Comments by "Z P" (@zachman5150) on "Trans vs Conservative Men: Is Masculinity Disappearing in America? | Middle Ground" video.
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If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? It's incoherent -- or that only the individual themselves can determine their gender identity-- if it's a social construct, how does that work?? Again, It's incoherent
If it were true, that gender is a social construct, fluid, and malleable and not biological-- why the need to transition biologically, or play dress up, and change their physical appearance? Again, incoherent
They're already, who they are to themselves, and the proclivity to alter their biology, suggests that gender is NOT separate from biology. Why the desire to change if gender is merely a social construct? Again, it's incoherent
No, It's XX, XY, Birth defect or evidence that a psych evaluation and treatment be considered, and btw-- the exceptions to the rules do not invalidate the rules. They validate them, hence being the exceptions
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@donut_box3553 Perhaps they're merely an acquaintance... I don't know.
Either way, You don't get to choose the one's that others use, when speaking about you to someone else.
Free lesson to the grammatically challenged regarding pronouns and how they're utilized:
1st person pronouns are grouped into 5 categories: Subject pronouns 1st person "I", Object pronouns 1st person "Me", possessive adjectives 1st person "My", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Mine", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Myself"
2nd person: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourself"
3rd person (Male): Subject pronouns 3rd person "He", Object pronouns 3rd person "Him", possessive adjectives 3rd person "His", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "His", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Himself"
3rd person (Female): Subject pronouns 3rd person "She", Object pronouns 3rd person "Her", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Her", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Hers", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Herself"
3rd Thing: Subject pronouns 3rd thing "It", Object pronouns 3rd thing "It", possessive adjectives 3rd thing "Its", Possessive pronouns 3rd thing "Not Used", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd thing "Itself"
1st person plural: Subject pronouns "We", Object pronouns 1st person "Us", possessive adjectives 1st person "Our", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Ours", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Ourselves"
2nd person plural: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourselves"
3rd person and (thing) plural: Subject pronouns "They", Object pronouns "Them", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Their", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Theirs", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Themselves".
Now stop embarrassing yourself.
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Only when speaking for yourself -- and then your choices are limited to I, Me, My-- unless you're talking about yourself in the 3rd person, which is pretty weird.
You should get a refund from your English grammar teachers.
You don't get to choose the one's that others use, when speaking about you to someone else.
1st person pronouns are grouped into 5 categories: Subject pronouns 1st person "I", Object pronouns 1st person "Me", possessive adjectives 1st person "My", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Mine", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Myself"
2nd person: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourself"
3rd person (Male): Subject pronouns 3rd person "He", Object pronouns 3rd person "Him", possessive adjectives 3rd person "His", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "His", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Himself"
3rd person (Female): Subject pronouns 3rd person "She", Object pronouns 3rd person "Her", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Her", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Hers", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Herself"
3rd Thing: Subject pronouns 3rd thing "It", Object pronouns 3rd thing "It", possessive adjectives 3rd thing "Its", Possessive pronouns 3rd thing "Not Used", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd thing "Itself"
1st person plural: Subject pronouns "We", Object pronouns 1st person "Us", possessive adjectives 1st person "Our", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Ours", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Ourselves"
2nd person plural: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourselves"
3rd person and (thing) plural: Subject pronouns "They", Object pronouns "Them", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Their", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Theirs", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Themselves".
Now stop embarrassing yourself.
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@jaybones2811 I understand the narrative. I just recognize it as incoherent. They suffer high anxiety when facing having to select the appropriate restroom, while whinging about a white, male--dominated patriarchy, at the root of a gender pay gap, while insisting that gender is fluid. Ya, it's ridiculous
The ridiculous notion that the world needs to accept those who can't accept themselves-- as they are, but rather must accept them as their delusional sense of self would dictate-- is ludicrous.
You can chop off your dog's balls, but he's still a male dog. You can shove a chicken feather in your butt, and you're still not a chicken, no matter how much you think you identify as one-- as if you had a frame of reference in the first place-- and you do not.
It's XX, XY, Birth Defect or evidence that a psych evaluation and treatment commence immediately-- That's It. Period, FULL Stop
Alone in the shower alone, they know they're a guy
Found damaged and unconscious in a wreck, the EMT's know he's a guy
Dead on a slab, the Coroner knows he's a guy
Archaeologists finding his bones and DNA, Knows he's a guy. He's a guy pretending to be a girl.
Don't be a science denier... Just sayin
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Booga Ooga The ridiculous notion that the world needs to accept those who can't accept themselves-- as they are, but rather must accept them as their delusional sense of self would dictate-- is ludicrous.
You can chop off your dog's balls, but he's still a male dog. You can shove a chicken feather in your butt, and you're still not a chicken, no matter how much you think you identify as one-- as if you had a frame of reference in the first place-- and you do not.
It's XX, XY, Birth Defect or evidence that a psych evaluation and treatment commence immediately-- That's It. Period, FULL Stop
Alone in the shower alone, they know they're a guy
Found damaged and unconscious in a wreck, the EMT's know he's a guy
Dead on a slab, the Coroner knows he's a guy
Archaeologists finding his bones and DNA, Knows he's a guy. He's a guy pretending to be a girl.
Don't be a science denier... Just sayin
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@crisisdude7439 Well, where else would they process emotions, but in their head?
Men tend to exercise and engage in physical activity's (MMA, Hiking, Sports, Weight training, have jobs which involve physical 'manual' labor, etc.) which are an outlet for that frustration-- repressing nothing.
Men don't prioritize that which they get overly-emotional about, in the same way that women do. That's not a flaw.
Consider that women attempt sewerslide more often than men do, though men tend to use lethal force, so succeed more often in their fewer attempts. Is that because men are more efficient or because women are less competent, and are often making an overly-emotional spectacle of herself, for attention because she's mentally unbalanced?
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@sashaboydcom Not much of a refutation, not a single direct response to any of my questions-- and the 'Because you said so' standard has been issued exactly ZERO credibility.
Look, I have no dog in this fight. You do.
You, as the minority fringe among the rest of the human population want ME, and the rest of the world, to go along with your narrative and use your subjective pronouns in defiance of reality etc...
Well, you fail to persuade, so you need to do much better.
A male cannot become a female and a female cannot become a male.
FYI-- a woman is an adult human female.
You can neuter a dog and put him in a dress, but make no mistake he's still a male dog, regardless of the surgery and elaborate disguise-- and regardless of how the dog may perceive things, that doesn't alter the fact that he's still a male dog.
Similarly, the same is true regarding the gender dysphoria situation. Their subjective feelings have no bearing on the objective fact that they are not the sex which they claim to be.
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@Maksie0 Well, there are those who claim to identify as dogs, etc... Bottom line is, a rooster is not a hen and vice versa. A male is not a female and vice versa, whether human or any other species.
The gender construct is based off the sex assigned at birth, respectively-- and the social nature of being male and female.
You, inappropriately conflate the variability in personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys) with/as gender, and it's just incorrect.
Manhood and womanhood are not merely costumes or cloaks one puts on or takes off, and one's imagination doesn't make their thoughts manifest into reality. Even if you REALLY believe it!
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@kyrstenjohnson9752 Beyond the singular "they" pronoun being correct grammatically, it's also far from a modern invention. 'They' has been used as a singular pronoun since at least the late 14th century. ex. 'They' pay their rent on time.
Like I said, you wouldn't use a pronoun like she/he when speaking directly to someone, you'd use their name.
When speaking about them-- to another, is when you would have the occasion to use the pronouns you're advocating in favor of like you're describing, however; you seem to be having difficulty with the concept. You wouldn't say, "Excuse me-- She, pass the salt", now would you? Well, maybe you would, but that's not how someone who understands how the English language works would use it.
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@OFARA The truth is the truth, regardless of one's opinion about it. You're conflating personality types with gender. I notice you didn't attempt to address my question. What's up w/ that?
If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? It's incoherent -- or that only the individual themselves can determine their gender identity-- if it's a social construct, how does that work?? Again, It's incoherent
If it were true, that gender is a social construct, fluid, and malleable and not biological-- why the need to transition biologically? Again, incoherent
They're already, who they are to themselves, and the proclivity to alter their biology, suggests that gender is NOT separate from biology. Why the desire to change if gender is merely a social construct? Again, it's incoherent
No, It's XX, XY, Birth defect or evidence that a psych evaluation and treatment be considered, and btw-- the exceptions to the rules do not invalidate the rules. They validate them, hence being the exceptions
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@mataj0to561 Critical thinking and Coherent Analysis seems to prove difficult to many.
Their view seems to go sideways with the notion that a girl, trapped in a male body, and that the male identity is immutable since birth, being the justification for transition surgery-- illustrates the notion of gender being disconnected from biology and merely a social construct, as just wrong.
If they're just playing dress up and indulging their own kink and perversions, that doesn't make them the gender that they're pretending to be. Truth
People who don't transition, are men in a dress and makeup, or women altering their appearance, and pretending to be something they are not.
People who do transition, are still their original sex-- just altered to look different. Similar to a nose job... ZERO affect on their sex or gender
IF gender is a social construct, there would be no reason to alter one's appearance, as they would simply be the gender they identify with at the moment, no matter their appearance or biology. Nope their explanation is incoherent
If gender is fluid, and not biological-- Why the need/desire/proclivity to play dress up, or more drastically use surgical alterations, etc.? Aren't they already identifying as what they are? Ya, doesn't make sense. aka it's incoherent
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Dear, women attempt it more than men do. Crazier, less competent or both? Men tend to use lethal force, so succeed more often when they do attempt it.
Historically, wars were/are started by the rulers of men and women (Kings, Pharaohs, Dictators, Sultans, Amirs, Emperors, etc.) and the people had no say about it, or being conscripted into service to fight and perish
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@josilynfilms She says, while staring into the abyss and not recognizing what it is she's looking at.
Well, to ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where as a feminist saying it's not that deep-- You'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are now-- women (in the workplace, on the sports field, in the restrooms, locker rooms, showers, and prisons).
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@culverculver922 I'm not sure who you're quoting, but it isn't me. You seem to be suffering from some sort of cognitive impairment-- possibly caused by a blunt force trauma to the head.
Doctors don’t assign gender they identify it, otherwise in a patriarchal society everyone would be male because-- apparently we’re worth more.
Foolishness for all to see.
The imagination (which you seem to be using synonymously with 'gender') doesn't transform biology, reality, or anyone's DNA-- Even if they REALLY believe it (which would illustrate that they're delusional).
Like I said, you could have a surgeon transform your appearance to look like a Klingon, but that doesn't make you a Klingon-- even if you Reeaaallllly believe it-- either.
If the chromosome doesn't have a Y, it isn't a guy. Intersex isn't another gender-- it's a birth defect and an anomaly. The exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule-- They prove the rule, hence being the exceptions
It's XX, XY, Birth Defect... That's It
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@Erik-fn7kj Science fiction, No. Political science in place of medical science, No.
Look, it's XX, XY, or Birth defect. That's it.-- Science
Having been a behavior modification specialist for many years, working with the developmentally disabled-- I realize that validating a person's delusions resulting from a mental illness isn't how you help or treat them.
I mean, you don't tell a person with schizophrenia who's insisting that the toaster is talking to them and telling them to do harm to themselves or others that they're correct, or by validating their delusional belief that they can fly, as they prepare to jump off the roof of a building, in the name of empathy.
Get Real
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@OFARA Your view seems to go sideways with the notion that a girl, trapped in a male body, and that the male identity is immutable since birth, being the justification for transition surgery-- illustrates the notion of gender being disconnected from biology and merely a social construct as just wrong.
When someone's brain and biology aren't 'concordant', a psych evaluation is highly recommended. If they're just playing dress up and indulging their own kink and perversions, that doesn't make them the gender that they're pretending to be. Truth
People who don't transition, are men in a dress and makeup, or women altering their appearance, and pretending to be something they are not.
People who do transition, are still their original sex-- just altered to look different. Similar to a nose job... ZERO affect on their sex or gender
IF gender is a social construct, there would be no reason to alter one's appearance, as they would simply be the gender they identify with at the moment, no matter their appearance or biology. Nope your explanation is incoherent
If gender is fluid, and not biological-- Why the need/desire/proclivity to play dress up, or more drastically use surgical alterations, etc.? Aren't they already identifying as what they are? Ya, doesn't make sense. Your explanation pretty much destroys the narrative that the trans-community falls under the same umbrella though aka incoherent.
The ridiculous notion that the world needs to accept those who can't accept themselves-- as they are, but rather must accept them as their delusional sense of self would dictate-- is ludicrous.
It's XX, XY, Birth Defect or evidence that a psych evaluation and treatment commence immediately-- That's It. Period, FULL Stop
Alone in the shower alone, they know they're a guy
Found damaged and unconscious in a wreck, the EMT's know he's a guy
Dead on a slab, the Coroner knows he's a guy
Archaeologists finding his bones and DNA, Knows he's a guy.
He's a guy pretending to be a girl, or vice versa-- a girl pretending to be a guy, or just openly perverted. Be honest about it
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@CreoleWolf You wrote, "What is anti-woman? Being trans or being androgynous? Because I can at least tell you from my end of it, us tomboys just want to do our thing. We aren't asking anything from anyone. All we are asking is for people to leave us alone. Again, we still identify as being women and acknowledge that we are women. We just aren't "feminine" and don't want to be told what to wear, how we are supposed to act, or what interests we are allowed to have."
The ideology that says trans-women are women-- is anti-women. A woman is an adult, female, human.
I already pointed out that variability in personality traits and temperament are not gender exclusive, but they're conflating it with gender-- as if they were synonymous, and they are not.
The trans-ideology suggests on one hand that gender is a social-construct, not connected to biology, and is fluid.
On the other hand, it claims that a girl who says she's a boy, trapped in a girl's body is in fact a boy, and has an immutable male identity, as justification for transition surgery-- and Both can't be true. Those two positions are at odds with each other. It's incoherent.
Like I said, Best of luck to all the feminists who go along with that incoherent ideology, because in the not too distant dystopian future-- you'll be oppressed by men- who will say they're women.
You, asking what is anti-woman indicates that you don't even see it coming either.
I wish you well
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@imnotnotgameiacmaniac5327 They are Questions, and NO ONE has attempted to address them. Why not? Too Real? Exposes the idiocy?
If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? It's incoherent -- or that only the individual themselves can determine their gender identity-- if it's a social construct, how does that work?? Again, It's incoherent
If it were true, that gender is a social construct, fluid, and malleable and not biological-- why the need to transition biologically? Again, incoherent
They're already, who they are to themselves, and the proclivity to alter their biology, suggests that gender is NOT separate from biology. Why the desire to change if gender is merely a social construct? Again, it's incoherent
No, It's XX, XY, Birth defect or evidence that a psych evaluation and treatment be considered, and btw-- the exceptions to the rules do not invalidate the rules. They validate them, hence being the exceptions
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@11235Aodh So, Blacks should all be in Africa is your position? WOW
The Native Americans who slaughtered each other in rituals and wars. C'mon
How far back do you want to go? Adam? Noah? Ancient cultures came to possess their land by way of conquest.
The left counts on the ignorance of the sheep. That being said, no one alive today is responsible for the actions of people 500 years ago. Everyone born from those ancestors are here because of circumstance. Even the Native Americans, that we've recently had confirmed through DNA testing-- are of European, and Asian decent.
The Disgruntled Millennial Podcast writes, “What's amazing to me is the total ignoring of what the Spaniards did to the Aztecs. Now, all of a sudden the descendants of those same Spaniards are being defended as indigenous peoples. WTF???”
Mestizos (90% of the Mexican population) are a mix of white Spanish & Native blood. Mexicans also speak a European language & most practice a eastern Occidental religion that is based in a white, European capitol. Mexico is the result of European conquest. Cortez's Spaniards overthrew the bloodthirsty Aztec Empire that annually declared "Flower" Wars against their subjugated state Tlaxcala & murdered/sacrificed thousands of Tlaxcala’s annually-- to their "gods".
The thing those knob heads crossing illegally, from Mexico, and those who advocate on their behalf can't figure out is that
1) Their ancestry (Mexico’s), stretches to Europe too, and…
2) The illegals coming to the USA, have never been a part of the native tribes that are here.
3) IF they sneak in illegally, they are ineligible for asylum.
4) When they refused Mexico’s offer of Asylum, Jobs and Shelter—they became ineligible for “Asylum” status here in the USA
5) A vast number of these kids are NOT coming w/ their parents. They are found to be w/ smugglers/human traffickers.
Why does La Raza 1) NOT take into consideration that the area they claim-- was either conceded by Mexico, after it got it's ass whipped? 2) NOT address the fact that a large portion of the southwest was legally purchased from Mexico?
Tell me, what part of the United States belonged to Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador, and Nicaragua??
Strange, it’s odd how they don’t seem to realize what Mexico (actually Mexico and Mexicans NOT Spain or Spaniards) did in the Comanche-Mexico Wars, the Apache-Mexico Wars and the other Mexico-Indian Wars-- to the people (who were actually indigenous to the territory United States, especially the parts of the U.S. that used to be part of Mexico or on its old borders).
The Comanche and the Apache both did the serious raids far into Mexico due to Mexico’s belligerence against them. The Comanche almost got all the way to Mexico City in their attacks against Mexico. They weren’t doing that because Mexico was treating them well or because they felt themselves to be the same indigenous people as Mexicans-- and that’s leaving aside Cortez et al, and look at how Mexico treats its actual indigenous peoples-- still to this day.”
There is a lot of genetic and archaeological evidence that supports the Multiple Migration theory (yet textbooks support a debunked single migration). Mexico won their lands by war, lost it by the same. Mexican citizens in the territories that became part of the USA were allowed to keep their property
rights (so no "ancestral" claims hold much weight). They weren't forced to leave. Mexico could never hold Texas. Too many here (including the Comanche) hated them. There was at least one tribe that purchased protection from the Comanche, after having their villages regularly attacked by Mexico. (That would be the Wichita)
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@djack39 The pronoun issue is strange. Personally, I use people's names, when speaking to them, not 1st person, 2nd person, or 3rd person pronouns.
1st person pronouns are grouped into 5 categories: Subject pronouns 1st person "I", Object pronouns 1st person "Me", possessive adjectives 1st person "My", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Mine", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Myself"
2nd person: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourself"
3rd person (Male): Subject pronouns 3rd person "He", Object pronouns 3rd person "Him", possessive adjectives 3rd person "His", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "His", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Himself"
3rd person (Female): Subject pronouns 3rd person "She", Object pronouns 3rd person "Her", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Her", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Hers", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Herself"
3rd Thing: Subject pronouns 3rd thing "It", Object pronouns 3rd thing "It", possessive adjectives 3rd thing "Its", Possessive pronouns 3rd thing "Not Used", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd thing "Itself"
1st person plural: Subject pronouns "We", Object pronouns 1st person "Us", possessive adjectives 1st person "Our", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Ours", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Ourselves"
2nd person plural: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourselves"
3rd person and (thing) plural: Subject pronouns "They", Object pronouns "Them", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Their", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Theirs", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Themselves".
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@hellfire7726 I know you meant XY, not YY-- but that's besides the point.
You're mad because we don't see you as you see yourself, and we aren't falling for your disguise, or your incoherent explanations of your ideology... Now, go cry about it.
You don't accept yourself, so go through elaborate measures to transform your appearance into something you're not, and expect to be accepted for your disguise, as opposed to being accepted for who and what you really are. That's not even as deep as a baby-spoon, and you act like it's as deep as the ocean and filled with the wisdom of the ages
It's XX, XY, Birth Defect. Deal with it
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@geekmongerer Look, it's XX, XY, Birth Defect/Anomaly... That's it
They're attempting to rename and recategorize the variability in personality traits, and temperament (Neither of which, are gender exclusive-- Hence tomboys, effeminate males, and butch females) "Gender", and that's just wrong.
Gender Dysphoria is an extremely rare condition, and there are those who argue that most "Trans" people are merely unapologetically, embracing their particular perversions but are being inappropriately grouped together under the 'Gender Dysphoria' umbrella.
Their intolerance for themselves, and those who recognize them for what they are, as opposed to what they wish they were, or how they wish they would be perceived, is a THEM-- problem, that they're trying to make into a 'Me'/'US' (The vast majority of the human population's) problem, and the answer to that is-- No
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True gender dysphoria is very rare, and I believe the trans-activist ideology and narratives are inappropriately grouping trans people, who are for the most part, merely unapologetically embracing and indulging their perversions-- under the gender dysphoria umbrella. It's disingenuous at BEST
Liberals want to give your children hormone blockers, inject them with poison, shame them for their skin color, teach them to be gay, allow them to be groomed by pedophiles and give control of them over to the state.
The sad part is that I don't have to exaggerate these claims.
They openly support this evil.
You are watching the death spiral of the Democratic party.
To the feminists who go along with their incoherent ideology-- Best of luck in your near dystopian future, where you'll then be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will say they're women too. And they don't even see it coming. Don't say, no one ever told you
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@kay-ju4gj Fyi, gender dysphoria is a mental disorder too, but when you operate as though your subjective self-perception, which is not based in objective reality-- but must be considered valid by the rest of the world-- coupled with the notion that others must perceive you as you perceive yourself-- is TOTALLY Narcissistic. How is it not?
Perhaps, they're merely an acquaintance... I don't know.
Either way, You don't get to choose the one's that others use, when speaking about you to someone else.
Free lesson to the grammatically challenged regarding pronouns and how they're utilized:
1st person pronouns are grouped into 5 categories: Subject pronouns 1st person "I", Object pronouns 1st person "Me", possessive adjectives 1st person "My", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Mine", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Myself"
2nd person: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourself"
3rd person (Male): Subject pronouns 3rd person "He", Object pronouns 3rd person "Him", possessive adjectives 3rd person "His", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "His", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Himself"
3rd person (Female): Subject pronouns 3rd person "She", Object pronouns 3rd person "Her", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Her", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Hers", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Herself"
3rd Thing: Subject pronouns 3rd thing "It", Object pronouns 3rd thing "It", possessive adjectives 3rd thing "Its", Possessive pronouns 3rd thing "Not Used", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd thing "Itself"
1st person plural: Subject pronouns "We", Object pronouns 1st person "Us", possessive adjectives 1st person "Our", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Ours", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Ourselves"
2nd person plural: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourselves"
3rd person and (thing) plural: Subject pronouns "They", Object pronouns "Them", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Their", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Theirs", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Themselves".
Now stop embarrassing yourself.
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@wulfiii1490 It's XX. XY, Birth Defect... That's it.
They're trying to rename personality traits, "Gender", as if they're interchangeable. They're wrong.
To ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where as a feminist-- You'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are women while they add to your competition in the workplace, take over women's sports, locker rooms, restrooms and showers, as well as in prisons.
They're trying to turn womanhood into a costume that can be worn like a disguise. You'll see, and when they do-- don't say nobody told you
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@heyheyhey0220 No, not at all. You do seem to be virtue signaling, the problem is the absence of any actual virtue.
They're trying to rename personality traits, "Gender", as if they're interchangeable. They're wrong.
To ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where as a feminist-- You'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are women while they add to your competition in the workplace, take over women's sports, locker rooms, restrooms and showers, as well as in prisons.
They're trying to turn womanhood into a costume that can be worn like a disguise. You'll see, and when they do-- don't say nobody told you
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@Erik-fn7kj Both of your examples, as I already pointed out-- are people talking to others, Not talking to me.
My friends, peers, family, and employees refer to me as Zach, sir, or Mr. Petersen, as for the rest-- whatever... I've never had someone refer to me as he or she when speaking to me, because that's not how people talk.
If people say whatever they say, when talking to others-- not in my presence-- couldn't care less.
If they're just trying to be provocative and be snarky and for example say, Mrs. Petersen-- I let them know I used to work with the developmentally disabled and they didn't seem to have trouble telling the difference, and ask what's their excuse.
Once, I had a snarky girl ask when I was going to cut my hair, (insinuating I looked like a girl) It was the 80's back then-- I asked her when she was going to go on Jenny Craig. Her friend spit out her soda laughing at her well deserved pwnage
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Only when speaking for yourself -- and then your choices are limited to I, Me, My-- unless you're talking about yourself in the 3rd person, which is pretty weird.
You should get a refund from your English grammar teachers.
You don't get to choose the one's that others use, when speaking about you to someone else.
1st person pronouns are grouped into 5 categories: Subject pronouns 1st person "I", Object pronouns 1st person "Me", possessive adjectives 1st person "My", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Mine", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Myself"
2nd person: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourself"
3rd person (Male): Subject pronouns 3rd person "He", Object pronouns 3rd person "Him", possessive adjectives 3rd person "His", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "His", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Himself"
3rd person (Female): Subject pronouns 3rd person "She", Object pronouns 3rd person "Her", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Her", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Hers", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Herself"
3rd Thing: Subject pronouns 3rd thing "It", Object pronouns 3rd thing "It", possessive adjectives 3rd thing "Its", Possessive pronouns 3rd thing "Not Used", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd thing "Itself"
1st person plural: Subject pronouns "We", Object pronouns 1st person "Us", possessive adjectives 1st person "Our", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Ours", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Ourselves"
2nd person plural: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourselves"
3rd person and (thing) plural: Subject pronouns "They", Object pronouns "Them", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Their", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Theirs", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Themselves".
Now stop embarrassing yourself.
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Yes... Morons, and trolls seem to be the majority of their demographic's makeup.
True gender dysphoria is very rare, and I believe the trans-activist ideology and narratives are inappropriately grouping trans people, who are for the most part, merely unapologetically embracing and indulging their perversions-- under the gender dysphoria umbrella. It's disingenuous at BEST
Liberals want to give your children hormone blockers, inject them with poison, shame them for their skin color, teach them to be gay, allow them to be groomed by pedophiles and give control of them over to the state.
The sad part is that I don't have to exaggerate these claims.
They openly support this evil.
You are watching the death spiral of the Democratic party.
To the feminists who go along with their incoherent ideology-- Best of luck in your near dystopian future, where you'll then be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will say they're women too. And they don't even see it coming.
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@harpoonmcfierce9697 the metric that there are male and female, that they're permanent states, and that it's verifiable via genetic testing long after a person's dead. How is that confusing to you?
The narrative suggests that gender is fluid, and simultaneously suggests that the justification for gender reassignment surgery and treatment is that the girl who's trapped in a male body, has an immutable male identity are competing ideas. Both can't be true. Actually, neither are true.
The gender ideology narrative is incoherent, and just wrong. It seems to conflate personality traits like masculinity, femininity, aggressiveness, passivity, agreeableness (which are not gender specific), for gender-- and it's just wrong.
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If you want to call me trans-phobic-- I really couldn't care less. There's no there-- there.
You can rename men 'trans', and it changes nothing but the name. It doesn't change them or make them women, or illustrate that they're trans anything.
If your subjective identity is predicated on the notion that society needs to ignore objective reality, then your identity is not valid.
How does advocating in favor of men infiltrating women's private spaces, show any respect or consideration for women and their private spaces???
Why, according to you-- should men should be able to infiltrate women's private spaces like restrooms, prisons, locker rooms and sports teams?? 🦗🦗🦗
Woe to the feminists who buy into this incoherent ideology, as in their near dystopian future, they'll be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim that they're women.
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It's not incorrect. Only when speaking for yourself -- and then your choices are limited to I, Me, My-- unless you're talking about yourself in the 3rd person, which is pretty weird.
You should get a refund from your English grammar teachers.
You don't get to choose the one's that others use, when speaking about you to someone else.
1st person pronouns are grouped into 5 categories: Subject pronouns 1st person "I", Object pronouns 1st person "Me", possessive adjectives 1st person "My", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Mine", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Myself"
2nd person: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourself"
3rd person (Male): Subject pronouns 3rd person "He", Object pronouns 3rd person "Him", possessive adjectives 3rd person "His", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "His", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Himself"
3rd person (Female): Subject pronouns 3rd person "She", Object pronouns 3rd person "Her", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Her", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Hers", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Herself"
3rd Thing: Subject pronouns 3rd thing "It", Object pronouns 3rd thing "It", possessive adjectives 3rd thing "Its", Possessive pronouns 3rd thing "Not Used", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd thing "Itself"
1st person plural: Subject pronouns "We", Object pronouns 1st person "Us", possessive adjectives 1st person "Our", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Ours", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Ourselves"
2nd person plural: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourselves"
3rd person and (thing) plural: Subject pronouns "They", Object pronouns "Them", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Their", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Theirs", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Themselves".
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@baristaz8834 1. The short answer is: reality, and the ability to discern fact from fiction.
In a car wreck, the EMT's know it's a male or a female
On the coroner's slab, they know it's a male or a female
Archaeologists can identify them as a male or a female
Because... That's all there is. Male or Female, and that condition is permanent, regardless of delusions to the contrary
2. How is that relevant; I never made any comments about feelings?
3. Mutilation: Mutilation or maiming is cutting off or causing injury to a body part of a person, so that the part of the body is permanently damaged, detached or disfigured. How is that confusing to you??
4. Men who have vasectomies are not now women, and they're under no delusion about that-- being the point your suggestion fails to take into account. In addition, they're reversible ie. Not permanent, they also don't detach or disfigure anything. Bad Comparison example. It shows that you don't understand the meaning of the words you're using, as evidenced by the definition of mutilation.
Hope that clarifies things for you
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@krasmasov6852 What are you talking about? You've refuted nothing whatsoever, and neither has anyone else who's an activist or advocate-- such as yourself.
Bottom line, I have no dog in this fight. It's you who and the extreme minority in the world of trans-activists, who wish that I-- and the rest of the world affirm and validate your ideology by using your preferred pronouns, etc.-- but you fail to persuade, so the answer is-- No. It looks like you're owning yourself, by continuing to fail to persuade. You're a disingenuous troll, who's only shown yourself to be playing the part of a triggered fool
You've established nothing and have refuted even less.
Then there are the women's prisons, which now house violent, trans-women offenders ie. Men, who have raped and impregnated several female inmates, proving that they are not that which they claim to be-- ie. women, and how they identify has ZERO impact on the truth that men cannot become women, and women cannot become men
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@krasmasov6852 Only when speaking for yourself -- and then your choices are limited to I, Me, My-- unless you're talking about yourself in the 3rd person, which is pretty weird.
You should get a refund from your English grammar teachers.
You don't get to choose the one's that others use, when speaking about you to someone else.
1st person pronouns are grouped into 5 categories: Subject pronouns 1st person "I", Object pronouns 1st person "Me", possessive adjectives 1st person "My", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Mine", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Myself"
2nd person: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourself"
3rd person (Male): Subject pronouns 3rd person "He", Object pronouns 3rd person "Him", possessive adjectives 3rd person "His", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "His", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Himself"
3rd person (Female): Subject pronouns 3rd person "She", Object pronouns 3rd person "Her", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Her", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Hers", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Herself"
3rd Thing: Subject pronouns 3rd thing "It", Object pronouns 3rd thing "It", possessive adjectives 3rd thing "Its", Possessive pronouns 3rd thing "Not Used", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd thing "Itself"
1st person plural: Subject pronouns "We", Object pronouns 1st person "Us", possessive adjectives 1st person "Our", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Ours", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Ourselves"
2nd person plural: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourselves"
3rd person and (thing) plural: Subject pronouns "They", Object pronouns "Them", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Their", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Theirs", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Themselves".
Now stop embarrassing yourself.
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@kylewilliams5454 Like I said, You don't get to choose the one's that others use, when speaking about you to someone else.
1st person pronouns are grouped into 5 categories: Subject pronouns 1st person "I", Object pronouns 1st person "Me", possessive adjectives 1st person "My", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Mine", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Myself"
2nd person: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourself"
3rd person (Male): Subject pronouns 3rd person "He", Object pronouns 3rd person "Him", possessive adjectives 3rd person "His", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "His", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Himself"
3rd person (Female): Subject pronouns 3rd person "She", Object pronouns 3rd person "Her", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Her", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Hers", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Herself"
3rd Thing: Subject pronouns 3rd thing "It", Object pronouns 3rd thing "It", possessive adjectives 3rd thing "Its", Possessive pronouns 3rd thing "Not Used", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd thing "Itself"
1st person plural: Subject pronouns "We", Object pronouns 1st person "Us", possessive adjectives 1st person "Our", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Ours", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Ourselves"
2nd person plural: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourselves"
3rd person and (thing) plural: Subject pronouns "They", Object pronouns "Them", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Their", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Theirs", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Themselves".
Now stop embarrassing yourself.
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@timsplosion NO, it makes it clear that they're attempting to look and act how they perceive their notion of what it is to be the opposite of their biology, looks like.
Not if men can be women, and women can be men-- there aren't. Perhaps, making an argument against the possibility of any gender pay gap is the logic?
I agree that it's psychological though. Pure fantasy and delusion disconnected from reality.
If gender isn't tied to biology, and gender is fluid and unfixed-- why the need for altering the biology, and adding costumes to add in the appearance of actually being the opposite biological sex, rather than just accepting the premise and just correctly identifying as they are? It's unsound thinking
I would suggest that if we go with your narrative that gender is not tied to biology, then the biology would be irrelevant, and the idea of transitioning biologically would be senseless. They could just pretend to be what they want. Expecting the rest of the universe to pretend they're a member of a sex that they are not if they believed their narrative--would make them, inconsistent at the very least.
They're not entitled to their own pronouns any more than I'm entitled to my own adjectives
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@brendamartinez2236 I know... That's what I said; they're not synonymous w/ gender.
The point is, people are claiming to identify as something other than what they are, and then insisting that the rest of society perceive them, as they perceive themselves subjectively. How is that not a delusional, dissociative state, by definition?
One could, for example-- identify as being taller or more attractive, or intelligent, or physically fit than they actually are, objectively speaking.
Gay and Lesbian people don't seem to have difficulty recognizing men and women and discerning the differences to suite their preferences.
Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively.
Male a female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent, and one's feelings about them don't alter reality about it being true and correct.
The confusion in terminology seems to be rooted in the fact that they're inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament (neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), as if or as though they're synonymous with gender, and they are not.
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@CreativeUsernameEh Just seeing if anyone is paying attention.
Male and Female describe our physical traits aka biology.
Look, you can shove a chicken feather in your butt, and you're still not a chicken, and you have ZERO frame of reference as to how a chicken perceives anything at all, certainly not to be able to identify as a chicken.
You're a dude in a dress and makeup, Or a female attempting to alter your physical appearance to mask your female traits and replace them with male traits. But Getting a nose job has the same amount of impact on ones sex and gender as a sex change-- which is ZERO. They're still a female or a male... Just intentionally mutilated
Isn't it your side's narrative that gender isn't connected to biology? Well, then why the need to transition, or play dress up? crickets
You can put a castrated dog in a dress, and it's still a male dog in a dress. Just sayin...
Seems like your narrative is attempting to rename personality types, 'genders'. Well, That's wrong too
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@CreoleWolf I have no stats to support your claim at all. That's why I asked you for them. You made the claim, so the burden of proof is on you.
The stats I have seen are from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental disorders (DSM 5) and they are showing, "Among [biological males], approximately 0.005 percent to 0.014 percent are later diagnosed with gender dysphoria. Among [biological females], approximately 0.002 percent to 0.003 percent are later diagnosed with gender dysphoria.
Being that gender dysphoria is so extremely rare, according to the stats from the American Psychiatric Association-- Some would argue that Most trans people do not in fact suffer from true gender dysphoria, rather are merely unapologetically embracing their own perversions.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again... You can get a surgeon to alter your appearance to be like a Klingon from Star Trek, but it doesn't make you an actual Klingon, and the same is true regarding gender reassignment surgery. It's XX, XY, Birth Defect. That's It. BTW, Intersex is not another gender, it's a birth defect.
Tell me more about your stats
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@snailtrailgail Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth, and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories, which are fixed and permanent.
TOO Many people are inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender as though they're synonymous, and they are not.
If the validity of one's identity is predicated on the notion that all of society must ignore objective biological realities, then that identity is just not valid. Straight up... It's as simple as that.
Why would someone who believes they're a woman wish to have the 'trans' distinction drawn? That's Odd
Your imagination, and subjective sense of self doesn't invalidate objective reality. If it did, everyone would be rich, happy and healthy too.
Objective biological realities are not up for debate.
Intersex is a disorder, not another sex invalidating the dichotomy of the binary of all mammalian species, and they only EVER present with male and female genitalia.
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If it is-- that gender is socially malleable or a social construct, how does it coexist side by side with the proposition that the girl who's trapped in a male body-- has an immutable male identity? It's incoherent -- or that only the individual themselves can determine their gender identity-- if it's a social construct, how does that work?? Again, It's incoherent
If it were true, that gender is a social construct, fluid, and malleable and not biological-- why the need to transition biologically, or play dress up, and change their physical appearance? Again, incoherent
They're already, who they are to themselves, and the proclivity to alter their biology, suggests that gender is NOT separate from biology. Why the desire to change if gender is merely a social construct? Again, it's incoherent
No, It's XX, XY, Birth defect or evidence that a psych evaluation and treatment be considered, and btw-- the exceptions to the rules do not invalidate the rules. They validate them, hence being the exceptions
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@amylomo9793 The narrative is inappropriately conflating the variability of personality traits and temperament, neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys, with gender.
Gender addresses the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively.
Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
When challenged on the beliefs that skirts, dresses, heels, makeup, hormones, surgery and literally the color pink, nor their fanciful imaginations make them women-- they tend to get unhinged even further, when confronted by the fact that their delusional nonsense is rejected, in favor of reality.
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@amylomo9793 That isn't much of a refutation, but it is a lot of gaslighting far from anything resembling an intellectual rebuttal, or at the very least-- establishing your case.
Respect is earned, and is reserved for that which is respectable.
Those demanding preferred pronoun use on the part of others, in defiance of objective reality, and affirmations from others that they perceive them as they perceive themselves-- is the height of arrogance and narcissism.
You can have a surgeon alter your appearance and prescribe hormones, to make you look like a Klingon from Star Trek, but it doesn't actually make you a Klingon, and if you think it does-- it makes you delusional.
It's XX, XY, birth defect, psych disorder... That's it. Take your pick
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True gender dysphoria is very rare, and I believe the trans-activist ideology and narratives are inappropriately grouping trans people, who are for the most part, merely unapologetically embracing and indulging their perversions-- under the gender dysphoria umbrella. It's disingenuous at BEST
Liberals want to give your children hormone blockers, inject them with poison, shame them for their skin color, teach them to be gay, allow them to be groomed by pedophiles and give control of them over to the state.
The sad part is that I don't have to exaggerate these claims.
They openly support this evil.
You are watching the death spiral of the Democratic party.
To the feminists who go along with their incoherent ideology-- Best of luck in your near dystopian future, where you'll then be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will say they're women too. And they don't even see it coming. Don't say, no one ever told you
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@thecolorblue1635 You're coming off as triggered, making comments which appear designed to attack rather than engage in a civil discourse. You refuted nothing whatsoever in your virtue signaling rant. The trouble is-- there's no virtue in your attacks. Shocker
They're trying to rename personality traits, "Gender", as if they're interchangeable. They're wrong.
To ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where as a feminist-- You'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are women while they add to your competition in the workplace, take over women's sports, locker rooms, restrooms and showers, as well as in prisons.
They're trying to turn womanhood into a costume that can be worn like a disguise. You'll see, and when they do-- don't say nobody told you
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Well Mom, No one with a functioning prefrontal cortex thinks that getting a tattoo or piercing their ears changes their gender.
The pronoun use-- because it's false.
They're trying to rename personality traits, "Gender", as if they're interchangeable. They're wrong.
To ALL the feminists who go along to get along, I wish you well in the coming situation, where as a feminist-- You'll be living under the tyranny of men, thinking and saying that they are women while they add to your competition in the workplace, take over women's sports, locker rooms, restrooms and showers, as well as in prisons.
They're trying to turn womanhood into a costume that can be worn like a disguise. You'll see, and when they do-- don't say nobody told you
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@PKMNFan4664 And... You'd be Wrong. The 1965 Voting Rights Act was signed into law. Contrary to myth, Republicans supported this law much more than did the Democrats. In the Senate, 94% of Republicans voted in favor, while just 73% of Democrats voted for it.
• The Dem party was the party of the Dixiecrats all the way through the 60’s.
• If what the flawed narrative suggested were true-- that the blacks made a switch to their racial friends, it would appear the switch would have to come in the 70’s and the 80’s-- When blacks see the racists are switching, BUT—in reality blacks switched overwhelmingly in the 1930’s.
• The Black Vote went from about 15% to about 75% democrat within about 4 years.
• The reason blacks switched from R to D’s had everything to do with the New Deal.
• Blacks in the North and the South switched to the Dem party because of New Deal Benefits
Redefining terms is what they do, to cause the confusion making it easier to serve up revisionist history to the ignorant, during their indoctrination (K-12, and continued into "higher learning").
Many have been led to believe that the political spectrum places groups such as Communists on the far left and Fascists or Dictators on the far right and political moderates or centrists in the middle;
However, a more accurate political spectrum will show government having ZERO power on the far right, and having Total government power on the far left.
At the extreme Right there is NO government, at the extreme Left there is TOTAL government under such labels as Communism, Socialism, Nazism, Fascism, Princes, Potentates, Dictators, Kings-- ANY form of TOTAL government.
Those who claim Nazis and Fascists are right wing never define their terms. This amounts to spreading confusion.
Toward the middle of the political spectrum can be found the type of government, limited to it's proper role of protecting the rights of the people. That's where the Constitution of the USA is., and those who advocate for such a form of government are really Constitutional moderates.
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@showithere8550 You wrote, "3.5% is still quite a lot of people, than any other group of people especially, that's still quite concerning 😟🤔. Poor white guys. I wonder what's the issue?
the bottom line is, most people struggle with mental issues whether they are aware of it or not, or whether they get help for it or not. You using a statistic of a small group of trans people having mental problems is not the flex you thought it was. Try again."-- Then I guess you're blocking me, because your comment and my replies are not showing up when I reply. Whatever...
Not when you look at it in proportion to the 40% of those in the LGBTQ community, and realize that of the 3% of the total population, only a small fraction of them are LGBTQ, but then-- I realize that, "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance". -- T. Sowell
No, most people don't struggle with mental illness, but all people struggle with difficulties. There's a significant difference with how the two comparatively-- face their trials and challenges
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He doesn't use 'they/them' when speaking to his friend. That would be grammatically incorrect. He uses their name.
Only when speaking for yourself -- and then your choices are limited to I, Me, My-- unless you're talking about yourself in the 3rd person, which is pretty weird.
You should get a refund from your English grammar teachers.
You don't get to choose the one's that others use, when speaking about you to someone else.
1st person pronouns are grouped into 5 categories: Subject pronouns 1st person "I", Object pronouns 1st person "Me", possessive adjectives 1st person "My", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Mine", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Myself"
2nd person: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourself"
3rd person (Male): Subject pronouns 3rd person "He", Object pronouns 3rd person "Him", possessive adjectives 3rd person "His", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "His", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Himself"
3rd person (Female): Subject pronouns 3rd person "She", Object pronouns 3rd person "Her", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Her", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Hers", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Herself"
3rd Thing: Subject pronouns 3rd thing "It", Object pronouns 3rd thing "It", possessive adjectives 3rd thing "Its", Possessive pronouns 3rd thing "Not Used", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd thing "Itself"
1st person plural: Subject pronouns "We", Object pronouns 1st person "Us", possessive adjectives 1st person "Our", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Ours", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Ourselves"
2nd person plural: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourselves"
3rd person and (thing) plural: Subject pronouns "They", Object pronouns "Them", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Their", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Theirs", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Themselves".
Now stop embarrassing yourself.
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Only when speaking for yourself -- and then your choices are limited to I, Me, My-- unless you're talking about yourself in the 3rd person, which is pretty weird.
You should get a refund from your English grammar teachers.
You don't get to choose the one's that others use, when speaking about you to someone else.
1st person pronouns are grouped into 5 categories: Subject pronouns 1st person "I", Object pronouns 1st person "Me", possessive adjectives 1st person "My", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Mine", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Myself"
2nd person: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourself"
3rd person (Male): Subject pronouns 3rd person "He", Object pronouns 3rd person "Him", possessive adjectives 3rd person "His", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "His", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Himself"
3rd person (Female): Subject pronouns 3rd person "She", Object pronouns 3rd person "Her", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Her", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Hers", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Herself"
3rd Thing: Subject pronouns 3rd thing "It", Object pronouns 3rd thing "It", possessive adjectives 3rd thing "Its", Possessive pronouns 3rd thing "Not Used", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd thing "Itself"
1st person plural: Subject pronouns "We", Object pronouns 1st person "Us", possessive adjectives 1st person "Our", Possessive pronouns 1st person "Ours", and Reflexive pronouns 1st person "Ourselves"
2nd person plural: Subject pronouns 2nd person "You", Object pronouns 2nd person "You", possessive adjectives 2nd person "Your", Possessive pronouns 2nd person "Yours", and Reflexive pronouns 2nd person "Yourselves"
3rd person and (thing) plural: Subject pronouns "They", Object pronouns "Them", possessive adjectives 3rd person "Their", Possessive pronouns 3rd person "Theirs", and Reflexive pronouns 3rd person "Themselves".
Now stop embarrassing yourself.
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