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Comments by "Z P" (@zachman5150) on "Trans vs Conservative Women: Are Periods Essential to Womanhood? | Middle Ground" video.

@helia_. If they refuse to respect that the women don't wish to be referred to a cis, he has no ground to stand on, from which to insist his preferences be respected
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@nerd5 Why would someone who believes they're a woman wish to have the distinction drawn? That's Odd
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*He/himself
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@MarshallllWalker As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those dudes weren't. Now you know... Cope and seethe if you must
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He said A dude is a dude is a dude, and that doesn't change with a costume change, makeup, or surgery
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@mshoney9301 No they aren't. Gender refers to the sex observed at birth and the social aspects of being male or female. The 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female-- and those men aren't it
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The entire ideological narrative is incoherent
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@kefisher7218 Society isn't obligated to rearrange itself to accommodate you. It's your challenge to integrate into society. The world doesn't owe you, and to operate as though it does is arrogant and thoroughly unjustifiable
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@Natslocker There's no such thing as trans women. That's just another word you use to describe confused men, who cosplay and LARP portraying the stereotype of a caricature of a female. There are only males and females, which is why using the cis prefix is entirely nonsensical. Now you know why
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@Replyingtoclowns People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and prior. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules, and it has nothing to do with gender.
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@MarshallllWalker Says the guy who's name is dannyblewballs. Grow up
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@БайГаньо-м8р There is no such thing as trans women. That's just another term used to describe confused men who LAPR and cosplay, portraying the stereotype of a caricature of a female. There are only males and females, which is why using the 'cis' prefix is entirely ridiculous. Now you know why. YOU cope
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* He, fails to realize that the 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being female.
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@faiesies No, I'm not forgetting anything. Quit conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive) with gender. They're not synonymous. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those dudes weren't. A woman isn't a costume men can put on and take off, and they aren't a social construct, or a feeling. A woman is an adult, human, female
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@mshoney9301 A woman is an adult, human, female, and those dudes aren't that and never will be-- Cope Harder
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@redacted5035 There's no hatred involved in recognizing that he isn't that which you claim. It's just being observant. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid.
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@faiesies If someone's identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality, and participate in their cosplay-- then THAT identity is not valid.
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@mshoney9301 Not much of a refutation. Yes, words have meanings and you seem to have difficulty with those meanings. You seem to be inappropriately conflating the variety of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive -- hence butch females, tomboys and effeminate males) with gender, as though they're synonymous, and they are not.
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@Doodlebopjunior There's nothing phobic with recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim to be. It just makes them observant of objective reality. He can't have it both ways and insist on others using his preferred pronoun (Conflicting with objective reality) while actively using the cis terminology that was being objected to. Hypocrisy thy name is Blossom. Respect is earned and it's reserved for that which is respectable.
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@helia_. Woman= An adult, human, female
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There's nothing phobic about recognizing that you're not that which you claim to be-- It merely makes one observant, for recognizing that you're FOS
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@cathyreggiardo8150 Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@celetial3287 Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders -- who don't live in reality about there being two genders. XX, XY, Birth Defect, That's it! MANY are inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) with 'gender'. There are clearly males and females with various biological abnormalities, infertility, post menopausal, anomalies and surgeries, etc.-- still male or female, respectively-- and none are representative of a new sex/gender that invalidates the binary. You can neuter your male dog, make him wear makeup and a dress, and it doesn't make him a female dog. Just sayin... 2. Intersex isn't another gender in the binary. Why, because there is no newly discovered benefit or attribute elevating the human design and are often infertile, but always only represent the 2 sexes in the binary. Also, none are w/ the ability to reproduce offspring by themselves. It's a silly argument to make. Would you argue that people born with one arm and leg invalidate the norm of people having 2 arms and 2 legs? fyi-- It does not You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek and prescribe hormones etc... and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon, and those who think it does are delusional.
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@MegaVega2007 Well, it shouldn't surprise you that people who would inappropriately appropriate womanhood would also inappropriately use terminology and twist it to fit their narrative.
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If you can't accept yourself for what you actually are, I refuse to accept you for what you actually aren't
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@sirliom They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@hadamerryweather577 And you find that individual to be a credible source of knowledge and wisdom because???????????????????
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@faiesies A phobia is an irrational fear. There's no fear involved in recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim. That's just being observant of objective reality.
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@RealLadyG He's a self-centered narcissists. Make no mistake, they demand that you accept them and respect their way of life, hate you for yours and are seeking to destroy it.
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@fable_enthusiast Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Gender and Personality-- They haven't learned the difference. There's only one kind of woman, and they are all born females, so... using the cis prefix is totally redundant and unnecessary. The entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh There are males and females. That's it! Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct; She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals specifically humans. Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1. The body and brain develop & grow together -> One simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2. Hating a part of their body so much that they opt to cut it off, despite it functioning properly-- is a mental illness.
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Seems to me, that the socially awkward ones have difficulty deciphering the differences between fact and fiction and suffer anxiety when having to face selecting the appropriate restrooms.
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@razyice Why? Respect is earned, and is reserved for that which is actually respectable. A dude is a dude is a dude. They're LARPing at BEST
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@SmokestalDude420 They insist that trans women are women-- making their choice to use the cis prefix entirely redundant and extremely odd.
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In other words men v women
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@ishfail One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@Certifiedslow Tell me, why should a male, who "needs help with their mental health" be granted access to female's private spaces like dressing rooms, locker rooms, sports teams, restrooms and prisons?
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@lokalemadderfakker_nl Yes... Yes, it is odd. The whole point of transitioning is because they believe they're something they're not, and can never be. It amounts to an elaborate cosplay episode, otherwise. They're still the same sex and gender that they were prior to altering their appearance.
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@marsargoxmiso1695 I'm not a woman, and I know that a woman is an adult, human, female-- and trans women aren't that-- They're men. It's not complicated.
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@IAmMana9 *He 😉😏
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@st4rbirdie *He -- Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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100% pure unadulterated narcissism, on their part
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@EvelynElfgarden * His... Same as prior to altering his appearance, as he is after
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@MarshallllWalker I hope you get the help you need to feel less insecure, when people recognize that you're a male not a female
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@Azulakayes *He
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@brujosam Calling those men something else, doesn't make them something else. They're still men, regardless of their attire or claims to the contrary. The 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female.
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@chloexu1158 The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Cutting off your pecker doesn't make you a woman. It's just makes you a dude who cut off his damned pecker Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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@kiarachilombo9172 They fail to consider that the 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female
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@hellohoneyfernishere7301 Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is actually respectable. Those men aren't women. Women aren't a costume that those men can simply put on and take off, and they're not a feeling or a social construct. Women are adult, human, females and as it turns out-- the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female.
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@princedemetri *He... That dude is unhinged
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@rgxcx4414 He's a dude, and has no clue about what it means to be a woman
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@Natslocker It matters to your side of the isle, as it is you and yours who requires the participation of everyone in society to play along with your cosplay and LARPing, using your preferred pronouns etc... Too bad, so sad. The world owes you nothing. Cope harder
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@Certifiedslow Gender refers to the sex assigned/observed at birth, and the social aspect of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent.
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@charlee_xox1562 There's no such thing as trans women. That's just another word used to describe confused men, who cosplay and LARP-- portraying the stereotype of a caricature of a female. There are only males and females, which is why using the cis prefix is entirely nonsensical.
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@TorbieGinger No, women are adult, female, humans-- not merely a subjective concept. Quit conflating personality traits and temperament with gender
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The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@onlyahoe4u I find nothing respectable about them
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@Doodlebopjunior Why wouldn't you? She's actually a female. I discern reality from fantasy, and I recognize that they're not trans anything. They're the exact same sex & gender that they were prior to altering their appearance, as thy are after they do. Pronouns are used when speaking about someone to another, not when speaking directly to someone. When directly communicating, I use people's names.
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@EvelynElfgarden How do you figure? He's the same sex/gender prior to altering his appearance, and changing his attire, as he is after
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@elenawilliams32 That dude is unhinged from reality.
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@GlockSling If their identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality and participate in their cosplay and LARPing as though it were real, then that identity isn't valid at all.
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@Certifiedslow No, men are adult human males, and women are adult human females. I defined gender above for you already.
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@brujosam The 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female, and *he's not that. Cope Harder
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@TorbieGinger Referring to a male as she/her is grammatically incorrect, and it is actually You, who are misgendering him
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Not unusual for people with mental and emotional disorders
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@ianwallace7704 Not even close. Pay attention-- The sound you're hearing is that of men and women everywhere rejecting your incoherent ideology.
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@emiliocabrera3894 No, it's because he is obnoxious and rude
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@Maksie0 Evidence?
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@TorbieGinger Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Gender and personality are not synonymous. Learn the differences
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@amberfirexx9 They're not trans ANYTHING. Still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after
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@clumsy_zebra_97 That narrative is bogus
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Nah... Just observant women recognizing that the men were not that which they presented as
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@ieatlostsoulz Here's the point: Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are inappropriately confusing and conflating gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous and they are not, while simultaneously insisting that biological sex and gender are disconnected-- while failing to realize that a subjective identity doesn't alter anyone's biological reality. Lost souls
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@redeye9762 One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@onlyahoe4u I disagree. The truth matters. How is it that the 'worst' person in the world who's espousing lies and deception is worthy of respect? Looks like you're reaching to me.
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@bottleofwhite_liquid5399 No worries. Though... they aren't trans anything. Same sex/gender prior to surgery and altering their appearance and chemistry as they are after.
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@ezekielmatta They're arguing that he isn't that which he claims to be. That's just being observant of objective reality. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. They're LARPing, at BEST Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@insektas No, Gender and sex are intrinsically linked. They are not disconnected. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. You're conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) as though they're synonymous with gender-- and they are not. We're suppose to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe? Why?? I maintain that gender is not a social construct, or separate from biology. Gender roles are the construct, and so too is the transgender narrative-- a mere social construct, based in subjective lunacy, not reality. Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior traits. I mean... C'mon now. It's ludicrous
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Raise your own kids and leave the kids of others alone. They're none of your business
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@Maksie0 Well, that's a sad testimony about your comprehension skills, because it's been explained to you a LOT by many different people.
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@OfficiallyTrust Issues Where's the compromise to be found between objective reality vs subjective imagination, founded in fantasy and rooted in fiction? You don't use pronouns when conversing with people directly. You only would use them when talking about someone to another. I use people's names when talking to someone directly. Don't you?
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@lokalemadderfakker_nl I would argue that gender is addressing the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. You could have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, prescribe hormones, a fashion consultant and hair and makeup specialists, and it wouldn't make you an actual Klingon
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"It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people [like Blossom] who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@ishfail One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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You seem to prioritize form over content. My issue is discerning reality vs their subjective, delusional self-identity which mocks it-- by suggesting we need to affirm their self-perceived identities. The answer is No... Just No They aren't 'trans' anything whatsoever. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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@jayb5667 Total psych case
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Humans aren't respected for just being humans. They're respected if they do respectable things OR Not
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@nellysplayhouse9520 That's the sound of men and women everywhere rejecting this woke madness. If you need confirmation, ask Budweiser, Target, and Disney
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@alexwilliams2276 Nonsense. They're arguing that he isn't that which he claims to be. That's just being observant of objective reality. Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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:face-blue-smiling:🤣 They're men, not women. Why should those men be granted access to women's private spaces like dressing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, sports teams and prisons?
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@jammaniamania4036 One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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Not unexpected, when dealing with people who have psych issues, and intellectual deficits. That dude is lost
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@joytotha No, reality is objective. Your feelings are subjective. Science deals with objective reality. How is it that those who deny objective reality aren't dissociative by definition?
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No, it isn't. Developmental sex disorders aren't evidence of another sex invalidating the binary of all mammalian species. Gender is not disconnected from biology. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There are people and they are males and females and there are segments of both which present with various birth defects, psych disorders, and some with both-- none of which are evidence of other genders invalidating the binary. It's XX (Female), XY (Male), and a variety of Birth defects/disorders within segments of each ... neither of which display sex organs other than that found in the binary. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@iamz_mbie NO... Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is actually respectable. Not all cultures are Equal,Compatible, nor Desirable... That's why sovereign nations have borders
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@thebarbie222 It's their insistence on policing the preferred pronouns others choose to use where the problems start
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Not everyone is raised by groomers
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@dollface6376 Better that than them assaulting women in women's spaces. No one is saying you can't express yourself as you wish. You can identify as a Klingon if you choose-- BUT, that doesn't mean that others will perceive you as you perceive yourself. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do.
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It illustrates "What" you are though
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Nah... Just observant women recognizing that the men were not that which they presented as
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@jakekorando7187 The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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@fruitguzzi9122 The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or more physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@pianocat5955 No, having the opportunities taken away and given to dudes who call themselves trans women-- is an issue for women, not the "trans" people. The only people who say trans people are oppressed are trans people…
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No, it isn't. They're only mere caricatures of what they wished they were.
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@Ehrenmensch Perfect! SO-- quit insisting that we indulge YOUR preferred pronouns, as though we're somehow obligated to deny objective reality because of your 'Feelings'
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@zweks The insistence on preferred pronouns etc... and screwing up women's sports, from those who are observant enough to recognize that they're not trans anything and are the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after-- suggests otherwise
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@jammaniamania4036 No, that doesn't make sense. I'm not a gender pretender. That dude is a mere caricature of that which he wishes he was, and will never be-- A woman
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They already have the same rights as everyone else. Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@markusbaker1161 According to a Swedish study, Long-term follow-up of transsexual persons undergoing sex reassignment surgery: cohort study in Sweden "Conclusions: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, sui***al behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."
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*He
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@KenzLovesMovies A woman is an adult, human female That's a biological category which is fixed and permanent. Women are not a social construct
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@babymoose1616 Gender and sex are intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. Looks like a lot of people still haven't figured out that gender in not synonymous with personality traits and temperament yet. Like I said, If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is actually respectable. Pronouns aren't what you'd use, when communicating with someone directly in the 1st person. You'd really only use them when speaking about someone to another. When speaking directly to people, I tend to use their names, rather than refer to someone as something that they are not. Don't you?
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@GlockSling Yes, really... It's not true that men can become women or vice versa.
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@sekhmetthe7845 Evidence of intellectual bankruptcy, on his part
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Not enough asylums or professionals with ethics
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That dude is as confused as it gets
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@n.m8287 trans women are men. Why should those men be granted access into women's private spaces?
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@handletheseboltz That they certainly aren't packing the seats in the stands like in male sports, NEVER occurs to them when it comes to determining value
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sewer~rat It's a redundant term, totally unnecessary for describing women.
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@tiqueen2047 Quit confusing personality with gender. They're not synonymous
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Being wrong and outspoken isn't a great look
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Are you trying to prove your shoe size dwarfs your IQ w/ that intellectually bankrupt comment, or are you just an activist troll, or Both?
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@vingram100 The considerations and analysis of the intellectually bankrupt, in no way alters objective reality
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@hadamerryweather577 Then your comment was because??
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@Maksie0 Nope, Never will be
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@Maksie0 Being that all women are born female, how do you figure he should be referred to as she???
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@Maksie0 Ya, exposing their incoherent nonsense, for the nonsense that it is
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@timeisahumanconstruct9251 He is a male
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@rampagesmackssons508 Nope... It isn't society's job to accommodate them. It's for them to adapt and integrate into society. Besides, that won't alleviate the issues with scholarships, changing rooms, dressing rooms, locker rooms, showers, sports teams or prisons.
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@Milo-nr9kc Ah, when your feelings are easily hurt, just cope harder. The world doesn't give a crap about you or your feelings. It will be here long after you're gone
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@trombonesarecool1 No, gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female respectively, and male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Gender is not disconnected from biology, it's intrinsically linked.
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@anicon5892 Recognizing that someone isn't that which they're presenting as isn't hate-- it's just being observant of objective reality
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They're not trans anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after. There are people. They are male and female. There are segments of each which present with birth defects and psych disorders, neither of which invalidate the binary of all mammalian species. Developmental sex disorders are not separate sexes/genders. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspect of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) and are incorrectly attempting to use the term as a synonym for/with gender
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@Maksie0 Being that the self termination stats are clear, of those who suffer these delusions-- it doesn't seem likely that your suggested scenario is likely at all
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@gudemeneely Weird. I identify my friends by name
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@coolbreeze6532 Yup!!! They're not "trans" anything. Still Human, Still Male or Female as they were when they were born, respectively -- just what amounts to an elaborate disguise in the gender binary
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I’m not delusional::::says the person who chooses to chop off their body parts, thinking it'll change their sex.
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He's not what he claims to be, and people are observant enough to realize it. That just makes them observant.
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It's XX, XY, Birth defect, Psych disorder... That's it
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@rosalynlarry6533 They're not trans ANYTHING. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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@Maksie0 Dude, give it a rest. It's been explained to you several times by several different posters
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Biological women are the only kind. Trans people aren't 'trans' anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to altering their appearance and messing w/ their natural body chemistry, as they are after
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How about, No. The world doesn't revolve around their needs. They can establish their own sports organizations, if they choose. How about bringing back asylums for the mentally and emotionally disturbed
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@Alexis-ny5rd :face-blue-smiling::face-green-smiling: That's wrong, but If they were, the use of the trans prefix wouldn't be necessary and totally silly.
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@markusbaker1161 No, still men-- If what you said were true, they would not need to add the trans prefix... They'd just be called women-- but they're men
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Why do you have no consideration for women?
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An adult, human, female
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@GlockSling Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is actually respectable. There is no disrespect involved in recognizing that someone is not that which they portray themselves. That's just being observant of objective reality. What are you going on about, regarding truth?? It's not true that men can become women or vice versa. Why are you pretending it is?
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@GlockSling You seem to be taking it personally that the majority of the world reject your narrative. Cope and seethe harder... Don't believe me. Ask Budweiser
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@lamari_posa No... Respect is earned and it's reserved for that which is actually respectable. If your identity relies on everyone in society denying objective reality, and requires that they all participate in your cosplay or LARPing, then your identity isn't valid. Simple as that
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TOTAL Intellectual bankruptcy. There are males and females, and there are minority segments of each which present with birth defects and various mental illnesses/psych disorders. They aren't "trans" ANYTHING. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance and chemistry, as they are after.
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I'm fairly certain Blossom didn't understand either, evidenced by the incoherent ideological woke babble
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@DestiniqueXo Why would someone who believes they're a woman wish to have the distinction drawn? That's Odd
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@Maksie0 No, they are not. They're Men w/ issues, pretending that they're women without issues
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There is nothing phobic about recognizing that they are not that which they claim to be. It merely makes one observant
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@amberfirexx9 Why are you pointing out that the other side is observant of the reality that dude-- is still a dude, after altering his appearance?
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@petemiller2920 The rate after transition is still nearly 10x's higher than the average, so that's not a shinning example of successful treatment.
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Babylon rising
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Even if it were true, gender doesn't invalidate biology-- so why then should those men being referred to as 'trans women', be granted access to women's private spaces? You have NO justifiable reason
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Better them, than the women having their privacy invaded, when they use theirs
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Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male and female. It is not disconnected from biology. The entire comment section is filled with trans-activists who ALL have failed to engage in a productive dialogue, when asked direct questions or when presented with information which questions their analysis and conclusions about the claims they make, which seems to directly contradict your assertions
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@Maksie0 Not in reality they aren't... There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Try again??
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It's an anti-woman ideology. Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men who will claim they're women-- and they don't even see it coming
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Psych issues at play
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Developmental sex disorders aren't evidence of another sex invalidating the binary of all mammalian species. Gender is not disconnected from biology. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There are people and they are males and females and there are segments of both which present with various birth defects, psych disorders, and some with both-- none of which are evidence of other genders invalidating the binary. It's XX (Female), XY (Male), and a variety of Birth defects/disorders within segments of each ... neither of which display sex organs other than that found in the binary. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. Cope Harder
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@DrScott-su4eu A phobia is an extreme, 'irrational' fear. You're correct, being observant of the fact that people are not that which they portray themselves isn't fear based. It's just being observant of objective reality
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@Maksie0 What's the supposed swindle?
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He isn't trans ANYTHING. He is the same sex/gender now after altering his appearance, as he was prior to altering his appearance. There is nothing phobic about recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim to be. It just makes one observant.
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@Miss_Witch13 Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is respectable. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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They did exactly that here. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@fruitguzzi9122 Respect is reserved for that which is respectable, and it's earned. Recognizing that someone isn't the sex they portray themselves as, isn't something I find worthy of respect. If someone had an eating disorder like anorexia, and I encouraged them to continue dieting, that wouldn't be respecting them either.
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Bathrooms are based on sex not feelings or subjective identities
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There's nothing phobic about recognizing that they are not that which they claim. That just makes people, observant of objective reality
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There's no hate in recognizing that someone is not that which they claim to be. It's just being observant.
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So, to what do you attribute the increase in psych disorders?
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They aren't trans ANYTHING. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance and body chemistry-- as they are after. You can alter your appearance by having your face tattooed w/ a woman's face, and it doesn't change your sex/gender either
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@krosleypayton814 No. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance and their body chemistry, as they are after... Still male or female, respectively. IF you were correct, they wouldn't need to transition at all or bother with making the distinction trans or cis
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@krosleypayton814 No you aren't. There's nothing phobic about recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim to be. It just makes them observant Have a nice day
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@ChrishBlake Thanks. I maintain that gender is not a social construct, or separate from biology. Gender roles are the construct.
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As often is w/ people who have mental problems
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Cis, is a term used in chemistry to describe the position of certain molecules, one from another-- and has nothing to do with gender. There's only one kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the use of 'Cis' totally irrelevant and useless.
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There's no such thing as 'Trans'. You're exactly the same sex/gender prior to altering your appearance, as you are after. LARPing, doesn't count
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@Maksie0 Groomer much?
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@markusbaker1161 You don't matter, and you fail to persuade. They're men, and their existence isn't the focal point of contention. Of course they exist. They're just not that which they present themselves as, but If you want to pretend they are, nothing is stopping you
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trans woman is a word that describes men with issues-- pretending that they're women without issues
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No, it's because women fail to support women's support the way men support men's sports, and because men's sports have players performing at a higher level than the women's teams. It's not complicated.
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Looks like the "trans" activists are women haters
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LOL... No they are not, and they never will be. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after. They're LARPing
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@Maksie0 That's the sound of reality pointing out and rejecting your imaginary bull 💩 You better get used to it
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@williammiller6330 The salient point is, those men are in no way women and are in no way justified in being granted access into women's private spaces
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@Maksie0 That's wrong! They're dudes who wish they were women, so engage in cosplay and LARP to compensate
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@Ben-2606 Then you're dismissed for being less than useless, and I remain unrefuted
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Oh Stop It! No one in the history of the world has ever changed their sex. That condition is permanent. Mutilating yourself doesn't change your sex. Never has, nd never will
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@justyana488 That's not a refutation. That tells me you're an activist troll that's got no substance, trying to be edgy.
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@MrTriple3D Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are inappropriately confusing and conflating gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous and they are not, while simultaneously insisting that biological sex and gender are disconnected-- while failing to realize that a subjective identity doesn't alter anyone's biological reality. Lost souls
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@markusbaker1161 You and maksie have both made the claim that trans women are women and that TOTALLY wrong.
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They want society restructured around their self-perception. Their obsessive and unquenchable need for affirmation is unmatched ANYWHERE. Narcissism on over-load. The trans activists demand that everyone in society participate with them in the LARPing/ cosplay by abandoning everything known about fundamental physical reality for their feeling's sake. NO.... Just, No
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They already have the same rights as everyone else. Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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Cope Harder
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@joytotha Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then the identity is not valid.
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fyi-- Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people-- who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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That's the sound of people everywhere, rejecting the incoherent ideological narrative as pure madness
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@TheALfever If you're talking about trans, you use trans... If not, you're talking about actual women, or men-- respectively, the cis prefix is totally redundant
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@mariec3733 Restrooms are based on biology, not subjective claims of personal identity. Why should those men have access to women's private spaces?
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@Maksie0 * He-- wasn't born female-- so how do you figure, since ALL women are born female?
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Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@KenzLovesMovies A woman is an adult, human female-- not a social construct, and those men who you refer to as trans women aren't that and never will be, they're men. Cope Harder
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@Maksie0 Get some therapy
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Irrelevant. The fact being disputed is that they are women too, and they aren't
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@teabagged4654 They're not trans anything. They're exactly the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. There are people. They are male or female, respectively. That biological status is fixed and permanent. There are segments of each which present with a host of various physical and psych disorders, some with both and multiples of each. Those aren't other genders. Recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim to be, isn't indicative of hate... It's just being observant of objective reality.
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@Stanbily Intersex is a birth defect, where the individual has organs of both sexes male & female (Often non-functional) and they do not present another sex in the binary, and for that reason-- they don't invalidate the binary at all. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), with gender
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You give him that much credit for intellectual acuity? I wouldn't hold my breath
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@LouisDiCorzo The presumption of fear seems odd. Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders -- who don't live in reality about there being two genders. XX, XY, Birth Defect, That's it! MANY are inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) with 'gender'. There are clearly males and females with various biological abnormalities, infertility, post menopausal, anomalies and surgeries, etc.-- still male or female, respectively-- and none are representative of a new sex/gender that invalidates the binary. You can neuter your male dog, make him wear makeup and a dress, and it doesn't make him a female dog. Just sayin... 2. Intersex isn't another gender in the binary. Why, because there is no newly discovered benefit or attribute elevating the human design and are often infertile, but always only represent the 2 sexes in the binary. Also, none are w/ the ability to reproduce offspring by themselves. It's a silly argument to make. Would you argue that people born with one arm and leg invalidate the norm of people having 2 arms and 2 legs? fyi-- It does not You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek and prescribe hormones etc... and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon, and those who think it does are delusional.
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An attempt to suggest there's another kind of woman other than those born females. It's intellectually vacant
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Intersex isn't another gender in the binary, it's a birth defect
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@gudboah4688 The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule, they prove the rule by being the exceptions. I accept that there are people. They are male and female, and segments of each present w/ various physical birth defects and various psych disorders, some with both. People like Blossom aren't trans anything. There merely caricatures of that which they wish they could be, and never will-- women
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@marcusweaver6766 You can try to be a Star Wars character too, it doesn't make you one
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@markusbaker1161 Yes they are, and your insistence doesn't change that
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That dude is annoying because he's unhinged from reality, and is rude
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Developmental sex disorders aren't evidence of another sex invalidating the binary of all mammalian species. Gender is not disconnected from biology. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There are people and they are males and females and there are segments of both which present with various birth defects, psych disorders, and some with both-- none of which are evidence of other genders invalidating the binary. It's XX (Female), XY (Male), and a variety of Birth defects/disorders within segments of each ... neither of which display sex organs other than that found in the binary. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. Cope Harder
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@indiasounds1335 No! Facts are inevitable
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@haileytorres8320 A legitimate person with a fraudulent identity is still a valid person, but their fraudulent identity is not
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@Maksie0 Never will be a woman. He's the same as he ever was
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No, what amounts to female impersonators are not women AT ALL. A woman is an adult, human, female-- and they are not that, and never will be
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Gender is not a social construct. Gender roles are. Get it straight
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@aweleoniah5985 Woopie dooo Still a dude
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That dude was obnoxious and incoherent. Cope harder
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Consider that too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender, as though they're synonymous and- they are not. Then, they inappropriately conflate gender with gender roles. Then, they argue that gender and sex are different, failing to recognize that subjective gender identity doesn't change their biology at all. Men cannot become women and women cannot become men. It's not complicated, but apparently they lack the ability to process any of that intelligently.
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@suga3774 The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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Bottom line-- men cannot become women. A woman is an adult, human, female, not a social construct. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman, and that's being born female. 'Trans' is the "social construct"-- being played out by men.
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@emmakaye8407 It's not an opinion. It's biological fact. Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in your near dystopian futures-- you'll end up oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim they're women.
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@emmakaye8407 Feel free to lie to yourself, and cling to your ignorance. You could go to a surgeon and alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek if you wish-- and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon-- and if you think it does-- you're delusional.
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@Astrum11 The relevant point is drag queens, cross dressers and trans women are all men
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It's not just the bathrooms. It's also dressing rooms, locker rooms, sports teams and prisons
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@markusbaker1161 You think you have to be a doctor to read the stats, and studies? Do you also think you have to be a veterinarian to tell the difference between a dog, a cat and a bird? Grow up
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sewer~rat Yes, it is. If you're talking about trans, you use trans... If not, you're talking about women, or men-- respectively
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Well, they're not biological women. Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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None are mammalian species. Context matters
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@markusbaker1161 You haven't been able to make any sense over having biological men being granted access into women's private spaces, despite insisting that sex and gender are separate. Why don't you respect women's rights?
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Blossom seems to have been trying to prove beyond any doubt that his IQ is dwarfed, by his shoe size
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Observing that those men are not what they claim to be isn't a matter of fear-- it's a matter of being observant of objective reality
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Drag is an adult form of burlesque entertainment, and doesn't belong around children.
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Expecting people with emotional and psych issues to have the capacity to reason at that level is illogical and unreasonable
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@coolbreeze6532 They're not "trans" anything. Still Human, Still Male or Female, as they were when they were born, respectively -- just now with what amounts to an elaborate disguise in the gender binary-- more akin to a drag queen, or cosplay with a dash of psych disorder.
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@Maksie0 You say, while conflating science with science-fiction. You're not even as deep as a baby spoon
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@whotfispolly3725 How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition? Nah... I'm gathering information about the replies of those who clearly fail to make their case, or refute anything, arguing only for sport, and pushing an agenda. I find the total lack of analytical capacity, or the ability to articulate a coherent direct response to ANY questions challenging their assertions fascinating, and illustrative of the disingenuous nature of those who are advocates. The problem with their virtue signaling, is the absence of any actual virtue.
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@insektas Gender and gender roles are being inappropriately conflated as though they're synonymous and they are not. Take your time to process that. Like I said, You're conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) as though they're synonymous with gender-- and they are not. Happy people aren't self-terminating their existence. Trans people are, in numbers significantly higher than the normal number of cases, continuing to prove that they aren't happy, in general-- by terminating their existence.
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@Maksie0 No, they're men with a quirky fashion sense. Nothing more
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@markusbaker1161 They're dudes in a dress, nothing more
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You really need to do better. That's not even as deep as a baby spoon
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@_TeeVee_ The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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@queenofhearts7503 A woman is an adult, human female, and *he isn't that-- so, how do you figure?
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Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in your near dystopian future, you'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim that they're women-- and you don't even see it coming. smh
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@Maksie0 They're still women. They're not "trans" anything. Still Human, Still Male or Female as they were when they were born, respectively -- just what amounts to an elaborate disguise in the gender binary-- more akin to a drag queen. 2 genders... That all.
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Correct
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@Maksie0 I've had enough of my comments shadow banned and deleted here to confirm it happens
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@But...WhyTho The trans advocates insist that a trans woman is a woman, So, it's extremely odd that they would insist on the trans or cis prefix. A dude who's chopped off his pecker doesn't become a woman. He's a dude who's chopped off his damned pecker. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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@But...WhyTho You've failed to persuade or to articulate a refutation for what I wrote. People exist. They are male or female. There are segments of each which present with physical and psych disorders-- some with both, and their feelings about them don't invalidate the facts
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@vanthonvenus And, a woman is an adult, female, human
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@markusbaker1161 Fiction is what the trans-narrative's ideology spouts
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Why do I have to go along with this cosplay as if it was real??? They're men
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@Maksie0 Because the 'Standard' doesn't require a prefix descriptor
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An adult, human, female. Female being one half of the binary dichotomy male/female-- which happens to also applies to all mammalian species.
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It seems that the reason they have it hard is because they're wrestling against reality
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, duh... The thing is, the reality and prerequisite to becoming a woman is-- being born female, and trans-women aren't that. They're men, and are in no way entitled to access to women's private spaces.
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@markusbaker1161 You seem to have a vested interest in suggesting that men, when presenting as women, regardless of whether or not they suffer w/ gender dysphoria-- should be granted access to women's spaces and that women should be okay with that. That's Odd
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@markusbaker1161 Your comment history proves it
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Silly label... pointed toward the observant, who realize the following: They're not Trans ANYTHING. They're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after-- which means they're still men
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@Tézis9 The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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They don't either. It's still XX, XY, Birth Defect, Psych Disorder. That's it... They're not trans anything-- Still male or female, respectively -- as they were born, only now having changed their appearance, not unlike a Halloween costume
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They can dress up perversity as diversity, but they're only fooling themselves, if they think their self perceived fantasy is representative of reality-- in ANY way.
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A woman is an adult, human female, and has been since the dawn of time. That confuses you? You seem to be inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent.
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@brekedekdang39 Charming... No one is saying you can't express yourself as you wish. You can identify as a Klingon if you choose-- BUT, that doesn't mean that others will perceive you as you perceive yourself. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. Now, what better advice to take-- than your own buh bye... Cope Harder
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@Maksie0 A woman is an adult, human female, so how do you figure those dudes are women? You're WAY OFF
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@barbymadison878 80% of the households in the Black community, it's women raising the children without their fathers... so, what's your point? That they're doing a horrible job?
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sewer~rat TOTALLY redundant and unnecessary to describe women. Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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There's nothing phobic about realizing that someone isn't that which they claim to be. It just makes those who recognize it, observant
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Bathrooms are designed and implemented based on biology, not subjective feelings and identity.
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Cry harder
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Being trans is the highest height of the objectification of women-- EVER achieved.
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@Maksie0 Unlike the others on the panel
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@onyxavatar The 'because you said so' standard has been issued zero credibility because you've refuted nothing whatsoever. You fail to persuade
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, the words and definitions I use can be found in the dictionary. :hand-orange-covering-eyes: ex. Black's Law dictionary defines a woman as an adult, human, female. Your strong disagreement, unfortunately for you, your arguments, or claims-- isn't supported with anything which proves me incorrect. Your goal to agitate and obfuscate is clear, but it doesn't make you correct or prove me incorrect.
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@thedoctorofgallifrey Gender and sex aren't disconnected. Gender is NOT a social construct. Gender roles are the social constructs and they're well-established, which is why the counter-culture trans-narrative is itself the real construct and many seem unable to process that distinction. The inability to process the truth of it, doesn't invalidate the truth. I'm not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe, or cater to feelings. NO! Just... No They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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@Maksie0 They have no business in there-- they're men
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Special Olympics
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@krosleypayton814 If you're talking about trans, you use trans... If not, you're talking about women, or men-- respectively
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@ThaWiseMan-SD Correct... Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. All they're doing is altering their appearance and body chemistry. They're not 'Trans' ANYTHING whatsoever. Their the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after.
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Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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1. Equity is in fact measured as an equality of outcome. There are males and females... That's it. Cope and seethe if you must, but it changes nothing. Men cannot become women and vice versa
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:face-blue-smiling:😆😅🤣😂🤕
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Not much of a refutation
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Developmental sex disorders aren't evidence of another sex invalidating the binary of all mammalian species. Gender is not disconnected from biology. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There are people and they are males and females and there are segments of both which present with various birth defects, psych disorders, and some with both-- none of which are evidence of other genders invalidating the binary. It's XX (Female), XY (Male), and a variety of Birth defects/disorders within segments of each ... neither of which display sex organs other than that found in the binary. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. Cope Harder
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@Sirena No, they're delusional men. They can have a surgeon alter their appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, prescribe hormones, recommend a fashion consultant and hair and makeup specialists and it doesn't make them an actual Klingon, and if they think it does-- it illustrates that they're VERY delusional
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@SaraMinatz There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female-- making the use of cis entirely irrelevant.
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They're often sterile
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If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not.
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If you want to call me trans-phobic-- I really couldn't care less. There's no there-- there. You can rename men 'trans', and it changes nothing but the name. It doesn't change them or make them women, or illustrate that they're trans anything. If your subjective identity is predicated on the notion that society needs to ignore objective reality, then your identity is not valid. How does advocating in favor of men infiltrating women's private spaces, show any respect or consideration for women and their private spaces??? Why, according to you-- should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim that they're women.
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@Maksie0 It's even more simple than that... They're not trans anything. They're still males, and their costumes and altering their appearance doesn't change them into the opposite sex/gender. If they can't accept what they actually are, I refuse to accept them for what they're actually not
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@Yeltnerb 1 No, 'we' don't. I wouldn't play along with someone w/ anorexia, by affirming their desire to continue to lose weight, either-- for the same reason. Feeding a dissociative condition by affirming it, doesn't help anything
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1. They aren't trans anything. They're still the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after 2. They're in denial of objective reality, which by definition is a dissociative state 3. Expecting rational thought from people who are dissociative, isn't likely or reasonable
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Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men Gender addresses the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female. It appears that many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@Maksie0 Poor thing. You still haven't figured it out huh? Apparently *he fooled you
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@Maksie0 It is the trans-activists like you, who's insistence that others-- who are already minding their own business, participate in your LARP and cosplay, by insisting on the grammatically incorrect use of pronouns, and with no regard for the displacement of women's privacy, which is at the root of how you brought your business to everyone in public, making it their business. Irony or idiocy? Quit your whining. You look and sound ridiculous
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@mr.mclibtard5015 No doubt, he'll talk about it being an adjective -- avoiding the point all together
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@TallisKeeton It's incoherent madness devoid of logic and reason
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Exactly correct. Still male, or female-- respectively, and still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance and screwing up their natural body chemistry, as they are after.
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@markusbaker1161 Lots of up vote notifications to several of my comments indicate I've been not only been recognized but also endorse my thoughts w/ their approval. Ex. "A woman is an adult, human, female, and those dudes aren't that and never will be-- Cope Harder" 10 up votes on just this one" Make of it what you will
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It's nonsense. A woman is an adult, human, female and that condition is biological, and permanent
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@qk7x A woman is an adult, human, female. 100% of the population is either male or female, even intersex people. If they have a Y chromosome, they are heterogametic and male. If not, they are homogametic and female.
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They're not trans ANYTHING. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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Still is male. That state is fixed and permanent. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman, and that's being born female-- and that dude wasn't
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There's no such thing as trans men. They're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're still women
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@xclosy LOL!!! Nope... You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, prescribe hormones, etc., and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon, and if you think it does-- You're Delusional. You can neuter your dog and make him wear a dress, and it does not make him a female dog. Just sayin... It's XX, XY, birth defect, mental illness... That's it, take your pick
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The use of cis is nonsense. There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female
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@cricketwastaken Stereotypes exist for a reason. There are people. They are male and female. There are segments of each which present with birth defects and psych disorders, neither of which invalidate the binary of all mammalian species. Developmental sex disorders are not separate sexes/genders. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspect of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) and are incorrectly attempting to use the term as a synonym for/with gender
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There's 1 prerequisite to being a woman and womanhood and that's being female. Those men aren't respecting that
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@Maksie0 There's a reason prisoners are segregated from society,and it's not because it's a bad thing.
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You don't hit a kid and change their sex/gender-- by doing so
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He has NO case. The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@cowplusdog5655 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and relates to the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many conflate the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) as though they're synonymous with gender and they are not. You seem to be confusing and conflating gender and personality. Then, you seem to be confusing and conflating gender and gender roles. Then, you seem to be confusing and conflating men for women and vice versa. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There's a prerequisite to being a woman, and that's being born female-- and those dudes were not. They're men If you listen really carefully, you can hear women and men everywhere rejecting the woke, trans activist, cult narratives en masse. Don't believe me... Ask Budweiser
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That dude is unhinged from reality
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Delusional Men vs Women
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What about dressing rooms, locker rooms, prisons, sports teams? There's a bigger picture here
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They're total narcissists, and detached from reality
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@mariec3733 You're entitled to your opinion. Your false assertions are entirely baseless. It seems to me that those saying trans women are women, are the ones who are misogynists, having no honor for the desires of women or women's concerns or privacy, and are the one's detached from reality.
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Maybe? If they believe their own rhetoric, they're entirely detached from reality
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@ijustneedmyself Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men Gender addresses the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female. It appears that you and many others are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@Maksie0 How do you figure? You said sex and gender were separate; making the point that one's subjective gender identity doesn't alter their biology. Referring to him as she is grammatically incorrect and absent any basis in reality. Make it make sense
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@Ben-2606 There are people. They are male and female. There are segments of each which present with birth defects and psych disorders, neither of which invalidate the binary of all mammalian species. Developmental sex disorders are not separate sexes/genders. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspect of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) and are incorrectly attempting to use the term as a synonym for/with gender
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These delusional living memes illustrate the need for more asylums
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Because the ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. The saying is, If you want to anger a conservative-- tell them a lie, and if you want to anger a leftists-- tell the truth.
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@Maksie0 Why do you think that kids who go through puberty will not gain clarity, post-awkward stage?
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@kodiejc4202 Think deeper thoughts. The point is drag queens, cross dressers, and trans women are all men
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You buy that huh? Grow a spine
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@Cheprock83 You're ranting nonsense. None of those things has ever changed anyone's sex either. What are you rambling about?
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@justyana488 Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not. You fail to persuade. Cope Harder
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@Maksie0 There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions and you have done nothing whatsoever to prove otherwise. Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are. You just keep making yourself like a triggered, petulant, late-teen-- attempting to virtue signal, while seeking attention so you can feel relevant. The problem you have with your substance-free virtue signaling is the absence of any actual virtue, in any of your snarky commentary. You Fail to persuade. Own it, and move on
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue are people who don't live in reality about there being two genders. Cope harder
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The entire ideological narrative is incoherent madness
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There's nothing phobic, about recognizing that someone is not that which they claim to identify as, or as they present as like a drag queen might-- That's just being observant. You and MANY others are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) with 'Gender'
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That dude is unhinged from reality.
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@conor.3875 You're the one who keeps claiming that sex and gender are different. That you don't comprehend that it invalidates your attempt to justify the incoherent narrative you've been peddling-- that trans women are women-- being that they're men isn't a surprise
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Yet, the sewerslide rate remains nearly 10x's higher than the average. When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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@Tray8088 The point is, they're pretending/portraying themselves to be something they're not-- and can never be
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@Tray8088 What you're talking about seems to fail to take into consideration that not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable, that's why sovereign nations have borders
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@Maksie0 Isn't their objection enough to respect their preference?
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@edgar5814 Not dissimilar to a Halloween costume, as I see them
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Yes, I concur
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A woman is an adult, human, female and these men who've altered their appearance-- aren't that and NEVER will be
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@Jhon Dalton Bottom line-- men cannot become women. A woman is an adult, human, female, not a social construct. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman, and that's being born female. 'Trans' is the "social construct"-- being played out by men.
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Nonsense... They're not trans ANYTHING. Still the same sex/gender prior to changing their appearance as they are after.
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@jupiterfox7683 If your subjective identity relies on the participation of others in your cosplay and LARPing, and ignoring or rejecting objective reality-- too bad so sad for you. You better get used to being disappointed
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@joytotha Those who promote the idea that a costume change, and altering one's appearance changes one's sex/gender
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That dude has major issues
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@TheALfever Like I said, Biological women are the only kind of women. Trans people aren't 'trans' anything. A woman is an adult, human, female and that biological category is fixed and permanent They're still the same sex and gender prior to altering their appearance and messing w/ their natural body chemistry, as they are after.
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@mariec3733 Ya, THEY need to adapt to society, Not the other way around. The point about the fact that males and females are a biological category which is fixed and permanent, making the statement 'trans women are women' patently absurd and false-- seems to elude you.
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@jeon0jungkook83 That's a dude. Men cannot become women. Now you know
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Restrooms are designated based on sex, not subjective feelings.
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@KenzLovesMovies The definition I use is gender refers to the sex assigned/observed at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Even if it were true, that gender and sex are disconnected (they aren't), it doesn't invalidate biology-- so why should those men being referred to as 'trans women', be granted access to women's private spaces?
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@KenzLovesMovies Even if it were true (it is not), gender doesn't invalidate biology-- so why then, should those men being referred to as 'trans women', be granted access to women's private spaces? You have NO justifiable reason
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Drag Queens, Cross Dressers and Trans women ALL have the same thing in common-- they're all men
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@Maksie0 You spelled 'Trans' wrong
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The comments show that there are people who can discern that they aren't trans anything, and that they're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after-- and that they're LARPing at BEST
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@kiarachilombo9172 If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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There is no such thing as trans women. That's just another term used to describe confused men who LAPR and cosplay, portraying the stereotype of a caricature of a female. There are only males and females, which is why using the 'cis' prefix is entirely ridiculous. Now you know why
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@OHOHOHOOHOHOOOHOOHOHO Men encroaching on women's private spaces and claiming to be entitled to do so, just because they claim they're women-- is quite rude, disrespectful of women's rights and is totally absurd
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"It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@Maksie0 No... Trans women are men with issues prancing around as if they were women-- BUT, they're not. They're men
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@markusbaker1161 People with fraudulent Identification cards are still valid people-- but their Identification cards aren't. Are you ignoring the not-so-subtle nuance intentionally, or is it just a comprehension capacity deficit on your part?
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Nah... People be observant, recognizing the objective reality that that dude is a dude
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What you're referring to as "transgender women", are men--by any other name, still men. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@markusbaker1161 Changing what you call men doesn't transform them into anything else. They're still men
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@mariec3733 They are all people obsessed with themselves
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Both are men portraying something they're not-- women
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@markusbaker1161 I know, I wrote it. The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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The smart ones that have some class can
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Prove they're women, and should be granted access to women's private spaces.
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The entire narrative is incoherent nonsense, catering to and aiming at, and highlighting those with mental problems while inappropriately attempting to normalize it all. Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will claim they're women-- and the feminists don't even see it coming
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It's entirely redundant. They say trans women are women... No, they aren't. They're only caricatures of that which they can never be-- women, because they're males
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@jennifersteele7036 Calling those men something else, doesn't make them something else. They're still men, regardless of their attire, or claims to the contrary
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It isn't as though everyone else is whinging incessantly about pronouns, making a spectacle of themselves by insisting that all of society participate in their subjective identity.
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@markusbaker1161 No, just pointing out an observation of irony. Bottom line-- You're wrong and men cannot become women. A woman is an adult, human, female, not a social construct. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman, and that's being born female. 'Trans' is the "social construct"-- being played out by men.
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@markusbaker1161 You most certainly are
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@markusbaker1161 Hasn't happened yet-- so you have nothing to worry about
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@Milo-nr9kc The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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Translation = They're not trans anything... Still female = 100% correct
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@petemiller2920 One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Cope Harder
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@clumsy_zebra_97 Don't conflate social constructs with biology, by suggesting that trans women are women. It's patently absurd and totally incorrect. Women aren't a social construct; trans however, IS. Those are men Your cult narrative is rejected.
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iiPortiaPlays It is a general statement. Generally, it's correct.
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@yumalove7411 Gender Dysphoria, according the the DSM5, is a psych disorder. This is well-known
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@markusbaker1161 So have I. You have shown a massive reading comprehension deficit and/or willful blindness regarding all of it, responding instead with intellectually bankrupt responses. Your opinions, and severely lacking analytical capacity-- couldn't be less useless, or less interesting. The truth is that the 1 requirement for being woman is being female. Your failure to acknowledge it, changes nothing
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No such thing as trans. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after. Try to focus
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@alexisfranklin1695 They're gender pretenders. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do
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@allie4492 You look triggered to me snapper-head
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And professional sports determine the pay of the players, based on the revenue they generate, not by how hard they try
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Education is the cure for ignorance-- BUT, Stoooopid is FOREVER because it is the lack of capacity to assimilate new information which crushes their narrative and course correct their thinking
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@lokalemadderfakker_nl Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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It's incoherent madness
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Their ENTIRE narrative is delusional psycho babble
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@angelesbarkus-hough3932 Not trans anything. Still the same sex/gender prior to altering his appearance as he is after. A dude is a dude is a dude...
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@DefiledDame The way science works apparently confuses you. Can you tell the difference between a dog, a bird and a cat, when you see one? Well, I can
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Almost correct. From birth you're a biological female, and you eventually become a woman, as you enter adulthood. A woman is an adult, human female
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They are evil
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Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@Maksie0 He. That state is permanent
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I get what you're saying... It's XX, XY, Birth Defects, Psych disorders... That's it, regardless of what the AI bots and the advocates are whinging about, incoherently.
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"It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- Thomas Sowell
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*He
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@markusbaker1161 Look, I get it-- you're an agitator. Knowing that my comments trigger you, because I'm not fooled into believing men are women due to a disguise, or altered terminology-- is just a perk. There are no studies anywhere proving that a trans-woman is not a biological male. If you want to pretend otherwise, feel free
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I'd have triggered everyone of those dissociative loons
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@Maksie0 They are, when they say trans women are women. People are disputing that trans women are women... because they're males who've merely altered their appearance, thinking that somehow makes them women
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Shallow intellects fail to recognize intersex is a birth defect, not another gender in the binary
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Why?
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@markusbaker1161 Because respect is earned,and is reserved for that which is respectable. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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Because they're self entitled narcissists w/ mental problems
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Exactly Correct
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There is no middle ground between fantasy and reality
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TOTAL Intellectual bankruptcy. There are males and females, and there are minority segments of each which present with birth defects and various mental illnesses/psych disorders, some with all of the above. They aren't "trans" ANYTHING. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance and chemistry, as they are after.
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They aren't 'trans' anything whatsoever. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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@MetalxxDragoness Intersex is a birth defect, where the individual has organs of both sexes male & female (Often non-functional) and they do not present another sex in the binary, and for that reason-- they don't invalidate the binary at all. Those with organs from both sexes are extremely rare and NONE are able to reproduce by themselves. Not a new sex/gender Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), with gender
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Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then your identity is not valid.
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@MetalxxDragoness Not hardly. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then your identity is not valid. They're not trans nything. They're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after. They're LARPing at BEST
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@ItsSchwifty I'm not. It's irrelevant, but to the extent that by definition-- if one is suffering with gender dysphoria, they are in a dissociative state. You can choose to 'identify' as a Klingon from Star Trek, and it doesn't actually make you a Klingon, and if you think it does, it makes you delusional. Your subjective fantasy, in no way obligates the world to affirm your delusion as valid
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@RotisserieiJamie Why should those men be granted access into women's private spaces like dressing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, sports teams, and prisons?
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The gender pretenders don't speak for any women. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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N E V E R. These people have mental problems
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100% of the population is either male or female, even intersex people. If they have a Y chromosome, they are heterogametic and male. If not, they are homogametic and female.
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@Maksie0 Your inane comment isn't refuting anything
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So that *He can pretend that there is another kind of woman-- other than those born female
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@Maksie0 They don't seem to have the confusion you do, about the differences between males and females.
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@emilianocabezota3125 Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is respectable. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally because of a psych disorder or for attention, or Both. That you can't wrap your head around that is a YOU problem. Just Cope Harder
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I don't get it... It's not that they don't matter. Of course, people matter. If someone gets implants in their @ss and identifies as a Centaur-- That doesn't make them one, but that seems to be the rational of those suggesting that altering one's appearance and identifying as the opposite sex, actually makes them that which they identify as... Make it make sense
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@seandevlin4051 The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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Blossom isn't rooted in reality. That dude is entirely unhinged from reality
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@Maksie0 You 1st
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LOL Ya think? That dude is nutz,
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@teabagged4654 He's still a boy. Being cognizant that he isn't that which he claims isn't hateful. It's just being observant. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your/their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then your/their identity is not valid.
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@Milo-nr9kc The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule. They prove the rule, by being the exceptions
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@mhmmargott Well, that's not much of a refutation marco. I love spreading the truth, and exposing the incoherence in the narratives, because the truth matters
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@mhmmargott Great! Being "trans" IS the construct. Deal with it and cope harder
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@markusbaker1161 That's what I call them, so yes they are. They're recognized by me as dudes in a costume
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Say the men, while claiming to be women
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@Maksie0 No they aren't. They're men. Women aren't a costume that men can put on and take off, and they're not a social construct. Quit conflating personality and gender-- they're not synonymous
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There is no hate involved in observing that someone is not that which they claim to be
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@allyrose28 When some hairy dude in a dress, w/ clear psych issues is screaming, "It's Ma'am", clearly in contradiction to reality, affirming their delusion isn't my preferred solution. You do you
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There really are no other kind of women, than those naturally born. They aren't trans anything, as far as I'm concerned. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do
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@Maksie0 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females-- making the cis distinction entirely useless, redundant and irrelevant.
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People like Blossom don't even like themselves
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@petemiller2920 pub med dot gov
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Because gender is supposedly fluid? /S TOTALLY incoherent ideology
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@kerujerez8246 You tell them. Woe, to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian futures, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will claim to be women, and the feminists don't even see it coming
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@Maksie0 Pointing out reality isn't a phobia
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@Maksie0 LOL... Not even close
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Why should 'They' incur the expense to accommodate the subjective identities of people-- in stark contrast to objective reality, when restrooms are designed and implemented based on biology, not subjective identity claims???
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How are they-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? Why should those men who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria be granted access to women's private spaces like sports teams, locker rooms, restrooms and prisons?
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Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@Maksie0 The definition of a woman is an adult, human, female, and as it turns out-- there's only 1 kind of woman, and she's born female. Now you know
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@markusbaker1161 Translation= No one seems to be able to refute my points
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@markusbaker1161 Altering one's structure and a wardrobe doesn't change one's sex/gender. That's a fact
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@Maksie0 Rejected. Those trans dudes will never be women
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@Maksie0 No, you are
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@R L That's how I see it, when some dude in a dress is screaming "It's Maam". I figured, "Buddy, that's a You problem dude, and If it bugs you that I recognize that you are not that which you claim to be-- too bad so sad"-- would be your suggested response. :face-green-smiling::face-blue-smiling:🤣😂
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@SriSrinivasable They're an activist troll and are apparently intellectually stunted and morally bankrupt
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@Maksie0 Must be the personal accountability that repels you
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@markusbaker1161 There's no hate involved in recognizing that someone is not that which they claim to be. It just makes me observant. Best of luck w/ that intellectual deficit and limited analytical capacity. Think Deeper thoughts
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The inability to discern objective reality from their imaginary dissociative self-perception seems to be an even bigger theme. Developmental sex disorders aren't evidence of another sex invalidating the binary of all mammalian species. Gender is not disconnected from biology. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There are people and they are males and females and there are segments of both which present with various birth defects, psych disorders, and some with both-- none of which are evidence of other genders invalidating the binary. It's XX (Female), XY (Male), and a variety of Birth defects/disorders within segments of each ... neither of which display sex organs other than that found in the binary. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@zoverhere Have the Special Olympics create them a category
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@scarlettdavis9336 There's nothing phobic about recognizing that you aren't that which you claim to be. It just makes me observant of objective reality. That you have issues with objective reality negatively impacting your 'feelings' illustrates a disconnect from reality. Somewhere in the world is the worst doctor, and someone has an appointment in the morning. You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek and prescribe hormones and an image consultant, and it doesn't transform you into an actual Klingon, and those who thinks it does are delusional
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@scarlettdavis9336 Developmental sex disorders aren't evidence of another sex invalidating the binary of all mammalian species. Gender is not disconnected from biology. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There are people and they are males and females and there are segments of both which present with various birth defects, psych disorders, and some with both-- none of which are evidence of other genders invalidating the binary. It's XX (Female), XY (Male), and a variety of Birth defects/disorders within segments of each ... neither of which display sex organs other than that found in the binary. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. They need to learn to Cope Harder
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@scarlettdavis9336 No... It's a clinical diagnosis. I agree that most who call themselves trans, aren't suffering with gender dysphoria. In those cases they're LARPing in the same way drag queens do. I'm a retired Behavior Modification Specialist. You're just wrong
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Both are men posing as women. it's really as simple as that
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@Maksie0 No, silly wabbit... Trans women are men with issues, pretending to be women without issues.
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There i only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female making the use of cis irrelevant and useless
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@markusbaker1161 Nope, Still XY, not trans ANYTHING = Nothing more than a caricature of what they wish they were and can never be-- a woman. A face lift, genital mutilation, and a wardrobe change-- and none of that turns a male into a female, no matter how much you wish it to be true, it is not. Sorry to burst your bubble of wishful thinking
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@CreativeUsernameEh Even if he identifies as immortal? His point is valid. They're men. There appears to be a prerequisite to being considered a trans-woman, and that's being male. There is no science which shows that trans-women aren't males. The fact that people want to pretend otherwise doesn't change objective reality
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@markusbaker1161 There is no science anywhere that proves trans-women aren't men.
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@markusbaker1161 Those men you're describing have no business being granted access to women's private spaces.
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@erauprcwa Do you? They aren't 'trans' anything whatsoever. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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@markusbaker1161 Gender: There are 2, Male and female. Gender roles are social constructs-- Not gender, hence trans being a social construct-- making the statement 'trans women are women' absurd and removed from objective reality. They're men
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@littlesunshine4591 He isn't 'trans' anything. He's the exact same sex/gender after altering his appearance and wardrobe change, as he was prior. He's all kinds of wrong
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@littlesunshine4591 You didn't have to. My point is still valid
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🎯 They fail to realize that the 1 thing required for being a woman is actually being a female
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@Maksie0 If anything, they're men-- who are calling themselves trans. Still men
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How about, No. The costs will be passed onto everyone else. The thing is, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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B I N G O 💯
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@brianwebberable How? That dude looks like a reject at a James Brown look-a-like contest, or President Dwayne, Alizondo, Mountain Dew, Camacho from the movie Ineptocracy
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Learn to cope with the fact that not everyone will like you or agree with you
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No it doesn't. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Being religious doesn't invalidate any of that
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Woman = adult, human, female. Female = a biological category that is fixed and permanent. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspect of being male or female, respectively. Intersex is a birth defect, not another gender, in the binary
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They think their butterflies. The attempt to normalize these dissociative disorders is tragic and medical malpractice imo
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They should know the difference between gender and personality traits and temperament
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Nah... It's because *he's rude, obnoxious, and spouting nonsense
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They have exactly ZERO frame of reference as to what it is to 'feel like' a woman-- they're men who wish they were women
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@Maksie0 Trans isn't the standard by which all are measured, it's an extreme minority-- making the distinction redundant and entirely unnecessary.
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Both are men
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How many kids have you raised who've become healthy, happy, productive members of society?
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That's because you're using the term inappropriately. There's nothing phobic about recognizing that you aren't that which you claim to be. It just makes us observant
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders. Intersex isn't another gender in the binary, it's a birth defect.
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LOL!!! Trans women are men with issues, pretending to be women without issues.
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I recognize trans-women as men who've chosen to make themselves a caricature of the women they wish they could be. They appear to get triggered, that I'm not fooled by their disguises, and that I recognize that they're still men, but just with a quirky fashion sense, some of whom who've had plastic surgery-- and that regardless of you calling them trans-women, I recognize that they're still men. The 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female-- and those men aren't that.
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@cherrycrycry9150 No, they do not
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@briannachilders772 Because the truth matters
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@Maksie0 Why would someone who believes they're a woman, insist on drawing the 'trans' distinction? That's extremely Odd
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There's no fear when recognizing that someone isn't that which they present themselves-- that's just being observant
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Small IQ, and psych disorders marching hand in hand
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@Maksie0 Referring to a male as she/her, is not proper use of grammar. Respect is earned, not owed-- and it's reserved for that which is respectable.
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Would you say that a significant number of people who are claiming to be trans do not in fact suffer with gender dysphoria? It looks that way to me like they're LARPing at BEST
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@noahdouglass3294 Perhaps an asylum, if they're such a threat to themselves
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Perhaps just an asylum?
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It's bigger than that. There are also locker rooms, dressing rooms, showers, changing rooms, prisons, and scholarships for female athletes.
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@daisyloe No doubt that gender dysphoria is real. I dispute that a significant number of people suffer with it, being such a rare disorder-- and those who aren't suffering with it are engaging in cosplay, as I see it. People can identify however they please, but it doesn't alter objective reality at all
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@prettyrottenpisces You're the one that wrote, "We're trying to normalize it". Get your tubes tied, and leave other people's kids out of your field of focus
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@helia_. Apparently not
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@sistergypsyy I'd have just told him, "Chill dude. You aren't being very lady-like" HAHAHAHA
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@Maksie0 Nope, not even close and they never will be
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They should never be allowed near children-- EVER. How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@Maksie0 Quit gaslighting. If you listen really closely, you can hear the sound of women and men everywhere rejecting the incoherent trans ideology and terminology-- and calling it out for the bull 💩that it is. Don't believe me?? Ask Budweiser
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The 'because you said so' standard has been issued exactly zero credibility. Do Better
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@markusbaker1161 To bolster the point that women have been attacked in women's spaces, by men who don't belong there.
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@markusbaker1161 I personally don't think it's a great solution to prevent that from occurring, to facilitate men being in those spaces. Why do you advocate in favor, as though you think it is?
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@markusbaker1161 Hispanic, and Native American (Seminole) mix here, but I am enjoying watching you make a spectacle of yourself. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@markusbaker1161 Your baseless opinion is irrelevant and is pitifully weak
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No one is saying you can't express yourself as you wish. You can identify as a Klingon if you choose-- BUT, that doesn't mean that others will perceive you as you perceive yourself. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do.
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@Maksie0 They're not trans anything. Still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after
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Nothing stopping those men who wish they were women but aren't, and are merely acting like women, who have no business in women's private spaces-- from using the men's room either
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@ariabird925 Not a refutation. Do Better. You deleting my comments doesn't make what I said untrue.
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@ariabird925 There's nothing phobic about realizing that they're not that which they claim to be- It just makes one observant. The thing is, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@molls127 It's XX, XY, Birth defect, Psych disorder... That's it! Take your pick. Intersex represent a birth defect, not another gender in the binary. When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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@firstofawll A woman is an adult, human, female. That's a biological category, not a social construct. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. You're confusing gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament with gender, while simultaneously conflating biological sex with gender.
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@markusbaker1161 Blossom, is that you? :face-blue-smiling::face-turquoise-covering-eyes:
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@Infinite-ImprovementAlt An adult, human, female. 😏
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@Maksie0 Even more accurate men vs women
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@markusbaker1161 That's what I said-- men vs women
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@markusbaker1161 Those men are free to pretend they're women, and you are too. Your willingness to cast women's rights aside so men can objectify them is noted
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@markusbaker1161 If they don't need the recognition because they already have it, the insistence of preferred pronouns seems extremely odd -- shocker Men or women... by any other name are still men or women just the same. Like I said you're free to pretend that using a different name is somehow meaningful.
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@markusbaker1161 Evidence is still ZERO. You insist you can refute me, but your absence of proof suggests otherwise-- as I am still not yet refuted by you or anyone else-- doctors included
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@markusbaker1161 You're asserting that referring to trans-women as men is inappropriate, as if the trans distinction means they aren't men, so the onus is on you to prove it. You want a study that shows men aren't women? Try a basic 6th grade biology textbook
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@markusbaker1161 Evidence is still Z E R O, because there is none to support the claims that men can become something else other than men-- just by using a different name.
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@NB0605 There's no hate in recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim to be. It's just being observant of objective reality. As I see it, it seems like they're misgendering themselves
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Gender: There are 2, Male and female. Gender roles are social constructs-- Not gender, hence trans being a social construct-- making the statement 'trans women are women' absurd and removed from objective reality. They're men... It's really not complicated
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@technoloverish Nope. Too many still haven't figured out that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender, and they're conflating it
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How many kids have you raised, who've become well-adjusted, productive members of society??
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People who are in a dissociative state, are by definition delusional. What of it?
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No they aren't. A woman is an adult, human, female, and they aren't -- That
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@markusbaker1161 Nah... Not angry at all. Just observant of objective reality
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@SB-xl1ef The continued shadow banning and deleting of comments which crush this incoherent ideology, of the AI troll bots, and activists who can't handle having a genuine intellectual challenge to their narratives
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My issue is discerning reality vs their subjective, delusional self-identity which mocks it-- by suggesting we need to affirm their self-perceived identities. The answer is No... Just No They aren't 'trans' anything whatsoever. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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People are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament-- neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys-- and are incorrectly calling that gender
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@krystalshepherd4582 They're people with psych disorders. Their personalities reflect that
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@But...WhyTho The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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They're radical ideologues with mental disorders
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@Maksie0 Why? Normalizing their psych disorders seems irrational
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@Maksie0 Women are women-- regardless of how they self-identify, so using cis is redundant and none of anyone's concern but yours.
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@firstofawll Medical student? Then you should know that one's subjective identity doesn't invalidate their biology, and that the definition of a woman is an adult, human, female-- making being female a prerequisite to being a woman wth?
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Only 2 genders-- Male and Female. Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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Alternative facts? There are facts and there is fiction. Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@cyclicozone2072 E X A C T L Y Correct
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@johnnyvansguard869 These conversations need to be had within the confines of an asylum therapy session
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Is that conclusion of your designed to show that your shoe size dwarfs your IQ w/ that Intellectually vacant capacity for logic and reason?
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Free speech scares you? Interesting.
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@mariec3733 Then, quit your sniveling about preferred pronouns which aren't grounded in biological reality
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@markusbaker1161 So you keep saying. Making the point that trans is the social construct, which doesn't alter biology-- no doubt
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@Maksie0 No, for being a m0r0n, not for being trans
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'Trans' people are posers, and imposters posing as something they can never be in reality-- nothing more
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Gender, Gender Roles and Personality are not synonymous. All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, preferences, or costumes
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Because those people have a sewer-slide rate even after transition near 40%. Nearly 10x's higher than the norm
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@gretehomann7556 self-inflicted life cancellation. If I type the correct spelling, it gets censored/deleted
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@Maksie0 Says the fool who's confused about the difference between men and women
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@markusbaker1161 Those are women, call them whatever you like-- Still women
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They fail to recognize that you wouldn't use pronouns when talking directly to someone. You'd only use them when referring to another, while talking about them
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Here's a reality for you: Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue are people who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@MoonshineH No... A woman is an adult, human female-- and men who alter their appearance aren't that
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@Hotrodchef89 Because male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek if you want, and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon and if you think it does, you're delusional
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That condition of being male is fixed and permanent. They're merely caricatures of what they wish they were
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@But...WhyTho That's not a refutation. Have you also noticed that none have presented a refutation, and instead have resorted to hollow words resembling a virtue-free tantrum gone unchecked?
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Womanhood isn't a costume one can put on. You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, prescribe hormones, etc., and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon, and if you think it does-- You're Delusional. You can neuter your dog and make him wear a dress, and it does not make him a female dog. Just sayin...
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Low IQ, coupled with psych and emotional problems = Dismissed
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The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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@Liberty5024 Facts are awesome and stubborn things. The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@Emma-tx4sk trans-women are men
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@markusbaker1161 trans women, drag queens, and cross dressers are all men. Cope harder
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They fail to realize that the 1 thing that's required to be a woman is to actually be a female
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Both are men, portraying themselves as something they're not-- women
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@Maksie0 The concept of gender as something other than describing the 2 sexes was quite literally crafted out in the second half of 20th century by people like John Money and Simone de Beauvoir-- But you keep on believing your talking point is valid. It isn't. Look up the Etymology on the word gender, and it's clear that it wasn't used to describe a social construct. Gender noun 1. either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female: "a condition that affects people of both genders" 2. (in languages such as Latin, Greek, Russian, and German) each of the classes (typically masculine, feminine, common, neuter) of nouns and pronouns distinguished by the different inflections that they have and require in words syntactically associated with them.
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Rejection-- Get used to it.
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The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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The point is, people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. How is that not a delusional, dissociative state, by definition? One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament (neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), as if or as though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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That dude's shoe size dwarfs his IQ
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They're narcissists. That's just not who they are or how they roll
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, they were correct when they wrote he and himself, as there are No studies anywhere which prove trans-women aren't biologically male
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 @markusbaker1161 Prove they're women, and should be granted access to women's private spaces.
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Is there a middle ground between objective reality and the potential number of infinite, subjective individual claims of 'identity'-- which happen to to be objectively false? The inappropriate conflation of personality traits and temperament, neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys-- with gender, is causing a lot of confusion. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively, and male and female are in fact biological categories which are fixed and permanent. I posit that there isn't trans anything. You're still the same sex/gender prior to altering your appearance, as you are after, and if gender is fluid-- why the need to change?? It's like extreme LARPing/cosplay to people who recognize that you are not that which you claim to identify as and/or present yourself as.
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They're men, and have no business in women's bathrooms. Get Real
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@Maksie0 Clearly, that's wrong. The cases are established as a matter of fact
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Personality traits and temperament are different things than gender, and they're conflating them and acting as though they're synonymous-- and they're just not
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@Maksie0 If it were natural, they wouldn't need to alter their appearance at all.
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@trea9852 Gender isn't disconnected from biology. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. MANY, including you apparently-- are conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. The thing is, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and their natural body chemistry. Still men
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No, they believe they're talking to delusional people w/ mental disorders which are skewing their perception of reality
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@Madmaxw The delusions of those who operate in a dissociative state aren't limited to rational and reason, as they aren't founded in reality. They're gender pretenders with a sense of narcissism that's off the charts
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It's strange that people are confused about the differences between males and females
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@harambejr5935 You might want to look up the definition of that word. I don't think it means what you think it does. BTW, That's not any sort of refutation. You're going to have to do better than that.
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@albusdumdledore5919 They're confused about their own sex/gender, so it's not really a surprise is it?
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@conor.3875 Women are the standard, not the exception making the use of CIS irrelevant
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They also don't get to dictate how others perceive them
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@Maksie0 THAT's wrong. Women who are trans, are trans men. I can't believe you haven't updated your material yet
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@markusbaker1161 No, they're men playing dress up
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@markusbaker1161 Objective reality is not up for debate. If you want to pretend that those men in dresses are women-- go for it. They're still men, regardless of their efforts to alter their appearance
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@champigranja1179 That dude isn't a she or a her, he's a him and always will be
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@Maksie0 Not even close.
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@Maksie0 sux2bu. You seem to be under the impression that your desires create an obligation to comply. They don't
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@Yeltnerb 1 They're males... They aren't trans anything.
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@DefiledDame If you can't accept yourself for what you actually are, I refuse to accept you for what you actually aren't. They are misgendering themselves, and are inappropriately using pronouns.
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@Maksie0 No, it is not
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@MoonshineH You say that as if it's relevant in some way
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They teach their kids to use firearms properly, to wait to have children until they're married, and tend to have their insurance handled without tax payer subsidies. What are you talking about? The point here is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@Maksie0 Nope, that's still totally wrong
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Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@Maksie0 One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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No, just No
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@Maksie0 Borders exist for a reason
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*Him
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@tonythomas3343 I hear you, but dude is still a dude-- and nothing is going to change that. That fool could have a surgeon alter their appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek and that isn't going to make them a real Klingon and the fact that they think it will proves they're delusional
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@chantel01c Trans women are not women, they're men. Looks like the narrative is attempting to categorize women as a social construct and they haven't made any coherent case yet-- to support that statement or to explain the logic behind it.
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@markusbaker1161 It doesn't matter... You wrote it. When questioned about it, you refused to explain the lack of logic behind your endorsement. When corrected, regarding the law, when given the legal definition of a woman YOU ignored it. When pointed out that science distinguishes the differences between the sexes, you switch to talking about social constructs, insisting that women are a social construct. That is anti-science dear. The problem you have is you and the narratives you present are wrong, and you haven't attempted to make it make sense-- when challenged on your beliefs.
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I heard that the most difficult part of the procedure was having his brain removed
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@firstofawll evidence??
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@murakami3602 Certainly it is one of their most important roles, for what ought to be obvious reason. You tell me, why should a male, regardless of their subjective identity-- be granted access to women's private spaces like dressing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, sports teams or prisons?
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@Maksie0 It's not for you to approve what a she finds offensive, as if she owes you an explanation that suites your standards. Besides, there's only one kind of woman and they're all born females. There's just no getting round that-- which makes the use of cis entirely irrelevant.
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@crystalcole2674 You're welcome. That fool is a straight clown, trans-activist troll who fails to comprehend that the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female
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@Maksie0 Being female is essential for womanhood
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@TallisKeeton The trans-activist narrative and ideology. Is just devoid of integrity.
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@TallisKeeton It's not true. They're wrong
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@oyleday0195 That "Disconnect" and acting upon it literally means they're trying to be something they're not
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@Maksie0 Since he was born male, how do you figure-- since ALL women are born female, without exception???
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@travisbrown6595 You're Welcome! Maksie0 is an activist f00l
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@travisbrown6595 Likely BOTH
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That dude is closer to an orc than a woman
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@MrNess-je5bf No, ALL women are born female. That dude wasn't
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I'm not going to ignore what I can observe with my own eyes, and promote make believe, or cater to feelings-- by pretending that the identity of people who identify as something they're not in reality, is valid. They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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Delusional
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@faunaohneflora No-- trans women is a word used to describe men who wish they were women, so dress and act like it. Still Men
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@faunaohneflora No one cares about your subjective identity, or feelings-- counter to reality.
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@Maksie0 Stop it... There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female-- making using the cis distinction useless and thoroughly irrelevant.
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@markusbaker1161 No trace of an explanation of why you believe what you assert they conclude to be true and accurate, or to prove what I said to be inaccurate, or to address their peers who don't agree with their position-- That's certain. Those hacks you refer to as experts are challenged by their peers in the medical community, who take issue with the ethics, treatment protocols and outcomes of those who you put your faith in. I'm done with you
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@markusbaker1161 You said trans women are women. Looks like you're saying women are a social construct, and I wouldn't put it past you dear-- you haven't made any coherent case yet-- to support that statement or to explain the logic behind it.
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What rights?
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How many kids have you raised, who've become happy, well-adjusted, productive members of society?
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You definitely do not. Being observant, I recognize that they are not that which claim to be
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They're men who are merely caricatures of what they wish they were
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@faisalkhan786fk I recognize that there have always been a majority of people with average IQ's, and a LOT of people even less capable than that then there are-- smart people, couple that with a sense of moral bankruptcy which is wokeism, and you have the recipe for the self-termination rate that we see, by that particular demographic
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@briannachilders772 Not as far as I'm concerned, and I'm not alone in that assessment. You fail to persuade
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And what is preventing them from establishing their own teams and leagues? Answer: Nothing whatsoever
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There are no 'trans' ANYTHING. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're LARPing at BEST
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@ItsSchwifty There's male and female and changing your face and clothes doesn't alter that state
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@frwful Just sayin... They're men who are merely caricatures of what they wish they were, and can never be
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@nothanks1239 LOL Fair enough
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i accept that there are males and females and that condition is fixed and permanent. There are birth defects and various psych disorders which affects minorities of both segments. Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will claim to be women. They aren't 'Trans' ANYTHING. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance-- as they are after
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Have you ever heard of a trans intersex person? Me neither. They've gotten it totally wrong on gender. Gender (There are 2) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Then, they inappropriately conflate gender, personality traits and temperament-- as though they're synonymous and they are not. They should learn the differences. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate male and female. Then, they conflate men and women. It's totally incoherent nonsense that they're peddling
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When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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@suchbolo5742 No they can't. The most feminine of things is the ability to give birth to new life
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@suchbolo5742 Yes, it is; Only females can give birth. Gender and sex aren't disconnected. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are conflating gender and gender roles. There are too many who are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender, as though they're synonymous-- and they are not. Hope that clarifies things for you
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition? and why then, are they attempting to normalize it and have it considered "rational"?
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Conversation Topic: Only 2 genders-- Male and Female. Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Agree? Why? Disagree? Why? Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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🎯 Bullseye. 100% Correct. They're men. They aren't trans anything
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@Maksie0 Cis/trans, as best as I can tell, are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are. ALL women are born female, and there are exactly ZERO exceptions Why should all of society be required to participate in the LARP and cosplay as a matter of law, counter to objective reality??? To suggest such a thing seems like the height of arrogance and narcissism
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@catorimazique8659 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Gender and sex are not disconnected. They're intrinsically linked. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after. They're LARPing at BEST
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Ethertask Sebastian I'm arguing they aren't either, since from the beginning of time a woman is known as an adult, human, female.
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@becky14 There aren't ANY facts which care about your feelings. The prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female and trans women are not that. Are you able to cite any evidence that shows trans women are not biological men? I see them as synonymous
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@AFCAglory Only the m0r0ns who have difficulty deciphering the differences between men and women
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@Maksie0 I wouldn't wish that sort of psych disorder on anyone either
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@Maksie0 No... YOU are. Sex and gender are Not disconnected. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. There's no such thing as trans ANYTHING. People are born male or female and minority segments of each are born w/ birth defects and psych disorders-- some w/ both. They're the same sex prior to having their appearance altered as they are after. Get a Clue
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Need asylums
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@ald6228 In order to correctly refer to someone as she, they must be female-- and those dudes aren't.
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No
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@Maksie0 Clown... There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making cis ridiculous, irrelevant and useless. Your terminology is rejected
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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Not as far as I'm concerned, they aren't
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There are NO "True" 'trans' people. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after
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Yes, it's easier to fool people then to convince them they've been deceived
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@miraislam5976 Have you ever heard of an intersex trans person? Me neither
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@jynxkidd2204 Hey kid, these dudes like Blossom are the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not.
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@Maksie0 You seem unfamiliar with the concept of objective reality and truth. That sound you're hearing is the sound of men and women everywhere rejecting your w0ke nonsense. You don't have to believe me-- Ask Budweiser and Target
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@Maksie0 Figure out what a woman is 1st, before insisting on being misgendered as a woman.
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@Maksie0 Try to make a coherent argument for a change. There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ll born female, making the use of 'cis' totally irrelevant and useless
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@yellowtaipan-g3t The catalog of videos suggests an agenda is more likely. I'm not going to ignore what I can observe with my own eyes, and promote make believe, or cater to feelings by pretending that the identity of people who identify as something they're not in reality, are somehow valid. They're still men, or women-- respectively Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, parody of female behavior or personality traits.
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That dude is unhinged from reality
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@Maksie0 If You want to integrate into society-- then remember that it's YOU, who needs to adapt, not the majority who reject your LARP and cosplay. To insist that society must play along with your counter-culture position-- makes you seem arrogant, narcissistic, self-entitled and ridiculous. You're not the center of the universe and the world isn't going to reorganize itself to accommodate your subjective feelings, contrary to objective reality. You need to develop better coping mechanisms to deal with adversity, because not everyone is going to like you, or be accommodating.
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Arguing with those idiots is like running a race in the special olympics-- even if you win-- you're still reeee-- tarded
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Calling men 'trans women', then calling them women, and calling women 'cis women' and 'trans men'... no wonder they're so confused. They seem to have convinced themselves that gender, gender roles and personality traits and temperament are synonymous and that social constructs alter biology. How is that rational?
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@neobliviscarisa650 Don't conflate social constructs with biology, which is what is being done when they say, trans women are women. It's patently absurd and totally incorrect. Women aren't a social construct; trans however, IS. Those are men Your cult narrative is rejected.
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Exactly Correct. Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@mariec3733 Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@mariec3733 Talking nonsense over and over, like you do-- doesn't establish truth. Why do you dismiss the opposing medical experts and professional's assessment and their reasoning?
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@MrMamapoto The trans ideology is what's wrong w/ Blossom too
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@hell0daisy193 When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect, Psych Disorder... That's it, so take your pick. Oh, and No, intersex isn't another gender in the binary, it's a birth defect
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@brianwebberable Respect is earned, and is reserved for that which is actually respectable... It's not owed There is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female-- those dudes weren't, and aren't any kind of women.
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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"It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell When people conflate science and science-fiction they create room for intentional confusion, leaving those who are confused without any clarity
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@Maksie0 Seethe harder
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Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspect of being male or female, respectively. The thing is, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and their natural body chemistry. Still men
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Intersex is a birth defect, where the individual has organs of both sexes male & female (Often non-functional) and they do not present another sex in the binary, and for that reason-- they don't invalidate the binary at all. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), with gender.
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@GratsielaLily Yet, you keep incorrectly referring to him as 'she' and 'her'.
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It already exists. It's called the 'Men's room'
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@markusbaker1161 I never made any such attempt. Your feelings couldn't be any less relevant, as far as I'm concerned. It appears that you're playing the part of an agitator, who's irritated that I'm not upset, but all you've done is establish your ignorance and preference to argue. I am correct, and stand unrefuted, so there's nothing for me to be upset about. You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and you've established even less, but for your preference to argue. I'm happy to argue for sport, though-- I recommend being relevant.
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@firstofawll Evidence? Gender: There are 2, Male and female. Gender roles are social constructs-- Not gender, hence trans being a social construct-- making the statement 'trans women are women' absurd and removed from objective reality. They're men
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@Maksie0 How is it not-- if they tell you they find it offensive, and you ignore it then continue to do it?
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Bathrooms are designed around biology, not identity
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@markusbaker1161 Urinals are utilized to accommodate more men in less space, for specifically that reason, such as with stadiums, convention centers, etc. I don't see why men who present as women or say they identify as women should be granted access to women's spaces and vice versa.
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@gudemeneely You seem to be conflating personality traits and temperament with gender and gender roles as though they're synonymous and they are not.
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@markusbaker1161 I'm retired, financially independent and am exactly where I planned to be. What are you talking about?
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@Maksie0 phobia... ROFL Observing that they are not that which they present themselves as has nothing to do with one's feelings about the observation. Get Real
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Could you be a bit more vague please?
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Putting up with men portraying themselves as women, telling you how it is to be women-- while conveniently ignoring your rights???
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@markusbaker1161 While perhaps interesting to you, they are not women, and never will be-- And That point contention which revolves around biology, seems to elude your cognitive capacity.
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@markusbaker1161 You brought it up. Science has established the difference between males and females. If a male feels uncomfortable being a male and wants to pretend to be a female-- that's fine, but that doesn't make them females and it doesn't mean they should be granted access to women's private spaces. Too many are inappropriately and incorrectly conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence butch females, effeminate males and tomboys) with gender, as though they're synonymous-- and they are not.
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@markusbaker1161 :face-green-smiling: The "Fact" that some men identify as something other than men (for whatever reason) doesn't make them women. Being granted access to women's private spaces just infringes on women's rights to privacy-- and it is totally unjustified. What the rational behind that? It's the height of misogyny
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@markusbaker1161 The biological science is already established, validating my statements. The psych science validates my statements as well. Dissociative disorders are clearly defined as those involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self. 😏😮🧐
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That dude is intellectually bankrupt
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Because they're manufacturing themselves to be caricatures of real women
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I see it like they're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. I see them as LARPing
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That dude is unhinged from reality
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@KMFWR Exactly correct
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@Maksie0 The syndrome affects about 1 in every 4,500 newborn girls. The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule-- they prove the rule.
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@Maksie0 Not true at all. Gender and sex aren't disconnected, and too many, including you are failing to realize that gender isn't the social construct, rather gender roles are the construct-- and so too are trans-cultists a construct, based in lunacy. Cope Harder
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@mariec3733 But it is... All that's possible is to alter their appearance. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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Adult, female, human-- just to be precise. ;) ex. An adult, female shark is not-- a woman
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@Maksie0 Intersex isn't another gender in the binary. It's a birth defect
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@thespudtato6009 Your analytical deficit and major reading comprehension fail is showing
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@thespudtato6009 You didn't ask one
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@thespudtato6009 A woman is an adult, human, female and that condition is biological, and permanent.
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That dude is unhinged
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Is it not the trans-activists who insisting that others participate in their LARP and cosplay by insisting that people deny objective reality and use preferred pronouns contrary to objective reality? I mean... C'mon
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Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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Your mind is so open, your brain fell out. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female
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@Maksie0 It's a social construct. Of course, it's a choice to alter one's appearance
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@markusbaker1161 You failed to prove your claim. You've certainly not proven anything I've written to be false or inaccurate. The 'because you said so' standard is rejected
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Men vs Women
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Understatement of the year
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I said that. The sound of women and men rejecting the trans ideology, and terminology for the nonsense that it is is growing to be deafening. Just ask Bud light
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I don't have faith that he has the intellectual capacity to decipher reality from fantasy
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@markusbaker1161 Trans being the construct... based in fantasy That's what
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@markusbaker1161 Not me. They're the ones saying gender is merely a social construct. I know that gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, and that male and female are fixed and permanent biological categories.
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@markusbaker1161 There's no hate involved in recognizing that they aren't that which they claim to be-- it's just being observant. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. Cope Harder
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They do-- it's called the men's room ;)
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They are quite literally not 'trans' ANYTHING. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after.
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Weird... There are only males and females. I don't know how that can be confusing to anyone. The prerequisite to being a female is being born female and those dudes weren't. A dude in a dress and makeup doesn't make him a woman
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Where do they exist, besides in the Twilight Zone?
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Cry harder. No one is denying anyone's existence. The issue is denying that they are that which they claim to be. Try to focus
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That dude is unhinged from reality and isn't any kind of 'she'. There's only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female
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@Maksie0 Not about the fact that trans women are men
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@markusbaker1161 According to what source. I would argue that it's ONLY a valid claim if it is a fact
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@markusbaker1161 So you say, however; science recognizes the fact that all mammals are male and/or female, while medicine acknowledges the differences between the sexes, and the Black's Law dictionary defines a woman as an adult, human female.
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@elenawilliams32 transgender women are men
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@Maksie0 'Cisgender' is a cult term used to pretend that there's another kind of woman other than those born female--BUT, there isn't. ALL women are born female. There are exactly ZERO exceptions
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@edgar5814 LARPing at BEST
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You seem to have difficulty discerning the difference between fantasy and reality
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@knithearts There's no hate involved in recognizing that people are not that which they claim to be. It just makes me observant When your feelings are easily hurt, just cope harder. The world doesn't give a crap about you or your feelings. It will be here long after you're gone.
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@knithearts Calm down. Quit pretending you don't know how an app notification works. I see a notification, and I've responded. No worries. Not really a surprise. YOU, and those on your side of the argument have failed to persuade or refute anything I've written. Seems to me like I'm watching the cognitive dissonance short-circuit your thinking process and/or I'm exposing the shallow depth of the narratives which I challenge-- evidenced by no one actually refuting ANYTHING I've written or answering anything I've asked. The problem I find with the virtue signaling, is the total absence of any actual virtue in any of the unhinged claims the advocates are making. Like I said, If the validity of one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@Maksie0 The logic it takes to say that someone who has a host of other behavioral/mental disorders (as nearly all dealing with transgenderism do) and is willing to mutilate themselves in irreversible fashion to achieve a status wherein they're still dozens of times more likely to commit sui**de ISN'T mental illness, is amazingly twisted. Insert any other condition and any other incessant desire to self-harm and there would be no dispute whatsoever.
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Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then your identity is not valid.
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@Bound2chaos2 If it was a song, It'd be called the Groomer's Shuffle
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@Maksie0 It's a slur, as the only kind of woman is born female, making the use of cis entirely ridiculous
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@mariec3733 IF they're separate then you acknowledge that trans women aren't biological women-- they're still biological men-- how do you justify ignoring women's rights to privacy by granting men access to their private spaces??
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1. There's nothing phobic about recognizing that they are not that which they claim. That just makes people, observant of objective reality. 2. They can dress up perversity as diversity, but they're only fooling themselves, if they think their self perceived fantasy is representative of reality-- in ANY way. 3. When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. 4. Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. 5. They're still the same sex and gender prior to surgery, as they are after surgery. 6. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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2 genders... That all. They're not "trans" anything. Still Human, Still Male or Female as they were when they were born, respectively -- just what amounts to an elaborate disguise in the gender binary-- more akin to a drag queen
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Their 'truth' is an illusion and isn't based in reality-- making it a lie. They're imposters
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@Maksie0 What's your point?
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@jupiterfox7683 Tolerance?? I tolerate them. I just refuse to participate in their delusion, by validating their caricature of a persona,as though it's based in reality
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@haunteddreams7856 Their 'truth' is an illusion and isn't based in reality, making it a lie. They're imposters
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That is the root character trait of their existence
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@markusbaker1161 Guess? You do a lot of that, and then convince yourself that your 'guesses' are fact based, and correct. LOL The only ones fooled into thinking your talking points have merit, is you and yours-- the vast vast minority-- that you are
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That dude is a dude, and will always be a dude
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@mariec3733 The 'norm'. You act as though society, and the roles men and women play in it hasn't already been established for millennia.
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@markusbaker1161 You're incorrectly and inappropriately mistaking observations of comments by women, with opinions about their comments-- again.
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@Maksie0 It denigrates real women, by suggesting that there is another kind of woman, other than those born female-- And there isn't
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Sure there is. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. People are male or female. They both have segments which present w/ birth defects and others with various psych disorders, some w/ both. They aren't trans ANYTHING. They're the same sex/gender prior to surgery altering their appearance and chemistry, as they are after. All they're doing is altering their appearance.
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That's the thing with objective reality... It's how science works. The confusion of those who mistake fact from fiction, and fantasy from reality doesn't obligate the world to deny objective reality, or to participate in their subjective LARP and/or cosplay, as though it's based in objective reality.
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@N8Dulcimer I just laugh at your confused, indoctrination. You look and sound ridiculous. There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are
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@Maksie0 They're still men, and suggesting otherwise is what's absurd. They are not women and discerning fact from fantasy isn't being phobic.
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@markusbaker1161 You accusing me of doing what you are doing does not withstanding scrutiny. Your obsession with allowing men into women's spaces, because you switch calling men to calling them trans-- is totally absurd.
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@markusbaker1161 Your advocacy that men who identify as women ARE women-- looks rather obsessive to me. BTW, They're not Either way, neither your acceptance, agreement nor admission is required.
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@markusbaker1161 You can refer to them as cupcake if you so choose; They're still men who've merely altered their appearance. You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and have not justified in any way-- allowing men to infiltrate women's private places, because of their subjective identity claims. Why do you hate, and disrespect women so much?
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They're Not trans ANYTHING. Still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are-- after they alter their appearance.
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@Milo-nr9kc So have many others. Neither you nor anyone else have refuted it. The thing is, the world doesn't give a crap about your feelings. It will be here long after you're gone, so if your feelings are easily hurt-- Cope Harder! Life's not fair
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@Milo-nr9kc Wrong guy. That was the OP. I have NEVER said that. For people who, according to you-- don't have hurt feelings, you all sure do a lot of whining as though you do. BTW, there's no hatred involved in recognizing that they are not that which they claim to be. It's just being observant of objective reality. Again, that wasn't a refutation.
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@Milo-nr9kc I'm not acting. You've refuted nothing about anything I've written, and neither has anyone else. Mainly because, I am correct-- and my assessment of the ideological narratives being incoherent, at BEST, is obvious to those with a functioning prefrontal cortex and an IQ above an Arctic room temperature. Those for whom you advocate, expect the world to perceive them as they perceive themselves, contrary to objective reality. How is that not a dissociative state illustrating delusion??? 🦗🦗🦗
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@Maksie0 trans-women are men-- so obviously not
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@markusbaker1161 So? That doesn't make them something other than men, and you seem to take issue with that. Gender and sex aren't disconnected. They're intrinsically linked. Gender isn't a social construct. Gender refers to the sex assigned/observed at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Gender roles are the social construct.
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Yup. The problem with the trans activist ideological narratives is that life is based in objective reality, and the vast majority of people don't have difficulty deciphering the differences between reality and the trans imagination. Gender (There are only 2 male/female). Too many conflate gender with personality (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tom boys), and with gender roles (Which vary from culture to culture, country to country, and society to society and without exception they ALL relate to the roles of males and females in those cultures, societies, and countries which all have long-established cultural norms, as though they're all synonymous-- and they are not. What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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@Maksie0 Evidence?
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Cry harder... There are males and females... That's it. There is no trans. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after. Same
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@Maksie0 You try so hard to avoid the truth that men can't become women. Cope Harder
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@dowon_btw Transphobic is an activist cult term used to distract, and shut down scrutiny, which exposes the incoherent nonsense they are selling
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@hedidujmovic83 How about, No. First of all respect is earned. Secondly it's reserved for that which is actually respectable. There is only one kind of woman and that requires being born female-- and that dude wasn't
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100% correct
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It's not trans women r@ping and impregnating girls in the restrooms, showers, prisons, etc.??? When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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Because both are men portraying something they're not-- ie. women
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Because they're actively promoting trans activism and that dude is an agent provocateur
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@Maksie0 You appear to be under the impression that your analysis and conclusions are noteworthy, and have some credibility. That's wrong. You've established your own irrelevance, and I've exposed it. Your absence of integrity, continually evading answering questions, and absence of anything even remotely resembling a coherent argument-- is uncanny, Blossom. Try decaf
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All of society doesn't need to recalibrate itself because of the confusion of a vast vast minority of the population. Those people need to adapt to society. You have the relationship inverted
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@mariec3733 The women who are being called cis by trans women against their will and having their privacy encroached on against their will believe their considerations matter too, might wonder why they don't get that same consideration-- and note that it's the height of misogyny to have those men mansplaining what it is to be a woman to women
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@Tylerd838 Contrary to people who chop off body parts and contend that it makes them the opposite sex/gender? Ok
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Transitioning into what amounts to nothing other than a different looking version of themselves-- Still the Same sex as before, still the same gender as before, that lead them to seek altering their appearance in the 1st place. To me, it amounts to an elaborate cosplay experiment, with people who have psych disorders. How is it not??
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Science and medicine has established that all mammals are male or female, respectively-- and that status is fixed and permanent. Black’s Law Dictionary defines woman as “an adult female human being.” Changing what they call these men doesn't alter reality WTF is confusing these people's perception of reality?
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@Maksie0 It's a video about trans people. WTF is your malfunction, besides the inability to be relevant, and assimilate relevant information to course correct your thinking? That's sort of the opposite of intelligence
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@mariec3733 The definition I use states that "gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female respectively." SO-- as you point out it does 'also' address the social aspects of being male and female, however; the established social norms, cross-culturally have been long established, and if choosing to go with by your definition-- it doesn't alter the fact that males and females are a biological category which are fixed and permanent, making the statement 'trans women are women' patently absurd and false.
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@mariec3733 IF gender is a mere social construct, as you suggest-- and disconnected from biology (I disagree), then transgender is a mere social construct, which in NO WAY justifies those men violating women's private spaces such as dressing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, sports teams or prisons, if it has NOTHING to do with biology. Make it make sense
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@Maksie0 The only kind of woman were all born female, and none of those dudes were. Cope and seethe harder
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@Maksie0 No, that they're not normally developed. Try to keep up
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@Maksie0 * He
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Being Female is essential to womanhood
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100% Agree
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Trans women are men with issues, wishing they were women engaging in cosplay and LARP
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@Maksie0 No, trans women is a term used to describe Men with issues. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female
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@markusbaker1161 He says, while advocating for men to step on women's rights to privacy. Have you always been tone deaf?
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That dude is extraordinarily confused, or he's a paid agitator-- maybe both. Either way, he's only a caricature of what he wishes he was and will never be.
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@Maksie0 What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, costumes, or preferences. That you/they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's your/their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you/they wished they were.
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Cope and seethe harder
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@roocheese4472 Male / Female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Once a male, always a male. If their identity requires me or anyone else to deny objective reality, and my participation in their cosplay and LARPing, using their preferred pronouns etc... Too bad, so sad-- that identity is not valid
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@rudra7615 Bullseye
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@ItsSchwifty You've refuted nothing and aren't very persuasive. Do Better
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Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men Gender addresses the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female. It appears that many others are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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She? LOL Not hardly. If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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@CreativeUsernameEh Not much of a refutation
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They're not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier. Regardless of the facts, their irrational thought process doesn't afford them the capacity to come to intelligent conclusions.
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If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access to female's private spaces like prisons, sports teams, locker rooms and restrooms?
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@dutchdna The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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@Milo-nr9kc There's no hate involved in recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim to be. It's just being observant of objective reality. A dude chopping off body parts doesn't make them a woman. It makes them a mere caricature. They can have a surgeon alter their appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek if they want to, but those who believe that it makes them an actual Klingon are suffering from a dissociative condition and are delusional. Personality traits and temperament are different things than gender, and they're conflating them and acting as though they're synonymous-- and they're just not
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@sanicspeed1672 Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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Not unusual for people with emotional issues and psych problems
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@Maksie0 Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender.
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Yet, the stats of those who identify as 'trans' have a self-termination rate almost 10x's higher than the average-- even after transition, indicating the opposite of your claim is true, and illustrating that the treatment is not very effective AT ALL
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@markusbaker1161 Feel free to tell yourself whatever you wish... What you're referring to as "transgender women", are men--by any other name, still men. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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@Random-sk6hm You've refuted nothing whatsoever. Look, it's XX, XY, Birth defect... That's it! Saying that science says otherwise, just doesn't cut it. The 'because you said so' has been issued exactly ZERO credibility.
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Honest?? That dude is unhinged from reality. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Gender and Personality-- They haven't learned the difference. There's only one kind of woman, and they are all born females, so... using the cis prefix is totally redundant and unnecessary. The entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh There are males and females. That's it! Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct; She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals specifically humans. Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1. The body and brain develop & grow together -> One simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2. Hating a part of their body so much that they opt to cut it off, despite it functioning properly-- is a mental illness.
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@mariec3733 That's not correct, but even if it were true, gender doesn't invalidate biology-- so why should those men being referred to as trans women, be granted access to women's private spaces?
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Incorrect. They see them as people w/ psych issues who are not that which they claim to be
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders -- who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@ItsSchwifty I haven't been refuted by you or anyone else here, mainly because I'm correct-- and your narrative doesn't withstand scrutiny
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is the construct, based in fantasy. Deal with it and cope harder. There's no hate in recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim; it just makes me observant
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Your labels are meaningless. There's nothing phobic about recognizing that you are not that which you claim to be-- it just makes one observant recognizing that you're FOS
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@nerd5 Nope! Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth (of which there are only 2) and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect, Psych Disorders. That's it! Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent
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@nerd5 You and MANY others are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) with 'Gender'
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@ElanaVital83 Yes, that dudes shoe size dwarfs his IQ
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Drag queens, cross dressers, and trans women all have something in common-- They're all men. It's unadulterated misogyny. Those are men, they will always be men. Their imaginations and subjective personality traits and temperament don't change the fact that those trans women aren't trans anything-- They're men
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@mariec3733 You're the one who keeps claiming that sex and gender are different. That you don't comprehend that it invalidates your attempt to justify the incoherent narrative you've been peddling-- that trans women are women-- being that they're men, isn't a surprise.
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@mariec3733 You're peddling their talking points. If you can't articulate why you think their narratives are correct-- you're a sheep
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:face-turquoise-drinking-coffee:🤕😵🥴😵‍💫🤤 Gaslight Harder
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@markusbaker1161 It's merely definition, not a diagnosis. Try to focus
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Nope, Sorry... Putting shoes and a dress on a monkey doesn't make it a woman either
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@Maksie0 The prerequisite to becoming a woman is-- being born female, and trans-women aren't that. They're men, and are in no way entitled to access to women's private spaces. No doubt that Your reaction to the truth is to, "Just put your fingers in your ears and bury your head in the sand".
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@markusbaker1161 NEWSFLASH: That biological category is fixed and permanent. You can call a banana a peach, and that doesn't make it a peach... it's still a banana. You seem to have a vested interest in suggesting that men, when presenting as women-- should be granted access to women's spaces and that women should be okay with that.
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@markusbaker1161 Suggesting that men, when presenting as women, regardless of whether or not they suffer with gender dysphoria-- should be granted access to women's spaces and that women should be okay with that- doesn't look like respecting women's rights to privacy to me
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@Maksie0 No, it doesn't
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@msharp6887 Yes, it's a umbrella term referring to a genetic birth defect. It's also unrelated to gender dysphoria, and extremely rare
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@Maksie0 Nobody cares about your opinion. Now you know
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@Maksie0 You're still trying to look like you're trying to be provocative and antagonistic, to satisfy an anti-social, attention-seeking disorder. smh They're men is a dress-- Not women. It's just as simple as that. Their claimed identities of being women, don't make them women. Those who identify as transgender are still men in cosplay, they're not any kind of woman. Your suggestion otherwise doesn't invalidate reality. They're still men, and suggesting otherwise is what's absurd. They are not women, and shouldn't be infiltrating women's spaces like restrooms, sports teams, locker rooms or in prisons, because they're Men
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@Maksie0 No, a woman is an adult, human, female-- and womanhood isn't a costume which men can put on and become women. smh You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and have not justified allowing men to infiltrate women's private places, like locker rooms, sports teams, restrooms, and prisons, because of their subjective identity claims. Why do you hate, and disrespect women so much?
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@Maksie0 Get a helmet
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@markusbaker1161 You seem triggered. Is it because you've been unable to refute any of my comments? Cope Harder
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Because their attempt to present as women doesn't fool anyone
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HA... Delusional Men vs Women
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@saidnaitsalh3251 Thank You! That fool is an activist troll
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@Maksie0 They're saying trans women are not women, and they aren't. The prerequisite to becoming a woman is-- being born female, and trans-women aren't that. They're men and are in no way entitled to access to women's private spaces
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@markusbaker1161 Suggesting that men, when presenting as women, regardless of whether or not they suffer with gender dysphoria-- should be granted access to women's spaces and that women should be okay with that- doesn't look like respecting women's rights to privacy to me
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@markusbaker1161 You're not respecting women's rights to privacy to me, when you say that trans-women aka Men by non-cult followers should be allowed in women's spaces
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@markusbaker1161 You have no respect for women, facts nor truth. I don't care about your opinion or your feelings. The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@markusbaker1161 The majority of comments here reject your claims, and ideology Blossom. Cope harder I appreciate the opportunity to refute your inane commentary, so that others who are interested can utilize the interactions and counter-arguments to the activist narratives-- for themselves in the future
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@markusbaker1161 Your ever present anti-woman, anti-social, 'Look at me' arguments, and comments stating that you don't care about opinions that aren't rooted in confirmation bias-- suggest otherwise. You seem just as -- T r i g g e r e d, as you did on the debate panel. Shocker...:text-green-game-over:
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@markusbaker1161 I enjoy giving you the opportunity to expose yourself as an activist troll, and having you prove me correct-- Time and time again... :face-green-smiling::face-blue-smiling:🤣😂
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@markusbaker1161 Uh huh... :text-green-game-over:
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@markusbaker1161 Thanks for proving my point
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@markusbaker1161 That over-used accusation is used so often, it lacks any depth of meaning any more, due to being employed against anything which challenges the cult of trans--activist ideology or it's claims. Empathy? I have empathy for the women who's private spaces are being encroached upon by men--- based on nothing more than their subjective claims. It's totally asinine
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@markusbaker1161 blah, blah, blah... It's meaningless to me
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@markusbaker1161 Is that why you whinge when your subjective pronouns are ignored and rejected with impunity?
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100% correct. Though-- they aren't trans anything. They're still the same sex/gender prior to surgery and hormones as they are after
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That dude altering his appearance is merely a caricature of a woman. Still a dude
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@markusbaker1161 Feel free to lie to yourself, and cling to your ignorance. You could go to a surgeon and alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek if you wish-- and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon-- and if you think it does-- you're delusional. The same applies for men who alter their appearance. It doesn't make them women
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An adult, human, female
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If your identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must perceive you as you perceive yourself-- counter to reality, your subjective identity is invalid
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@markusbaker1161 Your absence of integrity, evading answering questions, and no evidence whatsoever of a coherent argument anywhere to be found-- is uncanny. You argue for argument's sake. Your agenda is twisted. I claim, they aren't that which they present themselves as, and you've not presented a rebuttal that withstands even a minimal level of scrutiny
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@markusbaker1161 The evidence is the content of the video itself, and it's comment section exposes you for what you are. You're welcome
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@lpssunny12 They're gender pretenders. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@fauzansalman2574 *His
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They're confused and they don't realize that a woman is an adult, human, female. They inappropriately believe if they chop off body parts and dress and act a certain way because of how they 'Feel' it defines biology somehow
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@Maksie0 Calling those men something else, doesn't make them something else. They're still men, regardless of their attire.
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Developmental sex disorders aren't evidence of another sex invalidating the binary of all mammalian species. Gender is not disconnected from biology. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There are people and they are males and females and there are segments of both which present with various birth defects, psych disorders, and some with both-- none of which are evidence of other genders invalidating the binary. It's XX (Female), XY (Male), and a variety of Birth defects/disorders within segments of each ... neither of which display sex organs other than that found in the binary. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. Cope Harder
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@bleachedout805 A woman is an adult, human, female. Now, You know
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Very Islamophobic of you
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@gingerdude A 'normal' trans person is a conflict in terms
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@gingerdude The problem with affirmation-based treatment protocols is the extraordinarily higher than the general population rate of self-deletion, at around 40%-- that occurs despite the 'treatment', showing it not to be justifiable as efficacious at all. If 4 out of 10 parachutes malfunctioned, smart people wouldn't go skydiving, and those who did and went splat wouldn't be a surprise to those who tried to tell them the odds are horrendous
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@conor.3875 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the use of cis entirely useless and irrelevant
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@Maksie0 What''s the problem with respecting her preference? There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- which makes using the 'cis' distinction irrelevant and useless
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The subjective identity of people w/ psych disorders, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@markusbaker1161 Your failure to recognize facts is a YOU problem. I'm blocking you now, due to your lack of integrity and relevance. Buh Bye
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@Maksie0 2 genders, male and female. Trans isn't a thing. Still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance and chemistry-- as they are after. This has already been explained to you. I find it odd that people argue about needing surgery, to "Be who they really are"
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They're not women at all
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@Maksie0 You're in for a big surprise
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@Maksie0 Get a grip... Being Female is essential to womanhood. 1. How are those-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? 2. Why should those men be granted access to women's private spaces?
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@markusbaker1161 You're going incognito? I don't blame you after that horrendous appearance in the video, making a total fool of yourself
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It's redundant. fyi-- Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people-- who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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They say that gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology. If that were the case, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms? The fail to realize that the 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female.
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@Maksie0 The suic**e rate shows that treatment success to be Horrendously ineffective
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@markusbaker1161 You said you don't care and won't read my comments, so save it
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@Maksie0 No, That's wrong.They're men playing dress up.
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That sound you're hearing is the sound of men and women everywhere rejecting your w0ke nonsense. You don't have to believe me-- Ask Budweiser and Target
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One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@Maksie0 No, they're men with a quirky fashion sense
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@markusbaker1161 You can call them trans-werewolves if you want-- still men. The 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female, and they aren't that. They're men in a dress
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@markusbaker1161 Still men regardless of their dissociative states or claims to the contrary
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@markusbaker1161 They're men. Not women. Cry harder
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@markusbaker1161 Like I said, you can rename anything, and it doesn't transform the anything into something else. The only thing that changes is the name you're using. Your failure to comprehend that basic logic is a YOU problem. Get your 15th Booster
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@markusbaker1161 No, they aren't. It appears you are the one that doesn't care about definitions, as your obstinate defiance persists even in the presence of those definitions which you admit suit my agenda. The truth is that there are males and females and that status is fixed and permanent. One's feelings about one's biology doesn't change it
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@Domino454545 There's no getting upset, or hate involved in recognizing that someone is not that which they claim to be. It's a matter of being observant of reality. Respect is reserved for that which is respectable and it's earned-- and the narrative that trans women are women-- is just wrong/incorrect, and so isn't a matter that falls into the respectable category. Because you're a male or a female doesn't by default, in and of itself earn respect. I wouldn't go out of my way to be rude, but if some dude screaming, "It's Ma'am" is getting triggered-- respect and accepting isn't what they'd get from me, and to expect they are affirmed is totally outside of the realm of reality.
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No, it's a psych disorder
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Both are men, portraying themselves as women, seems like the obvious connection/correlation.
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@allie4492 Look in a mirror
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@gianthills Because that impacts the revenue generated. Like in a job, if your productivity generates revenue for the employer, you're more valuable to the employer
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Missandry I know, which is why women don't need the cis prefix
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They're LARPing at BEST. They can have a surgeon alter their appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, prescribe hormones, etc... if they wish, and it doesn't make them an actual Klingon, and those who think it does-- are delusional
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Their trans ice skater was HILARIOUS
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@markusbaker1161 Apparently you do and they do. I just thought they were hilarious. How is that discrimination?
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@Sipu97 Dudes a troll stalker, and well-- there it is
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@Sipu97 I just thought it was funny, and directly related to the topic
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@markusbaker1161 Oh yes... The performance was hilariously underwhelming, but I'm sure it'll be awesome. As far as the video topic's question goes: Being female is essential to womanhood
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@markusbaker1161 It just looks like you're seeking more negative attention as an agitator. Looking at you not being relevant, while stalking-- makes you a troll. Maybe you're really Blossom continuing to act the fool
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@markusbaker1161 You asserted that not all trans people suffer with gender dysphoria. 1. How are those-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? 2. Why should those men be granted access to women's private spaces?
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@markusbaker1161 They're 2 very simple legitimate questions. Duck and weave Blossom
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@Maksie0 Not a refutation
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@cqllel5186 I get it... I do it, hoping that those interested can use some of it when they face the same nonsense from these activist types-- too
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No such thing as a female 'trans-woman'. They're males, by any other name-- Still males
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Brains with psych disorders
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Emotional and psych cases have been round for a long time, that's true
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Calling those men something else, doesn't make them something else. They're still men, regardless of their attire.
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They're narcissists
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@Maksie0 Evidence?
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@conor.3875 Ya... No one is saying you can't express yourself as you wish. You can identify as a Klingon if you choose-- BUT, that doesn't mean that others will perceive you as you perceive yourself. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do.
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@Maksie0 If that were true, their insistence on the 'trans' qualifier make no sense whatsoever
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@suga3774 To answer your question, I'm retired, and when I get notifications, I respond. I am doing a study on the responses and arguments used by the advocates, when challenged on their beliefs and claims, and am providing another point of view (still not refuted) to be seen and utilized by those interested, if/when it's appropriate-- to counter the incoherent narratives which fail to stand up to scrutiny, for themselves. Hope that helps clarify things
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@beautyunderoath3680 Only the insecure ones.
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@sunset4268 WOW! No... Cutting off their peckers doesn't make them women. It makes them dudes who cut off their damned peckers. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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@ItsSchwifty Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. You're the same sex/gender prior to altering your appearance, as you are after you do. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@Maksie0 I can picture you sitting in scammer call center, typing these comments
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Both are men portraying themselves as something they're not-- women. Drag is a Burlesque form of Adult entertainment, and doesn't belong anywhere near children
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@user-iv1bv6kv6x I didn't say they were the same, but they are both men engaging in cosplay and LARPing as women.
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@markusbaker1161 You shouldn't be. You should be better prepared and avoid making unsubstantiated presumptions in the future. That sound is the sound of men and women rejecting your woke trans activist, cult ideology and terminology. Don't believe me. Ask Budweiser
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@Maksie0 Perhaps. The way apps works is-- I keep getting notifications, so I respond. I'm sure I'll see you continue trolling with your fly by snarky and virtue free commentary, devoid of relevance.
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@markusbaker1161 Cite them
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@markusbaker1161 Using trans rights as way to violate women's rights to privacy, by allowing those men access-- is misogyny at it's finest
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@markusbaker1161 That's not a citation proving your previous claim. Do you have a citation or not?
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@mariec3733 People with an identity crisis are real. People with schizophrenia and multiple personality disorders are real too, BUT-- their delusions aren't real. Now you know
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@willie_am I didn't write that gender and sex are the same thing. They are not disconnected though. Perhaps re-read what I actually wrote, only slower this time, so you don't miss it again. No, you're inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) as though it's synonymous with gender, and it is not
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@markusbaker1161 What rights are you referring to? I respect human rights. What are these transgender rights you're referring to?
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@SirFish1 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are fixed biological categories, which are permanent. Altering one's appearance and changing one's wardrobe doesn't change anyone's sex/gender. Either way, they can LARP and indulge in cosplay all they want.
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@markusbaker1161 If they're something other than human rights, I can't say that I do or don't, as you've failed to define them
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Stereotypes exist for a reason. Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@veronica7459 Of course you don't understand.
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We need asylums
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No... Respect is reserved for that which is respectable, and it's earned
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There's no phobia when recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim to be. It's just being observant of objective reality
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Do you reside in a psych ward?
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@Maksie0 Telling the undisputed truth isn't bullying
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@katherinetanks632 You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, prescribe hormones etc., and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon, and if you think it does-- you're delusional. Putting on a disguise doesn't change ones gender
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@katherinetanks632 Gay people are males. Lesbian people are females. That confuses you?? I'm pretty sure they recognize the differences between male and female. What's your excuse?? Intersex isn't another gender in the binary. It's a birth defect DSM5 lists it as a psych disorder I recommend looking into the interviews of those who are de-transitioning. I don't presume there are cures for all ill's or we'd all be happy, healthy and immortal. Why do you?? There are those born with both medical defects and psych defects/disorders, neither of which disprove the binary.
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@poilaaliop Gender, referencing the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male and female -- the specific term trans seem to illustrate that which is outside of the binary cis norm
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Eff that. Respect is earned and they haven't earned it
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Both male and female already have their own restrooms
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@RotisserieiJamie No, they want 60+ restrooms for each possible permutation of an ever shifting fluid identity. It's nuts
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@markusbaker1161 The logic it takes to say that someone who has a host of other behavioral/mental disorders (as nearly all dealing with transgenderism do) and is willing to mutilate themselves in irreversible fashion to achieve a status wherein they're still dozens of times more likely to commit sui**de ISN'T mental illness, is amazingly twisted. Insert any other condition and any other incessant desire to self-harm and there would be no dispute whatsoever.
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The prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female and trans women are not that. They're men. It's not complicated
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@markusbaker1161 I'm Not wrong... You are
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not the one advocating extreme makeovers which include mutilating their body's.
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@markusbaker1161 You say that as if it somehow alters the fact that trans women are still men, and it doesn't
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@markusbaker1161 And yet-- here you are
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@markusbaker1161 You're not making any changes here. Why not take your own advice?
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@markusbaker1161 There was never any doubt about it. It's clearly apparent, that the topic is over your head
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@markusbaker1161 How do they differ from the rights they already have as men or women, respectively?
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@markusbaker1161 What do you mean? That's my question to you, when you reference transgender rights-- but you've been avoiding answering it. Apparently, you don't know what you mean when using the term transgender rights
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@markusbaker1161 If you're going to leave it to me to define them, then No-- I do not, as I only recognize the rights of males and females. The social construct that is transgenderism is lunacy, imo
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@markusbaker1161 I don't know what you're talking about because despite several attempts to get you to define them, you have not
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@markusbaker1161 I wouldn't, because the rights of men and women are already established in my country. You're the one that keeps bringing them up. Why don't you define what it is you're referring to?
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, mental illness and physical disorders have existed from the beginning of time-- as a part of humanity. Transgender people are valid people, who suffer with various "issues". Their identity being disconnected from reality being invalid, isn't the same thing. That you can't wrap your head around the nuance is intentional blindness on your part, or it's actual cluelessness on your part. It's of no consequence either way. I am correct and you are not
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@markusbaker1161 Your disagreement isn't in any way any sort of evidence proving my statements incorrect or invalid at all. Your nonsense doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Make the case for why someone who's XY should be considered XX (As would necessarily be the case, to substantiate the statement that trans women are women) or trans XX. Ready... Go... Make it make sense You've got nothing substantive so far. You're batting 0 of 1000
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@markusbaker1161 You haven't made the case for why someone who's XY should be considered XX (As would necessarily be the case, to substantiate the statement that trans women are women) or trans XX-- and neither has science or anyone else. Why not try being relevant for a change?
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Monkey see, monkey do
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Why? Both are people portraying/pretending to be something they're not
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Looks like a lot of people still haven't figured out that gender in not synonymous with personality traits and temperament yet
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Exactly correct
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@markusbaker1161 What does your ignorance have to do with the facts which exist despite your admission of ignorance??? There's no science anywhere which proves men can become women, so your narrative is out of gas. You lost-- move on
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@Maksie0 That's the sound of rejection. Cope Harder
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There's nothing phobic about recognizing that they aren't that which they claim to be. It just makes the observer, observant of objective reality
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@Maksie0 Your inane comments aren't true, not matter how many times you pretend they are when you repeat them
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@markusbaker1161 No worries. You do you. I'm not going to ignore what I can observe with my own eyes, and promote make believe, or cater to feelings by pretending that the identity of people who identify as something they're not in reality, is valid. They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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Quit inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender.
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@Maksie0 Reality Check: You're the vast minority
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Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1.) Your body and brain develop & grow together -> You simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2.) Hating a part of you body so much, that you cut it off, is a mental illness.
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Being a woman doesn't cease when you reach the age of menopause, or have a hysterectomy, or are just infertile. Just clarifying for the sake of precision.
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@Maksie0 It's been explained to you lot through the comment section. Do Better
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@Maksie0 To watch them expose activist hacks like Blossom. It's Funny as h3ll
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@Maksie0 Why would anyone listen to someone like you, who can't decipher the difference between men and women???
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Gender is Not a social construct. Gender roles are social constructs, and they refer to the roles of males and females-- without exception. Way too many inappropriately conflate Gender/sex (There are only 2 male/female... That's it) with Personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and gender roles (Which vary from culture to culture, country to country and society to society and without exception they're all long-established cultural norms, regarding the roles of males and females in those cultures, countries, and societies) as though they're all synonymous- and they are not. All women are born female, all men are born male and neither are social constructs, fetishes, feelings or costumes
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@ii954 There is no such thing as trans. They're not trans ANYTHING. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@hiddenname1802 Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not.
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No doubt, illustrating that neither men belong in the women's restroom??
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Delusional people don't distinguish objective reality from their delusions
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@thespudtato6009 If that were correct, you'd think the sewer-slide rate would indicate a decline after transitioning, but it doesn't appear to impact that to be less that nearly 10x's the norm. They're not trans anything. Still male or female, respectively-- just with an elaborate effort to change their appearance, not unlike someone getting their face tattooed (Doesn't change their sex or gender-- either). The big 5 are Extroversion, Neuroticism, Agreeableness, Conscientiousness, and Openness. Many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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A woman is an adult, human, female. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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@mariec3733 Trans is the fringe-- women aren't the opposite of trans, they're the standard which trans women are trying to emulate-- making the cis distinction entirely irrelevant and redundant
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@conor.3875 No, it's my observation that's the women's objection to being labeled cis, and Blossom continuing anyway, I'd argue with the intent to disrespect and provoke is summarily dismissed by you. What's up with that?
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That wasn't much of a substantive refutation. Could you be more vague?
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Because that dude is intellectually vacant, morally bankrupt, and spiritually lost
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@markusbaker1161 I meant, okay-- you're entitled to be wrong. Competent adults do their own research to confirm information for themselves. i reject your narratives-- and am not interested in indulging your intellectual diarrhea any longer. You've gone out of your way to be an insufferable twat-- so expecting integrity from you is not logical nor reasonable. You fail to make your case. Deal with it and move on. Your opinion has proven to be without value, and substance-free
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@Maksie0 Evidence??? 🦗🦗🦗
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@briannachilders772 Then using the trans prefix is entirely odd. Nonetheless-- It appears that you haven't figured out that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender yet. Look into it
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@But...WhyTho That's not a refutation by any standard or measure. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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@markusbaker1161 Looks like it's a yes regarding incompetence... Dealing with you is SO much like communicating with a late teen, who acts like they know everything, and can't don't anything for themselves unsupervised. Grow up! You're Ridiculous. Trends in sui**de de*th risk in transgender people: results from the Amsterdam Cohort of Gender Dysphoria study (1972-2017) Analyze the effectiveness of affirmation when you realize that the rate isn't affected even after transition.
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Because males present a bigger threat to women than women do to men. 'Cisgender' is a cult term used to pretend that there's another kind of woman other than those born female--BUT, there isn't. ALL women are born female. There are exactly ZERO exceptions
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Beat it groomer
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:face-blue-smiling::face-green-smiling:🤣 There's no irrational fear involved in recognizing that men aren't the women they present themselves as. That's just being observant
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They have difficulty figuring out which restroom is appropriate, and suffer severe anxiety when having to do so. I don't think they comprehend the meanings of a lot of words
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Why should the men being referred to as trans women, be treated as though they're women-- since they're not?
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By design
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They aren't trans ANYTHING. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after.
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Womanhood isn't a costume one can simply put on. Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@asielia There is now
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@jadena2992 If you can't accept yourself for what you actually are, I refuse to accept you for what you actually aren't. One could alter their appearance to look like a Klingon if they choose, and it doesn't actually make them a Klingon, and those who think it does are delusional. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Thoughts?? I wouldn't play along with someone w/ anorexia, by affirming their desire to continue to lose weight, either-- for the same reason. Feeding a dissociative condition by affirming it, doesn't help anything.
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@markusbaker1161 The layman's terms is-- 'Crazy people', (guys who think they're the opposite sex are dissociative and delusional) doing crazy sh*t, isn't exactly out of character or surprising. Deal with it
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Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not. They're Re-defining things so their ideological activist narrative appears to be based in objective reality, but it just doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects associated with being male or female, respectively. If/when they want to call me trans-phobic-- I really couldn't care less. There's no there-- there. They can rename men 'trans', and it changes nothing relevant but the name. It doesn't change them or make them women or illustrate that they're trans anything. If their subjective identity is predicated on the notion that society needs to ignore objective reality, then that identity is not valid-- as far as I'm concerned, and none have persuaded me that it is, or even that it should be. Nonetheless, my observations regarding so many of the comments of the trans-activists, are that they have not illustrated any respect for women or their private spaces by advocating in favor of men being allowed to infiltrate their spaces. They can't answer why men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim that they're women.
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More like delusional men vs women
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@markusbaker1161 Why do you so easily dismiss their privacy considerations? The women who are being called cis by trans women against their will and having their privacy encroached on against their will believe their considerations matter too, might wonder why they don't get that same consideration and note that it's the height of misogyny to mansplain what it is to be a woman -- to them
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@n.m8287 My Bad... I can't believe the feminists aren't absolutely furious about this. Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology as in their near future-- they'll be oppressed by men like Blossom who claim they're women.
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"It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@Roxana Blacksea Biological, are the ONLY kind of women which exist.
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@justyana488 "Socialism has a history of failure, so blatant- that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it".-- T. Sowell
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If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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@markusbaker1161 It does expose the silliness of the asserted narrative
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not talking about feelings. I'm talking about facts. The fact that you and others are conflating and confusing fact, fiction, and feelings about them-- is a problem, but it isn't mine
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not conflating the difference between males and females, men and women, or boys and girls. What are you talking about? The truth is that the 1 requirement for being woman is being female. Your failure to acknowledge it, changes nothing
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Not too bright... because he's not too bright. Dude is LARPing
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There are people. They are male or female, respectively. That status is permanent and fixed. There are segments of each which present with various physical and psych disorders, none of which invalidates the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species.
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@Maksie0 There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born females-- so now you know. Those are dudes
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Developmental sex disorders aren't evidence of another sex invalidating the binary of all mammalian species. Gender is not disconnected from biology. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There are people and they are males and females and there are segments of both which present with various birth defects, psych disorders, and some with both-- none of which are evidence of other genders invalidating the binary. It's XX (Female), XY (Male), and a variety of Birth defects/disorders within segments of each ... neither of which display sex organs other than that found in the binary. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. They need to learn how to Cope Harder
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I don't get it... If someone gets implants in their @ss and identifies as a Centaur-- That doesn't make them one, but that seems to be the rational of those suggesting that altering one's appearance and identifying as the opposite sex actually makes them that which they identify as... Make it make sense
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@Maksie0 That didn't explain anything. Make being relevant your new 'thing'
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@Maksie0 How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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People w/ face tattoos, a zillions piercings etc... do that too-- and it doesn't change their sex or gender either. Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@markusbaker1161 The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@markusbaker1161 This is sad that we live in a world where grown adult men, who identify with stereotypical feminine traits, believe that they are women.
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@Maksie0 No doubt you hear that a lot
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I see them wrestling with conflating personality traits and temperament with gender, as though they're synonymous-- and they are not
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@Maksie0 Recognizing objective reality isn't delusional, but denying it based on one's subjective imaginary fantasy-- IS.
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@GAYmergirl709 A woman is an adult, human female and-- they aren't that, so how do you figure?
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@evanmyerslover No-- you aren't. Same as you ever were. Enjoy the cosplay and LARPing--
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@Maksie0 I accept that there are people. They are male and female, and segments of each present w/ various physical disorders and various psych disorders, some with both. People like Blossom aren't trans anything. There merely caricatures of that which they wish they could be, and never will-- women
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@mariec3733 Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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Google it. There are tons of horror stories
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@Maksie0 Why would someone who believes they're a woman wish to have the cis or trans distinction drawn? That's Odd
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There's no such thing as trans. There are males and females... That's it. A woman isn't a costume that men can simply put on. Women aren't a social construct. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those men weren't. Now you know
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Perhaps since difference mixed races are possible, is the thought??
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Their correct bathroom? Those dudes aren't banned from using the male restroom. What are you talking about? Evidence to support your claim??
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Nah... He makes himself look bad, and the incoherent narrative speaks for itself
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That dude is unhinged from reality and isn't any kind of 'she' or 'her'
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@markusbaker1161 Life's not fair. Cope Harder. Try searching pub med dot ncbi dot nim dot nih dot gov
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@chinesespybaby129 Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are inappropriately confusing and conflating gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous and they are not, while simultaneously insisting that biological sex and gender are disconnected-- while failing to realize that a subjective identity doesn't alter anyone's biological reality. Lost souls
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@chinesespybaby129 They contradict themselves when they say a trans woman is a woman, while acknowledging that sex and gender are separate and disconnected-- failing to realize that they're admitting that subjective gender identity, when removed from objective reality, doesn't change anyone's biology-- meaning they're still men. It's intellectual bankruptcy
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@Maksie0 That's wrong
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@conor.3875 Yes, women do, is the obvious answer
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@conor.3875 How don't you? Has logic and reason always presented a challenge for you?
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@conor.3875 Uh huh... Keep telling yourself that. As women, women have no other way to process anything from any other point of view other than-- as women.
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@conor.3875 Tell that to the community of men who identify as 'women'
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@conor.3875 A woman is an adult, human, female-- which is a permanent biological category
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"It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance."-- T. Sowell
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Society doesn't need to revamp itself to accommodate a minority of psych cases w/ identity issues. It's for THEM to adapt to fit into society
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@Maksie0 You still haven't processed the fact that those are men yet? Have you always had this incredible level of difficulty assimilating facts?
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@Maksie0 They don't seem to have difficulty deciphering the difference between males and females like you do
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Drag and trans are both typically men, portraying the s3xu@l stereotypical caricature of a woman. There's no h8 involved in recognizing that a dude in a dress is a dude. That's just being observant
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It's a giant Psyop, designed to identify then manipulate the sheep, and lead them astray
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Still-- Both are men in a women's disguise
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@xtalfinn They seem to have a vested interest in suggesting that men, when presenting as women-- should be granted access to women's spaces and that women should be okay with that. That's Odd
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@xtalfinn I recognize that they are males. They aren't trans anything-- regardless of having gender dysphoria or not. If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, I don't see why should those males should have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms
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They aren't trans anything. Still male or female respectively, the same as they were prior to altering their appearance as they are-- after. That said, The "trans"men-- being women would likely be able to speak about that topic.
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders. The incoherent ideology is inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament-- none of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys, w/ gender
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Most women's eyes too
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@conor.3875 Most of the world doesn't have difficulty deciphering the differences between males and females, so it isn't probable
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@conor.3875 That sound you're hearing is the sound of men and women everywhere rejecting your w0ke nonsense. You don't have to believe me-- Ask Budweiser and Target
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@conor.3875 Being relevant, the same reply is to be expected to the same intellectually vacant talking points you continually assert
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@conor.3875 It just cuts through the minutia that you prefer to focus on, and gets straight to the point-- which is that Trans women are men with issues, pretending to be women without issues.
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@Maksie0 Not a single case of any human being born other than male or female-- Ever
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That dude is unhinged from reality. There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female.
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Those dudes will never be women. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those dudes weren't
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@markusbaker1161 The agitator/stalker strikes again... STILL, not a refutation BTW, I'm not the one advocating the ideological narrative that would prefer that I use subjective preferred pronouns, BUT-- You are the advocate who's failed to make the case, and persuade me to reconsider my thoughts, which are still unrefuted. You Fail to persuade. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 Don't have a fit. Trans is the construct, based in fantasy. Sorry to burst your bubble
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You're going to prefer using the women's restroom. Don't say nobody told you
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@teddy_needs.sleep9 The women's tend to be more sanitary, but hey-- you do you. If you prefer a less sanitary condition, then by all means-- use the men's room
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@teddy_needs.sleep9 That the women's restroom is more sanitary than the men's
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@evilforeskin No he isn't. He's an adult male, who's merely altered his appearance. I appreciate you confessing that you don't know the difference, but it changes nothing.
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it. A woman isn't a costume, a feeling or a social construct. They conflate gender w/ personality, science w/ science-fiction, gender with gender roles, fact w/ fiction, males w/ females and men w/ women.
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@R L No doubt you also believe that is an appropriate response to those who insist on preferred pronouns, yes?
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@R L I'm asking a question. How long has your reading comprehension deficit presented a problem for you?
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Respect is also reserved for that which is respectable, and it's earned or it just isn't
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@Maksie0 How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@Maksie0 The narrative incorrectly suggests trans women are women too, making the prefix entirely redundant.
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Dude is misgendering himself. He's Not a woman, and never will be. There's absolutely nothing phobic about recognizing that he isn't that which he claims to be. It just makes those who recognize it, observant of objective reality. How is someone who suffers from a psych disorder, which has them believing that they're something other than what they are-- not a dissociative state by definition?
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@Tumbledweeb Cope harder... Men cannot become women
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@markusbaker1161 This is sad that we live in a world where grown adult men, who identify with stereotypical feminine traits, believe that they are women.
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The truth matters
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@scarlettdavis9336 That's not an answer to the question. Affirming a psych disorder and attempting to normalize it? You don't affirm a schizophrenic's claim that they can fly off the roof top, and think it's helping the patient.
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@scarlettdavis9336 Gender Dysphoria IS, according the the DSM5
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@scarlettdavis9336 There's no such thing as 'Trans'. You're exactly the same sex/gender prior to altering your appearance, as you are after. LARPing, doesn't count
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What's stopping trans women from using the men's room?
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@staccaya9709 Your logic is as follows: Because criminals commit crimes we should just abandon all laws,since criminals don't follow the law. :face-turquoise-covering-eyes:🙄
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@Maksie0 STOP!! Trans women are troubled men with issues, pretending to be women without issues.
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@markusbaker1161 What you choose to call those men couldn't be less relevant or interesting. They're still men-- Simple as That 😏
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@markusbaker1161 I'm talking about objective reality. You're talking about subjective feelings.
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@markusbaker1161 Evidence?
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@markusbaker1161 Cite a study anywhere proving trans-women are not biological men
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More like confused men vs women
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Losah Tattletales 🎯 Bullseye!
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@conor.3875 Only in Fantasy land, not in reality. The vast majority of men and women are rejecting your wokeism. Don't believe me, just ask Budweiser, and Target
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@conor.3875 Justifying the end of affirmative action, and highlighting the bogus claims of racism?
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@conor.3875 Trying to follow YOUR logic. You said people identify as the race they feel-- SO, if that's the case, there is no such thing as racism, which justifies the end of affirmative action
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@conor.3875 You're the one suggesting race is fluid so, how then, can there be racism?
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that I can promote make believe, or cater to feelings by pretending I don't recognize that they aren't that which they present themselves as. They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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@jesusisking1095 It's not society's obligation to adapt for them. It's for them to adapt to the real world
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@Someone-qq5kc A woman is an adult human female, and half the panel aren't that and will never be that
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Dude is a dude. His feelings about it and altering his appearance and wardrobe doesn't change that-- and it never will
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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2 sexes/genders and a zillion psych disorders and cosplay and LARPing going on
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@Maksie0 'Cisgender' is a cult term used to pretend that there's another kind of woman other than those born female--BUT, there isn't. ALL women are born female. There are exactly ZERO exceptions
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@markusbaker1161 If you aren't talking about biology, then the banter regarding what you call males or females-- or how they present themselves is totally irrelevant. They're still males or females, respectively. Someone's subjective identity, when conflicting with the reality of their biology, by default-- is irrelevant and invalid-- and amounts to nothing more than cosplay. How does it not?
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@amuslimwoman1121 No, women are women, and men are men. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent, not psychological categories. You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look Like a Klingon from Star Trek, prescribe hormones, refer a makeup and fashion consultant and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon either-- and if you think it does, it means you're delusional
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@amuslimwoman1121 The 'Because you said so' standard has been issued exactly ZERO credibility. You're going to have to do better than that. If that were true, there would be no men or women
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@markusbaker1161 Says the guy who incorrectly asserts that trans women are women.
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@markusbaker1161 Your input isn't credible, of value, or of interest. Your comments have already been rendered obsolete.
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@markusbaker1161 Men and women however, are not social constructs. You're the one who keeps claiming that sex and gender are different. That you don't comprehend that it invalidates your attempt to justify the incoherent narrative you've been peddling-- that trans women are women-- being that they're men isn't a surprise
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@markusbaker1161 A woman is an adult, human, female. That's a biological category, not a social construct. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. You're confusing gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender- as though they're synonymous, and they are not, while simultaneously conflating biological sex with gender. It's no wonder your conclusions are faulty
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@markusbaker1161 HA-- You're wrong. The medical professionals arguing against your endorsed nonsense, and the ethics of those who are providing these procedures already have, along with those who are de transitioning and the push back against this lunacy has already begun. You'll see
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@angiew2324 The truth that they're delusional, detached from reality and often are emotionally damaged and are being taken advantage of by paid activist hacks who foster their disconnect with reality by affirming their LARP and cosplay as though it's based in reality
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@capyfromnowhere That dude is unhinged from reality.
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It's just being observant that they are not that which they present themselves to be, and their triggered name calling is really what is truly meaningless
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@markusbaker1161 What you choose to call men dressing up as women couldn't be less relevant or interesting to me. I don't see why men should be granted access to women's private spaces, or how you justify dismissing those women's rights. Seems like the height of misogyny to me.
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@markusbaker1161 Yes it does, and I call it like it is in objective reality.
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@markusbaker1161 If you need proof of the differences between men and women-- consult a university biology department to confirm that my analysis of objective reality is correct and totally in line with science.
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@CreativeUsernameEh Objective reality isn't merely an opinion. They're men. There appears to be a prerequisite to being considered a trans-woman, and that's being male. There is no science which shows that trans-women aren't males. The fact that people want to pretend otherwise, doesn't change objective reality
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Leftists: Everything we don't like must be banned Also Leftists: Everything we do like must be provided for and funded by others
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TOTAL Intellectual bankruptcy. There are males and females, and there are minority segments of each which present with birth defects and various mental illnesses/psych disorders. They aren't "trans" ANYTHING. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance and chemistry, as they are after.
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, it is pretending, or it's total lack of awareness. Science and medicine and the law has established that all mammalian species are male and female, and humans are no exception, and that there are differences between the sexes. If you're trans girlfriend needs a prostate exam, he ain't a she
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@markusbaker1161 You haven't made the case for why someone who's XY should be considered XX (As would necessarily be the case, to substantiate the statement that trans women are women) or trans XX. Why not try being relevant for a change?
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Raise your own kids how you see fit. Leave other people's kids alone
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I don't get why. There's nothing phobic, nor irrational about recognizing that someone is not that which they claim to be. It just makes one observant, does it not?
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Clearly, it's not even as deep as a baby spoon. Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@rochestas Well it certainly shouldn't be an adolescent conversation topic. Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men Gender addresses the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female. It appears that you and many others are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@rochestas Because children don't need to be kept up on the latest psych conditions and treatments. That's over their heads. The fact that you had to ask, indicates, you should NEVER be allowed around children
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@hangbrand8199 They are an extremely small minority that the world doesn't owe any consideration to accommodate their delusional scenarios that exist only in their imaginations. Restrooms are designed around biology not subjective feelings. Male bits-- use the men's room. Pretty simple
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@flyinginthewind111 1 MILLION up votes
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@brianwebberable Seems like you're struggling with explaining how you came up with 'racist' from the OP's comment.
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Totally agree. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the use of 'Cis' totally useless and irrelevant.
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@Maksie0 Do you know what a woman is?
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@Semiretired_RN Get em. That dude is a trans-activist, playing the role of an agent provocateur
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@Maksie0 So??? What's your point? Nouns aren't worth respecting??? GFY
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@Maksie0 It's entirely irrelevant. There's only one kind of woman and they're ALL born females.
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@markusbaker1161 Cry harder. Trans is the REAL construct. You've failed to persuade otherwise. I couldn't care less that some dude is LARPing or enjoying their cosplay.I recognize it for what it is, and that seems to bother you. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 No, gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Your failure to comprehend, doesn't invalidate what I wrote
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@Maksie0 That's just intellectually vacant. Trans women are men w/ issues, pretending to be women without issues
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What's trans? Altering your appearance doesn't change your sex/gender. Same sex/gender prior to altering your appearance as you are after altering your appearance.
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@Maksie0 The stats on post-op self-termination rates seem to indicate that the currently prescribed treatments aren't exactly illustrations of satisfaction-- as I see it
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The obvious escapes you?
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Get a refund
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@miraculousk7547 Unfortunately, I can only post facts for you. I can't 'understand' them FOR you too. That's all on you, and it appears you have a comprehension deficit in play. Perhaps you're not thinking straight, because you're too tired No one is born with both male and female genitalia where both are functional. Intersex is an extraordinarily rare Birth Defect which NEVER presents genitalia outside of the binary. Not another sex or gender
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@miraculousk7547 You've failed to persuade or to articulate a refutation for what I wrote. People exist. They are male or female. There are segments of each which present with physical and psych disorders-- some with both, and their feelings about them don't invalidate the facts
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@miraculousk7547 The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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Blossom, is that you? Care to elaborate?
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Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct. She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals, specifically humans. Now you know
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@bullsbattlebonanza5377 I hate to break it to you, but regarding gender-- There are 2, male and female, and one's personality and quirky fashion sense doesn't alter that permanent state. You don't use pronouns when addressing people in the 1st person, you'd use their name, and to use a pronoun that is in conflict with objective reality would be grammatically incorrect. Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is respectable. If your subjective identity is in conflict with objective reality, then that identity isn't valid. People aren't obligated to indulge the LARPing or cosplay. I reject the entire incoherent ideological narrative
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@markusbaker1161 You're the one who keeps claiming that sex and gender are different. That you don't comprehend that it invalidates your attempt to justify the incoherent narrative you've been peddling-- that trans women are women-- being that they're men, isn't a surprise
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@Maksie0 Personality traits and temperament are different things than gender, and they're conflating them and acting as though they're synonymous-- and they're just not The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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@Maksie0 Women (ALL of them) are born female and there are no exceptions. That you're confused about that, discredits your opinion highlighting your disconnect with reality
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@dorkchops There are males and females... that's it. Segments of each present with various physical issues, some with various psych issues, and some with BOTH physical and psych issues-- NONE of which make it possible for a male to become a female or vice versa.
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@markusbaker1161 Like I said, 'Your suggestion otherwise doesn't invalidate reality, and the fact that others share your opinion doesn't change the fact that They're still men, and suggesting otherwise is thoroughly absurd. They are men, they are not women'. The 'Because you-- or someone says so' standard is rejected in favor of reality. Their belief to the contrary doesn't mean they should be allowed to infiltrate women's spaces like restrooms, locker rooms, sports competition, and women's prisons, since their elaborate efforts to disguise themselves to look like that which they are not, doesn't make them women. They're still Men
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@ox4df5h6g5ff So-- You have no answers. I recommend being relevant
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It illustrates that there are people disconnected from reality, and that they're unable or unwilling to comprehend that the 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female.
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@Maksie0 It is the trans-activists like you, who's insistence that others-- who are already minding their own business, participate in your LARP and cosplay, by insisting on the grammatically incorrect use of pronouns, and with no regard for the displacement of women's privacy, which is at the root of how you brought your business to everyone in public, making it their business. Irony or idiocy? Quit your whining. You look and sound ridiculous
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@Maksie0 M0r0n... There is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female, making the use of cis totally ridiculous and irrelevant
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Personally, I couldn't possibly care less if they get a surgeon to alter their appearance to look like a Klingon. Even if they really really really believe it actually then makes them a Klingon, and they identify as a Klingon-- it does not change the nature of who and what they are, and anyone who thinks it does is delusional or intellectually stunted, or intentionally engaging in cosplay. Women (ALL of them) are born female, and that state is fixed and permanent-- making the use of 'Cis' entirely ridiculous. Women aren't social constructs. They're one half of the binary dichotomy of all mammals, specifically humans-- in objective reality. I don't care if you identify as rich, successful and beautiful whatever... if you're not, you're not
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@babs_babs The world doesn't give a crap about your feelings, so you better develop some coping skills. You're not the center of everyone else's universe. Take your time to proces reality
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I will. A woman is an adult, human, female. It's really not complicated
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@tashieschimchim6791 No, that doesn't answer my question at all
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@markusbaker1161 Oh ya? well, Your analysis and conclusions are rejected and dismissed, but feel free to think what you want
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Born a 'female', not a woman. Women are adults ;)
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Or a Bad James Brown impersonator, or President Dwayne Alizondo Mountain Dew Camacho (Terry Crews-- in a wig) from Idiocracy
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@mariec3733 I see your juvenile interaction pattern, and find your thoughts and comments to be less than useless, and totally non-responsive-- making interacting with you a waste, because you choose to make yourself irrelevant. I reject your pushed cult narrative and terminology- You want people to respect you and your desires-- you better figure out that respect is earned or you're going to continue to be an unhappy and disappointed individual
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@redacted5035 Oh stop it... Cutting off your pecker doesn't make you a woman. It just makes you a dude who's cut off his damned pecker. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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Better informed people with psych disorders... That's funny
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@Maksie0 It's a cult term, used to pretend that there's another kind of woman other than those born female, BUT-- there is not
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In all fairness, one wouldn't expect intellectual clarity from the mentally ill and/or morally bankrupt
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@rosalynlarry6533 W E A K. It's XX, XY, Birth defect, psych disorders... That's it!
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There's only one kind of woman and they're all born female. That dude is unhinged from reality
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They inappropriately conflate gender and sex. Then, they inappropriately conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they inappropriately conflate personality traits and temperament with gender. Ya, it's absurd. They fail to realize that if their identity relies upon the participation of others denying objective reality-- that those identities are invalid.
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@Maksie0 Up your game junior. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female, making the use of cis/trans totally illogical and ridiculous
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@briannachilders772 There is only 'The' truth. The your truth nonsense neither validates nor invalidates anything whatsoever. Men cannot become women, and women cannot become men. Cope Harder
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Sounds like a You problem. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Too bad you can't ban ignorance and mental illness
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@degstoll There are no trans people. There are only males and females... That's it! Segments of each present with various physical and psych issues-- some with Both
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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How about, No
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@srhfadoodle6259 Then, that cost should be included in their bill for transitioning into what amounts to nothing other than a different looking version of themself. Still the Same sex as before, same gender as before. To me, it amounts to an elaborate cosplay experiment How is that different than expecting consideration for having a face life or a nose job and requiring special accommodations from the world based on those decisions?
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@Nonyah123 💯🎯
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@Maksie0 That just makes them observant, by recognizing that they aren't that which they claim to be
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He-- 😏
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@conor.3875 Is English not your 1st language? It's grammatically incorrect to use the pronoun 'she' for a male.
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@SA_Solution Well, they're born baby girls, not women. A woman is an adult, human, female. ;)
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@luc3527 The point is exposing the hypocrisy involved in expecting to be addressed a certain way while disregarding the wish of another to to be addressed as preferred. They're merely caricatures of what they wish they were. If the validity of one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@markusbaker1161 Nothing then? Of course not... It doesn't exist I know... trans women are men, not women. That you do not-- is pathetic
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Being trans is the construct, based in fantasy
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@RotisserieiJamie There's a prerequisite to being a woman and that's being born a female. A woman is an adult, human, female, so how do you figure those men are women??
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@Maksie0 Your difficulty deciphering reality/fact from fantasy/fiction renders your opinion null an void, as your perception of reality is warped.
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@Maksie0 It's science-fiction, not dissimilar to LARPing men in drag,.
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@erauprcwa They aren't 'trans' anything whatsoever. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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@Maksie0 Then, it's men in drag
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That dude is unhinged and isn't any kind of woman. Women (ALL of them) are born female. Cope Harder
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@yansideabacoa6257 I am of Native American and Hispanic decent thank you, and effeminate men of the past were still men. Take your time to process the fact that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender or gender roles
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@glassesyouneed6876 My agenda? The truth, that reality is objective and you-- wishing to be the opposite sex, and identifying as such, doesn't make it so.
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@glassesyouneed6876 They're the one's insisting that I participate in their cosplay and LARP, as though it's based in reality, by insisting that I deny objective reality and affirm their subjective sense of self, contrary to objective reality and use their preferred pronouns etc... The thing is, the world doesn't revolve around you and to insist that it should is not going to make it so. You Cope with that
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@glassesyouneed6876 It's clear you have no idea that respect is earned, and is reserved for that which is respectable. The world doesn't owe it to you. Cope Harder
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@glassesyouneed6876 Don't Care. You proven to my satisfaction that you're arguing for the sake of argument and are acting in the role of a trans-activist, agent provocateur. You fail to persuade
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@luckyeclipse7455 Nope. Still a male, same as before altering his appearance. Feelings don't define one's biology
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@Maksie0 How are they-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? Why should those men, who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria be granted access to women's private spaces?
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@yumalove7411 Please remember, Respect is earned, and it's reserved for that which is respectable. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid.
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@justyana488 Then insisting that one needs to alter their biology, to be "who they really are" is extraordinarily odd
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@justyana488 Clearly, what is "common sense" among whose who have difficulty defining what is a woman, is what's common among those with intellectual deficits so massive, further illustrated by the fact that they can't discern fantasy from reality, making them dissociative by default-- Sort of makes their opinion less than useless, and without credibility for the same reason.
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@chall8114 They're a phone scammer too... No moral character whatsoever
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They obviously aren't as big a threat to men, as men are to women-- which is why you don't hear men complaining
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There's only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female, making the use of cis/trans intellectually vacant and totally useless.
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1/2 the panel don't comprehend the differences between males and females, so it really isn't a shocker
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@Cle-o All women are born female, making the use of cis totally useless and irrelevant.
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@empresscrafts689 How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@mrme9624 Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then your identity is not valid.
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@redacted5035 A woman is an adult, human female, and he is not that, and can never be that-- so how do you figure??
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@markusbaker1161 The laugh is my response to your preferred pronouns nonsensical idiocy.
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Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. All they're doing is altering their appearance and body chemistry. They're not 'Trans' ANYTHING whatsoever. Their the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after.
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Cry harder! The thing is, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and their natural body chemistry. Still men
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Same as every other mammal-- including humans. 2
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Their ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. A woman is an adult, human, female.
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Irony? You just identified yourself as a woman. Just sayin...
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@justonetime6179 It's a noun
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@justonetime6179 You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek too, but that doesn't make you a Klingon in reality-- regardless of the way you may feel about it, and those who think it does are delusional. I accept that there are people who are males and females and that some of each have birth defects and psych disorders, but that doesn't invalidate the binary
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Show me someone who values women's rites, and advocates to diminish them, and I'll show you a hypocrite
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There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born Female-- making the use of cis entirely useless and irrelevant
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There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the use of cis entirely useless and irrelevant. Trans women are Men with issues, pretending that they're women without issues. Still men
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A woman is an adult, human, female. That's a biological category, not a social construct. Those men have no business in women's spaces Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. You're confusing gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament with gender, while simultaneously conflating biological sex with gender.
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@markusbaker1161 Gender roles, not gender-- are socially constructed. Cite the source of this alleged "science" you keep referring to
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@mariec3733 There isn't anyone more obsessed with trans people than the trans activists, such as yourself and trans people. The technical word used for people like you is delusional
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@markusbaker1161 I know You said trans women are women. Looks like you're saying women are a social construct, and I wouldn't put it past you dear-- you haven't made any coherent case yet-- to support that statement or to explain the logic behind why those biological men should be granted access into women's private spaces, regardless of their objections.
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@markusbaker1161 Yet, you continue to connect them as though they weren't separate by phrasing your statement trans women are women. Trans women are not biological women, and women aren't a social construct-- So how do you figure those men (since gender is according to you disconnected from sex), are women? Incoherent idiocy on your part
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@Maksie0 Nope
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@mariec3733 Gaslight harder. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@Maksie0 Then how do you explain those who claim to be trans, who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria?
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@andrewbrasfield1104 I find a male like Blossom, insisting on being recognized as a her-- ridiculous
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@weloveagoodroll9599 They're narcissists. That's just how they roll
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@DefiledDame Male (XY) and female (XX) are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous-- and they are not
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Learn the differences-- so you can Quit conflating gender with personality and gender roles, as though they're synonymous. They aren't
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Trans women are men portraying a social construct counter to their reality
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@conor.3875 Your total lack of integrity and foolishness regarding the fact that a woman is an adult, human, female which is a biological category which is fixed and permanent-- making the claim that trans women are not men intellectually disconnected from reality
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@conor.3875 Your opinion is less than useless
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@Maksie0 Nah... That's just the sound of reality rejecting your imaginary bull 💩
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Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Ooops.... Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Gender is not disconnected from biology. The 2 are intrinsically linked. They aren't trans ANYTHING. They're the exact same sex prior to altering their appearance as they are after. At BEST, they're LARPing
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More accurately-- Men vs women
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@LizwiththeFrizz You don't. It just happens to work out that way
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@conor.3875 There's only 1 kind of woman, and as it turns out-- there's a prerequisite to being a woman, and that's being born female, making the cis prefix is irrelevant.
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@markusbaker1161 No, they do not. Putting lipstick on a pig doesn't make it a woman.
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@Maksie0 You still haven't figured it out yet? Get better therapy
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@markusbaker1161 That is the correct translation of what I said about your comment
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@markusbaker1161 Go back and re-read-- only slower this time so you don't miss it again
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@markusbaker1161 So then-- quit asking questions. All it does is highlight your intellectually vacant comprehension capacity, when you are unable to comprehend the answers. You tell me, why should a male be granted access to women's private spaces like dressing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, sports teams or prisons? 🦗🦗🦗
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@markusbaker1161 You can say that with perfect utility and yet, it proves nothing and refutes even less. Your intentional foolishness doesn't further the cause you seem to advocate-- with those who aren't on board with the trans-cult narrative
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@markusbaker1161 Your clowning is boring, unproductive and doesn't validate your claims nor invalidate mine. I call them men. Changing the name of something doesn't change the something into something else. It only changes the word you're using to describe them. They're still men. Take your time to process that.
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In all fairness, he is mentally impaired
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@markusbaker1161 There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women, illustrating that your narrative is a totally bogus faith-based belief with zero evidence to support your claim that trans women are women. Checkmate / You lost
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Oh ya... Just ask Budweiser
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@Maksie0 No they aren't. They're men, regardless of you calling them something else-- still men, just with a quirky fashion sense
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It's happened, and female inmates ended up r@ped and pregnant
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@markusbaker1161 Let's not pretend that the Loudin county case of a hs girl getting assaulted, etc... doesn't exist
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Because they're the same gender/sex they were prior to altering their appearance as they are after not dissimilar to drag queens
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There is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female. There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are
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No... Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable... That's why sovereign nations have borders. How many children have you raised to become well-adjusted and productive members of society?
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@towelle91845 That intellectually bankrupt dude is unhinged from reality.
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@Maksie0 It's an analogy fool.
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@markusbaker1161 No. You're an anarchist, agent provocateur. Be grateful for internet anonymity. Your provocation wouldn't be tolerated in person and you know it.
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@mariec3733 They do when they say trans women are women. It really doesn't matter. Your nonsense is just that-- nonsense. Playing dress up doesn't mean all of society must play along. The world doesn't owe you anything. Deal with it. You are not that which you portray yourself and people recognize that. Too bad so sad for you. Now be gone
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@markusbaker1161 i challenged what you assert are facts with questions about the conclusions, and you had no response but disingenuous antagonism, deflection, and playing the part of a fool. I am still open to having an intellectually sound, adult conversation with anyone interested, but you seem to instead prefer juvenile sparring sessions free from integrity. That's your choice, but it isn't conducive to a productive dialogue-- so that's where we're at.
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@r5014 1 MILLION up votes
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@Maksie0 Cis/trans are attempts by radical ideologues to distract from the fact that there is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- and that all men are born male, with zero exceptions, so they can pretend that their LARP and cosplay is based in reality
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@conor.3875 Cis is irrelevant, as there is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female
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They're still men.
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@samlafontaine8552 There are males and females. That's it... Now you know. A woman isn't a costume that men can put on, and she isn't a social construct. Update your understanding to comprehend the fact that personality and gender aren't synonymous
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They should be designated to use the men's restroom-- if they're males, and the female's restrooms if they're females, and be assigned to male prisons if they're male and women's prisons if they're female. PERIOD They are not trans ANYTHING. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do.
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@mariec3733 Nobody? That's not correct, but even if it were true, gender doesn't invalidate biology-- so why should those men being referred to as trans women, be granted access to women's private spaces?
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@mariec3733 That's not correct, but even if it were true, gender doesn't invalidate biology-- so why should those men being referred to as trans women, be granted access to women's private spaces?
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:face-green-smiling::face-blue-smiling:🤣😂🤭🤪😜 H I L A R I O U S That dude is unhinged from reality, with a shoe size that dwarfs his IQ
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Being "Trans" IS the construct, based in fantasy
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@petemiller2920 His position is that trans women are women, making the insistence on the prefix entirely redundant and extraordinarily odd. He's a mere caricature of what he wishes he was, and can never be-- a woman. Not trans ANYTHING. Still the same after altering his appearance and a wardrobe change, as he was before.
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@petemiller2920 One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Cope Harder
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@petemiller2920 Re: 1 of 3, adjectives aren't prefixes. Try again?
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@petemiller2920 The delusions of those who operate in a dissociative state aren't limited to rational and reason, as they aren't founded in reality. They're gender pretenders with a sense of narcissism that's off the charts
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@petemiller2920 I accept that there are people. They are male and female, and segments of each present w/ various physical birth defects and various psych disorders, some with both. People like Blossom aren't trans anything. There merely caricatures of that which they wish they could be, and never will-- women
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Both
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@Maksie0 Chill out, Blossom
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Um, No... Race is biological not a social construct. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male and female, respectively
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Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. If you've got male biology, use the men's room and if you have female biology, you'd use the female restroom-- since restrooms in general are designed around biology not subjective identity,no?
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@firstofawll Not even close
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@markusbaker1161 Don't be triggered. Your aversion to anything that isn't rooted in confirmation bias is showing. The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@markusbaker1161 Your ever present anti-woman, anti-social, 'Look at me' arguments, suggest otherwise. You seem just as -- T r i g g e r e d, as you did on the debate panel. Shocker... :text-green-game-over:
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@markusbaker1161 You say that as if you believe it takes being a doctor to decipher the differences between males and females. :face-blue-smiling::face-green-smiling:
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@markusbaker1161 Doesn't matter why you wrote all the things you have. They're still incoherent nonsense, based in subjective imagination, and the claims of activist professionals pushing an agenda, which crumble and fail to stand up to scrutiny-- when basic logic is applied-- which challenge the assertions of the narrative, and highlight it's incoherence. When challenged on the rational, logic, or integrity of the activist ideological narratives-- you ran away by writing that you don't owe me an explanation. We can agree to disagree
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@markusbaker1161 If your identity is predicated upon the notion that others must recognize you as you perceive yourself subjectively-- contrary to objective reality, that identity is not valid. Your claim that humans are the only known species to have "awareness" is patently absurd and demonstrably false. Personality traits and variability of temperament among humans are not synonymous with gender.
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@kizoyah9253 Respect is reserved for that which is actually respectable.
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@finnoluna Nope, In fact-- None are, cuz male and female are biological categories set by chromosomes. Try again?
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Should be delusional men vs women
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@kaavi1391 Exactly Correct
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The idiocy is them renaming men and thinking that somehow makes them women or entitled to women's private spaces. The entire ideology is incoherent madness
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@markusbaker1161 Read the title of the video you're commenting on.
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@markusbaker1161 Duh... I wouldn't try to refute my own correct statement
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@markusbaker1161 Yes! I am 1 of 1. Look, I get it-- you're an agitator. Knowing that my comments trigger you, because I'm not fooled into believing men are women due to a disguise, or altered terminology-- is just a perk. You're dismissed.
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@Nanajsiuz Say the people who are confused about the differences between men and women
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@Maksie0 Blossom, You go away
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It's also prisons, dressing rooms, sports and sports teams. If the addition of restrooms for trans people is required, perhaps it should be done in some new asylum construction designs.
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I bet they didn't touch on the high rate of self-termination even after transition
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@markusbaker1161 How well it's working
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@markusbaker1161 Is it working well? Seems like something relevant to go find out.
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@markusbaker1161 What's yours? Mine was to draw attention to something which may prove interesting, and relevant.
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, I am 1 of 1. There is no study anywhere confirming that trans-women are not biological males. What horrors?
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, I did. It's the 1st comment I made. Your inability to decipher that they're men or your willingness to pretend otherwise, changes nothing
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@markusbaker1161 Name the study that shows that trans-women aren't men. 🦗🦗🦗
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@markusbaker1161 No, it isn't
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@markusbaker1161 Why can't you cite the study on that site or on any other medical site for that matter-- which proves the claim that men can become women? I'll tell you why... Because it doesn't exist ANYWHERE
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@Maksie0 What's the supposed swindle? Get a clue
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Half the country are the women, who's private spaces are being encroached upon by these people. There are nowhere near that many people on the side of this incoherent nonsense
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@markusbaker1161 Look at you carelessly demeaning women's rights
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@markusbaker1161 You already did, when you said that men should be allowed in women's private spaces-- with no regard for women's rights
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@markusbaker1161 So you don't think that that men should be allowed in women's private spaces-- with no regard for women's rights to privacy?
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@markusbaker1161 Look, I get it-- you're an agitator. Knowing that my comments trigger you, because I'm not fooled into believing men are women due to a disguise, or altered terminology-- is just a perk. You're dismissed.
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Irony is hilarious
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@bingchilling634 Not my place to recognize that they're not that which they claim to be?? I'm not saying people can't indulge in LARPing or cosplay dress up if they want. I'm saying "trans" IS the construct, based in fantasy.
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@markusbaker1161 Cry me a river. Trans women, are confused men playing dress up.
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@markusbaker1161 You said trans women are women. That's wrong. You're still inappropriately conflating social constructs with biological reality-- exposing your irrationality and lack of logic. You don't have any credibility regarding deciphering facts from fiction or fantasy from reality.
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Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future-- they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will say they're women (And women who buy into the narrative don't even seem to see this coming)
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@Julasoxich That's his only goal
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@markusbaker1161 I recognize them, but as men who've chosen to make themselves a caricature of the women they wish they could be. I didn't make them do that. You appear triggered, that I'm not fooled by their disguises, and that I recognize that they're still men, but with a quirky fashion sense, some of whom who've had plastic surgery-- and that regardless of you calling them trans-women, I recognize that they're still men. If you want to pretend otherwise, nothing is stopping you. I am not judging that, I'm just observing it. Like I said, the 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female-- and those men aren't that. Hope that clarifies it for you
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@Maksie0 Not possible. Previous attempts prove futile
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@conor.3875 Poor thing... You don't know the difference between males and females.
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They're still males w/ psych issues, who've merely altered their appearance. They aren't 'trans' Anything
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@Djordjevic00A Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is respectable. Gender and sex aren't disconnected. Gender is not a social construct. Gender roles are a social construct, and too many are seemingly unable to process that distinction. We're suppose to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe? Why?? They're misgendering themselves. They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior traits. I mean... C'mon now. It's ludicrous.
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@ayano_senpai8619 It varies among cultures, does it not? Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable... That's why sovereign nations have borders. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female.
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@Maksie0 Ridiculous... Trans woman is a term used to described men with issues, who wish they were women-- but aren't
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not interested in anything you have to say, unless it's an explanation as to why you believe those who you're putting your faith in, are correct, when their peers have articulated why they have issues with the conclusions, treatment protocols, and outcomes of their treatment. Why do you dismiss the opposing medical experts and professional's assessment?
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@Roxana Blacksea Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. Gender and sex are intrinsically linked, they're not disconnected. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're not trans ANYTHING. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're LARPing at BEST
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@Roxana Blacksea That's not much of a refutation. No worries. If the shoe fits... You're the same exact gender/sex prior to altering your appearance, as you are after... There's no hate in that. It's just being observant of objective reality.
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Intersex is a birth defect, where the individual has organs of both sexes male & female (Often non-functional) and they do not present another sex in the binary, and for that reason-- they don't invalidate the binary at all. Those with organs from both sexes are extremely rare and NONE are able to reproduce by themselves. Not a new sex/gender Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), with gender
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@Maksie0 The truth can be painful
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When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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@molls127 They represent a birth defect, not another gender in the binary.
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Uh huh... How many kids have you raised to become happy, well-adjusted, productive members of society?
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@Maksie0 Being that all women are born female, how do you figure?
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@babs_babs That's the sound of men and women everywhere, rejecting the incoherent trans-activist ideological narrative for the madness that it is. If you need further verification, ask Disney, Budweiser, and Target
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@orang9134 I luv watching the go woke go broke phenomenon
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@Maksie0 Stay tf away from other people's kids, is what it means
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If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@Maksie0 St00pid isn't the new smart. Get Real Mutilation: Act of physical injury that degrades the appearance and/or function of any living body.
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That dude is emotionally and intellectually stunted
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Hardly... Then there's the issue of prisons, changing rooms, locker rooms, and the fact that they aren't trans anything. Those dudes are men.
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@Maksie0 Which is exactly the same after altering their appearance as it was before they did. Still male or female respectively as they were born, since that condition is fixed and permanent
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@Maksie0 Cry harder troll
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@yyxsm That dude is unhinged from reality, and isn't any kind of 'she'
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@markusbaker1161 I don't support the now woke NBA either, so don't thank me
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@briannachilders772 Woe to the feminists who buy into this... In your near dystopian future you'll be oppressed by men who will claim to be women.
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@Maksie0 No, it doesn't. If you have an issue dealing with objective reality, that in no way alters objective reality.
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@Maksie0 Nope
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@catboyash The only point you have is on your head
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@markusbaker1161 Gender roles are constructed around the biological reality that there are differences between the sexes male and female, respectively. Your subjective trans clown identity doesn't alter your biology.
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@middlechild1267 No worries... 2-sexes/genders and a zillion psych illnesses.
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@globesareround No worries. I wasn't under the impression that you were interested in hearing anything outside of your echo chamber. I was writing for those actually interested.
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@Maksie0 No, it does not. Trans woman is a term used to describe men with issues. Get real
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@markusbaker1161 I'm saying-- There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women, illustrating that your narrative is a totally bogus faith-based belief with zero evidence to support your claim that trans women are women. Checkmate / You lost
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@markusbaker1161 You're only fooling yourself. You have failed. You've not proven your claim that trans women are women. You've not proven that men can become women. Until you do that-- your narratives are void and bogus, without truth or integrity, and are based on nothing more than a cult belief. I won before I started, because I'm correct and you're not. You lost before you started.
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It intellectually bankrupt thinking, on their part
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@mariec3733 Oh ya-- the same way the doctors do in the delivery room. Males have a P, females have a V. It's not complicated at all
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Developmental sex disorders aren't evidence of another sex invalidating the binary of all mammalian species. Gender is not disconnected from biology. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There are people and they are males and females and there are segments of both which present with various birth defects, psych disorders, and some with both-- none of which are evidence of other genders invalidating the binary. It's XX (Female), XY (Male), and a variety of Birth defects/disorders within segments of each ... neither of which display sex organs other than that found in the binary. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@Maksie0 The rate of self-deletion-- even after transition, indicate that the affirmation-based treatment protocols don't help either
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@Maksie0 It's intellectually stunted, and unnecessary since most people aren't trans
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@markusbaker1161 Yes you are, and sadly-- you're triggered by it. You're WRONG about science, medicine and the law-- and apparently have difficulty with observing reality and comprehending what you're observing. Science and medicine has established that all mammals are male or female, respectively-- and that status is fixed and permanent. Black’s Law Dictionary defines woman as “an adult female human being.”
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@mariec3733 Yes, you're highlighting the social aspects of being male or female. Those are well-established since the dawn of time, from culture to culture. Those personality traits and temperament are not gender exclusive, and they don't alter the fact of the biology of males and females is fixed and permanent. Your point doesn't get to the root of the issue that trans women are men, and it certainly does not justify the narrative that trans women are women. That's TOTALLY WRONG. A woman is an adult, human, female. Your commentary doesn't withstand even the slightest bit of scrutiny Cope Harder
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@Maksie0 Cope Harder... it's *He/His, not her
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@Maksie0 No, they aren't-- they're men with issues, pretending that they're women without issues
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@nincscsatorna2671 No, it's *he, and by the way he and she are in fact binary. Take your time to process the fact
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Science and medicine has established that all mammals are male or female, respectively-- and that status is fixed and permanent. Black’s Law Dictionary defines woman as “an adult female human being.” They're Men
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Who he is -- is a dude with issues, pretending to be a woman without issues. The reasons don't change the fact that he's unhinged from reality
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@pm1660 Women (ALL of them) are born female. That unhinged dude wasn't, and isn't any kind of woman.
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@Maksie0 Nobody cares about your preferred pronouns. Cope Harder
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it. A woman isn't a costume, a feeling or a social construct. They conflate gender and personality
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@Maksie0 Nope... Wrong again. Only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females
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They're totally unhinged from reality, in their delusion
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They're narcissists who have no consideration for anyone but themselves
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🎯 Bullseye
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There are males and females.... That's it
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@Maksie0 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL female-- making the use of 'cis' irrelevant, nonsense
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@Maksie0 There is no alternative. There are males and females... That's it. Trans women are Men with issues, pretending that they're women without issues-- Still men. They're not the standard, against which all others are measured. Get a clue The sound you're hearing is the rejection of your trans-activist ideological narrative. You better learn to cope.
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@Bambibel It's unadulterated misogyny. Those are men, they will always be men. Their imaginations and subjective personality traits and temperament don't change the fact that those being referred to as 'trans women' aren't trans anything-- They're men
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How's that going to work in situations like stadiums, convention centers, locker rooms, showers, changing rooms and it does nothing to address women being displaced re; scholarships, sports, sports teams, or prisons
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@Maksie0 Only in Fantasyland is that dude a 'she'
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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If they can't accept themselves for what they are, I refuse to accept them for what they're not. They're not trans anything. Altering your appearance and a costume change doesn't make him a her. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@Maksie0 If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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@leila4509 Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous and they are not.
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@markusbaker1161 No. I responded actually being willing to have a two-way dialogue. You aim to agitate. IF gender is a mere social construct, as you suggest-- and disconnected from biology (I disagree), then transgender is a mere social construct, which in NO WAY justifies granting access to those men into women's private spaces such as dressing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, sports teams or prisons, if it has NOTHING to do with biology. Make it make sense. You got anything? It seems like an incoherent bit of madness for those who advocate such a thing
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@markusbaker1161 Doesn't matter... You're wrong. Science is the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained.
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The gender pretenders did what they all do and conflate gender with personality traits and temperament
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@MELLO_femmyx It was merely an analogy, and race is WAY more of a spectrum than gender
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@MELLO_femmyx It's like black face for women. They're caricaturing women. Personality traits and temperament are different things than gender, and they're conflating them and acting as though they're synonymous-- and they're just not.
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@markusbaker1161 I recognize fact from fiction
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@markusbaker1161 Well, that's certainly not a refutation. I discern science from science-fiction and recognize women's rights to privacy
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@markusbaker1161 Again-- Not a refutation. Why do you so casually dismiss women's rights? You do not honor the desires of women
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@yellowtaipan-g3t I'm not going to ignore what I can observe with my own eyes, and promote make believe, or cater to feelings by pretending that the identity of people who identify as something they're not in reality, are somehow valid. They're still men, or women-- respectively Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, parody of female behavior or personality traits.
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@Maksie0 Your absence of integrity, evading answering questions, and no evidence whatsoever of a coherent argument anywhere to be found-- is uncanny. Your agenda is twisted
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@Maksie0 Your narratives are incoherent madness. Your opinion is rejected for being less than useless whinging and your screeching nonsense only highlights your disconnect from reality.
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@Maksie0 How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@Ey3_s0cEt.4.20. An adult, human, female-- and those men aren't
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Gender: There are 2, Male and female. Gender roles are social constructs-- Not gender, hence trans being a social construct-- making the statement 'trans women are women' absurd and removed from objective reality. They're men
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@Plaggy77 It seems your statements prove the binary, as the only two possibilities. Am I missing something relevant?
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@MoonshineH It is redundant, as there are only males and females. Segments of each present with birth defects and psych issues, neither of which invalidate the binary of all mammalian species
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@MoonshineH No, actually the conversation was about the hypocrisy of those who insist on preferred pronouns, while disrespecting the wishes of those who they expect consideration from. Gender and sex are not disconnected. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. You appear to be inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@MoonshineH Using that logic, calling a 'transwoman' he/him shouldn't offend them for the same reason. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are-- after Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent, and how they feel about it, changes nothing whatsoever in objective reality
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These people are quite literally the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after. They aren't trans ANYTHING
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@Hotrodchef89 I recommend re-reading, only..... s l o w e r (this time), so you don't miss it again, as I've already explained it. Unfortunately, I can't do anything to remedy your reading comprehension deficit. Best of luck with that
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@But...WhyTho The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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@Maksie0 Stop projecting. No confusion here, troll. Science and medicine has established that all mammals are male or female, respectively-- and that status is fixed and permanent. Black’s Law Dictionary defines woman as “an adult female human being.” Changing what they call these men doesn't alter reality WTF is confusing you and your perception of reality?
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@beyoncesdaughter9128 Not much of a refutation. You really need to be better
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They're not "trans" anything. Still Human, Still Male or Female as they were when they were born, respectively -- just what amounts to an elaborate disguise in the gender binary
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@EvaLoVerde That's not much of a refutation. Men cannot become women and vice versa. Cope harder
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@EvaLoVerde Not denying anyone's existence. Just acknowledging that they are not that which they claim to be
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@EvaLoVerde Nothing phobic about recognizing that someone isn't that which the claim to be. It just makes me observant Your arguments simply do not withstand scrutiny
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@EvaLoVerde That's not a refutation of my very 1st comment or my last either. Men cannot become women, and vice versa. Look, It's XX, XY, Birth Defect, Psych Disorder. That's it! Cope harder Which words don't I understand? You should quit while you're behind
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@EvaLoVerde What words? C'mon? 🦗🦗🦗🦗 Quit your whining
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There's No fear from conservatives in recognizing that you're not that which you claim to be. it just makes them observant
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@EvaLoVerde My kid is in his mid-30's junior. You're clueless
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@Maksie0 The truth matters
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@pheonixxxrose My issue is discerning reality vs their subjective, delusional self-identity which mocks it
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@ramsyangel5563 In all fairness though, it's because he is still a male.
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The ENTIRE trans-activist ideological narrative is incoherent madness. Trans women are MEN with issues-- pretending that they're women without issues
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@Maksie0 You think there's a lot of trans people who are conservative do you?
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@markusbaker1161 None of them are women either. Get a clue
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@markusbaker1161 Don't care about their psych issues. They're biological men
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, you said it wasn't about chromosomes and biology, so they're just men presenting as women-- the reasons are irrelevant. What's the confusion, on your end?
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@markusbaker1161 Hence-- transgender being a social construct, which doesn't alter biological sex at all. Gender refers to the sex observed/assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. The social aspects of male and female roles are well established. Gender and Gender Roles aren't the same thing.
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@Maksie0 No, they aren't trans anything. They're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance- as they are after, not unlike a drag queen.
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@Maksie0 How does this still confuse you? It doesn't... You're an activist troll, agent provocateur. This has been explained to you several times. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the use of cis irrelevant and useless.
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@Nathancant1953 Blossoms colorful imagination and altering his appearance doesn't make him a woman
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@Nathancant1953 Sorry cupcake, there's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Quit conflating personality with gender.
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@Maksie0 No, they're not. What are you slow or something?
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@markusbaker1161 Never said it was. Guys presenting as 'other than guys' exist. Women presenting as 'other than women' exist too. They're still guys, or women, respectively though...
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@Maksie0 That's okay... Now you know better
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@markusbaker1161 Okay... That's your opinion, not anything proving me incorrect-- But Thanks for playing
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@markusbaker1161 They're biological men.
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We're suppose to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe? Why??
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@Maksie0 Your absence of integrity, evading answering questions, and no evidence whatsoever of a coherent argument anywhere to be found-- is uncanny, Blossom. Your agenda is twisted
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@Maksie0 Gender and sex aren't disconnected. Gender is NOT a social construct. Gender roles are the social constructs and they're well-established, which is why the counter-culture trans-narrative is itself the real construct and you seem unable to process that distinction. Your inability to process the truth of it, doesn't invalidate the truth. We're not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe, or cater to feelings. NO! Just... No They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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Gender and sex aren't disconnected. Gender is not a social construct. Gender roles are a social construct, and too many are seemingly unable to process that distinction. We're suppose to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe? Why?? They're misgendering themselves. They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior traits. I mean... C'mon now. It's ludicrous.
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Why the need to expose children to hyper-s3xu@l adult activities like pride parades and the like? F'n gr00mers gfy
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Still XX, XY... That's it
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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I just have to laugh at your confused, indoctrination. You dudes, look and sound ridiculous. There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions. Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are
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Looks more like James Brown
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@babs_babs In other news trans, lgbtq/trans-activist, and BLM activist sh00ts 9 and killz 5. Boy were you wrong
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I just wanted to point out that you were not born a woman. You were born a female. You had to develop into a woman, being that a woman is an adult, human, female. ;)
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@markusbaker1161 It means something that isn't true, or founded in reality-- Got it
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@markusbaker1161 Not in ANY reality. The subjective feelings of someone w/ psych issues, doesn't change their biology, and those who claim trans-women are women-- are just absurdly wrong.
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@markusbaker1161 Men w/ psych issues pretending to be that which they can never be (Women) do exist. They're still men
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Women are adult, human females-- not a social construct. Trans is the social construct. Wake up people
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@mariec3733 Women are not a social construct. When you and others who say trans women are women... That is exactly the implication, and it is absent logic and reason. I don't accept that gender and sex are disconnected. That being said, even if presuming it was true-- explain the logic of granting access to biological men who consider themselves as 'other than men' to women's private spaces.
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@mariec3733 Why then, should those biological men be granted access to women's private spaces?
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Nonsense. They're arguing that he isn't that which he claims to be. That's just being observant of objective reality. Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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They don't respect themselves.
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Along with weak parents who substantiate this madness
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There are people, and they are male or female. They both have segments which present w/ birth defects and others with various psych disorders, some w/ both. They aren't trans ANYTHING. They're the same sex/gender prior to surgery altering their appearance and chemistry, as they are after. All they're doing is altering their appearance.
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@becky14 Reminder, a phobia is an irrational fear of something. There's nothing phobic about recognizing that you aren't that which you claim to be... That just makes one observant
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@becky14 Are you aware that your comments are being shadow banned? Try logging out and revisit the comment section while logged out, and see what's actually visible to everyone else. That, or you're commenting then immediately deleting your own comments. Either way-- best of luck w/ that cognitive dissonance and that massive reading comprehension deficit
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@Maksie0 How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@markusbaker1161 Science and medicine has established that all mammals are male or female, respectively-- and that status is fixed and permanent. Black’s Law Dictionary defines woman as “an adult female human being.” Your confusion is clear
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Psych malfunctions galore. They're not trans anything.
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@empresscrafts689 Like I said, Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. All they're doing is altering their appearance and body chemistry. Identities which conflict with biology, are those of people w/ various psych issues who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition. Affirming that individual's dissociative state as valid isn't justified, nor helpful-- evidenced by the stats showing that they have a self-termination rate nearly 10x's higher than the accounted for norm, even after they alter their appearance. They're not 'Trans' ANYTHING whatsoever. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are-- after. The societal and cultural aspects that you're referring to, are those of personality traits and temperament (which aren't gender exclusive-- hence butch females, effeminate males, and tomboys). No, for those reasons the incoherent activist ideology and narratives don't pass scrutiny.
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They're psych cases who also happen to be self-centered, narcissists who care only about themselves
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@conor.3875 Then justify granting them access to women's private spaces
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@mjchronicles1438 Nah... Respect is Earned, and is reserved for that which is actually respectable-- or it'd be meaningless
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@Maksie0 Seems as though there are more comments which disagree with you than agree. They are men disguised as women
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@urmomspussyhair The problem w/ your virtue signaling, is the total lack of any actual virtue. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. *He
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They aren't 'trans' anything whatsoever. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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@AdrianP225 Yes, I believe that is the 'Technical' term
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The arguments of those with mental disorders are stunted for a reason
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@urmomspussyhair You really didn't have to go out of your way to prove the point.
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@amandabynes5993 Trying to normalize mental illness is horrible
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@mariec3733 Trans is the fringe-- women aren't the opposite of trans, they're the standard which trans women are trying to emulate-- making the cis distinction entirely irrelevant and redundant
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@maximeminassian6002 It's actually irrelevant, since all women are born female
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@maximeminassian6002 It's a term used in chemistry used to describe the position of certain molecules to others, and has nothing whatsoever to do with gender. You seem to be motivated to push an incoherent, cult agenda, and narrative-- acting as an agent provocateur, incapable of discerning the fact that all women are born female, that all men are born male, and that there are exactly zero exceptions. Best of luck with that Cope Harder, and seethe if you must
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Pro gun argument
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@mariec3733 That wasn't the point. Laws don't prevent criminals from committing crimes-- was the point
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They're merely caricatures of that which they wish they were, and will never be. It looks like they still haven't figured out that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender yet. They also haven't figured out that gender isn't disconnected from sex, rather is intrinsically linked
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No what is observed by the physician is then assigned by the physician-- on the certificate of live birth
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@markusbaker1161 the truth
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@natedenbleyker1545 The doctor is the agent of the state, which assigns the observed status with their signature, on the certificate of live birth
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@markusbaker1161 No, it isn't. He said you're "not assigned male or female", and that is incorrect
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Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. The thing is, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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That condition of being male is fixed and permanent. They're merely caricatures of what they wish they were-- and can never be
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@markusbaker1161 Are you??? Do you think you need to be a veterinarian to be able to discern the difference between a dog and a cat? You don't need to be a doctor to recognize the difference between a male and a female, when you see one. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Too bad you can't ban ignorance and mental illness Do you think gay, lesbian and bisexual people have to be doctors to recognize the differences between males and females? Get Real! Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 Not upset in the least. I notice you haven't refuted anything, or answered anything. I recommend being relevant, in the future
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@markusbaker1161 No worries. I wasn't trying to persuade you. I figured you weren't even as deep as a baby spoon, but gave you the benefit of the doubt to rise to the occasion, only to discover that I was correct with my initial assessment.
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@markusbaker1161 It looks like you/they still haven't figured out that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender yet. You and those wanting others to use your/their preferred pronouns and all, it's on you to persuade, and so far-- you've failed to make a case
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@markusbaker1161 Look at you-- trying to be edgy, while making substance-free comments; It's HILARIOUS. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual virtue. Do Better
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@markusbaker1161 It's been fun exposing you as a troll, who's depth is dwarfed by a baby spoon
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@markusbaker1161 Again-- I suggest being relevant. You started by stating, "It’s strange that some people think there’s an agenda that’s out to get their kids indoctrinated "; As if you're unaware of the news stories, and video clips all over the internet of those with that very agenda, admitting it. You seem to prefer to argue for sport, than to have a substantive dialogue-- evidenced by your interactions so far. Again, just an observation... You're Dismissed for lack of substance and relevance. Carry On
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@markusbaker1161 You sure do comment a lot and say nothing of substance. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Enjoy your snow globe echo chamber
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@markusbaker1161 The fact that I recognize that they are factually not that which they claim isn't a matter of disliking what's different-- It merely a matter of being observant of objective reality. Is saying, "Whatever you’re going on about isn’t relevant because it’s your personal opinion" what you recommend as a reply for those insisting on their preferred pronouns too?
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So many worrying about parenting other people's children. It'd be great if they parented their own
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Believe me, it wouldn't be accepted wholeheartedly by most. Sleep well
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@markusbaker1161 Don't be lazy. Do your own research. If you think you can debunk what I said-- Go for it. You haven't yet. No trace of an explanation of why you believe what you assert to be true and accurate, or to prove what I said to be inaccurate-- That's certain. Those hacks you refer to as experts are challenged by their peers in the medical community, who take issue with the ethics and treatment protocols of those who you put your faith in. Your cult is rejected.
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Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are inappropriately confusing and conflating gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous and they are not, while simultaneously insisting that biological sex and gender are disconnected-- while failing to realize that a subjective identity doesn't alter anyone's biological reality. Lost souls
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@markusbaker1161 No, it's what you're peddling that I'm challenging. Why do you believe the "experts" you're putting your faith in, are correct? Did they graduate at the top or bottom of their class? What of the challenges by their peers on the subject matter? No, I reject your pushed cult narrative as total nonsense. Do you have any original thoughts on the matter? If not, save your self the time
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@Maksie0 There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female, which makes the use of cis/trans intellectually bankrupt.
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@mariec3733 You conflate social constructs with biology, when you say trans women are women. It's patently absurd and totally incorrect. Women aren't a social construct; trans however, IS. Those are men Your cult narrative is rejected.
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@mariec3733 I reject your pushed cult narrative as total nonsense. You say sex and gender are separate; making the point that one's subjective gender identity doesn't alter their biology. Referring to these men as 'she' is grammatically incorrect, and absent any basis in reality-- since one's subjective feelings doesn't transform their sex. Women aren't a social construct, while on the other hand-- Men, portraying themselves as women and who are referring to themselves as trans are men, presenting in the capacity of a social construct. How does that entitle them to be considered women? Answer: It doesn't Cope Harder
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@Maksie0 You spelled Transvestites wrong. How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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Why would someone who believes they're a woman wish to have the 'trans' distinction drawn? That's Odd
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@Maksie0 It's entirely ridiculous, since there's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females. Those men weren't, born females and never will be women. A woman isn't a costume, a feeling, or a social construct. A woman is an adult, human, female-- now you know better. Also, quit conflating gender and personality. It makes you not only wrong but it makes you appear unhinged and intellectually stunted
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@Maksie0 Nothing you wrote changes the fact that there is only i kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making your focus on using cis intellectually vacant.
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Being mentally unhinged from reality, they can and do
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@JJ-kc3sq They use the word "trans women" instead of "men" too
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@conor.3875 The standard already has a word, and it's woman. A woman is an adult, human, female.
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@conor.3875 Men are men, women are women. Those are biological categories. Men are not women and women are not men. It's really not complicated. That status is permanent and fixed.
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@conor.3875 Why do you think that males and females are social categories?
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@conor.3875 I recommend reading a science book on basic human biology
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@conor.3875 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Gender, gender roles, personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous-- but you can pretend they are-- BUT-- it doesn't make it so. I'm not the one crying because not everyone is fooled into thinking you're a woman, or when others aren't willing to pretend that I'm something I'm not-- insisting on preferred pronoun usage, in conflict with objective reality. I'm still doing GREAT. Happy, retired, and financially independant with a well-adjusted family.
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@conor.3875 The social aspects you're referring to do not alter one's biology-- so why should those men be granted access into women's private spaces?
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@mariec3733 What's the point you're making by saying gender is not the same as sex? That one's gender doesn't alter their biology?? That one's gender identity doesn't impact their sex?
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@mariec3733 I know, which is why those men aren't justified in any way, to be granted access into women's private spaces
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@conor.3875 All that's possible is to alter their appearance. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@conor.3875 Restrooms, sports teams, dressing rooms, prisons and such are designed and implemented based on biology, not subjective imaginary personas or identities.
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@mariec3733 The world couldn't care less how you identify subjectively, contrary to objective reality.
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@conor.3875 We? I think there are a lot more people who reject your narrative, than support it. The time for your delusional nonsense is nearing an end
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Yet, the sui*idality numbers have gone up over the decades, not down-- despite the stigma of being gay having nearly evaporated
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@markusbaker1161 Don't need to. The stats have already shown the numbers going up
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@markusbaker1161 No need... You haven't proven men can become women, and until you do that-- your entire narrative is bogus
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@boobsmcgee5897 Why, according to you should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams??
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@markusbaker1161 I asked a question. I didn't make a declaration. The majority of the comments in the comment section here, don't seem to agree with you. hmmm
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@Maksie0 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females-- making the cis distinction entirely useless, redundant and irrelevant. How does that elude you so often??
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@markusbaker1161 In the real world- the objective reality of men and women is fixed and permanent and they aren't able to change their sex and their imagination doesn't make them something else
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@markusbaker1161 In the real world, women are women and men are men-- regardless of how they self-identify.
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@markusbaker1161 In the real world, it Doesn't make them that which they're portraying. Best of luck with your cognitive dissonance
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That dude is unhinged from reality
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@Hawrushe Context and perspective seem to give the advocates so much difficulty. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally because of a psych disorder or for attention, or Both.
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@Maksie0 You've not persuaded anyone that you're correct. You Fail That dude is unhinged from reality, like you
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More than that... they're inappropriately misappropriating it from women. Woe to the feminists who buy into there incoherent ideological narratives, as in their not too distant future, they'll be dealing with being oppressed by tyrannical men who will claim they're women
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They both involve men presenting as something they're not and can never be-- ie. Women
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@katiekateaf So what? I find them hilariously entertaining. The salient point that seems to elude you is-- They're Still men (in this video) portraying themselves as something they're not, and can never be ie. women.
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@fable_enthusiast If you listen really carefully, you hear that sound? That's the sound of reality, pointing out your incoherent, ideological narratives being rejected by men, and women everywhere. Don't believe me?? Ask Budweiser
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@MarshallllWalker There are no trans humans. There are males and females. That's it... Now you know. A woman isn't a costume that men can put on, and she isn't a social construct. Update your understanding to comprehend the fact that personality and gender aren't synonymous
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@fable_enthusiast Men with dysphoria are still men. They are not women. That the concept is not clear to you is odd
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@fable_enthusiast Male / Female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Once a male, always a male. If their identity requires me or anyone else to deny objective reality, and my participation in their cosplay and LARPing, using their preferred pronouns etc... Too bad, so sad-- that identity is not valid
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Tell me, why should a male, be granted access to female's private spaces like dressing rooms, locker rooms, sports teams, restrooms and prisons?
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@markusbaker1161 A suggested response to preferred pronouns, no doubt
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@markusbaker1161 To you Blossom, No doubt
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@Maksie0 HA HA THAT's Wrong.
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@Theforce8888 That fool drank all the cult Koolaid.
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@Maksie0 No-- they are not. You keep ignorantly saying that w/ such conviction. It's pretty funny. Women who are trans are called trans men. Update your material
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@littlepoodle7443 I hate to break it to you, but a woman isn't a costume that men can simply put on. Women aren't a social construct. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female, and those men weren't. Now you know
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@asia3882 Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Gender and Personality-- They haven't learned the difference. There's only one kind of woman, and they are all born females, so... using the cis prefix is totally redundant and unnecessary. The entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. There are males and females. That's it! Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct; She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals specifically humans.
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@ianwallace7704 There's only 1 kind of woman, and she's born female. Those men were not
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@ianwallace7704 There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females. Those dudes weren't and will never be women. They're imposters posing as something they're not
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@TorbieGinger Not even close. ALL real women are born females. Those males who you say are real women, are not any kind of woman. Cope and seethe harder
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@TorbieGinger No they aren't. In order to be a woman one must 1st be born female, then grow up into adulthood
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@bryant2611 There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the cis descriptor less than useless
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@replitzit No, still a he.
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There is no such thing as 'trans'. There are people, and people are male or female... That's it
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It kind of is similarly science vs science-fiction
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@catboyash That's is totally wrong
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@catboyash You haven't made the case for why someone who's XY should be considered XX (As would necessarily be the case, to substantiate the statement that trans women are women) or trans XX. Why not try being relevant for a change?
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@Maksie0 The logic it takes to say that someone who has a host of other behavioral/mental disorders (as nearly all dealing with transgenderism do) and is willing to mutilate themselves in irreversible fashion to achieve a status wherein they're still dozens of times more likely to commit sui**de ISN'T mental illness, is amazingly twisted. Insert any other condition and any other incessant desire to self-harm and there would be no dispute whatsoever.
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@markusbaker1161 More avoiding the substantive content, from you. shocker
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@markusbaker1161 fool... Women aren't a social construct. Trans is a social construct.
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@markusbaker1161 Yes it does. Cope Harder. If gender was merely a social construct and disconnected from biology (it is not), then trans is just a mere social construct-- and it doesn't invalidate biology. The law defines a woman as an adult, human, female. The males you're referring to as trans women, aren't that. Not at all. They're still men. They will always be men, and nothing you or anyone else can do or say about it will change that fact. Medicine and science note the biological differences between the sexes/genders (all 2 of them-- male and female).
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@markusbaker1161 No, it does not. Trans however, is a social construct that in no way invalidates biology
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@markusbaker1161 You said trans women are women. Looks like you're saying women are a social construct, and I wouldn't put it past you dear-- you haven't made any coherent case yet-- to support that statement or to explain the logic behind it.
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@markusbaker1161 You want more copy paste? You're still mad because you got owned again and again... re: your lack of integrity and inability to articulate your logic or make an intelligent case. Your stalking makes it seem like you're Blossoms lover w/ a grudge. It's okay for you to be gay
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@markusbaker1161 When questioned about it, you refused to explain the lack of logic behind your adoption of the narrative talking points. When corrected, regarding the law, when given the legal definition of a woman YOU ignored it. When pointed out that science distinguishes the differences between the sexes, you switch to talking about social constructs, insisting that women are a social construct. That is anti-science dear. The problem you have is-- you and the narratives you present are wrong, and you haven't attempted to make it make sense-- when challenged on your claims and the claims of others that you promote.
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@markusbaker1161 And I don't answer to you, but still-- unlike you, I'm am able and willing to articulate why I believe what I do, while happily debunking your talking points. If you refuse to engage in conversation with integrity and explain why you believe what you believe to be true and correct, why should ANYONE take you seriously? (rhetorical). I've dismissed your relevance a long while ago due to your lacking integrity and incoherent messaging and you've proven me correct in my assessment every step of the way. I will wear that label like a badge of honor
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@markusbaker1161 You stated that trans women are women. They are in fact, not. They are men. Then you deflect to say gender and sex are separate, while failing to articulate why those men should be granted access to women's private spaces, considering that males and females are biological categories which are fixed and permanent, not social constructs. No everything you said is nonsense
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@markusbaker1161 Biology isn't a social construct, so how do you figure the notion a trans woman is a woman makes sense to you? A woman is not a social construct.
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@markusbaker1161 When you said trans women (a social construct) are women (a biological category). The two are not synonymous
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@markusbaker1161 Yet, you continue to connect them as though they weren't separate, by incorrectly phrasing your statement "trans women are women". Trans women are not biological women, and women aren't a social construct-- So how do you figure those men (since gender is according to you disconnected from sex), are women? Incoherent idiocy on your part
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@markusbaker1161 Trans women are not women-- they're men. You can pretend otherwise if you like-- BUT it isn't making them women or any less men, AT ALL. You being wrong and insisting that gender and sex are different doesn't surprise me anymore-- it illustrates the giant gaping hole in your capacity for logic and reason.
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@markusbaker1161 Wrong
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@markusbaker1161 I already have, to my satisfaction.
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@Maksie0 Trans lady's 1st
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@@malaika777 That dude is a trans-activist agent provocateur, and he hates me because I have destroyed all of his narratives, and I recognize his nonsense and call it out whenever I see it.
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@DefiledDame They're the one's who get triggered over pronouns etc..., I'm not the one that needs to cope harder. LOL
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I would've crushed that fool in a debate. It looks like they still haven't figured out that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender yet.
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As is often the case with those who have psych issues
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@dogenjoyer2480 Ya, because regardless or choosing to chemically castrate themselves, and / or alter their physical appearance, or claiming a subjective gender identity, and choosing to wear a dress, portraying a stereotypical caricature of the opposite sex-- they're men. ALL men are born male, all women are born female and that state is fixed and permanent as it is with all mammalian species-- and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference, personality trait or temperament, or a costume.
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Just being observant of the difference between reality and fantasy
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@Maksie0 There's only 1 kind of woman and they're all born females. You know this, making the use of the cis prefix totally irrelevant, and an intentional slur, intending to provoke, agitate and incite a negative response. That approach didn't work well for Budweiser, and it isn't going to work out well for you either
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@Maksie0 Better get used to the rejection... or correct your thinking
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@conor.3875 Women are born females, and those dudes weren't. Men can't be women
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@conor.3875 No, it isn't. You seem to be unaware of the fact that the exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule; they prove the rule true by being the exceptions. Now you know
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It's the 1st stage of trans-humanism
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Highlighting only their ignorance
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I think it's more simple than that. They self-delete because they've got various other psych issues going on.
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Yup... woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology as in their near dystopian futures they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men who will claim they're women-- and they don't seem to see it coming. smh
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Gender and personality are two different things too, but they conflate them as though they're synonymous-- and they're not
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They not considered women by people who haven't lost their eye sight, along with their capacity for reason
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You conflate social constructs with biology, when you say trans women are women. It's patently absurd and totally incorrect
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@mariec3733 You don't have to. Like I told you, I used to work w/ the developmentally disabled and they could tell the difference between men and women-- what's your excuse for the confusion?
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@mariec3733 No, you don't. Look, men can't become women, and women cannot become men. It's really not complicated. That you fail to realize that the exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule-- they prove the rule by being the exception is on you. Your failure to recognize that about intersex disorders is a YOU problem.
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@mariec3733 Then, quit incorrectly stating that trans women are women. They are not.
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@mariec3733 That's why the statement 'trans women are women' is patently absurd and false.
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@mariec3733 I know they're not women. You keep saying trans women are women, while maintaining that they're not biological women. A woman isn't a social construct, so make it make sense
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@mariec3733 They're men in reality, portraying a socially constructed persona and image-- based in fantasy like LARPing in cosplay. Still men
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@mariec3733 Prove me wrong, if you think you can. When some hairy dude in a dress is screaming, "It's MA'AM" verifying their DNA isn't required by most people. What's your excuse for the confusion???
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@mariec3733 You didn't answer my questions, so that's what you get. I don't need DNA verification to recognize that a male is a male or that a female is a female. Why do you? Even a baby knows the difference at feeding time. Do Better
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@mariec3733 You're ridiculous. You said that, not me-- when you said trans women are women.
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@mariec3733 Seeing the results of DNA and chromosomes forming males and/or females doesn't require an electron microscope to decipher the differences.
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Why, according to you-- should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim that they're women.
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@markusbaker1161 Not an answer to the question-- Again. Bottom line-- You can't
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@markusbaker1161 My question posed to the OP is clearly visible. Care to take a shot at answering it? Why should men (whether you rename them Trans-women or not-- that's what they are or traditional biological men) be granted access to women's private spaces, based on their subjective identity claims, which aren't reflected in reality?? Nothing still? Shocker... 🙄
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not. I was asking, if that is what you believe-- Why should they be granted access to those women's spaces, being that they're still men, and since restrooms are designed-- based on biology, not feelings or subjective identity??
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@thatbicatlady No, that's me pointing out that NO men should be granted to women's spaces regardless of their feelings about their self-proclaimed feelings about their subjective identity
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@markusbaker1161 Evidence?
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, trans women are still men, who've merely altered their appearance. This is not a complex equation
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@thatbicatlady How are they-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? And I asked, Why should those men who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria be granted access to women's private spaces?
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The point is to establish the truth and debunking the nonsense that is the trans activist ideology, is the path
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@ladyinblack3398 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female. Those dudes weren't
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@becky14 The prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female and trans women are not that. Are you able to cite any evidence that shows trans women are not biological men? I see them as synonymous
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@Maksie0 It has nothing to do with transgenderism.
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@dawnbeaird5183 Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it by replacing you
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@Maksie0 That sound you're hearing is the sound of women rejecting your ideological narrative, terminology and calling it out for what it is-- bull 💩
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Nope, a woman is an adult, human female.
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@happylittleacident Your question was, "so does this make these women less of a woman> should the definition of a woman be her ability to have a baby?" My response answered your question with a clear no, AND THEN I provided the correct definition of a woman for you. Is there a problem?
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@happylittleacident No, not at all
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@markusbaker1161 You said trans women are women. Looks like you're saying women are a social construct, and I wouldn't put it past you dear-- you haven't made any coherent case yet-- to support that statement or to explain the logic behind it.
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@markusbaker1161 You're the one promoting the insane ideas as fact, so it's coming from you.
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@markusbaker1161 Your argumentative interactions proves otherwise
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@markusbaker1161 How cute... But your approval isn't required nor valued
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Not surprising when dealing with the mentally ill. The thing is, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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That dude sounds like a confused, intellectually stunted, and morally bankrupt fool
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@Maksie0 All women are born female, and all men are born male, making the use of cis/trans irrelevant, and intellectually vacant.
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@firstofawll Reality for women being attacked in women's rooms by men claiming to be trans is a matter of record. Whats your point?
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No... Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@allyomeally-watson3285 No worries... We, as a society don't have to deny objective reality to protect the 'Feelings' of those with psych issues
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@murakami3602 Perhaps because only they can do it, and it makes the human race possible?
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@Maksie0 No one gives a crap how you identify but you. There is only one kind of woman, and she's born female. Learn it. Know it. Live it
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@crystalcole2674 They inappropriately conflate gender and sex. Then they inappropriately conflate gender and gender roles. Then they inappropriately conflate personality traits and temperament with gender. Ya, it's absurd. They fail to realize that if their identity relies upon the participation of others denying objective reality-- that those identities are invalid.
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@Maksie0 Not... How do you keep getting that wrong? Women who are trans are trans men, according to (exhibit A) -- Your very own incoherent cult narrative. Come on-- get it straight
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@crystalcole2674 If you want to have a deeper look, scroll down the comment section and see the comments these trolls have made. I swear it's as though they're trying to prove beyond all doubt that their collective IQ's are dwarfed by their shoe size
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@crystalcole2674 😏
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@Bound2chaos2 Exactly Correct. 1 Million up votes
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Why would someone who believes they're a woman wish to have the trans distinction drawn? That's Odd
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@oyleday0195 I’m not delusional::::says the person who chooses to chop off their body parts, thinking it'll change their sex.
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@oyleday0195 Then their expectations of the use of their preferred pronouns by others, in opposition to objective reality are absurd and totally narcissistic.
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@oyleday0195 You know what else is totally different-- Objective reality. That's the disconnect from truth. They can identify as 15' tall and that doesn't make it so either. They're not trans anything. Still Human, Still Male or Female as they were when they were born, respectively -- just not the opposite sex in the gender binary any more than a drag queen is
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@oyleday0195 2- genders... that's it. You seem to be inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@oyleday0195 Not arguing... Exposing the incoherent narratives for what they are
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@oyleday0195 People with mental problems don't get to dictate reality to those who see things for what they are. Your "Requirements" creates ZERO obligation of others. To expect that others need to perceive you and affirm you as you see yourself, contrary to objective reality is the height of narcissism
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@oyleday0195 They don't transition into another gender. Gender is the the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female. Male and female are biological categories, not psychological categories-- which happen to be fixed and permanent. You could have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, prescribe hormones, and recommend a fashion consultant and makeup specialists and it wouldn't make you an actual Klingon, and if you thought it did-- you're delusional
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@Maksie0 Mulvaney??
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@Maksie0 Then, why have you run like a coward, instead of answering my question?? Your 'because you said so' standard has been issued exactly ZERO credibility, so you're going to have to do much better than that to make your case. You Fail to persuade
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@Maksie0 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. If you could process the facts, and weren't acting like an activist -- reality wouldn't be so confusing for you
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@Maksie0 Kick Rocks f00l. You, apparently don't even comprehend the differences between men and women. Your capacity to comprehend the answers, seeing as how you keep saying the same intellectually stunted slogans over and over, seems unlikely-- seeing as I already answered you and you're still asking for the answer.
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@fable_enthusiast Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1.) Your body and brain develop & grow together -> You simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2.) Hating a part of you body so much, that you cut it off, is a mental illness.
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@markusbaker1161 Untwist the knot in your thong, Blossom
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@markusbaker1161 The similarity of the absence of integrity, evading answering questions, and of a coherent argument is uncanny, Blossom.
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Irrelevant, what someone delusional individual with a mental disorder believes, when objective reality conflicts with their imaginations run wild-- in terms of it's impact on reality. They aren't trans ANYTHING. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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@bokboman Their problem is predicated on the notion that all of society (The vast majority) must affirm their self-perceived, subjective identities-- contrary to objective reality, making their identity invalid
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@markusbaker1161 Not my problem. I'm the one they're trying to persuade to affirm their delusional self-perception, as though it's based in reality by insisting on their preferred pronouns etc., are used. Looks like their problem to me. There's no hate in recognizing that they are not that which they claim to be. That's just being observant
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Gender and sex aren't disconnected rather are intrinsically linked.
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Those self-centered narcissists couldn't care less.
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@Maksie0 Yes, it is-- and Yes, it is. Women are women, and men are men-- regardless of how they self-identify, so using cis is redundant and none of anyone's concern but yours
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@markusbaker1161 Next you'll want proof that schizophrenia is a mental illness. The only one fooled is you
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@markusbaker1161 The DSM has already articulated why and how it's a psych disorder, until 5 seconds ago-- when the activist political hacks changed categories despite outspoken doctors taking issue with the decisions.
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@markusbaker1161 There's no need. If anything I said were false-- anyone could come along and prove that-- but neither you nor anyone else has so what I said stands
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Evidence?
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@ElanaVital83 Just some perspective-- The rate of self-deleting, even after transition-- shows they aren't that happy.
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@ElanaVital83 A quick search shows the rate is horrible, and it doesn't reflect that the affirmation treatment protocols currently in the main stream are very effective at all. Quite the contrary
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@ElanaVital83 Their capacity for logic, reason, critical thinking, and intelligent analytical capacity is impaired so severely-- that expecting them to reach intellectually sound conclusions isn't in and of itself logical or reasonable. I mean, they can't grasp the fact that the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. They totally get it wrong on gender. Then, they conflate personality with gender. Then, they conflate gender, temperament and personality with gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate males with females. Then, they conflate men with women. Then, they conflate reality with imaginary fiction.
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@Maksie0 Rejection... You better get use to it. You fail to persuade
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@Maximum_unknowns That dude is a trans-activist troll
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@jupiterfox7683 The brain and body develop simultaneously, so it isn't actually possible to be born into the wrong body. That's a fact
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@jupiterfox7683 The same DNA that forms your body forms your brain. If your subjective identity relies on others denying objective reality, and requires the participation of others in your little bubble-- then your identity is invalid. Your ideology is incoherent. You get it wrong on gender. Then you conflate gender with personality traits and temperament as though they're synonymous-- and they are not. Then, you conflate gender and gender roles. Then, you conflate males with females
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@jupiterfox7683 If as you suggest, gender and sex aren't connected (That's incorrect)-- justify those biological men being granted access to women's private spaces. You can't because they aren't. I already told you,quit conflating gender with personality. They aren't synonymous. Look, Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and relates to the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Gender and Personality-- They haven't learned the difference. There's only one kind of woman, and they are all born females, so... using the cis prefix is totally redundant and unnecessary. The entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh There are males and females. That's it! Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct; She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals-- specifically, humans.
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@jupiterfox7683 From Black's law dictionary-- Woman: An adult, human, female
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@jupiterfox7683 You can choose to have a surgeon alter your appearance to appear like a Klingon from Star Trek, put on makeup, and a Klingon wardrobe and it doesn't make you a Klingon-- BUT-- if you believe it does, you're detached from reality
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@jupiterfox7683 How then, is that a justification for granting males access to females private spaces??? Answer: It is not
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@jupiterfox7683 Again, that's not justifying men being granted access to women's private spaces. Your argument is out of gas. Regarding people, they are male or female, respectively. That's it! You're incorrectly discussing and confusing personality traits (which are not gender exclusive) and gender roles, which again-- are roles related to being male or female, respectively, with gender. Gender, there are 2. Personality traits and temperament-- there are a ton of variety. They're not synonymous. Learn the differences
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Because compared to them those men are clearly deluded??
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@Pleaselletmedrinkmysoda That dude isn't any kind of woman. Women (ALL of them) are born female, and that dude wasn't.
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@Maksie0 psych cases... That's why
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@Maksie0 Keep screeching... It's HILARIOUS, watching you grasping at straws. You're a dude, and your costume isn't fooling anyone
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Slightly? They're advocates
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@Maksie0 Funny thing, you've refuted nothing whatsoever. I recommend in the future, be relevant
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@markusbaker1161 I don't see it as being rational. i challenged what you assert are facts with questions about the conclusions of those who you're putting your faith in, and why you believe they're correct, and you had no response but disingenuous antagonism, deflection, and playing the part of a fool. I am still open to having an intellectually sound, adult conversation with anyone interested, but you seem to instead prefer juvenile sparring sessions free from integrity. That's your choice, but it isn't conducive to a productive dialogue-- so that's where we're at. I reject your cult narrative and ideology.
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@markusbaker1161 Don't care about your opinion about the conclusions that some bought and paid for hacks came up with. Yes, it is. You fail to persuade
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@markusbaker1161 You've made it abundantly clear you don't care about anything anyone is saying, unless it's confirmation bias. i challenged what you assert are facts with questions about the conclusions those who you've put your faith in and asked why you believe they're correct, and you had no response but disingenuous antagonism, deflection, and playing the part of a fool. I am still open to having an intellectually sound, adult conversation with anyone interested, but you seem to instead prefer juvenile sparring sessions free from integrity. That's your choice, but it isn't conducive to a productive dialogue-- so that's where we're at.
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@Maksie0 The logic it takes to say that someone who has a host of other behavioral/mental disorders (as nearly all dealing with transgenderism do) and is willing to mutilate themselves in irreversible fashion to achieve a status wherein they're still dozens of times more likely to commit sui**de ISN'T mental illness, is amazingly twisted. Insert any other condition and any other incessant desire to self-harm and there would be no dispute whatsoever.
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@markusbaker1161 One doesn't need to be a doctor to read the stats. Educate yourself
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, there are. A systematic review of social stress and mental health among transgender and gender non-conforming people in the United States. (The title of one of the studies you say don't exist) Summary: In general, depressive symptoms, sui**dality, interpersonal trauma exposure, substance use disorders, anxiety, and general distress have been consistently elevated among TGNC adults
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@markusbaker1161 Your logic and your conclusions, are fatally flawed.
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@markusbaker1161 You bought into the narrative, making it your logic-- or rather lack thereof. The fact is, people are male or female. Their personality traits and temperament don't change that, making trans the social construct.
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@markusbaker1161 I know. Your confusion is clear darling. That you don't understand that people are not a social construct-- proves you don't understand much of anything
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@Maksie0 Considering the self-deletion rate-- it doesn't appear to be a very effective treatment
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@markusbaker1161 Look into it, if you're interested.
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@markusbaker1161 Your interest doesn't seem to be enough to look it up for yourself. Don't be lazy
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@markusbaker1161 Then you have some proving to do 1st. You claim trans women are women. Prove it
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@markusbaker1161 That's wrong. The law defines a woman as an adult, human, female. Science, and medicine has established the differences in physical characteristics between the sexes (Male, and Female). Monkeys can tell the difference between males and females. What's your excuse for your confusion on the matter? The prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. Your juvenile comments and inability to process facts indicates you're kinda slow. The only ones fooled, are you trans clowns and those who go along with your LARPing and cosplay-- which are the vast vast minority.
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@markusbaker1161 Bro, even a monkey can tell the difference between males and females. The only one fooled is you and yours-- which are the vast vast minority. Get a clue
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@markusbaker1161 That they reproduce is sufficient proof that they not only know the difference, but that they also know why the differences matter. You're welcome
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@markusbaker1161 Yes it is. Your failure to acknowledge it, just shows that you're kinda slow. You come across as an anarchist.
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If the truth offends you, you have an intellectual deficit and emotional control problems
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@boobsmcgee5897 Being a woman is tied to being a female. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and addresses the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. You can pretend that a dump truck is a Ferrari if you want, but that just doesn't make it so
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@boobsmcgee5897 Evidence?
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Bathrooms are designed based on biology, not identity-- which is why typically men's rooms have urinals, no?. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@markusbaker1161 It was the focus of the OP, so I thought it appropriate to address it. Why not?
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@markusbaker1161 In my opinion, biology is the only relevant factor regarding restrooms distinctions. Criminals will be criminals, but making it easier for them to prey on their would be victims-- seems like a weak advocate argument
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@markusbaker1161 No, I am just considerate of the considerations of women
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, they can. I'm merely in solidarity with the women who don't want them in their private spaces. Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 That's not much of a refutation. I'm still correct... Like it or not
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@markusbaker1161 Coming from one who's arguing that men can become women; that opinion doesn't carry any significance. Carry on
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@markusbaker1161 According to a Swedish study, Long-term follow-up of transsexual persons undergoing sex reassignment surgery: cohort study in Sweden "Conclusions: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, sui***al behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."
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@fallengoat4896 If you need a study to help you figure out the differences between males and females, and to realize that the condition male/female is fixed and permanent-- You've got bigger problems to address
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@miraculousk7547 No, women aren't supporting them. That has nothing to do with misogyny
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@miraculousk7547 Funding? Fund it themselves, like men do. That's their problem. Why are men who forged their own leagues, supposed to figure out a way for women to do what they want?
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@jule3480 The entire trans ideology is pure incoherent madness.
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@markusbaker1161 Then we should abolish all affirmative action programs and laws based on race and gender?? :face-green-smiling::person-turqouise-waving::text-green-game-over:
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Because males and females already have their own leagues
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They're arguing fact vs fiction, and subjective feelings vs objective reality. The entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense.
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A woman is an adult, human, female. Womb not required
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You really don't discern a difference between teaching your own kids, vs pushing your ideology on other's kids? wow...
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@faisalkhan786fk It's TOTAL Intellectual bankruptcy. There are males and females, and there are minority segments of each which present with birth defects and various mental illnesses/psych disorders-- some with both. They aren't "trans" ANYTHING. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance and chemistry, as they are after.
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@faisalkhan786fk I really couldn't possibly care less about being accepted by morons
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Correct. There are lots of women with no integrity or courage whatsoever
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@briannachilders772 You obviously don't know what that word 'bigot' means either. There's no hate involved in recognizing that they are not that which they claim to be. It's just an observation. The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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Not even then
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How so?
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@Maksie0 Says the guy who believes and promotes the absurd, ridiculous notion that men can become women. gfy
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@Maksie0 Get real
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@Maksie0 All things considered, she really doesn't have to qualify it to people insisting on preferred pronoun usage of others.
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@markusbaker1161 No one asked you or maksie0... What are your credentials. You haven't established your own bona fides
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The get it wrong on gender. Then, they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate males and females.
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Regardless of the facts, an irrational thought process lacks the capacity to come to intelligent conclusions
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@mariec3733 No, I'm not. You're conflating personality with gender and gender roles
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@mariec3733 Gender-- there are 2 male and female. You got it totally wrong on gender. Gender refers to both the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Then, you conflate gender (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with personality traits and temperament. Then, you conflate science with science fiction and pseudo-science. Then, you conflate men and women, and males and females. Then, you conflate objective reality with subjective imagination. Your view is rejected by the majority of people. You better get used to it. Don't believe me-- ask Budweiser
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@jupiterfox7683 That sound is the sound of males and females everywhere rejecting your woke, activist, cult ideology, and terminology. You better get used to it
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Women are women and men are men-- regardless of how they self-identify, so using cis is redundant and none of anyone's concern but yours and the trans clowns you endorse. Cope harder
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Regarding people, they are male or female, respectively. That's it! Too many are incorrectly, and inappropriately discussing and confusing personality traits (which are not gender exclusive) and gender roles, which again-- are roles related to being male or female, respectively, with gender. Gender/Sex, there are 2 (Male and female). Personality traits and temperament-- there are a ton of variety. They're not synonymous. Learn the differences
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The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@frwful You seem triggered. Try decaf
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@frwful Short people aren't being recruited for the NBA en masse, for a reason. You've refuted nothing whatsoever. Any evidence for your claims about women not having equal access to ANYTHING?? 🦗🦗🦗
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@frwful Cope Harder! They're not restricted from daily life. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate.
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@frwful So that's a 'No'-- re: evidence to support your claims/assumptions? Got it! How did I know that? Amazing
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@frwful Why do you presume I wasn't talking about tea, or soft drinks? Think Deeper thoughts
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Crazy people often only hear the voices in their own heads.
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I'd call them dude, and let them know they aren't being very lady-like
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@nothanks1239 😏🥰😇 I believe in being nice, until it's time not to be nice too
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@kricachula7546 Being trans is a psych issue, while intersex is a biological issue-- being the relevant, not so subtle difference-- that tragically seems to elude so many, leading them to deception, falling for the intellectual diarrhea that is the incoherent trans activist, cult ideology.
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“The truth has no defense against a fool determined to believe a lie.”
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I seriously doubt it
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@Maksie0 Cult-like reactionary whinging
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@mariec3733 You're confusing and conflating personality traits and temperament with gender roles and gender
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@mariec3733 The rest of your schtick, where you pretend I said the opposite of what I said and base narratives and conclusions around that is asinine and foolishness. I never claimed sex is a construct. You are the one conflating biological sex with social constructs, when you incorrectly claim that trans women (men) are women. Altering one's appearance doesn't change one's sex, and neither does one's imagination that they're the opposite sex. Not sure how you got that twisted, but now you know
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@Maksie0 Looks like you're trying to convince yourself of that.
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@Maksie0 Charm school reject. You say sex and gender are separate; making the point that one's subjective gender identity doesn't alter their biology. Referring to him as she is grammatically incorrect and absent any basis in reality. You first
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@mariec3733 Not sure why you are insisting, that's my argument. That is incorrect. You're conflating biological sex w/ social constructs when YOU say women (Biological) are trans women (Men playing the part of a woman-- social construct)-- Not me.
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@mariec3733 There's only real women who don't require the redundant prefix, and gender pretenders-- who insist on using it. That's how
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@mariec3733 Take your own advice when you're insisting it's MA'AM and you're replied to with, "whatever, sir", or "Get real dude". Sir and dude are addressing biology too
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And sports teams, scholarships, locker rooms, changing rooms, showers, and prisons too?
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@db6881 Are you funding it with your own funds, or do you plan to have those in state institutions known as asylums? The world doesn't owe them anything, and the vast majority reject that trans-activist ideological, cult narrative, so-- to pretend it does, is pure nonsense. Don't believe men, verify with Budweiser, Target, Disney and Mulvaney It's not for society to adapt for them. It's for them to find a way to integrate into society, which has already been long established. They're not the center of the universe. They're a tiny fraction of a minority.
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The Vast majority of parents reject the trans-activist ideology. There's nothing appropriate about having adult burlesque entertainment for children.
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That dude knows a lot of stuff, that just isn't so
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@hcos8139 It's not acceptable anywhere.
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Yup... Woe, to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology as in their near dystopian futures, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will calim to be women-- and they don't even see it coming. Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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The trans movement is unhinged from reality. What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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They're catering to their intended audience, aimed at those who can be influenced by the Jedi mind trick.
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@petemiller2920 Even after transition, they have a self-termination rate nearly 10x' higher than the average-- It appears even after transition, they're still not happy. Most have several other emotional factors in play
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@markusbaker1161 According to a Swedish study, Long-term follow-up of transsexual persons undergoing sex reassignment surgery: cohort study in Sweden "Conclusions: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, sui***al behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."
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@markusbaker1161 What's preventing you from researching your interest and providing the answers to your own question?
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@markusbaker1161 Transgender youth more than 3 times as likely to attempt sui***e; Just a quick cursory search I found this for you. A new study by the CDC shows distressing numbers for transgender students."Trans students also showed significantly higher usage percentages of cocaine, heroin, ecstasy, inhalants and prescription opioids. Alcohol and marijuana use were also higher, though not as markedly. Some of the most distressing numbers for the study came in relation to sui***e. The study showed that 34.6 percent of trans students had attempted sui***e, almost 30 percentage points higher than cis males and 25 percent higher than cis females."
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@markusbaker1161 How are they outdated, if you can't find anything more current, which refute them? That seems to make them current. What am I missing there?
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@markusbaker1161 Because the medical professionals who did the studies are validating my point, that the numbers are much higher than they are with no trans issues-- and they also point to a host of other factors associated with those who do suffer with it. Your attempt to deny or invalidate the info isn't being presented w/ any citations of any data, to indicate otherwise. Burden of proof-- remember
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@markusbaker1161 There are none so blind, as those who would not see. You want to normalize and affirm those people, that they're fine... and you don't see the massive hole in the logic of that?
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@markusbaker1161 Of that, I have No doubt. Really?? Research the following: Urethral complications after gender reassignment surgery: a systematic review 32 studies were examined for a total of 3463 patients screened. Thirty-two studies met our inclusion criteria and were evaluated, and references were manually reviewed in order to include additional relevant studies in this review. Female-to-male (FtM) surgery and male-to-female (MtF) surgery was discussed in 23 and 10 studies, respectively. One study discussed both. Varying patterns of complications were observed in FtM and MtF surgeries, with increased complications in the former because of the larger size of the neourethra. Meatal stenosis is a particular concern in MtF surgery, with complication rates ranging from 4 to 40%, and usually require meatotomy for repair. Stricture and fistulization are frequently reported complications following FtM surgery. In studies reporting on fistulae involving the urethra, 19–54% of fistulae resolved spontaneously without further surgical intervention. High rates of complications are reported in the current literature, which should be understood by patients and practitioners alike. Shared decision making with patients regarding incidence and management of urethral complications including stricture disease and fistulae, particularly after FtM surgery, is critical for setting expectations and managing postoperative outcomes.
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@markusbaker1161 International Journal of Impotence Research is the source.
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@markusbaker1161 Cows aren't dragons... So what? You look like you're trying to be provocative and antagonistic, to satisfy an anti-social, attention-seeking disorder. They're men is a dress-- Not women. It's just as simple as that. Their claimed identities of being women, don't make them women. Those who identify as transgender are still men in cosplay, they're not any kind of woman. Your suggestion otherwise doesn't invalidate reality. They're still men, and suggesting otherwise totally absurd. They are not women, and shouldn't be infiltrating women's spaces like restrooms, sports teams, locker rooms or in prisons, because they're Men
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@markusbaker1161 You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and have not justified allowing men to infiltrate women's private places, because of their subjective identity claims. Why do you hate and disrespect women so much? Abandonment issues?
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@markusbaker1161 My observations regarding your comments are that you have not illustrated any respect for women and their private spaces by advocating in favor of men being allowed to infiltrate their spaces. Why, according to you-- should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim that they're women.
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Then they should pee in the men's room
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@Maksie0 If your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must participate in your cosplay and deny reality-- then that identity isn't valid. Pretty simple
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He is! He's merely a caricature of what he wishes he was-- and will never be
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@safbae You're inappropriately confusing and conflating personality with gender
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@catorimazique8659 They aren't trans anything. They're LARPing
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@catorimazique8659 What? Your comment isn't much of a refutation. I clearly posted my thoughts on the matter
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Ethertask Sebastian Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then their identity is not valid.
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@edvt2316 I know. That's what I wrote. They will never be women
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Babylon rising
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@Cle-o Cis is a term used in chemistry having nothing to do with gender whatsoever. Get a clue
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@Cle-o It's a term used, so that men can pretend that there's another kind of woman, other than those born female-- despite the fact that there isn't. Also, the cis- prefix means "on this side". Todd Helmenstine In geometrical isomer nomenclature, the prefix cis- and trans- are used to identify which side of the double bond the similar atoms are found. The cis- prefix is from the Latin meaning "on this side". In this case, the chlorine atoms are on the same side of the carbon-carbon double bond.
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Summary: They're not Trans ANYTHING. They're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after-- which means they're still men
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@yepitsjilly The ideological narratives are incoherent madness. A he cannot become a she in reality
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@mariec3733 It didn't seem to help you. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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Expecting rationality from delusional people isn't logical
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The vast majority reject the trans-activist ideological narrative, as the incoherent madness of those who are lost.
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"It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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@markusbaker1161 My friend-- You come across like a Middle Eastern Car Salesman w/ the ethics of a Call Scammer
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@markusbaker1161 How are they-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? And I asked, Why should those men who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria be granted access to women's private spaces? You got nuthin Blossom
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@ariana9941 All women are born female, all men are born male and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference or a costume. The level of anxiety they have about the reality of their biology, changes nothing whatsoever
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They're merely caricatures of what they wish they were
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You hear that??? It's the sound of men and women EVERYWHERE rejecting this incoherent ideology for the bull 💩that it is. Don't believe me? Ask Budweiser
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@Maksie0 Don't misgender him. In order to be correctly referred to as 'she', one would need to be communicating about a female-- and he is a male not a female. That sound you're hearing, is that of people everywhere rejecting your woke garbage.
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@ald6228 Sorry, if your identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality, and participate in your cosplay and LARPing to affirm your delusional sense of self-- your identity is invalid
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@ald6228 Those men aren't justified at all, in being granted access to women's spaces
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@ald6228 You're wrong, those men are not women
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Don't confuse respect, with courtesy or politeness, or compassion or anything else. Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is respectable.
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Utopia is not for this place called reality, where people are flawed
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I condemn the ethics of those who promote affirmation therapy, as the results are horrendous, evidenced by the stats showing the rate of self-termination even after surgeries
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@markusbaker1161 It's my opinion that they're horrendous. If you think the results are fine. Okay... Based on what?
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@mariec3733 Do you see above? It's my opinion that they're horrendous results from affirmation-based treatment protocols. If you think the results are fine. Okay... Based on what? Compared to what?
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@mariec3733 Why do you? The treatment you advocate doesn't stop them, according to the stats. They're the one's who choose that path in extremely high percentages, not me.
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@mariec3733 Intellectually bankrupt, and morally stunted is no way for you to go through life. I feel sorry for you
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@mariec3733 The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any virtue in any of your interactions. I pity you
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No it does not. Trillions in debt, w/ spending deficits
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@Maksie0 Look here troll, Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Gender and Personality-- learn the difference. The answer to your original question is that there's only one kind of woman, and they are all born females, so... using the cis prefix is totally redundant and unnecessary. Your entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. You completely get it wrong on gender. Then you conflate gender and personality. Then, you conflate gender and gender roles. Then, you conflate what women are with men. smh There are males and females. That's it! Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct. She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals specifically humans. Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1. Your body and brain develop & grow together -> You simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2. Hating a part of you body so much, that you cut it off, is a mental illness. I told you that you better get used to people rejecting your woke ideology.
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@briannachilders772 Nope, not even close. Some dude chopping off body parts doesn't become a woman
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@Maksie0 Women who are trans, according to your own ideology-- are trans men, so you're wrong. Congrats... Now you know and you know why
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No, I doubt it. When it comes to people and their priorities, their kids-- out rank whatever concerns for or priorities you think they ought to have re: the concerns of difficulty trans people may face
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@Maksie0 What's it to you? How many do you have, troll???
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@Maksie0 Your opinion is irrelevant. Cope Harder
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They insist that gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology. If that were the case, so is trans-gender. The 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female and those men aren't it. That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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*He
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@WONS-SEPTUM It's a term used in chemistry, and has nothing whatsoever to do with gender. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the use of cis entirely useless and irrelevant, genius
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You and MANY others are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) with 'Gender'. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect, Psych Disorder... That's it!
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*He
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@ebrw8016 Still, he's a he.
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@darksideoftheroom3291 * He ;) There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female.
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@Maksie0 Your problem is that the world exists in objective reality, and the trans imagination just doesn't override the vast majority of people's capacity for discernment.
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@Maksie0 Why do you think there Is another kind of woman, other than those born female?
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@Maksie0 What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, costumes, or preferences. That you/they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's your/their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you/they wished they were.
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Watch the 'our' part. In, 'Their' society-- it's not even an endangered species, it's already extinct
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@charcoalgea2863 Guinea pigs can tell the difference between males and females. What's your excuse? Was it having half your brain removed in the transition surgery?
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@markusbaker1161 They reproduce. You're welcome
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@markusbaker1161 There is not any case of a trans woman being pregnant EVER. There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women, illustrating that your narrative is a totally bogus faith-based belief with zero evidence to support your claim that trans women are women. Checkmate / You lost
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@miraislam5976 Intersex individuals are often infertile, and only ever present with genitalia found in the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species, and NONE with both being fully functional-- usually with one presenting as dominant. Not another gender. A physical disorder, not a psych issue
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@NoLefTurnUnStoned. Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1.) Your body and brain develop & grow together -> You simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2.) Hating a part of you body so much, that you cut it off, is a mental illness.
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@amyslahetka7873 Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh
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Gaslight harder.
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@briannachilders772 Not even close. You still seem to be inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament as though they're synonymous with gender, and they aren't
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@markusbaker1161 prove you're not a m0r0n
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@markusbaker1161 Your inability to decipher the differences between men and women, or to distinguish that a trans woman is still a male-- regardless of you changing what you call them indicate your shoe size dwarfs your IQ
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@markusbaker1161 I don't know what "individual transfer" rights are. I recognize them, but as men who've chosen to make themselves a caricature of the women they wish they could be. I didn't make them do that. You appear triggered, that I'm not fooled by their disguises, and that I recognize that they're still men, but with a quirky fashion sense, some of whom who've had plastic surgery-- and that regardless of you calling them trans-women, I recognize that they're still men. Like I said, the 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female-- and those men aren't that. Hope that clarifies it for you
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Yup... Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. All they're doing is altering their appearance and body chemistry. They're not 'Trans' ANYTHING whatsoever. Their the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after.
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🐎 💩
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There's already enough idiocy in the world. The upside is they won't be reproducing much
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@markusbaker1161 Illustrating the difference between possibility and probability, though it's still a 50/50 shot that they'll not off themselves-- so I lean toward the not probable. No doubt that you don't care
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@mariec3733 You are confused
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@Maksie0 You're going to stop trolling? Say it isn't so
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@mariec3733 I reject the entire narrative you're peddling
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@mariec3733 You're rambling nonsense again
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@mariec3733 I reject your words and narrative, and assertions about what I've written.
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@mariec3733 Your attempt to paint a false narrative about what I wrote is patently absurd, as my statements are still actually viewable. I don't take you seriously, and reject your cult narrative entirely. Men cannot become women, and vice versa. It's really simple. Gender-- There are 2 (male and female). The social aspects of gender being male and female-- are gender roles, which you're conflating with gender, personality traits and temperament.
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They're self-entitled narcissists who fail to grasp the fact that the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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They need to also understand that even if it did, they're still the same sex as they were when they were born. That state is permanent
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@markusbaker1161 The construct you're referring to, doesn't change reality
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@markusbaker1161 Nope. Still male or female-- same as they ever were. I'm not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that I can promote make believe, or cater to feelings. NO! Just... No They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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@markusbaker1161 Still male or female, regardless of you calling them by another name
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@markusbaker1161 The subject has always been about males and females. Your failure to comprehend or acknowledge that changes nothing. Gender roles are what you're talking about, and they're well-established. Gender pretenders are still merely male or female, respectively
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@markusbaker1161 There's one prerequisite to being a woman and womanhood, and that's being female-- and the subject illustrates that trans-women are Not that. Cry about it and stomp your feet if you must. It changes nothing
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@markusbaker1161 HAHAHAHAH :face-blue-smiling::face-turquoise-covering-eyes:🤣And you believe that nonsense?
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@markusbaker1161 It was rhetorical. I couldn't care less what you believe
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@markusbaker1161 Is that what you believe?
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@markusbaker1161 I don't. I'm not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that I can promote make believe, or cater to feelings by pretending I don't recognize that they aren't that which they present themselves as. They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not trying to convince you of anything. It isn't the rest of society that's needing to be accommodated or to give any consideration to you about your preferred pronouns, or subjective ideas which are based in fantasy vs reality-- where your claims are rejected because they're objectively false.
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@markusbaker1161 :face-turquoise-drinking-coffee::face-turquoise-covering-eyes::face-blue-smiling::face-green-smiling::text-green-game-over:🤡
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@markusbaker1161 Blossom, is that you again?
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@markusbaker1161 Looks more like I'm living rent free-- in Your head, stalker
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@markusbaker1161 You just can't seem to stop yourself from trying to get more attention from me. Looks like you have an impulse control problem
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@jayla808 There's no debate about XX and XY chromosomes existing and what they do, and there aren't any studies anywhere proving that trans--women aren't biological males. So YOU prove they have any business being in women's private spaces. Justify it.
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I won't... Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@mariec3733 Those condemning affirmation therapy as a means of treatment, who don't reside in your activist snow globe of a world, citing the horrible percentage of self deletion despite their treatments. Those medical experts
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Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. They're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after. They aren't trans anything
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And Vice versa
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Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then your identity is not valid.
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@ItsSchwifty Not a fan of progressivism nor socialism. The smallest minority, is after all-- the individual
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@Maksie0 No-- You are the ignorant one
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Don't conflate temperament and personality traits w/ gender. They're not synonymous.
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@LunnaJannah Cope and seethe harder... There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females. Now you know
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In a special ward, in their asylum
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@brianwebberable Oh relax... The comment is clearly intended as mockery.
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@brianwebberable You look triggered. I just laugh at your confused, indoctrination. You look and sound ridiculous. There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are, so Cope Harder
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It doesn't alleviate the exponentially higher rates of self-deletes, which begs questioning the efficacy of affirmation-based treatment protocols
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@dariusmcfarter6105 Bottom line, trans women are men with issues pretending that they're women without issues. They're-- Men Be careful not to conflate some lame survey's as science. There's a Swedish study and there are US studies. Just gotta weed through the activist swill
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That's the understatement of the decade. That dude is emotionally, spiritually, and intellectually unhinged
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@markusbaker1161 There is only one kind of woman, and as it turns out the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. It's not a costume men can put on and take off, and it's not a personality quirk that you continue to conflate with gender
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@Ey3_s0cEt.4.20. Not how that works. If it was, there would be no need to "transition". Stoopid isn't the new smart. Up your game
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@Ey3_s0cEt.4.20. That sound is the sound of men and women rejecting your woke trans activist ideology and terminology. Don't believe me? Budweiser called and said to tell you that you're full of 💩
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@urmomspussyhair :face-blue-smiling: Nope... Never will be
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@amani7753 Then, stay TF out of women's private spaces. Your imagination doesn't make you a woman
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Dude is a dude, is a dude... They aren't 'trans' anything whatsoever. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@ericawalton1236 That didn't answer my question
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They confuse and conflate gender/sex with gender roles and personality traits and temperament, as though they're all synonymous-- leading them to all sorts of intellectually unsound conclusions, because they're Not
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Why, according to you-- should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim that they're women.
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@markusbaker1161 Anyone with an answer will do.
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@markusbaker1161 That's for me, not you-- to decide. It is after all, my question. MY standing answer is, it is in no way reasonable, rational, nor justifiable-- and no one has provided any reasoning behind the notion of granting men access to women's spaces, because of 'Feelings' or some such nonsense.
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@markusbaker1161 You're not even from my country, but don't you worry about me and where I live or how I vote to effect changes in laws. You do you
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@markusbaker1161 Magic
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@markusbaker1161 I never brought up religious beliefs. It was you spelling color colour that was the indicator to me
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@markusbaker1161 In the USA we don't spell color, colour. Looks like a YOU problem, regarding all religions worldwide from here
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@markusbaker1161 I know. The question you asked was how do I know you're not from my country, and the spelling you used was the indicator that you're not from the USA. I wasn't challenging the meaning. Try reading slower next time to avoid looking ridiculous-- Again
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Yet, their self-delete rates are WAY WAY higher than the general population.
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@rowan6021 Use yours... You just said they now feel safer to come out, to justify the higher self delete rates? Looking back in history, you don't see the huge number of self-deletes that you do now-- So... you seem to have a problem with critical thinking and analysis.
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Men can't be ANY kind of woman, weak or strong
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@Morocco_illuminati Sad truth is there aren't enough asylums to provide a safe environment for their therapeutic learning to commence.
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@Morocco_illuminati The wheat and the tares, the seed of the serpent vs the seed of the woman, those who's names were not found written in the Book of Life vs those who's names are blotted out of the Book of Life. I get it
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@Morocco_illuminati Talk to your bible study leader for clarification.This isn't the place
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@markusbaker1161 I have some very cool trans friends. They agree with me. Of course, they still like girls and do it to get girls, as hilarious as that is in itself-- your commentary never touched on anything relevant, so believe what you will. Turning off notifications for this video, so you'll have to find someone else to play with
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E X A C T L Y Correct
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@mr.mclibtard5015 No doubt these bozos would suggest affirmation protocols would be appropriate as a treatment for that too
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@mr.mclibtard5015 They inappropriately conflate gender and sex. Then they inappropriately conflate gender and gender roles. Then they inappropriately conflate personality traits and temperament with gender. Ya, it's absurd. They fail to realize that if their identity relies upon the participation of others denying objective reality-- that those identities are invalid.
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@GratsielaLily He's not any kind of woman. To be a woman, one must 1st be born female, and that dude wasn't
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The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. They're merely caricatures of what they 'WISH' they were and can never be One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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And it's clearly blurry
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@anniebananie416 I absolutely agree. Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men-- who will say they're women... And they don't even see it coming. I don't get it I mean, Gender and sex aren't disconnected. Gender is NOT a social construct. Gender roles are the social constructs and they're well-established, which is why the counter-culture trans-narrative is itself the real construct and they seem unable to process that distinction. Their inability to process the truth of it, doesn't invalidate the truth. I'm not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that I can promote make believe, or cater to feelings. NO! Just... No They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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@markusbaker1161 Why do you presume I'm angry? I'm just observant of the fact that they are not that which they claim to be, or as they present themselves.
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@markusbaker1161 Perhaps it's just an honest mistake, on your part.
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@markusbaker1161 Well, then it is a dishonest mistake. Either way, not angry. Just observant and unrefuted
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That dude is unhinged from reality
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It won't matter... They're still men, and their subjective identity doesn't change that
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Recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim, merely makes one observant. The subjective self-identities of the whacko's of the world, creates no obligation for anyone to deny objective reality, in favor of their delusional self-perceptions, and when they continue to refer to women as cis, after being made aware that it offends them-- they have no room to insist on respect in return
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@Itslanee How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@mariec3733 Using pronouns correctly isn't derogatory either, so relax
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, pub med. It is a worthy research topic. Let me know what you find out. I can't be expected to do all your research for you. Either way, there are your doctors agreeing with my assertion that the treatment isn't effective enough to avoid such tragic results
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@markusbaker1161 The fact that you're unaware of the stats or articles about something doesn't make it non-existent. I'm not arguing that they shouldn't be allowed because of predatory behavior. I'm opposed because men already have their own spaces, as do women-- and I support women continuing to have their own spaces. Why don't you??
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@markusbaker1161 Oh well, it's not my job to cure your ignorance. You look like you have a problem with women having their own private spaces, free from men, trans or otherwise
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@markusbaker1161 Trans women are men, who've merely altered their appearance. If you have any evidence to the contrary-- post it, or quit whining
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@markusbaker1161 Changing what you call something, doesn't change the thing into something else. Only the name changes. Take your time to process reality
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@markusbaker1161 It doesn't matter. Your acceptance and understanding aren't required
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@markusbaker1161 On that note,just know that in the future, when you insist on your preferred pronouns-- Expect the, "I don't care, nothing you say matters" response will be delivered with a smile and a dismissal. Kick Rocks
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@jasminegates-cr5hg I think it'd be a better spot for the preferred trans restrooms
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So? Still men, presenting as the stereotypical, sexist caricatures of that which they are not, and can never be-- ie. Women
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Because NO ONE would watch
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@Maksie0 I don't watch the Special Olympics either
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One wouldn't use pronouns when talking directly to anyone. You use them when talking about someone to others. It's ludicrous
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@eyesonly1638 These people are nuts
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@graceful1537 Because, there is only one kind of woman and you're ALL born female, making the 'cis' prefix entirely irrelevant and useless
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@gudemeneely Nonetheless, they're not the sex with which they portray or identify
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"It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".--T. Sowell
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That dude is koo koo for cocoa puffs
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:face-green-smiling: Hilarious! That dude's shoe size dwarfs his IQ
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@samir.pradhan 'They' are a group of men, pretending they're not
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That dude's shoe size dwarfs his IQ. 85 seems way too high
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@Maksie0 That doesn't prove anything she said was incorrect
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The truth has no defense against a fool determined to believe a lie.
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:face-blue-smiling:🤣
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@markusbaker1161 Go read the studies, I provided you already, and see the light
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@markusbaker1161 Sucks to be you then. I told you the name of the study and the location. Maybe your mom can help you
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@markusbaker1161 I told you to search for su***dality among transgender youth. Quit capping
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@markusbaker1161 You're the one interested... Do some research. Do you rely on your mom to cut your food too? What does the abstract of that study tell you?
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@markusbaker1161 What does it say about the rates? What do you think about those rates-- in terms of how they reflect upon the effectiveness of the affirmative treatment results? It doesn't require a degree, just some common sense, reasoning, and the capacity to apply intelligent analysis.
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@markusbaker1161 Did you read it?
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@markusbaker1161 Any of them? Which ones?
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@markusbaker1161 Go read this one: Trends in sui**de de*th risk in transgender people: results from the Amsterdam Cohort of Gender Dysphoria study (1972-2017)
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@Maksie0 Yup
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That dude's shoe size dwarfs his IQ
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@nonstickbrute7941 There's a clear difference between males and females. If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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@markusbaker1161 That's exactly my response-- when watching some unhinged dude in a dress, w/ makeup and a 5 o'clock shadow, exhibiting ZERO impulse control, screaming, "It's MA'AM".
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@Maksie0 No, not even close. Women who are trans-- are trans men.
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@charcoalgea2863 Nope... Never will be. They're men presenting as women-- still men
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@charcoalgea2863 Monkeys have no problem deciphering the differences between males and females. What's your excuse??
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@wisefries4205 Don't conflate gender (There are 2 male/female... That's it) with personality and temperament (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) as though they're synonymous. They're not Gender roles vary from country to country, society to society and culture to culture-- BUT, they all refer to the social aspects of being male or female, respectively... FULL Stop... within those countries, societies and cultures, which have long-established their societal 'norms', steeped in history and tradition.
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Parents need to educate their children that people with mental disorders such as these, aren't who you should be taking life advice from. The incoherent ideology is inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament-- none of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys, w/ gender
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@Maksie0 No dear... There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females-- making the cis distinction entirely useless, redundant and irrelevant. Update your understanding
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@Maksie0 Nope-- women who are trans are trans men according to THEM. Get it straight junior
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They're men. There appears to be a prerequisite to being considered a trans-woman, and that's being male. There is no science which shows that trans-women aren't males. The fact that people want to pretend otherwise doesn't change objective reality
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@markusbaker1161 The psych issues those men are dealing with, doesn't justify them infringing on women's rights to privacy. They're still men
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@markusbaker1161 Think deeper thoughts. A diagnosis for gender dysphoria is included in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), a manual published by the American Psychiatric Association. They are still males, regardless of their 'Feelings'
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@markusbaker1161 No it doesn't. A woman is an adult, human, female and some guy identifying as something else-- doesn't make him that
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@markusbaker1161 Ya, because they're not women and they don't want to be referred to as men. Facts however, are stubborn things, and your use of another name for men doesn't change the men being discussed-- it only changes the word you're using
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@markusbaker1161 I don't care that they don't identify with their biology. They're still men
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@markusbaker1161 Ya, they're recognized as males by science. Cite the source of the "science" you're referring to that proves otherwise
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@markusbaker1161 You got nuthin... :text-green-game-over::person-turqouise-waving:
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@markusbaker1161 No need. The biology is already established, validating my statements. The psych science validates my statements as well. Dissociative disorders are clearly defined as involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self.
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Of course you are, dear. That's the sound of men and women everywhere rejecting this woke madness. If you need confirmation, ask Budweiser, Target, and Disney
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@PrincessKLS How many kids have you raised, who've become well-adjusted, happy, productive members of society???
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@Maksie0 Poor baby, can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy. Your arguments and ideological narratives are incoherent nonsense. You've been thoroughly discredited to my satisfaction, and you've done nothing but make a spectacle of yourself by making demonstrably false statements. It's rather p@thetic on your part. There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are You Fail to persuade It is the trans-activists like you, who's insistence that others-- who are already minding their own business, participate in your LARP and cosplay, by insisting on the grammatically incorrect use of pronouns, and with no regard for the displacement of women's privacy, which is at the root of how you brought your business to everyone in public, making it their business. Irony or idiocy? Quit your whining. You look and sound ridiculous
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@markusbaker1161 Chill-- Blossom
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@markusbaker1161 My bad-- I didn't realize Karen was your real name. Chill-- Karen
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@markusbaker1161 You seem to be the one up in arms over the fact that people recognize those men for what they are-- men, and insisting on using a different name like trans women-- as if it signifies something relevant, changes nothing whatsoever. They're still men
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@markusbaker1161 The circus community is valid too. Still freaks
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@markusbaker1161 You have established that you have comprehension challenges when it comes to definitions. ex. The definition of gender: Gender refers to the sex assigned/observed at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. The social aspects of being male or female are socially constructed, and they're well-established since the dawn of time. That you wish to close your eyes to the facts, or protest about trans women being recognized as being the men they are in reality-- changes nothing.
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@markusbaker1161 The fantasy writers like you, are those who pretend that trans women aka men, are women-- because you hate women
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@Maksie0 Troll... You know very well that Women are adult, human, females and that condition is fixed and permanent. You were already told by another, "They can choose to buy into the arbitrary, sexist expectations imposed onto their sex, or do the progressive thing and reject them, like women, gays and lesbians have been doing for centuries now. That should be their light-bulb moment - " Inappropriately conflating the variability or personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) with 'gender' is the entire problem.
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@SydtheSquid112 That's a psych issue, and in reality there is only one kind of woman, and they're ALL born female.
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@Maksie0 Nope-- there is only 1 kind of woman and she's born female. Get help
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No
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You fail to recognize that both things can be true
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@markusbaker1161 I don't have to prove that they're out there doing that. The DOJ, and the news media have already done that. You being unaware changes nothing. No hate involved in being observant. That's not much of a refutation. Perhaps if they start their own sports leagues-- you can go out for the cheer leading squad of your favorite team
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@markusbaker1161 No need to re-prove that which the DOJ and the media have reported on. You being unaware is a YOU problem.Not my job to solve your dilemmas for you. Grow up
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@markusbaker1161 Yawn-- Again, looks like a YOU problem. I'm not buying your narrative. You Fail to persuade
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@markusbaker1161 You've yet to prove yourself relevant. Still XY, not trans ANYTHING. They're nothing more than a caricature of what they wish they were and can never be-- a woman. A face lift, genital mutilation, and a wardrobe change-- and none of that turns a male into a female, no matter how much you wish it to be true, it is not. They're engaging in gender appropriation in the form of a caricature. They're the same as they ever were-- dudes w/ psych issues and physical mutilation to prove it Change my mind... Ready, Set, Go.....
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@markusbaker1161 Trans women are Men w/ a trendy label. 🙃
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And Prisons, Dressing rooms, Sports, Sports teams... No-- That doesn't work either. Restrooms, as well as the things I mentioned are designed and implemented based on biology not subjective identity
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@Maksie0 That is what they say about you, among other things which are less flaterring
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@markusbaker1161 all 3 of you?
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@markusbaker1161 Cry a river. The VAST majority of comments here and people everywhere are mocking you and your endorsed, pushed ideological narrative, several of whom are citing observations I've made previously. :text-green-game-over:
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@markusbaker1161 Your narrative is rejected as madness
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@markusbaker1161 You can feel free to pretend that those men are women-- but they are not.
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@markusbaker1161 Nice try. You're the one pretending that men can be women and vice versa. They can't. If you're convinced I'm wrong-- Fine.
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@mariec3733 Then, stay tf out of women's private spaces, since those private spaces are designed and implemented based on biology
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The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@Maksie0 You seem triggered. Is it because you hate women and she's an actual woman?
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Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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Cis is entirely irrelevant. There are males and females... That's it. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman and that is being born female. Those dudes weren't, and they'll never be women
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@Maksie0 You sound sad and lonely
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@mariec3733 Recognizing that they are not that which they present themselves, just makes me observant.
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@Maksie0 No, that neither you nor your incoherent, woket@rd, cult narrative has merit
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@Maksie0 What is a woman?
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@markusbaker1161 a social construct
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@markusbaker1161 Women aren't a social construct. Your turn, what is a woman?
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@markusbaker1161 No they aren't. That's absurd
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@markusbaker1161 No it isn't. A human isn't a social construct. Women are adult, human females. Trans is a social construct-- and it doesn't invalidate biology.
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@markusbaker1161 I know trans is a social construct that doesn't invalidate biology at all
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@markusbaker1161 You said trans women are women. You're confused and wrong about that. They're men.
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@markusbaker1161 Women are not a social construct, dear. A woman is an adult human female. That's a biological category that feelings won't change. Try processing slower to overcome your intellectual barriers.
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@markusbaker1161 You said trans women are women. Looks like you're saying women are a social construct, and I wouldn't put it past you dear-- you haven't made any coherent case yet-- to support that statement or to explain the logic behind it.
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@jessicapoe6224 No, a woman is an adult, human, female-- and men cannot be THAT
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@jessicapoe6224 Your belief doesn't change reality. A woman is an adult, human, female and that state is fixed and permanent.
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@jessicapoe6224 Correct, and all adult women are females
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What's the rational for that hypothesis? Middle ground, to what end? Is there a middle ground between objective reality and the potential number of infinite, subjective individual claims of 'identity'-- which happen to to be objectively false? The inappropriate conflation of personality traits and temperament, neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys-- with gender, is causing a lot of confusion. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively, and male and female are in fact biological categories which are fixed and permanent. I posit that there isn't trans anything. You're still the same sex/gender prior to altering your appearance, as you are after, and if gender is fluid-- why the need to change?? It's like extreme LARPing/cosplay to people who recognize that you are not that which you claim to identify as and/or present yourself as.
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@catboyash No, they're are not. They are men. If they were women, the use of 'trans' would be entirely redundant and unnecessary.
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@markusbaker1161 The biological science is already established, validating my statements. The psych science validates my statements as well. Dissociative disorders are clearly defined as those involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self. 😏😮🧐
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@markusbaker1161 Societies have long-established gender roles, which you conflate with gender-- as though they're synonymous. That's an error on your part. They are not synonymous Nothing you've presented has invalidated anything I've written.
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@markusbaker1161 No, the gender roles like 'trans-women'-- are the real social constructs. Gender refers to the sex assigned/observed at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Again, you're conflating gender with gender roles and have presented nothing whatsoever which has invalidated anything I've written.
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@markusbaker1161 You've invalidated nothing whatsoever. You're free to continue to incorrectly conflate gender and gender roles if you wish
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@markusbaker1161 The definitions I provided weren't my own. They were crafted by doctors in the medical community. That you have difficulty comprehending them isn't a problem for me. That's on you. Best of luck with that
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@markusbaker1161 Your response doesn't prove anything I've written is incorrect or invalid in any way.
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@markusbaker1161 You haven't made the case for why someone who's XY should be considered XX (As would necessarily be the case, to substantiate the statement that trans women are women) or trans XX-- and neither has anyone else. Why not try being relevant for a change?
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@Maksie0 No, they want to be called trans women is so they can pretend they're not men.
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@Maksie0 GFY... Ask Target
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that the world accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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Narcissists... They already have the same rights as everyone else. Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@LanaW123 There's no such thing as trans. There are males and females... That's it. A woman isn't a costume that men can simply put on. Women aren't a social construct. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those men weren't. Now you know
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Their mental disorders, sense of entitlement and narcissism
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Intellectual bankruptcy
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@Maksie0 Your ideology and narratives-- are rejected by the majority of people. The only one's fooled by your disguises are you
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@conor.3875 That's why those men don't belong in women's private spaces
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@conor.3875 It's precisely the focus. Men can't become women. Learn to decipher the difference between personality and gender
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@conor.3875 People who struggle with their identity, wishing they were the opposite gender, and presenting as the opposite gender-- are not, they're still the same sex/gender they were born as. Entertaining them as though they are, isn't worth discussing
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@conor.3875 No, gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and is relative to being male or female, respectively. I lose nothing One's personality and temperament, which is what you're describing, not gender-- doesn't alter the fact that they're male or female respectively. Acting like an effeminate male doesn't make one a woman. A woman isn't a social construct, being trans is. You're wrong
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@conor.3875 They, from what I understand-- have a predominate gender/s3x and many/most are infertile. NONE have presented with anything other than male or female organs, and None with both being functional-- so, they're not another gender invalidating the binary dichotomy of all mammals. A genetic anomaly doesn't invalidate the binary. The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule-- they prove the rule by being the exceptions
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@conor.3875 Nope... Not all females are women. A woman is an adult, human, female. Intersex people do not ever present with genitalia from anything other than the binary dichotomy of all mammals. There's is a physical disorder, not a psych disconnect
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@Maksie0 That those men aren't women. duh
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@markusbaker1161 I have zero fear of transformers. I pity them
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@markusbaker1161 The objective reality is, those who you refer to as trans women are men and will always remain men regardless of the mutilation they choose to go through, or how quirky their wardrobe choices are-- they're still men.
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@markusbaker1161 I never said you didn't express yourselves as you want. I said your expression doesn't alter reality, and turn men into women. Dunning-Krueger effect seems to be affecting you in a negative way.
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@markusbaker1161 I dismissed you long ago, because you seem to know a lot about things that just aren't so. Your cult narrative and terminology is rejected. Gender-- there are 2, and they are fixed and permanent. No one in history has transitioned from male to female. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 You can't handle being dismissed because your narratives and nonsense don't stand up to scrutiny. That's okay... Your acceptance isn't required, and neither is your acknowledgement. The world doesn't owe you anything. buh bye
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, I have dismissed you, your opinions, narratives and idi0cy. Your refusal to accept that changes nothing.
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@markusbaker1161 Your continued comments, seeking my attention shows that you're motivated by my comments to continue to play the fool. Your failure to recognize that the comments in the comment section here show your talking points to be that of a vast minority-- that is rejected by most.
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@markusbaker1161 Fact: Men cannot become women. Learn it. Know it
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@markusbaker1161 That's not fact. That's fiction. No they don't. All that does is alter their appearance. It doesn't transform them or 'transition' them into the opposite sex.
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@markusbaker1161 That is wrong.
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@markusbaker1161 No, it is not. Do you agree with the curly haired woman that said a trans person is someone who believes they are the other sex? Because otherwise what are you transitioning?
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@markusbaker1161 You believe that they believe they're social constructs? Weird that you say trans women are women. You believe women are social constructs??
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@Maksie0 No, they aren't. Women who are trans are trans men according to your own narrative. You just can't seem to keep it straight. LOL There are no trans humans. There are only males and females. In order to be a woman, the prerequisite is being born female. Now you know
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Scrotey McBoogerballs I don't do it for them. I do it so that others reading might gain some clarity on the issue for themselves, to use when appropriate while discussing this topic.
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@Maksie0 Not much of a rebuttal. Men cannot become women. Cope and seethe harder
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@aaralyn6710 None of those qualify as mutilation.
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@aaralyn6710 Learn the definition of mutilation. The removal of properly functioning appendages is exactly what gender affirming surgeries does
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@SaraMinatz Not physically there isn't. Gender-- there are 2 male/female... That's it
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@cale3214 The entire trans narrative is incoherent nonsense. They conflate science, with science fiction, and pseudo-science, fact w/ fiction, gender, gender roles, personality traits and temperament as though they're all synonymous, and they are not.
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Gender is fixed and permanent and gender roles are not. They're different things. Personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender or gender roles. Gotta know that too
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@malaythegreat4472 Gender-- there are 2. The word gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and relates to the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. MAle and female are biological categories. Trans is a social construct. Men and women are biological reality, not a social construct.
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@malaythegreat4472 Far too many tend to conflate gender and gender roles, then they conflate the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender, as though they're synonymous-- and they are not. If, as you suggest-- gender is disconnected from sex, then one's self-perception which is at odds with their biological reality clearly doesn't alter one's sex. Justify those men being granted access to women's private spaces. You can't, because they aren't
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One could alter their appearance to look like a Klingon if they choose, and it doesn't actually make them a Klingon, and those who think it does are delusional. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Thoughts??
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@markusbaker1161 It appears that simple analogies overwhelm your intellectual capacity. Has that always been the case?
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@markusbaker1161 🙄 Really? smh... waf
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@markusbaker1161 Weak...
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@markusbaker1161 Says the guy who has difficulty deciphering the difference between males and females. sigh...
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@markusbaker1161 You've also not refuted anything or established anything other than your preference to be an agitator, who argues for the sake of argument.
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cis is useless, as there is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female
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Women are women, and men are men-- regardless of how they self-identify, so using cis is redundant and none of anyone's concern, but for those who are extremely confused about the differences between fantasy and reality
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@mariec3733 What is the relevance of your comment?
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@mariec3733 That doesn't justify granting men, access into women's spaces?
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@mariec3733 Act your age. The prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. Your inability to process that indicates you're kinda slow. You only need to be able to read the studies and the DSM definitions that explains them; Until about 5 seconds ago when the hacks you rely on changed the classifications. The only ones fooled are you and yours-- which are the vast vast minority.
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There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. In other news: lgbtq, BLM, trans-activist, sh00tz 9 and killz 5-- so they blame the gunz, or the trans-activist??
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There is No middle ground between fact and fiction
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Yes, All 2 genders
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@Smartypants Nope... Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders -- who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@Nathancant1953 Obviously Sherlock... There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the use of cis totally irrelevant and useless
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They're exposing it for those with eyes to see it
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All form, No substance. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after.
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@katherinetanks632 That's not much of a refutation. When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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@katherinetanks632 Yes, I refuted your comment with mine, and you failed to refute me. Care to give it a shot?
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@katherinetanks632 So far, you've explained away and refuted nothing whatsoever. Give it a try
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They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after. They aren't trans ANYTHING
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@xmasgrump2398 The majority aren't suffering with gender dysphoria. They're LARPing in the same way a drag queen does.
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Yup... Totally narcissistic personality. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid.
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@Maksie0 Neither are delusions
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@Maksie0 Do you? That's all You do, when people don't buy into your talking points. I told you-- you better get used to it
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And what of prisons, locker rooms, dressing rooms, showers?? Bottom line-- bathrooms, prisons, locker rooms, dressing rooms, and showers aren't designed and implemented based on feelings, rather on biology-- and in that regard, there are only males and females.
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@Maksie0 Biology
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@Maksie0 Like you??? Who are you working for?
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@Maksie0 That is coming to an end soon. Cope Harder
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@mariec3733 If you're talking about "disliking" straight men and women as a whole because of small personal experiences, it's because they're straight men and women?
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@mariec3733 Your narrative is out of gas. There is no science anywhere that proves men can become women. Cope Harder
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@sagetifft2864 Many are confused about it because they're inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent, and one's 'Feelings' don't change that fact
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@justyana488 Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender.
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As someone who uses logic and reason, I see a lot of confusion here regarding the fact that, Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. How is there anything phobic about recognizing that someone is not that which they claim to be? It just makes them observant. There's no hate in that
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@markusbaker1161 How is recognizing that they aren't that, which they present as-- being taken to indicate one's feeling about it?
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@markusbaker1161 How so? The 'Because you said so' standard hasn't been issued any credibility-- But That's fine, you're entitled to your opinion. You haven't explained how, by answering my question regarding the differentiation between 'Feelings' regarding the fact that they aren't that which they present themselves as, vs the mere 'Observation' of reality establishing the fact that they aren't.
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@markusbaker1161 That opinion and label holds ZERO integrity, and doesn't stand up to scrutiny-- for the reasons stated, and you've refuted nothing with facts, so my assertions stand.
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@markusbaker1161 Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 I recognize women as women, and those who are not women-- and are trying to look like women are operating from a place which presumes womanhood is a costume which can be put on and taken off. That's wrong
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@markusbaker1161 I recognize that it's a dude attempting to look like a woman
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@markusbaker1161 I reject the term. You fail to persuade
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@markusbaker1161 I reject your definitions and terminology. That's not to say that I don't recognize that there are males and females and that there are segments of each which have various physical and psych issues. According to a Swedish study, Long-term follow-up of transsexual persons undergoing sex reassignment surgery: cohort study in Sweden "Conclusions: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, sui***al behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."
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@Maksie0 How do you figure that unhinged dude, is a woman???
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@justyana488 Look at you-- trying to be edgy... I recommend in the future, being relevant
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He requires all of society to affirm his self-perceived identity as though it's based in objective reality, putting the burden on him to show the majority, who reject his incoherent view of reality, why they should deny objective reality, and so far he's failing miserably
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@elijahtravis2560 I posit that it is those who endorse affirmation-based treatment protocols who are not addressing the root issue, and are willing for them to self delete-- by exhibiting questionable AT BEST ethics, evidenced by the extraordinarily high rate of self-deletes, even after transition, compared to the general population-- but they got paid anyway, and considering that-- the claims of efficacy is totally unjustifiable, imo.
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Drag, cross dressers and trans women all have the same thing in common-- They're ALL men
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@mariec3733 All that's possible is to alter their appearance. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@Maksie0 Dude, you really need to quit using that ridiculous slogan. Trans women are men, and Women who are trans are trans men according to your own cult terminology.
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@Maksie0 Why?? There is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female. How embarrassing for You-- to not be able to process that
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All women are born female, all men are born male and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference, or a costume. They aren't any kind of woman whatsoever.
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@Maksie0 Yes, your belief that men can become women makes you look ridiculous
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They're counting on it
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୨୧ jules One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@conor.3875 It's redundant. One's subjective identity doesn't change their biology
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@conor.3875 Making it redundant and utterly useless
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@conor.3875 You're peddling their talking points. If you can't articulate why you think their narratives are correct-- you're a sheep
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They're men, with ZERO frame of reference as to what it "feels like" to be a woman
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@Maksie0 :face-blue-smiling::face-green-smiling: No, they're men w/ issues who are men pretending to be women without issues
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That would do nothing to address scholarships, prisons, dressing rooms, locker rooms, changing rooms, or confront the fact that those men aren't women, and never will be women
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Seed of the serpent vs the seed of the woman, nephilim, sheep vs the goats, wheat vs the tares, those who's names are found written in the book of life vs those who's names were not found written in the book vs those who's names were blotted out. All corruption and abominations against God's creation. In the end times,it is written that it will be as it was in the days of Noah, when all flesh becomes corrupt.
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@Maksie0 You have failed to substantiate any of your ridiculous claims because they're incoherent madness. Go be angry some more
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@Maksie0 That's called projection. You say trans women are women, and that's wrong. A woman is an adult, human, female. As it turns out, the prerequisite for being a woman is being born female, and those men were not. You then say, trans women are women who are trans-- and that's wrong too. Women who are trans-- are trans men, according to your own narratives-- and you still got it wrong. What's up with that?? Your confusion has nothing to do with me. I can only post information for you-- I can't 'understand' it for you too. That's all on you.
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@Maksie0 The majority reject your incoherent madness. Cope Harder
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@yansideabacoa6257 There is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female. Now you know. Take your time to process reality, then cope harder
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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It's much easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled. Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are inappropriately confusing and conflating gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous and they are not, while simultaneously insisting that biological sex and gender are disconnected-- while failing to realize that a subjective identity doesn't alter anyone's biological reality. Lost souls
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@xjthedestroyr Says who, You? No... Just No. Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is respectable.
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@ItsSchwifty For you maybe. My issue is discerning objective truth from subjective fantasy, and not buying into their world view
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@markusbaker1161 That dude's obnoxious and not lady-like AT ALL. How is it not obvious to you.
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@markusbaker1161 Life isn't free from adversity for anyone, best I can tell
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@markusbaker1161 I can, however; state that it doesn't make them a woman
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@markusbaker1161 HILARIOUS!!! Nothing you've written means I'm incorrect. You've refuted exactly nothing whatsoever, so my statements stand unrefuted. Deal with it
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@markusbaker1161 Doesn't matter. You're wrong
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@lament-um How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition, and are then considered "rational"?
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@markusbaker1161 :face-turquoise-covering-eyes: That was lame, even for you
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@markusbaker1161 The logic it takes to say that someone who has a host of other behavioral/mental disorders (as nearly all dealing with transgenderism do) and is willing to mutilate themselves in irreversible fashion to achieve a status wherein they're still dozens of times more likely to commit sui**de ISN'T mental illness, is amazingly twisted. Insert any other condition and any other incessant desire to self-harm and there would be no dispute whatsoever.
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@markusbaker1161 Your IQ?
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@markusbaker1161 Well, it isn't like you haven't repeated the phrase trans women are women, and other nonsense-- WAY more than 2 or 3 times.
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@markusbaker1161 You're whining for the sake of whining. Grow up :face-turquoise-covering-eyes:
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@markusbaker1161 According to the Black's Law dictionary definition, a woman is an adult, human, female, so-- How do you figure trans women are women? Trans is a social construct. You're still confusing people, which are male or female, with social constructs
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@markusbaker1161 If gender is merely a social construct disconnected from biology, why is it a focus at all-- regarding men being granted access to women's private spaces?
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@markusbaker1161 People are male or female, that's a biological fact. Trans women are men, portraying themselves as a social construct. The only one confused here is you
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@markusbaker1161 You're conflating facts, by writing that trans women are women. Women aren't a social construct dear
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@jessicaivyart How is it misgendering, when pretending they're women and referring to those men as she/her, is grammatically incorrect? That's the real misgendering. The prerequisite to being a woman is to be born female, and those dudes-- weren't
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@knithearts I'm a retired Behavior Modification Specialist, and am fully aware of the condition. Only 2 genders-- Male and Female. Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not.
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Because he's a delusional nut case, proudly displaying his vast ocean of ignorant beliefs, as though they were based in objective reality. Loud and wrong aren't a great combo
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@kyubey-mi1du All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference or a costume-- making the use of cis/trans intellectually vacant, grammatically incorrect, and totally useless
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@Maksie0 That's wrong
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Because they're not trans anything. They're still just men-- who've altered their appearance. Men LARPing in "woman-face"
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@Maksie0 They're not the crazy ones chopping off healthy body parts and pretending that it makes them the opposite sex.
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Science is observable, and none of this subjective gender identity confusion qualifies as anything other than pseudo-science and science-fiction
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Intellectual bankruptcy, coupled w/ psych disorders on their part, causes confusion
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@davestuddaman8127 Almost as dangerous as treating them with affirmative care protocols
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@rambunctiousvegetable Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Try again??
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One wouldn't use pronouns when speaking directly to someone, in the 1st person. They'd use their name. The entire ideological narrative is intellectually vacant
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@jhellygirl Just sayin... There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the use of 'Cis' entirely irrelevant and useless
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That's what was intended
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@Maksie0 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the use of cis totally irrelevant. Those dudes weren't and aren't any kind of woman, and they never will be women. They're still men Now, Off you go-- Junior
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1. How are those-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? 2. Why should those men be granted access to women's private spaces?
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@Maksie0 Normal women vs reactionary freaks, who pretend they're women
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There is only 1 kind of woman and she's born female. Those dudes weren't and aren't justified being granted access into women's private areas designed based on biology -- Not 'Feelings
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@Maksie0 Your cult terminology is rejected. That is a sufficient enough reason
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@Funnyvidsperson Are debates are a foreign concept to you?
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@markusbaker1161 Why does a misogynistic woman hater, like you ask?
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@markusbaker1161 Be curious... No need to prove anything. You've already proven it, to my satisfaction
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@Lulu-xl5cm That clueless dude is an activist troll. There's no such thing as trans people. There are males and females... That's it. A woman isn't a costume that men can simply put on. Women aren't a social construct. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those men weren't.
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There are 2 genders, 2 sexes and a zillion psych disorders. The narrative is inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament with gender.
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@mariec3733 Spoken like a Groomer
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@mariec3733 You haven't been able to make any sense over having biological men being granted access into women's private spaces, despite insisting that sex and gender are separate. Why don't you respect women's rights?
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@mariec3733 1. Of course they're arguing that they're biological women. What do you think it means, when they say a trans woman is a woman? A woman isn't a social construct. 2. Why would anyone need to justify women using women's spaces? 3. I haven't heard men complaining about trans men invading their sports teams, restrooms, locker rooms, Dressing rooms or prisons etc... Have you? 4. This is only speculation, but my best understanding is that very few FtM transgender people have bottom surgery-- so they're more likely to see men being exposed in their girl's shower etc., by allowing biological men who call themselves trans women-- who haven't had bottom surgery, being treated as though they're entitled to be in those women's spaces-- actually allowed in there. NOW, are you going to answer my question or deflect like always, proving you have no integrity?
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@Jhon Dalton The vast vast majority of people don't seem to endorse your narrative which demeans women.
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@Maksie0 What's the swindle? You shouldn't use words you don't know the meaning of, because it makes you look even more ridiculous than you already do
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@Maksie0 You're always triggered and angry. Get help
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@i_love_music-f2m You realize there are LGB conservatives, or maybe you don't
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@mariec3733 There's no such thing as trans. There are males and females... That's it. A woman isn't a costume that men can simply put on. Women aren't a social construct. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those men weren't. Now you know
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@Maksie0 *He... Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@taylorvaden5675 No one is invalidating anyone's existence. They're merely recognizing that he is not a she, or trans anything. That he's still the same sex/gender prior to altering his appearance as he is after-- making them observant
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How would you feel, if the following story happened in your school? "Trans Male Student CHARGED For Beating Up Two Female High School Students In Girls Bathroom!"
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Please never procreate
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@markusbaker1161 Too many more than enough stoopid people breeding, and raising up m0r0ns-- as it is
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Think deeper thoughts. Home schooled kids have friends.
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@batlover1977 Woe to the feminists who buy into this cult ideology. In the near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by men who insist they're women.
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@LiMeiLuv They're gender pretenders. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@TheSands83 Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@Maksie0 Inside and out those are men
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@Maksie0 They're not a new breed. Those men are still men, despite their costume disguises, that aren't fooling anyone but perhaps themselves
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@Maksie0 That won't make what you're saying true either. Kick Rocks
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How are they-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? Why should those men who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria be granted access to women's private spaces?
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@Maksie0 No thanks to you, I am seeking some intelligent answers to legitimate questions, and NO ONE in the peanut gallery seems to have been able to answer. I find that interesting
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Via asylums
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Because that wouldn't address showers, locker rooms, dressing rooms, sports teams, scholarship opportunities, or job opportunities lost. It's for them to adapt to society, not for society to deny reality, affirm their delusions as though they're based in reality, and participate in the LARP and cosplay
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Exactly correct
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There is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female, making the use of cis totally irrelevant and useless
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Ignorance can be remedied with valid information, but st00pid is the lack of capacity to absorb relevant factual information and course correct their thinking, making it last forever
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@markusbaker1161 Women are women and men are men-- regardless of how they self-identify, so using cis is redundant and none of anyone's concern but yours and the trans clowns you endorse
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@markusbaker1161 No, men and women are from earth. The term men and women date back thousands of years to the Bible. It's a matter of historical record and reality, with which you are at odds. You Lose
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@markusbaker1161 You're only fooling yourself.
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@markusbaker1161 Fooling yourself into thinking men are women, because you're not fooling me
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@markusbaker1161 You and yours-- the vast vast minority are wrong. People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and prior. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender.
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@Maksie0 Who told you that? ...and, Why do you believe that it's correct??? Have you always had difficulty deciphering the difference between reality and fantasy?
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@Nyowind Personality traits and temperament are being inappropriately conflated as though they're synonymous with gender-- and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively.
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@mariec3733 The contrast between the vast majority, and the fringe minority that you represent
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@mariec3733 Men are men, not women and vice versa. They're simply not interchangeable. You go on living in your fantasy realm pretending that trans women are women-- but it doesn't make it so
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@mariec3733 No, i reject your narratives-- and am not interested in indulging your intellectual pablum any longer. You've gone out of your way to be an insufferable twat-- so expecting integrity from you is not logical nor reasonable. You fail to make your case. Deal with it and move on
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Just don't conflate gender (There are 2-- male/female... That's it) with Personality traits and Temperament (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys).
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And what about dressing rooms, locker rooms, changing rooms, sports teams, and prisons? It's a bit deeper than just a bathroom issue
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@markusbaker1161 The women complaining about trans women seem to indicate it's trans women not cis men ruining those places.
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@stinkygremlin267 Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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To pretend that there is another kind of woman, other than those who are born female.
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@Maksie0 Dude-- There is only one kind of woman and they're all born females. Cis is less than useless
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@glassesyouneed6876 Happy, well-adjusted people don't tend to self-delete and certainly not in the numbers attributed to the trans community. Just sayin...
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@glassesyouneed6876 Not much of a rebuttal. It's clear you don't know much about reality. Feel free to cope harder about the fact that you're not the center of the universe, and that people don't care about your subjective identity, which is at odds with objective reality.
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@glassesyouneed6876 You seem to not only appear to be arguing for the sake of argument, but you seem to have difficulty recognizing the difference between reality and fantasy. shocker... You fail to persuade.
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Nothing about that unhinged dude says feminine or woman. Hideous cross-dresser is how I perceive him
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@Maksie0 That wrong! Then, they'd just be women. They're men who are trans
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@markusbaker1161 Nah... it's just that facts and the truth that trans women are men is foreign to you, so you don't know what to make of it
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@localdenjifan Logic, reason, and the intellectual capacity to process both are not their strong suit. These trans-activist agent provocateurs have a real problem, and it's that the vast majority reject their mentally unstable, and delusional subjective fantasy
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@judyrocha1724 CPS may have another view of that theory
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@markusbaker1161 I asked you 1st, why do you hate women so much and have such disdain and disrespect for them that you would advocate that men should be able to infiltrate their private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams??
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@markusbaker1161 The question hinges on why you would advocate that men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? You still haven't addressed that
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@markusbaker1161 You would, if you had any integrity, and you'd refute that which is untrue or incorrect-- if you could. That you don't speaks volumes about your relevance and competence
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@markusbaker1161 Nonetheless, my observations regarding your comments are that you have not illustrated any respect for women and their private spaces by advocating in favor of men being allowed to infiltrate their spaces. Why, according to you-- should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim that they're women.
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@markusbaker1161 Why, according to you-- should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Don't be afraid to answer the question. Focusing on nonsense that avoids addressing the elephant in the room, which is that you've failed to answer the above question, much less justify it's consideration should be taken seriously by anyone.
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@Maksie0 They're misgendering themselves. If your self-perceived identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must affirm your self-perception, which is contrary to objective reality-- then your identity is not valid.
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@markusbaker1161 I didn't quote you. I was asking you to justify your position on why should men-- (trans or traditional) be allowed to infiltrate women's spaces, and you failed. Your response is not an answer to the question.
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@markusbaker1161 The only thing relevant is that you haven't and that you can't. It's unjustifiable
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@ItsSchwifty No, that's to 'parent'.
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@ItsSchwifty How many children have you raised/parented that you didn't 'Father', compared to those who you have fathered and parented?
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@Maksie0 There is only 1 kind of woman, and she's born female-- but you already know that which is what makes using cis a slur
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Both are redundant. The only kind of women are biological, and the only kind of females are biological. The word women refers to adults, and the word female covers the age spectrum from newborn to mature adult
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@Milo-nr9kc The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay. There's no hatred involved in recognizing that someone is not that which they claim to be-- It's just being observant of objective reality
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@markusbaker1161 No they aren't. They're men. There appears to be a prerequisite to being considered a trans-woman, and that's being male. There is no science which shows that trans-women aren't males. The fact that people want to pretend otherwise doesn't change objective reality
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@markusbaker1161 No, it does not. Cite the source of the "science" you keep referring to.
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@markusbaker1161 The burden of proof is on those who are claiming that trans-women are women, to prove that they're no longer men. :text-green-game-over::person-turqouise-waving:
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@markusbaker1161 The biology is already established, validating my statements. The psych science validates my statements as well. Dissociative disorders are clearly defined as involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self.
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@markusbaker1161 You're talking about males and females w/ dissociative disorders-- Got it! Nothing you've written invalidates anything I've written. Dissociative disorders which are clearly defined as involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self. Some people suffer w/ both-- None of which invalidate the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species.
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@m1lkyways Nonetheless, Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@Maksie0 There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are
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@mariec3733 Mental illness certainly has been around for a long time
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@aeiou4089 I'm not your sugar-daddy. Quit projecting
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@aeiou4089 Oh how cute-- you think you're edgy. Have you always been anti-social, and lonely?
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The self-deletion rates after the procedure, doesn't show well for the effectiveness of affirmation based treatment protocols, and calls into question the ethics of the medical and psych "professionals" who facilitate those procedures.
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@nel8497 Ooh... I know this... The depraved, the morally bankrupt, the intellectually stunted and the mentally compromised
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@Maksie0 In what way? That said, they don't appear to be mentally ill. 🤔
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It looks like they still haven't figured out that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender yet. That's the root of their confusion
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They're LARPing at BEST
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@GAYmergirl709 No, they are not. They are males. A woman is an adult human female, and they are not that. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after.
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@GAYmergirl709 Not a persuasive argument on your part.
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That doesn't exactly solve the issues w/ locker rooms, changing rooms, showers or prisons... That's why ;)
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@Danielmite17 Yes, they're men w/ issues-- pretending to be women, without issues
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There is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female
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They aren't trans anything. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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@BenDover-gc6qe No, not literally. There's no irrational fear in recognizing that someone is not that which they present themselves as. That's just being observant of objective reality. Recognizing that a kid in a Halloween costume-- is in fact, a kid in a Halloween costume doesn't display any phobia either.
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Ya, that dude is unhinged
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@markusbaker1161 Kick Rocks Groomer
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 @markusbaker1161 Not unlike the word woman, which apparently gives you difficulty as well
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, in that you don't seem able to define either. Your 1st comment here was an insult to me, and you're now whining about me being offensive? You get what you give. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 I haven't had but 2 interactions with someone on the other side of the topic engage with integrity. The VAST majority have been nonsense, and without substance.
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@markusbaker1161 Altering one's structure and a wardrobe doesn't change one's sex/gender. That's a fact
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Should've been men with issues vs women
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@petemiller2920 Recognizing that someone is not that which they claim to be isn't hateful or bigotry-- it's merely a matter of being observant
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@petemiller2920 Really?? Really??? By saying trans-women are women. A woman is an adult, human, female, and they're not that.
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@greenlanternhaljordan4974 Says the person who insists on preferred pronouns, which defy objective reality/facts. How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition, and are then considered "rational"?
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Because gender and sex aren't disconnected. Gender is not a social construct. Gender roles are a social construct, and too many are seemingly unable to process that distinction. We're suppose to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe? Why?? They're misgendering themselves. They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior traits. I mean... C'mon now. It's ludicrous.
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@Maksie0 Has reality always presented you with cognitive dissonance?
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There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females... Those dudes weren't and aren't ANY kind of woman
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@Maksie0 He says, while throwing around slurs.
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@Maksie0 We're not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe
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It is their insistence that others-- who are already minding their own business, participate in their LARP and cosplay, by insisting on the grammatically incorrect use of pronouns, and with no regard for the displacement of women's privacy, which is at the root of how you brought your business to them, making it their business. Irony or idiocy?
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@TheALfever Yes, gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. You're inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@Tylerd838 Those who insist that trans-women are women. They are not
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But that still doesn't address locker rooms, dressing rooms, and prisons
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They're men and have no business in a woman's private space. PERIOD
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They're inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) with gender. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. These delusional living memes illustrate the need for more asylums. They're not 'trans' ANYTHING. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after. The error in the race reference is conflating race with cultures.
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@mariec3733 No confusion here, troll. I've given you the definition of gender. Gender refers to the sex observed/assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. You're conflating gender and gender roles as though they're synonymous and they are not. You're inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive -- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender, as though they're synonymous and they aren't. That's incorrect as well. Gender roles are the social construct you're relying on to make your argument, and they do not invalidate biology. You seem confused about those facts.
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@mariec3733 Like I said, you're conflating gender and gender roles which are long established. If as you're suggesting gender is a mere social construct, it makes my point nonetheless, as it illustrates that trans is merely a social construct that in no way invalidates the objective reality of biology. Next???
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@mariec3733 When questioned about it, you refused to explain the lack of logic behind your endorsement. When corrected, regarding the law, when given the legal definition of a woman being an adult, human, female-- YOU ignored it. When pointed out that science distinguishes the differences between the sexes, you switch to talking about social constructs, insisting that women are a social construct. That is anti-science dear. The problem you have is You-- and the narratives you present are wrong, and you haven't attempted to make it make sense-- when challenged on your beliefs.
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I've noticed a pattern of parents utilizing your suggested approach, having their kid's grow up with tons of problems. How many kids have you raised who've become happy, well-adjusted, productive members of society? There is no hate involved in recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim. That's just being observant of objective reality.
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No... Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then your identity is not valid.
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@Mr.JoeBangles They're dudes. What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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@nkkenlken3220 Quit conflating Gender (There are only 2 male/female), with Personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive--hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles (ALL refer to the roles of males and females in society, ALL are steeped in tradition, with long-standing historical context based in reality, and vary from culture to culture, society to society and country to country), as though they're all synonymous. They simply aren't. A woman isn't a social construct, feeling or a costume. Women (ALL of them)are born female, making the use of cis/trans intellectually stunted, useless and totally irrelevant. Now you know better
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They're not "trans" anything. Still Human, Still Male or Female, as they were when they were born, respectively -- just now with what amounts to an elaborate disguise in the gender binary-- more akin to a drag queen, or cosplay with a dash of psych disorder.
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@yepitsjilly If you believe that gender and sex are separate, then gender doesn't affect your biology so it's redundant
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@yepitsjilly Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are inappropriately confusing and conflating gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous and they are not, while simultaneously insisting that biological sex and gender are disconnected-- while failing to realize that a subjective identity doesn't alter anyone's biological reality. That being the case, justify those men being granted access to women's private spaces.
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@yepitsjilly That doesn't justify those biological men being granted access to women's private spaces. Didn't your genders studies course prepare you to articulate why, and how you believe what you've been taught is true and correct, when scrutinized to a such a degree which exposes the logical inconsistencies and incoherence observed with it?? Try Again?
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@Maksie0 Rejection. Get used to it
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Speaking of facts-- The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are factually, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Thoughts??
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They're narcissists
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They're f'n nutz
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@keefecarroll1985 There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women, illustrating that the trans narrative is a totally bogus, faith-based cult belief with zero evidence to support the claim that trans women are women.
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@keefecarroll1985 Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh
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@marisamorais3150 There's only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female, making the cis distinction irrelevant
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@Maksie0 Nope. ALL women are born female, and that dude wasn't-- and isn't ANY kind of woman
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@Maksie0 Nope, just confused boys (males) and girls (females). Get a grip on reality
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@conor.3875 There's still no science anywhere proving that men can become women, and until there is-- Your narrative remains bogus
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@conor.3875 No Sh*t
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Because they're not trans ANYTHING. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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@Maksie0 Then stay out, and quit your sniveling.
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There is only one kind of woman, and as it turns out-- the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. It's not a costume men can put on and take off, and it's not a personality quirk that the activist narratives conflate with gender.
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@markusbaker1161 Having bottom surgery doesn't make them a woman anymore than neutering a dog transforms him into a female dog, which is not at all.
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@markusbaker1161 That makes them eunuchs, not women of any kind. You can pretend otherwise if you like
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@markusbaker1161 Yours is the caricature of women. I never claimed to represent the trans community. Your ideology and narratives-- are rejected by the majority of people. The only one's fooled by your disguises are you
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@markusbaker1161 I don't care what you said. See the original post. You've not proven it incorrect, and until you do-- whatever you say is irrelevant noise.
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@markusbaker1161 Science has already proven that the binary dichotomy of all mammals is male and female, and that 'that' status is fixed and permanent. What's amusing is that you think you're being clever. It's pathetic that you need proof of the difference between males and females.
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@Maksie0 Yes, it is
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@oatmilk4breakfast It's not true that men can become women and vice versa. THAT's a Fact
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@oatmilk4breakfast No, I said it. How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition, and are then considered "rational"?
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You don't. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) w/ gender
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LOL... There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Trans women are men with issues, pretending that they're women without issues. Take your time to process
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How about you raise your kids and leave the worrying about other people's kids to their parents?
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Need more asylums for those sorts
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@clumsy_zebra_97 Those insisting on everyone's participation with their preferred pronoun usage. Why do you ask?
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 @markusbaker1161 Unlike you, I actually answered their question, dear.
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@markusbaker1161 What you assert are facts are bogus assertions by hacks, and what you assert is evidence is nonsense based on a misguided premise. I asked you why you believe what you're asserting are facts and evidence are true and correct, and you refused to articulate why you believe it to be true and accurate.
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@markusbaker1161 I already have, to my satisfaction.
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@markusbaker1161 No evidence to explain why you believe what you assert to be true and accurate, or to prove what I said to be inaccurate-- That's certain. Those hacks you refer to as experts are challenged by their peers in the medical community, who take issue with the ethics and treatment protocols of those who you put your faith in. Your cult is rejected.
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@markusbaker1161 If you think you can debunk what I said-- Go for it. You haven't yet. No trace of an explanation of why you believe what you assert to be true and accurate, or to prove what I said to be inaccurate-- That's certain. Those hacks you refer to as experts are challenged by their peers in the medical community, who take issue with the ethics and treatment protocols of those who you put your faith in. Your cult is rejected.
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@markusbaker1161 HAHAHAHA That's all you do is deflect, and obfuscate. You've proven nothing. I couldn't care less that they have a self-perception contradictory to objective reality, existing only in their imagination. Observing that they aren't that which they present themselves (ie. women), is merely the power of observation. It's not indicative of my feelings about it. The burden of proof is on those who wish they rest of the world to accept their ideological narrative as true and correct-- and in that, you have failed to persuade.
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@markusbaker1161 Still, No trace of an explanation of why you believe what you assert to be true and accurate, or to prove what I said to be inaccurate. You still fail to persuade
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@clumsy_zebra_97 I'll play... There are 2 genders (Male and female). Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender-- as though they're synonymous, and they are not. Then, they're conflating the difference between gender (Biological) and gender roles (Socially constructed around being male or female,respectively). Then, they conflate sex with gender roles as though they're synonymous, when they say trans women are women. That's grammatically incorrect as well. A woman is an adult, human female, and those men w/ gender dysphoria are not that. .It's no wonder they're confused. Respect is earned and it's reserved for that which is respectable. I reject the cult narrative.
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@markusbaker1161 Still, No trace of an explanation of why you believe what you assert to be true is accurate, or to prove what I said to be inaccurate.
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@markusbaker1161 Why would there be? That's not my case. That's you trying to intentionally and incorrectly frame a narrative, and assign it to me, as though I ever indicated any such thing. People are valid. In reality, trans women are men, and trans men are women. They're still valid people, and I don't know why you have the idea that 'my case' suggests they aren't
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@markusbaker1161 Still, No trace of an explanation of why you believe what you assert to be true is accurate, or to prove what I said to be inaccurate.
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@markusbaker1161 That's incorrect. Why do you keep saying that? I recognize people just fine. People are valid. What is your malfunction?
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@markusbaker1161 People have rights... What are you talking about?
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@markusbaker1161 Are those people you're talking about, or social constructs? I ask because you said gender was a social construct
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@markusbaker1161 What??? You're the one who tries to make silly distinctions, by insisting that sex and gender are separate and disconnected-- Not me. I disagree. I am just trying to have a clear understanding of what you were asking. Science says, People are biological beings, existing in objective reality. They are categorized scientifically as humans, and humans are mammals, and all mammals are all male or female, respectively-- as is the binary dichotomy of ALL mammals. People (Males and females) create social constructs. Social constructs don't create people (Males and females). Social constructs don't alter biology, so calling trans women-- women is grammatically incorrect, as it would be to use a she/her pronoun for a male who's only female in their imagination. Don't get me wrong,you're free to play along if you choose, but in reality-- still men
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@markusbaker1161 Not interested in your intellectual diarrhea, or cult terminology. People have rights. Now what?
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@markusbaker1161 i challenged what you assert are facts with questions about the conclusions of those who you're putting your faith in and why you believe they're correct, and you had no response but disingenuous antagonism, deflection, and playing the part of a fool. I am still open to having an intellectually sound, adult conversation with anyone interested, but you seem to instead prefer juvenile sparring sessions free from integrity. That's your choice, but it isn't conducive to a productive dialogue-- so that's where we're at.
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@markusbaker1161 They were questions. You didn't answer them. You're totally disingenuous, making yourself obsolete. I asked you why you believe those who you're putting your faith in are correct. Apparently that stumps you.
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@markusbaker1161 You've already rendered yourself obsolete to me. I reject your pushed narrative entirely,and you haven't given anyone a reason not to
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@markusbaker1161 Total nonsense. Your assertion is false-- Again. My definition of a woman is the legal and scientific definition of a woman. A woman is an adult, human, female. I'm not interested in anything you have to say, unless it's an explanation as to why you believe those who you're putting your faith in, are correct, when their peers have articulated why they have issues with the conclusions, treatment protocols, and outcomes of their treatment. Why do you dismiss the opposing medical experts and professional's assessment?
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@markusbaker1161 Nope. I support their choice to risk themselves getting pregnant, by engaging in the 1 and only act which causes their totally avoidable unwanted dilemma-- but it isn't as though they aren't aware of the risks.
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@markusbaker1161 There is no such rite, as the rite to terminate the innocent
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@markusbaker1161 My reply would disappear if I spelled it correctly, so I chose to spell it that way-- and it showed up. Weird huh? Gaslight harder
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@markusbaker1161 Nope,tried 3x's. It doesn't matter You're still avoiding justifying men being granted access into women's private spaces, and how that is standing up for their rites
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@markusbaker1161 You lose
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@markusbaker1161 Oh yes. You lost before you started. Women are women, and men are men-- regardless of how they self-identify, so using cis is redundant, and none of anyone's concern but yours. trans clown
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@markusbaker1161 HAHA, I already won. You already lost before you got started. If you want to lie to yourself and pretend that those men are women-- go ahead. You're the only one being played
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@markusbaker1161 There are definitely lots of confused people; Sadly, the law won't stop a significant percentage of those who you're focused on (near 40%), from self-deleting.
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@markusbaker1161 No, that doesn't explain it.
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@ItsSchwifty That isn't much of a refutation
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Ask them how are men-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but wear dresses and present as females, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? Then ask, Why those men who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria should be granted access to women's private spaces?
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, the idiocy of your narrative being what it is, it is hilarious that you buy into any of it
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@markusbaker1161 Just know that in the future, when you insist on your preferred pronouns idiocy, the response will be "I don't care", and it'll be delivered with a smile. I've already exposed the idiocy of your narrative's claims that trans women are women to be ridiculous I know you haven't answered with integrity or honesty, and I don't presume that you will. Kick Rocks Blossom
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@markusbaker1161 Dismiss yourself. You got owned by your own foolishness
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The rate of self-delete even after transition raises the question of efficacy and highlights the questionable ethics of those who are promoting the affirmation-based treatment protocols.
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No-- Restrooms are based on biology, not their sensitive feelings
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@chali8762 How do you figure? Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They appear to be misgendering themselves. How are they not?
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@markusbaker1161 Yup, no answers to my questions. Same silence
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@markusbaker1161 I just put it out there to expose the intellectual inconsistency of the narrative. The lack of direct answers speaks volumes, and leaves my assertions standing as valid, as they are unrefuted.
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@markusbaker1161 😏😶‍🌫
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Not all trans people suffer with dysphoria (OR, are the trans-activists saying that they all do?), but they all do have a way higher risk of self deleting than the rest of the of the general population, so I see it as a more pressing underlying issue to address, than a mere matter of cosmetics. The argument in favor of affirmative care is, if you don't let them transition that they'll self-delete. Well, they seem to do that even if you do let them transition, so as far as I'm concerned it's an invalid argument. Not having coping mechanisms to deal with the adversity one faces in life is a psych issue, that surgery doesn't alleviate-- which begs the questioning of affirmation-based treatment protocols, along with the ethics of those who do
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@criscrosxxx 😏
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They're intellectually and emotionally stunted
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Gender and gender roles are different. Gender-- there are 2 Male and Female. Gender roles is another matter, however one's subjective identity doesn't change their biology. Those who you refer to as trans women are men.
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@markusbaker1161 You seem triggered.
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@markusbaker1161 Says the fool who can't figure out the difference between men and women
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@markusbaker1161 Insisting that gender is separate from sex, while simultaneously insisting that trans women are women-- you don't have to say it. It's clear
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@markusbaker1161 Nope. Gender and gender roles are what you're conflating, leading you to conclusions worthy of mockery
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@markusbaker1161 Women aren't social constructs, they're adult, human, females, so saying that trans women are women-- is wrong
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@Tumbledweeb Because your trans activist ideological narrative is being rejected by the majority. You're the one pretending that your cosplay and LARPing is based in reality, and requires others to participate by denying objective reality
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Gotta watch the 'We' part. They, on the other hand are indeed detached from reality
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They conflate personality traits, temperament and gender with gender roles-- as though they're synonymous, and they aren't.
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@markusbaker1161 Feel free to move along, since what I've written is apparently beyond your ability to comprehend. Your cult narrative and terminology is rejected. Gender-- there are 2, and they are fixed and permanent. No one in history has transitioned from male to female. Cope Harder
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@robo1513 Yes
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@barbymadison878 Is their comment not visible to you?
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@sam-sj5uj Isn't the point of the video to illustrate the fact that there are only males and females and to show that segments of each have a disconnect from reality??
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@sam-sj5uj That's the sound of males and females everywhere, rejecting this incoherent,trans activist, cult ideology and terminology. You better get used to it
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Ya, because he's not a girl; Never has been, and never will be. The dude is a trans-activist, agent provocateur who's shoe size dwarfs his IQ-- pushing an incoherent agenda's talking points, as though it's based in reality.
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@swooningtree It may very well be, that there are none dumber, than those who buy into this incoherent ideological narrative, pushed by trans-activists. I mean, I used to work with the developmentally disabled-- and they didn't have difficulty deciphering the differences between men and women-- they way these activists and troons seem to.
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@Maksie0 How come the trans community then refers to women who are trans as 'trans men'?
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@cosmoslady Sorry if it came across as though we weren't. I am merely adding context to support your observation.
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@markusbaker1161 It's always ridiculous to hear people who cosplay as the "opposite gender" lecture anyone on what real men and women are, as though they're some sort of authority. Totally absurd. The 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female. Take your time processing that
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@Maksie0 They're men who have NO business in women's private spaces. Get over it
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What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Gender and Personality-- They haven't learned the difference. There's only one kind of woman, and they are all born females, so... using the cis prefix is totally redundant and unnecessary. The entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh There are males and females. That's it! Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct; She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals specifically humans. Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1. The body and brain develop & grow together -> One simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2. Hating a part of their body so much that they opt to cut it off, despite it functioning properly-- is a mental illness.
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@eternalM0TH Really? The 1 requirement for being a woman is actually being female, and trans-women aren't that. They're men, so why should they be granted access to women's private spaces?
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@eternalM0TH No, I am just providing more context to the overall topic. Restrooms are designed and implemented based on biology, hence urinals in men's restrooms-- not subjective identity
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@eternalM0TH The point is it isn't limited to bathrooms. They are encroaching on women's other private spaces such as locker rooms, sports teams, and women's prisons as well.
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@eternalM0TH The answer is, men by any other name are still men, they aren't trans anything, and they have no business encroaching on women's rites to privacy.
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not the one whinging about trans rites, becoming unhinged about use of preferred pronouns and wanting special treatment, Blossom. That's ALL YOU You're deluded
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@aaralyn6710 Grow up
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@aaralyn6710 Statistically, home schooled kids do better in every category and by every metric.
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@iamrinn1170 What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That you/they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's your/their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you/they wished they were.
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@dutchdna There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females. Seethe and cope if you must, but it changes nothing
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If trans women believe they're women-- using the prefixes is extraordinarily Odd and thoroughly redundant
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@TwoBassholesandaKaren7107 Seems to me like they need to figure out that gender is not synonymous with personality traits and temperament.
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No, they already have their own restroom. It's called the Men's room
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@0bstinacy Utopia is not for this world. Life isn't fair, and the men's restrooms also have stalls. The entire trans cult ideology is insane
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@Maksie0 You assume wrong a lot
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@dylanayer8438 Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid.
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That's why they don't group anorexia patients together. They continue to affirm the other anorexia patients to lose more weight
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@markusbaker1161 Your awareness isn't required
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@conor.3875 Just telling it like it is
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@conor.3875 Correct too.
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@Maksie0 Trans lady's 1st
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@Maksie0 Yes, you are
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@aprilrae6551 Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@markusbaker1161 If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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@markusbaker1161 Only as a social construct. In reality, Still males presenting as females
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, still males in reality, presenting as that which they are not.
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@markusbaker1161 Still males, presenting as that which they are not. Calling them trans doesn't alter that fact
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@markusbaker1161 No, it does not. They're still delusional men prancing around, pretending to be that which they are not-- and changing what you call them doesn't alter that-- in the least. If their identity is predicted on the notion that all of society must perceive them as they perceive themselves, contrary to objective reality-- their identity is not valid.
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@markusbaker1161 No, it's an objective fact, not an opinion that calling yourself something other than what you are doesn't make you something else, other than perhaps deceptive and / or delusional, if you believe it does-- but it doesn't change a male into a female just because they call themselves something else.
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@markusbaker1161 That's certainly not a refutation. You can believe that if you wish, but that doesn't make you correct or make me incorrect. Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is respectable. That's not an endorsement for being uncivil to someone who's mentally ill.
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@Random-sk6hm That's not much of a refutation. If you intend to persuade, you'll need to do much better at refuting what I wrote.
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@Random-sk6hm You and science didn't prove that there are more than 2 sexes. This just shows us that there are genetic disorders, most of which are still associated with a defined sex and that the minority exceptions do not invalidate the rule-- it proves the rule by being the exceptions. There is no 3rd or 4th or 5th sex. It is still between male and female. A chimera isn't a new species, neither is it a new sex.
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@Menace-To-Humanity YA, "trans" IS the REAL construct.
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@amiraameera8302 Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally because of a psych disorder, attention seeking or both. That you can't wrap your head around that is a You problem. Just cope harder
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@babymoose1616 If your identity is predicated upon the notion that everyone must affirm you, by denying objective reality-- then your identity is invalid. Cope and seethe if you must
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There are people. They are male and female. There are segments of each which present with birth defects and psych disorders, neither of which invalidate the binary of all mammalian species. Developmental sex disorders are not separate sexes/genders. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspect of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) and are incorrectly attempting to use the term as a synonym for/with gender
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@thankyouforbeingafriend9632 Yes, it is, and only a very very small minority of people aren't clear on the matter.
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@Maksie0 Gender (There are 2) and personality (There are tons)-- learn the difference.
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I'd have told him, "Dude, knock it off"
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@markusbaker1161 "would of said"? Really? No, 'would have said' or 'would've said' -- But I digress, You sure seemed to care enough to comment-- Again. :face-blue-smiling:
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@markusbaker1161 Yet, here you are-- caring enough to comment yet again and again.
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@markusbaker1161 You do. Rinse/Repeat
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 @markusbaker1161 You come across as a lonely attention seeker
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@markusbaker1161 You're an anarchist
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They started, with their preferred pronouns insistence, contrary to objective reality.
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@Maksie0 The male and female restrooms already exist. No need to bring it back. Duh
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They say gender identity and sex are separate, but haven't been able to justify encroaching on spaces designated segregated based on sex, as an entitlement. Not even close They also haven't come close yet, to being able to justify the expectation that just because they present and identify in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must treat them as though they're the opposite sex. It's absurd. Make it make sense
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Same as restrooms-- Prisons are designed around sex/biology, not subjective feelings and identities, which are contrary to objective reality.
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No... That won't address women's sports, dressing rooms, changing rooms, showers, scholarships or prison. Got male bits, use the male restroom. Restrooms are implemented based on biology, not subjective feelings of the infinitely confused
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@markusbaker1161 Your choice to use a term describing a social construct, when discussing people which are not social constructs doesn't make sense
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@markusbaker1161 You can't prove those whom you're believing are correct? Even if it were true, gender doesn't invalidate biology-- so why then should those men being referred to as 'trans women', be granted access to women's private spaces? You have NO justifiable reason
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@markusbaker1161 Don't need to. Understanding that you all believe that sex and gender are separate-- there is no reason yet presented by either of you for why those biological men should be granted access to biological women's private spaces.
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@markusbaker1161 Watching you avoid common sense by avoiding the elephant in the room is curious to say the least. Activist much?
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@markusbaker1161 You haven't been able to make any sense over having biological men being granted access into women's private spaces, despite insisting that sex and gender are separate. Why don't you respect women's rights?
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@markusbaker1161 I couldn't find any evidence that supports the notion that men can become women or vice versa
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@markusbaker1161 So you say. No evidence to back it up seems suspicious
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@markusbaker1161 Classic avoidance on your part-- again. Our society has fallen under a strong delusion where women, REAL women have been reduced to a feeling. The trans agenda is just sickening and the fact that the West has succumbed to its delusions is just horrifying.
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@markusbaker1161 I don't read any response by either of you justifying those men who's gender you're referring to, being granted access to women's private spaces
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@markusbaker1161 No, worries... I'm correct, regardless of your inability to comprehend how and why.
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@Roxana Blacksea They're deleting and shadow banning comments in the comment section the same way.
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* His
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@ItsSchwifty Which is why their insistence on their preferred pronouns being used by others is silly. Pronouns are also reserved for speaking to another about someone else, not used when addressing an individual directly
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The definition I use is: Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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@Maksie0 Cope and seethe harder. Those dudes will never be women
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Not trans ANYTHING... Still male after altering his appearance as he was prior
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@mr.mclibtard5015 The entire ideological narrative is totally incoherent absurdities and abstract talking point totally removed from objective reality which fails to stand up to scrutiny, but they cling on like religious fanatics clinging to their cult.
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders -- who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and prior. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender.
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@Maksie0 Just observing the intellectual vacancy involved with pretending that there is another kind of woman, other than those born female.
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Should do doctors pro and con re: the efficacy and the ethics of affirmation-based treatment protocols, considering the self-delete rates and de-transitioner's regrets
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@cherryx2113 Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1.) Your body and brain develop & grow together -> You simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2.) Hating a part of you body so much, that you cut it off, is a mental illness.
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No one is saying you can't express yourself as you wish. You can identify as a Klingon if you choose-- BUT, that doesn't mean that others will perceive you as you perceive yourself. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do.
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Being "trans" IS the construct, based in fantasy
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@jazzy9983 They're not trans anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after.
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No such thing as a transgender person. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance-- as they are after
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@Maksie0 Just stop it... There's only 1 kind of woman, and she's born female. Those dudes weren't
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@Maksie0 Cope and seethe harder. Those men will never be women. The sound you hear is that of men and women everywhere rejecting your bull 💩. Don't believe me-- ask Budweiser
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They already have one. It's called the men's room
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Woe to the feminists who buy into his incoherent ideology, as they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men who will say they're women-- and those feminists don't even see it coming
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E X A C T L Y correct! 1 million up votes
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@ItsSchwifty Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then your identity is not valid.
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@AVIANAESMERALDASZISTENNO It's XX, XY, Birth defects, and Psych disorders... That's it I accept that there are people. They are male and female, and segments of each present w/ various physical birth defects and various psych disorders, some with both. People like Blossom aren't trans anything. There merely caricatures of that which they wish they could be, and never will-- women
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@markusbaker1161 You seem to care enough to comment-- Again, and Again, and Again I don't need to be a doctor to decipher the difference between boys and girls, or men and women. I never addressed the struggles that those who are suffering with gender dysphoria contend with; I have only ever taken issue with the concept of affirmative therapy from an ethical standpoint and with the trans-activist narratives using incorrect terminology which causes confusion and thwarts effective communication
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@AVIANAESMERALDASZISTENNO Really?? How so? Do elaborate. The whole sex is a spectrum thing is absolute nonsense
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@markusbaker1161 The agitator/stalker strikes again... Why are you presuming I'm upset? BTW, I'm not the one advocating the ideological narrative that would prefer that I use subjective preferred pronouns, BUT-- You are the advocate who's failed to make the case, and persuade me to reconsider my thoughts, which are still unrefuted.
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. That you can't wrap your head around that is a You problem It's a real psych issue, no doubt-- which has ZERO impact on biological reality
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@Maksie0 I hate to break it to you, but there's only one kind of woman, and she's born female.
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fyi-- Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue are people who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@Maksie0 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female-- so now you know better
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@nerd5 1. Genetics/DNA XX, XY, Birth Defect, and There are clearly males and females with several biological abnormalities, infertility, post menopausal, anomalies and surgeries-- still male or female, respectively-- and none are representative of a new sex/gender that invalidates the binary. You can neuter your male dog, make him wear makeup and a dress, and it doesn't make him a female dog. Just sayin... 2. Intersex isn't another gender in the binary. Why, because there is no newly discovered benefit or attribute elevating the human design and are often infertile, but always only represent the 2 sexes in the binary. Also, none are A-sexual w/ the ability to reproduce offspring by themselves. It's a silly argument to make. Would you argue that people born with one arm and leg invalidate the norm of people having 2 arms and 2 legs? fyi-- It does not
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@markusbaker1161 Because they're men, telling women what it is to be women
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@markusbaker1161 Call them whatever you want-- They're men. You conflate social constructs with biology, when you say trans women are women. It's patently absurd and totally incorrect. Women aren't a social construct; trans however, IS. Those are men Your cult narrative is rejected.
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@markusbaker1161 They're still men. You have my permission to pretend otherwise, and call them whatever you want. Still men
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@fallengoat4896 You hear that? That's the trans ideology being rejected wholesale by men and women everywhere. Don't believe me? Ask Budweiser
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@conor.3875 So stay tf out of women's private spaces. Pretty simple
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@conor.3875 Relax... Don't be a drama queen
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@markusbaker1161 The fact is that males who don't identify with their biology are still males-- and that seems to cause you confusion. Anyway... According to the psych science, what you're talking about is categorized under the umbrella of dissociative disorders
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@markusbaker1161 Your clown routine doesn't alter the fact that you've cited nothing whatsoever that invalidates anything I've written I recommend being relevant, in the future. Dissociative disorders are clearly defined as those involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self. 😏😮🧐
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@markusbaker1161 That you don't understand the relevance changes nothing. That those trans-women you're talking about are still males, regardless of the choice to call them something else changes nothing
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@markusbaker1161 Dissociative disorders are clearly defined as those involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self. The fact is, males who don't identify with their biology are still males-- and that seems to trigger you for some reason and cause you angst, and confusion. Anyway... According to the psych science, what you're talking about is categorized under the umbrella of dissociative disorders. You've not cited anything whatsoever, which has invalidated anything I've written by proving me incorrect.
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@markusbaker1161 I am qualified to read a definition, written by those qualified to craft and write it and diagnose it. That you have trouble with it is a YOU problem
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@markusbaker1161 It means, by definition that they suffer with a dissociative disorder, or they're just a weirdo in a dress w/ a quirky fashion sense
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, I actually do know. I know you have not invalidated anything I've written by citing anything which debunks my statements or understanding of the topic. I don't share your reading comprehension deficit, preventing me from reading and comprehending the definitions. Dissociative disorders are clearly defined by the "authorities", as those involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self. That you can't figure out the relevance is on you. 😏😮🧐
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@markusbaker1161 You're certainly not qualified to say, and you've presented nothing whatsoever which has proven anything I've said to be inaccurate. So, suck it up buttercup
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@markusbaker1161 You have certainly not proven me incorrect. Suck it up buttercup
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@markusbaker1161 The point is those men are not women, and people recognize that. If you don't-- fine... If you do and want to pretend you don't, that's fine too. Either way, it doesn't make them women
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@markusbaker1161 They're biological men, and their self-perceptions counter to that fact, are entirely irrelevant and change nothing.
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@markusbaker1161 No that's wrong. The prerequisite for being a woman is actually being female, and trans-women are males. trans-women are men. Your arguments are irrelevant
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@markusbaker1161 No they aren't, and you've failed to prove otherwise
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@markusbaker1161 No they are not, and your failure to cite anything which proves me incorrect means, you've got nothing but baseless claims
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@markusbaker1161 You keep saying that, but you've provided exactly zero evidence to back it up. I don't need to convince anyone of anything, least of all-- that objective reality must be suspended because of someone's delusional sense of self, contrary to objective reality, despite their elaborate efforts to present as 'other than' their biological reality. I can see with my own eyes, like everybody else.
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@Maksie0 The obvious escapes you, and it is that they don't need to concern themselves with such things at that age. It doesn't serve their best interest to get such information. They're focusing on learning to read, write, do math, not learning to deal with the nuances of people with disorders
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@mariec3733 Not any sort of a rebuttal. You're going to have to do much better than that. There is no science anywhere proving men can become women and vice versa. As it turns out, science has established the binary dichotomy of all mammals being male and female and establishing that those are permanent and fixed status categories. Your cult ideology is rejected. Cope harder
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They are not trans anything. They're males
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@fallengoat4896 It doesn't matter. If you listen really closely, you can hear the sound of women and men everywhere rejecting the incoherent trans ideology and terminology and calling it out for the bull 💩that it is. Don't believe me?? Ask Budweiser
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I get your point, but it doesn't need that delusional living meme-- to illustrate the need for more asylums. That's clear already. They're not 'Trans' ANYTHING. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after.
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@theophilus333 You've refuted nothing whatsoever. Science is merely a method of study. Gender and sex are not disconnected-- in that Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth AND the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent, and trans people aren't trans ANYTHING. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after. You and many others are conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. You appear to be conflating science w/ science-fiction.
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@WappleFan Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh
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Just for clarity, I'm not a woman and I know that a woman is an adult, human, female. It's not complicated at all.
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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TOTAL Intellectual bankruptcy. There are males and females, and there are minority segments of each which present with birth defects and various mental illnesses/psych disorders. They aren't "trans" ANYTHING. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance and chemistry, as they are after.
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@damiandavis4831 Yes, I did. Not everyone-- apparently, has the ability to connect the dots and look at the Big Picture w/ their blinders on. I'll give it another try... There are males and females, and minority segments of each suffer w/ birth defects, mental illness and various psych disorders, as some with all of the above... Still male or female-- So, there's no need for separate restrooms for all of the above, the costs of which will be passed on to everyone. No.... Just No Male, Female, Birth Defect-- That's all there is
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@damiandavis4831 I'm not suggesting that those places which are implementing that solution shouldn't. I'm just mindful of imposing the additional costs onto those who aren't and how that will increase the costs for everyone
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@damiandavis4831 Building new asylums makes more sense to me
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That dude is ins@ne
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@Maksie0 You sure are
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No
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@GeishaEntertainer The medical profession isn't interested in curing illness. They've prioritized their interested in profiting off of treating illness. What was once a perhaps noble profession has become corrupted
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@catboyash :face-blue-smiling::face-green-smiling::face-turquoise-drinking-coffee::face-turquoise-covering-eyes: That's all wrong
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@markusbaker1161 You're going to have to do better than the 'because you said so' standard. I am not the one with the dissociative disorders, who has difficulty deciphering the differences between men and women, or biology in general
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@markusbaker1161 The biological science supports me, and the Psych data covering Dissociative Disorders are established confirming of what I've been writing. You, on the other hand have provided nothing but noise. Your Islamophobia is disgusting
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@markusbaker1161 Your clown routine doesn't alter the fact that you've cited nothing whatsoever that invalidates anything I've written
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You have to have at least half of your brain removed for that to make any sense-- so I've heard.
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They're already debunked, but you'll never get them to admit it. They're 🐑
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@Maksie0 How is it unreasonable??
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@reneesargent6099 Don't waste your time. That fool is an activist troll
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@ItsSchwifty "Socialism has a history of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it".-- T. Sowell
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@Maksie0 If she finds it offensive, who are you to question it?
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@markusbaker1161 Cissexual was coined in the mid 1990s by a German sexologist. He used the Latin preposition cis, meaning “on this side of,” as a contrast to transsexual, trans being the Latin for “on the other side of” or “across.”
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@markusbaker1161 That's not contradicting what I posted, but thanks...
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@markusbaker1161 Your snarky comment, telling me to educate myself, was you pretending you had a clue about my education needing work. You can't even do your own research without someone spelling it out for you. Totally incompetent or just a troll playing the fool?
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. You can feel free to pretend otherwise, but it changes nothing
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@markusbaker1161 Then, it obviously was a lie, evidenced by me posting the info. Either way-- Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@markusbaker1161 If they start their own league--You should go for cheerleader tryouts.
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@markusbaker1161 Then, perhaps security for the snack cart, or you could sell rainbow flags and face paints. I'm sure someone can find a use for you if not in an official cheer leader capacity, as a support staff. Perhaps you could carry the 'balls'
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@markusbaker1161 Don't cry. Have another snack, and you'll feel all better
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@markusbaker1161 I thought for sure you'd realize I was merely mocking you. Oh well... Stay triggered then
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@markusbaker1161 Turn about is fair play, is it not? Not inferior, though consider that a sign of intelligence is the ability to assimilate new information which crushes your narrative, and course correct your thinking moving forward. You seem unable or unwilling to do so. The inability to do so-- isn't a sign of higher intelligence-- quite the opposite actually. Just sayin... But if you insist-- then, I suppose; Make of that what you will. It makes no difference to me. You're just not that important. Cope with that however you choose I know that there's definitely a spectrum for intelligence ratings and you can't fit a 3-digit IQ's worth of comprehension into a 2-digit IQ comprehension capacity. I accept that there are people who just CAN'T 'understand it'. Buh bye
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@markusbaker1161 Nah... My personal observation is that you are exercising an attention-seeking behavior, and tend to prefer to engage in anti-social interactions, and when challenged on your assertions-- rather than civil discourse and showing any intellectual integrity as a part of your equation, you play the part of the antagonist. Not unlike a child who acts out with a tantrum, when they don't get their way
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@markusbaker1161 Yet, Blossom treating the woman who stated her objection to being called cis was a non-issue for you. Hypocrisy, thy name is Markus Baker.. Beat it, hypocrite
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@markusbaker1161 Look... REAL Talk, OK??? I have NO problem realizing that there are people who have identity issues. I wish them well in their endeavors to deal with those issues; however-- recognizing that they are not that which they present themselves as, just makes me observant-- Not hateful I haven't been able to make sense of those who advocate affirmation care as a default protocol. The sad fact about the people who suffer with gender dysphoria, and those who inappropriately put themselves under the same umbrella-- who do not suffer with it, yet cosplay as though they do, have other underlying traumatic issues in play-- in addition and the su***de (both prior to and post surgery) is so much higher than the norm, and post surgery-- the numbers I've seen are astronomically high as well, showing unremarkable movement-- SO that being said, I just don't see how it's possible to see those rates and believe it's effective. Can you make it make sense? I can't
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@Maksie0 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and addresses the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Of course, you already know that since I've already informed you-- troll. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent.
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@Maksie0 It's irrelevant. If your subjective identity require that others affirm it, as though it's based in reality-- when it is not, then THAT identity is not valid.
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And what of prisons, locker rooms, dressing rooms, showers?? Bottom line bathrooms aren't designed and implemented based on feelings, rather on biology-- and in that regard, there are only males and females
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Short answer: Their psych disorders and imagination... nothing more
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@mariec3733 Mental illness is everywhere. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@markusbaker1161 The truth stings-- I know. Don't get triggered. Just relax. Take deep breaths. No doubt, your cognitive dissonance is on overload
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@markusbaker1161 You think it's not true that mental illness is everywhere? That's just ignorant
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@markusbaker1161 Why do you dismiss the opposing medical experts and professional's assessment and their reasoning?
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@mariec3733 You seem to be looking to provoke and incite conflict, in search for negative attention. Sad
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@markusbaker1161 I already answered that. You said you weren't going to read the response, so quit asking. Go back and re-read if you're interested
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@markusbaker1161 Having admitted not reading my replies, you wouldn't know
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@markusbaker1161 It does illustrate that you use smear tactics with no basis in fact, proving you to have no ethics, and showing you to be of low moral character.
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@markusbaker1161 I did. You didn't want to read them. Those comments are still there. Go find them and read them
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@markusbaker1161 F-Off... Don't be lazy, and take my word for it. Do some research.
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@markusbaker1161 You have internet access. Use it for something productive, for a change. I'm not writing a scientific paper for peer review here. The stats are in, the sources are cited. Go research them yourself, then apply some comparative analysis, if you're capable. If you could prove anything I said was inaccurate, you would have-- and you have not. Incompetence on your part, or you know you're wrong and I'm correct? Do Better You're unarmed in a battle of wits
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@markusbaker1161 Sucks to be you. I verified the claim of what the stats show for myself. I recommend you do the same. You can of course, choose to remain ignorant. It makes no difference to me
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@markusbaker1161 Your incompetence is noted, and it's why you're not taken seriously. I condemn the ethics of those who promote affirmation therapy, as the results are horrendous, evidenced by the stats showing the rate of self-termination even after surgeries. If you're interested, I recommend not taking my word for it, rather go verify for yourself. buh bye
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@markusbaker1161 No need. A quick search will yield results showing the stats. It'd be really easy to prove me incorrect, if I was incorrect-- but you can't, because I'm not
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@markusbaker1161 That the analysis of the stats show the affirmation therapy approach yields horrendous results, evidenced by the rate of self deletions, de-transitioners and their regrets and horror stories, and post surgery results going wrong.
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@markusbaker1161 No need. The info is available with a quick internet search. The internet can be used for more than trolling and p0rn. Try being productive for a change, quit being lazy, and go look it up for yourself.
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@markusbaker1161 I don't have a need to prove anything to you. If you're interested, there's nothing stopping you from using your internet access to be productive and find out for yourself. I'm not willing to be more interested in curing your ignorance than you are
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It doesn't matter. If you listen really closely, you can hear the sound of women and men everywhere rejecting the incoherent trans ideology and terminology and calling it out for the bull 💩that it is. Don't believe me?? Ask Budweiser
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@Maksie0 All women are born female. Now, you know
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@Maksie0 Wow, you are so wildly confused. I, for many years used to work with the developmentally disabled, and they didn't have difficulty deciphering the difference between men and women. What's your excuse??
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@sohailahaithem2424 Yup... That's pure projection from that activist troll
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@sohailahaithem2424 They think most people don't recognize objective reality, or them-- in their cosplay/LARP-- apparently.
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They do, they just don't care
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@markusbaker1161 It's as if you fail to realize the other comments are actually visible. Interesting
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The thing drag queens, trans women and cross dressers all have in common is they're all men
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@mariec3733 You're saying drag queens are portrayed by women, or would those be drag kings or some other name that doesn't change the fact that trans women are men, portraying themselves as the opposite sex??
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@mariec3733 All that's possible is to alter their appearance. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@mariec3733 Let me know when your mental illness is under control
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Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh
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ZERO-- They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after. They aren't trans anything
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@highgatehandyman6479 Not a surprise that people w/ mental issues can't see reality for what it is
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The poster child for why people may say, F- Your preferred pronouns psycho
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@jennifersteele7036 No-- The 1 prerequisite for being a woman is actually being a female, and *he's not that. Your failure to comprehend basic logic changes nothing whatsoever
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@jennifersteele7036 Depends... They aren't all the same. Some present with more male appendages, and others with more female, neither with both being fully functional, most infertile. Either way, that is a birth defect / genetic defect-- not another gender invalidating the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species-- make of that what you will. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female. Gender is not a social construct. Gender roles are the social construct that many are confused about. Cope Harder
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It's use is thoroughly intellectually vacant, as there is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female
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@conor.3875 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Those dudes weren't, and will never be ANY kind of woman. Perspective is a wonderful thing to have, and a terrible thing to not
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@conor.3875 Gay and lesbians have no difficulty deciphering the differences between males and females, and Bi people understand that there are 2 choices in the binary. What's your excuse??
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@conor.3875 confusing men as women
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@conor.3875 You were saying trans women are women and that's wrong-- So... Glad you figured it out
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@conor.3875 No... A woman is an adult, female, human, and those men are not. As it turns out-- the prerequisite to being a woman is being born a female. There isn't any science anywhere which proves a male can become a female-- so your narrative is pure nonsense. You are conflating personality traits and temperament (neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are Not.
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@conor.3875 And that's why using the word woman to describe them is absurd nonsense. They're not women of any kind. They're men playing dress up
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@conor.3875 Because they're males who merely altered their appearance. Still males
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@markusbaker1161 You seem to have a vested interest in suggesting that men, when presenting as women-- should be granted access to women's spaces and that women should be okay with that.
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@markusbaker1161 :face-green-smiling::face-blue-smiling:
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@markusbaker1161 I think when you're having a meltdown on a viral video toward a poor store clerk screaming, "It's MA'AM" -- says everything that needs to be said
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@markusbaker1161 Silly, of course you don't. I understand. Cognitive Dissonance is Real
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@markusbaker1161 The fact that calling something by another name doesn't make it something else.
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@markusbaker1161 No. It's based on the capacity for observing and discerning reality from fantasy
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@markusbaker1161 It is what it is
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@markusbaker1161 Objective reality vs subjective identity. Dissociative disorders are mental health conditions that involve feelings of being detached from reality.
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@markusbaker1161 You're not persuasive at all, and you appear to be under the impression that your opinion is of some value. It isn't
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@markusbaker1161 :face-blue-smiling::face-green-smiling::face-turquoise-covering-eyes::text-green-game-over:
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, the hilariously asinine tripe that you believe to be true is why you fail at life
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@markusbaker1161 If they've already won, I look forward to the absence of their continual whining
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@markusbaker1161 You said they'd already won years ago. They shouldn't be whining or having to fight at all, if you were correct. Ooops
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My issue is discerning reality vs their subjective, delusional self-identity which mocks it-- by suggesting we need to affirm their self-perceived identities. The answer is No... Just No They aren't 'trans' anything whatsoever. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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@SlipperyTeeth The trans activist arguments will either stand up to scrutiny or they won't-- and they do not.
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@SlipperyTeeth Opinions... Some say, opinions are like A-h0les... Everybody has one. Others say, some opinions are more equal than others. I say, opinions are like 0rg@sms... Mine is more important than theirs, and I don't care if they have one or not. You can either make your case using logic and reason or you can't, regardless of your background-- and you/they haven't. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female making the use of cis totally irrelevant and useless. A woman isn't a feeling, a s3xu@l preference or a costume. Now, you know better
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@Maksie0 Bot
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@dannyyspencerr You think a social construct alters your biology? It does not. That dude is a he
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@royalbitches6330 No... As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman and that's being born female. Those are men
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@DoReMeaCulpa Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@marcusweaver6766 The relevant point is that men cannot become women
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Still male or female, respectively. Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior traits
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@markusbaker1161 Only in the land of make believe
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@markusbaker1161 Reality says you're delusional because in reality trans women are men
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@markusbaker1161 Faulty logic is your dilemma
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@markusbaker1161 Proving my point that faulty logic, is your dilemma
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@markusbaker1161 It's unadulterated misogyny. Those are men, they will always be men. Their imaginations and subjective personality traits and temperament don't change the fact that those trans women aren't trans anything-- They're men
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@markusbaker1161 Your prop@g@nda is rejected
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@markusbaker1161 What you think doesn't persuade.
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@markusbaker1161 You're projecting
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@markusbaker1161 No, none whatsoever. Here's a fact: men can't become women
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@markusbaker1161 Make up your mind. You said sex and gender were separate. Now, you're mixing them together as if they aren't.
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The way I see it is, Trans women are still men. You're not trans anything. You're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as you are after transition. It seems all you've done is drastically alter your appearance, and natural body chemistry. Still male How is that not accurate?
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The problem with the trans activist ideological narratives is that life is based in objective reality, and the vast majority of people don't have difficulty deciphering the differences between reality and the trans imagination. Gender (There are only 2 male/female). Too many conflate gender with personality (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tom boys), and with gender roles (Which vary from culture to culture, country to country, and society to society and without exception they ALL relate to the roles of males and females in those cultures, societies, and countries which all have long-established cultural norms, as though they're all synonymous-- and they are not. What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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Women are Women, and Men are Men-- regardless of how they self-identify, or if they present in such a way that is contrary to their biological reality.
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@markusbaker1161 Those who insist on exercising controlling over other people's language, by insisting on preferred pronoun usage, contrary to objective reality
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@markusbaker1161 :face-blue-smiling::face-green-smiling:
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@markusbaker1161 The irony of your incorrect use of the word 'you're', while you're pointing out Your ignorance, isn't lost on me. :face-blue-smiling::face-green-smiling::face-turquoise-covering-eyes::text-green-game-over: Those men are just not that which they present themselves as, but If you're fooled or just want to pretend they are, nothing is stopping you
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@markusbaker1161 Ignoring the pertinent information again, it seems. Those men are just not that which they present themselves as, but If you're fooled into believing that they are, or if you just want to pretend they are-- nothing is stopping you from doing so. Not all of us have eye sight issues or cognitive issues, and most of us aren't interested in playing pretend, or being willfully ignorant-- along with you
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@markusbaker1161 Blah, blah, blah... You just can't get enough of my attention. It's cringe
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@markusbaker1161 Meh... 😴
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@markusbaker1161 You do not honor the desires of women or recognize their privacy rights.
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@markusbaker1161 You already did
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not going to ignore what I can observe with my own eyes, and promote make believe, or cater to feelings by pretending that the identity of people who identify as something they're not in reality, is valid. They're still men, not women and they have no business in women's private spaces Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody mocking female behavior and personality traits.
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, confused people exist. Respect is a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements and it's earned and reserved for that which is actually respectable.
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@markusbaker1161 I couldn't possibly care less about your feelings. You've proven yourself to be absent of any integrity or substance. You've failed to prove that those people you're referring to as trans women-- are anything other than men
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@markusbaker1161 You're about as close to irrelevant as it gets, so Your acceptance isn't required, and your agenda is rejected. Your stamp of approval isn't valued or needed. You've already lost the logic argument, and again by conflating science with science-fiction. Those men will always be men, regardless of your insistence to the contrary, and you've failed to make a case proving me incorrect
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@markusbaker1161 Are You? The burden of proof is on you and those who promote the trans-ideological narrative that your claims are true and correct
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@markusbaker1161 The evidence is the video and it's comment section you're making a fool of yourself in, genius
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@markusbaker1161 No... You
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@markusbaker1161 Your absence of integrity, evading answering questions, and no evidence whatsoever of a coherent argument anywhere to be found-- is uncanny. If you're suggesting it exists-- provide evidence of it existing,because it's nowhere to be seen Your agenda is twisted
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@markusbaker1161 My comments stand as they are still not yet refuted by you or anyone else; meaning-- I don't require a defense for facts and truth.
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@Maksie0 Your narratives are the ones which are nothing more than incoherent madness. Your opinion is rejected for being less than useless whinging, and your screeching nonsense only highlights your disconnect from reality.
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@Maksie0 I get it. You're mad because I see through the nonsense that you push for what it is-- total absurd nonsense.
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not the one obsessed with putting on women's clothes and pretending it makes me something I'm not, as though womanhood were a costume that can be put on or taken off with magical transformative properties.
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@markusbaker1161 So? You don't appear to know that men cannot become women either, or that calling men 'trans women', doesn't change them from being men into something else.
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@markusbaker1161 No doubt that people cosplaying as the opposite gender and referring to themselves as transgender exist and calling men 'trans women', doesn't change them from being men into something else
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@markusbaker1161 Cry a river about the facts that men cannot become women if you must-- it changes nothing
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@markusbaker1161 No, you are. You think men should be granted access to women's spaces because they rename themselves transgender... It's absurd
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@markusbaker1161 "Trans"gender is the REAL social construct
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@markusbaker1161 Then, have them use your front lawn. What you're referring to as "transgender women", are men--by any other name, still men. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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No, indecent exposure in public is a crime
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@tarajoyce3598 That's why those men have no business in the women's room
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@tarajoyce3598 Well, isn't that special... I don't know if you're aware, but those men have access to those amenities in the men's room too. I hate to break it to you, but regarding gender-- There are 2, male and female, and one's personality and quirky fashion sense doesn't alter that permanent state. If your subjective identity is in conflict with objective reality, then that identity isn't valid. People aren't obligated to indulge their LARPing or cosplay. I reject the entire incoherent ideological narrative
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@tarajoyce3598 Also, I don't know if you're aware, BUT-- Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct. She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals specifically humans. The definition of a woman is an adult, human, female, and the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female-- and those men weren't. Now you know
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@tarajoyce3598 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. As it turns out the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those dudes presenting as 'other than' men, aren't. Still men IF as you stated gender and sex are disconnected (they're not), then justify those men being granted access into women's private spaces. You can't, because they aren't If your subjective identity is in conflict with objective reality, then your identity is invalid. Too many are inappropriately and incorrectly conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive--hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not. Then they inappropriately conflate the difference between gender and gender roles. No, I reject the entire incoherent ideological narrative. Personality and gender-- learn the differences
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@tarajoyce3598 Well, woe to the feminists like you who buy into this incoherent ideological narrative, as in your near dystopian future-- you'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim they're women-- and you don't even see it coming. smh
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@tarajoyce3598 BTW-- Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable... That's why sovereign nations have borders. Think Deeper thoughts
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@tarajoyce3598 The devil is in the details. An equal society in terms of opportunity vs outcomes is an important distinction, because when free to choose-- men and women choose differently, which leads to different outcomes. Equal outcomes isn't possible in a free society for that reason
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@tarajoyce3598 What legal inequality are you referring to? They have the same access and equal opportunities as any other male or female, do they not???
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@tarajoyce3598 Who told you that? and... Why did you believe them? You already can't discriminate based on s3x, rayse, s3xual orientation, r3ligion. Parents who engage in affirming their children's delusions and norm@lizing them, imo-- are engaging in abuse
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@markusbaker1161 You have yet to learn to decipher the truth from the supposed facts you're referring to, and it appears you haven't figured out that correlation doesn't equal causation either. You have yet to prove your claims that trans women are women who are trans or that men can become women. You say, Trans women are women who are trans... And women who are trans, are also trans men... And Trans men are men who are trans... And men who are trans, are also trans women? So, trans women are also trans men? You're appear extremely confused about life and your absence of logic, reason, and critical thinking is evident in your comments
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@markusbaker1161 I don't have to do anything. You hear that sound??? Listen closely.... It's the sound of women and men rejecting your ideology, and terminology for the nonsense that it is. You better get used to it.
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@markusbaker1161 I don't care about that empty-headed, impotent label, transphobia. There's no fear here. I couldn't possibly care any less about your approval or acceptance. That the trans side of the isle's complaint, looking to be accepted by the world, as though they are actually women or men-- They aren't. The sound of women and men rejecting your ideology, and terminology for the nonsense that it is something You better get used to. :text-green-game-over:
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Honest question... How is it possible that you weren't sure?
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@Maksie0 Cope harder! LOL Your narratives are baseless, incoherent nonsense.
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@Maksie0 You lost-- Move on
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He's still a male even if he continues using that prefix. That fact isn't going to change
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There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born females. Now you know
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Both are people presenting as something they're not
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@garrettr3644 It's the only fundamental truth that matters. Why someone is portraying themself as something they're not, isn't all that relevant, in reality
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@garrettr3644 There's no such thing as trans. There are males and females... That's it. A woman isn't a costume that men can simply put on. Women aren't a social construct. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those men weren't. Now you know
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Yes, those doing drag know they're not that sex which they portray. The difference w/ trans women is, theirs is a delusion and isn't based in reality, making it a lie. They're imposters
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@conor.3875 False ID's aren't valid anywhere. If your identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality and participate in your cosplay and LARPing-- that identity is not valid at all
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@Maksie0 Yet, here you are arguing. Not too bright on your part. shocker
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The teaching of 'basic' sex ed biology at an appropriate age, isn't what people are protesting.
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@sylviaiwnbaw Because, according to your assessment-- lesbians are predators?? Make it make sense
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Cope Harder. Just remember, when you think things are against you-- it's probably You, and the world doesn't owe you acceptance. If You want to integrate into society-- then remember that it's YOU, who needs to adapt. To insist that society must play along with your counter-culture position-- makes you seem arrogant, narcissistic, self-entitled and ridiculous. You're not the center of the universe and the world isn't going to reorganize itself to accommodate your subjective feelings, contrary to objective reality. You need to develop better coping mechanisms to deal with adversity, because not everyone is going to like you, or be accommodating.
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Quit conflating personality traits and temperament with gender and gender roles as though they're synonymous... They Aren't There's only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female. A male wishing he was a female, doesn't become female-- regardless of the extent to which he attempts to alter his appearance and convince others that he's female. A dude in a dress is still a dude, even if he believes that he's not. Now you know better
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@chernobylkid3273 If/when I don't, my comments get deleted
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There are males and females. That's it... Now you know. A woman isn't a costume that men can put on, and she isn't a social construct. Update your understanding to comprehend the fact that personality and gender aren't synonymous
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They conflate gender with personality, and gender roles
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Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@markusbaker1161 Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. If men aren't suffering from gender dysphoria and they dress like, and present as women, they're just engaging in cosplay. Coincidentally, if they do suffer w/ gender dysphoria, their dissociative delusions don't transform them into women, either Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 transgender and the word "women" are not synonymous
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@markusbaker1161 I didn't say they were, either
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@markusbaker1161 ✌
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Yes-- men with issues, pretending to be women without issues-- telling women about being women. That anyone would ever give this incoherent, cult-ideology any credibility, is amazing
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@aaralyn6710 Yes, you can. Quit conflating personality with gender and gender roles. They are not synonymous Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and relates to the social aspects of being male or female, respectively.
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He's trying to make stoopid the new smart
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There is only 1 kind of woman, and you're ALL born female-- making the intentional use of 'cis' nonsensical, and a slur
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@aaralyn6710 Intersex is a genetic physical disorder. Gender dysphoria is a psych issue. Cis is a term used in chemistry, to reference the placement of molecules in reference to one another and has nothing to do with gender.
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@Maksie0 There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the use of cis entirely irrelevant and useless
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@markusbaker1161 Not much of a refutation. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally because of a psych disorder or for attention, or Both. That you can't wrap your head around that is a YOU problem. Just Cope Harder
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@Maksie0 That's the sound of women rejecting your ins@nity. You better get used to it
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@ElanaVital83 *He
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@ElanaVital83 Using 'she' when referring to a male is grammatically incorrect and is intentionally misgendering him
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Gender and Personality... Learn to articulate the differences
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@markusbaker1161 No, you're obsessed with how others perceive men in drag
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@markusbaker1161 You already know how I perceive men in drag... As men. What's your excuse for the confusion?
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@markusbaker1161 Well, that's weak, BUT-- You're aware of what I've written and you've still not proven anything I've written is incorrect, and you haven't proven that men can become women or vice versa. Your narrative's claims are bogus
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@markusbaker1161 Science has already proven that the binary dichotomy of all mammals is male and female, and that status is fixed and permanent.
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@markusbaker1161 Nonsense. Genentic anomalies are the exceptions which prove the rule
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@markusbaker1161 Your approval isn't required and your understanding is questionable at best. I recognize the difference between males and females, and reject your cult narrative and terminology. You care what I think. That's why you're continually commenting to me
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@markusbaker1161 Your is the fringe narrative. Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct. She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals specifically humans. Now you know
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@mr.mclibtard5015 That fool is another trans-activist troll, here in the comments. You'll see. They act like they're as deep as the ocean, but they're not even as deep as a baby spoon
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@markusbaker1161 It was for decades, until about 5 seconds ago-- when activist hacks re-categorized gender dysphoria-- and it clearly is a psych issue, not a physical one
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@markusbaker1161 It's a psych disorder, not a physical one. You fail to persuade otherwise. You aren't able to prove that men can become women. That renders your entire pov and narratives bogus. Your acceptance and approval isn't required. Mine is. You want and need preferred pronouns to be used-- Then YOU need to make a better more persuasive case or the answer is, NO. It's really as simple as that
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@markusbaker1161 How do you feel like another gender, when you've never been that gender. Make it make sense
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@markusbaker1161 It's incoherent nonsense that doesn't make sense. It's foolishness that you adhere to. Because you can't make sense of it, you're proving my point that it's nonsensical idi0cy
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@markusbaker1161 I'm just not deceived as you are, into believing they're something other than confused men presenting as women.
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Restrooms are based on genitalia, not subjective feelings
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@Rubed0_o There's a prerequisite to being a woman, and that is being born female-- making the 'Cis' distinction irrelevant and less than useless.
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@Maksie0 Making her way more reputable than you
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@mariec3733 You seem to be speaking just to incite negative attention.
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Nearly 1/2 of them have terminated their own existence, and a portion who haven't are de-transitioning-- They don't EVER talk about that
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No, they inappropriately and incorrectly conflate personality traits and temperament neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys, with gender as if they're synonymous and they aren't. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Them, they conflate gender with s3xu@l preference. Then, they conflate males with females, men with women, science with science-fiction and pseudo science, and finally reality with fantasy. Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent madness. There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the cis prefix totally irrelevant and useless.
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@conor.3875 By their own statements saying trans women are women. Women (ALL of them) are born female. Now you know
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@conor.3875 That has never been true, evidence by ancient manuscripts writing about men and women and their roles in the family
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@Akira-lh9gf How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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Me too... How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition, and are then considered "rational"?
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@theyluvnat :face-blue-smiling: If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Once a dude, always a dude
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@markusbaker1161 Aww-- Do you need a cry closet or a comfort pet? If they start their own league, you should go for cheerleader tryouts
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 @markusbaker1161 Well, perhaps you can be their spokes-'person'. I don't really GAF. My concern about the ethics of affirmation care, as the results are HORRIBLE-- is sincere
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@markusbaker1161 I already did. You're Dismissed
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@markusbaker1161 Believe what you will. Be careful of when it works out such that what you believe turns out to not be so
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@markusbaker1161 Like I told you before-- and now again for the benefit of the OP to consider: I have NO problem realizing that there are people who have identity issues. I wish them well in their endeavors to deal with those issues; however-- recognizing that they are not that which they present themselves as, just makes me observant-- Not hateful I haven't been able to make sense of those who advocate affirmation care as a default protocol. The sad fact about the people who suffer with gender dysphoria, and those who inappropriately put themselves under the same umbrella-- who do not suffer with it, yet cosplay as though they do, have other underlying traumatic issues in play-- in addition and the su***de (both prior to and post surgery) is so much higher than the norm, and post surgery-- the numbers I've seen are astronomically high as well, showing unremarkable movement-- SO that being said, I just don't see how it's possible to see those rates and believe it's effective. Can you make it make sense? I can't
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@mariec3733 Transitioning from one sex to the other isn't possible either. All that's possible is to alter their appearance. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@mariec3733 Then stay tf out of women's private spaces
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@jamesbrandon8570 💯% Correct
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Personality traits and temperament are not the same thing as sex/gender. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Too many are conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not. The prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. They conflate personality with gender. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they confuse men for women, and vice versa.
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@54kitten Still males pretending to be females, and their costumes and makeup didn't make those people women back then either
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@54kitten Just putting things in perspective for you, but things nowadays aren't the same as they were back then. We need to bring back asylums for these head cases
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@54kitten I was born in the 60's dear. I know 1st hand how it was, compared to today. They also eliminated critical thinking and problem solving in the participation trophy generation's school curriculum
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@54kitten You seem triggered. Try to focus
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@54kitten None of that is anything but white noise. The point is this is TOTAL Intellectual bankruptcy. There are males and females, and there are minority segments of each which present with birth defects and various mental illnesses/psych disorders. They aren't "trans" ANYTHING. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance and chemistry, as they are after. The stats of self termination, even after altering their appearance, being what they are-- shows that the current strategy to "help" by using affirmation therapy don't seem to be effective or efficient at all
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@54kitten You changed your name. How cute... Be Gone
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@54kitten It shows as @54kitten on my browser that's not logged in. Are you a phone scammer too?
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@54kitten You've refuted nothing whatsoever, yet here you are... arguing about minutia. I recommend attempting to be relevant, in the future
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@54kitten I thought it obvious the tongue n cheek/snarky nature of that comment was obvious, but apparently not, as it has apparently got you unable to focus on the relevant portion of my comment-- Still. What's that about? Care to give it a shot?
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What a load of 💩 As it turns out-- the prerequisite to being a woman is actually being born female-- and those dudes aren't ever going to be that. Trans women, cross dressers, and drag queens all have one thing in common-- They're ALL Men
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Those men are imposters, impersonating women. Still Men
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@markusbaker1161 You're confused Blossom. You're in no position to give advice
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@markusbaker1161 who are you talking to, Blossom?
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@markusbaker1161 You Blossom
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@markusbaker1161 Don't need your help. You've established nothing and have refuted even less. Makes your participation less than useless
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@markusbaker1161 You seem to have a vested interest in suggesting that men, when presenting as women, regardless of whether or not they suffer with gender dysphoria-- should be granted access to women's spaces and that women should be okay with that. That's interesting
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@markusbaker1161 I said what I intended. We can agree to disagree, but you've put forth no reason why men, when presenting as women, regardless of whether or not they suffer with gender dysphoria-- should be granted access to women's spaces and that women should be okay with that.
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@markusbaker1161 Your inability to grasp the content is a YOU problem. I don't feel compelled to convince myself that the truth is false and that a lie is true. The claim made by the trans-activist narrative is that trans-women are women. The burden of proof isn't with me. Your ever present anti-woman, anti-social, 'Look at me' arguments, and comments stating that you don't care about opinions that aren't rooted in confirmation bias-- while pressing for answers make you look like you're just as -- T r i g g e r e d, as you did on the debate panel when you lost BIG. Beat it, Blossom-- Don't be a woman hater
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90% end up desisting and end up being gay
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* His own voice. That dude is unhinged from reality
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@mariec3733 Seeing the results of DNA and chromosomes forming males and/or females doesn't require an electron microscope to decipher the differences.
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Just to add some precision, infant baby girls have 2 X chromosomes, but they're not women. A woman is an adult, human, female
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@aaralyn6710 Of course you can. A woman is an adult, human, female. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. Now you know
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Not as many as those who've lied, I suspect. I suppose, if it's got nothing to do with biology, attempting to alter their appearance of their biology is extraordinarily odd
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@claptrap1924 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects or being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. You appear to be inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@maincharacter9759 Nope. He's the same sex/gender prior to altering his appearance, as he is after
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That dude has major psych issues
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They are dudes who typically choose to portray a stereotypical caricature of the opposite sex ie. women... Still just dudes in a dress
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@deedee2730 Looks like it's time to re-write history huh? You've officially declared an end to r@cism and sexu@l discriminati0n. Woo Hoo
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@sylviaiwnbaw Dudes.
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Yes, a biological disorder. The exceptions to the rule don't invalidate the rule, they prove the rule by being the exceptions
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That's how ALL the trans-activist cult, agent provocateurs behave. They're narcissists
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@yelljal2764 Those are women
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@yelljal2764 Not if they've had bottom surgery they can't. If they haven't they can
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Make no mistake... The same people (the vast minority) who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it.
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@Maksie0 ALL women are born female, there are no exceptions
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TOO Many seem confused about science, logic, reason and the fact that there are no trans humans. There are only males and females-- That's it. Women aren't a 'Feeling' or a social construct. They're adult, human, females and as it turns out the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. Now you know. Now, Go seethe and cope-- then, in the future, be relevant for a change
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@Maksie0 Why wouldn't you see the vast majority, who have established and chosen to continue the traditions of their society, as the norm???
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@saikohart3058 Respect is earned, and it's reserved for that which is actually respectable. Embracing objective reality is to discern fact from fiction. There's only 1 kind of woman,and they're all born female. Now you know
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@GlockSling There are no trans humans. There are males and females. That's it... Now you know. A woman isn't a costume that men can put on, and she isn't a social construct. Update your understanding to comprehend the fact that personality and gender aren't synonymous, and that fact and fiction aren't interchangeable either.
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@GlockSling You're arguing for the sake or argument. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total lack of any actual virtue in any of your unhinged whinging. Bottom line: Men cannot become women, and if you think they can-- you're unhinged from reality
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@lamari_posa Trans women are MEN with issues, pretending that they're women without issues, while displacing women in sports and with student loan grants, scholarships, etc. I don't find anything respectable about that
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@thatextrovertartist5474 It is the trans-activists like you, who's insistence that others-- who are already minding their own business, participate in your LARP and cosplay, by insisting on the grammatically incorrect use of pronouns, and with no regard for the displacement of women's privacy, which is at the root of how you brought your business to everyone in public, making it their business. Irony or idiocy? Quit your whining. You look and sound ridiculous
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@lamari_posa The majority reject the trans ideological narratives. Cope Harder... You aren't fooling anyone but yourselves
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It's not like a lobotomy could hurt. We need to bring back asylums
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@rosebud1559 Nearly all of them are now shuttered and closed. The number of people admitted to psychiatric hospitals and other residential facilities in America declined from 471,000 in 1970 to 170,000 in 2014, according to the National Association of State Mental Health Program Directors. The numbers of mentally ill roaming the streets is the result
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@rosebud1559 They're clearly not setup to contend with the sort of numbers of mentally ill on the streets now. If they could've done that, there would've been ZERO issues re: c19 bed space availability
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@rosebud1559 Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@rosebud1559 And there are a lot of other mentally ill people to contend with, besides those with gender dysphoria
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@markusbaker1161 Calling those men something else, doesn't make them something else. They're still men, regardless of their attire.
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@markusbaker1161 Calling them something else doesn't alter reality. They're men
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@markusbaker1161 Repeating yourself, doesn't make you any less wrong. Their gender is exactly the same-- even if you use a different name-- they're still men
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@Maksie0 Were you trying to prove their point to be accurate and true??
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Why would someone be proud of having a dissociative disorder?
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@markusbaker1161 Maybe, maybe not. If it's just some dude in cosplay, then it's just a dude with a quirky fashion sense. If it's someone who has issues with their identity in conflict with their biology-- then that by definition is a dissociative disorder
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@markusbaker1161 No, I maintain that it is. I know that not all guys who dress like girls suffer with gender dysphoria, some are just weirdos
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@markusbaker1161 Back at you
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@markusbaker1161 The difference is that I'm correct, and you are not-- and you have not cited anything proving otherwise
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@markusbaker1161 You're not qualified to say, and you've presented nothing which proves me incorrect
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@markusbaker1161 Quite an imagination you have... I'm not diagnosing any particular specific case. You've still not cited anything that proves me incorrect
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@markusbaker1161 You're triggered. If you want to pretend that a guy in a dress is a girl-- go ahead. As for me, I'm more discerning and am unwilling to participate in the cosplay
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@markusbaker1161 Considering that you've not written anything that changes the fact that trans-women are merely men by another name, your arguments are irrelevant
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@markusbaker1161 trans-women are men. Your arguments are irrelevant
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@markusbaker1161 No they aren't, and you've failed to prove otherwise
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@markusbaker1161 No, they aren't. A woman is defined as an adult, human, female. If you need further explanation and clarification of what that means, I highly recommend you visit a medical university biology department
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@markusbaker1161 You're wrong, but that's ok... you can blame your ignorance
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@markusbaker1161 You've already proven it to my satisfaction. Trans women, cross dressers and drag queens are men. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 You are not able to cite any evidence that shows trans women are not biological men.
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@markusbaker1161 Valid?? They're valid people. Those who you're referring to as trans women-- are men. The reasons why they present as 'other than' men don't change that fact
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@markusbaker1161 You can call them whatever you want-- they're still men... that doesn't change with a name change
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@markusbaker1161 Me too. They're men, regardless of whether they're cross dressers, drag queens, guys with a quirky fashion sense or considered by you or others as trans women. Still men
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@markusbaker1161 That over-used term doesn't conjure the sort of impact you hoped it would, when contrasted against your Islamophobia
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@markusbaker1161 The shoe does not fit, according to the definition you provided. Observing the fact that they're men doesn't indicate one way or the other how I feel about it. You're projecting again
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@markusbaker1161 No it doesn't. You have established that you have comprehension challenges when it comes to definitions. ex. The definition of gender: Gender refers to the sex assigned/observed at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. The social aspects of being male or female are socially constructed, and they're well-established since the dawn of time. That you wish to close your eyes to the facts, or protest about them-- change nothing.
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@markusbaker1161 Disagree
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@markusbaker1161 I'm definitely correct. Your confusion doesn't change that. You've shown that you're either intellectually impaired and/or confused about the facts and the truth that trans women are men. You not knowing what to make of that, doesn't make your analysis or conclusions correct, and it definitely doesn't prove me incorrect.
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@markusbaker1161 Your opinion is noted, has been given due consideration, and has been dismissed as less than useless
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@markusbaker1161 Facts don't care about your feelings either. You're a misogynist, and it shows
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@markusbaker1161 You're wrong, and your ideas are insane
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@jessiedotson8101 Personally, I think it's illogical to expect rational communication or thought from the mentally unhinged
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Translation = ReeeEEEeeeEEEee
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@alexanderwarren221 We already have male and female bathrooms. Those whom you seek to accommodate are only male or female, respectively and they're not trans-- anything. Still male or female, respectively-- as they were prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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The stats showing the self-termination rate of those who've altered their appearance, remaining nearly 10x's higher than the average, shows that they're not "happy" or well-adjusted individuals by any standard metric.
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@Domino454545 Their imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. Those who are in a dissociative state, don't dictate what is acceptable or normal to those who aren't suffering with those sorts of psych issues If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@Domino454545 Says the pro-choice crowd. Show me someone who values life and insists on the ability to terminate life, and I'll show you a hypocrite. Expecting the world to perceive you as you perceive yourself, and ignore objective reality to affirm one's subjective feelings with indifference to the facts is unreasonable at best, and totally narcissistic-- and isn't worthy of respect-- as I see it.
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They say gender identity and sex are separate, but haven't been able to justify encroaching on spaces designated segregated based on sex, as an entitlement. Not even close They also haven't come close yet, to being able to justify the expectation that just because they present and identify in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must treat them as though they're the opposite sex. It's absurd
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That unhinged dude is an activist, agent provocateur
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@Maksie0 No, they want to be called trans women, so they can pretend they're not men.
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A couch is non-binary. People are not
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@markusbaker1161 Uh huh... 🙄
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@markusbaker1161 Facts are awesome and stubborn things, like the fact that the condition of being male (XY) is fixed and permanent. People like Blossom are merely caricatures of what they wish they were, and can never be-- Women
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@AVIANAESMERALDASZISTENNO I stand corrected. Thank you. There's no one that I'm aware of that has a problem with someone who chooses celibacy or isn't interested in sex. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. No? Thoughts?
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@markusbaker1161 Altering one's structure and a wardrobe doesn't change one's sex/gender. That's a fact
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@markusbaker1161 I recognize that they are not that which they claim to be or present themselves as, like it or not. The fact is that the social norms are actually established currently, and a dude in a dress LARPing and engaging in cosplay are clearly not it, and even if they were-- it's still a dude in a dress not trans anything. They're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after. These dudes like Blossom are the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not.
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@markusbaker1161 Ahh... My stalker. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the absence of any actual virtue in any of your interactions. You've been exposed as nothing more than an agitator.
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is the construct. Deal with it and cope harder
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@markusbaker1161 Well, that's not much of a refutation. Do Better
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is the REAL construct. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. That you can't wrap your head around that is a You problem. Just Cope Harder
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Emotionally, intellectually and spiritually stunted behavior is to be expected from those sorts
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@Maksie0 How do you know? Do you know all of them? Why are you presuming their subjective gender identity?
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@markusbaker1161 So?
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@markusbaker1161 Not one that makes men women. Try to be relevant
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@markusbaker1161 Again-- still men, not women
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@markusbaker1161 Not opinion, fact. Still males. That category is fixed and permanent. Sorry to burst your bubble
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@markusbaker1161 Don't care. Changing the name of something doesn't change what the thing is. Male and female are permanent states of being
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@markusbaker1161 You've not persuaded me to accept your definition of gender, so we will have to agree to disagree. The definition of gender that I have always used, refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively.
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@markusbaker1161 Don't care. I reject your opinions, analysis and conclusions as nonsense, and your because someone else said so standard is rejected as well. I'm turning off my notifications for this video. You're going to have to find someone else to play the part of the fool with.
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@markusbaker1161 How are they-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? Why should those men, who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria be granted access to women's private spaces? You got nuthin Blossom
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@markusbaker1161 Just know that in the future, when you insist on your preferred pronouns idiocy, the response will be "I don't care", and it'll be delivered with a smile. I've already exposed the idiocy of your narrative's claims that trans women are women to be ridiculous I know you haven't answered with integrity or honesty, and I don't presume that you will. Kick Rocks Blossom
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Not uncommon among intellectual midgets.
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Well, you sure showed her up. 🤡
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Why? What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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Sex and gender are not disconnected. Gender and gender roles aren't synonymous with personality traits and temperament.
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A woman is an adult, human, female.
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@BenDover-gc6qe That dude is unhinged from reality
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@Roxana Blacksea Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@Roxana Blacksea It's XX, XY, Birth Defect, Psych Disorder. That's it! Like I said, If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. You've failed to refute that, and the 'because you said so' standard has been issued zero credibility, as you've failed to persuade. You seem to inappropriately be conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament-- (neither of which are gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboy) with gender. I mean, you can identify as a Klingon for all I care, but that doesn't make it so; So-- how are they, who think it does Not delusional and detached from reality evidenced by their clearly dissociative state???
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@allie4492 You look triggered. Try decaf
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@allie4492 You look triggered. Try decaf
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@alicerose6640 I wasn't directing that at you Kym. ;)
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@allie4492 Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue are people who don't live in reality about there being two genders. Cope harder
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It's really not up to him. They need our validation-- Not the other way around
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@Maksie0 There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are
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@_trevorbutler_ Quit conflating gender-- there are 2 (Male/female), with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, and None are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys), and gender roles-- as though they're synonymous. They Aren't. Gender refers to the sex observed and documented at birth, and also refers to the social aspects (Gender Roles-- which vary from country to country, society to society, and culture to culture. They are long established, and steeped in tradition-- BUT, they all relate to males and females) of being male or female, respectively.
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Being trans is the construct. Cope harder
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The thing is, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@clumsy_zebra_97 Newsflash: Your subjective identity doesn't impact your biology at all, and so-- those men have no business in women's spaces designed and implemented based on biology, NOT subjective identities.
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@Hihihihi716 There is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born females, making the use of cis less than useless and an intentional slur
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@becky14 The prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female and he is not that. Are you able to cite any evidence that shows trans women are not biological men? I see them as synonymous
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@markusbaker1161 I know you do. Apparently, you've never successfully won anything but a participation trophy. It may explain why you're so desperate and lonely
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@markusbaker1161 No doubt
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@becky14 Gender is not a social construct. The roles associated with gender are the social constructs, such as trans gender
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@markusbaker1161 The definition of gender: Gender refers to the sex assigned/observed at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. The social aspects of being male or female are socially constructed, and they're well-established since the dawn of time. That you wish to close your eyes to the facts change nothing.
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They're not trans anything. They're confused men
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@lokalemadderfakker_nl Don't pretend that term is necessary for actual scientists. The people using it are ridiculous and are certainly not scientists. Why would someone who believes they're a woman wish to have the distinction drawn? That's Odd
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@sprklejumpropedoll It's redundant in normal parlance, when discussing biological women. Let's not pretend we're talking to scientists here. The trans people are the only ones who wish to make an unnecessary and thoroughly redundant distinction, to identify biological women-- who don't need the distinction made about them.
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Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@lokalemadderfakker_nl Are you aware that your comments are being shadow banned/deleted. Try logging out, and revisit while logged out and see. They're the same sex/gender as they were prior to surgery and hormones. Still male or female, respectively. All they're doing is altering their appearance. Getting a nose job alters one's appearance too, and it doesn't affect your sex or gender either
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@lokalemadderfakker_nl Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@zesty6070 How so? Women, simply put-- are women. It's men, who want others to see them as women, who get triggered when we see through their disguises and call them out for it
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@Maksie0 You're such an activist hack
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Gender (There are 2 male/female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Personality traits and temperament are not synonymous with gender, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys-- Yet, so many conflate gender w/ personality. Women and men aren't social constructs, or a mere costume that can be put on or taken off
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That dude's shoe size dwarfs his IQ
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@conor.3875 That they can become women
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@ItsSchwifty That isn't a refutation. You want me to change my view, and accept your pov as true and correct-- Then, you need to be at lot more persuasive than you have been so far.
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They inappropriately conflate personality traits and temperament, as though they're synonymous with gender, and they're Not
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@Maksie0 Your narratives aren't based in reality in any way. Men can't become women. Cope harder
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They're not trans anything, just because they altered their appearance. Still the same sex/gender prior to altering their look, as they are after
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@wren7818 Developmental sex disorders aren't evidence of another sex invalidating the binary of all mammalian species. Gender is not disconnected from biology. They're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There are people and they are males and females and there are segments of both which present with various birth defects, psych disorders, and some with both-- none of which are evidence of other genders invalidating the binary. It's XX (Female), XY (Male), and a variety of Birth defects/disorders within segments of each ... neither of which display sex organs other than that found in the binary. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@AutisticKittyStar Who are you trying to convince? Get Real!!! Kids don't belong at pride parades and hyper-s3xualized adult burlesque entertainment events.
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It's the fact that they aren't that which they claim to be-- for me.
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@Maksie0 HAHAHAHHA That's wrong... Women don't need to 'trans'-- to be what they are. "Trans women" are men who are LARPing
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That sound you're hearing is the sound of women and men rejecting the trans ideological cult narrative, and terminology and calling it out for what it is-- bull 💩
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I recognize dudes as dudes, regardless of their quirky cosplay and LARPing-- presenting themselves as flamboyant, stereotypes and caricatures of women. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female
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@markusbaker1161 It was in Finland, silly
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@Sipu97 See what I mean? He's a troll and a stalker
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@markusbaker1161 No, they based off your narratives claims that trans women are women
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@markusbaker1161 Just know that in the future, when you insist on your preferred pronouns idiocy, the response will be "I don't care", and it'll be delivered with a smile, and a sturdy you're dismissed. I've already exposed the idiocy of your narrative's claims that trans women are women to be ridiculous I know you haven't answered with integrity or honesty, and I don't presume that you will. Kick Rocks Blossom
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@markusbaker1161 You seem to have a vested interest in suggesting that men, when presenting as women, regardless of whether or not they suffer with gender dysphoria-- should be granted access to women's spaces, and that women should be okay with that. Very Odd
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, it's odd
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@markusbaker1161 You lose! :text-green-game-over:
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@leebodeebo All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, preference, or costume making the cult terminology as you apply it w/ cis/trans intellectually hollow and irrelevant.
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@DefiledDame A psych disorder doesn't change objective reality
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@mariec3733 People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and prior. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules, it has nothing to do with gender.
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@cqllel5186 "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance."-- T. Sowell
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Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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It wouldn't matter because the pro trans narrative is incoherent madness
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@MegaVega2007 Based on being male or female, respectively. You're conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous and they are not.
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@ECHO14572 Cis/Trans are used in chemistry to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules, and it has NOTHING to do with gender
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@oomphdooph No, Cis/Trans are used in chemistry to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules, and it has NOTHING to do with gender
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@elsesullivan3376 That is patently false. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female, and those dudes-- were Not, and are not women
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@TheGuiltsOfUs That's wrong... There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Those dudes on the panel were not and will never be any kind of woman. Now you know better
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The thing is, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@Maksie0 People are individuals. This madness is you throwing yourselves under the bus
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@markusbaker1161 You wouldn't know... You admitted to not reading my replies.
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@markusbaker1161 Respect is a 2-way street, and you've proven you are not willing to show Any-- So none should be expected to be shown to you-- in return. Your approval isn't required
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@markusbaker1161 You never earned it. You and I disagree. The relevant difference is, I've articulated why I disagree, and you have not articulated why you dismiss the reasoning of the medical experts-- opposing those in whom, you put your faith. No worries. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, and you certainly aren't persuading me, that your belief is founded in anything other than blind faith and the willingness to ignore inconvenient truths-- which expose the problems with the shallow arguments, and hollow slogans you've been using-- while making a a spectacle of yourself.
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@markusbaker1161 I know! You set out to argue for sport, free from a coherent argument and intentionally engaging without integrity factoring into the equation. I appreciate you arguments providing me opportunity to sharpen my arguments counter to yours, and to see more clearly the disconnect of the trans narrative from reality. I was instead, hoping for an actual conversation with some honest dialogue-- but I try to make the best of things, there was none to be found here.
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@Maksie0 You sure seem to delight in your foolishness
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@Maksie0 Evidence?
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@Marie-CharlotteT Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1.) Your body and brain develop & grow together -> You simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2.) Hating a part of you body so much, that you cut it off, is a mental illness.
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@mariebrassart9868 It in fact-- isn't. A woman isn't a costume that men can simply put on. Women aren't a social construct. They're wrong on gender. They're inappropriately conflating gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender with gender roles. Then, they conflate males with females As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those men weren't. Now you know
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@aLittleAtomBomb I get it. The point still applies. Tell me, why should a male, be granted access to female's private spaces like dressing rooms, locker rooms, sports teams, restrooms and prisons?
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@aLittleAtomBomb Why do you assume that is my assumption? Can't you answer the question?
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@kbmain :virtualhug:🥰🙏
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IS there a common ground between those who live in reality vs those who buy into this ideology, based in subjective fantasy? I don't think so
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No, it's more like subscribing to a sexist, s3x stereotype
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@Maksie0 Is that the sort of response you should expect, when questioned about your preferred pronouns? Just curious
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@Maksie0 Naturally-- That's why they're offing themselves in record numbers
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Your point being, no doubt-- that if disguised as a woman it would more difficult to go unnoticed in a woman's bathroom?? Gaslight harder
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@bookswithrowanundertherowa3348 Since leftists are supposed to be against r@pe, why do you suppose they continue to advocate for their early release and then release them again and again?
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@conor.3875 No, it's the name of the condition which causes the delusion
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 @markusbaker1161 Your attention seeking is pathetic
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@markusbaker1161 There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women, illustrating that your narrative is a totally bogus faith-based belief with zero evidence to support your claim that trans women are women. Checkmate / You lost
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@markusbaker1161 That's you all form, No substance. Be Gone
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@markusbaker1161 The fringe ideas are coming from your side of the isle dear. You are the vast vast minority arguing against objective reality. Men cannot become women and vice versa. There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women or vice versa-- and until there is your narrative is bogus
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@markusbaker1161 There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women or vice versa-- and until there is, your narrative is bogus.
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There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the cis prefix entirely irrelevant. Now you know
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@jellirabauke2565 There is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female, making the usage of the 'Cis' prefix entirely useless and irrelevant
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@NightRose666 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the use of cis totally irrelevant and useless.
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@aaralyn6710 Evidence??
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@Maksie0 If it were correct, they wouldn't be self-terminating their stay on earth prematurely in rates significantly higher than, others
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@Maksie0 You 1st
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That sound you're hearing is the sound of women and men rejecting your ideological trans, cult narrative, and terminology and calling it out for what it is-- bull 💩. Don't believe me? Ask Budweiser
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@Ipernova 100 up votes
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@stonedimmaculate2942 There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Transphobe, is a cult term used to pretend that there is another gender other than male/female--But there isn't. Don't conflate gender, gender roles and personality as though they're synonymous. They aren't
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@Maksie0 That's the sound of reality pointing out and rejecting your imaginary bull 💩
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Because society is based in reality, and it's not subject to reorganize itself for the subjective wishes of those who are counter-culture to the very society that they dwell in
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@Maksie0 Trans is the fringe-- women aren't the opposite of trans, they're the standard which trans women are trying to emulate-- making the cis distinction entirely irrelevant and redundant
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@mariec3733 Look at you... You seem intent on provoking, to incite negative attention. Get some therapy
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Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@markusbaker1161 No hate involved in being observant. That's not much of a refutation. Perhaps if they start their own sports leagues-- you can go out for the cheer leading squad of your favorite team
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@markusbaker1161 XY, Not women and not trans anything. Feel free to stew about it. It changes nothing
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@markusbaker1161 Believe what you will, your analytical capacity has been proven to be overloaded-- and is dismissed as nonsense-- and your failure to comprehend that changes nothing
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@markusbaker1161 Your failure to comprehend invalidates nothing. Their gender appropriation in the form of a caricature, is fooling no one w/ a functional prefrontal cortex. They're the same as they ever were-- dudes w/ psych issues and physical mutilation to prove it
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He's an agent provocateur, aka-- a useless idi0t used to push this incoherent ideological narrative's agenda
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@jupiterfox7683 That isn't much of a rebuttal.
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@jupiterfox7683 If? Because it's a mental dis0rder, affirming a delusion as n0rm@l isn't helpful to the afflicted
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@Maksie0 No, they don't have a problem deciphering the differences between males and females like you do
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@mariec3733 Get back on your meds boy
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@mariec3733 !
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They're narcissistic men, practicing their misogyny while presenting themselves as women
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@markusbaker1161 They can't become women. It's just not possible. They can pretend and so can you-- but it doesn't make it so
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@markusbaker1161 Totally false
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@markusbaker1161 False information you're peddling. The law defines a woman as an adult, human, female. Science proves the differences between the sexes, and medicine hasn't made it possible for men to become women; it's only made it possible to alter one's appearance. Your cult is rejected
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There's nothing phobic about recognizing that you are not that which you claim to be-- it merely establishes that the observer is observant
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@FujishimaAkiko Just adding context to the conversation. It's the LGBTQ+LMNOP community which are highlighting their sex lives to the world, with their own labels, and I agree-- That obsession is weird
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If that's confusing to you, perhaps this topic is too far over your head
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@hannavanderwat5689 It's self explanatory. What do you think transition surgery is?
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@hannavanderwat5689 Quit conflating personality and sex/gender. They're not synonymous. Gender-- There are 2 male and female. That's it
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@hannavanderwat5689 Google is your friend
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@hannavanderwat5689 There are various surgeries from facial feminization to breast implants, to mastectomies, to full bottom surgery-- NONE of which transform a male to a female or a female to a male
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@hannavanderwat5689 Like I said, If that's confusing to you, perhaps this topic is too far over your head
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@hannavanderwat5689 There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born females. Now, you know. The failure to comprehend that is at the root of much confusion. Cope and seethe harder if you like, but it doesn't change the fact that those dudes aren't women of any kind
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How many kids have you raised to become happy, healthy, well-adjusted and productive members of society?
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@Maksie0 Not according the facts, which show that they self-terminate in rates significantly higher than the average even after altering their appearance.
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The entire ideological narrative is ins@ne
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@r.oluloly8415 Name a study anywhere that proves trans women are not actually men.
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@markusbaker1161 That's why it asinine. They're still men
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@markusbaker1161 Cite a medical study ANYWHERE, that proves trans-women aren't males. You can't, but you can pretend otherwise, but it changes nothing
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@aaralyn6710 Yes,you can. There's no such thing as trans women. That's just another word you use to describe confused men, who cosplay and LARP portraying the stereotype of a caricature of a female. There are only males and females, which is why using the cis prefix is entirely nonsensical. Now you know
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The problem is their insistence that we play along with their cosplay and LARPing, as it was based in reality, and it isn't
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🤡🌎
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That dude is unhinged from reality.
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Not surprising that people who suffer severe anxiety, when faced with having to select the appropriate restrooms are clearly confused/troubled in a much more profound way than the average person
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Impregnating female inmates seems like it could be viewed as a problem
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Yes, they were the reason for Noah's flood. The nephilim had corrupted all flesh, but for Noah's-- who was perfect in his generations
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@theneutralguy2317 Read Genesis 6:4-6
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@markusbaker1161 Unlike you, I'm well educated and well-read on a wide variety of topics that might surprise you. I can discuss Taoism, Buddhism, Islam, and Druids too. lol What now???
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There would be even less viewership than the WNBA
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@urmomspussyhair XX, (Female), XY (Male). 2 sex/genders That's it... There are people. They are male or female, respectively. Segments of each present with various physical and psych disorders-- none of which invalidate the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid.
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Because it's not society's obligation to cater to the delusions of the vast minority. It's for those people to adapt to reality
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If men aren't suffering from gender dysphoria and they dress like, and present as women, they're just engaging in cosplay. Coincidentally, if they do suffer w/ gender dysphoria, their dissociative delusions don't transform them into women, either
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@Maksie0 No, I'm observant and discern reality from the subjective imaginations, identity or fantasy's of those obsessed with promoting an agenda. You're irrelevant
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@penny6688 Just stop!! They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after
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@molls127 Speaking of biology-- male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Just some contextual nuance
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@markusbaker1161 Google is your friend
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not distracted from the point that there are no studies anywhere proving that a trans-woman is not a biological male, and that those biological males have no business in women's private spaces. If you want to pretend otherwise, feel free
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@markusbaker1161 And? Why would they?
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@markusbaker1161 I don't think it's ok to devalue women's rights, but you do you
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@markusbaker1161 I wasn't quoting you. It is a summary of your endorsement that trans-women should be allowed in women's private spaces, under the guise that there are laws in place here and there which legalize it.
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@markusbaker1161 Knowing that my comments trigger you, because I'm not fooled into believing men are women due to a disguise, or altered terminology-- is just a wonderful source of entertainment. There are no studies anywhere proving that a trans-woman is not a biological male. If you want to pretend otherwise, feel free. If you want to maintain that something is justified because it's a law somewhere like in the middle east regarding gays and women-- then that's you
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@markusbaker1161 You've shown no evidence that men can become women, and you have given no reason why the men you call trans should be treated as though they're women
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@markusbaker1161 Evidence that trans-women are adult human females doesn't exist anywhere. Cite a study anywhere proving trans-women are not biological men. 🦗🦗🦗
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@markusbaker1161 No, you said it's already proven that they're women. Cite a study anywhere proving trans-women are not biological men
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@kebinyo I keep asking for a citation of any study anywhere which has proven that trans-women are not men-- to justify those men being granted access to women's private spaces, and zip, nada, nothing... So the resident troll is triggered
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@markusbaker1161 You're now claiming that 'trans-woman' aren't justified being granted access to women's private spaces BECAUSE there's no proof, evidence or valid medical studies showing that they aren't men?
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@markusbaker1161 They're men w/ psych issues-- that's a given. There appears to be a prerequisite to being considered a trans-woman, and that's being male. There is no science which shows that trans-women aren't males. The fact that people want to pretend otherwise doesn't change objective reality.
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@markusbaker1161 Cite the source of the "science" you keep referring to that proves trans-women are not males.
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Regarding what?
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@rocketknoxler6516 Maced and tazed the hairy dude in a dress screaming, "It's Ma'am? LOL
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@MajesticAngel-rq8uk Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are inappropriately confusing and conflating gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous and they are not, while simultaneously insisting that biological sex and gender are disconnected-- while failing to realize that a subjective identity doesn't alter anyone's biological reality. Lost souls
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The incoherent arguments made by these trans activist f00ls doesn't withstand the scrutiny of those who call out their idi0cy for what it is
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LARPing
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How, in the internet age, can you claim with a straight face that they don't realize there's an agenda at play? C'mon
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There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are
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The cult narrative and terminology is rejected. Gender-- there are 2, and they are fixed and permanent. No one in history has transitioned from male to female. They need to Cope Harder
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His participation was essential to illustrate the personification of intellectual deficit so many apparently have, and illustrate the intellectual bankruptcy of the ideological narrative as a whole
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Cis/trans, as best as I can tell, are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are. Why should all of society be required to participate in the LARP and cosplay as a matter of law, counter to objective reality??? To suggest such a thing seems like the height of arrogance and narcissism
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@Maksie0 Being that all women are born female, how do you figure??
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Misgendering? Hateful?? There's nothing hateful about recognizing that someone is not that which they claim to be. It's merely being observant of objective reality. Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@Maksie0 Your cult ideology and narratives-- are rejected by the majority of people. The only one's fooled by your disguises are you
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@conor.3875 Like Budweiser?
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@conor.3875 Losing $5B in market capitalization is doing okay to you? Are you using the new math or something? That's not doing okay... That's horrible.
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@markusbaker1161 Already did. It''s the 3rd reply. Are you going to answer mine?
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@markusbaker1161 You didn't articulate which rights you're talking about. Still waiting on your answer before I can make sure I'm addressing what you have in mind
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That's r3t@rded
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Who isn't? That dude is unhinged from reality
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No
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Their emotional problems seem to ever lasting.
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If the validity of one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. They're merely caricatures of what they wish they were.
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They're men, and aren't any kind of woman. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females-- those dudes weren't. Those dudes are imposters portraying themselves as something they aren't
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Why, because they aren't fooled into thinking those men are women?
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@Kat-nv9cp The reasons that they aren't fooled suck-- makes THEM ridiculous?
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It's Great! He exposes the nonsense that is the trans ideological narrative and agenda
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@Maksie0 Get a helmet. Rejection--- Get used to it
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@Maksie0 Well, you certainly haven't proven your capacity to recognize the reality that men can't become women.
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@Milo-nr9kc They're not trans anything. Same as they ever were, and a costume change and plastic surgery doesn't change that either. They're merely caricatures of what they wished they could be.
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Huh... These activists who are hosting this site are deleting the scientific citations which disprove their incoherent ideology. Because they're interested in truth? I don't think so
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@retiredreligion Their personal preferences regarding their preferred pronouns as it refers to their personal identity has nothing to do with me, and isn't a matter of respect as far as I'm concerned.
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@Maksie0 Translation = trans wishes are to be respected , and women who object, too bad so sad. Self-centered narcissism at play
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What's trans? Altering your appearance doesn't change your sex/gender. Same sex/gender prior to altering your appearance as you are after altering your appearance.
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@gummynoodles9036 Evidence that they're more in danger than women who have men in their private spaces?? 🦗🦗🦗
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Woman= An adult, human, female
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@thirstquenched295 Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally because of a psych disorder or for attention, or Both. That you can't wrap your head around that is a YOU problem. Just Cope Harder
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@heathermcalpine802 Well, thank you. 💓I'm just trying to speak truth to this incoherent nonsense. Woe, to the feminists who buy into this madness, as in their near dystopian future-- they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will say they're women-- and they don't even see it coming. I find it Amazing
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You think women need help, feeling like women? That seems odd. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@markusbaker1161 I'm actually comparing them to women, which they are not.
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@markusbaker1161 No, I'm comparing them to the women they're misappropriating, by being caricatures of that which they are not and can never be-- when they misgender themselves by saying trans women are women. Nope, they are not
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@markusbaker1161 Even women with defects are still women. That said, Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not an activist, so-- So?
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@markusbaker1161 Then what are you whining about?
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@markusbaker1161 2 sexes/genders-- Male and Female, and they're permanent. That's it. A male suffering w/ gender dysphoria doesn't change him into a woman, because of his subjective identity-- he's still a male. A male who does not suffer w/ gender dysphoria and alters his appearance to look like a woman is still a male. Your argument is incoherent
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@markusbaker1161 Nope, Only 2. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Personality traits, and temperament are not synonymous with gender. Intersex isn't another sex/gender in the binary. It's an extremely rare biological disorder and they only ever present with male or female genitalia, none with both sex organs fully functional.
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Fke count. Most are generated from people commenting multiple times
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@conor.3875 Fact vs fiction
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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TOO Many, sadly... Too many
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They say gender identity and sex are separate, but haven't been able to justify encroaching on spaces designated segregated based on sex, as an entitlement. Not even close They also haven't come close yet, to being able to justify the expectation that just because they present and identify in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must treat them as though they're the opposite sex. It's absurd. No one has justified putting up with it
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@katherinetanks632 They're males, not females. When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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@katherinetanks632 Hmmm.... That's wrong. Yes, they are fixed and permanent. Pills etc... not withstanding scrutiny. Like I said, you can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek and prescribe 'pills' etc., and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon-- and if you think it does-- you're delusional. (Psych disorder) Still XX, XY, Birth defect or psych disorder-- That's it. Take your pick. Regardless of how elaborate the measures taken are to disguise reality may be, or how sincerely one believes their delusions to be representative of objective reality-- Still XX, XY, Birth Defect or Psych Disorder.
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@katherinetanks632 And YOU don't speak for all trans people. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total lack of any actual virtue in any of your unhinged whinging, then add to that your inability to discern the difference between males and females-- your credibility on this matter = ZERO.
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@anabelkay Elaborate?
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"It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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*He... That dude has ZERO frame of reference to draw from to give him the slightest clue about a 1st hand woman's perspective.
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Yes. They aren't trans anything whatsoever. All they've done is alter their appearance, by mutilating their normal biological functionality in the process. They're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do
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@ItsSchwifty Not a fan of progressivism nor socialism. "Socialism has a history of failure so blatant, that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it".-- T. Sowell
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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That's a lot of mental gymnastics. Bottom line, men dressed as women or not-- present a greater threat to women, than they do to men so, why are those men's safety a higher priority than the women who's safety is more at risk???
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Well, you don't have to be a Proctologist to recognize an @-hole when you see one, and you don't need a degree in biology to know a male or a female when you see one. Why would you care if someone is offended that you are observant of reality?
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@hrhr7762 How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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BOTH are males presenting as that which they can never be... ie. Women
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Regardless of religious belief, you are a part of God's plan
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@markusbaker1161 For someone who says they recognize transgender rights, you sure don't seem to be willing or able to articulate how they differ from the natural rights of all other males and females, or how or why they should be considered over and above the rights of the women who's spaces they're invading. Oh well... You do you
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@markusbaker1161 If there isn't, the differentiation you're making is entirely redundant and absurd
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@markusbaker1161 Black's law dictionary defines a woman as an adult, human, female. They're valid people. What are you talking about? The desire to be recognized as a construct? I recognize those men who you refer to as trans women as men portraying themselves as a social construct
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@markusbaker1161 ya ya ya I get what you're saying now. Those men wish to be seen as social constructs. They already are seen as men portraying themselves as a construct
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@markusbaker1161 the ability to decipher objective reality from fantasy role play, science fact from science-fiction or pseudo-science, men from women, functional from dysfunctional, logical from illogical. You perceive trans women as women, even though they're men-- and you want everyone else to as well, or at least to pretend to. Skeptical guy says, that ain't gonna happen
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@markusbaker1161 You're the one that insists on calling men trans women, and saying trans women are women. It doesn't matter That doesn't invalidate the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species being male and female, now does it? Trans women are a social construct played by men, who believe that altering their appearance will hide that they are men. If you want to play along, go for it. It's cosplay and LARPing gone unchecked and unrestrained, imo
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@markusbaker1161 The women who are being called cis by trans women against their will and having their privacy encroached on against their will believe their considerations matter too, might wonder why they don't get that same consideration
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@markusbaker1161 There's a bunch of them here in the comment section protesting the cis terminology and having their private spaces like their locker rooms, rest rooms, dressing rooms, sports teams and prisons being granted access to those men-- noting it's the height of misogyny.
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@markusbaker1161 Ignoring the women the way you do will however change votes and that changes laws
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@markusbaker1161 No, I'm reading their comments-- speaking for themselves, objecting. You're pretending they aren't
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@markusbaker1161 It is proof that women are speaking up against this madness-- which is the point you fail to acknowledge. There are none so blind as those, who would not see
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@markusbaker1161 It's sufficient to make the point. That you don't get it is a You problem. Your understanding isn't required. I can't believe the feminists aren't absolutely furious about this. Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology as in their near future-- they'll be oppressed by men like Blossom who claim they're women.
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@markusbaker1161 I don't care. You've proven to merely be an agitator
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@markusbaker1161 One doesn't need to be a doctor to read the stats of the studies
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@markusbaker1161 I know I am correct. If gender is disconnected from biology (It is not), granting males access to female's private spaces is totally unjustified on that basis alone. Make it make sense
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@markusbaker1161 No, I'm not. Cite any scientific source that proves trans women are not men. You can't. It just doesn't exist. Feel free to pretend otherwise, but it's cosplay
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@markusbaker1161 "Are valid"?? They are people. Those you refer to as trans women, are males.
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@markusbaker1161 No, they're males. Their sex/gender/biology is exactly the same prior to altering their appearance, as it is after they do. Still males You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek if you wish, prescribe hormones, wardrobe and makeup consultants and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon, and if you think it does, you're insane.
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@markusbaker1161 They want to be called trans women so they can pretend they're not men.
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@markusbaker1161 Utopia... and you??
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@markusbaker1161 If you want to play along with the transgender crowd, nothing is stopping you. You do you
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@markusbaker1161 Look in the mirror... Your preferred speech by others, that shows you’re so full of yourself that you think all other people must/should/need to-- participate in your cosplay/LARPing and cult terminology to make you feel alright, as if your blessing is worth something to the rest of the world. :face-turquoise-covering-eyes: Total narcissism from you
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@markusbaker1161 :text-green-game-over:
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, it has. I won before it started. If you want to pretend those dudes are women, by calling them trans women-- go for it. Doesn't change reality If you want to acknowledge they're dudes presenting as women, and choose to refer to them as trans women, and date them-- go for it. There's no stigma to being gay. 😁
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@markusbaker1161 Only males and females. All that other stuff stuff is a social construct, that doesn't alter biological objective reality, remember I won before you started, because I'm correct.
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@markusbaker1161 Your argument is fatally flawed, as is your logic. You just said it. Trans feelings aren't facts. Therefore the people who exist are male or female, not trans ANYTHING. Their feelings aren't facts invalidating the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species. :person-turqouise-waving:
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@Maksie0 Indeed, You are. I gotta say, I'm surprised you admit it
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What? Have you not read that which is considered abominations unto the Lord? Have you not heard of Babylon, Sodom & Gomorrah, the Flood of Noah and the reason being all flesh becoming corrupt.
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@yendyssss7945 Intentional or not, they do mock women, and displace them in sports, scholarships, restrooms, dressing rooms, showers,locker rooms, etc., by portraying themselves as caricatures of a women. Woe, to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian futures-- they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will say they're women
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No-- Just , No.
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@aaralyn6710 It's their job to adapt to the world. It isn't the worlds obligation to accommodate them. Besides that doesn't solve the problem of women with scholarships being displaced, or address women's prisons
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The reading levels and proficiency in math and science in California, are atrocious at every level-- including that of HS graduates. Not a model of excellence, that much is certain
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@Maksie0 That's the sound of women and men rejecting your incoherent ideological narrative. You better get used to it
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@markusbaker1161 Only with the protection of the anonymity of the internet, lest you lose your head
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@markusbaker1161 The only ones fooled into thinking your talking points have merit, is you and yours-- the vast vast minority-- that you are
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@markusbaker1161 People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and prior. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender.
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@markusbaker1161 Don't have to be a doctor to read and comprehend the medical literature.
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Somewhat Agree?? They're not Trans ANYTHING. They're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after-- which means they're still men
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The main issue is that people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are in objective reality/Fact, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Thoughts???
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It doesn't address the fact that restrooms are implemented based on biology not some subjective confusion about what a woman is... Besides that it, doesn't address sports teams, sports, scholarships, locker rooms, showers, changing rooms or prisons. Implementing your restroom solution in places like stadiums, convention centers etc... doesn't seem doable
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That dude is unhinged
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@markusbaker1161 You can hear me? That's odd
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The stats show that raising kids in a conservative household results in well-balanced, happy, successful, and self-disciplined individuals. Cope Harder. What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That you/they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's your/their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you/they wished they were.
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Just stop it. That dude is unhinged from reality. All women are born female, and that dude wasn't and isn't any kind of woman
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That they are incarcerated to prisons for committing crimes, seems to be out of focus, as it relates to them painting their own targets on their backs, no?.
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Because that doesn't alleviate dressing rooms, changing rooms, locker rooms, sports teams, scholarships or prisons.
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Both are imposters
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@msmithena No much of an argument there.
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@mariec3733 I recommend being relevant.
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@msmithena The prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. Your inability to process that indicates you're kinda slow. You only need to be able to read the studies and the DSM definitions that explains them; Until about 5 seconds ago when the hacks you rely on changed the classifications. The only ones fooled are you and yours-- which are the vast vast minority.
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@charcoalgea2863 Ooh, look at you trying to be edgy. Retired, happily married, great kid (Now in his 30's), financially independent, and those dudes pretending to be that which they are not, will never know what it feels like to be women either
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@markusbaker1161 You spend all that time trying to convince others that men are women and women are men. That's wrong
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@markusbaker1161 Men and women exist in objective reality-- and men or women altering their appearance doesn't change that status, regardless of how much you try to convince yourself and others that it makes a difference-- it doesn't
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@markusbaker1161 Mental disorders of a wide variety, at play there. Still men or women regardless of their attempt to identify as other than what they are
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@markusbaker1161 What are you, an anarchist? People with an identity crisis are real. People with schizophrenia, anti-social personality disorders and the like are real too, BUT-- their delusions aren't real. Now you know. People that identify as 'other than' what they are biologically-- are disconnected from reality. Accept that as obviously true or don't, which puts you in the extreme minority of the world population.
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@markusbaker1161 There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women, illustrating that your narrative is a totally bogus faith-based belief-- with ZERO evidence to support your claim that trans women are women. Checkmate / You lost
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@markusbaker1161 Until you prove that men can become women, your entire narrative remains bogus.
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@markusbaker1161 Next, no doubt you'll want proof that schizophrenia, and the like, are mental illness too. Your opinion is rejected. You fail to persuade. The world doesn't owe you anything. Cope or don't... You don't matter
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@thankyouforbeingafriend9632 Women (ALL of them) are born female, which make cis-- totally irrelevant and useless. Female and male are biological categories. Now you know. Biological female is redundant at best
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Too similar
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@markusbaker1161 You wouldn't understand
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@markusbaker1161 I'm of course talking about the mainstream trans-activist narrative, not yours per se.
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@markusbaker1161 The narrative that trans women ARE women. They are not.
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@markusbaker1161 Name calling? Do Better. Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 Then, calling a male impersonating a female a him, shouldn't be considered an insult. Is that what you're suggesting?
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@dr00g35 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively and sex is not disconnected from gender. They're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after. They're not 'trans' anything
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@markusbaker1161 Those who go around looking for trouble are often shocked, when they find it-- and trouble ends up dealing with them by consuming them
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@markusbaker1161 No. It must be the voices in your head. Consult your physician. I have been writing, not speaking. No worries, you've already displayed an inability to discern nuance or fact from fiction, so not a shocker. You just can't seem to stop yourself from trying to get more attention from me. Looks like I triggered an overload due to cognitive dissonance on your part, and it activated an impulse control problem for you. Your incessant drive toward getting negative attention is indicative of other anti-social personality disorders that you may want to have a professional consult you on.
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@markusbaker1161 If you're hearing voices, they aren't mine
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@markusbaker1161 "talking"?
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not talking at all
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@markusbaker1161 This is sad that we live in a world where grown adult men, who identify with stereotypical feminine traits, believe that they are women.
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@markusbaker1161 Be sad... Life's not fair
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That dude is unhinged from reality
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If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@markusbaker1161 go read the studies I provided
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@markusbaker1161 Have your mom help you figure out how to navigate to the address I already gave you, and then search the title I suggested
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@markusbaker1161 Quit capping! I told you to search for sui**dality among transgender youth
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@markusbaker1161 Try Google the term Now you want exact specifics, but can't cite the specific law you were referring to re: trans rights? Another example of the TOTAL lack of integrity, on your part-- Again. sigh... Just read just the abstract. See if you learn anything. It is one of many, that I think is worth reading. Start there... and continue at your own pace.
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@markusbaker1161 There is no transgender rights law in the USA that I'm aware of. There are already anti-discrimination laws, laws against assault, housing, employment, education, and health care for everyone. Are you suggesting that so-called 'trans' people are somehow exempt for any of them? Make it make sense
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@markusbaker1161 In my comment it clearly states what you're refusing to comprehend. Those already exist, and trans has nothing to do with any of it. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and prior. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Expecting rational communication and comprehension from confused and conflicted people isn't in itself rational.
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@markusbaker1161 You're the one who is misinformed, and have bought into the pseudo-science, science fiction narrative pushed by hacks
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@markusbaker1161 Uh huh... Cis/Trans come from Latin are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. The trans effect is an ancient but venerable observation. First noted by Chernyaev-- in 1926, the trans effect and its conceptual siblings (the trans influence, cis influence, and cis effect) are easy enough to comprehend-- YOU being the clear exception. That is, it’s simple enough to know what they are.
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@Maksie0 Simple minded, anyway. Who told you that, and why do you believe you're correct, being that all women are born female?
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Sorry, if one's identity is predicated upon the supposition that all of society must deny objective reality, and participate in the cosplay and LARPing-- then that identity isn't valid.
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It's also totally irrelevant and ridiculous considering that women (ALL of them) are born female.
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@Maksie0 Says the f00l who has difficulty deciphering males from females. Kick Rocks
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@Maksie0 Then they need to cope harder
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Altering one's appearance and a costume change doesn't turn men into women-- similarly the same is true, regarding men in drag
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@SirFish1 And? If they did, it wouldn't make it so either
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That dude is still a dude and will always be a dude. He isn't trans anything
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Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They appear to be misgendering themselves. How are they not?
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@markusbaker1161 Nah, one doesn't need to be a doctor to recognize the difference between males and females
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@markusbaker1161 You mean people presenting as that which they are not? Sure
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@markusbaker1161 When those labels get thrown around, I know you've lost the intellectual debate. Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 You're free to tell yourself whatever delusional narrative you want, and believe it too-- that doesn't make it so, and your comment-- same as your others, refutes nothing that I've written.
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@markusbaker1161 Irony?? You seem emotionally vested in trying to make a spectacle of yourself.
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@markusbaker1161 Already have. The fact that you don't recognize it is agan-- a YOU problem. You fail to persuade
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The problem they have with their virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual virtue in any of their unhinged whinging.
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@Maksie0 You're triggered and never happy are you. LOL Cope Harder
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@jupiterfox7683 There is exactly ZERO science proving males can become females and vice versa. Suggesting, therefore that trans women are women is patently absurd and false.
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It is the trans-activists, who's insistence that others-- who are already minding their own business, participate in LARP and cosplay, by insisting on the grammatically incorrect use of pronouns, and with no regard for the displacement of women's privacy, which is at the root of how you brought your business to everyone in public, making it their business. Irony or idiocy? Quit your whining.
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@thankyouforbeingafriend9632 When they say trans women are women they are. ALL women are born female.
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@Maksie0 You and your incoherent ideology are being rejected wholesale. Cope and seethe
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@Maksie0 Not even close.
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@Maksie0 You need some better material. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. If you could process the facts, reality wouldn't be so confusing for you
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@beingcece Being accurate in a debate, isn't being disrespectful ANYWHERE. Respect is earned, and is reserved for that which is respectable, is it not?
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@beingcece That wasn't much of a refutation. I prefer to use people's names when talking to them. You do you
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@Maksie0 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female; Those dudes weren't, and aren't any kind of woman-- they're still men. Get Real
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@The.rapist911 That f00l is a trans-activist troll acting as an agent provocateur. Probably paid by the channel
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@Maksie0 You still haven't figured out that the world is rejecting your incoherent narrative for being ludicrous, and removed from reality, yet? The use of cis is nonsense. There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female
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Shallow intellect and shady morals
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@shannynmartin3157 That didn't answer the question. Try again?
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@shannynmartin3157 That doesn't answer the question either. Do Better
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@shannynmartin3157 Still, not an answer. They aren't trans ANYTHING. Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after
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They get it wrong on gender. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles with personality. There is no such thing as non-binary. Then, they conflate males with females, men with women and reality with fantasy all the while failing to recognize that there is a prerequisite to being a woman, and that actually being born female.
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Islamophobe
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Start your own league
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@markusbaker1161 Why would I? Men fund our own leagues. Why shouldn't they fund theirs?
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@markusbaker1161 The truth matters
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@markusbaker1161 How so?
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@markusbaker1161 Define it. I don't think it is. Biological sex/gender is fixed and permanent, and those who you're referring to as transgender aren't trans anything whatsoever. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do.
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@markusbaker1161 LOL... Gender Dysphoria isn't being trans. It's a psych disorder which presents as a dissociative state
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@markusbaker1161 Call them what you want. They're men caricaturing women, or women caricaturing men, some suffer with gender dysphoria, and others are just indulging their own kink, and/or desire to be counter-culture. I recognize that they are not that which they claim to be or present themselves as, like it or not. The fact is that the social norms are actually established currently, and a dude in a dress LARPing and engaging in cosplay are clearly not it, and even if they were-- it's still a dude in a dress not trans anything. They're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after. These dudes like Blossom are the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not.
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@markusbaker1161 You never defined which rights you were referring to. So? Which rights are you referring to?
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is the construct, based in fantasy. Cope harder
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@markusbaker1161 Actually, by the majority of the inhabitants of the earth, but you go ahead believe what you will
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@markusbaker1161 No, I really don't. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. That you can't wrap your head around that, is a You problem
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@Zombawee Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They appear to be misgendering themselves. How are they not?
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@markusbaker1161 I never argued that they weren't individuals. They're just not what they present themselves as, so when they say trans women are women-- that's just factually inaccurate
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@markusbaker1161 Their dissociative state is delusional by definition. Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 If you can, so can I
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They're both males presenting as something they're not-- females. Men dressed as prostitutes and adult burlesque entertainment doesn't belong anywhere near kids
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They seem to fail to comprehend that the 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female.
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@Bound2chaos2 🎯 1 Million up votes
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There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the cis distinction totally irrelevant and intellectually stunted
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@lanacat-j2y I did, and you failed to prove me incorrect. Let me expand-- Not all trans people suffer with dysphoria (OR, are you saying that they all do?), but they all do have a way higher risk of self deleting than the rest of the of the general population, so I see it as a more pressing underlying issue to address, than a mere matter of cosmetics. The argument in favor of affirmative care is, if you don't let them transition that they'll self-delete. Well, they seem to do that even if you do let them transition, so as far as I'm concerned it's an invalid argument. Not having coping mechanisms to deal with the adversity one faces in life is a psych issue, that surgery doesn't alleviate-- which begs the questioning of affirmation-based treatment protocols, along with the ethics of those who do
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Just to clarify-- Those are, in fact, 2 words. That is a 'phrase', not a word.
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@rosemondodor8199 These delusional living memes illustrate the need for more asylums
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@vtwinxtreme marie c is an activist troll
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@vtwinxtreme No worries... Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not. They seem unable to process the info
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@conor.3875 Being used after being made aware of the objection, is provocative. Trans is the fringe-- women aren't the opposite of trans, they're the standard which the men who you refer to as trans women, are trying to emulate-- making the cis distinction entirely irrelevant and redundant
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@mariec3733 You seem triggered
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@mariec3733 People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and prior. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules, it has nothing to do with gender.
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@conor.3875 And I don't think your endorsement is required, or valued by the vast majority-- to make any difference whatsoever to those who find your entire narrative invalid
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@conor.3875 Then, when someone refuses to indulge you, by using your preferred pronouns, participating in your LARPing and cosplay-- keep your mouth shut.
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Nah, we just recognize that they're men in a costume
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@Maksie0 Cope Harder... All women are born female and that dude is unhinged from reality, and so are you-- if you think he's a 'she'
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I call 🐄💩
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Don't conflate personality traits and temperament (As neither are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender or gender roles-- as though they're synonymous. They are not. One's subjective identity, in conflict with objective reality, isn't valid.
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@markusbaker1161 Those who say trans women are women do, as an attempt to justify granting those men access into women's private spaces. So-- stfu,and move on. Your cult rhetoric is rejected
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@markusbaker1161 Okay
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@markusbaker1161 Look it up
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@markusbaker1161 No need. A quick search will yield results showing the stats. It'd be really easy to prove me incorrect, if I was incorrect-- but you can't, because I'm not
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@markusbaker1161 Like I said, you can't find anything that proves what I said incorrect.
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@markusbaker1161 I've been asking questions, scrutinizing your conclusions and statements contrasting against the available stats and data-- and you've not yet substantiated your position. No worries. I already knew you wouldn't and couldn't.
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@mariec3733 What's your point? That men and women aren't social constructs, or that subjective gender identity in conflict w/ reality, is not a reason that men should be granted access into women's private spaces?
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@mariec3733 Then, stay tf out of women's private spaces.
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@mariec3733 An adult, human, female. My definition hasn't changed ever
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@mariec3733 I seriously doubt that you're a woman. Deal with it. You're not even convincing online
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@markusbaker1161 I don't know what you're whinging about. There are people.They are male or female, respectively. Segments of each present with various physical deficits, and psych issues-- some with both. That doesn't make them any less male or female.
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@markusbaker1161 No, I never did. A woman is an adult, human, female. Healthy, unhealthy or no longer living, they're all still women-- with periods or not. The prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. Your inability to process that indicates you're kinda slow. You only need to be able to read the studies and the DSM definitions that explains them; Until about 5 seconds ago when the hacks you rely on changed the classifications. The only ones fooled are you and yours-- which are the vast vast minority.
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@smurschmur1954 Nah... stems from him being granted participation trophy accolades, as though they're merit based, all his life
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James Brown impersonator in a weird wig?? 😏
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@markusbaker1161 Hey trans clown, you're only fooling yourself
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They aren't trans ANYTHING. Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after. They're just caricatures of real women.
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@Maksie0 Cope harder! If You want to integrate into society-- then remember that it's YOU, who needs to adapt, not the majority- who reject your trans-activist ideology. To insist that society must play along with your counter-culture position-- makes you seem arrogant, narcissistic, self-entitled and ridiculous. You're not the center of the universe and the world isn't going to reorganize itself to accommodate your subjective feelings, contrary to objective reality. You need to develop better coping mechanisms to deal with adversity, because not everyone is going to like you, or be accommodating.
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@toldya4654 Quit your gaslighting. The vast majority of people cross-culturally and internationally reject the trans ideological narrative. Don't believe me... Ask Budweiser, Disney, Target, etc. The vast vast vast minority don't get to tell everyone else how they need to remake the world in their image. Get Real
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@toldya4654 And yet, the self termination rates are higher than ever, and way higher than that of the general population-- despite being more accepted than ever. Looks like they were better off prior to affirmation-based treatment becoming the standard. Thoughts???
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@yepitsjilly trans women are men. It's not complicated
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@Maksie0 'Transphobic'-- What a toothless, intellectually bankrupt slur. Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are inappropriately confusing and conflating gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous and they are NOT, while simultaneously insisting that biological sex and gender are disconnected-- while failing to realize that a subjective identity doesn't alter anyone's biological reality. Lost souls
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@markusbaker1161 That's wrong
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@markusbaker1161 You don't know what's true. You can't decipher the differences between men and women.
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@markusbaker1161 Nope, you referred to hacks with questionable ethics, being challenged by their medical professional peers.
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@markusbaker1161 Your needs couldn't be less important to me. Your fantasy-based cult ideology is rejected. You said sex and gender were separate; making the point that one's subjective gender identity doesn't alter their biology. Referring to him as she is grammatically incorrect and absent any basis in reality. Your talking points and cult ideology are rejected
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@markusbaker1161 You know 💩
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There's no phobia in recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim to be-- it's just a matter of being observant of objective reality
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@markusbaker1161 A phobia is an irrational fear. There's nothing irrational about protecting children from groomers
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@markusbaker1161 I have nieces and nephews. Why don't you care?
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@markusbaker1161 Apparently, you believe that's some how relevant.
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@markusbaker1161 I don't think it is, other than perhaps illustrating that you would prefer that groomers watch over your kids. You do you
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@markusbaker1161 Like I said-- You do you. I would prefer you leave your kids w/ someone else too
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@markusbaker1161 No worries, feel free to keep your head buried in the sand, and don't forget to get all of your boosters.
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@markusbaker1161 You apparently still haven't read the medical studies I provided you. If you have difficulty with that, have your mom read and explain them to you
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@markusbaker1161 Are you trying to prove that you're incompetent? Yes, I have-- in multiple places. Do your own damned research, like an intelligent adult
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Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. No?
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@markusbaker1161 How so?
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@markusbaker1161 Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 Believe what you will. It in no way impacts the reality of the situation that men cannot become women
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@markusbaker1161 That's what I'd tell them, if they got triggered over being called out for their disguises-- not making them women.
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@alxprtr How many kids have you raised to become happy, healthy, successful adults?
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@markusbaker1161 Ahh, my stalker.
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is the construct. You're Welcome
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@markusbaker1161 Show me one, that is what they say they are. They don't exist.
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is the real construct. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Cope Harder
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@gozunekin20 I am me.
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@gozunekin20 hello
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People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and prior. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender.
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@partimelobster As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born a female, and those dudes haven't been. Wake up
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@wetworms. A woman is an adult, human, female. As it turns out, the prerequisite for being a woman is being born female.
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@mariec3733 Males have a P, females have a V. The same way doctors do when they deliver a newborn baby. How many kids do you have? I was there in the delivery room, and can confirm this w/ 1st hand info. Can you?
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No, you're born female. Women are females who mature into adulthood
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Bottom line is Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@markusbaker1161 I'm merely being observant of reality, not making any decisions about someone choosing to alter their appearance. What are you referring to, regarding decision making powers?
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@markusbaker1161 If one's identity is predicated on the notion that the world ignore reality,then that identity is not valid. Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@sophiaschier-hanson4163 Because the truth matters. The fact people recognize that men cannot become women seems to trigger the advocates and those who wish they could is of no consequence. One doesn't need to be a doctor to decipher the difference between males and females
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@Maksie0 He
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Considering their analytical capacity, I wouldn't put it past them
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@Maksie0 Just remember, when you think things are against you-- it's probably You, and the world doesn't owe you acceptance. If You want to integrate into society-- then remember that it's YOU, who needs to adapt. To insist that society must play along with your counter-culture position-- makes you seem arrogant, narcissistic, self-entitled and ridiculous. You're not the center of the universe and the world isn't going to reorganize itself to accommodate your subjective feelings, contrary to objective reality. You need to develop better coping mechanisms to deal with adversity, because not everyone is going to like you, or be accommodating. There's only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female. Take your time to process reality
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@yansideabacoa6257 Cope harder... Trans women are men with issues pretending that that they're women without issues
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@glassesyouneed6876 grow up
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@glassesyouneed6876 What more needs to be said? If you have difficulty with recognizing the difference between males and females, you should find a therapist
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It should read, Delusional men vs women
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His cognitive dissonance can't comprehend, so he gets triggered
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Yup... Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Gender and Personality-- They conflate the difference. There's only one kind of woman, and they are all born females, so... using the cis prefix is totally redundant and unnecessary. The entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh There are males and females. That's it! Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct, and they act like she is. She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals specifically humans. Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1. Your body and brain develop & grow together -> You simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2. Hating a functional part of you body so much, that you opt to cut it off, is a mental illness. There are only males and females. Those are dudes in disguise. They aren't trans anything. The prerequisite to being a woman is being born female, and those dudes were not.
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@Maksie0 There are no trans humans. There are males and females... That's it-- making the use of cis and trans nonsensical
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@conor.3875 I recognize dudes as dudes, regardless of their quirky cosplay and LARPing-- presenting themselves as flamboyant, stereotypes and caricatures of women. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the use of 'cis' entirely irrelevant.
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@conor.3875 Have you? You keep asking the same questions, so I keep giving you the same answers
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@conor.3875 Well, Now you know. You're welcome
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@Maksie0 There's no such thing as trans women. That's just another word you use to describe confused men, who cosplay and LARP portraying the stereotype of a caricature of a female. There are only males and females, which is why using the cis prefix is entirely nonsensical
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@conor.3875 Yes, you did. Granted, you didn't ask me-- but nonetheless, Now you know. You're Welcome
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@conor.3875 What do you want? A medal... Don't care. I gave you facts, not an opinion
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@conor.3875 You did in fact ask. Cope harder
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@conor.3875 Just take the 'L', and walk away
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@Maksie0 The problem you have is that the world exists in an objective reality, and the vast vast vast majority of people don't have a problem deciphering males from females, or reality from the disconnected claims of subjective identity, contrary to reality-- of the confused. Your feelings about objective reality and wishing it were different, don't affect reality in the slightest bit. Once a male, always a male. Once a female, always a female. Quit conflating personality with gender as though they're synonymous-- They Aren't
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@batlover1977 It's a term used in chemistry which has nothing to do with gender. Get Real
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@batlover1977 It's a term used by radical trans-activists who have major problems with their narratives not surviving scrutiny, as life is based in objective reality, and most don't have difficulty deciphering reality from the trans imagination
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@batlover1977 All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, preference, or costume making the trans-activist terminology as you/they apply it-- make using the cis/trans prefix intellectually hollow and thoroughly irrelevant
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@batlover1977 Reality vs the trans imagination
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They're never happy.
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@markusbaker1161 Lame-- even for you
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@markusbaker1161 Your conclusion that I was speaking of myself when my comment was clearly discussing others, is what was lame
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@markusbaker1161 That's why you're lame
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@markusbaker1161 I doubt you'd be this provocative and obnoxious in person. You hide behind the anonymity of the internet like a coward, playing the part of the fool. Karma will catch up to you.
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@markusbaker1161 Not more than you calling me names
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@markusbaker1161 It doesn't matter. They didn't justify having males being granted access into women's private spaces. Failing that, none of the minutia that you've been arguing about changes that fact, none of your arguments are relevant
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@markusbaker1161 Women aren't a social construct. Trans women Are
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@Maksie0 Problem w/ you theory is for over a decade the Leftists have been in control, and all the highest crime major cities are democrat run and have been for 50 years
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@mariec3733 There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women, illustrating that your narrative is a totally bogus faith-based, cult belief-- with zero evidence to support your claim that trans women are women. Checkmate / You lost
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@Maksie0 There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female making it useless, but it denigrates women by suggesting that there is another kind-- and there is not.
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@i_kissed_a_pixie1537 It never happened.
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Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is actually respectable. Those men aren't women. Women aren't a costume that those men can simply put on and take off, and they're not a feeling or a social construct. Women are adult, human, females and as it turns out-- the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female.
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@Maksie0 Do you know what a woman is?
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@aharrypotterfan5951 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the use of 'cis' totally irrelevant and useless.
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@@malaika777 🎯
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Just stop. Satan is the father of Cain, not Adam. Study the parable of the wheat and the tares, the sheep and the goat judgements, and the fig tree for a deeper understanding
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@Maksie0 Is that what your mom says to you?
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@maya.sunsubs All women are born female, all men are born male (ZERO exceptions) and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference, or a costume--making the 'cis/trans' prefix intellectually bankrupt and totally useless
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A woman who recognizes that Blossom is a fool
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How so?
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@petemiller2920 You present yourself with the integrity of a phone scammer
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@markusbaker1161 It appears you're on-shift at the scammer call-center too
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@markusbaker1161 No. I'm still correct and unrefuted. What's to be upset about?
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@petemiller2920 By the fact that I've not been refuted, in this or any other thread. Links???
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@markusbaker1161 Did you ever go read the studies that I gave you the . gov link to? Do Better
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@markusbaker1161 Start w/ a search of suc**ality among transgender youth
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@allyrose28 Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders -- who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@Maksie0 No one smart, validates that as intellectually coherent
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@justyana488 They're gender pretenders. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. They aren't 'trans' ANYTHING
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@Maksie0 It's an intellectually shallow label
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@justyana488 No. The 'Lord of the Flies' approach to parenting that you're advocating is summarily rejected in the name of sanity
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Not trans anything. Merely a caricature of that which he'll never be-- a woman. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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Look, adult, burlesque entertainment isn't something kids should be around. Trying to justify it makes you look like a gr00mer
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@markusbaker1161 Prove it
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@markusbaker1161 That doesn't prove that it's only my opinion, or that it isn't based on evidence. You've proved nothing and have refuted even less
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@markusbaker1161 I haven't seen you refute anything with evidence, so make of that what you will
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@markusbaker1161 No, you said that. I said, I recognize that they are not that which they present themselves to be. There's a not so subtle difference there
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@markusbaker1161 It shows the power of observation and discernment, that men who alter their appearance do not become women.
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@markusbaker1161 Believe what you will. You're not important enough for your opinion to matter
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@markusbaker1161 Your acceptance isn't required
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Men, wishing they were women are still men, regardless of their feelings, cosplay or LARPing.
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Reality that women are all born female, and all men are born male vs Delusional fantasy... There is no contest
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@aaralyn6710 *He. That dude will never be a woman.
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Well, trans men can be nothing other than women. Just sayin Look, I couldn't possibly care less if they get a surgeon to alter their appearance to look like a Klingon. Even if they really really really believe it actually then makes them a Klingon-- it does not, and anyone who thinks it does is delusional or intellectually stunted. Women (ALL of them) are born female, and that state is fixed and permanent-- making the use of 'Cis' entirely ridiculous. Women aren't social constructs. They're one half of the binary dichotomy of all mammals, specifically humans-- in objective reality. I don't care if they identify as rich, successful and beautiful whatever... if they're not, they're not
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@markusbaker1161 Describing you, it's been written that there are none so blind as those who would not see
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@n.m8287 How do you figure?
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@markusbaker1161 Of course not.
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@markusbaker1161 A social construct. Your turn, what is a woman?
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@markusbaker1161 A trans woman is a male. The reasons behind why they present as other than a male, don't alter the fact that they're male-- Calling those men by another name like trans women, doesn't alter the fact that they're males. Too bad so sad
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@markusbaker1161 A woman isn't a social construct. They're a biological category, so how is it that you figure a trans woman who's biologically male is a biological woman? It just doesn't make any sense
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@T3RM1N4llyOffl1n3 Who told you that? The only thing the world owes you is an expiration date
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@Maksie0 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females. Peddle your nonsense elsewhere
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@gretchenroach3671 Waht else would one expect from people who suffer from psych issues such as these? Rhetorical When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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@Maksie0 Why are you? You're constantly making a spectacle of yourself, spouting nonsense and when questioned, you run away like a cowardly troll
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It's a burlesque form of adult entertainment that doesn't belong around children
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@briannachilders772 That's what a Groomer ad might look like
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@briannachilders772 It's not up to you, groomer. It's up to the parents to determine when that subject is appropriate to address with their children, Not you or anybody else. Cope harder
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@briannachilders772 Looks like You are
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@briannachilders772 G r o o m e r... Kick Rocks
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@Maksie0 The one's looking to control the speech of others w/ preferred pronouns or face legal consequences, are the fascists.
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@pharaoh4866 Brilliant! And each individual can argue among themselves
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How is that implemented in stadiums, convention centers, and prisons-- where the restrooms must accommodate more than 1 individual at a time. It isn't very practical
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@ItsSchwifty And no matter what you tell yourself, it's going to refer to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively-- and altering your appearance, wardrobe, and hormone levels doesn't change that
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@markusbaker1161 prove that regardless, they're anything other than men
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@markusbaker1161 That's exactly the point. Their feelings don't change that
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@markusbaker1161 you argue like chatbots
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@markusbaker1161 The logic it takes to say that someone who has a host of other behavioral/mental disorders (as nearly all dealing with transgenderism do) and is willing to mutilate themselves in irreversible fashion to achieve a status wherein they're still dozens of times more likely to commit sui**de ISN'T mental illness, is amazingly twisted. Insert any other condition and any other incessant desire to self-harm and there would be no dispute whatsoever.
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@markusbaker1161 Your permission isn't required
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No
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No, unethical medical professionals did that
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So they can pretend they're another type of woman
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@conor.3875 It's irrelevant, as there is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females
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@Maksie0 What's the supposed swindle??
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They do-- in significantly higher percentages than the average. I submit for a reason, and it isn't because they're well-balanced individuals
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Wherever they're convicted of crime, would be a reasonable assumption. Some have been relocated to the women's prison however, and some of those resulte in pregnant female inmates. They belong in prison with the men, as prison is supposed to be punishment for crime.
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Narcissist + low IQ + Psych disconnect = Blossom
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@Ipernova Ding, Ding, Ding... We have a WINNER! 1 Million up votes
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And locker rooms, changing rooms, showers, and prisons too?? No
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That dude is totally unhinged
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@catboyash get a clue
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@markusbaker1161 The biological science is already established, validating my statements. The psych science validates my statements as well. Dissociative disorders are clearly defined as those involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self. 😏😮🧐 If you have a clue, you certainly have gone out of your way to hide any evidence that would support that claim
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@markusbaker1161 I am not confused at all. You're the one that asserts with ZERO evidence to prove it-- that calling men "transgender" is somehow relevant or makes them something other than men.
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@markusbaker1161 Me either... They're males, generally presenting as females and/or 'other than men', and females-- generally presenting as males or 'other than female'. Still the same as they were when they were born. You haven't made the case for why someone who's XY should be considered XX (As would necessarily be the case, to substantiate the statement that trans women are women) or trans XX. Why not try being relevant for a change?
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@silpsizzup1299 If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Once a dude, always a dude
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Besides restrooms, there are dressing rooms, locker rooms, sports teams and prisons. It's unadulterated misogyny. Those are men, they will always be men. Their imaginations and subjective personality traits and temperament don't change the fact that those trans women aren't trans anything-- They're men
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There is no such thing as trans. There are males and females. That's it...
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@Maksie0 You haven't made the case for why someone who's XY should be considered XX (As would necessarily be the case, to substantiate the statement that trans women are women) or trans XX. Why not try being relevant for a change?
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Not Hardly... That doesn't address women's scholarships, sports, sports teams, showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, restrooms, sorority dorm rooms, and prisons.
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They realize-- after they chop off their properly functioning parts, that they were lied to.
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@veronica7459 It's called parenting. Gaslight harder
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@RotisserieiJamie To devalue women, their considerations and desires. The prerequisite for being a woman is being born female. That's a biological category, which is fixed and permanent. A woman is an adult, human, female-- and those trans women aren't that and never will be that.
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@markusbaker1161 Because you say so? LOL What makes you the authority or spokesperson for the entire trans community?
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@markusbaker1161 Black's law dictionary defines a woman as an adult, human, female. They're valid people. What are you talking about? The desire to be recognized as a construct? I recognize those men who you refer to as trans women as men portraying themselves as a social construct
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@markusbaker1161 You said gender is a mere construct, so it doesn't really matter does it? Similar to clowns-- trans women are a social construct, played by men who wish their clown disguise hid that they were men 🤪🤡 🌎
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@markusbaker1161 You're the one that insists on calling men trans women, and saying trans women are women. It doesn't matter That doesn't invalidate the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species being male and female, now does it? Trans women are a social construct played by men, who believe that altering their appearance will hide that they are men. If you want to play along, go for it. It's cosplay and LARPing gone unchecked and unrestrained, imo
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@markusbaker1161 While failing to recognize that they're still men, regardless of their subjective identity. It does matter. It matters when it comes to women's rights, that they're men
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@markusbaker1161 There are 27k comments here, including you and you cared enough to argue for sport about it-- adding to that number, even going so far as to ask what my point is as well. The point is lost on you
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The prerequisite to becoming a woman is-- being born female, and trans-women aren't that. They're men, and are in no way entitled to access to women's private spaces.
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@markusbaker1161 Not everywhere. You seem to have a vested interest in suggesting that men, when presenting as women-- should be granted access to women's spaces and that women should be okay with that.
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@wiggeltje There are no trans anyone... All women are born female, all men are born male and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference, or a costume
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There are males and females. This is not a complicated equation. How are they-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? Why should those men who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria be granted access to women's private spaces?
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@markusbaker1161 I've already exposed the idiocy of your narrative's claims that trans women are women to be ridiculous I know you haven't answered with integrity or honesty, and I don't presume that you will.
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@markusbaker1161 Cry Harder! Just know that in the future, your insistence on preferred pronoun use will be rejected with an I don't care, a smile, and a quick dismissal
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@markusbaker1161 Yes I do. No, they aren't. If that were true, you wouldn't need back up for your insane ideas. Cry all you want. The narrative is asinine and insane
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Intersex disorders aren't some enigma that breaks down our evolutionary and anthropological understanding of sex; they are genetic disorders-- already perfectly explained by a much simpler model of biology, that isn't founded in baseless speculation adherent to a politically charged narrative. I'm contesting the notion that edge cases invalidate categorical classification as a whole. We don't throw specific classification to the wayside because some individual animals are infertile; likewise, our understanding of sex isn't blown out of the water by people with genetic disorders. I called them edge cases, but they're hardly even that; they're only normatively anomalous, they're still perfectly easy to explain-- in terms of genotype and phenotype, and they still have a dichotomous sex. The only exception you could possibly make would be Swyer syndrome, except that too is perfectly explained under the genotype/phenotype model.
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@markusbaker1161 🤡
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@markusbaker1161 Grow up
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@markusbaker1161 Congratulations
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@markusbaker1161 No worries. You do you. I'm not going to ignore what I can observe with my own eyes, and promote make believe, or cater to feelings-- by pretending that the identity of people who identify as something they're not in reality, is valid. They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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@markusbaker1161 Not relevant and not a refutation
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@markusbaker1161 If you refuted anything, it must've been using invisible ink, because there's no evidence anywhere of you doing any such thing
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@markusbaker1161 LOL-- They also said wear a mask to prevent the transmission of airborne viruses, which is contrary to the medical peer-reviewed studies. Make of that what you will. Go get your boosters
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@markusbaker1161 Those men are just not that which they present themselves as, but If you're fooled into believing that they are or just want to pretend they are, nothing is stopping you. That's on You.
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@markusbaker1161 Those are men. You can call them whatever you want. They're still men
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@markusbaker1161 Still desperate for my attention. SO cringe
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@markusbaker1161 Boring...
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@markusbaker1161 Is that why you dismiss women's rights to privacy-- because it bores you?
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@markusbaker1161 Every time you mock them, by pretending their rights to privacy are mutable-- just because men claim to be women
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Dude is a moron w/ psych issues. Not a great combo
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No. There's nothing negative about recognizing that trans-humans are not that which they claim to be. It just makes them observant
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@Maksie0 You need your hard drive to be reformatted
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Blossom reminds me of President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho
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@Maksie0 Cope harder
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@Maksie0 1+1=2 There is only male and female
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@mariec3733 Still trolling and making a spectacle of yourself by making substance free comments. Up your game junior
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There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the use of 'Cis' entirely useless and irrelevant, so how do you figure?
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@Maksie0 f00lish troll bot
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@Maksie0 Intersex is a birth defect, where the individual has organs of both sexes male & female (Often non-functional) and they do not present another sex in the binary, and for that reason-- they don't invalidate the binary at all. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), with gender
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@Maksie0 No, they're confused dudes with a quirky fashion sense who have difficulty coping with reality, as it is
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@mariec3733 The notion that men can become women-- isn't real.
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@maynardewm When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect, Psych Disorder... That's it, so take your pick. Oh, and No, intersex isn't another gender in the binary, it's a birth defect
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@terraguttierez2996 It illustrates perfectly, how long male and female have been established. Their 'truth' is an illusion and isn't based in reality-- making it a lie. They're imposters
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@shhh.im.thinking3069 No, respect is earned-- and it's reserved for that which is actually respectable, or it'd be meaningless. If your identity relies on others denying objective reality, then your identity isn't valid. Being observant of objective reality isn't hateful. It's just being observant of reality. Men cannot become women, and vice versa. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman and that's being born female, and those dudes weren't.
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@YoVeganO Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh
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They conflate gender (There are only 2 male/female), with gender roles (Which vary from culture to culture, society to society and country to country-- BUT without exception ALL address the roles of males and females in those societies,cultures and countries) and then they conflate gender, gender roles and personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) as though they're synonymous, and they just aren't
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They've gotten it totally wrong on gender. Gender (There are 2) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Then, they inappropriately conflate gender, personality traits and temperament-- as though they're synonymous and they are not. They should learn the differences. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate male and female. Then, they conflate men and women. It's totally incoherent nonsense that they're peddling
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100 up votes
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@imnotnotgameiacmaniac5327 Trans is the construct. Cope Harder
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@imnotnotgameiacmaniac5327 It does, when they say a trans woman is a woman. :face-blue-smiling:
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They choose to call an apple an orange, and then act as if that somehow affects the nature of the apple, despite not affecting the nature or the apple nor the orange. koo kkoo 4 coacoa puffs
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That is a congenital disorder
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@Etlr22 No. That is a physical genetic issue while trans is a psych issue
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@conor.3875 It's not the 'thing' that you're peddling-- at all. Gender-- There are 2 male and female. You conflate personality and temperament with gender. Then, you conflate gender, personality and temperament with gender roles. Then, you conflate male with female, men with women, and objective reality with subjective fiction. There is only one kind of woman, and they're all born female. Now, you know
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@conor.3875 I reject the trans ideological terminology all together. There are people. They are male or female, respectively. There are segments of each who suffer with various physical and/or psych disorders-- none of which make them anything other than males or females, respectively.
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@Etlr22 It's a genetic birth defect, not another gender invalidating the binary dichotomy of all mammals. They only ever present with male or female anatomy, respectively. Not a 3rd gender
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Rather-- the lack there of
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You're supposed to affirm their self-perception, regardless of it being contrary to objective reality. ZERO F~cks given about their delusional labels
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@hell0daisy193 Nope! Men cannot become women and vice versa. When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect, Psych Disorder... That's it, so take your pick. Oh, and No, intersex isn't another gender in the binary, it's a birth defect
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@hell0daisy193 Tell it to your therapist. There's nothing phobic about recognizing that you're not that which you claim to be-- It merely makes me observant, recognizing that you're FOS
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@Sirena And I decide which pronouns to describe my perceptions. I don't perceive them as they perceive themselves.
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@technoloverish NEWSFLASH: Science is not a consensus, and there's no such thing as trans. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after.
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@technoloverish They're LARPing at BEST. Get a Clue
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There are people, and they're born male or female. There are minority segments of each that are born with physical birth defects, psych disorders and some with both.
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@ScizzoringGirlz I just laugh at your confused, indoctrination. You look and sound ridiculous. There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are
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@Maksie0 I just laugh at your confused, indoctrination. You look and sound ridiculous. There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are
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Gender dysphoria is a distressing condition. We have known for a long time that it is associated with other psychiatric disorders such as depression, and increased rate of self-delete attempts. The surgery and medical treatment is not perfect. It is thus not surprising that this group of patients will continue to suffer from stress-related psychiatric disorders. There might be lingering professional and relational problems. It is also possible (but unproven) that gender dysphoria is somehow etiologically related to depression. In that case, fixing the first with a cure would not automatically fix the latter.
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@Maksie0 Save it, and instead--savor the rejection
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Men vs women. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females, making their use of cis a slur, as if to suggest otherwise.
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@mariec3733 Ya, trans is a cult term used to pretend that there's another kind of woman other than those born female-- BUT there isn't
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@h24812h 🎯
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@amberfirexx9 Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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As if there's any other kind of woman, but biological. How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition, and are then considered "rational"?
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All who menstruate are females
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@markusbaker1161 Of course you think that... Does one have to be a professional paratrooper to understand that 4 out of 10 parachutes not opening are horrible odds? Answer: No, you just have to have a functional prefrontal cortex, and the ability to navigate common sense, and logic. Get your 5th booster, and go run some laps
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@markusbaker1161 Your inability to cope with analogies is what it is. I'm a retired Behavior Modification Specialist, and am finding your attention seeking behavior interesting. You seem starved for attention, and conflict. Have you always had trouble with appropriate interpersonal interactions?
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@markusbaker1161 Well, the analogies seem to cause you angst and confusion. Having access to the studies, one only need a functional reading comprehension capacity to read what they say. Why do you think a 40% rate of self-termination-- even after transition illustrates an acceptable, successful treatment program?
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@markusbaker1161 No, I said it was nearly 10x's higher than the average
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@markusbaker1161 Read the studies. The average rate is around 4%, while those after transition is around 40%. I'm not going to do a full breakdown here, for you. The censors will delete it. I've tried-- so, you'll have to do your own homework
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@Maksie0 No, them offing themselves is making it impossible for them to live
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@Maksie0 🖕Take your own advice
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It's incoherent madness from start to finish.
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It is, however-- easy to argue that there is only 1 kind of woman, and that they're all born females
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@justyana488 No... Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then your identity is not valid.
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You spelled m0r0n incorrectly
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*He is totally unhinged from reality, and isn't any sort of 'she'
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*He is a psych case
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If they're in an asylum okay... BUT-- that doesn't address Prisons, Locker rooms, Dressing Rooms, Sports, Sports teams at all
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Ikr-- So many are confused about the fact that women can't become men and women can't become women
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@Ey3_s0cEt.4.20. That's wrong. Get a refund from your school
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@thankyouforbeingafriend9632 Yes! There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female
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@aeiou4089 Well, it occurs to me that first and foremost, they don't seem to have difficulty deciphering the differences between males and females
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@markusbaker1161 Is it? hmmm....
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@markusbaker1161 You assumption is noted, and your conclusion is feeble. Your acceptance isn't required, but thanks anyway
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@markusbaker1161 You are heavily invested in arguing for sport. Try therapy. It'd be really easy for a competent adult to prove what I said was incorrect-- if I was-- but I'm not, so you can't. You lose
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@markusbaker1161 You lose
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@markusbaker1161 Tell yourself whatever lies you want. I've been asking questions, scrutinizing your conclusions and statements contrasting them against the available stats and data-- and you've not yet substantiated your position. No worries. I already knew you wouldn't and couldn't.
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It's a symptom of their psych disorders
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Men have no reference whatsoever, re: what it 'feels' like to be a woman
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@Maksie0 Refutation?
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@markusbaker1161 I'm aware, however as typically is the case-- you and they haven't exactly forthcoming when asked to provide answers to questions, or evidence to support your assertions, SO-- I figured I ask and see if they would/could provide evidence to the contrary proving their assertion false.
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@markusbaker1161 Your integrity is zero
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@markusbaker1161 Apparently not. The comments are being shadow banned by some integrity free individual who doesn't think the truth should be spoken, because the narratives they advocate do not stand up to scrutiny. That there are those who run with them, don't invalidate reality.
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@markusbaker1161 You look like you're trying to be provocative and antagonistic, to satisfy an anti-social, attention-seeking disorder. I don't need to prove it. You've proven it to me. They're men is a dress-- Not women. It's just as simple as that. Their claimed identities of being women, don't make them women. Those who identify as transgender are still men in cosplay, they're not any kind of woman. Your suggestion otherwise doesn't invalidate reality. They're still men, and suggesting otherwise is what's absurd. They are not women, and shouldn't be infiltrating women's spaces like restrooms, sports teams, locker rooms or in prisons, because they're Men
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@markusbaker1161 You can continue to write that, but it doesn't make it so. I'm not upset at all. My life is AWESOME! You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and have not justified allowing men to infiltrate women's private places, because of their subjective identity claims. Why do you hate and disrespect women so much?
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@markusbaker1161 Why would you advocate that men should be able to infiltrate the private spaces of women, like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? How is that demonstrating any respect or consideration for women or their rights?? You keep on dodging, ducking, dipping, and diving away from answering the questions.
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@markusbaker1161 You need better material. I recognize that they're misgendering themselves. There are people. They are male or female. Segments of each present with various physical and psych disorders-- Some with both. Why should men (regardless of you categorizing them as transgender or renaming them Trans-women or Cupcake)-- they're still men, be granted access to women's private spaces, based on their subjective identity claims, which aren't validated by objective reality?? Nothing still? Shocker... 🙄 If your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must validate and affirm your identity, contrary to objective reality-- Than your identity is not valid.
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@markusbaker1161 You're a woman hater. Your comments are less than useless
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@markusbaker1161 There's no need; You already have, to my satisfaction. You may go now
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@markusbaker1161 I haven't what?
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@markusbaker1161 Your failure to recognize that I said "YOU" proved it to my satisfaction, shows that you're just not paying attention
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@Maksie0 The Lady's room is reserved for females. Try to follow the bouncing ball back to the men's room dear
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@Malana84 I'm aware. They aren't trans anything. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Those dudes weren't and will never be any kind of woman
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@Maksie0 Wrong... Totally Wrong troll bot
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There is no limit to the level of self-centered narcissism of these mentally delusional people
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@clajil_cla It definitely offends those who possess a functional moral compass
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1 Million upvotes
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Nope... Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female respectively. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@Maksie0 What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, costumes, or preferences. That you can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's your inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you wished they were.
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That dude is nutz
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Dude w/ a psych disorder
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@Maksie0 Prove it
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2 genders... That all. They're not "trans" anything. Still Human, Still Male or Female, as they were when they were born, respectively -- just now with what amounts to an elaborate disguise in the gender binary-- more akin to a drag queen, or cosplay with a dash of psych disorder.
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@Maksie0 No-- they're dudes
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@Maksie0 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Regardless of the facts, your irrational thought process, apparently doesn't afford you the capacity to come to intelligent conclusions.
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@Maksie0 No, that's entirely incorrect. You continue to conflate gender with personality, despite them not being synonymous. Get a clue
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That dude is a psych case and is intellectually bankrupt as well, apparently
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Better still, use the correct restroom. If you are a male you will always be a male, so stay out of women's private spaces
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Gender (There are 2 male/female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. They get it totally wrong on gender. Then, they conflate personality traits and temperament-- neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate males with females and men with women. Ya-- it's incoherent madness on their part
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@agoutianimations4728 You believe a predator will respect trans restrooms, or would it be a beacon?
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@markusbaker1161 Stop talking... You already said you don't care what I have to say. Be Gone
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@markusbaker1161 Nope. You refuse to answer me, you don't get to expect answers from me, now. Ask what they meant when they posted, "I agree as a trans person, although it is sad that we even have to do that i feel its necessary for safety from potentially predators". Who are the predators they're referring to?
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@markusbaker1161 Be curious
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@markusbaker1161 Perhaps you'll learn about their disconnect from objective reality and that their claims are based in fiction, and not substantiated in reality. Any subjective identity, predicted on the notion that all of society must affirm it, contrary to objective reality-- is totally invalid
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 @markusbaker1161 One doesn't need to be a doctor to discern the difference between males and females. Get a clue
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@markusbaker1161 Tell me, why should a male, who "needs help with their mental health" be granted access to female's private spaces like dressing rooms, locker rooms, sports teams, restrooms and prisons?
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Cope harder
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They inappropriately conflate personality and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive evidenced by effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous-- and they are not. Then, they conflate gender with gender roles. Then they conflate males with females.
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Wanting to be a different gender doesn't change reality. The 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female. If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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@Maksie0 There is only one kind of woman, and they're all born female-- which eliminates the relevance of the trans/cis distinction. You need better material
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They're LARPing
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Keep it away from kids
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They should leave the parenting to the parents
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@markusbaker1161 I did take my own advice, and raise my own. What are you referring to?
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@markusbaker1161 The majority agree with me, not you
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@markusbaker1161 Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 There's no hate in recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim to present as. It just makes me observant
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@markusbaker1161 It makes me discerning
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@markusbaker1161 No, I don't. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. Chopping off body parts doesn't change one's sex/gender
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@markusbaker1161 By realizing they're male or female, respectively-- not trans anything. Same as they ever were. Now in terms of psych issues: According to a Swedish study, Long-term follow-up of transsexual persons undergoing sex reassignment surgery: cohort study in Sweden "Conclusions: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, sui***al behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."
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@markusbaker1161 2 genders my friend. They're male or female, and that doesn't change. At BEST they're female impersonators, and at worst-- they're still female impersonators.
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@markusbaker1161 No, that's not what I meant. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Personality traits, and temperament are not synonymous with gender. Intersex isn't another sex/gender in the binary. It's an extremely rare biological disorder and they only ever present with male or female genitalia, none with both sex organs fully functional.
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@glassesyouneed6876 Mainly because they exposed the incoherence of your narrative, making you look like toddlers debating scholars
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@glassesyouneed6876 I'd prefer, if people are going to talk to me, that they do it intelligently-- BUT that's clearly not the case here.
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@Maksie0 Only in Fantasyland
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Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior traits. I mean... C'mon now. It's ludicrous
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People like you, fail to grasp the fact that the vast majority of kids in the foster system aren't newborn's . They're in there because their parents are having custody issues through the court system for various reasons. There's nothing phobic, about realizing that a dude in a dress isn't that which they claim to be. That just makes people observant. Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@jessicap.8114 If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid.
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@maximeminassian6002 There's only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female, making the use of cis/trans intellectually vacant and useless.
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@marnellkeller6959 They are propagandists, and agent provocateurs who are aware that they're making a spectacle of themselves, pushing an agenda. The problem they have, is that life is based in objective reality and their incoherent claims and imaginations don't override the vast majority of people's ability to discern the difference between reality and their subjective imaginary wish that life was different.
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@wiggeltje It's intellectually stunted to suggest that there's another kind of woman, other than those born female
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@Maksie0 No they aren't. There are males and females. That's it! Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct. She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals specifically humans. Now you know
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How do you explain the increase in teen pregnancies since sex ed in school has increased exponentially over the last couple of decades, if what you assert were true and correct?
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@lil_frappuccino205 I haven't flagged any of your comments. Back in 1960, most teen mothers - an estimated 85% - were married. Today, the majority of teen births (89%) are to unmarried mothers. Looks like a problem w/ sex ed making a positive impact to me. And that's not even touching on the @b0rti0n stats
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@lil_frappuccino205 The point is if sex ed were working well-- those girls wouldn't be getting themselves pregnant. The relevant point seems to be lost on you
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@lil_frappuccino205 The stats show the percentage shrinking, but the numbers are so inappropriately high that in the internet age, where there's no shortage of info access-- it certainly isn't working well
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@Maksie0 They're men
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@markusbaker1161 What relevant point are you trying to make about those dudes?
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@markusbaker1161 That they're men, and changing what you call them doesn't change that.
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@markusbaker1161 No, that's wrong. Gender isn't a social construct. Gender roles-- like those presenting as 'trans', are the social constructs. That you have difficulty deciphering the difference changes nothing.
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@markusbaker1161 The 'because you said so' standard is rejected firstly because you're wrong, and secondly for lacking any credibility and the reason was already cited. You've Again-- refuted nothing.
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@markusbaker1161 No it isn't. Your silliness is rejected. Get used to it.
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@markusbaker1161 You have the rite to be wrong. It's ok... You can blame your ignorance
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@markusbaker1161 Gender and sex aren't disconnected. Gender is NOT a social construct. Gender roles are the social constructs and they're well-established, which is why the counter-culture trans-narrative is itself the real construct and you seem unable to process that distinction. Your inability to process the truth of it, doesn't invalidate the truth. We're not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe, or cater to feelings. NO! Just... No They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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@justyana488 It's not a negotiation. I'll continue to recognize and discern the difference between your subjective fantasy and objective reality. How you feel about it changes nothing
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@killa4sho313 100 up votes. And, they never will be women.
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@xtalfinn Clearly, Not the point but -- okay. Considering that restrooms are designed and implemented based on objective biology, not subjective identity, a man's intent isn't a basis for endorsing the idea of granting them access to women's private spaces, based on their subjective claims of an internal feeling or self-perception. I don't see it as justifiable
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@markusbaker1161 I get that you believe sex and gender are separate. How does that justify biological males being allowed in biological females private spaces??? What is the logic and rational behind it?
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@markusbaker1161 My question is specifically about why you believe what those whom you believe are peddling. There are doctors around the world who don't agree with those whom you believe, so why do you believe the one's you're talking about, and not the others? Do you have any original thoughts on the matter, or are you following along in blind faith like a cult follower? What do you mean re: transgender people are valid? They're valid people, with a severe amount of confusion regarding their own existence in the body's they were born with their mental state being out of alignment with that. The treatment protocols are not universally accepted among medical professionals, but you choose to believe the activist doctors... Why is that?
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They are not that which they claim to be. It's pretty simple. They're not trans ANYTHING. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after. They're LARPing, at best
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Well, gender roles are social constructs directly related to being male or female, respectively. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. There's a not so subtle difference there that matters. If your identity relies on the participation of others denying objective reality-- then that identity is not valid.
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@justyana488 Why would someone who believes they're a woman, wish to have the 'trans' distinction drawn? That's Extremely Odd
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@justyana488 Oh stop it. That's not an answer to an honest question. They're gender pretenders. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do
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If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males like Blossom, have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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@dilnasssssss Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh There's a prerequisite to being a woman and that's being born female-- and those dudes weren't
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@jamelmcmillian2557 There is exactly ZERO science showing men can become women, or vice versa. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman, and that's being born female-- and those dudes weren't. You seem to be conflating personality with gender, but they're not synonymous.
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Gender-- There are 2 male and female. They conflate personality with gender, gender with gender roles, male with female, men with women, and objective reality with subjective fiction. There is only one kind of woman, and they're all born female
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You and MANY others are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) with 'Gender'. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect, Psych Disorder-- That's it!
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@conor.3875 It's a fact. Cope harder, and seethe if you must.
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@conor.3875 Yes, you and your talking points are VERY
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@ElanaVital83 *He
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@ElanaVital83 You're a rebel. Nonetheless-- it's improper use of grammar to refer to a male as she. That's literally misgendering him
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@ElanaVital83 No doubt, you're free to participate in the cosplay-- but make no mistake, it is LARPing
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@Maksie0 Your statement just doesn't withstand the scrutiny. What people exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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Quit conflating gender with personality and temperament. They're not synonymous
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@aaralyn6710 Intersex isn't a 3rd gender. They only ever present with male or female biology. There's no such thing as trans women. That's just another word you use to describe confused men, who cosplay and LARP portraying the stereotype of a caricature of a female. There are only males and females, which is why using the cis prefix is entirely nonsensical
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@mariec3733 You're born male or female, respectively-- and that state is fixed and permanent. Cope Harder
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@Maksie0 What a load of crap. There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women, illustrating that your narrative is a totally bogus faith-based belief with zero evidence to support your claim that trans women are women. Checkmate / You lost
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@Maksie0 Wrong again. It cuts through the nonsense and gets straight to the point.
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@markusbaker1161 You don't have any standing or any coherent thoughts which stand up to scrutiny. You lost... Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not playing for points. I am correct and you are not. Your refutation is irrelevant and contains ZERO proof that men can become women and/or vice versa-- making your entire argument bogus and void-- free from integrity. ta ta You lose
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@markusbaker1161 I already won. Until someone proves that men can become women-- there's no debate, so my statements stand. See ya
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 @markusbaker1161 My statement still stands, regardless of your admission to a comprehension deficit
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@markusbaker1161 Men cannot become women. Learn it. Know it.
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@markusbaker1161 Nope... Wrong Again. They only alter their appearance. They're not transitioning into another sex. It's cosplay and LARPing taken to the extreme
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@markusbaker1161 No, they aren't. Prancing around-- LARPing and engaging in cosplay doesn't transform anyone's gender. That you think it does, shows that you have no clue
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@markusbaker1161 No, they're not... Those men prancing around pretending they're something they're not are exactly what I've said they are. Those men, are still men, regardless of how effeminate their personalities are, regardless of their attire, or how radically they surgically alter their appearance. -- Still men. There are people and they are male or female-- that's it. Their personality doesn't change their gender. Gender is fixed and limited to the binary of male and female.
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@markusbaker1161 If you listen really closely, you can hear that in reality-- men and women everywhere are recognizing, calling out and rejecting your incoherent trans ideological madness. Don't believe me... Ask Budweiser
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@Maksie0 How do you figure, since he's a male???
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@Maksie0 Because accountability must be avoided at all costs for you?
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@AloGaelle The power of observation. That dude is a dude-- and will always be a dude
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And prisons, dressing rooms, sports leagues and sports teams too?
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@mariec3733 Men and women already have designated restrooms, prisons, dressing rooms, locker rooms and individual gender neutral restrooms already exist. Better therapy protocols, and a more stringent control on the ethics of therapists seems like the obvious place to start re: solutions. More asylums is another solution. Happy to help
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@mariec3733 By gender neutral, I mean one toilet, one user at a time either male or female. I'm not addressing the sort of restrooms you'd find in a stadium, or convention center where it can accommodate multiple users simultaneously.
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@mariec3733 Well, people prone to self harm should be looked after, for their own protection and the protection of others
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@mariec3733 I recommend you cure your ignorance and do some research on the trans community and their rate of self-deletion compared to the rest of society-- even after therapy and surgery being nearly 10x's higher. NOT a screaming endorsement for successful treatment as far as I'm concerned.
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@markusbaker1161 F-Off... Don't be lazy. Don't take my word for it. Do some research
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@nopi-exe The truth is that the 1 requirement for being woman is being female. The failure to acknowledge it, changes nothing. If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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These delusional living memes illustrate the need for more asylums
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@teddy_needs.sleep9 You know it's true
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Ya, so many are confused about basic objective reality. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@mr.mclibtard5015 They're delusional, self-entitled narcissists
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@mariec3733 People, for millennia-- haven't had difficulty deciphering the differences between males and females. What's your excuse for your confusion?
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Oh C'mon... That dude has issues.
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@markusbaker1161 My issue is that I can discern fantasy from reality, unlike you-- apparently
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not trying to assist them w/ their psych issues. That's their therapists job. I'm just observing that they are not that which they claim to be. There's not hate or animosity in that... It just makes me observant. My position has been made clear to you several times now, and here you are acting as though it hasn't. These dudes like Blossom are the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@markusbaker1161 I'm merely observing that they are not that which they claim to be
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@evilforeskin He is misgendering himself. He will never be a she
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Fraudulent identities aren't valid anywhere
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@conor.3875 Not if it was a men's restroom, where he belongs in the 1st place
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@conor.3875 So?
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@conor.3875 Back at ya
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They're merely caricatures of what they wish they were, and can never be
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Their shoe size dwarfs their IQ, and when you couple that with the fact that he's suffering from some major psych issues-- intelligent analysis shouldn't be expected. That dude is a caricature of himself
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It's a form of gender expression. They're men
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@R L Not much of a refutation junior. Kick Rocks
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@SriSrinivasable 😏
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@R L Your failure to comprehend my response, and answer is noted.
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@R L I wondered if your, 'if it bugs you, grow up' standard should be the response to someone's pronoun preference, ex. a trans-human should look forward to from you, because their perception of themself isn't recognized or shared by you. If yes, you must be fondly referred to as Karen. If no, you're a hypocrite
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@R L Ok, so you're a hypocrite. Thanks for the clarification. Grow up re: respecting people's pronouns not ok... grow up for preference regarding cis pronoun = grow up 🙄
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@R L "Grow up" for preference regarding cis pronoun, but Respect for trans pronoun preference = Hypocrite That's how
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@R L The prefix "cis" in chemistry stands for "within [the norm]" and "trans" means "outside [the norm]. In medical contexts, CIS usually means carcinoma in situ. Carcinoma in situ (CIS) is a group of abnormal cells. Adding cis as a prefix to a straight person is redundant at best
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@R L Are you a phone scammer too? Men cannot become women and vice versa. Deal with it
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@R L Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent woke ideology, as in their near distant future they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men who will claim they're women-- and the feminists don't even see it coming
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There is no fixing that mess. It's nonsensical incoherent bull 💩 from start to finish. You hear that sound??? That's the sound of women and men rejecting the incoherent ideological narrative. They better get used to it
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@markusbaker1161 Me too. What's your point?
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@markusbaker1161 What rights are you referring to?
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@markusbaker1161 Are they different somehow than human rights?
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@markusbaker1161 Then, they're not being deprived of any rights, so It's a non-issue, and changing the term is clearly a silly, redundant distinction
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@markusbaker1161 Which rights would those be? Face it... Being trans is the construct, based in fantasy. Cope Harder
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Cope Harder.
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@gabby.iscool All women are born female, all men are born male and neither are a social construct, fetish, feeling or costume. Now you know better.
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@Draco19970125 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and relates to the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. The ideology is incoherent. They get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender with personality traits and temperament as though they're synonymous-- and they are not. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate males with females.
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President Dwayne, Alizondo, Mountain-Dew, Camacho or a James Brown impersonator?
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@justonetime6179 Actually, they're born female infants. A woman is an adult
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When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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@jilliank6633 No, I am not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent
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@lixbians Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male and female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories in the binary of all mammalian species--which are fixed and permanent. You appear to be inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@lixbians What's sad-- though not uncommon or unexpected is that my replies are being censored, Illustrating the lack of integrity of those who would hide away from refuting my comments.
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@lixbians Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people-- who don't live in reality about there being two genders. They can have a surgeon alter their appearance and prescribe hormones to make them appear like a Klingon from Star Trek, but it doesn't make them an actual Klingon, and those who would believe it does-- are delusional.
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Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh
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@CYRUSX1 I agree, but that isn't a she. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female, and he wasn't
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@Maksie0 You're talking in circles... Trans women are women who are trans?? And women who are trans, are also trans men?? And Trans men are men who are trans?? And men who are trans, are also trans women? So, trans women are also trans men? You're extremely confused about life
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@Maksie0 Me? I'm not confused at all about the fact that humans come in 2 varieties-- (Male and Female), or about that state being fixed and permanent. YOU, on the other hand, seem VERY confused and angry about that. I don't promote violence against anyone. Stop lying. You're the one resorting to name calling and incoherent messaging, and when asked for clarification, you bring nothing to the conversation, but attacks. I like driving, but not with too much traffic, or you can't drive fast. It isn't as fun.
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Their cult terminology doesn't affect reality in the slightest. Trans women are men with issues prancing around as though they're women without issues-- Still men Blossom's anti-social interpersonal cries for negative attention, are not earning him any acceptance or compassion. They're just him, making a spectacle of himself, causing the divide his community alleges they wish to bridge.
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@Maksie0 The truth is that the 1 requirement for being woman is being female. The failure to acknowledge it, changes nothing. If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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If one's identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must affirm your self-perceived identity, in defiance of objective reality-- then that identity is invalid. It's really that simple. Gender and sex aren't disconnected, they're intrinsically linked-- and too many are failing to realize that gender isn't the social construct, rather gender roles are the construct, and so too are trans-cultists ideological narratives constructs, just based in lunacy.
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@markusbaker1161 🤡🌎
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@markusbaker1161 Grow up
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@markusbaker1161 Congratulations
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@markusbaker1161 No worries. You do you. I'm not going to ignore what I can observe with my own eyes, and promote make believe, or cater to feelings by pretending that the identity of people who identify as something they're not in reality, is valid. They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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@markusbaker1161 A chance? A chance to do what?
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@markusbaker1161 :face-green-smiling:What evidence are you relying on which suggests that, "giving the benefit of the doubt to those people who may be different from me a chance" will eliminate potential discrimination? Pure nonsense
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@markusbaker1161 uh huh... 🤭
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@markusbaker1161 No doubt
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@markusbaker1161 Your desperate efforts to gain my attention is SO cringe.
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@markusbaker1161 Got it! You're cringe without even having to try
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@markusbaker1161 No doubt... That would require an upstanding character, made possible by a functioning moral compass.
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@markusbaker1161 Nope. Just observations. Prove I'm incorrect, or you're the liar. They're still men and will always be men, regardless of their elaborate efforts to alter their appearance to be more like women
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@markusbaker1161 Your absence of integrity, evading answering questions, and no evidence whatsoever of a coherent argument anywhere to be found-- is uncanny. Your agenda is twisted. They're still men
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@markusbaker1161 Your satisfaction is not guaranteed, nor relevant. Life isn't fair, and your willingness to avoid the truth doesn't invalidate the truth that men can't become women
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@markusbaker1161 The burden of proof is on those who promote the trans-ideology's claims as being true and correct. You skipped step 1
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@markusbaker1161 No I don't. This video's content is the proof. Your approval isn't required, and your failure to acknowledge it changes nothing
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@markusbaker1161 My comments stand, and as they are they're still not yet refuted by you or anyone else; meaning-- I don't require a defense for facts and truth.
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@markusbaker1161 You want me to prove a negative? Get a grip.
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@Maksie0 Which rights?
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@Maksie0 Source??
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How about no... It's not the worlds job to deny objective reality and participate in the LARP and cosplay, as though it is based in reality. All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference or a costume
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*He
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@Maksie0 No dipshit, women are adult human females and trans women aren't that. Women who are trans are trans men. Get it straight
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@Maksie0 trans ladies 1st
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@scarlettdavis9336 How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition, and are then considered "rational"?
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Define the 'Neutral point'. Is it, live and let live and celebrate them self mutilating and removing themselves from the gene pool? or What???
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@zaadus2 Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense, and madness
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@KindlyKalen There's no fear in recognizing that someone is not that which they portray themselves. That's just being observant. Cope Harder Just remember, when you think things are against you-- it's probably You, and the world doesn't owe you acceptance. If You want to integrate into society-- then remember that it's YOU, who needs to adapt. To insist that society must play along with your counter-culture position-- makes you seem arrogant, narcissistic, self-entitled and ridiculous. You're not the center of the universe and the world isn't going to reorganize itself to accommodate your subjective feelings, contrary to objective reality. You need to develop better coping mechanisms to deal with adversity, because not everyone is going to like you, or be accommodating.
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Yes... It's incoherent madness, which doesn't stand up to scrutiny which rules their emotionally unstable perception of reality.
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That dude isn't any kind of woman. That dude is unhinged from reality. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the use of Cis/Trans totally irrelevant and useless.
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@Maksie0 Not trans is the point
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@technoloverish Personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender, but they're being conflated-- as though they think they are. That's making them VERY much more confused than they already are. Sex and gender aren't disconnected-- they're intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively.
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If gender is fluid, why the need to change at all??? It's crazy
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@Maksie0 Not much in the way of proving her incorrect-- Still choosing to guarantee your irrelevance, it seems.
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@mariec3733 No it isn't. They're a fringe minority. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@mariec3733 Pretending to be something other than what you are doesn't make you that in reality. Too bad, so sad-- Not People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and prior. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules, it has nothing to do with gender.
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Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. They're intrinsically linked and are not disconnected. A dissociative state is by definition delusional. You'd learn that in a psych class to if you actually took one.
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@conor.3875 Like I said, that's the sound of rejection. You better get used to it
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@conor.3875 Back at ya, while you promote the incoherent trans-activist, cult narrative.
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@conor.3875 You engage in argument for sport, so I'll take your projection to mean that YOU'RE lonely. Countering the intellectually vacant, trans-activist, cult narratives, comments, etc., so that others who are reading can consider, research and verify the info I present for themselves.
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Truth is, whether it's observed, understood, described or not-- but it is clearly misunderstood by those with deficient mental and intellectual capacity
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She's not wrong, and isn't being refuted by you here
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They can... The problem they have is, they are effectively choosing to call an apple an orange, as though it will somehow make an impact on the nature of the apple or the orange-- even though it doesn't. The entire ideological narrative is incoherent m@dness
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@violet_rush Now THAT would've been hilariously unlady-like
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@Maksie0 Science isn't a consensus. It's a means of study. How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@Maksie0 Do you know what a woman is?
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Doesn't matter. XX you're female. XY-- you're male. No body cares about your thoughts on s3x or gender
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They aren't 'trans' ANYTHING. Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do
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When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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No one is trans. They're ALL still only males or females, respectively-- as they were when they were born. Changing what you call something doesn't change the thing. It only changes the name you're using.
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@markusbaker1161 In reality, people exist. They are male or female. Trans is a construct, which doesn't alter reality. Take your time to process that fact
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No, they shouldn't
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Quit conflating gender with personality and gender roles as though they're synonymous. They aren't
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@jasmynnmaleah7553 How so? It's a debate topic. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They appear to be misgendering themselves. How are they not?
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@jasmynnmaleah7553 Why? Because I recognize that they are not that which they present themselves as, and I'm not willing to pretend I don't? That just makes me observant. I'm not addressing how I feel about them misgendering themselves, in the form of gender misappropriation of women. I figure, woe to the feminists who buy into this ideological narrative-- as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim to be women, and they don't see it coming. The cis prefix, that was being objected to, wasn't met with respect, so how should they then demand respect? Respect is earned, and is reserved for that which is respectable
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@markusbaker1161 Why are you acting like a pro-fascism activist, trying to shut down conversation? Better to make your case effectively
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@markusbaker1161 No worries. I'm not trying to persuade you to accept that men cannot become women and vice versa. If you can't assimilate that info-- It's a YOU problem, not a Me problem
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@batlover1977 All women are born female,. all men are born male and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference or a costume. Trans men are women with issues prancing around as though they're men without issues-- still women
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@melthegoth9132 Women already know this, making the insistence on using the prefix entirely redundant. It's used as a slur
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They're misgendering themselves. They aren't that which they claim to be. They're LARPing at best
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How about devout Muslims vs trans-Muslims (Is that even a thing?)
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@rustyshackleford7656 :face-blue-smiling:🤣😂😆
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Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh
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They're not equal. One is based in fact,the other is based in fantasy
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@MathewSteeleAtheology People are male or female, respectively. You appear to be inappropriately conflating the variability of temperament and personality traits (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence butch females, effeminate males and tomboys) as though they're synonymous with gender-- and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively.
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@MathewSteeleAtheology If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. There's 1 prerequisite to being a woman and that actually being a female. trans-women aren't THAT That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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@MathewSteeleAtheology Nonetheless-- the mainstream trans-activist narrative does make that ludicrous claim, among others-- just as ridiculous. You made a point to talk bout science. Well, there are males and females according to science. Segments of each suffer with physical disorders, some with psych disorders and some with both, none of which invalidate the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species.
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It looks like they still haven't figured out that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender yet. Trans women ARE men. They aren't trans Anything. They're merely caricatures of that which they will never be-- Women
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@baitboyzlifestyle3981 Genderpretenders
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@markusbaker1161 That's what I said. Those men, who you're calling transgender, have no business being granted access to women's private spaces.
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@markusbaker1161 It isn't calling them women, that for sure
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@markusbaker1161 No, it does not
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@markusbaker1161 No, it doesn't. Repeating your cult mantra is fine, but it isn't going to make you correct, no matter how many more times you repeat it
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@markusbaker1161 You conflate science with science-fiction. Your opinion is useless
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@markusbaker1161 Cite the source
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@markusbaker1161 The one's that proves that those who you're referring to as 'trans-women', are not biological males.
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@markusbaker1161 Dissociative disorders involve problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self-- so if you're not talking about biology-- then by default you're addressing dissociative disorders. How are you not?
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@markusbaker1161 The biology is already established, validating my statements. The psych science validates my statements as well. Dissociative disorders are clearly defined as those involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self.
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@markusbaker1161 Nothing you've stated has invalidated anything I've written
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@Maksie0 No, cis is rejected and is irrelevant, as there is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female.
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@thankyouforbeingafriend9632 Yes... Trans women are men with issues, pretending that they're women without issues. Affirmation-based treatment protocols resembles able-ism-- like an identical twin resembles their sibling
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They're full of contradictions
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@Maksie0 Reality that women are all born female and all men are born male vs Delusional fantasy... There is no contest.
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Evidence??
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Once a dude, always a dude. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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There is only 1 kind of woman, and she's born female. Delusional men vs women
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@barrybarbella817 They're still men... Just-- with psych issues and a quirky fashion sense
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That dude is unhinged from reality
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@markusbaker1161 Think deeper thoughts. The point is drag queens, cross dressers, and trans women are all men
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@markusbaker1161 How cute. You think saying that makes it so... It doesn't. Women aren't a social construct.
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@markusbaker1161 What's your point, that it doesn't make those men something other than men because they identify as other than men???
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@markusbaker1161 I've already made my point. Your confusion about it is a you problem
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@markusbaker1161 What's it matter to you?
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@markusbaker1161 I don't care if you think so... They're not
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@markusbaker1161 Your self perceived gender identity confusion doesn't alter your biology, or obligate anyone else to participate in your cosplay and LARPing
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@markusbaker1161 Don't care. I identify as someone who doesn't have to participate in the madness. Your feelings don't matter
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@markusbaker1161 I don't care what stories you tell yourself. No one credible has validated that prop@g@nd@ you're spewing
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@markusbaker1161 You didn't try... Looks like you were wrong about that too
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@markusbaker1161 You're peddling their talking points. If you can't articulate why you think their narratives are correct-- you're a sheep
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@markusbaker1161 No, you aren't
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@markusbaker1161 There's no evidence of intelligent thought in any of your comments. That doesn't affect me.
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@markusbaker1161 You conflate social constructs with biology, when you say trans women are women. It's patently absurd and totally incorrect.
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@markusbaker1161 Yes you do. Women aren't social constructs, they're adult, human, females, so saying that trans women are women-- is wrong. Your cult narrative is rejected
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@markusbaker1161 trans women are not adult, human, females. Your statement is patently false
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More than 1
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@aaralyn6710 No you wouldn't-- or you'd look it up and verify for yourself
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@aaralyn6710 And yet-- you haven't. Get real
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@littlesunshine4591 Nothing that invalidates the fact that men can't become women
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@littlesunshine4591 So, you missed my point. shocker
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He didn't change his gender. He only altered his appearance. Don't do-- as they do, and conflate gender with gender roles, gender w/ personality and temperament, science with science-fiction, or fact with fiction.
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@amani7753 Don't conflate personality traits and temperament with gender or gender roles as though they're synonymous. They are not. One's subjective identity, in contrast to objective reality isn't valid.
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@markusbaker1161 Oh-- okay
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@markusbaker1161 I'm Not indulging you any longer. Competent adults do their own research to confirm information for themselves. i reject your narratives-- and am not interested in indulging your intellectual diarrhea any longer. You've gone out of your way to be an insufferable twat-- so expecting integrity from you is not logical nor reasonable. You fail to make your case. Deal with it and move on. Your opinion has proven to be without value, and substance-free
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@markusbaker1161 How cute... You think you're in charge running an interrogation and I owe you something. Get real
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not writing or submitting a peer reviewed paper and am not trying to prove anything. It's my opinion that the results of affirmation based therapy are horrendous, evidenced by the stats on that demographic's self-deletion-- even after therapy. If you think the results are fine. Okay... Based on what? A quick internet search on the stats should yield results easily, and if I'm incorrect you could easily show that-- but I'm correct, so you can't. buh bye then
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@markusbaker1161 If you're really interested. Look it up. I refuse to indulge you
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@markusbaker1161 HAHA... Sucks to be you. I don't answer to you. If you can't handle the challenge to prove me incorrect by doing some easy research, you lose. Pretty simple
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@markusbaker1161 That's wrong. It'd be easy for a competent adult to prove me wrong, if I was incorrect-- but you can't, because I'm not. Pretty simple really
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@markusbaker1161 Oh please... I refuse to indulge your idiocy. You started it, when you made the claim that trans women are women. You didn't prove that. I showed that to be incorrect. Cry louder
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@markusbaker1161 If you want to pretend that men are women-- Go for it. They're not, but-- go for it. You're only fooling yourself
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That's all you got from that? wow... Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally, not dissimilar to someone in drag. The why isn't the point.
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@AAARRTTTT Pretty sure if that were true, their self-delete rates would be the same as the general population, but they aren't because normal, well-adjusted people don't typically self delete
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@serg3209 🎯
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@Maksie0 Ya, pointing out your idi0cy all along the way
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@Nanajsiuz Gaslight harder
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@Maksie0 Perspective is a wonderful thing. How many? What percentage?
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They're merely caricatures of that which they wish they were, and will never be. It looks like they still haven't figured out that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender yet. That's the root of their confusion
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The point, no doubt being to draw the distinction that they are in fact actually women, and the others are Not?
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@gentlemanfox1326 In the future, I recommend being relevant, as opposed to your chosen course
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@gentlemanfox1326 Islamophobe
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@fable_enthusiast I hate to break it to you, but there is only 1 kind of woman and as it turns out, she's born female-- and those dudes weren't
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@fable_enthusiast Your description is of your own mindset and capacity for reason, or the lack thereof, after being made aware that there is only 1 kind of woman, and that they're all born female. Learn it... Know it
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@markusbaker1161 Self preservation
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@markusbaker1161 the freaks
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@markusbaker1161 Apparently... Those men, aka trans women-- have an issue with women's privacy and gaining access to their toilets.
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@markusbaker1161 Of course not. Nonetheless, they have no business in the women's room. They're men
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@markusbaker1161 No, pretending those men have any business in women's private spaces-- based on the notion that they're women too-- to justify them being granted access, is the made up nonsense.
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@markusbaker1161 Pretending you're unaware of actual accounts doesn't erase those cases or invalidate them in any way. It only serves to eliminate any credibility you may have had, otherwise-- as it makes you appear disingenuous.
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@markusbaker1161 Again, You misunderstand. I merely recognize the reports, which address the court cases and the verdicts rendered. That you're unaware is a YOU problem
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@markusbaker1161 No, I'm okay with you remaining ignorant. Framing the narrative the way you have is absent of any integrity, and shows that you're disingenuous and foolish
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@markusbaker1161 You have established that you have comprehension challenges, when it comes to definitions, deciphering fact from fiction, and most notably deciphering the differences between men and women and coming to terms with the fact that biological reality isn't subject to change because of alterations in terminology. ex. The definition of gender: Gender refers to the sex assigned/observed at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. The social aspects of being male or female are socially constructed, and they're well-established since the dawn of time. That you wish to close your eyes to the facts, or protest about them-- change nothing.
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@markusbaker1161 I have established that you have no regard for women or their rights.
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@markusbaker1161 Your comments are the proof. Trans women are a social construct, in no way altering objective biological reality that they're men. Your unwillingness to admit it-- doesn't invalidate the truth of it
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@markusbaker1161 You should consult your physician about having your head removed from your backside. Facts and the truth that trans women are men triggers you, so you don't know what to make of it or how to act like an intelligent adult. No worries. The problem is yours
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@markusbaker1161 Yup, you're triggered. Look if you want to indulge the transgender 'community', nothing is stopping you. Your screeching over preferred speech by others, shows you’re so full of yourself that you think all other people must/should/need to-- participate in your cosplay/LARPing and cult terminology to make you feel alright, as if your blessing is worth something to the rest of the world. Total narcissism from you. I respond, so others reading can get the other side of the argument for their consideration. It's not about you at all If your identity/personal feelings is/are predicated on the notion that all of society must perceive you, as you perceive yourself-- contrary to objective reality then NO, your identity is not valid at all, except in your imagination.
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@markusbaker1161 :face-blue-smiling::face-green-smiling: That makes the term 'transphobia' impotent and totally useless. Like you no doubt
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@markusbaker1161 If you want to pretend those dudes are women, by calling them trans women-- go for it. Doesn't change reality If you want to acknowledge they're dudes presenting as women, and choose to refer to them as trans women, and choose to date them-- go for it. There's no stigma to being gay.
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@markusbaker1161 Your argument is fatally flawed, as is your logic. You just said,in the other thread that Trans "feelings aren't facts". Therefore the people who exist are male or female, not trans ANYTHING. Their feelings aren't facts invalidating the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species. Make the case for why someone who's XY should be considered XX (As would necessarily be the case, to substantiate the statement that trans women are women) or trans XX. Ready??? Go... Make it make sense 🦗🦗
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@markusbaker1161 Then quit asking for responses to the same intellectually stunted questions and comments you've been making. You can't make the trans activist narrative make sense, because it's insane
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@markusbaker1161 Ooh-- Irony. I did take my own advice and raised my own. Now, off you go take your own advise and mind your business. I told you-- I'm not interested in anything you have to say, unless it's an explanation as to why you believe those who you're putting your faith in, are correct, when their peers have articulated why they have issues with the conclusions, treatment protocols, and outcomes of their treatment. Why do you dismiss the opposing medical experts and professional's assessment and their reasoning?
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@markusbaker1161 You're a m0r0n
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@markusbaker1161 Exactly correct
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@markusbaker1161 Your failure to comprehend the answer is a YOU problem. You come near family or friend's kids-- you're getting what's coming to you
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@markusbaker1161 It wasn't a threat. It's a prediction. I don't hate people-- regardless of your claims to the contrary
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@markusbaker1161 You can't seem to stay away from me, leaving it at us agreeing to disagree. That's a clear demonstration of your hate
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@markusbaker1161 Yup 1 of 1 original. I told you, I support info that makes sense to me. Those medical expert professionals who oppose the ethics, treatment protocols, and horrible outcomes of those in whom you put your faith, have documented their reasons, and rational-- and they make more sense to me than those you believe-- who profit off the misery of others. You can't seem to accept that I told you we'll have to agree to disagree
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@markusbaker1161 Being 1 of 1 is what makes me special. It seems trans is more fringe than not, in all of world history. :person-turqouise-waving:
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@markusbaker1161 Okay, me too-- But, the one's who oppose your purported "experts" and for their reasoning and analysis which isn't incoherent nonsense.
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MOST are not
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The thing is, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@Maksie0 The prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. Your inability to process that indicates you're kinda slow. . The only ones fooled are you and yours-- which are the vast vast minority.
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@Maksie0 Really?? If the capacity to process blatantly obvious eludes you-- then, life will prove to remain a challenge
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How is that implemented in stadiums, convention centers, and prisons-- where the restrooms must accommodate more than 1 individual at a time. It isn't very practical
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It looks like they still haven't figured out that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender yet. That's the root of their confusion
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@conor.3875 If You want to integrate into society-- then remember that it's YOU, who needs to adapt, not the majority who reject your LARP and cosplay. To insist that society must play along with your counter-culture position-- makes you seem arrogant, narcissistic, self-entitled and ridiculous. You're not the center of the universe and the world isn't going to reorganize itself to accommodate your subjective feelings, contrary to objective reality. You need to develop better coping mechanisms to deal with adversity, because not everyone is going to like you, or be accommodating. Now, YOU know
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@Maksie0 I don't incorrectly use grammar to misgender males, by referring to them as any kind of woman. Like I said, there is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female. Update your knowledge.
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@Milo-nr9kc The answer to your question is, Yes-- they're still males. I already told you, "The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay" Looks like a lot of people still haven't figured out that gender in not synonymous with personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) yet, they appear to inappropriately conflating them as though they are
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@Maksie0 Your cult terminology is rejected. Cope harder
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@conor.3875 Women aren't the opposite of trans... Trans are the opposite of the standard of normalcy, making the cis prefix irrelevant and totally redundant
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@conor.3875 Bye... You don't matter
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@mariec3733 All that's possible is to alter their appearance. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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That dude is intellectually vacant and morally bankrupt
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"It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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The problem they have is the world is based in objective reality, and most don't have difficulty deciphering the difference between reality and the trans imagination.
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They can't accept their own reality, yet demand everyone accept their fantasy
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It's as though that was his actual role
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@markusbaker1161 Well, yes... Watching the video illustrates his lack of integrity, and interpersonal skills
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@markusbaker1161 You've refuted nothing whatsoever. Grow up
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, grow up. I get a notification, and I reply. I've been conducting my own research,gathering data on the arguments and the interactions of the advocates when challenged on their narratives and their ideology.
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@markusbaker1161 Never claimed to speak for anyone, but myself. The medical field is profiting off the psych disorders of those for whom you advocate affirmative care, on the psych front as well as the biological front. I question the ethics of that.
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@Maksie0 Yes, there is. It denigrates women by suggesting that there is another kind of woman other than those born female, and there isn't
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@Maksie0 Do you know what a woman is?
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A .45 would better prevent them from recidivism on another would be victim
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@Maksie0 GFY, gr00mer
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That wouldn't solve the dressing rooms, locker rooms, sports, sports teams or prisons issues.
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@Maksie0 Women are women-- regardless of how they self-identify, so using cis is redundant and none of anyone's concern but yours
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@markusbaker1161 It would be incorrect grammar and illustrate a lack of observational capacity and a lack of clarity-- on their part. Cope harder trans clown
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@markusbaker1161 That would be incorrect grammar
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@markusbaker1161 Monkeys can tell the difference between males and females. What's your excuse for your confusion on the matter? The prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. Your juvenile comments and inability to process facts indicates you're kinda slow. The only ones fooled are you trans clowns, and those quacks who affirm your LARPing and cosplay as being valid-- which are the vast vast minority.
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@markusbaker1161 That's because you're a m0r0n
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@markusbaker1161 No, it's because you fail to realize that they continue to reproduce because they know the differences. You're welcome
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@Maksie0 Anarchist
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@Maksie0 No it isn't. Criminals being segregated from society in prison is a great thing.
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@Mel-wn9gb And those who promote their madness as normal
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@mariec3733 Ya, science fiction and pseudo-science.
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@mariec3733 Even a monkey knows the difference between males and females. What's your excuse? Take a walk
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@markusbaker1161 The fact that they reproduce is sufficient proof
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@markusbaker1161 You've lost that bet too. Look there's no science anywhere that proves men can become women-- so your narrative is done.
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@markusbaker1161 There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women, illustrating that your narrative is a totally bogus faith-based belief with zero evidence to support your claim that trans women are women. Checkmate / You lost
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@markusbaker1161 Until you prove that men can become women-- your entire narrative remains bogus nonsense.
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@markusbaker1161 Nope. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female, and those dudes- regardless of how much they mutilate themselves-- will never be women
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Wokeism indoctrination
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Prison is for punishment for crimes. Put them with the men, where they belong
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ROFLMAO... It's gonna be a LONG wait
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@ghjiufdtgvnj What a load of garbage... Try to focus-- There's only one kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Men cannot become women.
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@@malaika777 Men are still oppressed all over the world too. Quit your whining
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Soon... Very Soon. They're noisy, but the push back they're generating from the vast majority is building momentum
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@Maksie0 I think I am a 1 of 1 original, who isn't conflating personality with gender; and I don't think most people are confused and buying into your incoherent cult narratives.
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What did he say that you thought was great?
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@user-le2hu1ct4t That dude is unhinged from reality. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Now you know better
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@Someone30056 There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. ZERO exceptions
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@C.C.tok3qwing *Him... That dude isn't a 'she'. ALL women are born female-- illustrating the use of cis/trans as intellectually vacant
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@computasaysnoo1 That's not hate. That's just being observant of reality vs the nonsensical madness that is promoted as though it were rational or reasonable. That's the sound of rejection by the vast majority of people-- of the cult narratives that the advocates and the ignorant cling to with intensity
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They have their own restrooms. They're called the Men's room
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Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. They aren't trans ANYTHING. Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent
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The entire basis of the trans narrative revolves around their identity being primarily about their sex. How does that confuse you??? Regarding people, they are male or female, respectively. That's it! They're incorrectly discussing and confusing personality traits (which are not gender exclusive) and gender roles, which again-- are roles related to being male or female, respectively, with gender. Gender, there are 2. Personality traits and temperament-- there are a ton of variety. They're not synonymous. Learn the differences
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@lifeoftalise4390 There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born females. The failure to comprehend that is at the root of much confusion. Cope and seethe harder if you like, but it doesn't change the fact that those dudes aren't women of any kind
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Cis/trans are attempts by radical ideologues to distract from the fact that there is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- and that all men are born male, with zero exceptions, so they can pretend that their LARP and cosplay is based in reality
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@brandyroberts5037 The incoherent arguments made by these activist f00ls doesn't withstand the scrutiny of those who call out their idi0cy for what it is
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@Maksie0 Why?? ALL women are born female, and all men are born male-- making the use of cis/trans intellectually stunted, irrelevant and useless
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@miraculousk7547 Only 2 genders-- Male and Female. Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@miraculousk7547 Facts are awesome and stubborn things. The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. Not reasonable or rational by any standard. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. What's your excuse? Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct.
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@miraculousk7547 The one requirement to be a trans woman is being male. LOL that automatically makes you NOT a woman.
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@miraculousk7547 I think it's hilarious that you're trying to argue that gays and lesbians cannot decipher the differences between men and women. Ask them, I'm pretty sure they'll confirm their preferences when they're looking at them
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@miraculousk7547 You seem to have me confused with someone else. Someone who is in a dissociative state, believing that they're something other than what they are-- are delusional by definition. I don't refer to people, when communicating directly-- with pronouns. I use people's names. Don't you?? I perceive the differences between males and females, by merely being observant of objective reality. Perceiving someone as they perceive themselves subjectively, in contradiction to objective reality, is untenable.
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@AutisticKittyStar No, trans men are women with issues pretending that they're men without issues, and trans women are men with issues, pretending that they're women without issues.
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@Maksie0 There's only one kind of woman and they're all born female, making the use of cis/trans irrelevant and useless. Get a clue
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There are only males and females. Those are dudes in disguise. They aren't trans anything
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@Maksie0 Apparently yours does. You seem emotionally invested in the activist ideological narrative.
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@mr.mclibtard5015 Exactly. 💯🎯
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Their dissociative state is by definition, delusional
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The relevant point is drag queens, cross dressers and trans women actually are all men
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@markusbaker1161 That wasn't the point
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@markusbaker1161 The only point you have is the one on the top of your head
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@markusbaker1161 Your conclusions about the law, medicine and science are whacky, misguided and wrong. Your lack of logic and analytical capacity is clear
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@markusbaker1161 You're peddling their talking points. If you can't articulate why you think their narratives are correct-- you're a sheep
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@markusbaker1161 No, I debunked everything you've posted. You're ignoring that fact
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@markusbaker1161 No, rejecting the fairy tales you're peddling as facts
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@markusbaker1161 There are no facts on your side, supporting your narrative
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@markusbaker1161 Your choice to act like an idi0t renders your commentary invalid and less than useless
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@markusbaker1161 You don't know what you're talking about. Men can't become women and talking about their identity is irrelevant-- they're still men. Try being relevant
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@markusbaker1161 All that's wrong
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@markusbaker1161 You're wrong, and so are they. You're free to put your faith in those hacks you refer to as experts, and to pretend that those men are women because they altered their appearance and changed their wardrobes. Get your 20th booster
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@markusbaker1161 Still, No trace of an explanation of why you believe what you assert to be true and accurate, or to prove what I said to be inaccurate. You still fail to persuade
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@markusbaker1161 The trouble is not ignorance; it's just that you know so much that just isn't so
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Were you attempting to display the sort of comment that someone who's shoe size dwarfs their IQ, would make? If so-- GREAT job
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@deezknotsonyourchin They're pretending that womanhood is a costume they can put on
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@markusbaker1161 Your suggestion otherwise doesn't invalidate reality. They're still men, and suggesting otherwise is what's absurd. They are not women
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They don't care. They're only interested in themselves. Total narcissists
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@markusbaker1161 Your choice to remain irrelevant is noted
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@Maksie0 It does when the focus is biological sex.
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@Maksie0 A woman is an adult human female. Cite a study anywhere that proves a trans-woman is not a biological male aka an adult, human, male and is rather an adult, human, female. 🦗🦗🦗
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@Maksie0 I'd say that she is a fictional character, not unlike trans
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@conor.3875 It's irrelevant.
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@conor.3875 The rights of men and women are clearly established. Trans women are men w/ issues, pretending that they're women without issues.-- Still men. Trans men are women with issues, presenting as men without issues.-- Still women. Now you know
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No, that's incorrect. Don't conflate objective reality with subjective imagination
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@KingStr0ng It's Men, wishing they were women -- BUT they're still men, regardless of their cosplay and LARPing. Looks like President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho
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@Maksie0 Women are women-- regardless of how they self-identify, so using cis is redundant and none of anyone's concern but yours. Gender roles are constructed around the biological reality that there are differences between the sexes male and female, respectively. Your subjective trans clown identity doesn't alter your biology
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@Maksie0 Aren't you just a ray of sunshine on a cloudy day...
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@barbarayater4895 🎯
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@IZZY3201 I would've preferred that he elbowed Zoey Turr in the head, when he grabbed Ben
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@nincscsatorna2671 Nah-- just interested in the truth, and exposing the incoherent madness, for the intellectually vacant madness that it is. You seem triggered. I suspect it's because it is YOU, who are obsessed with the trans-activist agenda, and promoting it as valid. It's not
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1. They are not women 2. They're not trans ANYTHING. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after
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@tarapart6021 The inmates from the asylum are on the loose
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@cricketwastaken Obsessed with others? Nah... I'm not the one running around and screaming at the sky because others recognize you for what you are, in direct conflict with objective reality, and perceive you for who and what you are, which is in direct opposition to your self-perceptions. There are people. They are male and female. There are segments of each which present with birth defects and psych disorders, neither of which invalidate the binary of all mammalian species. Developmental sex disorders are not separate sexes/genders. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspect of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) and are incorrectly attempting to use the term as a synonym for/with gender.
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@LanaW123 More like the lack thereof.
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@Maksie0 Who you are, doesn't require surgical alterations so you can pretend to be something you're not. Get a clue
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@mariec3733 Biology is objective. The fact that men and women are observably different isn't controversial for those who can decipher reality from fantasy. What's your excuse for the confusion?
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@babs_babs Doesn't matter. I'm not trying to persuade you. You and yours, are needing the rest of society to participate in your LARP and cosplay you, and the vast vast majority reject the trans-activist ideological narrative. Cope Harder
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There is however, a foundation and that is the fact that a woman is an adult, human, female-- and remembering that biological category is genetically fixed and permanent. Putting on makeup and a dress, and chopping off body parts doesn't change that. If you neuter your male dog and make him wear a dress, it doesn't make him a female dog. Just sayin Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will call themselves women-- And those feminists don't even see it coming-- or Do they?
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@brianwebberable How do you figure?
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@markusbaker1161 Knowing that my comments trigger you, because I'm not fooled into believing men are women due to a disguise, or altering terminology-- is just a perk.
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Trans women, Drag queens, and Cross dressers all have the same thing in common-- They're all men. That's the point
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@mariec3733 You're saying drag queens are portrayed by women, or would those be drag kings or some other name that doesn't change the fact that trans women are men, portraying themselves as the opposite sex??
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@mariec3733 All that's possible is to alter their appearance. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@mariec3733 I already told you, all they can do is alter their appearance.
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@Maksie0 Most couldn't care less about your cult terminology.
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There's no such thing as trans people. There are males and females... That's it. A woman isn't a costume that men can simply put on. Women aren't a social construct. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those men weren't.
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They're not women... They're still men, and their skewed self-perception, and quirky fashion sense doesn't alter that fact, and neither does choosing to refer to them by another name like trans-women. Total lunacy
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@markusbaker1161 That's my general reaction, when they expect to be taken seriously by insisting on preferred pronouns
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@markusbaker1161 Considering that you've not proven anything I've written to be inaccurate or incorrect, your considerations, opinions and reactions couldn't possibly be less relevant, or even in the slightest bit-- interesting.
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@markusbaker1161 Considering that you've not proven anything you've said invalidates the fact that trans-women are merely men, by another name-- not women, nothing you've said is relevant
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@markusbaker1161 trans-women are men. Your argument is irrelevant
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@markusbaker1161 No they aren't, and you've failed to prove otherwise
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@markusbaker1161 A woman is defined as an adult, human, female. If you need further clarity about what that means, I recommend a medical university biology department
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 @markusbaker1161 The fact that you need clarification on the differences between males and females, says enough 🙄:text-green-game-over:
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@markusbaker1161 Are you able to cite any evidence that shows trans women are not biological men? I see them as synonymous
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@mariec3733 Yes, they are. Men and women aren't the same thing dear, and they're not interchangeable. Those who you refer to as trans women are men. Science and medicine has established that all mammals are male or female, respectively-- and that status is fixed and permanent. Black’s Law Dictionary defines woman as “an adult female human being.” What's your confusion?
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Ironically, Christianity is the reason for the idea that people are created equally and should be treated with dignity
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@rylandercoleman2740 Wow... You're really reaching now. Let's not pretend that "slavery" hasn't been around since the beginning of time and practiced by every nation on the planet. Here in the west, the Republicans abolished the slavery of the Jacksonian Democrats, however; it still exists today in Africa and the middle east. You know, the same people who enslaved their own people and sold them facilitating the slave trade. Ya, them-- They're still doing it today
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It appears only to be firing intermittently and at random.
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@markusbaker1161 A trans-community joke?
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@markusbaker1161 You need better material. Why should men (regardless of you renaming them Trans-women-- they're still men) be granted access to women's private spaces, based on their subjective identity claims, which aren't validated by objective reality?? Nothing still? Shocker... 🙄
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@markusbaker1161 You lose.
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@markusbaker1161 I already have, to my satisfaction.
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@markusbaker1161 Every time you've cowered away from answering a question, and/or fail to provide evidence for your assertions
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@markusbaker1161 How are those different from human rights?
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@markusbaker1161 You described human rights. What are the distinctions you're drawing that separate them from human rights?
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@Maksie0 I just laugh at your confused, indoctrination. You look and sound ridiculous. There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are
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@penny6688 Quit inappropriately conflating the wide variability in personality traits and temperament with gender. None are gender exclusive
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Jenner only altered his appearance. Still male The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@PiggiesInTheRain There are males and females. That's it... That biological status is fixed and permanent with all mammals. Certain segments of each present with various physical disorders, some with various psych issues and some with both. Now you know. A woman isn't a costume that men can put on, and she isn't a social construct. She's an adult, human, female and as it turns out-- the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female.
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The Cooler Mira Islam I personally couldn't care less if they choose to cosplay and LARP, however; That doesn't make them that which they're portraying-- in reality and it certainly doesn't justify granting them access to women's private spaces
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The Cooler Mira Islam As it turn out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman, and that's being born female and those dudes weren't. They're not banned from having a quirky fashion sense and using the appropriate male restroom
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@Maksie0 You don't appear to understand how critical thinking works
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100% Correct
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@mariec3733 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. You seem to think gender is synonymous with personality traits and temperament. That's wrong
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@mariec3733 Male and female (The biological quotient) are what the social constructs you're getting hung up on are connected to, pointing out the 2 genders. Again, you're conflating gender and gender roles (The roles males and females fill in society). Gender-- There are 2
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@mariec3733 The rest of your schtick, where you pretend I said the opposite of what I said and base narratives and conclusions around that is asinine and foolishness. I never claimed sex is a construct. You are the one conflating biological sex with social constructs, when you incorrectly claim that trans women (men) are women. Altering one's appearance doesn't change one's sex, and neither does one's imagination that they're the opposite sex. Not sure how you got that twisted, but now you know
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@mariec3733 The social aspect of gender is relating to being male or female, respectively-- and men who are portraying themselves as females are still males. Your confusion on the matter seems clear
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@mariec3733 You appear to suggest and think that observing physical attributes is a social construct? That's weird
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@mariec3733 The definition I found says: Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. If gender is not biological, why should those men be granted access to women's private spaces-- which are designed and implemented based on biology, because of their subjective feelings about their gender???
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@mariec3733 Copy paste my definition into a search engine and it should come up. The comment gets deleted if I link to the source or even mention the source name. SO LAME
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@mariec3733 Regarding violent crimes, men are the victims and perpetrators of violent crime at a higher rate than women. Look it up My solution is, men use the men's spaces and women use the women's spaces. If someone is trans-- they should use the spaces that corresponds to their biology, not their feelings and imaginary persona-- which is in conflict with their biology
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@mariec3733 When I copy it into a yahoo search, it's the 2nd one that pops up. Don't know what to tell you
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@mariec3733 You don't agree with the definition and dismiss the validity of the definition. Fair enough Well, I don't agree with your definition and dismiss the validity of your chosen definition. Fair enough I've made my case why I believe I'm correct and you are not. You, on the other hand, have not made yours
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@mariec3733 So confirmation bias is what you seek? Wrong guy here. I've made my case why I believe I'm correct and you are not. You, on the other hand, have not made yours. EVEN IF I agree that gender and sex are not connected (I don't)-- You STILL haven't explained how it is that those biological men are justified in being granted access into women's private spaces-- since you admit that you believe that sex isn't affected by or connected to gender, it doesn't make sense to say that trans women are women. Do you have any original thoughts on the challenges I brought up about your point of view, definitions and disjointed absence of logic in your narratives? If not-- We'll leave it at agreeing to disagree
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@mariec3733 So-- That's a No, re: original thoughts on my challenges to your assertions. Got it
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@buttcheek1964 No, not even close. Cutting off your pecker doesn't make you a woman. It makes you a guy who cut off his damned pecker. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They're LARPing, and aren't 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do. It's counter-culture Version 3.0 cosplay
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@Maksie0 Because there's only one kind of woman, and as it turns out the prerequisite for being a woman is being born female-- making the cis label irrelevant
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@Ey3_s0cEt.4.20. An adult, human, female.
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@eluneee00 ❄
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@samhulst How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition, and are then considered "rational"?
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@Dawaza Gaming Leftists continually letting r@pists out of prison again and again... seem to foster the ability of predators to do their thing, wouldn't you say?
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@kysscum111 Nope... There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all -- as it turns out-- born females making the use of cis entirely nonsensical, redundant and irrelevant
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Don't let them fool you. There is only 1 kind of woman, and you're born female.
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@mariec3733 Only the socially constructed gender roles are social constructs, and they relate to being male or female, respectively. If you identify as other than your biological reality, it in no way justifies you to be granted access to women's private space. Make it make sense
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No... Just, No.
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@ninadaly7639 It's not for the whole world to accommodate the vast vast minority. It's for those people to adapt to reality. You hear that??? It's the sound of men and women EVERYWHERE rejecting this incoherent ideology for the bull 💩that it is. Don't believe me? Ask Budweiser
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The term is totally irrelevant and useless-- as there is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females.
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@conor.3875 Doesn't mean there's any other kind of woman, other than those born female
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@m1lkyways Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. Cope Harder it's *He
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@Maksie0 Looks like you need to have a baba and a nap. Anti-social and cranky aren't the way to a peaceful, fulfilling life.
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They've gotten it totally wrong on gender. Gender (There are 2) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Then, they inappropriately conflate gender, personality traits and temperament-- as though they're synonymous and they are not. They should learn the differences. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate male and female. Then, they conflate men and women. It's totally incoherent nonsense that they're peddling
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@mariec3733 There are males and females. That's it... Now you know. A woman isn't a costume that men can put on, and she isn't a social construct. Update your understanding to comprehend the fact that personality and gender aren't synonymous
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@phthisis Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then your identity is not valid.
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@graennleaf4769 Psych disorders nonetheless, not biological reality. They're only caricatures of that which they wish they could be, and NEVER will-- women
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@markusbaker1161 You shouldn't laugh at them. It's not their fault they have psych issues
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@markusbaker1161 Your limited comprehension capacity is a YOU problem
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@markusbaker1161 It appears to me that Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They appear to be misgendering themselves.
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 @markusbaker1161 No, that's the sound of reality pointing out and rejecting your imaginary bull 💩
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@mollysmith2004 They can identify as a Klingon, have a surgeon alter their appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, prescribe hormones etc... and it doesn't make them an actual Klingon, and if they think it does-- it proves they're delusional
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@beeeboopbeepboop The correct term is 'dude'
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@demongrave6666 That's what Groomers would say
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@briannachilders772 Looks like you need to figure out the difference between personality traits and temperament and quit conflating them with gender
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@conor.3875 Men use the men's room. PERIOD Full stop. Dudes in drag are entitled to use the men's room too
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@fruitguzzi9122 Restrooms are designed around sex, not feelings. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@jasonb111222 Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally due to a psych disorder, attention, or Both. That you can't wrap your head around that is a You problem.
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They're merely caricatures of what they wish they were. If the validity of one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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They say gender identity and sex are separate, but haven't been able to justify encroaching on spaces designated segregated based on sex, as an entitlement. Not even close They also haven't come close yet, to being able to justify the expectation that just because they present and identify in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must treat them as though they're the opposite sex. It's absurd
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How about, No. Not a solution.... It doesn't address lost scholarship opportunities, Dressing Rooms, Changing Rooms, Showers, Locker Rooms, or Prisons
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They're not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier.
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@blackseagorgon Nonsense. "Socialism has a history of failure so blatant, that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it".-- T. Sowell
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Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1. Your body and brain develop & grow together -> You simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2. Hating a part of you body so much, that you cut it off, is a mental illness.
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It occurs to me that the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female, and those dudes weren't. How do you figure they're women???
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Nothing?? Anything??? Well, all I can think of is woe to those like you because in your near dystopian future you'll be oppressed by tyrannical men who will claim they're women. You don't even see it coming do you?
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@roslyn-rose124 It's redundant. There are males and females and that condition is fixed and permanent. There are segments of each which have birth defects and psych issues. How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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They're not women-- and can never be women. It's really not complicated. Why should they be acknowledged as women?? They're men
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@markusbaker1161 You said, trans women ARE women and that's incorrect
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@markusbaker1161 Nope, that's totally wrong.
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@markusbaker1161 Those hacks you refer to as experts are challenged by their peers in the medical community, who take issue with the ethics of those who you put your faith in. Your cult is rejected.
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@Maksie0 That's wrong. Women who are trans are trans men-- according to your own insane cult terminology. Get a clue
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Criminals are going to be criminals so, abandon all laws, is your implication? Not too bright
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Regarding gender-- There are 2, male and female, and one's personality, quirky fashion senses, or active imagination doesn't alter that permanent state. You don't use pronouns when addressing people in the 1st person, you'd use their name, and to use a pronoun that is in conflict with objective reality would be grammatically incorrect. Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is respectable. If your subjective identity is in conflict with objective reality, then that identity isn't valid. People aren't obligated to indulge the LARPing or cosplay.
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@mariec3733 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and references the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. In reality, male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. A woman isn't a costume that men can simply put on. Women aren't a social construct. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those men weren't. Now you know
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@mariec3733 If the basics of grammar elude you, then get a refund from your school.
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@mariec3733 Your ideology is incoherent. You get it wrong on gender. Then you conflate gender with personality traits and temperament as though they're synonymous-- and they are not. Then, you conflate gender and gender roles. Then, you conflate males with females.
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@pan thornberry It's madness
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition? and why then, are they attempting to normalize it and have it considered "rational"?
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@Maksie0 There are no "trans" people. There are only human people, and humans are males or females, respectively... That's it, there are exactly ZERO exceptions Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are
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@sirliom Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then-- your identity is not valid.
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That dude isn't a woman of any sort. He's totally detached from reality. There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female
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@Ramzeis Wokeism tends to devour itself, so that's fine for those places which choose to do so
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@Ramzeis They're wrong, so they've already lost. They just don't see it It's already started
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It's the only grammatically correct choice
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@bullsbattlebonanza5377 I'm not trying to convince anyone. People are free to pretend that they don't recognize the differences between men and women if they want to. Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is actually respectable. If your subjective identity relies on the participation of others denying objective reality,then that identity isn't valid.
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@yumalove7411 Apparently, not women who object to being labeled 'cis-women'
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@justyana488 Last time I check, Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not-- Smart@ss
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@justyana488 How does one's imagination, and subjective sense of self invalidate objective reality?? 🦗🦗🦗 I mean, If it did-- everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then how is that identity valid? 🤡🌎
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Every metric shows home schooled kids do better in every category. Quit blowing bubbles
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@markusbaker1161 You don't care
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@markusbaker1161 uh huh...
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What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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These delusional living memes illustrate the need for more asylums
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Because 80+% of the people on earth are religious should be a sufficient reason
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They're narcissists, and self-entitled brats-- with psych issues. It's not really surprising
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There's more $$$ in treatment than cures
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@jupiterfox7683 The term cis has nothing to do with gender. It's used in chemistry to describe the position of certain molecules in reference to others. There's only 1 kind of woman, and as it turns out-- she's born female.
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They're activists
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They would be used as bait
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@Maksie0 Why are you presuming their identity?
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@Maksie0 That looks more like a description of You, and what you do for this channel/organization
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@Maksie0 Not even close to a 'She'. That dude is unhinged from reality, and so are you if you think he's a 'she'
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@conor.3875 If sex and gender are truly independent, then why do trans men and trans women go through so many hoops to change their primary sex characteristics??? You’re not trying to change your gender, you’re trying to change sex…. Make it make sense WAY TOO Many are conflating sex/gender (There are only 2 male/female, and segments of each present with various physical issues, some with psych issues, some with both-- none of which alter the fact that their biology is male or female) with gender roles (These vary from culture to culture, country to country and society to society, BUT-- they all (without exception) refer to the roles of males and females in those cultures, countries, and societies) and personality (There are a ton, and NONE are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) as if they're all synonymous, and they aren't.
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@conor.3875 You fail to persuade.
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@Maksie0 No, they aren't. If they were, insisting on the 'trans' qualifier would be even stranger than it already is
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@Maksie0 You believe that huh? LOL
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@charcoalgea2863 Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is respectable.
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@charcoalgea2863 As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female, and those dudes-- were not
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What about him do you love?
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Transgender= Gender pretender
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@jtc1ra Even if that were correct-- That in no way invalidates what I wrote. Trans women are Men with issues, engaging in LARP and cosplay, pretending that they're women without issues-- Still men
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@markusbaker1161 That's what you do. You ignore the fact that a woman is an adult, human female and trans-women aren't that
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@markusbaker1161 NEWSFLASH-- trans women, cross dressers, and drag queens are all men. Cope harder
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@markusbaker1161 Your confusion about the difference between facts and opinions is noted. Cite any study, from any expert that confirms your statement. I dare you
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@markusbaker1161 Then, you admit trans women are males/men, merely presenting as females/women. Their subjective internal identification and feelings are irrelevant- objectively.
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@markusbaker1161 The notion that any evidence exists anywhere, of a human transforming from one sex into the other-- has not been established in any medical publication. It simply doesn't exist. If your identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must perceive you, as you perceive yourself subjectively, counter to reality then that identity isn't valid as far as everyone else is concerned. You can live in your bubble if you want.
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@markusbaker1161 Why would I? That's not my assertion. They're men. Of course, they're valid people
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@markusbaker1161 I recognize that men and women have human rights
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@markusbaker1161 Acknowledging that they're humans, re-read the above comment
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@markusbaker1161 Are they somehow different than individual human rights?
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@markusbaker1161 Why are you afraid to answer my question, asking you to articulate how they differ from human rights?
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@markusbaker1161 You, having failed to articulate how they vary from basic human rights, I don't recognize them. No
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@markusbaker1161 Those trans women aka men, want to be called trans women so they can pretend they're not men. The reason you insist on calling them trans women is so you can pretend they're not men too, or you really can't tell the difference. Either way-- they're still men.
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@markusbaker1161 You don't know a lot of other things too, apparently.
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@Maksie0 No, they're still men. The 'T'' community disagree with you, as they call women who are trans-- trans men. Adjust your talking point to something coherent-- for a change
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No, gender roles are a social construct and they deal with the roles that males and females fill, in society.
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@qr-eh9es Because gender is biological (There are 2- male/female) and it is not synonymous with personality or temperament (there are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys), or with gender roles -- which refer to the roles of males and females in society, and they vary from culture to culture, society to society and from country to country-- which ALL refer to the roles of males and females.
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@qr-eh9es No... You're conflating gender with gender roles as though they're synonymous, and they aren't.
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@Maksie0 transphobes are only a social construct
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, those males and females are an extreme minority of society-- still males or females, respectively. Prioritizing their feelings as a distinction, justifying them being recognized as 'other than men' like in Blossom's case, in defiance of objective truth isn't rational.
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@markusbaker1161 The logic it takes to say that someone who has a host of other behavioral/mental disorders (as nearly all dealing with transgenderism do) and is willing to mutilate themselves in irreversible fashion to achieve a status wherein they're still dozens of times more likely to commit sui**de ISN'T mental illness, is amazingly twisted. Insert any other condition and any other incessant desire to self-harm and there would be no dispute whatsoever.
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@markusbaker1161 Four-- shut the door
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@Maksie0 Normal? So, you're admitting that there is a normal, against which all others are measured? What's your point? There are males and there are females... that's it-- and segments of each present with various physical and psych issues, some with both.
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@CaptainChapin Your comment seems to prove the saying true. If you want to anger a conservative, tell them a lie If you want to anger a lefty-- Tell the truth. Don't be mad... Educate yourself
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@CaptainChapin There's nothing phobic about realizing that they're not that which they claim to be- It just makes one observant. The thing is, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and their natural body chemistry. Still men. Calm down-- you can still enjoy your cosplay
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@Maksie0 Yup
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How many kids have you raised who've become well-adjusted, happy, productive, adult members of society?
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@ajrod2005 Cope harder. The point is, raise your own kids and leave the parenting of other people's kids to their parents
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@ajrod2005 LOL... Gaslight harder. Who is this ''we", you're referring to? Trans women are men with issues, pretending to be women without issues
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@mariec3733 You're still triggered by those who reject your cult narratives, it seems. You better learn to cope with rejection, because the vast majority reject your trans-activist cult narratives
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No one cares
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@KindlyKalen If that were true, you wouldn't require everyone to participate in and affirm your LARP and cosplay, including your pronouns-- as though they were based in objective reality.
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@KindlyKalen Words mean things, so people can communicate. Get a clue. Quit conflating personality with gender and gender roles, as though they're synonymous... They aren't
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@conor.3875 It's as if you believe your opinion matters... It doesn't
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@KindlyKalen You're not the center of the universe, your feelings couldn't be less relevant. Off you go...
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@KindlyKalen Don't care. Men cannot become women and women cannot become men. Cope Harder
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@conor.3875 Yes, you are
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@conor.3875 Aww, how cute-- you seem to think your opinion is valuable-- That's wrong
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@KindlyKalen All they can do is alter their appearance-- Still men. Cope with that
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@KindlyKalen No... Gender roles are a social construct, and they address the roles of being male or female only... in society's. Quit conflating gender roles, gender, and personality as though they're synonymous-- They're Not
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Under statement of the century
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@Maksie0 Being that ALL women are born female-- with exactly zero exceptions, how do you figure???
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@dxcoco8578 The problem for them is the world exists in objective reality, and their imagination doesn't override the vast majority of people's capacity for discernment.
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@rockyskiesss There is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female. Trans women are men who wish they were women, but never can be
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They're trying to get a grip on what that means. For some reason, they conflate sex/gender with personality and gender roles as though they're synonymous, even though they aren't. They fail to realize that all women are born female, and all men are born male and that neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, personalities or costumes
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@Maksie0 You, apparently own stock in the company
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Identities which conflict with biology, are those of people w/ various psych issues who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition.
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If your identity is predicated on the notion that everyone must deny objective reality, and participate in your cosplay or LARPing-- then sorry, No. That identity is invalid
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@Maksie0 That's so intellectually vacant it's beyond absurd.
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@Maksie0 Except for the actual accounts of that exact thing actually happening, but don't let that influence your point of view
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@markusbaker1161 A transgender student in Oklahoma was charged with assault after the student allegedly punched two female students in the girls' restroom at a high school. Look it up
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@markusbaker1161 F.U. Look it up. If you weren't a rude twat-- I might continue to oblige you, but enough is enough. That's how it works
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No... Trans is merely a social construct, according to the cult But washrooms are designated based on biology not mere social constructs. Gender-- there are 2, and they are fixed and permanent. No one in history has transitioned from male to female. The advocates of this incoherent madness must Cope Harder, because the world doesn't care about their subjective identities.
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@markusbaker1161 Men should use the men's room and women should use the women's room. No one in history has transitioned from male to female-- so if you have male bits use the men's room. It's really simple
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@markusbaker1161 Perhaps, the armed women they offend will take matters into their own hands. I'd be fine with that.
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Way to miss the point. Why should men be granted access to women's private spaces like locker rooms, restrooms, prisons and sports teams? Consideration of their 'Feelings' over the women who object-- doesn't justify it
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@markusbaker1161 I asked a question. I didn't make a claim. Where's your answer and the evidence supporting it?
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@markusbaker1161 trans-women are in fact men, who've merely altered their appearance. This isn't a complex equation
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@allie4492 Troll
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@timmiller1435 Mentally stunted, nonetheless
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@timmiller1435 I don't disagree with your premise that it was men v women. Allie! is still a troll
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@timmiller1435 No allie! is the troll. Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue are people who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@timmiller1435 Correct. Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men who will claim they're women-- and those feminists don't even see it coming.
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@justyana488 Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Respect is earned, and it's reserved for that which is respectable.
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@Maksie0 There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the use of cis/trans useless and intellectually vacant.
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@Maksie0 That if you insist on preferred pronouns and then insist on using the 'cis' term, when the person you're using the term with expresses their preference that you don't-- that it's hypocritical and that isn't nice. Be gone troll
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@Maksie0 They're merely recognizing that he is not a she, or trans anything. That he's still the same sex/gender prior to altering his appearance as he is after-- making them observant of reality
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No, you should not. Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is respectable, or it means NOTHING
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@tylarrobertson4319 No, gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively-- and it is not disconnected from biology, as being male or female is a biological category which is fixed and permanent.
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@markusbaker1161 Cis/Trans come from Latin and are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Now you know
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@markusbaker1161 That's nice. Until you can prove men can become women-- Your trans narrative is totally bogus
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@Maksie0 None of that has anything to do with the fact that men cannot become women. Get a clue
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@markusbaker1161 There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women, illustrating that your narrative is a totally bogus faith-based belief with zero evidence to support your claim that trans women are women. Checkmate / You lost
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@markusbaker1161 No, they don't 'transition'. They merely alter their appearance. Not the same thing. They're still males, only now mutil@ted-- and with a quirky wardrobe.
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@markusbaker1161 They're men who mutilate themselves and alter their appearance. Still men And... They're still women, who mutilate themselves and alter their appearance-- Still women
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@markusbaker1161 Your cult narrative and terminology is rejected. Gender-- there are 2 and they are fixed and permanent. No one in history has transitioned from male to female. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 It's hilarious that you believe that to be true and correct. It's not
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The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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It's entirely ridiculous. There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born females-- making the use of cis intellectually bankrupt
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@Maksie0 A woman isn't a social construct or a costume. Cope harder
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Actually, gender is established at conception, and is observed and documented at birth or before
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@elap1529 M N O P
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Care to elaborate? The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. They're merely caricatures of what they 'WISH' they were and can never be One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Thoughts???
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Why?
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We're suppose to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe? Some call it "my truth", I call it lying to oneself.
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@rambunctiousvegetable Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1.) Your body and brain develop & grow together -> You simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2.) Hating a part of you body so much, that you want to cut it of, is a mental illness.
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@rambunctiousvegetable There is only one kind of woman, and as it turns out, the prerequisite for being a woman is being born female, and those dudes-- weren't. Referring to those dudes as women is the misgendering, as it's grammatically incorrect. That sound is the sound of women and men rejecting the woke, trans activist, cult ideology en masse.
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@rambunctiousvegetable Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Quit confusing and conflating personality with gender. They are not synonymous
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@RED-my9hl That's exactly my point. Restrooms, changing rooms, locker rooms, prisons are all designed and implemented around biology, not 'Feelings'. Those men are in NO Way justified in being granted access to women's private spaces. They're still men
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@Maksie0 Women who identify as 'women' don't need a qualifier like cis, assigned by others. How they identify is none of your business, so it's redundant. If they choose to identify that way is one thing. That you choose to identify them that way against their wishes is using it as a slur
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@markusbaker1161 Prove it
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@markusbaker1161 The claim made is that trans-women are women. The burden of proof isn't with me
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@markusbaker1161 All doctors agree with that? No... That's wrong. You seem to have a vested interest in suggesting that men, when presenting as women-- should be granted access to women's spaces and that women should be okay with that.
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@markusbaker1161 Research 'Transgender Docs Warn About Gender-Affirmative Care for Youth'
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@markusbaker1161 The claim made is that trans-women are women. The burden of proof isn't with me. Your ever present anti-woman, anti-social, 'Look at me' arguments, and comments stating that you don't care about opinions that aren't rooted in confirmation bias-- suggest you're conflicted. You seem just as -- T r i g g e r e d, as you did on the debate panel, when you lost in a big way, Blossom.
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@markusbaker1161 Blah, blah, blah. You stand in solidarity with the narrative that claims trans-women are women, and you have failed to validate that asinine claim
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@markusbaker1161 Tell it to your therapist
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@markusbaker1161 Couldn't care less. Were you under the impression that any of that should matter?
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@markusbaker1161 You appear to be under the impression that your opinion is somehow of value. It isn't. Feel free to cry salty tears over the mockery of your insisted pronouns, based in subjective fantasy and imagination-- contrary to objective reality.
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@markusbaker1161 blah blah blah... Don't care
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@markusbaker1161 😴
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@markusbaker1161 Yet-- here you are seeking me out continuously.
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@daisyloe There are no nonbinary people. They're misgendering themselves. They aren't that which they claim to be. They're LARPing at best
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The HUGE number of women having ab0rti0ns, suggest that the majority of women aren't having that much difficulty conceiving due to 'medical issues', or 'things of that nature'. Just sayin. I agree with your overall sentiment
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@roslyn-rose124 How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition? The point is, they are not that which they claim to be
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@aaralyn6710 Intersex is a genetic disorder, not a 3rd gender invalidating the binary dichotomy of all mammals. The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule. They prove the rule by being the exceptions. Now, you know
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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They aren't trans ANYTHING. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance-- as they are after they do. They're LARPing at BEST
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@Maksie0 F00L
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There are only males and females, and that state is fixed and permanent. They aren't trans anything
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There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female--which makes using the term cis/trans totally useless and irrelevant.
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Community? Who's your leader?
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There is no such thing as trans humans. There are males and females. That's it...
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@SubZero-hs9xc No, trans women are men who wish they were women... Still men
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Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively-- and the biological categories of male and female are fixed and permanent.
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There are people, and they are male or female. They both have segments which present w/ birth defects and others with various psych disorders, some w/ both. They aren't trans ANYTHING. They're the same sex/gender prior to surgery altering their appearance and chemistry, as they are after. All they're doing is altering their appearance. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent
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And the mentally ill, suffering with delusions
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@Maksie0 There's only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female. Their political preferences don't change that fact. Cope Harder
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@Nathancant1953 People are real. They are male or female, respectively. ALL women are born female, and ALL men are born male. Wishing you were the opposite sex doesn't make it so. Take your time to process reality. Trans women are Men with issues, pretending that they're women without issues, and trans men are women with issues, presenting as men, but they're not.
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@sarah.phillipa854 Not much of a refutation
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@Maksie0 How cute... You think your opinion is of value to anyone but you.
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What's your point-- that all laws should be abandoned, since bad people will do bad things regardless?
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@mariec3733 You're not exactly a pillar of truth and reason. You attempt to smear those who challenge your assertions and then runaway like a beotch when confronted with facts and truth. You're a liar, and liars lie-- so your credibility = ZERO
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@mariec3733 No doubt that you're confused and triggered by the truth. You confuse fact with fiction, science with pseudo-science, and attempt to justify men being granted access into women's private spaces because of their subjective identity, and active imaginations that they're somehow entitled.
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BTW, cis is a term used in chemistry to describe the position of certain molecules, one to the other and has NOTHING to do with gender
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What's your point? They're still men portraying themselves as something they're not ie. women
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@Tylerd838 1 Million up votes
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@Maksie0 Says the pro-activist fascist, when insisting on preferred pronouns. Self awareness = zero
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@Maksie0 All of your responses have been weak and embarrassing
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@markusbaker1161 Mine still stand as valid and are still not refuted. Acting the fool is all you have.
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@markusbaker1161 There is no science which shows that trans-women aren't males. The fact that people want to pretend otherwise doesn't change objective reality
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, they do-- when they say that trans-women are women. That is incorrect. They're men My deal is, recognizing that those men are not that which they present themselves as, and I support women's rights to privacy. What's your deal?
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I believe that is the correct technical term
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Cognitive Dissonance
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Gender: There are 2, Male and female. Gender roles are social constructs-- Not gender, hence trans being a social construct-- making the statement 'trans women are women' absurd and removed from objective reality. They're men
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@markusbaker1161 Quit pretending that it matters to you. You said women are a social construct
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@markusbaker1161 You did ask which ones.
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@markusbaker1161 It mattered enough to you to write about it. nuff said
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@markusbaker1161 That I did know that it mattered to you, despite your claim that I didn't. No biggie. You're double-minded and embrace the absurd and abstract and conflate it with objective reality to argue for argument's sake
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@markusbaker1161 It's a lie and totally incorrect. Men are men regardless of their self-perceived identity.
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@markusbaker1161 Why do you believe what you're referring to is correct?
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@markusbaker1161 I've already answered that for you, and you said you weren't interested in reading the answer-- so, your lack of awareness is your own doing
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@markusbaker1161 No, you don't. You choose to embrace a whacky concept that those men are something other than men.
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@markusbaker1161 You keep saying that, and I get that you believe sex and gender are separate-- But you seem unable and/or unwilling to articulate how that justifies biological males being allowed in biological females private spaces. What is the logic and rational behind your belief that those whom you're referencing are correct?
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@markusbaker1161 Not all physicians and everyone in the medical community agree with the trajectory of the current treatment protocol-- so why do you believe the activist medical community, over the others?
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@markusbaker1161 Our society has fallen under a strong delusion where women, REAL women have been reduced to a feeling. The trans agenda is just sickening and the fact that the West has succumbed to its delusions is just horrifying.
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@markusbaker1161 I know you don't care about women or women's rights. I called it a long time ago
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@markusbaker1161 The feeling is mutual
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@markusbaker1161 Well, you have stated that trans women are women-- simultaneously insisting that gender and sex are disconnected, while saying you don't care about women or their rights
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@markusbaker1161 A woman is an adult, human, female and trans women aren't that-- so how is it that they're women, which is not a social construct rather a biological category? You're just incorrect
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@markusbaker1161 Only to you dear. Trans women are not women-- they're men. You can pretend otherwise if you like-- BUT it isn't making them women or any less men, AT ALL. You being wrong and insisting that gender and sex are different doesn't trigger me-- it illustrates the giant gaping hole in your logic.
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@markusbaker1161 I think it's amusing that you believe it matters that it came from somewhere else and that you put stock in those claims, which you clearly don't understand-- and perpetuate them as though you do. Total lunacy
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@Maksie0 🤕🙄 Why do you suggest chess to be an example of physical prowess?
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@mariec3733 Men cannot become women, and women cannot become men. Cope harder
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@mariec3733 Your capacity for logic, reason, truth and deciphering fact from fiction has not yet been demonstrated.
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It wouldn't have mattered. The premise is absurd, and the ideology is incoherent nonsense based in fantasy, not reality
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@elf of mxxns Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid.
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Ya, like Gladiator sports in the special olympics
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Cry harder... There are males and females... That's it. There is no trans. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after. Same
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Him being discredited, is the opposite of proving his points dear
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@DefiledDame Being 'trans' is the REAL construct.
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders. The incoherent ideology is inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament-- none of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys, w/ gender
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Why would someone who believes they're a woman wish to have the distinction drawn in the first place? That's Odd, in and of itself
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@Maksie0 Trans women are Men with issues, pretending that they're women without issues. stfu
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@thankyouforbeingafriend9632 Yes it is, and you've not proven it incorrect. Not much of a refutation. 🤡
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@conor.3875 Define woman
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@conor.3875 There you have it
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@conor.3875 Your declaration that trans women are not men -- just because you said so-- isn't true. Make your case if you think you can.
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@conor.3875 You said, "trans women are not men"
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@conor.3875 I wasn't quoting you for saying "because I said so". Up your game. The foolishness is so juvenile.
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@conor.3875 That's lame, even for you. A woman is an adult, human, female. Trans women are not that-- they're men. Cope Harder
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@conor.3875 How did you reach that conclusion, when I said those being referred to as trans women are men?
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@conor.3875 What's your point, that the term trans women is ridiculous? I would agree with that, since they're not women-- they're biological men, and that condition is fixed and permanent
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@conor.3875 Never happened
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@conor.3875 Trans women and women are not the same thing. Trans is a social construct; women and men aren't. Trans women is the description that men who present as women use to describe themselves-- so they can pretend they are women, and they are not. Does that confuse you?
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@conor.3875 I refuse to participate in your intellectual gymnastics-- leading nowhere. The trans activists demand that everyone abandon everything known about fundamental physical reality for their sake, so they can pretend to be that which they are not. The answer is No. The obsessive unquenchable need for affirmation is unreal. The narcissism is unmatched. They want society to be restructured around their self-perceptions. The answer is, NO
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@conor.3875 Nah... quit projecting. That's your cognitive dissonance causing the short-circuit in your comprehension process. Don't forget... Men cannot become women and vice versa. Try to be relevant in the future
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@conor.3875 Nah that's you getting exposed for being nothing more than the troll you are. I appreciate the opportunity to expose the nonsense that is this narrative you seem to have bought into, for being the nonsense that it is. :person-turqouise-waving::face-green-smiling:
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No-- Just, No
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Trans women are still men, and trans-men are still women-- They're not 'trans' anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry, as if life were a reality TV show and they're doing some sort of part or cosplay.
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The viewership numbers would be lower than the WNBA
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The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not. Thoughts??
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@mariec3733 The Irony :face-green-smiling:
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@mariec3733 I agree, your cognitive dissonance, and willingness to lie, obfuscate and virtue signal virtue-free rants, is clearly evident in your commentary
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@mariec3733 You should just come out as gay. There's no stigma attached to it anymore. I mean, you can pretend that a dude in a dress is a woman if you want-- but you're only fooling yourself
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Because the world doesn't owe the vast vast minority a pass-- They have to adapt to the world
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@Ey3_s0cEt.4.20. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Gender and Personality-- learn the difference
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@markusbaker1161 I, unfortunately for me-- haven't gotten you to ignore one of my comments yet
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@markusbaker1161 I've been asking you to prove the claim that men can become women, or that trans women are women-- and you can't because the narrative claims are baseless
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@markusbaker1161 Me neither. It was an analogy. Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct. She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals specifically humans. Now you know
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@Ey3_s0cEt.4.20. Listen carefully... That's the sound of men and women rejecting your incoherent ideology and terminology for the bull 💩 that it is. Don't believe me? Ask Budweiser
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people-- who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@markusbaker1161 That's wrong. Your projection is noted and your baseless claim is rejected. Tell me, why should a male, who "needs help with their mental health" be granted access to female's private spaces like dressing rooms, locker rooms, sports teams, restrooms and prisons?
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@charcoalgea2863 No, your inch long manhood doesn't make you a woman junior-- as much as you seem to wish it did
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@markusbaker1161 The whole video is a troll. There's no science anywhere proving men can become women.
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@markusbaker1161 No doubt that the truth is foreign to you,making it seem weird. It's just a fact, The truth matters
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@markusbaker1161 I don't need to. They're still men, and suggesting otherwise is what's absurd. They are not women. Your suggestion otherwise doesn't invalidate reality. They don't belong infiltrating women's spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms or sports teams, because they're still men-- even if you insist on calling them something else
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@markusbaker1161 Your failure to recognize and comprehend the facts is a you problem. You fail to justify allowing men, despite the fact that you refer to them by a different term, into women's spaces based on their subjective feelings and identity-- which is not valid nor relevant in reality.
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@markusbaker1161 You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and have not justified allowing men to infiltrate women's private places, because of their subjective identity claims. Why do you hate women?
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It's about fantasy vs reality
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@marcusweaver6766 No, it's about fact vs fiction. As it turns out, the prerequisite for being a woman is being born female. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 I don't recognize you having posted any facts which prove me to be incorrect. Men can't become women, and vice versa. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 I will not be baited into a diversionary topic, so you can avoid the acknowledging the fact that men cannot become women and women cannot become men. That one's subjective identity, when in conflict with their objective biology, doesn't justify affirming all of society playing along with that falsehood, by demanding incorrect preferred pronouns, or access to women's private spaces.
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@markusbaker1161 Gaslight harder
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@markusbaker1161 Justify men being granted access to women's spaces. Go ahead. stfu
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@markusbaker1161 You haven't done that yet. You lose
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No need. It's already simple. There are males and there are females. Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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🎯 Bullseye
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They don't mutilate their body's and then pretend they're something they're not either
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@markusbaker1161 Having your head buried in the sand about it, invalidates nothing
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@markusbaker1161 The topic and the point was they were having a field day impregnating females in women's prison. Try to focus
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They aren't trans anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're still men
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If trans women believe they're women-- using the prefixes is extraordinarily Odd and thoroughly redundant
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@Maksie0 Cope Harder. The comments in the comment section alone indicate that you're incorrect and their content indicate that Yes, they are
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Not enough asylums?
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@adeadpotato They say gender identity and sex are separate, but haven't been able to justify encroaching on spaces designated segregated based on sex, as an entitlement. Not even close They also haven't come close yet, to being able to justify the expectation that just because they present and identify in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must treat them as though they're the opposite sex. It's absurd. Can you make it make sense?
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If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access granted to female's private spaces like sports teams, prisons, restrooms, or locker rooms?
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@Maksie0 Triggered and f00lish aren't a good look for you. What better advice to take than your own? Beat it... Kick Rocks
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It should be delusional men vs women or men w/ a quirky fashion sense vs women
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@agh4149 They fail to realize that the 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female.
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@markusbaker1161 Nope.
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@Maksie0 You wouldn't understand. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender-- and you still get that wrong along with your statement that 'trans women are women that are trans'--- which is entirely wrong
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@Maksie0 Stop projecting. Why do you?
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@mariec3733 They are literally saying that trans women are women, so you're wrong about that too. If sex and gender are disconnected (They're not), then those men aren't justified in any way to be granted access via entitlement into women's private spaces-- is your point??
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@mariec3733 Your cult narrative and terminology is rejected. Gender-- there are 2, and they are fixed and permanent. No one in history has transitioned from male to female. Cope Harder
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What's phobic about recognizing that someone is not that which they claim to be?
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@markusbaker1161 F-Off Groomer
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@markusbaker1161 Go take a nap junior
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@markusbaker1161 Facial Feminization Surgerical procedures are actually real. Do a search on youtube for trans face lift and see for yourself. I'm not surprised you chose to say something so blatantly and provably false. It's NOT possible to have a real discussion here, as the censors delete, and shadow ban comments etc...
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@markusbaker1161 I am having my comments shadow banned-- this is now my 3rd attempt to reply but I'm over the target which exposes and shines some analytical insight and considerations re: the negative results and the numbers and types of negative results that are proving tragic.
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@graennleaf4769 Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. They appear to be misgendering themselves. How are they not?
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@markusbaker1161 No, It's Because I'm stating facts and asking questions which expose the logical fallacy of the ideological narrative that transwomen ARE women-- as they are not
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@markusbaker1161 Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 It's still appropriate and unrefuted. Are you ok?
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And prisons, and dressing rooms, and locker rooms, and sports leagues and sports teams??? Not very practical
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@CandyCoated96 In general men are less agreeable than women.
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@mariec3733 Your cult narrative is rejected
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@mariec3733 I don't take you seriously, and reject your cult narrative entirely. Men cannot become women, and vice versa. It's really simple. Gender-- There are 2 (male and female). The social aspects of gender being male and female-- are gender roles, which you're conflating with gender, personality traits and temperament.
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@markusbaker1161 Not me. I don't follow Islam. That's some nonsense you fools made up
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@markusbaker1161 Looks like you were wrong about that too. I'm not surprised, but find it amusing nonetheless. :face-green-smiling:
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@markusbaker1161 I don't know or care what that means, but I probably brought that up to contrast your narrative about respecting laws, because as I pointed out-- Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable... That's why sovereign nations have borders
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@markusbaker1161 Try to focus. I've made my case why I believe I'm correct, and you and your narratives are not. You, on the other hand, have not made yours. EVEN IF I agree that gender and sex are not connected (I don't)-- You STILL haven't explained how it is that those biological men are justified in being granted access into women's private spaces-- since you admit that you believe that sex isn't affected by or connected to gender, it doesn't make sense to say that trans women are women. Do you have any original thoughts on the challenges I brought up about your point of view, definitions and disjointed absence of logic in your narratives? If not-- We'll leave it at agreeing to disagree
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@markusbaker1161 To illustrate that you didn't respect their laws, when you made a snarky remark about the middle east-- when you said something else about the law re: trans
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@markusbaker1161 That was in the comment section of another video, on an unrelated topic involving mother's who delete their own children. Nonetheless-- it only serves as a distraction from your incoherent adherence to an ideology that just doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
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 @markusbaker1161 I don't know what ghuls are.
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@markusbaker1161 Ah... You appear to have given up on being relevant... It's of no consequence.
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@markusbaker1161 I don't recall the specific conversation or context-- so I can't say if I may have addressed specific people, or if I was making a more generalized comment. I don't have a problem with it either way. What's your fascination about?
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@markusbaker1161 In the early 70's, there was a cartoon called the Groovie Goolies. I never associated the word with any religious connotation.
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@markusbaker1161 No, that wasn't the point. I just always associated ghouls, ghosts, goblins, vampires, monsters, etc. with Halloween not the religion of Islam.
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@markusbaker1161 You get what you give, so I have no guilt about it-- but the nerve to act incensed about it as if it shouldn't be expected in return takes some nerve.
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@markusbaker1161 I reject your pushed, cult narrative and terminology. Respect is earned, so if you won't make a persuasive case-- as to why you believe those who you're putting your faith in are correct-- you aren't using your brain and aren't earning it, so expecting it should be shown to you- is in vain and totally unjustified. You've been nothing but disingenuous, and antagonistic-- not dissimilar to Blossom.
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@Maksie0 No matter how many time you repeat that ridiculous bumper sticker slogan-- it'll never be true. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Sex/Gender= 2 (Male, Female) Personality traits and temperament = Many (None are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, tomboys) Gender Roles (Vary from culture to culture, and country to country) ALL based around the various social aspects of being male or female, respectively in those various cultures, societies and countries
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@Maksie0 Just stop it. You're embarrassing yourself again. There are only males and females.
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How many kids have you raised into adulthood, who are happy, healthy, and successful?
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@markusbaker1161 And you??
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@markusbaker1161 You appear to believe your input is somehow relevant. hmmm
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@markusbaker1161 My 1st reply was to the OP regarding their statement. If you were following my lead, you'd have asked the question of the OP, not me. No worries... You've been exposed as an agitator
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@Madisonleekennedy How's that not a total red herring argument? I mean who would do that? But little kids have no need for that sort of information
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@Ca They're not 'trans' anything. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance w/ surgery, makeup and costume changes, as they are after
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@Ca Is it? How is that different from someone getting any other type of plastic surgery like a nose job, then pretending that it somehow changes your sex/gender?
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@Ca Getting a nose job doesn't change their sex/gender-- neither does putting on a dress, or makeup, etc.-- they're not trans. They're LARPing at best
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The sensor like crazy
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No, they have psych disorders preventing them from realizing it
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@conor.3875 No-- I have not
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@conor.3875 No, I haven't. Intersex is a biological genetic condition, not a psych issue
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@conor.3875 No, I acknowledge that there are males and females. Segments of each, present with various physical and psych conditions-- some with both. The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule-- they prove the rule, by being the exception. Now you know better
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@conor.3875 They are male or female, not both. Male w/ a genetic disorder or female w/ a genetic disorder, and none with the full function of Both sexes, and none presenting another sex in the binary, and often infertile. You sure are jumping through some intellectual hoops to try to maintain that there are more than 2 genders, and there are not.
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The thing is, Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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They fail to realize that the 1 requirement for being a woman is actually being a female
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@Maksie0 How do you figure? All women are born female
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@Maksie0 You don't even know what fascism is... Nothing is preventing trans people from using the restrooms that match their biology
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Correct... Women aren't a social construct, however-- trans women are
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@mariec3733 It appears you haven't read many of the comments here declaring that trans women are women. Trans is a social construct, which doesn't invalidate biology-- so why should those men be granted access to women's private spaces?
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@Maksie0 You should wear a helmet
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They are still women. Their feelings about objective reality, and wishing it were different don't affect reality in the slightest bit. Once a male, always a male. Once a female, always a female.
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There's nothing phobic about recognizing that they are not that which they claim to be... It just makes us observant.
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@omxar2876 A phobia is an irrational fear. Recognizing that they aren't that which they claim, isn't a matter of fear, nor is it irrational. It's got nothing to do with how we feel about their subjective identity. It's just observing that they aren't that, in objective reality. Like I said, it just makes us observant
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@omxar2876 It's no more phobic than recognizing that a child in a Halloween costume isn't actually the entity they're disguised as. Using condoms to avoid STD's isn't irrational at all. It's prudent
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@omxar2876 I see you have difficulty following simple analogies. The connection is found with those who are being observant of objective reality, and discerning the difference between reality and fantasy-- and those who fail to discern the difference. Hope that helps
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@Maksie0 Those women aren't men-- they'll always be women
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@Martha-w7w9b Being "Trans" IS the construct, based in fantasy. Cope Harder. Same as he ever was. A costume change and altering one's appearance doesn't change their sex/gender
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@StyleS_ How many children have you raised?
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@Ey3_s0cEt.4.20. You still don't know? A woman is an adult, human, female. Now you know
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@Maksie0 Yes, it is
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@petemiller2920 Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally because of a psych disorder or for attention, or Both. That you can't wrap your head around that is a YOU problem. Just Cope Harder
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@glassietassy1625 Why are you misgendering him? That dude isn't any kind of woman, making it grammatically incorrect to refer to him as she or her. Women (ALL of them) are born female and that dude wasn't, and isn't any kind of woman whatsoever
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@Maksie0 What the supposed swindle??? You're FOS
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@Maksie0 Same w/ preferred pronouns-- yes
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@markusbaker1161 The OP brought it up-- Not me. I was just being relevant.
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@markusbaker1161 Funny how relevant considerations always apply huh
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@markusbaker1161 Not as much time as so many others spend trying to deny reality, in the name of being something they are not
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@markusbaker1161 Finding themselves? I suppose I agree that they're lost. Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 They don't find themselves becoming the opposite sex. The best they can do is attempt to look the part
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@markusbaker1161 It is-- and my opinion is more important than yours, and apparently those trying to make an argument believe they need to persuade me and those like me-- So, make of that what you will. They seem to think it's of value to advocate their ideas and have them be supported by society at large, and I don't see that they have done so sufficiently enough to persuade the majority of people. If you do-- That's wonderful. Have fun, and quit worrying about stalking me and my every comment, as if it does matter.
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@markusbaker1161 I see no need. I have already proven it to myself, and you've failed to persuade otherwise
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@markusbaker1161 Because psych disorders are real
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@markusbaker1161 I discern that you're inappropriately using the term transgender people, as one synonymous to mean men presenting as that which they are not-- women, and/or women presenting as that which they can never be-- men. They're not trans anything. I see no reason why those men should be allowed to infiltrate women's spaces, sports or anything else because of their "Feelings", since they're MEN
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@markusbaker1161 I know what they defined it as. I'm saying it's irrelevant. I'm not upset. I'm just pointing out that the definition they present doesn't alter the fact that they're men, who present as women, and women who present as men, and that just doesn't make it so-- even if they REEEAALLY, REEeeeeEEAAAAAAAlly believe it. The reason for people presenting as something they're not is of no concern to reality or truth
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@markusbaker1161 Ya, I really couldn't care less if you or anyone else chooses to misuse the word phobia. It's of no consequence. I'm not entering your popularity contest. There's nothing irrational nor fear-based involved in recognizing that men are not women, regardless of how sincere you are when you're telling yourself that.
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@markusbaker1161 You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and have not justified allowing men to infiltrate women's private places, like restrooms, locker rooms, sports teams and prisons because of their subjective identity claims. Why do you hate, and disrespect women so much?
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@markusbaker1161 All you'e done is deflect and attempt to redirect. You've refuted nothing Nonetheless, my observations regarding your comments are that you have not illustrated any respect for women and their private spaces by advocating in favor of men being allowed to infiltrate their spaces. Why, according to you-- should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim that they're women.
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@markusbaker1161 How pathetically sad... though illustratively narcissistic of you to frame it, as though it's all about you. Your attention-seeking behavior is noted, and it's not a great look for you. You need better material. Why should men (regardless of you renaming them Trans-women, transgender, or whatever-- they're still men) be granted access to women's private spaces, based on their subjective identity claims, which aren't validated by objective reality?? Nothing still? Shocker... 🙄
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@markusbaker1161 Do You? Dismiss yourself
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@markusbaker1161 If that's true, you certainly have posted any of it when asked. Until then, the 'because you said so' standard is rejected.
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@Alexavian Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh There's a prerequisite to being a woman and that's being born female, and those dudes were not
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@catboyash No they aren't. A woman is an adult, human, female. Restrooms are designed and implemented based on biology, not subjective identity. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 You're the one who's triggered, so much so that you're stalking my every comment, and getting stumped with every question dismantling the rhetoric you're pushing, and exposing the holes in your arguments. :face-blue-smiling::face-turquoise-covering-eyes::body-green-covering-eyes::face-turquoise-drinking-coffee:
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@markusbaker1161 They already have been. The biological science validates what I've written, and the psych science has clearly defined dissociative disorders. Your failure to recognize or comprehend them is all you babe
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@markusbaker1161 Nope... You're again, inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with sex/gender, as if they were synonymous and they aren't
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@markusbaker1161 The fact is that males who don't identify with their biology are still males-- and that seems to trigger you and cause you angst, and confusion. Anyway... You've not cited anything whatsoever, which has invalidated anything I've written by proving me incorrect. According to the psych science, what you're talking about is categorized under the umbrella of dissociative disorders.
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@markusbaker1161 We also know the facts about Dissociative Disorders. One of those facts is that they do not change biology from male to female or vice versa
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@markusbaker1161 I'm correct, and you've not proven otherwise.
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@markusbaker1161 You're not qualified to say, and you've proven nothing which invalidates anything I've written
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@markusbaker1161 You keep saying that without offering up any evidence to support your claim. Men cannot become women, and trans women are men. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 Yes it is, and yes it does. it's just that facts and the truth that trans women are men bothers you-- because you hate women and wish to encroach on their rights
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@markusbaker1161 I'm definitely correct. Your confusion doesn't change that. You've shown that you're either intellectually impaired and/or confused about the facts and the truth that trans women are men. You not knowing what to make of that, doesn't make your analysis or conclusions correct, and it definitely doesn't prove me incorrect.
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@markusbaker1161 Looks like you're still triggered and seeking negative attention again. You should get a help. Your cognitive dissonance seems to making it difficult for you to conduct yourself like an intelligent adult, with integrity. smh :face-turquoise-covering-eyes:🙄
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Using 'Cis' is intellectually vacant, as there is only 1 kind of woman-- and they're ALL born female, making the use of 'cis' irrelevant and totally useless
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@firstofawll A woman is an adult, human, female, so how do you figure he's a woman? Make it make sense
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@firstofawll What's your point? That they're not the same but you use the terms as if they are?
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@firstofawll When you said trans women are women. Women aren't social constructs, and if sex and gender are separate and disconnected you're conflating sex and gender, so make it make sense.
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@markusbaker1161 Google it
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@markusbaker1161 Then, enjoy not knowing
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@markusbaker1161 Don't Care one way or the other. I'm not willing to care more about your not knowing then you do
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@markusbaker1161 Your concerns are not important or of interest. One minute you don't care, the next you're virtue signaling as though you do. I couldn't care less about your state of ignorance, as you've proven to my satisfaction to have no integrity
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@markusbaker1161 You've already proven yourself to be an agent provocateur with no integrity. You couldn't be any less relevant. Make of that what you will. I don't care... you're just not that important.
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@markusbaker1161 So?
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@markusbaker1161 There are people. They are male or female. This is not controversial.
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@markusbaker1161 If gender is a social construct, having nothing to do with biology, so is trans-gender. That being said, why should those males have access to female's private spaces?
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In the Special Olympics
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Ya think? LOL That dude is WAAYYY out there
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Blossom comes across like a non-credible, paid activist agent provocateur, who's shoe size dwarfs his IQ
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It's called parenting
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@catboyash That's wrong
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@Maksie0 Don't care. Restrooms are based on biology and those dudes have no business in a woman's restroom. Cope Harder
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@Maksie0 They're dudes, they aren't any kind of woman,and they never can be.
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@Maksie0 Your approval isn't required. That sound, is the sound of rejection. You better learn to cope with it
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@Ey3_s0cEt.4.20. There are no trans people. There are males and females... That's it.
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He fails to realize that the 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being female-- and he's not that-- regardless of his attire
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Because men present a bigger threat to women than women do to men, seems like the obvious answer to me
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How many kids have you raised who've become well-adjusted, productive members of society?
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@ChiChisWorld LOL... Were you 4 when you got her mother pregnant? Get Real Kid
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@ChiChisWorld Nah... I'm nearly 60, with a son, in his 30's. Going by your channel content, you should be embarrassed for that, at your age. Social contagion is a real phenomenon, that you're free to pretend doesn't exist. Parents are responsible for providing the foundation of their children's sense of morality, and instilling self-restraint to adequately prepare them to socialize and co-exist positively with others. 'Anything goes' or accept anything-- doesn't get it done.
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@ChiChisWorld Being the vast minority who buy into this incoherent ideological narrative already, and then with self-delete rates being so much higher than the general population... I'm not too worried about it
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@ChiChisWorld I'm not mad. I accept that there are people, and some of them have psych disorders, some physical disorders, some have both.
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@ChiChisWorld Nothing you can do to stop people from recognizing and choosing reality. Study's show that approximately 80% desist and end up gay, and about 50% of them will self terminate. They're a de@th cult
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@ChiChisWorld Disney, Target, and Budweiser can tell you different
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@ChiChisWorld And they've all been losing a crap ton of market share, hemorrhaging $$ while they're at it. Fine by me 🤡 You seem triggered about the fact that men can't become women and that women can't become men, and that most people don't have difficulty deciphering the differences between men and women. The vast majority of people on earth reject the trans-activist ideological narratives, so you better learn to cope harder-- if you think people are motivated to deny reality, and participate in the trans delusion, LARP and cosplay, as though it's based in reality-- because they don't buy it. You fail to persuade. Own it, and move on
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@Maksie0 Evidence of being a grifter??? Get back under your bridge-- troll
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“The truth has no defense against a fool determined to believe a lie.”
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@mariec3733 Nah, she would just point out that there isn't any science anywhere proving men can become women.
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@mr.mclibtard5015 That fool will fail to acknowledge that a puppy is a dog, just as they think they're being clever by trying to point out that females develop into women in adulthood-- and that the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female.
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@Maksie0 Well, that isn't very lady-like. You go ahead first. I'm a gentleman. :person-turqouise-waving:
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Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@Maksie0 How cute, you seem to think you have some credibility... That's wrong. You have none
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@Maksie0 When you dress up like a woman, you look like a Ferengi
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What do you respect about each side?
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@Maksie0 Why not? How do you know? Evidence??
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@ricolascivamente That dude maksie0 is who I was replying to, and they're an activist troll.
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@ricolascivamente Lucky you... You're not missing anything relevant
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@ricolascivamente I'm not making fun of him. I'm challenging his absurd, cult, ideology.
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Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally, so how do you figure?
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@markusbaker1161 They're not women. You're hilarious too. You may not recognize the difference between a Ferrari and a kit car-- But I do, and it doesn't mean I hate kit cars. It means I discern the difference. Hope that helps clarify things for you
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@markusbaker1161 Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 I mean, I can't be held responsible for your perceptive capacity or lack thereof. If men aren't suffering from gender dysphoria and they dress like, and present as women, they're just engaging in cosplay. Coincidentally, if they do suffer w/ gender dysphoria, their dissociative delusions don't transform them into women, even after altering their appearance w/ surgery either
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@markusbaker1161 So? Neither become women as a result of their belief nor do they become women due to their elaborate costume change or effort to make changes in appearance.
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@markusbaker1161 You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and have not justified allowing men to infiltrate women's private places like restrooms,locker rooms,sports teams and prisons, because of their subjective identity claims. Why do you hate and have such a disrespect for women?
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@markusbaker1161 Never said you were. I'm not responsible for affirming or validating some dude in a dress or their feelings about their subjective identity, which are contrary to objective reality. You are however, responsible for how you conduct yourself and your failure to make your case is a matter of record
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@markusbaker1161 Cite some of the studies you've read. Did any of them show a decrease? If no, how does that illustrate successful treatment?
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And dressing rooms, locker rooms, sports teams and prisons too? Not really doable in context
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@markusbaker1161 You said you could refute me, and yet-- you've done no such thing anywhere, or at anytime and you've failed to do so yet again. You've got nothing
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@markusbaker1161 If that were true, there would be some evidence to prove it, BUT-- Nothing yet
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@markusbaker1161 Men cannot become women, and there's ZERO evidence to the contrary
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@markusbaker1161 Nope, Still ZERO evidence of them transitioning into anything but cheap knockoff, counterfeit imitations of real women-- Still men; and then there are those who de-transition, who clearly weren't done transitioning-- Obviously The 1 prerequisite to being a woman is being a female, and those men (trans or not) can't ever be that
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@markusbaker1161 I recognize them, but as men who've chosen to make themselves a caricature of the women they wish they could be. I didn't make them do that. You appear triggered, that I'm not fooled by their disguises, and that I recognize that they're still men, but with a quirky fashion sense, some of whom who've had plastic surgery-- and that regardless of you calling them trans-women, I recognize that they're still men. Like I said, the 1 prerequisite to being a woman is actually being a female-- and those men aren't that. Hope that clarifies it for you
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Yes
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@Maksie0 And you believe that?? H I L A R I O U S!!! Women are ALL born female. How do you not realize this?
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Ya, men can't be women. This is not complicated
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@markusbaker1161 Terrible term. They're the same sex/gender as they were prior to changing their wardrobe, surgery, and/or using makeup. They're men in a costume, not trans anything
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@markusbaker1161 I never said it was. It's one that you use constantly though-- and the fact that others use that term, doesn't make men in costumes women either So... Make of that what you will There's a difference between not acknowledging someone and acknowledging that someone is not who or what they claim to be
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@markusbaker1161 Knowing that a phobia is an irrational fear, I find your comment extraordinarily ignorant as there's no fear irrational or otherwise in recognizing that men aren't women. The way you use that silly label is meaningless.
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@markusbaker1161 No prejudice -- strong or otherwise-- nor dislike, and I've never discussed my feelings on the matter-- so how do you figure that fits?
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@markusbaker1161 How do you figure I have a prejudice in play? Prejudice is forming an opinion before becoming aware of the relevant facts of a case. The facts are, they're men not women, and shouldn't be infiltrating women's spaces like restrooms, sports teams, locker rooms or in prisons, because they're Men Why such disdain, hate, and a lack of respect for women, that you would advocate that men should be allowed to infiltrate their private spaces?
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@markusbaker1161 Who needs to be a doctor to recognize the difference between men and women? I've been discussing observations not opinions. Try to focus
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@markusbaker1161 Nonetheless, my observations regarding your comments are that you have not illustrated any respect for women and their private spaces by advocating in favor of men being allowed to infiltrate their spaces. Why, according to you-- should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim that they're women.
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@markusbaker1161 That didn't answer the question. Why, according to you-- should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Are you incapable of answering because you can't due to incompetence or due the the fact that it's unjustifiable, or BOTH??
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@markusbaker1161 You need better material. Why should men (regardless of you renaming them Trans-women-- they're still men) be granted access to women's private spaces, based on their subjective identity claims, which aren't validated by objective reality?? Nothing still? Shocker... 🙄 Try to be relevant
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@TokyoDogz One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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Men aren't as big a threat to other men, as they are to women
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@Maksie0 No doubt. You're confused about the differences between males and females
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That dude is unhinged from reality. Not all trans people suffer with dysphoria (OR, are the trans-activists saying that they all do?), but they all do have a way higher risk of self deleting than the rest of the of the general population, so I see it as a more pressing underlying issue to address, than a mere matter of cosmetics. The argument in favor of affirmative care is, if you don't let them transition that they'll self-delete. Well, they seem to do that even if you do let them transition, so as far as I'm concerned it's an invalid argument. Not having coping mechanisms to deal with the adversity one faces in life is a psych issue, that surgery doesn't alleviate-- which begs the questioning of affirmation-based treatment protocols, along with the ethics of those who do
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@Maksie0 How much are you getting paid to be an activist shill, playing a f00l?
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Biological is the only kind of female, and they remain female after they transition.
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@lydiawilder5996 The word is literally in the Bible dating back thousands of years. Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders -- who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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They're activists
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The viewership would be less than the WNBA. That said, nothing is stopping them from creating their own leagues
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not upset. Just observant and outspoken. There are no studies anywhere proving that a trans-woman is not a biological male. What more do you need to know?
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@markusbaker1161 Using trans rights as way to violate women's rights to privacy, by allowing those men access-- is misogyny at it's finest
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@markusbaker1161 No need. There's no debate about XX and XY chromosomes existing and what they do, and there aren't any studies anywhere proving that trans--women aren't biological males. so YOU prove they have any business being in women's private spaces. Justify it.
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@markusbaker1161 No it hasn't. The laws you're referring to, may have legalized the encroachment on women's rights, but it hasn't justified it and neither have you.
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@markusbaker1161 You believe laws in the middle east regarding women and gays is justified-- because they're laws. Got it
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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They look more like, Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then your identity is not valid, is the majority view on the topic-- to me. It looks to me like too many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender, as if they were synonymous, and that there are a lot more people who recognize that they are not
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Women aren't a social construct; trans women however, Are
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@babs_babs That's the sound of rejection. Get used to it
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@loganovercash All of these activist f00ls argue for argument's sake. Their capacity for logic and reason is not in play
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@jasonb111222 Trans is the REAL construct. It is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. The why is irrelevant, as far as objective reality is concerned
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You can't un-crack and egg, and that dude is scrambled
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If they realized that the nail that stands up, gets pounded down-- so, if they just quit making a spectacle of themselves-- they might have an easier time walking through life without as much angst
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People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and prior. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules, it has nothing to do with gender.
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, it is. In any case, Women are women and men are men-- regardless of how they self-identify, so using cis is redundant and none of anyone's concern but yours and the trans clowns you endorse
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@markusbaker1161 The explanation has been in the DSM, and it was only reclassified 5 seconds ago, by the activist hacks you're relying on. The only one fooled into thinking it's normal is you and yours-- the vast minority that you are
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@markusbaker1161 If you can't tell the difference and are convinced that men dressed up as women are women-- That's on you.
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@markusbaker1161 You framing truth as lies doesn't make your case.
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@markusbaker1161 Nope
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@markusbaker1161 No need
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@markusbaker1161 No need. Women and men aren't social constructs, so it's irrelevant how they feel about their anatomy. Why do you believe that their feelings about their identity is relevant, if gender and sex are separate?
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@markusbaker1161 How is sex and gender being separate (according to you) relevant? You seem to conflate them
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@markusbaker1161 It isn't true that feelings about gender alter their biology into the opposite sex. Those men are still men-- regardless of their socially constructed identity, which is in conflict with their biology.
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@markusbaker1161 You also can't change the fact that men cannot become women and vice versa
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@markusbaker1161 Nope, still men
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@markusbaker1161 potato/potahto still men
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@markusbaker1161 No, that's why they're still men. Changing what you call them doesn't change them. Still men Their self-perceptions about their gender doesn't change them into something other than men
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@markusbaker1161 That's why they're called out for insanity
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@markusbaker1161 🐑 You're the one who can't articulate why you believe the narrative you're peddling is correct, mainly because you're just wrong
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@markusbaker1161 Your obtuse take away is pathetic
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@markusbaker1161 The entire ideological narrative is incoherent madness. They're men, not women, and they aren't trans anything-- all they've done is alter their appearance, and unnaturally altered their chemistry. Still men
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@markusbaker1161 You already lost the debate. I don't expect you to admit it. The number of people who reject what you're peddling is enormous, and is enough. The problem you have is that your nonsense is not based in reality, and requires everyone's participation-- and it seems the crowd has spoken and the answer is No. Cope harder
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@markusbaker1161 The push back against your endorsed narratives, by medical professionals-- is already under way, but thanks for the suggestion
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@markusbaker1161 Says the troll pushing a narrative
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@markusbaker1161 What you 'know' and claim to be facts are rejected as absurd nonsense. Your blind faith in the cult narrative is your prerogative.
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@markusbaker1161 The trouble is not ignorance; it's just that you know so much that just isn't so. Still, No trace of an explanation of why you believe what you assert to be true and accurate, or to prove what I said to be inaccurate.
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@JJ-zb7id Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh There's a prerequisite to being a woman, and that's being born female-- and those dudes were not
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No clue either
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One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@Maksie0 No they aren't. Trans women are men with issues, pretending that they're women without issues. Women who are trans are trans men, according to your own cult narrative. You just can't keep it straight huh?
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No... The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@Maksie0 Looks like an anti-social personality disorder coupled with an attention seeking disorder gone unchecked
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@markusbaker1161 I didn't diagnose anything. I just articulated what it looks like
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@markusbaker1161 You spelled 'observations' incorrectly
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@markusbaker1161 Touch grass
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@markusbaker1161 Not even as deep as a baby spoon. PASS
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@markusbaker1161 There's no debate about XX and XY chromosomes existing and what they do, and there aren't any studies anywhere proving that trans--women aren't biological males. so YOU prove they have any business being in women's private spaces. Justify it.
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@Maksie0 Why do you ask?
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@conor.3875 There's only 1 kind of woman-- and they're all born female-- making cis totally useless and irrelevant
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@Maksie0 trans women are men who altered their appearance, not women anything
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@markusbaker1161 You can rename a banana a peach-- it's still what it is, a banana. Men are always going to be men. They aren't trans anything You're welcome
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@markusbaker1161 Humans as a whole are male or female. Men who alter their appearance do not become women. Not complicated
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@markusbaker1161 I recognize the definition of gender as addressing the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Correct that's not the same comparison. That doesn't change the fact that they aren't women and can never be-- because they're males
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is the REAL construct my friend
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@markusbaker1161 Yup-- because I said so.
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@markusbaker1161 Neither does everyone else who disagrees with you, but we do and there's WAY more of us than you. You're still worng
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@markusbaker1161 How are they-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? And I asked, Why should those men who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria be granted access to women's private spaces? You got nuthin Blossom
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Dip, Duck, Dive, and Dodge
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@markusbaker1161 You're such a drama queen. I've challenged the notions, claims and ideology and haven't had anyone refute my challenges. Plenty of trolls-- like you, arguing for sport, but nothing substantive from any of them. I get that your cognitive dissonance is in play, but that's just amusing to me
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@markusbaker1161 Take your theory to a Muslim country and test it. Here in the USA we have freedom of speech, so Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 Cope Harder. You fail to persuade. Men cannot become women and vice versa. Deal with it
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@markusbaker1161 What law is that?
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@markusbaker1161 What country?
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@markusbaker1161 I can't find anything other than natural human rights, so if they're different than that I can't say since you've again failed to define them or specifically cite the Code
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@amandabynes5993 Quit inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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Seed of the serpent vs the seed of the woman at play
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They're not trans anything. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after. Society isn't obligated to revamp itself for a minority of people w/ psych issues. They need to adapt to society. They're attempting to invert the relationship
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@Rumbu_P Nah... Nature has a way of thinning the herd
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They're men. As it turns out, there is a prerequisite to being a woman, and that's being born female and those dudes were not
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@Maksie0 How do you figure? That dude will never be a female, so using 'she' is grammatically incorrect.
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@conor.3875 Wow you're confused about a whole host of things. Your cult narrative and terminology is rejected. Gender-- there are 2, and they are fixed and permanent. No one in history has transitioned from male to female. Cope Harder
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It's unadulterated misogyny. Those are men, they will always be men. Their imaginations, subjective personality traits and temperament don't change the fact that those "trans women" aren't trans anything-- They're men
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*He
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Yup... He's an activist, agent provocateur
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Trans women are NOT women. A woman is an adult, human, female-- and those men aren't that.
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@markusbaker1161 How are trans women, according to you-- adult, human, females? LOL THAT's VERY Wrong
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is a social construct. Women are not. A woman is an adult, human, female which is a biological category. Make it make sense The law defines a woman as an adult, human, female. Science proves the differences between the sexes, and medicine hasn't made it possible for men to become women; it's only made it possible to alter one's appearance. Your cult is rejected
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@mariec3733 Hence trans women are still men. Stay tf out of women's private spaces. Women aren't a social construct. Pretty simple
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@markusbaker1161 You're rambling incoherently again.
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@markusbaker1161 I've made my case, why I believe I'm correct and you are not. You, on the other hand, have not made yours-- so you're dismissed as less than relevant
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@markusbaker1161 It seems all you can compute is confirmation bias. Wrong guy here. I've made my case and You, on the other hand-- have not made yours. EVEN IF I agree that gender and sex are not connected (I don't)-- You STILL haven't explained how it is that those biological men are justified in being granted access into women's private spaces-- since you admit that you believe that sex isn't affected by or connected to gender, it doesn't make sense to say that trans women are women. Do you have any original thoughts on the challenges I brought up about your point of view, definitions and disjointed absence of logic in your narratives? I already told you-- If not, We'll have to leave it at agreeing to disagree
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@markusbaker1161 Run away from adult interaction. smh...
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@markusbaker1161 All I asked was, Do you have any original thoughts on the challenges I brought up about your point of view, definitions and disjointed absence of logic in your narratives? I already told you-- If not, We'll have to leave it at agreeing to disagree. You disingenuous interactions with me are long established already, so let's not pretend your behavior says otherwise
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@markusbaker1161 i challenged what you assert are facts with questions about the conclusions you believe to be true and correct, and you had no response but disingenuous antagonism, deflection, and playing the part of a fool. I am still open to having an intellectually sound, adult conversation with anyone interested, but you seem to instead prefer juvenile sparring sessions free from integrity. That's your choice, but it isn't conducive to a productive dialogue-- so that's where we're at.
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@markusbaker1161 You've rendered yourself obsolete. You say trans women are women-- which conflicts with the law's definition of a woman. FACT Don't care to discuss this with you any longer. I've said what I intended, and you've ignored what I wrote and failed to engage in honest dialogue.
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@markusbaker1161 You can play your semantics game disingenuously, like you are-- Stop pretending you don't know what I'm asking. Don't care to discuss this with you any longer. I've said what I intended, and you've ignored what I wrote and failed to engage in honest dialogue.
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@sydney6818 Get Real
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@purrsnickety8269 Tell Blossom that there is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the use of 'cis' entirely useless and irrelevant.
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@maddigotnojams1964 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the use of 'cis' entirely irrelevant and useless
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Have you compete in your own weight class, seems to be the obvious answer
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They aren't trans anything. Still male or female-- only.
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@Maksie0 That's wrong
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@late8641 Your feelings about objective reality and wishing it were different, don't affect reality in the slightest bit. Once a male, always a male. Once a female, always a female. Quit conflating personality with gender
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@aversiontoevil 80% of black kids are raised in single mother homes without father's, and it is those mother's-- who are piloting the ship so to speak, as to the directions their sons and daughters are on in this modern cluster f!ck of a society.
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@Maksie0 Nope... trans men are women who are portraying the caricature of men. You need a better line. Men don't need to 'trans' anything to be men
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They aren't trans ANYTHING. They're LARPing at BEST
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Cis/trans are attempts by radical ideologues to distract from the fact that there is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- and that ALL men are born male, with zero exceptions, so they can pretend that their LARP and cosplay is based in reality
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@elizabethgutierrez5709 The biological reality of male or female isn't even up for a debate. That's a biological category which is fixed and permanent. The entire ideological narrative is incoherent madness. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. They're conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not. Then they conflate gender and gender roles as though they're synonymous, and they are not. It's absurd incoherent confusion on their part
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@Maksie0 How did you know? omg... You, could be in the circus as a fortune teller or something.
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@Maksie0 Your ignorance appears self-induced
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They hate women. Make no mistake.
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@vanthonvenus If that dude can't bother to respect the fact others don't wish to be referred to by cis and then continues-- he has no expectation of any respect or consideration about his subjective identity and how others refer to him
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Misandry-- Your name is Victoria Holden
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Regardless, they're men-- neither are women
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@behemothsbaby Both men. Not a judgement-- rather a mere observation of fact that trans women are men, as are drag queens and cross dressers
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Who would ever presume these confused men possessed the capacity for clarity of thought or of rational thought and logic? rhetorical
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Listen closely... You hear that sound? That's the sound of women and men rejecting the incoherent ideological narrative, en masse. They aren't trans anything. They're exactly the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do
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@conor.3875 Budweiser called, and said to tell you this woke, trans activist ideology is backfiring BIG Time.
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@markusbaker1161 No, I'm not... Go read the medical studies I already provided you. If reading comprehension is an issue, have your mom read them for you
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@markusbaker1161 It's as though you fail to recognize that the comments are still there. I challenged your assertions and narratives, and you failed to step up to refute my challenges. No big deal. You're not the 1st and won't be the last
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@markusbaker1161 Yawn... Your nonsense is boring now. Grow up! You've been exposed as being the agitator, activist that you are, and your substance free commentary is... well, it's just boring.
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@conor.3875 Men identifying as other than men are still men. The world doesn't owe them anything. It's for them to adapt to the world
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@conor.3875 No, it contains males and females. That's it... Your personality doesn't change your gender. Whoever convinced you of that really pulled one over on you
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@Nonyah123 They're inappropriately conflating personality with gender leading to a whole bunch of confusion on their part
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@TIaftaDtIs Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@gilnahnu I would argue that they're only altering their appearance, and are not transitioning into anything else. Same as they ever were, barring extensive plastic surgery, genital mutilation, makeup and a wardrobe change.
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@markusbaker1161 Are you?
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@markusbaker1161 Not dissimilar to your assertions then, the difference being the facts and reasoning validating my opinions, and the lack of any-- with yours
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@markusbaker1161 Me too... Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 Angry? Why do you presume I'm anger? I'm not angry. I'm just observant of the fact that the best they can do is try to look the part. It changes nothing
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@markusbaker1161 I couldn't care less how they look. I'm just observing that they are attempting to look like something they are not, and can never be. Theirs is the obsession. Mine is merely the observation that they're not the sex/gender they present as
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@markusbaker1161 My comments are that they are not that which they present themselves as. When insisting obsessively that society must ignore biological reality, for their subjective identities-- those identities are not valid. You're not a doctor and are talking about healthy now? You don't even adhere to your own supposed standards. Looks like virtue-free, virtue signaling from here
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@markusbaker1161 According to a Swedish study, Long-term follow-up of transsexual persons undergoing sex reassignment surgery: cohort study in Sweden "Conclusions: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, sui***al behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."
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They already have the same rights as everyone else. Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender -- as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@jasperwilliams1055 Why do you dismiss the opposing medical experts and professional's assessment and their reasoning?
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@mariec3733 Don't be lazy. If you're interested, do some research on the topic. The treatments don't seem to help the already inflated cases of trans people who self-delete at nearly 10x's the expected rate compared to the overall population, even after surgery-- isn't an evidence showing the current treatment protocols as successful treatment, as far as I'm concerned.
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not publishing a scientific paper on the subject. The stats are in, and the cited sources are listed. They're established facts. Go do some research, use some critical thinking and analysis and compare. You have internet access. Use it for something productive for a change
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@mariec3733 Do you have any evidence to support that claim? At a time when there's no stigma to being gay anymore? You can look back in history and you don't see that giant swing of people self deleting going up. It's up now. Gaslight harder
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They say gender identity and sex are separate, but haven't been able to justify encroaching on spaces designated segregated based on sex, as an entitlement. Not even close They also haven't come close yet, to being able to justify the expectation that just because they present and identify in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must treat them as though they're the opposite sex. It's absurd. Make it make sense
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People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and prior. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender.
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They'd have a smaller viewership than the WNBA
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@markusbaker1161 Not surprisingly, you got it wrong-- Again. I don't care if they start their own leagues... I don't think anyone else is obligated to do that for them, was the point I was making. They should do it themselves if that's what they want to do, but I stand by my point that it would draw less viewership than the WNBA
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@markusbaker1161 No they don't. They're subsidized by the NBA
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@PotatoSlices Exactly correct 🎯
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@herionlover693 They're not ANY kind of woman. The prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. A woman isn't a costume, feeling, or a social construct. She's an adult, human, female-- and those dudes are not and never will be
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Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Gender and Personality-- They haven't learned the difference. There's only one kind of woman, and they are all born females, so... using the cis prefix is totally redundant and unnecessary. The entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh There are males and females. That's it! Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct; She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals specifically humans. Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1. The body and brain develop & grow together -> One simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2. Hating a part of their body so much that they opt to cut it off, despite it functioning properly-- is a mental illness.
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@catboyash At a time when being gay is totally celebrated? That doesn't make any sense
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@Jonathan A I recommend being relevant, in the future
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@markusbaker1161 If that were true, you'd easily be able to cite something invalidating what I wrote-- But NOPE... Nothing whatsoever
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@markusbaker1161 Dissociative disorders are clearly defined by the "authorities", as those involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self. That you can't figure out the relevance is on you. 😏😮🧐
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@markusbaker1161 It's a definition, not a diagnosis. Try to focus
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@markusbaker1161 Not being a veterinarian, are you unable to recognize a cat, bird or a dog? You're ridiculous
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@markusbaker1161 My condolences on your inability to comprehend analogies. Being a human, your inability to decipher the differences between men and women is pathetic and sad
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@markusbaker1161 I'm correct, and you've not proven otherwise
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@markusbaker1161 You haven't proven that AT ALL
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 @markusbaker1161 You haven't disproved anything I've written, nor cited anything to prove your statements
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@markusbaker1161 Of course, the truth that trans women are men can't be disputed honestly -- but that doesn't seem to stop you from making triggered noise about it
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@markusbaker1161 You're still stuck on thinking that men can become women. It's just that facts and the truth that trans women are men is foreign to you, so you don't know what to make of it
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Koo koo for cocoa puffs
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The biological reality of male or female isn't even up for a debate. That's a biological category which is fixed and permanent. The entire ideological narrative is incoherent madness. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. They're conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles as though they're synonymous, and they are not. It's absurd incoherent confusion on their part
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@markusbaker1161 Hey trans clown, That expression doesn't make them women or trans anything-- similarly, cross dressers or drag queens expressions don't make them that which they portray. Best of luck with that cognitive dissonance
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@markusbaker1161 Excellent job of avoiding the salient point, as usual
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@markusbaker1161 We disagree on the relevance of your position. The social aspects of gender (Gender roles) are directly connected to the biological reality that there are differences between the sexes (Gender).
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@markusbaker1161 Meaning those men are still men, so stay out of women's private spaces
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@markusbaker1161 Men cannot become women and vice versa. Cry harder
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The word womanhood (n.) late 14c., "condition of being a woman," also "qualities or characteristics considered natural to a woman," from woman + -hood. Meaning "women collectively" is attested from 1520s.
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@n0namesowhatblerp362 Ya, trans is the construct, based in fantasy
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Evidence?
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@mariec3733 Men are victims of violent crime more than women, and they commit more violent crimes. Look it up
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@middlechild1267 That doesn't make sense. Africa had colonialism too, and as you pointed out; In Africa there is no historical record to back that claim up
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@middlechild1267 You missed the point entirely. Because they don't have any record of trans ANYTHING-- 'colonialism' can't be the cause, since they did have colonialism. Make sense?
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@middlechild1267 The minority of people who buy into this incoherent (imo) ideology don't represent "Western Beliefs", as they are a vast minority. Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable... That's why sovereign nations have borders, and the content of Africa has 54 countries, with lots of different values and cultures who are rivals of one another, are there not? I see conflict between Arabs and the rest of the Muslim world too. Don't you?
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@Bluescorpio They're misgendering themselves. They aren't that which they claim to be. They're LARPing at best
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@globesareround Get a clue jess... Respect is earned and is reserved for that which is respectable. There is no phobia in recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim to be. It's just being observant, and discerning objective reality from their fantasy and imagination. I also wouldn't advocate in favor of, encourage or affirm that an anorexic should keep dieting to lose more weight. Would You? I use people's names when communicating directly with them. Don't you? You wouldn't use pronouns to address someone, when speaking directly to them. You'd use them when speaking to someone else about them. They're a mere caricature of what they wish they were, and will NEVER be-- a woman. A woman is an adult, human female-- and he isn't that. It's just factually incorrect to say that a trans-woman is a woman. They are not trans anything. They're LARPing in cosplay at BEST He's the exact same sex/gender prior to altering his appearance, as he is after.
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@Maksie0 No, they aren't groomer-- they're a VERY VERY small minority.
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These are emotionally troubled and intellectually stunted men
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@markusbaker1161 That's the best you've got?
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@markusbaker1161 Read the DSM
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@markusbaker1161 You can pretend that dudes who are willing to mutilate their body's and pretend they're the opposite sex are well-adjusted if you like. They're not
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@markusbaker1161 What part of any science proves they're women? You have nothing
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@Maksie0 Act your age. The prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. Your inability to process that indicates you're kinda slow. You only need to be able to read the studies and the DSM definitions that explains them; Until about 5 seconds ago when the hacks you rely on changed the classifications. The only ones fooled are you and yours-- which are the vast vast minority.
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@markusbaker1161 ZERO f~*ks given about what you're waiting for. I'm still waiting for you to prove that men can become women
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@markusbaker1161 I'm saying, there's no science anywhere backing your claims that men can become women. You can pretend that men in women's attire are women if you like, but they aren't fooling everyone. They mostly aren't fooling anyone, and neither are you
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@markusbaker1161 Still don't see any proof that men can become women and vice versa. Until I do-- You have nothing
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@markusbaker1161 Step 1-- Breathe (in through your nose, and out of your mouth) Step 2. Get a Clue
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@Athyxer No, you can't. trans men are biological females
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@mariec3733 You can neuter your dog, paint his nails, dress him in a dress and it doesn't make him a female dog. Just sayin
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It is a term referring to living things or biology.
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@Maksie0 You don't know what you need
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Why?
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Not much of a refutation. What is being referred to as "transgender women", are men--by any other name, still men. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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No... Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent and are not a social construct. Gender and biology aren't disconnected. They're intrinsically linked
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@ItsSchwifty Again-- You've refuted nothing. Do Better. You fail to persuade
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@scarbyfar People are male or female (That's it) and that status is fixed and permanent. Trans women are men with issues, pretending that they're women without issues.
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@RoachIndited The problem with the trans activist's narratives is that the world is based in objective reality and the trans imagination doesn't preempt the capacity of the vast majority to decipher reality from the trans imagination. All women are born female, all men are born male and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish or costume-- highlighting the use of cis/trans as being entirely useless and irrelevant.
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You cannot have cameras in a restroom. If you have male genitalia-- use the male restroom. It's not complicated
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@jorceshaman I get the rational you're using, but Still Not legal-- in restrooms... PERIOD
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@jorceshaman Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. If you have male genitalia, you use the men's room PERIOD. The majority doesn't owe the special consideration to these people
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@jorceshaman Well, that's not a refutation. I recommend that in the future, you try being relevant. Respect is earned, and it's reserved for that which is respectable.
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@jorceshaman My comments all still stand and still haven't been refuted by you or anyone else. There's already been Trans abuse & r@pe of females (Girls and adult women) by those who claim they're 'trans' in the bathrooms 🖕feelings 🖕 If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then their identity is not valid, and certainly isn't a reason that all of society must cater to the mentally ill in your prescribed solution.
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Dissociative disorder on FULL Display
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@greenlanternhaljordan4974 Only if you inappropriately conflate the variability of personality traits and temperament-- neither of which is gender exclusive (hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@greenlanternhaljordan4974 Give an example. I've only ever brought up this fact with people who inappropriately conflate personality types and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@greenlanternhaljordan4974 That's neither an example, nor a refutation. Do Better
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@markusbaker1161 What are you, the hall monitor now?? Kick Rocks Fool
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@markusbaker1161 Your authority = ZERO, which is coincidentally the same value as your contribution which is nothing more than prop@g@nd@ and activist talking points with no validity
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@markusbaker1161 Your conclusions are invalid
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@markusbaker1161 Your conclusions are dismissed as frivolous nonsense
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Make the case for why someone who's XY should be considered XX (As would necessarily be the case, to substantiate the statement that trans women are women) or trans XX. Ready... Go... Make it make sense
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@markusbaker1161 :face-green-smiling: Of course not... You have NO argument that stands up to scrutiny
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@markusbaker1161 Me neither. Their identity contrary to reality however, is totally invalid
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@markusbaker1161 Additional arguments aren't necessary. The one's I've made are still standing and none are proven incorrect, by you or anyone else-- and you stated that you weren't going to read them anyway-- so you wouldn't know what they are
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@markusbaker1161 You haven't made the case for why someone who's XY should be considered XX (As would necessarily be the case, to substantiate the statement that trans women are women) or trans XX. Why not try being relevant for a change?
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@Maksie0 Yes they are, and you don't seem to comprehend that Men and Women aren't social constructs. The roles of men and women in society are the social constructs, making trans the social construct
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@markusbaker1161 You've got nothing
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@markusbaker1161 I mean your narrative is rejected
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@mariec3733 Intersex disorders aren't a social construct
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@mariec3733 Am I? I don't think so. I see that you're still conflating gender and gender roles as if they're synonymous, and they're not.
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@markusbaker1161 You have no logical, coherent arguments which disprove anything I've written-- and neither does anyone else
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@markusbaker1161 Okay... What relevant point are you trying to make regarding the dudes you're referring to as trans women?
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@markusbaker1161 If them being referred to as trans women is irrelevant, the distinction you're insisting on is now even more ridiculous than before, since they're men.
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, your point is irrelevant. They're men, nothing more. Calling them trans women doesn't alter that fact. Their feelings don't alter that fact. Their self-perceptions couldn't be any less relevant.
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@mariec3733 No confusion here, troll. I've given you the definition of gender. Gender refers to the sex observed/assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. You're conflating gender and gender roles as though they're synonymous and they are not. You're inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive -- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender, as though they're synonymous and they aren't. That's incorrect as well. Gender roles are the social construct you're relying on to make your argument, and they do not invalidate biology. You seem confused about those facts.
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@mariec3733 Science and medicine has established that all mammals are male or female, respectively-- and that status is fixed and permanent. Black’s Law Dictionary defines woman as “an adult female human being.” Changing what they call these men doesn't alter reality WTF is confusing your perception of reality?
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@mariec3733 That's because you have a comprehension deficit at play.
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@mariec3733 The definition I use states that "gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female respectively." SO-- as you point out it does 'also' address the social aspects of being male and female, however; the established social norms, cross-culturally have been long established, and if choosing to go with by your definition-- it doesn't alter the fact that males and females are a biological category which are fixed and permanent, making the statement 'trans women are women' patently absurd and false.
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@mariec3733 You're entitled to your opinion. It seems to me that those saying trans women are women, are misogynists, having no honor for the desires of women, or women's concerns, or privacy, and are the one's detached from reality, using it as an excuse to be granted access to women's private spaces. Make it make sense
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@markusbaker1161 Fine... :face-green-smiling::person-turqouise-waving::text-green-game-over:
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@mariec3733 The women who are being called cis by trans women against their will and having their privacy encroached on against their will believe their considerations matter too, might wonder why they don't get that same consideration from those men who you call trans women, and wonder how that's not the height of misogyny.
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@mariec3733 Because you don't understand that trans women are men, mansplaining what it is to be women to actual women, showing their misogyny
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@mariec3733 Take a hike troll. The logic it takes to say that someone who has a host of other behavioral/mental disorders (as nearly all dealing with transgenderism do) and is willing to mutilate themselves in irreversible fashion to achieve a status wherein they're still dozens of times more likely to commit sui**de ISN'T mental illness, is amazingly twisted. Insert any other condition and any other incessant desire to self-harm and there would be no dispute whatsoever.
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@markusbaker1161 When questioned about it, you refused to explain the lack of logic behind your endorsement of the narrative that trans women are women. When pointed out that science distinguishes the differences between the sexes, you switch to talking about social constructs, insisting that women are a social construct. That is anti-science dear. When corrected, regarding the law, when given the legal definition of a woman YOU ignored it. The problem you have is YOU-- and the narratives you present are wrong, and you haven't attempted to make it make sense-- when challenged on your beliefs or those that you promote.
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@markusbaker1161 Your understanding of it is not sufficient, if you believe that a woman is a social construct. Your conclusions are just wrong. Sorry Charlie
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@ethandollarhide7943 Look, they can identify as a Klingon for all I care (I don't at all), and then have a surgeon alter their appearance to look like a Klingon, and it wouldn't make them a Klingon, and those who said it did would be delusional too. Way too many, inappropriately and incorrectly conflate Gender (There are only 2 male/female... That's it) with gender roles (social constructs which refer to the roles of males and females in society), and personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive--hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) as though they're synonymous and they are not, leading to their incoherent conclusions and narratives which simply do not withstand scrutiny. A dude in a wig and a dress is still a dude, even if he really believes his LARP and cosplay is real.
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@Maksie0 Being that all women are born female, trans/cis couldn't possibly be less relevant
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@Maksie0 It's irrelevant. There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female. The problem with the trans activist ideological narratives is that life is based in objective reality, and the vast majority of people don't have difficulty deciphering the differences between reality and the trans imagination. What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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@Maksie0 🙄 I don't think you know what that word means
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1. How are they-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? They aren't trans anything. Same after they alter their appearance, as they are after they do. Males 2. Why should those men be granted access to women's private spaces?
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@pyroshayniac1090 A bedlamite may believe that, but that doesn't make it so. It's objectively false, and to assert that is patently absurd. A woman is an adult, human female. There's a prerequisite to becoming a woman, and that is being born a female-- and they're Not that, so how do you figure?? Calling a banana a peach, doesn't magically transform the banana into a peach-- it's still a banana. So-called 'Trans women' are males who've merely altered their appearance, and call themselves by another name; Still males-- Not women, and as such don't belong in women's private spaces. You haven't proven your claim. Change my mind
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@markusbaker1161 That's not a refutation. It invalidates nothing. I don't feel compelled to convince myself that the truth is false and that a lie is true. The claim made is that trans-women are women. The burden of proof isn't with me You do you
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Sadly, so many have great difficulty accepting reality. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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@markusbaker1161 Of course they're individuals. That was never in dispute. They're just not the sex/gender they wish they were or as they present themselves to be. What's behind about that?
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@markusbaker1161 Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad Those who suffer with gender dysphoria suffer with that dissociative state which is delusional by definition, so no they're misgendering themselves in reality. In their imagination they can identify as whatever they do-- but it in no way impacts reality,for the rest of the world
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@markusbaker1161 Even those who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria, are not examples of men becoming women. They are all examples of men not trans anything. Calm down.
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@markusbaker1161 If men aren't suffering from gender dysphoria and they dress like, and present as women, they're just engaging in cosplay. Coincidentally, if they do suffer w/ gender dysphoria, their dissociative delusions don't transform them into women, either
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@markusbaker1161 I think the results of their treatment protocols is what's important, and don't care what an activist claims, when the results are so horrific
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@markusbaker1161 You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and have not justified allowing men to infiltrate women's private places like restrooms,locker rooms,sports teams and prisons, because of their subjective identity claims. Why do you hate and have such a disrespect for women?
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@markusbaker1161 You, failing to refute anything I've written appears to highlight you, who's run out of relevant things to say
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@mikaileford2405 It's useless and irrelevant since ALL women are born female. Those dudes aren't women of ANY kind and they never will be. Cope Harder... Seethe if you must, but it won't alter reality at all
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Ignorance can be remedied with information, but Stooooopid is FOREVER, because it means they lack the capacity to assimilate information which destroys their narrative, and course correct their understanding.
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That dude is a dude not a she of any kind. There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female
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When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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@pianocat5955 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females-- making the use of 'cis' entirely irrelevant and useless
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There is only 1 kind of woman, and she's born female. Get help
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@TorbieGinger Gender-- There are 2, male/female... That's it Pretending you're something or someone you're not, doesn't make you that thing in reality. It means you're engaged in cosplay and LARPing. Fr@udulent identities aren't valid anywhere Personality traits and temperament are not gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys. Get a clue As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female and those dudes weren't. A woman isn't a costume men can put on and take off, and they aren't a social construct, or a feeling. A woman is an adult, human, female. Now, you know
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@evaquick8676 How then, are those 'Men' justified in being granted access into women's private spaces? Answer: They're not, because as it turn out-- there's a prerequisite to being a woman, and that's being born a female. A woman isn't a costume, a feeling, or a social construct. They're ALL adult, human, females-- and those dudes were not
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@onliner10000 :face-green-smiling::face-blue-smiling: Ya, stunning and brave. LOL:face-turquoise-covering-eyes:
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@O K Thank you. Very generous
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@DoIIyMama Male / Female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Once a male, always a male. If their identity requires me or anyone else to deny objective reality, and my participation in their cosplay and LARPing, using their preferred pronouns etc... Too bad, so sad-- that identity is not valid. Now you know
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@repo6374 Thanks, and sadly-- you are correct, which begs the questioning regarding the efficacy and ethics of affirmation-based treatment protocols.
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Cameraman285 Trans women are men with issues pretending that they're women without issues. There is no such thing as trans women. That's just another term used to describe confused men who LAPR and cosplay, portraying the stereotype of a caricature of a female. There are only males and females, which is why using the 'cis' prefix is entirely ridiculous. Now you know why
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@nayeliortiz9148 Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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@__orlando__ Try re-reading, only slower this time so you don't miss it again. ;)
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@__orlando__ I must be over the target, since my comments are being shadow banned
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@__orlando__ Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they are after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men Gender addresses the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female. It appears that many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@__orlando__ Really? When logged out I can see 9 comments, not 11 replies as the comment count shows when logged in
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@markusbaker1161 Ya, as males. :face-turquoise-covering-eyes::face-green-smiling::face-blue-smiling:
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@markusbaker1161 Duh
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@markusbaker1161 Oh, okay... You know males and females aren't the same thing, and that they aren't interchangeable and that fact is undeniable? 🙄 IF gender is a mere social construct, as you suggest-- and disconnected from biology (I disagree), then transgender is a mere social construct, which in NO WAY justifies those men violating women's private spaces such as dressing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, sports teams or prisons, if it has NOTHING to do with biology. Make it make sense
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@markusbaker1161 That didn't make it make sense. That was another cowardly deflection
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@markusbaker1161 Okay, it appears your cognitive dissonance is fully engaged. IF gender is a mere social construct, as you suggest-- and disconnected from biology (I disagree), then transgender is a mere social construct, which in NO WAY justifies granting those men who you've been referring to as trans women-- access to women's private spaces such as dressing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, sports teams or prisons, if it has NOTHING to do with biology. Make it make sense
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@markusbaker1161 You're adept at avoiding the pertinent focus of the dialogue. It makes conversing with you annoying, and it's why you're dismissed as an agitator and a troll.
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@markusbaker1161 The concept of gender as something other than describing the 2 sexes was quite literally crafted out in the second half of 20th century by people like John Money and Simone de Beauvoir-- But you keep on believing your talking point is valid. It isn't.
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@markusbaker1161 I get it... You're conflating stoooopid with smart, and your outcomes will continue to be wrong and confused. Believe what you will. It doesn't make you correct
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@markusbaker1161 Stoooopid isn't the new smart, and you are only aiming to agitate. Your inane claim that anyone has ever claimed they aren't valid people is intellectually stunted, and disingenuous at best. They're men or women, respectively. How they choose to present themselves doesn't change that fact. If you don't recognize them as men who've altered their appearance,or women who've altered their appearance... okay, that only illustrates the limits of your powers of observation.
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@markusbaker1161 The women who are being called cis by trans women against their will and having their privacy encroached on against their will believe their considerations matter too, might wonder why they don't get that same consideration from those men who you call trans women, and wonder how that's not the height of misogyny.
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Clearly unhinged from reality
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it, and impose their way of life on everyone else in it's place.
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Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1. Your body and brain develop & grow together -> You simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2. Hating a part of you body so much, that you cut it off, is a mental illness.
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@Maksie0 Reality
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@conor.3875 Progeny
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@conor.3875 How is it not?
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@conor.3875 How is it not? Existence, and continuation of the species seems like a kinda obviously relevant priority-- to those with a functional prefrontal cortex. Do Better... Be Better
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That's because he's a lunatic
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@Ey3_s0cEt.4.20. If that were true they wouldn't self-delete at the rate they do
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SO? Just remember, when you think things are against you-- it's probably You, and the world doesn't owe you acceptance. If You want to integrate into society-- then remember that it's YOU, who needs to adapt. To insist that society must play along with your counter-culture position-- makes you seem arrogant, narcissistic, self-entitled and ridiculous. You're not the center of the universe and the world isn't going to reorganize itself to accommodate your subjective feelings, contrary to objective reality. You need to develop better coping mechanisms to deal with adversity, because not everyone is going to like you, or be accommodating.
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No-- Just No. Those men can compete against other men.
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@kendalrussaw6675 It is they, who insist that the world participate in their LARP and cosplay, by suggesting that the world deny objective reality, and w/ their insistence on the use grammatically incorrect pronouns, and that makes the debate everyone else's business. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. A woman isn't a social construct, feeling or a costume
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They're as believably female as the original hair transplant guys looked like their hair was 'natural', that is to say, Not at all. Expecting rational thought processes from the delusional is illogical
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It's not evidence that males can be females or vice versa. When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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They do that-- and I correctly use the appropriate pronouns of grammar and let him know-- sir, you're rude and not being very lady-like. Cope and seethe if you must dude
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You can't have everything, so if you can't have what you wish you could-- Want something else
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Or women who require prostate exams
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@Maksie0 There are no trans humans. There are only males and females, and that state is fixed and permanent. Now you know-- Cope and seethe
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It looks like they still haven't figured out that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender yet. Allowing men in women's restrooms doesn't seem rational or reasonable.
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They're merely caricatures of that which they can never be-- women
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Such as?
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@markusbaker1161 Done answering to you. F- Off
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@markusbaker1161 You're a liar. You should just come out as gay. There's no stigma attached to it anymore. I mean, you can pretend that a dude in a dress is a woman if you want-- but you're only fooling yourself
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@markusbaker1161 You have not proven anything I've written to be incorrect, liar. If you were competent and so sure I was incorrect-- you would have. Be Gone
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@markusbaker1161 Well, You have internet access and can research the info for yourself. It'd be easy to prove anything I've written to be inaccurate or incorrect, if I was wrong, and-- You haven't proven anything I've written to be inaccurate. Is it a lack of competence on your part, coupled with an incoherent argument? I say it is. I'm not writing or submitting a scientific paper for peer review to you, so-- There is that. I am merely reporting the existence of information, stats, facts, and analysis which are all verifiable for those interested in the topic. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total lack of any actual virtue to be found in any of your verbal diarrhea, demonstrating intellectual bankruptcy.
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@markusbaker1161 Then, it sucks to be you. Competent adults do their own research to confirm information for themselves. i reject your narratives-- and am not interested in indulging your intellectual diarrhea any longer. You've gone out of your way to be an insufferable twat-- so expecting integrity from you is not logical nor reasonable. You fail to make your case. Deal with it and move on. Your opinion has proven to be without value, and substance-free
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@ItsSchwifty It's redundant, at BEST. There are people. They are male or female. There are segments of each which present with various physical and psych disorders-- some with multiples of each, none of which invalidate the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species.
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@Maksie0 Calm down, Blossom
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@Maksie0 Your incessant whining looks like you're the one crying about the fact that we're not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote your make believe fantasy as though it was reality. Too bad so sad. Cope Harder
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They're men, and recognizing that isn't a phobia. It's just being observant. Science and medicine has established that all mammals are male or female, respectively-- and that status is fixed and permanent. Black’s Law Dictionary defines woman as “an adult female human being.”
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Being unable to articulate a coherent argument when refuted, is a sign of intellectual incompetence
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LARPing the part of a fool
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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Gender and sex are intrinsically linked. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. No one is saying you can't express yourself as you wish. You can identify as a Klingon if you choose-- BUT, that doesn't mean that others will perceive you as you perceive yourself. They're the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do.
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No...sex/gender isn't assigned. It's established at conception and observed and documented at birth or before. Gender roles are a social construct that refers to the roles of males and females in society. ALL woman are born female, all men are born male and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference, personality trait nor a costume
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No, the trans activists saying that trans women are women, is a cult narrative pushed by a cult ideology
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I keep waiting for someone to bring up the scholarships women may be losing out on too
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Quit conflating gender (There are 2 male/female), with gender roles (ALL based on being male or female, with long-established tradition and history) and personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys)
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@Maksie0 There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making cis totally irrelevant and useless. What do you get out of provoking women?
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@markusbaker1161 No, they do however hate that they can't become women.
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@markusbaker1161 Not in reality they aren't. Still males
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@markusbaker1161 Nope. Women aren't a social construct, and neither are men
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@Maksie0 Nah... They don't have difficulty deciphering reality from fantasy fiction-- like you do
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@Maksie0 You spelled Dissociative Disorders wrong
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@markusbaker1161 You spelled Groomer wrong
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@markusbaker1161 Not all men are beta males like you-- There's no fear, or judgement going on here-- just the observational capacity to see that they are not that which they present themselves as. If you want to pretend they are, fine... You do you
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@markusbaker1161 Boo Hoo... They're not women... They're still men, and their self-perception doesn't alter that fact, and neither does choosing to refer to them by another name like trans-women
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@markusbaker1161 That's just another word you're using to describe those men. Suck it up buttercup
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@markusbaker1161 That doesn't prove anything I've stated incorrect. Suck it up, buttercup
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@markusbaker1161 I'm saying, those men are not women, and people recognize that. If you don't-- fine... If you do and want to pretend you don't, that's fine too. Either way, it doesn't make them women
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@markusbaker1161 I'm saying that your arguments are irrelevant. Those who you're calling trans women are men. It's really not complicated
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@markusbaker1161 They're men. Deal with it
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@markusbaker1161 That's what I said. They're men. You have established that you have comprehension challenges when it comes to definitions. ex. The definition of gender: Gender refers to the sex assigned/observed at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. The social aspects of being male or female are socially constructed, and they're well-established since the dawn of time. 'Transgender' is an abstract social construct that's not based on biology or in reality. That you wish to close your eyes to the facts, or protest about them-- change nothing.
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@markusbaker1161 Transgenderism is definitely a social construct, without any connection to objective reality. Next??
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@markusbaker1161 Doesn't matter. Transphobia, like transgender is a mere social construct with no basis in objective reality. Trans women aka Men-- are not Women. That you don't get that is truly of no significance.
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@markusbaker1161 Transgender is a social construct. Got it! That doesn't change objective biological reality.
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@markusbaker1161 You can't make the case for why someone who's XY should be considered XX (As would necessarily be the case, to substantiate the statement that trans women are women) or trans XX. You cannot make it make sense. It's total insanity, incoherent and removed from logic and rational thought.
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@markusbaker1161 Duh... You still can't make the case and neither can anyone else
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@markusbaker1161 See-- You can't make the case, and neither can anyone of those you that you cite. There are none so blind as those [like you, and those like you] who would not see
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@markusbaker1161 stoooopid chatbot-- You can't. It's a simple as that.
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@aaralyn6710 Wrong... Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female-- and those dudes were not. Now you know
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@Maksie0 Cis is irrelevant. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female.
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@Nathancant1953 You appear to have a difficult time with context. It's a term used in chemistry to describe the position of certain molecules one to another, and has nothing to do with gender identity.
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@mariec3733 You sound mad. Get help
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@mariec3733 There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born females. Your failure to comprehend that is at the root of your confusion. Cope and seethe harder if you like, but it doesn't change the fact that those dudes aren't women of any kind
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@andrefernandez5431 There are males and females. That's it... Now you know. A woman isn't a costume that men can put on, and she isn't a social construct. Update your understanding to comprehend the fact that personality and gender aren't synonymous
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@Maksie0 Only to you... and the others, who have difficulty deciphering reality from the imaginary
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He's a moron. There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female. He wasn't.
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@Maksie0 Being that all women are born female, how do you figure it's not totally irrelevant and useless???
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They get confused about the difference between science-fiction v science
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@charcoalgea2863 Even a monkey can tell the difference between males and females. What's your excuse?
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@conor.3875 Listen carefully... That's the sound of men and women rejecting your incoherent ideology and terminology for the bull 💩 that it is. Don't believe me? Ask Budweiser
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@Maksie0 "Socialism has a history of failure so blatant, that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it".-- T. Sowell
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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@ry-dh2kk What about them? You think they present with organs other than that of male and female?
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@ry-dh2kk Correct. Intersex only present with male or female-- and do not invalidate the binary whatsoever
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@ry-dh2kk Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender.
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@ry-dh2kk Not counting this comment, there are only 3 comments showing out of 7. They're shadow banning the comments because they have ZERO integrity, and are afraid of the truth exposing their narrative as nothing less than hollow and intellectually bankrupt. Try logging out, and revisit the comment section
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@Maksie0 What a load of crap. They're free to participate in society
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@Maksie0 Gender and sex aren't disconnected. Gender is NOT a social construct. Gender roles are the social constructs and they're well-established, which is why the counter-culture trans-narrative is itself the real construct and you seem unable to process that distinction. Your inability to process the truth of it, doesn't invalidate the truth. We're not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe, or cater to feelings. NO! Just... No They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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@markusbaker1161 Deciphering the difference between gender and gender roles appears to cause you difficulty. Not a me problem
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@markusbaker1161 HAHAHAHA Oh Blossom... You're wrong but that's ok, you can blame your ignorance. You've again, refuted nothing whatsoever.
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@markusbaker1161 No, it is not. Cry Harder, Blossom. No one takes you seriously
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@markusbaker1161 Well Blossom, there appear to be a majority of people watching you make a spectacle of yourself, and rejecting your minority opinion narrative, based in nothing more than your feelings-- based in subjective delusion, as less than useless. I know that I'm not going to ignore what can actually be observed with our own eyes, so that I can promote make believe, or cater to feelings based in dissociative delusion and subjective imagination. NO! Just... No They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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@markusbaker1161 🤡
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Birth defect and infertility is not uncommon in that type of case. What do you think of those cases?
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Both are men, portraying something they're not-- ie. women
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HILARIOUS! Leftists: We want state run and funded healthcare State: Ab0rti0n is banned Leftists: ReeEEEeeEEE :face-purple-crying::face-blue-smiling:🤣
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@rdhaley96 Strawman? It's actually happened. Try to keep up. There isn't a middle ground for a meeting of the minds between those who have a moral foundation which values life-- and those who don't, then who go further and categorize it as disposable, so they can indulge in the one and only activity which causes their totally avoidable self-inflicted dilemma..
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@rdhaley96 Well, that's not much of a refutation. There are no logical fallacy's in my comment.
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@CreativeUsernameEh When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect, Psych Disorder... That's it, so take your pick. Oh, and No, intersex isn't another gender in the binary, it's a birth defect
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@CreativeUsernameEh None taken. Make sure to get all your boosters too
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@Maksie0 It is the trans-activists like you, who's insistence that others-- who are already minding their own business, participate in your LARP and cosplay, by insisting on the grammatically incorrect use of pronouns, and with no regard for the displacement of women's privacy, which is at the root of how you brought your business to everyone in public, making it their business. Irony or idiocy? Quit your whining. You look and sound ridiculous
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@Maksie0 You'll see
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@Maksie0 You're terrified of reality
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@catboyash Yes, it is, and has been for millennia.
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Fact: He's a caricature of that which he wishes he could be, and never will be-- a woman
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These m0r0ns probably think there's 53 states too. Not too bright... shocker
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They are witless twits--that much is certain
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Because it IS about genitalia-- to them.
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Yes, they lose their minds when you ask for the scientific evidence that men can become women, then their cognitive dissonance kicks in when it's pointed out that it simply doesn't exist
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Babylon is rising
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Groomers, feverishly at work
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@markusbaker1161 Dog groomers have to do with the grooming of dogs. trans women, drag queens and cross dressers are all men. Cope harder
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@markusbaker1161 Define woman
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@markusbaker1161 They're men. The reasons that they present as 'other than' men, and choose to go by another name doesn't change the fact that they're men.
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@markusbaker1161 that's synonymous with men
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@markusbaker1161 A quick look at the comment section shows that to be WAY wrong. How humans treat each other? That's a pretty big brush stroke. You think all peoples of all communities treat people the same, do you? That's wrong too. Not all cultures are equal, compatible, nor desirable... That's why sovereign nations have borders
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@markusbaker1161 That's your explanation for why adults commit crimes against other people? Ok... Your conclusion doesn't seem too well thought out or insightful at all. Shocker
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@markusbaker1161 That any crime at all occurs, since according to you-- adults know how to treat people-- illustrates the shallow intellect behind your statement-- as there shouldn't be any crimes committed by adults who know how to treat people
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@markusbaker1161 Look, I know you're almost as smart as a fence post and all, but it's clearly beyond your capacity for intelligent, reasonable thought-- Blossom, or you wouldn't have made that intellectually bankrupt statement in the 1st place
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@markusbaker1161 They're valid, as I've told you before. They're just not women. They're still men, and that fact seems to unsettle you. Life's not fair... Get used to it
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@markusbaker1161 I really couldn't care less about how you take it. If you want to be gay, and pretend that your boyfriend is a girl, because he wears a dress-- you do you
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@markusbaker1161 They want to be called trans women so they can pretend they're not men, and instead pretend they're women.
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@markusbaker1161 Apparently, there is a lot you have no idea about.
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Clever... He's not a trans woman, he's a transplant. 🤭
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@truerealist757 Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1. Your body and brain develop & grow together -> You simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2. Hating a part of you body so much, that you cut it off, is a mental illness.
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@Maksie0 Nope... There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female.
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@Britney1106 DNA dictates the production of objective biological differences between males and females. 100% of the population is either male or female, even intersex people. If they have a Y chromosome, they are heterogametic and male. If not, they are homogametic and female.
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@conor.3875 No, cis was 1st used in 1888 and it is characterized by having certain atoms or groups of atoms on the same side of the longitudinal axis of a double bond or of the plane of a ring in a molecule 2. relating to or being an arrangement of two very closely linked genes in the heterozygous condition, in which both mutant alleles are on one chromosome and both wild-type alleles are on the homologous chromosome It has nothing to do with gender
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@conor.3875 I don't believe you're correct. In any case, trans isn't even a thing-- when it comes to mammals. They are all male or female, respectively-- and that state is fixed and permanent
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@conor.3875 There are males and females. That's it. There aren't any trans people. Altering their appearance doesn't change what they are
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@conor.3875 Seems like you prefer to argue.
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@conor.3875 That's a 'yes', you do prefer to argue for argument's sake-- I know. You've gotten it totally wrong on gender. Gender (There are 2), refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. You then, inappropriately conflate gender, personality traits and temperament-- as though they're synonymous and they are not. Learn the differences. Then, you conflate gender and gender roles. Then, you conflate male and female. Then, you conflate men and women. Get real
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@conor.3875 Well, that isn't much of a rebuttal. You seem confused about science, and the fact that there are no trans humans. There are only males and females-- That's it. Women aren't a 'Feeling' or a social construct. They're adult, human, females and as it turns out the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. Now you know. Now, Go seethe and cope-- then, in the future, be relevant for a change
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They aren't trans anything. Still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after. Still male or female, respectively as they were on the delivery table
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@Maksie0 How sad that you have difficulty deciphering the difference between males and females
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@Maksie0 No contest. Matt would be driving a Mercedes
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Need to bring back asylums
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Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth nd the social aspect of being male or female, respectively. It is not disconnected from sex. They're intrinsically linked
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@markusbaker1161 I provided you the etymological info on the word gender. Shame on you for laughing at people with psych issues
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@markusbaker1161 I'm sure you believe that is relevant somehow. I accept that individual people are unique and 1 of 1. The difference is, I recognize the difference between fantasy and reality. They can cosplay all they want. They're still not that which they claim to be, or as they present themselves.
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@markusbaker1161 Better watch that blood pressure. I definitely question the ethics of those who treat these people w/ affirmation therapy, and there are other doctors who do too, and some of that legislation you drone on about addresses that too, as well as bans of sports teams, and in bathrooms and locker rooms etc... That you're unaware changes nothing. You should quit while you're behind
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@markusbaker1161 Meh... Well, you know what they say about opinions. Some say, they're like @-holes... everybody has one and... Some say, some opinions are more valuable than others-- for a reason I say, they're like 0rgasms-- mine is more important than yours, and I don't care if you have one
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@markusbaker1161 You've yet to prove yourself relevant. Still XY, not trans ANYTHING. They're nothing more than a caricature of what they wish they were and can never be-- a woman. A face lift, genital mutilation, and a wardrobe change-- and none of that turns a male into a female, no matter how much you wish it to be true, it is not. They're engaging in gender appropriation in the form of a caricature. They're the same as they ever were-- dudes w/ psych issues and physical mutilation to prove it Change my mind... Ready, Set, Go.....
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@markusbaker1161 I have no reason to disagree with my conclusions and change my mind. You have certainly provided no reasons to reconsider my position. I have NO problem realizing that there are people who have identity issues. I wish them well in their endeavors to deal with those issues; however-- recognizing that they are not that which they present themselves as, just makes me observant-- Not hateful I haven't been able to make sense of those who advocate affirmation care as a default protocol. The sad fact about the people who suffer with gender dysphoria, and those who inappropriately put themselves under the same umbrella-- who do not suffer with it, yet cosplay as though they do, have other underlying traumatic issues in play-- in addition and the su***de (both prior to and post surgery) is so much higher than the norm, and post surgery-- the numbers I've seen are astronomically high as well, showing unremarkable movement-- SO that being said, I just don't see how it's possible to see those rates and believe it's effective. Can you make it make sense? I can't
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No, it's for them to adapt to society. It's not society's job to deny reality for them
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@smitty3347 There is a prerequisite to being a woman, and that's being born female. Those dudes weren't. Now you know
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@EfremCCTV They're men. Science and medicine has established that all mammals are male or female, respectively-- and that status is fixed and permanent. Black’s Law Dictionary defines woman as “an adult female human being.”
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@markusbaker1161 You know, there entire institutions of learning, and the entire medical industry existing that prove your statement absurd
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@markusbaker1161 Oh, okay...:face-turquoise-drinking-coffee: You know males and females aren't the same thing, and that they aren't interchangeable and that fact is undeniable? :face-turquoise-covering-eyes: IF gender is a mere social construct, as you suggest-- and disconnected from biology (I disagree), then transgender is a mere social construct, which in NO WAY justifies those men violating women's private spaces such as dressing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, sports teams or prisons, if it has NOTHING to do with biology. Make it make sense
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@markusbaker1161 Don't ask, if you don't intend to read it. Scroll up if you're interested
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@markusbaker1161 Don't care... Your clown routine is boring
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@markusbaker1161 Feel free to refrain from future unsolicited responses aimed at me or my comments.
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Get on it. You finance it too
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There is no other kind of woman, but those humans-- born female, who grow into adulthood. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of their identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities then their identity is not valid.
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Stay away from the kids, Groomer
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@keefecarroll1985 Grow a spine
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@keefecarroll1985 How many kids have you raised who became happy, well-adjusted, productive members of society?
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@keefecarroll1985 I'm done being nice. Men cannot become women and women cannot become men. Cope Harder. My point is, raise your own kids-- and stay tf away from other people's kids. You got a problem w/ that message? Too bad
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@markusbaker1161 Says the groomer activist
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@markusbaker1161 Says the antagonist who can't articulate why they believe the narratives they're following are correct
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@markusbaker1161 I told you-- I'm not interested in anything you have to say, unless it's an explanation as to why you believe those who you're putting your faith in, are correct, when their peers have articulated why they have issues with the conclusions, treatment protocols, and outcomes of their treatment. Why do you dismiss the opposing medical experts and professional's assessment and their reasoning?
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@markusbaker1161 M0r0n... I asked, Why do you dismiss the facts presented by opposing medical experts and professional's assessment and their reasoning? Checkmate. You've lost
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@markusbaker1161 It's as though you think my question isn't clearly visible. It's still there too. No worries, there are a lot of cult followers who get swindled into following along swindlers, just because someone said to follow, and in blind faith they do to their own peril-- and apparently you're one of them.
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@markusbaker1161 Making your claims that I haven't proven you incorrect a fantasy based in ignorance-- Nothing more
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@markusbaker1161 Science isn't a consensus and experts disagree. You only follow along with those who produce your sought confirmation bias, and can't articulate why you believe they're correct-- in lieu of the reasons why other "experts" say they are not. Hmmm...:face-turquoise-drinking-coffee:🤕 You seem to only regurgitate what you've been told, and have no analytical capacity to question the claims of those you follow-- when contrasted against expert medical professionals who explain why they disagree with their ethics, treatment protocols and outcomes.
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@markusbaker1161 Science is not a consensus. You're citing pseudo-science, and political-science
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@markusbaker1161 No you aren't. The medical professionals who oppose those you rely on, already have articulated the problems with those who you put your faith in, and have noted their reasoning on the problems with their ethics, treatment protocols and horrendous outcomes. The fact that you want to pretend they haven't, doesn't change anything. I already told you a long time ago-- we'll have to agree to disagree.
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@markusbaker1161 I support info that makes sense to me. Those medical expert professionals who oppose the ethics, treatment protocols, and horrible outcomes of those in whom you put your faith, have documented their reasons, and rational-- and they make more sense to me than those you believe-- who profit off the misery of others
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@markusbaker1161 There are expert medical professionals who are not in agreement with what you purport to be facts, and your 'understanding' or lack of understanding of them-- doesn't change the truth.
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@markusbaker1161 I appreciate you endorsing my ability to follow the reasoning of those who have made a coherent case, based on their medical expertise, and analysis of the available data, and their scrutiny of those-- whom you follow. You and I disagree. The relevant difference is, I've articulated why I disagree, and you have not articulated why you dismiss the reasoning of the medical experts-- opposing those in whom, you put your faith. No worries. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, and you certainly aren't persuading me, that your belief is founded in anything other than blind faith and the willingness to ignore inconvenient truths-- which expose the problems with the shallow arguments, and hollow slogans you've been using-- while making a a spectacle of yourself.
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@markusbaker1161 What part of we'll have to agree to disagree was confusing for you? You don't seem to be able to live up to that. Be Gone
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@markusbaker1161 :person-turqouise-waving::text-green-game-over:
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@markusbaker1161 That's why so many who are trans can't cope with it, and self delete
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@markusbaker1161 You figure they self delete because they can cope with the truth? Weird The stats show their choice to self-delete is much higher than those who aren't trans. Why do you think that is?
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@markusbaker1161 No doubt, being concerned with facts, and evidence and the efficacy of your accepted treatments-- prescribed by those in whom you put your faith, you'd have searched for information on the topic. What did you find?
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@markusbaker1161 Did you not care enough to search?
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@markusbaker1161 Not to you. Don't be lazy. If you cared-- there's no excuse to remain ignorant of your own choosing. If you're not interested enough to look it up for yourself-- That's on you
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@markusbaker1161 Prove it
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@markusbaker1161 No, prove I don't care at all. You said it-- so, now prove it
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@markusbaker1161 You set out to argue for sport, free from a coherent argument and intentionally engaging without integrity factoring into the equation. I appreciate your arguments providing me the opportunity to sharpen my arguments counter to yours, and to see more clearly the disconnect of the trans narrative from reality. I was instead, hoping for an actual conversation with some honest dialogue-- but I try to make the best of things, there is none to be found with you
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@markusbaker1161 Don't be lazy. Do your own research. If you think you can debunk what I said-- Go for it. You haven't yet. No trace of an explanation of why you believe what you assert to be true and accurate, or to prove what I said to be inaccurate-- That's certain. Those hacks you refer to as experts are challenged by their peers in the medical community, who take issue with the ethics and treatment protocols of those who you put your faith in. Your cult is rejected.
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@markusbaker1161 All you proved is that you'll blindly follow along with someone just because they said so, without question. You never did articulate why you believe what you assert to be true and accurate, or to prove what I said to be inaccurate-- nor did you Give any reason why you dismiss/don't consider the merits of their expert peers in the medical community, who take issue with the ethics, treatment protocols and horrible outcomes for SO Many treated by those, in whom you put your faith.
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@markusbaker1161 What overwhelming evidence specifically debunks the empirical data used to scrutinize the analysis and conclusions that you assert supports the treatments?
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@markusbaker1161 You got nothing
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@markusbaker1161 You're Rejected
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@markusbaker1161 You're rejected.
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@Maksie0 ROFLMAO... Not even close. What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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Why is it so hard for leftists to mind their own business and raise their own kids how they see fit? How about that?
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@charlesbuckinghamrobertson Exactly
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@charlesbuckinghamrobertson The ideology deserves such mockery. It's incoherent nonsense.
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@charlesbuckinghamrobertson No worries-- I'm pretty sure I can live with that
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@amani7753 You seem triggered, and to be projecting
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There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women, illustrating that the entire narrative is a totally bogus faith-based belief with zero evidence to support the claim that trans women are women. :face-turquoise-covering-eyes:
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@Maksie0 Stop projecting. You fools go out of your way to stand out and seek attention for your counter-culture caricatures of the opposite sex that you attempt to portray, and you whinge when you're recognized for what you are, called out for it, and having your cult beliefs and incoherent narratives rejected by the vast majority of the population-- who aren't confused like you. Checkmate / You Lose
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@mariec3733 Your cult narrative and terminology is rejected. Gender-- there are 2, and they are fixed and permanent. No one in history has transitioned from male to female. Cope Harder
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They're narcissistic, misogynists who just want what they want
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Both are men presenting as that which they are not an can never be-- ie. Women
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@kurthaas4331 It's a burlesque form of entertainment expressed generally by men portraying the stereotypical caricature of a woman. Look, you can identify as a Klingon for all that matters, and that doesn't make you a Klingon, and anyone who suggests it does is delusional too.
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@Maksie0 And medical professionals disagree with their ethics, treatment protocols, analysis and conclusions regarding affirmation based treatment models too-- SO, why do you put your faith in those whom you reference believing they're correct? Anything??? Bueller... Bueller...
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@Maksie0 So confirmation bias is what you seek? Wrong guy here. I've made my case why I believe I'm correct and you are not. You, on the other hand, have not made yours. EVEN IF I agree that gender and sex are not connected (I don't)-- You STILL haven't explained how it is that those biological men are justified in being granted access into women's private spaces-- since you admit that you believe that sex isn't affected by or connected to gender, it doesn't make sense to say that trans women are women. Do you have any original thoughts on the challenges I brought up about your point of view, definitions and disjointed absence of logic in your narratives? If not-- We'll leave it at agreeing to disagree Then you better hope those who you're putting your faith in graduated at the top of their class, but still-- the results of their approach are horrendous evidenced by the number of self deletions that occur, even after transition are relatively unchanged from those who haven't yet undergone their treatment protocols, BUT-- be sure to get your 20th booster and go run some laps. FYI, and fwiw-- Science isn't a consensus. Oh, and regarding curling up in a hole in the ground-- That isn't very lady-like. I'm a gentleman, so You 1st
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You should've explained it here.
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@Maksie0 Missing the point that the age of those scrolls dates back as far as they do, showing that male and female have been that way for all of recorded history? Wow
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They can dress up perversity as diversity, but they're only fooling themselves, if they think their self perceived fantasy is representative of reality-- in ANY way. Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, as they re after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. --Still men
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@jamiemcv12 Trans is the new 'goth'
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@charcoalgea2863 Monkeys can tell the difference between males and females. What's your excuse for your confusion on the matter? The prerequisite to being a woman is being born female. Your juvenile comments and inability to process facts indicates you're kinda slow. The only ones fooled are you trans clowns and those who affirm your LARPing and cosplay-- which are the vast vast minority.
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@conor.3875 No doubt, you will believe-- when the time comes, and boy will you feel silly
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@conor.3875 Time will tell
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TOTAL Intellectual bankruptcy. There are males and females, and there are minority segments of each which present with birth defects and various mental illnesses/psych disorders. They aren't "trans" ANYTHING. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance and chemistry, as they are after.
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@Plaggy77 No, I had a feeling that you weren't even as deep as a baby spoon-- so, I didn't miss that. Your cognitive dissonance seems to have affected your ability to communicate intelligently. You're dismissed
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Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. How are they, not misgendering themselves? Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively-- and male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, it is my opinion that they are caricatures of that which they wish they were, but are not. In order to be a woman, one 1st needs to be born a female. That characteristic is fixed and permanent, and surgery, makeup and wardrobe don't facilitate that condition They are not that which they present themselves as, being the relevant focus. That is not an opinion, but an observation based in objective reality. It's not an insult to recognize something for what it is
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@markusbaker1161 The word accurately portrays what I intended. Your feelings about that, say something about YOU. I can't help your feelings-- That on You. You may be fooled if you see a kit car that looks like a Ferrari, but I'm not. It doesn't mean I hate kit cars. It just makes me observant
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@markusbaker1161 You can handle my car analogy? Ok-- well... They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick,either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 Obfuscate all you wish... It changes nothing Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad
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@markusbaker1161 Since I'm not trying to persuade you, your inability to comprehend, or agree is of no significance.
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@markusbaker1161 No need. Your side of the isle are trying to persuade society to redefine terms,and accept their premises. You, failing to make a persuasive case doesn't impact me in the least littlest bit
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@markusbaker1161 Nonetheless, you're presenting the trans activist arguments. I have no need to prove reality to you. That's a YOU problem,if you can't recognize the differences between males and females. I've merely present my thoughts on the topic, and you haven't persuaded me to see things from your perspective, and you haven't refuted my comments. Another YOU problem.
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@markusbaker1161 You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and have not justified allowing men to infiltrate women's private places, because of their subjective identity claims. Why do you hate and disrespect women?
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@markusbaker1161 Feel free to dismiss yourself
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There is only one kind of woman, and she's born female.
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@Hotrodchef89 Interesting that the comments I made, which you responded to are now shadow banned, as they're not visible when logged out. You come across as totally disingenuous with the ethics of a phone scammer
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@Hotrodchef89 Feel free to attempt to refute what I wrote
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@Hotrodchef89 Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. All they're doing is altering their appearance and body chemistry. They're not 'Trans' ANYTHING whatsoever. Their the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after.
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@Hotrodchef89 Of course people are more than their genitals. That was never in dispute. The notion that, because people alter their appearance means that it somehow changes their sex/gender-- is what's in dispute.
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@Maksie0 Can you even define that?
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@Maksie0 The standard segregation based on biology will suffice
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And others are like cornbread, that isn't cooked all the way to the middle
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@Maksie0 Dude, women who are trans are trans men. Get a clue
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@markusbaker1161 I hunt trolls. It's what I do
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@markusbaker1161 meh... He keeps saying that ridiculous comment and it's just wrong. Bot or m0r0n... Why do you think they don't update their material to avoid looking ridiculous? or perhaps they're a paid agitator like you-- just looking to get clicks. Judging by the comment section comments-- that's backfiring in a big way
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@markusbaker1161 You seem heavily invested in arguing for sport. I don't know why and I don't care why.
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@markusbaker1161 And I told you. I really don't care
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@Maksie0 You lose
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Exactly correct. Trans women are still men. They're not trans anything. They're still the same sex and gender prior to transition, after transition. All they're doing is drastically altering their appearance, and screwing up their natural body chemistry. Still men
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How are these so-called 'trans-women' not just males w/ a quirky fashion sense, presenting with a caricature-like persona of their stereotypical and subjective version of womanhood? Renaming a male something else like trans, doesn't make him any less male. It just changes what you're calling a male. Where's the coherent thought in that?
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@Maksie0 Not like you, working w/ Jubilee
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Looks more like a drag queen, but doesn't act like a lady
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@markusbaker1161 potato=potato. He's a dude dressed up like a woman
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@markusbaker1161 Observant people recognize that he's not a woman
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@markusbaker1161 I recognize them as a person too; Just not one of the opposite sex, as they would prefer
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@markusbaker1161 Well, then Fine. They're men in a costume
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@markusbaker1161 Fine-- They're still just men, regardless of their costume
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@markusbaker1161 Still males, or females. I don't care what you or anyone else wants to call them, discerning reality isn't a challenge for me as it is apparently with some others
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@markusbaker1161 Your opinion is noted and rejected.
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@markusbaker1161 Don't Care. You've failed to be persuasive. Go play the fool w/ someone else. Turning off notifications for this video
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@markusbaker1161 Lucky for you... You'd be terrible at it. Conversely, it's not my responsibility to recognize, and affirm someone's subjective self-perception, contrary to reality. If someone's identity if predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective reality, then their identity is invalid.
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@markusbaker1161 How are they-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? And I asked, Why should those men who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria be granted access to women's private spaces? You got nuthin Blossom
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@markusbaker1161 Blossom, your integrity = 0 In the future, just know that when you insist on your preferred pronouns, the 'I don't care' response you gave, will be returned to you with a smile
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@markusbaker1161 Whinge away Blossom. Your intellectual deficit is showing again. Your nonsense is seen for what it is. You got nuthin
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Just some perspective: The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. They're merely caricatures of what they 'WISH' they were, and can never be One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@conor.3875 It's really of no consequence, since there is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female.
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You do you and raise your kids how you see fit.
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@markusbaker1161 Mine is in his 30's
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@Maksie0 Say the trans activist. LOL
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@Maksie0 So, you don't know how the notifications work then? uh huh You're continually saying that trans women are women, and that's patently absurd and totally wrong. Your own ignorance overwhelms you
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@markusbaker1161 Changing what you call men doesn't make them something other than men. The women who are being called cis by trans women against their will and having their privacy encroached on against their will believe their considerations matter too, might wonder why they don't get that same consideration from those men who you call trans women, and wonder how that's not the height of misogyny.
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@markusbaker1161 They're men. trans women are merely a social construct being acted out by men. You seem to have a hard time coping with that being recognized
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@heyo80 How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@Maksie0 Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders -- who don't live in reality about there being two genders. XX, XY, Birth Defect, That's it! MANY are inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) with 'gender'. There are clearly males and females with various biological abnormalities, infertility, post menopausal, anomalies and surgeries, etc.-- still male or female, respectively-- and none are representative of a new sex/gender that invalidates the binary. You can neuter your male dog, make him wear makeup and a dress, and it doesn't make him a female dog. Just sayin... 2. Intersex isn't another gender in the binary. Why, because there is no newly discovered benefit or attribute elevating the human design and are often infertile, but always only represent the 2 sexes in the binary. Also, none are w/ the ability to reproduce offspring by themselves. It's a silly argument to make. Would you argue that people born with one arm and leg invalidate the norm of people having 2 arms and 2 legs? fyi-- It does not You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek and prescribe hormones etc... and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon, and those who think it does are delusional.
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@Tamara_Middleton For those interested to read and consider.
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@Maksie0 No, because women are not in need of any additional descriptions. The trans-prefix is the only one necessary for them for some reason. Still male or female as the case may be
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@Maksie0 Pretty redundant. Why would someone who believes they're a woman wish to have the distinction drawn? That's Odd
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They're trying to make 'stoopid' the new 'Smart'
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@Maksie0 You really need to quit using that ridiculous slogan. Not according to your own incoherent ideological narrative, they aren't. Women who are trans are purportedly men...
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@Maksie0 Expecting not to be scrutinized, as to your incoherent, baseless claims is hilariously arrogant and naive
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Not uncommon among the developmentally disabled
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@Maksie0 You don't get much of anything
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@Maksie0 There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Take your time to process the fact
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@Maksie0 It's rejected as incoherent nonsense by the vast majority of males and females on earth. Cope harder
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@EvaLoVerde Your substance free commentary is noted.
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Gender and sex aren't disconnected. Gender is NOT a social construct. Gender roles are the social constructs and they're well-established, which is why the counter-culture trans-narrative is itself the real construct and you seem unable to process that distinction. The inability to process the truth of it, doesn't invalidate the truth. We're not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe, or cater to feelings. NO! Just... No They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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@Maksie0 That's not a refutation, at all. shocker 🙄 Why should those men be granted access into women's private spaces like dressing rooms, locker rooms, sports teams, restrooms or prisons?🦗🦗
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@Maksie0 You haven't made the case for why someone who's XY should be considered XX (As would necessarily be the case, to substantiate the statement that trans women are women) or trans XX. Why not try being relevant for a change?
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@markusbaker1161 Your trolling is noted. They're men, and calling them trans women doesn't alter the fact that they're men. Science and medicine has established that all mammals are male or female, respectively-- and that status is fixed and permanent. Black’s Law Dictionary defines woman as “an adult female human being.” Your confusion about the facts is clear. Your history of trolling with inane commentary is a matter of record.
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There are people. They are male and female. There are segments of each which present with birth defects, psych disorders, and mental illness/psych disorders-- none of which invalidate the binary of all mammalian species. Developmental sex disorders are not separate sexes/genders. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspect of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Too many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) and are incorrectly attempting to use the term as a synonym for/with gender
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@Maksie0 Your entire activist narrative is a nonsensical cry for attention, pretending that everyone must participate in your LARP and cosplay, as though it's based in reality, while you're trying to justify your hedonism as virtuous
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@babs_babs People are male or female... That's it. That status is fixed and permanent. Men cannot become women and women cannot become men. ALL women, are born female... Now, you know better. Update your thinking
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@Maksie0 Quiet groomer. You're full of 💩
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@Maksie0 Well when men pretend to be women, they clearly offset the opportunities of women for scholarships, job and career advancement, privacy concerns, and security concerns
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@mr.mclibtard5015 Yup
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Yup
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Though not uncommon
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@Diamondsparkle788 It's an observational capacity sort of thing
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@mariec3733 Men becoming women isn't real
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@Roxana Blacksea Nah... Not even close. From the dawn of time-- Freedom hasn't been the norm and both men and women have had to struggle just to stay alive, under the oppressive rule of Kings, Pharaohs, Chiefs, Potentates, Emperors, Amirs, Prime Ministers, Presidents, etc... "Socialism has a history of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it".-- T. Sowell Facts are awesome and stubborn things. Life isn't fair The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. Not reasonable or rational by any standard. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct.
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It's TOTALLY ridiculous. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Cis is a term used in chemistry to describe the position of certain molecules-- one to the other and has NOTHING to do with gender
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@conor.3875 There is only kind of woman, and a dude in a dress isn't it. That's why
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 @conor.3875 well, now you know
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@conor.3875 Still confused about the difference in fact vs opinion, I see
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@conor.3875 No, it doesn't, but being that there's only 1 kind of woman, and that they're ALL born female-- 'trans', is the only conceivable modifier that might matters, because using 'Cis' would be entirely ridiculous
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@conor.3875 Your juvenile argument is incorrect.
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@Maksie0 How one subjectively identifies doesn't alter objective reality. Trans women are Men with issues pretending that they're women without issues-- Still Men. Take your time to process reality. Sex/Gender= 2 (Male, Female) Personality traits and temperament = Many (None are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, tomboys) Gender Roles (Vary from culture to culture, and country to country) ALL based around the various social aspects of being male or female, respectively in those various cultures, societies and countries
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@conor.3875 Wrong, and wrong again. You've yet to prove anything I've written is incorrect. All you have done is prove yourself to be a trans-activist agent provocateur-- who argues for sport and fails to persuade, when challenged.
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@conor.3875 Dude-- You're ridiculous! Trans women are Men with issues, pretending to be women without issues, having hissy fits when people recognize that they're men in a dress, and really aren't inclined to participate in their LARP and cosplay, as though it were based in reality. Quit conflating women, with social constructs like gender roles-- which vary from culture to culture, country to country and internationally, because they're not feelings or costumes that men can put on or take off, and they've been long established, in all of those various cultures and societies.
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@conor.3875 And NONE of them aren't born female.
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There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female. That dude Blossom wasn't-- and isn't ANY KIND of woman, at all.
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Trans women are men with a quirky fashion sense-- still men
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@Maksie0 There's no undoing top surgery and infertility
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narcissist too?
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@Maksie0 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born females. Those dudes weren't and will never be women; They're imposters and posers. Cope and seethe harder
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@Queenceba29 Transphobia is such a toothless label. It shouldn't surprise me that they think that has any validity to it at all. The minute they use that, just know they lost-- and you won the argument. There are no trans people. There are only males and females.
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@jenniep.9143 Maksie and Marcus are trolls
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@markusbaker1161 Black's law dictionary defines a woman as an adult, human, female. How do you figure? What are you talking about? Their desire to be recognized as a construct?
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@markusbaker1161 I get it now... Those men wish to be seen as social constructs. Thanks
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@markusbaker1161 Clowns are a social construct
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@markusbaker1161 What, getting you to respond like a clown? Ya, I know
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@markusbaker1161 How haven't you? lol Trans women are a social construct played by men, who believe that altering their appearance hides that they are men.
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@markusbaker1161 You're the one that insists on calling men trans women, and saying trans women are women. It doesn't matter That doesn't invalidate the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species being male and female, now does it? Trans women are a social construct played by men, who believe that altering their appearance will hide that they are men. If you want to play along, go for it. It's cosplay and LARPing gone unchecked and unrestrained, imo
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@markusbaker1161 The women who are being called cis by trans women against their will and having their privacy encroached on against their will believe their considerations matter too, might wonder why they don't get that same consideration
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@markusbaker1161 There's a bunch of them here in the comment section protesting the cis terminology and having their private spaces like their locker rooms, rest rooms, dressing rooms, sports teams and prisons being granted access to those men-- noting it's the height of misogyny.
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@markusbaker1161 Don't be a dunce. Read the comments
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@markusbaker1161 To find the answers to your questions
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Correction: Facts don't change stoopid people's minds
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Bathrooms, showers, locker rooms, dressing rooms, changing rooms, prisons are designed and implemented around biology. What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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@zojaalicjaf1987 All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, preferences or costumes, and there are exactly zero exceptions.
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It takes-- 1st being female, to actually become a woman. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally.
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It looks like they still haven't figured out that personality traits and temperament aren't synonymous with gender yet. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@msrainbowbrite That condition of being male is fixed and permanent. They're merely caricatures of what they wish they were
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@Maksie0 Who are you to talk, Blossom
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@Maksie0 You tell me, why should a male be granted access to women's private spaces like dressing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, sports teams or prisons?
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Getting back to the topic and realizing that the incoherent ideology is inappropriately conflating the variability in personality traits and temperament-- none of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys, w/ gender - and that's causing a lot of confusion among lo-fi- thinkers and the impressionable. Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively-- and male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive hence effemiante males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@greenlanternhaljordan4974 See above... Quit conflating gender w/ personality traits and temperament. It's totally inappropriate
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@greenlanternhaljordan4974 Your comment which is apparently now deleted-- not withstanding scrutiny, evidenced by your reply which is not a refutation.
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Not surprising from people with mental problems
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Give it a rest. Being gay nowadays is trendy with no stigma attached like there was in the past
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How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition, and are then considered "rational"?
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Psych case
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There is only 1 kind of woman and as it turns out, ALL women are born female, making the use of 'cis' entirely irrelevant and utterly useless
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*Him. That dude isn't any kind of woman.
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@FittedMisfits1 Women aren't a threat men
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@markusbaker1161 That you're unable to make the distinction between gender and gender roles is a YOU problem
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@robo1513 Gaslight harder
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Personality and gender aren't the same thing. Learn the difference.
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@wizardweeb3102 Their entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh
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Just some perspective: California is the least literate state in the nation.
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@GAYmergirl709 You say that as if it's a bad thing
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@GAYmergirl709 Objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent. TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not
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@mariec3733 There is no science anywhere proving that men can become women, illustrating that your narrative is a totally bogus faith-based belief with zero evidence to support your claim that trans women are women. Checkmate / You lost
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@mariec3733 Gender roles are constructed around the biological reality that there are differences between the sexes male and female, respectively. Your subjective trans clown identity doesn't alter your biology
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Then, they should quit whining about having their own restrooms and going into inappropriate spaces designed for women-- no?
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@markusbaker1161 So, you're saying they aren't whining about using women's restrooms as though they should be allowed to? Ya, ok...
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@markusbaker1161 I haven't heard of any reports of women, who've altered their appearance assaulting men in men's rooms. Have you?
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@markusbaker1161 The News is full of articles
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, the news... Since they're verifiable, with a cursory search of trans attackers-- posting the articles seemed unnecessary. I don't understand why you're an advocate of 'Normalizing' psych disorders with affirmation-- suggesting it's normal. You wouldn't do that to someone who's schizophrenic insisting that they can fly, while standing on a roof top, or with an Anorexic, by suggesting that yes-- they should lose more weight. Knowing what you do now, re: the self-termination rates of these people, even after altering their appearance clearly-- their appearance isn't at the root of the problem.
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Trans is the fringe-- Women aren't the opposite of trans, they're the standard which trans women aka men are trying to emulate-- making the cis distinction entirely irrelevant and redundant
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@markusbaker1161 Do you still mutilate yourself?
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@mariec3733 Well, their endorsement of the trans narrative is clear-- so make of that what you will
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@markusbaker1161 What's your reasoning for you dismissing the opposing medical expert professionals assessment and their reasoning?
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@markusbaker1161 I recognize that people have rights, and that different countries have different laws and rights. What are you on about?
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@markusbaker1161 if they are somehow different than human rights, then no I don't recognize them-- as you've failed to articulate what those additional rights might be. People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day-- I mean like 2014 and earlier. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules, it has nothing to do with gender.
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@mariec3733 You don't care about women's rights
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@mariec3733 The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total absence of any actual virtue in any of your unhinged whinging, and baseless claims. Mental illness isn't something new-- I get that
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@mariec3733 That is your explanation for how they built the pyramids and monoliths, and moved those heavy stones that we still can't figure out how to do-- today. You're clearly very confused about a host of topics
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@mariec3733 HILARIOUS! Happy, married, retired, stable family, happy, well-adjusted kids who are productive members of society and financially independent here. It must really irk you that I'm doing GREAT, but you do go on telling yourself creative stories that just aren't so, and convince yourself they are true, but you're not fooling anyone but yourself.
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@mariec3733 As if you had a clue about what's true. :face-green-smiling: Your capacity for logic, reason, truth and deciphering fact from fiction has not yet been demonstrated.
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@mariec3733 What you're doing is called projection. Get help. Do better in life
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@mariec3733 There are people. They are male and female. There are segments of each which present with birth defects and psych disorders, neither of which invalidate the binary of all mammalian species. Developmental sex disorders are not separate sexes/genders. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspect of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Too many, including you are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive, hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) and are incorrectly attempting to use the term as a synonym for/with gender
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@mariec3733 Then justify why those men should be granted access to women's private spaces. You can't do it
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@markusbaker1161 In my country those laws already exist for everyone
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@markusbaker1161 I recognize the laws that exist in my country-- I already told you that. Do you recognize women's rights?
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@markusbaker1161 The question is, do you recognize women's rights? They are after all, the same as the one's you listed
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@markusbaker1161 Stay TF out of women's private spaces. Your rights end where's someone else's begin
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@markusbaker1161 "Socialism has a history of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it".-- T. Sowell
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@markusbaker1161 Your lack of self-awareness is amazing. You say that, while advocating that men be granted access to women's spaces.
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@mariec3733 The only one you're fooling is yourself.
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“The truth has no defense against a fool determined to believe a lie.”
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Dude is emotionally and intellectually stunted
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f'n gr00mers... Leave parenting to the parents. Raise your own
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@nophhii Has connecting the intellectual dots always presented a problem for you, or are you just being a petulant child who's arguing for the sake or argument?
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@nophhii Gaslight harder. They seem to be eliminating themselves in record numbers, which shows how much they don't care for their own, and that's got nothing to do with me.
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@nophhii Cope Harder.
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It seems to me that they totally get it wrong on gender. Then, they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate males with females. Then, they conflate men and women. Then, they conflate fact with fiction.
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@mossy_oak Gender-- There are 2 male and female. They conflate personality with gender,gender with gender roles, male with female and men with women. There is only one kind of woman and they're all born female
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Test that theory in a Muslim country. Let us know how it goes
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@nerd5 No, it doesn't
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@nerd5 It illustrates her hypocrisy
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@Maksie0 OR instead-- choose to be correct
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@markusbaker1161 Nonsense. Science has not proven that males who identify as something other than males become something other than males. Cite the study. I dare you
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@markusbaker1161 The point is, they aren't called women because they aren't women.
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@markusbaker1161 No, the point is they're not women or they'd be called-- women, not trans-women
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@markusbaker1161 The point is, they're men not women. If they were recognized by science as women, they'd just be called women. Their subjective identity couldn't be less relevant when discussing biology.
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@markusbaker1161 Cite the source of the "science" you're referring to
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@markusbaker1161 You got nuthin... :text-green-game-over:
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@markusbaker1161 Nah... reality is on my side. The biology is already established, validating my statements. The psych science validates my statements as well. Dissociative disorders are clearly defined as involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self.
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@markusbaker1161 So that's a No-- You can't cite anything proving anything. Got it. :text-green-game-over:
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@markusbaker1161 That doesn't invalidate the fact that the biological science is already established, validating my statements. The psych science validates my statements as well. Dissociative disorders are clearly defined as involving problems with memory, identity, emotion, perception, behavior and sense of self.
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@markusbaker1161 You've cited nothing whatsoever which disproves anything I've written. You're the one that asserts with ZERO evidence to prove it-- that calling men "transgender" is somehow relevant, or makes them something other than men. BTW-- No such evidence exists.
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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Cis/trans are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are. Those people are very confused
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Only if precision matters
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@ElanaVital83 That dude is an activist troll, who isn't even as deep as a baby spoon
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That dude is a trans activist agent provocateur. What they exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing they were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as they wished they were.
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He appears not to like himself too much either... So much so that he's attempting to reinvent himself into the polar opposite of what he actually is.
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@markusbaker1161 That's my response to some hairy dude in a dress screaming, "It's MA'AM"
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@markusbaker1161 Not even-- I think it's hilarious. 🤡
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@markusbaker1161 Then quit your whining. They have the same rights as any other men
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@markusbaker1161 What you're referring to as 'transgender' are still men or women, respectively. Same rights apply. Try to focus Your incorrect presumptions are a YOU problem. You're just complaining and arguing for sport. It doesn't matter if you're upset or not. You just want attention, and you seem to thrive on negative attention from stoking anti-social and counter-culture interactions, by playing the part of the fool. Congratulations! Thanks for the opportunity to expose you and the fallacy of your arguments for what they are
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@markusbaker1161 I reject your entire narrative and dismiss it as lunacy
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@markusbaker1161 I reject that nonsense. I don't care about some quacks approval or narrative to validate what I can see with my own eyes. Believe what you will. It doesn't matter
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@markusbaker1161 blah, blah, blah. I'm not so blind that I have difficulty deciphering the difference between males and females. You fail to persuade, why those men that you're referring to as transgender should be granted access to women's private spaces.
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@markusbaker1161 Nah... I recognize gender pretenders, when I see them
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@markusbaker1161 Of course you don't. I'm not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that I can promote make believe, or cater to feelings by pretending I don't recognize that they aren't that which they present themselves as. They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits.
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@markusbaker1161 That you believe it matters is cringe.
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@markusbaker1161 Aww... You apparently think your opinion is noteworthy. More cringe :face-green-smiling::face-turquoise-covering-eyes:🤕:text-green-game-over:🤡
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@markusbaker1161 Not according to the comments here in the comment section-- it isn't. Yours is the cult minority opinion
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@markusbaker1161 Looks like I'm living rent-free in Your head, stalker. Zero evidence to support your claims to be found anywhere. Not here, not there, not anywhere. :face-turquoise-drinking-coffee::face-turquoise-covering-eyes::person-turqouise-waving::text-green-game-over:👎
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@markusbaker1161 No evidence to support your claims anywhere to be found, because you're wrong. No evidence of you refuting anything I've written, because I'm correct
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@Maksie0 It's intellectually stunted, and totally useless since ALL women are born female, ALL men are born male, and neither are a mere social construct, feeling, fetish nor costume
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@mariec3733 Therefore, those males/men have no reason to be granted access to women's private spaces. Do you get it now?
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@mariec3733 You said trans women are women. Looks like you're saying women are a social construct, and I wouldn't put it past you dear-- you haven't made any coherent case yet-- to support that statement or to explain the logic behind it.
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@kamala7101 1st prove that race isn't biological
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@markusbaker1161 Well that's excellent news. Racism is then now non-existent. Society can now abandon all forms of affirmative action based on race.
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@mariec3733 You can keep asking too. If you don't answer my questions, your expectation to have me provide answers to your questions is out of touch. Men are men regardless of their self-perceptions
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@mariec3733 Ask yourself the question, while you're busy avoiding answering my questions
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@markusbaker1161 That doesn't justify you believing in the hocus pocus nonsense you've been peddling, either
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@markusbaker1161 Why do you believe what's being peddled by mad scientists who claimed the c19 vaxx prevented transmission, and provided any immunity, that wearing masks prevented the transmission of air born viruses is fact?
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@Jhon Dalton I too, find it fascinating that no one has been able to make any sense out of any of it either. Pure madness
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@mariec3733 You're projecting again.
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@Jhon Dalton Feel free to lie to yourself, and cling to your ignorance. You could go to a surgeon and alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek if you wish-- and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon-- and if you think it does-- you're delusional.
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@Jhon Dalton Your expression of being something you're not-- make sense out of that idea granting access to those men to women's spaces. Ready? Go...
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@mariec3733 Observing your failure to justify allowing men into women's spaces shows that you have no respect for women's rights
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@Jhon Dalton Think deeper thoughts. It's also dressing rooms, locker rooms, sports teams, and prisons-- not just restrooms. It's unadulterated misogyny. Those are men, they will always be men. Their imaginations and subjective personality traits and temperament don't change the fact that those being referred to s 'trans women' aren't trans anything-- They're men
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@Jhon Dalton Personality traits, subjective identity and temperament don't change men into women. It isn't complicated. No one said that people can't express themselves as they see fit. Sorry but someone's choice to cosplay and engage in LARPing doesn't actually make them that in reality-- nor does it obligate all of society to play along, abandoning logic, reason, and objective reality that they can see with their own eyes--displacing women's rights in the process.
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@Jhon Dalton The thing that cross dressers, drag queens and trans women all have in common is-- they're all men. There is no justification for granting those men access to women's private spaces. YOU don't seem to get that
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@Jhon Dalton Well, you can neuter your male dog, put him in a dress, put bows in his hair, paint his wittle paw nails etc., and he's still a male dog. Who said we had to play along? fr-- The whole preferred pronouns insistence thing, granting those men access to women's Sports, Sports teams, Locker rooms, Restrooms, Showers, and Prisons.
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@Jhon Dalton You conflate social constructs with biology, when you say trans women are women. It's patently absurd and totally incorrect. Women aren't a social construct; trans however, IS. Those are men Your cult narrative is rejected.
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@Maksie0 Not even close to a she. That dude is unhinged
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@Maksie0 Cope and seethe harder. LOL
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@imaleoncruz One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. Objective biological realities are not up for debate. Men cannot become women-- * His If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
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@QueenQuinTV Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. *-- He
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@QueenQuinTV Men can NOT become women. How is that confusing to you? I refuse to misgender him, by calling him a her/she
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@killa4sho313 "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance". -- T. Sowell
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@ronswansonsdog2833 I get it. Not all trans people suffer w/ gender dysphoria. Some are just dressing up to embrace their own cosplay kink
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@markusbaker1161 If they respected themselves, they would not need others to affirm their subjective identity over the reality that they aren't that which they present themselves as
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@markusbaker1161 If what you said were true, they would not need others to affirm their subjective identity over the reality that they aren't that which they present themselves as. I respect that which is respectable, but make no mistake respect is earned not demanded
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@markusbaker1161 I recognize them. I just recognize them as what they are, as opposed to how they wish they were recognized. Not a complicated equation
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, it is recognition. Facts don't care about your feelings.
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@markusbaker1161 Changing what you call something, doesn't change the thing into something else. Only the name changes
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@markusbaker1161 Your nonsense
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@markusbaker1161 How are they-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? Why should those men who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria be granted access to women's private spaces? You got nuthin Blossom Go play the part of the fool w/ someone else
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James Brown look-alike contestant, NO doubt
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@Maksie0 That's still wrong. There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female. Get a clue
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Gender is Binary, Male and Female. It's not an issue. The only issue is people w/ psych disorders who don't live in reality about there being two genders.
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@Maksie0 Yes, it is and yes they are. You're conflating gender and gender roles again
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@franciscagaisie778 Correct. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and refers also to the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. They tend to conflate gender and gender roles, then they conflate the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender, as though they're synonymous-- and they are not.
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@conor.3875 Those men will always be men, regardless of how they perceive themselves
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@conor.3875 The Dunning-Krueger effect seems to have a grasp on you
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@franciscagaisie778 It amounts to nothing more than an extreme form of cosplay and LARPing
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Happy Holidays and remember-- Just because you put on a Santa costume-- it doesn't actually make you Santa, even if you do fool some people
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@deaf_bear The title said it was about conservative women too. Fyi-- There's nothing phobic about recognizing that someone is not that which they claim... It just makes one observant.
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@becky14 Phobia= an irrational fear. There's no fear in recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim to be. Like I said, it just makes me observant
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@becky14 I told you a phobia is an irrational fear. You appear to be having difficulty with that definition. I recommend YOU look it up. Recognizing that someone is not that which they claim to be isn't a matter of fear or prejudice-- it's a matter of recognizing objective reality, making one observant. That is all
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@becky14 Being observant and recognizing that someone isn't that which they claim to be isn't in and of itself-- any of those things. Try again??
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@becky14 Also Becky, they are not trans anything. They're still the same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance and their natural chemistry, as they are after. Still male or female, respectively-- as they started out as from birth
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@becky14 There are people, and they are male or female. They both have segments which present w/ birth defects and others with various psych disorders, some w/ both. They aren't trans ANYTHING. They're the same sex/gender prior to surgery altering their appearance and chemistry, as they are after. All they're doing is altering their appearance. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent
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@becky14 Many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), with gender
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@becky14 You got it wrong again... I said, they aren't trans anything, despite their self-perceived identity's. I believe there are people, and they are male or female and that segments of both have physical birth defects and some have various psych issues and some have both-- Still male or female though.
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@becky14 You appear to have a massive reading comprehension deficit at play. I, unfortunately-- can't fix that for you. Perhaps, try re-reading the explanations already provided, only s l o w e r this time, so you don't miss it again.
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Should do doctors pro and con re: the efficacy and the ethics of affirmation-based treatment protocols, considering the self-delete rates and de-transitioner's regrets
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@Maksie0 Because all women are born female, all men are born male, and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference or costume-- making the use of cis/trans totally irrelevant and useless
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@Maksie0 You, apparently still haven't yet figured out that your term is rejected by the majority, as total nonsense
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@mshoney9301 Now you're conflating gender with gender roles, males with females, females with males, and personality traits and temperament with gender as if they're synonymous-- and they are not
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@Maksie0 What is a woman?
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@markusbaker1161 A social construct. LOL
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@markusbaker1161 Women are not a social construct dear.
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The prefix cis is redundant at best and thoroughly useless. It's a virtueless virtue signal attempt
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Cut to the chase. Why, according to you-- should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim that they're women.
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@markusbaker1161 I didn't quote them. I did ask question though. Care to take a shot at answering it? 🦗🦗🦗
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@markusbaker1161 Weak... You fail at life
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@markusbaker1161 l8r gayter
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@markusbaker1161 To see if anyone can explain the rational for suggesting men should be granted access to women's spaces, because of their subjective self-proclaimed identity, contrary to reality-- and make it make sense
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Blossom is a m0r0n. If some dude who presents as a woman, isn't on hormones, or doesn't have any surgical procedures-they're EXACTLY like those who do- Still men, and Exactly like a drag queen/cross-dresser-- Still men, and their feelings don't alter reality in the slightest
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@OHOHOHOOHOHOOOHOOHOHO The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. If one's identity is predicted on the notion that all of society must recognize you as you perceive yourself, contrary to objective reality-- Then that identity isn't valid. One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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Losah Tattletales Bullseye 🎯
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That dude is still a dude, regardless of altering his appearance and wardrobe
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@silpsizzup1299 Not me. Nonetheless-- they're merely a caricature of what they wish they were, and can NEVER be -- women. The truth matters
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@markusbaker1161 You seem vested in your insistence that they are what they say they are because of feelings, regardless of reality. Cognitive Dissonance or a dissociative, delusional state... either way-- Not my problem.Your opinions couldn't be less relevant or useless. Run along
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@Maksie0 Do you? Your anti-social interpersonal cries for negative attention, are not earning you any acceptance or compassion. They're just you, making a spectacle of yourself, causing the divide your community alleges they wish to bridge. Congratulations, you're only fooling yourself
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@Maksie0 Well, she doesn't require your approval for feeling offended, and she certainly doesn't have to qualify it to you. Who do you think you are?
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@markusbaker1161 Nope. My question may be considered rhetorical and it makes the point nonetheless
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@markusbaker1161 Just stating some known, and easily verifiable facts that anyone who can read can look up and read for themselves.
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@markusbaker1161 Oh, okay... You know males and females aren't the same thing, and that they aren't interchangeable and that fact is undeniable? IF gender is a mere social construct, as you suggest-- and disconnected from biology (I disagree), then transgender is a mere social construct, which in NO WAY justifies those men violating women's private spaces such as dressing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, sports teams or prisons, if it has NOTHING to do with biology. Make it make sense
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@markusbaker1161 IF gender is a mere social construct, as you suggest-- and disconnected from biology (I disagree), then transgender is a mere social construct, which in NO WAY justifies granting access to those men into women's private spaces such as dressing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, sports teams or prisons, if it has NOTHING to do with biology. Make it make sense. You got anything? It seems like an incoherent bit of madness for those who advocate such a thing
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@markusbaker1161 Run away like a coward
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@markusbaker1161 It was not meant to be taken literally. You, choosing not to engage with intellectual integrity, and instead aim to agitate and draw as many inane conclusions as possible, to honest and legitimate questions is not productive to clarifying how your logic stands up to scrutiny, when challenged. No worries. I preferred you were operating with honesty and integrity, but as the Rolling Stones said-- you can't always get what you want.
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@markusbaker1161 The women who are being called cis by trans women against their will and having their privacy encroached on against their will believe their considerations matter too, might wonder why they don't get that same consideration from those men who you call trans women, and wonder how that's not the height of misogyny.
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@markusbaker1161 You seem to have no problem responding,giving me the opportunity to highlight your idiocy
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@markusbaker1161 When ask the same questions but expect a different answer every time isn't too bright on your part. shocker
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@Ipernova They're not trying to win a debate. They're trying to shut down debates by causing chaos and by filling the roles of aggitators
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Nope. You can't change your sex.
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@Maksie0 You need some new material
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The prerequisite to becoming a woman is-- being born female, and trans-women aren't that. They're men, and are in no way entitled to access to women's private spaces.
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@markusbaker1161 Not a global law. You seem to have a vested interest in suggesting that men, when presenting as women-- should be granted access to women's spaces and that women should be okay with that.
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@markusbaker1161 You indicted that the law might change if I cry harder, as though it is a matter of law everywhere, and that the failure to affirm someone's subjective identity is illegal-- and It isn't. We can agree to disagree. The point is people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. That's insane One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking. Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct. The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament, as if/though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@markusbaker1161 It's okay-- Blossom. You lost the debate. Move on
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@markusbaker1161 Yes, You lost. Get to a safe space and consult your comfort pet
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@markusbaker1161 Blossom, you lost when you stood with an ideological narrative which is predicated upon the notion that one's subjective identity, obligates the rest of society around the world to deny objective reality, and affirm that they perceive you as you perceive yourself, in stark contrast to objective reality by suggesting that men should be granted access to women's private spaces-- It's asinine.
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@markusbaker1161 And you have failed to do so. The narrative you stand in solidarity with, says that trans-women are women. It's asinine
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@markusbaker1161 The data validates my analysis and exposes the incoherence of your interpretation of the data
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@markusbaker1161 After you provide evidence to support the asinine claim that trans-women aka men are women.
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@markusbaker1161 And you believe calling something by a different name transforms that thing? HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
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@markusbaker1161 Not even close. It's so blatantly obvious, that if you can't see it, you never will. men cannot and do not become women, just because you change their label, and call them something else
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@markusbaker1161 Gaslight harder! There's no phobia in discerning facts from fiction.
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@markusbaker1161 Your ignorance of the existence or slamming your eyes shut to the news stories covering the objections of women about their sports teams, locker rooms, restrooms and prisons by trans-women-- doesn't invalidate them.
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@Maksie0 Not even close dear. That dude is unhinged from reality
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@Diamondsparkle788 Still a dude w/severe issues
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@Diamondsparkle788 He appears to have a difficult time accepting reality vs his imagination. I'm more of a golden brown, when I get out in the sun
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They can... however; It doesn't make it true
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@Maksie0 Yours seems to revolve around being a troll and making a spectacle of yourself, establishing nothing and refuting even less
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@hcos8139 NEWSFLASH: People that are born female grow up and become women, not men.
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BUT-- not unexpected from delusional people
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They're not Trans ANYTHING. They're the same exact sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after-- which means they're still men. Dude has some serious psych issues
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Yes... They're gender pretenders. They're the exact same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance, as they are after they do
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@empresscrafts689 Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. You're inappropriately and incorrectly conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender
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@Maksie0 Weird, why do you feel they owe you an explanation?
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Quit conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (neither is gender exclusive -- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), as though they're synonymous with gender. They are not
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@markusbaker1161 How so?
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@markusbaker1161 It looks like you've never read any study, confirming the facts that the variability of personality traits and temperament (neither of which are gender exclusive -- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and you operate as though they're synonymous with gender, when They are not. How are they-- who do not suffer w/ gender dysphoria- but dress and present as female, not just men with a quirky fashion sense? Quit cowering away from answering And I also asked, Why should those men who don't suffer w/ gender dysphoria be granted access to women's private spaces? and you ran away from answering that too You got nuthin Blossom
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@markusbaker1161 You got no integrity Blossom. Whinge away
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@markusbaker1161 Just know that in the future, when you insist on your preferred pronouns idiocy, the response will be "I don't care", and it'll be delivered with a smile. I've already exposed the idiocy of your narrative's claims that trans women are women to be ridiculous I know you haven't answered with integrity or honesty, and I don't presume that you will-- just like in the video. Kick Rocks Blossom
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@markusbaker1161 Your willingness to prioritize trans issues over women is noted. Dudes in a dress-- by any other name, are dudes in a dress; they aren't trans anything
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@mariec3733 You say that, as though you have any credibility. That's wrong
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@conor.3875 Nope. Your rights end where another's begin.
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@conor.3875 Justify men being granted access into women's private spaces-- infringing on their privacy rights. Ready.... Go
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@conor.3875 I haven't seen you or anyone else make a coherent case why women's privacy rights should be restricted because some dude in a dress says they're a woman. Make it make sense. I dare you
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@conor.3875 Because they're men
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@conor.3875 As it turns out, the prerequisite to being a woman is being born female, and those men that you refer to as trans women-- weren't. A woman is an an adult, human, female. Cope Harder I reject your cult terminology. People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and earlier. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules, it has nothing to do with gender. Now you know
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Cis/Trans are used in chemistry, to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules; it has NOTHING to do with gender. Gender and Personality-- They haven't learned the difference. There's only one kind of woman, and they are all born females, so... using the cis prefix is totally redundant and unnecessary. The entire ideological narrative is incoherent nonsense. They completely get it wrong on gender. Then they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate what women are with men. smh There are males and females. That's it! Men in drag are still men. A woman isn't a costume, personality or a social construct; She's one half of the binary dichotomy of mammals specifically humans. Only 2 facts are needed to settle the trans topic. 1. The body and brain develop & grow together -> One simply can't be born in the wrong body. 2. Hating a part of their body so much that they opt to cut it off, despite it functioning properly-- is a mental illness.
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There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female making the use of cis/trans ridiculous. Cis/trans are terms used by radical activists to pretend that there's merit to their incoherent claims
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Yes, Psych issues exist and they don't alter objective reality
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@markusbaker1161 What's respectable about presenting yourself as something you're not?
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@markusbaker1161 Until someone earns respect, none is issued. Just existing doesn't do it
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@markusbaker1161 Correct, just existing doesn't illicit respect. Respect is a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements.
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@markusbaker1161 Giving birth is the achievement of the woman who-- having the ability to foster new life and give birth-- illustrating a female quality. I don't conflate consideration of or care for someone/something with respect. You can if you want to
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@markusbaker1161 And?? Not ANY trans women can give birth. I don't hate men, and those who you're referring to as transgender women, are men. Gender and sex aren't disconnected. Gender is NOT a social construct. You can stomp your feet about it all you want and it changes nothing. Gender roles are the social constructs and they're well-established, which is why the counter-culture trans-narrative is itself the real construct and you seem unable to process that distinction. Your inability to process the truth of it, doesn't invalidate the truth. We're not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe, or cater to feelings. NO! Just... No They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits. Cry about it,and argue about it-- if you must. It matters not
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@markusbaker1161 I reject your entire narrative as lunacy
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@thankyouforbeingafriend9632 It's not society's role to accommodate you, as though you're the center of the universe. It's for you to integrate into society. Cope Harder
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@Maksie0 That's the sound of men and women everywhere rejecting your ideology. You better get used to it.
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Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally. No?
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@markusbaker1161 How so?
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@markusbaker1161 Same sex/gender prior to altering their appearance as they are after they do. They're nothing more than a cheap knockoff of the genuine article. Some synonyms for caricature are: parody, joke, cartoon, sham, farce, mockery... Take your pick, either way-- they're not women and never will be. Too bad, So sad-- sir
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@markusbaker1161 Take it as you wish. It's correct, nonetheless. Respect is earned, and is reserved for that which is actually respectable.
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@markusbaker1161 The thing is, your opinions, arguments and conclusions are devoid of integrity, and don't stand up to scrutiny. Your acceptance isn't required, and I reject your arguments
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Re: temperament-- women tend to be more agreeable than men, and these men LARPing as women are disagreeable twits
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@Maksie0 Who cares!! There is no science anywhere that shows men can become women and until that happens, your narratives are baseless
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Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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@anicon5892 There are only males and females. Trans women are Men with issues, pretending that they're women without issues-- Still Men.
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@Maksie0 Men cannot become women. Are you with me so far?
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@markusbaker1161 Translation = Male in a costume-- not any kind of woman by any measure. The ONLY women are biological women. They're LARPing or engaging in cosplay at BEST
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@markusbaker1161 Gender dysphoria is a psych disorder, according to the DSM5. Those who are suffering from it are still not the sex which they identify or present as. Those who don't suffer from it are just men in women's clothes. They're not some new form of woman What's your point?
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@markusbaker1161 I didn't use that terminology. It's a mental disorder. Feel free to spar with yourself over terminology. The point is, they are not that which they present themselves to be. They're men disguised as women, and their disguises, as elaborate as they can get-- don't invalidate the fact that they're men, and it certainly doesn't make them women. Wrestle with the reality all you wish-- it changes nothing
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@markusbaker1161 No, being correct means I'm correct. They're men is a dress-- Not women. It's just as simple as that. Their claimed identities of being women, don't make them women. Those who identify as transgender are still men in cosplay, they're not any kind of woman. Your suggestion otherwise doesn't invalidate reality. They're still men, and suggesting otherwise is what's absurd. They are not women, and shouldn't be infiltrating women's spaces like restrooms, sports teams, locker rooms or in prisons, because they're Men
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@markusbaker1161 You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and have not justified allowing men to infiltrate women's private places, because of their subjective identity claims. Why do you hate and disrespect women?
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@markusbaker1161 Why would you advocate that men should be able to infiltrate the private spaces of women, like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? How is that demonstrating any respect for women??
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@markusbaker1161 When you acknowledged that trans is denoting or relating to a person whose gender identity does not correspond with the sex registered for them at birth, which shows you agree that they're men not women-- Then, you continue to suggest that it's somehow trans-phobia to recognize that they are not that which they present themselves but suggest the trans prefix somehow validates them going into women's spaces
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not sure why you think, pointing out the inconsistency within your narratives is somehow evidence of me being upset. It looks again, like you're trying to be edgy, provocative, and argue for argument's sake. If you want to call me trans-phobic-- I really couldn't care less. There's no there-- there. You can rename men 'trans', and it changes nothing but the name. It doesn't change them or make them women or illustrate that they're trans anything. If your subjective identity is predicated on the notion that society needs to ignore objective reality, then your identity is not valid. Nonetheless, my observations regarding your comments are that you have not illustrated any respect for women and their private spaces by advocating in favor of men being allowed to infiltrate their spaces. Why, according to you-- should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗 Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim that they're women.
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@markusbaker1161 The activist narrative that trans-women are women. I look forward to not seeing further comments from you directed at me then. Question to the peanut gallery in general... Why should men (regardless of you renaming them Trans-women-- they're still men) be granted access to women's private spaces, based on their subjective identity claims, which aren't validated by objective reality?? 🙄 Answer: They shouldn't. It's totally unjustifiable
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@markusbaker1161 The idea that men should be allowed access to women's spaces because of their feelings and/or unverifiable claims of a subjective identity-- is unjustified.
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@gothicgolem2947 Womanhood isn't a costume one can put on. You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, prescribe hormones, etc., and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon, and if you think it does-- You're Delusional. You can neuter your dog and make him wear a dress, and it does not make him a female dog. Just sayin... It's XX, XY, Birth defect, Mental disorder. That's it! Take your pick
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I have NO problem realizing that there are people who have identity issues. I wish them well in their endeavors to deal with those issues; however-- recognizing that they are not that which they present themselves as, that just makes me observant-- Not hateful I haven't been able to make sense of those who advocate affirmation care as a default protocol. The sad fact about the people who suffer with gender dysphoria, and those who inappropriately put themselves under the same umbrella-- who do not suffer with it, yet cosplay as though they do, have other underlying traumatic issues in play-- in addition and the su***de (both prior to and post surgery) is so much higher than the norm, and post surgery-- the numbers I've seen are astronomically high as well, showing unremarkable movement-- SO-- that being said, I just don't see how it's possible to see those rates and believe it's effective. Can you make it make sense? I can't
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@markusbaker1161 Agree, but the numbers are SOOOO much higher than the expected rate, in every study I've seen-- that there's something going on that makes me question the efficacy of the affirmation treatment protocols. Do you think that's an unreasonable question worth pursuing? It sheds a MASSIVE spot light on the treatment being horrible. How can those numbers possibly be justified by those prescribing treatment based on the patient's feeling, rather than (considering the other factors) that getting to the root of their dysphoria is not showing acceptable numbers to get anywhere near close to being concrete, but the treatment course, in the extreme is permanent. It just isn't justifiable from my point of view. btw-- I much prefer to have this sort of interaction. It's appreciated
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@emilys8072 There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born females. Those dudes weren't and cannot ever be women
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B I N G O! We have a Winner
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That unhinged dude is an activist, agent provocateur, pushing an incoherent, cult agenda
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:face-green-smiling::face-blue-smiling: Who told you that? Of course they are. Transgender is a social construct, and doesn't alter biology at all
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The insistence on grammatically incorrect usage of pronouns is off-putting
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@mariec3733 I reject your cult terminology. People weren't calling women or men cis or trans back in the day, and when I say back in the day I mean like 2014 and earlier. Cis/Trans are used in chemistry to determine the stability and certain placement of molecules, it has nothing to do with gender. Now you know
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Gender and sex aren't disconnected. Gender is NOT a social construct. Gender roles are the social constructs and they're well-established, which is why the counter-culture trans-narrative is itself the real construct and they are unable to process that distinction. Their inability to process the truth of it, doesn't invalidate the truth. We're not going to ignore what we actually can observe with our own eyes, so that we can promote make believe, or cater to their subjective feelings. NO! Just... No They're still men Renaming a male 'trans', doesn't make him something else, and neither does his quirky fashion sense, or comedic parody of female behavior and personality traits. The entire narrative is incoherent nonsense
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Gender and sex are intrinsically linked. They're not disconnected. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
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@markusbaker1161 Being "trans" is the REAL construct. Same as they ever were. They're not trans anything, except in their imagination
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@vanthonvenus Nonsense. Re-read my 1st reply, only s l o w e r-- this time, for clarity. One's subjective identity, doesn't invalidate objective reality. Quite the opposite is true. If the validity of your identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then your identity is not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that. Intersex is a birth defect that doesn't invalidate the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species. 🤙
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Seed of the serpent vs the seed of the woman at play
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@markusbaker1161 If I told you I was a druid who knows about lots of religions, would it make you feel better? Don't care... Go away troll
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@markusbaker1161 It doesn't matter how you take it. It appears that you over-estimate the value of your opinion. You've already established yourself as a liar, religious bigot, antagonist, trans-activist and a misogynist. Your interactions have proven to be hostile, evasive, free from integrity, and in general-- substance free. I came here asking questions, scrutinizing some of the things you and others have said, and you haven't yet answered. You've failed to make your case. Deal with it.
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@markusbaker1161 Just telling it like it is. Don't dish it out, if you can't take it being returned to you Newsflash: Your acceptance isn't required
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@markusbaker1161 Your opinion is noted and has been rejected for a while now. Get used to it
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@markusbaker1161 The time for your nonsense is quickly coming to an end. My opinion is derived from facts and truth, yours is baseless blind faith in your cult narrative. You Lose
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@markusbaker1161 If you want to pretend that men are women, and women are men-- go ahead. LOL
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@Maksie0 You don't appear to understand how reality works
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@maximeminassian6002 It's a cult term, created and utilized to pretend that there's another kind of woman, other than those born female-- BUT there is Not. Women (ALL of them) are born female, with exactly ZERO exceptions. Take your time to process reality. A woman isn't a social construct, a feeling, s3xu@l preference, or a costume.
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Woman= An adult, human, female. How is it that Identities which conflict with biology, are Not those of people w/ various psych issues, who are delusional, and dissociative-- by definition?
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@Maksie0 What's your point? Since people break the law, abandon all laws?
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Making the point, by illustrating that one's subjective gender identity doesn't alter their biology-- that the entire narrative is incoherent madness, because if that were the case-- it wouldn't make those men anything other than men?? 🤔
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The common theme is they're Men, presenting as something they're not ie. women
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Bottom Line is, objective biological realities are not up for debate. If the validity of one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities-- then the identity is not valid.
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@ItsSchwifty Your comment isn't refuting anything and isn't very persuasive
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They have less integrity than a phone scammer
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@Sonworshipper As if that fool has a brain
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@markusbaker1161 are you a doctor who can debunk this?
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@markusbaker1161 Ignoring you now
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@ElanaVital83 You spelled mutilate wrong
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@aaralyn6710 Only if you don't know the definition of mutilation
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@aaralyn6710 Mastectomies and bottom surgeries definitely Do
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@batlover1977 All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference or a costume making the use of cis/trans irrelevant and intellectually shallow
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Nonsense
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It's not complicated. There is only 1 kind of woman and she's born female. Those dudes-- were not
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@mariec3733 The stats, in my opinion, show it to have horrendous results
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@mariec3733 The one's that show the rates of sui*idality
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From a Swedish study: "Conclusions: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suic***l behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."
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@briannachilders772 Nope... Not even close. Chopping off parts and a costume change, does not a woman make
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@markusbaker1161 Being trans is the construct based in fantasy. Cope Harder
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@markusbaker1161 Trans is the real construct. Trans is some male or female who tends to present as that which they are not, in the form of a caricature of the opposite sex-- generally because of a psych disorder or for attention, or Both. That you can't wrap your head around that is a YOU problem. Breathe...
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Exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule-- they prove the rule by being the exceptions. Gender is binary. Gender roles are the social construct that you prefer to focus on.
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@Maksie0 Give it a rest... There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the use of cis totally irrelevant
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@gummynoodles9036 Cis is a term used in chemistry to describe the position of certain molecules relative to one another, and has nothing to do with gender.
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When using the term 'gender', many are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There is no middle ground on that fact. It is what it is
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@R L Oh, Denial You haven't kept up on the news of the trans women placed into all female prison and r@ping and impregnating female inmates, or the stories of males dressed as girls, in HS r@ping HS girls. Middle Ground? Like I said, Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. There is no middle ground on that fact. It is what it is, and arguing with those who are disconnected from objective reality about it doesn't seem productive. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the absence of any actual virtue, in any of your unhinged triggered whinging.
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@Nicholenickinicscott I wasn't quoting you, but it appears you missed the point nonetheless. There is no such thing as trans ANYTHING. There is male (XY) and female (XX). You could have a surgeon alter your appearance and it doesn't make you trans-ANYTHING. You're still the same being w/ the same sex and gender prior to surgery, hormones, makeup and a wardrobe change-- as you are after. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect-- That's It!!
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So?
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Trans women are men. Men already have their own restrooms
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@Maksie0 THAT'S Wrong... Women are adult, human, females-- and those men aka trans women aren't that-- They're men. Women who are trans are trans men.
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@catboyash You spelled women incorrectly
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It's already happened several times
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@markusbaker1161 The court cases already did
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@markusbaker1161 No need. The courts already did
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@markusbaker1161 Internet search will verify what I said. :face-turquoise-covering-eyes:
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@yepitsjilly Making the point that your definition of gender doesn't affect biology, so how are those men justified in being granted access to women's private spaces?
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@markusbaker1161 You're saying women are transphobic because they don't want men in their spaces-- because you don't acknowledge women's rights, making you a misogynistic woman hater
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@markusbaker1161 blah blah blah... You said sex and gender were separate; making the point that one's subjective gender identity doesn't alter biology. Referring to biological men as trans women, then saying trans women are women is intellectually stunted and totally wrong Make it make sense
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@markusbaker1161 I'm not in it for 'points'. Your cult ideology is rejected. You say sex and gender are separate; making the point that one's subjective gender identity doesn't alter their biology. Referring to him as she is grammatically incorrect and absent any basis in reality. You're wrong
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@markusbaker1161 You say sex and gender are separate; making the point that one's subjective gender identity doesn't alter their biology. Referring to him as she is grammatically incorrect and absent any basis in reality. Prove me wrong
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Restrooms are designed and implemented, based on biology-- and your suggestion would do NOTHING regarding showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, sports scholarships, sports teams or prisons
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@evianlemons6543 No, it cuts through the nonsense-- and gets to the heart of the issue. Are you going to fund them,and then realize that the other things I mentioned aren't resolved with building a restroom for 67 gender identities??
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@slipperyslopedownward9041 With a definition that puts things in perspective
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@slipperyslopedownward9041 Makes your original comment less than useless
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What about "Dude". If they can't respect not using the cis prefix despite women protesting it's use, then they should quit their whining about preferred pronouns. No?
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Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Too many are inappropriately confusing and conflating gender with gender roles, and conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous and they are not, while simultaneously insisting that biological sex and gender are disconnected-- while failing to realize that a subjective identity doesn't alter anyone's biological reality. Lost souls
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@markusbaker1161 To you-- the activist troll? No doubt
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@markusbaker1161 You admitting that what I wrote is confusing to you is meaningless
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@markusbaker1161 For years, I worked with the developmentally disabled-- and they didn't have difficulty telling the difference between males and females. What your excuse?
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@markusbaker1161 Got it! You have No excuse. All you've done is, make the point that one's subjective gender identity doesn't alter their biology-- illustrating that those men are still men. :face-blue-smiling::face-green-smiling::text-green-game-over::person-turqouise-waving:
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@mariec3733 I worked with the developmentally disabled for years, and they didn't have difficulty deciphering the differences between men and women-- What's your excuse? 😵😵‍💫🥴🤕🙄
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@markusbaker1161 Islamophobe
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@markusbaker1161 You-- being a religious bigot
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@mariec3733 Don't need to see their DNA. Blossom for ex. Looks like James Brown in Drag... There's no mystery there... He's a dude
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@mariec3733 Maybe you can't-- But, the rest of the world can and has been able to decipher the differences between men and women since the dawn of time. That you can't is a YOU problem
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@mariec3733 It must seem that way to you, that common sense and basic observational capacity, coupled with an analytical capacity and ability to follow logic, is a super power. I can't put 3-digit IQ's worth of intelligence or understanding into a 2-digit IQ head space capacity-- and expect it would be understood
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Respect their 'truth'? Why would you presume a schizophrenic's dissociative delusions as 'truth'?
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Being "Trans" IS the construct-- based in fantasy. Not trans anything. Same as they ever were, regardless of altering their appearance or their wardrobe change
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