie0 Never... If we truly value human life then we would never justify abortion, in circumstances where the mother's life isn't at risk. Period. Its not a debate
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@TheLegendOfRandy Considering that the population total of the world is ever increasing, I'd say it's not a massive problem regarding the level of difficulty conceiving, add to that the number of abortion cases and it appears that it's not as difficult as you've been lead to believe
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@mariec7352 Prove it
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@mariec7352 You keep making false claims about what I've written, and you incorrectly quote me and credit me with things I've never written. You fail to cite any thread with the name of the thread poster and/or refer to how long ago I supposedly wrote what you allege. Unborn children deserve bodily autonomy, just like any other human being, and you seem to disagree. The mother's life is not more important than the life she created, in my opinion. We definitely disagree.
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@mariec3733 You said, not all lives are valuable since they're not making life "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of". Therefore, you believe that not all women's lives are valuable. Not all women would or should then necessarily be entitled to bodily autonomy considerations, since they're (According to you not valuable) not making the baby's life (You know-- the one they facilitated when they chose to risk pregnancy) "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of" Your philosophy seems incoherent
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@UCqoqINyRUvmnsMqJGXtMEXw Feel Free to stop commenting to me
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@mariec3733 Yes, that's exactly what you said. When asked by HK 4lyfe if you believe all life is valuable -- you said, "All human life? Definitely not. Lol. Have you seen the world lately? I think it's only valuable if we make it just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of than we do to simply enforce more births, which we do not." No worries. I don't expect you to admit to the truth, as you've lied about things I've said many many times, and the comments are all there to validate what I'm saying. I mean it isn't as if you haven't proven that you argue and agitate at every opportunity for sport, while disingenuously engaging in what I'd compare to a phone scammer's ethics, with a politician's evasiveness, failing to ever directly answer a question honestly. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Just pointing out the incoherent things you've said-- and you are desperate to avoid it-- The truth is not subject to your admission, nor your denial. You writing that not all lives are valuable, qualifying-- "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of" (in other words) unless they are sufficiently charitable to a level of your satisfaction, is patently absurd and the amount of ego behind that is unreal. Your narcissism is off-the-hook.
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@TheLegendOfRandy It's really not complicated. I'm focused on women creating their own dilemmas, then terminating their baby's for it. The case numbers of women having abortions and many more than 2, seem to indicate it isn't as difficult as you believe
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@TheLegendOfRandy Not at all. I'm not in charge of the nature of the universe, or the choices people make regarding the risks they're willing to take. The notion that men and women are the same or have the same risk factors and considerations is just naive.
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@TheLegendOfRandy Um... ok... I responded to you. What's your malfunction?
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@TheLegendOfRandy Why would there need to be a law to enforce such a thing? It's completely absurd
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@pineapple2.041 Why would you presume that I was referring to the 1% of cases, rather than the 99% that involve choices? 🤡
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Sorry, if one's identity is predicated upon the supposition that all of society must deny objective reality, and participate in the cosplay and LARPing-- then that identity isn't valid.
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You should do some research into those who regret transitioning, and poll their political affiliations
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@Erik-fn7kj You should. You still fail to persuade, and need to do a lot better if you intend to create allies rather than adversaries, because on the substantive issues-- you've got nothing but delusional idiocy being marketed as normalcy, and that's tragic-- since you're trying to persuade 'Normies' over to your side of the mental illness isle's narrative, and your approach isn't getting it done-- OBVIOUS to those with a functioning pre-frontal cortex
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A synonym for empathy is pity
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@cj4ebay I expect that people who aren't prepared to risk pregnancy and deal with the consequences-- avoid them, and for someone with some integrity to inform them that the world doesn't owe them a life free from adversity.
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@BlackRoyalty-hh8tb The Psychiatric literature disagrees with you, regarding gender dysphoria being a mental disorder. You don't help someone by validating a delusion, as though it's based in reality.
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@cj4ebay Wait till the insecure, and ultra-confused find out that skirts, dresses, heels, makeup, hormones, surgery and literally the color pink doesn't make them women. The narrative is inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament, neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys-- with gender
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@user-yl4lf9mh1w A synonym for empathy is pity
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@lwdrd A synonym for empathy is pity
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It's also totally irrelevant and ridiculous considering that women (ALL of them) are born female.
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@wickxd9929 And it clearly is NOT, as evidenced by the facts-- making it a terrible red herring argument.
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@mariec3733 You argue like a guy, pretending to be a girl
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@wickxd9929 You haven't heard-- lol-- They have rights before that too
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@Maksie0 Says the f00l who has difficulty deciphering males from females. Kick Rocks
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Fact, respect is earned and is limited to that which is respectable
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@grciesvn How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@Maksie0 Then they need to cope harder
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Altering one's appearance and a costume change doesn't turn men into women-- similarly the same is true, regarding men in drag
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@SirFish1 And? If they did, it wouldn't make it so either
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That dude is still a dude and will always be a dude. He isn't trans anything
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Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They appear to be misgendering themselves. How are they not?
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@markusbaker1161 Nah, one doesn't need to be a doctor to recognize the difference between males and females
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@markusbaker1161 You mean people presenting as that which they are not? Sure
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@markusbaker1161 When those labels get thrown around, I know you've lost the intellectual debate. Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 You're free to tell yourself whatever delusional narrative you want, and believe it too-- that doesn't make it so, and your comment-- same as your others, refutes nothing that I've written.
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@markusbaker1161 Irony?? You seem emotionally vested in trying to make a spectacle of yourself.
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@markusbaker1161 Already have. The fact that you don't recognize it is agan-- a YOU problem. You fail to persuade
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@Maksie0 The 'because you said so' standard has been issued exactly ZERO credibility, so you're going to have to do much better, if you intend to persuade the use of your subjective pronouns, and so far-- you're failing miserably. fwiw, pronouns are objective, not subjective and you don't get to choose your own
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@Maksie0 Yours was a troll comment intended to be obnoxious. My focus is on the totally incoherent ideology that you appear to endorse. THAT should be embarrassing for you, but that presumes a level of awareness. You've refuted exactly NONE of my points, and answered NONE of my question. You really need to do better-- Groomer
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@Maksie0 I didn't sign my youtube comments Zach. Like I said, You really need to do better and you think that sort of substance-free comment will persuade use of your preferred pronouns-- it does not. The answer is still No
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The problem they have with their virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual virtue in any of their unhinged whinging.
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@p4nd4b01 “The truth has no defense against a fool determined to believe a lie.” It's XX, XY, Birth defect... That's it
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@Maksie0 You're triggered and never happy are you. LOL Cope Harder
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They do. So much so, that they get triggered if you don't perceive them as they perceive themselves
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You better watch that logic stuff, in this echo chamber of intellectual bankruptcy in this place
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@jupiterfox7683 There is exactly ZERO science proving males can become females and vice versa. Suggesting, therefore that trans women are women is patently absurd and false.
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What prevents them from selecting adoption as an option?
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@eveliinahannele Birth control is a means for preventing you from getting pregnant. It doesn't always work, and you know that-- so YOU assume the risk of getting pregnant, when you're out there creating the risk you say you're desperately trying to avoid. You just want an easy pass to be promiscuous without any consequences. Well, there's no such thing. Please NEVER procreate. Get your tubes tied, since you have such a vested interest in maintaining your pursuit of promiscuity on demand
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@TheLegendOfRandy Oh the irony
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I appreciate your mockery of the gaggle of trolls and their nonsense
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It is the trans-activists, who's insistence that others-- who are already minding their own business, participate in LARP and cosplay, by insisting on the grammatically incorrect use of pronouns, and with no regard for the displacement of women's privacy, which is at the root of how you brought your business to everyone in public, making it their business. Irony or idiocy? Quit your whining.
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@thankyouforbeingafriend9632 When they say trans women are women they are. ALL women are born female.
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So, it looks like you're saying all these trans people who have a sewer slide rate 10x's higher than the average should've been aborted.
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@Maksie0 You and your incoherent ideology are being rejected wholesale. Cope and seethe
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@Maksie0 Not even close.
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@Maksie0 You need some better material. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. If you could process the facts, reality wouldn't be so confusing for you
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@eveliinahannele Abortion should not be legal anywhere, but for special circumstances, when the mother's life is in imminent peril. That option isn't 'fixing' anything. It's avoiding EVERYTHING.
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@eveliinahannele Nope, no such thing as that unless you're using creative spelling with the word rite
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@eveliinahannele The baby's body, which the woman facilitated by engaging in the one and only act which actually causes their unwanted pregnancy in the other 99% of cases-- isn't the woman's to terminate. That's the point The extreme narrative that you'e selecting to use doesn't justify it either. The resulting child of that ULTRA rare pregnancy, is still innocent.
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@eveliinahannele What rite? Where's it established? Who established it? 🦗🦗
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@mariec3733 Pedantic response
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@beingcece Being accurate in a debate, isn't being disrespectful ANYWHERE. Respect is earned, and is reserved for that which is respectable, is it not?
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@beingcece That wasn't much of a refutation. I prefer to use people's names when talking to them. You do you
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@jackmiddleton2080 Some hairy dude in a dress screaming, "It's MA'AM"-- while insisting that they're a woman doesn't make it so. Similarly, having a plastic surgeon change your appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek, doesn't actually make you a Klingon. Same is true regarding gender transition surgery. Still, XX or XY
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@Maksie0 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female; Those dudes weren't, and aren't any kind of woman-- they're still men. Get Real
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@The.rapist911 That f00l is a trans-activist troll acting as an agent provocateur. Probably paid by the channel
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@Maksie0 You still haven't figured out that the world is rejecting your incoherent narrative for being ludicrous, and removed from reality, yet? The use of cis is nonsense. There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female
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Pro Life here
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@pixiestick3251 I never accused you of being relevant, though I do recommend it in the future. You haven't justified terminating the lives of the offspring in the womb, which would at least be relevant.
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@pixiestick3251 I'm Not trying to change your mind. I'm exposing your morality-free, and paper thin arguments for what they are. It's not an argument. I'm not under the impression that there's a middle ground, for a meeting of the minds regarding subjects like these which hinge on morality, between those who value life, and those like you-- who do not, and advocate in favor of it being disposable in the name of convenience
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@pixiestick3251 No worries... I dismissed you a while back. I raised my own, and have nothing to do with this unrighteous debauchery, other than calling it out for what it is, and saying it's wrong.
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Shallow intellect and shady morals
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@shannynmartin3157 That didn't answer the question. Try again?
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@shannynmartin3157 That doesn't answer the question either. Do Better
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@shannynmartin3157 Still, not an answer. They aren't trans ANYTHING. Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after
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Gender dysphoria is a distressing condition. We have known for a long time that it is associated with other psychiatric disorders such as depression, and increased rate of self-delete attempts. The surgery and medical treatment is not perfect. It is thus not surprising that this group of patients will continue to suffer from stress-related psychiatric disorders. There might be lingering professional and relational problems. It is also possible (but unproven) that gender dysphoria is somehow etiologically related to depression. In that case, fixing the first with a cure would not automatically fix the latter.
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They get it wrong on gender. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles with personality. There is no such thing as non-binary. Then, they conflate males with females, men with women and reality with fantasy all the while failing to recognize that there is a prerequisite to being a woman, and that actually being born female.
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Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@Tusisvrivhing There's no hate involved in recognizing that someone is not that which they claim-- It just makes one observant. Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is actually respectable. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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@xxkankala1671 Why?
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Islamophobe
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@albertbloodstone5921 No, it isn't. It's sophomoric at best
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@annawintourhairera A worm isn't her offspring, being the salient point you're avoiding, Troll
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@annawintourhairera I reject that nihilistic view you seem to have of life
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Start your own league
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@markusbaker1161 Why would I? Men fund our own leagues. Why shouldn't they fund theirs?
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@markusbaker1161 The truth matters
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@markusbaker1161 How so?
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@markusbaker1161 Define it. I don't think it is. Biological sex/gender is fixed and permanent, and those who you're referring to as transgender aren't trans anything whatsoever. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do.
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@markusbaker1161 LOL... Gender Dysphoria isn't being trans. It's a psych disorder which presents as a dissociative state
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@markusbaker1161 Call them what you want. They're men caricaturing women, or women caricaturing men, some suffer with gender dysphoria, and others are just indulging their own kink, and/or desire to be counter-culture. I recognize that they are not that which they claim to be or present themselves as, like it or not. The fact is that the social norms are actually established currently, and a dude in a dress LARPing and engaging in cosplay are clearly not it, and even if they were-- it's still a dude in a dress not trans anything. They're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after. These dudes like Blossom are the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not.
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@markusbaker1161 You never defined which rights you were referring to. So? Which rights are you referring to?
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is the construct, based in fantasy. Cope harder
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@markusbaker1161 Actually, by the majority of the inhabitants of the earth, but you go ahead believe what you will
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@markusbaker1161 No, I really don't. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. That you can't wrap your head around that, is a You problem
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@Zombawee Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They appear to be misgendering themselves. How are they not?
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@markusbaker1161 I never argued that they weren't individuals. They're just not what they present themselves as, so when they say trans women are women-- that's just factually inaccurate
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@markusbaker1161 Their dissociative state is delusional by definition. Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 If you can, so can I
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They're both males presenting as something they're not-- females. Men dressed as prostitutes and adult burlesque entertainment doesn't belong anywhere near kids
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@Maksie0 You and yours are the only ones fooled by the cosplay. The rest of the world see you as you are in reality, not through the lenses of your subjective sense of yourself
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Someone who's intellectually disenfranchised, and morally bankrupt
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@mariagraciamorenovegas7722 Toxic people of all stripes exist (Male, Female, Gay, Straight, Black, White, Male, Female) C'mon now...
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@mariec3733 Blah, blah, blah... You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and have only established that you're a troll
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They seem to fail to comprehend that the 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female.
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@Bound2chaos2 🎯 1 Million up votes
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Way too many conflate gender (There are only 2) with gender roles and personality traits as though they're synonymous-- and they aren't, which causes them even more confusion than they already have
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Why would someone who believes they're a woman wish to have the 'trans' distinction drawn? That's Extremely Odd
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There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the cis distinction totally irrelevant and intellectually stunted
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@lanacat-j2y I did, and you failed to prove me incorrect. Let me expand-- Not all trans people suffer with dysphoria (OR, are you saying that they all do?), but they all do have a way higher risk of self deleting than the rest of the of the general population, so I see it as a more pressing underlying issue to address, than a mere matter of cosmetics. The argument in favor of affirmative care is, if you don't let them transition that they'll self-delete. Well, they seem to do that even if you do let them transition, so as far as I'm concerned it's an invalid argument. Not having coping mechanisms to deal with the adversity one faces in life is a psych issue, that surgery doesn't alleviate-- which begs the questioning of affirmation-based treatment protocols, along with the ethics of those who do
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Just to clarify-- Those are, in fact, 2 words. That is a 'phrase', not a word.
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@rosemondodor8199 These delusional living memes illustrate the need for more asylums
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@vtwinxtreme marie c is an activist troll
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@vtwinxtreme No worries... Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not. They seem unable to process the info
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@conor.3875 Being used after being made aware of the objection, is provocative. Trans is the fringe-- women aren't the opposite of trans, they're the standard which the men who you refer to as trans women, are trying to emulate-- making the cis distinction entirely irrelevant and redundant
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@mariec3733 You seem triggered
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@mariec3733 People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and prior. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules, it has nothing to do with gender.
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@conor.3875 And I don't think your endorsement is required, or valued by the vast majority-- to make any difference whatsoever to those who find your entire narrative invalid
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@conor.3875 Then, when someone refuses to indulge you, by using your preferred pronouns, participating in your LARPing and cosplay-- keep your mouth shut.
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@thatoneclown4723 Yes, you did. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. You got it totally wrong on gender. Then, you conflate gender with personality. Then, you conflate gender and gender roles. Then you conflate men with women, males with females, science with science-fiction and fact with fiction. A woman isn't a personality, costume, social construct, nor a feeling. She's an adult, human female.
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Nah, we just recognize that they're men in a costume
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@Maksie0 Cope Harder... All women are born female and that dude is unhinged from reality, and so are you-- if you think he's a 'she'
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I call 🐄💩
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Pronouns are objective... You don't get to choose your own, but for the ones You choose to utilize when speaking.
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@krasmasov6852 Only when speaking for yourself -- and then your choices are limited to I, Me, My-- unless you're talking about yourself in the 3rd person, which is pretty weird. You should get a refund from your English grammar teachers. You don't get to choose the one's that others use, when speaking about you to someone else. 1st person pronouns are grouped into 5 categories: Subject pronouns 1st person "I", Object pronouns 1st person "Me", possessive adjectives 1st person "My", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Mine", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Myself" 2nd person: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourself" 3rd person (Male): Subject pronouns 3rd person "He", Object pronouns 3rd person "Him", possessive adjectives 3rd person "His", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "His", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Himself" 3rd person (Female): Subject pronouns 3rd person "She", Object pronouns 3rd person "Her", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Her", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Hers", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Herself" 3rd Thing: Subject pronouns 3rd thing "It", Object pronouns 3rd thing "It", possessive adjectives 3rd thing "Its", Possessive pronouns 3rd thing "Not Used", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd thing "Itself" 1st person plural: Subject pronouns "We", Object pronouns 1st person "Us", possessive adjectives 1st person "Our", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Ours", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Ourselves" 2nd person plural: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourselves" 3rd person and (thing) plural: Subject pronouns "They", Object pronouns "Them", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Their", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Theirs", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Themselves". Now stop embarrassing yourself.
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@krasmasov6852 That's wrong, and I provided the proof. Your inability to comprehend it is all on you. I can only provide the facts for you, I can't understand them 'For' you too. Like I said, you should get a refund from your English grammar teachers
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@Erik-fn7kj Explain...
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@kiaz1st In the case of women choosing to facilitate their own risk of pregnancy-- there is no one else to blame for their unwanted pregnancy-- but them, and nobody forced them to do that.
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I'll try to break it down for you... Life is valuable, not disposable, and advocating in favor of terminating children is devoid of virtue, honor, and morality. Innocent baby's shouldn't be terminated because adults can't act responsibly. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one of a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences?
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@Jay-jaya-02 To quote another poster, ""Abortion doesn't affect you, why do you care" White's only signs wouldn't have affected me either, but that means I shouldn't care, ryt??"
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@Jay-jaya-02 Also, I raised my own (now in his 30's) as a single parent, without his bio-mom in the picture. How many have you raised?
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@Jay-jaya-02 The 'Pro'-choice you're in favor of maintaining-- is the ability to terminate the child in the womb, in the name of convenience and it's shameful. The morals and ethics of those who would declare the unborn to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are questionable-- at Best, and are those of narcissists and sociopaths.
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So? If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? In other words: If a girl, trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (supposedly the reason for transitioning), How can gender be fluid and separate from biology? Answer: It can't
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@user-ky1zz2ih7m It's clearly beyond your capacity
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Don't conflate personality traits and temperament (As neither are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender or gender roles-- as though they're synonymous. They are not. One's subjective identity, in conflict with objective reality, isn't valid.
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@markusbaker1161 Those who say trans women are women do, as an attempt to justify granting those men access into women's private spaces. So-- stfu,and move on. Your cult rhetoric is rejected
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@markusbaker1161 Okay
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@markusbaker1161 Look it up
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@markusbaker1161 No need. A quick search will yield results showing the stats. It'd be really easy to prove me incorrect, if I was incorrect-- but you can't, because I'm not
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@markusbaker1161 Like I said, you can't find anything that proves what I said incorrect.
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@markusbaker1161 I've been asking questions, scrutinizing your conclusions and statements contrasting against the available stats and data-- and you've not yet substantiated your position. No worries. I already knew you wouldn't and couldn't.
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@mariec3733 What's your point? That men and women aren't social constructs, or that subjective gender identity in conflict w/ reality, is not a reason that men should be granted access into women's private spaces?
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@mariec3733 Then, stay tf out of women's private spaces.
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@mariec3733 An adult, human, female. My definition hasn't changed ever
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@mariec3733 I seriously doubt that you're a woman. Deal with it. You're not even convincing online
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@markusbaker1161 I don't know what you're whinging about. There are people.They are male or female, respectively. Segments of each present with various physical deficits, and psych issues-- some with both. That doesn't make them any less male or female.
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@markusbaker1161 No, I never did. A woman is an adult, human, female. Healthy, unhealthy or no longer living, they're all still women-- with periods or not. The prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. Your inability to process that indicates you're kinda slow. You only need to be able to read the studies and the DSM definitions that explains them; Until about 5 seconds ago when the hacks you rely on changed the classifications. The only ones fooled are you and yours-- which are the vast vast minority.
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@smurschmur1954 Nah... stems from him being granted participation trophy accolades, as though they're merit based, all his life
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James Brown impersonator in a weird wig?? 😏
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@markusbaker1161 Hey trans clown, you're only fooling yourself
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@mariec3733 No, I'm not. You, on the other hand, are incorrectly confusing and conflating personality with gender and gender roles.
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@blahajlife8259 Biological birth defects/disorders aren't another gender invalidating the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species.
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They aren't trans ANYTHING. Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after. They're just caricatures of real women.
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@Maksie0 Cope harder! If You want to integrate into society-- then remember that it's YOU, who needs to adapt, not the majority- who reject your trans-activist ideology. To insist that society must play along with your counter-culture position-- makes you seem arrogant, narcissistic, self-entitled and ridiculous. You're not the center of the universe and the world isn't going to reorganize itself to accommodate your subjective feelings, contrary to objective reality. You need to develop better coping mechanisms to deal with adversity, because not everyone is going to like you, or be accommodating.
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@toldya4654 Quit your gaslighting. The vast majority of people cross-culturally and internationally reject the trans ideological narrative. Don't believe me... Ask Budweiser, Disney, Target, etc. The vast vast vast minority don't get to tell everyone else how they need to remake the world in their image. Get Real
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@toldya4654 And yet, the self termination rates are higher than ever, and way higher than that of the general population-- despite being more accepted than ever. Looks like they were better off prior to affirmation-based treatment becoming the standard. Thoughts???
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@yepitsjilly trans women are men. It's not complicated
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@Maksie0 'Transphobic'-- What a toothless, intellectually bankrupt slur. Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are inappropriately confusing and conflating gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous and they are NOT, while simultaneously insisting that biological sex and gender are disconnected-- while failing to realize that a subjective identity doesn't alter anyone's biological reality. Lost souls
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@markusbaker1161 That's wrong
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@markusbaker1161 You don't know what's true. You can't decipher the differences between men and women.
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@markusbaker1161 Nope, you referred to hacks with questionable ethics, being challenged by their medical professional peers.
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@markusbaker1161 Your needs couldn't be less important to me. Your fantasy-based cult ideology is rejected. You said sex and gender were separate; making the point that one's subjective gender identity doesn't alter their biology. Referring to him as she is grammatically incorrect and absent any basis in reality. Your talking points and cult ideology are rejected
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@markusbaker1161 You know 💩
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Men cannot become women and women cannot become men. It's XX, XY, Birth defect/Anomaly-- That's it. The trans-activist ideology, agenda and narrative are incoherent and are anti-women.
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There's no phobia in recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim to be-- it's just a matter of being observant of objective reality
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@markusbaker1161 A phobia is an irrational fear. There's nothing irrational about protecting children from groomers
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@markusbaker1161 I have nieces and nephews. Why don't you care?
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@markusbaker1161 Apparently, you believe that's some how relevant.
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@markusbaker1161 I don't think it is, other than perhaps illustrating that you would prefer that groomers watch over your kids. You do you
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@markusbaker1161 Like I said-- You do you. I would prefer you leave your kids w/ someone else too
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@markusbaker1161 No worries, feel free to keep your head buried in the sand, and don't forget to get all of your boosters.
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@markusbaker1161 You apparently still haven't read the medical studies I provided you. If you have difficulty with that, have your mom read and explain them to you
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@markusbaker1161 Are you trying to prove that you're incompetent? Yes, I have-- in multiple places. Do your own damned research, like an intelligent adult
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Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. No?
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@markusbaker1161 How so?
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@markusbaker1161 Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 Believe what you will. It in no way impacts the reality of the situation that men cannot become women
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@markusbaker1161 That's what I'd tell them, if they got triggered over being called out for their disguises-- not making them women.
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@alxprtr How many kids have you raised to become happy, healthy, successful adults?
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@markusbaker1161 Ahh, my stalker.
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is the construct. You're Welcome
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@markusbaker1161 Show me one, that is what they say they are. They don't exist.
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is the real construct. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Cope Harder
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@gozunekin20 I am me.
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@gozunekin20 hello
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@mariec3733 Your comprehension capacity deficit seems to prevent you from comprehending the ones you do respond to
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People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and prior. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender.
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@partimelobster As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born a female, and those dudes haven't been. Wake up
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@wetworms. A woman is an adult, human, female. As it turns out, the prerequisite for being a woman is being born female.
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@mariec3733 Males have a P, females have a V. The same way doctors do when they deliver a newborn baby. How many kids do you have? I was there in the delivery room, and can confirm this w/ 1st hand info. Can you?
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There are No trans humans. There are people, and people are male or female, respectively and that status is fixed and permanent. Renaming an apple and choosing to call it an orange doesn't alter the nature of an apple nor an orange. One's feelings counter to objective reality don't alter reality, and they certainly don't create an obligation for everyone in society to deny objective reality to suite your psych instability.
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No, you're born female. Women are females who mature into adulthood
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The incoherent narrative suggests that gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity. Both can't be true, showing the narrative is incoherent
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The Vast majority of people are only of average intelligence, and there are a LOT of people WAY less intellectually sound than that.
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@mariec7352 Don't be too hard on yourself. Your failure to justify terminating the innocent or refute any of my arguments-- at the root of your depression can be blamed on your cognitive dissonance.
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Bottom line is Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@markusbaker1161 I'm merely being observant of reality, not making any decisions about someone choosing to alter their appearance. What are you referring to, regarding decision making powers?
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@markusbaker1161 If one's identity is predicated on the notion that the world ignore reality,then that identity is not valid. Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@sophiaschier-hanson4163 Because the truth matters. The fact people recognize that men cannot become women seems to trigger the advocates and those who wish they could is of no consequence. One doesn't need to be a doctor to decipher the difference between males and females
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@Erik-fn7kj They are definitely pretending to be that which they are not and can never become, which are Men. They are still women, despite their extreme disguise efforts
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@Maksie0 He
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The problem they have is that life is based in objective reality, which exposes their narratives as intellectually vacant Choosing to call an apple an orange, doesn't alter the nature of an apple nor an orange. Your preferences re: s3xu@l matters don't alter whether or not you're male or female, and neither does choosing self mutil@tion or castration. The thing is, societies which have been long established, and steeped in tradition aren't obligated to abandon their established cultural norms to support a counter-culture ideology. To suggest that they owe it to you is the height of narcissism and arrogance. It's for YOU to integrate into the society which you choose to be in, not for them to change for you. Sheesh.... That sound you're hearing is the sound of rejection from the vast majority of the people on earth, of the trans-activist, ideological, cult narratives. Nobody owes you. Cope Harder
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I think of it like, inviting someone into your home, and choosing to terminate their life, prior to the end of their stay. Life is valuable and worth living. There's no justification for terminating the innocent in the womb,barring the mother's life being in imminent peril. The child which is in the womb, is there because the mother facilitated herself becoming pregnant, when choosing to risk an unwanted pregnancy, by engaging in the one and only act which causes her totally avoidable, self-inflicted dilemma. How smart is that? I can name that tune in no notes (Not at all smart) Innocent baby's shouldn't be terminated because adults can't act responsibly.
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All of them?
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@krasmasov6852 Evil, sociopathic agendas are in play everywhere-- seems to cover it
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@Maksie0 I already did, Now-- Go look it up
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@Maksie0 So? And, Yes-- I did. You're coming across like an activist, Groomer-Troll
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@bgos4727 Psychopath
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Considering their analytical capacity, I wouldn't put it past them
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@samhg3658 Yes, rape is bad, however only 1% of abortion cases are rape related-- so in the grand scheme of things-- your mountain isn't even a mole hill
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Yes, make shame great again
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@grilledcheese2100 😄
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Expecting intellectual integrity from confused people, isn't logical
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@Maksie0 Just remember, when you think things are against you-- it's probably You, and the world doesn't owe you acceptance. If You want to integrate into society-- then remember that it's YOU, who needs to adapt. To insist that society must play along with your counter-culture position-- makes you seem arrogant, narcissistic, self-entitled and ridiculous. You're not the center of the universe and the world isn't going to reorganize itself to accommodate your subjective feelings, contrary to objective reality. You need to develop better coping mechanisms to deal with adversity, because not everyone is going to like you, or be accommodating. There's only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female. Take your time to process reality
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Why would you expect confused, delusional people to be rational?
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@ＯＦＡＲＡ I'm not trying to persuade you to use pronouns, which conflict with reality. A trans-person that doesn't go through transition therapy, is not a 'trans' anything. I identify as someone who doesn't have to participate in the transgender fancies of the mentally ill, or the intellectually bankrupt. You fail to persuade
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@ＯＦＡＲＡ The incoherent narrative that suggests gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity is an IQ test, and the people who don't realize the lunacy of their narratives-- Failed
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@ＯＦＡＲＡ I have no doubt
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@kylewilliams5454 Like I said, You don't get to choose the one's that others use, when speaking about you to someone else. 1st person pronouns are grouped into 5 categories: Subject pronouns 1st person "I", Object pronouns 1st person "Me", possessive adjectives 1st person "My", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Mine", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Myself" 2nd person: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourself" 3rd person (Male): Subject pronouns 3rd person "He", Object pronouns 3rd person "Him", possessive adjectives 3rd person "His", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "His", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Himself" 3rd person (Female): Subject pronouns 3rd person "She", Object pronouns 3rd person "Her", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Her", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Hers", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Herself" 3rd Thing: Subject pronouns 3rd thing "It", Object pronouns 3rd thing "It", possessive adjectives 3rd thing "Its", Possessive pronouns 3rd thing "Not Used", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd thing "Itself" 1st person plural: Subject pronouns "We", Object pronouns 1st person "Us", possessive adjectives 1st person "Our", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Ours", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Ourselves" 2nd person plural: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourselves" 3rd person and (thing) plural: Subject pronouns "They", Object pronouns "Them", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Their", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Theirs", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Themselves". Now stop embarrassing yourself.
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@yansideabacoa6257 Cope harder... Trans women are men with issues pretending that that they're women without issues
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@glassesyouneed6876 grow up
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@glassesyouneed6876 What more needs to be said? If you have difficulty with recognizing the difference between males and females, you should find a therapist
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There is no such animal. There is no trans anything. You're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering your appearance as you are after
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@peeteee Do you?
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@mariec3733 The topic revolves around women's unwanted pregnancies, and the fact that they have all the power and ability to prevent them. It isn't as if they don't know the risks of having sex includes pregnancy. (wanted or unwanted)
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@mariec3733 Nah... the record is perfectly clear. You're triggered from having been so thoroughly owned. The fact that you don't admit to or realize it is of no consequence. You're dismissed as a troll, provocateur, and an agitator who's established nothing whatsoever, but your own shallow character and you have refuted nothing whatsoever either.
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@mariec3733 Why would men have any culpability regarding a woman's choice to risk herself getting pregnant, if she has none? How does abortion, in your mind-- demonstrate valuing innocent life?
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@mariec3733 I'm talking about a woman's preference to avoid a pregnancy, which creates her obligation to make wise decisions to prevent them. It's her risk to take, as she's the one that gets pregnant-- BUT, there are consequences and she knows it, and so is without excuse. How does advocating in favor of terminating the life of the innocent in the womb, show anything but a casual belief that life is disposable? How is it that a guy is responsible for her willingness to choose to engage in the one and only act that actually causes it, thereby playing the part of the wrench in the spokes to her own preference to avoid pregnancy-- by granting him access?
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@mariec3733 He says, while going out of his way to make more triggered, substance-free commentary in a thread I started-- while not answering the question. You've been thoroughly owned, and exposed as a troll all throughout this comment section-- You've established nothing substantive, and you've refuted even less
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@justapotato2434 I don't oppose abortion when the mother's life is in imminent peril. They know that, because I've previously written that. The conclusion they reach, that therefore I don't value innocent life is pure idiocy from start to finish.
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@mariec3733 For some reason, You're just terrified of admitting that women are responsible for their bad choices which end up facilitating their avoidable and unwanted pregnancies. Post your evidence to support your allegation. Link, or something to substantiate your false claim. It doesn't exist, and you're FOS.
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@mariec3733 Post your link or cite the thread. That'll prove it 🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗
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@matt1325 a non-viable ectopic pregnancy is one example
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@mariec3733 And?? Why do you disagree?
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@RageNoyd Alas, "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell But-- I like to put it out there for the record
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It should read, Delusional men vs women
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Throughout most all of history-- a small minority have ruled over the majority, who were oppressed (Both Men and Women) Get Real
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His cognitive dissonance can't comprehend, so he gets triggered
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Yup... Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Gender and Personality-- They conflate the difference. There's only one kind of woman, and they are all born females, so... using the cis prefix is totally redundant and unnecessary. The entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh There are males and females. That's it! Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct, and they act like she is. She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals specifically humans. Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1. Your body and brain develop & grow together -> You simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2. Hating a functional part of you body so much, that you opt to cut it off, is a mental illness. There are only males and females. Those are dudes in disguise. They aren't trans anything. The prerequisite to being a woman is being born female, and those dudes were not.
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Or of asking if they intended to prove that there is no such thing as a gender pay gap, IF gender was fluid. Their lack of capacity to comprehend basic logic is astonishing
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@Maksie0 There are no trans humans. There are males and females... That's it-- making the use of cis and trans nonsensical
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@conor.3875 I recognize dudes as dudes, regardless of their quirky cosplay and LARPing-- presenting themselves as flamboyant, stereotypes and caricatures of women. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the use of 'cis' entirely irrelevant.
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@conor.3875 Have you? You keep asking the same questions, so I keep giving you the same answers
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@conor.3875 Well, Now you know. You're welcome
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@Maksie0 There's no such thing as trans women. That's just another word you use to describe confused men, who cosplay and LARP portraying the stereotype of a caricature of a female. There are only males and females, which is why using the cis prefix is entirely nonsensical
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@conor.3875 Yes, you did. Granted, you didn't ask me-- but nonetheless, Now you know. You're Welcome
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@conor.3875 What do you want? A medal... Don't care. I gave you facts, not an opinion
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@conor.3875 You did in fact ask. Cope harder
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@conor.3875 Just take the 'L', and walk away
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@Maksie0 The problem you have is that the world exists in an objective reality, and the vast vast vast majority of people don't have a problem deciphering males from females, or reality from the disconnected claims of subjective identity, contrary to reality-- of the confused. Your feelings about objective reality and wishing it were different, don't affect reality in the slightest bit. Once a male, always a male. Once a female, always a female. Quit conflating personality with gender as though they're synonymous-- They Aren't
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@mariec7352 You're exposed as nothing more than a caricature.
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@mariec3733 Aww... Name calling now? Well, You have failed to make a case which justifies terminating the life of the innocent in the womb-- as an option, available to women. You say you're for autonomy, yet ignore the autonomy of the baby's body, which the mother facilitated being in her womb through her own choices and actions. It appears that the only thing you're consistent with is your incoherence and hypocrisy.
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@mariec3733 Total Nonsense. Her autonomy was fully in tact when she decided to risk pregnancy. Once she conceived the baby's body autonomy comes into play
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@mariec3733 The baby's isn't, is the point.
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@mariec3733 Sure it does. You've eliminated the woman's accountability for her condition from your analysis and narrative, and your failure to and refusal to recognize that the baby's autonomy begins when the woman gets pregnant-- seems interesting, as you've been prattling on about bodily autonomy. What's up with that?
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@mariec3733 Yes, it does. 1st of all, because the baby is innocent. Why don't you acknowledge or care about the innocent baby's body autonomy, which the mother caused to exist in 99+% of cases (Not talking about rape)? 🦗 It doesn't cancel out a woman's body autonomy. She has her autonomy in tact, when she knowingly chooses to risk herself getting pregnant, and she can choose to thwart it and facilitate her pregnancy by choosing to engage in the one and only act which actually causes it-- if she pleases. Once she does, she's without excuse. It's her own fault, and there's no justification for terminating the body autonomy and life of the innocent once she creates it--
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@mariec3733 No, lobbying to be able to terminate the life of the child she created, through her own choice and action doesn't make her a hero. It makes her the villain, imo. If she wanted to avoid a pregnancy, and then facilitates it-- She's the cause of her own dilemma. Not too bright
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@mariec3733 If we truly value human life then we would never justify abortion in circumstances where the mother's life isn't at risk. Period. Its not a debate
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@mariec3733 Nonsense. You've admitted that you don't value human life and that you believe men can become women and vice versa-- justifying dismissing your thoughts as muddled, at Best. Terminating the lives of the innocent isn't helping to save lives, genius. Pull your head out of your backside
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@batlover1977 It's a term used in chemistry which has nothing to do with gender. Get Real
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@batlover1977 It's a term used by radical trans-activists who have major problems with their narratives not surviving scrutiny, as life is based in objective reality, and most don't have difficulty deciphering reality from the trans imagination
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@batlover1977 All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, preference, or costume making the trans-activist terminology as you/they apply it-- make using the cis/trans prefix intellectually hollow and thoroughly irrelevant
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@batlover1977 Reality vs the trans imagination
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Half of the panel are women. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect. That's it... A birth defect isn't another gender
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@thiskid990 The truth is, half the panel are women, not men.
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@thiskid990 There is no valid argument. A woman is an adult, female, human, and that state is permanent-- so it's not an opinion that half the panel are women, it's a Fact.
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@krasmasov6852 Yes, you are
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@krasmasov6852 You've refuted nothing. It's not my job to sustain, affirm, nor validate your delusional gender fantasies, as though they're based in reality. You've failed to to make your case and persuade. Since you don't seem to care about that, getting no respect in return-- should come as no surprise.
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They're never happy.
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@markusbaker1161 Lame-- even for you
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@markusbaker1161 Your conclusion that I was speaking of myself when my comment was clearly discussing others, is what was lame
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@markusbaker1161 That's why you're lame
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@markusbaker1161 I doubt you'd be this provocative and obnoxious in person. You hide behind the anonymity of the internet like a coward, playing the part of the fool. Karma will catch up to you.
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@markusbaker1161 Not more than you calling me names
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@markusbaker1161 It doesn't matter. They didn't justify having males being granted access into women's private spaces. Failing that, none of the minutia that you've been arguing about changes that fact, none of your arguments are relevant
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@markusbaker1161 Women aren't a social construct. Trans women Are
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@Maksie0 Problem w/ you theory is for over a decade the Leftists have been in control, and all the highest crime major cities are democrat run and have been for 50 years
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@mariec3733 There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women, illustrating that your narrative is a totally bogus faith-based, cult belief-- with zero evidence to support your claim that trans women are women. Checkmate / You lost
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@krasmasov6852 That's naive
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@krasmasov6852 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of the binary male and female, respectively. Your lack of clarity on the topic doesn't invalidate reality
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@krasmasov6852 The 'Because you said so' standard has been issued exactly ZERO credibility. You're wrong, but that's ok... You can blame your ignorance
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@krasmasov6852 That's not a refutation and it certainly doesn't establish your assertion as true nor correct.
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@Maksie0 There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female making it useless, but it denigrates women by suggesting that there is another kind-- and there is not.
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@i_kissed_a_pixie1537 It never happened.
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@Maksie0 Your tantrum doesn't make you correct
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@QittoBaltt2003 Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can choose to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, don't?
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If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? In other words: If a girl, trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (supposedly the reason for transitioning), How can gender be fluid and separate from biology? Answer: It can't
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Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is actually respectable. Those men aren't women. Women aren't a costume that those men can simply put on and take off, and they're not a feeling or a social construct. Women are adult, human, females and as it turns out-- the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female.
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@Maksie0 Do you know what a woman is?
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@aharrypotterfan5951 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the use of 'cis' totally irrelevant and useless.
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@@malaika777 🎯
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Just stop. Satan is the father of Cain, not Adam. Study the parable of the wheat and the tares, the sheep and the goat judgements, and the fig tree for a deeper understanding
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They do that and then insist that gender is fluid, so it REALLY doesn't make any coherent sense
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@es0teric76 "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell They're conflating variability in personality traits and temperament (neither of which are gender exclusive, hence tomboys, effeminate males and butch females), and are trying to recategorize them and rename them synonymously with "Gender" and that's absurd.
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@ChristinaFromYoutube Deception, playing dress-up, and fraud. These people can't accept themselves, so go through elaborate lengths to alter their appearance, but demand that everyone accept them as their disguise, rather than for who and what they really are.
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@pinnacleproductions6275 Still a dude
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🤣😂🤭😵😵‍💫🥴
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@Maksie0 Is that what your mom says to you?
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@9898alexis The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule-- they prove the rule-- hence being the exceptions
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@eveliinahannele It's basic 6th grade science. Get a refund from your school
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@eveliinahannele A pregnancy is the creation of a new life now growing inside a female. How do you fail to know this? Open any basic biology textbook and look up reproduction. 🤣
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@maya.sunsubs All women are born female, all men are born male (ZERO exceptions) and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference, or a costume--making the 'cis/trans' prefix intellectually bankrupt and totally useless
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A woman who recognizes that Blossom is a fool
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If the topic is women's unwanted pregnancy, the only factor that matters is-- Women avoiding them, by not facilitating them and creating their own totally avoidable unwanted dilemma
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@Empress1011 Of course it takes 2, however; She's the gatekeeper of her own body, and the one who risks her body w/ an unwanted pregnancy. It occurs to me that she has an obligation to herself to avoid it, regardless of ANYONE else's thoughts on Her choosing to risk it or not. The guy may not have a problem w/her getting pregnant. My point is, the power to avoid the avoidable unwanted pregnancy of their own body's rests w/ women. fwiw-- Not all men are pro choice, and none are getting pregnant, or choosing FOR millions of women to continue to facilitate their risks, or choose terminate their own children, MANY-- more than once.
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How so?
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@BlackRoyalty-hh8tb Quit inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament, neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys, with gender.
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@petemiller2920 You present yourself with the integrity of a phone scammer
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@markusbaker1161 It appears you're on-shift at the scammer call-center too
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@markusbaker1161 No. I'm still correct and unrefuted. What's to be upset about?
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@petemiller2920 By the fact that I've not been refuted, in this or any other thread. Links???
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@markusbaker1161 Did you ever go read the studies that I gave you the . gov link to? Do Better
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@markusbaker1161 Start w/ a search of suc**ality among transgender youth
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@allyrose28 Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders -- who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@Maksie0 No one smart, validates that as intellectually coherent
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@justyana488 They're gender pretenders. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. They aren't 'trans' ANYTHING
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@Maksie0 It's an intellectually shallow label
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That's putting it mildly
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@justyana488 No. The 'Lord of the Flies' approach to parenting that you're advocating is summarily rejected in the name of sanity
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That is intentional. They're activists, and there's no truth in them
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Not trans anything. Merely a caricature of that which he'll never be-- a woman. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@conor.3875 How?
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SO MANY "And you are Not the father" shows out there, illustrating the promiscuity of women and their willingness to LIE, make your proposition a bit more nuanced than at 1st glance may indicate.
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@VGmaniac104 Not like a parasite either. There are 3 types of parasites, and a fetus doesn't fit the parameters of any of them. The protozoa is a single celled parasite, and a cluster of cells is certainly outside of that class. The second are helminths which are worms, and a fetus was only ever going to develop into a human and a not a worm. The third are ectoparasites, like mosquitoes and ticks that attach themselves to the skin’s surface, which again cannot describe a fetus. There is no medical or scientific case for a fetus to be called a parasite. The only case to be made is strictly hyperbole.
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@VGmaniac104 Like I already pointed out... There is no medical or scientific case for a fetus to be called a parasite. The only case to be made is strictly hyperbole.
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@minmoongi_ It's intellectually vacant
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Look, adult, burlesque entertainment isn't something kids should be around. Trying to justify it makes you look like a gr00mer
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@markusbaker1161 Prove it
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@markusbaker1161 That doesn't prove that it's only my opinion, or that it isn't based on evidence. You've proved nothing and have refuted even less
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@markusbaker1161 I haven't seen you refute anything with evidence, so make of that what you will
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@markusbaker1161 No, you said that. I said, I recognize that they are not that which they present themselves to be. There's a not so subtle difference there
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@markusbaker1161 It shows the power of observation and discernment, that men who alter their appearance do not become women.
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@markusbaker1161 Believe what you will. You're not important enough for your opinion to matter
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@markusbaker1161 Your acceptance isn't required
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Men, wishing they were women are still men, regardless of their feelings, cosplay or LARPing.
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Serious question: If trans women are 'women', and trans-men are 'men'-- it's seems to incoherently indicate that there are no men or women-- But, why the need for transition surgery, etc.-- if gender is not connected to biology, what are they actually identifying with? If you dress up a male dog in a dress, after he's been castrated-- he's still a male dog, wearing a dress. Just sayin... There isn't a female dog in the world that would be confused about him Not being a female dog-- with or without the dress. I'm pretty sure there wouldn't be any male dogs confused about it either.
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@timsplosion NO, it makes it clear that they're attempting to look and act how they perceive their notion of what it is to be the opposite of their biology, looks like. Not if men can be women, and women can be men-- there aren't. Perhaps, making an argument against the possibility of any gender pay gap is the logic? I agree that it's psychological though. Pure fantasy and delusion disconnected from reality. If gender isn't tied to biology, and gender is fluid and unfixed-- why the need for altering the biology, and adding costumes to add in the appearance of actually being the opposite biological sex, rather than just accepting the premise and just correctly identifying as they are? It's unsound thinking I would suggest that if we go with your narrative that gender is not tied to biology, then the biology would be irrelevant, and the idea of transitioning biologically would be senseless. They could just pretend to be what they want. Expecting the rest of the universe to pretend they're a member of a sex that they are not if they believed their narrative--would make them, inconsistent at the very least. They're not entitled to their own pronouns any more than I'm entitled to my own adjectives
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@timsplosion The thing is, the exceptions to the rules don't invalidate the rules-- they validate them-- hence being the exception, and your offered possible explanation doesn't address simple counter-culture perversion and other anti-social dissociative identity disorder personality types that can account for the identity crisis disconnect from objective reality. It, sure as can be-- isn't 'Normal'. It's the textbook definition of a deviation from normalcy aka a dissociative perversion
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Women's body autonomy is in their control, when they choose to risk pregnancy or not... Is it not so? What are you talking about?
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Reality that women are all born female, and all men are born male vs Delusional fantasy... There is no contest
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@mariec3733 The victims of abortions are the aborted babies, and they-- being innocent, shouldn't be consigned to suffering. The mother who risked getting her body pregnant, and has no one to blame but herself, for getting herself pregnant.
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@aaralyn6710 *He. That dude will never be a woman.
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No, intelligence is a feature not distributed equally in nature-- not a privilege
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Well, trans men can be nothing other than women. Just sayin Look, I couldn't possibly care less if they get a surgeon to alter their appearance to look like a Klingon. Even if they really really really believe it actually then makes them a Klingon-- it does not, and anyone who thinks it does is delusional or intellectually stunted. Women (ALL of them) are born female, and that state is fixed and permanent-- making the use of 'Cis' entirely ridiculous. Women aren't social constructs. They're one half of the binary dichotomy of all mammals, specifically humans-- in objective reality. I don't care if they identify as rich, successful and beautiful whatever... if they're not, they're not
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@markusbaker1161 Describing you, it's been written that there are none so blind as those who would not see
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@n.m8287 How do you figure?
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@markusbaker1161 Of course not.
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@markusbaker1161 A social construct. Your turn, what is a woman?
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@markusbaker1161 A trans woman is a male. The reasons behind why they present as other than a male, don't alter the fact that they're male-- Calling those men by another name like trans women, doesn't alter the fact that they're males. Too bad so sad
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@markusbaker1161 A woman isn't a social construct. They're a biological category, so how is it that you figure a trans woman who's biologically male is a biological woman? It just doesn't make any sense
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@T3RM1N4llyOffl1n3 Who told you that? The only thing the world owes you is an expiration date
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@Maksie0 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females. Peddle your nonsense elsewhere
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@harpoonmcfierce9697 Continuing humanity, and civilization
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@harpoonmcfierce9697 That wasn't the question I was answering. People being mortal, we DO need more males (pronouns, and adjectives not withstanding) to continue the species and to maintain civilization. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised by this concept causing you confusion. No worries
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@gretchenroach3671 Waht else would one expect from people who suffer from psych issues such as these? Rhetorical When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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No, that happens because men use lethal force, where women attempt suicide more than men do-- they're just not as successful at it, almost as if they're attention-seeking with the attempt, rather than the success of the mission.
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@Maksie0 Why are you? You're constantly making a spectacle of yourself, spouting nonsense and when questioned, you run away like a cowardly troll
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It's a burlesque form of adult entertainment that doesn't belong around children
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@briannachilders772 That's what a Groomer ad might look like
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@briannachilders772 It's not up to you, groomer. It's up to the parents to determine when that subject is appropriate to address with their children, Not you or anybody else. Cope harder
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@briannachilders772 Looks like You are
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@briannachilders772 G r o o m e r... Kick Rocks
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@Maksie0 The one's looking to control the speech of others w/ preferred pronouns or face legal consequences, are the fascists.
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@pharaoh4866 Brilliant! And each individual can argue among themselves
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@_hariata Because they are a woman. Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent nonsense, as in their near dystopian future-- they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men who will claim to be women, and they don't even see it coming
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😂
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How is that implemented in stadiums, convention centers, and prisons-- where the restrooms must accommodate more than 1 individual at a time. It isn't very practical
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@madelynwilliams3570 The rate of self-deletion, at the very least-- being as high as it is, (even after transition) brings into question not only the efficacy of affirmation-based treatment protocols, but also the ethics of the so-called professionals who endorse and perform these procedures
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@ItsSchwifty And no matter what you tell yourself, it's going to refer to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively-- and altering your appearance, wardrobe, and hormone levels doesn't change that
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@krasmasov6852 There are indeed confused people everywhere
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@krasmasov6852 No, just an observant individual
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Half the panel are women, and have no clue what it is to be men
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@eveliinahannele If you intentionally wreck your car, you shouldn't be surprised that it got wrecked
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@mariec3733 Looks more like avoiding them, at the expense of the life of an innocent baby-- in the name of convenience
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@sodiumso6015 Feel free to revisit a basic 6th grade science textbook on biology and focus in on the chapter that deals with reproduction and fertilization for more clarity on the subject.
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@sodiumso6015 Do you think human life has value?
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@sodiumso6015 The irony of your comment isn't lost on me, having answered none of my questions.
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@mariec3733 You're a triggered and established activist troll, and exposing you as such has rendered you and your opinions void
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@mariec3733 A typo
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@mariec3733 Already have Many many times. Who are you trying to impress? Repeating the same questions isn't going to get you different answers. If you don't understand the answers, That's all on you.
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@markusbaker1161 prove that regardless, they're anything other than men
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@markusbaker1161 That's exactly the point. Their feelings don't change that
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@markusbaker1161 you argue like chatbots
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@markusbaker1161 The logic it takes to say that someone who has a host of other behavioral/mental disorders (as nearly all dealing with transgenderism do) and is willing to mutilate themselves in irreversible fashion to achieve a status wherein they're still dozens of times more likely to commit sui**de ISN'T mental illness, is amazingly twisted. Insert any other condition and any other incessant desire to self-harm and there would be no dispute whatsoever.
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@markusbaker1161 Your permission isn't required
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No
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No, unethical medical professionals did that
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@LJ-ld1lp Looks like you need the advise of a better nutritionist, and dietician.
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So they can pretend they're another type of woman
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@conor.3875 It's irrelevant, as there is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females
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The vast majority of kids in the foster care system aren't newborns and are there because their parents are having issues with the court. You sure are doing a lot of mental gymnastics to ignore the fact that the child which is in the womb is there because the mother facilitated herself becoming pregnant, when choosing to risk an unwanted pregnancy, by engaging in the one and only act which causes her avoidable dilemma. It is a living, developing human-- unlike a bacteria, so you fail to justify terminating the life of the innocent. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one driven like a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences? Innocent baby's shouldn't be terminated because adults can't act responsibly. You don’t want a baby, use a condom or take the pill, Or keep your legs together.
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@TheLegendOfRandy Nope, you got all that wrong too. shocker :face-blue-smiling:
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@Maksie0 What's the supposed swindle??
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They do-- in significantly higher percentages than the average. I submit for a reason, and it isn't because they're well-balanced individuals
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Wherever they're convicted of crime, would be a reasonable assumption. Some have been relocated to the women's prison however, and some of those resulte in pregnant female inmates. They belong in prison with the men, as prison is supposed to be punishment for crime.
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Narcissist + low IQ + Psych disconnect = Blossom
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@Ipernova Ding, Ding, Ding... We have a WINNER! 1 Million up votes
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What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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Your thoughts appear disjointed. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the lack of any actual virtue in your incoherent whinging
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And locker rooms, changing rooms, showers, and prisons too?? No
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That dude is totally unhinged
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@catboyash get a clue
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@markusbaker1161 The biological science is already established, validating my statements. The psych science validates my statements as well. Dissociative disorders are clearly defined as those involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self. 😏😮🧐 If you have a clue, you certainly have gone out of your way to hide any evidence that would support that claim
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@markusbaker1161 I am not confused at all. You're the one that asserts with ZERO evidence to prove it-- that calling men "transgender" is somehow relevant or makes them something other than men.
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@markusbaker1161 Me either... They're males, generally presenting as females and/or 'other than men', and females-- generally presenting as males or 'other than female'. Still the same as they were when they were born. You haven't made the case for why someone who's XY should be considered XX (As would necessarily be the case, to substantiate the statement that trans women are women) or trans XX. Why not try being relevant for a change?
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@silpsizzup1299 If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Once a dude, always a dude
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Besides restrooms, there are dressing rooms, locker rooms, sports teams and prisons. It's unadulterated misogyny. Those are men, they will always be men. Their imaginations and subjective personality traits and temperament don't change the fact that those trans women aren't trans anything-- They're men
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Islamophobe
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@niamhharikasen7848 Are you? You brought it up
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@kory4370 YOU brought it up, not me.
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@janeodumusi8274 How do you think the baby got in there, but for a woman choosing to risk her own totally avoidable dilemma-- when facilitating it, by choosing to engage in the one and only activity that could actually cause her totally avoidable dilemma?
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@athena6961 No, but if they do-- they clearly KNOW they're risking themselves getting pregnant, by indulging in the one act which causes their totally avoidable self-inflicted dilemma. How smart is that? (Not very)
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@athena6961 I'll try to break it down for you... Life is valuable, not disposable, and advocating in favor of terminating children is devoid of virtue, honor, and morality. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one of a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences? 🦗🦗🦗 Innocent baby's shouldn't be terminated because adults can't act responsibly
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@mariec3733 Your documented history of trolling, obfuscating, answering nothing, obtuse intentional misunderstanding and making false claims while refuting nothing whatsoever, while failing to comprehend the answers and comments provided, is a matter of record.
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Only pseudo-science and science fiction... They say gender identity and sex are separate, but haven't been able to justify encroaching on spaces designated segregated based on sex, as an entitlement. Not even close They also haven't come close yet, to being able to justify the expectation that just because they present and identify in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must treat them as though they're the opposite sex. It's absurd
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There is no such thing as trans. There are males and females. That's it...
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@Maksie0 You haven't made the case for why someone who's XY should be considered XX (As would necessarily be the case, to substantiate the statement that trans women are women) or trans XX. Why not try being relevant for a change?
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Make no mistake the trans-activist ideology is anti-women
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Intersex isn't a gender either. It's a birth defect/Anomaly-- and the exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule; They prove the rule-- hence being the exceptions. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect/Anomaly... That's it
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@ILovePink-x1v Pronouns are objective, you don't get to choose your own. They're inappropriately attempting to rename and recategorize the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence tomboys, effeminate males, or butch females), "Gender"-- and that's just incorrect
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@whitewhitewhite2446 🤣😂
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@cloroxistoxic2077 😏
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@toritori5835 That's a job for a therapist, not a sound engineer
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@toritori5835 I actually couldn't care less. I'm just saying-- misophonia isn't something a sound engineer will be able to assist you with in any meaningful way, as a remedy for your alleged condition. The problem you have with your 'Look at me' commentary in an attempt to virtue signal, is the total absence of any actual virtue in any of your whinging
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Not Hardly... That doesn't address women's scholarships, sports, sports teams, showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, restrooms, sorority dorm rooms, and prisons.
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They realize-- after they chop off their properly functioning parts, that they were lied to.
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Who is responsible for preventing unwanted pregnancy, more than those who can actually become pregnant? Who's in charge of risking pregnancy by facilitating that condition, in the first place?
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@veronica7459 It's called parenting. Gaslight harder
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@RotisserieiJamie To devalue women, their considerations and desires. The prerequisite for being a woman is being born female. That's a biological category, which is fixed and permanent. A woman is an adult, human, female-- and those trans women aren't that and never will be that.
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@markusbaker1161 Because you say so? LOL What makes you the authority or spokesperson for the entire trans community?
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@markusbaker1161 Black's law dictionary defines a woman as an adult, human, female. They're valid people. What are you talking about? The desire to be recognized as a construct? I recognize those men who you refer to as trans women as men portraying themselves as a social construct
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@markusbaker1161 You said gender is a mere construct, so it doesn't really matter does it? Similar to clowns-- trans women are a social construct, played by men who wish their clown disguise hid that they were men 🤪🤡 🌎
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@markusbaker1161 You're the one that insists on calling men trans women, and saying trans women are women. It doesn't matter That doesn't invalidate the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species being male and female, now does it? Trans women are a social construct played by men, who believe that altering their appearance will hide that they are men. If you want to play along, go for it. It's cosplay and LARPing gone unchecked and unrestrained, imo
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@markusbaker1161 While failing to recognize that they're still men, regardless of their subjective identity. It does matter. It matters when it comes to women's rights, that they're men
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@markusbaker1161 There are 27k comments here, including you and you cared enough to argue for sport about it-- adding to that number, even going so far as to ask what my point is as well. The point is lost on you
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Wait... They said gender is fluid and disconnected from biology, so how then, is there male privilege? It's incoherent
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The prerequisite to becoming a woman is-- being born female, and trans-women aren't that. They're men, and are in no way entitled to access to women's private spaces.
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@markusbaker1161 Not everywhere. You seem to have a vested interest in suggesting that men, when presenting as women-- should be granted access to women's spaces and that women should be okay with that.
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Half the panel are women who are apparently attempting to claim a masculine status
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Clearly not obvious to those with single-digit IQ's-- who make up a significant portion of those who buy into this incoherent trans-human ideology.
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@krasmasov6852 Troll
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@mollyvirgo4357 Surgeries on babies in the womb-- proves otherwise. If the mother's life is at risk, that's another story-- but don't pretend that is the default standard.
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@eveliinahannele With only 700 pregnancy related deaths in the USA in 2020, it is an EXTREMELY small risk. You're reaching
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@bgos4727 That's wrong.
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@eveliinahannele because it's totally false. Babies in the womb can feel stress and pain, and it's observable with their rise in heart rate among other things...You have access to the internet. Do some research. You seem to be an activist troll with a ghost account that you're posting from
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@ussypussyfussy We've established that they can and do feel pain. Try to keep up
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Well, of course-- But liking someone isn't required, is it?
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@isabellamontana6992 I'm thinking, Not at all required, nor relevant.
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@gigi2502 That's nice... How is that relevant or substantive at all?
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@gigi2502 I am saying since it doesn't really matter if she likes him or not, the reason she doesn't like him is rather irrelevant. What don't You understand?
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@isabellamontana6992 You are not forced to have unprotected sex, if you want to chase pleasure, you have to bear responsibility for the possible outcomes. No innocent life should be terminated due to the lack of responsibility among adults.
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@73748 So, you're not in favor of others selecting the pronouns you choose because they should respect the way you talk? Respect is reserved for that which is respectable and it's earned, not something that should be presumed to be owed for any other reason that having been earned in the 1st place.
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@73748 Treating them like royalty?? What are you talking about?? Actually, their preferred pronouns are not used when speaking to them, rather are used when speaking about them to another and pronouns are objective, not subjective nor reflective of how someone perceives themselves, rather how they're perceived by others-- so it's not correct then either. I respect those who avoid unwanted pregnancies, for actually avoiding them
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@mariec3733 Define phobia
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@mariec3733 Example?
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@73748 It is, that's why I don't give a crap about what someone's preferred pronouns are, in defiance of objective reality-- in favor of their preferred selection based on their subjective feelings, wanting others to perceive them as they perceive themselves
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@wiggeltje There are no trans anyone... All women are born female, all men are born male and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference, or a costume
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There are males and females. This is not a complicated equation. How are they-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? Why should those men who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria be granted access to women's private spaces?
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@markusbaker1161 I've already exposed the idiocy of your narrative's claims that trans women are women to be ridiculous I know you haven't answered with integrity or honesty, and I don't presume that you will.
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@markusbaker1161 Cry Harder! Just know that in the future, your insistence on preferred pronoun use will be rejected with an I don't care, a smile, and a quick dismissal
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@markusbaker1161 Yes I do. No, they aren't. If that were true, you wouldn't need back up for your insane ideas. Cry all you want. The narrative is asinine and insane
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Intersex disorders aren't some enigma that breaks down our evolutionary and anthropological understanding of sex; they are genetic disorders-- already perfectly explained by a much simpler model of biology, that isn't founded in baseless speculation adherent to a politically charged narrative. I'm contesting the notion that edge cases invalidate categorical classification as a whole. We don't throw specific classification to the wayside because some individual animals are infertile; likewise, our understanding of sex isn't blown out of the water by people with genetic disorders. I called them edge cases, but they're hardly even that; they're only normatively anomalous, they're still perfectly easy to explain-- in terms of genotype and phenotype, and they still have a dichotomous sex. The only exception you could possibly make would be Swyer syndrome, except that too is perfectly explained under the genotype/phenotype model.
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@markusbaker1161 🤡
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@markusbaker1161 Grow up
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@markusbaker1161 Congratulations
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@markusbaker1161 No worries. You do you. I'm not going to ignore what I can observe with my own eyes, and promote make believe, or cater to feelings-- by pretending that the identity of people who identify as something they're not in reality, is valid. They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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@markusbaker1161 Not relevant and not a refutation
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@markusbaker1161 If you refuted anything, it must've been using invisible ink, because there's no evidence anywhere of you doing any such thing
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@markusbaker1161 LOL-- They also said wear a mask to prevent the transmission of airborne viruses, which is contrary to the medical peer-reviewed studies. Make of that what you will. Go get your boosters
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@markusbaker1161 Those men are just not that which they present themselves as, but If you're fooled into believing that they are or just want to pretend they are, nothing is stopping you. That's on You.
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@markusbaker1161 Those are men. You can call them whatever you want. They're still men
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@markusbaker1161 Still desperate for my attention. SO cringe
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@markusbaker1161 Boring...
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@markusbaker1161 Is that why you dismiss women's rights to privacy-- because it bores you?
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@markusbaker1161 Every time you mock them, by pretending their rights to privacy are mutable-- just because men claim to be women
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Dude is a moron w/ psych issues. Not a great combo
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@freedommatters7677 The solution to avoid a unwanted pregnancy is who's responsibility/obligation?
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@freedommatters7677 Who's in charge of preventing an unwanted pregnancy, more than the women who know that birth control isn't 100% effective, but risk it and facilitate it?
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@freedommatters7677 And Still-- No answer to my apparently too tough of a question for you, which isn't answered at all by your previous comment
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No. There's nothing negative about recognizing that trans-humans are not that which they claim to be. It just makes them observant
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@Maksie0 You need your hard drive to be reformatted
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Well, Show me someone who values life and advocates for the ability to terminate life, and I'll show you a hypocrite
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Blossom reminds me of President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho
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@Maksie0 Cope harder
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@Maksie0 1+1=2 There is only male and female
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@mariec3733 Still trolling and making a spectacle of yourself by making substance free comments. Up your game junior
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@brendamartinez2236 I know... That's what I said; they're not synonymous w/ gender. The point is, people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. How is that not a delusional, dissociative state, by definition? One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament (neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), as if or as though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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No one is saying you can't express yourself as you wish. You can identify as a Klingon if you choose-- BUT, that doesn't mean that others will perceive you as you perceive yourself. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do.
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@Haven161 Not much of a refutation, and totally ignoring the questions posed, but that's sort of typical for those on your side of the debate isle. No worries. I'm not under the impression that when it comes to moral questions such as these, that there's a place for a meeting of the minds between those who value life and those who don't
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@krasmasov6852 I know you've established nothing but your own ignorance, and you've refuted nothing whatsoever
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@krasmasov6852 Vivid imagination you have, troll, but like I said-- You have difficulty with basic stuff like pronouns, and deciphering the difference between males and females-- so I don't expect much from you in the way of analysis and intelligent conclusions.
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There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the use of 'Cis' entirely useless and irrelevant, so how do you figure?
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@Maksie0 f00lish troll bot
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@Maksie0 Intersex is a birth defect, where the individual has organs of both sexes male & female (Often non-functional) and they do not present another sex in the binary, and for that reason-- they don't invalidate the binary at all. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), with gender
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@kensredemption If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? In other words: If a girl, trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (supposedly the reason for transitioning), How can gender be fluid and separate from biology? Answer: It can't
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@TheLegendOfRandy How do you think the baby got in there? The woman facilitated her own dilemma. Get Real
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Because they're women
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@LJ-ld1lp And yet it was the women being bitchy...
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@LJ-ld1lp I mean, the whiners on the panel are all women, regardless of their over-the-top attempt to disguise it
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@Maksie0 No, they're confused dudes with a quirky fashion sense who have difficulty coping with reality, as it is
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@mariec3733 The notion that men can become women-- isn't real.
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@maynardewm When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect, Psych Disorder... That's it, so take your pick. Oh, and No, intersex isn't another gender in the binary, it's a birth defect
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@terraguttierez2996 It illustrates perfectly, how long male and female have been established. Their 'truth' is an illusion and isn't based in reality-- making it a lie. They're imposters
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@krasmasov6852 You've failed to persuade, and you've failed to make your case.
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@krasmasov6852 You've made no case to support your position. You've been conflating the variance in personality types and temperament, neither of which are gender exclusive-- and have been inappropriately using them synonymously with gender.
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@krasmasov6852 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female-- respectively. The ideology is inappropriately conflating the variability in temperament and personality traits (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys)-- as gender, and that's a huge error on their part-- for those who embrace the narrative
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Are vegans typically flat earthers?
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@whitewhitewhite2446 Hmm... I wouldn't have thought they were Bible believers
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@mariec7352 I'm not a vegan
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@mariec3733 I understand why you believe that-- it's still incorrect. The fact that my replies have been censored isn't my fault. If I were the one who could get pregnant, I would realize that my pro-choice position was prior to conception, because afterwards come the otherwise avoidable consequences, and that I am who is responsible for my own actions. You seem to flee from personal accountability like it's the plague. What's up with that?
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@shhh.im.thinking3069 No, respect is earned-- and it's reserved for that which is actually respectable, or it'd be meaningless. If your identity relies on others denying objective reality, then your identity isn't valid. Being observant of objective reality isn't hateful. It's just being observant of reality. Men cannot become women, and vice versa. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman and that's being born female, and those dudes weren't.
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@YoVeganO Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh
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They conflate gender (There are only 2 male/female), with gender roles (Which vary from culture to culture, society to society and country to country-- BUT without exception ALL address the roles of males and females in those societies,cultures and countries) and then they conflate gender, gender roles and personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) as though they're synonymous, and they just aren't
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Put into perspective, rape only accounts for 1% of all abortion cases, so it's more of a mole hill than a mountain in the grand scheme of things
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That is incorrectly presuming their capacity for "intelligent" thought
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Evidence?
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Truth is not subjective. If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? In other words: If a girl, trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (supposedly the reason for transitioning), How can gender be fluid and separate from biology? Answer: It can't
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@onyxhammond5358 The fact that those who are confused about which restroom is appropriate, while simultaneously whinging about a white, male-dominated patriarchy at the root of a gender pay gap, while insisting that gender is fluid-- not realizing the idiocy of their commentary, is really not a surprise. "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@onyxhammond5358 I'm arguing that the narrative is incoherent, and illustrating how. How is that confusing for you?
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@onyxhammond5358 I appreciate your focus on my choice of vocabulary, but it would be more productive if you addressed the relevant focus of my comments which is to say that, the narrative suggests that gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment-- is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity. Both can't be true
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@onyxhammond5358 It doesn't, unless you insist that I and the rest of the world participate in your gender fantasies. When you insist, I have to remind you that your identity isn't more important than anyone else's. I identify as someone who doesn't have to participate in the transgender fantasies of mentally confused or intellectually stunted people. My question is genuine too, and it find it telling that those on your side of the narrative run away, rather than addressing it honestly. The narrative suggests that gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity. Both can't be true, showing the narrative is incoherent
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They've gotten it totally wrong on gender. Gender (There are 2) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Then, they inappropriately conflate gender, personality traits and temperament-- as though they're synonymous and they are not. They should learn the differences. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate male and female. Then, they conflate men and women. It's totally incoherent nonsense that they're peddling
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@mariec3733 It's really frustrating, when I spend the time to indulge answering you and the damned answers get censored. They're visible when logged in, but not when logged out. I don't know if it's the youtube censors or you lagging the comments, but in Ximena's thread, I answered you questions, and they are visible even when not logged in, so that's my best suggestion.
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@mariec3733 #1. Pregnancy requires two, so it's not a yes or no answer.
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@mariec3733 #3 Deductive reasoning suggests that if abortion were totally illegal, less people would get them, as the access to them would be severely diminished-- as most women wouldn't go to such extremes as to attempt to do procedures on themselves, and the result would be a net reduction
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@mariec3733 #4 - Because then they'd be seahorses
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@mariec3733 1. Yes, only men can impregnate women. 3. I was using an analogy to make a point, not quoting a stat.
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@mariec3733 2 - I never said men are not responsible whatsoever for a pregnancy that they caused. Obviously they are half of the equation biologically. Objectively that can't happen unless a woman grants them access and risks it.
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@mariec3733 4 - I was suggesting men are big babies, and couldn't handle it-- so would avoid it like the plague
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@mariec3733 5 - I am not aware of how a fetus, who relies on the mother to sustain it while in the womb, could continue to grow and develop, if the mother dies. Any sources for that? That's AMAZING
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@mariec3733 1 - It was not one person's doing, but I helped, though she did most of the heavy lifting-- so to speak, also a figure of speech. 3 - The million number was not a stat. It is a figure of speech saying one in a million-- meaning rare, not illustrating an actual million
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@mariec3733 7 - I really don't know what you're referring to. You mean like charged for the medical costs, or charged with a crime???
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@mariec3733 6 - I didn't say abortion is never justified. I said terminating the lives of the innocent is never justified but for the case where the mother's life is in imminent peril. Again--we've gone over that ad nauseam already.
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@mariec3733 2 - Having already covered that ad nauseam with you, I didn't think I needed to cover it AGAIN, but for the record. Rape is the only case where a woman isn't 100% in control of avoiding an unwanted pregnancy
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@mariec3733 4- ?? Impossible to say with any degree of certainty with hypotheticals-- Obviously 5 - Can you give an example of a pregnant woman dying, and her child in the womb of 20 +/- weeks or less-- surviving? That's AMAZING
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@mariec3733 8 - You want me to prove a negative? ("How is a woman not smart"??) That's not how it works... How is she smart, if she wants to avoid an avoidable pregnancy, and she chooses to facilitate the means of achieving the avoidable-- then gets pregnant? Nobody forced her to do that, and that's how she's "not smart". If she were smart, she'd have actually avoided the avoidable. Thwarting her own wishes isn't smart, in my view.
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@mariec3733 7 - I haven't heard of that. Charged w/ a crime for a miscarriage? Example?
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@mariec3733 5 - Well, what do you imagine happening to a fetus (20ish weeks or less) in the womb-- if the mother dies before it's born?
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@mariec3733 3 - It's a figure of speech like saying, "I've already gone over this a million times"; Not a literal million
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@mariec3733 1 - No, I didn't. I said 'only men can impregnate women'. There's a not-so-subtle difference worth noting. Creating a pregnancy is a 2-person job
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@mariec3733 Conversations are 2-way streets. You have some pending questions in my responses that I'd appreciate you answer, and some corrections that you've failed to acknowledge. Just 1 saved would justify it.
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@mariec3733 Try logging out, and then go look. They're ALL there
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@mariec3733 That just doesn't ring true. ALL of my answers and responses are visible when logged out, as well as when logged in
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@mariec3733 Then, your comprehension deficit is beyond remedy. No worries. I will be ignoring you from here on. I've made my position crystal clear, for those interested-- with the comprehension capacity to decipher it. I appreciate the opportunity to expose you as a troll, and use your comments to counter with a different perspective, for those interested-- to be able to contemplate the topic.
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@mariec3733 T R I G G E R E D... The baby's body, which the woman facilitated by engaging in the one and only act which actually causes their unwanted pregnancy-- isn't the woman's to terminate. That's the point Don't go away mad... Just go away
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@mariec3733 Those with eyes to see and a sound mind to comprehend, will see that I've already answered and you have not. How do you figure it fixes or undoes a violent crime?
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@mariec3733 You still haven't answered My question in the original post... You think, just because you're waiting that somehow it creates some sense of occasion that anyone should believe is relevant? That's funny Out of morbid curiosity, what question are you waiting to be answered?
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@mariec3733 I already told you, it doesn't eliminate the trauma caused by a violent attacker, but I've seen no evidence to support the idea that it does. Got any?
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@mariec3733 The most recent one is, Got any evidence to support your position, related to my comment above? The one in the OP-- Just scroll up and re-read it
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@mariec3733 They're not the one's who choose to risk being pregnant. Simple as that
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@mariec7352 Looks like it Sucks to be you. Once again, you didn't comprehend a single response given. If you don't care about a woman's culpability in preventing her own unwanted pregnancy, why and how does a man's contribution matter? Why does personal accountability and responsibility appear to trigger a response from you that seeks to reassign blame and accountability?
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100 up votes
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@imnotnotgameiacmaniac5327 Trans is the construct. Cope Harder
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@imnotnotgameiacmaniac5327 It does, when they say a trans woman is a woman. :face-blue-smiling:
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They choose to call an apple an orange, and then act as if that somehow affects the nature of the apple, despite not affecting the nature or the apple nor the orange. koo kkoo 4 coacoa puffs
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Objective biological realities are not up for debate. Look, If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@TastiiCakes87 It wasn't meant as a refutation to anything you said. I was merely presenting additional information to consider re: the incoherent trans ideological narrative, for those interested.
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That is a congenital disorder
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@Etlr22 No. That is a physical genetic issue while trans is a psych issue
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@conor.3875 It's not the 'thing' that you're peddling-- at all. Gender-- There are 2 male and female. You conflate personality and temperament with gender. Then, you conflate gender, personality and temperament with gender roles. Then, you conflate male with female, men with women, and objective reality with subjective fiction. There is only one kind of woman, and they're all born female. Now, you know
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@conor.3875 I reject the trans ideological terminology all together. There are people. They are male or female, respectively. There are segments of each who suffer with various physical and/or psych disorders-- none of which make them anything other than males or females, respectively.
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@Etlr22 It's a genetic birth defect, not another gender invalidating the binary dichotomy of all mammals. They only ever present with male or female anatomy, respectively. Not a 3rd gender
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Rather-- the lack there of
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You're supposed to affirm their self-perception, regardless of it being contrary to objective reality. ZERO F~cks given about their delusional labels
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@hell0daisy193 Nope! Men cannot become women and vice versa. When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect, Psych Disorder... That's it, so take your pick. Oh, and No, intersex isn't another gender in the binary, it's a birth defect
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@hell0daisy193 Tell it to your therapist. There's nothing phobic about recognizing that you're not that which you claim to be-- It merely makes me observant, recognizing that you're FOS
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@Sirena And I decide which pronouns to describe my perceptions. I don't perceive them as they perceive themselves.
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And they don't get in the cage w/ pro male fighters in the same weight class for a reason
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@technoloverish NEWSFLASH: Science is not a consensus, and there's no such thing as trans. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after.
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@technoloverish They're LARPing at BEST. Get a Clue
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Yes, and while unborn babies are not receiving oxygen through their lungs, they are nevertheless receiving a steady supply through the umbilical cord. They begin to breathe - take in oxygen - at conception.
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@mariec3733 Look, you have a difficult time deciphering the differences between males and females. Your comprehension capacity is severely limited and it's why you're dismissed as less than relevant
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@diallo9668 Sure it is
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Observing that someone is not the sex which they claim to be isn't being a bully.
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There are people, and they're born male or female. There are minority segments of each that are born with physical birth defects, psych disorders and some with both.
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@ScizzoringGirlz I just laugh at your confused, indoctrination. You look and sound ridiculous. There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are
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Don't discount stoicism
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@Maksie0 I just laugh at your confused, indoctrination. You look and sound ridiculous. There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are
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Gender dysphoria is a distressing condition. We have known for a long time that it is associated with other psychiatric disorders such as depression, and increased rate of self-delete attempts. The surgery and medical treatment is not perfect. It is thus not surprising that this group of patients will continue to suffer from stress-related psychiatric disorders. There might be lingering professional and relational problems. It is also possible (but unproven) that gender dysphoria is somehow etiologically related to depression. In that case, fixing the first with a cure would not automatically fix the latter.
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@Maksie0 Save it, and instead--savor the rejection
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@nathanonofre7349 But all of the trans activists who publicize their incoherent ideological narratives-- DO
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Because that doesn't give them the coping mechanisms to deal with the adversity in life that's inevitable. Would you affirm an anorexic's desire to lose more weight? I would hope not
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@Liberty5024 Unless the mother's life is in imminent peril, it isn't healthcare. It's the opposite
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More substance free comments. Who could've predicted that? rhetorical /S
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@psycore600 wow
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Men vs women. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females, making their use of cis a slur, as if to suggest otherwise.
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The tendency to be emotionally reactive is however, a female tendency
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@outofbousystem4270 Not according to frontiers in psychology where they have a study on 'Gender Differences in Personality across the Ten Aspects of the Big Five' addressing the measurable and notable variance between men and women cross-culturally
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@krasmasov6852 I never suggested otherwise... What's your point?
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@mariec3733 Ya, trans is a cult term used to pretend that there's another kind of woman other than those born female-- BUT there isn't
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@h24812h 🎯
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Wrong
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@amberfirexx9 Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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As if there's any other kind of woman, but biological. How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition, and are then considered "rational"?
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All who menstruate are females
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@eveliinahannele Being that the mother is in charge of her body prior to conception, the prevention is her responsibility. There's just no getting away from that fact
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@eveliinahannele Since when have you been interested in anything being relevant?
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@eveliinahannele I can't be responsible for your reading comprehension deficit. For someone who isn't interested in anything I have to say, you sure do go out of your way to comment and ask questions. You certainly don't answer questions which challenge your assertions. Too many examples in the comment section verifying what I'm saying, that reduce your assertions to the realm of the absurd
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@eveliinahannele You asked me if men were responsible for women's pregnancies and I did answer you. I said, "In the case of rape, definitely. In the rest of cases (the other 99% of cases), how are women not the responsible party, for risking their body's?" And you ran away and never answered me back. I don't know what the other question you're referring to is, but what's stopping you from answering me??
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@TheLegendOfRandy Depends on the family planning goal, wouldn't you say?
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@mariec3733 Your comment wasn't the comment I was responding to, and your substitution for the question they asked, isn't what I was addressing. Pretending that it should've been is showing you to be a triggered antagonist looking for something to complain about. How would a woman have conceived, without choosing to risk an unwanted pregnancy-- in the 1st place?
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Then, Quit facilitating unwanted children. The power is with women to avoid their own self-inflicted dilemmas, as the gatekeepers of their own chastity.
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@TheScarletteWhisper There's a not so subtle line between showing emotions and being emotionally unhinged from reality while doing it
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@markusbaker1161 Of course you think that... Does one have to be a professional paratrooper to understand that 4 out of 10 parachutes not opening are horrible odds? Answer: No, you just have to have a functional prefrontal cortex, and the ability to navigate common sense, and logic. Get your 5th booster, and go run some laps
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@markusbaker1161 Your inability to cope with analogies is what it is. I'm a retired Behavior Modification Specialist, and am finding your attention seeking behavior interesting. You seem starved for attention, and conflict. Have you always had trouble with appropriate interpersonal interactions?
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@markusbaker1161 Well, the analogies seem to cause you angst and confusion. Having access to the studies, one only need a functional reading comprehension capacity to read what they say. Why do you think a 40% rate of self-termination-- even after transition illustrates an acceptable, successful treatment program?
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@markusbaker1161 No, I said it was nearly 10x's higher than the average
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@markusbaker1161 Read the studies. The average rate is around 4%, while those after transition is around 40%. I'm not going to do a full breakdown here, for you. The censors will delete it. I've tried-- so, you'll have to do your own homework
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@Maksie0 No, them offing themselves is making it impossible for them to live
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@Maksie0 🖕Take your own advice
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It's incoherent madness from start to finish.
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@vorpal22 Your reading comprehension deficit is noted. You're dismissed
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@vorpal22 The irony of you claiming my refutation of your single digit IQ comment that a fetus is a parasite doesn't exist, while claiming irony-- isn't lost on me, and yes it is delicious. You've established nothing but your own ignorance and have refuted nothing whatsoever. But that's ok... you can blame your ignorance and incompetence.
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@vorpal22 BTW, you never did answer my question... coincidence?? Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can "choose" to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, don't? Don't run away again like a coward
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Women who offer themselves up to men for sex, are the catalyst for their own avoidable dilemma. The intellectual gymnastics that SO MANY go through, to avoid responsibly for their own action is stunning. Women know what causes pregnancy, and so-- have no one to blame for their unwanted pregnancy but themselves, when they facilitate the one and only act which causes their avoidable dilemma-- the fault is no one but theirs. Own It
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@nathanmccoy9188 So lame
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It is, however-- easy to argue that there is only 1 kind of woman, and that they're all born females
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@clxsev8185 Achieving or avoiding the avoidable unwanted pregnancy is ALL in a woman's control. Is it not?
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@clxsev8185 Obviously, in the case of a criminally, violent act like that, there's no consent from a woman-- BUT, in the other 99% of cases where it is not a rape, the onus is Obviously-- on women
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"It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@justyana488 No... Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then your identity is not valid.
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@nottheaveragecomment WRONG! They're practitioners, not researchers
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You spelled m0r0n incorrectly
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@izabellamoss325 No worries. It's not rare when discussing incoherent ideologies such as this one, that things can get lost in translation
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They're ghouls
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*He is totally unhinged from reality, and isn't any sort of 'she'
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Half the panel are women. The delusional women pretending to be men, and getting upset at not being recognized for their preferred disguise vs who and what they actually are, is what's funny to me
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*He is a psych case
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How so?
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@saintshrooms9424 It's seems the problem is they didn't buy what the women were selling. A woman is an adult, female, human and has XY chromosomes. How is this confusing?
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@colew9966 That's not even as deep as a baby spoon.
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If they're in an asylum okay... BUT-- that doesn't address Prisons, Locker rooms, Dressing Rooms, Sports, Sports teams at all
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Not a surprise, considering that they're still women
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Ikr-- So many are confused about the fact that women can't become men and women can't become women
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If you don't want to risk an a totally avoidable and unwanted pregnancy, quit facilitating your own dilemma
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@TheLegendOfRandy Exactly my point... If she doesn't want to risk an unwanted pregnancy, she shouldn't be facilitating it, and being that she's in control of her choices, she has no one to blame for her dilemma-- but herself
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@TheLegendOfRandy Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can "choose" to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, and poor family planning don't?
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@whitewhitewhite2446 💯
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@TheLegendOfRandy Now, Go sprint some laps for an hour
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To believe individuals can have 100% control over their identity in society, how they are seen by others, in interaction with, and in relation to, society/the world/physical existence is a fool's errand. It is a delusional understanding of reality and existence.
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@Ey3_s0cEt.4.20. That's wrong. Get a refund from your school
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TOTALLY WEAK and cowardly. Disingenuous activists pushing an agenda-- is what they are
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The self termination rates are, nonetheless-- still MUCH higher than the general population, indicating an underlying issue that doesn't appear to be resolved with affirmation based treatment
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@ksmith1728 The question is, what is the correlation with the much higher rates of self deletes among the entire trans community, compared to the general population, that clearly-- affirmation-based treatment protocols proves to be woefully insufficient?
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@thankyouforbeingafriend9632 Yes! There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female
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@aeiou4089 Well, it occurs to me that first and foremost, they don't seem to have difficulty deciphering the differences between males and females
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@markusbaker1161 Is it? hmmm....
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@markusbaker1161 You assumption is noted, and your conclusion is feeble. Your acceptance isn't required, but thanks anyway
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@markusbaker1161 You are heavily invested in arguing for sport. Try therapy. It'd be really easy for a competent adult to prove what I said was incorrect-- if I was-- but I'm not, so you can't. You lose
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@markusbaker1161 You lose
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@markusbaker1161 Tell yourself whatever lies you want. I've been asking questions, scrutinizing your conclusions and statements contrasting them against the available stats and data-- and you've not yet substantiated your position. No worries. I already knew you wouldn't and couldn't.
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It's a symptom of their psych disorders
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Men have no reference whatsoever, re: what it 'feels' like to be a woman
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@Maksie0 Refutation?
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@markusbaker1161 I'm aware, however as typically is the case-- you and they haven't exactly forthcoming when asked to provide answers to questions, or evidence to support your assertions, SO-- I figured I ask and see if they would/could provide evidence to the contrary proving their assertion false.
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@markusbaker1161 Your integrity is zero
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@markusbaker1161 Apparently not. The comments are being shadow banned by some integrity free individual who doesn't think the truth should be spoken, because the narratives they advocate do not stand up to scrutiny. That there are those who run with them, don't invalidate reality.
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@markusbaker1161 You look like you're trying to be provocative and antagonistic, to satisfy an anti-social, attention-seeking disorder. I don't need to prove it. You've proven it to me. They're men is a dress-- Not women. It's just as simple as that. Their claimed identities of being women, don't make them women. Those who identify as transgender are still men in cosplay, they're not any kind of woman. Your suggestion otherwise doesn't invalidate reality. They're still men, and suggesting otherwise is what's absurd. They are not women, and shouldn't be infiltrating women's spaces like restrooms, sports teams, locker rooms or in prisons, because they're Men
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@markusbaker1161 You can continue to write that, but it doesn't make it so. I'm not upset at all. My life is AWESOME! You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and have not justified allowing men to infiltrate women's private places, because of their subjective identity claims. Why do you hate and disrespect women so much?
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@markusbaker1161 Why would you advocate that men should be able to infiltrate the private spaces of women, like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? How is that demonstrating any respect or consideration for women or their rights?? You keep on dodging, ducking, dipping, and diving away from answering the questions.
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@markusbaker1161 You need better material. I recognize that they're misgendering themselves. There are people. They are male or female. Segments of each present with various physical and psych disorders-- Some with both. Why should men (regardless of you categorizing them as transgender or renaming them Trans-women or Cupcake)-- they're still men, be granted access to women's private spaces, based on their subjective identity claims, which aren't validated by objective reality?? Nothing still? Shocker... 🙄 If your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must validate and affirm your identity, contrary to objective reality-- Than your identity is not valid.
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@markusbaker1161 You're a woman hater. Your comments are less than useless
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@markusbaker1161 There's no need; You already have, to my satisfaction. You may go now
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@markusbaker1161 I haven't what?
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@markusbaker1161 Your failure to recognize that I said "YOU" proved it to my satisfaction, shows that you're just not paying attention
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@monicadaniels784 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the use of 'cis' totally irrelevant and useless. Your feelings about wishing you were the opposite sex, doesn't make you the opposite sex.
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I don't think anyone is against people being able to express themselves, so much as drawing a line when they expect others to validate their self-expression despite their delusional assertion that they are the sex which they claim to be, and are clearly not
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@saintshrooms9424 Objectively-- a woman is an adult, female, human and she has XY chromosomes. The trans-narrative is inappropriately attempting to rename and recategorize variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive), 'Gender'
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@Maksie0 The Lady's room is reserved for females. Try to follow the bouncing ball back to the men's room dear
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@Malana84 I'm aware. They aren't trans anything. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Those dudes weren't and will never be any kind of woman
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@Maksie0 Wrong... Totally Wrong troll bot
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They can identify as Klingons if they want to, but that doesn't make them Klingons. If one's identity requires that everyone denies objective reality to massage their feelings then-- sorry, Not sorry, that identity counter to objective reality isn't valid at all.
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There is no limit to the level of self-centered narcissism of these mentally delusional people
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@clajil_cla It definitely offends those who possess a functional moral compass
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1 Million upvotes
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Nope... Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female respectively. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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Intellectual Bankruptcy, trans-Activism, Moral relativism, and mental illness seem to go hand in hand, like different facets of the same gem. Things that make you go hmmmm, if you have a functional prefrontal cortex
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I presume there's more than 1 issue going on there. These dudes, who present as women are still males/men.
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@Maksie0 What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, costumes, or preferences. That you can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's your inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you wished they were.
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Neither are correct. Intelligent people can have conversations about important issues. It's called civilization. The fact that the world doesn't view them as they view themselves, or how they would prefer that it views them-- isn't a problem the world needs to rectify 'For' them. Just saying... Dressing up for a Comic-Con Convention doesn't actually transform human males or females into Wookies, or Klingons; Same for Drag Queens or Trans-humans
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That dude is nutz
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A dude in a dress, wearing makeup, and insisting that it's Ma'am-- doesn't make him a woman, anymore than a kid in a play wearing a dragon costume makes them a dragon-- EVEN IF they both REALLY believe it.
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@Maksie0 The one you rent
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Dude w/ a psych disorder
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That seems only to be plausible if dealing with people who don't have a grip on self-control, or who have an emotional impairment of some kind
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@Maksie0 Prove it
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2 genders... That all. They're not "trans" anything. Still Human, Still Male or Female, as they were when they were born, respectively -- just now with what amounts to an elaborate disguise in the gender binary-- more akin to a drag queen, or cosplay with a dash of psych disorder.
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@Maksie0 No-- they're dudes
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@nathanmccoy9188 Don't conflate respecting people, with affirming the delusions of the mentally ill as being synonymous
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Fixed it: This whole debate was a bunch of confused, delusional women and men speaking about reality vs the delusions of the delusional in fantasyland
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@Maksie0 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Regardless of the facts, your irrational thought process, apparently doesn't afford you the capacity to come to intelligent conclusions.
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@Maksie0 No, that's entirely incorrect. You continue to conflate gender with personality, despite them not being synonymous. Get a clue
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That dude is a psych case and is intellectually bankrupt as well, apparently
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Dwarfed by the delusions of the mentally afflicted
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@yakult9618 fyi "Tolerance will reach such a level, that intelligent people will be banned from thinking, so as not to offend the imbeciles"-- Dostoievski
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@TheLegendOfRandy No, you're saying that. Are gametes alive?' The answer is unquestionably yes; The answer to the question of whether or not that makes them 'a new unique life' is clearly No. The nuance is important
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@Liberty5024 Why, neither of those things are terminating the lives of innocent children?
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@Liberty5024 Imagine if the activists for the whole animal rights movement would stand up for the rights of unborn humans, the same way they stand up for animal's and their offspring's rights.
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That dude is intellectually vacant
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@loturzelrestaurant Only 2 genders-- Male and Female. Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@GrahamChapman Gender is not disconnected from sex.
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Make better choices and avoid the avoidable
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@conor.3875 That wasn't a very articulate refutation. In the case of women choosing to facilitate their own risk of pregnancy-- there is no one else to blame for their unwanted pregnancy-- but them.
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@TheLegendOfRandy Your commitment to intellectually vacancy, and moral bankruptcy is consistent, but you've still failed to justify terminating the innocent in the womb
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@TheLegendOfRandy Says the fool who thinks gay sex, and people who are sterile need to worry about achieving unwanted pregnancies. Stoopid isn't the new 'Smart'. Get a clue
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Better still, use the correct restroom. If you are a male you will always be a male, so stay out of women's private spaces
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Gender (There are 2 male/female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. They get it totally wrong on gender. Then, they conflate personality traits and temperament-- neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate males with females and men with women. Ya-- it's incoherent madness on their part
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It also doesn't mean that anyone else has to affirm the validity of their claims
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@agoutianimations4728 You believe a predator will respect trans restrooms, or would it be a beacon?
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@markusbaker1161 Stop talking... You already said you don't care what I have to say. Be Gone
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@markusbaker1161 Nope. You refuse to answer me, you don't get to expect answers from me, now. Ask what they meant when they posted, "I agree as a trans person, although it is sad that we even have to do that i feel its necessary for safety from potentially predators". Who are the predators they're referring to?
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@markusbaker1161 Be curious
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@markusbaker1161 Perhaps you'll learn about their disconnect from objective reality and that their claims are based in fiction, and not substantiated in reality. Any subjective identity, predicted on the notion that all of society must affirm it, contrary to objective reality-- is totally invalid
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 @markusbaker1161 One doesn't need to be a doctor to discern the difference between males and females. Get a clue
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@markusbaker1161 Tell me, why should a male, who "needs help with their mental health" be granted access to female's private spaces like dressing rooms, locker rooms, sports teams, restrooms and prisons?
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Cope harder
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They inappropriately conflate personality and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive evidenced by effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous-- and they are not. Then, they conflate gender with gender roles. Then they conflate males with females.
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Wanting to be a different gender doesn't change reality. The 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female. If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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@Maksie0 There is only one kind of woman, and they're all born female-- which eliminates the relevance of the trans/cis distinction. You need better material
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They're LARPing
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Keep it away from kids
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They should leave the parenting to the parents
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@markusbaker1161 I did take my own advice, and raise my own. What are you referring to?
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@markusbaker1161 The majority agree with me, not you
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@markusbaker1161 Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 There's no hate in recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim to present as. It just makes me observant
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@markusbaker1161 It makes me discerning
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@markusbaker1161 No, I don't. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. Chopping off body parts doesn't change one's sex/gender
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@markusbaker1161 By realizing they're male or female, respectively-- not trans anything. Same as they ever were. Now in terms of psych issues: According to a Swedish study, Long-term follow-up of transsexual persons undergoing sex reassignment surgery: cohort study in Sweden "Conclusions: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, sui***al behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."
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@markusbaker1161 2 genders my friend. They're male or female, and that doesn't change. At BEST they're female impersonators, and at worst-- they're still female impersonators.
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@markusbaker1161 No, that's not what I meant. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Personality traits, and temperament are not synonymous with gender. Intersex isn't another sex/gender in the binary. It's an extremely rare biological disorder and they only ever present with male or female genitalia, none with both sex organs fully functional.
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Of course you do... Bath tub, ocean, lake, river, swamp or swimming pool?
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@glassesyouneed6876 Mainly because they exposed the incoherence of your narrative, making you look like toddlers debating scholars
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@glassesyouneed6876 I'd prefer, if people are going to talk to me, that they do it intelligently-- BUT that's clearly not the case here.
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@Maksie0 Only in Fantasyland
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Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior traits. I mean... C'mon now. It's ludicrous
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@Erik-fn7kj They're words that have definitions. Look them up
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@Erik-fn7kj Your words-- Not my words... Y’all need more psychiatric hospitals 😂😂😂
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On a pay per view airing from a rooftop in Saudi Arabia would sell millions
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People like you, fail to grasp the fact that the vast majority of kids in the foster system aren't newborn's . They're in there because their parents are having custody issues through the court system for various reasons. There's nothing phobic, about realizing that a dude in a dress isn't that which they claim to be. That just makes people observant. Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@jessicap.8114 If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid.
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An adult, human, female.
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@maximeminassian6002 There's only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female, making the use of cis/trans intellectually vacant and useless.
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@marnellkeller6959 They are propagandists, and agent provocateurs who are aware that they're making a spectacle of themselves, pushing an agenda. The problem they have, is that life is based in objective reality and their incoherent claims and imaginations don't override the vast majority of people's ability to discern the difference between reality and their subjective imaginary wish that life was different.
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@wiggeltje It's intellectually stunted to suggest that there's another kind of woman, other than those born female
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@Maksie0 No they aren't. There are males and females. That's it! Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct. She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals specifically humans. Now you know
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Cope Harder. ALL men are born male and there are exactly ZERO exceptions.
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You realize there are male doctors and scientists who actually understand better than you, the nuances and specifics of the topic at hand?
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@Makeupme143kk Think Deeper thoughts. The ones you have illustrated aren't even as deep as a baby spoon
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@c2dajayy Too much for the single digit IQ-- to process
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@c2dajayy They won't either. They're only interested in virtue signaling. The problem they have with their virtue signaling, is the total absence of any actual 'Virtue' in any of their unhinged whinging. Not that anyone who's got half a brain in their head would believe that they'd get a coherent argument from groomer trolls or the mentally ill
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@CreativeUsernameEh How does it add the extra ribs?
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They didn't. They're still females, just now mutilated and in costume
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@CreativeUsernameEh Just seeing if anyone is paying attention. Male and Female describe our physical traits aka biology. Look, you can shove a chicken feather in your butt, and you're still not a chicken, and you have ZERO frame of reference as to how a chicken perceives anything at all, certainly not to be able to identify as a chicken. You're a dude in a dress and makeup, Or a female attempting to alter your physical appearance to mask your female traits and replace them with male traits. But Getting a nose job has the same amount of impact on ones sex and gender as a sex change-- which is ZERO. They're still a female or a male... Just intentionally mutilated Isn't it your side's narrative that gender isn't connected to biology? Well, then why the need to transition, or play dress up? crickets You can put a castrated dog in a dress, and it's still a male dog in a dress. Just sayin... Seems like your narrative is attempting to rename personality types, 'genders'. Well, That's wrong too
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@CreativeUsernameEh Not much of a refutation, and no direct response to my questions. You really need to do better. The narrative that gender isn't connected to biology, regardless of it being your personal position or not seems to be something you're desperately trying to avoid addressing-- Well, then why the need to transition, or play dress up? crickets Kick Rocks
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@Opinionated CSI TS Yes, I'm aware. If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? In other words: If a girl, trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (supposedly the reason for transitioning), How can gender be fluid and separate from biology? Answer: It can't
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That fool is just an agitator, who acts as though stoopid is the new Smart
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@TheLegendOfRandy Do you get paid to play the fool?
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How do you explain the increase in teen pregnancies since sex ed in school has increased exponentially over the last couple of decades, if what you assert were true and correct?
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@lil_frappuccino205 I haven't flagged any of your comments. Back in 1960, most teen mothers - an estimated 85% - were married. Today, the majority of teen births (89%) are to unmarried mothers. Looks like a problem w/ sex ed making a positive impact to me. And that's not even touching on the @b0rti0n stats
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@lil_frappuccino205 The point is if sex ed were working well-- those girls wouldn't be getting themselves pregnant. The relevant point seems to be lost on you
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@lil_frappuccino205 The stats show the percentage shrinking, but the numbers are so inappropriately high that in the internet age, where there's no shortage of info access-- it certainly isn't working well
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@ricardofalcon7889 Not because they are more depressed, women attempt suicide more often than men. Men are more successful at it, because they use lethal means of force-- because they aren't virtue signaling for attention
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@anonymous-em9fd To ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish them well in the coming situation, where as a feminist they'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are now women.
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@brandipityha9457 "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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There's no difference between 'transmen' and woke women. They are in fact-- still women, just now the transhuman women have mutilated their bodies and unnaturally altered their hormones
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@awkwardreadheadpodcast ROFLMFAO.... You think people have to be a doctor to tell the difference between men and women? WOW, I blame the public education system
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@Maksie0 They're men
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@markusbaker1161 What relevant point are you trying to make about those dudes?
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@markusbaker1161 That they're men, and changing what you call them doesn't change that.
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@markusbaker1161 No, that's wrong. Gender isn't a social construct. Gender roles-- like those presenting as 'trans', are the social constructs. That you have difficulty deciphering the difference changes nothing.
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@markusbaker1161 The 'because you said so' standard is rejected firstly because you're wrong, and secondly for lacking any credibility and the reason was already cited. You've Again-- refuted nothing.
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@markusbaker1161 No it isn't. Your silliness is rejected. Get used to it.
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@markusbaker1161 You have the rite to be wrong. It's ok... You can blame your ignorance
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@markusbaker1161 Gender and sex aren't disconnected. Gender is NOT a social construct. Gender roles are the social constructs and they're well-established, which is why the counter-culture trans-narrative is itself the real construct and you seem unable to process that distinction. Your inability to process the truth of it, doesn't invalidate the truth. We're not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe, or cater to feelings. NO! Just... No They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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@justyana488 It's not a negotiation. I'll continue to recognize and discern the difference between your subjective fantasy and objective reality. How you feel about it changes nothing
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@killa4sho313 100 up votes. And, they never will be women.
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@xtalfinn Clearly, Not the point but -- okay. Considering that restrooms are designed and implemented based on objective biology, not subjective identity, a man's intent isn't a basis for endorsing the idea of granting them access to women's private spaces, based on their subjective claims of an internal feeling or self-perception. I don't see it as justifiable
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@markusbaker1161 I get that you believe sex and gender are separate. How does that justify biological males being allowed in biological females private spaces??? What is the logic and rational behind it?
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@markusbaker1161 My question is specifically about why you believe what those whom you believe are peddling. There are doctors around the world who don't agree with those whom you believe, so why do you believe the one's you're talking about, and not the others? Do you have any original thoughts on the matter, or are you following along in blind faith like a cult follower? What do you mean re: transgender people are valid? They're valid people, with a severe amount of confusion regarding their own existence in the body's they were born with their mental state being out of alignment with that. The treatment protocols are not universally accepted among medical professionals, but you choose to believe the activist doctors... Why is that?
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Wait... They said gender is fluid and disconnected from biology, so how then, is there male privilege? It's incoherent
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@KirstieLovesYou2229 Where psychosis and ignorance collide, clarity is seldom found. Women cannot become men and vice versa
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Still are...
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They are not that which they claim to be. It's pretty simple. They're not trans ANYTHING. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after. They're LARPing, at best
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Well, gender roles are social constructs directly related to being male or female, respectively. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. There's a not so subtle difference there that matters. If your identity relies on the participation of others denying objective reality-- then that identity is not valid.
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@justyana488 Why would someone who believes they're a woman, wish to have the 'trans' distinction drawn? That's Extremely Odd
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@justyana488 Oh stop it. That's not an answer to an honest question. They're gender pretenders. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do
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If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males like Blossom, have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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That's not the issue
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@dilnasssssss Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh There's a prerequisite to being a woman and that's being born female-- and those dudes weren't
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@jamelmcmillian2557 There is exactly ZERO science showing men can become women, or vice versa. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman, and that's being born female-- and those dudes weren't. You seem to be conflating personality with gender, but they're not synonymous.
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They'd probably laugh at that juvenile attempt at being snarky and edgy
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Gender-- There are 2 male and female. They conflate personality with gender, gender with gender roles, male with female, men with women, and objective reality with subjective fiction. There is only one kind of woman, and they're all born female
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Ooh... 100 points
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You and MANY others are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) with 'Gender'. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect, Psych Disorder-- That's it!
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@conor.3875 It's a fact. Cope harder, and seethe if you must.
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@conor.3875 Yes, you and your talking points are VERY
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@ElanaVital83 *He
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@ElanaVital83 You're a rebel. Nonetheless-- it's improper use of grammar to refer to a male as she. That's literally misgendering him
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@ElanaVital83 No doubt, you're free to participate in the cosplay-- but make no mistake, it is LARPing
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@Maksie0 Your statement just doesn't withstand the scrutiny. What people exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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Wait... They said gender is fluid and disconnected from biology, so how then, is there male privilege? It's incoherent
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@didimentioniplaythetrombon3454 #1. Yes, it does. They're suggesting men can be women too. #2. No, I did not. I was merely pointing out another incoherent inconsistency within the trans ideology's alternate reality narrative. Cubic Zirconia look like the real thing, BUT, when you know what you're looking at, you know-- They are Not. The same correlation applies to the trans ideology.
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@didimentioniplaythetrombon3454 Well, the wasn't much of a refutation.
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If there's no chromosome with a Y-- it's not a guy, regardless of surgical mutilation or unnaturally screwing up natural hormones to appear like a guy
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@LM-bu2hk That's not another gender. It's a birth defect
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Can you define woman?
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Quit conflating gender with personality and temperament. They're not synonymous
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@aaralyn6710 Intersex isn't a 3rd gender. They only ever present with male or female biology. There's no such thing as trans women. That's just another word you use to describe confused men, who cosplay and LARP portraying the stereotype of a caricature of a female. There are only males and females, which is why using the cis prefix is entirely nonsensical
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The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule... They prove the rule-- hence being the exceptions.
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@mariec3733 You're born male or female, respectively-- and that state is fixed and permanent. Cope Harder
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@mirrormaize They have ZERO reference re: identifying as the opposite sex
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@mirrormaize They have zero reference to identify as the opposite gender, just as they have zero frame of reference to identify as a chicken
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@Me-on1pv And someone not accepting who and what they are, and insisting that everyone else deny reality in favor of their subjective identity, is delusional. If they can't accept themselves, expecting others to accept them is arrogant, self-centered, and narcissistic-- even self-entitled, as though they have the right to insist people speak in the way they decide is acceptable-- is totally out of touch
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@Maksie0 What a load of crap. There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women, illustrating that your narrative is a totally bogus faith-based belief with zero evidence to support your claim that trans women are women. Checkmate / You lost
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@Maksie0 Wrong again. It cuts through the nonsense and gets straight to the point.
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@markusbaker1161 You don't have any standing or any coherent thoughts which stand up to scrutiny. You lost... Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not playing for points. I am correct and you are not. Your refutation is irrelevant and contains ZERO proof that men can become women and/or vice versa-- making your entire argument bogus and void-- free from integrity. ta ta You lose
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@markusbaker1161 I already won. Until someone proves that men can become women-- there's no debate, so my statements stand. See ya
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 @markusbaker1161 My statement still stands, regardless of your admission to a comprehension deficit
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@markusbaker1161 Men cannot become women. Learn it. Know it.
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@markusbaker1161 Nope... Wrong Again. They only alter their appearance. They're not transitioning into another sex. It's cosplay and LARPing taken to the extreme
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@markusbaker1161 No, they aren't. Prancing around-- LARPing and engaging in cosplay doesn't transform anyone's gender. That you think it does, shows that you have no clue
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@markusbaker1161 No, they're not... Those men prancing around pretending they're something they're not are exactly what I've said they are. Those men, are still men, regardless of how effeminate their personalities are, regardless of their attire, or how radically they surgically alter their appearance. -- Still men. There are people and they are male or female-- that's it. Their personality doesn't change their gender. Gender is fixed and limited to the binary of male and female.
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@markusbaker1161 If you listen really closely, you can hear that in reality-- men and women everywhere are recognizing, calling out and rejecting your incoherent trans ideological madness. Don't believe me... Ask Budweiser
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@Maksie0 How do you figure, since he's a male???
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Only to the validity of the incoherent ideology
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@Maksie0 Because accountability must be avoided at all costs for you?
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You think they don't already know?
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@AloGaelle The power of observation. That dude is a dude-- and will always be a dude
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@mariec3733 The topic is still referring to a medical procedure
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And prisons, dressing rooms, sports leagues and sports teams too?
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@mariec3733 Men and women already have designated restrooms, prisons, dressing rooms, locker rooms and individual gender neutral restrooms already exist. Better therapy protocols, and a more stringent control on the ethics of therapists seems like the obvious place to start re: solutions. More asylums is another solution. Happy to help
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@mariec3733 By gender neutral, I mean one toilet, one user at a time either male or female. I'm not addressing the sort of restrooms you'd find in a stadium, or convention center where it can accommodate multiple users simultaneously.
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@mariec3733 Well, people prone to self harm should be looked after, for their own protection and the protection of others
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@mariec3733 I recommend you cure your ignorance and do some research on the trans community and their rate of self-deletion compared to the rest of society-- even after therapy and surgery being nearly 10x's higher. NOT a screaming endorsement for successful treatment as far as I'm concerned.
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@markusbaker1161 F-Off... Don't be lazy. Don't take my word for it. Do some research
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Horrible parenting and schools failing to teach
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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That doesn't work out, when you look at the rate that they tend to do themselves harm, even after transition.
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@nopi-exe The truth is that the 1 requirement for being woman is being female. The failure to acknowledge it, changes nothing. If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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@mariec7352 Feel free to move on. I've acknowledged that your responses are only attempts at justifying the unjustifiable. You writing that not all lives are valuable, qualifying-- "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of" (in other words) unless they are sufficiently charitable to a level of your satisfaction, is patently absurd and the amount of ego behind that is unreal. Your narcissism is off-the-hook.
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@mariec7352 Spamming you? You inserted yourself here and made a comment to me. Try switching to decaf
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@mariec7352 Matthew 10:13 If the home is worthy, let your peace rest on it; but if it is not, let your peace return to you. 14And if anyone will not welcome you or heed your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town. 15Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.… I'll leave you in peace now. I feel comfortable that I've spoken my intended message.
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These delusional living memes illustrate the need for more asylums
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@teddy_needs.sleep9 You know it's true
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@TheLegendOfRandy Are you associating those who have abortions with cannibalism?
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@matt1325 Appears to be Off their meds
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@freedommatters7677 🤡 Think Deeper thoughts
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Show me someone who values life and advocates for the ability to terminate life, and I'll show you a hypocrite
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Ya, so many are confused about basic objective reality. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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The delusional women pretending to be men, and getting upset at not being recognized for their preferred disguise vs who and what they actually are, is what's funny to me. If they're ok w/ their relationship, who are you to judge?
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Well, to ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where -- You'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are now-- women (in the workplace, on the sports field, in the restrooms, locker rooms, showers, and prisons).
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@Maksie0 Because-- The 40% self delete rate, even after transition seems like the obvious answer, as to how and why affirmation-based treatment protocols are woefully insufficient-- BUT then, there's also Kenneth Zucker et Al 2021 (Watched trans women, diagnosed, and after 20 years-- almost 90% desisted) Quit conflating gender and gender roles with personality traits, as though they're synonymous-- They just aren't
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@mr.mclibtard5015 They're delusional, self-entitled narcissists
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Half the panel are women
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@TheLegendOfRandy If you are a female and you consent to risking your body becoming pregnant, you'd have no one to blame but yourself-- for getting pregnant.
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@TheLegendOfRandy Looks like projection on your part. Women, who know that sex w/ men facilitates pregnancy, ARE consenting to doing what they want-- and the resulting pregnancy is, as a result-- their own damned fault, is just stating an obvious fact. How is this a controversial matter?
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@mariec3733 Randy brought that up
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They're not trans anything, but perhaps trans-human. They're still women, just now mutilated and having screwed up their hormones-- unnaturally
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@mariec3733 People, for millennia-- haven't had difficulty deciphering the differences between males and females. What's your excuse for your confusion?
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Oh C'mon... That dude has issues.
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@markusbaker1161 My issue is that I can discern fantasy from reality, unlike you-- apparently
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not trying to assist them w/ their psych issues. That's their therapists job. I'm just observing that they are not that which they claim to be. There's not hate or animosity in that... It just makes me observant. My position has been made clear to you several times now, and here you are acting as though it hasn't. These dudes like Blossom are the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@markusbaker1161 I'm merely observing that they are not that which they claim to be
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@evilforeskin He is misgendering himself. He will never be a she
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Fraudulent identities aren't valid anywhere
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@conor.3875 Not if it was a men's restroom, where he belongs in the 1st place
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@conor.3875 So?
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@conor.3875 Back at ya
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They're merely caricatures of what they wish they were, and can never be
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Their shoe size dwarfs their IQ, and when you couple that with the fact that he's suffering from some major psych issues-- intelligent analysis shouldn't be expected. That dude is a caricature of himself
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@mariec3733 Is a child less valuable, if one of their parent's is bad? Answer: No The less than 1% who are raped clearly didn't consent, and there's no way an intelligent individual could discern that I ever suggested they did. Try to focus.
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@freedommatters7677 See my 1st comment for the answer
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@freedommatters7677 That's incoherent nonsense
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@freedommatters7677 Who is in charge of preventing or facilitating a woman's body becoming pregnant, in the first place?
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It's a form of gender expression. They're men
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People who 'need' that option? No-- Not unless the mother's life is in imminent peril does anyone need that procedure
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@Shan-pv5tf The VAST minority of cases doesn't justify the majority of cases, and having said that-- 1. Having an ectopic pregnancy removed is not an ab0rtion. An ab0rtion is the direct and intentional termination of a preborn baby. This is not the case in the removal of an embryo which has implanted outside the uterus. 2. No one that I'm aware of has proposed opposition to terminating a pregnancy when a mother's life is in imminent peril. 3. In the case of an assault, the innocent unborn isn't less valuable nor do they become disposable because one or both of their parents are bad.
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@Shan-pv5tf To me the fundamental issue is the contrast between those who value the life of the innocent, and those who categorize it as disposable-- and there's no middle ground for a meeting of the minds between those 2 opposing views. The person who was assaulted clearly is a victim of their attacker, but an ab0rtion is still delivering the baby, just not alive in 1 piece and doesn't erase the trauma of the attack. The difference as I see it is 2 victims instead of only 1
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@Shan-pv5tf I don't oppose it, when the mother's life is in imminent peril-- as if the mother perishes so does the baby for the most part, but other than that-- imo, one's morals have to be out of whack to attempt to justify the termination of the innocent in the womb.
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@TheLegendOfRandy If you were planning on proving your shoe size dwarfs your IQ with that incoherent analysis and conclusion-- Congratulations!
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They're cowards, who can't handle pushback against their idiocy
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@mariec7352 No doubt you don't get it. You're confused about which restroom is appropriate. GTFOH
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Where?
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@R L Not much of a refutation junior. Kick Rocks
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@SriSrinivasable 😏
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@R L Your failure to comprehend my response, and answer is noted.
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@R L I wondered if your, 'if it bugs you, grow up' standard should be the response to someone's pronoun preference, ex. a trans-human should look forward to from you, because their perception of themself isn't recognized or shared by you. If yes, you must be fondly referred to as Karen. If no, you're a hypocrite
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@R L Ok, so you're a hypocrite. Thanks for the clarification. Grow up re: respecting people's pronouns not ok... grow up for preference regarding cis pronoun = grow up 🙄
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@R L "Grow up" for preference regarding cis pronoun, but Respect for trans pronoun preference = Hypocrite That's how
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@R L The prefix "cis" in chemistry stands for "within [the norm]" and "trans" means "outside [the norm]. In medical contexts, CIS usually means carcinoma in situ. Carcinoma in situ (CIS) is a group of abnormal cells. Adding cis as a prefix to a straight person is redundant at best
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@R L Are you a phone scammer too? Men cannot become women and vice versa. Deal with it
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@R L Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent woke ideology, as in their near distant future they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men who will claim they're women-- and the feminists don't even see it coming
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@paint67 No, you didn't. You aren't trans anything. Same sex/gender prior to altering your appearance as you would be after. There are 2 sexes and a whole host of psych disorders. That's it
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There is no fixing that mess. It's nonsensical incoherent bull 💩 from start to finish. You hear that sound??? That's the sound of women and men rejecting the incoherent ideological narrative. They better get used to it
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@OneManInaTree They're still women. Neither their surgery, nor their Costume selection/Disguise doesn't change their XY chromosomes to 'other than'-- XY.
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@conor.3875 Has ascertaining the obvious always been difficult for you? So?.... a fetus is alive, is human and is a baby and doesn't get into the womb of it's mother by accident
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@conor.3875 To answer your 1st response: So, trivia
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@markusbaker1161 Me too. What's your point?
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@markusbaker1161 What rights are you referring to?
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@markusbaker1161 Are they different somehow than human rights?
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@markusbaker1161 Then, they're not being deprived of any rights, so It's a non-issue, and changing the term is clearly a silly, redundant distinction
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@markusbaker1161 Which rights would those be? Face it... Being trans is the construct, based in fantasy. Cope Harder
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Government isn't the solution to solving the challenges of strife in the world. Utopia isn't possible
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@MrDebatable66 The choice is to risk it or not. if she chooses to risk it-- it's her fault
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@MrDebatable66 There's no gray area when it comes to the fact that sex is what causes pregnancy, and if a woman wishes to avoid it she can, and if she chooses to risk it she can do that too-- but then come the consequences of her choice to risk it. It's really not complicated
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@73748 You seem triggered. Relax
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@73748 It seemed like you were just looking for another opportunity to be snarky
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@mariec3733 Yes, I have no doubt you are. You've been displaying that for some time now.
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Cope Harder.
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@gabby.iscool All women are born female, all men are born male and neither are a social construct, fetish, feeling or costume. Now you know better.
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The variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) are inappropriately being being conflated with gender
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The trans-activist ideology is Anti-women, and can't even define what a woman is. Best of luck to ALL the feminists who go along to get along, and who will be dealing with their oppression by men, saying they're women-- competing on the sports field, in the job market, being exposed in the locker room, the showers, the restrooms, and in prisons. Don't say nobody told you
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@PurpleFlames87 Yet, half the panel are women talking as if they have a clue about what it is to be men. Some hairy dude in a dress screaming, "It's MA'AM"-- while insisting that they're a woman doesn't make it so. Similarly, having a plastic surgeon change your appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek, doesn't actually make you a Klingon. Same is true regarding gender transition surgery. Still, XX or XY
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Less traumatic than a death sentence.
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@Draco19970125 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and relates to the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. The ideology is incoherent. They get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender with personality traits and temperament as though they're synonymous-- and they are not. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate males with females.
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President Dwayne, Alizondo, Mountain-Dew, Camacho or a James Brown impersonator?
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@justonetime6179 Actually, they're born female infants. A woman is an adult
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@TheLegendOfRandy Has Cause and Effect, and reaching reasonable conclusions always given you difficulty?
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@mariec7352 Your, 'look at me' comment is noted
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@mariec7352 As always you've added nothing of substance and you've refuted nothing in the process.
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@mariec7352 Ya, that's not a refutation, but I'm sure you think it is. Think deeper thoughts
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@mariec7352 🤣😵‍💫😵🤕
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@mariec7352 How come you fail to recognize the autonomy of the child's body-- that the mother created with her choice to engage in the one and only act which causes the unwanted pregnancy?
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@mariec7352 It's a question, not a statement of fact. Try to focus I believe that human life is precious and inherently valuable. Why don't you?? (Evidenced by your desire to terminate the lives of the most innocent and vulnerable, as a matter of casual convenience-- for those who created it in the 1st place) I just don't see anything righteous or virtuous in any of your comments.
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EVERY dictionary on the planet includes those words, and with internet access, you can look them up in no time flat
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A lack of discernment and virtueless virtue signaling are worse
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@krasmasov6852 How is discernment a bad thing?
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@eveliinahannele Ooh, name calling... from a triggered troll... What will I do now? Oh no. 😂🤣😅😆😁😄😃😀😴🙄😏
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When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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@jilliank6633 No, I am not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent
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@lixbians Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male and female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories in the binary of all mammalian species--which are fixed and permanent. You appear to be inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@lixbians What's sad-- though not uncommon or unexpected is that my replies are being censored, Illustrating the lack of integrity of those who would hide away from refuting my comments.
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@lixbians Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people-- who don't live in reality about there being two genders. They can have a surgeon alter their appearance and prescribe hormones to make them appear like a Klingon from Star Trek, but it doesn't make them an actual Klingon, and those who would believe it does-- are delusional.
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Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh
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@CYRUSX1 I agree, but that isn't a she. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female, and he wasn't
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@Maksie0 You're talking in circles... Trans women are women who are trans?? And women who are trans, are also trans men?? And Trans men are men who are trans?? And men who are trans, are also trans women? So, trans women are also trans men? You're extremely confused about life
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@Maksie0 Me? I'm not confused at all about the fact that humans come in 2 varieties-- (Male and Female), or about that state being fixed and permanent. YOU, on the other hand, seem VERY confused and angry about that. I don't promote violence against anyone. Stop lying. You're the one resorting to name calling and incoherent messaging, and when asked for clarification, you bring nothing to the conversation, but attacks. I like driving, but not with too much traffic, or you can't drive fast. It isn't as fun.
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@TheLegendOfRandy Those aren't excuses; They're attempted justifications, and are not the same thing. Pro-abortion advocates would rather abort the child, then bring it into a world where THEY themselves will suffer the responsibility of contending with their actions because they're concerned with nothing but themselves.
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They're not. They're women, who have chosen to alter their appearance, and screw with their natural hormones.
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Their cult terminology doesn't affect reality in the slightest. Trans women are men with issues prancing around as though they're women without issues-- Still men Blossom's anti-social interpersonal cries for negative attention, are not earning him any acceptance or compassion. They're just him, making a spectacle of himself, causing the divide his community alleges they wish to bridge.
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@Maksie0 The truth is that the 1 requirement for being woman is being female. The failure to acknowledge it, changes nothing. If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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That is some ignorant crap.
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@quesadilla9957 How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or elevate their character to more than a base animal?
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@Quesadilla You are the one who replied to my thread. I raised my own, now 32yo without his biological mother in the picture from the time he was a new born. What is your excuse?
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@quesadilla9957 Don't be a coward... Answer the question. Ab0rti0n isn't a solution as it doesn't save people from the consequences of their own actions (Getting pregnant), or elevate their character to more than a base animal. Try Again?? My solution: Suck it up, and know that is the cost of the game. Raise it, or adoption seems the obvious answers, and that those choices elude you (and others with like you w/ low 2-digit IQ capacity)-- is not a shocker. Ignorance can be cured with information, But-- Stoooopid is Forever, as the capacity to assimilate information is stunted, preventing their comprehension of 3-digit IQ understanding. You fail to justify the termination of the innocent, in the womb
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Exactly correct
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@jakobmalki8972 Which makes my point that those who would resort to that sort of extreme means of attention-seeking, are VERY mentally unbalanced. To all the feminists who go along to get along w/ this incoherent ideology-- I wish you well in the near dystopian future, where you'll now be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will say they're women too.
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If one's identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must affirm your self-perceived identity, in defiance of objective reality-- then that identity is invalid. It's really that simple. Gender and sex aren't disconnected, they're intrinsically linked-- and too many are failing to realize that gender isn't the social construct, rather gender roles are the construct, and so too are trans-cultists ideological narratives constructs, just based in lunacy.
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@markusbaker1161 🤡🌎
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@markusbaker1161 Grow up
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@markusbaker1161 Congratulations
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@markusbaker1161 No worries. You do you. I'm not going to ignore what I can observe with my own eyes, and promote make believe, or cater to feelings by pretending that the identity of people who identify as something they're not in reality, is valid. They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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@markusbaker1161 A chance? A chance to do what?
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@markusbaker1161 :face-green-smiling:What evidence are you relying on which suggests that, "giving the benefit of the doubt to those people who may be different from me a chance" will eliminate potential discrimination? Pure nonsense
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@markusbaker1161 uh huh... 🤭
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@markusbaker1161 No doubt
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@markusbaker1161 Your desperate efforts to gain my attention is SO cringe.
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@markusbaker1161 Got it! You're cringe without even having to try
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@markusbaker1161 No doubt... That would require an upstanding character, made possible by a functioning moral compass.
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@markusbaker1161 Nope. Just observations. Prove I'm incorrect, or you're the liar. They're still men and will always be men, regardless of their elaborate efforts to alter their appearance to be more like women
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@markusbaker1161 Your absence of integrity, evading answering questions, and no evidence whatsoever of a coherent argument anywhere to be found-- is uncanny. Your agenda is twisted. They're still men
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@markusbaker1161 Your satisfaction is not guaranteed, nor relevant. Life isn't fair, and your willingness to avoid the truth doesn't invalidate the truth that men can't become women
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@markusbaker1161 The burden of proof is on those who promote the trans-ideology's claims as being true and correct. You skipped step 1
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@markusbaker1161 No I don't. This video's content is the proof. Your approval isn't required, and your failure to acknowledge it changes nothing
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@markusbaker1161 My comments stand, and as they are they're still not yet refuted by you or anyone else; meaning-- I don't require a defense for facts and truth.
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@markusbaker1161 You want me to prove a negative? Get a grip.
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@Maksie0 Which rights?
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@Thisisyoutube-o6q That's a very nihilistic view of life you have.
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@mariec3733 Doesn't justify terminating the life of an innocent
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@mariec3733 Body autonomy doesn't justify your narrative either. Thanks for playing, and the 1% doesn't justify the other 99% either
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@sodiumso6015 The innocent lives of the resulting pregnancies in the 1% of rape cases aren't disposable people either, just because their fathers were bad. Why do you think they are?
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@mariec3733 If the mother perishes, the child does too-- by default. How does that not occur to you, as obviously true?
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@Maksie0 Source??
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@minmoongi_ Cope Harder
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How about no... It's not the worlds job to deny objective reality and participate in the LARP and cosplay, as though it is based in reality. All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference or a costume
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*He
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@smhmyhead9184 Like extreme LARP and cosplay-- they don't actually make them the opposite sex
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@Maksie0 Not when those hormones are given to women, to have them unnaturally alter their natural chemistry
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@Maksie0 No dipshit, women are adult human females and trans women aren't that. Women who are trans are trans men. Get it straight
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@Maksie0 trans ladies 1st
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@scarlettdavis9336 How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition, and are then considered "rational"?
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Define the 'Neutral point'. Is it, live and let live and celebrate them self mutilating and removing themselves from the gene pool? or What???
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@zaadus2 Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense, and madness
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@conor.3875 Are you trying to make their point FOR them? Women are the drivers, causing their own accidents
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@conor.3875 No, by crashing
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@cloroxistoxic2077 They're a troll
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@conor.3875 No, crashing due to driving poorly is what causes car accidents, not driving in and of itself. Try to keep up
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@conor.3875 The matter at hand is literally a matter of their own making. How do you save people from themselves and their foolishness? Terminating innocent children doesn't seem to do it. I observe that there are women who've figured out how to plan their family's effectively and utilize their preventative birth control effectively, and contrast them against those who've clearly NOT figured it out, and instead-- keep getting it wrong. By implementing a better strategy and approach, looking back with the regret of shoulda, woulda, coulda re: one's family planning can be mitigated significantly in the positive direction. There is, unfortunately-- no known cure for stooopid
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@KindlyKalen There's no fear in recognizing that someone is not that which they portray themselves. That's just being observant. Cope Harder Just remember, when you think things are against you-- it's probably You, and the world doesn't owe you acceptance. If You want to integrate into society-- then remember that it's YOU, who needs to adapt. To insist that society must play along with your counter-culture position-- makes you seem arrogant, narcissistic, self-entitled and ridiculous. You're not the center of the universe and the world isn't going to reorganize itself to accommodate your subjective feelings, contrary to objective reality. You need to develop better coping mechanisms to deal with adversity, because not everyone is going to like you, or be accommodating.
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Yes... It's incoherent madness, which doesn't stand up to scrutiny which rules their emotionally unstable perception of reality.
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Then they should not put one in there. Women who facilitate their totally avoidable unwanted pregnancy's, by engaging in the one and only act which causes their dilemma have no one but themselves to blame. Own it!
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@athena6961 Because her unwanted pregnancy is Not possible, unless she chooses to facilitate her risk by engaging in the act which causes it. She's the gatekeeper of her own body is she not?
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@RiversBliss You remained silent to my reply, which exposed the holes in your narrative
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@RiversBliss You sure are doing a lot of mental gymnastics to ignore the fact that the child which is in the womb is there because the mother facilitated herself becoming pregnant, when choosing to risk an unwanted pregnancy, by engaging in the one and only act which causes her avoidable dilemma. It is a living, developing human-- unlike a bacteria, so you fail to justify terminating the life of the innocent. I'm under no delusion that there is a potential for a meeting of the minds, when it comes to philosophical issues about morality, such as issues like these-- which separate those who value life as something bigger than just an opportunity for self-gratification-- from those, who just don't.
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@athena6961 Asked and answered. Women who facilitate their totally avoidable unwanted pregnancy's, by engaging in the one and only act which causes their dilemma-- have no one but themselves to blame. Own it!
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Never has a better plan existed to guarantee one's ignorance-- EVER
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@darcymr353 1st thing you've said that I agree with. God's people perish for their lack of knowledge, facilitating them being deceived
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If he was aiming to trigger someone with his comment, it sure seems to have worked like a charm
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What are you rambling about?? An unfertilized egg isn't a new life 😵‍💫😵
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@mariec7352 My point was about a new life and unfertilized eggs just aren't. Way to miss the point--Again. I told you, you should try to be relevant
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@youawesome2068 You say that like it's a bad thing
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@mariec7352 You're still choosing to remain irrelevant, I see. Well, you are consistent in that
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That dude isn't any kind of woman. That dude is unhinged from reality. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the use of Cis/Trans totally irrelevant and useless.
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@dragopistachio No attempts to actually answer the questions, doesn't indicate you understand much. Just sayin...
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Exactly correct. That incoherent analogy presumes someone else is a fault, where in the case of women facilitating their avoidable dilemma-- there's no one to blame but them
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The argument is, "if you are aware that you could get pregnant, then you shouldn't be doing things that actually cause it, if a pregnancy is unwanted. Simple"
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@TheLegendOfRandy More like simpleton. Consenting to drive isn't the cause of accidents, genius.
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@flowersmakemehappy834 Sociopaths have no shame
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@TheLegendOfRandy After reviewing the comments you've made here in the comment section, I can't find any evidence of you having a clue about much of anything, anywhere
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@darcymr353 Your argument does not justify terminating the innocent in the womb
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@darcymr353 You can't... Your arguments presumes a specific human rite, so the onus is on you to verify/validate or justify that, and you cannot because there is no such thing.
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@darcymr353 Pregnancy isn't forced on women. It's either avoided or facilitated by women, as a result of their own choice and actions. When they do-- they risk creating a new life, so should make better choices, if they don't wish to facilitate their own avoidable dilemma-- and doing so doesn't justify terminating the innocent offspring they created
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@Maksie0 Not trans is the point
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@technoloverish Personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender, but they're being conflated-- as though they think they are. That's making them VERY much more confused than they already are. Sex and gender aren't disconnected-- they're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively.
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If gender is fluid, why the need to change at all??? It's crazy
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@Maksie0 Not much in the way of proving her incorrect-- Still choosing to guarantee your irrelevance, it seems.
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It's the female to male confusion that's growing at an even crazier rate
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@xrrrrrrrrrrrr1 Look, there are no guarantees in life-- except for death.
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@mariec3733 No it isn't. They're a fringe minority. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@mariec3733 Pretending to be something other than what you are doesn't make you that in reality. Too bad, so sad-- Not People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and prior. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules, it has nothing to do with gender.
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Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. They're intrinsically linked and are not disconnected. A dissociative state is by definition delusional. You'd learn that in a psych class to if you actually took one.
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@conor.3875 Like I said, that's the sound of rejection. You better get used to it
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@conor.3875 Back at ya, while you promote the incoherent trans-activist, cult narrative.
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@conor.3875 You engage in argument for sport, so I'll take your projection to mean that YOU'RE lonely. Countering the intellectually vacant, trans-activist, cult narratives, comments, etc., so that others who are reading can consider, research and verify the info I present for themselves.
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Intersex, and chromosomal anomalies of the binary XX, XY are a birth defects, not another gender
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That label transphobic has no power. It's dismissed as idiocy. They/them are neutral and are in no way incorrect.
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@krasmasov6852 Do all professionals agree on the course of treatment? No, they do not. There are professionals who do not agree with affirmation therapy.
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@krasmasov6852 Science is, any system of knowledge that is concerned with the physical world and its phenomena and that entails unbiased observations and systematic experimentation. In general, a science involves a pursuit of knowledge covering general truths or the operations of fundamental laws.
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@krasmasov6852 Now you know better, and can avoid your incorrect assertions in the future. You're Welcome
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@krasmasov6852 The definitions and grammar rules proving your assertion wrong, and your failure to comprehend that-- is illustrative of your single-digit IQ at play
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@Anat-0 Define, what is a woman first
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@Anat-0 No need. I'm not trying to persuade you. Apparently the censored believe that you, or someone else with a brain who's reading-- may be persuaded by my counter-narrative, so much so that they're shadow banning the comments, because they're cowards and prejudicial against free speech which exposes the incoherence of the trans-human ideology, OR-- you are flagging the comments and trolling for sport. Either way-- it doesn't matter. They want me to use their pronouns and have failed to persuade, or refute my points of contention, so the answer is, No
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Truth is, whether it's observed, understood, described or not-- but it is clearly misunderstood by those with deficient mental and intellectual capacity
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@mariec3733 They appear to make the case that their life is with living, exposing their shallow character, as they attempt in vain to justify casually deciding that someone else's isn't-- because of convenience
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@mariec7352 I believe that human life is precious and inherently valuable. Why don't you, evidenced by your desire to terminate the lives of the most innocent and vulnerable, as a matter of convenience? I just don't see anything righteous or virtuous in any of your comments.
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@mariec3733 Nonsense
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@mariec3733 He says, while failing to answer the question. You really need to do better
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@mariec3733 Nonsense. You've proven nothing whatsoever. You really need to do better
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@mariec3733 I don't really care. You're wrong, and I already know that. No worries. How come you fail to recognize the autonomy of the child's body-- that the mother created with her choice to engage in the one and only act which causes the unwanted pregnancy?
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@mariec7352 No, you haven't. Seems like you're triggered, and just looking to say, "Pay attention to me" because you're lonely or some such thing. Sad...
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@georgeaskeladd742 Since they unnaturally modified their body's
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She's not wrong, and isn't being refuted by you here
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Where psychosis and ignorance collide, clarity is seldom found to reside. Women cannot become men and men cannot become women. Oh ya-- intersex is a birth defect, not another gender-- of which there are only 2. Quit conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender-- it's just incorrect.
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They can... The problem they have is, they are effectively choosing to call an apple an orange, as though it will somehow make an impact on the nature of the apple or the orange-- even though it doesn't. The entire ideological narrative is incoherent m@dness
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@violet_rush Now THAT would've been hilariously unlady-like
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@Maksie0 Science isn't a consensus. It's a means of study. How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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Because they're still unborn
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@TheLegendOfRandy No. A PERSON is a corporate legal fiction which can operate on the seas of commerce, via a port in the Admiralty jurisdiction-- based off of the Berth aka Birth Certificate of a living individual-- which isn't generated until the mother signs over the child to a licensed agent of the State (the Doctor). This creates a Foreign Citus Trust, to reserve a place for the minor child to operate in commerce when they come of age. The Birth Certificate IS the PERSON, not the individual living human
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@TheLegendOfRandy No, it wasn't. It's still there. Being an individual human being is not the same as being a PERSON (which is a corporate legal fiction, NOT a living human being)
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@Maksie0 Do you know what a woman is?
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Doesn't matter. XX you're female. XY-- you're male. No body cares about your thoughts on s3x or gender
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They aren't 'trans' ANYTHING. Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do
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When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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Nothing whatsoever.
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@notfounder285 A fetus in a human is merely a stage of human development, and can be nothing but a human. How does that confuse you?
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No one is trans. They're ALL still only males or females, respectively-- as they were when they were born. Changing what you call something doesn't change the thing. It only changes the name you're using.
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@markusbaker1161 In reality, people exist. They are male or female. Trans is a construct, which doesn't alter reality. Take your time to process that fact
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No, they shouldn't
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ERRATAS 003 Observing the fact that she's not what she claims to be, is indicative of middle eastern thinking? How?
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@andreas1892 Ya, you put them in prison
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@Landlin3 She's not what she claims to be... How is THAT confusing?? I think it's sad, but telling-- that when you're confronted with the tough questions, and information which illustrates the incoherence of your arguments, that you shrink away into the darkness
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Quit conflating gender with personality and gender roles as though they're synonymous. They aren't
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@jasmynnmaleah7553 How so? It's a debate topic. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They appear to be misgendering themselves. How are they not?
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@jasmynnmaleah7553 Why? Because I recognize that they are not that which they present themselves as, and I'm not willing to pretend I don't? That just makes me observant. I'm not addressing how I feel about them misgendering themselves, in the form of gender misappropriation of women. I figure, woe to the feminists who buy into this ideological narrative-- as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim to be women, and they don't see it coming. The cis prefix, that was being objected to, wasn't met with respect, so how should they then demand respect? Respect is earned, and is reserved for that which is respectable
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@markusbaker1161 Why are you acting like a pro-fascism activist, trying to shut down conversation? Better to make your case effectively
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@markusbaker1161 No worries. I'm not trying to persuade you to accept that men cannot become women and vice versa. If you can't assimilate that info-- It's a YOU problem, not a Me problem
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@TheLegendOfRandy The final say on whether or not women are willing to risk themselves getting pregnant, when facilitating it-- is on women-- and that is why they have no one to blame but themselves for their avoidable self-inflicted dilemmas. Obvious to anyone with a functional prefrontal cortex... What's your excuse?? How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one driven like a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences?
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@TheLegendOfRandy If that were true, men could opt out of child support, if men in fact did have the final say on having to pay it. You're still not too bright
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@batlover1977 All women are born female,. all men are born male and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference or a costume. Trans men are women with issues prancing around as though they're men without issues-- still women
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🤣😂😆
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@melthegoth9132 Women already know this, making the insistence on using the prefix entirely redundant. It's used as a slur
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The morals and ethics of those who would declare the innocent to be disposable in the name of convenience, are those of narcissists and sociopaths.
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They're misgendering themselves. They aren't that which they claim to be. They're LARPing at best
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@Erik-fn7kj Women too. Correlation is not causation. There are only two choices throughout history; Male and Female. Most men and women throughout history have been ruled over and oppressed by tyrannical leaders and they had no say about it
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@mariec3733 They do say that trans women are women though. That's wrong. The prerequisite for being a woman is being born female. That sound you're hearing is the sound of women and men rejecting your ideological narrative, terminology and calling it out for what it is-- bull 💩. Just ask Budweiser
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If they're stay at home mom's, what else would you expect?? Do you think they didn't have a choice to be stay at home mom's, or that they shouldn't have that choice?? Is it expected because the woman chose that as her preference?? Think Deeper thoughts
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How about devout Muslims vs trans-Muslims (Is that even a thing?)
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@VHS_12 Fetus literally means, unborn baby
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The thing is, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@rustyshackleford7656 :face-blue-smiling:🤣😂😆
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Still a human life
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HILARIOUS whinging and nonsensical idiocy from the morally bankrupt and intellectually disenfranchised
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Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh
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They're not equal. One is based in fact,the other is based in fantasy
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@MathewSteeleAtheology People are male or female, respectively. You appear to be inappropriately conflating the variability of temperament and personality traits (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence butch females, effeminate males and tomboys) as though they're synonymous with gender-- and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively.
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@MathewSteeleAtheology If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. There's 1 prerequisite to being a woman and that actually being a female. trans-women aren't THAT That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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@MathewSteeleAtheology Nonetheless-- the mainstream trans-activist narrative does make that ludicrous claim, among others-- just as ridiculous. You made a point to talk bout science. Well, there are males and females according to science. Segments of each suffer with physical disorders, some with psych disorders and some with both, none of which invalidate the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species.
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They're not designed to.
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It's very easy to discern the differences between men and women and men and women with anti-social personalities, counter-culture fashion and dissociative psych issues too.
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@bdaarmy9736 There are people. People are male or female, respectively. Segments of each are born with or develop various physical issues, some with various psych issues and some with both-- NONE of which make it possible for a male to become a female or a female to become a male. Gender (There are only 2 male/female... That's it). Too many inappropriately conflate gender with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys), as though they're synonymous, but they aren't. A woman isn't a social construct, a feeling, or a costume. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the use of trans/cis intellectually vacant and irrelevant
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@bdaarmy9736 Because the truth and the facts matter, and the point was to expose the incoherent nonsense coming from the trans-activist's ideological narratives for the nonsense that it is. Hope that helps
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It looks like they still haven't figured out that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender yet. Trans women ARE men. They aren't trans Anything. They're merely caricatures of that which they will never be-- Women
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@baitboyzlifestyle3981 Genderpretenders
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@markusbaker1161 That's what I said. Those men, who you're calling transgender, have no business being granted access to women's private spaces.
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@markusbaker1161 It isn't calling them women, that for sure
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@markusbaker1161 No, it does not
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@markusbaker1161 No, it doesn't. Repeating your cult mantra is fine, but it isn't going to make you correct, no matter how many more times you repeat it
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@markusbaker1161 You conflate science with science-fiction. Your opinion is useless
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@markusbaker1161 Cite the source
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@markusbaker1161 The one's that proves that those who you're referring to as 'trans-women', are not biological males.
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@markusbaker1161 Dissociative disorders involve problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self-- so if you're not talking about biology-- then by default you're addressing dissociative disorders. How are you not?
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@markusbaker1161 The biology is already established, validating my statements. The psych science validates my statements as well. Dissociative disorders are clearly defined as those involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self.
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@markusbaker1161 Nothing you've stated has invalidated anything I've written
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@Maksie0 No, cis is rejected and is irrelevant, as there is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female.
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@thankyouforbeingafriend9632 Yes... Trans women are men with issues, pretending that they're women without issues. Affirmation-based treatment protocols resembles able-ism-- like an identical twin resembles their sibling
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They're full of contradictions
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@Maksie0 Reality that women are all born female and all men are born male vs Delusional fantasy... There is no contest.
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Evidence??
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Once a dude, always a dude. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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There is only 1 kind of woman, and she's born female. Delusional men vs women
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That's because compared to 90%+ of countries, it doesn't even come close
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If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? In other words: If a girl, trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (supposedly the reason for transitioning), How can gender be fluid and separate from biology? Answer: It can't
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@barrybarbella817 They're still men... Just-- with psych issues and a quirky fashion sense
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That dude is unhinged from reality
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@markusbaker1161 Think deeper thoughts. The point is drag queens, cross dressers, and trans women are all men
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@markusbaker1161 How cute. You think saying that makes it so... It doesn't. Women aren't a social construct.
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@markusbaker1161 What's your point, that it doesn't make those men something other than men because they identify as other than men???
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@markusbaker1161 I've already made my point. Your confusion about it is a you problem
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@markusbaker1161 What's it matter to you?
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@markusbaker1161 I don't care if you think so... They're not
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@markusbaker1161 Your self perceived gender identity confusion doesn't alter your biology, or obligate anyone else to participate in your cosplay and LARPing
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@markusbaker1161 Don't care. I identify as someone who doesn't have to participate in the madness. Your feelings don't matter
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@markusbaker1161 I don't care what stories you tell yourself. No one credible has validated that prop@g@nd@ you're spewing
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@markusbaker1161 You didn't try... Looks like you were wrong about that too
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@markusbaker1161 You're peddling their talking points. If you can't articulate why you think their narratives are correct-- you're a sheep
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@markusbaker1161 No, you aren't
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@markusbaker1161 There's no evidence of intelligent thought in any of your comments. That doesn't affect me.
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@markusbaker1161 You conflate social constructs with biology, when you say trans women are women. It's patently absurd and totally incorrect.
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@markusbaker1161 Yes you do. Women aren't social constructs, they're adult, human, females, so saying that trans women are women-- is wrong. Your cult narrative is rejected
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@markusbaker1161 trans women are not adult, human, females. Your statement is patently false
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@samhg3658 Most of the pro-abortion commenters seem to have low double-digit IQ's, and broken moral compasses
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@Tomb-Wraith Yet, you can't cite a single biologist (or any other scientist for that matter) who considers the unborn offspring of any species to be a parasite, because, they doesn't exist. Terrible analogy. You appear to be arguing for argument's sake
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More than 1
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@aaralyn6710 No you wouldn't-- or you'd look it up and verify for yourself
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@aaralyn6710 And yet-- you haven't. Get real
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@littlesunshine4591 Nothing that invalidates the fact that men can't become women
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@littlesunshine4591 So, you missed my point. shocker
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@mariec3733 Of course it takes 2, however; Women are the gatekeepers of their chastity, so it Starts with them granting access and facilitating their own self-inflicted dilemmas. I raised my own as a single parent-- so your conclusion is clearly incorrect, and demonstrably short-sighted.
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The natural consequence of having sex is pregnancy. The equation is A+B=C Again, How smart is she, if she knows that she doesn't want to risk a pregnancy, then chooses to engage in the one and only act that actually causes it, without taking preventative precautions? If a pregnancy should occur-- it's her fault for choosing to risk it. Just sayin...
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@songoftheblackunicorn666 Because the conversation is about unwanted pregnancies for women, who have all the ability to avoid the avoidable unwanted pregnancy. The point is the action isn't harmless, it's potentially life altering and needs to be treated seriously, not with a casual attitude to prevent the unwanted and totally avoidable consequence of a poor choice
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@songoftheblackunicorn666 As someone who, as a single dad with sole custody-- raised a child, now a grown, adult in his 30's, from the time he was born; I understand more than you think, about what goes on.
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@songoftheblackunicorn666 It is 100% ALWAYS avoidable (Obviously I'm not addressing rape). If we're talking about a woman's preference to avoid a pregnancy, how is it that a guy is responsible for her willingness to choose to engage in the one and only act that actually causes it, by granting him access? It's her risk to take, as she's the one that gets pregnant-- BUT, there are consequences and she knows it, and so is without excuse. How does advocating in favor of terminating the life of the innocent in the womb, not show anything but a casual notion that life is disposable?
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@mariec3733 Life is worth living. Why do you disagree?
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@eveliinahannele Since we're talking about a woman's preference to avoid a pregnancy, how is it that a guy is responsible for her willingness to choose to engage in the one and only act that actually causes it, by granting him access? It isn't as if she doesn't know what causes pregnancy It's her risk to take, as she's the one that gets pregnant-- BUT, there are consequences and she knows it, and so is without excuse. How does advocating in favor of terminating the life of the innocent in the womb, not show anything but a casual notion that life is disposable?
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@eveliinahannele They do. They don't risk getting pregnant. If they did, they'd take the appropriate precautions and I can guarantee there would be nearly ZERO unwanted pregnancies. Why would/should he care more about that than she does? How is it, in your view-- that he's more culpable than she is? She chose to risk her body, and he didn't make her do that.
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@mariec3733 So? Women are in charge of the risks they take, and they are responsible for their choices to risk an unwanted pregnancy. It's not like they didn't know they were taking the risk
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@eveliinahannele So women got nothing to do with choosing to risk/avoid pregnancy? Why would men have any culpability regarding a woman's choice to risk herself getting pregnant, if she has none?
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@mariec3733 Why would men have any culpability regarding a woman's choice to risk herself getting pregnant, if she has none?
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@eveliinahannele Why wouldn't/shouldn't women avoid themselves getting pregnant, if they don't want to get pregnant-- as they have all the power to avoid it?
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@eveliinahannele What? That's all I've been talking about. Women that want to avoid an unwanted pregnancy, have the obligation to avoid it, as well as the means, and men aren't culpable if they fail. Those women failed themselves. How have they not?
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@mariec3733 I came here to get my questions answered, not to spar with trolls.
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@mariec3733 I answered every single question you had over an hour ago, in Ximena's thread, originally posted 8 days ago from today. I had a question seeking clarification from you on something, and you just disappeared-- Again. A shame, really
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@mariec3733 Why would there be? You haven't asked any questions of me, in this thread. I told you where to find the responses.
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@SimplehumanMale-ue5iq Only those who's shoe size dwarfs their IQ
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@MontyQueues No doubt, evidenced by them having families. Don't conflate race with culture
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@merrinbuchan2488 Give it a rest. Pick a bridge, if your convictions are so strong
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@celestejacobs7386 An embryo is a stage of human development. Still a human, still alive and your attempt to justify it's termination have all failed.
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@celestejacobs7386 Check out Australia's laws on the subject, and get back to me. You're wrong, but that's ok... You can blame your ignorance
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@lissy1678 Get your tubes tied. You're the one who risks getting pregnant, and have the responsibility to avoid it-- if you don't wish to get pregnant. eye roll
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@lissy1678 It only takes one. The woman who doesn't want to risk getting pregnant, doesn't have to.
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@heyqt7485 Some hairy dude in a dress screaming, "It's MA'AM"-- while insisting that they're a woman doesn't make it so. Similarly, having a plastic surgeon change your appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek, doesn't actually make you a Klingon. Same is true regarding gender transition surgery. Still, XX or XY
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@heyqt7485 The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule. They prove the rule-- hence being the exceptions. Intersex is not a gender. It's a birth defect/Anomaly The trans ideology is attempting to rename and recategorize variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence tomboys, butch females and effeminate men), "Gender" and that's just incorrect. Gender Dysphoria is an extremely rare condition. Some argue that most trans people do not suffer from gender dysphoria, rather-- they are merely unapologetically embracing their own perversions, and are inappropriately being grouped together under the gender dysphoria umbrella
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He didn't change his gender. He only altered his appearance. Don't do-- as they do, and conflate gender with gender roles, gender w/ personality and temperament, science with science-fiction, or fact with fiction.
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@SlongestKongest Your comment wasn't much of a refutation. It actually validates my original post, by illustrating my point. It wasn't an argument. It was merely an observation. The narrative suggests that gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity. Both can't be true, showing the narrative is incoherent.
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@Noonegiveafuckaboutyouropinion Triggered and loud aren't a great look for you
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You seem triggered. Relax The trans-ideology is anti-women. TBest of luck in your near dystopian future, where you'll be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will say THEY are women
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Masculinity is a personality trait that's not gender exclusive-- that's why there are butch females and effeminate men
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@shimtarakila9053 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female-- making the use of cis/trans intellectually vacant and totally useless.
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@capcarter5805 What are you waiting for? Post the evidence
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@amani7753 Don't conflate personality traits and temperament with gender or gender roles as though they're synonymous. They are not. One's subjective identity, in contrast to objective reality isn't valid.
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@markusbaker1161 Oh-- okay
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@markusbaker1161 I'm Not indulging you any longer. Competent adults do their own research to confirm information for themselves. i reject your narratives-- and am not interested in indulging your intellectual diarrhea any longer. You've gone out of your way to be an insufferable twat-- so expecting integrity from you is not logical nor reasonable. You fail to make your case. Deal with it and move on. Your opinion has proven to be without value, and substance-free
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@markusbaker1161 How cute... You think you're in charge running an interrogation and I owe you something. Get real
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not writing or submitting a peer reviewed paper and am not trying to prove anything. It's my opinion that the results of affirmation based therapy are horrendous, evidenced by the stats on that demographic's self-deletion-- even after therapy. If you think the results are fine. Okay... Based on what? A quick internet search on the stats should yield results easily, and if I'm incorrect you could easily show that-- but I'm correct, so you can't. buh bye then
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@markusbaker1161 If you're really interested. Look it up. I refuse to indulge you
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@markusbaker1161 HAHA... Sucks to be you. I don't answer to you. If you can't handle the challenge to prove me incorrect by doing some easy research, you lose. Pretty simple
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@markusbaker1161 That's wrong. It'd be easy for a competent adult to prove me wrong, if I was incorrect-- but you can't, because I'm not. Pretty simple really
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@markusbaker1161 Oh please... I refuse to indulge your idiocy. You started it, when you made the claim that trans women are women. You didn't prove that. I showed that to be incorrect. Cry louder
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@markusbaker1161 If you want to pretend that men are women-- Go for it. They're not, but-- go for it. You're only fooling yourself
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That's all you got from that? wow... Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally, not dissimilar to someone in drag. The why isn't the point.
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@AAARRTTTT Pretty sure if that were true, their self-delete rates would be the same as the general population, but they aren't because normal, well-adjusted people don't typically self delete
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@serg3209 🎯
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The fact that the self-delete rates today are higher than they were prior to the implementation of affirmation-based treatment, and even after transition-- are nearly 40% higher than the general population, doesn't illustrate efficacious results, and on that basis I question the claims of the course of treatment being efficacious, as well as the ethics of those who endorse and perform those procedures. The entire trans-activist ideological narrative is incoherent and falls into the realm of science-fiction, and pseudo-science-- and doesn't rise to the level of actual science If 4 out of 10 parachutes fail, smart people wouldn't go skydiving, and it wouldn't be a surprise if those that did, went splat. People with psych issues, so severe that they contemplate and attempt to self-delete-- aren't exactly well-balanced people, by default.
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Who is in charge of preventing an avoidable pregnancy, if not those who can get pregnant in the 1st place?
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@mariec3733 For a sense of reading comprehension efficiency to kick in and to enlighten you as to the meaning of which I wrote, and that which is still clearly visible and legible?
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@Maksie0 Ya, pointing out your idi0cy all along the way
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@Nanajsiuz Gaslight harder
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@Maksie0 Perspective is a wonderful thing. How many? What percentage?
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No... As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those dudes weren't
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They're merely caricatures of that which they wish they were, and will never be. It looks like they still haven't figured out that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender yet. That's the root of their confusion
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The point, no doubt being to draw the distinction that they are in fact actually women, and the others are Not?
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@gentlemanfox1326 In the future, I recommend being relevant, as opposed to your chosen course
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@gentlemanfox1326 Islamophobe
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@fable_enthusiast I hate to break it to you, but there is only 1 kind of woman and as it turns out, she's born female-- and those dudes weren't
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@fable_enthusiast Your description is of your own mindset and capacity for reason, or the lack thereof, after being made aware that there is only 1 kind of woman, and that they're all born female. Learn it... Know it
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@markusbaker1161 Self preservation
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@markusbaker1161 the freaks
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@markusbaker1161 Apparently... Those men, aka trans women-- have an issue with women's privacy and gaining access to their toilets.
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@markusbaker1161 Of course not. Nonetheless, they have no business in the women's room. They're men
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@markusbaker1161 No, pretending those men have any business in women's private spaces-- based on the notion that they're women too-- to justify them being granted access, is the made up nonsense.
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@markusbaker1161 Pretending you're unaware of actual accounts doesn't erase those cases or invalidate them in any way. It only serves to eliminate any credibility you may have had, otherwise-- as it makes you appear disingenuous.
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@markusbaker1161 Again, You misunderstand. I merely recognize the reports, which address the court cases and the verdicts rendered. That you're unaware is a YOU problem
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@markusbaker1161 No, I'm okay with you remaining ignorant. Framing the narrative the way you have is absent of any integrity, and shows that you're disingenuous and foolish
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@markusbaker1161 You have established that you have comprehension challenges, when it comes to definitions, deciphering fact from fiction, and most notably deciphering the differences between men and women and coming to terms with the fact that biological reality isn't subject to change because of alterations in terminology. ex. The definition of gender: Gender refers to the sex assigned/observed at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. The social aspects of being male or female are socially constructed, and they're well-established since the dawn of time. That you wish to close your eyes to the facts, or protest about them-- change nothing.
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@markusbaker1161 I have established that you have no regard for women or their rights.
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@markusbaker1161 Your comments are the proof. Trans women are a social construct, in no way altering objective biological reality that they're men. Your unwillingness to admit it-- doesn't invalidate the truth of it
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@markusbaker1161 You should consult your physician about having your head removed from your backside. Facts and the truth that trans women are men triggers you, so you don't know what to make of it or how to act like an intelligent adult. No worries. The problem is yours
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@markusbaker1161 Yup, you're triggered. Look if you want to indulge the transgender 'community', nothing is stopping you. Your screeching over preferred speech by others, shows you’re so full of yourself that you think all other people must/should/need to-- participate in your cosplay/LARPing and cult terminology to make you feel alright, as if your blessing is worth something to the rest of the world. Total narcissism from you. I respond, so others reading can get the other side of the argument for their consideration. It's not about you at all If your identity/personal feelings is/are predicated on the notion that all of society must perceive you, as you perceive yourself-- contrary to objective reality then NO, your identity is not valid at all, except in your imagination.
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@markusbaker1161 :face-blue-smiling::face-green-smiling: That makes the term 'transphobia' impotent and totally useless. Like you no doubt
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@markusbaker1161 If you want to pretend those dudes are women, by calling them trans women-- go for it. Doesn't change reality If you want to acknowledge they're dudes presenting as women, and choose to refer to them as trans women, and choose to date them-- go for it. There's no stigma to being gay.
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@markusbaker1161 Your argument is fatally flawed, as is your logic. You just said,in the other thread that Trans "feelings aren't facts". Therefore the people who exist are male or female, not trans ANYTHING. Their feelings aren't facts invalidating the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species. Make the case for why someone who's XY should be considered XX (As would necessarily be the case, to substantiate the statement that trans women are women) or trans XX. Ready??? Go... Make it make sense 🦗🦗
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@markusbaker1161 Then quit asking for responses to the same intellectually stunted questions and comments you've been making. You can't make the trans activist narrative make sense, because it's insane
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@markusbaker1161 Ooh-- Irony. I did take my own advice and raised my own. Now, off you go take your own advise and mind your business. I told you-- I'm not interested in anything you have to say, unless it's an explanation as to why you believe those who you're putting your faith in, are correct, when their peers have articulated why they have issues with the conclusions, treatment protocols, and outcomes of their treatment. Why do you dismiss the opposing medical experts and professional's assessment and their reasoning?
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@markusbaker1161 You're a m0r0n
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@markusbaker1161 Exactly correct
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@markusbaker1161 Your failure to comprehend the answer is a YOU problem. You come near family or friend's kids-- you're getting what's coming to you
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@markusbaker1161 It wasn't a threat. It's a prediction. I don't hate people-- regardless of your claims to the contrary
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@markusbaker1161 You can't seem to stay away from me, leaving it at us agreeing to disagree. That's a clear demonstration of your hate
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@markusbaker1161 Yup 1 of 1 original. I told you, I support info that makes sense to me. Those medical expert professionals who oppose the ethics, treatment protocols, and horrible outcomes of those in whom you put your faith, have documented their reasons, and rational-- and they make more sense to me than those you believe-- who profit off the misery of others. You can't seem to accept that I told you we'll have to agree to disagree
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@markusbaker1161 Being 1 of 1 is what makes me special. It seems trans is more fringe than not, in all of world history. :person-turqouise-waving:
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@markusbaker1161 Okay, me too-- But, the one's who oppose your purported "experts" and for their reasoning and analysis which isn't incoherent nonsense.
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@mariec3733 Don't they? Fool
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@mariec3733 Some eat their own crap too, you going to do that too? smh 🤣😂
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Where psychosis and ignorance collide, clarity is seldom found. Women cannot become men and vice versa
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@pterodactylbull You should tell her that the trans ideology's narrative will lead to a near dystopian future, where she'll be oppressed by tyrannical men who will say they're women.
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MOST are not
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The thing is, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@Maksie0 The prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. Your inability to process that indicates you're kinda slow. . The only ones fooled are you and yours-- which are the vast vast minority.
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Nah... Just the media's portrayals if it.
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Rape accounts for only 1% of abortion cases. Your mountain just has been exposed as a mole hill.
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@Maksie0 Really?? If the capacity to process blatantly obvious eludes you-- then, life will prove to remain a challenge
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@clarissahinshaw6037 Nonetheless, XY doesn't define manhood. It only defines male biology. It's XY (Male), XX (Female), Birth Defect-- That's it. Gender is not disconnected from biological sex, and it refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent
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@clarissahinshaw6037 You seem irritated that I pointed it out. What's the problem?
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@clarissahinshaw6037 How so? Your OP is demonstrably false, and I explained how and why. You've failed to refute my explanations
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@clarissahinshaw6037 The entire trans movement is a giant gender stereotyping caricature of itself.
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@yk3315 I get her point. In the big picture, it's irrelevant-- which I attempted to illustrate-- but connecting the intellectual analytical dots is apparently challenging for some
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How is that implemented in stadiums, convention centers, and prisons-- where the restrooms must accommodate more than 1 individual at a time. It isn't very practical
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It looks like they still haven't figured out that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender yet. That's the root of their confusion
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That's wrong
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The kind that disconnects you from reality
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The rate is a ratio. That seems to cause you confusion, and as society has become more accepting-- the rates have not declined-- they're increased even after full surgery.
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@conor.3875 If You want to integrate into society-- then remember that it's YOU, who needs to adapt, not the majority who reject your LARP and cosplay. To insist that society must play along with your counter-culture position-- makes you seem arrogant, narcissistic, self-entitled and ridiculous. You're not the center of the universe and the world isn't going to reorganize itself to accommodate your subjective feelings, contrary to objective reality. You need to develop better coping mechanisms to deal with adversity, because not everyone is going to like you, or be accommodating. Now, YOU know
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He isn't any kind of 'She' either. All women are born female. That dude is unhinged from reality
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Ab0rti0n isn’t bodily autonomy, but choosing to use birth control IS, as is the choice to risk unwanted pregnancy's-- OR, not to.
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@Krotas_DeityofConflicts You sure are doing a lot of mental gymnastics to ignore the fact that the child which is in the womb is there because the mother facilitated herself becoming pregnant, when choosing to risk an unwanted pregnancy, by engaging in the one and only act which causes her avoidable dilemma. It is a living, developing human-- unlike a bacteria, so you fail to justify terminating the life of the innocent. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one driven like a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences? Innocent baby's shouldn't be terminated because adults can't act responsibly. You don’t want a baby, use a condom or take the pill, Or keep your legs together.
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@Maksie0 I don't incorrectly use grammar to misgender males, by referring to them as any kind of woman. Like I said, there is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female. Update your knowledge.
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@conor.3875 There's no legislation anywhere that opposes abortion in unusual circumstances, where the mother's life is in imminent peril.
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@Milo-nr9kc The answer to your question is, Yes-- they're still males. I already told you, "The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay" Looks like a lot of people still haven't figured out that gender in not synonymous with personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) yet, they appear to inappropriately conflating them as though they are
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@Maksie0 Your cult terminology is rejected. Cope harder
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@conor.3875 Women aren't the opposite of trans... Trans are the opposite of the standard of normalcy, making the cis prefix irrelevant and totally redundant
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@conor.3875 Bye... You don't matter
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@mariec3733 All that's possible is to alter their appearance. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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That dude is intellectually vacant and morally bankrupt
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Perhaps he was referring to a Satanic bible?
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Well, to ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where -- You'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are now-- women (in the workplace, on the sports field, in the restrooms, locker rooms, showers, and prisons).
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@ray8776 If gender were fluid as the ideology insists, the notion of gender equality would be a phantom and be entirely ridiculous. It seems they're suggesting that affirmative action, quotas, racism etc... are bogus concepts (If gender was actually fluid-- it's not). If gender were fluid, surely so is race, species, etc... etc... The entire ideology is incoherent
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"It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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The problem they have is the world is based in objective reality, and most don't have difficulty deciphering the difference between reality and the trans imagination.
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What pro-life people tend to do and recommend others do is-- raise their children, with the love of loving parents. Unfortunately, there are those who don't value the life of their own children, and couldn't care less about the rest, so much so that they advocate for the termination of the innocent in the womb.
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@Stop_It_Just_Stop My son is in his 30's, happy, healthy and successful. How many kids have you raised? The foster care system is mostly filled with kids who's parents have had them taken by cps. You tell me, How is it anyone else's responsibility, beside the woman herself's responsibility, to avoid facilitating her own unwanted pregnancy???
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@varyolla435 I noticed none of them provided ANY evidence to support the notion that the shots work as advertised
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@G3TJINX3D Ya, it really is. Women (ALL of them) are born female. A woman isn't a feeling, social construct or a costume. What one "goes through" or their 'feelings' don't alter objective reality in the slightest bit.
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Name the country, at the time of the founding of the USA that didn't have slavery. The Republicans abolished the slavery instituted by the Jacksonian Democrats
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@marsdavidson8307 What happened to you? You seem to have retreated back under the rock that you came from, illustrating that your entire rant was actually projection? It's You who run away when confronted. Pathetic
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Those are women, not men
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Woe to the feminists who go along to get along w/ this incoherent ideological narrative, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will say they're women-- and they don't even see it coming
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They can't accept their own reality, yet demand everyone accept their fantasy
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The idea that anyone could possible be confused about reality, and simultaneously be considered sane and rational is not a rational conclusion
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It's as though that was his actual role
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@markusbaker1161 Well, yes... Watching the video illustrates his lack of integrity, and interpersonal skills
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@markusbaker1161 You've refuted nothing whatsoever. Grow up
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, grow up. I get a notification, and I reply. I've been conducting my own research,gathering data on the arguments and the interactions of the advocates when challenged on their narratives and their ideology.
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@markusbaker1161 Never claimed to speak for anyone, but myself. The medical field is profiting off the psych disorders of those for whom you advocate affirmative care, on the psych front as well as the biological front. I question the ethics of that.
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@Maksie0 Yes, there is. It denigrates women by suggesting that there is another kind of woman other than those born female, and there isn't
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@Maksie0 Do you know what a woman is?
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A .45 would better prevent them from recidivism on another would be victim
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@Maksie0 GFY, gr00mer
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@thecolorblue1635 THAT explains your substance free commentary. Got it! lol
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@thecolorblue1635 Not me
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That wouldn't solve the dressing rooms, locker rooms, sports, sports teams or prisons issues.
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@Maksie0 Women are women-- regardless of how they self-identify, so using cis is redundant and none of anyone's concern but yours
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@markusbaker1161 It would be incorrect grammar and illustrate a lack of observational capacity and a lack of clarity-- on their part. Cope harder trans clown
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@markusbaker1161 That would be incorrect grammar
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@markusbaker1161 Monkeys can tell the difference between males and females. What's your excuse for your confusion on the matter? The prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. Your juvenile comments and inability to process facts indicates you're kinda slow. The only ones fooled are you trans clowns, and those quacks who affirm your LARPing and cosplay as being valid-- which are the vast vast minority.
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@markusbaker1161 That's because you're a m0r0n
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@markusbaker1161 No, it's because you fail to realize that they continue to reproduce because they know the differences. You're welcome
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@Maksie0 To believe individuals can have 100% control over their identity in society, what and/or how we are seen as by others, in interaction with, and in relation to, society/the world/physical existence is a fool's errand, and it is a delusional understanding of reality and existence.
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@Maksie0 Anarchist
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@Maksie0 No it isn't. Criminals being segregated from society in prison is a great thing.
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@Mel-wn9gb And those who promote their madness as normal
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@yogijazporter Life is not fair and people are not equal. People are 1 of 1
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@mariec3733 Ya, science fiction and pseudo-science.
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@mariec3733 Even a monkey knows the difference between males and females. What's your excuse? Take a walk
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@markusbaker1161 The fact that they reproduce is sufficient proof
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@markusbaker1161 You've lost that bet too. Look there's no science anywhere that proves men can become women-- so your narrative is done.
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@markusbaker1161 There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women, illustrating that your narrative is a totally bogus faith-based belief with zero evidence to support your claim that trans women are women. Checkmate / You lost
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@markusbaker1161 Until you prove that men can become women-- your entire narrative remains bogus nonsense.
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@markusbaker1161 Nope. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female, and those dudes- regardless of how much they mutilate themselves-- will never be women
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Men pretending to be women and infiltrating women's sports, locker rooms, dressing rooms, the work place and in prisons is a problem for a lot of women. Hope that clarifies it for you
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Don't worry about the women who care about it, is your position??
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@krasmasov6852 Smart people select the correct bathrooms to use. It's not surprising that people who suffer severe anxiety when faced with having to select the appropriate restroom have a major glitch in their capacity for intelligent analysis and coherent conclusions
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@krasmasov6852 That isn't a refutation by any measure. You've got nothing
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Wokeism indoctrination
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Prison is for punishment for crimes. Put them with the men, where they belong
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ROFLMAO... It's gonna be a LONG wait
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The solution already exists. The men use the men's room and women use the women's room. They aren't trans anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. Only 2 genders-- Male and Female. Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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That's exactly what they did. Half the panel are women
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@bananaboat1808 You should. I hope it provides some insight
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@ghjiufdtgvnj What a load of garbage... Try to focus-- There's only one kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Men cannot become women.
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@@malaika777 Men are still oppressed all over the world too. Quit your whining
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@quesadilla9957 How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or elevate their character to more than a base animal?
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@Quesadilla You have no answers, and no substance. Try being relevant
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@purplepurplepurple2162 They're tone deaf
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Soon... Very Soon. They're noisy, but the push back they're generating from the vast majority is building momentum
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@Maksie0 I think I am a 1 of 1 original, who isn't conflating personality with gender; and I don't think most people are confused and buying into your incoherent cult narratives.
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Half the panel are females
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If gender is disconnected from biology, why the need to transition-- biologically? If a girl, trapped in a boys body-- has an immutable male identity, how is it that gender is fluid? It seems like they're trying to re-name personality traits "Gender" and that's wrong too
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@nathanmccoy9188 Seems to me like they use it as a red herring argument, to manipulate and to virtue signal. The problem is they're wrong, and there's no virtue in their virtue signaling
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@TheLegendOfRandy Aww... you bumped your head. Moving on to something relevant-- You've failed to justify terminating the innocent in the womb
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@TheLegendOfRandy Why don't you raise your own? I raised mine, as a single parent.
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@TheLegendOfRandy Don't be a coward... the pending questions remain: Why don't/can't you raise your own? I raised mine, as a single parent. Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can choose to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, and poor family planning-- don't?
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Their ideology and narrative is entirely incoherent nonsense
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They're still women.
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The fact that the self-delete rates today are higher than they were prior to the implementation of affirmation-based treatment, and even after transition-- are nearly 40% higher than the general population, doesn't illustrate efficacious results, and on that basis I question the claims of the course of treatment being efficacious, as well as the ethics of those who endorse and perform those procedures. The entire trans-activist ideological narrative is incoherent and falls into the realm of science-fiction, and pseudo-science-- and doesn't rise to the level of actual science If 4 out of 10 parachutes fail, smart people wouldn't go skydiving, and it wouldn't be a surprise if those that did, went splat. People with psych issues, so severe that they contemplate and attempt to self-delete-- aren't exactly well-balanced people, by default. Surely, if it were possible to cure all psych illness and disorders-- there would be none. Alas, not all broken psyches of people are fixable-- and the answer isn't for the whole world's population to deny objective reality and pretend the LARP and cosplay is based in reality, for the sake of their feelings. Get Real! Think Again
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No, you don't affirm a delusion as though it's based in objective reality. Would you affirm an anorexic child's desire to lose more weight? I would hope not.
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What did he say that you thought was great?
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@user-le2hu1ct4t That dude is unhinged from reality. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Now you know better
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@Someone30056 There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. ZERO exceptions
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@C.C.tok3qwing *Him... That dude isn't a 'she'. ALL women are born female-- illustrating the use of cis/trans as intellectually vacant
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@computasaysnoo1 That's not hate. That's just being observant of reality vs the nonsensical madness that is promoted as though it were rational or reasonable. That's the sound of rejection by the vast majority of people-- of the cult narratives that the advocates and the ignorant cling to with intensity
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@joeclark1621 If the chromosome has a 'Y', it's a guy. Now you know Genetic disorders aren't another sex invalidating the binary. The exceptions to the rule don't invalidate the rule, they prove the rule by being the exception
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And the other half (Women) can't define 'woman'
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@joshbrown284 I wasn't intending to refute what you said. I was merely adding additional context to illustrate the incoherence of the trans-human ideology
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@giannapspsmeow When speaking to a friend, you wouldn't use a pronoun-- you'd use their name. How is this confusing? The exception might be if you say-- when speaking 'to' them, "You" are wrong. You wouldn't say to them, "'She' are wrong", or "'Her' are wrong".
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@Erik-fn7kj Again, your inability to discern the differences between males and females renders your opinion null and void.
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They have their own restrooms. They're called the Men's room
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It looks like they still haven't figured out that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender yet. That's the root of their confusion
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@mariec7352 Other than a rape scenario, which is 1% of cases-- Women are the ones who need to exercise control over their body's to prevent their own unwanted pregnancies, in the other 99% of cases-- rather than choosing to risk it, and facilitating their self-inflicted dilemma by engaging in the one and only that causes their dilemma. Not smart
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@mariec7352 You still have no valid argument, and have refuted nothing whatsoever. You're projecting again
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@sof7251 There have been varying personality traits from the dawn of time. It's nothing new. If you had a dollar for every gender, you'd have exactly $2.00 and a whole lot of forfeits. Your narrative attempts to rename personality traits, "gender", and that's not correct. It's actually rather disingenuous
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@sof7251 What happened to you Elena, you disappeared and seem to run away instead of answering my questions? What's up with that?
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@sof7251 Your reading comprehension deficit is proving to be a problem for you. Try re-reading only slower
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@sof7251 I don't know what that means to you.
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Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. They aren't trans ANYTHING. Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent
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@krasmasov6852 Activist endorsement? It's not a lie. Women cannot become men, and men cannot become women.
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@krasmasov6852 Reality prevents them. No worries though. Even though you don't get it, scientists in a thousand years, will be able to identify them as Male or Female regardless of their beliefs when they were alive, and in the case here-- despite their beliefs they held when they were alive-- Because Beliefs don't afford one the ability to transform reality at will
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The entire basis of the trans narrative revolves around their identity being primarily about their sex. How does that confuse you??? Regarding people, they are male or female, respectively. That's it! They're incorrectly discussing and confusing personality traits (which are not gender exclusive) and gender roles, which again-- are roles related to being male or female, respectively, with gender. Gender, there are 2. Personality traits and temperament-- there are a ton of variety. They're not synonymous. Learn the differences
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@lifeoftalise4390 There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born females. The failure to comprehend that is at the root of much confusion. Cope and seethe harder if you like, but it doesn't change the fact that those dudes aren't women of any kind
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Cis/trans are attempts by radical ideologues to distract from the fact that there is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- and that all men are born male, with zero exceptions, so they can pretend that their LARP and cosplay is based in reality
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@nathália lyssa Got it... 1st grade science confuses you
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@Erik-fn7kj You don't know much of anything
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@brandyroberts5037 The incoherent arguments made by these activist f00ls doesn't withstand the scrutiny of those who call out their idi0cy for what it is
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@Maksie0 Why?? ALL women are born female, and all men are born male-- making the use of cis/trans intellectually stunted, irrelevant and useless
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@miraculousk7547 Only 2 genders-- Male and Female. Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@miraculousk7547 Facts are awesome and stubborn things. The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. Not reasonable or rational by any standard. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. What's your excuse? Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct.
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@miraculousk7547 The one requirement to be a trans woman is being male. LOL that automatically makes you NOT a woman.
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@miraculousk7547 I think it's hilarious that you're trying to argue that gays and lesbians cannot decipher the differences between men and women. Ask them, I'm pretty sure they'll confirm their preferences when they're looking at them
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@miraculousk7547 You seem to have me confused with someone else. Someone who is in a dissociative state, believing that they're something other than what they are-- are delusional by definition. I don't refer to people, when communicating directly-- with pronouns. I use people's names. Don't you?? I perceive the differences between males and females, by merely being observant of objective reality. Perceiving someone as they perceive themselves subjectively, in contradiction to objective reality, is untenable.
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@AutisticKittyStar No, trans men are women with issues pretending that they're men without issues, and trans women are men with issues, pretending that they're women without issues.
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@Maksie0 There's only one kind of woman and they're all born female, making the use of cis/trans irrelevant and useless. Get a clue
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How others process adversity, isn't in your control. To believe we as individuals can have 100% control over our identity in society, what and how we are seen as by others, in interaction with, and in relation to, society/the world/physical existence is a fool's errand, it is a delusional understanding of reality and existence.
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If they're ok with their relationship, who are you to judge?
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There are only males and females. Those are dudes in disguise. They aren't trans anything
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Still is a dude. That status is fixed and permanent
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@Maksie0 Apparently yours does. You seem emotionally invested in the activist ideological narrative.
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@mr.mclibtard5015 Exactly. 💯🎯
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Their dissociative state is by definition, delusional
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Really??? Half the panel were women.
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@toeknee7146 Translation??
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The relevant point is drag queens, cross dressers and trans women actually are all men
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@markusbaker1161 That wasn't the point
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@markusbaker1161 The only point you have is the one on the top of your head
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@markusbaker1161 Your conclusions about the law, medicine and science are whacky, misguided and wrong. Your lack of logic and analytical capacity is clear
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@markusbaker1161 You're peddling their talking points. If you can't articulate why you think their narratives are correct-- you're a sheep
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@markusbaker1161 No, I debunked everything you've posted. You're ignoring that fact
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@markusbaker1161 No, rejecting the fairy tales you're peddling as facts
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@markusbaker1161 There are no facts on your side, supporting your narrative
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@markusbaker1161 Your choice to act like an idi0t renders your commentary invalid and less than useless
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@markusbaker1161 You don't know what you're talking about. Men can't become women and talking about their identity is irrelevant-- they're still men. Try being relevant
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@markusbaker1161 All that's wrong
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@markusbaker1161 You're wrong, and so are they. You're free to put your faith in those hacks you refer to as experts, and to pretend that those men are women because they altered their appearance and changed their wardrobes. Get your 20th booster
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@markusbaker1161 Still, No trace of an explanation of why you believe what you assert to be true and accurate, or to prove what I said to be inaccurate. You still fail to persuade
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@markusbaker1161 The trouble is not ignorance; it's just that you know so much that just isn't so
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@stinkygremlin267 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female-- respectively. The ideology is inappropriately conflating the variability in temperament and personality traits (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys)-- as gender, and that's a huge error on their part-- for those who embrace the narrative
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Were you attempting to display the sort of comment that someone who's shoe size dwarfs their IQ, would make? If so-- GREAT job
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@mica4977 One wouldn't use those preferred pronouns when speaking directly to another. You use them when speaking about someone to someone else
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@Erik-fn7kj Nope, they very much do not
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@Erik-fn7kj Illustrating the difference between smart people and the emotionally reactive
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@krasmasov6852 No, people have emotions. Politics are merely ideological goal posts
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@deezknotsonyourchin They're pretending that womanhood is a costume they can put on
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@markusbaker1161 Your suggestion otherwise doesn't invalidate reality. They're still men, and suggesting otherwise is what's absurd. They are not women
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They're not trans anything. They're LARPing at BEST
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Which comments and which message are you referring to?
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They don't care. They're only interested in themselves. Total narcissists
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@markusbaker1161 Your choice to remain irrelevant is noted
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@Maksie0 It does when the focus is biological sex.
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@Maksie0 A woman is an adult human female. Cite a study anywhere that proves a trans-woman is not a biological male aka an adult, human, male and is rather an adult, human, female. 🦗🦗🦗
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100 up votes
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@Maksie0 I'd say that she is a fictional character, not unlike trans
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@conor.3875 It's irrelevant.
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@conor.3875 The rights of men and women are clearly established. Trans women are men w/ issues, pretending that they're women without issues.-- Still men. Trans men are women with issues, presenting as men without issues.-- Still women. Now you know
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@wadanohara The self-deletion rates after the procedure, doesn't show well for the effectiveness of affirmation based treatment protocols, and calls into question the ethics of the medical and psych "professionals" who facilitate those procedures.
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Imagine if the activists for the whole animal rights movement would stand up for the rights of unborn humans, the same way they stand up for animal's and their offspring's rights. The final say on whether or not women are willing to risk themselves getting pregnant, when facilitating it-- is why they have no one to blame but themselves for their avoidable self-inflicted dilemmas. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one driven like a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences?
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No, that's incorrect. Don't conflate objective reality with subjective imagination
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@eveliinahannele You're responsible for your own actions. Own it!
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@lilnotmaster6094 "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@Maksie0 Yes, debates confuse you-- you've made that clear. You've so far-- established only your own ignorance and have refuted nothing whatsoever. shocker 😵😵‍💫
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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Why not? Do you believe your understanding of the science is sufficiently adequate? (Rhetorical) Well, there you have it
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@eveliinahannele Who's in charge of preventing that?
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@freedommatters7677 Who is responsible for preventing unwanted pregnancy, more than those who can actually become pregnant? Who's in charge of having facilitated that avoidable condition, in the first place?
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Because men don't occupy positions in government being the logic? wow
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@KingStr0ng It's Men, wishing they were women -- BUT they're still men, regardless of their cosplay and LARPing. Looks like President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho
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@Maksie0 Women are women-- regardless of how they self-identify, so using cis is redundant and none of anyone's concern but yours. Gender roles are constructed around the biological reality that there are differences between the sexes male and female, respectively. Your subjective trans clown identity doesn't alter your biology
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@Maksie0 Aren't you just a ray of sunshine on a cloudy day...
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@barbarayater4895 🎯
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@IZZY3201 I would've preferred that he elbowed Zoey Turr in the head, when he grabbed Ben
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@nincscsatorna2671 Nah-- just interested in the truth, and exposing the incoherent madness, for the intellectually vacant madness that it is. You seem triggered. I suspect it's because it is YOU, who are obsessed with the trans-activist agenda, and promoting it as valid. It's not
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@TheLegendOfRandy No one forced them to risk pregnancy. Get Real
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@athena6961 Sex is consent to the risk of pregnancy. DUH It isn't as if women don't know what they're risking. You come across as someone with the character and morals of a phone scammer
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1. They are not women 2. They're not trans ANYTHING. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after
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@tarapart6021 The inmates from the asylum are on the loose
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@cricketwastaken Obsessed with others? Nah... I'm not the one running around and screaming at the sky because others recognize you for what you are, in direct conflict with objective reality, and perceive you for who and what you are, which is in direct opposition to your self-perceptions. There are people. They are male and female. There are segments of each which present with birth defects and psych disorders, neither of which invalidate the binary of all mammalian species. Developmental sex disorders are not separate sexes/genders. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspect of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) and are incorrectly attempting to use the term as a synonym for/with gender.
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Expand your thinking. For all of human history men and women have been ruled over by Kings, Pharaohs, Etc... and it is they who declared wars and the people had no say about it.
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@theonionqueen3519 Nonetheless-- it is the answer. ;)
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@theonionqueen3519 There was actually a question marks in there, and I noticed you didn't bother to attempt any answers. Do Better
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@LanaW123 More like the lack thereof.
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@Maksie0 Who you are, doesn't require surgical alterations so you can pretend to be something you're not. Get a clue
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@mariec3733 Biology is objective. The fact that men and women are observably different isn't controversial for those who can decipher reality from fantasy. What's your excuse for the confusion?
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@babs_babs Doesn't matter. I'm not trying to persuade you. You and yours, are needing the rest of society to participate in your LARP and cosplay you, and the vast vast majority reject the trans-activist ideological narrative. Cope Harder
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There is however, a foundation and that is the fact that a woman is an adult, human, female-- and remembering that biological category is genetically fixed and permanent. Putting on makeup and a dress, and chopping off body parts doesn't change that. If you neuter your male dog and make him wear a dress, it doesn't make him a female dog. Just sayin Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will call themselves women-- And those feminists don't even see it coming-- or Do they?
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@brianwebberable How do you figure?
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They are still women. Their elaborate attempt to disguise that fact not withstanding
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@sodiumso6015 What then, do you call intentionally taking the life of an innocent human baby?
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@sodiumso6015 I highly recommend not using words that you aren't clear of the meaning. Look up the definition. It doesn't seem to fit. Why do you ask??
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@sodiumso6015 OK... And? Aren't fertility clinics where people who are trying to get pregnant, but are having difficulty go?
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@sodiumso6015 I am ok with people not terminating the lives of the innocent. Why are you advocating the opposite?
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@sodiumso6015 You do understand, I'm presuming-- the difference between abortion and people wanting to conceive and have children don't you?
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@sodiumso6015 Why do you ask? Is the difference between actively seeking to terminate an unwanted pregnancy via an abortion and actively trying to conceive with or without the assistance of a fertility clinic, causing you confusion?
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@sodiumso6015 Ooh, snarky... I replied back to your comment, and I had some questions about it. Can you not answer them? What is so hard about my questions, that you can't answer any of them? You wrote, "development of numerous fertilized eggs is ceased in clinics" (As if that's a bad thing). You do know what 'ceased' means, don't you? What's your problem with people seeking help with infertility, so they can have a family? Why are you against people who want to have families, while simultaneously advocating in favor of others who wish to terminate their innocent offspring in the womb? seems ghoulish, imo. Why are you triggered about whether or not I accept in vitro fertility treatment for those having difficulty trying to get pregnant? 'Because they've ceased the development of numerous fertilized eggs'?? SO-- What? Please clarify your point
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@sodiumso6015 That's not an answer to ANY of my questions. Don't be a coward. Why do you say it's a bad thing?? I understand exactly what you're driving at, and it leads nowhere. You think every specimen is intended to be implanted, resulting in a child in the womb? They're not; making the point you're trying to make irrelevant. You think every specimen results in fertilization taking place? You think every specimen is viable? Likely not, as that's the reason people are there in the 1st place. Do Better. I already told you... You should quit while you're behind
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@sodiumso6015 Cease means to stop. If they stopped doing that, Where's the problem?? You're not trying to have a conversation. You'e trying to evade having a conversation and drive an agenda, evidenced by not answering any questions.
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@sodiumso6015 How does that justify abortion?
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@mariec7352 The choice includes abortion, so-- pro-abortion is accurate
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@TheLegendOfRandy One of those choices results in the life of an innocent child being terminated, making it unjustifiable-- is the focus you seem to have difficulty assimilating, or refuting
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@mariec7352 Your inability to discern relevant information due to your cognitive dissonance is noted, and my comment to TLOR appears to apply to you as well.
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@mariec7352 Not a great testimony to your reading comprehension capacity, but it illustrates your cognitive dissonance, and projection clearly.
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@mariec7352 Your failure to comprehend my answer to the question doesn't invalidate my answer, it merely exposes your failure to comprehend it.
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@mariec7352 Why would you be under the impression that being pro-life/pro-birth was a problem for those on the pro-birth side with what those on the pro-choice advocate in favor of? It's the 'Other' choice that they have a problem with. Ya-- Go Away
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@mariec7352 The relevant focus of their advocacy is the choice to abort, the choice to give birth is what they're avoiding. It's not that f*cking difficult.
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@mariec7352 I'm acknowledging that I dismissed what they/you said, and that neither of you have yet refuted anything. No one cares what they said but you, and you've proven to be irrelevant. Your acceptance isn't required.
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@bgos4727 The vast majority of pregnancies are Not the result of rape, is the rule I am referring to. Glad to clear that up for you
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This entire comment section is filled with single damaged goods - women over 30, and activist trolls and confused teenagers, who's shoe size dwarfs their collective IQ
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@GrahamChapman Kick Rocks Groomer. Only 2 genders-- Male and Female. Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@mariec3733 You are not forced to have unprotected sex, if you want to chase pleasure, you have to bear responsibility for the possible outcomes. No innocent life should face extermination because of the lack of responsibility among adults.
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@mariec7352 Women aren't required to accommodate irresponsible men, and risk themselves becoming pregnant with an unwanted pregnancy, now are they? Try to focus
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@Joxar "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis with people [like marie] who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@mariec3733 Just calling it like I see it. Your admission and acceptance are not required. I'm under no delusion that there is a potential for a meeting of the minds, when it comes to philosophical issues about morality, such as issues like these-- which separate those who value life as something bigger than just an opportunity for self-gratification-- from those like you, who just don't.
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@mariec3733 If the shoe fits...it fits. You certainly haven't refuted anything here. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm just pointing out the incoherent things you've said-- and you are desperate to avoid it-- but the truth is not subject to your admission, acknowledgement, acceptance, denial, nor your understanding. Bottom Line: Women aren't required to accommodate irresponsible men, and risk themselves becoming pregnant with an unwanted pregnancy, now are they? Nature doesn't care about what you think they're entitled to do without repercussions and consequences nor does it care if you understand cause and affect or not. Try to focus
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@mariec3733 Says the comment section troll. Perhaps, try a nap and a baba. Your "acknowledgment", not unlike this latest "acknowledgment" of yours, unfortunately for you-- has been the opposite of substantive or persuasive, and the opinion of people who don't think life is valuable are summarily dismissed as less than useless and morally bankrupt
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Gender is directly related to male and female, respectively. Your ideology is conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence butch females, effeminate males and tomboys) with gender-- and that's incorrect. Intersex isn't another gender, it's a birth defect
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@1100-k2f That's wrong.
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@BeyondBloodDay You realize that sexual crimes ARE violent crimes right? More men raped in prisons. Next?
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@만약-s6h Well, according to the popular narrative, who are we to say what they identify as, right?
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@BeyondBloodDay Same reason that women in prison are in prison-- They committed crimes, went to trial, were found guilty, and sentenced to a prison term. Seems like the obvious answer to me. Hope that helps
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@BeyondBloodDay You wrote, "you're the same person who would argue women are weaker and men take more dominant roles and in the same breath say the weaker sex have more of a safe space. People like you will never make sense to the world." I would not make an argument. Facts are facts, and I would simply cite the well-established psychometric data on the topics you brought up. Life is not fair, and there is no guarantee of safety. There's a mandatory death sentence assigned to life. Get Real I wouldn't make the argument that those who suffer great anxiety when faced with having to select the appropriate restroom make, while simultaneously whinging about a white, male-dominated patriarchy at the root of a gender pay gap, while simultaneously insisting that gender is fluid. That is certain. That's incoherent nonsense
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@markusbaker1161 Knowing that my comments trigger you, because I'm not fooled into believing men are women due to a disguise, or altering terminology-- is just a perk.
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Trans women, Drag queens, and Cross dressers all have the same thing in common-- They're all men. That's the point
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@mariec3733 You're saying drag queens are portrayed by women, or would those be drag kings or some other name that doesn't change the fact that trans women are men, portraying themselves as the opposite sex??
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@mariec3733 All that's possible is to alter their appearance. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@mariec3733 I already told you, all they can do is alter their appearance.
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How so? I agree, however; likely for different reasons. Neither your anxiety about reality, your personality, your preferences, nor your fashion choices change your gender, and I suppose that might bug a group of guys pretending to be Cinderella for attention, but sometimes the truth stings. All women are born female, all men are born male (ZERO exceptions), and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, personality, preference or a costume.
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@Maksie0 Most couldn't care less about your cult terminology.
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@mariec3733 They do... It was their choice to risk a pregnancy, and without their consent-- it simply wouldn't have been possible in the 1st place. Perspective... Critical thinking, intelligent analysis, cause and effect, and the order of operations appear to still be proving most difficult for you. Why do you run from responsibility and accountability?
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@mariec3733 Rape victims deserve body autonomy, and their attackers took that away with their heinous crime. Terminating the resulting innocent child's life is not justified in that case either. In the other 99% of cases that were not a rape, the woman's body autonomy was fully in tact, when they chose to risk an unwanted pregnancy, as a consequence of they actions
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@CreativeUsernameEh "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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There's no such thing as trans people. There are males and females... That's it. A woman isn't a costume that men can simply put on. Women aren't a social construct. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those men weren't.
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There are a bunch of activist trolls pretending to be women, but argue like men in the comment section too
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They're not women... They're still men, and their skewed self-perception, and quirky fashion sense doesn't alter that fact, and neither does choosing to refer to them by another name like trans-women. Total lunacy
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@markusbaker1161 That's my general reaction, when they expect to be taken seriously by insisting on preferred pronouns
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@markusbaker1161 Considering that you've not proven anything I've written to be inaccurate or incorrect, your considerations, opinions and reactions couldn't possibly be less relevant, or even in the slightest bit-- interesting.
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@markusbaker1161 Considering that you've not proven anything you've said invalidates the fact that trans-women are merely men, by another name-- not women, nothing you've said is relevant
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@markusbaker1161 trans-women are men. Your argument is irrelevant
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@markusbaker1161 No they aren't, and you've failed to prove otherwise
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@markusbaker1161 A woman is defined as an adult, human, female. If you need further clarity about what that means, I recommend a medical university biology department
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 @markusbaker1161 The fact that you need clarification on the differences between males and females, says enough 🙄:text-green-game-over:
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@markusbaker1161 Are you able to cite any evidence that shows trans women are not biological men? I see them as synonymous
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@mariec3733 Yes, they are. Men and women aren't the same thing dear, and they're not interchangeable. Those who you refer to as trans women are men. Science and medicine has established that all mammals are male or female, respectively-- and that status is fixed and permanent. Black’s Law Dictionary defines woman as “an adult female human being.” What's your confusion?
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Ironically, Christianity is the reason for the idea that people are created equally and should be treated with dignity
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@rylandercoleman2740 Wow... You're really reaching now. Let's not pretend that "slavery" hasn't been around since the beginning of time and practiced by every nation on the planet. Here in the west, the Republicans abolished the slavery of the Jacksonian Democrats, however; it still exists today in Africa and the middle east. You know, the same people who enslaved their own people and sold them facilitating the slave trade. Ya, them-- They're still doing it today
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The continuation of the human race literally depends on men and women breeding. Crazy that this didn't occur to you. If you had a country of only women how long before they died out and became extinct? 😵‍💫 Answer: They would be the last generation. Just sayin... Well, the feminists who go along to get along are going to face a reality where they'll be oppressed by men-- claiming to be women in restrooms, showers, locker rooms, and in prisons and don't forget-- competing in the workplace, and screwing up women's sports.
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@Erik-fn7kj Wow... not even as deep as a baby spoon. Congratulations, you're irrelevant
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It appears only to be firing intermittently and at random.
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@markusbaker1161 A trans-community joke?
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@markusbaker1161 You need better material. Why should men (regardless of you renaming them Trans-women-- they're still men) be granted access to women's private spaces, based on their subjective identity claims, which aren't validated by objective reality?? Nothing still? Shocker... 🙄
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@markusbaker1161 You lose.
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@markusbaker1161 I already have, to my satisfaction.
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@markusbaker1161 Every time you've cowered away from answering a question, and/or fail to provide evidence for your assertions
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@markusbaker1161 How are those different from human rights?
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@markusbaker1161 You described human rights. What are the distinctions you're drawing that separate them from human rights?
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@Maksie0 I just laugh at your confused, indoctrination. You look and sound ridiculous. There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are
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@penny6688 Quit inappropriately conflating the wide variability in personality traits and temperament with gender. None are gender exclusive
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Jenner only altered his appearance. Still male The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@PiggiesInTheRain There are males and females. That's it... That biological status is fixed and permanent with all mammals. Certain segments of each present with various physical disorders, some with various psych issues and some with both. Now you know. A woman isn't a costume that men can put on, and she isn't a social construct. She's an adult, human, female and as it turns out-- the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female.
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The Cooler Mira Islam I personally couldn't care less if they choose to cosplay and LARP, however; That doesn't make them that which they're portraying-- in reality and it certainly doesn't justify granting them access to women's private spaces
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The Cooler Mira Islam As it turn out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman, and that's being born female and those dudes weren't. They're not banned from having a quirky fashion sense and using the appropriate male restroom
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@Maksie0 You don't appear to understand how critical thinking works
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100% Correct
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@mariec3733 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. You seem to think gender is synonymous with personality traits and temperament. That's wrong
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@mariec3733 Male and female (The biological quotient) are what the social constructs you're getting hung up on are connected to, pointing out the 2 genders. Again, you're conflating gender and gender roles (The roles males and females fill in society). Gender-- There are 2
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@mariec3733 The rest of your schtick, where you pretend I said the opposite of what I said and base narratives and conclusions around that is asinine and foolishness. I never claimed sex is a construct. You are the one conflating biological sex with social constructs, when you incorrectly claim that trans women (men) are women. Altering one's appearance doesn't change one's sex, and neither does one's imagination that they're the opposite sex. Not sure how you got that twisted, but now you know
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@mariec3733 The social aspect of gender is relating to being male or female, respectively-- and men who are portraying themselves as females are still males. Your confusion on the matter seems clear
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@mariec3733 You appear to suggest and think that observing physical attributes is a social construct? That's weird
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@mariec3733 The definition I found says: Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. If gender is not biological, why should those men be granted access to women's private spaces-- which are designed and implemented based on biology, because of their subjective feelings about their gender???
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@mariec3733 Copy paste my definition into a search engine and it should come up. The comment gets deleted if I link to the source or even mention the source name. SO LAME
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@mariec3733 Regarding violent crimes, men are the victims and perpetrators of violent crime at a higher rate than women. Look it up My solution is, men use the men's spaces and women use the women's spaces. If someone is trans-- they should use the spaces that corresponds to their biology, not their feelings and imaginary persona-- which is in conflict with their biology
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@mariec3733 When I copy it into a yahoo search, it's the 2nd one that pops up. Don't know what to tell you
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@mariec3733 You don't agree with the definition and dismiss the validity of the definition. Fair enough Well, I don't agree with your definition and dismiss the validity of your chosen definition. Fair enough I've made my case why I believe I'm correct and you are not. You, on the other hand, have not made yours
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@mariec3733 So confirmation bias is what you seek? Wrong guy here. I've made my case why I believe I'm correct and you are not. You, on the other hand, have not made yours. EVEN IF I agree that gender and sex are not connected (I don't)-- You STILL haven't explained how it is that those biological men are justified in being granted access into women's private spaces-- since you admit that you believe that sex isn't affected by or connected to gender, it doesn't make sense to say that trans women are women. Do you have any original thoughts on the challenges I brought up about your point of view, definitions and disjointed absence of logic in your narratives? If not-- We'll leave it at agreeing to disagree
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@mariec3733 So-- That's a No, re: original thoughts on my challenges to your assertions. Got it
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@buttcheek1964 No, not even close. Cutting off your pecker doesn't make you a woman. It makes you a guy who cut off his damned pecker. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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@Maksie0 Because there's only one kind of woman, and as it turns out the prerequisite for being a woman is being born female-- making the cis label irrelevant
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@Ey3_s0cEt.4.20. An adult, human, female.
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@eluneee00 ❄
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@samhulst How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition, and are then considered "rational"?
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@Dawaza Gaming Leftists continually letting r@pists out of prison again and again... seem to foster the ability of predators to do their thing, wouldn't you say?
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@kysscum111 Nope... There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all -- as it turns out-- born females making the use of cis entirely nonsensical, redundant and irrelevant
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Don't let them fool you. There is only 1 kind of woman, and you're born female.
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@lulu..moonlight3442 Birth control is a means for preventing you from getting pregnant. It doesn't always work, and you know that-- so YOU assume the risk of getting pregnant, when you're out there creating the risk you say you're desperately trying to avoid. You just want an easy pass to be promiscuous without any consequences. Well, there's no such thing. Please NEVER procreate. Get your tubes tied, since you have such a vested interest in maintaining your pursuit of promiscuity on demand
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It's XX, XY, Birth defect.... That's it.
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Guys are by far-- the victims of violence, much more than women. Get a clue
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@mariec3733 Only the socially constructed gender roles are social constructs, and they relate to being male or female, respectively. If you identify as other than your biological reality, it in no way justifies you to be granted access to women's private space. Make it make sense
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No... Just, No.
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@ninadaly7639 It's not for the whole world to accommodate the vast vast minority. It's for those people to adapt to reality. You hear that??? It's the sound of men and women EVERYWHERE rejecting this incoherent ideology for the bull 💩that it is. Don't believe me? Ask Budweiser
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@Anon Ymous You appear to still be failing to discern that there's another party at fault for the accident, where as in the case of women facilitating their own risk of pregnancy-- there is no one else to blame.
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@Anon Ymous Easy... Never! How does forced donation not conflict w/ your position on advocating body autonomy? You're conflicted
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The term is totally irrelevant and useless-- as there is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females.
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@conor.3875 Doesn't mean there's any other kind of woman, other than those born female
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That's because they shadow ban and delete comments which challenge the assertions of their ideology and narratives, like cowards and disinformation agents would
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@m1lkyways Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. Cope Harder it's *He
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No, the truth is they were born who they are, and do everything in their power to change reality because they're unhappy and so-- alter their appearance to be like that which they are not and can never be.
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@Akwakween No, indulging one's delusions isn't altering reality-- At All
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@geraldbrooks8507 Humans are mammals, and all mammals are in fact binary. Quit conflating personality traits and temperament with gender and gender roles, as though they're synonymous. They just aren't
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@Maksie0 Looks like you need to have a baba and a nap. Anti-social and cranky aren't the way to a peaceful, fulfilling life.
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They've gotten it totally wrong on gender. Gender (There are 2) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Then, they inappropriately conflate gender, personality traits and temperament-- as though they're synonymous and they are not. They should learn the differences. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate male and female. Then, they conflate men and women. It's totally incoherent nonsense that they're peddling
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@mariec3733 There are males and females. That's it... Now you know. A woman isn't a costume that men can put on, and she isn't a social construct. Update your understanding to comprehend the fact that personality and gender aren't synonymous
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@phthisis Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then your identity is not valid.
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@graennleaf4769 Psych disorders nonetheless, not biological reality. They're only caricatures of that which they wish they could be, and NEVER will-- women
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@markusbaker1161 You shouldn't laugh at them. It's not their fault they have psych issues
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@markusbaker1161 Your limited comprehension capacity is a YOU problem
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@markusbaker1161 It appears to me that Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They appear to be misgendering themselves.
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 @markusbaker1161 No, that's the sound of reality pointing out and rejecting your imaginary bull 💩
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@mollysmith2004 They can identify as a Klingon, have a surgeon alter their appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, prescribe hormones etc... and it doesn't make them an actual Klingon, and if they think it does-- it proves they're delusional
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@beeeboopbeepboop The correct term is 'dude'
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@demongrave6666 That's what Groomers would say
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Allowing? Get a grip
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@briannachilders772 Looks like you need to figure out the difference between personality traits and temperament and quit conflating them with gender
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@conor.3875 Men use the men's room. PERIOD Full stop. Dudes in drag are entitled to use the men's room too
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@fruitguzzi9122 Restrooms are designed around sex, not feelings. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@jasonb111222 Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally due to a psych disorder, attention, or Both. That you can't wrap your head around that is a You problem.
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@pbufh Requiring a surgical solution to a psych issue is the point, illustrating just how incoherent the trans-activist ideological narrative is
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They're merely caricatures of what they wish they were. If the validity of one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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They say gender identity and sex are separate, but haven't been able to justify encroaching on spaces designated segregated based on sex, as an entitlement. Not even close They also haven't come close yet, to being able to justify the expectation that just because they present and identify in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must treat them as though they're the opposite sex. It's absurd
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How about, No. Not a solution.... It doesn't address lost scholarship opportunities, Dressing Rooms, Changing Rooms, Showers, Locker Rooms, or Prisons
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Rather than signal virtueless virtue signals, how about instead, say something substantive? They call men toxic, but when those men call out their toxic female empowerment, then the females label the men bigots and sexists.
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They're not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier.
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@blackseagorgon Nonsense. "Socialism has a history of failure so blatant, that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it".-- T. Sowell
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Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1. Your body and brain develop & grow together -> You simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2. Hating a part of you body so much, that you cut it off, is a mental illness.
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@toastedcoconutmarsh Their comment here suggests they believe they have something to contribute.
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There's a current story regarding trans women in a female prison who impregnated multiple women; Because they are still 'Men'. Get a clue
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HA... Best of luck in your near dystopian future, where you'll be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will say they're women
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If Democrats are so concerned about women and girls being raped, why do they release rapists from prison over and over?
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@earbunnyisgloomy9613 They're the evil leading the deceived and the psychopaths and sociopaths
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It occurs to me that the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female, and those dudes weren't. How do you figure they're women???
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Nothing?? Anything??? Well, all I can think of is woe to those like you because in your near dystopian future you'll be oppressed by tyrannical men who will claim they're women. You don't even see it coming do you?
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@roslyn-rose124 It's redundant. There are males and females and that condition is fixed and permanent. There are segments of each which have birth defects and psych issues. How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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They're not women-- and can never be women. It's really not complicated. Why should they be acknowledged as women?? They're men
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@markusbaker1161 You said, trans women ARE women and that's incorrect
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@markusbaker1161 Nope, that's totally wrong.
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@markusbaker1161 Those hacks you refer to as experts are challenged by their peers in the medical community, who take issue with the ethics of those who you put your faith in. Your cult is rejected.
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@albamg04 Knowing that, women risk getting pregnant when they 'choose' to engage in the act which causes pregnancy
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@mariec3733 I never suggested that men shouldn't be responsible. I said if a woman doesn't want to risk getting pregnant-- she doesn't have to choose to indulge in the behavior that risks it
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@Maksie0 That's wrong. Women who are trans are trans men-- according to your own insane cult terminology. Get a clue
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@TheLegendOfRandy Women know they're risking pregnancy thereby consenting to the known risk-- when they choose to engage in the one and only act which causes it. It's her own reckless driving, so to speak, not someone else's fault.
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@TheLegendOfRandy The drunk driver-- using your analogy, is the pregnant woman, who facilitated her own unwanted pregnancy, not another driver
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@mariec7352 The woman is the one who gets pregnant. If she wanted to avoid it, she could have and should have. She's the one who is in charge of engaging in the one and only action which causes pregnancy, not 'another' driver. The analogy is inane
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@mariec7352 She's the driver of her own body, and if she wants to avoid a pregnancy and then chooses to drive her body directly into a pregnancy, then she's clearly the cause of her own dilemma
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@mariec3733 Cite the thread where you allege I wrote that, which you are quoting. Name the person who started the thread and how many days ago. 🦗🦗🦗 It's just false.
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@mariec3733 You said, not all lives are valuable since they're not making life "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of". Therefore, not all women's lives are valuable, therefore-- not all women would or should then deserve bodily autonomy, since they're not making the baby's life (You know-- the one they facilitated when they chose to risk pregnancy) "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of"??? Your position seems incoherent
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@mariec3733 When asked by HK 4lyfe if you believe all life is valuable -- you said, "All human life? Definitely not. Lol. Have you seen the world lately?" You said, "I think it's only valuable 'IF' we make it just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of than we do to simply enforce more births, which we do not" You want fully grown and fully capable adults to first be, "Taken care of" (?), to be "Supported"(?), to be provided care for (?), to be made happy (?), and "to be taken care of" (?)-- before life is considered valuable? How self-entitled are you? wow... And who are these people who are supposed to be the adults in your perpetual state of adolescence, providing for you? Grow Up No worries. I don't expect you to admit to the truth, as you've lied about things you've said, and have made false allegations about things I've said-- many, many times, and the comments are all there to validate what I'm saying, So..... You're exposed as an antagonist, activist troll-- who has failed to make an argument with any integrity. I mean it isn't as if you haven't proven that you argue and agitate at every opportunity for sport, while disingenuously engaging in what I'd compare to a phone scammer's ethics, with a politician's evasiveness, failing to ever directly answer a question honestly. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Just pointing out the incoherent things you've said-- and you are desperate to avoid it-- The truth is not subject to your admission, nor your denial.
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@mariec3733 Same to you... It's entertaining to see you try to spin what you wrote to seem like I don't understand, and then to project what you're doing onto me. Hilarious Do Better
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Criminals are going to be criminals so, abandon all laws, is your implication? Not too bright
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Regarding gender-- There are 2, male and female, and one's personality, quirky fashion senses, or active imagination doesn't alter that permanent state. You don't use pronouns when addressing people in the 1st person, you'd use their name, and to use a pronoun that is in conflict with objective reality would be grammatically incorrect. Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is respectable. If your subjective identity is in conflict with objective reality, then that identity isn't valid. People aren't obligated to indulge the LARPing or cosplay.
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@mariec3733 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and references the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. In reality, male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. A woman isn't a costume that men can simply put on. Women aren't a social construct. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those men weren't. Now you know
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@mariec3733 If the basics of grammar elude you, then get a refund from your school.
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@mariec3733 Your ideology is incoherent. You get it wrong on gender. Then you conflate gender with personality traits and temperament as though they're synonymous-- and they are not. Then, you conflate gender and gender roles. Then, you conflate males with females.
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@pan thornberry It's madness
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition? and why then, are they attempting to normalize it and have it considered "rational"?
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@mariec3733 ❄🧁
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If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? In other words: If a girl, trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (supposedly the reason for transitioning), How can gender be fluid and separate from biology? Answer: It can't
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@HoloTWWOriginal BULLSEYE... That putz reminds me of one of those foreign phone scammers... ZERO integrity
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@Maksie0 There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are
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@sirliom Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then-- your identity is not valid.
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Pure comedy... If they don't have an issue with their friendship, who are you to judge? Preferred pronouns... LOL First of all, pronouns are objective and 2nd-- you wouldn't use those preferred pronouns when speaking to someone. You'd only use them when speaking about someone to another, and if their preferred pronouns are contrary to reality, it would be grammatically incorrect to use them as they might prefer.
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That's wrong. Men and women need each other to propagate the species. Get a Clue
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That dude isn't a woman of any sort. He's totally detached from reality. There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female
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@nickronca1562 There was no one forcing anyone to risk pregnancy. Get Real
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@Ramzeis Wokeism tends to devour itself, so that's fine for those places which choose to do so
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@Ramzeis They're wrong, so they've already lost. They just don't see it It's already started
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It's the only grammatically correct choice
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@bullsbattlebonanza5377 I'm not trying to convince anyone. People are free to pretend that they don't recognize the differences between men and women if they want to. Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is actually respectable. If your subjective identity relies on the participation of others denying objective reality,then that identity isn't valid.
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@yumalove7411 Apparently, not women who object to being labeled 'cis-women'
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@justyana488 Last time I check, Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not-- Smart@ss
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@justyana488 How does one's imagination, and subjective sense of self invalidate objective reality?? 🦗🦗🦗 I mean, If it did-- everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then how is that identity valid? 🤡🌎
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Every metric shows home schooled kids do better in every category. Quit blowing bubbles
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@markusbaker1161 You don't care
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@markusbaker1161 uh huh...
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Unfortunately, they're the exception to the rule, and we all know that the exceptions do not invalidate the rule, they prove it by being the exceptions. That said, still women-- they're not trans anything
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@MrJ6000 Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people-- who don't live in reality about there being two genders. They can have a surgeon alter their appearance and prescribe hormones to make them appear like a Klingon from Star Trek, but it doesn't make them an actual Klingon, and those who would believe it does-- are delusional.
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@MrJ6000 Yes sir... Like I've been saying, Biological women are the only kind of women. Trans people aren't 'trans' anything. A woman is an adult, human, female and that biological category is fixed and permanent They're still the same sex and gender prior to altering their appearance and messing w/ their natural body chemistry, as they are after.
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What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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These delusional living memes illustrate the need for more asylums
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The final say on whether or not women are willing to risk themselves getting pregnant, when facilitating it-- is on women-- and that is why they have no one to blame but themselves for their avoidable self-inflicted dilemmas. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one driven like a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences?
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Why? She knew that she was risking pregnancy when she facilitated her own dilemma
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@user-ky1zz2ih7m Without a DNA test, it's impossible to say. She may be hooking up w/ multiple partners. Lots of 'And you are Not the father' shows out there. Bottom line: She is the one who's risking herself getting pregnant w/ an unwanted pregnancy-- and all the associated risks that go with that, when she facilitates her risk. She has an obligation to herself to avoid getting pregnant, if she's the one who decides that a pregnancy is unwanted.
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Because 80+% of the people on earth are religious should be a sufficient reason
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They're narcissists, and self-entitled brats-- with psych issues. It's not really surprising
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There's more $$$ in treatment than cures
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@varyolla435 There's no evidence this shot works as advertised. There is a ton of evidence to the contrary though.
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@jupiterfox7683 The term cis has nothing to do with gender. It's used in chemistry to describe the position of certain molecules in reference to others. There's only 1 kind of woman, and as it turns out-- she's born female.
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They're activists
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They would be used as bait
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@Maksie0 Why are you presuming their identity?
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@Maksie0 That looks more like a description of You, and what you do for this channel/organization
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@TheLegendOfRandy What do you remember having for lunch 3 years ago on December 3rd? Your gap in memory isn't a justified reason to end you, either. Yet another example exposing you, presenting another irrelevant & impotent, hollow attempt to excuse the unjustifiable wasn't necessary. Your credibility has already been denied for cause
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Their choice to risk their body getting pregnant and losing the bet is one of the reasons for their unhappiness. They're their own wrench in the spokes, running from accountability like it's the plague.
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@mariec3733 It takes two, however; still Not possible without the woman 1st consenting to risk getting pregnant. Why do you ask?
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@mariec3733 You're a triggered and established activist troll, and exposing you as such has been delightful, and has also rendered you and your opinions void and less than useless. You appear to now believe that life has value... Why not for the innocent in the womb?
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@mariec3733 I have never heard of a male creating a child by themselves, without a woman involved in the process. Have you? Well... Have you? Answer: No, you have not. All of your nonsense, trolling and stalking just to attempt to pretend a woman doesn't have any culpability for their choices to risk pregnancy, as if they had no control to avoid an unwanted pregnancy (Obviously not talking about a rape). What's up with that?
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@sof7251 The problem you have with your virtue signaling, is the total absence of any actual 'virtue' in any of your unhinged whinging. You're entirely disingenuous, and have run away every time I've asked the following, Is it because I'm too real for your sensitive self??? If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? 🦗🦗🦗 In other words: If a girl, trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (supposedly the reason for transitioning), How can gender be fluid and separate from biology? Answer: It can't 🦗🦗🦗
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@Maksie0 Not even close to a 'She'. That dude is unhinged from reality, and so are you if you think he's a 'she'
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@conor.3875 If sex and gender are truly independent, then why do trans men and trans women go through so many hoops to change their primary sex characteristics??? You’re not trying to change your gender, you’re trying to change sex…. Make it make sense WAY TOO Many are conflating sex/gender (There are only 2 male/female, and segments of each present with various physical issues, some with psych issues, some with both-- none of which alter the fact that their biology is male or female) with gender roles (These vary from culture to culture, country to country and society to society, BUT-- they all (without exception) refer to the roles of males and females in those cultures, countries, and societies) and personality (There are a ton, and NONE are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) as if they're all synonymous, and they aren't.
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@conor.3875 You fail to persuade.
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@Maksie0 No, they aren't. If they were, insisting on the 'trans' qualifier would be even stranger than it already is
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@ryanthomas9306 Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@Maksie0 You believe that huh? LOL
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@charcoalgea2863 Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is respectable.
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@charcoalgea2863 As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female, and those dudes-- were not
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What about him do you love?
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The trans-human ideology is incoherent. They suffer high anxiety when having to select the appropriate restroom, while whinging away about a white, male-dominated patriarchy at the root of a gender pay gap, while insisting that gender is fluid, because cause and affect elude their single-digit IQ capacity
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@CrebbiFR Half the panel are women
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@tankgurl87 Men don't evolve into women and women don't evolve into men.
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@tankgurl87 No amount of attitude affects the objective reality that all men are born male, all females are born female, and neither is a social construct, feeling, preference nor a costume.
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@m.edenking9113 What are you talking about?? You've established nothing and refuted even less.
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@m.edenking9113 I would've loved it, if someone bothered to point out that if the trans-activist ideology were correct, it would prove the gender pay gap a total myth. I would have loved to see their heads explode
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@nonon8952 When you portray yourself as something you aren't, that's appropriation-- and that's odd
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@nonon8952 The truth matters, and your side of the debate desperately wants those on the other side of the isle to care, so what's your deal? Why don't you care about the truth?
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I notice they use that as a way to invalidate the actual contribution men make by failing to address the responsibilities males have in society. Too bad nobody asked if the pro-trans agenda intended to prove that the gender pay gap is a myth, by maintaining the ideology's insistence that gender is separate from biology and fluid.
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Is that like some sort of a Zen riddle? Half the panel are women, who chose to alter their appearance to be like men.
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@mariec3733 If it isn't reported, you have no way of verifying your claim.
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Because a Berth certificate is the marker for the establishment of a Trust, which is put in place for the minor child, so when they come of age-- they can operate in commerce, in the admiralty jurisdiction
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@acemxe8472 "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".--T. Sowell That individual, marie c-- is a troll
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@freedommatters7677 No not a bot, and that's still not a refutation to anything I've said-- Troll
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@wafflecone2481 Don't want to risk pregnancy-- Don't engage in risky behavior which is entirely avoidable. You just want a free pass to indulge your promiscuity
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Using pronouns correctly is not what these women are insisting upon. Using them incorrectly, Is-- They wish to be recognized as something they're not and can never be ie. Men. Their altered appearance doesn't change their gender. It's sad
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Transgender= Gender pretender
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@jtc1ra Even if that were correct-- That in no way invalidates what I wrote. Trans women are Men with issues, engaging in LARP and cosplay, pretending that they're women without issues-- Still men
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@markusbaker1161 That's what you do. You ignore the fact that a woman is an adult, human female and trans-women aren't that
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@markusbaker1161 NEWSFLASH-- trans women, cross dressers, and drag queens are all men. Cope harder
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@markusbaker1161 Your confusion about the difference between facts and opinions is noted. Cite any study, from any expert that confirms your statement. I dare you
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@markusbaker1161 Then, you admit trans women are males/men, merely presenting as females/women. Their subjective internal identification and feelings are irrelevant- objectively.
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@markusbaker1161 The notion that any evidence exists anywhere, of a human transforming from one sex into the other-- has not been established in any medical publication. It simply doesn't exist. If your identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must perceive you, as you perceive yourself subjectively, counter to reality then that identity isn't valid as far as everyone else is concerned. You can live in your bubble if you want.
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@markusbaker1161 Why would I? That's not my assertion. They're men. Of course, they're valid people
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@markusbaker1161 I recognize that men and women have human rights
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@markusbaker1161 Acknowledging that they're humans, re-read the above comment
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@markusbaker1161 Are they somehow different than individual human rights?
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@markusbaker1161 Why are you afraid to answer my question, asking you to articulate how they differ from human rights?
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@markusbaker1161 You, having failed to articulate how they vary from basic human rights, I don't recognize them. No
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@markusbaker1161 Those trans women aka men, want to be called trans women so they can pretend they're not men. The reason you insist on calling them trans women is so you can pretend they're not men too, or you really can't tell the difference. Either way-- they're still men.
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@markusbaker1161 You don't know a lot of other things too, apparently.
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@Maksie0 No, they're still men. The 'T'' community disagree with you, as they call women who are trans-- trans men. Adjust your talking point to something coherent-- for a change
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No, gender roles are a social construct and they deal with the roles that males and females fill, in society.
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@qr-eh9es Because gender is biological (There are 2- male/female) and it is not synonymous with personality or temperament (there are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys), or with gender roles -- which refer to the roles of males and females in society, and they vary from culture to culture, society to society and from country to country-- which ALL refer to the roles of males and females.
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@qr-eh9es No... You're conflating gender with gender roles as though they're synonymous, and they aren't.
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@mariec7352 Relax cupcake
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@UC019OLaAbDi11H-c2fCk8_g Quit your sniveling. I don't think it's a matter of being male or female-- it's a matter or morality, or rather lack thereof in your case
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@mariec7352 Never said they weren't. When they do-- they risk creating a new life, so should make better choices, if they don't wish to facilitate their own avoidable dilemma.
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Because if you want to fight to change something, you first need to know and understand what it is you're changing, and what you want it to change to-- to determine what needs to change so you can come up with a way to facilitate the change you seek
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@Maksie0 transphobes are only a social construct
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, those males and females are an extreme minority of society-- still males or females, respectively. Prioritizing their feelings as a distinction, justifying them being recognized as 'other than men' like in Blossom's case, in defiance of objective truth isn't rational.
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@markusbaker1161 The logic it takes to say that someone who has a host of other behavioral/mental disorders (as nearly all dealing with transgenderism do) and is willing to mutilate themselves in irreversible fashion to achieve a status wherein they're still dozens of times more likely to commit sui**de ISN'T mental illness, is amazingly twisted. Insert any other condition and any other incessant desire to self-harm and there would be no dispute whatsoever.
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@markusbaker1161 Four-- shut the door
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@Maksie0 Normal? So, you're admitting that there is a normal, against which all others are measured? What's your point? There are males and there are females... that's it-- and segments of each present with various physical and psych issues, some with both.
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@CaptainChapin Your comment seems to prove the saying true. If you want to anger a conservative, tell them a lie If you want to anger a lefty-- Tell the truth. Don't be mad... Educate yourself
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@CaptainChapin There's nothing phobic about realizing that they're not that which they claim to be- It just makes one observant. The thing is, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and their natural body chemistry. Still men. Calm down-- you can still enjoy your cosplay
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@Maksie0 Yup
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How many kids have you raised who've become well-adjusted, happy, productive, adult members of society?
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@ajrod2005 Cope harder. The point is, raise your own kids and leave the parenting of other people's kids to their parents
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@ajrod2005 LOL... Gaslight harder. Who is this ''we", you're referring to? Trans women are men with issues, pretending to be women without issues
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@mariec3733 You're still triggered by those who reject your cult narratives, it seems. You better learn to cope with rejection, because the vast majority reject your trans-activist cult narratives
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@CreoleWolf Do you have any stats re: tomboys that end up presenting with gender dysphoria vs those who do not?
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The narrative is attempting to rename the variability in personality traits and temperament (neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence tomboys, effeminate males, or butch females), 'Gender', and that's just incorrect.
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@CreoleWolf I have no stats to support your claim at all. That's why I asked you for them. You made the claim, so the burden of proof is on you. The stats I have seen are from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental disorders (DSM 5) and they are showing, "Among [biological males], approximately 0.005 percent to 0.014 percent are later diagnosed with gender dysphoria. Among [biological females], approximately 0.002 percent to 0.003 percent are later diagnosed with gender dysphoria. Being that gender dysphoria is so extremely rare, according to the stats from the American Psychiatric Association-- Some would argue that Most trans people do not in fact suffer from true gender dysphoria, rather are merely unapologetically embracing their own perversions. I've said it before, and I'll say it again... You can get a surgeon to alter your appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek, but it doesn't make you an actual Klingon, and the same is true regarding gender reassignment surgery. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect. That's It. BTW, Intersex is not another gender, it's a birth defect. Tell me more about your stats
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No one cares
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@KindlyKalen If that were true, you wouldn't require everyone to participate in and affirm your LARP and cosplay, including your pronouns-- as though they were based in objective reality.
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@KindlyKalen Words mean things, so people can communicate. Get a clue. Quit conflating personality with gender and gender roles, as though they're synonymous... They aren't
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@conor.3875 It's as if you believe your opinion matters... It doesn't
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@KindlyKalen You're not the center of the universe, your feelings couldn't be less relevant. Off you go...
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@KindlyKalen Don't care. Men cannot become women and women cannot become men. Cope Harder
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@conor.3875 Yes, you are
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@conor.3875 Aww, how cute-- you seem to think your opinion is valuable-- That's wrong
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@KindlyKalen All they can do is alter their appearance-- Still men. Cope with that
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@KindlyKalen No... Gender roles are a social construct, and they address the roles of being male or female only... in society's. Quit conflating gender roles, gender, and personality as though they're synonymous-- They're Not
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@TheLegendOfRandy Dude, that analogy has been debunked so many times already. You really need some new material.
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@TheLegendOfRandy In the case of a woman's unwanted pregnancy in 99% of cases (not including rape), as it relates to your drunk driving t-bone accident analogy-- The woman is the drunk driver in your story, consenting to driving drunk/risking her own crash/unwanted pregnancy by her own actions, without a care in the world about the consequences to herself or anyone else, and her baby is the one who get's t-boned, as she crashes her car driving drunk. Not ok...
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@TheLegendOfRandy The woman is not a victim, unless it's a rape case. In the other 99% of cases-- She's the root cause of her own avoidable dilemma, because she facilitates it by engaging in the one and only act which actually causes her "unwanted" pregnancy. She's the wrench in her own spokes. Terminating the innocent because of her-- facilitating her her own T-boning accident (giggle), is unjustifiable.
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@TheLegendOfRandy Clearly Cause and Effect confuse you. No, obviously the drunk driver, consenting to drive drunk was the root cause. Your analogy is irrelevant. Obviously, a woman who wishes to avoid an avoidable and unwanted pregnancy isn't compelled to choose to drink and drive / screwing around, risking herself conceiving-- by facilitating her supposedly unwelcome dilemma. Not smart You didn't ever think driving was a risk free endeavor, did you? Well, if you choose to drink and drive it's even more likely you'll crash
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@darcymr353 The biological consequence of engaging in the one and only act which actually causes pregnancy is addressed in the study of reproduction and the fertilization process. How smart are these women who want to avoid a unwanted pregnancy, but choose instead to facilitate their own dilemmas? I can name that tune in No notes.
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@darcymr353 HA...The universe isn't likely to eliminate the consequences of women choosing to risk a biological outcome/pregnancy, because you believe they should be able to indulge in a consequence free existence
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@darcymr353 Look, None of your gaslighting stands scrutiny, and none of your arguments justify terminating the innocent-- Not even close. You should try being relevant. Women are responsible for avoiding their own unwanted pregnancy's. Pregnancy isn't a punishment. Pregnancy is however, a known consequence and the cause isn't a mystery. Sorry to disappoint
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@travisjohnson7065 "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell These people are Intellectually Disenfranchised, and/or Morally Bankrupt-- OFTEN, Both.
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If you have difficulty with the fact that humans are mammals, are male or female, respectively-- and that one cannot become the other, then you likely have bigger problems and will continue to, until you get that sorted out 1st
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@Maksie0 No, they're women who've merely surgically altered their appearance and unnaturally altered their hormones
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To put some perspective on things: MOST people of both sexes, all races have been oppressed throughout history
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@Spicycarrot45 Most people, men included-- throughout history have been oppressed, not empowered. I was just putting some perspective to your comment
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@olivia25144 Settle down. You framed it as a women are oppressed narrative. I widened the view to show that everyone throughout history have been oppressed. Quit patting yourself on the back. The problem with your virtue signaling is the absence of any actual virtue
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Where psychosis and ignorance collide, clarity is seldom found. Women cannot become men and vice versa
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Under statement of the century
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Racist
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They're attempting to redefine and recategorize the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, or tomboys) 'Gender', and that's just incorrect
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@KitchenWitchery There are a ton of studies regarding the wide variability in personality traits and temperament (neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and illustrate why it's inappropriate to try to group them together and recategorize and rename them 'Gender'.
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@Maksie0 Being that ALL women are born female-- with exactly zero exceptions, how do you figure???
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@dxcoco8578 The problem for them is the world exists in objective reality, and their imagination doesn't override the vast majority of people's capacity for discernment.
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@Erik-fn7kj No, they couldn't accept who and what they really are, so resorted to extremes, and are now living a lie
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@rockyskiesss There is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female. Trans women are men who wish they were women, but never can be
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Nah... masculinity is a personality trait that's not gender exclusive. The trans-activist ideology is Anti-Women, and entirely incoherent
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@Maksie0 Nah... conservatives don't tend to have the sort of self delete ratio as those who can't cope with reality, so the su*~ide trans cult will eliminate itself voluntarily in by a huge percentage margin, by comparison.
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They're trying to get a grip on what that means. For some reason, they conflate sex/gender with personality and gender roles as though they're synonymous, even though they aren't. They fail to realize that all women are born female, and all men are born male and that neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, personalities or costumes
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If you think truth makes you an a-hole-- then Fine. When some hairy dude in a dress is screaming, "It's MA'AM"-- when clearly he is NOT, one is reminded that the mentally disenfranchised are unbalanced, and to expect rational thought from them is usually futile.
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@Maksie0 You, apparently own stock in the company
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Wait... They said gender is fluid and disconnected from biology, so how then, is there male privilege? It's incoherent
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@krasmasov6852 Correct... It's connected to, not disconnected from biology. That's why it's XX, XY, Birth Defect/Anomaly. That's it. Remember, the exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule-- They prove the rule, hence being the exceptions
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@CreativeUsernameEh It seems to me like they're attempting to rename and reclassify personality traits and temperament (Which aren't gender exclusive), "Gender".
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Identities which conflict with biology, are those of people w/ various psych issues who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition.
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If your identity is predicated on the notion that everyone must deny objective reality, and participate in your cosplay or LARPing-- then sorry, No. That identity is invalid
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@Maksie0 That's so intellectually vacant it's beyond absurd.
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@Maksie0 Except for the actual accounts of that exact thing actually happening, but don't let that influence your point of view
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@markusbaker1161 A transgender student in Oklahoma was charged with assault after the student allegedly punched two female students in the girls' restroom at a high school. Look it up
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@markusbaker1161 F.U. Look it up. If you weren't a rude twat-- I might continue to oblige you, but enough is enough. That's how it works
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The ENTIRE Middle East disagrees
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@Polonia The UAE, Saudi Arabia, etc. have their views on masculinity reflected in their policies re: LGBTQ, and the 'B' of LG'B'TQ apparently has it's own view re: gender and seem to indicate-- there are clearly 2, but I digress.
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No... Trans is merely a social construct, according to the cult But washrooms are designated based on biology not mere social constructs. Gender-- there are 2, and they are fixed and permanent. No one in history has transitioned from male to female. The advocates of this incoherent madness must Cope Harder, because the world doesn't care about their subjective identities.
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@markusbaker1161 Men should use the men's room and women should use the women's room. No one in history has transitioned from male to female-- so if you have male bits use the men's room. It's really simple
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@markusbaker1161 Perhaps, the armed women they offend will take matters into their own hands. I'd be fine with that.
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Way to miss the point. Why should men be granted access to women's private spaces like locker rooms, restrooms, prisons and sports teams? Consideration of their 'Feelings' over the women who object-- doesn't justify it
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@markusbaker1161 I asked a question. I didn't make a claim. Where's your answer and the evidence supporting it?
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@markusbaker1161 trans-women are in fact men, who've merely altered their appearance. This isn't a complex equation
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@allie4492 Troll
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@timmiller1435 Mentally stunted, nonetheless
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@timmiller1435 I don't disagree with your premise that it was men v women. Allie! is still a troll
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@timmiller1435 No allie! is the troll. Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue are people who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@timmiller1435 Correct. Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men who will claim they're women-- and those feminists don't even see it coming.
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@supercecilia AWESOME!!!
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Perhaps he was referring to the Satanic bible
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@justyana488 Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Respect is earned, and it's reserved for that which is respectable.
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@Maksie0 There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the use of cis/trans useless and intellectually vacant.
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@Maksie0 That if you insist on preferred pronouns and then insist on using the 'cis' term, when the person you're using the term with expresses their preference that you don't-- that it's hypocritical and that isn't nice. Be gone troll
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@Maksie0 They're merely recognizing that he is not a she, or trans anything. That he's still the same sex/gender prior to altering his appearance as he is after-- making them observant of reality
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No, you should not. Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is respectable, or it means NOTHING
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No, it would be competence
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@tylarrobertson4319 No, gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively-- and it is not disconnected from biology, as being male or female is a biological category which is fixed and permanent.
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If you're a female, it's just a matter of time. If you're a male-- it's not going to happen
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@wesleasmith1491 Quit conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive) with gender. That's an error on your part
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@ＯＦＡＲＡ If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? In other words: If a girl, trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (supposedly the reason for transitioning), How can gender be fluid and separate from biology? Answer: It can't
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@markusbaker1161 Cis/Trans come from Latin and are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Now you know
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@markusbaker1161 That's nice. Until you can prove men can become women-- Your trans narrative is totally bogus
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@Maksie0 None of that has anything to do with the fact that men cannot become women. Get a clue
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@markusbaker1161 There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women, illustrating that your narrative is a totally bogus faith-based belief with zero evidence to support your claim that trans women are women. Checkmate / You lost
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@markusbaker1161 No, they don't 'transition'. They merely alter their appearance. Not the same thing. They're still males, only now mutil@ted-- and with a quirky wardrobe.
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@markusbaker1161 They're men who mutilate themselves and alter their appearance. Still men And... They're still women, who mutilate themselves and alter their appearance-- Still women
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@markusbaker1161 Your cult narrative and terminology is rejected. Gender-- there are 2 and they are fixed and permanent. No one in history has transitioned from male to female. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 It's hilarious that you believe that to be true and correct. It's not
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@Erik-fn7kj It's the truth, so it's foreign to you.
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@nathanmccoy9188 Then what do you think transition surgery is?
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The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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It's entirely ridiculous. There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born females-- making the use of cis intellectually bankrupt
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@Maksie0 A woman isn't a social construct or a costume. Cope harder
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Actually, gender is established at conception, and is observed and documented at birth or before
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@elap1529 M N O P
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Care to elaborate? The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. They're merely caricatures of what they 'WISH' they were and can never be One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Thoughts???
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Those are women, pretending to be men. If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? crickets...
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@mxpofficial3443 You didn't answer my question, and sorry but-- the 'Because you said so' standard has been issued zero credibility. You're going to have to do better
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Why?
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We're suppose to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe? Some call it "my truth", I call it lying to oneself.
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@puffyevergreens Best of luck to the feminists wo go along to get along with this incoherent ideology. In your near future, you'll be oppressed by tyrannical men-- claiming that they're women. Get a Clue
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@rambunctiousvegetable Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1.) Your body and brain develop & grow together -> You simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2.) Hating a part of you body so much, that you want to cut it of, is a mental illness.
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@rambunctiousvegetable There is only one kind of woman, and as it turns out, the prerequisite for being a woman is being born female, and those dudes-- weren't. Referring to those dudes as women is the misgendering, as it's grammatically incorrect. That sound is the sound of women and men rejecting the woke, trans activist, cult ideology en masse.
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@rambunctiousvegetable Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Quit confusing and conflating personality with gender. They are not synonymous
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@RED-my9hl That's exactly my point. Restrooms, changing rooms, locker rooms, prisons are all designed and implemented around biology, not 'Feelings'. Those men are in NO Way justified in being granted access to women's private spaces. They're still men
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They're both dudes with issues, pretending that they're women without issues. What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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Well, just Cope Harder... Men cannot become women regardless of their feelings to the contrary, and women cannot become men-- regardless of their feelings to the contrary. If your identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality and then must participate in your LARP and cosplay, then too bad, so sad-- that identity is a figment of your imagination and is in no way valid in objective reality. Take your time to process reality
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@Maksie0 Women who identify as 'women' don't need a qualifier like cis, assigned by others. How they identify is none of your business, so it's redundant. If they choose to identify that way is one thing. That you choose to identify them that way against their wishes is using it as a slur
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@markusbaker1161 Prove it
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@markusbaker1161 The claim made is that trans-women are women. The burden of proof isn't with me
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@markusbaker1161 All doctors agree with that? No... That's wrong. You seem to have a vested interest in suggesting that men, when presenting as women-- should be granted access to women's spaces and that women should be okay with that.
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@markusbaker1161 Research 'Transgender Docs Warn About Gender-Affirmative Care for Youth'
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@markusbaker1161 The claim made is that trans-women are women. The burden of proof isn't with me. Your ever present anti-woman, anti-social, 'Look at me' arguments, and comments stating that you don't care about opinions that aren't rooted in confirmation bias-- suggest you're conflicted. You seem just as -- T r i g g e r e d, as you did on the debate panel, when you lost in a big way, Blossom.
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@markusbaker1161 Blah, blah, blah. You stand in solidarity with the narrative that claims trans-women are women, and you have failed to validate that asinine claim
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@markusbaker1161 Tell it to your therapist
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@markusbaker1161 Couldn't care less. Were you under the impression that any of that should matter?
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@markusbaker1161 You appear to be under the impression that your opinion is somehow of value. It isn't. Feel free to cry salty tears over the mockery of your insisted pronouns, based in subjective fantasy and imagination-- contrary to objective reality.
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@markusbaker1161 blah blah blah... Don't care
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@markusbaker1161 😴
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@markusbaker1161 Yet-- here you are seeking me out continuously.
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Look up the self delete rates compared to the general population. Not indicative of reasonable, sound minds being engaged regarding the efficacy of affirmation-based treatment protocols.
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@daisyloe There are no nonbinary people. They're misgendering themselves. They aren't that which they claim to be. They're LARPing at best
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@krasmasov6852 They're claiming to be that which they can never be-- men, in this case-- is false. There are many who disagree with your assertion re: the best way to deal with being 'trans', including those who are de-transitioning-- For a Reason. Go check it out. You fail to persuade. Your argument is closer to science-fiction, than science. You can neuter a male dog, and put him in an elaborate disguise including a dress, and coloring his fur purple, and he's still a male dog, and his feelings about it change NOTHING whatsoever.
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The HUGE number of women having ab0rti0ns, suggest that the majority of women aren't having that much difficulty conceiving due to 'medical issues', or 'things of that nature'. Just sayin. I agree with your overall sentiment
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@roslyn-rose124 How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition? The point is, they are not that which they claim to be
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@L’Dino If Leftists/Democrats are so concerned about women and girls being raped, why do they release rapists from prison over and over?
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@aaralyn6710 Intersex is a genetic disorder, not a 3rd gender invalidating the binary dichotomy of all mammals. The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule. They prove the rule by being the exceptions. Now, you know
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@evelyntran4390 The solution is entirely up to a woman's discretion-- as only she can consent to risk herself getting pregnant, and so the onus to prevent the avoidable is on her, is it not?
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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They aren't trans ANYTHING. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance-- as they are after they do. They're LARPing at BEST
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@mariec3733 Weak argument. You have no moral ground to stand on
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@mariec3733 Just because you don't understand that the answers did refute everything you said, justifies you being dismissed. It doesn't say much for your comprehension capacity.
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They're Ghouls
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@Maksie0 F00L
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There are only males and females, and that state is fixed and permanent. They aren't trans anything
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The salient point is it isn't and hers isn't either... that's why she isn't justified in terminating it's life in the name of convenience
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@harpoonmcfierce9697 No, those are objective categories, not subjective. It makes perfect sense. You apparently just lack the capacity to comprehend it
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@Me-on1pv Speaking of Facts, that's Not much of a refutation
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You advocate for terminating the lives of people who are blind, deaf, have need of a wheelchair too?
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@mariec3733 Life is not free from suffering, even if you're in perfect health. Like those who wake up in the morning trying to figure out how to be a victim today, can attest
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@mariec3733 Your comprehension capacity deficit is unfortunately, not something I can rectify for you
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There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female--which makes using the term cis/trans totally useless and irrelevant.
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Community? Who's your leader?
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There is no such thing as trans humans. There are males and females. That's it...
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@Totekindheit Yes... The question is how many? and if it weren't for men-- these confused women wouldn't have anything to aim for, regarding their transition targets for the surgeon to strive toward.
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Think deeper thoughts. Poor people have children too
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@mariec3733 I didn't miss anything. I dispelled their notion with my point.
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@sodiumso6015 There's such a thing as wage mobility. Look it up
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A new life begins at conception. You don't realize that? Wow smh
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@matt1325 I told her, "if they discovered a single celled organism on Mars, they'd classify it as life", because she was trying to make the case that a fetus wasn't a life.
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@SubZero-hs9xc No, trans women are men who wish they were women... Still men
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Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively-- and the biological categories of male and female are fixed and permanent.
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There are people, and they are male or female. They both have segments which present w/ birth defects and others with various psych disorders, some w/ both. They aren't trans ANYTHING. They're the same sex/gender prior to surgery altering their appearance and chemistry, as they are after. All they're doing is altering their appearance. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent
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And the mentally ill, suffering with delusions
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@amandavieira2543 The rates of self-deletion after transition, and the other comorbidities they seem to share in common-- suggests the affirmation based treatment protocols as a "necessity" is unjustified
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These studies don't... They highlight the inadequacy of affirmation-based treatment protocols, calling into question the claims of efficacy, as I see it. Study title: “Risk of Su~c~de and Self-H@rm Following Gender-Affirmation Surgery” Conclusions from the studies: "Individuals who underwent gender-affirming surgery had a 12-fold higher su~ci~de attempt risk, than those who did not" “Gender-affirming surgery is significantly associated with elevated su~c~de attempt risks, underlining the necessity for comprehensive post-procedure psychiatric support.”
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@Maksie0 There's only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female. Their political preferences don't change that fact. Cope Harder
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@Nathancant1953 People are real. They are male or female, respectively. ALL women are born female, and ALL men are born male. Wishing you were the opposite sex doesn't make it so. Take your time to process reality. Trans women are Men with issues, pretending that they're women without issues, and trans men are women with issues, presenting as men, but they're not.
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@sarah.phillipa854 Not much of a refutation
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@Maksie0 How cute... You think your opinion is of value to anyone but you.
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What's your point-- that all laws should be abandoned, since bad people will do bad things regardless?
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@mariec3733 You're not exactly a pillar of truth and reason. You attempt to smear those who challenge your assertions and then runaway like a beotch when confronted with facts and truth. You're a liar, and liars lie-- so your credibility = ZERO
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@mariec3733 No doubt that you're confused and triggered by the truth. You confuse fact with fiction, science with pseudo-science, and attempt to justify men being granted access into women's private spaces because of their subjective identity, and active imaginations that they're somehow entitled.
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BTW, cis is a term used in chemistry to describe the position of certain molecules, one to the other and has NOTHING to do with gender
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Really?? Sorry, It seems to me, to be more likely that being pro-abortion is-- anti-life, being that it's the whole point of the procedure. What are your thoughts??
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@mariec7352 What do those who advocate in favor of abortions propose, seems a more relevant target audience to ask that question of, somehow.
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@mariec7352 I'm not the one trying to justify terminating the lives of the innocent. That would be you
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@mariec7352 I don't presume there to be a solution to women risking themselves getting pregnant. Oldest profession and all. Why do you? Save lives? I recommend starting with the ones that people create, by not aborting them
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@mariec3733 Your intellectually vacant narratives aren't persuasive at all. You really should attempt to be relevant.
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@mariec7352 I believe that human life is precious and inherently valuable. Why don't you, evidenced by your desire to terminate the lives of the most innocent and vulnerable, as a matter of convenience? I just don't see anything righteous or virtuous in any of your comments.
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@mariec7352 That's False. If we truly value human life then we would never justify abortion, in circumstances where the mother's life isn't at risk. Period. Its not a debate
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@mariec7352 I believe in body autonomy for all humans, and that includes babies. Why don't you?
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@mariec7352 You said, not all lives are valuable since they're not making life "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of". Therefore, you believe that not all women's lives are valuable, not all women would or should then necessarily be entitled to bodily autonomy considerations, since they're not making the baby's life (You know-- the one they facilitated when they chose to risk pregnancy) "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of"???
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Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near future-- they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim they're women, and you don't even see it coming do you?
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What's your point? They're still men portraying themselves as something they're not ie. women
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Cubic Zirconia look like the real thing, BUT, when you know what you're looking at, you know-- They are Not. The same correlation applies to the trans ideology.
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There are 2 sexes, 2 genders and intersex is a birth defect-- not another gender. They're inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament with gender. Just pointing that out. Now, go contemplate what you've learned
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@TheLegendOfRandy Which one of you was pregnant, and had an abortion?
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@TheLegendOfRandy Look, women that want to avoid an unwanted pregnancy, have the obligation to avoid it. Those women also have the means to do so, and appear to be without excuse. Men aren't to blame, if women fail to avoid the avoidable. Those women failed themselves. How have they not?
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@mariec7352 The question pending is, how is it not?-- and your reply didn't answer, Again. I never said women are obliged to avoid sex. That's your strawman argument.
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@Tylerd838 1 Million up votes
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Their ideology is totally incoherent
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@four-wingedraven7496 Well, if you believe gender is fluid, tell them to identify as a male. Problem solved right? The narrative suggests that gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity. Both can't be true, showing the narrative is incoherent
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@riann7707 You know when you put on a Halloween costume, you don't actually become a Super Hero, or a Monster or whatever-- right?
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@riann7707 Not being delusional, if I put on a dress-- I wouldn't expect anyone to take me seriously, and if I were insisting that I was a woman while wearing it-- I wouldn't identify as a woman, but if I did-- expecting anyone else to not say, "whatever dude" if I were insisting on arbitrary pronoun usage obviously contrary to reality, to be followed up by a swift dismissal, letting them know that they aren't being very lady-like, would be wishful thinking
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Woe to the feminists who embrace this ideology because in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by men who will say they're women
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@Maksie0 Says the pro-activist fascist, when insisting on preferred pronouns. Self awareness = zero
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@Maksie0 All of your responses have been weak and embarrassing
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@markusbaker1161 Mine still stand as valid and are still not refuted. Acting the fool is all you have.
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@markusbaker1161 There is no science which shows that trans-women aren't males. The fact that people want to pretend otherwise doesn't change objective reality
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, they do-- when they say that trans-women are women. That is incorrect. They're men My deal is, recognizing that those men are not that which they present themselves as, and I support women's rights to privacy. What's your deal?
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I believe that is the correct technical term
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Cognitive Dissonance
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Gender: There are 2, Male and female. Gender roles are social constructs-- Not gender, hence trans being a social construct-- making the statement 'trans women are women' absurd and removed from objective reality. They're men
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@markusbaker1161 Quit pretending that it matters to you. You said women are a social construct
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@markusbaker1161 You did ask which ones.
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@markusbaker1161 It mattered enough to you to write about it. nuff said
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@markusbaker1161 That I did know that it mattered to you, despite your claim that I didn't. No biggie. You're double-minded and embrace the absurd and abstract and conflate it with objective reality to argue for argument's sake
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@markusbaker1161 It's a lie and totally incorrect. Men are men regardless of their self-perceived identity.
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@markusbaker1161 Why do you believe what you're referring to is correct?
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@markusbaker1161 I've already answered that for you, and you said you weren't interested in reading the answer-- so, your lack of awareness is your own doing
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@markusbaker1161 No, you don't. You choose to embrace a whacky concept that those men are something other than men.
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@markusbaker1161 You keep saying that, and I get that you believe sex and gender are separate-- But you seem unable and/or unwilling to articulate how that justifies biological males being allowed in biological females private spaces. What is the logic and rational behind your belief that those whom you're referencing are correct?
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@markusbaker1161 Not all physicians and everyone in the medical community agree with the trajectory of the current treatment protocol-- so why do you believe the activist medical community, over the others?
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@markusbaker1161 Our society has fallen under a strong delusion where women, REAL women have been reduced to a feeling. The trans agenda is just sickening and the fact that the West has succumbed to its delusions is just horrifying.
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@markusbaker1161 I know you don't care about women or women's rights. I called it a long time ago
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@markusbaker1161 The feeling is mutual
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@markusbaker1161 Well, you have stated that trans women are women-- simultaneously insisting that gender and sex are disconnected, while saying you don't care about women or their rights
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@markusbaker1161 A woman is an adult, human, female and trans women aren't that-- so how is it that they're women, which is not a social construct rather a biological category? You're just incorrect
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@markusbaker1161 Only to you dear. Trans women are not women-- they're men. You can pretend otherwise if you like-- BUT it isn't making them women or any less men, AT ALL. You being wrong and insisting that gender and sex are different doesn't trigger me-- it illustrates the giant gaping hole in your logic.
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@markusbaker1161 I think it's amusing that you believe it matters that it came from somewhere else and that you put stock in those claims, which you clearly don't understand-- and perpetuate them as though you do. Total lunacy
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@Maksie0 🤕🙄 Why do you suggest chess to be an example of physical prowess?
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@mariec3733 Men cannot become women, and women cannot become men. Cope harder
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@mariec3733 Your capacity for logic, reason, truth and deciphering fact from fiction has not yet been demonstrated.
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@kassassin_brahgawk It appears that there's no escaping the clear and overwhelming evidence that the exceptions to don't invalidate the rule-- They prove the rule, hence being the exceptions. There are clear differences between males and females regarding personality profiles, reflecting the expected masculine (in males) and feminine (in females) traits, in the vast majority of cases-- and the outliers don't invalidate that, nor are they another gender as a result of their personality traits or variability in temperament.
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@kassassin_brahgawk Sigh... Kings, Sultans, Emperors, Rulers, Powers, and Principalities have ruled over the people for millennia, and the common people had nothing to say about it.
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@kassassin_brahgawk Broken chromosome? Really?? LOL If men go extinct, so go women too, as both are required for procreation.
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@kassassin_brahgawk What mammal doesn't require their binary counter part to reproduce?
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@kassassin_brahgawk Intersex is a deviation of both sexes, not its own separate sex. Sex is determined by gamete production, there is only egg (Female) and sperm (Male) in mammals/humans. This is why you turn up to biology class instead of art class lmao. "It's legitimately happening"... Evidence???🦗🦗🦗
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@kassassin_brahgawk You disappeared without providing any evidence for your claims. Hmmm..... Did you learn what you claimed on Sesame Street from Elmo and Big Bird?
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That comment isn't even as deep as a baby spoon
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@mariec3733 It wasn't required
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@mariec3733 Well Ghoul, the need to be asked for her opinion, wasn't required for her to post her opinion.
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@mariec3733 My response to your unsolicited comment wasn't an opinion. It was an observation
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It wouldn't have mattered. The premise is absurd, and the ideology is incoherent nonsense based in fantasy, not reality
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@camc12345 Make no mistake-- the vast majority reject the trans-activist ideological narrative, and aren't interested in participating in your LARP and cosplay as though it's based in objective reality
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I tend to limit respecting something, to that which is respectable and the idiocy that these people are spouting, isn't it
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@elf of mxxns Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid.
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@mirrored464 Evidence??
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@mirrored464 That's not evidence. That's just more narrative
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Ya, like Gladiator sports in the special olympics
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Cry harder... There are males and females... That's it. There is no trans. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after. Same
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Him being discredited, is the opposite of proving his points dear
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@inkeriananas No, they are not. Some hairy dude in a dress screaming, "It's MA'AM"-- while insisting that they're a woman doesn't make it so. Similarly, having a plastic surgeon change your appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek, doesn't actually make you a Klingon. Same is true regarding gender transition surgery. Still, XX or XY
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@DefiledDame Being 'trans' is the REAL construct.
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They think that renaming an apple an orange, somehow alters the nature of the apple and/or the orange-- even though it clearly doesn't. Not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier.
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No it isn't, but the tendency to be overly-emotionally reactive-- IS
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@krasmasov6852 Feel free to re-read the many posts I've replied to you with
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders. The incoherent ideology is inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament-- none of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys, w/ gender
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Your theory is that women had the power, then gave men the power they possess?
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@foreverbooked2964 Says the troll, while failing to punctuate a period at the end of your sentence. Irony?? ROFLMAO
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@blakenewall It's XX, XY, Birth Defect. That's it. Doing cosplay, doesn't get it done, and neither does gene therapy w/ surgery with an elaborate costume. If anything it's more trans-human than transgender. You can neuter a dog and put him in a dress, but he's still a male dog-- regardless of the surgery, or the disguise. Gender and biology aren't separate. The ideology's narrative is incoherent. They're attempting to rename personality traits and temperament-- which are not gender exclusive, 'Gender'-- and that's just incorrect. Try again??
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Why would someone who believes they're a woman wish to have the distinction drawn in the first place? That's Odd, in and of itself
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@tiktak3559 No, that's exactly why they pick men
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@Erik-fn7kj Ask a gold digging, social climber-- who's providing for her fashion, cars, home, etc... and why she doesn't provide those things for herself
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@aidsensemen5950 Protection from the trans-ideology, which will have them oppressed by men who will say they're women
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The final say on whether or not women are willing to risk themselves getting pregnant, when facilitating it-- is why they have no one to blame but themselves for their avoidable self-inflicted dilemmas. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to something more than one driven like a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences?
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@Maksie0 Trans women are Men with issues, pretending that they're women without issues. stfu
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@thankyouforbeingafriend9632 Yes it is, and you've not proven it incorrect. Not much of a refutation. 🤡
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@conor.3875 Define woman
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@conor.3875 There you have it
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@conor.3875 Your declaration that trans women are not men -- just because you said so-- isn't true. Make your case if you think you can.
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@conor.3875 You said, "trans women are not men"
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@conor.3875 I wasn't quoting you for saying "because I said so". Up your game. The foolishness is so juvenile.
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@conor.3875 That's lame, even for you. A woman is an adult, human, female. Trans women are not that-- they're men. Cope Harder
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@conor.3875 How did you reach that conclusion, when I said those being referred to as trans women are men?
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@conor.3875 What's your point, that the term trans women is ridiculous? I would agree with that, since they're not women-- they're biological men, and that condition is fixed and permanent
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@conor.3875 Never happened
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@conor.3875 Trans women and women are not the same thing. Trans is a social construct; women and men aren't. Trans women is the description that men who present as women use to describe themselves-- so they can pretend they are women, and they are not. Does that confuse you?
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@conor.3875 I refuse to participate in your intellectual gymnastics-- leading nowhere. The trans activists demand that everyone abandon everything known about fundamental physical reality for their sake, so they can pretend to be that which they are not. The answer is No. The obsessive unquenchable need for affirmation is unreal. The narcissism is unmatched. They want society to be restructured around their self-perceptions. The answer is, NO
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@conor.3875 Nah... quit projecting. That's your cognitive dissonance causing the short-circuit in your comprehension process. Don't forget... Men cannot become women and vice versa. Try to be relevant in the future
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@conor.3875 Nah that's you getting exposed for being nothing more than the troll you are. I appreciate the opportunity to expose the nonsense that is this narrative you seem to have bought into, for being the nonsense that it is. :person-turqouise-waving::face-green-smiling:
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@snailtrailgail Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not. If the validity of one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is just not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Why would someone who believes they're a woman wish to have the 'trans' distinction drawn? That's Odd Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia.
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No-- Just, No
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Trans women are still men, and trans-men are still women-- They're not 'trans' anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry, as if life were a reality TV show and they're doing some sort of part or cosplay.
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You should refrain from making that absurd comment. The leaders of men and women throughout history have been the one's to start wars, and the people had no say about it whatsoever
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@zdennaka9161 No, I didn't. I was mocking your assertion and putting history into perspective
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@group555_ The self-deletion rates after the procedure, doesn't show well for the effectiveness of affirmation based treatment protocols, and calls into question the ethics of the medical and psych "professionals" who facilitate those procedures.
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@group555_ Evidence??? Data indicate that 82% of transgender individuals have considered deleting themselves and 40% have attempted it, with the highest rate being among transgender youth
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The viewership numbers would be lower than the WNBA
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The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Thoughts??
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@jessvalley6813 And you're incorrect. The total number of pregnancy related deaths was in 2020, there were almost 24 deaths per 100,000 births, or 861 deaths total — numbers that reflect mothers dying during pregnancy. The national rape-related pregnancy rate is 5.0% per rape among victims of reproductive age (aged 12 to 45); among adult women an estimated 32,101 pregnancies result from rape each year. Data for United States in 2020. Number of births: 3,613,647. Like I said, it's not only rare, it's EXTREMELY rare, meaning it's not common AT ALL. You come across like a sociopath, driving an agenda
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@jessvalley6813 I'm not interested in arguing either. I was only interested in correcting your misinformed conclusion with facts
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@jessvalley6813 Incest babies, are clearly nothing more than a small minority of cases-- as I pointed out, and suggesting-- as you have, that it was common is clearly entirely wrong. May 24, 2019 Just 1% of women obtained an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 0.5% do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute. Yet, here you are battling over details. The problem is your conclusions are faulty
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@mariec3733 The facts are not an opinion. My opinions are however, based on facts. What are you referring to?
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@mariec3733 Again, Just 1% of women obtained an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 0.5% do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute. Yet, here you are battling over details. The problem is your conclusions are faulty. I blame your reading comprehension deficit and room temperature IQ
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@eveliinahannele Relevance? The facts show that your conclusions were unfounded and untrue, and my opinion about that is irrelevant, but my observation of having invalidated your assertion, with those facts is now established, and as of yet, remain unrefuted. You seem to be in a state of perpetually looking to be offended and confrontational. Try Tai Chi or up your dosage The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual 'Virtue' in any of your unhinged whinging.
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Forced pregnancy is caused by rape, is it not? I'm under no delusion that there is a potential for a meeting of the minds, when it comes to philosophical issues about morality, such as issues like these which separate those who value life as something bigger than just an opportunity for self-gratification-- from those like you, who just don't.
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@Maksie0 The Post conveyed criticisms alleged about two of those: “One study of Dutch children, in particular, assumed that subjects had ‘desisted’ purely because they stopped showing up to a gender identity clinic.” Although unnamed, the claim appears to be referring to Steensma et al. (2013), which followed up on 127 transgender kids. Of them: 47 said they were still transgender; 56 said they were no longer transgender (46 said so directly, 6 said so via their parents, and 4 more said so despite not participating in other aspects of the study); and 24 did not respond to the invitation to participate in the study or could not be located. Because all the medical services for transition are free in the Netherlands and because there is only one clinic providing those services, the researchers were able to check that none of the 24 had actually transitioned despite having the opportunity to do so. Steensma therefore reported that (80/127 =) 63% of the cases desisted. The alleged criticism is that one should not assume that the 24 who did not respond or could not be found were desisters. Regardless of whether one agrees with that, the irrelevance of claim is clearly seen simply by taking it to its own conclusion: When one excludes these 24, one simply finds a desistance rate of (56/103 =) 54% instead of 63%. That is, although numerically lower, it nonetheless supports the very same conclusion as before. The majority of kids cease to feel transgender when they get older.
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@mariec3733 The Irony :face-green-smiling:
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@mariec3733 I agree, your cognitive dissonance, and willingness to lie, obfuscate and virtue signal virtue-free rants, is clearly evident in your commentary
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@mariec3733 You should just come out as gay. There's no stigma attached to it anymore. I mean, you can pretend that a dude in a dress is a woman if you want-- but you're only fooling yourself
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Because the world doesn't owe the vast vast minority a pass-- They have to adapt to the world
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If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? In other words: If a girl, trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (supposedly the reason for transitioning), How can gender be fluid and separate from biology? Answer: It can't
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@Ey3_s0cEt.4.20. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Gender and Personality-- learn the difference
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@markusbaker1161 I, unfortunately for me-- haven't gotten you to ignore one of my comments yet
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@markusbaker1161 I've been asking you to prove the claim that men can become women, or that trans women are women-- and you can't because the narrative claims are baseless
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@markusbaker1161 Me neither. It was an analogy. Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct. She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals specifically humans. Now you know
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@Ey3_s0cEt.4.20. Listen carefully... That's the sound of men and women rejecting your incoherent ideology and terminology for the bull 💩 that it is. Don't believe me? Ask Budweiser
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people-- who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@markusbaker1161 That's wrong. Your projection is noted and your baseless claim is rejected. Tell me, why should a male, who "needs help with their mental health" be granted access to female's private spaces like dressing rooms, locker rooms, sports teams, restrooms and prisons?
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Why? Do you believe your understanding of the science is correct or not?
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@No-iz5sd No, it's a method of study
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@No-iz5sd It's called the scientific method for a reason
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@No-iz5sd No, conversing is what I'm doing. Science is a systematic endeavor/method of study-- that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe.
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Hardly... Then, they need to contend with showers, locker rooms, dressing rooms, changing rooms, sports, sports teams, loans and grants, and prisons
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@sangawanga7462 To all the feminists who go along to get along w/ this incoherent ideology-- I wish you well in the near dystopian future, where you'll now be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will say they're women too.
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@charcoalgea2863 No, your inch long manhood doesn't make you a woman junior-- as much as you seem to wish it did
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@markusbaker1161 The whole video is a troll. There's no science anywhere proving men can become women.
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Because it's the number 1 killer of blacks?
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@markusbaker1161 No doubt that the truth is foreign to you,making it seem weird. It's just a fact, The truth matters
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@markusbaker1161 I don't need to. They're still men, and suggesting otherwise is what's absurd. They are not women. Your suggestion otherwise doesn't invalidate reality. They don't belong infiltrating women's spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms or sports teams, because they're still men-- even if you insist on calling them something else
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@markusbaker1161 Your failure to recognize and comprehend the facts is a you problem. You fail to justify allowing men, despite the fact that you refer to them by a different term, into women's spaces based on their subjective feelings and identity-- which is not valid nor relevant in reality.
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@markusbaker1161 You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and have not justified allowing men to infiltrate women's private places, because of their subjective identity claims. Why do you hate women?
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Wait... They said gender is fluid and disconnected from biology, so how then, is there male privilege? If men can be women too, then why not??
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It's about fantasy vs reality
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@marcusweaver6766 No, it's about fact vs fiction. As it turns out, the prerequisite for being a woman is being born female. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 I don't recognize you having posted any facts which prove me to be incorrect. Men can't become women, and vice versa. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 I will not be baited into a diversionary topic, so you can avoid the acknowledging the fact that men cannot become women and women cannot become men. That one's subjective identity, when in conflict with their objective biology, doesn't justify affirming all of society playing along with that falsehood, by demanding incorrect preferred pronouns, or access to women's private spaces.
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@markusbaker1161 Gaslight harder
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@markusbaker1161 Justify men being granted access to women's spaces. Go ahead. stfu
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@markusbaker1161 You haven't done that yet. You lose
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No need. It's already simple. There are males and there are females. Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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Try a visit to the podiatrist and a more comfortable pair of shoes. The narrative suggests that gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity. Both can't be true
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The trans ideology is Anti-Women
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@RoseOnFire CLEARLY quantum physics is over the heads of people who get confused about which restroom is appropriate. To all the feminists who go along to get along w/ this incoherent ideology-- I wish you well in the near dystopian future, where you'll now be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will say they're women too.
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@haleybelle7926 No, it is not
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@haleybelle7926 Best wishes
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Throughout all of human history, the rulers of men and women (Kings, Tyrants, Emperors, Oppressors, etc.) are the ones who started all wars and the people they ruled over had no say about it
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They're women, not trans anything. If their chromosome doesn't have a Y, it ain't a guy
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@seendon5394 Why do you care about commenting about the opinions of other men, regarding their views on masculinity-- or anything else? Is that focusing on Your own life???
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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🎯 Bullseye
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@TheLegendOfRandy Yes, Marie C, marie C, You, Conor, and Eveliina Hanele have been trolling this comment section for months like a hive of trolls
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@cloroxistoxic2077 I'm convinced they're all paid agitators
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Do you believe your understanding of the science is solid? There you have it
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@TheLegendOfRandy Science is a method of study. That confuses you?
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@varyolla435 Evidence??
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Be like, it's up to the states?
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@teletubbymeme8171 How? What rights?
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@freedommatters7677 Then, the mother's rights end, when they chose to risk creating a baby, and achieved the avoidable-- making themselves the baby's 'house' until it's birth, do they not?
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@Danikalopez-sl4fm Nope, not even close
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Not according to God's instructions it isn't
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Scrotey McBoogerballs You spelled delusional incorrectly. ;)
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They don't mutilate their body's and then pretend they're something they're not either
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Most of those morons think science-fiction represents real science
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@pinkpinkpink7717 They have problems recognizing truth as well
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@markusbaker1161 Having your head buried in the sand about it, invalidates nothing
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@markusbaker1161 The topic and the point was they were having a field day impregnating females in women's prison. Try to focus
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We need a transphobic 'pride' month.
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Brandon's wrong
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Surgery and affirmation-based treatment protocols do nothing to alleviate the reality that people will recognize those who present as something they're not, because they're observant and live in an objective reality. If your identity requires that everyone in society affirm your sense of self, contrary to objective reality, and their participation in your LARP or cosplay is required to massage your feelings, then you better develop some better coping mechanisms to deal with the fact that the world doesn't owe you anything, and the vast majority of people reject the trans-activist ideological narrative, and that isn't going to change-- So-- considering that they're more accepted now than at any other time in history, yet continue to have a self-delete rate significantly higher than the general population-- the efficacy of a surgical approach doesn't appear to be the efficacious solution which curbs that... and moving forward with the notion that if only, everyone would just play along for their sake-- then I predict you're going to be severely disappointed. The world isn't going to reorganize itself for your benefit, and to suggest it ought to-- is the height of arrogance and self-entitlement. You better learn to cope much harder
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They aren't trans anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're still men
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If trans women believe they're women-- using the prefixes is extraordinarily Odd and thoroughly redundant
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If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? It's incoherent -- or that only the individual themselves can determine their gender identity-- if it's a social construct, how does that work?? Again, It's incoherent If it were true, that gender is a social construct, fluid, and malleable and not biological-- why the need to transition biologically, or play dress up, and change their physical appearance? Again, incoherent They're already, who they are to themselves, and the proclivity to alter their biology, suggests that gender is NOT separate from biology. Why the desire to change if gender is merely a social construct? Again, it's incoherent No, It's XX, XY, Birth defect or evidence that a psych evaluation and treatment be considered, and btw-- the exceptions to the rules do not invalidate the rules. They validate them, hence being the exceptions
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Don't they insist that gender is fluid, and that men can be women too? So, how's that inconsistent?
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@Maksie0 Cope Harder. The comments in the comment section alone indicate that you're incorrect and their content indicate that Yes, they are
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Not enough asylums?
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@adeadpotato They say gender identity and sex are separate, but haven't been able to justify encroaching on spaces designated segregated based on sex, as an entitlement. Not even close They also haven't come close yet, to being able to justify the expectation that just because they present and identify in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must treat them as though they're the opposite sex. It's absurd. Can you make it make sense?
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Half of the panel are women, talking about men as if they have a clue what that means
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Still there
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@mariec3733 If only women were more responsible, then there wouldn't be so many displaced kids in the 1st place
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If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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Cause and affect seem to be confusing for so many who can become pregnant, and that risk is theirs to take, but if they want to avoid being pregnant indulging in risk seems not to be the smartest way to avoid it
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@Maksie0 Triggered and f00lish aren't a good look for you. What better advice to take than your own? Beat it... Kick Rocks
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Alert the media... I'm sure they don't have your phone ringing off the hook
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from adolescence to adulthood and maturity
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It should be delusional men vs women or men w/ a quirky fashion sense vs women
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@agh4149 They fail to realize that the 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female.
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@markusbaker1161 Nope.
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@Maksie0 You wouldn't understand. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender-- and you still get that wrong along with your statement that 'trans women are women that are trans'--- which is entirely wrong
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@Maksie0 Stop projecting. Why do you?
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@mariec3733 They are literally saying that trans women are women, so you're wrong about that too. If sex and gender are disconnected (They're not), then those men aren't justified in any way to be granted access via entitlement into women's private spaces-- is your point??
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@mariec3733 Your cult narrative and terminology is rejected. Gender-- there are 2, and they are fixed and permanent. No one in history has transitioned from male to female. Cope Harder
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Do you believe your understanding of the science is sufficient? Well, there you have it
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What's phobic about recognizing that someone is not that which they claim to be?
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@markusbaker1161 F-Off Groomer
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@markusbaker1161 Go take a nap junior
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@markusbaker1161 Facial Feminization Surgerical procedures are actually real. Do a search on youtube for trans face lift and see for yourself. I'm not surprised you chose to say something so blatantly and provably false. It's NOT possible to have a real discussion here, as the censors delete, and shadow ban comments etc...
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@markusbaker1161 I am having my comments shadow banned-- this is now my 3rd attempt to reply but I'm over the target which exposes and shines some analytical insight and considerations re: the negative results and the numbers and types of negative results that are proving tragic.
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@graennleaf4769 Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They appear to be misgendering themselves. How are they not?
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@markusbaker1161 No, It's Because I'm stating facts and asking questions which expose the logical fallacy of the ideological narrative that transwomen ARE women-- as they are not
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@markusbaker1161 Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 It's still appropriate and unrefuted. Are you ok?
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And prisons, and dressing rooms, and locker rooms, and sports leagues and sports teams??? Not very practical
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@CandyCoated96 In general men are less agreeable than women.
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@mariec3733 Your cult narrative is rejected
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@mariec3733 I don't take you seriously, and reject your cult narrative entirely. Men cannot become women, and vice versa. It's really simple. Gender-- There are 2 (male and female). The social aspects of gender being male and female-- are gender roles, which you're conflating with gender, personality traits and temperament.
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@markusbaker1161 Not me. I don't follow Islam. That's some nonsense you fools made up
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@markusbaker1161 Looks like you were wrong about that too. I'm not surprised, but find it amusing nonetheless. :face-green-smiling:
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@markusbaker1161 I don't know or care what that means, but I probably brought that up to contrast your narrative about respecting laws, because as I pointed out-- Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable... That's why sovereign nations have borders
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@markusbaker1161 Try to focus. I've made my case why I believe I'm correct, and you and your narratives are not. You, on the other hand, have not made yours. EVEN IF I agree that gender and sex are not connected (I don't)-- You STILL haven't explained how it is that those biological men are justified in being granted access into women's private spaces-- since you admit that you believe that sex isn't affected by or connected to gender, it doesn't make sense to say that trans women are women. Do you have any original thoughts on the challenges I brought up about your point of view, definitions and disjointed absence of logic in your narratives? If not-- We'll leave it at agreeing to disagree
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@markusbaker1161 To illustrate that you didn't respect their laws, when you made a snarky remark about the middle east-- when you said something else about the law re: trans
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@markusbaker1161 That was in the comment section of another video, on an unrelated topic involving mother's who delete their own children. Nonetheless-- it only serves as a distraction from your incoherent adherence to an ideology that just doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
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 @markusbaker1161 I don't know what ghuls are.
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@markusbaker1161 Ah... You appear to have given up on being relevant... It's of no consequence.
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@markusbaker1161 I don't recall the specific conversation or context-- so I can't say if I may have addressed specific people, or if I was making a more generalized comment. I don't have a problem with it either way. What's your fascination about?
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@markusbaker1161 In the early 70's, there was a cartoon called the Groovie Goolies. I never associated the word with any religious connotation.
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@markusbaker1161 No, that wasn't the point. I just always associated ghouls, ghosts, goblins, vampires, monsters, etc. with Halloween not the religion of Islam.
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@markusbaker1161 You get what you give, so I have no guilt about it-- but the nerve to act incensed about it as if it shouldn't be expected in return takes some nerve.
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@markusbaker1161 I reject your pushed, cult narrative and terminology. Respect is earned, so if you won't make a persuasive case-- as to why you believe those who you're putting your faith in are correct-- you aren't using your brain and aren't earning it, so expecting it should be shown to you- is in vain and totally unjustified. You've been nothing but disingenuous, and antagonistic-- not dissimilar to Blossom.
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@Maksie0 No matter how many time you repeat that ridiculous bumper sticker slogan-- it'll never be true. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Sex/Gender= 2 (Male, Female) Personality traits and temperament = Many (None are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, tomboys) Gender Roles (Vary from culture to culture, and country to country) ALL based around the various social aspects of being male or female, respectively in those various cultures, societies and countries
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@Maksie0 Just stop it. You're embarrassing yourself again. There are only males and females.
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How many kids have you raised into adulthood, who are happy, healthy, and successful?
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@markusbaker1161 And you??
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@markusbaker1161 You appear to believe your input is somehow relevant. hmmm
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@markusbaker1161 My 1st reply was to the OP regarding their statement. If you were following my lead, you'd have asked the question of the OP, not me. No worries... You've been exposed as an agitator
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@Madisonleekennedy How's that not a total red herring argument? I mean who would do that? But little kids have no need for that sort of information
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@Ca They're not 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance w/ surgery, makeup and costume changes, as they are after
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@Ca Is it? How is that different from someone getting any other type of plastic surgery like a nose job, then pretending that it somehow changes your sex/gender?
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@Ca Getting a nose job doesn't change their sex/gender-- neither does putting on a dress, or makeup, etc.-- they're not trans. They're LARPing at best
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It appears they're attempting to re-name personality traits "Gender", and that's just incorrect too
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The sensor like crazy
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@mariec7352 I don't expect you to admit to the truth, as you've lied about things I've said many many times, and the comments are all there to validate what I'm saying. I mean it isn't as if you haven't proven that you argue and agitate at every opportunity for sport, while disingenuously engaging in what I'd compare to a phone scammer's ethics, with a politician's evasiveness, failing to ever directly answer a question honestly. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Just pointing out the incoherent things you've said-- and you are desperate to avoid it-- The truth is not subject to your admission, nor your denial. You writing that not all lives are valuable, qualifying-- "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of" (in other words) unless they are sufficiently charitable to a level of your satisfaction, is patently absurd and the amount of ego behind that is unreal. Your narcissism is off-the-hook.
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@mariec3733 Matthew 10:13 If the home is worthy, let your peace rest on it; but if it is not, let your peace return to you. 14And if anyone will not welcome you or heed your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town. 15Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.… Bye
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@mariec3733 No, I just enjoy watching your triggered reaction, when you can't answer or risk exposing the irrelevant nonsense that you bring to the discussion, for the intellectually vacant and morally bankrupt tripe that it is.
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@mariec3733 No worries... I acknowledge that you just won't recognize or admit that women are accountable for their own actions, which facilitate their own unwanted pregnancies.
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@mariec3733 How is it anyone else, beside the woman herself's responsibility, to avoid facilitating her own unwanted pregnancy??? Your strawman argument, not withstanding scrutiny-- is summarily dismissed as a desperate attempt to avoid responsibility.
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@turquoiseturquoiseturquois1174 None for me. Still purosangue. No need of them
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Because Reality has the final say
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E X A C T L Y.... Correct
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Justify why should men-- regardless of their subjective identity, be granted access to women's private spaces like dressing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, sports teams and prisons? If one's identity is predicated on the notions that all of society must deny objective reality to accommodate your 'Feelings', THAT identity is not valid
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They're women, who've altered their appearance, not men-- though they are trans-activists
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@krasmasov6852 Define woman... crickets I'll do it for you. A Woman is an adult, female, human. That is what they still are, despite their herculean efforts to disguise themselves
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No, they have psych disorders preventing them from realizing it
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@conor.3875 No-- I have not
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@conor.3875 No, I haven't. Intersex is a biological genetic condition, not a psych issue
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@conor.3875 No, I acknowledge that there are males and females. Segments of each, present with various physical and psych conditions-- some with both. The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule-- they prove the rule, by being the exception. Now you know better
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@conor.3875 They are male or female, not both. Male w/ a genetic disorder or female w/ a genetic disorder, and none with the full function of Both sexes, and none presenting another sex in the binary, and often infertile. You sure are jumping through some intellectual hoops to try to maintain that there are more than 2 genders, and there are not.
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@amylomo9793 No, established, biological fact. They are not men
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@amylomo9793 The narrative is inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament, neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys, with gender. Gender addresses the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. When challenged on the beliefs that skirts, dresses, heels, makeup, hormones, surgery and literally the color pink, nor their fanciful imaginations make them women-- they tend to get unhinged even further, when confronted by the fact that their delusional nonsense is rejected, in favor of reality.
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@amylomo9793 That isn't much of a refutation, but it is a lot of gaslighting far from anything resembling an intellectual rebuttal, or at the very least-- establishing your case. Respect is earned, and is reserved for that which is respectable. Those demanding preferred pronoun use on the part of others, in defiance of objective reality, and affirmations from others that they perceive them as they perceive themselves-- is the height of arrogance and narcissism. You can have a surgeon alter your appearance and prescribe hormones, to make you look like a Klingon from Star Trek, but it doesn't actually make you a Klingon, and if you think it does-- it makes you delusional. It's XX, XY, birth defect, psych disorder... That's it. Take your pick
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@amylomo9793 The difference being that I have articulated why you're incorrect and how your narrative is incoherent and you have not established anything, nor refuted anything whatsoever. I suppose it illustrates how and why some opinions and analysis is of value and more equal than others--
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@amylomo9793 Seems to highlight your lacking integrity, and absent justification for your pov, more than anything else
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The thing is, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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Ya, room temperature in Antarctica
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@Totekindheit Ooh... irony
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They fail to realize that the 1 requirement for being a woman is actually being a female
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Totally agree, however; going by the comments-- I doubt they have the intellectual capacity to comprehend evidenced by their comments here which seem to indicate that their shoe sizes dwarf their collective IQ's
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@krasmasov6852 Your comment's translation= ReeeEEEEEEeee, cry for attention
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@krasmasov6852 Try being relevant, Groomer Troll
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Correct, and they're not. They're inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament with gender
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Cubic Zirconia look like the real thing, BUT, when you know what you're looking at, you know-- They are Not. The same correlation applies to the trans ideology.
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@Maksie0 How do you figure? All women are born female
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@Maksie0 You don't even know what fascism is... Nothing is preventing trans people from using the restrooms that match their biology
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Truth is not subjective. If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? In other words: If a girl, trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (supposedly the reason for transitioning), How can gender be fluid and separate from biology? Answer: It can't
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@OptimisticCynic45 Bottom line is women who wish to avoid an unwanted pregnancy have an obligation to themselves to avoid the avoidable. They're in charge of choosing to risk it or not, so have no one but themselves to blame for facilitating their totally avoidable dilemma. Terminating the innocent in the womb isn't justified, in the name of convenience.
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Why, don't you like science?
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Correct... Women aren't a social construct, however-- trans women are
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@mariec3733 It appears you haven't read many of the comments here declaring that trans women are women. Trans is a social construct, which doesn't invalidate biology-- so why should those men be granted access to women's private spaces?
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@aidsensemen5950 Seems like the trans activists are the self-entitled brats acting like the world is required to affirm and validate their delusional, subjective identity, by using their preferred pronouns, as though they're based in reality. Again, you can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, and that doesn't make you an actual Klingon, and the same is true regarding gender reassignment surgery. They're still the same sex and gender, just now mutilated to appear more like that which they are not and can never be-- Still XX, or XY. If the chromosome doesn't have a 'Y' it isn't a guy
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Half the panel are delusional women, who altered their appearance to like that which they can never be ie.-- Men
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@Maksie0 You should wear a helmet
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They are still women. Their feelings about objective reality, and wishing it were different don't affect reality in the slightest bit. Once a male, always a male. Once a female, always a female.
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She says, while failing to recognize the fact that half the panelists are women disguised as men-- doing their woman-splaining
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There's nothing phobic about recognizing that they are not that which they claim to be... It just makes us observant.
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@omxar2876 A phobia is an irrational fear. Recognizing that they aren't that which they claim, isn't a matter of fear, nor is it irrational. It's got nothing to do with how we feel about their subjective identity. It's just observing that they aren't that, in objective reality. Like I said, it just makes us observant
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@omxar2876 It's no more phobic than recognizing that a child in a Halloween costume isn't actually the entity they're disguised as. Using condoms to avoid STD's isn't irrational at all. It's prudent
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@omxar2876 I see you have difficulty following simple analogies. The connection is found with those who are being observant of objective reality, and discerning the difference between reality and fantasy-- and those who fail to discern the difference. Hope that helps
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@mariec3733 How does abortion, in your mind-- demonstrate valuing innocent life?
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@Maksie0 Those women aren't men-- they'll always be women
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@Martha-w7w9b Being "Trans" IS the construct, based in fantasy. Cope Harder. Same as he ever was. A costume change and altering one's appearance doesn't change their sex/gender
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@StyleS_ How many children have you raised?
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@Ey3_s0cEt.4.20. You still don't know? A woman is an adult, human, female. Now you know
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@Maksie0 Yes, it is
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You pointing out race, indicates that you've got racist tendencies. Abortion is the #1 killer of the black population in the USA. Why do you endorse that??
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@joshualangdon3070 Not all men and women are deserving of respect, and people aren't equal-- People are uniquely 1 of 1. People aren't even equal to themselves on given days
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@joshualangdon3070 The question of what is respectable, then comes into play. Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable... That's why sovereign nations have borders
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@joshualangdon3070 And-- denying reality, in favor of affirming someone's subjective imagination which contradicts objective reality, doesn't rise to the level of that which is respectable
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@petemiller2920 Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally because of a psych disorder or for attention, or Both. That you can't wrap your head around that is a YOU problem. Just Cope Harder
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@glassietassy1625 Why are you misgendering him? That dude isn't any kind of woman, making it grammatically incorrect to refer to him as she or her. Women (ALL of them) are born female and that dude wasn't, and isn't any kind of woman whatsoever
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Woe to the feminists who buy into this ideology too, as in their near dystopian futures-- they'll be oppressed by men, who will claim to be women
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Females are under attack too. In the not too far off dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will say they are 'Women'.
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That's because they're women
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Gender and biology aren't disconnected. They are attempting to redefine personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive, which is why there are butch females and effeminate males) "Gender" and it's not appropriate, nor applicable the way the trans-activist narrative is attempting to utilize the term.
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@Maksie0 What the supposed swindle??? You're FOS
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True gender dysphoria is very rare, and I believe the trans-activist ideology and narratives are inappropriately grouping trans people, who are for the most part, merely unapologetically embracing and indulging their perversions-- under the gender dysphoria umbrella. It's disingenuous at BEST Liberals want to give your children hormone blockers, inject them with poison, shame them for their skin color, teach them to be gay, allow them to be groomed by pedophiles and give control of them over to the state. The sad part is that I don't have to exaggerate these claims. They openly support this evil. You are watching the death spiral of the Democratic party. To the feminists who go along with their incoherent ideology-- Best of luck in your near dystopian future, where you'll then be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will say they're women too. And they don't even see it coming. Don't say, no one ever told you
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@freedommatters7677 False equivalence of an argument.
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@freedommatters7677 I said it was like having an infant, who's father wasn't in the picture being dropped on your door step, and they're directly related to you.
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@freedommatters7677 No, but I understand that you're choosing to look at every response, and reply with an obtuse misunderstanding, as a matter of policy-- as any troll would. My initial response was regarding a rape scenario.
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@Maksie0 Same w/ preferred pronouns-- yes
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Not as much as those who perpetuate the stereotype by doing such things. Black Privilege: The ability to break every law in the land, and still remain the victim
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@earbunnyisgloomy9613 It's the business that's trying to earn the customer's patronage. Is it not? The way I see it, is-- it's a culture issue, not a color issue.
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@earbunnyisgloomy9613 No worries. Your observation isn't without merit, I was just attempting to show that the stats were not because of race, rather because of culture
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@Liberty5024 You have the morals and ethics of a phone scammer
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@meggie Shut it, Groomer
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@markusbaker1161 The OP brought it up-- Not me. I was just being relevant.
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@markusbaker1161 Funny how relevant considerations always apply huh
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@markusbaker1161 Not as much time as so many others spend trying to deny reality, in the name of being something they are not
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@markusbaker1161 Finding themselves? I suppose I agree that they're lost. Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 They don't find themselves becoming the opposite sex. The best they can do is attempt to look the part
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@markusbaker1161 It is-- and my opinion is more important than yours, and apparently those trying to make an argument believe they need to persuade me and those like me-- So, make of that what you will. They seem to think it's of value to advocate their ideas and have them be supported by society at large, and I don't see that they have done so sufficiently enough to persuade the majority of people. If you do-- That's wonderful. Have fun, and quit worrying about stalking me and my every comment, as if it does matter.
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@markusbaker1161 I see no need. I have already proven it to myself, and you've failed to persuade otherwise
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@markusbaker1161 Because psych disorders are real
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@markusbaker1161 I discern that you're inappropriately using the term transgender people, as one synonymous to mean men presenting as that which they are not-- women, and/or women presenting as that which they can never be-- men. They're not trans anything. I see no reason why those men should be allowed to infiltrate women's spaces, sports or anything else because of their "Feelings", since they're MEN
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@markusbaker1161 I know what they defined it as. I'm saying it's irrelevant. I'm not upset. I'm just pointing out that the definition they present doesn't alter the fact that they're men, who present as women, and women who present as men, and that just doesn't make it so-- even if they REEEAALLY, REEeeeeEEAAAAAAAlly believe it. The reason for people presenting as something they're not is of no concern to reality or truth
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@markusbaker1161 Ya, I really couldn't care less if you or anyone else chooses to misuse the word phobia. It's of no consequence. I'm not entering your popularity contest. There's nothing irrational nor fear-based involved in recognizing that men are not women, regardless of how sincere you are when you're telling yourself that.
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@markusbaker1161 You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and have not justified allowing men to infiltrate women's private places, like restrooms, locker rooms, sports teams and prisons because of their subjective identity claims. Why do you hate, and disrespect women so much?
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@markusbaker1161 All you'e done is deflect and attempt to redirect. You've refuted nothing Nonetheless, my observations regarding your comments are that you have not illustrated any respect for women and their private spaces by advocating in favor of men being allowed to infiltrate their spaces. Why, according to you-- should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim that they're women.
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@markusbaker1161 How pathetically sad... though illustratively narcissistic of you to frame it, as though it's all about you. Your attention-seeking behavior is noted, and it's not a great look for you. You need better material. Why should men (regardless of you renaming them Trans-women, transgender, or whatever-- they're still men) be granted access to women's private spaces, based on their subjective identity claims, which aren't validated by objective reality?? Nothing still? Shocker... 🙄
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@markusbaker1161 Do You? Dismiss yourself
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@markusbaker1161 If that's true, you certainly have posted any of it when asked. Until then, the 'because you said so' standard is rejected.
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YOU gotta remember, trans women are MEN with issues pretending that they're women without issues. Not exactly the sort I'd recommend taking advice from, for what are to me, obvious reasons
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Their incoherence in their narrative suggests that gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity. Both can't be true, showing the narrative is incoherent.
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That's is some stunted analysis and conclusions you are peddling. Quit conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. It only highlights your ignorance and denial of reality. Gender is Binary, (Male and Female). It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders -- who don't live in reality about there being two genders, and/or who lack the capacity to comprehend the facts.
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@Alexavian Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh There's a prerequisite to being a woman and that's being born female, and those dudes were not
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@conor.3875 Nature's biology doesn't give a crap about society's considerations
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@TheLegendOfRandy You believe your life is valuable, and yet you dismiss the value of the innocent in the womb, and equate their life to a status of disposable. Interesting... 2. That's correct You realize men and women are different, yes? Well, women get pregnant and men don't, so if a woman wishes to avoid an unwanted pregnancy, she has considerations that men just do not, and an obligation to maintain her pregnancy-free status, as that's 'Her' preferred status, and a man's considerations regarding her preferred status is irrelevant.
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@mariec7352 Correct, it does not-- because that's not what I believe. If I believed that, I wouldn't have responsibly raised my son as a single father, with sole custody. No worries... I acknowledge that you just won't recognize or admit that women are accountable for their actions, which facilitate their own unwanted pregnancies.
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@mariec7352 Your failure to discern the difference between avoiding unwanted pregnancies, and avoiding se x is why your narrative is bogus and fails.
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@mariec7352 Assault victims are clearly not those being discussed, when discussing choice, and your failure to recognize that is why you're confused, and why your narrative is bogus. You lose
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@mariec7352 No, you aren't. I already answered you.
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@mariec7352 You can type that as feverishly as you choose, and it still isn't going to be true
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@mariec7352 Are you going to cry? ❄❄❄🧁🧁🧁
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@mariec7352 You have an invalid argument. Shocker. 🤡You need some better material.
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@catboyash No they aren't. A woman is an adult, human, female. Restrooms are designed and implemented based on biology, not subjective identity. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 You're the one who's triggered, so much so that you're stalking my every comment, and getting stumped with every question dismantling the rhetoric you're pushing, and exposing the holes in your arguments. :face-blue-smiling::face-turquoise-covering-eyes::body-green-covering-eyes::face-turquoise-drinking-coffee:
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@markusbaker1161 They already have been. The biological science validates what I've written, and the psych science has clearly defined dissociative disorders. Your failure to recognize or comprehend them is all you babe
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@markusbaker1161 Nope... You're again, inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with sex/gender, as if they were synonymous and they aren't
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@markusbaker1161 The fact is that males who don't identify with their biology are still males-- and that seems to trigger you and cause you angst, and confusion. Anyway... You've not cited anything whatsoever, which has invalidated anything I've written by proving me incorrect. According to the psych science, what you're talking about is categorized under the umbrella of dissociative disorders.
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@markusbaker1161 We also know the facts about Dissociative Disorders. One of those facts is that they do not change biology from male to female or vice versa
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@markusbaker1161 I'm correct, and you've not proven otherwise.
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@markusbaker1161 You're not qualified to say, and you've proven nothing which invalidates anything I've written
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@markusbaker1161 You keep saying that without offering up any evidence to support your claim. Men cannot become women, and trans women are men. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 Yes it is, and yes it does. it's just that facts and the truth that trans women are men bothers you-- because you hate women and wish to encroach on their rights
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@markusbaker1161 I'm definitely correct. Your confusion doesn't change that. You've shown that you're either intellectually impaired and/or confused about the facts and the truth that trans women are men. You not knowing what to make of that, doesn't make your analysis or conclusions correct, and it definitely doesn't prove me incorrect.
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@markusbaker1161 Looks like you're still triggered and seeking negative attention again. You should get a help. Your cognitive dissonance seems to making it difficult for you to conduct yourself like an intelligent adult, with integrity. smh :face-turquoise-covering-eyes:🙄
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Using 'Cis' is intellectually vacant, as there is only 1 kind of woman-- and they're ALL born female, making the use of 'cis' irrelevant and totally useless
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@soniamarquez 🦗🦗🦗
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@firstofawll A woman is an adult, human, female, so how do you figure he's a woman? Make it make sense
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@firstofawll What's your point? That they're not the same but you use the terms as if they are?
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@firstofawll When you said trans women are women. Women aren't social constructs, and if sex and gender are separate and disconnected you're conflating sex and gender, so make it make sense.
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@markusbaker1161 Google it
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@markusbaker1161 Then, enjoy not knowing
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@markusbaker1161 Don't Care one way or the other. I'm not willing to care more about your not knowing then you do
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@markusbaker1161 Your concerns are not important or of interest. One minute you don't care, the next you're virtue signaling as though you do. I couldn't care less about your state of ignorance, as you've proven to my satisfaction to have no integrity
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@markusbaker1161 You've already proven yourself to be an agent provocateur with no integrity. You couldn't be any less relevant. Make of that what you will. I don't care... you're just not that important.
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@markusbaker1161 So?
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@markusbaker1161 There are people. They are male or female. This is not controversial.
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@markusbaker1161 If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access to female's private spaces?
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That comment wasn't even as deep as a baby spoon. There's no virtue in your virtue signal
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@nanastarr Based on the level of idiocy in your comment's I'm going to assume you have a learning impairment
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In the Special Olympics
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Ya think? LOL That dude is WAAYYY out there
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Blossom comes across like a non-credible, paid activist agent provocateur, who's shoe size dwarfs his IQ
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It's called parenting
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@mariec3733 Who's in charge of preventing or facilitating that condition?
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@mariec3733 Not Without her consent to risk it, in the 1st place. You continue to fail to recognize and/or acknowledge the first step. No wonder you keep arriving at the wrong conclusions
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@TheLegendOfRandy Yes, a wakeup call reminder that Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable... That's why sovereign nations have borders.
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@TheLegendOfRandy It seems my responses have been and are being hidden from you, or by you--
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@TheLegendOfRandy I don't know you. For all I know, you could be a youtube employee. Nonetheless, it's clear that the powers that be, who are censoring and deleting comments, are clearly not interested in any opposition to the pro-abortion, agenda-driven narratives
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@catboyash That's wrong
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@Maksie0 Don't care. Restrooms are based on biology and those dudes have no business in a woman's restroom. Cope Harder
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@Maksie0 They're dudes, they aren't any kind of woman,and they never can be.
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@Maksie0 Your approval isn't required. That sound, is the sound of rejection. You better learn to cope with it
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Too bad nobody asked if the pro-trans agenda intended to prove that the gender pay gap is a myth, by maintaining the ideology's insistence that gender is separate from biology and fluid.
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The majority of men are not emotionally, nor psychologically impaired, nor socially stunted
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@Ey3_s0cEt.4.20. There are no trans people. There are males and females... That's it.
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He fails to realize that the 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being female-- and he's not that-- regardless of his attire
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Because men present a bigger threat to women than women do to men, seems like the obvious answer to me
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How many kids have you raised who've become well-adjusted, productive members of society?
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@ChiChisWorld LOL... Were you 4 when you got her mother pregnant? Get Real Kid
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@ChiChisWorld Nah... I'm nearly 60, with a son, in his 30's. Going by your channel content, you should be embarrassed for that, at your age. Social contagion is a real phenomenon, that you're free to pretend doesn't exist. Parents are responsible for providing the foundation of their children's sense of morality, and instilling self-restraint to adequately prepare them to socialize and co-exist positively with others. 'Anything goes' or accept anything-- doesn't get it done.
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@ChiChisWorld Being the vast minority who buy into this incoherent ideological narrative already, and then with self-delete rates being so much higher than the general population... I'm not too worried about it
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@ChiChisWorld I'm not mad. I accept that there are people, and some of them have psych disorders, some physical disorders, some have both.
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@ChiChisWorld Nothing you can do to stop people from recognizing and choosing reality. Study's show that approximately 80% desist and end up gay, and about 50% of them will self terminate. They're a de@th cult
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@ChiChisWorld Disney, Target, and Budweiser can tell you different
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@ChiChisWorld And they've all been losing a crap ton of market share, hemorrhaging $$ while they're at it. Fine by me 🤡 You seem triggered about the fact that men can't become women and that women can't become men, and that most people don't have difficulty deciphering the differences between men and women. The vast majority of people on earth reject the trans-activist ideological narratives, so you better learn to cope harder-- if you think people are motivated to deny reality, and participate in the trans delusion, LARP and cosplay, as though it's based in reality-- because they don't buy it. You fail to persuade. Own it, and move on
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@Maksie0 Evidence of being a grifter??? Get back under your bridge-- troll
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@fourdubs4 It's indicative that they're mentally and spiritually impaired for whatever reasons
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@fourdubs4 Ya well, those types need more attention from their shrinks-- that's for sure
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“The truth has no defense against a fool determined to believe a lie.”
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@mariec3733 Nah, she would just point out that there isn't any science anywhere proving men can become women.
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@Grinchillah I never said any such thing. Humans have stages of development and when a woman becomes pregnant, she can only be pregnant with another human. Get Real
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You appear to have an impulse control problem and an attention-seeking behavior that's gone unchecked. Get help
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Half the panel are women... What are you talking about?
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@krasmasov6852 Troll, Be Gone
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@krasmasov6852 No, but you are
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@krasmasov6852 Bottom line, I have no dog in this fight. You and the minority trans-activists who have a vested interest, in getting me and the rest of the majority of people in the world to use your subjective pronouns, and affirm and validate your incoherent ideology, Do-- and so far, you're failing to persuade, making the answer, No. You've refuted nothing whatsoever and have established even less. You need to do better
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@mr.mclibtard5015 That fool will fail to acknowledge that a puppy is a dog, just as they think they're being clever by trying to point out that females develop into women in adulthood-- and that the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female.
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@Maksie0 Well, that isn't very lady-like. You go ahead first. I'm a gentleman. :person-turqouise-waving:
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Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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Women are oppressed in government? What country are you talking about? They're in the USA are they not? Women are at the upper echelons of governmental power the VP is a female, the speaker of the house c'mon now...
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Woe to the feminists who buy into this narrative as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men who claim they're women... and they don't even see it coming
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@nathanieldavis511 The opposition lacks the capacity to connect those dots
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@nathanieldavis511 I never said you were. I merely pointed out that my observation that the pro-death movement lack the capacity to connect the dots regarding the various stages of human development. People tend to use abortions as a means to continue their irresponsible and risky behavior.
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@conor.3875 Innocence is a major factor, that you fail to acknowledge-- when not considering and factoring in what it is that your ideological narrative asserts regarding what makes a given life less valuable
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There is no such thing as a life free from adversity. The vast majority of kids in the foster system aren't newborns. They're there because their parents are having custody issues with the courts. Nothing prevents women from offering their children up for adoption, if they're unfit parents, and NOTHING prevents them from avoiding their own self-inflicted dilemmas.
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@Maksie0 How cute, you seem to think you have some credibility... That's wrong. You have none
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@Maksie0 When you dress up like a woman, you look like a Ferengi
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Why not?
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What do you respect about each side?
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@Maksie0 Why not? How do you know? Evidence??
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@ricolascivamente That dude maksie0 is who I was replying to, and they're an activist troll.
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@ricolascivamente Lucky you... You're not missing anything relevant
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@ricolascivamente I'm not making fun of him. I'm challenging his absurd, cult, ideology.
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@mariec3733 That wasn't much of a refutation. Snuffing out a life... is obviously wrong, and the fact that you find it perfectly acceptable makes you a sociopath
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@waldemarmarwalde6817 To affirm a delusion, as though it's based in reality
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Yes, while failing to comprehend the fact that because she's in the world, makes that impossible
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@nathanmccoy9188 Don't pretend that you're all the same. Gender Dysphoria is extremely rare. Most trans people, it's argued-- do not actually suffer from gender dysphoria, rather are merely unapologetically embracing their own perversions and are inappropriately grouped under the gender dysphoria umbrella
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@krasmasov6852 I've already provided that for you, but sure-- here it is Again: The the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) indicates that the prevalence of gender dysphoria is 0.005-0.014% for adult born as males, whereas it is 0.002-0.003% for adult born as females (American Psychiatric Association)
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Fascist, tyrant
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@conor.3875 Learn JiuJitsu, and train w/firearms for self defense
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@eveliinahannele Sticks & Stones... Woopie doo. You need to do much better than that
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@darcymr353 Is the innocent child less valuable because one of their parents was bad?
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@darcymr353 Why can't/won't/don't you answer my question?
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@darcymr353 I think there's no justification for terminating the innocent in the womb, unless the mother's life is in imminent peril. Your turn-- Is the innocent child less valuable because one of their parents was bad?🦗🦗🦗
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@darcymr353 Your turn-- Is the innocent child less valuable because one of their parents was bad?🦗🦗🦗
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@darcymr353 No, you haven't-- Evidenced by You not answering it.
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Sorry dude... No, means no? Well, there is No other kind of woman other than those born female.
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Science says, if their chromosomes don't have a Y-- it's not a guy. How is that confusing for you?
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Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally, so how do you figure?
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@markusbaker1161 They're not women. You're hilarious too. You may not recognize the difference between a Ferrari and a kit car-- But I do, and it doesn't mean I hate kit cars. It means I discern the difference. Hope that helps clarify things for you
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@markusbaker1161 Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 I mean, I can't be held responsible for your perceptive capacity or lack thereof. If men aren't suffering from gender dysphoria and they dress like, and present as women, they're just engaging in cosplay. Coincidentally, if they do suffer w/ gender dysphoria, their dissociative delusions don't transform them into women, even after altering their appearance w/ surgery either
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@markusbaker1161 So? Neither become women as a result of their belief nor do they become women due to their elaborate costume change or effort to make changes in appearance.
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@markusbaker1161 You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and have not justified allowing men to infiltrate women's private places like restrooms,locker rooms,sports teams and prisons, because of their subjective identity claims. Why do you hate and have such a disrespect for women?
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@markusbaker1161 Never said you were. I'm not responsible for affirming or validating some dude in a dress or their feelings about their subjective identity, which are contrary to objective reality. You are however, responsible for how you conduct yourself and your failure to make your case is a matter of record
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@markusbaker1161 Cite some of the studies you've read. Did any of them show a decrease? If no, how does that illustrate successful treatment?
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@allt What do you think the L & G in LGBT stands for?
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So, what they're saying is-- There is no gender pay gap, and quotas and affirmative action should be eliminated, being as gender is fluid? Ya, it is ridiculous
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And dressing rooms, locker rooms, sports teams and prisons too? Not really doable in context
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@markusbaker1161 You said you could refute me, and yet-- you've done no such thing anywhere, or at anytime and you've failed to do so yet again. You've got nothing
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@markusbaker1161 If that were true, there would be some evidence to prove it, BUT-- Nothing yet
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@markusbaker1161 Men cannot become women, and there's ZERO evidence to the contrary
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@markusbaker1161 Nope, Still ZERO evidence of them transitioning into anything but cheap knockoff, counterfeit imitations of real women-- Still men; and then there are those who de-transition, who clearly weren't done transitioning-- Obviously The 1 prerequisite to being a woman is being a female, and those men (trans or not) can't ever be that
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@markusbaker1161 I recognize them, but as men who've chosen to make themselves a caricature of the women they wish they could be. I didn't make them do that. You appear triggered, that I'm not fooled by their disguises, and that I recognize that they're still men, but with a quirky fashion sense, some of whom who've had plastic surgery-- and that regardless of you calling them trans-women, I recognize that they're still men. Like I said, the 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female-- and those men aren't that. Hope that clarifies it for you
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Yes
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@Maksie0 And you believe that?? H I L A R I O U S!!! Women are ALL born female. How do you not realize this?
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Ya, men can't be women. This is not complicated
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@markusbaker1161 Terrible term. They're the same sex/gender as they were prior to changing their wardrobe, surgery, and/or using makeup. They're men in a costume, not trans anything
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@markusbaker1161 I never said it was. It's one that you use constantly though-- and the fact that others use that term, doesn't make men in costumes women either So... Make of that what you will There's a difference between not acknowledging someone and acknowledging that someone is not who or what they claim to be
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@markusbaker1161 Knowing that a phobia is an irrational fear, I find your comment extraordinarily ignorant as there's no fear irrational or otherwise in recognizing that men aren't women. The way you use that silly label is meaningless.
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@markusbaker1161 No prejudice -- strong or otherwise-- nor dislike, and I've never discussed my feelings on the matter-- so how do you figure that fits?
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@markusbaker1161 How do you figure I have a prejudice in play? Prejudice is forming an opinion before becoming aware of the relevant facts of a case. The facts are, they're men not women, and shouldn't be infiltrating women's spaces like restrooms, sports teams, locker rooms or in prisons, because they're Men Why such disdain, hate, and a lack of respect for women, that you would advocate that men should be allowed to infiltrate their private spaces?
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@markusbaker1161 Who needs to be a doctor to recognize the difference between men and women? I've been discussing observations not opinions. Try to focus
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@markusbaker1161 Nonetheless, my observations regarding your comments are that you have not illustrated any respect for women and their private spaces by advocating in favor of men being allowed to infiltrate their spaces. Why, according to you-- should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim that they're women.
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@markusbaker1161 That didn't answer the question. Why, according to you-- should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Are you incapable of answering because you can't due to incompetence or due the the fact that it's unjustifiable, or BOTH??
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@markusbaker1161 You need better material. Why should men (regardless of you renaming them Trans-women-- they're still men) be granted access to women's private spaces, based on their subjective identity claims, which aren't validated by objective reality?? Nothing still? Shocker... 🙄 Try to be relevant
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@TokyoDogz One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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Men aren't as big a threat to other men, as they are to women
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@TheLegendOfRandy There's no justification for terminating the lives of the innocent, w/ the only possible exception being, the mother's life being in peril
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@TheLegendOfRandy You're ridiculous. There is no honor, virtue, nor truth in you. Again, there's no justification for terminating the lives of the innocent in the womb, w/ the only possible exception being, the mother's life being in peril. Women know, that when they choose to risk a pregnancy they're facing many other associated risks. This is not a controversy. When they have an abortion they're risking their health too, and they know that as well. What's your point? Your analogy doesn't get to the heart of the matter. The woman risked getting pregnant, and facilitating a baby in her womb by her own actions. Your burning building comment doesn't address that
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Ya, life isn't fair and anything you get that isn't a kick in the nuts is a privilege and a blessing
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@Maksie0 No doubt. You're confused about the differences between males and females
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That dude is unhinged from reality. Not all trans people suffer with dysphoria (OR, are the trans-activists saying that they all do?), but they all do have a way higher risk of self deleting than the rest of the of the general population, so I see it as a more pressing underlying issue to address, than a mere matter of cosmetics. The argument in favor of affirmative care is, if you don't let them transition that they'll self-delete. Well, they seem to do that even if you do let them transition, so as far as I'm concerned it's an invalid argument. Not having coping mechanisms to deal with the adversity one faces in life is a psych issue, that surgery doesn't alleviate-- which begs the questioning of affirmation-based treatment protocols, along with the ethics of those who do
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@Maksie0 How much are you getting paid to be an activist shill, playing a f00l?
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@1musketeer311 The vast majority of abortions are in the name of convenience, not necessity
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Biological is the only kind of female, and they remain female after they transition.
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@TheLegendOfRandy The potential killer and the potential victim
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@lydiawilder5996 The word is literally in the Bible dating back thousands of years. Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders -- who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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Look, people who suffer high anxiety when faced with having to select the appropriate restroom, while whinging about a white, male-dominated patriarchy at the root of a gender pay gap while simultaneously insisting that gender is fluid are incoherent fools insisting that two competing ideologies are correct-- justifying dismissing their idiocy for the idiocy that it is. Men cannot become women, and women cannot become men. You can neuter a dog, and make time wear a dress, but make no mistake-- he's still a male dog
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@rickhunter7443 Throughout history a tiny minority of men controlled the life of all other men and women who were oppressed, under their rule. Your narrative fails to take that into consideration and paint all men with the same brush, and that's incorrect and very narrow thinking on your part
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@thiskid990 Then you will not have any relationships, and will live life of solitude-- otherwise you will interact with others and therein be playing a role
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@daisie3523 Show me someone who values life and advocates for the ability to terminate life, and I'll show you a hypocrite
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They're activists
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The viewership would be less than the WNBA. That said, nothing is stopping them from creating their own leagues
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not upset. Just observant and outspoken. There are no studies anywhere proving that a trans-woman is not a biological male. What more do you need to know?
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@markusbaker1161 Using trans rights as way to violate women's rights to privacy, by allowing those men access-- is misogyny at it's finest
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@markusbaker1161 No need. There's no debate about XX and XY chromosomes existing and what they do, and there aren't any studies anywhere proving that trans--women aren't biological males. so YOU prove they have any business being in women's private spaces. Justify it.
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@markusbaker1161 No it hasn't. The laws you're referring to, may have legalized the encroachment on women's rights, but it hasn't justified it and neither have you.
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@markusbaker1161 You believe laws in the middle east regarding women and gays is justified-- because they're laws. Got it
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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Men are more lethal in their means is all. Women attempt it more often, but are not as successful. A cry for attention? Perhaps
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They look more like, Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then your identity is not valid, is the majority view on the topic-- to me. It looks to me like too many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender, as if they were synonymous, and that there are a lot more people who recognize that they are not
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No, respect is earned and is reserved for that which is actually respectable.
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Women aren't a social construct; trans women however, Are
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When you combine moral bankruptcy with intellectual vacancy, one wouldn't/shouldn't expect the outcome of the decisions of the intellectually disenfranchised to be based on a solid foundation based in truth or to make any rational sense.
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@goldenrule8706 And a barking dog wears no shoes
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Fallen world. Seed of the Serpent vs Seed of the Woman is what we're witnessing unfold
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@mariec3733 You cannot be thought of as responsible, while shirking your responsibilities, like when you terminate your own children in the womb, in the name of convenience
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@babs_babs That's the sound of rejection. Get used to it
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@loganovercash All of these activist f00ls argue for argument's sake. Their capacity for logic and reason is not in play
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@user-cj4hs5sh2x A human female cannot be pregnant with anything other than a human. Get Real
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Personality traits and temperament are not gender exclusive
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@paradise9151 Assertiveness, aggressiveness, passivity, are not gender exclusive either. That's why there are butch females and effeminate males. Lots of purple haired Karens out there that are aggressive, loud, and obnoxious. Think deeper thoughts
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@TheCommun3 Only 1% of all abortion cases are due to rape
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Great point! I would only add that they don't become male. They're still female-- just self-mutilated, and playing dress up. Their narrative is incoherent
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@jasonb111222 Trans is the REAL construct. It is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. The why is irrelevant, as far as objective reality is concerned
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Not only are rape pregnancies rare, they're extremely rare. You're trying to superimpose the marginal case onto all other cases, and that is a logical fallacy
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@krasmasov6852 You sound triggered. Any evidence to support your assertion??
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@krasmasov6852 They're not the ones with 5 o'clock shadow, wearing a dress, looking like a deranged lunatic, completely lacking any self-control or sense of decorum screaming-- in a most un-ladylike fashion, "It's MA'AM", triggered beyond composure. lol
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@krasmasov6852 Try saying that everyone agrees with the trans ideology and see how correct you are
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You can't un-crack and egg, and that dude is scrambled
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If they realized that the nail that stands up, gets pounded down-- so, if they just quit making a spectacle of themselves-- they might have an easier time walking through life without as much angst
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People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and prior. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules, it has nothing to do with gender.
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, it is. In any case, Women are women and men are men-- regardless of how they self-identify, so using cis is redundant and none of anyone's concern but yours and the trans clowns you endorse
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@markusbaker1161 The explanation has been in the DSM, and it was only reclassified 5 seconds ago, by the activist hacks you're relying on. The only one fooled into thinking it's normal is you and yours-- the vast minority that you are
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@markusbaker1161 If you can't tell the difference and are convinced that men dressed up as women are women-- That's on you.
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@markusbaker1161 You framing truth as lies doesn't make your case.
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@markusbaker1161 Nope
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@markusbaker1161 No need
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@markusbaker1161 No need. Women and men aren't social constructs, so it's irrelevant how they feel about their anatomy. Why do you believe that their feelings about their identity is relevant, if gender and sex are separate?
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@markusbaker1161 How is sex and gender being separate (according to you) relevant? You seem to conflate them
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@markusbaker1161 It isn't true that feelings about gender alter their biology into the opposite sex. Those men are still men-- regardless of their socially constructed identity, which is in conflict with their biology.
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@markusbaker1161 You also can't change the fact that men cannot become women and vice versa
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@markusbaker1161 Nope, still men
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@markusbaker1161 potato/potahto still men
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@markusbaker1161 No, that's why they're still men. Changing what you call them doesn't change them. Still men Their self-perceptions about their gender doesn't change them into something other than men
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@markusbaker1161 That's why they're called out for insanity
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@markusbaker1161 🐑 You're the one who can't articulate why you believe the narrative you're peddling is correct, mainly because you're just wrong
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@markusbaker1161 Your obtuse take away is pathetic
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@markusbaker1161 The entire ideological narrative is incoherent madness. They're men, not women, and they aren't trans anything-- all they've done is alter their appearance, and unnaturally altered their chemistry. Still men
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@markusbaker1161 You already lost the debate. I don't expect you to admit it. The number of people who reject what you're peddling is enormous, and is enough. The problem you have is that your nonsense is not based in reality, and requires everyone's participation-- and it seems the crowd has spoken and the answer is No. Cope harder
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@markusbaker1161 The push back against your endorsed narratives, by medical professionals-- is already under way, but thanks for the suggestion
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@markusbaker1161 Says the troll pushing a narrative
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@markusbaker1161 What you 'know' and claim to be facts are rejected as absurd nonsense. Your blind faith in the cult narrative is your prerogative.
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@markusbaker1161 The trouble is not ignorance; it's just that you know so much that just isn't so. Still, No trace of an explanation of why you believe what you assert to be true and accurate, or to prove what I said to be inaccurate.
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@PKMNFan4664 If gender is fluid, and not biological-- Why the need/desire/proclivity to play dress up, or more drastically use surgical alterations, etc.? Aren't they already identifying as what they are? Ya, doesn't make sense The narrative suggests that gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity. Both can't be true, showing the narrative is incoherent
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@PKMNFan4664 The incoherent narrative that suggests gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity.
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@the-birbo It's XX, XY, or birth defect. That's it. Do you think that a "girl" born in a male body, has an immutable male identity? crickets...
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@the-birbo The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the absence of any actual 'Virtue'. You're sure not acting very lady-like
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@the-birbo The focal point of the topic is at the heart of the narrative that gender is a social construct, and not tied to biology. You seem to be proof that it is NOT merely a social construct and is connected to biology, prompting you to have to alter your appearance to appear more like that of a (?) gender construct, or a male or female? I'm going to guess that you chose, and told your surgeon either a male or female? Am I correct?
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@bcbabbles You can identify as 15' tall, that doesn't make it so. It makes you delusional. To go along with your delusion is a lie
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@11235Aodh People with Birth defects
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@meghangallagher4296 Friends tell the truth, and transition surgery or not, they're women surgically altered to appear like men. They are not men.
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@JJ-zb7id Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh There's a prerequisite to being a woman, and that's being born female-- and those dudes were not
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No clue either
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@peaches4623 They sure do try, with the insistence on subjective pronoun use
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That dude is unhinged from reality. There's only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female-- and *He, wasn't and isn't any kind of woman
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One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@Maksie0 No they aren't. Trans women are men with issues, pretending that they're women without issues. Women who are trans are trans men, according to your own cult narrative. You just can't keep it straight huh?
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No, but they do provide the benefits or shortcomings if put into action. The best plan without action, amounts to ZERO
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@1100-k2f You should've paid attention in school, instead of eating your finger paints
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@1100-k2f Not a refutation. You fail to justify terminating baby's in the womb
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If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity?
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@saralynn518 how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (being the justification for transition surgery or treatment?
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@saralynn518 The narrative suggests that gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity. Both can't be true
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@saralynn518 I understand. At 56, college has been a long time ago for me too
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@saralynn518 Seeking truth is a worthy endeavor. Be Well
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No... The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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That comment is not even as deep as a baby spoon, and seems to scream 'Look at me' while you spew irrelevant garbage, as though it's relevant
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@Maksie0 Well, you've established nothing, but your own inability to grasp cause and effect, or to answer a simple question, and you've refuted even less
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@annholiness8759 Women are typically guilty of that cattiness... mostly regarding how other women are dressed
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@annholiness8759 The thing is, the exceptions to the rule don't invalidate the rule-- they prove the rule-- hence being the exceptions. To all the feminists, I wish you all luck in a future where you'll be subject to the oppression of men, who now will claim to be women
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Recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim, merely makes one observant. The subjective self-identities of the whacko's of the world, creates no obligation for anyone to deny objective reality, in favor of their delusional self-perceptions, and when they continue to refer to women as cis, after being made aware that it offends them-- they have no room to insist on respect in return. Seems like blackface for women
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Should do doctors pro and con re: the efficacy and the ethics of affirmation-based treatment protocols, considering the self-delete rates and de-transitioner's regrets
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@Maksie0 Looks like an anti-social personality disorder coupled with an attention seeking disorder gone unchecked
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@markusbaker1161 I didn't diagnose anything. I just articulated what it looks like
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@markusbaker1161 You spelled 'observations' incorrectly
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@markusbaker1161 Touch grass
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@markusbaker1161 Not even as deep as a baby spoon. PASS
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@markusbaker1161 There's no debate about XX and XY chromosomes existing and what they do, and there aren't any studies anywhere proving that trans--women aren't biological males. so YOU prove they have any business being in women's private spaces. Justify it.
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@Maksie0 Why do you ask?
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@conor.3875 There's only 1 kind of woman-- and they're all born female-- making cis totally useless and irrelevant
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@Maksie0 trans women are men who altered their appearance, not women anything
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@markusbaker1161 You can rename a banana a peach-- it's still what it is, a banana. Men are always going to be men. They aren't trans anything You're welcome
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@markusbaker1161 Humans as a whole are male or female. Men who alter their appearance do not become women. Not complicated
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@markusbaker1161 I recognize the definition of gender as addressing the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Correct that's not the same comparison. That doesn't change the fact that they aren't women and can never be-- because they're males
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is the REAL construct my friend
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@markusbaker1161 Yup-- because I said so.
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@markusbaker1161 Neither does everyone else who disagrees with you, but we do and there's WAY more of us than you. You're still worng
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@markusbaker1161 How are they-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? And I asked, Why should those men who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria be granted access to women's private spaces? You got nuthin Blossom
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Dip, Duck, Dive, and Dodge
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Sadly, there are too many women who do willingly facilitate the guy's ability to casually hook up
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Ooh... racists over-tones. 99% of all abortions are not rape /incest related could be what he was referring to, no?
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@markusbaker1161 You're such a drama queen. I've challenged the notions, claims and ideology and haven't had anyone refute my challenges. Plenty of trolls-- like you, arguing for sport, but nothing substantive from any of them. I get that your cognitive dissonance is in play, but that's just amusing to me
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@markusbaker1161 Take your theory to a Muslim country and test it. Here in the USA we have freedom of speech, so Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 Cope Harder. You fail to persuade. Men cannot become women and vice versa. Deal with it
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@markusbaker1161 What law is that?
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@markusbaker1161 What country?
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@markusbaker1161 I can't find anything other than natural human rights, so if they're different than that I can't say since you've again failed to define them or specifically cite the Code
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There is no legislation anywhere that opposes terminating a pregnancy when the mother's life is in imminent peril, which btw-- is a small percentage of cases in the 21st century
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@amandabynes5993 Quit inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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Seed of the serpent vs the seed of the woman at play
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Well, that's mostly correct. There is no legislation in any of the 50 states, which denies medical care for pregnant women, who's lives are in imminent peril.
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@mariec3733 No worries... I acknowledge that you just won't recognize or admit that women are accountable for their actions, which facilitate their own unwanted pregnancies.
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@mariec3733 How is it anyone else's, beside the woman herself's responsibility, to avoid facilitating her own unwanted pregnancy???
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@mariec3733 That's you dodging answering my question. You lose You finally ready to admit that it's women's fault for risking their body's becoming pregnant, not men who take them up on their offer to give it up, as it's women's responsibility to themselves to avoid a pregnancy if it's unwanted??
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@mariec3733 You've still not presented any justification for terminating the innocent--Anywhere. You got nuthin
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@mariec3733 You've failed to justify terminating the innocent. Other than a rape scenario, which is 1% of cases-- Women are the ones who need to exercise control over their body's-- to prevent their own unwanted pregnancies, in the other 99% of cases.
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@mariec3733 You lose. You've failed to justify your own narrative, and you definitely failed to debunk mine, or show how what I've written is supposedly irrelevant-- as you claim, or even slightly incorrect. You're not even as deep as a baby spoon, and you seem to think you're as deep as the ocean. You're dismissed
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They're not trans anything. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after. Society isn't obligated to revamp itself for a minority of people w/ psych issues. They need to adapt to society. They're attempting to invert the relationship
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@Rumbu_P Nah... Nature has a way of thinning the herd
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@mariec7352 It doesn't justify terminating an unwanted pregnancy. It does however, mean that women are responsible for avoiding their own unwanted pregnancy's though. Pregnancy isn't a punishment. Pregnancy is however, a known consequence and the cause isn't a mystery
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Peony Twinkle Other than a rape scenario, which is only 1% of cases-- Women, are the ones who need to exercise control over their own body's to prevent and avoid their own "unwanted" pregnancies, in the other 99% of cases, 100% of the time. Regarding the rape scenario you bring up, how is the life of the unborn somehow less valuable, because one of their parents was bad?
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@conor.3875 No, that's what you're saying. What I said is very clear.
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@mariec7352 No, what I said to you was "It doesn't justify terminating an unwanted pregnancy. It does however, mean that women are responsible for avoiding their own unwanted pregnancy's though. Pregnancy isn't a punishment. Pregnancy is however, a known consequence and the cause isn't a mystery"
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@mariec7352 Your inability to connect the dots is noted, however; You've still presented zero arguments which justify terminating the innocent-- making your statement irrelevant.
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@mariec7352 Well, that's not a justification for terminating the innocent either. You really need to up your game and do better.
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They're men. As it turns out, there is a prerequisite to being a woman, and that's being born female and those dudes were not
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@Maksie0 How do you figure? That dude will never be a female, so using 'she' is grammatically incorrect.
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@conor.3875 Wow you're confused about a whole host of things. Your cult narrative and terminology is rejected. Gender-- there are 2, and they are fixed and permanent. No one in history has transitioned from male to female. Cope Harder
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There are no trans people. There are males and females... That's it.
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That's why socialism is terrible
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It's unadulterated misogyny. Those are men, they will always be men. Their imaginations, subjective personality traits and temperament don't change the fact that those "trans women" aren't trans anything-- They're men
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*He
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@clementmckenzie7041 The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule. They prove the rule, by being the exceptions. Intersex is not another gender category-- it's a Birth Defect
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@kingwillie206 It's not indicative of another gender. It's a birth defect/Anomaly. The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule; They prove the rule, by being the exception
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@kingwillie206 You wrote, "That is true, however, those people exist and it is very real for them. It doesn’t mean we should all succumb to their every desire to our detriment, but we should acknowledge that they are different because their birth defects put them in a non-binary category. You cannot claim that anyone born with characteristics of both sexes is one sex regardless whether it is a genetic defect or not." The point is, they aren't trans anything. They suffer from a genetic abnormality/Birth defect. The exceptions to the rule do not disprove the rule... They prove the rule-- hence being the exceptions.
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@kingwillie206 Because while the diagnosis is real, and the delusions caused by the mental illness of the sufferers are real, they don't manifest in reality-- only in their imaginations. It's the same as if you were to have a surgeon alter your appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek-- it doesn't actually make you a Klingon, and the same is true for those with Gender Dysphoria. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect... That's it
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@kingwillie206 You're frustrated because we don't see you as you see yourself, and we aren't falling for your disguise, or your incoherent explanations of your ideology... Now, go cry about it. You don't accept yourself, so go through elaborate measures to transform your appearance into something you're not, and expect to be accepted for your disguise, as opposed to being accepted for who and what you really are. That's not even as deep as a baby-spoon, and you act like it's as deep as the ocean and filled with the wisdom of the ages It's XX, XY, Birth Defect. Deal with it
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They're inappropriately attempting to rename and recategorize the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence tomboys, effeminate males, or butch females), "Gender"-- and that's just incorrect.
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Yup... He's an activist, agent provocateur
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Trans women are NOT women. A woman is an adult, human, female-- and those men aren't that.
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@markusbaker1161 How are trans women, according to you-- adult, human, females? LOL THAT's VERY Wrong
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is a social construct. Women are not. A woman is an adult, human, female which is a biological category. Make it make sense The law defines a woman as an adult, human, female. Science proves the differences between the sexes, and medicine hasn't made it possible for men to become women; it's only made it possible to alter one's appearance. Your cult is rejected
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@mariec3733 Hence trans women are still men. Stay tf out of women's private spaces. Women aren't a social construct. Pretty simple
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@markusbaker1161 You're rambling incoherently again.
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@markusbaker1161 I've made my case, why I believe I'm correct and you are not. You, on the other hand, have not made yours-- so you're dismissed as less than relevant
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@markusbaker1161 It seems all you can compute is confirmation bias. Wrong guy here. I've made my case and You, on the other hand-- have not made yours. EVEN IF I agree that gender and sex are not connected (I don't)-- You STILL haven't explained how it is that those biological men are justified in being granted access into women's private spaces-- since you admit that you believe that sex isn't affected by or connected to gender, it doesn't make sense to say that trans women are women. Do you have any original thoughts on the challenges I brought up about your point of view, definitions and disjointed absence of logic in your narratives? I already told you-- If not, We'll have to leave it at agreeing to disagree
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@markusbaker1161 Run away from adult interaction. smh...
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@markusbaker1161 All I asked was, Do you have any original thoughts on the challenges I brought up about your point of view, definitions and disjointed absence of logic in your narratives? I already told you-- If not, We'll have to leave it at agreeing to disagree. You disingenuous interactions with me are long established already, so let's not pretend your behavior says otherwise
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@markusbaker1161 i challenged what you assert are facts with questions about the conclusions you believe to be true and correct, and you had no response but disingenuous antagonism, deflection, and playing the part of a fool. I am still open to having an intellectually sound, adult conversation with anyone interested, but you seem to instead prefer juvenile sparring sessions free from integrity. That's your choice, but it isn't conducive to a productive dialogue-- so that's where we're at.
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@markusbaker1161 You've rendered yourself obsolete. You say trans women are women-- which conflicts with the law's definition of a woman. FACT Don't care to discuss this with you any longer. I've said what I intended, and you've ignored what I wrote and failed to engage in honest dialogue.
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@markusbaker1161 You can play your semantics game disingenuously, like you are-- Stop pretending you don't know what I'm asking. Don't care to discuss this with you any longer. I've said what I intended, and you've ignored what I wrote and failed to engage in honest dialogue.
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It's just a different kind of strength
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@victoriajoy7573 The vast majority of people are of merely average intelligence -- hence 'Average', but there are a TON of people way less intelligent than that. Approximately 10-15% of the population are walking around with an IQ of 85 or less. That's over 30 MILLION people walking around that lack the capacity to be trained to be self-sufficient, productive members of society, and NOBODY is talking about that problem. They can vote though. They used to reside in asylums, but now make up a significant portion of the homeless population
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That's not another gender, it's a birth defect
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@sydney6818 Get Real
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@purrsnickety8269 Tell Blossom that there is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the use of 'cis' entirely useless and irrelevant.
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@maddigotnojams1964 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the use of 'cis' entirely irrelevant and useless
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The nuance is found when you realize choosing wisely matters, because the consequences of choosing poorly are real and significantly life altering
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Totally separate topic. There are no guarantees in life, that it'll be adversity free
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@mariec3733 I never said it was. You keep making false claims about what I've written, and you incorrectly quote me and credit me with things I've never written. You fail to cite any thread with the name of the thread poster and/or refer to how long ago I supposedly wrote what you allege. You have no integrity and Your ethics are questionable at best, and your moral compass seems to be missing, or broken Unborn children deserve bodily autonomy just like any other human being, and you seem to disagree. The mother's life is not more important than the life she created, so she shouldn't be able to terminate her offspring. We definitely disagree.
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@mariec3733 You keep making false claims about what I've written, and you incorrectly quote me and credit me with things I've never written. You fail to cite any thread with the name of the thread poster and/or refer to how long ago I supposedly wrote what you allege.
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@mariec3733 You said, not all life is valuable and infer that not all women deserve bodily autonomy-- since they're not making the baby's life "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of"
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@mariec3733 When asked by HK 4lyfe if you believe all life is valuable -- you said, "All human life? Definitely not. Lol. Have you seen the world lately? I think it's only valuable if we make it just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of than we do to simply enforce more births, which we do not." No worries. I don't expect you to admit to the truth, as you've lied about things you've said and about things you've alleged I've said many many times, and the comments are all there to validate what I'm saying. I mean it isn't as if you haven't proven that you argue and agitate at every opportunity for sport, while disingenuously engaging in what I'd compare to a phone scammer's ethics, with a politician's evasiveness, failing to ever directly answer a question honestly. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Just pointing out the incoherent things you've said-- and you are desperate to avoid it-- The truth is not subject to your admission, nor your denial. You writing that not all lives are valuable, qualifying-- "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of" (in other words) unless they are sufficiently charitable to a level of your satisfaction, is patently absurd and the amount of ego behind that is unreal. Your narcissism is off-the-hook.
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@fleurlister1670 I haven't had to exert much effort at all, and yet still remain unrefuted.
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That's by design.
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Nah, it's because they're delusional, so expecting their analysis and conclusions to be coherent-- seems far fetched
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@thecolorblue1635 The Transgender, LMNOPGTBQ ideology's notion
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@thecolorblue1635 You're coming off as triggered, making comments which appear designed to attack rather than engage in a civil discourse. You refuted nothing whatsoever in your virtue signaling rant. The trouble is-- there's no virtue in your attacks. Shocker They're trying to rename personality traits, "Gender", as if they're interchangeable. They're wrong. To ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where as a feminist-- You'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are women while they add to your competition in the workplace, take over women's sports, locker rooms, restrooms and showers, as well as in prisons. They're trying to turn womanhood into a costume that can be worn like a disguise. You'll see, and when they do-- don't say nobody told you
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@thecolorblue1635 Look, people who suffer high anxiety when faced with having to select the appropriate restroom, while whinging about a white, male-dominated patriarchy at the root of a gender pay gap while simultaneously insisting that gender is fluid are incoherent fools insisting that two competing ideologies are correct-- justifying dismissing their idiocy for the idiocy that it is. Men cannot become women, and women cannot become men. You can neuter a dog, and make time wear a dress, but make no mistake-- he's still a male dog
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@thecolorblue1635 Tell yourself whatever you have to... I'm not trying to persuade you to use my pronouns etc... You've failed to demonstrate integrity in your responses to my legitimate questions and observations, as an activist who's not interested in a conversation would rather prefer a compliant subject-- to accept your narrative as valid, no questions asked. So there it is. The answer is No
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Whoa, to the feminists who buy into this ideology, as in their near dystopian future-- they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men who will say they're women-- and they don't even see it coming
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@rickhunter7443 They don't treat other women as equals. The activist feminists are arrogant, elitist douche nozzles-- who espouse an incoherent ideology, and suffer severe anxiety when faced with having to select the appropriate restroom, while whinging about a white, male-dominated patriarchy at the root of a gender pay gap, while simultaneously claiming that gender is fluid. They're FOS
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Have you compete in your own weight class, seems to be the obvious answer
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@gabriellevitale4670 You sure are doing a lot of mental gymnastics to ignore the fact that the child which is in the womb is there because the mother facilitated herself becoming pregnant, when choosing to risk an unwanted pregnancy, by engaging in the one and only act which causes her avoidable dilemma. It is a living, developing human-- unlike a bacteria, so you fail to justify terminating the life of the innocent. The 'Pro'-choice you're in favor of maintaining-- is the ability to terminate the child in the womb, in the name of convenience and it's shameful. The morals and ethics of those who would declare the unborn to be disposable-- in the name of convenience, are questionable-- at Best, and are those of narcissists and sociopaths. Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can choose to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, don't?
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@gabriellevitale4670 I think you just want to be able to act like an animal with no concern for anyone but yourself
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@gabriellevitale4670 You haven't realized your comments are being shadow banned yet, have you? 🤣🤡
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@gabriellevitale4670 They've shadow banned my replies too
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If you have difficulty deciphering objective reality, regardless of your feelings to the contrary, by default-- you're dealing with a psych issue. A woman isn't a social construct, feeling, or a costume. Women (ALL of them) are born female. You appear to be inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament with gender as though they're synonymous-- And they aren't
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They aren't trans anything. Still male or female-- only.
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@Maksie0 That's wrong
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@late8641 Your feelings about objective reality and wishing it were different, don't affect reality in the slightest bit. Once a male, always a male. Once a female, always a female. Quit conflating personality with gender
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@aversiontoevil 80% of black kids are raised in single mother homes without father's, and it is those mother's-- who are piloting the ship so to speak, as to the directions their sons and daughters are on in this modern cluster f!ck of a society.
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You can have a surgeon alter your appearance and prescribe hormones to make you appear like a Klingon from Star Trek, but it doesn't make you an actual Klingon, and those who would believe it does are delusional.
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@durrr1007 Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1.) Your body and brain develop & grow together -> You simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2.) Hating a part of you body so much, that you want to cut it of, is a mental illness. Can we please ignore all the things that those mentally ill people want and demand and go back to a world where facts matter more than feelings?!
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@lvgarcia99 The truth matters
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@Maksie0 Nope... trans men are women who are portraying the caricature of men. You need a better line. Men don't need to 'trans' anything to be men
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Where does being poor and white, in that ridiculous narrative-- fit in?
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They aren't trans ANYTHING. They're LARPing at BEST
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It's what you're advocating and doing to someone else's body that's the relevant focus.
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Cis/trans are attempts by radical ideologues to distract from the fact that there is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- and that ALL men are born male, with zero exceptions, so they can pretend that their LARP and cosplay is based in reality
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@elizabethgutierrez5709 The biological reality of male or female isn't even up for a debate. That's a biological category which is fixed and permanent. The entire ideological narrative is incoherent madness. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. They're conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not. Then they conflate gender and gender roles as though they're synonymous, and they are not. It's absurd incoherent confusion on their part
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@Maksie0 How did you know? omg... You, could be in the circus as a fortune teller or something.
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@Maksie0 Your ignorance appears self-induced
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They hate women. Make no mistake.
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Well Mom, No one with a functioning prefrontal cortex thinks that getting a tattoo or piercing their ears changes their gender. The pronoun use-- because it's false. They're trying to rename personality traits, "Gender", as if they're interchangeable. They're wrong. To ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where as a feminist-- You'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are women while they add to your competition in the workplace, take over women's sports, locker rooms, restrooms and showers, as well as in prisons. They're trying to turn womanhood into a costume that can be worn like a disguise. You'll see, and when they do-- don't say nobody told you
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@squidmom3162 Then what is the point of transitioning??? Aren't they already the gender to which they identify??? You can put a neutered dog in a dress, and he's still going to be a male dog. Gender is not separate from biology. The ideology is incoherent. It says that gender is fluid, while simultaneously insisting that a girl trapped in a boy's body has an immutable male identity. Both can NOT be true. Actually, neither is true. They're attempting to rename personality traits, "Gender", but personality traits are not gender exclusive. Men cannot become women, and women cannot become men. The idea that this is confusing to anyone is amazing.
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They're spiritually dead Sociopaths, Narcissists, Intellectually vacant, and Morally Bankrupt characters
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@MayurDesai-p8u Illustrating clearly that Not All cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable... That's why sovereign nations have borders
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@vanthonvenus If that dude can't bother to respect the fact others don't wish to be referred to by cis and then continues-- he has no expectation of any respect or consideration about his subjective identity and how others refer to him
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They're both men. They aren't trans anything. What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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Misandry-- Your name is Victoria Holden
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Regardless, they're men-- neither are women
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@behemothsbaby Both men. Not a judgement-- rather a mere observation of fact that trans women are men, as are drag queens and cross dressers
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Too bad nobody asked if the pro-trans agenda intended to prove that the gender pay gap is a myth, by maintaining the ideology's insistence that gender is separate from biology and fluid.
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Ya, the entire cult, trans-activist ideological narrative is thoroughly incoherent nonsense from start to finish
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@buzzlightyearlight1247 "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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Who would ever presume these confused men possessed the capacity for clarity of thought or of rational thought and logic? rhetorical
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Listen closely... You hear that sound? That's the sound of women and men rejecting the incoherent ideological narrative, en masse. They aren't trans anything. They're exactly the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do
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@krasmasov6852 Evidence???
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jtjtmitr Nope, not even close. As it turns out-- women (ALL of them) are born female.
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Not much of a refutation. Too bad no one pointed out that if the trans-activist's ideology were correct, it would prove the gender pay gap, the justification for affirmative action, and the patriarchy, that the activists are always whinging about-- to be a total myth
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@ray8776 If gender is fluid and merely a social construct, what are these women you're referring to? It seems that those who buy that crap have a single digit IQ capacity which seriously limits their analytical capacity to reach intelligent conclusions
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@ray8776 Charming... If you have difficulty comprehending what I wrote there, you clearly don't possess the capacity to understand. Shocker
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@conor.3875 Budweiser called, and said to tell you this woke, trans activist ideology is backfiring BIG Time.
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@FatalCroissant it's a term used in chemistry to describe the position of molecules to others and has nothing to do with gender whatsoever. All women are born female and all males are born male, making the term irrelevant and useless.
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@AnarchoAngel What then, do you attribute the G and L in LGBT? Are the G and L confused about who and what they're attracted to?
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Not those chics pretending to be men-- That much is clear
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@markusbaker1161 No, I'm not... Go read the medical studies I already provided you. If reading comprehension is an issue, have your mom read them for you
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@markusbaker1161 It's as though you fail to recognize that the comments are still there. I challenged your assertions and narratives, and you failed to step up to refute my challenges. No big deal. You're not the 1st and won't be the last
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@markusbaker1161 Yawn... Your nonsense is boring now. Grow up! You've been exposed as being the agitator, activist that you are, and your substance free commentary is... well, it's just boring.
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@firetube8288 Study title: “Risk of Su~c~de and Self-H@rm Following Gender-Affirmation Surgery” Conclusions from the studies: "Individuals who underwent gender-affirming surgery had a 12-fold higher su~ci~de attempt risk, than those who did not" “Gender-affirming surgery is significantly associated with elevated su~c~de attempt risks, underlining the necessity for comprehensive post-procedure psychiatric support.”
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@conor.3875 Men identifying as other than men are still men. The world doesn't owe them anything. It's for them to adapt to the world
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@conor.3875 No, it contains males and females. That's it... Your personality doesn't change your gender. Whoever convinced you of that really pulled one over on you
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@Nonyah123 They're inappropriately conflating personality with gender leading to a whole bunch of confusion on their part
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Newsflash: Life isn't fair, and others don't owe you a living. Life is what you make of it
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@LuluScarn The 'because you said so' standard has been issued exactly ZERO credibility, so you're going to have to do a lot better, Karen
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@TIaftaDtIs Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@gilnahnu I would argue that they're only altering their appearance, and are not transitioning into anything else. Same as they ever were, barring extensive plastic surgery, genital mutilation, makeup and a wardrobe change.
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@markusbaker1161 Are you?
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@markusbaker1161 Not dissimilar to your assertions then, the difference being the facts and reasoning validating my opinions, and the lack of any-- with yours
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@markusbaker1161 Me too... Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 Angry? Why do you presume I'm anger? I'm not angry. I'm just observant of the fact that the best they can do is try to look the part. It changes nothing
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@markusbaker1161 I couldn't care less how they look. I'm just observing that they are attempting to look like something they are not, and can never be. Theirs is the obsession. Mine is merely the observation that they're not the sex/gender they present as
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@markusbaker1161 My comments are that they are not that which they present themselves as. When insisting obsessively that society must ignore biological reality, for their subjective identities-- those identities are not valid. You're not a doctor and are talking about healthy now? You don't even adhere to your own supposed standards. Looks like virtue-free, virtue signaling from here
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@markusbaker1161 According to a Swedish study, Long-term follow-up of transsexual persons undergoing sex reassignment surgery: cohort study in Sweden "Conclusions: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, sui***al behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."
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Cubic Zirconia look like the real thing, BUT, when you know what you're looking at, you know-- They are Not. The same correlation applies to the trans ideology.
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@lauracampbell4498 People do claim all sorts of things, don't they? Well, whoa to the feminists who go along with this incoherent ideology, as you'll end up being oppressed by tyrannical men, who claim-- They're women
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@Searching for Ufos Cry on the floor like a triggered woman? ROFLMFAO 🤣😂
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They already have the same rights as everyone else. Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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They're attempting to become independent By attempting to become men? LOL :face-purple-crying:🤣 H I L A R I O U S :trophy-yellow-smiling: And you think they're angry for that reason?
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Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender -- as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@jasperwilliams1055 Why do you dismiss the opposing medical experts and professional's assessment and their reasoning?
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@mariec3733 Don't be lazy. If you're interested, do some research on the topic. The treatments don't seem to help the already inflated cases of trans people who self-delete at nearly 10x's the expected rate compared to the overall population, even after surgery-- isn't an evidence showing the current treatment protocols as successful treatment, as far as I'm concerned.
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not publishing a scientific paper on the subject. The stats are in, and the cited sources are listed. They're established facts. Go do some research, use some critical thinking and analysis and compare. You have internet access. Use it for something productive for a change
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@mariec3733 Do you have any evidence to support that claim? At a time when there's no stigma to being gay anymore? You can look back in history and you don't see that giant swing of people self deleting going up. It's up now. Gaslight harder
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They say gender identity and sex are separate, but haven't been able to justify encroaching on spaces designated segregated based on sex, as an entitlement. Not even close They also haven't come close yet, to being able to justify the expectation that just because they present and identify in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must treat them as though they're the opposite sex. It's absurd. Make it make sense
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@TheLegendOfRandy Study the Nephilim and what they did to the blood lines of the human race
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@conor.3875 Where did He endorse abortion?
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@conor.3875 He said, thou shall not commit adultery. He said, If you look at a woman with lust in your heart, you've already committed adultery. He also said, repent and sin no more.
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@hollyh9877 The separation of church and state is regarding the government establishing a national church. This isn't that
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"When men strive together and hit a pregnant woman, so that her children come out, but there is no harm, the one who hit her shall surely be fined, as the woman's husband shall impose on him, and he shall pay as the judges determine. But if there is harm, then you shall pay life for life, Luke 1:37
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People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and prior. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender.
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@yunyunara You better go re-read your bible a bit more closely. “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’”
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@yunyunara You better go re-read the parable of the fig tree again, as well as Noah's flood, and look at the reason for the flood. I recommend doing a study on the reason for the flood and what it means in prophesy when it refers 'As in the days of Noah'
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They'd have a smaller viewership than the WNBA
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@markusbaker1161 Not surprisingly, you got it wrong-- Again. I don't care if they start their own leagues... I don't think anyone else is obligated to do that for them, was the point I was making. They should do it themselves if that's what they want to do, but I stand by my point that it would draw less viewership than the WNBA
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@markusbaker1161 No they don't. They're subsidized by the NBA
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@PotatoSlices Exactly correct 🎯
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@123peachyscreams2 No, I did. Is that all you've got? Try being relevant next time
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@herionlover693 They're not ANY kind of woman. The prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. A woman isn't a costume, feeling, or a social construct. She's an adult, human, female-- and those dudes are not and never will be
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Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Gender and Personality-- They haven't learned the difference. There's only one kind of woman, and they are all born females, so... using the cis prefix is totally redundant and unnecessary. The entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh There are males and females. That's it! Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct; She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals specifically humans. Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1. The body and brain develop & grow together -> One simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2. Hating a part of their body so much that they opt to cut it off, despite it functioning properly-- is a mental illness.
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@catboyash At a time when being gay is totally celebrated? That doesn't make any sense
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@Jonathan A I recommend being relevant, in the future
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@markusbaker1161 If that were true, you'd easily be able to cite something invalidating what I wrote-- But NOPE... Nothing whatsoever
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@markusbaker1161 Dissociative disorders are clearly defined by the "authorities", as those involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self. That you can't figure out the relevance is on you. 😏😮🧐
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@markusbaker1161 It's a definition, not a diagnosis. Try to focus
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@markusbaker1161 Not being a veterinarian, are you unable to recognize a cat, bird or a dog? You're ridiculous
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@markusbaker1161 My condolences on your inability to comprehend analogies. Being a human, your inability to decipher the differences between men and women is pathetic and sad
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@markusbaker1161 I'm correct, and you've not proven otherwise
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@markusbaker1161 You haven't proven that AT ALL
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 @markusbaker1161 You haven't disproved anything I've written, nor cited anything to prove your statements
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@markusbaker1161 Of course, the truth that trans women are men can't be disputed honestly -- but that doesn't seem to stop you from making triggered noise about it
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@markusbaker1161 You're still stuck on thinking that men can become women. It's just that facts and the truth that trans women are men is foreign to you, so you don't know what to make of it
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Koo koo for cocoa puffs
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The biological reality of male or female isn't even up for a debate. That's a biological category which is fixed and permanent. The entire ideological narrative is incoherent madness. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. They're conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles as though they're synonymous, and they are not. It's absurd incoherent confusion on their part
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@markusbaker1161 Hey trans clown, That expression doesn't make them women or trans anything-- similarly, cross dressers or drag queens expressions don't make them that which they portray. Best of luck with that cognitive dissonance
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@markusbaker1161 Excellent job of avoiding the salient point, as usual
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@markusbaker1161 We disagree on the relevance of your position. The social aspects of gender (Gender roles) are directly connected to the biological reality that there are differences between the sexes (Gender).
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@markusbaker1161 Meaning those men are still men, so stay out of women's private spaces
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@markusbaker1161 Men cannot become women and vice versa. Cry harder
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Guys don't get pregnant. The women that are 'choosing' to sleep with him, are failing to consider getting themselves pregnant with their irresponsibility.
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@mariec3733 Look, I already told you, regarding accountability and responsibility-- if you are a female, and you risk getting your body pregnant, you have no one but yourself to blame-- for getting pregnant
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The word womanhood (n.) late 14c., "condition of being a woman," also "qualities or characteristics considered natural to a woman," from woman + -hood. Meaning "women collectively" is attested from 1520s.
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@n0namesowhatblerp362 Ya, trans is the construct, based in fantasy
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Evidence?
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@mariec3733 Men are victims of violent crime more than women, and they commit more violent crimes. Look it up
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@eveliinahannele Cite your sources
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@eveliinahannele How many of them were forced into that choice?
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The same people who enslaved, and trafficked the ancestors of the Americans still engage in the slave trade and human trafficking today, and they're in the Middle East and Africa enslaving their own people. Get real. In the USA the Republicans abolished the slavery of the Marxist Democrats
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@middlechild1267 That doesn't make sense. Africa had colonialism too, and as you pointed out; In Africa there is no historical record to back that claim up
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@middlechild1267 You missed the point entirely. Because they don't have any record of trans ANYTHING-- 'colonialism' can't be the cause, since they did have colonialism. Make sense?
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@middlechild1267 The minority of people who buy into this incoherent (imo) ideology don't represent "Western Beliefs", as they are a vast minority. Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable... That's why sovereign nations have borders, and the content of Africa has 54 countries, with lots of different values and cultures who are rivals of one another, are there not? I see conflict between Arabs and the rest of the Muslim world too. Don't you?
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@bitchhp2973 Ahem-- NEWSFLASH, women aren't pregnant with aliens. They're pregnant with human offspring, from the moment of conception-- considering they can be pregnant with nothing other than a human.
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@Bluescorpio They're misgendering themselves. They aren't that which they claim to be. They're LARPing at best
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@globesareround Get a clue jess... Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is respectable. There is no phobia in recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim to be. It's just being observant, and discerning objective reality from their fantasy and imagination. I also wouldn't advocate in favor of, encourage or affirm that an anorexic should keep dieting to lose more weight. Would You? I use people's names when communicating directly with them. Don't you? You wouldn't use pronouns to address someone, when speaking directly to them. You'd use them when speaking to someone else about them. They're a mere caricature of what they wish they were, and will NEVER be-- a woman. A woman is an adult, human female-- and he isn't that. It's just factually incorrect to say that a trans-woman is a woman. They are not trans anything. They're LARPing in cosplay at BEST He's the exact same sex/gender prior to altering his appearance, as he is after.
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@TheLegendOfRandy Well, having raised my son-- now he's 32 yo, happy, successful, and a productive member of society (since he was born, and I wasn't married to the bio-mom) how do you figure?
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@mariec3733 This coming for someone who still hasn't figured out the definition of what is a woman yet... You're dismissed
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@mariec3733 In the trans video's comment section, you seemed to be very confused about the fact that those who altered their appearance to be like men, somehow altered their status by suggesting they were in fact men, when they are still in fact-- women
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@mariec3733 I can't be responsible for your incorrect perceptions, dude
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@sodiumso6015 Compared to what?
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@sodiumso6015 You're the one who said, "it wasn't convenient". By default You're comparing
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@sodiumso6015 That's why I asked, compared to what. How smart are these women, who don't wish to risk pregnancy, then choose to engage in the one and only activity which facilitates the risk and is the direct cause of the avoidable scenario?? Just sayin... If guys were the ones who had to risk being pregnant, I guarantee there would be Nearly ZERO unplanned pregnancies. Women have all the power and control to prevent the unwanted pregnancies. They are literally creating their own dilemmas, by making bad decisions-- and are the root cause and gateway of the totally avoidable problem. There will never be a shortage of such people, evidenced by the data which shows the huge numbers of women who've had more than 3 abortions.
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@Maksie0 No, they aren't groomer-- they're a VERY VERY small minority.
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These are emotionally troubled and intellectually stunted men
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@markusbaker1161 That's the best you've got?
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@markusbaker1161 Read the DSM
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@markusbaker1161 You can pretend that dudes who are willing to mutilate their body's and pretend they're the opposite sex are well-adjusted if you like. They're not
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@markusbaker1161 What part of any science proves they're women? You have nothing
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@Maksie0 Act your age. The prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. Your inability to process that indicates you're kinda slow. You only need to be able to read the studies and the DSM definitions that explains them; Until about 5 seconds ago when the hacks you rely on changed the classifications. The only ones fooled are you and yours-- which are the vast vast minority.
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@markusbaker1161 ZERO f~*ks given about what you're waiting for. I'm still waiting for you to prove that men can become women
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@markusbaker1161 I'm saying, there's no science anywhere backing your claims that men can become women. You can pretend that men in women's attire are women if you like, but they aren't fooling everyone. They mostly aren't fooling anyone, and neither are you
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@markusbaker1161 Still don't see any proof that men can become women and vice versa. Until I do-- You have nothing
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@markusbaker1161 Step 1-- Breathe (in through your nose, and out of your mouth) Step 2. Get a Clue
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@mariec3733 Feel free to hold your breath, while waiting. There is no escaping the culpability that women have, regarding their choices to risk their body's getting pregnant, and your efforts to pretend that they have no power to avoid the avoidable-- is in vain.
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@mariec3733 No, That you remain substance-free is clearly evident
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@Athyxer No, you can't. trans men are biological females
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@mariec3733 You can neuter your dog, paint his nails, dress him in a dress and it doesn't make him a female dog. Just sayin
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It is a term referring to living things or biology.
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@Maksie0 You don't know what you need
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Why?
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And other people w/ emotional disorders and impulse control difficulty too, I'm sure-- and of course toddlers having a tantrum
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Not much of a refutation. What is being referred to as "transgender women", are men--by any other name, still men. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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No... Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent and are not a social construct. Gender and biology aren't disconnected. They're intrinsically linked
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@ItsSchwifty Again-- You've refuted nothing. Do Better. You fail to persuade
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No
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Is the resulting child's life somehow less valuable, if one or both of their parents is bad? I don't think so
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@TheLegendOfRandy What does that have to do with the value of the child's life? I took custody of my own son from his bio mom (we weren't married) from the time he was 'New' (he's 32 yo now) and raised him to become a happy, well-adjusted, and productive member of society. I do know that there are a lot of people who are thrilled to adopt and raise their adopted children to be happy, productive people.
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@mariec3733 You don't know that there are women who suffer trauma from having abortions too? Nonetheless, what evidence are you relying on that suggests terminating the life of the innocent, will somehow erase the trauma of a rape??
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@scarbyfar People are male or female (That's it) and that status is fixed and permanent. Trans women are men with issues, pretending that they're women without issues.
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@RoachIndited The problem with the trans activist's narratives is that the world is based in objective reality and the trans imagination doesn't preempt the capacity of the vast majority to decipher reality from the trans imagination. All women are born female, all men are born male and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish or costume-- highlighting the use of cis/trans as being entirely useless and irrelevant.
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You cannot have cameras in a restroom. If you have male genitalia-- use the male restroom. It's not complicated
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@jorceshaman I get the rational you're using, but Still Not legal-- in restrooms... PERIOD
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@jorceshaman Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. If you have male genitalia, you use the men's room PERIOD. The majority doesn't owe the special consideration to these people
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@jorceshaman Well, that's not a refutation. I recommend that in the future, you try being relevant. Respect is earned, and it's reserved for that which is respectable.
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@jorceshaman My comments all still stand and still haven't been refuted by you or anyone else. There's already been Trans abuse & r@pe of females (Girls and adult women) by those who claim they're 'trans' in the bathrooms 🖕feelings 🖕 If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid, and certainly isn't a reason that all of society must cater to the mentally ill in your prescribed solution.
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Illustrating that the variance in personality and temperament which aren't gender exclusive nor representative of another gender, are being inappropriately and incorrectly substituted for gender
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Sex and gender are not independent. If what you're talking about was "Normal", why the need to dress up in a costume-- pretending to be something you're not?
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@sof7251 ROFLMAO... The history of gender? LOL Male and Female, and each have a number of various personality traits, but they're still male or female
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@djjazzek Historically, men and women of all races have been oppressed by over-lords, Kings, Rulers, Tyrants, call them what you will-- throughout the ages
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Privilege isn't the correct term. They seem to be trying to disprove the gender pay gap narrative, being that they insist that gender is fluid and not connected to biology. Not too bright. Since when do the mentally ill, define what is valid or normal, and have their delusional rants invalidate objective reality? Answer: NEVER
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@mariec3733 Get your tubes tied, if maintaining your promiscuity is your main priority, and you don't want children. THAT would be responsible
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Dissociative disorder on FULL Display
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@greenlanternhaljordan4974 Only if you inappropriately conflate the variability of personality traits and temperament-- neither of which is gender exclusive (hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@greenlanternhaljordan4974 Give an example. I've only ever brought up this fact with people who inappropriately conflate personality types and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@greenlanternhaljordan4974 That's neither an example, nor a refutation. Do Better
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@markusbaker1161 What are you, the hall monitor now?? Kick Rocks Fool
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@markusbaker1161 Your authority = ZERO, which is coincidentally the same value as your contribution which is nothing more than prop@g@nd@ and activist talking points with no validity
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@markusbaker1161 Your conclusions are invalid
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@markusbaker1161 Your conclusions are dismissed as frivolous nonsense
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How about, start with accepting yourself as you are? To do less and then expect the rest of the world to accept you, when you can't accept yourself is entirely narcissistic, self-entitlement going out-of-control.
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@abarbienamedken3334 The ideology is incoherent. It makes the claim that gender is fluid, while simultaneously claiming that a girl who thinks she's a boy-- is in fact a boy ie. a girl trapped in a boys body and that she has an immutable male identity from birth-- justifying transition therapy. Both cannot be true
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@Erik-fn7kj I believe you are flagging the comments, because you're an activist troll who can't handle pushback against your incoherent narrative
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@abarbienamedken3334 What trans rights are you talking about?
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@abarbienamedken3334 Harming their communities? Like infiltrating and screwing up the community of women's sports ex. Swimming, MMA, Boxing, Wrestling, Weight Lifting?
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@ray8776 If that were true, there would be more female geniuses than men, and there are not
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Make the case for why someone who's XY should be considered XX (As would necessarily be the case, to substantiate the statement that trans women are women) or trans XX. Ready... Go... Make it make sense
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@markusbaker1161 :face-green-smiling: Of course not... You have NO argument that stands up to scrutiny
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@markusbaker1161 Me neither. Their identity contrary to reality however, is totally invalid
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@markusbaker1161 Additional arguments aren't necessary. The one's I've made are still standing and none are proven incorrect, by you or anyone else-- and you stated that you weren't going to read them anyway-- so you wouldn't know what they are
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@markusbaker1161 You haven't made the case for why someone who's XY should be considered XX (As would necessarily be the case, to substantiate the statement that trans women are women) or trans XX. Why not try being relevant for a change?
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@Maksie0 Yes they are, and you don't seem to comprehend that Men and Women aren't social constructs. The roles of men and women in society are the social constructs, making trans the social construct
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@markusbaker1161 You've got nothing
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@markusbaker1161 I mean your narrative is rejected
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@mariec3733 Intersex disorders aren't a social construct
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@mariec3733 Am I? I don't think so. I see that you're still conflating gender and gender roles as if they're synonymous, and they're not.
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@markusbaker1161 You have no logical, coherent arguments which disprove anything I've written-- and neither does anyone else
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@markusbaker1161 Okay... What relevant point are you trying to make regarding the dudes you're referring to as trans women?
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@markusbaker1161 If them being referred to as trans women is irrelevant, the distinction you're insisting on is now even more ridiculous than before, since they're men.
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, your point is irrelevant. They're men, nothing more. Calling them trans women doesn't alter that fact. Their feelings don't alter that fact. Their self-perceptions couldn't be any less relevant.
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@mariec3733 No confusion here, troll. I've given you the definition of gender. Gender refers to the sex observed/assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. You're conflating gender and gender roles as though they're synonymous and they are not. You're inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive -- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender, as though they're synonymous and they aren't. That's incorrect as well. Gender roles are the social construct you're relying on to make your argument, and they do not invalidate biology. You seem confused about those facts.
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@mariec3733 Science and medicine has established that all mammals are male or female, respectively-- and that status is fixed and permanent. Black’s Law Dictionary defines woman as “an adult female human being.” Changing what they call these men doesn't alter reality WTF is confusing your perception of reality?
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@mariec3733 That's because you have a comprehension deficit at play.
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@mariec3733 The definition I use states that "gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female respectively." SO-- as you point out it does 'also' address the social aspects of being male and female, however; the established social norms, cross-culturally have been long established, and if choosing to go with by your definition-- it doesn't alter the fact that males and females are a biological category which are fixed and permanent, making the statement 'trans women are women' patently absurd and false.
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@mariec3733 You're entitled to your opinion. It seems to me that those saying trans women are women, are misogynists, having no honor for the desires of women, or women's concerns, or privacy, and are the one's detached from reality, using it as an excuse to be granted access to women's private spaces. Make it make sense
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@markusbaker1161 Fine... :face-green-smiling::person-turqouise-waving::text-green-game-over:
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@mariec3733 The women who are being called cis by trans women against their will and having their privacy encroached on against their will believe their considerations matter too, might wonder why they don't get that same consideration from those men who you call trans women, and wonder how that's not the height of misogyny.
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@mariec3733 Because you don't understand that trans women are men, mansplaining what it is to be women to actual women, showing their misogyny
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@mariec3733 Take a hike troll. The logic it takes to say that someone who has a host of other behavioral/mental disorders (as nearly all dealing with transgenderism do) and is willing to mutilate themselves in irreversible fashion to achieve a status wherein they're still dozens of times more likely to commit sui**de ISN'T mental illness, is amazingly twisted. Insert any other condition and any other incessant desire to self-harm and there would be no dispute whatsoever.
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@markusbaker1161 When questioned about it, you refused to explain the lack of logic behind your endorsement of the narrative that trans women are women. When pointed out that science distinguishes the differences between the sexes, you switch to talking about social constructs, insisting that women are a social construct. That is anti-science dear. When corrected, regarding the law, when given the legal definition of a woman YOU ignored it. The problem you have is YOU-- and the narratives you present are wrong, and you haven't attempted to make it make sense-- when challenged on your beliefs or those that you promote.
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@markusbaker1161 Your understanding of it is not sufficient, if you believe that a woman is a social construct. Your conclusions are just wrong. Sorry Charlie
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They call men toxic, but when those men call out their toxic female empowerment, then the females label the men bigots and sexists.
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@CCubes88 It clearly triggered you enough to make a comment. Would you care to answer how in a debate anyone was oppressed? You come across like someone who is perpetually looking for the next thing to be offended with, like a late-teen. Grow up
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@burningbirdgirl Stereotypes exist for a reason and the correlation isn't a shocker with stereotypes which have been around for extended periods of time
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@ethandollarhide7943 Look, they can identify as a Klingon for all I care (I don't at all), and then have a surgeon alter their appearance to look like a Klingon, and it wouldn't make them a Klingon, and those who said it did would be delusional too. Way too many, inappropriately and incorrectly conflate Gender (There are only 2 male/female... That's it) with gender roles (social constructs which refer to the roles of males and females in society), and personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive--hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) as though they're synonymous and they are not, leading to their incoherent conclusions and narratives which simply do not withstand scrutiny. A dude in a wig and a dress is still a dude, even if he really believes his LARP and cosplay is real.
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@Maksie0 Being that all women are born female, trans/cis couldn't possibly be less relevant
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@Maksie0 It's irrelevant. There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female. The problem with the trans activist ideological narratives is that life is based in objective reality, and the vast majority of people don't have difficulty deciphering the differences between reality and the trans imagination. What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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@Maksie0 🙄 I don't think you know what that word means
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1. How are they-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? They aren't trans anything. Same after they alter their appearance, as they are after they do. Males 2. Why should those men be granted access to women's private spaces?
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@pyroshayniac1090 A bedlamite may believe that, but that doesn't make it so. It's objectively false, and to assert that is patently absurd. A woman is an adult, human female. There's a prerequisite to becoming a woman, and that is being born a female-- and they're Not that, so how do you figure?? Calling a banana a peach, doesn't magically transform the banana into a peach-- it's still a banana. So-called 'Trans women' are males who've merely altered their appearance, and call themselves by another name; Still males-- Not women, and as such don't belong in women's private spaces. You haven't proven your claim. Change my mind
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@markusbaker1161 That's not a refutation. It invalidates nothing. I don't feel compelled to convince myself that the truth is false and that a lie is true. The claim made is that trans-women are women. The burden of proof isn't with me You do you
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Sadly, so many have great difficulty accepting reality. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@markusbaker1161 Of course they're individuals. That was never in dispute. They're just not the sex/gender they wish they were or as they present themselves to be. What's behind about that?
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@markusbaker1161 Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad Those who suffer with gender dysphoria suffer with that dissociative state which is delusional by definition, so no they're misgendering themselves in reality. In their imagination they can identify as whatever they do-- but it in no way impacts reality,for the rest of the world
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@markusbaker1161 Even those who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria, are not examples of men becoming women. They are all examples of men not trans anything. Calm down.
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@markusbaker1161 If men aren't suffering from gender dysphoria and they dress like, and present as women, they're just engaging in cosplay. Coincidentally, if they do suffer w/ gender dysphoria, their dissociative delusions don't transform them into women, either
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@markusbaker1161 I think the results of their treatment protocols is what's important, and don't care what an activist claims, when the results are so horrific
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@markusbaker1161 You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and have not justified allowing men to infiltrate women's private places like restrooms,locker rooms,sports teams and prisons, because of their subjective identity claims. Why do you hate and have such a disrespect for women?
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@markusbaker1161 You, failing to refute anything I've written appears to highlight you, who's run out of relevant things to say
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Pronouns are objective, not subjective. You don't get to choose your own.
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@doransoran If you're talking about yourself in the 3rd person, then fine-- but people that do that are odd.The point is you don't get to select the language that others use
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@hellfire7726 No, you don't, And I have no say about your choice to use the language you choose. You seem to miss the point I was making. You have no say about the language that I choose to use either.
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That's not much of a refutation.
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Only clueless people
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@labow12 Respect is reserved for that which is respectable and is earned first, not demanded first
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When should it be a choice? Why should it be a choice for ANY reason, other than the mother's life being in imminent peril?
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When you realize that all human lives are 1 of 1, you can realize people aren't equal to themselves on a given day and aren't equal to each other for the same reason. They should be treated equally under the law-- but deciphering that requires some intellectual analytical capacity for logic and reason.
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@Uzzlangified Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable... That's why sovereign nations have borders. It's not about color... it's about culture, which isn't exclusive to race-- which is why blacks from the East Indies do better financially and then to have higher degrees of education in the STEM fields than whites, and why Asians do better than whites as well. It appears to me that your analysis is woefully stunted, when contrasted against the nuanced details of history and reality
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@Uzzlangified That's wrong
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@mariec7352 You say, while failing to justify terminating the innocent. Your projection and use of tu quoque is still not a winning argument.
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@Uzzlangified Being of Hispanic and Native American (Seminole) decent-- primarily, I find that statement woefully ignorant
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@mikaileford2405 It's useless and irrelevant since ALL women are born female. Those dudes aren't women of ANY kind and they never will be. Cope Harder... Seethe if you must, but it won't alter reality at all
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Ignorance can be remedied with information, but Stooooopid is FOREVER, because it means they lack the capacity to assimilate information which destroys their narrative, and course correct their understanding.
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That dude is a dude not a she of any kind. There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female
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When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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Wait... They said gender is fluid and disconnected from biology, so how then, is there male privilege? It's incoherent
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@mariec3733 Dude, Your difficulty deciphering the differences between males and females renders your opinion null and void
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The entire ideological cult, trans-narrative is incoherent m@dness. All women are born female and that dude wasn't and isn't any kind of woman
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@pianocat5955 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females-- making the use of 'cis' entirely irrelevant and useless
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There is only 1 kind of woman, and she's born female. Get help
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@TorbieGinger Gender-- There are 2, male/female... That's it Pretending you're something or someone you're not, doesn't make you that thing in reality. It means you're engaged in cosplay and LARPing. Fr@udulent identities aren't valid anywhere Personality traits and temperament are not gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys. Get a clue As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those dudes weren't. A woman isn't a costume men can put on and take off, and they aren't a social construct, or a feeling. A woman is an adult, human, female. Now, you know
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@evaquick8676 How then, are those 'Men' justified in being granted access into women's private spaces? Answer: They're not, because as it turn out-- there's a prerequisite to being a woman, and that's being born a female. A woman isn't a costume, a feeling, or a social construct. They're ALL adult, human, females-- and those dudes were not
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@onliner10000 :face-green-smiling::face-blue-smiling: Ya, stunning and brave. LOL:face-turquoise-covering-eyes:
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@O K Thank you. Very generous
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@DoIIyMama Male / Female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Once a male, always a male. If their identity requires me or anyone else to deny objective reality, and my participation in their cosplay and LARPing, using their preferred pronouns etc... Too bad, so sad-- that identity is not valid. Now you know
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@repo6374 Thanks, and sadly-- you are correct, which begs the questioning regarding the efficacy and ethics of affirmation-based treatment protocols.
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Cameraman285 Trans women are men with issues pretending that they're women without issues. There is no such thing as trans women. That's just another term used to describe confused men who LAPR and cosplay, portraying the stereotype of a caricature of a female. There are only males and females, which is why using the 'cis' prefix is entirely ridiculous. Now you know why
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Observing a fact, has nothing to do with how one feels about their observation. Think deeper thoughts
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@diavoios Women (ALL of them) are born female. A woman isn't a feeling, social construct or a costume. Men, (ALL of them) are born male. What one "goes through" or their 'feelings' or their subjective identities (Counter to objective reality) don't alter objective reality in the slightest bit.
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@nayeliortiz9148 Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@__orlando__ Try re-reading, only slower this time so you don't miss it again. ;)
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@__orlando__ I must be over the target, since my comments are being shadow banned
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@__orlando__ Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men Gender addresses the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female. It appears that many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@__orlando__ Really? When logged out I can see 9 comments, not 11 replies as the comment count shows when logged in
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Cubic Zirconia look like the real thing, BUT, when you know what you're looking at, you know-- They are Not. The same correlation applies to the trans ideology.
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@markusbaker1161 Ya, as males. :face-turquoise-covering-eyes::face-green-smiling::face-blue-smiling:
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@markusbaker1161 Duh
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@markusbaker1161 Oh, okay... You know males and females aren't the same thing, and that they aren't interchangeable and that fact is undeniable? 🙄 IF gender is a mere social construct, as you suggest-- and disconnected from biology (I disagree), then transgender is a mere social construct, which in NO WAY justifies those men violating women's private spaces such as dressing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, sports teams or prisons, if it has NOTHING to do with biology. Make it make sense
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@markusbaker1161 That didn't make it make sense. That was another cowardly deflection
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@markusbaker1161 Okay, it appears your cognitive dissonance is fully engaged. IF gender is a mere social construct, as you suggest-- and disconnected from biology (I disagree), then transgender is a mere social construct, which in NO WAY justifies granting those men who you've been referring to as trans women-- access to women's private spaces such as dressing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, sports teams or prisons, if it has NOTHING to do with biology. Make it make sense
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@markusbaker1161 You're adept at avoiding the pertinent focus of the dialogue. It makes conversing with you annoying, and it's why you're dismissed as an agitator and a troll.
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@markusbaker1161 The concept of gender as something other than describing the 2 sexes was quite literally crafted out in the second half of 20th century by people like John Money and Simone de Beauvoir-- But you keep on believing your talking point is valid. It isn't.
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@markusbaker1161 I get it... You're conflating stoooopid with smart, and your outcomes will continue to be wrong and confused. Believe what you will. It doesn't make you correct
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@markusbaker1161 Stoooopid isn't the new smart, and you are only aiming to agitate. Your inane claim that anyone has ever claimed they aren't valid people is intellectually stunted, and disingenuous at best. They're men or women, respectively. How they choose to present themselves doesn't change that fact. If you don't recognize them as men who've altered their appearance,or women who've altered their appearance... okay, that only illustrates the limits of your powers of observation.
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@markusbaker1161 The women who are being called cis by trans women against their will and having their privacy encroached on against their will believe their considerations matter too, might wonder why they don't get that same consideration from those men who you call trans women, and wonder how that's not the height of misogyny.
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Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future-- they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men who will say they're women-- And they don't even see it coming
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Don't gamble, if you can't pay the price, if/when you lose the bet
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@mariec3733 How come you fail to recognize the autonomy of the child's body-- that the mother created with her choice to engage in the one and only act which causes the unwanted pregnancy?
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@mariec7352 No you haven't. Unlike you, I believe in body autonomy for humans and that includes babies. Why don't you?
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Clearly unhinged from reality
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@blue.jay.s LOL... Men cannot become women regardless of their feelings to the contrary, and women cannot become men-- regardless of their feelings to the contrary. If your identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality and then must participate in your LARP and cosplay, then too bad, so sad-- that identity is a figment of your imagination and is in no way valid in objective reality. Cope Harder
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I had a paranoid schizophrenic tell me that aliens are in direct contact with him and the other true heroes on the planet. Also that they communicate through fruit. I just nodded. Affirmation treatment protocols suggest that their delusion should've been affirmed as valid. Make it make sense
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@joelcarmen6963 Broad studies have revealed certain trends within crime and victimization patterns. Adolescents are most likely to be victimized. Men become crime victims more often than women do, and blacks experience more crime than other racial groups. –National Institute of Justice Hope that helps you.
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it, and impose their way of life on everyone else in it's place.
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Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1. Your body and brain develop & grow together -> You simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2. Hating a part of you body so much, that you cut it off, is a mental illness.
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@darcymr353 The ones that get terminated is the obvious answer. Sad to see that cause and effect prove so difficult for you and so many others on the double digit IQ curve down slope
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LOL First of all, pronouns are objective and 2nd-- you wouldn't use those preferred pronouns when speaking to someone. You'd only use them when speaking about someone to another, and if their preferred pronouns are contrary to reality, it would be grammatically incorrect to use them as they might prefer. Seeing so many get triggered over this is hilarious
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@lavaniadelrey2807 I don't know about you, but I really am not concerned with the beliefs or the opinions of the mentally afflicted.
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Not if they're playing on a men's team, they don't.
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@Maksie0 Reality
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@conor.3875 Progeny
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@conor.3875 How is it not?
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@conor.3875 How is it not? Existence, and continuation of the species seems like a kinda obviously relevant priority-- to those with a functional prefrontal cortex. Do Better... Be Better
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The entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense
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You're conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence tomboys, effeminate males, and butch females), and attempting to rename them 'Gender', and that's incorrect
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That's because he's a lunatic
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@Ey3_s0cEt.4.20. If that were true they wouldn't self-delete at the rate they do
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@noyceofficial Your snarky comment refutes nothing, and establishes only that you have no argument. You fail to make your case. Congratulations.
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@__chinmay__ What are you talking about? Can you define the word, woman?
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@__chinmay__ And I asked you to define the word woman. Can you?
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whoa to the feminists who go along to get along with this crazy ideology as in your near dystopian future, you'll be oppressed by tyrannical men who'll claim they're women... And you don't even see it coming. Don't say nobody warned you
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SO? Just remember, when you think things are against you-- it's probably You, and the world doesn't owe you acceptance. If You want to integrate into society-- then remember that it's YOU, who needs to adapt. To insist that society must play along with your counter-culture position-- makes you seem arrogant, narcissistic, self-entitled and ridiculous. You're not the center of the universe and the world isn't going to reorganize itself to accommodate your subjective feelings, contrary to objective reality. You need to develop better coping mechanisms to deal with adversity, because not everyone is going to like you, or be accommodating.
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@geckogeico2212 Truth is not subjective. If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? In other words: If a girl, trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (supposedly the reason for transitioning), How can gender be fluid and separate from biology? Answer: It can't
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Too bad that no one asked if the trans-activists were aiming to prove the gender pay gap, and gender discrimination is a total myth, with their ideology's insistence that gender is fluid
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No-- Just No. Those men can compete against other men.
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Well, 'human' babies are human, other animal's babies... Not so much
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@Malpractice101 Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is respectable. Treating people with civility isn't the same thing as respect. Just sayin....
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@user-sm7hm4yb1l Try looking them up in a dictionary. They are not synonyms. Get a clue. I was making a point that Delta88's comment was one rooted in illiteracy
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@kendalrussaw6675 It is they, who insist that the world participate in their LARP and cosplay, by suggesting that the world deny objective reality, and w/ their insistence on the use grammatically incorrect pronouns, and that makes the debate everyone else's business. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. A woman isn't a social construct, feeling or a costume
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They're as believably female as the original hair transplant guys looked like their hair was 'natural', that is to say, Not at all. Expecting rational thought processes from the delusional is illogical
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@grciesvn How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@ToTheMaxGaming1 A fetus, a infant, toddler, teenager, adult and elderly adult are all various stages of human development. Choice is for prior to risking pregnancy, because after conception come the consequences of a new unique life.
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@ToTheMaxGaming1 No, a sperm is a required component for the conception recipe, which requires the sperm and the egg. Fertilization and the reproductive process is a well-documented phenomenon, which creates a new, unique human life aka a child
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It's not evidence that males can be females or vice versa. When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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Just be responsible with the choices you make. Since women are the ones who risk their bodies getting pregnant, when they facilitate the pregnancy by choosing to allow men to lay with them-- they aren't being forced into their choice to risk it
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@mariec3733 Since men aren't the one's who get pregnant, why are you suggesting they should be more responsible for your choice to risk pregnancy than You are??
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I don't know a single straight male who's scared of homosexuals, or fear trans-people
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They do that-- and I correctly use the appropriate pronouns of grammar and let him know-- sir, you're rude and not being very lady-like. Cope and seethe if you must dude
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You can't have everything, so if you can't have what you wish you could-- Want something else
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Or women who require prostate exams
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@Maksie0 There are no trans humans. There are only males and females, and that state is fixed and permanent. Now you know-- Cope and seethe
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All women are born female, making the use of cis/trans totally irrelevant and useless
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@RioToast That was never my goal. You've certainly not been very persuasive re: your adoption of the cult mantra, or of making the case why everyone should deny objective reality and be required to participate in your LARP and cosplay as though it's based in objective reality. Opinions... Some say they're like @-holes... everybody has one, but I say opinions are like 0rg@sms-- mine is more important than yours, and I don't care if you have one. I'm just happy to expose the incoherent ideological cult narratives, for what they are... Total nonsense. Cope Harder
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It looks like they still haven't figured out that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender yet. Allowing men in women's restrooms doesn't seem rational or reasonable.
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They're merely caricatures of that which they can never be-- women
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Such as?
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@markusbaker1161 Done answering to you. F- Off
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@markusbaker1161 You're a liar. You should just come out as gay. There's no stigma attached to it anymore. I mean, you can pretend that a dude in a dress is a woman if you want-- but you're only fooling yourself
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@markusbaker1161 You have not proven anything I've written to be incorrect, liar. If you were competent and so sure I was incorrect-- you would have. Be Gone
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@markusbaker1161 Well, You have internet access and can research the info for yourself. It'd be easy to prove anything I've written to be inaccurate or incorrect, if I was wrong, and-- You haven't proven anything I've written to be inaccurate. Is it a lack of competence on your part, coupled with an incoherent argument? I say it is. I'm not writing or submitting a scientific paper for peer review to you, so-- There is that. I am merely reporting the existence of information, stats, facts, and analysis which are all verifiable for those interested in the topic. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total lack of any actual virtue to be found in any of your verbal diarrhea, demonstrating intellectual bankruptcy.
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@markusbaker1161 Then, it sucks to be you. Competent adults do their own research to confirm information for themselves. i reject your narratives-- and am not interested in indulging your intellectual diarrhea any longer. You've gone out of your way to be an insufferable twat-- so expecting integrity from you is not logical nor reasonable. You fail to make your case. Deal with it and move on. Your opinion has proven to be without value, and substance-free
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@ItsSchwifty It's redundant, at BEST. There are people. They are male or female. There are segments of each which present with various physical and psych disorders-- some with multiples of each, none of which invalidate the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species.
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@Maksie0 Calm down, Blossom
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@Maksie0 Your incessant whining looks like you're the one crying about the fact that we're not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote your make believe fantasy as though it was reality. Too bad so sad. Cope Harder
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They're men, and recognizing that isn't a phobia. It's just being observant. Science and medicine has established that all mammals are male or female, respectively-- and that status is fixed and permanent. Black’s Law Dictionary defines woman as “an adult female human being.”
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Being unable to articulate a coherent argument when refuted, is a sign of intellectual incompetence
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@saralynn518 You should really quit, while you're behind. It's just embarrassing at this point
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@saralynn518 Yours, apparently hasn't prepared you to refute me. I exposed your nonsense for the nonsense that it is. Do Better
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@saralynn518 The stages of human development appear to confuse you
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@eveliinahannele No, need. You already know. If you don't know what a human is, I seriously doubt anything I will tell you will give you a clue. Feel free to continue playing the part of the fool
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@eveliinahannele You've made no case whatsoever, making your commentary less than useless and totally irrelevant. Congratulations
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@saralynn518 You go ahead and continue to fail to realize that every seed is a particular kind of seed, that comes only from a particular kind of plant, that when planted-- will only grow into the type of plant that produced the seed in the 1st place.
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@eveliinahannele It appears that the stages of human development confuse you too. Best of luck w/ that
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@saralynn518 Science confuses you... plants and animals only produce offspring of their own kind. That's why it's call REproduction No it's a marigold seed, then a marigold sprout, then a marigold plant. It appears the stages of development of plants confuses you too. You can answer nothing, apparently. Cry harder... The opinions of those who can't even recognize that which is human, while trying to make a point about what is not human-- are irrelevant. You appear unable to answer my questions. shocker...
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@saralynn518 You failed to factor into your analysis and conclusion, the only thing relevant, which is that the egg of a woman, when fertilized-- is capable of being nothing other than a human You're dismissed
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It's the NEW trendy goth 2.0 for these Gen Z kids.
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@Maksie0 They lower your IQ. Which explains something about your commentary
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LARPing the part of a fool
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@TheLegendOfRandy Consent to sex is = to consent to risk the avoidable
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@TheLegendOfRandy Your analogy is flawed. You didn't, in the analogy-- "choose to get t-boned". You chose to "risk driving", KNOWING that there is a risk of an accident while driving. That's why you have to have insurance, which first of all covers others-- in the event that the accident is YOUR fault, then you have additionally added coverage to insure yourself against irresponsible drivers, who are uninsured. When it comes to driving. You have insurance, because you know there's risk and you already accept it, by default-- evidenced by you having insurance, and again, when you choose to drive. You KNOW there's a chance you'll get in a wreck. Does that mean you're not entitled to medical treatment in the event of a collision, of course not. Your argument is lame. When it comes to knowing that you don't want to risk pregnancy, It's TOTALLY up to YOU whether you risk it or not. It's also up to you on how big of a risk it is, based on your precautions or lack thereof-- as the case may be.
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@Maksie0 In a car accident, you're not entitled to do anything with someone else's body. Don't mix metaphors... The baby didn't choose for you to risk getting pregnant. You chose to accept the consequences-- when you chose to risk being an incubator and care taker for the next 9 months, because now you're taking care of not only yourself, and I realize being a narcissist, you care nothing for anyone but yourself Pregnant people are able to get medical treatment.
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@Maksie0 If you were pregnant and in an accident, your baby would be entitled to medical attention too. Critical thinking, and logical, intelligent analysis-- clearly isn't your forte'. 🤣 Be responsible enough to minimize your risks and take preventative, precautionary, measures to avoid getting pregnant-- if you don't want to get pregnant, because afterwards come the consequences for your poor choices and it doesn't just involve You.
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@Maksie0 It involves the baby too, you half-wit
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The 'Because you said so' standard is rejected, and has been issued ZERO credibility. You're really going to have to do better
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So, what the trans-activist narrative is saying if taken to it's logical conclusion is-- There is no gender pay gap, and quotas and affirmative action should be eliminated, being as gender is fluid? Ya, it is ridiculous
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@cinna_won Not much of a refutation. Your virtue signal is acknowledged and fyi-- it is lacking any actual virtue. You need to do better
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@cinna_won The 'because you said so' narrative has been issued exactly ZERO credibility, so you're really going to have to do better. You've established nothing, and have refuted even less. Just sayin... Well, the feminists who go along to get along are going to face a reality where they'll be oppressed by men-- claiming to be women in restrooms, showers, locker rooms, and in prisons and don't forget-- competing in the workplace, screwing up women's sports. It's deeper than your perception is capable of comprehending, apparently
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People identifying as something they're not, and believing that somehow it transforms reality-- is what's wild. What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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The problem you have is that life is based in objective reality, which exposes your narratives, as intellectually vacant. Women aren't a social construct, feeling, preference, nor a costume. Women (ALL of them) are born female with zero exceptions. Choosing to call an apple an orange, doesn't alter the nature of an apple nor an orange. Your preferences re: s3xu@l matters don't alter whether or not you're male or female, and neither does choosing self mutil@tion or castration. The thing is, societies which have been long established, and steeped in tradition aren't obligated to abandon their established cultural norms to support a counter-culture ideology. To suggest that they owe it to you is the height of narcissism and arrogance. It's for YOU to integrate into the society which you choose to be in, not for them to change for you. Sheesh.... That sound you're hearing is the sound of rejection from the vast majority of the people on earth, of the trans-activist, ideological, cult narratives. Nobody owes you. Cope Harder
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@Maksie0 Yes, when it results in your pregnancy and you casually dismiss the value of your own child's life. People are definitely in charge of controlling their own bodies, and when they get pregnant, it isn't just 'Their' body anymore. The baby's body is it's own.
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@mariec3733 The option to end an innocent life, in the name of convenience isn't justified
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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Gender and sex are intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. No one is saying you can't express yourself as you wish. You can identify as a Klingon if you choose-- BUT, that doesn't mean that others will perceive you as you perceive yourself. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do.
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No...sex/gender isn't assigned. It's established at conception and observed and documented at birth or before. Gender roles are a social construct that refers to the roles of males and females in society. ALL woman are born female, all men are born male and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference, personality trait nor a costume
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@quesadilla9957 None of those save people from the consequences of their own actions, or elevate their character to more than a base animal seeking only self gratification. Try Again, junior?
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@quesadilla9957 Seems like a solution to mitigate unwanted pregnancy's for such people is not relevant.
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@quesadilla9957 Like with a coat hanger? What's the problem? You now want kids?
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ROFLMFAO.... There are no trans people. There are only males and females and one cannot become the other. If your identity is predicated upon the notion that everyone needs to deny objective reality and participate in your LARP and cosplay, then sorry, not sorry, that identity is not valid at all.
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@LooseCannonShannon777 They are a tiny fraction of the population. Men cannot become women regardless of their feelings to the contrary, and women cannot become men-- regardless of their feelings to the contrary. If their identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality and then must participate in their LARP and cosplay, then too bad, so sad-- that identity is merely a figment of their imagination, and is in no way valid in objective reality.
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No, the trans activists saying that trans women are women, is a cult narrative pushed by a cult ideology
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I keep waiting for someone to bring up the scholarships women may be losing out on too
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@giannaknipping1693 I observe that there are women who've figured out how to plan their family's effectively and utilize their preventative birth control effectively, and contrast them against those who've clearly NOT figured it out, and instead-- keep getting it wrong. Don't tell me that birth control isn't 100% effective, because that seems to only affect one group-- and it isn't the group that values the lives of their children. What do you think they know that eludes the others???
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Looks like someone that’s supportive of eugenics, by suggesting that people shouldn’t face any adversity - so your solution is to terminate them? Lol. Wow
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@giannaknipping1693 The word fetus literally means unborn. In a human, it can be nothing other than a human. This is why you turn up to biology class instead of art class lmao
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@giannaknipping1693 That's not an answer to my question. What do you think they know that eludes the others???
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@giannaknipping1693 BTW, a woman who facilitates her own unwanted pregnancy isn't a child-- and so, is without excuse for facilitating her own unwanted pregnancy's
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You don't want to get pregnant, PLEASE just-- don't
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What is his IQ score?
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It's the overly-emotional reactiveness, not crying per se-- that was being addressed
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@krasmasov6852 Those with a functional brain, who are observing the clear lack of self-control that someone like a Karen, who's out-of-control on the floor is exhibiting with their lack of decorum. Hope that clarifies things for you. Not holding my breath
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Well, that isn't a refutation by any stretch of the imagination. Do you believe your understanding of the science is valid? Well... There you go
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Quit conflating gender (There are 2 male/female), with gender roles (ALL based on being male or female, with long-established tradition and history) and personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys)
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@moon_0207 It's known as communication, and we use words to do that, so the meaning of words matter, to achieve comprehension and understanding.
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@Maksie0 There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making cis totally irrelevant and useless. What do you get out of provoking women?
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They're attempting to redefine personality, and character traits 'gender'. The narrative is incoherent and delusional. If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? In other words: If a girl, trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (supposedly the reason for transitioning), How can gender be fluid and separate from biology? Answer: It can't
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@sbm9190 Well, you could have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, give them hormones, etc... and it doesn't make them an actual Klingon. If they think it does, those feelings makes them delusional. The expectation that the world perceives you as you perceive yourself, in defiance of objective reality-- is ridiculous
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@axelthegreat3895 Instead of announcing your ignorance, how about using your internet access to look up the definition?
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@markusbaker1161 No, they do however hate that they can't become women.
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@markusbaker1161 Not in reality they aren't. Still males
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@markusbaker1161 Nope. Women aren't a social construct, and neither are men
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They're still women, only they've altered their appearance and screwed up their natural hormone levels to appears as that which they can never be-- ie. Men
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@Maksie0 Nah... They don't have difficulty deciphering reality from fantasy fiction-- like you do
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@mariec3733 What's your point?
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@mariec3733 About a month ago. In the trans videos you were insisting that men can become women and vice versa
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@conor.3875 Duh... And??
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They're activist, agent provocateurs. Nothing more
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@PKMNFan4664 Quick History Lesson: 13th Amendment: Abolished Slavery 100% Republican Support: 23% Democrat support 14th Amendment: Gave Citizenship to freed slaves 0% Democrat support, 94% Republican support 15th Amendment: Right to vote for all 0% Democrat support:100% Republican support N. Dems protected slavery. The civil war was about the Dem party North and South, which opposed the abolishment of slavery and the Republican party—which was only in the North. The Dems have been the party of racism and slavery for over a hundred years, and they still are.
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@A Google User "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@PKMNFan4664 And... You'd be Wrong. The 1965 Voting Rights Act was signed into law. Contrary to myth, Republicans supported this law much more than did the Democrats. In the Senate, 94% of Republicans voted in favor, while just 73% of Democrats voted for it. • The Dem party was the party of the Dixiecrats all the way through the 60’s. • If what the flawed narrative suggested were true-- that the blacks made a switch to their racial friends, it would appear the switch would have to come in the 70’s and the 80’s-- When blacks see the racists are switching, BUT—in reality blacks switched overwhelmingly in the 1930’s. • The Black Vote went from about 15% to about 75% democrat within about 4 years. • The reason blacks switched from R to D’s had everything to do with the New Deal. • Blacks in the North and the South switched to the Dem party because of New Deal Benefits Redefining terms is what they do, to cause the confusion making it easier to serve up revisionist history to the ignorant, during their indoctrination (K-12, and continued into "higher learning"). Many have been led to believe that the political spectrum places groups such as Communists on the far left and Fascists or Dictators on the far right and political moderates or centrists in the middle; However, a more accurate political spectrum will show government having ZERO power on the far right, and having Total government power on the far left. At the extreme Right there is NO government, at the extreme Left there is TOTAL government under such labels as Communism, Socialism, Nazism, Fascism, Princes, Potentates, Dictators, Kings-- ANY form of TOTAL government. Those who claim Nazis and Fascists are right wing never define their terms. This amounts to spreading confusion. Toward the middle of the political spectrum can be found the type of government, limited to it's proper role of protecting the rights of the people. That's where the Constitution of the USA is., and those who advocate for such a form of government are really Constitutional moderates.
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@slowdownnurgonnaa Single dad here, who raised my son from the time he was an infant, says that you're coming across a someone who is likely to be perpetually offended.
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@slowdownnurgonnaa Never said single parents can't come across as perpetually offended.
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@slowdownnurgonnaa Did you also have to go through a custody battle, win and retain custody? In my case, the mother wasn't in the picture AT ALL, so all that house cleaning, helping w/ homework, band-aids on boo boos etc... was done by yours truly
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@slowdownnurgonnaa I didn't accuse you of anything. The virtue signaling of the perpetually offended that annoys me is when their virtue signaling contains ZERO virtue, but is loaded with hypocrisy, and arrogance-- expecting the world to coddle their sensitive feelings, as though they're entitled to a stress-free existence and acting like the world owes it to them-- while screaming "It's Ma'am"-- while not acting very lady-like and clearly not fooling anyone with a functioning prefrontal cortex.
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@diva-xh7nu Not as a suitable treatment for those who suffer from delusions.
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@Maksie0 You spelled Dissociative Disorders wrong
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@markusbaker1161 You spelled Groomer wrong
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@markusbaker1161 Not all men are beta males like you-- There's no fear, or judgement going on here-- just the observational capacity to see that they are not that which they present themselves as. If you want to pretend they are, fine... You do you
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@markusbaker1161 Boo Hoo... They're not women... They're still men, and their self-perception doesn't alter that fact, and neither does choosing to refer to them by another name like trans-women
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@markusbaker1161 That's just another word you're using to describe those men. Suck it up buttercup
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@markusbaker1161 That doesn't prove anything I've stated incorrect. Suck it up, buttercup
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@markusbaker1161 I'm saying, those men are not women, and people recognize that. If you don't-- fine... If you do and want to pretend you don't, that's fine too. Either way, it doesn't make them women
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@markusbaker1161 I'm saying that your arguments are irrelevant. Those who you're calling trans women are men. It's really not complicated
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@markusbaker1161 They're men. Deal with it
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@markusbaker1161 That's what I said. They're men. You have established that you have comprehension challenges when it comes to definitions. ex. The definition of gender: Gender refers to the sex assigned/observed at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. The social aspects of being male or female are socially constructed, and they're well-established since the dawn of time. 'Transgender' is an abstract social construct that's not based on biology or in reality. That you wish to close your eyes to the facts, or protest about them-- change nothing.
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@markusbaker1161 Transgenderism is definitely a social construct, without any connection to objective reality. Next??
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@markusbaker1161 Doesn't matter. Transphobia, like transgender is a mere social construct with no basis in objective reality. Trans women aka Men-- are not Women. That you don't get that is truly of no significance.
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@markusbaker1161 Transgender is a social construct. Got it! That doesn't change objective biological reality.
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@markusbaker1161 You can't make the case for why someone who's XY should be considered XX (As would necessarily be the case, to substantiate the statement that trans women are women) or trans XX. You cannot make it make sense. It's total insanity, incoherent and removed from logic and rational thought.
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@markusbaker1161 Duh... You still can't make the case and neither can anyone else
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@markusbaker1161 See-- You can't make the case, and neither can anyone of those you that you cite. There are none so blind as those [like you, and those like you] who would not see
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@markusbaker1161 stoooopid chatbot-- You can't. It's a simple as that.
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@aaralyn6710 Wrong... Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female-- and those dudes were not. Now you know
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@mariec3733 Answer: Cause and Effect. Even if bans don't stop all of them, it's a win for the innocent majority who get to live
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@mariec3733 I already answered you in the other thread
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@mariec3733 If banning abortions doesn't stop them to a significant degree, why would it matter to you-- if they're banned?
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No, it's due to the fault of irresponsible women risking pregnancy, in 99% of cases
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@TheLegendOfRandy Really? That's your assertion? Truly ridiculous and pathetic. You have no argument which justifies terminating the innocent.
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@mariec7352 Nope, That's wrong too. You're batting 0 for 1000. You have no argument which justifies terminating the innocent.
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@tesuki1258 The majority of kids in foster care are older kids, and are there as a result of their parents having some sort of legal issue regarding custody.
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@Natalia-mv6bf Women are not forced to have unprotected sex, so if you want to chase pleasure, you have to bear responsibility for the possible outcomes. No innocent life should face termination because of the lack of responsibility among adults. Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can choose to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know, that the others-- who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, don't?
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@Maksie0 Cis is irrelevant. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female.
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@Nathancant1953 You appear to have a difficult time with context. It's a term used in chemistry to describe the position of certain molecules one to another, and has nothing to do with gender identity.
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@hheizll Not much of a refutation
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@oop5985 She's the only one that's VP of the US. Way to miss the point
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@oop5985 Define, woman
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@oop5985 You're the one who brought up generalizing all women-- try to focus So, define woman
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@annholiness8759 Ya, she did great. How much are you guys paying Russia for natural gas and fuel now??
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@mariec3733 You sound mad. Get help
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@mariec3733 There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born females. Your failure to comprehend that is at the root of your confusion. Cope and seethe harder if you like, but it doesn't change the fact that those dudes aren't women of any kind
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@andrefernandez5431 There are males and females. That's it... Now you know. A woman isn't a costume that men can put on, and she isn't a social construct. Update your understanding to comprehend the fact that personality and gender aren't synonymous
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Acting like? They are women
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@roisincrowe1489 In EVERY way, since they are in fact-- Women. Personality traits and temperament aren't gender exclusive
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@krasmasov6852 Did I claim that? A tomboy, acting like a boy-- is still a female because personality traits and gender are not gender exclusive. How is that confusing for you?
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@krasmasov6852 You deleted my reply, or do you little fly-by sniper comments, then block me-- so my replies aren't visible. WEAK and VERY telling... and what it says about you, is not very complimentary. It exposes you as a troll and a fraud
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Nobody ever accused the libtards of intelligence
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@Maksie0 Only to you... and the others, who have difficulty deciphering reality from the imaginary
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@varyolla435 Not when they are not FDA approved and are coincidentally and conspicuously missing any evidence as to their efficacy, testing, etc...
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WRONG. They say gender identity and sex are separate, but haven't been able to justify encroaching on spaces designated segregated based on sex, as an entitlement. Not even close They also haven't come close yet, to being able to justify the expectation that just because they present and identify in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must treat them as though they're the opposite sex. It's absurd
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Still male. The narratives are inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament (neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), as synonymous with gender, and that's incorrect
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@sbm9190 Stating a fact isn't attacking anyone. If anything, it's challenging the absurd narrative's assertions
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@sbm9190 I am relatively relaxed. I can't control how people's cognitive dissonance is manifested, when they are challenged on their ignorant assertions and proven wrong. "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@goldenrule8706 They have no arguments which justify their agenda
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He's a moron. There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female. He wasn't.
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@Maksie0 Being that all women are born female, how do you figure it's not totally irrelevant and useless???
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They get confused about the difference between science-fiction v science
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@charcoalgea2863 Even a monkey can tell the difference between males and females. What's your excuse?
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@conor.3875 Listen carefully... That's the sound of men and women rejecting your incoherent ideology and terminology for the bull 💩 that it is. Don't believe me? Ask Budweiser
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@Maksie0 "Socialism has a history of failure so blatant, that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it".-- T. Sowell
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@ry-dh2kk What about them? You think they present with organs other than that of male and female?
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@ry-dh2kk Correct. Intersex only present with male or female-- and do not invalidate the binary whatsoever
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@ry-dh2kk Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender.
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@ry-dh2kk Not counting this comment, there are only 3 comments showing out of 7. They're shadow banning the comments because they have ZERO integrity, and are afraid of the truth exposing their narrative as nothing less than hollow and intellectually bankrupt. Try logging out, and revisit the comment section
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@Maksie0 What a load of crap. They're free to participate in society
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@Maksie0 Gender and sex aren't disconnected. Gender is NOT a social construct. Gender roles are the social constructs and they're well-established, which is why the counter-culture trans-narrative is itself the real construct and you seem unable to process that distinction. Your inability to process the truth of it, doesn't invalidate the truth. We're not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe, or cater to feelings. NO! Just... No They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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@markusbaker1161 Deciphering the difference between gender and gender roles appears to cause you difficulty. Not a me problem
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@markusbaker1161 HAHAHAHA Oh Blossom... You're wrong but that's ok, you can blame your ignorance. You've again, refuted nothing whatsoever.
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@markusbaker1161 No, it is not. Cry Harder, Blossom. No one takes you seriously
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@markusbaker1161 Well Blossom, there appear to be a majority of people watching you make a spectacle of yourself, and rejecting your minority opinion narrative, based in nothing more than your feelings-- based in subjective delusion, as less than useless. I know that I'm not going to ignore what can actually be observed with our own eyes, so that I can promote make believe, or cater to feelings based in dissociative delusion and subjective imagination. NO! Just... No They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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@markusbaker1161 🤡
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Birth defect and infertility is not uncommon in that type of case. What do you think of those cases?
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It looks like they still haven't figured out that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender yet. That's the root of their confusion
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The narrative says that a girl, who thinks she's a boy is in fact a boy and that it's an immutable characteristic-- SO, then why the need to transition if she's already the way she's supposed to be, since gender according to them is fluid? It's incoherent madness
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Both are men, portraying something they're not-- ie. women
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I tend to agree to a degree. Feminism is what's under attack. To ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where as a feminist you'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are now women.
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HILARIOUS! Leftists: We want state run and funded healthcare State: Ab0rti0n is banned Leftists: ReeEEEeeEEE :face-purple-crying::face-blue-smiling:🤣
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@rdhaley96 Strawman? It's actually happened. Try to keep up. There isn't a middle ground for a meeting of the minds between those who have a moral foundation which values life-- and those who don't, then who go further and categorize it as disposable, so they can indulge in the one and only activity which causes their totally avoidable self-inflicted dilemma..
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@rdhaley96 Well, that's not much of a refutation. There are no logical fallacy's in my comment.
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@CreativeUsernameEh When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect, Psych Disorder... That's it, so take your pick. Oh, and No, intersex isn't another gender in the binary, it's a birth defect
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@CreativeUsernameEh None taken. Make sure to get all your boosters too
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@Maksie0 It is the trans-activists like you, who's insistence that others-- who are already minding their own business, participate in your LARP and cosplay, by insisting on the grammatically incorrect use of pronouns, and with no regard for the displacement of women's privacy, which is at the root of how you brought your business to everyone in public, making it their business. Irony or idiocy? Quit your whining. You look and sound ridiculous
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If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? In other words: If a girl, trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (supposedly the reason for transitioning), How can gender be fluid and separate from biology? Answer: It can't
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@Maksie0 You'll see
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@peeteee Men (ALL of them) are born male, and those women weren't
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@Maksie0 You're terrified of reality
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@catboyash Yes, it is, and has been for millennia.
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Well, in Texas-- Nothing since PP has halted ALL abortions in the state. Any other questions?
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Fact: He's a caricature of that which he wishes he could be, and never will be-- a woman
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These m0r0ns probably think there's 53 states too. Not too bright... shocker
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They are witless twits--that much is certain
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Because it IS about genitalia-- to them.
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Yes, they lose their minds when you ask for the scientific evidence that men can become women, then their cognitive dissonance kicks in when it's pointed out that it simply doesn't exist
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Women are the only ones in charge of risking pregnancy, when they choose to facilitate the avoidable
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Babylon is rising
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Groomers, feverishly at work
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@markusbaker1161 Dog groomers have to do with the grooming of dogs. trans women, drag queens and cross dressers are all men. Cope harder
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@markusbaker1161 Define woman
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@markusbaker1161 They're men. The reasons that they present as 'other than' men, and choose to go by another name doesn't change the fact that they're men.
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@markusbaker1161 that's synonymous with men
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@markusbaker1161 A quick look at the comment section shows that to be WAY wrong. How humans treat each other? That's a pretty big brush stroke. You think all peoples of all communities treat people the same, do you? That's wrong too. Not all cultures are equal, compatible, nor desirable... That's why sovereign nations have borders
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@markusbaker1161 That's your explanation for why adults commit crimes against other people? Ok... Your conclusion doesn't seem too well thought out or insightful at all. Shocker
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@markusbaker1161 That any crime at all occurs, since according to you-- adults know how to treat people-- illustrates the shallow intellect behind your statement-- as there shouldn't be any crimes committed by adults who know how to treat people
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@markusbaker1161 Look, I know you're almost as smart as a fence post and all, but it's clearly beyond your capacity for intelligent, reasonable thought-- Blossom, or you wouldn't have made that intellectually bankrupt statement in the 1st place
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@markusbaker1161 They're valid, as I've told you before. They're just not women. They're still men, and that fact seems to unsettle you. Life's not fair... Get used to it
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@markusbaker1161 I really couldn't care less about how you take it. If you want to be gay, and pretend that your boyfriend is a girl, because he wears a dress-- you do you
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@markusbaker1161 They want to be called trans women so they can pretend they're not men, and instead pretend they're women.
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@markusbaker1161 Apparently, there is a lot you have no idea about.
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Unintentionally? HAHA, they know EXACTLY what they're doing akin to Dr. Frankenstein trying to justify creating monsters
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One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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Clever... He's not a trans woman, he's a transplant. 🤭
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@truerealist757 Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1. Your body and brain develop & grow together -> You simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2. Hating a part of you body so much, that you cut it off, is a mental illness.
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@Maksie0 Nope... There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female.
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@Britney1106 DNA dictates the production of objective biological differences between males and females. 100% of the population is either male or female, even intersex people. If they have a Y chromosome, they are heterogametic and male. If not, they are homogametic and female.
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Gender is not disconnected from biology and a mere social construct. If it were, there'd be no reason to alter your appearance to be like that which you can never be-- What do you think you're transitioning from-to? Comparing the terms 'trans-men' to 'men' indicates they're something else. That something else is Women, because there are only 2 selections to choose from. Having a plastic surgeon alter their appearance to be more-like that of a Klingon from Star Trek, doesn't actually make them a Klingon. Same is true w/ trans-surgery and treatments altering hormone levels. Men cannot become women, and women cannot become men. Believing that altering your appearance makes it possible indicates a massive dissociative disorder.
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@krasmasov6852 Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable-- that's why sovereign nations have borders. Don't believe me, take your trans-activist ideology to a Middle Eastern Nation and see how long you keep your head.
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@labow12 Don't be triggered. Is a useless virtueless 'virtue signal' all you've got? I find it telling that no one has refuted anything.
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@conor.3875 No, cis was 1st used in 1888 and it is characterized by having certain atoms or groups of atoms on the same side of the longitudinal axis of a double bond or of the plane of a ring in a molecule 2. relating to or being an arrangement of two very closely linked genes in the heterozygous condition, in which both mutant alleles are on one chromosome and both wild-type alleles are on the homologous chromosome It has nothing to do with gender
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@conor.3875 I don't believe you're correct. In any case, trans isn't even a thing-- when it comes to mammals. They are all male or female, respectively-- and that state is fixed and permanent
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@conor.3875 There are males and females. That's it. There aren't any trans people. Altering their appearance doesn't change what they are
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@conor.3875 Seems like you prefer to argue.
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@conor.3875 That's a 'yes', you do prefer to argue for argument's sake-- I know. You've gotten it totally wrong on gender. Gender (There are 2), refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. You then, inappropriately conflate gender, personality traits and temperament-- as though they're synonymous and they are not. Learn the differences. Then, you conflate gender and gender roles. Then, you conflate male and female. Then, you conflate men and women. Get real
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@conor.3875 Well, that isn't much of a rebuttal. You seem confused about science, and the fact that there are no trans humans. There are only males and females-- That's it. Women aren't a 'Feeling' or a social construct. They're adult, human, females and as it turns out the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. Now you know. Now, Go seethe and cope-- then, in the future, be relevant for a change
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@mariec3733 How in your mind, does advocating in favor of abortion demonstrate valuing innocent life? The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual virtue in your sport-trolling
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@leahcimmmm Thank You
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@mariec3733 🤣😂😆 So What? You can't establish any foundation for advocating in favor of anything-- thus far.
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@mariec7352 If a mother's life is in imminent peril and nothing is done, she and the fetus/baby perish-- as it cannot survive at the 20 week +/- marker, outside of the mother-- for the VAST majority-- when those decisions typically required to be made, and so seems to be in a not dissimilar category as suffering a miscarriage, as it goes to the fate of the unborn's termination. How is it not? Why do you appear to have a problem with women being able to save their lives? Looks like it Sucks to be you. Once again, you didn't comprehend a single response given. If you don't care about a woman's culpability in preventing her own unwanted pregnancy, why and how does, as you've done continually-- pointing to a man's contribution matter? It's not like she could get pregnant, if she didn't facilitate and enable her own risk factors and ensuing dilemma. What do you think she needs to figure out, that millions of other women seem to have figured out-- related to avoiding their unwanted pregnancy's? Why does personal accountability and responsibility appear to trigger a response from you that looks like desperation, as you try to reassign blame and avoid a woman's personal accountability at any cost, in her role of facilitating her unwanted pregnancy? You've failed to explain your thoughts adequately. How do you continually fail to account for those facts and factor them into your analysis and conclusions?
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They aren't trans anything. Still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after. Still male or female, respectively as they were on the delivery table
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@Maksie0 How sad that you have difficulty deciphering the difference between males and females
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@Maksie0 No contest. Matt would be driving a Mercedes
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You don't want to risk a pregnancy? Alright, then don't. Women who "choose" to facilitate the risk of their unwanted pregnancy by again-- "Choosing" to engage in the one and only act which causes it, have no one to blame but themselves. I expect that people who aren't prepared to risk pregnancy and deal with the consequences avoid them, and for someone with some integrity to inform them that the world doesn't owe them a life free from adversity. Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can "choose" to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, don't?
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@benswagnerd633 Use your brain. The 1% of cases where it's an assault isn't what are being referred to regarding choice, for what should be an obvious reason, but none the less, it doesn't invalidate the point you appear to be attempting to avoid.
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@darcymr353 The only point you have is on top of your little head
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@purplepurplepurple2162 😏
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A significant portion are activist trolls
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Need to bring back asylums
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If your identity relies on everyone in the world denying objective reality-- then that identity is not valid. People are valid, but fr@udulent ID's aren't valid anywhere
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The appeal to the intellect of middle schoolers is why you love them?
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@mariec3733 Life is worth living. Why do you disagree?
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Personal achievement, and the merit of one's work
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Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth nd the social aspect of being male or female, respectively. It is not disconnected from sex. They're intrinsically linked
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@markusbaker1161 I provided you the etymological info on the word gender. Shame on you for laughing at people with psych issues
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@markusbaker1161 I'm sure you believe that is relevant somehow. I accept that individual people are unique and 1 of 1. The difference is, I recognize the difference between fantasy and reality. They can cosplay all they want. They're still not that which they claim to be, or as they present themselves.
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@markusbaker1161 Better watch that blood pressure. I definitely question the ethics of those who treat these people w/ affirmation therapy, and there are other doctors who do too, and some of that legislation you drone on about addresses that too, as well as bans of sports teams, and in bathrooms and locker rooms etc... That you're unaware changes nothing. You should quit while you're behind
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@markusbaker1161 Meh... Well, you know what they say about opinions. Some say, they're like @-holes... everybody has one and... Some say, some opinions are more valuable than others-- for a reason I say, they're like 0rgasms-- mine is more important than yours, and I don't care if you have one
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@markusbaker1161 You've yet to prove yourself relevant. Still XY, not trans ANYTHING. They're nothing more than a caricature of what they wish they were and can never be-- a woman. A face lift, genital mutilation, and a wardrobe change-- and none of that turns a male into a female, no matter how much you wish it to be true, it is not. They're engaging in gender appropriation in the form of a caricature. They're the same as they ever were-- dudes w/ psych issues and physical mutilation to prove it Change my mind... Ready, Set, Go.....
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@markusbaker1161 I have no reason to disagree with my conclusions and change my mind. You have certainly provided no reasons to reconsider my position. I have NO problem realizing that there are people who have identity issues. I wish them well in their endeavors to deal with those issues; however-- recognizing that they are not that which they present themselves as, just makes me observant-- Not hateful I haven't been able to make sense of those who advocate affirmation care as a default protocol. The sad fact about the people who suffer with gender dysphoria, and those who inappropriately put themselves under the same umbrella-- who do not suffer with it, yet cosplay as though they do, have other underlying traumatic issues in play-- in addition and the su***de (both prior to and post surgery) is so much higher than the norm, and post surgery-- the numbers I've seen are astronomically high as well, showing unremarkable movement-- SO that being said, I just don't see how it's possible to see those rates and believe it's effective. Can you make it make sense? I can't
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Same 'Look at us' desire for attention??
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No, it's for them to adapt to society. It's not society's job to deny reality for them
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@smitty3347 There is a prerequisite to being a woman, and that's being born female. Those dudes weren't. Now you know
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The problem they have with their virtue signaling, is the total absence of any actual virtue in any of their unhinged whinging
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@despairwaffle6798 I understand the narrative. I just recognize it as incoherent. They suffer high anxiety when facing having to select the appropriate restroom, while whinging about a white, male--dominated patriarchy, at the root of a gender pay gap, while insisting that gender is fluid. Ya, it's ridiculous The ridiculous notion that the world needs to accept those who can't accept themselves-- as they are, but rather must accept them as their delusional sense of self would dictate-- is ludicrous. You can chop off your dog's balls, but he's still a male dog. You can shove a chicken feather in your butt, and you're still not a chicken, no matter how much you think you identify as one-- as if you had a frame of reference in the first place-- and you do not
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@chatbabies5475 The psych literature indicates there's at least a 40% chance the individual has a mental health issue, which leads them to be a danger to themselves. I wouldn't go of my way to be rude, but I'm not indulging the delusional fantasies of clearly confused people, as though their assertions are based in reality, when they are not
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@showithere8550 You wrote, "what’s also scientific recorded is that white cis-men are more likely to commit suicide due to mental health problems than any other racial/gender group… so…what are the implications of that?" Well, to put it in perspective-- what you're talking about is equal to only about 3% including all other people combined which is a WAY bigger number of people-- compared to the 40% of the trans-communities numbers that you realize they're really worse off by a LOT more. Hope that clarifies things a bit for you
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@showithere8550 You wrote, "3.5% is still quite a lot of people, than any other group of people especially, that's still quite concerning 😟🤔. Poor white guys. I wonder what's the issue? the bottom line is, most people struggle with mental issues whether they are aware of it or not, or whether they get help for it or not. You using a statistic of a small group of trans people having mental problems is not the flex you thought it was. Try again."-- Then I guess you're blocking me, because your comment and my replies are not showing up when I reply. Whatever... Not when you look at it in proportion to the 40% of those in the LGBTQ community, and realize that of the 3% of the total population, only a small fraction of them are LGBTQ, but then-- I realize that, "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance". -- T. Sowell No, most people don't struggle with mental illness, but all people struggle with difficulties. There's a significant difference with how the two comparatively-- face their trials and challenges
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@mythsologyyy Look, you can't legislate the universe into being fair. The ridiculous notion that the world needs to accept those who can't accept themselves-- as they are, but rather must accept them as their delusional sense of self would dictate-- is ludicrous. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect or evidence that a psych evaluation and treatment commence immediately-- That's It. Period, FULL Stop Alone in the shower alone, they know they're a guy Found damaged and unconscious in a wreck, the EMT's know he's a guy Dead on a slab, the Coroner knows he's a guy Archaeologists finding his bones and DNA, Knows he's a guy. He's a guy pretending to be a girl. Don't be a science denier... Just sayin
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@mythsologyyy No worries... It doesn't refute anything I've posted in the least, nor indicate any lack of relevance on the part of my comments or responses
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@chatbabies5475 I would recommend writing something relevant, rather than that sort of idiocy, which appears to be designed to prove beyond any doubt-- that your shoe size dwarfs your IQ. Got anything? crickets... Kick Rocks Fool
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@showithere8550 If they were honest about the topic, the tech censors wouldn't be deleting the comments-- that expose their narrative as full of crap
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@showithere8550 I did, w/ links too-- but the censors blocked and deleted them. Do a search of trans sui-cide rates
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@showithere8550 You're going to have to do a quick google search. The censors won't allow direct links, leading to facts which destroy their narrative. I tried, and they've been deleted
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@Skyehiii Great, hopefully you're doing Well/Better, but the focal point of the topic is at the heart of the narrative that gender is a social construct, and not tied to biology. You seem to be proof that it is NOT merely a social construct and is connected to biology, prompting you to have to alter your appearance to appear more like that of a (?) gender construct, or a male or female? I'm going to guess that you chose, and told your surgeon either a male or female? Am I correct?
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@Skyehiii I agree, you can't change your sex, but-- I think that your explanation comes across like trying to rename 'personality traits', "Gender" (as if they're interchangeable-- and they're not), for people who are not suffering from Gender dysphoria, to justify their role play and indulgence in their base perversions. How is it not?
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@Skyehiii There would be ZERO frame of reference to presume to identify as "ANYTHING" other than what they are: Male, or Female. Using an extreme example just to make a point... Delusional people, who may insist they're a unicorn, expecting people to use their pronouns, as if it's based in reality are going to continue to be disappointed, because their expectations that the world owes them anything whatsoever is in and of itself, delusional Straight, Gay, or Bi are descriptions of sexual preferences, not genders.
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@chatbabies5475 Save it... the problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual 'virtue'.
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@Some Not only that, but-- I decide what to validate and issue credibility to for myself-- I don't leave that to some random individual's purview to decide "For me"
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@lynxfyre-z3l Why does it matter to you?
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@arianagarcia732 It's when those insisting that their delusional fantasies are validated by others-- in opposition of objective reality, where things get more nuanced and objectionable to those interested in truth-- do they not?
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@EfremCCTV They're men. Science and medicine has established that all mammals are male or female, respectively-- and that status is fixed and permanent. Black’s Law Dictionary defines woman as “an adult female human being.”
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@markusbaker1161 You know, there entire institutions of learning, and the entire medical industry existing that prove your statement absurd
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@markusbaker1161 Oh, okay...:face-turquoise-drinking-coffee: You know males and females aren't the same thing, and that they aren't interchangeable and that fact is undeniable? :face-turquoise-covering-eyes: IF gender is a mere social construct, as you suggest-- and disconnected from biology (I disagree), then transgender is a mere social construct, which in NO WAY justifies those men violating women's private spaces such as dressing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, sports teams or prisons, if it has NOTHING to do with biology. Make it make sense
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@markusbaker1161 Don't ask, if you don't intend to read it. Scroll up if you're interested
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@markusbaker1161 Don't care... Your clown routine is boring
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@markusbaker1161 Feel free to refrain from future unsolicited responses aimed at me or my comments.
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Get on it. You finance it too
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There is no other kind of woman, but those humans-- born female, who grow into adulthood. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then their identity is not valid.
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Stay away from the kids, Groomer
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@keefecarroll1985 Grow a spine
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@keefecarroll1985 How many kids have you raised who became happy, well-adjusted, productive members of society?
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@keefecarroll1985 I'm done being nice. Men cannot become women and women cannot become men. Cope Harder. My point is, raise your own kids-- and stay tf away from other people's kids. You got a problem w/ that message? Too bad
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@markusbaker1161 Says the groomer activist
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@markusbaker1161 Says the antagonist who can't articulate why they believe the narratives they're following are correct
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@markusbaker1161 I told you-- I'm not interested in anything you have to say, unless it's an explanation as to why you believe those who you're putting your faith in, are correct, when their peers have articulated why they have issues with the conclusions, treatment protocols, and outcomes of their treatment. Why do you dismiss the opposing medical experts and professional's assessment and their reasoning?
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@markusbaker1161 M0r0n... I asked, Why do you dismiss the facts presented by opposing medical experts and professional's assessment and their reasoning? Checkmate. You've lost
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@markusbaker1161 It's as though you think my question isn't clearly visible. It's still there too. No worries, there are a lot of cult followers who get swindled into following along swindlers, just because someone said to follow, and in blind faith they do to their own peril-- and apparently you're one of them.
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@markusbaker1161 Making your claims that I haven't proven you incorrect a fantasy based in ignorance-- Nothing more
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@markusbaker1161 Science isn't a consensus and experts disagree. You only follow along with those who produce your sought confirmation bias, and can't articulate why you believe they're correct-- in lieu of the reasons why other "experts" say they are not. Hmmm...:face-turquoise-drinking-coffee:🤕 You seem to only regurgitate what you've been told, and have no analytical capacity to question the claims of those you follow-- when contrasted against expert medical professionals who explain why they disagree with their ethics, treatment protocols and outcomes.
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@markusbaker1161 Science is not a consensus. You're citing pseudo-science, and political-science
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@markusbaker1161 No you aren't. The medical professionals who oppose those you rely on, already have articulated the problems with those who you put your faith in, and have noted their reasoning on the problems with their ethics, treatment protocols and horrendous outcomes. The fact that you want to pretend they haven't, doesn't change anything. I already told you a long time ago-- we'll have to agree to disagree.
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@markusbaker1161 I support info that makes sense to me. Those medical expert professionals who oppose the ethics, treatment protocols, and horrible outcomes of those in whom you put your faith, have documented their reasons, and rational-- and they make more sense to me than those you believe-- who profit off the misery of others
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@markusbaker1161 There are expert medical professionals who are not in agreement with what you purport to be facts, and your 'understanding' or lack of understanding of them-- doesn't change the truth.
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@markusbaker1161 I appreciate you endorsing my ability to follow the reasoning of those who have made a coherent case, based on their medical expertise, and analysis of the available data, and their scrutiny of those-- whom you follow. You and I disagree. The relevant difference is, I've articulated why I disagree, and you have not articulated why you dismiss the reasoning of the medical experts-- opposing those in whom, you put your faith. No worries. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, and you certainly aren't persuading me, that your belief is founded in anything other than blind faith and the willingness to ignore inconvenient truths-- which expose the problems with the shallow arguments, and hollow slogans you've been using-- while making a a spectacle of yourself.
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@markusbaker1161 What part of we'll have to agree to disagree was confusing for you? You don't seem to be able to live up to that. Be Gone
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@markusbaker1161 :person-turqouise-waving::text-green-game-over:
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@markusbaker1161 That's why so many who are trans can't cope with it, and self delete
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@markusbaker1161 You figure they self delete because they can cope with the truth? Weird The stats show their choice to self-delete is much higher than those who aren't trans. Why do you think that is?
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@markusbaker1161 No doubt, being concerned with facts, and evidence and the efficacy of your accepted treatments-- prescribed by those in whom you put your faith, you'd have searched for information on the topic. What did you find?
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@markusbaker1161 Did you not care enough to search?
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@markusbaker1161 Not to you. Don't be lazy. If you cared-- there's no excuse to remain ignorant of your own choosing. If you're not interested enough to look it up for yourself-- That's on you
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@markusbaker1161 Prove it
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@markusbaker1161 No, prove I don't care at all. You said it-- so, now prove it
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@markusbaker1161 You set out to argue for sport, free from a coherent argument and intentionally engaging without integrity factoring into the equation. I appreciate your arguments providing me the opportunity to sharpen my arguments counter to yours, and to see more clearly the disconnect of the trans narrative from reality. I was instead, hoping for an actual conversation with some honest dialogue-- but I try to make the best of things, there is none to be found with you
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@markusbaker1161 Don't be lazy. Do your own research. If you think you can debunk what I said-- Go for it. You haven't yet. No trace of an explanation of why you believe what you assert to be true and accurate, or to prove what I said to be inaccurate-- That's certain. Those hacks you refer to as experts are challenged by their peers in the medical community, who take issue with the ethics and treatment protocols of those who you put your faith in. Your cult is rejected.
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@markusbaker1161 All you proved is that you'll blindly follow along with someone just because they said so, without question. You never did articulate why you believe what you assert to be true and accurate, or to prove what I said to be inaccurate-- nor did you Give any reason why you dismiss/don't consider the merits of their expert peers in the medical community, who take issue with the ethics, treatment protocols and horrible outcomes for SO Many treated by those, in whom you put your faith.
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@markusbaker1161 What overwhelming evidence specifically debunks the empirical data used to scrutinize the analysis and conclusions that you assert supports the treatments?
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@markusbaker1161 You got nothing
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@markusbaker1161 You're Rejected
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@markusbaker1161 You're rejected.
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To ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where as a feminist-- You'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are women and you have to compete with them in the work place and on the sports court, and in prisons, etc... Do you think that should be validated by society at large???
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@thecolorblue1635 Your failure to engage the point tells a lot about you. You seem intent on proving beyond all doubt that your shoe size dwarfs your IQ. Irony?? LOL
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@Maksie0 ROFLMAO... Not even close. What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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Why is it so hard for leftists to mind their own business and raise their own kids how they see fit? How about that?
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@mariec3733 How come you fail to recognize the autonomy of the child's body-- that the mother created with her choice to engage in the one and only act which causes the unwanted pregnancy?
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The definition of a woman is an adult, human, female. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect/Anomaly... That's it. The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule, they prove they rule-- hence being the exceptions.
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@chloe_3787 They can't define 'woman'... similar to Clinton's issue defining 'is'
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@charlesbuckinghamrobertson Exactly
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@charlesbuckinghamrobertson The ideology deserves such mockery. It's incoherent nonsense.
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@charlesbuckinghamrobertson No worries-- I'm pretty sure I can live with that
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Uh huh...
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@amani7753 You seem triggered, and to be projecting
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@Kahtilik Yes, they only have one goal-- when they do opt in favor of an abortion
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@mariec3733 Looks like a comprehension deficit on your part. I can't help you there
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There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women, illustrating that the entire narrative is a totally bogus faith-based belief with zero evidence to support the claim that trans women are women. :face-turquoise-covering-eyes:
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@Maksie0 Stop projecting. You fools go out of your way to stand out and seek attention for your counter-culture caricatures of the opposite sex that you attempt to portray, and you whinge when you're recognized for what you are, called out for it, and having your cult beliefs and incoherent narratives rejected by the vast majority of the population-- who aren't confused like you. Checkmate / You Lose
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@mariec3733 Your cult narrative and terminology is rejected. Gender-- there are 2, and they are fixed and permanent. No one in history has transitioned from male to female. Cope Harder
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They're narcissistic, misogynists who just want what they want
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The nuance is in rational vs irrational fear-- and what you do with that fear.
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Both are men presenting as that which they are not an can never be-- ie. Women
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@kurthaas4331 It's a burlesque form of entertainment expressed generally by men portraying the stereotypical caricature of a woman. Look, you can identify as a Klingon for all that matters, and that doesn't make you a Klingon, and anyone who suggests it does is delusional too.
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@Zaciah93 The incoherence of the ideology is that gender is fluid, and simultaneously claims that a girl who say's she's a boy-- is in fact a boy, trapped in a girl's body, and that she has an immutable male identity, and that she's been that way since birth-- and both can't be true. They are in conflict
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@Maksie0 And medical professionals disagree with their ethics, treatment protocols, analysis and conclusions regarding affirmation based treatment models too-- SO, why do you put your faith in those whom you reference believing they're correct? Anything??? Bueller... Bueller...
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@Maksie0 So confirmation bias is what you seek? Wrong guy here. I've made my case why I believe I'm correct and you are not. You, on the other hand, have not made yours. EVEN IF I agree that gender and sex are not connected (I don't)-- You STILL haven't explained how it is that those biological men are justified in being granted access into women's private spaces-- since you admit that you believe that sex isn't affected by or connected to gender, it doesn't make sense to say that trans women are women. Do you have any original thoughts on the challenges I brought up about your point of view, definitions and disjointed absence of logic in your narratives? If not-- We'll leave it at agreeing to disagree Then you better hope those who you're putting your faith in graduated at the top of their class, but still-- the results of their approach are horrendous evidenced by the number of self deletions that occur, even after transition are relatively unchanged from those who haven't yet undergone their treatment protocols, BUT-- be sure to get your 20th booster and go run some laps. FYI, and fwiw-- Science isn't a consensus. Oh, and regarding curling up in a hole in the ground-- That isn't very lady-like. I'm a gentleman, so You 1st
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@geraldbrooks8507 Welcome to reality-- There are no trans people. There are only male and female people and that status is fixed and permanent, regardless of what the trans-cult activists say to the contrary
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@ConsumingBacon69 What's your definition of marriage based on?
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@c2dajayy "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@mariec7352 You have the ethics of a phone scammer
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@mariec7352 Where isn't it a crime in America to neglect feeding your child? 🙄
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You should've explained it here.
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@bettyhe601 Is the resulting child's life somehow less valuable?
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@mariec3733 Why do You lack the capacity to care for both the woman, and the innocent child growing in her womb? How does terminating the innocent resulting child erase the the mother's rape, and not obviously create 2 victims-- where there was one prior? What evidence are you relying on, to suggest she doesn't "care" about the women who are violated?
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@Maksie0 Missing the point that the age of those scrolls dates back as far as they do, showing that male and female have been that way for all of recorded history? Wow
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They can dress up perversity as diversity, but they're only fooling themselves, if they think their self perceived fantasy is representative of reality-- in ANY way. Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they re after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. --Still men
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I don't get it... If someone gets implants in their @ss and identifies as a Centaur-- That doesn't make them one, but that seems to be the rational of those suggesting that altering one's appearance and identifying as the opposite sex, actually makes them that which they identify as... Make it make sense
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The incoherent ideology's anti-woman narrative insists that men can be women too, so eventually, women become obsolete. Men and women need each other to perpetuate the species. Men cannot become women and vice versa. Get a clue
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@clarissalenz4938 You're in the reject category, don't worry about it
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@jamiemcv12 Trans is the new 'goth'
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@charcoalgea2863 Monkeys can tell the difference between males and females. What's your excuse for your confusion on the matter? The prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. Your juvenile comments and inability to process facts indicates you're kinda slow. The only ones fooled are you trans clowns and those who affirm your LARPing and cosplay-- which are the vast vast minority.
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@xshinigamix9661 Men cannot become women regardless of their feelings to the contrary, and women cannot become men-- regardless of their feelings to the contrary. If your identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality and then must participate in your LARP and cosplay, then too bad, so sad-- that identity is a figment of your imagination and is in no way valid in objective reality. Cope Harder, and take your time to process reality
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@mariec3733 The responsibility that comes with the consequences of your choices. How come you fail to recognize the autonomy of the child's body-- that the mother created with her choice to engage in the one and only act which causes the unwanted pregnancy?
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@mariec7352 I already did, remember?...And you admitted to not being able to comprehend them
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@mariec7352 Lie? It's a question. Try to focus
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@mariec7352 I believe that human life is precious and inherently valuable. Why don't you, evidenced by your desire to terminate the lives of the most innocent and vulnerable, as a matter of convenience? I just don't see anything righteous or virtuous in any of your comments.
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@mariec7352 You're wrong, and your comment didn't answer the question. You Really need to do better
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@mariec7352 It's a question, not a statement of fact, and therefore not a lie. Get Real
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@mariec7352 Look, I get it... Your only goal is to troll. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual virtue. You lie
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@mariec3733 I believe in body autonomy for all humans, including babies-- Why don't you?
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@mariec3733 I don't expect you to admit to the truth, as you've lied about things I've said many many times, and the comments are all there to validate what I'm saying. I mean it isn't as if you haven't proven that you argue and agitate at every opportunity for sport, while disingenuously engaging in what I'd compare to a phone scammer's ethics, with a politician's evasiveness, failing to ever directly answer a question honestly. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Just pointing out the incoherent things you've said-- and you are desperate to avoid it-- The truth is not subject to your admission, nor your denial. You writing that not all lives are valuable, qualifying-- "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of" (in other words) unless they are sufficiently charitable to a level of your satisfaction, is patently absurd and the amount of ego behind that is unreal. Your narcissism is off-the-hook.
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@mariec3733 Same to you. Watching you project and deny, then attempt to spin what you meant compared to what you actually wrote, and what I actually wrote is entertaining and disingenuous at best. You really need to do much better
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@fleurlister1670 Well, make better choices
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@mariec3733 You just want to justify terminating the lives of the innocent, and you can't. You are not forced to have unprotected sex, if you want to chase pleasure, you have to bear responsibility for the possible outcomes. No innocent life should face extermination because of the lack of responsibility among adults.
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@mariec3733 This is the Information Age, and let's not pretend women don't know what they're risking, when they chose to engage in the one and only act which causes their unwanted pregnancy. C'mon now... Women are not forced to have unprotected sex, if you want to chase pleasure, you have to bear responsibility for the possible outcomes. No innocent life should face termination because of the lack of responsibility among adults. Terminating a pregnancy of a rape victim doesn't restore the loss of autonomy, taken by their violent attacker. You're reaching again... It does however, create 2 victims where there was previously only one. Just sayin....
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@mariec3733 I'm under no delusion that there is a potential for a meeting of the minds, when it comes to philosophical issues about morality, such as issues like these which separate those who value life as something bigger than just an opportunity for self-gratification-- from those like you, who just don't.
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@fleurlister1670 Not much of a justification for the termination of the innocent in the womb.
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@mariec3733 You've been dismissed as a less than useless troll
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@fleurlister1670 You're a clump of cells too. Just sayin... fyi-- In utero surgery, proves you incorrect
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If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? In other words: If a girl, trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (supposedly the reason for transitioning), How can gender be fluid and separate from biology? Answer: It can't
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Intersex is a birth defect, not another gender. The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule; They prove the rule, by being the exceptions
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@conor.3875 No doubt, you will believe-- when the time comes, and boy will you feel silly
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@conor.3875 Time will tell
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It's XX, XY, Birth Defect. That's it. Doing cosplay, doesn't get it done, and neither does gene therapy w/ surgery with an elaborate costume. If anything it's more trans-human than transgender. Gender and biology aren't separate. The ideology's narrative is incoherent. They're attempting to rename personality traits and temperament-- which are not gender exclusive, 'Gender'-- and that's just incorrect
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TOTAL Intellectual bankruptcy. There are males and females, and there are minority segments of each which present with birth defects and various mental illnesses/psych disorders. They aren't "trans" ANYTHING. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance and chemistry, as they are after.
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@Plaggy77 No, I had a feeling that you weren't even as deep as a baby spoon-- so, I didn't miss that. Your cognitive dissonance seems to have affected your ability to communicate intelligently. You're dismissed
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@mariec3733 Why are you still stalking me to talk to me? Kick Rocks Fool I think 95% of biologists concur that life begins at conception
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Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. How are they, not misgendering themselves? Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively-- and male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, it is my opinion that they are caricatures of that which they wish they were, but are not. In order to be a woman, one 1st needs to be born a female. That characteristic is fixed and permanent, and surgery, makeup and wardrobe don't facilitate that condition They are not that which they present themselves as, being the relevant focus. That is not an opinion, but an observation based in objective reality. It's not an insult to recognize something for what it is
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@markusbaker1161 The word accurately portrays what I intended. Your feelings about that, say something about YOU. I can't help your feelings-- That on You. You may be fooled if you see a kit car that looks like a Ferrari, but I'm not. It doesn't mean I hate kit cars. It just makes me observant
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@markusbaker1161 You can handle my car analogy? Ok-- well... They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick,either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 Obfuscate all you wish... It changes nothing Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 Since I'm not trying to persuade you, your inability to comprehend, or agree is of no significance.
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@markusbaker1161 No need. Your side of the isle are trying to persuade society to redefine terms,and accept their premises. You, failing to make a persuasive case doesn't impact me in the least littlest bit
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@markusbaker1161 Nonetheless, you're presenting the trans activist arguments. I have no need to prove reality to you. That's a YOU problem,if you can't recognize the differences between males and females. I've merely present my thoughts on the topic, and you haven't persuaded me to see things from your perspective, and you haven't refuted my comments. Another YOU problem.
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@markusbaker1161 You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and have not justified allowing men to infiltrate women's private places, because of their subjective identity claims. Why do you hate and disrespect women?
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@markusbaker1161 Feel free to dismiss yourself
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There is only one kind of woman, and she's born female.
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Scrotey McBoogerballs The longer I live on this planet, the more I understand why roosters start their day screaming. These are delusional lost souls
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Lots of studies show that conservatives are happier people than leftists.
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@Hotrodchef89 Interesting that the comments I made, which you responded to are now shadow banned, as they're not visible when logged out. You come across as totally disingenuous with the ethics of a phone scammer
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@Hotrodchef89 Feel free to attempt to refute what I wrote
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@Hotrodchef89 Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. All they're doing is altering their appearance and body chemistry. They're not 'Trans' ANYTHING whatsoever. Their the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after.
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@Hotrodchef89 Of course people are more than their genitals. That was never in dispute. The notion that, because people alter their appearance means that it somehow changes their sex/gender-- is what's in dispute.
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Because men are more decisive, and it shows when you see that women are more likely to "Attempt" suicide and realize that men are more likely to succeed at actually killing themselves
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@Maksie0 Can you even define that?
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Meh... One should always speak the truth to falsehoods, especially in a debate. That's sort of the point
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@Maksie0 The standard segregation based on biology will suffice
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Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are inappropriately confusing and conflating gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous and they are not, while simultaneously insisting that biological sex and gender are disconnected-- while failing to realize that a subjective identity doesn't alter anyone's biological reality. Lost souls
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@mariec3733 You seem triggered. Your cult narrative is rejected. Cope harder. People, from the dawn of time, could tell the difference between males and females, just fine without the ability to view their DNA under a microscope. That you find it complicated is entirely a YOU problem. Watching the faithless proclaim their faith in this cult narrative as something true and correct, as if based in reality-- is something to behold.
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And others are like cornbread, that isn't cooked all the way to the middle
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The self-deletion rates after the procedure, doesn't show well for the effectiveness of affirmation based treatment protocols, and calls into question the ethics of the medical and psych "professionals" who facilitate those procedures.
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There is no such thing as a life free from adversity, and facing adversity isn't justification for terminating the lives of children
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@azrael9011 Not at all. I think women who aren't prepared to risk pregnancy, shouldn't-- and those who do, have no one to blame for facilitating their totally avoidable, self-inflicted dilemma, but themselves. It isn't as if they didn't know what they were risking, now is it? That doesn't justify terminating the lives of children.
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@azrael9011 What are you talking about when you describe, "if there is no possibility of consciousness or a life outside of the womb"??? That would be a still-born scenario, would it not?
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@azrael9011 Try logging out then revisit while logged out, and see how much of what you wrote is being shadow banned. My pending question to you is still visible
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@Maksie0 Dude, women who are trans are trans men. Get a clue
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@markusbaker1161 I hunt trolls. It's what I do
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@markusbaker1161 meh... He keeps saying that ridiculous comment and it's just wrong. Bot or m0r0n... Why do you think they don't update their material to avoid looking ridiculous? or perhaps they're a paid agitator like you-- just looking to get clicks. Judging by the comment section comments-- that's backfiring in a big way
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@markusbaker1161 You seem heavily invested in arguing for sport. I don't know why and I don't care why.
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@markusbaker1161 And I told you. I really don't care
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@Maksie0 You lose
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Wars have been waged by leaders of men and women and the civilian populations throughout history had nothing to say about it
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@clarawilliams6845 Absolutely nothing. It does however illustrate that women are the cause and have the capacity to be the solution to the problem, and the only thing standing in their way is them
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@conor.3875 What presumed risk are you suggesting I had, regarding what goes on in a delivery room? What are you talking about? It seems obvious that the one who took the risk on being in a delivery room, was the woman giving birth.
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@conor.3875 How? It's not like they can force a woman to: grant them access, not to take the pill, or not use an IUD, or accept them choosing to not wear a condom.
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Source??
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@xfulloflife8718 And you bought that? ok...
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@paint67 They're not trans anything. They're the same sex prior to altering their appearance as they are after. They're LARPing
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Exactly correct. Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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How are these so-called 'trans-women' not just males w/ a quirky fashion sense, presenting with a caricature-like persona of their stereotypical and subjective version of womanhood? Renaming a male something else like trans, doesn't make him any less male. It just changes what you're calling a male. Where's the coherent thought in that?
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@Maksie0 Not like you, working w/ Jubilee
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Looks more like a drag queen, but doesn't act like a lady
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@markusbaker1161 potato=potato. He's a dude dressed up like a woman
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@markusbaker1161 Observant people recognize that he's not a woman
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@markusbaker1161 I recognize them as a person too; Just not one of the opposite sex, as they would prefer
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@markusbaker1161 Well, then Fine. They're men in a costume
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@markusbaker1161 Fine-- They're still just men, regardless of their costume
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@markusbaker1161 Still males, or females. I don't care what you or anyone else wants to call them, discerning reality isn't a challenge for me as it is apparently with some others
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@markusbaker1161 Your opinion is noted and rejected.
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@markusbaker1161 Don't Care. You've failed to be persuasive. Go play the fool w/ someone else. Turning off notifications for this video
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@markusbaker1161 Lucky for you... You'd be terrible at it. Conversely, it's not my responsibility to recognize, and affirm someone's subjective self-perception, contrary to reality. If someone's identity if predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective reality, then their identity is invalid.
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@markusbaker1161 How are they-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? And I asked, Why should those men who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria be granted access to women's private spaces? You got nuthin Blossom
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@markusbaker1161 Blossom, your integrity = 0 In the future, just know that when you insist on your preferred pronouns, the 'I don't care' response you gave, will be returned to you with a smile
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@markusbaker1161 Whinge away Blossom. Your intellectual deficit is showing again. Your nonsense is seen for what it is. You got nuthin
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The Satanic bible perhaps...
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Just some perspective: The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. They're merely caricatures of what they 'WISH' they were, and can never be One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@conor.3875 It's really of no consequence, since there is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female.
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You do you and raise your kids how you see fit.
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@markusbaker1161 Mine is in his 30's
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@Maksie0 Say the trans activist. LOL
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@Maksie0 So, you don't know how the notifications work then? uh huh You're continually saying that trans women are women, and that's patently absurd and totally wrong. Your own ignorance overwhelms you
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@markusbaker1161 Changing what you call men doesn't make them something other than men. The women who are being called cis by trans women against their will and having their privacy encroached on against their will believe their considerations matter too, might wonder why they don't get that same consideration from those men who you call trans women, and wonder how that's not the height of misogyny.
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@markusbaker1161 They're men. trans women are merely a social construct being acted out by men. You seem to have a hard time coping with that being recognized
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@giancarlocaballero7684 Both mammals, and like ALL other mammals-- they're male or female and nothing but male or female. Thanks for playing
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@roaryes7536 The fact is you can have a surgeon alter your appearance and that doesn't change whether or not you're male or female-- since that is a permanent state, even if you, in your delusional alternate fantasy, REALLY believe it. It's She; A woman is an adult, human, female
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@naivelopez3601 It's the insistence that we recognize and perceive them as they perceive themselves, contrary to reality-- that's the issue which triggers, THEM-- when we don't
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@heyo80 How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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Men pretending to be women and infiltrating women's sports, locker rooms, dressing rooms, the work place and in prisons-- is a problem for a lot of women. Hope that clarifies it for you
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@Maksie0 Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders -- who don't live in reality about there being two genders. XX, XY, Birth Defect, That's it! MANY are inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) with 'gender'. There are clearly males and females with various biological abnormalities, infertility, post menopausal, anomalies and surgeries, etc.-- still male or female, respectively-- and none are representative of a new sex/gender that invalidates the binary. You can neuter your male dog, make him wear makeup and a dress, and it doesn't make him a female dog. Just sayin... 2. Intersex isn't another gender in the binary. Why, because there is no newly discovered benefit or attribute elevating the human design and are often infertile, but always only represent the 2 sexes in the binary. Also, none are w/ the ability to reproduce offspring by themselves. It's a silly argument to make. Would you argue that people born with one arm and leg invalidate the norm of people having 2 arms and 2 legs? fyi-- It does not You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek and prescribe hormones etc... and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon, and those who think it does are delusional.
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@Tamara_Middleton For those interested to read and consider.
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@Maksie0 No, because women are not in need of any additional descriptions. The trans-prefix is the only one necessary for them for some reason. Still male or female as the case may be
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@Maksie0 Pretty redundant. Why would someone who believes they're a woman wish to have the distinction drawn? That's Odd
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They're trying to make 'stoopid' the new 'Smart'
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Incoherent nonsense, permeates the entire narrative
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@Maksie0 You really need to quit using that ridiculous slogan. Not according to your own incoherent ideological narrative, they aren't. Women who are trans are purportedly men...
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@Maksie0 Expecting not to be scrutinized, as to your incoherent, baseless claims is hilariously arrogant and naive
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@McCondom It's why they fail at life. The delusional women pretending to be men, and getting upset at not being recognized for their preferred disguise vs who and what they actually are, is what's funny to me
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@bgos4727 I say both, since clearly those who would attempt it more often are not an example of well-balanced, stable individuals
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Rape accounts for only 1% of abortions. They just want a free pass to indulge in promiscuity without consequences. If they engage in the risk, they risk the avoidable. It's not complicated.
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Not uncommon among the developmentally disabled
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Why let the children run the home? Be a parent and tell them, No. You're in charge of purchasing their wardrobe, and shutting down the nonsense with reason, rather than fostering and affirming a phoney reality
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@Maksie0 You don't get much of anything
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@Maksie0 There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Take your time to process the fact
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@Maksie0 It's rejected as incoherent nonsense by the vast majority of males and females on earth. Cope harder
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In the Middle East... You Do.
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@mellmell45 You could have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, if you like, prescribe hormones etc... and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon, and if you think it does, you're delusional.
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🙄 Half the panel are females
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To change someone's mind, one must 1st start with being persuasive and correct in your presentation
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:face-blue-smiling: Yes it has. The exceptions don't invalidate the rule. They prove the rule by being the excpetions
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@EvaLoVerde Your substance free commentary is noted.
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Gender and sex aren't disconnected. Gender is NOT a social construct. Gender roles are the social constructs and they're well-established, which is why the counter-culture trans-narrative is itself the real construct and you seem unable to process that distinction. The inability to process the truth of it, doesn't invalidate the truth. We're not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe, or cater to feelings. NO! Just... No They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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@Maksie0 That's not a refutation, at all. shocker 🙄 Why should those men be granted access into women's private spaces like dressing rooms, locker rooms, sports teams, restrooms or prisons?🦗🦗
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Why not? When you're hanging out, they'd use your name. You'd only have occasion to use their preferred pronouns if you were talking about them to another.
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It's much more simple-- a woman is an adult, human, female
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@mariec3733 There's no justification for terminating the lives of the innocent, barring the mother's life being in peril
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@mariec3733 What do you think a pregnant woman is pregnant with? Answer: a baby human, which obviously goes through various stages of development, continuing into adulthood all through their life cycle including the elderly in their twilight years.
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@mariec3733 There is no justification for terminating the lives of the innocent. Your opinion is dismissed as less than useless and completely absent any actual virtue, truth or righteousness in any of your baseless claims or unhinged whinging
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Cubic Zirconia look like the real thing, BUT, when you know what you're looking at, you know-- They are Not. The same correlation applies to the trans ideology.
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Support?
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They call men toxic, but when those men call out their toxic female empowerment, then the females label the men bigots and sexists. If I wasn't for conservative men, slavery wouldn't have been abolished in the USA. Get a Clue
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@Maksie0 You haven't made the case for why someone who's XY should be considered XX (As would necessarily be the case, to substantiate the statement that trans women are women) or trans XX. Why not try being relevant for a change?
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@markusbaker1161 Your trolling is noted. They're men, and calling them trans women doesn't alter the fact that they're men. Science and medicine has established that all mammals are male or female, respectively-- and that status is fixed and permanent. Black’s Law Dictionary defines woman as “an adult female human being.” Your confusion about the facts is clear. Your history of trolling with inane commentary is a matter of record.
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@krasmasov6852 It is not another sex either. It's a birth defect that demonstrates that there's a genetic abnormality as they show signs of both sexes to various degrees, but make no mistake, there are only male and female in the normal development of humans
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There are people. They are male and female. There are segments of each which present with birth defects, psych disorders, and mental illness/psych disorders-- none of which invalidate the binary of all mammalian species. Developmental sex disorders are not separate sexes/genders. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspect of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) and are incorrectly attempting to use the term as a synonym for/with gender
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@Maksie0 Your entire activist narrative is a nonsensical cry for attention, pretending that everyone must participate in your LARP and cosplay, as though it's based in reality, while you're trying to justify your hedonism as virtuous
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@babs_babs People are male or female... That's it. That status is fixed and permanent. Men cannot become women and women cannot become men. ALL women, are born female... Now, you know better. Update your thinking
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@Maksie0 Quiet groomer. You're full of 💩
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@freedommatters7677 It didn't get there in the 1st place-- without your consent to willingly risk getting pregnant.
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@Maksie0 Well when men pretend to be women, they clearly offset the opportunities of women for scholarships, job and career advancement, privacy concerns, and security concerns
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Correlation is not causation. There are only two choices throughout history; Male and Female. Most men and women throughout history have been ruled over and oppressed by tyrannical leaders and they had no say about it
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@mr.mclibtard5015 Yup
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Yup
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Your group think tendency is evidence that you need to get out of your echo chamber bubble
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@diavoios Usually, by someone in your own circle of self-abusers
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@ethandollarhide7943 Really? Then, explain the claim that the lack of affirmation by the immediate family and/or others-- is a causal factor in self harm behavior
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Though not uncommon
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@eveliinahannele Ask your dad
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@TheLegendOfRandy That's Amazing! Were you having a se'ance? using a Ouija board? a crystal ball? It's been more than 20 years since he passed away.
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@mariec7352 I'm unable to cure your comprehension capacity deficit, But-- here's something relevant: None of your arguments justify terminating the innocent-- Not even close YOU-- should try being relevant. Women are responsible for avoiding their own unwanted pregnancy's. Pregnancy isn't a punishment. Pregnancy is however, a known consequence and the cause isn't a mystery, so the women who facilitate their own dilemma are without excuse.
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@Diamondsparkle788 It's an observational capacity sort of thing
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@mariec3733 Men becoming women isn't real
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Because they are merely women who've altered their appearance
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How? They both enslaved their own peoples, then sold them into slavery.
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@Roxana Blacksea Nah... Not even close. From the dawn of time-- Freedom hasn't been the norm and both men and women have had to struggle just to stay alive, under the oppressive rule of Kings, Pharaohs, Chiefs, Potentates, Emperors, Amirs, Prime Ministers, Presidents, etc... "Socialism has a history of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it".-- T. Sowell Facts are awesome and stubborn things. Life isn't fair The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. Not reasonable or rational by any standard. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct.
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So many people mistake self-control, and choosing not to wear one's emotions on their sleeves for all to see at all times as a weakness they paint as suffering in silence. Amazing
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Gotta watch the 'We' assignments. We need more psychiatric hospitals, for 'Them' 😂😂😂
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Except for that chromosome thing.... They don't like that part of science
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It's TOTALLY ridiculous. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Cis is a term used in chemistry to describe the position of certain molecules-- one to the other and has NOTHING to do with gender
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@krasmasov6852 well, half the panel are females. Jubilee, it appears is attempting to be the homeland where psychosis and ignorance collide. Women cannot become men and men cannot become women. Oh ya, Again-- intersex is a birth defect, not another gender-- of which there are only 2. Quit conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament with gender-- it's just incorrect. 🙄
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True, but these people are Trans-Activists and aren't interested in truth, and are Anti-Women.
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@Moira_More "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell The trans activist's ideology is incoherent, and those who suffer from gender dysphoria have a mental illness-- so expecting them to 'Get it' isn't rational
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Their prostate exams must have yielded interesting results.
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intersex isn't another gender in the binary. It's a birth defect which presents with development of organs within the binary, only not so much functional
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@conor.3875 There is only kind of woman, and a dude in a dress isn't it. That's why
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 @conor.3875 well, now you know
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@conor.3875 Still confused about the difference in fact vs opinion, I see
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@conor.3875 No, it doesn't, but being that there's only 1 kind of woman, and that they're ALL born female-- 'trans', is the only conceivable modifier that might matters, because using 'Cis' would be entirely ridiculous
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@conor.3875 Your juvenile argument is incorrect.
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@Maksie0 How one subjectively identifies doesn't alter objective reality. Trans women are Men with issues pretending that they're women without issues-- Still Men. Take your time to process reality. Sex/Gender= 2 (Male, Female) Personality traits and temperament = Many (None are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, tomboys) Gender Roles (Vary from culture to culture, and country to country) ALL based around the various social aspects of being male or female, respectively in those various cultures, societies and countries
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@conor.3875 Wrong, and wrong again. You've yet to prove anything I've written is incorrect. All you have done is prove yourself to be a trans-activist agent provocateur-- who argues for sport and fails to persuade, when challenged.
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@conor.3875 Dude-- You're ridiculous! Trans women are Men with issues, pretending to be women without issues, having hissy fits when people recognize that they're men in a dress, and really aren't inclined to participate in their LARP and cosplay, as though it were based in reality. Quit conflating women, with social constructs like gender roles-- which vary from culture to culture, country to country and internationally, because they're not feelings or costumes that men can put on or take off, and they've been long established, in all of those various cultures and societies.
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@conor.3875 And NONE of them aren't born female.
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Make the case for why someone who's XX should be considered XY (As would necessarily be the case, to substantiate the statement that trans men are men) or trans XY. Ready... Go... Make it make sense
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@mariec3733 Intersex isn't a social construct dear. Trans women are a social construct played by men, who wish their disguise hid that they were men
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@kamala7101 I prefer to call them sir, bro or dude. 🤣😏
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There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female. That dude Blossom wasn't-- and isn't ANY KIND of woman, at all.
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@Maksie0 Bro, if your intellectual capacity were converted into electricity, you couldn't even power a toaster to lightly toast a piece of bread
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Proof that, This entire comment section is filled with single damaged goods - women over 30, and activist trolls and confused teenagers
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Trans women are men with a quirky fashion sense-- still men
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@Maksie0 There's no undoing top surgery and infertility
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Whoa to the feminists who will end up being oppressed by men, who say they're the women in charge now. smh
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@krasmasov6852 There are examples of trans-women who were incarcerated in a women's prison and raped and impregnated female inmates
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@krasmasov6852 Disagreeing with their claim that they are 'other than' the men or women they were born as, as the case may be-- isn't saying they aren't real people-- but you already know that. You're just trolling
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@krasmasov6852 Not my job to sustain their gender fantasies
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narcissist too?
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One side couldn't accept themselves so resorted to extreme makeovers to appear to be like that which they are not... The very manifestation of appropriation
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Not much of a persuasive argument so far
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Activist agenda is in play
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@marissamate I'm older and retired dear. My son is grown in his 30's. I planned my family and I recommend those who aren't ready to have kids, figure out some things 1st-- before engaging in the one act which will cause their self-inflicted dilemmas, so as to effectively avoid being their own stumbling blocks
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@marissamate Got it... the 'teacher' w/ the Masters degree can't answer the simple question. Weak smh... You're dismissed
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@marissamate If Democrats are so concerned about women and girls being raped, why do they release rapists from prison over and over?
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So... Men and Women-- Again? 6 one way/half a dozen the other
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@Maksie0 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born females. Those dudes weren't and will never be women; They're imposters and posers. Cope and seethe harder
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@Queenceba29 Transphobia is such a toothless label. It shouldn't surprise me that they think that has any validity to it at all. The minute they use that, just know they lost-- and you won the argument. There are no trans people. There are only males and females.
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But only those who repent and accept Him. Few will enter. We are witnessing the seed of the serpent vs the seed of the woman unfolding
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@jenniep.9143 Maksie and Marcus are trolls
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@markusbaker1161 Black's law dictionary defines a woman as an adult, human, female. How do you figure? What are you talking about? Their desire to be recognized as a construct?
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@markusbaker1161 I get it now... Those men wish to be seen as social constructs. Thanks
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@markusbaker1161 Clowns are a social construct
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@markusbaker1161 What, getting you to respond like a clown? Ya, I know
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@markusbaker1161 How haven't you? lol Trans women are a social construct played by men, who believe that altering their appearance hides that they are men.
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@markusbaker1161 You're the one that insists on calling men trans women, and saying trans women are women. It doesn't matter That doesn't invalidate the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species being male and female, now does it? Trans women are a social construct played by men, who believe that altering their appearance will hide that they are men. If you want to play along, go for it. It's cosplay and LARPing gone unchecked and unrestrained, imo
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@markusbaker1161 The women who are being called cis by trans women against their will and having their privacy encroached on against their will believe their considerations matter too, might wonder why they don't get that same consideration
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@markusbaker1161 There's a bunch of them here in the comment section protesting the cis terminology and having their private spaces like their locker rooms, rest rooms, dressing rooms, sports teams and prisons being granted access to those men-- noting it's the height of misogyny.
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@markusbaker1161 Don't be a dunce. Read the comments
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@markusbaker1161 To find the answers to your questions
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Correction: Facts don't change stoopid people's minds
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Bathrooms, showers, locker rooms, dressing rooms, changing rooms, prisons are designed and implemented around biology. What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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@zojaalicjaf1987 All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, preferences or costumes, and there are exactly zero exceptions.
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@ILovePink-x1v Lots of people waking up and voting Red instead. Just sayin...
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They realize that, "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@Namir Deshmukh The ideology is incoherent. Masculinity and femininity, assertiveness, agreeableness, passivity, etc... are personality traits and aren't exclusive to gender, hence Butch females and effeminate men. They're attempting to rename personality traits, "Gender" and that wrong too
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It takes-- 1st being female, to actually become a woman. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@freedommatters7677 The time for precautions against getting pregnant are before you risk pregnancy, because afterwards come the consequences-- so choose wisely, or stfu about something you did to yourself. You're not a victim of anything but your own poor choices. You're just ridiculous
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It looks like they still haven't figured out that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender yet. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@msrainbowbrite That condition of being male is fixed and permanent. They're merely caricatures of what they wish they were
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@Maksie0 Who are you to talk, Blossom
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@Maksie0 You tell me, why should a male be granted access to women's private spaces like dressing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, sports teams or prisons?
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@tonyonaperky2128 If they're leftists they do nothing else but gaslight
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If gender is fluid, and not connected to biology as they indicate, and they "Believe" that-- why the need to transition? What do they think they're transitioning into? It's XX or XY... That's it! Still, they also say that a girl, who says she's a boy, trapped in a girl's body-- is in fact a boy and that she has an immutable male identity as justification for surgery, hormones, etc... It's an incoherent mess as both cannot be simultaneously true
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@hockey_n_horses1181 Who cares about their made up terms? Rhetorical... The ideology is incoherent
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@Maksie0 Define, 'Woman'.
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Nothing is preventing a woman who wishes to avoid an unwanted pregnancy from doing so. She has the obligation to avoid it, and so should and is without excuse.
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@mariec7352 You need some new material. You're boring me
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@mariec7352 That doesn't justify your pro-choice position either. Have you thought about trying to be relevant?
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@mariec7352 The autonomy you're discussing is in place-- prior to conception. After conception, the body autonomy of the child, which the mother facilitated to be growing in her womb is a factor, and isn't the mother's to terminate in the name of bodily autonomy. Hypocrite
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@mariec7352 You're going to be waiting a long time. You're just wrong, evidenced by millions of women who successfully avoid unwanted pregnancies, and who successfully navigate planning their lives-- everyday
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@mariec7352 And what of the body autonomy, of the life that the mother created-- the moment she got herself pregnant?
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Having a plastic surgeon change your appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek, doesn't actually make you a Klingon. Same is true regarding gender transition surgery. Still, XX or XY
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@krasmasov6852 You know what else aren't real? Trans-women's claim that they are women, and trans-men's claims that they're men. Males and females are the ONLY two biological categories-- and that state is permanent. Your confusion not withstanding scrutiny, that men cannot become women and women cannot become men just because some surgeon alters their appearance, and unnaturally alters their hormones
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Getting back to the topic and realizing that the incoherent ideology is inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament-- none of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys, w/ gender - and that's causing a lot of confusion among lo-fi- thinkers and the impressionable. Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively-- and male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive hence effemiante males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@greenlanternhaljordan4974 See above... Quit conflating gender w/ personality traits and temperament. It's totally inappropriate
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@greenlanternhaljordan4974 Your comment which is apparently now deleted-- not withstanding scrutiny, evidenced by your reply which is not a refutation.
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@Josie-ux5wd They're an activist agent provocateur. The problem they have with their narratives is objective reality exposes their claims as nonsense and pure fantasy to those who don't have difficulty deciphering reality from the trans imagination
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Not surprising from people with mental problems
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He doesn't use 'they/them' when speaking to his friend. That would be grammatically incorrect. He uses their name. Only when speaking for yourself -- and then your choices are limited to I, Me, My-- unless you're talking about yourself in the 3rd person, which is pretty weird. You should get a refund from your English grammar teachers. You don't get to choose the one's that others use, when speaking about you to someone else. 1st person pronouns are grouped into 5 categories: Subject pronouns 1st person "I", Object pronouns 1st person "Me", possessive adjectives 1st person "My", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Mine", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Myself" 2nd person: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourself" 3rd person (Male): Subject pronouns 3rd person "He", Object pronouns 3rd person "Him", possessive adjectives 3rd person "His", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "His", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Himself" 3rd person (Female): Subject pronouns 3rd person "She", Object pronouns 3rd person "Her", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Her", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Hers", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Herself" 3rd Thing: Subject pronouns 3rd thing "It", Object pronouns 3rd thing "It", possessive adjectives 3rd thing "Its", Possessive pronouns 3rd thing "Not Used", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd thing "Itself" 1st person plural: Subject pronouns "We", Object pronouns 1st person "Us", possessive adjectives 1st person "Our", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Ours", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Ourselves" 2nd person plural: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourselves" 3rd person and (thing) plural: Subject pronouns "They", Object pronouns "Them", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Their", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Theirs", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Themselves". Now stop embarrassing yourself.
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Give it a rest. Being gay nowadays is trendy with no stigma attached like there was in the past
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition, and are then considered "rational"?
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Psych case
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There is only 1 kind of woman and as it turns out, ALL women are born female, making the use of 'cis' entirely irrelevant and utterly useless
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@foop2954 No, there aren't. Yes, sex is in fact binary.
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@foop2954 Oh puhleez... Just stop it. You're being silly. Trans women are Men w/ issues, pretending that they're women without issues. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Take your time to process reality for a change
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*Him. That dude isn't any kind of woman.
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The birth defect isn't proof of another gender. Get Real
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ZERO evidence that the shots work as advertised, BUT-- there's a ton of evidence that they do not
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@FittedMisfits1 Women aren't a threat men
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@TheLegendOfRandy If women don't want to risk pregnancy-- they don't have to. When they get pregnant-- it's not just them anymore. Get a vasectomy since you know you don't ever want children
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@markusbaker1161 That you're unable to make the distinction between gender and gender roles is a YOU problem
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@robo1513 Gaslight harder
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Personality and gender aren't the same thing. Learn the difference.
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@wizardweeb3102 Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh
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Just some perspective: California is the least literate state in the nation.
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@GAYmergirl709 You say that as if it's a bad thing
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@GAYmergirl709 Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@TheLegendOfRandy That has ZERO to do with women choosing to risk pregnancy, and does nothing to justify the termination of the innocent
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@TheLegendOfRandy It isn't someone else other than the woman, who facilitates her choice to risk her own pregnancy, with her own actions.
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@TheLegendOfRandy B o r I n g, and still irrelevant. Your commitment to this thoroughly debunked analogy is why you're dismissed, having failed to justify terminating the innocent with any sort of coherent argument. I already told you-- In the case of a woman's unwanted pregnancy, in 99% of cases (not including rape), as it relates to your analogy-- The woman is the drunk driver in your story, who consented to driving drunk/risking her own crash/unwanted pregnancy by her own actions, without a care in the world about the consequences to herself or anyone else.
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@TheLegendOfRandy I prefer to be relevant, and recognize that nothing about your analogy deals with the fact that women who wish to avoid an unwanted pregnancy can and should avoid them-- illustrating your preferred focus as irrelevant. Does a woman who isn't pregnant, and doesn't want kids, have the obligation to herself, and ability to remain that way? You driving analogy fails to discern that in your narrative, there's another party at fault for the accident. Regarding 99% of pregnancies-- All of those women are at fault for their own dilemmas
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@TheLegendOfRandy Your driving analogy fails to discern that there's another party at fault for the accident, where as in the case of women facilitating their own risk of pregnancy-- there is no one else to blame.
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They're still females/women
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@Maksie0 All men are born male, so how do you figure??
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Why aren't you following your own advice and keeping your opinion to yourself?
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@mariec7352 You spelled curious incorrectly
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@mariec7352 You merely made an incorrect, opinionated observation presuming my state of mind
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@mariec7352 How does you incorrectly presuming to conclude that I seem offended, serve as a correction of any kind or in any way? Answer: It does not Kick Rocks Fool
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@TheLegendOfRandy You driving analogy fails to discern that in your narrative, there's another party at fault for the accident. Regarding 99% of pregnancies-- All of those women are at fault for their own dilemmas
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@frijolespepepapa9464 Birth Defect, isn't a gender. Gender and biology aren't disconnected. If they were, there would be No such thing-- as a girl, trapped in a boys body, having an immutable male identity-- as the justification for hormone/testosterone treatments and surgery, if gender was fluid and untied to biology. The narrative is trying to rename personality traits, "Gender"-- and that's just Wrong
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@cati896 The final say on whether or not women are willing to risk themselves getting pregnant, when facilitating it-- is why they have no one to blame but themselves for their avoidable self-inflicted dilemmas. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to be more than that of a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification-- regardless of consequences?
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@mariec3733 There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women, illustrating that your narrative is a totally bogus faith-based belief with zero evidence to support your claim that trans women are women. Checkmate / You lost
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@mariec3733 Gender roles are constructed around the biological reality that there are differences between the sexes male and female, respectively. Your subjective trans clown identity doesn't alter your biology
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To ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where as a feminist you'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are women
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@Niko-nm7mj I like to use the Islamic traditions, for those who understand the nuance it eludes to-- re: women's rights, and gay rights-- when people insist that all cultures are Equal, Compatible, or Desirable with respect to Freedom, Liberty or the lack thereof-- as the case may be
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@mariec3733 Are you?
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@TheLegendOfRandy SO disingenuous of you... Bottom line, pregnancy is avoidable. Sex is how children are conceived. A woman knows this, and if she chooses to indulge in sex she chooses to take a risk that she can become pregnant. Simple as that. It's ALL Her. On a side note: Clearly you don't consider infidelity, of those in monogamous relationships in your analysis, or you're willfully ignoring it. Either way: Food for thought
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@rosie6 I prefer they get their tubes tied, if they're intent on acting like animals
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@mariec7352 Those who advocate for the termination of the innocent have no moral ground to stand on, from which to finger wag.
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@mariec7352 Those like you, who advocate in favor of terminating the innocent seem confused about morality, in general
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@mariec7352 I'll take that as you agreeing that I'm correct, about my assessment of your state of confusion regarding your preferred lack of morality, evident in your comments on the topic
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@mariec7352 How you choose to take it, couldn't possibly be less relevant. You've failed to make your case, justifying terminating the innocent You fail to discern the difference between avoiding an unwanted pregnancy vs avoiding sex-- continuously failing to realize that not all sex acts lead to a potential pregnancy. 🤤😵😵‍💫🥴🤕🙄
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@mariec7352 Your comment is not in any way-- a refutation, nor does it justify terminating the innocent. I already told you-- You should try being relevant for a change
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100% Correct
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Then, they should quit whining about having their own restrooms and going into inappropriate spaces designed for women-- no?
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@markusbaker1161 So, you're saying they aren't whining about using women's restrooms as though they should be allowed to? Ya, ok...
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@markusbaker1161 I haven't heard of any reports of women, who've altered their appearance assaulting men in men's rooms. Have you?
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@markusbaker1161 The News is full of articles
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, the news... Since they're verifiable, with a cursory search of trans attackers-- posting the articles seemed unnecessary. I don't understand why you're an advocate of 'Normalizing' psych disorders with affirmation-- suggesting it's normal. You wouldn't do that to someone who's schizophrenic insisting that they can fly, while standing on a roof top, or with an Anorexic, by suggesting that yes-- they should lose more weight. Knowing what you do now, re: the self-termination rates of these people, even after altering their appearance clearly-- their appearance isn't at the root of the problem.
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@krasmasov6852 So, you clearly don't believe them, when they say they believe they're men-- and are indicating that you don't think they're men either
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@jinhozara The narrative suggests that gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who says she's a boy, trapped in a girl's body-- is in fact a boy, and has an immutable male identity. smh Both can't be true, showing the narrative is incoherent. To the feminists who go along with their incoherent ideology-- Best of luck in the near dystopian future, where they'll then be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will say they're women too. And they don't even see it coming. I have a problem with them grooming kids
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@jinhozara I note they conflate science with science-fiction and pretend like they do-- that they're interchangeable
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@krasmasov6852 Well, perhaps the new 'woke' military will eliminate the excuse FOR you
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@krasmasov6852 The answer is EQUALITY. There are already women in the military, so why not? I thought you were all for equality... oh what never mind. You prefer the rules for thee and not for me approach
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@jinhozara I was referencing regarding being drafted. C'mon
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@jinhozara I understand the purpose of the draft
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@krasmasov6852 🙄
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@georgeaskeladd742 The point is: Men cannot become women, and women cannot become men. The narrative suggesting otherwise-- is incoherent nonsense.
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@krasmasov6852 Everything
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@krasmasov6852 I've already made my case. You've failed to refute it, and have indicated you lack the capacity to understand the answers or the willingness to make an affirmative case by answering my questions or refuting the facts. Comparing the terms 'trans-men' to 'men' indicates they're something else. That something else is Women, because there are only 2 selections to choose from. Having a plastic surgeon alter their appearance to be more-like that of a Klingon from Star Trek, doesn't actually make them a Klingon. Same is true w/ trans-surgery and treatments altering hormone levels. They're still humans and still the same sex/gender-- despite their grand efforts to alter their appearance. Believing it does make them Klingons or changes their sex/gender to that which they are not, and can never be-- indicates a massive dissociative disorder is deep-rooted
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Trans is the fringe-- Women aren't the opposite of trans, they're the standard which trans women aka men are trying to emulate-- making the cis distinction entirely irrelevant and redundant
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@markusbaker1161 Do you still mutilate yourself?
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@mariec3733 Well, their endorsement of the trans narrative is clear-- so make of that what you will
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@markusbaker1161 What's your reasoning for you dismissing the opposing medical expert professionals assessment and their reasoning?
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@markusbaker1161 I recognize that people have rights, and that different countries have different laws and rights. What are you on about?
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@markusbaker1161 if they are somehow different than human rights, then no I don't recognize them-- as you've failed to articulate what those additional rights might be. People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day-- I mean like 2014 and earlier. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules, it has nothing to do with gender.
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@mariec3733 You don't care about women's rights
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@mariec3733 The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual virtue in any of your unhinged whinging, and baseless claims. Mental illness isn't something new-- I get that
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@mariec3733 That is your explanation for how they built the pyramids and monoliths, and moved those heavy stones that we still can't figure out how to do-- today. You're clearly very confused about a host of topics
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@mariec3733 HILARIOUS! Happy, married, retired, stable family, happy, well-adjusted kids who are productive members of society and financially independent here. It must really irk you that I'm doing GREAT, but you do go on telling yourself creative stories that just aren't so, and convince yourself they are true, but you're not fooling anyone but yourself.
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@mariec3733 As if you had a clue about what's true. :face-green-smiling: Your capacity for logic, reason, truth and deciphering fact from fiction has not yet been demonstrated.
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@mariec3733 What you're doing is called projection. Get help. Do better in life
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@mariec3733 There are people. They are male and female. There are segments of each which present with birth defects and psych disorders, neither of which invalidate the binary of all mammalian species. Developmental sex disorders are not separate sexes/genders. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspect of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Too many, including you are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) and are incorrectly attempting to use the term as a synonym for/with gender
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@mariec3733 Then justify why those men should be granted access to women's private spaces. You can't do it
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@markusbaker1161 In my country those laws already exist for everyone
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@markusbaker1161 I recognize the laws that exist in my country-- I already told you that. Do you recognize women's rights?
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@markusbaker1161 The question is, do you recognize women's rights? They are after all, the same as the one's you listed
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@markusbaker1161 Stay TF out of women's private spaces. Your rights end where's someone else's begin
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@markusbaker1161 "Socialism has a history of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it".-- T. Sowell
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@markusbaker1161 Your lack of self-awareness is amazing. You say that, while advocating that men be granted access to women's spaces.
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@mariec3733 The only one you're fooling is yourself.
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“The truth has no defense against a fool determined to believe a lie.”
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What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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Dude is emotionally and intellectually stunted
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f'n gr00mers... Leave parenting to the parents. Raise your own
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@chrome445 With the self-delete numbers being so high-- it's a thoroughly ineffective treatment. The longer I live on this planet, the more I understand why roosters start their day screaming
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You could say the same thing about any other crime as well. If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.
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@nophhii Has connecting the intellectual dots always presented a problem for you, or are you just being a petulant child who's arguing for the sake or argument?
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@nophhii Gaslight harder. They seem to be eliminating themselves in record numbers, which shows how much they don't care for their own, and that's got nothing to do with me.
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@nophhii Cope Harder.
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It seems to me that they totally get it wrong on gender. Then, they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate males with females. Then, they conflate men and women. Then, they conflate fact with fiction.
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@mossy_oak Gender-- There are 2 male and female. They conflate personality with gender,gender with gender roles, male with female and men with women. There is only one kind of woman and they're all born female
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@hi1905 It doesn't matter to Alpha males.
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Test that theory in a Muslim country. Let us know how it goes
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@Erik-fn7kj And... Perhaps someone once told you that your opinion was relevant, and that you had a keen sense of intellect and a capacity for analysis, but it wasn't me. The sad part about trans people, is that their ideology shows how they're yearning to be something else, and someone else-- but never tells them that they're already unique in the world, and doesn't bother teaching them why that's important.
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@Erik-fn7kj If that were true, you would have no problem refuting my statements, observations, analysis and conclusions-- Yet-- You've still got nuthin
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@nerd5 No, it doesn't
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@nerd5 It illustrates her hypocrisy
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Well, woe to the feminists who go along with this ideology, as in their future they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men who will claim that they're women. And they don't even see it coming
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Sadly, being overly-emotionally reactive is a stereotype that is not without merit.
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@candycooopa No, like I said, being overly-emotionally reactive IS a typical female behavioral trait. It's common among feminine personality traits and temperament having nothing to do with socialization
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@Maksie0 OR instead-- choose to be correct
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@markusbaker1161 Nonsense. Science has not proven that males who identify as something other than males become something other than males. Cite the study. I dare you
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@markusbaker1161 The point is, they aren't called women because they aren't women.
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@markusbaker1161 No, the point is they're not women or they'd be called-- women, not trans-women
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@markusbaker1161 The point is, they're men not women. If they were recognized by science as women, they'd just be called women. Their subjective identity couldn't be less relevant when discussing biology.
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@markusbaker1161 Cite the source of the "science" you're referring to
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@markusbaker1161 You got nuthin... :text-green-game-over:
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@markusbaker1161 Nah... reality is on my side. The biology is already established, validating my statements. The psych science validates my statements as well. Dissociative disorders are clearly defined as involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self.
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@markusbaker1161 So that's a No-- You can't cite anything proving anything. Got it. :text-green-game-over:
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@markusbaker1161 That doesn't invalidate the fact that the biological science is already established, validating my statements. The psych science validates my statements as well. Dissociative disorders are clearly defined as involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self.
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@markusbaker1161 You've cited nothing whatsoever which disproves anything I've written. You're the one that asserts with ZERO evidence to prove it-- that calling men "transgender" is somehow relevant, or makes them something other than men. BTW-- No such evidence exists.
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are. Those people are very confused
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Considering that half the panel are misogynistic women who hated themselves so much that they altered their appearance to be like men-- that's not really a shocker is it?
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Where psychosis and ignorance collide, clarity is seldom found to reside. Women cannot become men and men cannot become women. Oh ya-- intersex is a birth defect, not another gender-- of which there are only 2. Quit conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender-- it's just incorrect.
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Only if precision matters
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Perhaps the Satanic bible is what is being referred to
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@ElanaVital83 That dude is an activist troll, who isn't even as deep as a baby spoon
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That dude is a trans activist agent provocateur. What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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He appears not to like himself too much either... So much so that he's attempting to reinvent himself into the polar opposite of what he actually is.
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@markusbaker1161 That's my response to some hairy dude in a dress screaming, "It's MA'AM"
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@markusbaker1161 Not even-- I think it's hilarious. 🤡
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@markusbaker1161 Then quit your whining. They have the same rights as any other men
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@markusbaker1161 What you're referring to as 'transgender' are still men or women, respectively. Same rights apply. Try to focus Your incorrect presumptions are a YOU problem. You're just complaining and arguing for sport. It doesn't matter if you're upset or not. You just want attention, and you seem to thrive on negative attention from stoking anti-social and counter-culture interactions, by playing the part of the fool. Congratulations! Thanks for the opportunity to expose you and the fallacy of your arguments for what they are
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@markusbaker1161 I reject your entire narrative and dismiss it as lunacy
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@markusbaker1161 I reject that nonsense. I don't care about some quacks approval or narrative to validate what I can see with my own eyes. Believe what you will. It doesn't matter
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@markusbaker1161 blah, blah, blah. I'm not so blind that I have difficulty deciphering the difference between males and females. You fail to persuade, why those men that you're referring to as transgender should be granted access to women's private spaces.
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@markusbaker1161 Nah... I recognize gender pretenders, when I see them
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@markusbaker1161 Of course you don't. I'm not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that I can promote make believe, or cater to feelings by pretending I don't recognize that they aren't that which they present themselves as. They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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@markusbaker1161 That you believe it matters is cringe.
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@markusbaker1161 Aww... You apparently think your opinion is noteworthy. More cringe :face-green-smiling::face-turquoise-covering-eyes:🤕:text-green-game-over:🤡
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@markusbaker1161 Not according to the comments here in the comment section-- it isn't. Yours is the cult minority opinion
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@markusbaker1161 Looks like I'm living rent-free in Your head, stalker. Zero evidence to support your claims to be found anywhere. Not here, not there, not anywhere. :face-turquoise-drinking-coffee::face-turquoise-covering-eyes::person-turqouise-waving::text-green-game-over:👎
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@markusbaker1161 No evidence to support your claims anywhere to be found, because you're wrong. No evidence of you refuting anything I've written, because I'm correct
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@darcymr353 It's already a human.
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@TheLegendOfRandy Ya, that doesn't justify terminating the innocent. Don't want to risk a pregnancy? Alright, then don't. If women offer themselves up to men for sex, they are the catalyst for their own avoidable dilemma. The intellectual gymnastics that you're going through to avoid recognizing the responsibly that women have for their own actions is stunning. Women know what causes pregnancy, and have no one to blame for their unwanted pregnancy but themselves, when they facilitate the one and only act which causes their avoidable dilemma I expect that people who aren't prepared to risk pregnancy and deal with the consequences avoid them, and for someone with some integrity to inform them that the world doesn't owe them a life, free from adversity. Women know that they are the ones who get pregnant, and can "choose" to risk it or not. The smart ones tend to wait until they're ready to have and raise their own-- to conceive. What do you think they know that the others, who have difficulty with their preventative birth control, don't?
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@TheLegendOfRandy C'mon... You 1st. You have questions pending. Don't be a coward and run away again
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@TheLegendOfRandy It appears you ran away, like a coward-- Again. Shocker You got nuthin
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@darcymr353 When a woman gets pregnant, she's pregnant with a new unique human life. DUH... You fail to justify terminating the life of the unborn in the womb.
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@Maksie0 It's intellectually stunted, and totally useless since ALL women are born female, ALL men are born male, and neither are a mere social construct, feeling, fetish nor costume
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@mariec3733 Therefore, those males/men have no reason to be granted access to women's private spaces. Do you get it now?
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@mariec3733 You said trans women are women. Looks like you're saying women are a social construct, and I wouldn't put it past you dear-- you haven't made any coherent case yet-- to support that statement or to explain the logic behind it.
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@kamala7101 1st prove that race isn't biological
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@markusbaker1161 Well that's excellent news. Racism is then now non-existent. Society can now abandon all forms of affirmative action based on race.
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@mariec3733 You can keep asking too. If you don't answer my questions, your expectation to have me provide answers to your questions is out of touch. Men are men regardless of their self-perceptions
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@mariec3733 Ask yourself the question, while you're busy avoiding answering my questions
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@markusbaker1161 That doesn't justify you believing in the hocus pocus nonsense you've been peddling, either
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@markusbaker1161 Why do you believe what's being peddled by mad scientists who claimed the c19 vaxx prevented transmission, and provided any immunity, that wearing masks prevented the transmission of air born viruses is fact?
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@Jhon Dalton I too, find it fascinating that no one has been able to make any sense out of any of it either. Pure madness
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@mariec3733 You're projecting again.
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@Jhon Dalton Feel free to lie to yourself, and cling to your ignorance. You could go to a surgeon and alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek if you wish-- and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon-- and if you think it does-- you're delusional.
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@Jhon Dalton Your expression of being something you're not-- make sense out of that idea granting access to those men to women's spaces. Ready? Go...
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@mariec3733 Observing your failure to justify allowing men into women's spaces shows that you have no respect for women's rights
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@Jhon Dalton Think deeper thoughts. It's also dressing rooms, locker rooms, sports teams, and prisons-- not just restrooms. It's unadulterated misogyny. Those are men, they will always be men. Their imaginations and subjective personality traits and temperament don't change the fact that those being referred to s 'trans women' aren't trans anything-- They're men
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@Jhon Dalton Personality traits, subjective identity and temperament don't change men into women. It isn't complicated. No one said that people can't express themselves as they see fit. Sorry but someone's choice to cosplay and engage in LARPing doesn't actually make them that in reality-- nor does it obligate all of society to play along, abandoning logic, reason, and objective reality that they can see with their own eyes--displacing women's rights in the process.
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@Jhon Dalton The thing that cross dressers, drag queens and trans women all have in common is-- they're all men. There is no justification for granting those men access to women's private spaces. YOU don't seem to get that
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@Jhon Dalton Well, you can neuter your male dog, put him in a dress, put bows in his hair, paint his wittle paw nails etc., and he's still a male dog. Who said we had to play along? fr-- The whole preferred pronouns insistence thing, granting those men access to women's Sports, Sports teams, Locker rooms, Restrooms, Showers, and Prisons.
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@Jhon Dalton You conflate social constructs with biology, when you say trans women are women. It's patently absurd and totally incorrect. Women aren't a social construct; trans however, IS. Those are men Your cult narrative is rejected.
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@Maksie0 Not even close to a she. That dude is unhinged
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@Maksie0 Cope and seethe harder. LOL
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@imaleoncruz One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. Men cannot become women-- * His If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@QueenQuinTV Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. *-- He
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@QueenQuinTV Men can NOT become women. How is that confusing to you? I refuse to misgender him, by calling him a her/she
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@cptncrsh2400 Your exact words were, "I appreciate that this conversation is happening but it’s so triggering I couldn’t make it through the third statement.. it’s so hard to hear how these conservative men view life". I didn't define the term at all, I merely repeated your statement back to you, and in your judgement, listening to conservative men was "triggering, and hard". What's your issue? The entire trans-activist ideology and narrative is anti-woman. Best of luck in your near dystopian future, where you'll be oppressed by men, who will now claim to be women too. Don't say nobody told you
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@killa4sho313 "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance". -- T. Sowell
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@Tattleta1e The concept of doing that in private eludes them, because their focus seems to be on the potential for exploiting a virtue signaling opportunity.
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@ronswansonsdog2833 I get it. Not all trans people suffer w/ gender dysphoria. Some are just dressing up to embrace their own cosplay kink
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@markusbaker1161 If they respected themselves, they would not need others to affirm their subjective identity over the reality that they aren't that which they present themselves as
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@markusbaker1161 If what you said were true, they would not need others to affirm their subjective identity over the reality that they aren't that which they present themselves as. I respect that which is respectable, but make no mistake respect is earned not demanded
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@markusbaker1161 I recognize them. I just recognize them as what they are, as opposed to how they wish they were recognized. Not a complicated equation
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, it is recognition. Facts don't care about your feelings.
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@markusbaker1161 Changing what you call something, doesn't change the thing into something else. Only the name changes
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@markusbaker1161 Your nonsense
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@markusbaker1161 How are they-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? Why should those men who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria be granted access to women's private spaces? You got nuthin Blossom Go play the part of the fool w/ someone else
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James Brown look-alike contestant, NO doubt
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@Maksie0 That's still wrong. There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female. Get a clue
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Well, ya-- They are women
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@ferukishia4233 Too bad nobody asked if the pro-trans, pro-feminism agenda intended to prove that the gender pay gap is a myth, by maintaining the ideology's insistence that gender is separate from biology and fluid.
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@nathanmccoy9188 Too bad nobody asked if the pro-trans agenda intended to prove that the gender pay gap is a myth, by maintaining the ideology's insistence that gender is separate from biology and fluid. Make no mistake, I do understand it. You're trying to change definitions and fail to make the distinction between personality traits and temperament-- and call them gender. That's incorrect. No, it doesn't make you liars, but if you believe that crap it makes you delusional. The lie you promote is that men can become women and women can become men. Sorry that condition is permanent during the human life span, and males cannot become females and females cannot become males-- regardless of the severity of transformative surgeries and elaborate costumes, and makeup.
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@Maksie0 You should get your brain checked
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@mariec3733 They don't? Then, quit your sniveling about Roe v Wade
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@mariec3733 Roe v Wade being overturned doesn't affect that. Maybe YOU should work on curing your own ignorance
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@mariec3733 That's the question women should ask themselves, when choosing to engage in the one and only activity which actually causes their unwanted pregnancy; but Roe v Wade doesn't do what you wrote
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@mariec3733 How does it do that? It doesn't force women to risk unwanted pregnancies AT ALL.
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@mariec7352 How does it deliberately put women's lives and safety at risk? You seem ignorant about what the ruling does
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@mariec7352 All the overturning of Roe v Wade does is leave it to the states to decide. It bans nothing. Your unhinged rambling isn't supported by facts. What evidence are you relying on which supports the idea that if abortion were illegal, all women would resort to self done extremes?
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@mariec7352 So I thought you were in favor of state run healthcare?? If they ban it in the state--THAT is democracy at work. What's the problem??? ROFLMFAO... You need me to explain that Cause and Effect to You? 🤣🤣🤡
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@mariec7352 Put away your T R I G G E R E D-- ego. You brought up Cause and Effect, asking if I needed it explained to me, and then you make an argument that makes you look ridiculous, by illustrating a complete lack of understanding about cause and effect. 🤡 Priceless...You Got pwned
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@mariec7352 And you want to crow about Cause and Effect? ROFLMFAO You're Dismissed
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@mariec7352 Look, bottom line-- You've failed to justify terminating the lives of the innocent in the womb
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@mariec7352 Your cognitive dissonance is noted. The concept that the body autonomy of the fetus, which the mother facilitates to be growing in her womb, isn't disposable-- apparently eludes your cognitive dissonance. Try to focus
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@mariec7352 Total Nonsense. Her autonomy was fully in tact when she decided to risk pregnancy. Once she conceived the baby's body autonomy comes into play
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@Maksie0 Yes, it is and yes they are. You're conflating gender and gender roles again
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@franciscagaisie778 Correct. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and refers also to the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. They tend to conflate gender and gender roles, then they conflate the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender, as though they're synonymous-- and they are not.
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@conor.3875 Those men will always be men, regardless of how they perceive themselves
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@conor.3875 The Dunning-Krueger effect seems to have a grasp on you
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@franciscagaisie778 It amounts to nothing more than an extreme form of cosplay and LARPing
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Why should terminating the lives of the innocent in the womb be legal-- barring the life of the mother being in imminent peril? If you don't want kids, wish to avoid kids ending up in the foster care system, etc... avoid pregnancy. That's pretty simple. Millions of women successfully utilize preventative birth control-- daily, in the name of family planning and body autonomy. What do you figure they know that eludes those who don't?
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@mariec7352 You didn't answer the question. Millions of women successfully utilize preventative birth control-- daily, in the name of family planning and body autonomy. What do you figure they know that eludes those who don't?
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@mariec3733 When they don't work and a pregnancy occurs-- it was a known risk. You still haven't justified terminating the life of the child. Waiting?
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@mariec3733 And what of the body autonomy, of the life that the mother created-- the moment she got herself pregnant?
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@mariec3733 Millions of women enjoy sex and don't have problems with preventative birth control working perfectly fine. Deal with it The one's who have problems, again and again... Clearly haven't figured it out, and talking about the fail rate doesn't explain those abortion case numbers away. The fact that baby's autonomy begins when the woman gets pregnant-- has exposed your faux bodily autonomy argument rather shallow and empty.
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@mariec7352 So-- what of the body autonomy, of the life that the mother created-- the moment she got herself pregnant? Everywhere that they choose to risk their body autonomy, by engaging in the act which causes their dilemma
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@mariec3733 Don't pretend that you aren't aware that I didn't mean getting themselves pregnant-- "by themselves", or that I was addressing cases of rape. Sheesh...🙄 They are the ones risking getting their body's pregnant, when they choose to engage in the one and only act which actually causes the totally avoidable unwanted pregnancy in the 1st place. You said, not all lives are valuable since they're not making life "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of". Therefore, you believe that not all women's lives are valuable. That indicates that you believe not all women would or should then necessarily be entitled to bodily autonomy considerations, since they're not making their own baby's lives (You know-- the ones they facilitated when they chose to risk pregnancy, by choosing to risk engaging in the one and only act which actually causes their unwanted pregnancies and dilemmas) "just as valuable to be supported, cared for, happy and taken care of"???
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@mariec3733 T R I G G E R E D... 🤣
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@mariec3733 I am not in need of assistance, and am living quite comfortably and am happily retired. You on the other hand, still live in your mom's basement and are a lonely attention seeking troll
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@mariec3733 Agent provocateur troll
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Happy Holidays and remember-- Just because you put on a Santa costume-- it doesn't actually make you Santa, even if you do fool some people
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@deaf_bear The title said it was about conservative women too. Fyi-- There's nothing phobic about recognizing that someone is not that which they claim... It just makes one observant.
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@becky14 Phobia= an irrational fear. There's no fear in recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim to be. Like I said, it just makes me observant
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@becky14 I told you a phobia is an irrational fear. You appear to be having difficulty with that definition. I recommend YOU look it up. Recognizing that someone is not that which they claim to be isn't a matter of fear or prejudice-- it's a matter of recognizing objective reality, making one observant. That is all
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@becky14 Being observant and recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim to be isn't in and of itself-- any of those things. Try again??
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@becky14 Also Becky, they are not trans anything. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance and their natural chemistry, as they are after. Still male or female, respectively-- as they started out as from birth
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@becky14 There are people, and they are male or female. They both have segments which present w/ birth defects and others with various psych disorders, some w/ both. They aren't trans ANYTHING. They're the same sex/gender prior to surgery altering their appearance and chemistry, as they are after. All they're doing is altering their appearance. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent
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@becky14 Many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), with gender
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@becky14 You got it wrong again... I said, they aren't trans anything, despite their self-perceived identity's. I believe there are people, and they are male or female and that segments of both have physical birth defects and some have various psych issues and some have both-- Still male or female though.
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@becky14 You appear to have a massive reading comprehension deficit at play. I, unfortunately-- can't fix that for you. Perhaps, try re-reading the explanations already provided, only s l o w e r this time, so you don't miss it again.
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The entire ideology is incoherent
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@bigbaraman555 Just observant of objective reality. Trans women are men with issues, pretending that they're women without issues
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They NEVER stood for inclusion and acceptance for all
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Should do doctors pro and con re: the efficacy and the ethics of affirmation-based treatment protocols, considering the self-delete rates and de-transitioner's regrets
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Racist
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@jestes7 That's what they do. Biden said if you don't vote for him, you ain't black. They're racists
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@Maksie0 Because all women are born female, all men are born male, and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference or costume-- making the use of cis/trans totally irrelevant and useless
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@snodenrobot768 ZERO evidence to support your claim. No, it's not. The 'because you said so' standard has been issued exactly zero credibility, so you'd really need to do better-- if it were at all possible. Not holding my breath
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@wren_1224 Nonsense... It seems to me that the solution to unwanted pregnancy rests with women making smarter choices.
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@wren_1224 Abortion isn’t bodily autonomy, but birth control is.
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@Maksie0 You, apparently still haven't yet figured out that your term is rejected by the majority, as total nonsense
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Only when speaking for yourself -- and then your choices are limited to I, Me, My-- unless you're talking about yourself in the 3rd person, which is pretty weird. You should get a refund from your English grammar teachers. You don't get to choose the one's that others use, when speaking about you to someone else. 1st person pronouns are grouped into 5 categories: Subject pronouns 1st person "I", Object pronouns 1st person "Me", possessive adjectives 1st person "My", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Mine", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Myself" 2nd person: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourself" 3rd person (Male): Subject pronouns 3rd person "He", Object pronouns 3rd person "Him", possessive adjectives 3rd person "His", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "His", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Himself" 3rd person (Female): Subject pronouns 3rd person "She", Object pronouns 3rd person "Her", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Her", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Hers", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Herself" 3rd Thing: Subject pronouns 3rd thing "It", Object pronouns 3rd thing "It", possessive adjectives 3rd thing "Its", Possessive pronouns 3rd thing "Not Used", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd thing "Itself" 1st person plural: Subject pronouns "We", Object pronouns 1st person "Us", possessive adjectives 1st person "Our", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Ours", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Ourselves" 2nd person plural: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourselves" 3rd person and (thing) plural: Subject pronouns "They", Object pronouns "Them", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Their", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Theirs", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Themselves". Now stop embarrassing yourself.
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@mshoney9301 Now you're conflating gender with gender roles, males with females, females with males, and personality traits and temperament with gender as if they're synonymous-- and they are not
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Correlation is not causation
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@Maksie0 What is a woman?
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@markusbaker1161 A social construct. LOL
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@markusbaker1161 Women are not a social construct dear.
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The prefix cis is redundant at best and thoroughly useless. It's a virtueless virtue signal attempt
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Cut to the chase. Why, according to you-- should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim that they're women.
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@markusbaker1161 I didn't quote them. I did ask question though. Care to take a shot at answering it? 🦗🦗🦗
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@markusbaker1161 Weak... You fail at life
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@markusbaker1161 l8r gayter
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@markusbaker1161 To see if anyone can explain the rational for suggesting men should be granted access to women's spaces, because of their subjective self-proclaimed identity, contrary to reality-- and make it make sense
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Blossom is a m0r0n. If some dude who presents as a woman, isn't on hormones, or doesn't have any surgical procedures-they're EXACTLY like those who do- Still men, and Exactly like a drag queen/cross-dresser-- Still men, and their feelings don't alter reality in the slightest
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Sheep need leaders. Independent people utilize elected representatives in the USA
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@OHOHOHOOHOHOOOHOOHOHO The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. If one's identity is predicted on the notion that all of society must recognize you as you perceive yourself, contrary to objective reality-- Then that identity isn't valid. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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Losah Tattletales Bullseye 🎯
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That dude is still a dude, regardless of altering his appearance and wardrobe
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@silpsizzup1299 Not me. Nonetheless-- they're merely a caricature of what they wish they were, and can NEVER be -- women. The truth matters
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@markusbaker1161 You seem vested in your insistence that they are what they say they are because of feelings, regardless of reality. Cognitive Dissonance or a dissociative, delusional state... either way-- Not my problem.Your opinions couldn't be less relevant or useless. Run along
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You sure? Compared to what(?), is what your conclusion doesn't take into consideration
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@derpchaos8294 That's probably best. Your comment didn't seem too well thought out
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@Maksie0 Do you? Your anti-social interpersonal cries for negative attention, are not earning you any acceptance or compassion. They're just you, making a spectacle of yourself, causing the divide your community alleges they wish to bridge. Congratulations, you're only fooling yourself
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@Maksie0 Well, she doesn't require your approval for feeling offended, and she certainly doesn't have to qualify it to you. Who do you think you are?
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@markusbaker1161 Nope. My question may be considered rhetorical and it makes the point nonetheless
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@markusbaker1161 Just stating some known, and easily verifiable facts that anyone who can read can look up and read for themselves.
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@markusbaker1161 Oh, okay... You know males and females aren't the same thing, and that they aren't interchangeable and that fact is undeniable? IF gender is a mere social construct, as you suggest-- and disconnected from biology (I disagree), then transgender is a mere social construct, which in NO WAY justifies those men violating women's private spaces such as dressing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, sports teams or prisons, if it has NOTHING to do with biology. Make it make sense
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@markusbaker1161 IF gender is a mere social construct, as you suggest-- and disconnected from biology (I disagree), then transgender is a mere social construct, which in NO WAY justifies granting access to those men into women's private spaces such as dressing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, sports teams or prisons, if it has NOTHING to do with biology. Make it make sense. You got anything? It seems like an incoherent bit of madness for those who advocate such a thing
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@markusbaker1161 Run away like a coward
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@markusbaker1161 It was not meant to be taken literally. You, choosing not to engage with intellectual integrity, and instead aim to agitate and draw as many inane conclusions as possible, to honest and legitimate questions is not productive to clarifying how your logic stands up to scrutiny, when challenged. No worries. I preferred you were operating with honesty and integrity, but as the Rolling Stones said-- you can't always get what you want.
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@markusbaker1161 The women who are being called cis by trans women against their will and having their privacy encroached on against their will believe their considerations matter too, might wonder why they don't get that same consideration from those men who you call trans women, and wonder how that's not the height of misogyny.
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@markusbaker1161 You seem to have no problem responding,giving me the opportunity to highlight your idiocy
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@markusbaker1161 When ask the same questions but expect a different answer every time isn't too bright on your part. shocker
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Looks like, you don't have to
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@Ipernova They're not trying to win a debate. They're trying to shut down debates by causing chaos and by filling the roles of aggitators
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They inappropriately conflate personality traits and temperament with gender. Then, they conflate gender with gender roles. Then, they conflate gender with s3xu@l preference. Then, they conflate men with women, males with females, fact with fiction and science with science-fiction and pseudo-science.
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A lot of them have been deleted by cowardly censors and snowflakes
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Nope. You can't change your sex.
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Where psychosis and ignorance collide, clarity is seldom found. Women cannot become men and vice versa
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Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable... That's why sovereign nations have borders
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@Maksie0 You need some new material
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The prerequisite to becoming a woman is-- being born female, and trans-women aren't that. They're men, and are in no way entitled to access to women's private spaces.
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@markusbaker1161 Not a global law. You seem to have a vested interest in suggesting that men, when presenting as women-- should be granted access to women's spaces and that women should be okay with that.
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@markusbaker1161 You indicted that the law might change if I cry harder, as though it is a matter of law everywhere, and that the failure to affirm someone's subjective identity is illegal-- and It isn't. We can agree to disagree. The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. That's insane One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@markusbaker1161 It's okay-- Blossom. You lost the debate. Move on
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, You lost. Get to a safe space and consult your comfort pet
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@markusbaker1161 Blossom, you lost when you stood with an ideological narrative which is predicated upon the notion that one's subjective identity, obligates the rest of society around the world to deny objective reality, and affirm that they perceive you as you perceive yourself, in stark contrast to objective reality by suggesting that men should be granted access to women's private spaces-- It's asinine.
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@markusbaker1161 And you have failed to do so. The narrative you stand in solidarity with, says that trans-women are women. It's asinine
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@markusbaker1161 The data validates my analysis and exposes the incoherence of your interpretation of the data
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@markusbaker1161 After you provide evidence to support the asinine claim that trans-women aka men are women.
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@markusbaker1161 And you believe calling something by a different name transforms that thing? HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
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@markusbaker1161 Not even close. It's so blatantly obvious, that if you can't see it, you never will. men cannot and do not become women, just because you change their label, and call them something else
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@markusbaker1161 Gaslight harder! There's no phobia in discerning facts from fiction.
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@markusbaker1161 Your ignorance of the existence or slamming your eyes shut to the news stories covering the objections of women about their sports teams, locker rooms, restrooms and prisons by trans-women-- doesn't invalidate them.
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Assigning the innocent the death penalty, in the name of convenience, seems sociopathic to me.
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@Maksie0 The consequences of their own actions doesn't justify punishing the innocent, in the name of convenience.
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@Maksie0 The choice to have sex and risk a pregnancy, IS CONSENT to risking the avoidable/getting themselves pregnant-- by their own actions/choice.
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@Maksie0 Not even close dear. That dude is unhinged from reality
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@Diamondsparkle788 Still a dude w/severe issues
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@Diamondsparkle788 He appears to have a difficult time accepting reality vs his imagination. I'm more of a golden brown, when I get out in the sun
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They can... however; It doesn't make it true
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They call men toxic just cuz they like to be masculine but when those men call out their toxic female empowerment, then the females label the men bigots and sexists. Just sayin
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@Maksie0 Yours seems to revolve around being a troll and making a spectacle of yourself, establishing nothing and refuting even less
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Half the panel are women, and if men can be women too-- what's the problem?
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@4ngelpisscat Whoa to the feminists who go along with this incoherent ideology's narrative as in the near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will say they're women.
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All they did was alter their appearance. They didn't transition into another sex
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I had a paranoid schizophrenic tell me that aliens are in direct contact with him and the other true heroes on the planet. Also that they communicate through fruit. I just nodded. Affirmation treatment protocols suggest that their delusion should've been affirmed as valid. Make it make sense
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@mariec3733 Don't forget to hold your breath
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@mariec3733 I'm not. You've already established that you have no foundation from which to justify your argument
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@mariec7352 If a mother's life is in imminent peril and nothing is done, she and the fetus/baby perish-- as it cannot survive at the 20 week +/- marker, outside of the mother-- for the VAST majority-- when those decisions typically required to be made, and so seems to be in a not dissimilar category as suffering a miscarriage, as it goes to the fate of the unborn's termination. How is it not? Why do you appear to have a problem with women being able to save their lives? Looks like it Sucks to be you. Once again, you didn't comprehend a single response given. If you don't care about a woman's culpability in preventing her own unwanted pregnancy, why and how does, as you've done continually-- pointing to a man's contribution matter? It's not like she could get pregnant, if she didn't facilitate and enable her own risk factors and ensuing dilemma. What do you think she needs to figure out, that millions of other women seem to have figured out-- related to avoiding their unwanted pregnancy's? Why does personal accountability and responsibility appear to trigger a response from you that looks like desperation, as you try to reassign blame and avoid a woman's personal accountability at any cost, in her role of facilitating her unwanted pregnancy? You've failed to explain your thoughts adequately. How do you continually fail to account for those facts and factor them into your analysis and conclusions?
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@mariec7352 Look, women that want to avoid an unwanted pregnancy, have the obligation to avoid it. Those women also have the means to do so, and appear to be without excuse. Men aren't to blame, if women fail to avoid the avoidable. Those women failed themselves. How have they not? You appear very confused about a lot of basic stuff. Pregnancy requires males and females to manifest. It isn't an 'either' 'or' scenario, and males cannot accomplish pregnancy by themselves. How do you not know this? You're ridiculous. I advocate against innocent people's lives being terminated, and for women being responsible-- especially regarding risking their body's w/ an unwanted pregnancy. I believe that adults should be responsible for themselves, and observe that millions are-- begging the questions, what is it that the others haven't figured out?
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They're more like trans-human than trans-male or trans-female
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@hcos8139 NEWSFLASH: People that are born female grow up and become women, not men.
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BUT-- not unexpected from delusional people
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They're not Trans ANYTHING. They're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after-- which means they're still men. Dude has some serious psych issues
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There used to be asylums for people who were so far detached from reality, and living in their permanent state of delusion. The trans-ideology is incoherent
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@marsdavidson8307 Re; sex and genders-- the 'B' in LGBT seem to have no problem establishing that there are 2. What's the excuse for your confusion??
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@marsdavidson8307 If one's sexuality doesn't determine anything, the trans-ideology has nothing to complain about. You've continually run away, failing to address much less refute anything I've pointed out, or to answer questions with any substantive responses. I don't expect that to change
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@marsdavidson8307 Seems like others can see my replies just fine, where you're alleging I haven't responded. No worries. Your comments seem to have the common attribute of being substance free
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@saerunofarc How about instead, you stop saying ridiculous nonsense and pretending that it has merit. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female... That's it, making the use of cis/trans ridiculously useless nonsense
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@pineapple2.041 Not into another sex it does not. Try to keep it real
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Yes... They're gender pretenders. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do
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@empresscrafts689 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. You're inappropriately and incorrectly conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@Maksie0 Weird, why do you feel they owe you an explanation?
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Quit conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (neither is gender exclusive -- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), as though they're synonymous with gender. They are not
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@markusbaker1161 How so?
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@markusbaker1161 It looks like you've never read any study, confirming the facts that the variability of personality traits and temperament (neither of which are gender exclusive -- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and you operate as though they're synonymous with gender, when They are not. How are they-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? Quit cowering away from answering And I also asked, Why should those men who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria be granted access to women's private spaces? and you ran away from answering that too You got nuthin Blossom
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@markusbaker1161 You got no integrity Blossom. Whinge away
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@markusbaker1161 Just know that in the future, when you insist on your preferred pronouns idiocy, the response will be "I don't care", and it'll be delivered with a smile. I've already exposed the idiocy of your narrative's claims that trans women are women to be ridiculous I know you haven't answered with integrity or honesty, and I don't presume that you will-- just like in the video. Kick Rocks Blossom
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@markusbaker1161 Your willingness to prioritize trans issues over women is noted. Dudes in a dress-- by any other name, are dudes in a dress; they aren't trans anything
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@mariec3733 You say that, as though you have any credibility. That's wrong
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@conor.3875 Nope. Your rights end where another's begin.
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@conor.3875 Justify men being granted access into women's private spaces-- infringing on their privacy rights. Ready.... Go
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@conor.3875 I haven't seen you or anyone else make a coherent case why women's privacy rights should be restricted because some dude in a dress says they're a woman. Make it make sense. I dare you
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@conor.3875 Because they're men
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@conor.3875 As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female, and those men that you refer to as trans women-- weren't. A woman is an an adult, human, female. Cope Harder I reject your cult terminology. People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and earlier. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules, it has nothing to do with gender. Now you know
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@vitomir0 The 'Because you said so' standard has been issued exactly ZERO credibility-- so you're going to have to do better in order to be persuasive.
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Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Gender and Personality-- They haven't learned the difference. There's only one kind of woman, and they are all born females, so... using the cis prefix is totally redundant and unnecessary. The entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh There are males and females. That's it! Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct; She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals specifically humans. Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1. The body and brain develop & grow together -> One simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2. Hating a part of their body so much that they opt to cut it off, despite it functioning properly-- is a mental illness.
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There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female making the use of cis/trans ridiculous. Cis/trans are terms used by radical activists to pretend that there's merit to their incoherent claims
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@queenmary2452 Yet, they aren't offing themselves, but instead are offering up their nihilistic view of the world instead. The fact is, terminating the innocent is not justifiable, and you still have no argument to the contrary
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@celestejacobs7386 Those in the womb, whom you advocate terminating. Marie
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@ケノービ Depending on the gestation stage, that isn't necessarily correct. It's proven baby's respond to music while in the womb, and that they readjust their position presumably to get more comfortable.
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Yes, Psych issues exist and they don't alter objective reality
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Um, chromosomes of your DNA determine your entire physiology, including what's between your legs
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Do you feel like your understanding of the science is correct? There you have it
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@OptimisticCynic45 Do you feel your comprehension of the facts is sufficient? There you have it. Science, in and of itself is merely a method of study. Your feelings about a fact are another matter all together. Trans people, for ex. tend to get triggered-- when they realize you aren't buying into their incoherent narrative, because you recognize that they are in fact the same exact gender/sex they were prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do.
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@OptimisticCynic45 I think it’s funny people need surgery to “be who they are”.
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@markusbaker1161 What's respectable about presenting yourself as something you're not?
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@markusbaker1161 Until someone earns respect, none is issued. Just existing doesn't do it
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@markusbaker1161 Correct, just existing doesn't illicit respect. Respect is a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements.
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@markusbaker1161 Giving birth is the achievement of the woman who-- having the ability to foster new life and give birth-- illustrating a female quality. I don't conflate consideration of or care for someone/something with respect. You can if you want to
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@markusbaker1161 And?? Not ANY trans women can give birth. I don't hate men, and those who you're referring to as transgender women, are men. Gender and sex aren't disconnected. Gender is NOT a social construct. You can stomp your feet about it all you want and it changes nothing. Gender roles are the social constructs and they're well-established, which is why the counter-culture trans-narrative is itself the real construct and you seem unable to process that distinction. Your inability to process the truth of it, doesn't invalidate the truth. We're not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe, or cater to feelings. NO! Just... No They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits. Cry about it,and argue about it-- if you must. It matters not
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@markusbaker1161 I reject your entire narrative as lunacy
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@thankyouforbeingafriend9632 It's not society's role to accommodate you, as though you're the center of the universe. It's for you to integrate into society. Cope Harder
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@Maksie0 That's the sound of men and women everywhere rejecting your ideology. You better get used to it.
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Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. No?
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@markusbaker1161 How so?
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@markusbaker1161 Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad-- sir
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@markusbaker1161 Take it as you wish. It's correct, nonetheless. Respect is earned, and is reserved for that which is actually respectable.
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@markusbaker1161 The thing is, your opinions, arguments and conclusions are devoid of integrity, and don't stand up to scrutiny. Your acceptance isn't required, and I reject your arguments
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To ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where as a feminist you'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are women while they add to your competition in the workplace, take over women's sports, locker rooms and showers, as well as in prisons.
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@ameliamegow7068 Why are you in favor of that outcome? Looks like self-loathing from here
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Could that indicate that because black lives don't matter to blacks, evidenced by abortion being the #1 killer of the black population in the USA??
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Re: temperament-- women tend to be more agreeable than men, and these men LARPing as women are disagreeable twits
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They're activist agent provocateurs
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@Maksie0 Who cares!! There is no science anywhere that shows men can become women and until that happens, your narratives are baseless
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@anicon5892 There are only males and females. Trans women are Men with issues, pretending that they're women without issues-- Still Men.
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Because that doesn't address the root issue. It does nothing about women's locker rooms, showers, dressing rooms, sports, sport teams, scholarships, women's prisons or women's rights. Woe, to the feminists who buy into this ideological narrative, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by men, who will claim to be women-- and they don't even see it coming
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@Maksie0 Men cannot become women. Are you with me so far?
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@markusbaker1161 Translation = Male in a costume-- not any kind of woman by any measure. The ONLY women are biological women. They're LARPing or engaging in cosplay at BEST
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@markusbaker1161 Gender dysphoria is a psych disorder, according to the DSM5. Those who are suffering from it are still not the sex which they identify or present as. Those who don't suffer from it are just men in women's clothes. They're not some new form of woman What's your point?
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@markusbaker1161 I didn't use that terminology. It's a mental disorder. Feel free to spar with yourself over terminology. The point is, they are not that which they present themselves to be. They're men disguised as women, and their disguises, as elaborate as they can get-- don't invalidate the fact that they're men, and it certainly doesn't make them women. Wrestle with the reality all you wish-- it changes nothing
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@markusbaker1161 No, being correct means I'm correct. They're men is a dress-- Not women. It's just as simple as that. Their claimed identities of being women, don't make them women. Those who identify as transgender are still men in cosplay, they're not any kind of woman. Your suggestion otherwise doesn't invalidate reality. They're still men, and suggesting otherwise is what's absurd. They are not women, and shouldn't be infiltrating women's spaces like restrooms, sports teams, locker rooms or in prisons, because they're Men
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@markusbaker1161 You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and have not justified allowing men to infiltrate women's private places, because of their subjective identity claims. Why do you hate and disrespect women?
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@markusbaker1161 Why would you advocate that men should be able to infiltrate the private spaces of women, like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? How is that demonstrating any respect for women??
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@markusbaker1161 When you acknowledged that trans is denoting or relating to a person whose gender identity does not correspond with the sex registered for them at birth, which shows you agree that they're men not women-- Then, you continue to suggest that it's somehow trans-phobia to recognize that they are not that which they present themselves but suggest the trans prefix somehow validates them going into women's spaces
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not sure why you think, pointing out the inconsistency within your narratives is somehow evidence of me being upset. It looks again, like you're trying to be edgy, provocative, and argue for argument's sake. If you want to call me trans-phobic-- I really couldn't care less. There's no there-- there. You can rename men 'trans', and it changes nothing but the name. It doesn't change them or make them women or illustrate that they're trans anything. If your subjective identity is predicated on the notion that society needs to ignore objective reality, then your identity is not valid. Nonetheless, my observations regarding your comments are that you have not illustrated any respect for women and their private spaces by advocating in favor of men being allowed to infiltrate their spaces. Why, according to you-- should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim that they're women.
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@markusbaker1161 The activist narrative that trans-women are women. I look forward to not seeing further comments from you directed at me then. Question to the peanut gallery in general... Why should men (regardless of you renaming them Trans-women-- they're still men) be granted access to women's private spaces, based on their subjective identity claims, which aren't validated by objective reality?? 🙄 Answer: They shouldn't. It's totally unjustifiable
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@markusbaker1161 The idea that men should be allowed access to women's spaces because of their feelings and/or unverifiable claims of a subjective identity-- is unjustified.
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It's not that complicated. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect, Mental disorders... That's it.
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Their ideology is incoherent. If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct-- which seems to be a fundamental axiom that drives the ideology, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? In other words: If a girl, trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity (supposedly the reason for transitioning), How can gender be fluid and separate from biology? Answer: It can't
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@gothicgolem2947 Womanhood isn't a costume one can put on. You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, prescribe hormones, etc., and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon, and if you think it does-- You're Delusional. You can neuter your dog and make him wear a dress, and it does not make him a female dog. Just sayin... It's XX, XY, Birth defect, Mental disorder. That's it! Take your pick
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Get Real... Consent to sex is consent to the risk of a pregnancy.
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@mariec7352 Prove it 🦗🦗🦗
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@mariec7352 Not my problem. The burden of proof is on you. The risk of pregnancy, when choosing to have sex is inevitable, when talking about fertile adults.
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@mariec7352 The car analogy is ridiculous. The analogy should recognize that she-- wrecking her own car, by driving into a wall isn't the way to remain accident free
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@mariec7352 No, not my problem. I don't have any confusion about family planning, or how to avoid unwanted pregnancies. Sad that you do. Females are allowed to have sex, and millions of them don't have a problem using birth control effectively. Too bad you can't figure out what they have, that keeps them from the avoidable unwanted pregnancy.
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@mariec7352 You seem triggered and to be seeking attention. You fail to persuade
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@mariec7352 That's wrong, evidenced by the millions of women who successfully utilize a wide variety of preventative birth control methods-- Daily. They're obligated to avoid pregnancy, if 'They' determine that a pregnancy is unwanted-- as a responsibility to themselves; Not because someone pointed out that it's avoidable and they have all the power to avoid them. How is this a controversy? (Rhetorical) I know you're just trolling for sport
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@mariec3733 I understand that the people who use them without issue seem to have figured out something that those who suffer more than one failure keep missing. There's no cure for stoopid
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@mariec3733 That's wrong.
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@mariec3733 Get real, women forget to take their pills on schedule, etc...
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@mariec3733 You've eliminated the woman's accountability for her condition from your analysis. How convenient. Your failure to and refusal to recognize that the baby's autonomy begins when a woman gets pregnant-- is interesting, as you've been prattling on about bodily autonomy. What's up with that?
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@mariec7352 blah, blah, blah. The cause and effect of their actions causing their pregnancy isn't punishment assigned by me-- it's a self-inflicted consequence of their own doing.
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@mariec7352 And what of the body autonomy, of the life that the mother created-- the moment she got herself pregnant?
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The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual 'Virtue' in any of your unhinged whinging. That's why no one takes you seriously
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I have NO problem realizing that there are people who have identity issues. I wish them well in their endeavors to deal with those issues; however-- recognizing that they are not that which they present themselves as, that just makes me observant-- Not hateful I haven't been able to make sense of those who advocate affirmation care as a default protocol. The sad fact about the people who suffer with gender dysphoria, and those who inappropriately put themselves under the same umbrella-- who do not suffer with it, yet cosplay as though they do, have other underlying traumatic issues in play-- in addition and the su***de (both prior to and post surgery) is so much higher than the norm, and post surgery-- the numbers I've seen are astronomically high as well, showing unremarkable movement-- SO-- that being said, I just don't see how it's possible to see those rates and believe it's effective. Can you make it make sense? I can't
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@markusbaker1161 Agree, but the numbers are SOOOO much higher than the expected rate, in every study I've seen-- that there's something going on that makes me question the efficacy of the affirmation treatment protocols. Do you think that's an unreasonable question worth pursuing? It sheds a MASSIVE spot light on the treatment being horrible. How can those numbers possibly be justified by those prescribing treatment based on the patient's feeling, rather than (considering the other factors) that getting to the root of their dysphoria is not showing acceptable numbers to get anywhere near close to being concrete, but the treatment course, in the extreme is permanent. It just isn't justifiable from my point of view. btw-- I much prefer to have this sort of interaction. It's appreciated
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@DrTwas Neither. I was pointing out the cognitive dissonance and intellectually vacancy of yours and others who buy into this incoherent narrative-- which is inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament (neither of which is gender exclusive hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender.
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@everydayvacaytaj And, they are "allowed" to. What's your point?
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@indeliblemakes5359 B I N G O
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@cookierad3r Evidence to support that?
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@cookierad3r No need to be snarky, but the 'because you said so' standard has been issued zero credibility, so do you have any evidence to support your claim is all I was asking for? Either way, it's clear that suicidal people aren't exactly operating with a balanced perspective
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@octoniumvideos Um... dead people don't report they committed suicide because dead people can't report on anything, because they're dead.
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@octoniumvideos Women attempt suicide, more frequently than men. Men are more lethal re: their means of attempt, and succeed more often than women. ;)
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@maxxard7992 *He is unhinged from reality and isn't any kind of 'she'
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Actually it is Binary. What's the other sex beside male and female? You clearly don't understand the science. It's XX, XY, Birth defect causing physical and mental anomalies-- That's it Intersex is not another gender it's a birth defect. The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule-- they prove the rule by being the exceptions
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Regardless of the facts, an irrational thought process lacks the capacity to come to intelligent conclusions
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@Maksie0 STOP the nonsense. ALL men are born male, and those women weren't
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@emilys8072 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females. Those dudes weren't and cannot ever be women
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@mariec7352 There is no such basic rite for anyone to terminate the lives of the innocent, as you advocate.
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B I N G O! We have a Winner
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@nathália lyssa That wasn't a very articulate answer
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Serious question: If trans women are 'women', and trans-men are 'men'-- it's seems to indicate that there are no men or women-- So, why the need for transition surgery, etc.-- if gender is not connected to biology? If you dress up a male dog in a dress, after he's been castrated-- he's still a male dog, wearing a dress. Just sayin... There isn't a female dog in the world that would be confused about him Not being a female dog-- with or without the dress. Make of that what you will
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That unhinged dude is an activist, agent provocateur, pushing an incoherent, cult agenda
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They call men toxic, but when those men call out their toxic female empowerment, then the females label the men bigots and sexists.
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@Maksie0 I did. I raised mine. He's in his 30's now, and doing very well. thank you. He was never confused about the differences between boys and girls, or reality and make believe. What's your excuse?
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@echoticz9225 That's not even complete sentence. I don't know what you're trying to say. Telling someone what?
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:face-green-smiling::face-blue-smiling: Who told you that? Of course they are. Transgender is a social construct, and doesn't alter biology at all
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@pendragonsxskywalkers9518 Trans women are men with issues prancing around as though they're women without issues-- Still men w/ issues
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@sodiumso6015 Immigrants who lived in abject poverty and have come the the USA in search of a better life, and actually achieve it-- seem to be a glaring example of just how wrong you are. Go check out the Ben Carson story. Raised in poverty, and rose to be one of the top in his field surgeons, famous for developing surgical techniques to help conjoined twins.
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@sodiumso6015 How so? That isn't much of a refutation at all. You should quit while you're behind
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@mariec3733 Not possible by myself. I certainly didn't do most of the heavy lifting as it were-- regarding the pregnancy's gestation period or delivery. Why do you ask? Do you think it would've been possible without a woman 1st consenting to risk getting herself pregnant? NEWSFLASH: It is Not
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To sow division among people
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The insistence on grammatically incorrect usage of pronouns is off-putting
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@mariec3733 I reject your cult terminology. People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and earlier. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules, it has nothing to do with gender. Now you know
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@alexelmaleh3076 And it didn't make them women or another gender back then either. What's your point? It seems like you're having difficulty with the fact that the variability in personality traits and temperament among males and females (Neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys), and are attempting to redefine the word 'Gender' to fit your narrative. That's an error
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Gender and sex aren't disconnected. Gender is NOT a social construct. Gender roles are the social constructs and they're well-established, which is why the counter-culture trans-narrative is itself the real construct and they are unable to process that distinction. Their inability to process the truth of it, doesn't invalidate the truth. We're not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe, or cater to their subjective feelings. NO! Just... No They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits. The entire narrative is incoherent nonsense
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@Flaquito2893 They've mutilated their bodies, and wear disguises to appear like that which they'll never be-- Men. I mean, you can neuter a dog, and put him in a dress, and he's still a male dog regardless of the surgery or the costume
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@Flaquito2893 It's XX, XY, Birth Defect. That's it. No, they can't. Doing cosplay, doesn't get it done, and neither does gene therapy w/ surgery with an elaborate costume. If anything it's more trans-human than transgender. Gender and biology aren't separate. The ideology's narrative is incoherent. They're attempting to rename personality traits and temperament-- which are not gender exclusive, 'Gender'-- and that's just incorrect
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Gender and sex are intrinsically linked. They're not disconnected. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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@markusbaker1161 Being "trans" is the REAL construct. Same as they ever were. They're not trans anything, except in their imagination
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@vanthonvenus Nonsense. Re-read my 1st reply, only s l o w e r-- this time, for clarity. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a birth defect that doesn't invalidate the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species. 🤙
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Try that LGBTQ+ ideology in a muslim country, and let me know how that works out for you. smh
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My sides ache from laughing with joy
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Seed of the serpent vs the seed of the woman at play
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@markusbaker1161 If I told you I was a druid who knows about lots of religions, would it make you feel better? Don't care... Go away troll
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@markusbaker1161 It doesn't matter how you take it. It appears that you over-estimate the value of your opinion. You've already established yourself as a liar, religious bigot, antagonist, trans-activist and a misogynist. Your interactions have proven to be hostile, evasive, free from integrity, and in general-- substance free. I came here asking questions, scrutinizing some of the things you and others have said, and you haven't yet answered. You've failed to make your case. Deal with it.
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@markusbaker1161 Just telling it like it is. Don't dish it out, if you can't take it being returned to you Newsflash: Your acceptance isn't required
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@markusbaker1161 Your opinion is noted and has been rejected for a while now. Get used to it
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@markusbaker1161 The time for your nonsense is quickly coming to an end. My opinion is derived from facts and truth, yours is baseless blind faith in your cult narrative. You Lose
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@markusbaker1161 If you want to pretend that men are women, and women are men-- go ahead. LOL
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@sigmalpha_testostronewolf Life is valuable. Why don't you think so?
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@sigmalpha_testostronewolf Adoption... There is no way to unscramble an egg
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@Maksie0 You don't appear to understand how reality works
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@maximeminassian6002 It's a cult term, created and utilized to pretend that there's another kind of woman, other than those born female-- BUT there is Not. Women (ALL of them) are born female, with exactly ZERO exceptions. Take your time to process reality. A woman isn't a social construct, a feeling, s3xu@l preference, or a costume.
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Having a plastic surgeon change your appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek, doesn't actually make you a Klingon. Same is true regarding gender transition surgery. Still, XX or XY
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Why do those who hold the trans-activist ideology up as true and correct and who insist that gender is fluid think that statement Is valid?
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It seems to me that the solution to unwanted pregnancy rests with women making smarter choices.
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@conor.3875 That's why the time for preventative birth control is prior to risking pregnancy
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@mariec7352 Oh, the irony...
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@mariec7352 You still have no valid argument, and are dismissed for a lack of relevance.
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@mariec7352 ZERO evidence of you making a persuasive argument re: the termination of the innocent-- anywhere. (Going back months)
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@mariec7352 Your failure to recognize the argument doesn't reflect well on your comprehension capacity-- Again. The argument is, "if you are aware that you could get pregnant, then you shouldn't be doing things that accidentally cause it. Simple"
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Woman= An adult, human, female. How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@Maksie0 What's your point? Since people break the law, abandon all laws?
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Making the point, by illustrating that one's subjective gender identity doesn't alter their biology-- that the entire narrative is incoherent madness, because if that were the case-- it wouldn't make those men anything other than men?? 🤔
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Short answer is, Yes.
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@blahajlife8259 It's just as relevant as your feelings
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smh... 🥴😵😵‍💫🤒🤕 Doesn't equal involuntary manslaughter... Obviously
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@TheChristianCurator Children's healthy development requires parents that instill a fundamental foundation of morals and values in them, so that when they're of age they can function appropriately and productively-- in society.
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@churchroadrecordsreviewsan231 It's sadly not an uncommon tale among child abuse victims, that their woke parents raised some basket cases and troubled youth.
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The common theme is they're Men, presenting as something they're not ie. women
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The advocates of ab0rti0n prefer to keep the comment section an ethics and morality free zone
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@paulabueno4570 Me too. My previous comment was referring to the activist trolls who are ever present with their lo-fi intellectual narratives, and morally bankrupt whinging.
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@paulabueno4570 No worries. Be well, happy and healthy-- and keep calling them out on their morally bankrupt and sociopathic pathology-- which fuels their narrative.
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@paulabueno4570 Keep Rockin 🤙
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@bareq99 Trans women are men with issues, pretending they're women without issues.
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@CS-iq4xn No, I'm not misconstruing or conflating anything. Men cannot become women regardless of their feelings to the contrary, and women cannot become men-- regardless of their feelings to the contrary. If your identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality and then must participate in your LARP and cosplay, then too bad, so sad-- that identity is a figment of your imagination and is in no way valid in objective reality. Cope Harder
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The narrative suggests that gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity. Both can't be true, showing the narrative is incoherent
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Bottom Line is, objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities-- then the identity is not valid.
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@ItsSchwifty Your comment isn't refuting anything and isn't very persuasive
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Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable... That's why sovereign nations have borders
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They have less integrity than a phone scammer
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@Sonworshipper As if that fool has a brain
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Neither anxiety about reality, personality, preferences, nor fashion choices change anyone's gender, and I suppose that might bug a group of guys pretending to be Cinderella for attention, but sometimes the truth stings. All women are born female, all men are born male (ZERO exceptions), and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, personality, or a costume.
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@TheLegendOfRandy Hilarious. No, they don't even come close. There are 3 types of parasites and a fetus doesn't resemble ANY of them
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@markusbaker1161 are you a doctor who can debunk this?
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@markusbaker1161 Ignoring you now
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Has critical thinking and basic math always been troubled areas for you?
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@mariec3733 You say, while failing to answer the question yourself... 🙄 If it saves a majority of innocent lives, even if not all-- I'll take that as a win
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@TheLegendOfRandy That looks like the sort of comment a late teen would make
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@TheLegendOfRandy At nearly 60 yo... the kiddo reference is amusing. I don't share Marie or your nihilistic view of the world
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@ElanaVital83 You spelled mutilate wrong
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@aaralyn6710 Only if you don't know the definition of mutilation
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@aaralyn6710 Mastectomies and bottom surgeries definitely Do
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@batlover1977 All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference or a costume making the use of cis/trans irrelevant and intellectually shallow
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Nonsense
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It's not complicated. There is only 1 kind of woman and she's born female. Those dudes-- were not
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@mariec3733 The stats, in my opinion, show it to have horrendous results
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@mariec3733 The one's that show the rates of sui*idality
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From a Swedish study: "Conclusions: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suic***l behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."
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The final say on whether or not women are willing to risk themselves getting pregnant, when facilitating it-- is why they have no one to blame but themselves for their avoidable self-inflicted dilemmas. How do you propose to save people from the consequences of their own actions, or have them choose to make intelligent choices, and elevate their character to more than one driven like a mere base animal, fixated on it's own self-gratification regardless of consequences?
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@briannachilders772 Nope... Not even close. Chopping off parts and a costume change, does not a woman make
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@seeyouallintherapy Gender refers to the sex observed and assigned at birth, and relates to the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Quit conflating gender with personality. They're not synonymous. A woman isn't a social construct, a costume, or a feeling.
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@ILovePink-x1v No one forced anyone to risk pregnancy. Get your head out of your backside
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@meggie An adult, human female. The fact that you had to ask, after telling me I had no place in this discussion, illustrates the shallow depth of your intellect. It's your side, which is the fringe minority in the world-- that needs to persuade everyone in the world to use your pronouns etc..., well; you fail to persuade-- so need to do much better at making your case or you need to do better at realizing your feelings aren't sufficient to have people who know the difference to suspend reality in favor of fantasy. Now, run along little troll
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Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable That's why Sovereign Nations have borders
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To ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where as a feminist-- You'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are women and you have to compete with them in the work place and on the sports court, and in prisons, etc... Do you think that should be validated by society at large???
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@thecolorblue1635 It's just that-- it's so relevant, and so many people don't seem to realize it. What if I told you, just stop w/ the trans pronoun comments? Why not address the substance and engage in something productive, instead of just bitching for the sake of bitching?
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@markusbaker1161 Being trans is the construct based in fantasy. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is the real construct. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally because of a psych disorder or for attention, or Both. That you can't wrap your head around that is a YOU problem. Breathe...
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Exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule-- they prove the rule by being the exceptions. Gender is binary. Gender roles are the social construct that you prefer to focus on.
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@bgos4727 That's explains a few things
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@TheLegendOfRandy No, that's not correct. Don't want to get into a car accidents, So-- drive very carefully, and don't drive uninsured, because there are other motorists who are morons out there. If you know you're a terrible driver with a horrible driving record-- you're the hazard to yourself and others Look, the odds are-- if you go looking for trouble, you'll find it. Naturally, if you don't want to get into a bar fight, not going to bars is the guaranteed solution to work. That doesn't mean you cannot go to a bar, but it means you know and assume the risk yourself, if you do-- does it not?
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@TheLegendOfRandy You're naive if you think life is risk free. It is not. If you had to risk getting pregnant-- I bet there would be ZERO chance that you'd forget to take your birth control pill correctly, etc... It's 2022, and birth control isn't a secret. If you're promiscuous-- you increase the odds of achieving the avoidable.
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Your statement is a contradiction. You said there are no roles, and then went on to describe how your parents were reversed in their roles-- proving there are in fact roles. The exceptions to the rule do not disprove the rule-- They prove the rule by being the exceptions
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@Maksie0 Give it a rest... There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the use of cis totally irrelevant
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@gummynoodles9036 Cis is a term used in chemistry to describe the position of certain molecules relative to one another, and has nothing to do with gender.
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When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There is no middle ground on that fact. It is what it is
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@R L Oh, Denial You haven't kept up on the news of the trans women placed into all female prison and r@ping and impregnating female inmates, or the stories of males dressed as girls, in HS r@ping HS girls. Middle Ground? Like I said, Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There is no middle ground on that fact. It is what it is, and arguing with those who are disconnected from objective reality about it doesn't seem productive. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the absence of any actual virtue, in any of your unhinged triggered whinging.
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@Nicholenickinicscott I wasn't quoting you, but it appears you missed the point nonetheless. There is no such thing as trans ANYTHING. There is male (XY) and female (XX). You could have a surgeon alter your appearance and it doesn't make you trans-ANYTHING. You're still the same being w/ the same sex and gender prior to surgery, hormones, makeup and a wardrobe change-- as you are after. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect-- That's It!!
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So?
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@AnarchoAngel It's a birth defect, not another gender. Look, they can have a surgeon transform their appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek-- But it doesn't transform them into an actual Klingon. The same is true for gender surgery. They're mad because we don't see them as they see themselves, and we aren't falling for their disguise, or their incoherent explanations of their ideology... They don't accept themselves, so go through elaborate measures to transform their appearance into something they're not, and expect to be accepted for their disguise, as opposed to being accepted for who and what they really are. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect. That's It
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Trans women are men. Men already have their own restrooms
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@Maksie0 THAT'S Wrong... Women are adult, human, females-- and those men aka trans women aren't that-- They're men. Women who are trans are trans men.
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@catboyash You spelled women incorrectly
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Budweiser just called and said, women and men are wholesale, rejecting the woke trans activist ideological narrative for the bull 💩 that it is.
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It's already happened several times
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@markusbaker1161 The court cases already did
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@markusbaker1161 No need. The courts already did
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@markusbaker1161 Internet search will verify what I said. :face-turquoise-covering-eyes:
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@yepitsjilly Making the point that your definition of gender doesn't affect biology, so how are those men justified in being granted access to women's private spaces?
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@markusbaker1161 You're saying women are transphobic because they don't want men in their spaces-- because you don't acknowledge women's rights, making you a misogynistic woman hater
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@markusbaker1161 blah blah blah... You said sex and gender were separate; making the point that one's subjective gender identity doesn't alter biology. Referring to biological men as trans women, then saying trans women are women is intellectually stunted and totally wrong Make it make sense
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not in it for 'points'. Your cult ideology is rejected. You say sex and gender are separate; making the point that one's subjective gender identity doesn't alter their biology. Referring to him as she is grammatically incorrect and absent any basis in reality. You're wrong
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@markusbaker1161 You say sex and gender are separate; making the point that one's subjective gender identity doesn't alter their biology. Referring to him as she is grammatically incorrect and absent any basis in reality. Prove me wrong
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Restrooms are designed and implemented, based on biology-- and your suggestion would do NOTHING regarding showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, sports scholarships, sports teams or prisons
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@evianlemons6543 No, it cuts through the nonsense-- and gets to the heart of the issue. Are you going to fund them,and then realize that the other things I mentioned aren't resolved with building a restroom for 67 gender identities??
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@slipperyslopedownward9041 With a definition that puts things in perspective
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@slipperyslopedownward9041 Makes your original comment less than useless
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Commie troll, get lost. "Socialism has a history of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it". T. Sowell
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Well, misogyny in so far as-- they did go out of their way to appear like men-- because they hated themselves, did they not? Is that what you mean?
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It's XX, XY, Birth defect... That's it. Putting on a costume doesn't change reality
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Too bad nobody asked if the pro-trans agenda intended to prove that the gender pay gap is a myth, by maintaining the ideology's insistence that gender is separate from biology and fluid.
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What about "Dude". If they can't respect not using the cis prefix despite women protesting it's use, then they should quit their whining about preferred pronouns. No?
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Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are inappropriately confusing and conflating gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous and they are not, while simultaneously insisting that biological sex and gender are disconnected-- while failing to realize that a subjective identity doesn't alter anyone's biological reality. Lost souls
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@markusbaker1161 To you-- the activist troll? No doubt
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@markusbaker1161 You admitting that what I wrote is confusing to you is meaningless
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@markusbaker1161 For years, I worked with the developmentally disabled-- and they didn't have difficulty telling the difference between males and females. What your excuse?
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@markusbaker1161 Got it! You have No excuse. All you've done is, make the point that one's subjective gender identity doesn't alter their biology-- illustrating that those men are still men. :face-blue-smiling::face-green-smiling::text-green-game-over::person-turqouise-waving:
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@mariec3733 I worked with the developmentally disabled for years, and they didn't have difficulty deciphering the differences between men and women-- What's your excuse? 😵😵‍💫🥴🤕🙄
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@markusbaker1161 Islamophobe
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@markusbaker1161 You-- being a religious bigot
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@mariec3733 Don't need to see their DNA. Blossom for ex. Looks like James Brown in Drag... There's no mystery there... He's a dude
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@mariec3733 Maybe you can't-- But, the rest of the world can and has been able to decipher the differences between men and women since the dawn of time. That you can't is a YOU problem
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@mariec3733 It must seem that way to you, that common sense and basic observational capacity, coupled with an analytical capacity and ability to follow logic, is a super power. I can't put 3-digit IQ's worth of intelligence or understanding into a 2-digit IQ head space capacity-- and expect it would be understood
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Respect their 'truth'? Why would you presume a schizophrenic's dissociative delusions as 'truth'?
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Wait... They said gender is fluid and disconnected from biology, so how then, is there male privilege? It's incoherent
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Being "Trans" IS the construct-- based in fantasy. Not trans anything. Same as they ever were, regardless of altering their appearance or their wardrobe change
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What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, costumes, or preferences. (ZERO exceptions) That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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