Comments by "Z P" (@zachman5150) on "Should Minors Transition? Detransition vs Trans | Middle Ground" video.

  1. That's typical for narcissists. That's just how they roll
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  2. Though, not surprising-- they're narcissists
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  3.  @HootyASMR  That isn't much of a refutation. You can pretend that trans women aren't men, but you're just in denial
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  4.  @guinnmyahslaysstaymad  Well, I know what it means, and I used it as intended. Just remember, when you think things are against you-- it's probably You, and the world doesn't owe you acceptance. If You want to integrate into society-- then remember that it's YOU, who needs to adapt. To insist that society must play along with your counter-culture position-- makes you seem arrogant, narcissistic, self-entitled and ridiculous. You're not the center of the universe and the world isn't going to reorganize itself to accommodate your subjective feelings, contrary to objective reality. You need to develop better coping mechanisms to deal with adversity, because not everyone is going to like you, or be accommodating.
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  5.  @gabriellaamaria4986  And surgery does nothing to alleviate the reality that people will recognize those who present as something they're not, because they're observant and live in an objective reality. If your identity requires that everyone in society affirm your sense of self, contrary to objective reality, and their participation in your LARP or cosplay is required to massage your feelings, then you better develop some better coping mechanisms to deal with the fact that the world doesn't owe you anything, and the vast majority of people reject the trans-activist ideological narrative, and that isn't going to change-- So-- considering that they're more accepted now than at any other time in history, yet continue to have a self-delete rate significantly higher than the general population-- the efficacy of a surgical approach doesn't appear to be the efficacious solution which curbs that... and moving forward with the notion that if only, everyone would just play along for their sake-- then I predict you're going to be severely disappointed. The world isn't going to reorganize itself for your benefit, and to suggest it ought to-- is the height of arrogance and self-entitlement. You better learn to cope much harder
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  6. They're morally bankrupt, intellectually shallow half-wits, w/ mental issues trying to convince the world to deny objective reality, and embrace their delusions as reality. The answer is NO... just No Trans women are men with issues, pretending to be women without issues. Regardless of the facts, an irrational thought process lacks the capacity to come to intelligent, rational conclusions.
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  7.  @RaidenKunii  Having a lack of coping mechanisms to deal with reality, and the adversity one faces in life-- is a psych issue, that surgery doesn't alleviate-- which begs the questioning of affirmation-based treatment protocols, along with the ethics of those who do promote and perform those procedures. The world isn't going to rearrange itself because of someone's feelings of angst about not being perceived, as they perceive themselves. They better learn to cope with the fact that their feelings aren't the center of everyone's universe, and that the world owes them nothing whatsoever.
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  8.  @justsamoo3480  Considering the self-delete rates being as high as they are, even after transition-- it calls into question the efficacy and ethics of the affirmation-based treatment protocols, and those of the so-called medical and psych professionals who endorse and perform these procedures.
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  9. NOPE... The world doesn't owe you acceptance. If You want to integrate into society-- then remember that it's YOU, who needs to adapt. To insist that society must play along with your counter-culture position-- makes you seem arrogant, narcissistic, self-entitled and ridiculous. You're not the center of the universe and the world isn't going to reorganize itself to accommodate your subjective feelings, contrary to objective reality. You need to develop better coping mechanisms to deal with adversity, because not everyone is going to like you, or be accommodating.
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  10. They're narcissists
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  11. The extremely high rate of self-deletion after transition doesn't show well, for the effectiveness of the current affirmation-based treatment protocols, and brings into question the ethics of the medical and psych "professionals" who profit from engaging in this practice
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  12.  @anunwantedsoul3672  Considering the self-delete rates (even after transition) being as high as they are, the efficacy and ethics of the so-called medical and psych professionals who advocate the affirmation-based treatment protocols and perform the procedures are indeed in question
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  13. The plain truth is men cannot become women. Trans women are men with issues, pretending they're women without issues
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  14.  @maranocna2530  There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the 'cis' description entirely irrelevant and useless
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  15. Because parenting involves training your children to be able to function properly in society. Counter-culture isn't it
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  16.  @jenniferAgbebiyi  Bringing into question the ethics of the so-called medical and Psych professionals who support this ridiculous affirmation based treatment protocols.
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  17.  @group555_  Evidence???? The self-deletion rates after the procedure, doesn't show well for the effectiveness of affirmation based treatment protocols, and calls into question the ethics of the medical and psych "professionals" who facilitate those procedures.
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  18. "Success" rates??? The self delete rates are higher today-- after the implementation of affirmation treatment, than they were in the past, and remain WAY higher than the general population. You consider that a net win in the success category?
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  19.  @CarsonBobarson  They already have the same rights as everyone else. Make no mistake... The same people who are demanding that you accept and tolerate their way of life-- passionately hate you for yours, and are relentlessly seeking to destroy it
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  20. Their entire ideological, cult narrative is incoherent
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  21. The self-deletion rates after the procedure, doesn't show well for the effectiveness of affirmation based treatment protocols, and calls into question the ethics of the medical and psych "professionals" who facilitate those procedures.
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  22. The world doesn't owe you acceptance. If You want to integrate into society-- then remember that it's YOU, who needs to adapt. To insist that society must play along with your counter-culture position-- makes you seem arrogant, narcissistic, self-entitled and ridiculous. You're not the center of the universe and the world isn't going to reorganize itself to accommodate your subjective feelings, contrary to objective reality. You need to develop better coping mechanisms to deal with adversity, because not everyone is going to like you, or be accommodating.
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  23.  @MuffinEnjoyer  No, not even close. Women, (ALL of them) are born female
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  24.  @seeyouallintherapy  Gender dysphoria is a distressing condition. We have known for a long time that it is associated with other psychiatric disorders such as depression, and increased rate of self-delete attempts. The surgery and medical treatment is not perfect. It is thus not surprising that this group of patients will continue to suffer from stress-related psychiatric disorders. There might be lingering professional and relational problems. It is also possible (but unproven) that gender dysphoria is somehow etiologically related to depression. In that case, fixing the first with a cure would not automatically fix the latter.
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  25. The fact that the self-delete rates today are higher than they were prior to the implementation of affirmation-based treatment, and even after transition-- are nearly 40% higher than the general population, doesn't illustrate efficacious results, and on that basis I question the claims of the course of treatment being efficacious, as well as the ethics of those who endorse and perform those procedures.  The entire trans-activist ideological narrative is incoherent and falls into the realm of science-fiction, and pseudo-science-- and doesn't rise to the level of actual science If 4 out of 10 parachutes fail, smart people wouldn't go skydiving, and it wouldn't be a surprise if those that did, went splat. People with psych issues, so severe that they contemplate and attempt to self-delete-- aren't exactly well-balanced people, by default.
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  26. Sex and gender are synonymous. Gender roles however, are social constructs referring to the roles of males and females in society and way too many conflate sex/gender with gender roles as though they're synonymous-- and they are not
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  27.  @KAnon-sl2lv  Why do you believe that? It's demonstrably false. Both terms sex and gender originate from the Latin words Genus (meaning "Begin", "Birth", "Kind", "Race", "Gender") and sexus (meaning "sex", "Division", "Gender") The only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”.
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  28. Total narcissists
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  29.  @Maksie0  gr00mer
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  30. Is it though? I had a paranoid schizophrenic tell me that aliens are in direct contact with him and the other true heroes on the planet. Also that they communicate through fruit. I just nodded. Affirmation treatment protocols suggest that their delusion should've been affirmed as valid. Make it make sense
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  31.  @Maksie0  Why not let kids buy cigarettes, alcohol, and guns? Why not let kids decide whether they need to go to school? Why not let kids decide on if they need any food other than Reese's and Oreos?
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  32.  @sarah.phillipa854  The stats on the self-delete rates are available and they show the self delete rates of trans people WAY higher than the general population. Happy, well-adjusted people don't tend to do that. Take your time to process reality
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  33. Not surprising of people w/ psych issues, to come to illogical and irrational conclusions.
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  34. They're arrogant, narcissists. That's what they do
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  35.  @vintereventyr_  Now, go study the self delete rates compared to the general population and compared to the numbers in the past prior to the implementation of affirmation-based treatment. It's STILL WAY higher, showing a net negative in terms of efficacy and as such isn't justifiable at all
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  36. There are no non-binary humans. To believe we as individuals can have 100% control over our identity in society, what we are seen as by others, in interaction with, and in relation to, society/the world/physical existence is a fool's errand, it is a delusional understanding of reality and existence.
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  37. Their affirmation-based treatment recommendations, by the so-called professionals, were wrong and thoroughly and woefully insufficient.
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  38. About 40% of trans people self-delete, begging the questioning of the efficacy and ethics of the so-called-medical and psych professionals who advocate, prescribe and perform these procedures
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  39.  @wilp0000  The self-deletion rates after the procedure, doesn't show well for the effectiveness of affirmation based treatment protocols, and calls into question the ethics of the medical and psych "professionals" who facilitate those procedures.
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  40.  @robo_t  Not even close. Being what you are doesn't require a diagnosis, treatment nor a costume change
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  41. Because they're M0r0ns
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  42.  @lordwind9745  Your capacity for analysis, logic and reason seems stunted
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  43.  @lordwind9745  Yes... There are no trans humans. All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, preference, fetish, a subjective gender identity claim, nor a costume. A dude in a dress, claiming to be a woman is still a dude in a dress. Think deeper thoughts
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  44.  @lordwind9745  What??? When men vote to eliminate women's rights by insisting they themselves are women, and that women need to just be quiet and take it, -- It looks like the ultimate display of misogyny. Do you think women's showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, restrooms, sports leagues/teams, or prisons are designated as such based on a subjective gender identity claim, or perhaps it's based on biology? C'mon dude
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  45. About 40% of trans people self-delete even after transition, and studies show that approximately 80% have attempted self-deletion at some time in their life-- begging the questioning of the efficacy and ethics of the so-called-medical and psych professionals who advocate, prescribe and perform these procedures
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  46.  @Charli-o1p  To learn what the cult group think narratives are. I had a paranoid schizophrenic tell me that aliens are in direct contact with him and the other true heroes on the planet. Also that they communicate through fruit. I just nodded. Affirmation treatment protocols suggest that their delusion should've been affirmed as valid. Make it make sense
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  47.  @euphka7687  Almost???
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  48.  @NatalieÅrnorienne  I had a paranoid schizophrenic tell me that aliens are in direct contact with him and the other true heroes on the planet. Also that they communicate through fruit. I just nodded. Affirmation treatment protocols suggest that their delusion should've been affirmed as valid. Make it make sense
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  49.  @Quizoid  Looks like you're conflating gender and gender roles with personality traits and temperament.
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  50.  @pawlaovicto7824  Well, that didn't answer the question. The problem with your virtue signaling, is the absence of any actual virtue.
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  51. There is really no such thing as a 'normal' trans youth experience, is there?? There are males (boys/men), and females (girls/women) that's it. A woman isn't a social construct or a costume. Too many conflate personality (There are a ton of different personality traits-- NONE are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender (There are 2 male/female) and gender roles (They vary from culture to culture, society to society and internationally-- and those have been long-established)
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  52. It's the new trendy goth 2.0
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  53.  @theendisthebeginningistheend  That is in fact, Not- what they're doing because that doesn't involve transitioning into a mutilated body, to be as they are. In fact, to be as they are-- involves nothing whatsoever
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  54. They self delete rate of the trans community dwarfs that of the general population. Happy people don't tend to self delete. Just sayin... Sex/Gender= 2 (Male, Female) Personality traits and temperament = Many (None are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, tomboys) Gender Roles (Vary from culture to culture, and country to country) ALL based around the various social aspects of being male or female, respectively in those various cultures, societies and countries
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  55.  @HootyASMR  What easily understood is that there are only males and females, and that biological category is fixed and permanent. Furthermore... Men cannot become women and vice versa. Trans women are men with issues, pretending they're women without issues
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  56.  @blue.jay.s  Men cannot become women regardless of their feelings to the contrary, and women cannot become men-- regardless of their feelings to the contrary. If your identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality and then must participate in your LARP and cosplay, then too bad, so sad-- that identity is a figment of your imagination and is in no way valid in objective reality. Cope Harder
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  57.  @Danikalopez-sl4fm  stfu gr00mer. Men cannot become women regardless of their feelings to the contrary, and women cannot become men-- regardless of their feelings to the contrary. If your identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality and then must participate in your LARP and cosplay, then too bad, so sad-- that identity is a figment of your imagination and is in no way valid in objective reality. Cope Harder
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  58. Quit conflating personality with gender and gender roles-- as though they're synonymous. They're Not
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  59. 🎯
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  60. They know so much-- that just isn't so
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  61.  @bareq99  It has nothing to do with gender. Get a clue
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  62. It was actually predictable
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  63.  @dwaffeine7995  Has reading comprehension always been a challenge for you?
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  64.  @Chloeprettyoccasionally  You fail to persuade. Do Better
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  65.  @hauntedvfxx  trans people's problems aren't the problems of the rest of the world. Trans women are men with issues, pretending they're women without issues.
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  66.  @rowan6021  Nah, societies are based in reality, unlike the trans-activists cult narratives. There's no fear in recognizing that someone is not that which they present themselves. That's just being observant. That sound you're hearing is the sound of males and females everywhere rejecting the incoherent trans, cult ideology for the madness that it is.
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  67. Men cannot become women. As it turns out,there's a prerequisite to becoming a woman, and that being born female and growing into maturity. Now you know
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  68.  @StormscapeX  And surgery does nothing to alleviate the reality that people will recognize those who present as something they're not, because they're observant and live in an objective reality. If your identity requires that everyone in society affirm your sense of self, contrary to objective reality, and their participation in your LARP or cosplay is required to massage your feelings, then you better develop some better coping mechanisms to deal with the fact that the world doesn't owe you anything, and the vast majority of people reject the trans-activist ideological narrative, and that isn't going to change-- So-- considering that they're more accepted now than at any other time in history, yet continue to have a self-delete rate significantly higher than the general population-- the efficacy of a surgical approach doesn't appear to be the efficacious solution which curbs that... and moving forward with the notion that if only, everyone would just play along for their sake-- then I predict you're going to be severely disappointed. The world isn't going to reorganize itself for your benefit, and to suggest it ought to-- is the height of arrogance and self-entitlement. You better learn to cope much harder
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  69. The island of Dr. Moreau
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  70.  @KAnon-sl2lv  Way too many conflate "Gender/Sex" (There are only 2 male/female... that's it) with "Gender roles" (Social constructs referring to the roles of males and females in society) and then with "personality traits and temperament" (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive -- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) as though they're synonymous-- and they aren't, which causes further confusion.
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  71. Men cannot become women regardless of their feelings to the contrary, and women cannot become men-- regardless of their feelings to the contrary. If your identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality and then must participate in your LARP and cosplay, then too bad, so sad-- that identity is a figment of your imagination, and is in no way valid in objective reality. Cope Harder
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  72.  @glassesyouneed6876  What are you talking about? Of course, they're asking for not only acceptance, but participation with their LARP and cosplay by demanding to control the speech of others to use their preferred pronouns or in some countries face h8 speech crime prosecution. Get Real
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  73. Not if they self-delete 1st, and the rate of self deletes are WAY higher than the general population--
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  74.  @bareq99  Quit conflating personality with gender. They're not synonymous
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  75.  @firetube8288  Nonsense! 90% desist and end up choosing a gay lifestyle.
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  76.  @firetube8288  No, my numbers are verifiable by a peer reviewed medical study. This is directly from the writer and tenured member at WPATH, Ken Zucker: Not to mention the leaked wpath files showing doctors themselves do not think these kids are mentally mature enough to consent to the surgeries. ** Kenneth Zucker et Al 2021: "88 percent of trans women desisted after 20 years. 93% resorted to homosexuality"
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  77. Because men have a less agreeable temperament than women do, on average
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  78. No, there are both physical and temperamental differences between males and females. They're not interchangeable widgets. Why do you believe that? It's demonstrably false. Both terms sex and gender originate from the Latin words Genus (meaning "Begin", "Birth", "Kind", "Race", "Gender") and sexus (meaning "sex", "Division", "Gender") The only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex (There are only 2 male/female) with 'Gender Roles' (Social construct which refers to the roles of males and females in society) and again with Personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys)-- as though they're synonymous, and they are Not. All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, persona or a costume
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  79. The rate of self deletion, even after surgery-- suggests otherwise
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  80. Yes... It's pseudo-science and science-fiction
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  81.  @Maksie0  Cope and seethe. There are males and females... That's it! Segments of each present with various physical and psych disorders-- some with BOTH, and NONE make it possible for a male to become a female or a female to become a male. Take your time to process reality, for a change
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  82.  @maranocna2530  They use the stuff that is used to chemically castrate sex offenders
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  83.  @Maksie0  Activist gr00mer... gfy
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  84.  @maranocna2530  Pull your head out of the sand and have a look around. Ask Budweiser and Target... That sound is the sound of men and women everywhere rejecting this intellectually vacant and morally repugnant trans-activist ideology. Cope Harder
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  85.  @lordwind9745  When men vote to eliminate women's rights by insisting they themselves are women, and that women need to just be quiet and take it, -- It looks like the ultimate display of misogyny. Do you think women's showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, restrooms, sports leagues/teams, or prisons are designated as such based on a subjective gender identity claim, or perhaps it's based on biology? Think deeper thoughts
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  86. They're hedonists embracing their degeneracy
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  87.  @firetube8288  Transphobe is a toothless cult term used to shut down speech, and seems to be used by you, for what the rest of the world refers to as common sense. When men vote to eliminate women's rights by insisting they themselves are women, and that women need to just be quiet and take it, -- It looks like the ultimate display of misogyny. Do you think women's showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, restrooms, sports leagues/teams, or prisons are designated as such based on a subjective gender identity claim, or perhaps it's based on biology?
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  88.  @mood1676  You believe that huh? I had a paranoid schizophrenic tell me that aliens are in direct contact with him and the other true heroes on the planet. Also that they communicate through fruit. I just nodded. Affirmation treatment protocols suggest that their delusion should've been affirmed as valid. Make it make sense
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  89. They're self-loathing, and misery loves company. Study title: “Risk of Su~c~de and Self-H@rm Following Gender-Affirmation Surgery” Conclusions from the studies: "Individuals who underwent gender-affirming surgery had a 12-fold higher su~ci~de attempt risk, than those who did not" “Gender-affirming surgery is significantly associated with elevated su~c~de attempt risks, underlining the necessity for comprehensive post-procedure psychiatric support.”
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  90.  @HootyASMR  They are just not the sex they present as, and wish they could be. They're still valid people. Trans women are men with issues, pretending to be women without issues
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  91. Intersex is a physical phenomenon, while trans is a psych issue. Trans women are MEN with issues, pretending that they're women without issues
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  92.  @lornam1142  The self-deletion rates, even after transition, suggest otherwise-- for a large portion of those to whom you're referring, and the de-transitioner's regrets highlight some interesting counter arguments re: the efficacy of affirmation-based treatment protocols
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  93.  @lornam1142  Yes, it is and a cursory bit of research will validate what I said.
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  94.  @lornam1142  Gender dysphoria is a distressing condition. We have known for a long time that it is associated with other psychiatric disorders such as depression, and increased rate of self-delete attempts. The surgery and medical treatment is not perfect. It is thus not surprising that this group of patients will continue to suffer from stress-related psychiatric disorders. There might be lingering professional and relational problems. It is also possible (but unproven) that gender dysphoria is somehow etiologically related to depression. In that case, fixing the first with a cure would not automatically fix the latter.
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  95. The entire trans-activist, cult narrative is pure incoherent nonsense from start to finish
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  96. The current self delete rate, being so much higher than it was in the past, prior to implementing affirmation-based treatment protocols, at a time when they're more accepted than ever before-- doesn't justify endorsing affirmation treatment as efficacious in anyway whatsoever
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  97.  @Miss.girl09  How do you figure??? The 40% self delete rate, even after transition seems like the obvious answer, as to how and why affirmation-based treatment protocols are woefully insufficient-- BUT then, there's also Kenneth Zucker et Al 2021 (Watched trans women, diagnosed, and after 20 years-- almost 90% desisted) They're conflating gender and gender roles with personality traits as though they're synonymous-- and they just aren't
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  98.  @Cantooni  Stop gaslighting. The self-delete rates even after transition, just don't justify mutilating young people
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  99. Gender dysphoria is a distressing condition. We have known for a long time that it is associated with other psychiatric disorders such as depression, and increased rate of self-delete attempts. The surgery and medical treatment is not perfect. It is thus not surprising that this group of patients will continue to suffer from stress-related psychiatric disorders. There might be lingering professional and relational problems. It is also possible (but unproven) that gender dysphoria is somehow etiologically related to depression. In that case, fixing the first with a cure would not automatically fix the latter.
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  100.  @xxkankala1671  Why?
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  101. Way too many conflate gender (There are only 2) with gender roles and personality traits as though they're synonymous-- and they aren't, which causes them even more confusion than they already have
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  102. Yes, make shame great again
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  103. Expecting intellectual integrity from confused people, isn't logical
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  104. Women's body autonomy is in their control, when they choose to risk pregnancy or not... Is it not so? What are you talking about?
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  105.  @madelynwilliams3570  The rate of self-deletion, at the very least-- being as high as it is, (even after transition) brings into question not only the efficacy of affirmation-based treatment protocols, but also the ethics of the so-called professionals who endorse and perform these procedures
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  106. Only pseudo-science and science fiction... They say gender identity and sex are separate, but haven't been able to justify encroaching on spaces designated segregated based on sex, as an entitlement. Not even close They also haven't come close yet, to being able to justify the expectation that just because they present and identify in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must treat them as though they're the opposite sex. It's absurd
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  107.  @nathanonofre7349  But all of the trans activists who publicize their incoherent ideological narratives-- DO
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  108. Because that doesn't give them the coping mechanisms to deal with the adversity in life that's inevitable. Would you affirm an anorexic's desire to lose more weight? I would hope not
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  109. "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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  110.  @nottheaveragecomment  WRONG! They're practitioners, not researchers
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  111. To believe individuals can have 100% control over their identity in society, how they are seen by others, in interaction with, and in relation to, society/the world/physical existence is a fool's errand. It is a delusional understanding of reality and existence.
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  112. The self termination rates are, nonetheless-- still MUCH higher than the general population, indicating an underlying issue that doesn't appear to be resolved with affirmation based treatment
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  113.  @ksmith1728  The question is, what is the correlation with the much higher rates of self deletes among the entire trans community, compared to the general population, that clearly-- affirmation-based treatment protocols proves to be woefully insufficient?
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  114.  @monicadaniels784  There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the use of 'cis' totally irrelevant and useless. Your feelings about wishing you were the opposite sex, doesn't make you the opposite sex.
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  115. I presume there's more than 1 issue going on there. These dudes, who present as women are still males/men.
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  116.  @Maksie0  Because-- The 40% self delete rate, even after transition seems like the obvious answer, as to how and why affirmation-based treatment protocols are woefully insufficient-- BUT then, there's also Kenneth Zucker et Al 2021 (Watched trans women, diagnosed, and after 20 years-- almost 90% desisted) Quit conflating gender and gender roles with personality traits, as though they're synonymous-- They just aren't
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  117.  @smhmyhead9184  Like extreme LARP and cosplay-- they don't actually make them the opposite sex
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  118. They're not designed to.
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  119. The fact that the self-delete rates today are higher than they were prior to the implementation of affirmation-based treatment, and even after transition-- are nearly 40% higher than the general population, doesn't illustrate efficacious results, and on that basis I question the claims of the course of treatment being efficacious, as well as the ethics of those who endorse and perform those procedures. The entire trans-activist ideological narrative is incoherent and falls into the realm of science-fiction, and pseudo-science-- and doesn't rise to the level of actual science If 4 out of 10 parachutes fail, smart people wouldn't go skydiving, and it wouldn't be a surprise if those that did, went splat. People with psych issues, so severe that they contemplate and attempt to self-delete-- aren't exactly well-balanced people, by default.
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  120. The kind that disconnects you from reality
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  121.  @Maksie0  To believe individuals can have 100% control over their identity in society, what and/or how we are seen as by others, in interaction with, and in relation to, society/the world/physical existence is a fool's errand, and it is a delusional understanding of reality and existence.
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  122. No, you don't affirm a delusion as though it's based in objective reality. Would you affirm an anorexic child's desire to lose more weight? I would hope not.
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  123. How others process adversity, isn't in your control. To believe we as individuals can have 100% control over our identity in society, what and how we are seen as by others, in interaction with, and in relation to, society/the world/physical existence is a fool's errand, it is a delusional understanding of reality and existence.
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  124.  @wadanohara  The self-deletion rates after the procedure, doesn't show well for the effectiveness of affirmation based treatment protocols, and calls into question the ethics of the medical and psych "professionals" who facilitate those procedures.
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  125.  @pbufh  Requiring a surgical solution to a psych issue is the point, illustrating just how incoherent the trans-activist ideological narrative is
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  126. If you have difficulty with the fact that humans are mammals, are male or female, respectively-- and that one cannot become the other, then you likely have bigger problems and will continue to, until you get that sorted out 1st
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  127. Well, just Cope Harder... Men cannot become women regardless of their feelings to the contrary, and women cannot become men-- regardless of their feelings to the contrary. If your identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality and then must participate in your LARP and cosplay, then too bad, so sad-- that identity is a figment of your imagination and is in no way valid in objective reality. Take your time to process reality
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  128. Look up the self delete rates compared to the general population. Not indicative of reasonable, sound minds being engaged regarding the efficacy of affirmation-based treatment protocols.
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  129.  @amandavieira2543  The rates of self-deletion after transition, and the other comorbidities they seem to share in common-- suggests the affirmation based treatment protocols as a "necessity" is unjustified
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  130. These studies don't... They highlight the inadequacy of affirmation-based treatment protocols, calling into question the claims of efficacy, as I see it. Study title: “Risk of Su~c~de and Self-H@rm Following Gender-Affirmation Surgery” Conclusions from the studies: "Individuals who underwent gender-affirming surgery had a 12-fold higher su~ci~de attempt risk, than those who did not" “Gender-affirming surgery is significantly associated with elevated su~c~de attempt risks, underlining the necessity for comprehensive post-procedure psychiatric support.”
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  131.  @camc12345  Make no mistake-- the vast majority reject the trans-activist ideological narrative, and aren't interested in participating in your LARP and cosplay as though it's based in objective reality
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  132.  @group555_  The self-deletion rates after the procedure, doesn't show well for the effectiveness of affirmation based treatment protocols, and calls into question the ethics of the medical and psych "professionals" who facilitate those procedures.
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  133.  @group555_  Evidence??? Data indicate that 82% of transgender individuals have considered deleting themselves and 40% have attempted it, with the highest rate being among transgender youth
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  134.  @Maksie0  The Post conveyed criticisms alleged about two of those: “One study of Dutch children, in particular, assumed that subjects had ‘desisted’ purely because they stopped showing up to a gender identity clinic.” Although unnamed, the claim appears to be referring to Steensma et al. (2013), which followed up on 127 transgender kids. Of them: 47 said they were still transgender; 56 said they were no longer transgender (46 said so directly, 6 said so via their parents, and 4 more said so despite not participating in other aspects of the study); and 24 did not respond to the invitation to participate in the study or could not be located. Because all the medical services for transition are free in the Netherlands and because there is only one clinic providing those services, the researchers were able to check that none of the 24 had actually transitioned despite having the opportunity to do so. Steensma therefore reported that (80/127 =) 63% of the cases desisted. The alleged criticism is that one should not assume that the 24 who did not respond or could not be found were desisters. Regardless of whether one agrees with that, the irrelevance of claim is clearly seen simply by taking it to its own conclusion: When one excludes these 24, one simply finds a desistance rate of (56/103 =) 54% instead of 63%. That is, although numerically lower, it nonetheless supports the very same conclusion as before. The majority of kids cease to feel transgender when they get older.
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  135.  @Danikalopez-sl4fm  Nope, not even close
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  136. Surgery and affirmation-based treatment protocols do nothing to alleviate the reality that people will recognize those who present as something they're not, because they're observant and live in an objective reality. If your identity requires that everyone in society affirm your sense of self, contrary to objective reality, and their participation in your LARP or cosplay is required to massage your feelings, then you better develop some better coping mechanisms to deal with the fact that the world doesn't owe you anything, and the vast majority of people reject the trans-activist ideological narrative, and that isn't going to change-- So-- considering that they're more accepted now than at any other time in history, yet continue to have a self-delete rate significantly higher than the general population-- the efficacy of a surgical approach doesn't appear to be the efficacious solution which curbs that... and moving forward with the notion that if only, everyone would just play along for their sake-- then I predict you're going to be severely disappointed. The world isn't going to reorganize itself for your benefit, and to suggest it ought to-- is the height of arrogance and self-entitlement. You better learn to cope much harder
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  137. YOU gotta remember, trans women are MEN with issues pretending that they're women without issues. Not exactly the sort I'd recommend taking advice from, for what are to me, obvious reasons
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  138. Should do doctors pro and con re: the efficacy and the ethics of affirmation-based treatment protocols, considering the self-delete rates and de-transitioner's regrets
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  139. Ya, the entire cult, trans-activist ideological narrative is thoroughly incoherent nonsense from start to finish
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  140.  jtjtmitr  Nope, not even close. As it turns out-- women (ALL of them) are born female.
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  141.  @firetube8288  Study title: “Risk of Su~c~de and Self-H@rm Following Gender-Affirmation Surgery” Conclusions from the studies: "Individuals who underwent gender-affirming surgery had a 12-fold higher su~ci~de attempt risk, than those who did not" “Gender-affirming surgery is significantly associated with elevated su~c~de attempt risks, underlining the necessity for comprehensive post-procedure psychiatric support.”
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  142.  @blue.jay.s  LOL... Men cannot become women regardless of their feelings to the contrary, and women cannot become men-- regardless of their feelings to the contrary. If your identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality and then must participate in your LARP and cosplay, then too bad, so sad-- that identity is a figment of your imagination and is in no way valid in objective reality. Cope Harder
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  143. I had a paranoid schizophrenic tell me that aliens are in direct contact with him and the other true heroes on the planet. Also that they communicate through fruit. I just nodded. Affirmation treatment protocols suggest that their delusion should've been affirmed as valid. Make it make sense
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  144. It's the NEW trendy goth 2.0 for these Gen Z kids.
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  145.  @Maksie0  They lower your IQ. Which explains something about your commentary
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  146.  @LooseCannonShannon777  They are a tiny fraction of the population. Men cannot become women regardless of their feelings to the contrary, and women cannot become men-- regardless of their feelings to the contrary. If their identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality and then must participate in their LARP and cosplay, then too bad, so sad-- that identity is merely a figment of their imagination, and is in no way valid in objective reality.
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  147. They're activist, agent provocateurs. Nothing more
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  148. WRONG. They say gender identity and sex are separate, but haven't been able to justify encroaching on spaces designated segregated based on sex, as an entitlement. Not even close They also haven't come close yet, to being able to justify the expectation that just because they present and identify in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must treat them as though they're the opposite sex. It's absurd
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  149. Unintentionally? HAHA, they know EXACTLY what they're doing akin to Dr. Frankenstein trying to justify creating monsters
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  150.  @xshinigamix9661  Men cannot become women regardless of their feelings to the contrary, and women cannot become men-- regardless of their feelings to the contrary. If your identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality and then must participate in your LARP and cosplay, then too bad, so sad-- that identity is a figment of your imagination and is in no way valid in objective reality. Cope Harder, and take your time to process reality
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  151. The self-deletion rates after the procedure, doesn't show well for the effectiveness of affirmation based treatment protocols, and calls into question the ethics of the medical and psych "professionals" who facilitate those procedures.
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  152. Why let the children run the home? Be a parent and tell them, No. You're in charge of purchasing their wardrobe, and shutting down the nonsense with reason, rather than fostering and affirming a phoney reality
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  153.  @Maksie0  Bro, if your intellectual capacity were converted into electricity, you couldn't even power a toaster to lightly toast a piece of bread
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  154.  @bigbaraman555  Just observant of objective reality. Trans women are men with issues, pretending that they're women without issues
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  155. They NEVER stood for inclusion and acceptance for all
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  156. They inappropriately conflate personality traits and temperament with gender. Then, they conflate gender with gender roles. Then, they conflate gender with s3xu@l preference. Then, they conflate men with women, males with females, fact with fiction and science with science-fiction and pseudo-science.
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  157. I had a paranoid schizophrenic tell me that aliens are in direct contact with him and the other true heroes on the planet. Also that they communicate through fruit. I just nodded. Affirmation treatment protocols suggest that their delusion should've been affirmed as valid. Make it make sense
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  158.  @bareq99  Trans women are men with issues, pretending they're women without issues.
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  159.  @CS-iq4xn  No, I'm not misconstruing or conflating anything. Men cannot become women regardless of their feelings to the contrary, and women cannot become men-- regardless of their feelings to the contrary. If your identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality and then must participate in your LARP and cosplay, then too bad, so sad-- that identity is a figment of your imagination and is in no way valid in objective reality. Cope Harder
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  160.  @seeyouallintherapy  Gender refers to the sex observed and assigned at birth, and relates to the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Quit conflating gender with personality. They're not synonymous. A woman isn't a social construct, a costume, or a feeling.
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