Comments by "Z P" (@zachman5150) on "I spent a day with TRANS WOMEN: "Controversial to be a Woman"" video.

  1. If as you believe, gender and sex are truly independent, why are trans people subscribing to a sexual stereotypical caricature of biological sex as their blueprint for how they present themselves???
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  2. You can't change your gender. You can only reject traditional gender roles by engaging in various levels of cosplay and LARPing... You could have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon, and it wouldn't make you a Klingon either. A dude with top and bottom surgery and wearing a dress is still a dude, regardless of his desire to be a woman-- he's not and can't ever be, is the point you can't escape. How is he not?
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  3. Trans women are MEN with issues, pretending that they're women without issues. There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female.
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  4. Curious...What percentage of people who consider themselves trans, are from single parent households, where the fathers are not present?
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  5.  @Assassin6687  Evidence?
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  6. trans women are men, who wish they were women, portraying a caricature of a sexist stereotype of a woman. The problem is, there is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female.
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  7.  @Netsirk96  Quit conflating gender with personality traits, & temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and gender roles. They're not synonymous. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. A woman is an adult human, female and that status is a biological one, which is fixed and permanent. A woman is not a social construct (though her roles in society are). She is also not a feeling, a s3xu@l preference, or a costume that a man can put on or take off. You could have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, and regardless of how it makes you feel-- it doesn't make you an actual Klingon, and those who think it does are delusional and detached from reality
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  8.  @mukilandhinesh3931  There's no h8 involved in recognizing that a man in a dress-- is a man. That's just being observant of reality. Get Real
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  9.  @WillieManga  Women (ALL of them) are born female. ZERO exceptions
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  10. Your wardrobe selection doesn't make you a woman or a man.
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  11. Quit whining. It's boring. You need to grow up. The world owes you nothing, so you better learn to cope with rejection or learn to embrace reality
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  12.  @Hellokittylover2884  Your DNA literally organizes your physical body. DNA dictates the production of objective biological differences between males and females. 100% of the population is either male or female, even intersex people. If they have a Y chromosome, they are heterogametic and male. If not, they are homogametic and female. Personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive -- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), aren't synonymous with gender or gender roles. There is no internal feeling that is exclusive to men or women (or boys/girls), what makes anyone a man or a woman is being either male or female and reaching adulthood. Their sex and stage of physical maturity makes them men or women, not some "feeling" they have. Believing there is some "essence" specific to males or female as far as feelings go, that can manifest "in the wrong body", is akin to a religious belief, having faith in something that is impossible to prove or disprove. The thing is though, that no one on the "trans" side can actually even explain what this "essence" is, they can't even explain it to themselves yet have convinced themselves that the feeling they have means they "are in the wrong body" - without realizing that their discomfort simply stems from not realizing that they view conforming to sexist stereotypes as legitimate measures of manhood or womanhood. That is why every explanation given of WHY a male "can't be a man, but is instead woman" etc. relies upon listing stereotypical stuff, or, in some cases is completely abstract and refuses to actually provide any explanation of what they mean, simply stating they "know" that what they feel means what they say it does, even though they can't actually provide a definition of it. "It's hard to explain but I know I'm right" is an attitude one constantly comes up against - a religious faith in something they can't define. This idea that the terms "man" and "woman" carry all this baggage, sexist stereotypes, that people need to live up to or feel comfortable with is a complete fabrication coming from the "trans" side. You lot want a term to reflect aspects of your personality as well, you want to create more boxes to put people in, as you won't accept simply just being a man or a woman based on being born male or female (and reaching adulthood, obviously people are boys and girls before becoming men or women), but believe you need this "freedom of expression" to broadcast what sexist stereotypes you feel more comfortable with - thinking the world needs to adopt the sexist view you lot have (you fail to see just how much you have in common with Conservatives). Replacing objective definitions which are based in physical reality, with entirely subjective metaphysical claims, is not logical in any way, is not morally superior, and is demonstrably harmful, not least to female rights and protections, but also to practically anyone that buys into it as it warps people's perception of the underlying issues. It hinders people in their quest for individuation, creating this false narrative of them becoming more "authentic" when the total opposite is true, they believe they need validation from others in order to be happy etc. instead of being encouraged to find more inner strength and resilience with less reliance on how people see them. Demanding to be legally recognized as the opposite sex of what one is, is in no way shape or form more authentic than accepting the physical reality one is born into. To believe we as individuals can have 100% control over our identity in society, what we are seen as by others, in interaction with, and in relation to, society/the world/physical existence is a fool's errand, it is a delusional understanding of reality and existence.
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  13. That unhinged dude is making a mockery of women.
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  14.  @BrontiThor  Women don't present the same threat level to men, as men do to women. Wake up
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  15. That is the sound of rejection... You better learn to cope harder
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  16.  @Фор-ы3е  Being that all women are born female, all men are born male, and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, or a costume... How do you figure they're any kind of woman??? That's nonsense
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  17. They've gotten it totally wrong on gender. Gender, (there are 2 male, and female) that's it, refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Then, they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then they conflate gender with sexual preference. Then, they conflate males with females, fact with fiction and men with women. A woman isn't a personality, a social construct, a feeling, or a costume that a man can just put on or take off-- She's an adult, human, female. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman-- and that's being born female. For some reason, they seem unable to process that
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  18. Yes, ALL women are born female, which makes using the cult term cis/trans useless and intellectually vacant. A woman isn't a feeling, social construct or a costume. Now you know Better. You're Welcome
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  19. They've gotten it totally wrong on gender. Gender, (there are 2 male, and female) that's it, refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Then, they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then they conflate gender with sexual preference. Then, they conflate males with females, fact with fiction and men with women. A woman isn't a personality, a social construct, a feeling, or a costume that a man can just put on or take off-- She's an adult, human, female. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman-- and that's being born female. For some reason, they seem unable to process that
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  20.  @BellaVRC  No... That's incorrect. Sex/Gender is established at conception, and it's observed and documented at birth or before. All men are born male, all women are born female and their anxiety about reality doesn't alter reality one bit. Neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, personality, preference or a costume
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  21.  @ajlucky0076  You can identify as a Klingon for all I care (I don't at all), then you can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon and it doesn't make you a Klingon, and anyone who suggests it does is delusional too
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  22.  @Hellokittylover2884  Not much of a rebuttal. Nope... Not even close. Science shows that all mammals have a physical binary dichotomy of male and female. That's it. You certainly haven't proven that a man who wishes he were, or believes he's a woman is anything other than a man. Got anything??? The arguments just don't withstand scrutiny, because life is based in objective reality, and the trans imagination just doesn't override people's capacity for discernment. Why should a man, regardless of his anxiety about his gender (which is established at conception and is observed and documented at his birth), or his desire that reality were different, be treated as anything other than a man?? The inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you/they wished they were in your/their subjective imaginations, doesn't change reality. The main problem the trans activist's narratives have is that life is based in objective reality, and most people don't have difficulty deciphering reality from the trans imagination. What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that in the slightest. All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, costumes, fetishes or preferences. That you/they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's the inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you/they wished things were-- while failing to realize that your imagination doesn't impact the capacity for discernment of the vast majority to decipher reality from the trans imagination. Now you know better. Take your time to process. Seethe if you must, then just cope harder
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  23. Really?? hmmm
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  24. You're not a fairy princess because you identify as one, and dress in the costume. Subjective gender identity claims aren't what make anyone a man or a woman... It's biology. Can anyone make it make sense? No one has justified the expectation that anyone is obligated to treat a man in a dress as though he's a woman
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  25.  @Sentient-potato  Well, they're certainly not adult, human, females. Get Real
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  26. That's the sound of the vast majority or people, rejecting this incoherent trans-activist nonsense for the nonsense that it is.
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  27. That dude is unhinged
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  28.  @Mel-wn9gb  "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority, in their ignorance".-- T. Sowell
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  29. There's no hate involved in recognizing that a man in a dress is a man in a dress. That's just being observant of objective reality
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  30. Sex: The state of being either male or female in most species of metazoans. In humans, each cell nucleus contains 23 pairs of chromosomes, a total of 46 chromosomes. The first 22 pairs are called autosomes. Autosomes are homologous chromosomes, that is, chromosomes that contain the same genes (regions of DNA) in the same order along their chromosomal arms. The 23rd pair of chromosomes are called allosomes (sex chromosomes). These consist of two X chromosomes in most all females, and an X chromosome and a Y chromosome in most all males. Females therefore have 23 homologous chromosome pairs, while males have 22. The X and Y chromosomes have small regions of homology called pseudoautosomal regions. The X chromosome is always present as the 23rd chromosome in the ovum, while either an X or Y chromosome may be present in an individual sperm. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either (anatomical) hermaphrodites or of indeterminate sex (or disordered sex, to be more accurate). That does not negate the incontrovertible FACT that there are but two sexes. In order for reproduction to take place, there is the requirement of a female ovum and a male sperm to unite, and because the entire purpose of the gender/sex division of most species of animals is to enable procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the individual in question. There is no third gamete. Cf. “gender”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). Gender: The status of being either male or female, and because the entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in his/her womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate him/herself). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender. Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema.
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  31.  @GingerBeanie  Just not as what they wished they were, in reality.
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  32. We've created an entire generation of Faberge eggs that will literally crack at the first piece of adversity they encounter, leading to outrageous calls for censorship and other nonsense
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  33.  @TheBigJayAgenda  Way to miss the point.
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  34.  @theviewer6889  Men (ALL of them) are born male. Women (ALL of them) are born female, making cis totally irrelevant and useless
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  35. You can identify as a Klingon, have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon, and it doesn't make you a Klingon, and anyone who says it does is delusional or intellectually incompetent.
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  36.  @WillieManga  Wanting to be yourself doesn't require surgical alterations. That's the opposite of being yourself. Get a clue
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  37.  @WillieManga  Then quit your whining and insisting that me and everyone else in the world-- validating your subjective identity, as though it was relevant in objective reality to anyone but you-- by participating in your LARP and cosplay by insisting on grammatically incorrect use of pronouns, and at the expense of displacing women's privacy. The fact that people lack the sufficient coping skills to deal with life as it is, doesn't exactly highlight a well-balanced individual in the 1st place. I posit that it is those who endorse affirmation-based treatment protocols who are not addressing the root issue, and are willing for them to self delete-- by exhibiting questionable AT BEST ethics, evidenced by the extraordinarily high rate of self-deletes even after transition, compared to the general population-- but they got paid anyway, and considering that-- the claims of efficacy by those like you that the course of treatment is efficacious at all is totally unjustifiable, imo.
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  38.  @greteez  No one has proven that a man with severe anxiety about reality, his biology or wishing it were different is anything other than a man. Got anything? Look, All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, preference, fetish or a costume. Your anxiety, preferences, imagination, wardrobe and feelings don't alter your gender at all. Now you know better... Relax.
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  39. I had a paranoid schizophrenic tell me that aliens are in direct contact with him and the other true heroes on the planet. Also that they communicate through fruit. I just nodded. Affirmation treatment protocols suggest that their delusion should've been affirmed as valid. Make it make sense
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  40.  @TheRealToast0  So? Once a male, Always a male, and once a female, Always a female... One cannot become the other. Cope Harder
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  41.  @ajlucky0076  Way too many are inappropriately conflating gender/sex (There are only 2- male/female... That's it) with gender roles (Social constructs which refer to the roles of males and females in society) and personality (None are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) as if they're synonymous. That's a massive error on your part. All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, fetish, feeling, preference or a costume. Gender: The status of being either male or female, and because the entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in his/her womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate him/herself). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender. Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;)
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  42.  @bellaspeaks  Men can't become women. Having your factory equipment removed doesn't make you a woman. It makes you a dickless dude
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  43.  @CramiumsCranium  No-- You aren't. A dude who opts to cut off his junk is still a dude, just now without his junk
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  44.  @BellaVRC  When they say trans women are women, what do you think they're saying? All women are born female, all men are born male and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference or costume, making cis/trans distinctions totally useless and intellectually vacant
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  45. A woman isn't a social construct, feeling or a costume that a man can put on or take off. There are people. People exist. People are human and they're either male or female... That's it. As it turns out, women (ALL of them) are born female, and men are all born male. Cis/trans, as best as I can tell, are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are. Why should all of society be required to deny objective reality and be compelled to participate in the LARP and cosplay-- as a matter of law, counter to objective reality??? To suggest such a thing is the height of arrogance and narcissism.
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  46. Nonetheless, there is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female, making the use of cis/trans utterly useless
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  47. The truth can sting. I get that. What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, costumes, or preferences. That you can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's your inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you wished they were.
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  48. Your grandma is still a woman even though she post menopausal. He's not a fairy princess because he identify as one, and dress in the costume. Subjective gender identity claims aren't what make anyone a man or a woman... It's biology. Can anyone make it make sense? No one has justified the expectation that anyone is obligated to treat a man in a dress as though he's a woman
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  49. Your expectation is, "I choose to live in your country, therefore you must follow our trans cult religion and abandon your culture, to adopt ours-- because we're entitled", and you're not, so if you expect acceptance, affirmation or validation, you better come up with something better than making self-entitled claims and acting like everyone is obligated to do as you wish
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  50.  @the_first_curse4  That doesn't sound like the actions of a well-balanced individual, now does it? Get Real
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  51.  @zomzomino  🤡
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  52.  @Ajmcm  The self deletion rate even after surgery, isn't a shinning example of effective treatment protocols being realized
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  53. Your sophistry is rejected. Cope Harder. All women are born female, and as you pointed out-- you believe gender identity and sex are separate, so go ahead and justify encroaching on things separated based on sex, as an entitlement. You can't, so quit whining You haven't come close yet, to being able to justify the expectation that just because you present and identify in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must treat you as though you're the opposite sex. The world isn't your therapist and doesn't owe you special consideration. To expect it does is the height of narcissism and arrogance. You have nothing justifying why your whining should be taken seriously
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  54.  quarlie1086  Knock it off! There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female.
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  55.  @Sentient-potato  Wishing you were the opposite sex in reality, doesn't make it so. Believing there is some "essence" specific to males or female as far as feelings go, that can manifest "in the wrong body", is akin to a religious belief, having faith in something that is impossible to prove or disprove. The thing is though, that no one on the "trans" side can actually even explain what this "essence" is, they can't even explain it to themselves yet have convinced themselves that the feeling they have means they "are in the wrong body" - without realizing that their discomfort simply stems from not realizing that they view conforming to sexist stereotypes as legitimate measures of manhood or womanhood. That is why every explanation given, of WHY a male "can't be a man, but is instead woman" etc. relies upon listing stereotypical stuff, or, in some cases is completely abstract and refuses to actually provide any explanation of what they mean, simply stating they "know" that what they feel means what they say it does, even though they can't actually provide a definition of it. "It's hard to explain but I know I'm right" is an attitude one constantly comes up against - a religious faith in something they can't define. This idea that the terms "man" and "woman" carry all this baggage, sexist stereotypes, that people need to live up to or feel comfortable with is a complete fabrication coming from the "trans" side. You want a term to reflect aspects of your personality as well, you want to create more boxes to put people in, as you won't accept simply just being a man or a woman based on being born male or female (and reaching adulthood. Replacing objective definitions which are based in physical reality, with entirely subjective metaphysical claims, is not logical in any way, is not morally superior, and is demonstrably harmful, not least to female rights and protections, but also to practically anyone who buys into it, as it warps people's perception of the underlying issues. It hinders people in their quest for individuation, creating this false narrative of them becoming more "authentic" when the total opposite is true, they believe they need validation from others in order to be happy etc. instead of being encouraged to find more inner strength and resilience with less reliance on how people see them. Demanding to be legally recognized as the opposite sex of what one is, is in no way shape or form more authentic than accepting the physical reality one is born into. To believe we as individuals can have 100% control over our identity in society, what we are seen as by others, in interaction with, and in relation to, society/the world/physical existence is a fool's errand, it is a delusional understanding of reality and existence. Now you know better
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  56.  @summerblade3790  Coping with reality seems to be difficult for the trans community
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  57.  @summerblade3790  Believing there is some "essence" specific to males or female as far as feelings go, that can manifest "in the wrong body", is akin to a religious belief, having faith in something that is impossible to prove or disprove. The thing is though, that no one on the "trans" side can actually even explain what this "essence" is, they can't even explain it to themselves yet have convinced themselves that the feeling they have means they "are in the wrong body" - without realizing that their discomfort simply stems from not realizing that they view conforming to sexist stereotypes as legitimate measures of manhood or womanhood. That is why every explanation given of WHY a male "can't be a man, but is instead woman" etc. relies upon listing stereotypical stuff, or, in some cases is completely abstract and refuses to actually provide any explanation of what they mean, simply stating they "know" that what they feel means what they say it does, even though they can't actually provide a definition of it. "It's hard to explain but I know I'm right" is an attitude one constantly comes up against - a religious faith in something they can't define. This idea that the terms "man" and "woman" carry all this baggage, sexist stereotypes, that people need to live up to or feel comfortable with is a complete fabrication coming from the "trans" side. You lot want a term to reflect aspects of your personality as well, you want to create more boxes to put people in, as you won't accept simply just being a man or a woman based on being born male or female (and reaching adulthood, obviously people are boys and girls before becoming men or women), but believe you need this "freedom of expression" to broadcast what sexist stereotypes you feel more comfortable with - thinking the world needs to adopt the sexist view you lot have (you fail to see just how much you have in common with Conservatives). Replacing objective definitions which are based in physical reality, with entirely subjective metaphysical claims, is not logical in any way, is not morally superior, and is demonstrably harmful, not least to female rights and protections, but also to practically anyone that buys into it as it warps people's perception of the underlying issues. It hinders people in their quest for individuation, creating this false narrative of them becoming more "authentic" when the total opposite is true, they believe they need validation from others in order to be happy etc. instead of being encouraged to find more inner strength and resilience with less reliance on how people see them. Demanding to be legally recognized as the opposite sex of what one is, is in no way shape or form more authentic than accepting the physical reality one is born into. To believe we as individuals can have 100% control over our identity in society, what we are seen as by others, in interaction with, and in relation to, society/the world/physical existence is a fool's errand, it is a delusional understanding of reality and existence. Now you know better
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  58.  @summerblade3790  Get Real! What do you think they mean when they say trans women are women? Science has already proven that All women are born female and all men are born male (ZERO exceptions), and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference, or costume-- making the use of cis/trans intellectually stunted and irrelevant. No one has proven that a man who wishes he were, or believes he's a woman is anything other than a man. Got anything??? You're only fooling yourself dude.
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  59.  @noritochip_97  As it turns out, there's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the use of 'cis', entirely irrelevant and useless. Now you know. They've gotten it totally wrong on gender. Gender, (there are 2 male, and female) that's it, refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Then, they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then they conflate gender with sexual preference. Then, they conflate males with females, fact with fiction and men with women. A woman isn't a personality, a social construct, a feeling, or a costume that a man can just put on or take off-- She's an adult, human, female. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman-- and that's being born female. For some reason, they seem unable to process that
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  60.  @willye0527  The self delete stats show the affirmation treatment is a horrible failure, at addressing underlying issues among this particular demographic compared to doing nothing. 88% desist according to a 20 year study and reaffirmed by another 15 year study
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  61.  @Mel-wn9gb  I know, I was reaffirming
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  62.  @monicadaniels784  Not much of a refutation. You come across like a petulant teen, making vapid comments for the sake of being seen. Up your game junior
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  63.  @jar768jake  Them being upset, because the world isn't fooled by their costumes, or willing to deny objective reality by being forced to participate in their LARP or cosplay contrary to objective reality isn't hate. The world doesn't owe them. What's an example of someone here trying to 'hurt human beings'-- to which you're referring, as opposed to those who advocate mutilation and sterilization in the name of caring and love?
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  64. Looking to see if anyone will or can justify the expectation that men, who call themselves 'trans women' have-- to be treated as though they're women, when they make a subjective gender identity claim. No one has been able or willing to articulate anything. Anyone???
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  65.  @Whateverxo56  All men are born male and all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes or costumes. Why should a man, regardless of his anxiety about his gender which was established at conception and was observed and documented at his birth, or his desire that reality were different, be treated as anything other than a man?? The inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you/they wished they were in your/their subjective imaginations, doesn't change reality. The main problem the trans activist's narratives have is that life is based in objective reality, and most people don't have difficulty deciphering reality from the trans imagination. What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that in the slightest. All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, costumes, fetishes or preferences. That you/they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's the inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you/they wished things were-- while failing to realize that your imagination doesn't impact the capacity for discernment of the vast majority to decipher reality from the trans imagination.
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  66.  @GingerBeanie  Happy people don't tend to self delete at the rates this demographic do. Just sayin Why should a subjective, unverifiable gender identity matter at all, in areas designated by biological sex? There's no hate involved in recognizing that a male in women's clothes is a male in women's clothes. Get Real The arguments just don't withstand scrutiny, because life is based in objective reality, and the trans imagination just doesn't override people's capacity for discernment. A man believing he's a woman, doesn't make him one. Take your time to process reality, for a change. Believing there is some "essence" specific to males or female as far as feelings go, that can manifest "in the wrong body", is akin to a religious belief, having faith in something that is impossible to prove or disprove. The thing is though, that no one on the "trans" side can actually even explain what this "essence" is, they can't even explain it to themselves yet have convinced themselves that the feeling they have means they "are in the wrong body" - without realizing that their discomfort simply stems from not realizing that they view conforming to sexist stereotypes as legitimate measures of manhood or womanhood. That is why every explanation given of WHY a male "can't be a man, but is instead woman" etc. relies upon listing stereotypical stuff, or, in some cases is completely abstract and refuses to actually provide any explanation of what they mean, simply stating they "know" that what they feel means what they say it does, even though they can't actually provide a definition of it. "It's hard to explain but I know I'm right" is an attitude one constantly comes up against - a religious faith in something they can't define. This idea that the terms "man" and "woman" carry all this baggage, sexist stereotypes, that people need to live up to or feel comfortable with is a complete fabrication coming from the "trans" side. You lot want a term to reflect aspects of your personality as well, you want to create more boxes to put people in, as you won't accept simply just being a man or a woman based on being born male or female (and reaching adulthood, obviously people are boys and girls before becoming men or women), but believe you need this "freedom of expression" to broadcast what sexist stereotypes you feel more comfortable with - thinking the world needs to adopt the sexist view you lot have. Replacing objective definitions which are based in physical reality, with entirely subjective metaphysical claims, is not logical in any way, is not morally superior, and is demonstrably harmful, not least to female rights and protections, but also to practically anyone that buys into it as it warps people's perception of the underlying issues. It hinders people in their quest for individuation, creating this false narrative of them becoming more "authentic" when the total opposite is true, they believe they need validation from others in order to be happy etc. instead of being encouraged to find more inner strength and resilience with less reliance on how people see them. Demanding to be legally recognized as the opposite sex of what one is, is in no way shape or form more authentic than accepting the physical reality one is born into. To believe we as individuals can have 100% control over our identity in society, what we are seen as by others, in interaction with, and in relation to, society/the world/physical existence is a fool's errand, it is a delusional understanding of reality and existence.
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  67.  @GingerBeanie  The self delete stats being so much higher than the general population, don't show the actions of happy well-adjusted individuals... Just sayin
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  68. You can't change your gender. You can only reject traditional gender roles by engaging in various levels of cosplay and LARPing. If sex and gender are independent, why should a male/man bother altering his primary sex characteristics to mimic the primary sex characteristics of a woman? Make it make sense if gender is merely a social construct, and independent from sex-- why not identify as a girl without going out of the way to alter your appearance to present as the stereotypical and objective primary sex characteristics of a female human the target????? Make it make sense
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  69.  quarlie1086  You've gotten it totally wrong on gender. Gender, (there are 2 male, and female) that's it, refers to the sex documented at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Then, you conflate gender and personality. Then, you conflate gender and gender roles. Then, you conflate gender with sexual preference and fashion. Then, you conflate males with females, fact with fiction and men with women, fact with fiction, and science with science-fiction and pseudo-science. A woman isn't a personality, a social construct, a feeling, a sexual preference, or a costume that a man can just put on or take off-- She's an adult, human, female. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman-- and that's being born female. Now you know better
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  70.  @TheBigJayAgenda  LOL... Not even close. Never will be either. That dude is unhinged
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  71. No, gender is determined at conception. Too many conflate gender (Biological fact-- there are only 2 male/female... that's it) with gender roles (Social constructs referring to the roles of males and females in society)
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  72.  @disaster4550  What do you think the word 'gender' in the term gender dysphoria is referring to? It seems they go to extensive lengths to alter their appearance to resemble that of the primary biological sex characteristics of the opposite sex, which doesn't actually make anyone that sex, and then operate as though it justifies them to access to areas and organizations designated for females-- It doesn't.
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  73.  @WillieManga  Poor thing... Nope, not even close. All trans men are born female, and they remain female for their stay on earth. All trans women are born male, and remain that way for their entire life span. The costumes don't alter anything and neither do their self-perceptions counter to objective reality.
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  74.  @WillieManga  Not a rebuttal of the facts. Try Again?
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  75.  @Mel-wn9gb  Sociopaths don't consider themselves culpable
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  76.  @maximeminassian6002  Transphobia is nothing but an attempt by trans activists, to use a toothless slur to smear those who challenge the incoherent claims of the trans-activist ideological narrative. Cis is a term used by trans activists, to pretend that there's another kind of woman, other than those born female, BUT-- there isn't. There is no h8 involved in recognizing that a man wearing a dress-- is a man. That's just being observant of objective reality. There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female, which makes the use of cis totally irrelevant and useless. There are people. People are male or female, respectively-- and they've been established historically going back to the beginning of recorded history. Segments of each present with various physical and psych disorders, some with Both. Gender: There are 2 male/female. Personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, & none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys). Gender roles All relate to the roles of people in society with respect to being male or female, and they vary from culture to culture, country to country, and society to society-- and they're long established and steeped in tradition. Quit conflating gender, gender roles, personality, and temperament as though they're synonymous-- They Aren't. Now you know better
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  77.  @TheRealToast0  I didn't stutter. All girls/women are born female, ALL boys/men are born male, and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, or costume. Gender roles, without exception, refer to the roles of males and females in society. Way too many conflate sex/gender with personality traits and gender roles as though they're synonymous--and they aren't, resulting in some very faulty conclusions for those who get that wrong
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  78.  @TheRealToast0  Good, then we won't have to contend with you whining about grammatically incorrect pronoun usage and participating in your LARP and cosplay, as though it were based in objective reality.
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  79.  @TheBigJayAgenda  Well that isn't very lady-like, dude
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  80.  @Mel-wn9gb  Then-- those men pretending to be that which they are not have no justification being granted access to women's private space.
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  81.  @Mel-wn9gb  Yup... The thing is, Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively-- which cross-culturally are long established. Too many conflate personality traits and temperament (neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate gender and with s3xu@l preference. Then, they conflate males with females, men with women, science with science-fiction and pseudo-science, and fantasy with reality. A woman isn't a social construct and she isn't a costume that a man can put on or take off. Women (ALL of them) are born female, making the 'cis' distinction entirely irrelevant and useless.
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  82. The arguments just don't withstand the scrutiny because life is based in reality, and the trans imagination just doesn't override people's capacity for discernment
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  83.  @ParakeetDSi  No, gender/sex is biological and is established at conception and is observed and documented at birth or before. Gender roles are social constructs, which refer to the roles of males and females in society. Gender: The status of being either male or female, and because the entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in his/her womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate him/herself). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender. Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;)
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  84.  @MagnificentMotif  No doubt the response you should expect in return, when whining about your preferred pronouns, when the rest of the world chooses not to indulge your LARP and cosplay??
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  85.  @Fre3r  No, definitely not. Women aren't social constructs, feelings, a personality, a fetish, a preference, or a costume. ALL women are born female
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  86.  @Cle-o  No, bathrooms in general, are designed and implemented based on biology, not subjective feelings. The problem you have is that life exists in objective reality and the trans imagination doesn't override the vast majority of people's ability to discern objective reality from fantasy
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  87.  @Loonathewolf123-x6e  Not a rebuttal. The objective reality that women are all born female and that men are all born male, and that their personality traits and temperament, fashion senses or particular fetishes don't alter their biology only seems to be confusing to you. I see you too, w/ your incoherent narratives and all, trans-activist cult agent provocateur. The problem you have with your narratives are that life is based in objective reality and the vast majority don't have difficulty deciphering reality from the trans imagination.
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  88. There are people. People are male or female... That's it. There are no trans people. Wishing you were the opposite sex/gender doesn't make it so.
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  89.  @Фор-ы3е  Who told you that? and...Why do you believe it's correct? There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female. A woman isn't a social construct, feeling, fetish nor a costume. Get Real Don't care if you listen to me or not. The vast majority of people reject the trans-activist ideological narratives, because they're not confused about reality vs the trans imagination, and it is they who need validation from us--Not the other way around. Cope Harder
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  90.  @TheDemonAscended  I want to see if there's a correlation between survivors being from 2 parent mother/father homes vs single father homes, vs single mother homes
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  91. He's unhinged to just about everyone else with a functioning prefrontal cortex too.
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  92.  @playercore7444  You seem triggered. All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference or a costume. Wake up
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  93.  @emeraldoregd5479  I ask the questions to see if I can find any integrity or intelligent signs of life from those who advocate the pro trans ideology to justify their claims, BUT, nothing yet. Got anything??? There's no hate involved in recognizing that a dude in a dress, is a dude in a dress. That's just being observant
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  94. ​ @emeraldoregd5479  Don't be obtuse. Yes, they are. The words man and woman refer to the adult stage of human development. All men are born male, all women are born female and the terms man and woman have existed since antiquity. Do you believe that spaces designated by gender/sex are referring to gender roles? Make it make sense I Don't care if you want to wear a dress, makeup, heels and a wig, get boob implants, have HRT and have your properly functioning genitalia removed surgically-- Feel free, but still a man. The justification for separating men and women in prison, showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, and sports teams/leagues seems to be confusing to trans activists. Whats the issue with it??? Justify and explain how eliminating women's private spaces and allowing men to encroach isn't misogyny? Your personality doesn't change your gender-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys. You can't change your gender. You can only reject traditional gender roles by engaging in various levels of cosplay and LARPing, or not. You could have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon, and it wouldn't make you a Klingon either. A dude with top and bottom surgery and wearing a dress is still a dude.
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  95.  @emeraldoregd5479  On the other hand, the following should be considered: Kenneth Zucker et Al 2021: 88 percent of trans women desisted after 20 years. 93% resorted to homosexuality vs affirmation treatment with a self delete rate nearly 10x's higher than the general population at nearly 40%, doesn't appear to be validating the 1% 'regret rate' claim-- as accurate (looks like a huge net loss to me, being that gays have a self-delete rate closer to the general population, at around 4% comparatively)-- in NO way justifies claims of affirmation-based treatment protocols as efficacious. Well, according to the analysis, data and conclusions of the studies I've seen, Happy people aren't overwhelmingly sui~*d@l, and those who are have a psych issue at play. Swedish study: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group. A 2020 academic study with a sample size of 372 respondents found that 40 percent of transgender people had attempted suicide. Similarly, in 2016, the National Transgender Discrimination Survey found that 41 percent of 6,450 respondents said they had previously attempted suicide. By comparison, the CDC found that in 2020, 0.36 percent of the population had attempted suicide. According to a 2022 survey by The Trevor Project, an LGBTQ+ suicide prevention organization, nearly 1 in 5 young people who identified as transgender or non-binary have attempted suicide. According to a 2019 UCLA School of Law- Williams Institute report on the thoughts and attempts of self deleting-- the Reports shows that The 2015 U.S. Transgender Survey (USTS), which is the largest survey of transgender people in the U.S. to date, found that 81.7 percent of respondents reported ever seriously thinking about suicide in their lifetimes, while 48.3 percent had done so in the past year. In regard to suicide attempts, 40.4 percent reported attempting suicide at some point in their lifetimes. Although the research literature to date agrees that transgender people are at an elevated risk of suicide thoughts and attempts, there is still much to learn about why transgender people are particularly at risk. Also, the conclusion of the Swedish study, which concluded that persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity-- than the general population. The findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group. When the rate of self deletes among the general population is 10x's lower, and when studies showing that up to 90% desist and end up gay, with only a 4% self delete rate by contrast, the results of affirmation-based treatment protocols are horrible by contrast, making it's justification questionable at best. Dr. Miriam Grossman, MD delivers a good dose of truth, regarding so-called "gender-affirming care" during a recent U.S. House Committee hearing. She speaks clearly, as a medical professional and debunks the notion that sex is "assigned at birth", clarifying that it's established at conception, and observed and documented at birth, or before. Dr. Grossman is board certified in child, adolescent, and adult psychiatry. The author of five books, her work has been translated into eleven languages. "Lost in Trans Nation: A Child Psychiatrist's Guide Out of the Madness" is her most recent book that explains the widespread devastation caused by transgenderism. Her medical practice focuses on gender-distressed young people and their parents. She believes that every child is born in the right body. Dr Grossman has been vocal about the capture of her profession by ideologues, leading to dangerous and experimental treatments on children and betrayal of parents. She has testified in Congress and lectured at the British House of Lords and the United Nations.
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  96.  @emeraldoregd5479  Also, Bottom line men cannot become women and women cannot become men. Suicidality Among Transgender Youth: Elucidating the Role of Interpersonal Risk Factors: "Data indicate that 82% of transgender individuals have considered killing themselves and 40% have attempted suicide, with suicidality highest among transgender youth. Using minority stress theory and the interpersonal theory of suicide, this study aims to better understand suicide risk among transgender youth. The present study examines the influence of intervenable risk factors: interpersonal and environmental microaggressions, internalized self-stigma, and adverse childhood experiences (ACEs), and protective factors: school belonging, family support, and peer support on both lifetime suicide attempts and past 6-month suicidality in a sample of transgender youth (n = 372). SPSS 22 was utilized to examine the impact of the independent variables on both suicidality and lifetime suicide attempt through two separate logistic regressions. Fifty six percent of youth reported a previous suicide attempt and 86% reported suicidality. Logistic regressions indicated that models for both lifetime suicide attempts and suicidality were significant." Long-term follow-up of transsexual persons undergoing sex reassignment surgery: cohort study in Sweden “Conclusions: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.” THAT is what I would consider an issue, and if you do not-- then you do you, while failing to realize that the supposedly efficacious claims, of affirmation-based treatment protocol advocates are entirely unjustified.
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  97. @xReaghan Not quite. NOT All males, born are born 'at birth', are human. A man is a human male who reaches the developmental stage of adulthood. You're Welcome
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  98.  @Bnoymoder  There is no internal feeling that is exclusive to men or women (or boys/girls), what makes anyone a man or a woman is being either male or female and reaching adulthood. Their sex and stage of physical maturity makes them men or women, not some "feeling" they have. Believing there is some "essence" specific to males or female as far as feelings go, that can manifest "in the wrong body", is akin to a religious belief, having faith in something that is impossible to prove or disprove. The thing is though, that no one on the "trans" side can actually even explain what this "essence" is, they can't even explain it to themselves yet have convinced themselves that the feeling they have means they "are in the wrong body" - without realising that their discomfort simply stems from not realising that they view conforming to sexist stereotypes as legitimate measures of manhood or womanhood. That is why every explanation given of WHY a male "can't be a man, but is instead woman" etc. relies upon listing stereotypical stuff, or, in some cases is completely abstract and refuses to actually provide any explanation of what they mean, simply stating they "know" that what they feel means what they say it does, even though they can't actually provide a definition of it. "It's hard to explain but I know I'm right" is an attitude one constantly comes up against - a religious faith in something they can't define. This idea that the terms "man" and "woman" carry all this baggage, sexist stereotypes, that people need to live up to or feel comfortable with is a complete fabrication coming from the "trans" side. You lot want a term to reflect aspects of your personality as well, you want to create more boxes to put people in, as you won't accept simply just being a man or a woman based on being born male or female (and reaching adulthood, obviously people are boys and girls before becoming men or women), but believe you need this "freedom of expression" to broadcast what sexist stereotypes you feel more comfortable with - thinking the world needs to adopt the sexist view you lot have (you fail to see just how much you have in common with Conservatives). Replacing objective definitions which are based in physical reality, with entirely subjective metaphysical claims, is not logical in any way, is not morally superior, and is demonstrably harmful, not least to female rights and protections, but also to practically anyone that buys into it as it warps people's perception of the underlying issues. It hinders people in their quest for individuation, creating this false narrative of them becoming more "authentic" when the total opposite is true, they believe they need validation from others in order to be happy etc. instead of being encouraged to find more inner strength and resilience with less reliance on how people see them. Demanding to be legally recognised as the opposite sex of what one is, is in no way shape or form more authentic than accepting the physical reality one is born into. To believe we as individuals can have 100% control over our identity in society, what we are seen as by others, in interaction with, and in relation to, society/the world/physical existence is a fool's errand, it is a delusional understanding of reality and existence.
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  99.  @TheBigJayAgenda  All men are born male, all women are born female and their anxiety about reality doesn't alter reality one bit. Neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, personality, preference or a costume
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  100.  @Mel-wn9gb  That isn't much of a refutation. There is no such thing as trans women. That's just another term used to describe confused men who LAPR and cosplay, portraying the stereotype of a caricature of a female. There are only males and females, which is why using the 'cis' prefix is entirely ridiculous. Now you know why
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  101.  @Mel-wn9gb  The rate of self-deletes, both prior to transition and after are astronomically high, with nearly identical results-- compared to the average and begs the questioning of the affirmation-based treatment protocols, as well as the ethics of those who promote, and perform those procedures
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  102.  @Pretty-Boy-Spencer  All men are born male, all women are born female ZERO exceptions-- making the use of the prefix cis/trans irrelevant and intellectually stunted.
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  103.  @hannahking6818  Trans women are broken males
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  104. Evidence??
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  105.  @evajohns3217  Um-- the most violent offenders are males, and their victims are mostly male by a significant margin. Critical thinking and analysis doesn't seem to be your forte'. Transphobia is nothing but an attempt by trans activists, to use a toothless slur to smear those who challenge the incoherent claims of the trans-activist ideological narrative. Cis is a term used by trans activists, to pretend that there's another kind of woman, other than those born female, and that there's another kind of man, other than those born male BUT-- there isn't. There is no h8 involved in recognizing that a man wearing a dress-- is a man. That's just being observant of objective reality. There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female, which makes the use of cis totally irrelevant and useless. There are people. People are male or female, respectively-- and they've been established historically going back to the beginning of recorded history. Segments of each present with various physical and psych disorders, some with Both. Gender: There are 2 male/female. Personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, & none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys). Gender roles All relate to the roles of people in society with respect to being male or female, and they vary from culture to culture, country to country, and society to society-- and they're long established and steeped in tradition. Too many are inappropriately conflating gender, gender roles, personality, and temperament as though they're synonymous-- but They Aren't, causing needless confusion. Now you know better
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  106. @YourRandomBAD Every culture and society in the world segregates all sorts of areas in society based on gender/sex for well-established reasons, in all sorts of areas including the locker rooms, showers, prisons, changing rooms, the fashion industry sales and marketing departments of EVERY designer and manufacturer, sports, the Draft, medicine and the like... Kind of a duh, but-- considering who I'm talking to... Just trying to help clarify things for you. You've still not articulated why society shouldn't segregate, and instead should abandon that rational, along with their long-standing and well-established societies and societal norms, and cultures, in favor of your societal prescription. Until you do, the expectation for them to do so, and embrace, affirm, accept and validate your world view seems rather unlikely All women are born female, and as you pointed out-- you believe gender identity and sex are separate, YET you haven't justified encroaching on things separated based on sex, as an entitlement. You haven't come close yet, to being able to justify the expectation that just because you present and identify in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must treat you as though you're the opposite sex. Got anything yet?? The world isn't your therapist and doesn't owe you special consideration. To expect it does, is the height of narcissism and arrogance. You have nothing justifying why participating in your therapy should be expected from random people around the world, beng that you aren't the center of the universe. Just sayin...
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  107.  @jackiguess700  Cope harder. Men cannot become women.
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  108. That's weird. Most gays and lesbians don't have difficulty deciphering the sex of their preferred partners
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  109.  @mobcrusher99  Get Real.
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  110.  @TheBigJayAgenda  Who told you that, and why do you believe they're correct? Men and women aren't social constructs, feelings, fetishes or costumes. You seem to be conflating gender roles and personality traits with sex/gender. That's a massive error, leading to extreme misunderstanding. No wonder you're so confused. Get Real
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  111.  @TheBigJayAgenda  Nope... The problem you have with your narratives are that life is based in objective reality, and most don't have difficulty deciphering reality from your LARP and cosplay
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  112.  @CramiumsCranium  The same inane comments from the low resolution thinkers in the peanut gallery get the same answers to correct their predictable comments... Reality is reality is reality. I'm not talking about your feelings about reality. A man with anxiety about his physical body is still a man. Cope Harder
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  113.  @foxmaminigun  LOL! Science has established the binary dichotomy of all mammals as male and female/ Why should a man, regardless of his anxiety about his gender (which was established at conception and was observed and documented at his birth), or his desire that reality were different, be treated as anything other than a man?? if a dude wants to dress up in a dress after he's decided to modify his appearance-- he's still a dude. I not saying he doesn't have the right to do that, or talking about my feelings about his choices. I'm just being observant of the fact that he did make those choices. Still a dude The inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you/they wished they were in your/their subjective imaginations, doesn't change reality. That's a major area that affirmation-based treatment fails because it fails to provide coping mechanisms to effectively contend with the adversity in life, which is inevitable. What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that in the slightest. All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, costumes, fetishes or preferences. That you/they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's the inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you/they wished things were-- while failing to realize that your imagination doesn't impact the capacity for discernment of the vast majority to decipher reality from the trans imagination. The problem you have with your ideological narratives is that life is based in objective reality, and most don't have difficulty deciphering the differences between reality and the trans imagination. A man in a dress is still a man A man with anxiety about his biology is still a man A man with an effeminate personality is still a man A man pretending to be a woman is still a man btw, Get a friend or a comfort pet or something. Your anti-social interpersonal cries for negative attention, are not earning you any acceptance or compassion. They're just you, making a spectacle of yourself, causing the divide your community alleges they wish to bridge. Cope harder, you fail to persuade
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  114.  @CramiumsCranium  Trans women are dudes with issues prancing around as though they're women without issues.-- Still dudes
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  115.  @CramiumsCranium  Well, that's not much of a refutation nor a rebuttal. You certainly haven't proven anything I've written is incorrect or inaccurate. No one has proven that a man who wishes he were, or believes he's a woman is anything other than a man. Got anything???
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  116.  @CramiumsCranium  You can't change your gender. You can only reject traditional gender roles by engaging in various levels of cosplay and LARPing, or not. You could have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon, and it wouldn't make you a Klingon either. A dude with top and bottom surgery and wearing a dress is still a dude, regardless of his desire to be a woman-- he's not and can't ever be, is the point you can't escape
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  117. Seems like it's then better to be a male
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  118.  @angelinalaso1910  The point is there is NO transitioning... Men cannot become the opposite sex and neither can women... Only various degrees of altering one's appearance, which in no way entitles men w/ psych issues to be in the girl's showers
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  119.  @Sentient-potato  Trans women are men with issues prancing around as though they're women without issues--Still men
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  120.  @TheBigJayAgenda  He's an unhinged dude with issues. There's only one kind of woman, and they're ALL born female.
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  121. LOL!!! Trans women are men with issues, pretending to be women without issues. Regardless of the facts, an irrational thought process lacks the capacity to come to intelligent conclusions. They've gotten it totally wrong on gender. Gender, (there are 2 male, and female) that's it, refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Then, they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then they conflate gender with sexual preference. Then, they conflate males with females, fact with fiction and men with women. A woman isn't a personality, a social construct, a feeling, a sexual preference, or a costume that a man can just put on or take off-- She's an adult, human, female. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman-- and that's being born female.
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  122.  @WillieManga  The truth matters. They've gotten it totally wrong on gender. Gender, (there are 2 male, and female) that's it, refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Then, they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then they conflate gender with sexual preference. Then, they conflate males with females, fact with fiction and men with women. A woman isn't a personality, a social construct, a feeling, or a costume that a man can just put on or take off-- She's an adult, human, female. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman-- and that's being born female. For some reason, they seem unable to process that. Now you know
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  123. Every 'trans' person is performative. It's just mimicry.
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  124.  @playercore7444  Letting a delusional child call the shots isn't love. It's abuse and abandoning parental responsibility
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  125.  @bayonetta3525  The inability to cope with reality, is a psych issue. A woman isn't a feeling, a s3xu@l preference, or a costume that a man can put on or take off. They appear to self delete regardless of transitioning, at a rate significantly higher than the general population, and at a rate significantly higher than it was-- prior to implementing affirmation-based treatment protocols, begging the questioning of the efficacy and ethics involved with those who endorse and perform those procedures.
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  126. It's irrelevant and totally useless, considering that there is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female.
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  127.  @WillowTheGremlin  Not much of a refutation, or is that your suggested response to some hairy dude in a dress screaming, "It's MA'AM" when properly addressed as sir, rather than using their preferred pronouns which are objectively incorrect? Yours is like a response from a petulant 4 year old, having a tantrum when being told-- No. You're going to have to do better than that. You fail to persuade. That sound you're hearing is the sound of the vast majority of men and women rejecting your cult-narrative. Don't believe me... Verify with Budweiser, Target, and Disney
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  128. Why should a subjective, unverifiable gender identity matter at all, in areas designated by biological sex? There's no hate involved in recognizing that a male in women's clothes is a male in women's clothes. Get Real The arguments just don't withstand scrutiny, because life is based in objective reality, and the trans imagination just doesn't override people's capacity for discernment. A man believing he's a woman, doesn't make him one. Take your time to process reality, for a change. Believing there is some "essence" specific to males or female as far as feelings go, that can manifest "in the wrong body", is akin to a religious belief, having faith in something that is impossible to prove or disprove. The thing is though, that no one on the "trans" side can actually even explain what this "essence" is, they can't even explain it to themselves yet have convinced themselves that the feeling they have means they "are in the wrong body" - without realizing that their discomfort simply stems from not realizing that they view conforming to sexist stereotypes as legitimate measures of manhood or womanhood. That is why every explanation given of WHY a male "can't be a man, but is instead woman" etc. relies upon listing stereotypical stuff, or, in some cases is completely abstract and refuses to actually provide any explanation of what they mean, simply stating they "know" that what they feel means what they say it does, even though they can't actually provide a definition of it. "It's hard to explain but I know I'm right" is an attitude one constantly comes up against - a religious faith in something they can't define. This idea that the terms "man" and "woman" carry all this baggage, sexist stereotypes, that people need to live up to or feel comfortable with is a complete fabrication coming from the "trans" side. You lot want a term to reflect aspects of your personality as well, you want to create more boxes to put people in, as you won't accept simply just being a man or a woman based on being born male or female (and reaching adulthood, obviously people are boys and girls before becoming men or women), but believe you need this "freedom of expression" to broadcast what sexist stereotypes you feel more comfortable with - thinking the world needs to adopt the sexist view you lot have. Replacing objective definitions which are based in physical reality, with entirely subjective metaphysical claims, is not logical in any way, is not morally superior, and is demonstrably harmful, not least to female rights and protections, but also to practically anyone that buys into it as it warps people's perception of the underlying issues. It hinders people in their quest for individuation, creating this false narrative of them becoming more "authentic" when the total opposite is true, they believe they need validation from others in order to be happy etc. instead of being encouraged to find more inner strength and resilience with less reliance on how people see them. Demanding to be legally recognized as the opposite sex of what one is, is in no way shape or form more authentic than accepting the physical reality one is born into. To believe we as individuals can have 100% control over our identity in society, what we are seen as by others, in interaction with, and in relation to, society/the world/physical existence is a fool's errand, it is a delusional understanding of reality and existence.
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  129.  @Deuterocomical  He's confusing a lot of things. Gender/sex is established at conception via DNA and is biological. Gender roles are social constructs, referring to the roles of males and females in society.
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  130.  @ConnerTheCoyote  I already explained this to you elsewhere, and here you are feigning ignorance, for the sake of argument. Male and female are categories used to describe the two halves of the biological, binary dichotomy of all mammals. Wake up
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  131.  @therosbeyondgoat_mtg  Fun Fact: No, there is not. Quit conflating gender/sex (There are only 2 male/female), with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, and none are gender specific-hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys), and again with gender roles (vary by culture, country, and society- AND without exception, refer to the roles of males and females, in those cultures, countries, and societies), as though they're synonymous, and that's an error on your part.
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  132.  @TheBigJayAgenda  If by ton, you mean 2 (Male/female)... okay. Quit conflating gender/sex (There are 2 male/female... That's it) with gender roles (Social constructs referring to the roles of males and females in society), and personality traits (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) as though they're synonymous. It highlights your confusion, and snarky, loud and wrong isn't a good look for you
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  133.  @TheBigJayAgenda  BTW, You can't change your gender. You can only reject traditional gender roles by engaging in various levels of cosplay and LARPing, or not. You could have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon, and it wouldn't make you a Klingon either. A dude with top and bottom surgery and wearing a dress is still a dude, regardless of his desire to be a woman-- he's not and can't ever be, is the point you can't escape
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  134.  @yurienjoyer9000  There is only 1 kind of man, and they're ALL born male. Zero exceptions. A man isn't a feeling, a social construct or a costume that can be put on or taken off
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  135.  @MowMowCreations  You think women are a social construct, feeling, fetish, personality trait or a costume? There is absolutely nothing justifying the expectation that males who suffer from a DSM condition should be entitled to occupy areas and organizations designated for females. Got anything?
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  136.  @SA.1196  There seems to be some internalized misandry in your statement, Sir
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  137.  @MowMowCreations  The words man and woman have been used since the dawn of time, and there was no confusing the fact that the terms were related to the biology of the people discussed, not a gender identity claim-- as you seem to believe. How does this confuse so many nowadays? All women are born female, all men are born male and neither are a social construct, fetish, feeling, preference, or a costume
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  138.  @dsplays1  Reality isn't an anti-trans ideology. Trans is an anti-reality ideology
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  139.  @playercore7444  Who are you trying to convince? No one has proven that a man with severe anxiety about reality, his biology or wishing it were different is anything other than a man, yet the activists insist men claiming to be trans women-- ARE women, as if women were a social construct, rather than a biological category of the human species. That's demonstrably false. Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in his/her womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate him/herself). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender. Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;) Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex (There are only 2-- male/female... That's it) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles (without exception refer to the roles of males and females in society) as though they're synonymous and they are not. Science has already proven that the binary dichotomy of all mammals is male/female. A man in a dress is still a man A man with anxiety about his sex/gender-- still a man A man calling himself a woman-- still a man A man with an effeminate personality--still a man
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  140.  @dsplays1  You can't change your gender/sex. Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in his/her womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate him/herself). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender. Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;) Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex (There are only 2-- male/female... That's it) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles (without exception refer to the roles of males and females in society) as though they're synonymous and they are not. Science has already proven that the binary dichotomy of all mammals is male/female. A man in a dress is still a man A man with anxiety about his sex/gender-- still a man A man calling himself a woman-- still a man A man with an effeminate personality--still a man Seethe if you must, then just cope harder They haven't put forth no reasoning that withstands scrutiny, rendering their narratives and opinions as less than useless and therefore invalid. Their incoherent rants and invalid claims as valid, are a figment of their imagination. Reality isn't an anti-trans ideology. Trans is an anti-reality ideology, and they're the ones seeking affirmation, validation, and the participation of everyone in their larp and cosplay, based on the belief that their subjective delusions are based in reality. Newsflash: They aren't
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  141.  @WaaDoku  They said to get a hobby.
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  142.  @WillieManga  Your motives are irrelevant. Changing what you call a man or woman doesn't alter the nature of a man or woman. You can identify as a Klingon for all I care (I don't), and you can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon too, BUT-- that doesn't make you a Klingon, and anyone who suggests it does is FOS
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  143.  @WillieManga  What's heartless about recognizing that a man wearing a dress is a man? I told you that it is those who endorse affirmation-based treatment protocols who are not addressing the root issue, and are being heartless as they're willing for them to self delete-- by exhibiting questionable AT BEST ethics, evidenced by the extraordinarily high rate of self-deletes even after transition, compared to the general population-- but they got paid anyway, and considering that-- the claims of efficacy, by those like you that believe the course of treatment is efficacious at all, is totally unjustifiable, imo
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  144.  @Sentient-potato  There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female without exception.
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  145.  @Mel-wn9gb  No, you're discussing gender roles-- not gender. That said, ALL gender roles are social constructs revolving around being male or female-- in every culture, country and society in the world
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  146.  quarlie1086  You appear to have difficulty with objective reality.
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  147.  quarlie1086  There's no hate involved in recognizing that a man in a dress is still a man. That's just being observant of reality. Triggered and wrong aren't a great look for you.
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  148.  quarlie1086  Not much of a rebuttal. Prove your claims or you're just blowing bubbles
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  149.  quarlie1086  Cis and trans are terms used in chemistry, to denote the position of certain molecules-- in relation to others, and has nothing whatsoever to do with gender/sex
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  150.  @LetsGetBuildingOfficial  You seem to still be conflating gender with personality and gender roles as though they're synonymous-- and they aren't.
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  151.  @angelinalaso1910  Why should a subjective, unverifiable gender identity matter at all, in areas designated by biological sex?
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  152. Not a justification to expect that everyone in society is obligated to participate in, accept, or validate your cosplay/LARP as rational, reasonable, tolerable or based in objective reality. Definitely not a great way to persuade those who scrutinize your narratives as counter-culture lunatic fringe and not representative of the values of the societies with whom you seek to integrate, find acceptance, tolerance or validation of your trans narratives -- that your issues are valid. In what way is your gender identity objective and verifiable, and Why do you think that is relevant-- regarding spaces designated for, intended for and implemented for females, Not imaginary socially constructed identity claims (which only exist in the imagination), BUT rather are based on biology, which is based on objective reality? Make it make sense What are the objective aspects of being a woman? Got anything???
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  153.  quarlie1086  For what-- the trans-activist ideological narratives to become coherent? You're going to be waiting a long time
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  154.  @wintersong2266  Kenneth Zucker et Al 2021: 88 percent of trans women desisted after 20 years. 93 percent resorted to homosexuality. No one has proven that a man with severe anxiety about his biology, or wishing reality was different is anything other than a man... Do you have something proving otherwise?
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  155.  @blindbrad4719  Getting a tattoos and piercings in general, don't result in the person being sterilized and being removed from the gene pool
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  156.  @blindbrad4719  Then, they should quit whining about and insisting on my participation in their LARP and cosplay-- insisting on their grammatically incorrect preferred pronouns etc..., and leave me out of it
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  157. Because when it comes to personality traits and temperament, men tend to be less agreeable than women.
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  158.  @harperthegoblin  Seeing as the self-delete rate is WAY WAY higher than 1%, both pre transition and post transition-- I question the efficacy of affirmation-based treatment protocols
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  159. Correctional Service of Canada study has revealed that 44% of male-to-female transgender inmates are behind bars for s3xu@l offenses. The study — entitled Gender Diverse Offenders with a History of Sexual Offending — reveals a troubling pattern of violence among the convicted. Spanning the years 2017-2020, 99 gender-diverse inmates took part in the wide-ranging study designed to provide the CSC with a profile of this segment of the prison population. “We’ve known this all along,” former federal inmate and advocate Heather Mason told The Toronto Sun. “But I’m really surprised they did this study. It’s pretty damning.” Among the findings: — The vast majority, 85%, were convicted of violent crimes that caused death “or serious harm” to their victims (58% of whom were children or women). “It’s quite shocking. The study also shows that 41% of trans-women are in for homicide-related crimes while with male inmates it’s only 21%,” Mason said, adding that the study also revealed that in just four years, the number of trans inmates almost doubled. — Of the 99 inmate sample group, 44% of the trans women convicts are sex offenders. — 82% of gender-diverse offenders were trans-women with an average age of 42 years old and almost half were serving “indeterminate” sentences. — Two-thirds (66%) had low reintegration potential. About 64% of these offenders had committed a “current sexual offence,” while 88% had previously been convicted for sexual offences. About 94% committed their crimes while living as their biological sex. The study also found that 70% of the trans offenders with sex crime jackets were themselves the victims of childhood abuse. The study added: “Over 80% of gender-diverse offenders with sexual offence histories were trans-women. Sexual offending indicators showed that the majority of these offences were committed while living as their biological sex, and that the highest proportion of victims were children or female.” In addition, the majority of the “sub-group caused death or serious harm to their victim(s).” Hope that explains it clearly enough
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  160.  @MowMowCreations  Not a justification that males who make a subjective and unverifiable gender identity claim should be entitled to occupy areas and organizations designated for females. Do you have anything which does? 🦗🦗🦗
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  161.  @Junebuggly  No, it does not. Looks like it's you... conflating gender/sex with gender roles. You can't change your gender/sex. Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in his/her womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate him/herself). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender. Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;) Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex (There are only 2-- male/female... That's it) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles (without exception refer to the roles of males and females in society) as though they're synonymous and they are not. Science has already proven that the binary dichotomy of all mammals is male/female. A man in a dress is still a man A man with anxiety about his sex/gender-- still a man A man calling himself a woman-- still a man A man with an effeminate personality--still a man Seethe if you must, then just cope harder They haven't put forth no reasoning that withstands scrutiny, rendering their narratives and opinions as less than useless and therefore invalid. Their incoherent rants and invalid claims as valid, are a figment of their imagination. Reality isn't an anti-trans ideology. Trans is an anti-reality ideology, and they're the ones seeking affirmation, validation, and the participation of everyone in their larp and cosplay, based on the belief that their subjective delusions are based in reality. Newsflash: They aren't
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  162.  @Assassin6687  The stats show that Men are by FAR-- more often the victims and perpetrators of violence
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  163.  @kurtcobainsex  Don't conflate gender with gender roles as though they're synonymous-- that's an error. Seems like you view conforming to sexist stereotypes, as legitimate measures of manhood or womanhood. Bottom line is: spaces, and organizations focused on being designated for females, are done so, because of biology-- Not feelings or perceptions about it Replacing objective definitions which are based in physical reality, with entirely subjective metaphysical claims, is not logical in any way, it is not morally superior, and it is demonstrably harmful, not least of which to female rights and protections, but also to practically anyone that buys into it as it warps people's perception of the underlying issues. It hinders people in their quest for individuation, creating this false narrative of them becoming more "authentic"-- when the total opposite is true. They believe they need validation from others in order to be happy etc., instead of being encouraged to find more inner strength and resilience with less reliance on how people see them.
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  164.  @Pixel.Leaf12  None of that justifies the expectation that males who make a gender identity claim of being a woman are then entitled to occupy spaces designed for, implemented for, and designated for women based on biology-- Not some imaginary personality trait or feeling, or fashion, preference, fetish or anything other than biology
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  165. Quit conflating gender (Biology male/female) with gender roles (Social construct referring to the roles of males and females in society). They're not synonymous. Men cannot become women, and their gender identity disconnect w/ reality-- doesn't change that
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  166. @YourRandomBAD Your subjective gender identity isn't what makes you a man or a woman. It's your biology. Science has already proven that the binary dichotomy of all mammals is male/female. Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. 😊 Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in his/her womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate him/herself). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender. Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex (There are only 2-- male/female... That's it) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles (without exception are social constructs which refer to and define the roles of males and females in society) as though they're synonymous, and they are NOT- leading to lots of confusion.
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  167.  @TheBigJayAgenda  Ya, you did, and the 'because you said so' standard hasn't been issued any credibility. Do Better The problem you have with your narrative is life is based in objective reality, and most don't have difficulty deciphering reality from the trans imagination.
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  168.  @CramiumsCranium  No, if a dude wants to dress up in a dress after he's decided to modify his appearance-- he's still a dude. I not saying he doesn't have the right to do that, or talking about my feelings bout his choices. I'm just being observant of the fact that he did make those choices. Still a dude
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  169.  @potatos7078  You know what else isn't real? The notion that a man can become a woman or that a woman can become a man. A woman isn't a social construct. She isn't a feeling, or a costume that a man can put on or take off, or a s3xu@l preference. Women (ALL of them) are born female
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  170. There's no h8 involved in recognizing a man in a dress, as a man in a dress. That's just being observant of objective reality
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  171. To affirm a delusion, as though it's based in objective reality, isn't good.
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  172.  @WillieManga  If they don't have surgery, they're the equivalent of a cross dresser/Drag Queen-- Still a dude. If they do, they're a dude who self mutilated-- Still a dude Quit while you're behind junior
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  173.  @WillieManga  You're still whining. Give it a rest. I question the efficacy of affirmation-based treatment protocols based on the extraordinarily high rate of self-deletes, even after transition-- compared to the general population and on that basis, I also question the ethics of the 'professionals' who endorse and perform those treatments. You seem to have a reading comprehension deficit at play. Try reading again, only slower this time so you don't miss it again making an even bigger f00l out of yourself for gaslighting and creating a talking point over something I never said. My kid is in his 30's and is a happy, well-adjusted, successful and productive member of society. How many happy, well-adjusted, successful kids have you raised into adulthood, junior? Rhetorical
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  174.  @portraitsoftracy  He's drinking ALL the Kool-aide too
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  175.  @justadexdpup  That isn't science. It's science-fiction. A woman isn't a feeling, preference, or a costume that a man can put on or take off. Women (ALL of them) are born female.
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  176. Nope... Still a dude
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  177.  @froakachu8077  No one has proven that a man who wishes he were, or believes he's a woman is anything other than a man. Got anything???
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  178.  @foxmaminigun  No, it's a question. 'Why should you care'... Ask yourself. You're the ones seeking my participation in your LARP and cosplay, and affirmation and acceptance from others (Like me) with your pronouns etc. Why should a man, regardless of his anxiety about his gender (which was established at conception and was observed and documented at his birth), or his desire that reality were different, be treated as anything other than a man?? if a dude wants to dress up in a dress after he's decided to modify his appearance-- he's still a dude. I not saying he doesn't have the right to do that, or talking about my feelings about his choices. I'm just being observant of the fact that he did make those choices. Still a dude The inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you/they wished they were in your/their subjective imaginations, doesn't change reality. That's a major area that affirmation-based treatment fails because it fails to provide coping mechanisms to effectively contend with the adversity in life, which is inevitable. What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that in the slightest. All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, costumes, fetishes or preferences. That you/they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's the inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you/they wished things were-- while failing to realize that your imagination doesn't impact the capacity for discernment of the vast majority to decipher reality from the trans imagination. The problem you have with your ideological narratives is that life is based in objective reality, and most don't have difficulty deciphering the differences between reality and the trans imagination. A man in a dress is still a man A man with anxiety about his biology is still a man A man with an effeminate personality is still a man A man pretending to be a woman is still a man I recommend, getting a friend or a comfort pet or something. Your anti-social interpersonal cries for negative attention, are not earning you any acceptance or compassion. They're just you, making a spectacle of yourself, causing the divide your community alleges they wish to bridge. Cope harder, given the opportunity, you failed to make your case and failed to persuade. Congratulations, you played yourself
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  179. They're conflating gender/sex with personality, fashion, and gender roles as though they're synonymous.
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  180.  @Mel-wn9gb  🎯🎯
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  181.  @mrweybanana3210  No, it doesn't... * Sex/gender (There are only 2male/female... That's it) * Gender roles (refer to the roles of males and females in culture, society without exception) * Personality traits and temperament (Neither are gender exclusive--hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) Quit conflating gender/sex, w/ personality and gender roles as though they're synonymous. They are not Life is based in objective reality. The science shows the natural s3xu@l dichotomy of all mammals as being male/female. Humans are mammals, and they are male or female, respectively. That state is fixed and permanent. A man is an adult, human, male and a woman is an adult, human, female. How do you not know this? If you change the name of an apple to an orange, it doesn't alter the nature of an apple or an orange in any way, and the same is true when renaming a man something else-- like trans. It doesn't change the nature of the man. Dr. Miriam Grossman, MD delivers a good dose of truth, regarding so-called "gender-affirming care" during a recent U.S. House Committee hearing. She speaks clearly, as a medical professional and debunks the notion that sex is "assigned at birth", clarifying that it's established at conception, and observed and documented at birth, or before. Dr. Grossman is board certified in child, adolescent, and adult psychiatry. The author of five books, her work has been translated into eleven languages. "Lost in Trans Nation: A Child Psychiatrist's Guide Out of the Madness" is her most recent book that explains the widespread devastation caused by transgenderism. Her medical practice focuses on gender-distressed young people and their parents. She believes that every child is born in the right body. Dr Grossman has been vocal about the capture of her profession by ideologues, leading to dangerous and experimental treatments on children and betrayal of parents. She has testified in Congress and lectured at the British House of Lords and the United Nations. Women are all born female, and men are all born male, which makes the use of cis/trans intellectually hollow and useless, since neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference or a costume. WAY TOO Many are conflating sex/gender (There are only 2 male/female, and segments of each present with various physical issues, some with psych issues, some with both-- none of which alter the fact that their biology is male or female) with gender roles (These vary from culture to culture, country to country and society to society, BUT-- they all (without exception) refer to the roles of males and females in those cultures, countries, and societies) and personality (There are a ton, and NONE are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) as if they're all synonymous, and they aren't. Now you know
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  182.  @WillieManga  The self delete rate being what it is, doesn't show affirmation treatment is efficacious or justifiable at all
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  183.  @WillieManga  Nah... They're more accepted than ever. They do that (I posit) because after they chop off their perfectly healthy body parts, they come face to face with the reality that what they believed was BS
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  184.  @WillieManga  Transphobe is a cult term, used by radical trans-activists, agent provocateurs, as well as the woefully ignorant to attempt to virtue signal. The problem you have with your virtue signaling, is the total lack of any actual virtue in any of your unhinged whinging. Yes, more accepted, evidenced by their flags being flown at various agencies like the WH and the UN, and the constant PR campaign by the MSM. You're upset because you're unaware of me discussing a facet of the topic such as not all transitions being surgical? I have, but my point is-- there are no trans humans. People are human and they are only male or female. That status is a biological one, and it's fixed and permanent. Cope Harder! Reality doesn't care about your feelings A woman isn't a social construct, feeling, personality, or a costume that a man can put on or take off. Quit conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender (There are 2 male/female... that's it), and gender roles which are long-established norms by the people who make up those societies, countries, and cultures-- and vary from culture to culture, country to country, and society to society-- and the ALL relate to the roles of males and females. Now you know
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  185.  @WillieManga  Cope Harder, and seethe if you must-- just know that your gaslighting and inability to decipher fact from fiction doesn't make you correct, and it definitely doesn't make me incorrect. Your approval isn't required. It's you, that requires the participation of others, in your LARP and cosplay. The problem you have, is that it requires that everyone deny objective reality. Good luck--You're going to need it. Your chances seems highly unlikely, considering that the vast majority of people reject what you're peddling as the intellectually bankrupt ravings of lunatics.
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  186.  @WillieManga  I don't want you to feel bad at all, but if you choose to process things through that lens-- that's all on you; but men, pretending that they're women are still men-- even if they really really believe it. You seem upset that I call it like it is. Again, another You problem Those 'scientists' already have peers who have given succinct rebuttals and stern warnings regarding affirmation based treatment. I question the efficacy of affirmation-based treatment protocols based on the extraordinarily high rate of self-deletes, even after transition-- compared to the general population and on that basis, I also question the ethics of the 'professionals' who endorse and perform those treatments.
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  187.  @WillieManga  Well, seethe if you must, then Cope Harder. Kenneth zucker et Al 2021 Watched transwomen, diagnosed, and after 20 years almost 90 percent desisted
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  188.  quarlie1086  I haven't seen one of your comments that's been correct yet.
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  189.  quarlie1086  I submit you either haven't read the scrutiny of your ideological narratives or you have a massive reading comprehension deficit at play. Which is it? Either way, you've certainly not presented any evidence that proves what I've written to be inaccurate or incorrect in any way. Your narratives just doesn't stand up to scrutiny. I argue that there's only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female. A woman isn't a social construct, a feeling or a costume.
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  190.  quarlie1086  There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. What are you talking about???
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  191.  @ihatey0y  A woman isn't a social construct, a feeling, a s3xu@l preference or a costume that a man can put on or take off. As it turns out-- women (ALL of them) are born female. Now you know better You could identify as a Klingon for all I care-- and I don't, BUT, you could choose to have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon, and it wouldn't make you one, and anyone who says it does is delusional. There are people. People are male or female, respectively-- and they've been established historically going back to the beginning of recorded history. Segments of each present with various physical and psych disorders, some with Both. Gender: There are 2 male/female. Personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, & none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys). Gender roles All relate to the roles of people in society with respect to being male or female, and they vary from culture to culture, country to country, and society to society-- and they're long established and steeped in tradition.
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  192.  @ihatey0y  Men cannot become women, and women can't become men. Get Real
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  193.  @ihatey0y  There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female, making the use of cis irrelevant and useless.
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  194.  @firetube8288  I literally posted the definition of respect for you, and your inability to comprehend it, is a you problem. Civility isn't the same as respect. Being civil to someone is not the same as showing them respect. It's a matter of acting out of self-respect. I don't advocate going out of the way to be rude, but affirming a delusion as though it's based in reality isn't a matter of showing respect. Acting with a sense of self-entitlement, men who are claiming a subjective gender identity, claiming to be women-- operating as though showers, changing rooms, sports leagues/teams are designated 'mens' or 'womens' isn't a matter of a subjective gender identity claim... and that women just need to accept them doesn't look like respect is a consideration at all from where I'm sitting. It's a matter of biology. Kind of a duh... How is that confusing for you?
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  195.  @firetube8288  Um, no they don't. A subjective gender identity claim can't be seen on a brain scan. Gender/sex is observable at birth or before; A subjective gender identity claim-- not so much. Why do you deny objective reality? I know, you said--"and no I won't be responding, just instigating and rubbing it in your proverbial face". You're just talking shit
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  196.  @thatsallfolks436  There is no such thing as trans women. That's just another term used to describe confused men who LAPR and cosplay, portraying the stereotype of a caricature of a female. There are only males and females, which is why using the 'cis' prefix is entirely ridiculous. Now you know why. Cope harder and seethe if you must.
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  197.  @TheBigJayAgenda  There are no trans people. People are male or female, respectively-- and their anxiety about the reality of their biology doesn't alter reality in the slightest. You certainly haven't proven that a man who wishes he were, or believes he's a woman-- is anything other than a man. Got anything???
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  198.  @transally1243  Correct, and that state is fixed and permanent. Men can't become women and vice versa. The trans clown act is indeed a clown act. Dudes who chop off their junk, pretending they're girls are just dudes who've chopped off their junk. Cope or not... It's true and nothing anyone says will change that
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  199. You just described civility and being polite, not respect. There is no such thing as trans women. That's just another term used to describe confused men who LAPR and cosplay, portraying the stereotype of a caricature of a female. There are only males and females, which is why using the 'cis' prefix is entirely ridiculous. Now you know why
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  200.  @CurrySalvatore-r1p  That doesn't justify males in places designated for females... You could have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon if you choose-- and it doesn't make you an actual Klingon or justify your expectation that everyone is obligated to pretend you are
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  201.  @summerblade3790  Yes, they are. Gender roles (A social construct referring to the roles of males and females in society) and gender aren't the same thing though
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  202.  @summerblade3790  You certainly haven't proven that a man who wishes he were, or believes he's a woman is anything other than a man. Got anything???
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  203.  @Pretty-Boy-Spencer  All women are born female, all men are born male and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference, subjective gender identity claim or a costume
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  204.  @PoliticalSins  🎯 Dude is a woman hating activist troll w/ zero integrity
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  205.  @GothQueerjackass  So are his guests
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  206. You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, and it doesn't make you a Klingon. Anyone who says it does is delusional or intellectually bankrupt
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  207.  @valeriavitale1290  There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female, making the use of cis/trans totally irrelevant and intellectually vacant
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  208.  @Mel-wn9gb  Well, not garden variety, though definitely with a skewed perception of reality-- on top of being sexist, narcissists
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  209.  @Mel-wn9gb  Not only that, but the level of hubris, and arrogance to expect that the world is obligated to deny objective reality and participate in the LARP and cosplay as though it's based in objective reality is off the charts ridiculous.
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  210. Believing there is some "essence" specific to males or female as far as feelings go, that can manifest "in the wrong body", is akin to a religious belief, having faith in something that is impossible to prove or disprove. The thing is though, that no one on the "trans" side can actually even explain what this "essence" is, they can't even explain it to themselves yet have convinced themselves that the feeling they have means they "are in the wrong body" - without realizing that their discomfort simply stems from not realizing that they view conforming to sexist stereotypes as legitimate measures of manhood or womanhood. That is why every explanation given of WHY a male "can't be a man, but is instead woman" etc. relies upon listing stereotypical stuff, or, in some cases is completely abstract and refuses to actually provide any explanation of what they mean, simply stating they "know" that what they feel means what they say it does, even though they can't actually provide a definition of it. "It's hard to explain but I know I'm right" is an attitude one constantly comes up against - a religious faith in something they can't define.
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  211. It is the trans-activists who's insistence that others-- who are already minding their own business, participate in their LARP and cosplay, by insisting on the grammatically incorrect use of pronouns, and with no regard for the displacement of women's privacy, which is at the root of how they push their agenda and make their business, Everyone's business.
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  212.  @xXTheEmoGirlXx  I just enjoy exposing and mocking the incoherent nonsense that they promote
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  213.  @WillieManga  Uh huh... To believe individuals can have 100% control over their identity in society, how they are seen by others, in interaction with, and in relation to, society/the world/physical existence is a fool's errand. It is a delusional understanding of reality and existence.
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  214. Gender: The status of being either male or female, and because the entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in his/her womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate him/herself). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender. Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;)
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  215. The arguments just don't withstand scrutiny, because life is based in objective reality, and the trans imagination just doesn't override people's capacity for discernment. Believing there is some "essence" specific to males or female as far as feelings go, that can manifest "in the wrong body", is akin to a religious belief, having faith in something that is impossible to prove or disprove. The thing is though, that no one on the "trans" side can actually even explain what this "essence" is, they can't even explain it to themselves yet have convinced themselves that the feeling they have means they "are in the wrong body" - without realizing that their discomfort simply stems from not realizing that they view conforming to sexist stereotypes as legitimate measures of manhood or womanhood. That is why every explanation given of WHY a male "can't be a man, but is instead woman" etc. relies upon listing stereotypical stuff, or, in some cases is completely abstract and refuses to actually provide any explanation of what they mean, simply stating they "know" that what they feel means what they say it does, even though they can't actually provide a definition of it. "It's hard to explain but I know I'm right" is an attitude one constantly comes up against - a religious faith in something they can't define.
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  216.  @WillieManga  Challenging the claims, and exposing the lunacy
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  217.  @WillieManga  No, exposing you as a overly-emotional, petulant, agent provocateur doesn't make me heartless. Your conclusion however, exposes that your shoe size dwarfs your IQ
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  218.  @Cle-o  That isn't much of a rebuttal. The problem with your virtue signaling is the total lack of integrity, substance, or virtue in any of your comments.
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  219.  @Bnoymoder  They've gotten it totally wrong on gender. Gender, (there are 2 male, and female) that's it, refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Then, they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then they conflate gender with sexual preference. Then, they conflate males with females, fact with fiction and men with women. A woman isn't a personality, a social construct, a feeling, or a costume that a man can just put on or take off-- She's an adult, human, female. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman-- and that's being born female. For some reason, they seem unable to process that
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  220.  @Starburst_Paws  How do you figure trans women are women, being that all women are human females, who've reached the age of adulthood, not some subjective social construct, identity, feeling, fetish, preference, or costume? You seem quite unclear on the definition of 'woman', and the scientific classification of human development that is unique to the female half of the binary sexual dichotomy of male and female for all mammals. The justification for separating men and women in prison, showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, the draft, and sports teams/leagues seems to only be confusing to you. Whats your issue with women having a right to privacy??? Well.... ??? Anything?? Justify and explain how eliminating women's private spaces and allowing men to encroach isn't misogyny on your part? Anything??? Why should everyone pretend that a man is anything other than a man, regardless of his attire, or feelings to the contrary? The world isn't your therapist
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  221. That dude is unhinged
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  222.  @Ribena59p  Trying to see if anyone could justify the expectation that anyone should treat a man w/ psych issues as though they were justified in the expectation that they were entitled to be in the girl's shower, and STILL-- nothing yet
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  223.  @nathanalbanese1472  You seem to be inappropriately conflating personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender and gender roles as though they're synonymous, and they are not.
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  224.  @nathanalbanese1472  Too many inappropriately conflate personality and temperament (There are a ton) with gender (There are 2 male/female... That's it). Then, they conflate gender a gender roles. Then, they conflate science with pseudo-science and science-fiction. Then, they conflate males with females, men with women, fact with fiction, and reality with fantasy.
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  225.  @catsukasa  Bud light's stocks tanking prove you wrong
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  226. @YourRandomBAD Your sophistry is rejected. Cope Harder. All women are born female, and as it's been pointed out-- you believe gender identity and sex are separate, so go ahead and justify encroaching on things separated based on sex, as an entitlement. You can't, so quit whining You haven't come close yet, to being able to justify the expectation that just because you present and identify in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must treat you as though you're the opposite sex. The world isn't your therapist and doesn't owe you special consideration. To expect it does is the height of narcissism and arrogance. You have nothing justifying why your whining should be taken seriously
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  227.  @WillowTheGremlin  You come across as a petulant teen. It's not a great look for you, and certainly doesn't make your case or prove anything I've written is incorrect. Cope Harder
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  228.  @TheBestShirt  What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, costumes, or preferences. That you/they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's your/their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you/they wished they were.
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  229.  @TheBestShirt  You conflate gender (There are 2 male/female... That's it!) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive hence-- effeminate males, butch females and tomboys). Then, you conflate gender, personality traits and temperament and gender roles (Socially constructed and without exception, refer to the roles of males and females) as though they're all synonymous-- and they aren't Then, you conflate fact with fiction, males with females, men with women and science-fiction and pseudo-science with actual science. It's not a mystery why you're so confused. You don't change the nature of a man by renaming/relabeling him 'trans' or anything else, in the same way that choosing to call an apple an orange doesn't change the nature of the apple nor the orange.
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  230. Evidence??
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  231.  @cyruscheng499  You incorrectly spelled observant.
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  232.  @zomzomino  There is no internal feeling that is exclusive to men or women (or boys/girls), what makes anyone a man or a woman is being either male or female and reaching adulthood. Their sex and stage of physical maturity makes them men or women, not some "feeling" they have. Believing there is some "essence" specific to males or female as far as feelings go, that can manifest "in the wrong body", is akin to a religious belief, having faith in something that is impossible to prove or disprove. The thing is though, that no one on the "trans" side can actually even explain what this "essence" is, they can't even explain it to themselves yet have convinced themselves that the feeling they have means they "are in the wrong body" - without realising that their discomfort simply stems from not realising that they view conforming to sexist stereotypes as legitimate measures of manhood or womanhood. That is why every explanation given of WHY a male "can't be a man, but is instead woman" etc. relies upon listing stereotypical stuff, or, in some cases is completely abstract and refuses to actually provide any explanation of what they mean, simply stating they "know" that what they feel means what they say it does, even though they can't actually provide a definition of it. "It's hard to explain but I know I'm right" is an attitude one constantly comes up against - a religious faith in something they can't define. This idea that the terms "man" and "woman" carry all this baggage, sexist stereotypes, that people need to live up to or feel comfortable with is a complete fabrication coming from the "trans" side. You lot want a term to reflect aspects of your personality as well, you want to create more boxes to put people in, as you won't accept simply just being a man or a woman based on being born male or female (and reaching adulthood, obviously people are boys and girls before becoming men or women), but believe you need this "freedom of expression" to broadcast what sexist stereotypes you feel more comfortable with - thinking the world needs to adopt the sexist view you lot have (you fail to see just how much you have in common with Conservatives). Replacing objective definitions which are based in physical reality, with entirely subjective metaphysical claims, is not logical in any way, is not morally superior, and is demonstrably harmful, not least to female rights and protections, but also to practically anyone that buys into it as it warps people's perception of the underlying issues. It hinders people in their quest for individuation, creating this false narrative of them becoming more "authentic" when the total opposite is true, they believe they need validation from others in order to be happy etc. instead of being encouraged to find more inner strength and resilience with less reliance on how people see them. Demanding to be legally recognised as the opposite sex of what one is, is in no way shape or form more authentic than accepting the physical reality one is born into. To believe we as individuals can have 100% control over our identity in society, what we are seen as by others, in interaction with, and in relation to, society/the world/physical existence is a fool's errand, it is a delusional understanding of reality and existence. Now, you know better.
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  233.  @zomzomino  :face-green-smiling::text-green-game-over: Quit conflating personality traits and temperament with gender and gender roles as though they're synonymous... They Aren't There's only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female. A male wishing he was a female, doesn't become female-- regardless of the extent to which he attempts to alter his appearance and convince others that he's female. A dude in a dress is still a dude, even if he believes that he's not. Now you know better
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  234.  @Pretty-Boy-Spencer  Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in his/her womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate him/herself). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender. Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;) Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex (There are only 2-- male/female... That's it) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles (without exception refer to the roles of males and females in society) as though they're synonymous and they are not. Science has already proven that the binary dichotomy of all mammals is male/female. A man in a dress is still a man A man with anxiety about his sex/gender-- still a man A man calling himself a woman-- still a man A man with an effeminate personality--still a man Seethe if you must, then just cope harder You/They haven't put forth no reasoning that withstands scrutiny, rendering your/their narratives and opinions as less than useless and therefore invalid. Your incoherent rants and claims of legitimacy, are figments of your imagination. Reality isn't an anti-trans ideology. Trans is an anti-reality ideology, and they're the ones seeking affirmation, validation, and the participation of everyone in their larp and cosplay, based on the belief that their subjective delusions are based in reality. Newsflash: They aren't
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  235.  @Zebastian5522  They do that regardless of transitioning, at a rate significantly higher than the general population, and at a rate significantly higher than it was prior to implementing affirmation-based treatment protocols, begging the questioning of the efficacy and ethics involved with those who endorse and perform those procedures.
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  236. ​ @Mel-wn9gb  Ya, I meant to comment to the guy arguing with you. Just elaborating a bit on the topic; Gender refers to the sex established at conception and is verified, documented and validated by the Doctor at birth-- or before. Too many seem to be conflating gender/sex with gender roles and personality traits and temperament as though they're synonymous--and they are not.
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  237.  @Mel-wn9gb  In need of better therapists. 😏
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  238.  @Sentient-potato  There's no fear in recognizing that a man in a dress is a man. That's just being observant.
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  239.  @Sentient-potato  No... gender/sex is biological and is established at conception and is observed and documented at birth or before. Gender roles are social constructs, which refer to the roles of males and females in society. Gender: The status of being either male or female, and because the entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in his/her womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate him/herself). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender. Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;)
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  240.  @TheDemonAscended  Yes, 40% self terminate--making the 1% regret rate, thrown around by those who advocate in favor or affirmation-based treatment , intellectually vacant. According to the analysis, data and conclusions of the studies I've seen, Happy people aren't overwhelmingly sui~*d@l, and those who are have a psych issue at play. Swedish study: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group. A 2020 academic study with a sample size of 372 respondents found that 40 percent of transgender people had attempted suicide. Similarly, in 2016, the National Transgender Discrimination Survey found that 41 percent of 6,450 respondents said they had previously attempted suicide. By comparison, the CDC found that in 2020, 0.36 percent of the population had attempted suicide. According to a 2022 survey by The Trevor Project, an LGBTQ+ suicide prevention organization, nearly 1 in 5 young people who identified as transgender or non-binary have attempted suicide. According to a 2019 UCLA School of Law- Williams Institute report on the thoughts and attempts of self deleting-- the Reports shows that The 2015 U.S. Transgender Survey (USTS), which is the largest survey of transgender people in the U.S. to date, found that 81.7 percent of respondents reported ever seriously thinking about suicide in their lifetimes, while 48.3 percent had done so in the past year. In regard to suicide attempts, 40.4 percent reported attempting suicide at some point in their lifetimes. Although the research literature to date agrees that transgender people are at an elevated risk of suicide thoughts and attempts, there is still much to learn about why transgender people are particularly at risk. Also, the conclusion of the Swedish study, which concluded that persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity-- than the general population. The findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group. When the rate of self deletes among the general population is 10x's lower, and when studies showing that up to 90% desist and end up gay, with only a 4% self delete rate by contrast, the results of affirmation-based treatment protocols are horrible by contrast, making it's justification questionable at best. Dr. Miriam Grossman, MD delivers a good dose of truth, regarding so-called "gender-affirming care" during a recent U.S. House Committee hearing. She speaks clearly, as a medical professional and debunks the notion that sex is "assigned at birth", clarifying that it's established at conception, and observed and documented at birth, or before. Dr. Grossman is board certified in child, adolescent, and adult psychiatry. The author of five books, her work has been translated into eleven languages. "Lost in Trans Nation: A Child Psychiatrist's Guide Out of the Madness" is her most recent book that explains the widespread devastation caused by transgenderism. Her medical practice focuses on gender-distressed young people and their parents. She believes that every child is born in the right body. Dr Grossman has been vocal about the capture of her profession by ideologues, leading to dangerous and experimental treatments on children and betrayal of parents. She has testified in Congress and lectured at the British House of Lords and the United Nations.
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  241. @YourRandomBAD Your sophistry is rejected. Cope Harder. All women are born female, and as you pointed out-- you believe gender identity and sex are separate, so go ahead and justify encroaching on things separated based on sex, as an entitlement. You can't, so quit whining You haven't come close yet, to being able to justify the expectation that just because you present and identify in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must treat you as though you're the opposite sex. The world isn't your therapist and doesn't owe you special consideration. To expect it does is the height of narcissism and arrogance. You have nothing justifying why your whining should be taken seriously
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  242.  @Starburst_Paws  All the hysterical crap you've been whining about, only exists in your imagination. How do you figure trans women are women, being that all women are human females, who've reached the age of adulthood, not some subjective social construct, identity, feeling, fetish, preference, or costume? You seem quite unclear on the definition of 'woman', and the scientific classification of human development that is unique to the female half of the binary sexual dichotomy of male and female for all mammals. The justification for separating men and women in prison, showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, the draft, and sports teams/leagues seems to only be confusing to you. Whats your issue with women having a right to privacy??? Well.... ??? Justify and explain how eliminating women's private spaces and allowing men to encroach isn't misogyny on your part? Anything??? Why should everyone pretend that a man is anything other than a man, regardless of his attire, or feelings to the contrary? Anything?? The world isn't your therapist and to expect it is absurd and asinine
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  243. @YourRandomBAD The same inane comments get the same answers. It's called consistency. Exposing the nonsense for being the nonsense that it is-- is a public service. Your inability and/or unwillingness to engage with the questions and scrutiny honestly with integrity says a lot about you and your arguments and it's not good. Do Better The problem you have with your virtue signaling, is the total absence of any actual virtue in any of your triggered, and irrelevant comments. I'm happily retired and I have no fear engaging you or your claims with honesty and integrity, and have clearly been doing so without any direct or honest responses from you and yours proving me incorrect or inaccurate in any way whatsoever, being the common theme. Quit whining. It's boring
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  244. @YourRandomBAD The thing is, It's you who are expecting the world and everyone in it to operate as though you're owed something. That's wrong! It is for you to make your case a compelling one, if you expect the participation and cooperation of others, and so far-- You fail to persuade. Science has already established that All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference, or costume, and that state is fixed and permanent as it is with every other mammalian species. Way too many (You included) conflate Gender/Sex (= Biology, there are only 2 male/female... That's it) with Gender Roles (Social Constructs referring to the roles of males and females in society). and again with personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) as though they're synonymous and they are Not. Male/Female are categories of the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species, which is fixed and permanent. That you aren't aware, is a YOU problem.
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  245. @YourRandomBAD Get Real. The trans clown act is indeed a clown act. Dudes who chop off their junk, pretending they're girls are just dudes who've chopped off their junk. Cope or not... It's true and nothing you say will change that
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  246.  @Sentient-potato  Your DNA literally organizes your physical body. DNA dictates the production of objective biological differences between males and females. 100% of the population is either male or female, even intersex people. If they have a Y chromosome, they are heterogametic and male. If not, they are homogametic and female. Personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive -- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), aren't synonymous with gender or gender roles. There is no internal feeling that is exclusive to men or women (or boys/girls), what makes anyone a man or a woman is being either male or female and reaching adulthood. Their sex and stage of physical maturity makes them men or women, not some "feeling" they have. Believing there is some "essence" specific to males or female as far as feelings go, that can manifest "in the wrong body", is akin to a religious belief, having faith in something that is impossible to prove or disprove. The thing is though, that no one on the "trans" side can actually even explain what this "essence" is, they can't even explain it to themselves yet have convinced themselves that the feeling they have means they "are in the wrong body" - without realizing that their discomfort simply stems from not realizing that they view conforming to sexist stereotypes as legitimate measures of manhood or womanhood. That is why every explanation given of WHY a male "can't be a man, but is instead woman" etc. relies upon listing stereotypical stuff, or, in some cases is completely abstract and refuses to actually provide any explanation of what they mean, simply stating they "know" that what they feel means what they say it does, even though they can't actually provide a definition of it. "It's hard to explain but I know I'm right" is an attitude one constantly comes up against - a religious faith in something they can't define. This idea that the terms "man" and "woman" carry all this baggage, sexist stereotypes, that people need to live up to or feel comfortable with is a complete fabrication coming from the "trans" side. You lot want a term to reflect aspects of your personality as well, you want to create more boxes to put people in, as you won't accept simply just being a man or a woman based on being born male or female (and reaching adulthood, obviously people are boys and girls before becoming men or women), but believe you need this "freedom of expression" to broadcast what sexist stereotypes you feel more comfortable with - thinking the world needs to adopt the sexist view you lot have (you fail to see just how much you have in common with Conservatives). Replacing objective definitions which are based in physical reality, with entirely subjective metaphysical claims, is not logical in any way, is not morally superior, and is demonstrably harmful, not least to female rights and protections, but also to practically anyone that buys into it as it warps people's perception of the underlying issues. It hinders people in their quest for individuation, creating this false narrative of them becoming more "authentic" when the total opposite is true, they believe they need validation from others in order to be happy etc. instead of being encouraged to find more inner strength and resilience with less reliance on how people see them. Demanding to be legally recognized as the opposite sex of what one is, is in no way shape or form more authentic than accepting the physical reality one is born into. To believe we as individuals can have 100% control over our identity in society, what we are seen as by others, in interaction with, and in relation to, society/the world/physical existence is a fool's errand, it is a delusional understanding of reality and existence. Now you know better
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  247.  @emeraldoregd5479  The world isn't your therapist, and affirming a disconnect as though it's based in reality doesn't provide a means to develop coping mechanisms to effectively deal with and process adversity, CLEARLY
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  248.  @emeraldoregd5479  How do you figure trans women are women, being that all women are human females, who've reached the age of adulthood, not some subjective social construct, identity, feeling, fetish, preference, or costume? You seem quite unclear on the definition of 'woman', and the scientific classification of human development that is unique to the female half of the binary sexual dichotomy of male and female for all mammals. The justification for separating men and women in prison, showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, the draft, and sports teams/leagues seems to only be confusing to you. Whats your issue with women having a right to privacy??? Well.... ??? Justify and explain how eliminating women's private spaces and allowing men to encroach isn't misogyny on your part? Anything??? Why should everyone pretend that a man is anything other than a man, regardless of his attire, or feelings to the contrary? Anything?? The world isn't your therapist and to expect it is-- is absurd and asinine
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  249. If they believe that they're taller than their actual height, does their active imagination make it so?
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  250.  @justadexdpup  Define, man
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  251.  @OldManLuffy  If as you believe, gender and sex are truly independent, why are trans people subscribing to a sexual stereotypical caricature of biological sex as their blueprint for how they present themselves???
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  252. @YourRandomBAD Do you believe that spaces designated by gender/sex are referring to gender roles? Make it make sense I Don't care if you want to wear a dress, makeup, heels and a wig, get boob implants, have HRT and have your properly functioning genitalia removed surgically-- Feel free, but still a man. The justification for separating men and women in prison, showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, and sports teams/leagues seems to be confusing to trans activists. Whats the issue with it??? Justify and explain how eliminating women's private spaces and allowing men to encroach isn't misogyny? ANYTHING??? Be relevant for a change and make your case, if you think you can
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  253.  @Bnoymoder  It's not possible for a man to transition into a woman or for a woman to transition into a man. They're engaging in extreme LARP and cosplay
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  254.  @Bnoymoder  I posit that most don't actually suffer with gender dysphoria, but rather are engaging in extreme LARP and cosplay, not dissimilar to goth 2.0 Personality, temperament, gender and gender roles aren't synonymous. Learn the differences
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  255.  @Bnoymoder  There are people. People are male or female... That's it. Wishing you were the opposite sex, doesn't make it so, and neither does dressing up in cosplay or LARPing as a caricature of the opposite sex/gender. Gender (There are 2 male/female... that's it). Gender roles (Vary from culture to culture, country to country and society to society-- BUT in every case, they refer to the roles of males and females in those cultures, societies, and countries, which happen to be long-standing and steeped in tradition. Personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), are being conflated with gender and gender roles as though they're synonymous-- BUT they aren't
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  256.  @Bnoymoder  No, all they do is alter their appearance and alter their natural body chemistry. You could have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon if you choose, and you could identify as a Klingon, but it wouldn't make you a Klingon, and anyone who says it does is delusional too. You could neuter your dog , paint his nails and make him wear a dress and it wouldn't make him a female dog. Just sayin... There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female. There is only 1 kind of man and they're ALL born male-- making the use of 'cis' totally irrelevant and useless. A woman isn't a social construct, a feeling or a costume that a man can put on or take off-- She's an adult, human, female.
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  257.  @Bnoymoder  Define woman, but don't use the definition? Uh huh Quit conflating sex/gender (There are 2 male/female... that's it) with personality and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive, which is why there are effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and gender roles (Which are long-established globally, and vary from country to country, culture to culture and society to society-- BUT they ALL refer to the roles of the males and females-- in those societies, cultures and countries), as though they're all synonymous. They aren't Changing the name of a person or a thing doesn't alter the nature of that person or thing-- Only the name changes. A dude in a dress who prances around and acts effeminate is still a dude. Calling him something else doesn't change that
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  258.  @Bnoymoder  Your permission isn't required for me to use the appropriate definitions I see fit, but I appreciate the endorsement to use the definition I am using regardless of your approval. DNA dictates the production of objective biological differences between males and females. 100% of the population is either male or female, even intersex people. If they have a Y chromosome, they are heterogametic and male. If not, they are homogametic and female. But you knew that because you've actually educated yourself on these conditions, right? 😲 You should quit while you're behind
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  259.  @CramiumsCranium  It's the objective sex characteristic that the people who say they're 'trans' opt to alter, seems like a sufficient reason to bring it up
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  260.  @DeliaESymbols  You certainly haven't proven that a man who wishes he were, or believes he's a woman is anything other than a man. Got anything???
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  261.  @somerando5814  They're not valid women. They're still men with issues. No one has proven that a man who wishes he were, or believes he's a woman is anything other than a man. Got anything???
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  262.  @olivesareoliver  Looks like that's a no... You haven't been able to find anything substantive to deal with the scrutiny of your narrative. Do better
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  263.  @MitsuyaChan  You can't change your gender. You can only reject traditional gender roles by engaging in various levels of cosplay and LARPing, or not. You could have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon, and it wouldn't make you a Klingon either. A dude with top and bottom surgery and wearing a dress is still a dude, regardless of his desire to be a woman-- he's not and can't ever be, is the point you can't escape Cope Harder
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  264.  @MitsuyaChan  Well, that's not very lady-like of you. If as you believe, gender and sex are truly independent, why are trans people subscribing to a sexual stereotypical caricature of biological sex as their blueprint for how they present themselves???
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  265.  @mewmere6069  Coming from a group of guys pretending to be Cinderella for attention, the confusion is not unexpected. You don't get a say about what the vast majority do or say-- in their own long-standing well-established communities, where YOU are trying to integrate, as it is they from whom you are appealing, for acceptance, affirmation, and validation.
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  266. Men cannot become women, and women cannot become men. You can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek, hire a fashion designer to make a Klingon uniform, then hire a make up artist to do your makeup perfectly, and it does not make you an actual Klingon-- and anyone who thinks it does is delusional
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  267.  @mobcrusher99  No, I'm not. Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively-- which cross-culturally are long established. Too many conflate personality traits and temperament (neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate gender and with s3xu@l preference. Then, they conflate males with females, men with women, science with science-fiction and pseudo-science, and fantasy with reality. A woman isn't a social construct and she isn't a costume that a man can put on or take off. Women (ALL of them) are born female, making the 'cis' distinction entirely irrelevant and useless. If what you allege were true, (it isn't)-- then there's ZERO justification to grant those men access into women's private spaces.
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  268.  @Mudconsumer1  Irony? No one has proven that a man with severe anxiety about reality, his biology or wishing it were different is anything other than a man, yet the activists insist men claiming to be trans women-- ARE women, as if women were a social construct, rather than a biological category of the human species. That's demonstrably false. Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in his/her womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate him/herself). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender. Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;) Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex (There are only 2-- male/female... That's it) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles (without exception refer to the roles of males and females in society) as though they're synonymous and they are not. Science has already proven that the binary dichotomy of all mammals is male/female. A man in a dress is still a man A man with anxiety about his sex/gender-- still a man A man calling himself a woman-- still a man A man with an effeminate personality--still a man
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  269.  @willye0527  Really? Feel free to post the peer review studies which invalidate the following: If sex and gender are truly independent, then why do trans women and trans men go through so many hoops to change their primary sex characteristics??? Well, according to the analysis, data and conclusions of the studies I've seen, Happy people aren't overwhelmingly sui~*d@l, and those who are have a psych issue at play. Swedish study: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group. A 2020 academic study with a sample size of 372 respondents found that 40 percent of transgender people had attempted suicide. Similarly, in 2016, the National Transgender Discrimination Survey found that 41 percent of 6,450 respondents said they had previously attempted suicide. By comparison, the CDC found that in 2020, 0.36 percent of the population had attempted suicide. According to a 2022 survey by The Trevor Project, an LGBTQ+ suicide prevention organization, nearly 1 in 5 young people who identified as transgender or non-binary have attempted suicide. According to a 2019 UCLA School of Law- Williams Institute report on the thoughts and attempts of self deleting-- the Reports shows that The 2015 U.S. Transgender Survey (USTS), which is the largest survey of transgender people in the U.S. to date, found that 81.7 percent of respondents reported ever seriously thinking about suicide in their lifetimes, while 48.3 percent had done so in the past year. In regard to suicide attempts, 40.4 percent reported attempting suicide at some point in their lifetimes. Although the research literature to date agrees that transgender people are at an elevated risk of suicide thoughts and attempts, there is still much to learn about why transgender people are particularly at risk. Also, the conclusion of the Swedish study, which concluded that persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity-- than the general population. The findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group. When the rate of self deletes among the general population is 10x's lower, and when studies showing that up to 90% desist and end up gay, with only a 4% self delete rate by contrast, the results of affirmation-based treatment protocols are horrible by contrast, making it's justification questionable at best. Dr. Miriam Grossman, MD delivers a good dose of truth, regarding so-called "gender-affirming care" during a recent U.S. House Committee hearing. She speaks clearly, as a medical professional and debunks the notion that sex is "assigned at birth", clarifying that it's established at conception, and observed and documented at birth, or before. Dr. Grossman is board certified in child, adolescent, and adult psychiatry. The author of five books, her work has been translated into eleven languages. "Lost in Trans Nation: A Child Psychiatrist's Guide Out of the Madness" is her most recent book that explains the widespread devastation caused by transgenderism. Her medical practice focuses on gender-distressed young people and their parents. She believes that every child is born in the right body. Dr Grossman has been vocal about the capture of her profession by ideologues, leading to dangerous and experimental treatments on children and betrayal of parents. She has testified in Congress and lectured at the British House of Lords and the United Nations.
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  270.  @willye0527  The world isn't your therapist. Learn to cope w/ adversity in life. It's inevitable. Unfortunately, not all psych conditions are fixable, and as far as I know you can't unscramble an egg; so (In my opinion) when the self mutilation surgery proves not to do as promised, those who were previously prone to self harm, lose it. The 1% regret rate is laughable, as the people who you admit self-delete-- aren't counted. Hope that clears it up for you.
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  271.  @willye0527  Look, All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, preference, fetish or a costume. Your anxiety, preferences, imagination, wardrobe and feelings don't alter your gender at all.
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  272.  @ConnerTheCoyote  No, it's not... It's biological. Gender roles are social constructs and until you quit getting that wrong, your confusion will continue to have you making ignorant claims, without realizing it
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  273.  @cosygoose1813  There are no trans people. All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, personality, preference, nor a costume. Transphobe is a toothless cult term used to pretend there is another kind of woman other than those born female, but there isn't-- and is most often used to shut down speech, when the incoherence of the ideological claims are exposed and have no answer to the scrutiny of their claims.
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  274. @YourRandomBAD No need. How do you figure trans women are women, being that all women are human females, who've reached the age of adulthood, not some subjective social construct, identity, feeling, fetish, preference, or costume? You seem quite unclear on the definition of 'woman', and the scientific classification of human development that is unique to the female half of the binary sexual dichotomy of male and female for all mammals. The justification for separating men and women in prison, showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, the draft, and sports teams/leagues seems to only be confusing to you. Whats your issue with women having a right to privacy??? Well.... ??? Justify and explain how eliminating women's private spaces and allowing men to encroach isn't misogyny on your part? Anything??? Why should everyone pretend that a man is anything other than a man, regardless of his attire, or feelings to the contrary?
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  275. @YourRandomBAD It seems my 4 questions are proving too difficult for you and you have no answer, no sign of integrity to engage in good faith, and no justification. I think it's rather telling that none of the pro-trans activists or their cult followers do either
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  276. @YourRandomBAD Not an answer. Have you thought about trying to be relevant for a change? Do you believe that spaces designated by gender/sex are referring to gender roles? Make it make sense I Don't care if you want to wear a dress, makeup, heels and a wig, get boob implants, have HRT and have your properly functioning genitalia removed surgically-- Feel free, but still a man. The justification for separating men and women in prison, showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, and sports teams/leagues seems to be confusing to trans activists. Whats the issue with it??? Justify and explain how eliminating women's private spaces and allowing men to encroach isn't misogyny? You've got nothing so far... I predict more of the same. Prove me wrong HAHA... It isn't going to happen because I'm correct and you are not. You lost this argument before you engaged
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  277. @YourRandomBAD Hold your breath while waiting. I'm not trying to persuade you of anything. I am exposing your nonsense for being nonsense, and proving you have nothing to justify your claims as valid
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  278. @YourRandomBAD Some say opinions are like @-holes, everybody has one and... Others say, some opinions are more valuable than others, and they're correct. I say, opinions are like 0rg@sms, mine is more important than yours and I don't care if you have one or not. You're a creepy dude trying unsuccessfully, to justify infringing on women's rights. Feel free to dress however you like, just know that it doesn't create an obligation for anyone to pretend that you're not a male in a dress
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  279. @YourRandomBAD A man isn't anything other than a man because of a psych issue, subjective gender identity claim or because of wardrobe, selective chemical castration, bolt on boobs, or anything else.
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  280.  @RecRoomFocused  All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, preference, fetish or a costume. Your preferences don't alter your gender at all
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  281.  @CakesInThePan  The world doesn't owe it to them to deny objective reality to affirm their subjective feelings. It's not for society to rearrange itself for the vast vast minority of people w/ psych issues. It's for those people to develop social skills to help them integrate into society. Get it straight I couldn't care less if they want to have a surgeon alter their appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek. It doesn't make them one, and anyone who suggests it does is delusional or intellectually stunted. Women (ALL of them) are born female. Now you know better. Cope and seethe if you must-- but it won't change the nature of the universe.
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  282. They're denying the truth of objective reality and instead choosing to engage in LARP and cosplay
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  283. @YourRandomBAD You've not proven that a man with confusion about the reality of his anatomy, and who chooses to wear dresses is anything other than a man in a dress w/ issues. Got anything of substance??
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  284. @YourRandomBAD Do you have any proof that a man who identifies as a woman is anything other than a man? Answer: No, you don't. So save it.
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  285. @YourRandomBAD Cite the study... To assert that they've proven men can become women, isn't proof.
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  286. @YourRandomBAD No, you've listed organizations above, citing no studies whatsoever proving that a man can become a woman
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  287. @YourRandomBAD No, you haven't. That assertion isn't a conclusion contained in a peer-reviewed medical study proving men can become women. Next?
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  288. @YourRandomBAD Nope... That isn't a peer reviewed study proving a man can become a woman. If you're fooled by a dude in a dress, and think he's a woman, well-- that's you
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  289. @YourRandomBAD 'Normal'? It's not even 1 standard of deviation, being that 99.4% of the time gender/sex matches gender identity-- so, no... not even close to 'normal'. Try again?
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  290. @YourRandomBAD The 'because you said so' standard has been issued exactly zero credibility. Birth defects have occurred throughout history, that doesn't make them 'normal'. Think deeper thoughts
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  291. @YourRandomBAD Your because you said so' standard has been issued zero credibility, and is rejected. Your personality quirks and fashion choices aren't what make anyone a man or a woman, it's their biology. We will have to agree to disagree. I'm not buying what you're selling. You fail to persuade. If a dude in a dress is the 'woman' for you, go for it. Congrats, you're gay
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  292. @YourRandomBAD uh huh... The thing is, neither your acceptance, approval, acknowledgment, nor validation is required... I was never trying to persuade you to do anything other than justify your narratives against my scrutiny, and you failed to do so. No Worries That's you and yours, seeking validation for being something you wish you were, identify as, though you're not, from the rest of the majority of society, who aren't buying your narratives, and reject the expectation that their participation in your LARP and cosplay is required.
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  293. @YourRandomBAD Seethe if you must-- The trans clown act is indeed a clown act. Dudes who chop off their junk, pretending they're girls are just dudes who've chopped off their junk. Cope or not... It's true and nothing you say will change that
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  294. @YourRandomBAD That's okay... Your affirmation, acceptance, admission and validation aren't required. Your denial of the truth, doesn't invalidate the truth. If the 'woman' for you is a dude in a dress, congrats... You're gay, so...quit whining and go be happy already. sheesh...
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  295. @YourRandomBAD The truth stings sometimes... All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, subjective gender identity claim, feeling, fetish, preference nor a costume. You haven't justified having those men be granted authority to infiltrate women's only spaces and organizations. Do you think showers, locker rooms, prisons etc... are designated segregated Male/Female based on a subjective identity claims or biology? Get Real
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  296. @YourRandomBAD You believe that huh? LOL If You think women's only spaces and organizations are segregated as such, based on subjective gender identity claims vs biology then you have a comprehension deficit that fosters your misogyny
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  297. @YourRandomBAD Again-- As I've already told you, Not one of those 73 studies you're referring to prove a man can become a woman, and Until they do, ALL of your cult arguments are just whining and hot air. Dudes w/ psych issues have no business infiltrating women's only spaces and organizations, regardless of their beliefs, anxiety or claims about their gender identity. Your strawman arguments, sophistry, cult terminology and gaslighting are rejected as invalid
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  298. @YourRandomBAD You like to just make up BS as you go huh? No-- Gender Roles are Social Constructs referring to the roles of males and females in society. Gender/Sex is biological (There are only 2 male/female... That's it), and that state is fixed and permanent among ALL mammalian species. Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex (There are only 2-- male/female... That's it) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles (without exception refer to the roles of males and females in society) as though they're synonymous and they are not. Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. DEFINITIONS: Cf. “Sex”. Both terms (“Gender” and “Sex”) originate from Latin words: “Genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;) Get it straight (Pun intended)
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  299. @YourRandomBAD It establishes the origins and meanings of the words, showing that gender and sex are in fact synonymous, and always have been historically. You can choose to rename an apple 'lemon' if you choose, but it won't change the nature of an apple or a lemon. I reject your cult ideology and terminology. Sorry, not sorry
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  300. @YourRandomBAD Never said it was... The definitions, and ability to process the fact that the words man and woman date back into antiquity, and only seem to be confusing for you, and a small minority of humans on earth... You've clearly established that. There's not a biologist anywhere who would suggest that your subjective gender identity claim is what establishes your gender/sex, because it doesn't. Biology does, your problem with that is yours to have, but it changes nothing and doesn't validate your claims in anyway whatsoever.
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  301. @YourRandomBAD Sure... Cool Story Look If a dude in a dress is the 'woman' for you-- go for it. I really couldn't possibly care less. Still a dude You can pretend all you want. I have no issue with that. I identify as someone who doesn't have to participate in the LARP and cosplay, much less affirm it as valid. If some dude prancing around in a fairy princess costume, identifying as a fairy princess is (to you) a fairy princess... it means you're not too bright. Happy Halloween If a dude in a dress, identifying as a 'woman' is a 'woman' to you-- you're not too bright, not too observant of objective reality, and gay. So, go be happy
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  302. @YourRandomBAD Sure... sure... You have quite an active imagination. The answers to your inane cult comments and ideology don't change, and your inane comments don't establish truth or an obligation to accept as valid and participate in your LARP and cosplay, as though it's based in reality
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  303. @YourRandomBAD This is directly from the writer and tenured board member at WPATH, Ken Zucker: Not to mention the leaked wpath files showing doctors themselves do not think these kids are mentally mature enough to consent to the surgeries. Kenneth Zucker et Al 2021: 88 percent of trans women desisted after 20 years. 93% resorted to homosexuality vs affirmation treatment with a self delete rate nearly 10x's higher than the general population at nearly 40%, doesn't appear to be validating the 1% 'regret rate' claim-- as accurate (looks like a huge net loss to me, being that gays have a self-delete rate closer to the general population, at around 4% comparatively)-- in NO way justifies claims of affirmation-based treatment protocols as efficacious. Swedish study: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group. A 2020 academic study with a sample size of 372 respondents found that 40 percent of transgender people had attempted suicide. Similarly, in 2016, the National Transgender Discrimination Survey found that 41 percent of 6,450 respondents said they had previously attempted suicide. By comparison, the CDC found that in 2020, 0.36 percent of the population had attempted suicide. According to a 2022 survey by The Trevor Project, an LGBTQ+ suicide prevention organization, nearly 1 in 5 young people who identified as transgender or non-binary have attempted suicide. According to a 2019 UCLA School of Law- Williams Institute report on the thoughts and attempts of self deleting-- the Reports shows that The 2015 U.S. Transgender Survey (USTS), which is the largest survey of transgender people in the U.S. to date, found that 81.7 percent of respondents reported ever seriously thinking about suicide in their lifetimes, while 48.3 percent had done so in the past year. In regard to suicide attempts, 40.4 percent reported attempting suicide at some point in their lifetimes. Although the research literature to date agrees that transgender people are at an elevated risk of suicide thoughts and attempts, there is still much to learn about why transgender people are particularly at risk. Also, the conclusion of the Swedish study, which concluded that persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity-- than the general population. The findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group. When the rate of self deletes among the general population is 10x's lower, and when studies showing that up to 90% desist and end up gay, with only a 4% self delete rate by contrast, the results of affirmation-based treatment protocols are horrible by contrast, making it's justification questionable at best. You may believe wearing your Halloween princess costume makes you an actual princess, but you're only fooling yourself. It doesn't Did you see the Hillary Cass report? She is against early social transition because it puts the kids down a path of confusion … Why don’t trans activists listen ? Lol... YouTube “gender identity services in England - a cass review”. Cass called out the hypocrisy in the old diagnostic criteria … She asked for increased diagnostic criteria, she asked for the removal of the old pink/ blue system She wants increased treatment range to not include gender affirming care. AP- A major UK report says trans kids are being let down by toxic… “Dr. Hilary Cass said there is “no good evidence on the long-term outcomes of interventions to manage gender-related distress,” and young people have been caught up in a “stormy social discourse” about the issue.” Cass’ report, which runs to almost 400 pages, said that “for most young people, a medical pathway” is not the best way to deal with gender-related issues. “Cass said young people questioning their gender identity should be given “a holistic assessment” including screening for neurodevelopmental conditions such as autism, and a mental health assessment.” In her report, Cass said there was “no clear evidence” that social transition in childhood — such as changing names or pronouns — has any positive or negative mental health outcomes. “The report also concluded that there is no simple explanation for why the number of young people identifying as transgender has shot up in recent years in the U.K. and other countries.” 13:27 - conversation is about hormones. She says early social transition and medicalization greatly influence one into a path of surgical transition …. Just listen to her for a few minutes. Listen to 16:00 specifically for social transition. I agree with her This new study just published last month that I already listed “Risk of Suicide and Self-Harm Following Gender-Affirmation Surgery” Individuals who underwent gender-affirming surgery had a 12.12-fold higher suicide attempt risk than those who did not (3.47% vs. 0.29%, RR 95% CI 9.20-15.96, p < 0.0001). “Gender-affirming surgery is significantly associated with elevated suicide attempt risks, underlining the necessity for comprehensive post-procedure psychiatric support.” Doesn't look like efficacious results to me. It seems quite inadequate and unacceptable
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  304. @YourRandomBAD No, and historically, never has. You're just making up crap as you go huh? No, Quit conflating gender (There are only 2 male/female) with gender roles (which are the social constructs referring to the roles of males and females in society. They're not synonymous. Science has already established the fact that all mammalian species are categorized into a binary sexual dichotomy or male/female, and that -- That status is fixed and permanent. While you're at it, Quit conflating science with science-fiction, pseudo-science... It's got you all sorts of confused about everything
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  305. @YourRandomBAD I'm not writing it for you. I am having fun using it to expose your morally reprehensible misogyny though. You've still failed to justify why women should shut up and take it, when men-- who claim a subjective gender identity have special interests advocating they be granted the authority to infiltrate their 'women's only' spaces like locker rooms, changing rooms, showers, prisons, sports leagues/teams... Do you not realize that those places and organizations are not designated segregated based on subjective gender identity claims, but rather they're separated by biology/sex for a reason??? It's the height of misogyny to act like those men who you refer to as 'trans women' are somehow entitled to be treated as though they're the opposite sex.
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  306. @YourRandomBAD You either can articulate intelligent thoughts which lend credibility to your narratives or you can't. If and when you don't, either way-- you're not likely to sway the thoughts of those who the trans activists say they're wanting to appeal to for acceptance, affirmation, and validation. Brilliant You're sabotaging their agenda acting like a double agent trans activist agent provocateur. Never mind, you're just a troll making a spectacle of himself. I know... You need a friend
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  307. @YourRandomBAD Continue rejecting incoherent cult narratives, which exist in the imagination of troubled individuals-- as valid. Rejection-- You better get used to it
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  308. @YourRandomBAD No matter how many times you make that false allegation, like your incoherent trans narratives... Still not true and never will be true. Better get used to rejection, creep
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  309. @YourRandomBAD Nothing from you, substantiating your claims as valid
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  310. @YourRandomBAD No doubt what you hear often, when insisting on preferred pronouns and creeping in the girl's showers and locker rooms as though you were entitled-- but you're not, so you better get used to rejection and develop some coping mechanisms to help you cope harder
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  311. @YourRandomBAD There's no truth in you. Your projection is evident in your triggered mass posting of garbage. The expectation that anyone ought to treat men with issues, as though they're women is yet to be justified by you or anyone else. Cowards one and all
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  312.  @hannahking6818  Nope... ALL women are people of the sex associated with bearing offspring, are human, categorized as female, who reach the adult stage of human development. The attempt to redefine women is rejected, along with the cult terminology and worldview
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  313. A woman isn't a social construct dude. You can't change your gender, only the gender role you embrace. There is ZERO justification for males to occupy spaces and organizations designated to, designed for and implemented for females ie. girls/women (based on their biology-- Not some socially constructed gender identity claim)
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  314.  @BrontiThor  The vast majority reject your trans-activist ideological, cult narrative, because it's unhinged from objective reality. There is only one kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. They're not a social construct or a costume that a man can put on or take off. Take your time to process reality, then Cope Harder
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  315.  @thatnotsoaverageperson  The irony is HILARIOUS! The loud minority here are the trans-activists and those whom they supposedly represent. Developing coping mechanisms to deal with the adversity in life is Key. The universe doesn't owe you, and society isn't going to reorganize itself to accommodate your counter-culture leanings, or feelings of angst. It's for you to be able to integrate into society, not for society to coddle you. The notion that all of society must affirm your subjective sense of self, contrary to objective reality, then further requiring everyone's participation in your LARP and cosplay-- by denying objective reality, is ludicrous and totally arrogant.
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  316.  @BrontiThor  The average trans individual is a vast minority in everyday society, and if they wish to integrate into society it is they who need to adapt, is it not? It's not for society to coddle their subjective sense of self, as though it's based in objective reality, by denying reality and participating in their LARP and cosplay.
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  317.  @0hhhhhdeer  Huh? I would recommend, in the future-- being relevant
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  318. @YourRandomBAD The comment was asking why the content creators didn't do something. You don't come across as particularly bright.
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  319.  @andrejv.2834  If your identity requires that all of society must deny objective reality, and participate in your cosplay-- then that identity is invalid. it's pure fantasy and imagination.
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  320.  @harperthegoblin  You don't get anything. There's no fear in recognizing that someone who's presenting as something they're not. That's just being observant.
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  321.  @okthen4912  No his XY chromosomes do. It's why a trans man is still a woman, regardless of surgery
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  322.  @harperthegoblin  That isn't much of a refutation. A woman isn't a social construct, a feeling, or a costume that a man can put on or take off. Women, (ALL of them) are born female. Now you know
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  323.  @harperthegoblin  You seem triggered, with the temperament of a petulant teen. Not a good look, and doesn't make your case. You fail to persuade. Do Better
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  324.  quarlie1086  You don't speak for me or any one I know
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  325.  @MFV1222  No, He doesn't. They're an abomination
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  326.  @ambrosesky  There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female-- making the use of cis/trans totally irrelevant and useless.
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  327.  @Mel-wn9gb  🎯
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  328.  @mobcrusher99  Pretty sure the gay and lesbian community don't share your conclusions. They don't seem to have difficulty deciphering the differences between males and females
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  329. @YourRandomBAD Still a dude, just with an unnaturally altered appearance and body chemistry, prancing around pretending it means he's a 'she'
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  330. @YourRandomBAD None of those prove that a man with confusion about his gender is anything other than a man. I get it... You want to argue for sport. That's fine... You have no valid argument so far, anywhere. There is no such thing as trans gender. What actual science has established is that All mammalian species are of a binary sexual dichotomy of male and female, respectively and that state is fixed and permanent, including with humans. Your subjective gender identity isn't what makes anyone a man or a woman-- that's DNA/biology. Transgender is a term used by radical ideologues, which is a social construct, which in no way affects anyone's biology. All men are born male, all women are born female and neither is a social construct, feeling, fetish, personality trait or temperament, a preference or a costume, and neither become the other with a subjective gender identity claim and/or LARP or cosplay. Your entire narrative is incoherent, of course, you know and admit you're only trolling for sport-- trying to make the most absurd strawman arguments as possible, while you gish gallop all your sophistry and with all of that-- for what? tp still be wrong, as though wrong is the new right You need to make a friend
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  331. @YourRandomBAD What makes you think I wrote it for your benefit?
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  332.  @Brave-tamer  Neither you nor he have proven anything I've written is incorrect or inaccurate. Neither of you or anyone else for that matter, has justified the expectation that anyone ought to treat a dude in a dress as anything other than a dude in a dress. What are you on about?
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  333. @YourRandomBAD What you've written, because you're desperate for negative attention, is invalid and demonstrably false, where not irrelevant.
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  334.  @Brave-tamer  Just looking to see if anyone who's in favor of this ideological world view is able to justify why anyone would expect affirmation, acceptance and validation. So far, no one has
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  335.  @Brave-tamer  I have listed several peer reviewed studies, posted definitions, etc., validating what I've been saying and negating the claims of efficacy, calling into question the claims as efficacious in the process, and seeking the justification to expect my participation in the therapy, larp and cosplay as though it were based in reality, and the troll knows it.
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  336.  @Brave-tamer  Um, humans can't change their gender, and neither can any other mammal in the animal kingdom. Don't conflate gender with gender roles as though they're synonymous. They aren't. A subjective gender identity claim isn't what makes a man a man or a woman, a woman-- it's biology
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  337.  @Brave-tamer  Prove your claim about HRT and subjective gender identity claims. There is zero evidence to support that
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  338.  @Brave-tamer  Please be more specific. Too much to post in one post... Do YOU have anything proving that a dude in a dress is anything other than a dude in a dress, regardless of his subjective claims or cosmetic alterations, or justifying everyone's obligation to participate in their therapy? There's a lot from self delete prevention claims of efficacy with rates significantly higher than the general population and higher after transition. Studies from pubmed on why intersex does not invalidate the sex binary. To peer review studies showing that 90% of those who identified as 'trans' desist and revert to a gay life style. Additionally, Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in his/her womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate him/herself). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender. Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;) Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex (There are only 2-- male/female... That's it) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles (without exception refer to the roles of males and females in society) as though they're synonymous and they are not. Science has already proven that the binary dichotomy of all mammals is male/female. A man in a dress is still a man A man with anxiety about his sex/gender-- still a man A man calling himself a woman-- still a man A man with an effeminate personality--still a man He hasn't put forth any reasoning that withstands scrutiny, rendering the narratives and opinions as less than useless and therefore unjustified and invalid. The incoherent rants and claims of legitimacy, are figments of the imagination. Reality isn't an anti-trans ideology. Trans is an anti-reality ideology, and they're the ones seeking affirmation, validation, and the participation of everyone in their larp and cosplay, based on the belief that their subjective claims are based in reality. Newsflash: They aren't
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  339.  @Brave-tamer  ...Continued This idea that the terms "man" and "woman" are referring to subjective gender identity claims is demonstrably false dude, and carries all this baggage, sexist stereotypes, that people need to live up to or feel comfortable with is a complete fabrication coming from the "trans" side. Pro trans activists seem to want a term to reflect aspects of their personality-- as well. They want to create more boxes to put people in, as they won't accept simply just being a man or a woman based on being born male or female (and reaching adulthood, obviously people are boys and girls before becoming men or women), but believe they need this "freedom of expression", to broadcast what the sexist stereotypes they feel more comfortable with - thinking the world needs to adopt the sexist view they have. Replacing objective definitions, which are based in physical reality, with entirely subjective metaphysical claims, is not logical in any way, is not morally superior, and is demonstrably harmful, not least to female rights and protections, but also to practically anyone that buys into it as it warps people's perception of the underlying issues. It hinders people in their quest for individuation, creating this false narrative of them becoming more "authentic" when the total opposite is true, they believe they need validation from others in order to be happy etc. instead of being encouraged to find more inner strength and resilience with less reliance on how people see them. Demanding to be legally recognized as the opposite sex of what one is, is in no way shape or form more "authentic" than accepting the physical reality one is born into. To believe we as individuals can have 100% control over our identity or self-perceptions in society, how and what we are seen as by others, in interaction with, and in relation to, society/the world/physical existence is a fool's errand, it is a delusional understanding of reality and existence.
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  340.  @Brave-tamer  Correlates aren't proof. Brain scans of trans men and cis women showed zero structural differentials
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  341.  @Brave-tamer  Continued...: Here's 2: ** Su~*idality Among Transgender Youth: Elucidating the Role of Interpersonal Risk Factors: "Data indicate that 82% of transgender individuals have considered killing themselves and 40% have attempted suicide, with su~*idality highest among transgender youth. Using minority stress theory and the interpersonal theory of suicide, this study aims to better understand suicide risk among transgender youth. The present study examines the influence of intervenable risk factors: interpersonal and environmental microaggressions, internalized self-stigma, and adverse childhood experiences (ACEs), and protective factors: school belonging, family support, and peer support on both lifetime suicide attempts and past 6-month $u~*idality in a sample of transgender youth (n = 372). SPSS 22 was utilized to examine the impact of the independent variables on both $u~*idality and lifetime suicide attempt through two separate logistic regressions. Fifty six percent of youth reported a previous s~*cide attempt and 86% reported u~*idality. Logistic regressions indicated that models for both lifetime suicide attempts and $u~*idality were significant." ** Long-term follow-up of transsexual persons undergoing sex reassignment surgery: cohort study in Sweden “Conclusions: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.” THAT is what I would consider an issue, and if you do not-- then you do you, while failing to realize that the supposedly efficacious claims, of affirmation-based treatment protocol advocates are entirely unjustified.
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  342.  @Brave-tamer  Kenneth Zucker et Al 2021: 88 percent of trans women desisted after 20 years. 93% resorted to homosexuality vs affirmation treatment with a self delete rate nearly 10x's higher than the general population at nearly 40%, doesn't appear to be validating the 1% 'regret rate' claim-- as accurate (looks like a huge net loss to me, being that gays have a self-delete rate closer to the general population, at around 4% comparatively)-- in NO way justifies claims of affirmation-based treatment protocols as efficacious. Swedish study: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group. A 2020 academic study with a sample size of 372 respondents found that 40 percent of transgender people had attempted suicide. Similarly, in 2016, the National Transgender Discrimination Survey found that 41 percent of 6,450 respondents said they had previously attempted suicide. By comparison, the CDC found that in 2020, 0.36 percent of the population had attempted suicide. According to a 2022 survey by The Trevor Project, an LGBTQ+ suicide prevention organization, nearly 1 in 5 young people who identified as transgender or non-binary have attempted suicide. According to a 2019 UCLA School of Law- Williams Institute report on the thoughts and attempts of self deleting-- the Reports shows that The 2015 U.S. Transgender Survey (USTS), which is the largest survey of transgender people in the U.S. to date, found that 81.7 percent of respondents reported ever seriously thinking about suicide in their lifetimes, while 48.3 percent had done so in the past year. In regard to suicide attempts, 40.4 percent reported attempting suicide at some point in their lifetimes. Although the research literature to date agrees that transgender people are at an elevated risk of suicide thoughts and attempts, there is still much to learn about why transgender people are particularly at risk. Also, the conclusion of the Swedish study, which concluded that persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity-- than the general population. The findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group. When the rate of self deletes among the general population is 10x's lower, and when studies showing that up to 90% desist and end up gay, with only a 4% self delete rate by contrast, the results of affirmation-based treatment protocols are horrible by contrast, making it's justification questionable at best. You may believe wearing your Halloween princess costume makes you an actual princess, but you're only fooling yourself. It doesn't Did you see the Hillary Cass report? She is against early social transition because it puts the kids down a path of confusion … Why don’t trans activists listen ? Lol... YouTube “gender identity services in England - a cass review”. Cass called out the hypocrisy in the old diagnostic criteria … She asked for increased diagnostic criteria, she asked for the removal of the old pink/ blue system She wants increased treatment range to not include gender affirming care. AP- A major UK report says trans kids are being let down by toxic… “Dr. Hilary Cass said there is “no good evidence on the long-term outcomes of interventions to manage gender-related distress,” and young people have been caught up in a “stormy social discourse” about the issue.” Cass’ report, which runs to almost 400 pages, said that “for most young people, a medical pathway” is not the best way to deal with gender-related issues. “Cass said young people questioning their gender identity should be given “a holistic assessment” including screening for neurodevelopmental conditions such as autism, and a mental health assessment.” In her report, Cass said there was “no clear evidence” that social transition in childhood — such as changing names or pronouns — has any positive or negative mental health outcomes. “The report also concluded that there is no simple explanation for why the number of young people identifying as transgender has shot up in recent years in the U.K. and other countries.” 13:27 - conversation is about hormones. She says early social transition and medicalization greatly influence one into a path of surgical transition …. Just listen to her for a few minutes. Listen to 16:00 specifically for social transition. I agree with her This new study just published last month that I already listed “Risk of Suicide and Self-Harm Following Gender-Affirmation Surgery” Individuals who underwent gender-affirming surgery had a 12.12-fold higher suicide attempt risk than those who did not (3.47% vs. 0.29%, RR 95% CI 9.20-15.96, p < 0.0001). “Gender-affirming surgery is significantly associated with elevated suicide attempt risks, underlining the necessity for comprehensive post-procedure psychiatric support.” Doesn't look like efficacious results to me. It seems quite inadequate and unacceptable
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  343.  @Brave-tamer  "(2021, August 11). What does the scholarly research say about the effect of gender transition on transgender well-being?. What We Know." Well, We know the self-delete rates are higher among the trans population than the general population and higher than the gay population, and those rates don't seem to go down after surgery-- despite claims of satisfaction or reduced gender dysphoria, and that the rate is significantly higher than the general population, and that isn't exactly the results you'd find with happy well-adjusted individuals if affirmation-based treatment protocols were adequate or efficacious to a justifiable level. No Worries...
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  344.  @Brave-tamer  Study title: “Risk of Su~c~de and Self-H@rm Following Gender-Affirmation Surgery” Conclusions from the studies: "Individuals who underwent gender-affirming surgery had a 12-fold higher su~ci~de attempt risk, than those who did not" “Gender-affirming surgery is significantly associated with elevated su~c~de attempt risks, underlining the necessity for comprehensive post-procedure psychiatric support.”
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  345. @YourRandomBAD Says the creepy dude who preys on women and kids
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  346. @YourRandomBAD All you have are false claims and triggered rage
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  347.  @transally1243  That doesn't justify anyone taking you seriously or you being allowed in women's only spaces either-- creep, and you aren't justified Rejection-- Get used to it dude
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  348. @YourRandomBAD Just an observation-- You've failed to justify the appeals for validation, affirmation or acceptance as rational or reasonable, least of all made any compelling case for anyone's participation in the LARP/cosplay as though it was based in reality. Your triggered insults and false accusations are indicative of a small mind and a morally and ethics-free, bankrupt character
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  349. @YourRandomBAD Asking questions to clarify what doesn't make sense to me about your "LARP and activism" and articulating why your narratives seem incoherent-- isn't harassment or a LARP. Science has already established the fact that all mammals are of a binary sexual dichotomy of male/female and that state is fixed and permanent. Your difficulty with that and the fact that a subjective gender identity claim isn't what makes anyone a man or a woman is a you problem, that I unfortunately can't cure for you. Thanks for the invite, but I decline to participate in the cosplay and LARP as though it's based in reality. Happy Halloween though... fyi-- Your disguise doesn't fool anyone but you
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  350. @YourRandomBAD The dude creeping in the girl's locker room and showers-- projecting about his socially bankrupt pro-pedo activism. Can't make this shit up Thanks for the invite, but I decline to participate in the cosplay and LARP, as though it's based in reality. Happy Halloween though... fyi-- Your disguise doesn't fool anyone but you
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  351. @YourRandomBAD Happy Halloween... You look like a dude in a dress
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  352. @YourRandomBAD Nice projection
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  353. @YourRandomBAD Pdfiles like you have no moral foundation, and preying on girls and women as though you're entitled to, with no justification-- are the predators and misogynists.
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  354. @YourRandomBAD There's no truth in you. Your projection is evident in your triggered mass posting of garbage. The expectation that anyone ought to treat men with issues, as though they're women is yet to be justified by you or anyone else. Cowards one and all
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  355.  @TheBaconBean1  Yes, it's cosplay similar to goth 2.0
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  356.  @meillionen  And not entitled to occupy spaces or organizations designed for, designated for and intended for females. ✅
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  357. @YourRandomBAD I just read the entire article Carter, M. (2022, May 10). Trans women are (or are becoming) female: Disputing the endogeneity constraint: Hypatia. Cambridge Core. NOTHING conclusive in that entire article. NOTHING whatsoever obligating anyone to participate in the affirmation treatment program of random individuals nor justifying the expectation that men who call themselves trans women have-- to be treated as though they're women, when they make a subjective gender identity claim. No one has been able or willing to articulate anything. As a matter of fact, it states that, "The aim of this article has been to answer a very specific question; does the affirmation of trans women as women require the erasure of biological sex?"
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  358. @YourRandomBAD I don't think so... NONE of them-- Not a single one justifies the participation of everyone in the affirmation treatment process as a matter of entitlement. Your entire narrative is toxic BS. You gender identity claims aren't what make anyone a man or a woman-- it's a matter of biology that you have absolutely no say about. What you wish was true just isn't
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  359. @YourRandomBAD You're so mad... You have no justification for believing the nonsense you've been spewing, and you've presented no reason why anyone else ought to believe it, much less adhere to it. Still, you have nothing but talking crap
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  360.  @f9507yt  Looks like it's you... conflating gender/sex with gender roles. You can't change your gender/sex. Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in his/her womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate him/herself). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender. Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;) Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex (There are only 2-- male/female... That's it) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles (without exception refer to the roles of males and females in society) as though they're synonymous and they are not. Science has already proven that the binary dichotomy of all mammals is male/female. A man in a dress is still a man A man with anxiety about his sex/gender-- still a man A man calling himself a woman-- still a man A man with an effeminate personality--still a man Seethe if you must, then just cope harder They haven't put forth no reasoning that withstands scrutiny, rendering their narratives and opinions as less than useless and therefore invalid. Their incoherent rants and invalid claims as valid, are a figment of their imagination. Reality isn't an anti-trans ideology. Trans is an anti-reality ideology, and they're the ones seeking affirmation, validation, and the participation of everyone in their larp and cosplay, based on the belief that their subjective delusions are based in reality. Newsflash: They aren't
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  361.  @goldenknight6026  Looks like you're giving the middle finger to girls and women and their objections to dudes w/ psych issues skulking around in their showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, prisons, sports divisions/teams/leagues. Do you think those places are segregated based on some subjective gender identity claim??? No, they're not-- they're segregated based on biology. All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, a feeling, fetish, preference, or a costume. Feel free to wear a fairy princess costume, and identify as a fairy princess if you like, but if you believe it actually makes you a fairy princess, you're delusional
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  362.  @transally1243  So, that's a no, you have no reason to expect anyone validates your NPC narratives as valid... I know, I know... The truth can sting You're so mad... You have no justification for believing the nonsense you've been spewing, and you've presented no reason why anyone else ought to believe it, much less adhere to it
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  363.  @goldenknight6026  Why do you presume I'm annoyed? Bottom line is: restrooms, changing rooms, locker rooms, showers, sports leagues/teams/divisions, and prisons are designated segregated by gender for a reason, and they aren't established based on a subjective gender identity claim, rather on biology. No one has yet justified the expectation that women who object to men w/ psych issues in their women's only spaces---- should just be quiet and take it. Got anything justifying the expectation that all of society must participate in your affirmation treatment, by denying objective reality, as an obligation to you? You can choose to wear a fairy princess costume if you like, but it doesn't make you a fairy princess and those who think it does are delusional too. Feel free to dress like a woman Feel free to act as effeminate as it gets Feel free be straight or gay Just know that none of that entitles you to occupy the girl's showers, sports etc... because you're pretending you're one of them, or presenting as a stereotypical sexist caricature of a woman you're not. Hopefully, that clears it up for you... So, got anything to justify your expectation that everyone in society is obligated to pretend you're a woman???
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  364.  @f9507yt  Looks like it's you. Gender (There are 2 male/female... That's it). Gender roles are social constructs which serve as the roles of males and females in society. Bottom line is: restrooms, changing rooms, locker rooms, showers, sports leagues/teams/divisions, and prisons are designated segregated by gender for a reason, and they aren't established based on a subjective gender identity claim, rather on biology. No one has yet justified the expectation that women who object to men w/ psych issues in their women's only spaces---- should just be quiet and take it. So, Got anything justifying the expectation that all of society must participate in your affirmation treatment, by denying objective reality, as an obligation to you? You can choose to wear a fairy princess costume if you like, but it doesn't make you a fairy princess and those who think it does are delusional too. Feel free to dress like a woman Feel free to act as effeminate as it gets Feel free be straight or gay Just know that none of that entitles you to occupy the girl's showers, sports etc... because you're pretending you're one of them, or presenting as a stereotypical sexist caricature of a woman you're not. Hopefully, that clears it up for you... So, got anything to justify your expectation that everyone in society is obligated to pretend you're a woman???
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  365.  @MowMowCreations  Spaces designated for females are done so based on biology, not some gender identity claim. Get Real
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  366.  @WORLD_STXR  That sound you're hearing is the sound of men and women everywhere rejecting the incoherent, trans-activist ideological narrative for the madness that it is. Don't believe me... Verify with Budweiser, Target, and Disney
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  367.  @kyekruchoski1457  You can act in a gender role different than your physical gender, but genders (There are only 2). There's no h8 involved in recognizing that someone isn't that which they portray themselves. That's just a matter of being observant of objective reality
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  368.  @kyekruchoski1457  It didn't get in the way of me comprehending what you wrote, and responding. The point, matters more than spelling. Like I said, there's no hate involved in recognizing that a man in a dress is a man-- that's just being observant.
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  369.  @kyekruchoski1457  Being unable to cope with the fact that you wish you were a different sex/gender is by default, a psych issue illustrating at the very least-- a lack of an effective coping mechanism to deal with reality and adversity, when coming face to face with someone who recognizes that a man in a dress is a man in a dress, not a woman
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  370.  @Sweaterlatethannever  What? What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, nor preferences. Being unable to accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's your/their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you/they wished you/they were. Most people reject the trans activist narratives, LARP and cosplay as invalid... because they don't have difficulty deciphering reality from the trans imagination.
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  371.  @Sentient-potato  Reality vs delusion/LARP/cosplay is the difference
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  372.  @Sentient-potato  To see if anyone would engage with integrity re: the scrutiny of their narratives, and NOPE
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  373.  @TheBigJayAgenda  It isn't altering the reality that a dude will always be a dude, regardless of his anxiety about his reality of being born a dude
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  374.  @TheBigJayAgenda  Well, you haven't proven that a man with anxiety about his biology is anything other than a man yet. Got Anything??? I'm articulating my unwillingness to participate in your LARP and cosplay. Your arguments and narratives just don't withstand scrutiny, because life is based in objective reality, and the trans imagination just doesn't override people's capacity for discernment. Believing there is some "essence" specific to males or female as far as feelings go, that can manifest "in the wrong body", is akin to a religious belief, having faith in something that is impossible to prove or disprove. The thing is though, that no one on the "trans" side can actually even explain what this "essence" is, they can't even explain it to themselves yet have convinced themselves that the feeling they have means they "are in the wrong body" - without realizing that their discomfort simply stems from not realizing that they view conforming to sexist stereotypes as legitimate measures of manhood or womanhood. That is why every explanation given of WHY a male "can't be a man, but is instead woman" etc. relies upon listing stereotypical stuff, or, in some cases is completely abstract and refuses to actually provide any explanation of what they mean, simply stating they "know" that what they feel means what they say it does, even though they can't actually provide a definition of it. "It's hard to explain but I know I'm right" is an attitude one constantly comes up against - a religious faith in something they can't define.
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  375.  @BrontiThor  What are you talking about? They're advocating for hate speech laws for misgendering them. They're seeking recognition and acceptance for being something other than what they are in reality. Get Real
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  376.  @BrontiThor  Denial doesn't make you correct. It makes you FOS Bottom line is women aren't a social construct or a costume that a man can put on or take off. Women are all born female and men cannot become women and women cannot become men. Cope Harder
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  377.  @BrontiThor  Cope Harder. The Vast VAST majority of people everywhere reject the trans-activist ideological narrative as madness of the mind
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  378.  @italianbuffoon9953  Quit gaslighting... What makes you believe that I think that? I don't. There's no hate involved in recognizing that a man in a dress, is a man. That's just being observant. Quit your hysterical hyperbolic rhetoric
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  379.  @thatnotsoaverageperson  The 'Because you said so' standard is rejected, as woefully insufficient. You fail to persuade. Cope harder
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  380.  @confustled  Don't gaslight... I don't hate people. I hate BS. There is no hate involved in recognizing a man in a dress is a man. That's just being observant. Women (ALL of them) are born female.
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  381. @@MetalCrowd-je2bv I'm a retired Behavior Modification Specialist, who worked with the developmentally Disabled for Years-- Dear. You've not proven anything I've ever written to be incorrect. Facts are facts. How you perceive them isn't a matter of being heartless or not. It's you, not having an effective coping mechanism to deal with reality as it is, or the fact that the vast majority of people reject the trans-activist ideological narratives as utter nonsense, and are simply not willing to deny objective reality to massage your subjective feelings about your preferred paradigm of reality, as though you're the center of everything for everyone. You're Not. Not everyone is going to like you. Welcome to reality. People don't owe you respect. Respect is earned, and it's reserved for that which is respectable. If you wish to integrate into society, it's on YOU. Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable... That's why nations have borders
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  382.  @bayonetta3525  There is no h8 involved in recognizing that a man wearing a dress-- is a man. That's just being observant of objective reality. There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female, which makes the use of cis totally irrelevant and useless. There are people. People are male or female, respectively-- and they've been established historically going back to the beginning of recorded history. Segments of each present with various physical and psych disorders, some with Both. Gender: There are 2 male/female. Personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, & none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys). Gender roles All relate to the roles of people in society with respect to being male or female, and they vary from culture to culture, country to country, and society to society-- and they're long established and steeped in tradition. Quit conflating gender, gender roles, personality, and temperament as though they're synonymous-- They Aren't
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  383.  @Jesoysauce  I looked it up. A woman isn't a social construct, feeling or a costume that a man can put on or take off. There are people. People exist. People are human and they're either male or female... That's it. As it turns out, women (ALL of them) are born female, and men are all born male. Cis/trans, as best as I can tell, are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are. Why should all of society be required to deny objective reality and be compelled to participate in the LARP and cosplay-- as a matter of law, counter to objective reality???
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  384.  @luamist13  What do locomotives have to do with anything?
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  385.  @potatos7078  Is that the response that you would expect, regarding your preferred pronoun usage? If yes, I'm good with using that response the next time it comes up.
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  386.  @x-222--xsybau  Kinda??? That dude is unhinged from reality
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  387.  @playercore7444  They (those identifying as trans) seem to be asking for affirmation that their delusions are based in reality to validate their own existence. That's who
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  388.  @ConnerTheCoyote  Neither your anxiety about reality, your personality, your preferences, nor your fashion choices change your gender, and I suppose that might bug a group of guys pretending to be Cinderella for attention, but sometimes the truth stings. All women are born female, all men are born male (ZERO exceptions), and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, personality, or a costume. Now you know better. You're Welcome
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  389.  @ConnerTheCoyote  A female is a biological category referring to one half of the sexual binary dichotomy of ALL mammals.
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  390.  @ConnerTheCoyote  You believe a man can become a woman because... why? Personality? Fashion?? Cosmetic surgery?? You think men and women are social constructs?? If gender is just a social construct, why bother altering your appearance to resemble the primary biological characteristics of the opposite sex?? Your DNA literally organizes your physical body. DNA dictates the production of objective biological differences between males and females. 100% of the population is either male or female, even intersex people. If they have a Y chromosome, they are heterogametic and male. If not, they are homogametic and female. But you knew that because you've actually educated yourself on these conditions, right?
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  391.  @ConnerTheCoyote  Believing there is some "essence" specific to males or female as far as feelings go, that can manifest "in the wrong body", is akin to a religious belief, having faith in something that is impossible to prove or disprove. The thing is though, that no one on the "trans" side can actually even explain what this "essence" is, they can't even explain it to themselves yet have convinced themselves that the feeling they have means they "are in the wrong body" - without realizing that their discomfort simply stems from not realizing that they view conforming to sexist stereotypes as legitimate measures of manhood or womanhood.
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  392.  @Starburst_Paws  One is a biological anomaly and the other is a psych issue requiring therapy for treatment. Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in his/her womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate him/herself). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender. Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;) Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex (There are only 2-- male/female... That's it) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles (without exception refer to the roles of males and females in society) as though they're synonymous and they are not. Science has already proven that the binary dichotomy of all mammals is male/female. A man in a dress is still a man A man with anxiety about his sex/gender- due to GD- still a man A man calling himself a woman-- still a man A man with an effeminate personality--still a man You/They haven't put forth any reasoning that withstands scrutiny, rendering your/their narratives and opinions as less than useless and therefore invalid. Reality isn't an anti-trans ideology. Trans is an anti-reality ideology, and they're the ones seeking affirmation, validation, and the participation of everyone in their larp and cosplay, based on the belief that their subjective delusions are based in reality. Newsflash: They aren't If your identity is counter to objective reality, that's a You problem, when people recognize that you're not that which you present yourself as. People aren't going to deny objective reality to affirm your feelings or your subjective persona, and it's arrogant to expect that they should. The world doesn't revolve around you, so it would beneficial for you to develop some coping mechanism to be able to figure out how to fit in with the culture, as opposed to choosing a counter-culture approach and expecting everyone to participate in your cosplay cult.
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  393.  @Starburst_Paws  Also, intersex individuals are not asexual, but have clear sex biomarkers that makes their sex epistemically uncertain. The biological constitution of intersex individuals involves at least some typically male/female biological sex features in their genotype, phenotype, et cetera. Should we place biomarkers aside, it would not be clear what sex could mean. Second, intersex individuals are not hermaphrodites. There are two misunderstandings to be warded off, the first in terms of there being no cases of hermaphroditism in the sense of individuals who are fully biological males and females, and the second in terms of embryonic development. Beginning with the former, the reason why “hermaphroditism” is no longer used in medical nomenclature is that there are, simply speaking, no hermaphrodites. While having both XX and XY chromosomes is possible, this is not identical to hermaphroditism—for reasons we shall see later in the discussion of the definition of “sex.” 2 With respect to the latter, Orr's (2020) quotation of Intersex Genital Mutilations: Human Rights Violations of Persons with Variations of Sex Anatomy (2016), the NGO report to the 7th periodic report of France on the Convention Against Torture (CAT). In it, we find the following: Everybody started out as a hermaphrodite: Until the 7th week of gestation, every fetus has “indeterminate” genitals, two sets of basic reproductive duct structures, and bipotential gonads. Only after the 7th week of gestation, fetuses undergo sexual differentiation mostly resulting in typically male or female sex anatomy and reproductive organs. (p. 32). However, the potential, i.e., hence the use of “ bipotential”, to be male or female is not the same as actually being “between” (intersex) male and female. Bipotential gonads presexual differentiation are different than actual bigonads post-sexual differentiation. Consequently, bipotential gonads do not entail a period of hermaphroditism in prenatal human beings. Third and finally, Tudela et al. (2020) cite Arcelus et al. (2015) for a prevalence statistic for intersex conditions. The problem is that they cite a prevalence statistic of transsexual individuals, not intersex individuals—and they are different. Arcelus et al. (2015) defines “transsexual” as “individuals who experience discomfort or distress caused by the discrepancy between their gender identity and the sex they were assigned at birth.” (p. 3). This definition excludes at least two categories of intersex individuals, and consequently cannot be a reliable intersex prevalence statistic. First, it would exclude prenatal intersex individuals, e.g., through genetic screening can reveal whether a child has congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH) or androgen insensitivity syndrome (AIS), or during infancy. Second, it would exclude non-gender-dysphoric intersex individuals, and non-gender-dysphoric intersex individuals who did not receive surgery to change sexes. Consequently, even if intersex individuals met the definition of “transsexual” later in life, this prevalence statistic is unreliable. However, I hold that Tuleda et al.'s (2020) point still stands unscathed. Consider Sax's (2010) more reliable prevalence statistic of 0.018 percent. Sax's (2010) estimate carefully corrects Anne Fausto-Sterling's (and others’) statistic of intersex's prevalence being around 1.7 percent. Fausto-Sterling's statistic was based on a mistaken definition of intersex which would include Turner syndrome, Klinefelter syndrome, and late-onset adrenal hyperplasia. In none of these cases is their true intersex in which there is sexual uncertainty, i.e., these are not cases of genuine sexual ambiguity. As Sax (2010) points out in the 0.018 percent figure, the prevalence is nearly one hundred times lower than Fausto-Sterling suggested. Fourth (and relatedly), there are misunderstandings regarding the difference between being “sexually atypical” and being “intersex.” Consider Feder's (2014) remark that “the issue of “incidence” of atypical sex has been a vexed one, as it concerns not only the frequency with which children are born with atypical sex anatomies but also what counts as atypical sex.” (p. 211ff1, my italics). The idea here is that what it means to be intersex just is to have an atypical sex anatomy. There is a plausible case that “intersex” and “atypical sex anatomies” are not synonymous. Having an atypical sex anatomy might refer to the broader category of a difference in one's sexual anatomy, but it does not highlight the heterogeneous property of all intersex conditions: uncertainty with regard to one's sex. As Feder (2014) herself admits, the atypical sex anatomy of “hypospadias” (p. 211ff1) involve children “who are usually regarded as unquestionably male” (p. 211ff1). 3 However, if atypical sex anatomy does not make a sex-specific claim, i.e., saying something about sex identification, then it should not be used either as a placeholder for, or as a description of, intersex. Having warded off misunderstandings of “intersex”, I will now provide four arguments that “intersex” does not violate the sex binary. cais (intersex deformity) comes along with hermaphroditism btw Hope that helps
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  394. @YourRandomBAD You have no facts which prove me incorrect. Doesn't say a lot about you or your claims being valid
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  395. @YourRandomBAD Your triggered whinging certainly doesn't make your case valid nor persuasive. Got anything? A dude in a dress = a dude in a dress, regardless of his self-perceptions, or feelings to the contrary and there's no hate involved in recognizing it. That just makes me observant and your lack or anything proving me incorrect or inaccurate make you and your irrelevant. All women are born female, and as it has been pointed out-- the trans activists insist that gender identity and sex are separate, so can anyone justify encroaching on things separated based on sex, as an entitlement, or reason why things segregated based on sex like showers, locker rooms, sports, sports teams and prisons should not be segregated based on sex? While we're at it, is ANYONE able to justify the expectation that just because someone presents and identifies in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must then agree to and be obligated to treat them as though they're the opposite sex? Looking forward to seeing if anyone can justify why those expectations should be taken seriously, by anyone
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  396. @YourRandomBAD That's false, evidenced by extremists trying to make hate speech laws, insisting on the use of grammatically incorrect pronouns and acting entitled to violate women's rights to designate segregated areas and organizations for women only. Your dismissed. Rejection-- Get used to it
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  397. @YourRandomBAD You're a creepy dude trying unsuccessfully, to justify infringing on women's rights to establish women's only areas and organizations to themselves, because you're a misogynist. Feel free to dress however you like, just know that it doesn't create an obligation for anyone to pretend that you're not a male in a dress
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  398. @YourRandomBAD The thing is, It's you who are expecting the world and everyone in it to operate as though you're owed something. That's wrong! It is for you to make your case a compelling one, if you expect the participation and cooperation of others, and so far-- You fail to persuade. Science has already established that All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference, or costume, and that state is fixed and permanent as it is with every other mammalian species. Way too many (You included) conflate Gender/Sex (= Biology, there are only 2 male/female... That's it) with Gender Roles (Social Constructs referring to the roles of males and females in society). and again with personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) as though they're synonymous and they are Not. Male/Female are categories of the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species, which is fixed and permanent. That you aren't aware is a you problem.
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  399.  @EndTwo  Yup... That state is fixed and permanent as it is with all mammals. Get a clue
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  400. @YourRandomBAD Not much of a refutation or rebuttal.
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  401.  @tdog8600  That dude is a dude with issues, pretending that he's a woman without issues
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  402.  @memeintomori7161  I couldn't care less if they want to have a surgeon alter their appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek. It doesn't make them one, and anyone who suggests it does is delusional or intellectually stunted. Women (ALL of them) are born female. Now you know better. Cope and seethe if you must-- but it won't change the nature of the universe
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  403.  @thebuilder5271  Keep your cult to yourself. Trans women are MEN with issues, pretending that they're women without issues
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  404.  @chaotic_neutral1  He says while encouraging children at pride parades etc... gfy
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  405.  @Cronicry  I predict that isn't going to turn out the way you think it will
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  406.  @Cronicry  You come across like a petulant teen. Not a good look and certainly not persuasive
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  407.  @badischeente7322  You seem triggered, and it's Not a good look for you.
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  408. btw, a 40% self-delete rate, despite affirmation-based treatment, doesn't illustrate any justification any claims of efficacious results
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  409.  @CramiumsCranium  You haven't proven that a man with severe anxiety about the reality of his biology and wishing he were a woman, is anything other than a man. Got anything yet?
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  410.  @CramiumsCranium  The truth matters, and I don't have difficulty deciphering reality from the trans imagination, LARP or cosplay. The claims of efficacy of affirmation treatment are unjustifiable
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  411.  @Youre_toast  You haven't proven anything I've written is inaccurate or incorrect, and the 'because you said so' standard is rejected, as you haven't established any credibility. Cope Harder
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  412.  @Youre_toast  Kenneth Zucker et Al 2021: 88 percent of trans women desisted after 20 years. 93% resorted to homosexuality vs affirmation treatment with a self delete rate nearly 10x's higher than the general population at nearly 40%, doesn't appear to be validating the 1% 'regret rate' claim-- as accurate (looks like a huge net loss to me, being that gays have a self-delete rate closer to the general population, at around 4% comparatively)-- in NO way justifies claims of affirmation-based treatment protocols as efficacious. ”A study from researchers in the Netherlands found that nearly two-thirds of children who had wished that they belonged to the opposite sex as adolescents ultimately became comfortable with their biological sex in early adulthood. The 15-year study, which was conducted by researchers at the Netherlands’ University of Groningen, tracked the gender unhappiness rates of 2,772 study participants from ages 11 through 26.” ”All-cause and suicide mortalities among adolescents and young adults who contacted specialised gender identity services in Finland in 1996–2019: a register study “ They found zero significant difference in mental health while taking hormones or blockers
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  413.  @Youre_toast  You can't change your gender. You can only reject traditional gender roles by engaging in various levels of cosplay and LARPing, or not. You could have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon, and it wouldn't make you a Klingon either. A dude with top and bottom surgery and wearing a dress is still a dude, regardless of his desire to be a woman-- he's not and can't ever be, is the point you can't escape
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  414.  @mewmere6069  Stop it... There's no hate or anger involved in recognizing that a dude in a dress is a dude. That's just being observant
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  415.  @mewmere6069  More like realizing affirming their delusions as based in reality, didn't give them effective coping mechanisms to deal with reality, or adversity. Just saying trans women are women-- doesn't make it reality. Female is a biological category referring to one half of the sexual/reproductive binary dichotomy of ALL mammals, and Male is the other half. You seem to be looking for an argument, to displace your denial over a topic that's settled, where you've been proven wrong and dismissed with cause-- by reality. Seethe if you must, but it doesn't change anything. You lost this debate before it started. A man, presenting as, performing as, identifying as a woman doesn't then become a woman, is a reality that your arguments can't escape. Gender/sex = biology, there are only 2 male/female...that's it. Above, I posted the definition of gender/sex and dated back it's origins to help alleviate the confusion on the facts of the matter Gender roles= social constructs referring to the roles of males and females in society, which don't change anyone's gender. A dude in a dress is still a dude. I mean, a dude can dress in a fairy princess Halloween costume if he chooses, but it doesn't actually make him a fairy princess and it doesn't obligate everyone in society to pretend that he is. I think it's humorous when someone says sex and gender are different, as if that doesn't make the narrative even more absurd. People aren't social constructs. Trans however, is a social construct, and doesn't alter anyone's gender/sex, so the saying trans women are women is just wrong
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  416.  quarlie1086  Other studies show that if left alone, 90% end up becoming comfortable with their sex/gender and end up gay. Other studies show that the self-delete rate (post affirmation-based treatment including surgery) is still at nearly 40%, while the general population is closer to 4%. That rate is higher since the implementation of affirmation-based treatment, than it was prior-- all during a time when they're more accepted than ever, begging the questioning of the claims of efficacy considering the self-delete rates at 40% vs a 90% rate of someone getting over it and choosing to be gay; Looks like a net Loss. I mean, if it was known that 4 out of 10 parachutes were known to fail-- Smart people wouldn't be going skydiving, and would not be surprised if those who did, went splat
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  417.  quarlie1086  Really??? The conclusion of the following studies don't seem to lend any credibility to your claim, and the rates are still much much higher than the general population's rate-- so, Make of that what you will. Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, self termination behavior, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. "Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group." A 2020 academic study with a sample size of 372 respondents found that 40 percent of transgender people had attempted self termination. Similarly, in 2016, the National Transgender Discrimination Survey found that 41 percent of 6,450 respondents said they had previously attempted self termination. By comparison, the CDC found that in 2020, 0.36 percent of the population had attempted self termination. According to a 2022 survey by The Trevor Project, an LGBTQ+ suicide prevention organization, nearly 1 in 5 young people who identified as transgender or non-binary have attempted self termination. Try Again?? Also, Kenneth Zucker et Al 2021 Watched trans women, diagnosed, and after 20 years-- almost 90% desisted.
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  418.  quarlie1086  Surely, if it were possible to cure all psych illness and disorders-- there would be none. Alas, not all broken psyches of people are fixable-- and the answer isn't for the whole world's population to deny objective reality and pretend the LARP and cosplay is based in reality, for the sake of their feelings. Get Real! Think Again
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  419.  @GingerBeanie  No, not the same rate.
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  420.  @LWmusik  There is no hate involved in recognizing that a man in a dress is a man in a dress-- That's just being observant of objective reality. Your anxiety about not being perceived the way you prefer is not an obligation or an entitlement. Your lack of any direct good faith responses shows you to not be very reasonable, rational or forthcoming with persuasive rebuttals of the scrutiny of your narratives. Not an effective way to garner acceptance, understanding or validation from those with those who's societies with which you seek to integrate, who have established their own cultural norms, traditions, culture and laws, scrutinize your narratives as counter-culture fringe lunacy. Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable-- that's why sovereign nations have borders. -- Just sayin... Nothing in any of your comments justifies males occupying spaces and organizations designed for, designated for and implemented for females (based on biology) not some social constructs, imaginary metaphysical claims, gender identity claims or anything else
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  421.  @pentasis  Gender-- there are 2 male and female... That's it. Too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. Then, they conflate gender with gender roles. Then, they conflate gender with s3xu@l preference. Then, they conflate men with women, males with females, science-fact with science-fiction and pseudo-science, and fantasy with reality. A woman isn't a social construct, or a costume that a man can put on or take off. Women (ALL of them), are born female. Now you know better
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  422.  @zagotsweitza  Actually, African-American refers to ones citizenship status. Get a clue
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  423. Affirmation-based treatment protocols resembles able-ism-- like an identical twin resembles their sibling
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  424.  @BrontiThor  Yes. Affirming a delusion, as though it's based in objective reality isn't good. Would you affirm an anorexic's desire to lose more weight, by encouraging them to lose a few more pounds? I would hope not
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  425.  @BrontiThor  Not according to the studies that I've read. The conclusion of those studies, which I've attempted to post for you several times now, however am being censored are quite clear on the matter
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  426.  @BrontiThor  My question is still pending... Would you affirm an anorexic's desire to lose more weight, by suggesting they lose more weight?? I would hope not Would you affirm a schizophrenic's voices in their head telling them that they can fly off the roof top of a high rise, by telling them to go for it?? I would hope not I tried to post the study's, but am being censored. Look up Swedish study on trans su*~ide. BTW, your acceptance isn't required. I'm not trying to persuade you. It's the trans-activists who are whinging about preferred pronouns, expecting that all of society must deny objective reality and participate in their LARP and cosplay, as though it's based in reality. It's not complicated. Gender (There are 2 male/female). Too many conflate personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender and gender roles, as though they're synonymous, and they aren't. A woman isn't a social construct, a feeling, a s3xu@l preference or a costume that a man can put on or take off. Women (ALL of them are born female). Now you know
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  427.  @BrontiThor  People exist. They are male or female, respectively. That status is fixed and permanent. There are segments of each which present with various physical and psych disorders, NONE of which make it possible for a male to become a female or vice versa. There are no trans people. There are however, males w/ issues pretending that they're women without issues-- and women with issues, pretending that they're men without issues. Take your time to process reality
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  428.  @BrontiThor  Cope Harder, you're a dude and no amount of costume changes or surgery will change that
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  429.  @BrontiThor  I notice you didn't cite the conclusion of that Swedish study. What were they???
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  430.  @BrontiThor  You sound ridiculous. The conclusion is the well-reasoned judgement of the meaning of the summation of the study, by those who reviewed the data collected in the study. Does that really confuse you? Bottom line is the vast majority of people reject the trans-activist ideological narrative because the world is based in reality, not in the subjective imagination. Developing coping mechanisms to deal with the adversity in life is Key. The universe doesn't owe you, and society isn't going to reorganize itself to accommodate your feelings of angst. It's for you to be able to integrate into society, not for society to coddle you. The notion that all of society must affirm your subjective sense of self, contrary to objective reality, then further requiring everyone's participation in your LARP and cosplay by denying objective reality is ludicrous and totally arrogant.
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  431. It seems as though the trans activist expectation is, "I choose to live in your country, therefore you must follow our trans cult religion and abandon your culture, to adopt ours-- because we're entitled", and you're not, so if you expect acceptance, affirmation or validation, you better come up with something better than making self-entitled claims and acting like everyone is obligated to do as you wish
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  432.  @rafas3472  Unless you're discussing the plurality of multiple personalities, they is plural not singular
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  433.  @meillionen  Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;) Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex (There are only 2-- male/female... That's it) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles (social constructs--without exception refer to the roles of males and females in society) as though they're synonymous and they are not. Science has already proven that the binary dichotomy of all mammals is male/female. A man in a dress is still a man A man with anxiety about his sex/gender-- still a man A man calling himself a woman-- still a man A man with an effeminate personality--still a man Seethe if you must, then just cope harder They haven't put forth no reasoning that withstands scrutiny, rendering their narratives and opinions as less than useless and therefore invalid. Their incoherent rants and invalid claims as valid, are a figment of their imagination. Reality isn't an anti-trans ideology. Trans is an anti-reality ideology, and they're the ones seeking affirmation, validation, and the participation of everyone in their larp and cosplay, based on the belief that their subjective delusions are based in reality. Newsflash: They aren't
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  434.  @playercore7444  It doesn't drop... That's what you fail to comprehend. It remains 10x's higher than the general population
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  435.  @playercore7444  Kenneth Zucker et Al 2021: 88 percent of trans women desisted after 20 years. 93% resorted to homosexuality vs affirmation treatment with a self delete rate nearly 10x's higher than the general population at nearly 40%, doesn't appear to be validating the 1% 'regret rate' claim-- as accurate (looks like a huge net loss to me, being that gays have a self-delete rate closer to the general population, at around 4% comparatively)-- in NO way justifies claims of affirmation-based treatment protocols as efficacious. ”A study from researchers in the Netherlands found that nearly two-thirds of children who had wished that they belonged to the opposite sex as adolescents ultimately became comfortable with their biological sex in early adulthood. The 15-year study, which was conducted by researchers at the Netherlands’ University of Groningen, tracked the gender unhappiness rates of 2,772 study participants from ages 11 through 26.” ”All-cause and suicide mortalities among adolescents and young adults who contacted specialised gender identity services in Finland in 1996–2019: a register study “ They found zero significant difference in mental health while taking hormones or blockers
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  436.  @dsplays1  If sex and gender are truly independent, then why do trans women and trans men go through so many hoops to change their primary sex characteristics??? Well, according to the analysis, data and conclusions of the studies I've seen, Happy people aren't overwhelmingly sui~*d@l, and those who are have a psych issue at play. Swedish study: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group. A 2020 academic study with a sample size of 372 respondents found that 40 percent of transgender people had attempted suicide. Similarly, in 2016, the National Transgender Discrimination Survey found that 41 percent of 6,450 respondents said they had previously attempted suicide. By comparison, the CDC found that in 2020, 0.36 percent of the population had attempted suicide. According to a 2022 survey by The Trevor Project, an LGBTQ+ suicide prevention organization, nearly 1 in 5 young people who identified as transgender or non-binary have attempted suicide. According to a 2019 UCLA School of Law- Williams Institute report on the thoughts and attempts of self deleting-- the Reports shows that The 2015 U.S. Transgender Survey (USTS), which is the largest survey of transgender people in the U.S. to date, found that 81.7 percent of respondents reported ever seriously thinking about suicide in their lifetimes, while 48.3 percent had done so in the past year. In regard to suicide attempts, 40.4 percent reported attempting suicide at some point in their lifetimes. Although the research literature to date agrees that transgender people are at an elevated risk of suicide thoughts and attempts, there is still much to learn about why transgender people are particularly at risk. Also, the conclusion of the Swedish study, which concluded that persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity-- than the general population. The findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group. When the rate of self deletes among the general population is 10x's lower, and when studies showing that up to 90% desist and end up gay, with only a 4% self delete rate by contrast, the results of affirmation-based treatment protocols are horrible by contrast, making it's justification questionable at best. Dr. Miriam Grossman, MD delivers a good dose of truth, regarding so-called "gender-affirming care" during a recent U.S. House Committee hearing. She speaks clearly, as a medical professional and debunks the notion that sex is "assigned at birth", clarifying that it's established at conception, and observed and documented at birth, or before. Dr. Grossman is board certified in child, adolescent, and adult psychiatry. The author of five books, her work has been translated into eleven languages. "Lost in Trans Nation: A Child Psychiatrist's Guide Out of the Madness" is her most recent book that explains the widespread devastation caused by transgenderism. Her medical practice focuses on gender-distressed young people and their parents. She believes that every child is born in the right body. Dr Grossman has been vocal about the capture of her profession by ideologues, leading to dangerous and experimental treatments on children and betrayal of parents. She has testified in Congress and lectured at the British House of Lords and the United Nations.
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  437.  @dsplays1  It's not me that's wrong. The peer reviewed controlled studies I posted, haven't been invalidated. It shows an improvement with gender dysphoria, however mortality rates are still way too high to claim efficacious results, 88% desist are end up being gay, and the gay population has a self delete rate at around 4% compared to around 40%, looks like a net loss to me, re: claims of efficacy with gender affirmation treatment. Nonetheless, The problem with the trans activist's ideological narratives are most people don't have difficulty deciphering between reality and the trans imagination. All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, preference, fetish or a costume. A dude in a dress = a dude in a dress. No one has proven that a man with severe anxiety about reality, his biology, believing he's a woman trapped in a man's body, or wishing he was a woman is anything other than a man. Got anything?
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  438.  @playercore7444  You can find all sorts of confirmation biased uncontrolled ' survey studies' out there, but if as you say they're so happy, what's with all the whining about preferred pronouns about? Just, Be Happy You can't change your gender. You can only reject traditional gender roles by engaging in various levels of cosplay and LARPing. You avoided addressing my previous 2 questions, and so far have failed to persuade that a dude in a dress is anything other than a dude. His feelings to the contrary and his wardrobe or surgery don't alter that. If sex and gender are independent, why should a male/man bother altering his primary sex characteristics to mimic the primary sex characteristics of a woman? Make it make sense if gender is merely a social construct, and independent from sex-- why not identify as a girl without going out of the way to alter your appearance to present as the stereotypical and objective primary sex characteristics of a female human the target????? Make it make sense
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  439.  @dsplays1  That didn't answer my questions either. Being mean to you? REALLY??? That's not exactly the indicator of a well-balanced individual in the 1st place, but it occurs to me that it highlights that affirmation treatment protocols are woefully insufficient, and the stats showing a self delete rate 10x's higher than the general population isn't a justification for claims of efficacy. The world isn't your therapist, and owes you nothing. Reality isn't an anti-trans ideology. Trans is an anti-reality doctrine. There's no hate involved in recognizing that a dude in a dress is a dude. That's just being observant, and often-- that's referred to as 'being mean' and 'transphobic', etc. It's ridiculous Requiring the participation of everyone in the cosplay and LARP requires the denial of objective reality, and I don't think that the majority of the world with their long-standing and well-established cultural and societal norms should be expected to upend that because you can't cope with reality. To expect such a thing is the epitome of narcissism and arrogance highlighting a sense of self-entitlement that's off the charts and totally unustifiable
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  440.  @dsplays1  The problem you have is that you're wrong, so out of the gate, you've already lost the argument. Well, the trans self delete rate is 10x's higher than the general population, showing affirmation-based treatment protocols to be woefully inadequate, especially when compared and contrasted against the fact that nearly 90% desist and end up gay-- taking them from a 40% self delete rate, to a category which is closer to the general population's rate at around 4%. Why don't you care about THOSE people having better chance? It affects women by curtailing their privacy expectations against the prying eyes and presence of men in showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, dressing rooms, and in prisons where trans inmates have impregnated female inmates. Also, by impacting women's job opportunities, Scholarships, and enrollment opportunities. Also, I have female family and friends who I lookout for, and they agree with me-- Not you. Re: how does it impact me directly-- The trans community is persistently appealing to the majority to participate in the cosplay and LARP by insisting everyone deny objective reality and utilize grammatically incorrect pronouns, under threat. Hope that clears it up for you
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  441.  @playercore7444  Your sophistry is rejected. Cope Harder. All women are born female, and as you pointed out-- you believe gender identity and sex are separate, so go ahead and justify encroaching on things separated based on sex, as an entitlement. You can't, so quit whining You haven't come close yet, to being able to justify the expectation that just because you present and identify in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must treat you as though you're the opposite sex. The world isn't your therapist and doesn't owe you special consideration. To expect it does is the height of narcissism and arrogance. You have nothing justifying why your whining should be taken seriously
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  442. @YourRandomBAD You seem to have difficulty coming up with anything which proves me incorrect or inaccurate in any way whatsoever. Triggered and wrong are a terrible look for you junior
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  443.  @transally1243  No, science has already established the fact of the binary sexual dichotomy of all mammals. Your subjective gender identity isn't what makes you a man or a woman-- it's your biology. Now, you know better
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  444. @YourRandomBAD None of them have proven that a dude in a dress is anything other than a dude in a dress, so-- your entire ideological narrative doesn't get passed Go, do not collect $200. It's invalid.
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  445.  @dolofonosesostrefis  Like guys who wear a toupee and think it looks great and natural-- Don't be shocked when most realize you're still a man
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  446.  @ferris5358  Quit your whining! People choosing to use their own preferred pronouns when discussing you, instead of the grammatically incorrect ones you and yours insist on isn't for you to dictate. Also, quit displacing women in regards to their scholarships, sports, sports teams, dressing rooms, locker rooms, changing rooms, showers and prisons, and then reserving the right to allege it doesn't affect anyone in any way. It makes you look ridiculous
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  447. @@MetalCrowd-je2bv Get better therapist. Ask the one you have, if they graduated at the top or bottom of their class
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  448. @@MetalCrowd-je2bv I'm a retired Behavior Modification Specialist, dear. It was a suggestion, not an order. Triggered and snarky aren't a good look for you. To believe individuals can have 100% control over their identity in society, how they are seen/perceived by others, in interaction with, and in relation to, society/the world/physical existence-- is a fool's errand. It is a delusional understanding of reality and existence. 'Transphobia' is nothing but an attempt by trans activists, to use a toothless slur, to smear those who challenge the incoherent claims of the trans-activist ideological narrative. Cis is a term used by trans activists, to pretend that there's another kind of woman, other than those born female, and that there's another kind of man, other than those born male BUT-- there isn't. There is no h8 involved in recognizing that a man wearing a dress-- is a man. That's just being observant of objective reality. There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female, which makes the use of cis totally irrelevant and useless. There are people. People are male or female, respectively-- and they've been established historically going back to the beginning of recorded history. Segments of each present with various physical and psych disorders, some with Both. Gender: There are 2 male/female. Personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, & none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys). Gender roles All relate to the roles of people in society with respect to being male or female, and they vary from culture to culture, country to country, and society to society-- and they're long established and steeped in tradition. Too many are inappropriately conflating gender, gender roles, personality, and temperament as though they're synonymous-- but They Aren't, causing needless confusion. Now you know better
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  449. @@MetalCrowd-je2bv Really??? The conclusion of the following studies don't seem to lend any credibility to your claim, and the rates are still much much higher than the general population's rate-- so, Make of that what you will. Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, self termination behavior, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. "Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group." A 2020 academic study with a sample size of 372 respondents found that 40 percent of transgender people had attempted self termination. Similarly, in 2016, the National Transgender Discrimination Survey found that 41 percent of 6,450 respondents said they had previously attempted self termination. By comparison, the CDC found that in 2020, 0.36 percent of the population had attempted self termination. According to a 2022 survey by The Trevor Project, an LGBTQ+ suicide prevention organization, nearly 1 in 5 young people who identified as transgender or non-binary have attempted self termination. Try Again??
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  450.  @thumb7852  Tell it to a mirror.
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  451.  @WaaDoku  It is they, who fails to recognize that there's only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female.
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  452.  @axelprice5791  Gender and personality traits and temperament are different things too.
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  453. Because it's a psych issue not a sexual preference
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  454.  @jackiguess700  1 for each IQ point, of yours?
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  455.  @jackiguess700  No, it appears that your shoe size dwarfs your IQ
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  456.  @WillowTheGremlin  I couldn't care less if they want to have a surgeon alter their appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek. It doesn't make them one, and anyone who suggests it does is delusional or intellectually stunted. Women (ALL of them) are born female. Now you know better. Cope and seethe if you must-- but it won't change the nature of the universe
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  457. The whole topic of 'trans' is ludicrous nonsense. It's irrelevant. Changing what you call something doesn't change the nature of the thing being named. ALL women are born female, and ALL men are born male. There are ZERO exceptions
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  458.  quarlie1086  There are people. People are male or female, respectively-- and that condition and status is fixed and permanent. Your feelings about wishing you were born another sex/gender have exactly zero impact on objective reality
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  459.  quarlie1086  There are people. People are human. Humans are mammals. All mammals are binary, with exactly zero exceptions. Wishing you were the opposite sex doesn't make it so.
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  460.  quarlie1086  Transphobia is nothing but an attempt by trans activists, to use a toothless slur to smear those who challenge the incoherent claims of the trans-activist ideological narrative. Cis is a term used by trans activists, to pretend that there's another kind of woman, other than those born female, and that there's another kind of man, other than those born male BUT-- there isn't. There is no h8 involved in recognizing that a man wearing a dress-- is a man. That's just being observant of objective reality. There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female, which makes the use of cis totally irrelevant and useless. There are people. People are male or female, respectively-- and they've been established historically going back to the beginning of recorded history. Segments of each present with various physical and psych disorders, some with Both. Gender: There are 2 male/female. Personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, & none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys). Gender roles All relate to the roles of people in society with respect to being male or female, and they vary from culture to culture, country to country, and society to society-- and they're long established and steeped in tradition. Too many are inappropriately conflating gender, gender roles, personality, and temperament as though they're synonymous-- but They Aren't, causing needless confusion. Now you know better
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  461.  quarlie1086  I submit that you either haven't read the scrutiny of your ideological narratives, or you have a massive reading comprehension deficit at play. Which is it? Either way, you've certainly not presented any evidence that proves what anyone who has scrutinized your claims and the trans-activist narratives in general-- written to be inaccurate or incorrect in any way. Your narratives just don't stand up to scrutiny. I argue that there's only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female. A woman isn't a social construct, a feeling or a costume.
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  462.  @maryelizamoore7870  Gender roles are however, a social construct which refer to the roles of males and females in society, and way too many conflate them with gender/sex (A biological reality), leading them to some extraordinarily faulty conclusions.
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  463.  @WillieManga  Finally, something correct. You, as a man Can identify as a woman, BUT-- it doesn't make you one
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  464.  @WillieManga  No, I admit that you've not made a persuasive case to validate your ideological narratives, claims, analysis and conclusions as sound, in the face of scrutiny.
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  465.  @WillieManga  The only thing you've proven is that you're an attention seeking trans activist, agent provocateur who makes a spectacle of himself using a lot of words to say nothing substantive. It appears you argue for the sake of argument and that makes your presence irrelevant. Do Better Like I said, I admit that you've not made a persuasive case to validate your ideological narratives, claims, analysis and conclusions as sound, in the face of scrutiny, and given the opportunity-- you still haven't
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  466.  @Mel-wn9gb  They know you're correct... They're just an activist, agent provocateur. It debases women by pretending that their cult term shows that there's another kind of woman, other than those born female-- even though there isn't. It's m@dness
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  467.  @badischeente7322  A better analogy would be imagine moving to another country, culture, or society and expecting them to deny and change their cultural norms to accommodate You... How is that Not the clear exhibition of and expectation of a completely self-entitled, narcissistic and self-centered individual??
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  468.  @purpleeeclouds1818  No, gender/sex is biological and is established at conception and is observed and documented at birth or before. Gender roles are social constructs, which refer to the roles of males and females in society. Gender: The status of being either male or female, and because the entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in his/her womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate him/herself). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender. Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;)
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  469.  @monicadaniels784  Who are you to say anything? You have difficulty deciphering the differences between males and females
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  470.  @monicadaniels784  You sure haven't proven that here. Calm down. You look like and come across as a triggered, petulant, kid making vapid comments for attention.
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  471.  @WillieManga  Coming from someone like you, who doesn't appear to possess the capacity to decipher the differences between males and females, or fantasy from reality-- Your conclusions are dismissed as your credibility = 0
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  472. You're a dude. A woman isn't a social construct, a feeling or a costume. Changing what you call yourself doesn't alter reality. Calling an apple an orange doesn't change the nature of an apple or an orange. Feel free to engage in LARP and cosplay as though everyday is Halloween if you like, but just know that most will recognize that you're a dude trying to be edgy
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  473.  @dogenjoyer2480  Yup, their madness is a thing
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  474.  @playercore7444  You can pretend that your fairy princess costume makes you a fairy princess if you want, but it doesn't actually make you a fairy princess-- Not even on Halloween. You can't change your gender. You can only reject traditional gender roles by engaging in various levels of cosplay and LARPing. If sex and gender are independent, why should a male/man bother altering his primary sex characteristics to mimic the primary sex characteristics of a woman? Make it make sense if gender is merely a social construct, and independent from sex-- why not identify as a girl without going out of the way to alter your appearance to present as the stereotypical and objective primary sex characteristics of a female human the target????? Make it make sense
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  475.  @playercore7444  I use people's names, rather than grammatically incorrect pronouns. It's really a non-issue for me. It's not respect... it's politeness and civility perhaps, but respect is earned not owed, and it's reserved for that which is respectable. Respect is an admiration of an individual for their accomplishments or achievements.
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  476.  @playercore7444  1st of all, you get what you give, so if you can't take it, and don't like it, fix your attitude. 2nd, that isn't very lady-like 3rd, You are the ones seeking affirmation, acceptance and validation from everyone in society, and you're operating as the wrench in your own spokes, while claiming you don't care. 4th, Then, quit your whining about preferred pronouns and the like, since you don't care. 5th, there's no hate involved in recognizing that a dude in a dress is a dude... That's just being observant of objective reality and being able to discern it from fantasy cosplay and LARP
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  477.  @playercore7444  Don't care... The point remains valid, regardless of whether you're trans or not. I'm not the one insisting that everyone participate in a cosplay and LARP, by denying objective reality-- to affirm a delusion, as though it's based in reality w/ preferred pronouns, displacing women's opportunities for scholarships, job opportunities, Sports, Privacy expectations from the prying eyes and presence of males in their private spaces like locker rooms, changing rooms, dressing rooms, showers, restrooms and prisons (where trans women have impregnated female inmates), so I can feel affirmed, accepted and validated to effectively operate and function in society. The problem with the trans ideological narratives are that the majority of people don't have difficulty deciphering the differences between males and females, fact from fantasy, or reality from delusion or fantasy, or imagination.
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  478.  @harperthegoblin  Regardless, it's up to YOU to develop some coping mechanisms to assist you with dealing with the adversity that you will inevitably face in life. It's not the role of society to deny objective reality so you can feel a certain way. The universe doesn't owe you anything, and it's not going to reorganize itself for you, as though you're the center of the universe. Get Real
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  479.  @harperthegoblin  People exist. They are male or female, respectively-- and that status is fixed and permanent. Segments of each, present with various physical and psych disorders-- some with Both. A man cannot become a woman and a woman cannot become a man. They're trying to make identifying their objective reality a crime, by suggesting that using proper grammar to describe a man as he is a h@te crime. Get Real
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  480.  @Cakeses  I'm not upset. What’s wrong with being called a label that you didn’t create and that you don’t agree with? Woe to the feminists who go along with your narratives, as in their near dystopian future they will be oppressed by tyrannical men, who will claim they're women. Come on dude, stop living in la la land
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  481.  @dogenjoyer2480  They're women who can't deal with reality as it is
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  482.  @dogenjoyer2480  What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, costumes, or preferences. That you/they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's your/their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you/they wished they were. It's Really not too complicated
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  483.  @dogenjoyer2480  There are no 'trans people'. People exist. People are human. Humans are mammals. ALL mammals are male or female, respectively-- and that state is fixed and permanent. If 'trans people's' issues are just made up by others-- then you're all set, so quit your whining and whinging.
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  484.  @Sentient-potato  You rely on the participation of others in your LARP & cosplay, and YOU fail to persuade. Your narratives simply do not withstand scrutiny
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  485.  @Sentient-potato  You certainly haven't proven that a man who wishes he were, or believes he's a woman is anything other than a man. Got anything???
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  486.  @Mel-wn9gb  I don't buy the oppression narratives. People, for the vast majority of history have worked together against the harshness that is life, in what I see as a mutually beneficial arrangement which has clearly worked-- evidenced by the population explosion, and the modern advances resulting from that. Jordan Peterson has a much more in depth explanation, which I believe to be well-reasoned and justified. He discusses things like the advent of the invention of feminine hygiene products, toilet facilities, and the pill which made it possible to women to compete and excel, before which-- it simply wasn't possible to the degree it has become currently. The definition of gender that I've always used is: Gender refers to the sex observed and documented at birth, as well as referring to the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. There are biological differences between the sexes, and they matter.
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  487.  @Mel-wn9gb  I get what you're saying, but I disagree. For the bulk of recorded history Kings, Pharaohs, Potentates, Dictators, Emperors, etc... controlled ALL the people, subjects, slaves, etc. via conquest (Both men and women), started wars, conscripted the men into military service, etc... Regular people (Both men and women) worked together in harmony and to both of their benefit-- against the absolute harshness that is life, with all the infant mortality, poverty, disease, the elements in nature, early gr@ves for adults
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  488.  quarlie1086  Make no mistake... I don't have a problem with objective reality, or deciphering the differences between males and females. Those problems are yours to bear, they're not my obligation to cure or care. Women (ALL of them) are born female, making the entire notion of using cis/trans as a prefix for women and men totally irrelevant and rather useless and downright incoherent. A woman isn't a social construct, a feeling or a costume. Get a grip on reality. Choosing to call a man a 'trans woman' doesn't alter the nature of a man even in the slightest bit, and neither does changing his wardrobe or demeanor. I mean, if you choose to call an apple an orange, it doesn't alter the nature of an apple nor an orange.
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  489. There's no hate involved in recognizing that someone is not that which they portray themselves. That's just being observant. You could have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek,and it wouldn't actually make you a Klingon in reality, and anyone who thinks it would is delusional. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female.
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  490.  @ambrosesky  Your comment comes across like you're a petulant kid, making vapid comments for attention. There is only 1 kind of woman and they're all born female.
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  491.  @areudiva  There are no 'trans' people. There are people and people are male or female, respectively. DNA dictates the production of objective biological differences between males and females. 100% of the population is either male or female, even intersex people. There's only 1 kind of man, and they're all born male. There is also, only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female. If they have a Y chromosome, they are heterogametic and male. If not, they are homogametic and female. A woman isn't a social construct, a feeling or a costume that a man can put on or take off, and a man isn't a social construct, feeling or a costume that a woman can put on or take off
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  492. Discovering that not you nor anyone else who's a pro trans advocate is willing to engage with integrity and engage in good faith about the scrutiny of your narratives.
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  493.  @transally1243  Well, you all are the one's making an appeal for acceptance, so justify it with something coherent for a change. I mean if you all act like a-holes, expecting acceptance doesn't seem likely
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  494. @YourRandomBAD When you act like an ass you don't foster acceptance, or validation and get no respect. I asked some simple questions to those who are acting snarky and entitled. You act like you deserve respect. You're lucky you don't get what you actually deserve
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  495. @YourRandomBAD Once again, You all are the one's making an appeal for acceptance, affirmation and you being a blatant a-hole doesn't earn you any respect or acceptance, but you know this-- so it seems like you're interested in arguing for sport and thwarting your own supposed agenda to achieve acceptance, affirmation and validation. Not a threat, but we both know that in person if you acted the way you do online, the expectation for compassion, kindness, respect and civility would be void
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  496. @YourRandomBAD GREAT!!! Then quit your whining about pronouns and the expectation that men are entitled to infiltrate women's only spaces or that anyone needs to participate in your cult LARP/cosplay, as though you were entitled
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  497. @YourRandomBAD Exposing your narratives as invalid incoherent nonsense has been interesting. Not a single valid argument from you or anyone else justifying your expectation that the world owes you it's participation in your dress up fantasy. You can call that me whining if you want, but it's still not true Once again, You all are the one's making an appeal for acceptance, affirmation and you being a blatant a-hole doesn't earn you any respect or acceptance, but you know this-- so it seems like you're interested in arguing for sport and thwarting your own supposed agenda to achieve acceptance, affirmation and validation.
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  498. @YourRandomBAD I had no preconceived notions when I started asking questions, other than perhaps the hope for integrity and a good faith interactions from those who's narratives seem confused/convoluted to me, to make the narratives make sense... But NOPE... Nothing valid from you or anyone else justifying your expectation that anyone ought to accept your narratives as valid or owes you their participation in your dress up fantasy LARP/cosplay
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  499.  @transally1243  Your entire ideological narrative is bad faith. Your beliefs as to my motivations are as irrelevant as your responses are lacking in substance. I love to argue, and apparently so do you... The main difference is there's nothing from you or anyone else addressing the scrutiny of your narratives. It's always the 5 D's of Dodge ball with the pro trans advocates, never answering questions. It's no surprise your appeals for acceptance are rejected
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  500.  @transally1243  I literally quoted the conclusions of the studies for you. If you have difficulty with that-- it's a You problem. Those in the majority who've already established their countries, cultures, societies and social norms are not appealing to you for your approval, acceptance or validation, understanding that it's you-- who chooses to integrate into their societies, or you can choose to leave and go somewhere else. Nobody owes you anything, least of all respect. You want respect, you need to earn it by making your case compelling. I'm just asking questions which seem to bother you for some reason, so much so that you make triggered provocative responses avoiding answering anything in good faith, refusing to engage with substantive answers
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  501. @YourRandomBAD You're so mad... Rejection, get used to it creep
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  502. @YourRandomBAD You do if you expect my participation in your treatment, and participation in your trans fantasy LARP/cosplay... No one owes you Respect is earned, not owed-- and it's reserved for that which is respectable. Predator? LOL Just trying to have a civil conversation-- to no avail, with dudes who think they're justified to infiltrate women's only spaces as an entitlement, based on a subjective gender identity claim-- insisting they accept it and be quiet about it. The ultimate display of misogyny
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  503. @YourRandomBAD Well... bon voyage... Have a great trip
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  504. @YourRandomBAD You prey on women and kids-- shut yer yap, whiner
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  505. @YourRandomBAD Prove it
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  506. @YourRandomBAD Science has already proven what I've been saying about the gender of mammals being fixed and permanent. ALL mammals are of a binary sexual dichotomy of male and female, including humans-- in that 'ALL' category. sux2bu
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  507.  @transally1243  Something trans people say to try to convince themselves that their narratives are justified or valid, no doubt.
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  508. @YourRandomBAD No you haven't... Not here, not there, not anywhere
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  509. @YourRandomBAD You avoid the truth like it's the plague, and act out with the petulance of a late teen trying to be edgy, while remaining conspicuously wrong. Your outbursts are akin to a 2 year old having a tantrum. Affirmation, acceptance and validation of your appeals, are rejected. Think Deeper thoughts
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  510. @YourRandomBAD What you call throwing a tantrum, I call asking questions and scrutinizing your claims as justifiable, reasonable or rational to support your appeals for Affirmation, acceptance and validation and you've offered nothing but petulant whinging and triggered outbursts Think Deeper thoughts
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  511. @YourRandomBAD I know that you've not justified the appeals to the majority for their affirmation, acceptance or validation... Not here, not there, not anywhere
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  512. @YourRandomBAD Just an observation that you've failed to justify the appeals for validation, affirmation or acceptance as rational or reasonable, least of all made any compelling case for anyone's participation in the LARP/cosplay as though it was based in reality
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  513. @YourRandomBAD Well, that doesn't justify the appeals for validation, affirmation or acceptance as rational or reasonable, least of all made any compelling case for anyone's participation in the LARP/cosplay as though it was based in reality-- either
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  514. @YourRandomBAD You haven't established the allegation of harassment as true nor valid. I never suggested a treatment course of action. I merely questioned the validity of your claims by scrutinizing them with questions (exposing your incoherent claims as invalid--) which apparently has you baffled, so much so that you've not presented anything justifying the expectation that your narratives ought to be taken seriously by anyone. That's on You
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  515. @YourRandomBAD The creepy dude in the girl's locker room and showers projecting about his socially bankrupt pro-pedo activism. Can't make this shit up Asking questions to clarify what doesn't make sense to me about your "LARP and activism" and articulating why your narratives seem incoherent-- isn't harassment or a LARP. Science has already established the fact that all mammals are of a binary sexual dichotomy of male/female and that state is fixed and permanent. Your difficulty with that and the fact that a subjective gender identity claim isn't what makes anyone a man or a woman is a you problem, that I unfortunately can't cure for you. Thanks for the invite, but I decline to participate in the cosplay and LARP as though it's based in reality. Happy Halloween though... fyi-- Your disguise doesn't fool anyone but you
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  516. @YourRandomBAD Happy Halloween dude. Your costume looks ridiculous
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  517. @YourRandomBAD Ooh... You really need some better material
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  518. @YourRandomBAD It looks like it does come from a "2nd grade's most popular playbook". The scope of your comments amount to nothing more than petulant tantrums.
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  519. @YourRandomBAD Not my obligation to participate in the affirmation treatment plan of random individuals pretending to be something they're not, by affirming or validating them as though they are
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  520. @YourRandomBAD You look like you're the predator, hunting for negative attention. You're like the creepy dude in the girls locker room, pretending he's justified in being there. You are an empty vessel, unjustified in your expectations that anyone is obligated to pretend you're something you're not
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  521. @YourRandomBAD You seem lonely and starved for attention
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  522. @YourRandomBAD No doubt what you hear often, when insisting on preferred pronouns and creeping in the girl's showers and locker rooms as though you were entitled-- but you're not, so you better get used to rejection and develop some coping mechanisms to help you cope harder
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  523. @YourRandomBAD You lost this-- long ago before you ever started, and have resorted to triggered sperging, ever since
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  524. @YourRandomBAD You're Still triggered-- obviously. What's hilarious is you aren't winning anything except the title of village idi0t
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  525. @YourRandomBAD There's no truth in you. You have no justification to expect anyone takes you seriously
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  526.  quarlie1086  I don't. There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female
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  527.  @Mel-wn9gb  🎯
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  528.  quarlie1086  Transphobe is a toothless slur used by radical, trans-activist, cult types to attempt to virtue signal and pretend that there's another kind of woman or man-- other than those born female or male, BUT, there isn't. There's no irrational fear involved in recognizing that a man in a dress is a man. That's just being observant. There's only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female and there's only 1 kind of man and they're all born male. Cope harder and seethe if you must... Just know that renaming a man 'trans woman' doesn't alter the nature of a man in the slightest bit
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  529.  @summerblade3790  They re not though... There are only males and females among humans and a man wishing he were a woman doesn't make it so. No one has proven that a man who wishes he were, or believes he's a woman is anything other than a man. Got anything???
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  530.  @Scaredrobin  Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”).
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  531.  @harperthegoblin  Every 'trans' person is performative. It's just mimicry.
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  532.  @harperthegoblin  One could argue that-- and they'd in no way be disputing the fact that men cannot become women and women cannot become men. Your feelings about that are irrelevant.
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  533.  @harperthegoblin  Duh... Social, interpersonal skills are learned, and they in no way make it possible for males to become females or for females to become males. Your feelings about that don't alter that fact. Cope Harder
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  534.  @harperthegoblin  Look, I couldn't care less if you/they want to have a surgeon alter your/their appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek. It doesn't make you/them one, and anyone who suggests it does is delusional or intellectually stunted. Women (ALL of them) are born female. Now you know better. Cope and seethe if you must-- but it won't change the nature of the universe
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  535.  @harperthegoblin  No, you were not, and your other comments show that you've been operating in the capacity of a trans-activist agent provocateur. Don't confuse me debunking your points, with not listening to them. You're a dude, not a woman. Cope Harder
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  536.  @mewmere6069  Transphobe is a toothless cult term used to pretend that there's another kind of woman other than those born female, that there's another kind of man other than those born male (There isn't).
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  537.  @potatos7078  No, it's because they lack effective coping mechanisms to deal with the fact that not everyone likes them or accepts their LARP and cosplay as though it's based in reality, and their inability to deal with adversity that all other people face in life.
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  538.  quarlie1086  What they don't do is, turn males into females or females into males. They merely alter the natural body chemistry and functions. Perspective is a wonderful thing, unless like you-- you don't have it. Then, your conclusions get all messed up. The truth can sting. I get that. What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, costumes, or preferences. That you can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's your inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you wished they were.
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  539.  quarlie1086  Just illustrating the incoherence of all the trans activist's narratives. The arguments just don't withstand the scrutiny, because life is based in reality, and the trans imagination just doesn't override people's capacity for discernment. Your feelings counter to reality are yours to have. It's when you start insisting on everyone's participation in your LARP and cosplay that you're going to continue to find-- most people aren't willing to deny objective reality, in favor of massaging your 'feelings'. Just sayin... And why would they? You're not the center of the universe. The expectation that they should participate in the 1st place is unbelievably self-centered and arrogant. Quit conflating gender (There are 2male/female... That's it) with personality and gender roles as though they're synonymous. They aren't Believing there is some "essence" specific to males or female as far as feelings go, that can manifest "in the wrong body", is akin to a religious belief, having faith in something that is impossible to prove or disprove. The thing is though, that no one on the "trans" side can actually even explain what this "essence" is, they can't even explain it to themselves yet have convinced themselves that the feeling they have means they "are in the wrong body" - without realizing that their discomfort simply stems from not realizing that they view conforming to sexist stereotypes as legitimate measures of manhood or womanhood. That is why every explanation given of WHY a male "can't be a man, but is instead woman" etc. relies upon listing stereotypical stuff, or, in some cases is completely abstract and refuses to actually provide any explanation of what they mean, simply stating they "know" that what they feel means what they say it does, even though they can't actually provide a definition of it. "It's hard to explain but I know I'm right" is an attitude one constantly comes up against - a religious faith in something they can't define. This idea that the terms "man" and "woman" carry all this baggage, sexist stereotypes, that people need to live up to or feel comfortable with is a complete fabrication coming from the "trans" side. You lot want a term to reflect aspects of your personality as well, you want to create more boxes to put people in, as you won't accept simply just being a man or a woman based on being born male or female (and reaching adulthood, obviously people are boys and girls before becoming men or women), but believe you need this "freedom of expression" to broadcast what sexist stereotypes you feel more comfortable with - thinking the world needs to adopt the sexist view you lot have (you fail to see just how much you have in common with Conservatives). Replacing objective definitions which are based in physical reality, with entirely subjective metaphysical claims, is not logical in any way, is not morally superior, and is demonstrably harmful, not least to female rights and protections, but also to practically anyone that buys into it as it warps people's perception of the underlying issues. It hinders people in their quest for individuation, creating this false narrative of them becoming more "authentic" when the total opposite is true, they believe they need validation from others in order to be happy etc. instead of being encouraged to find more inner strength and resilience with less reliance on how people see them. Demanding to be legally recognized as the opposite sex of what one is, is in no way shape or form more authentic than accepting the physical reality one is born into. To believe we as individuals can have 100% control over our identity in society, what we are seen as by others, in interaction with, and in relation to, society/the world/physical existence is a fool's errand, it is a delusional understanding of reality and existence.
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  540.  @comprehensivecomparison  Not very lady-like of you. You have no frame of reference as to what it 'feels like' to be a woman. Cope Harder
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  541.  @comprehensivecomparison  It was the classless manner in which the question was asked (wtf) that wasn't lady-like, not the asking. A woman isn't a social construct, a feeling, a s3xu@l preference or a costume that a man can put on or take off. Women (ALL of them) are born female. A man cannot become a woman and a woman cannot become a man. Now you know
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  542.  @aaaaa111aaaaa  No doubt, the appropriate recommendation for a dude who's unable to cope with the objective reality, that they're not a woman and never will be.
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  543. In the game of facts vs opinions-- facts win. In fact-- One's subjective gender expression or identity isn't what makes anyone a woman or a man, it's biology which determines that. In fact-- All men are born male, and all women are born female, as is every other mammalian species without exception, and that binary sexual dichotomy and state is fixed and permanent. If the fallacy that a dude in a dress who claims a subjective gender identity of a 'woman' is a woman to whomever-- have at it. They can pretend all they want. I have no issue with that. I identify as someone who doesn't have to participate in the LARP and cosplay, much less affirm it as valid. If some dude prancing around in woman-face and a dress, identifying as a trans woman or a woman is (to whomever) a 'woman'... it means they're not too bright. Happy Halloween They're only fooling themselves. I identify as someone who doesn't have to participate in the LARP and cosplay as though I'm obligated to pretend it's based in reality, or to act like I don't know the difference between reality and fantasy.
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  544.  @LunaTheTimberWolf0  How do you figure? If they aren't born female they're male. A gender identity claim or non-traditional gender expression isn't what makes anyone a man or a woman. That's established via biology. You think women's rights, sports leagues men and women's divisions, prisons, showers, locker rooms, changing rooms etc... are designated segregated based on a subjective gender expression or identity claim, or maybe-- they're designated as such, based on biology?
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  545.  @twelvepigeons  Change my mind about what? The meaning of words? Objective reality vs the trans-activist ideological cult narratives? The fact that all mammalian species including humans are a part of a binary sexual dichotomy separated into 2 genders male/female, and that biological state is fixed and permanent? That something other than biology is what determines one's gender/sex? A delusional perception of reality, is the answer to the question, 'what would it take to change my mind?'.
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  546.  @twelvepigeons  I agree... If a dude in a dress is the 'woman' for them, they're gay... woopie dooo They are infringing on women's rights to privacy in showers, changing rooms, locker rooms, restrooms, prisons and w/ sports leagues, and operating as though women should just shut up and take it, because somehow those misogynistic men in drag are somehow entitled because of a subjective gender identity claim. No-- Just .... No
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  547. @YourRandomBAD The substance of my argument is there, and you've failed to prove it incorrect or inaccurate in anyway whatsoever. Yes, in fact-- they are cross-dressing men. Your subjective gender expression or identity isn't what makes you a woman or a man, it's your biology which determines that. All men are born male, and all women are born female, as is every other mammalian species without exception, and that binary sexual dichotomy and state is fixed and permanent, and no one has proven that a dude in a dress is anything other than a dude in a dress. Got anything???? If the fallacy that a dude in a dress who claims a subjective gender identity of a 'woman' is a woman to you-- have at it. You can pretend all you want. I have no issue with that. I identify as someone who doesn't have to participate in the LARP and cosplay, much less affirm it as valid. If some dude prancing around in woman-face and a dress, identifying as a trans woman or a woman is (to you) a 'woman'... it means you're not too bright. Happy Halloween You're only fooling yourself I identify as someone who doesn't have to participate in the LARP and cosplay as though I'm obligated to pretend it's based in reality, or to act like I don't know the difference between reality and fantasy. Now what?
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  548. @YourRandomBAD "(2021, August 11). What does the scholarly research say about the effect of gender transition on transgender well-being?. What We Know." Well, We know the self-delete rates are higher among the trans population than the general population and higher than the gay population, and those rates don't seem to go down after surgery-- despite claims of satisfaction or reduced gender dysphoria, and that the rate is significantly higher than the general population, and that isn't exactly the results you'd find with happy well-adjusted individuals if affirmation-based treatment protocols were adequate or efficacious to a justifiable level. The article you reference, "Carter, M. (2022, May 10). Trans women are (or are becoming) female: Disputing the endogeneity constraint: Hypatia. Cambridge Core." says, "there is implicit agreement that a decoupling of sex from gender or, indeed, erasing the former entirely, is necessary to support the affirmation of trans identities. In other words, both camps seem to hold that, to affirm a trans woman as a woman, the Beauvoirian approach must be abandoned. Consequently, both camps also seem to agree that, whatever transition does, IT DOES NOT CHANGE A PERSON'S SEX." You seem to have missed that possibly relevant bit of info which crushes your entire argument. No Worries...
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  549. @YourRandomBAD This is directly from the writer and tenured board member at WPATH, Ken Zucker: Not to mention the leaked wpath files showing doctors themselves do not think these kids are mentally mature enough to consent to the surgeries. Kenneth Zucker et Al 2021: 88 percent of trans women desisted after 20 years. 93% resorted to homosexuality vs affirmation treatment with a self delete rate nearly 10x's higher than the general population at nearly 40%, doesn't appear to be validating the 1% 'regret rate' claim-- as accurate (looks like a huge net loss to me, being that gays have a self-delete rate closer to the general population, at around 4% comparatively)-- in NO way justifies claims of affirmation-based treatment protocols as efficacious. Swedish study: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group. A 2020 academic study with a sample size of 372 respondents found that 40 percent of transgender people had attempted suicide. Similarly, in 2016, the National Transgender Discrimination Survey found that 41 percent of 6,450 respondents said they had previously attempted suicide. By comparison, the CDC found that in 2020, 0.36 percent of the population had attempted suicide. According to a 2022 survey by The Trevor Project, an LGBTQ+ suicide prevention organization, nearly 1 in 5 young people who identified as transgender or non-binary have attempted suicide. According to a 2019 UCLA School of Law- Williams Institute report on the thoughts and attempts of self deleting-- the Reports shows that The 2015 U.S. Transgender Survey (USTS), which is the largest survey of transgender people in the U.S. to date, found that 81.7 percent of respondents reported ever seriously thinking about suicide in their lifetimes, while 48.3 percent had done so in the past year. In regard to suicide attempts, 40.4 percent reported attempting suicide at some point in their lifetimes. Although the research literature to date agrees that transgender people are at an elevated risk of suicide thoughts and attempts, there is still much to learn about why transgender people are particularly at risk. Also, the conclusion of the Swedish study, which concluded that persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity-- than the general population. The findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group. When the rate of self deletes among the general population is 10x's lower, and when studies showing that up to 90% desist and end up gay, with only a 4% self delete rate by contrast, the results of affirmation-based treatment protocols are horrible by contrast, making it's justification questionable at best. You may believe wearing your Halloween princess costume makes you an actual princess, but you're only fooling yourself. It doesn't Did you see the Hillary Cass report? She is against early social transition because it puts the kids down a path of confusion … Why don’t trans activists listen ? Lol... YouTube “gender identity services in England - a cass review”. Cass called out the hypocrisy in the old diagnostic criteria … She asked for increased diagnostic criteria, she asked for the removal of the old pink/ blue system She wants increased treatment range to not include gender affirming care. AP- A major UK report says trans kids are being let down by toxic… “Dr. Hilary Cass said there is “no good evidence on the long-term outcomes of interventions to manage gender-related distress,” and young people have been caught up in a “stormy social discourse” about the issue.” Cass’ report, which runs to almost 400 pages, said that “for most young people, a medical pathway” is not the best way to deal with gender-related issues. “Cass said young people questioning their gender identity should be given “a holistic assessment” including screening for neurodevelopmental conditions such as autism, and a mental health assessment.” In her report, Cass said there was “no clear evidence” that social transition in childhood — such as changing names or pronouns — has any positive or negative mental health outcomes. “The report also concluded that there is no simple explanation for why the number of young people identifying as transgender has shot up in recent years in the U.K. and other countries.” 13:27 - conversation is about hormones. She says early social transition and medicalization greatly influence one into a path of surgical transition …. Just listen to her for a few minutes. Listen to 16:00 specifically for social transition. I agree with her This new study just published last month that I already listed “Risk of Suicide and Self-Harm Following Gender-Affirmation Surgery” Individuals who underwent gender-affirming surgery had a 12.12-fold higher suicide attempt risk than those who did not (3.47% vs. 0.29%, RR 95% CI 9.20-15.96, p < 0.0001). “Gender-affirming surgery is significantly associated with elevated suicide attempt risks, underlining the necessity for comprehensive post-procedure psychiatric support.” Doesn't look like efficacious results to me. It seems quite inadequate and unacceptable
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  550.  @twelvepigeons  This troll is so far out of his depths with me on this topic, it's actually unfair
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  551.  @LunaTheTimberWolf0  Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in his/her womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate him/herself). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender. Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). In other words sex AND gender ARE synonymous. So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;) Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex (There are only 2-- male/female... That's it) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles (without exception refer to the roles of males and females in society) as though they're synonymous and they are not. Science has already proven that the binary dichotomy of all mammals is male/female. A man in a dress is still a man A man with anxiety about his sex/gender-- still a man A man calling himself a woman-- still a man A man with an effeminate personality--still a man Seethe if you must, then just cope harder You/They haven't put forth no reasoning that withstands scrutiny, rendering your/their narratives and opinions as less than useless and therefore invalid. The incoherent rants and claims of legitimacy, are figments of the imagination. Reality isn't an anti-trans ideology. Trans is an anti-reality ideology, and they're the ones seeking affirmation, validation, and the participation of everyone in their larp and cosplay, based on the belief that their subjective delusions are based in reality. Newsflash: They aren't
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  552. @YourRandomBAD A whole lot of studies show extremely similar results, which is why I listed them there for you. Get a clue
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  553. @YourRandomBAD No, gender roles refer to socially constructed roles. I listed the definitions for you. If you can't comprehend them, or intentionally ignore them-- it doesn't make you right
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  554. @YourRandomBAD HAHAHA... You can pretend/convince yourself that your crap sandwich is a Philly cheese steak sandwich if you like, and go on and on about how it tastes delicious. Just don't forget to brush your teeth. No one else is fooled about it, but you
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  555.  @LunaTheTimberWolf0  That isn't much of a rebuttal or refutation. Seems like the sort of butthurt comment one might expect from a petulant late teen trying to be edgy, while failing to be relevant..
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  556.  @LunaTheTimberWolf0  Sensing you're a confused late teen, who has failed to invalidate anything I've written, or justify why anyone should treat a dude in a dress as though they're the opposite sex as a matter of entitlement isn't the height of misogyny
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  557. @YourRandomBAD Look at your triggered posts... Get a better therapist. You're unhinged. Yours are the posts of he who's desperate, because you've lost the debate, unable to articulate a civilized, rational, well-reasoned credible response to the scrutiny of his narratives. The problem with your virtue signaling is the absence of any actual virtue in your narratives or your conduct.
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  558. @YourRandomBAD tata, adios, aloha, sayonara, take your pick snapper head
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  559. @YourRandomBAD Nothing has turned anywhere. You've still failed to justify why women should shut up and take it, when men-- who claim a subjective gender identity have special interests advocating they be granted the authority to infiltrate their 'women's only' spaces like locker rooms, changing rooms, showers, prisons, sports leagues/teams... Do you not realize that those places and organizations are not designated segregated by subjective gender identity claims rather they're separated by biology/sex for a reason??? It's the height of misogyny
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  560. @YourRandomBAD Oh ya, you've proven to be anti-women and morally reprehensible. You lost the arguments thoroughly and have been discredited, invalidated, debunked and rejected. You've still failed to justify why women should shut up and take it, when men-- who claim a subjective gender identity have special interests advocating they be granted the authority to infiltrate their 'women's only' spaces like locker rooms, changing rooms, showers, prisons, sports leagues/teams... Do you not realize that those places and organizations are not designated segregated by subjective gender identity claims rather they're separated by biology/sex for a reason??? It's the height of misogyny
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  561. @YourRandomBAD What's your point??? Get real... Your sophistry is intellectually stunted. In the end, I'm right, you're wrong, and it irritates you, which is another 'you' problem you will either learn to cope with, or you won't. Again, another 'You' problem. You either can articulate intelligent thoughts which lend credibility to your narratives or you can't. If and when you don't, either way-- you're not likely to sway the thoughts of those who the trans activists say they're wanting to appeal to for acceptance, affirmation, and validation. You're just a troll making a spectacle of yourself. I know... You need a friend, and feel compelled to be anti-social and sow seeds of discord, acting as an agent provocateur, because you have nothing justifying any of your inane, incoherent, ideological trans-cult narratives which you advocate in favor of, as being something valid-- to be taken seriously by anyone who's participation is apparently necessary for it's validation. Good Plan buddy... Your work is done
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  562. @YourRandomBAD Explain it and make it make sense this time. What does the word gender in term gender dysphoria refer to, according to you? You said gender and sex were separate, so again... If, according to you-- genitals don't define gender, and gender and sex are separate, how does removing/adding them, and/or presenting as a caricature using the stereotypical biological primary sex characteristics of the opposite sex, as the goal post -- affirm it or make sense? You're not a fairy princess because you identify as one, and dress in the costume. l8r
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  563. @YourRandomBAD Your idiocy is evident everywhere here. I don't care what you have to say, since it doesn't involve actually answering my questions, rather results in you sperging incessantly. Too many opportunities for you to establish credibility wasted, in favor of your bad faith sophistry, gaslighting, strawman arguments and stunted analysis. Besides, you already admitted to trolling for sport, rendering yourself irrelevant. You're not that important
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  564. @YourRandomBAD I would agree that your peers who support those views are not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier. The vast majority of people on earth don't buy what you're selling. Cope Harder, then-- seethe if you must... It really doesn't matter. When men vote to eliminate women's rights by insisting they themselves are women, and that women need to shut up and cope with it, -- is the ultimate display of misogyny.
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  565. @YourRandomBAD You look pretty triggered from here. Relax... I'm not trying to persuade you. I was looking for signs of intelligent life and a possible justification for the expectation that everyone must participate in your clown show, and affirm it, as though it was valid-- and I got you instead, who failed to do so LOL
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  566. @YourRandomBAD Seethe if you must, but the trans clown act is indeed a clown act. Dudes who chop off their junk, pretending they're girls are just dudes who've chopped off their junk. Cope or not... It's true and nothing you say will change that
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  567. @YourRandomBAD So? That has nothing to do with the fact that your subjective gender identity and expression aren't what make anyone a man or a woman-- it's biology.
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  568. @YourRandomBAD You seem to Still be confusing yourself as someone who's established any credibility, or proven anything I've said is incorrect or inaccurate. You have not
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  569. @YourRandomBAD Missed me huh?
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  570. @YourRandomBAD I get it... You want to argue for sport. That's fine... You have no valid argument so far. Try harder There is no such thing as trans gender. All mammalian species are of a binary sexual dichotomy of male and female, respectively and that state is fixed and permanent, including with humans. Your subjective gender identity isn't what makes anyone a man or a woman-- that's DNA/biology. Transgender is a term used by radical ideologues, which is a social construct, which in no way affects anyone's biology. All men are born male, all women are born female and neither is a social construct, feeling, fetish, personality trait or temperament, a preference or a costume, and neither become the other with a subjective gender identity claim and/or LARP or cosplay. Your entire narrative is incoherent, of course, you know and admit you're only trolling for sport-- trying to make the most absurd strawman arguments as possible, while you gish gallop all your sophistry and with all of that-- for what? tp still be wrong, as though stoopid is the new cool. You need to make a friend
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  571. @YourRandomBAD Not much of a rebuttal. shocker /s Oh, was that supposedly when you were imagining that wearing your fairy princess outfit actually made you a fairy princess?
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  572. @YourRandomBAD No need... You've chosen to remain irrelevant by proving nothing and failing to justify that your narratives should be taken seriously or validated
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  573. @YourRandomBAD No doubt, what your therapist should have advised you on, regarding the appeal to others for acceptance, affirmation, compassion and validation
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  574.  @firetube8288  Don't conflate science with science-fiction or pseudo-science.
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  575. @YourRandomBAD Says the creepy dude who preys on women and kids
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  576. @YourRandomBAD blah blah blah You got nothing
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  577. @YourRandomBAD I got nothing substantiating any of your claims as valid... That's certain
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  578. @YourRandomBAD No doubt what you hear often, when insisting on preferred pronouns and creeping in the girl's showers and locker rooms as though you were entitled
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  579. @YourRandomBAD Pdfiles like you have no moral foundation, and preying on girls and women as though you're entitled to, with no justification-- are the predators and misogynists.
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  580. @YourRandomBAD There's no truth in you. Your projection is evident in your triggered mass posting of garbage. The expectation that anyone ought to treat men with issues, as though they're women is yet to be justified by you or anyone else. Cowards one and all
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  581. @YourRandomBAD Your gender expression isn't what makes anyone a man or a woman... It's their biology
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  582. @YourRandomBAD No, they don't. You believe that huh? LOL If You think women's only spaces and organizations are segregated as such, based on subjective gender identity claims vs biology then you're not too bright, and are letting your misogyny flag fly high
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  583. @YourRandomBAD Uh huh... Not one of those 73 studies you're referring to prove a man can become a woman. Until they do, all of your arguments are just you blowing bubbles, whining and amount to nothing more than hot air. Dudes have no business infiltrating women's only spaces and organizations, regardless of psych issues, their beliefs, anxiety, or claims about their gender identity. Your strawman arguments, sophistry, cult terminology and gaslighting are rejected as invalid
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  584. @YourRandomBAD Happy to correct your misunderstanding/BS gaslighting. Gender Roles are Social Constructs referring to the roles of males and females in society. Gender/Sex is biological (There are only 2 male/female... That's it), and that state is fixed and permanent among ALL mammalian species. Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex (There are only 2-- male/female... That's it) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles (without exception refer to the roles of males and females in society) as though they're synonymous and they are not. Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. DEFINITIONS: Cf. “Sex”. Both terms (“Gender” and “Sex”) originate from Latin words: “Genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;) If you need help comprehending the info, see if you can have an adult help you
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  585.  @TheBigJayAgenda  Science has already established that the natural binary dichotomy of all mammals is male/female. A dude regardless of his anxiety about reality is still a dude. Get Real
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  586.  @cmkat1  You can't change your gender. You can only reject traditional gender roles by engaging in various levels of cosplay and LARPing, or not. You could have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon, and it wouldn't make you a Klingon either. A dude with top and bottom surgery and wearing a dress is still a dude, regardless of his desire to be a woman-- he's not and can't ever be, is the point you can't escape. Don't be triggered... Just cope harder
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  587.  @T0B3573R  Trans women are MEN with issues pretending that they're women without issues.
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  588.  @transally1243  No, they don't disagree, and if they did-- they're wrong. Quit conflating science with pseudo-science and science-fiction as though they're synonymous-- They aren't.
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  589. @YourRandomBAD You haven't justified your expectations that girls and women should be okay showering with, sharing restrooms with, competing against, and sharing prisons with boys and men-- if they claim to identify as girls/women. You seem to have great difficulty coping with the push back against that, when they're citing their right to privacy. Your intentional disregard of their considerations and rights, is unchecked misogyny running rampant. Because the claims that 'trans women are women' is not based in reality, the claims are rejected as invalid. Dressing like a cross dresser doesn't make a man, a woman-- regardless of his feelings. Ya, the people you call 'trans women' are confused and conflicted men. Your difficulty with that doesn't exactly make you a genius. Just sayin... Alone in the shower, he knows he's a guy... Found damaged and unconscious in a wreck, the EMT's know he's a guy On a slab at the coroner's, the coroner knows he's a guy Archaeologists finding his bones and DNA know he's a guy. He's a guy, pretending to be a girl... Trust the science. Open Letter in Support of Dr. Kenneth Zucker and the Need to Promote Robust Scientific Debate Sponsored by FAIR in Medicine May 5, 2023 We, the undersigned signatories, are expressing our support for Dr. Kenneth Zucker, an academically robust and unbiased editorial process at the Archives of Sexual Behavior, and uninterrupted publication of “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria: Parent Reports on 1655 Possible Cases” by Diaz and Bailey. We condemn and reject the censorious demands being directed at Springer Nature, the company that publishes Archives of Sexual Behavior, that this paper be retracted, and that the editor of the journal, Dr. Zucker, be sanctioned for allowing the paper’s publication. The appropriate action is to have an open debate about the paper—not to silence those whose views one finds disagreeable. Currently as many as one in 10–20 youth report gender dysphoria. The paper by Diaz and Bailey adds to the growing body of knowledge about the various factors contributing to the rapid rise of adolescent-onset gender dysphoria–a phenomenon that was exceedingly rare in the past. Specifically, the paper engages with parental reports of the cases of “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria,” or ROGD. The ROGD hypothesis posits that in some cases, gender dysphoria in adolescence may be mediated by social factors. The potential viability of the ROGD hypothesis has been endorsed not only by the parents, as described by Diaz and Bailey, but also by the clinicians working with this patient population, and the affected patients themselves. If it proves to be correct, then the treatment approaches to this novel population of adolescents may need to be different, including the possibility that such cases may benefit from less invasive interventions that do not carry the irreversible effects of hormonal and surgical interventions known as “gender-affirming care.” The concern that the currently-presenting gender dysphoric youth are different from the originally-studied cases, and that they may be better helped by psychotherapy, has also been expressed by the originators of the “Dutch” protocol for gender-transitioning minors. We are particularly disappointed that among the signatories demanding that the research be retracted is the current President of WPATH. WPATH recently acknowledged the role of social influence as a possible contributing factor to gender dysphoria in adolescents, saying: “For a select subgroup of young people, susceptibility to social influence impacting gender may be an important differential to consider.” (Coleman et al., 2022, p. 45) Signing a demand to retract one of the very few papers examining the possible influence of social factors is inconsistent with WPATH’s own statements. We are aware of the allegation that a lack of an Institutional Review Board approval of this publication warrants a retraction. However, this is demonstrably false. Springer’s policies explicitly allow the Editor-in-Chief the discretion to accept a publication that has not sought IRB approval. The first author of this study was not affiliated with a university and did not need to seek IRB approval. Further, we are aware that the activists are alleging that the paper’s methodology was biased by only relying on parental reports. However, parental reports are commonly used to gather information about children and adolescents. A highly influential paper in the field that is often cited to support social transition for youth also relied on parental reports. However, in this case the methodology was not criticized. The difference appears to be that in this example, the parents supported their children’s gender transition, whereas in the Diaz and Bailey paper, the parents were concerned with the risks of inappropriate medicalization of their children. Unfortunately, this is not the first time journals and researchers who dare explore the subject of ROGD have been targeted for cancellation. What is currently happening to the Diaz and Bailey paper bears a marked resemblance to the prior attempt to silence the original “ROGD” paper by Lisa Littman, MD. Under tremendous pressure from critics, PLOS ONE subjected the paper to a second round of peer review post-publication. The paper withstood this unprecedented scrutiny, with its results unchanged. To quote Jeffrey S. Flier, MD, the 21st Dean of Harvard Medical School, who wrote eloquently about the the attempts to silence research into ROGD, “Many papers face questions after they have been published, which is well and proper: the systematic assessment and scrutiny of published work is a core method by which the scientific community corrects errors, and builds upon imperfect preliminary observations…But that is not what has happened…. [the] critics have not performed any systematic analysis of her findings, but seem principally motivated by ideological opposition to [the] conclusions. We fear that just like in the case of the original ROGD paper, the demands for retraction and sanctioning of Dr. Zucker, the Editor-in-Chief are principally motivated by the ideological opposition to Diaz and Bailey’s conclusion. Because of Dr. Zucker’s unique experience in the field and his role as the Editor-in-Chief, the journal, Archives of Sexual Behavior, has become a formidable force in the growing debate about how to best care for the rapidly growing numbers of gender-diverse youth. Dr. Zucker has demonstrated neutrality by routinely publishing articles on both sides of this contentious issue. While the paper by Diaz and Bailey–like all research–has limitations, it is vital to continue to study the ROGD hypothesis. Ongoing attempts to silence any research into the explosion of teens who are now identifying as transgender only stands to hurt the very patients the activists are claiming to help–young gender nonconforming people. We, the undersigned signatories, ask that Springer Nature, the company that publishes Archives of Sexual Behavior, takes a nuanced view of this situation, examines the context in which these complaints have been leveled, and chooses to uphold the principles and practice of scientific discussion, debate, and freedom of expression by rejecting calls to retract the paper “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria: Parent Reports on 1655 Possible Cases” by Diaz and Bailey and refusing to sanction Dr. Kenneth Zucker for his decision to publish the paper.
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  590. @YourRandomBAD The trans clown act is indeed a clown act. Dudes who chop off their junk, pretending they're girls are just dudes who've chopped off their junk. Cope or not... It's true and nothing you say will change that fact to suit your obsession with trying to rewrite reality
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  591. @YourRandomBAD Open Letter in Support of Dr. Kenneth Zucker and the Need to Promote Robust Scientific Debate Sponsored by FAIR in Medicine May 5, 2023 We, the undersigned signatories, are expressing our support for Dr. Kenneth Zucker, an academically robust and unbiased editorial process at the Archives of Sexual Behavior, and uninterrupted publication of “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria: Parent Reports on 1655 Possible Cases” by Diaz and Bailey. We condemn and reject the censorious demands being directed at Springer Nature, the company that publishes Archives of Sexual Behavior, that this paper be retracted, and that the editor of the journal, Dr. Zucker, be sanctioned for allowing the paper’s publication. The appropriate action is to have an open debate about the paper—not to silence those whose views one finds disagreeable. Currently as many as one in 10–20 youth report gender dysphoria. The paper by Diaz and Bailey adds to the growing body of knowledge about the various factors contributing to the rapid rise of adolescent-onset gender dysphoria–a phenomenon that was exceedingly rare in the past. Specifically, the paper engages with parental reports of the cases of “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria,” or ROGD. The ROGD hypothesis posits that in some cases, gender dysphoria in adolescence may be mediated by social factors. The potential viability of the ROGD hypothesis has been endorsed not only by the parents, as described by Diaz and Bailey, but also by the clinicians working with this patient population, and the affected patients themselves. If it proves to be correct, then the treatment approaches to this novel population of adolescents may need to be different, including the possibility that such cases may benefit from less invasive interventions that do not carry the irreversible effects of hormonal and surgical interventions known as “gender-affirming care.” The concern that the currently-presenting gender dysphoric youth are different from the originally-studied cases, and that they may be better helped by psychotherapy, has also been expressed by the originators of the “Dutch” protocol for gender-transitioning minors. We are particularly disappointed that among the signatories demanding that the research be retracted is the current President of WPATH. WPATH recently acknowledged the role of social influence as a possible contributing factor to gender dysphoria in adolescents, saying: “For a select subgroup of young people, susceptibility to social influence impacting gender may be an important differential to consider.” (Coleman et al., 2022, p. 45) Signing a demand to retract one of the very few papers examining the possible influence of social factors is inconsistent with WPATH’s own statements. We are aware of the allegation that a lack of an Institutional Review Board approval of this publication warrants a retraction. However, this is demonstrably false. Springer’s policies explicitly allow the Editor-in-Chief the discretion to accept a publication that has not sought IRB approval. The first author of this study was not affiliated with a university and did not need to seek IRB approval. Further, we are aware that the activists are alleging that the paper’s methodology was biased by only relying on parental reports. However, parental reports are commonly used to gather information about children and adolescents. A highly influential paper in the field that is often cited to support social transition for youth also relied on parental reports. However, in this case the methodology was not criticized. The difference appears to be that in this example, the parents supported their children’s gender transition, whereas in the Diaz and Bailey paper, the parents were concerned with the risks of inappropriate medicalization of their children. Unfortunately, this is not the first time journals and researchers who dare explore the subject of ROGD have been targeted for cancellation. What is currently happening to the Diaz and Bailey paper bears a marked resemblance to the prior attempt to silence the original “ROGD” paper by Lisa Littman, MD. Under tremendous pressure from critics, PLOS ONE subjected the paper to a second round of peer review post-publication. The paper withstood this unprecedented scrutiny, with its results unchanged. To quote Jeffrey S. Flier, MD, the 21st Dean of Harvard Medical School, who wrote eloquently about the the attempts to silence research into ROGD, “Many papers face questions after they have been published, which is well and proper: the systematic assessment and scrutiny of published work is a core method by which the scientific community corrects errors, and builds upon imperfect preliminary observations…But that is not what has happened…. [the] critics have not performed any systematic analysis of her findings, but seem principally motivated by ideological opposition to [the] conclusions. We fear that just like in the case of the original ROGD paper, the demands for retraction and sanctioning of Dr. Zucker, the Editor-in-Chief are principally motivated by the ideological opposition to Diaz and Bailey’s conclusion. Because of Dr. Zucker’s unique experience in the field and his role as the Editor-in-Chief, the journal, Archives of Sexual Behavior, has become a formidable force in the growing debate about how to best care for the rapidly growing numbers of gender-diverse youth. Dr. Zucker has demonstrated neutrality by routinely publishing articles on both sides of this contentious issue. While the paper by Diaz and Bailey–like all research–has limitations, it is vital to continue to study the ROGD hypothesis. Ongoing attempts to silence any research into the explosion of teens who are now identifying as transgender only stands to hurt the very patients the activists are claiming to help–young gender nonconforming people. We, the undersigned signatories, ask that Springer Nature, the company that publishes Archives of Sexual Behavior, takes a nuanced view of this situation, examines the context in which these complaints have been leveled, and chooses to uphold the principles and practice of scientific discussion, debate, and freedom of expression by rejecting calls to retract the paper “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria: Parent Reports on 1655 Possible Cases” by Diaz and Bailey and refusing to sanction Dr. Kenneth Zucker for his decision to publish the paper.
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  592. @YourRandomBAD Look, if a dude in a dress is your idea of the 'woman' for you-- you're gay, congrats. Now, Go be happy. Your gender expression isn't what makes you a man or a woman-- it's your biology
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  593.  @bellaspeaks  There are no trans humans. ALL humans are either male or female, and neither can 'become' the other/ All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference or a costume. Get a better therapist
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  594.  @mackseeghostss  Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively-- which cross-culturally are long established. Too many conflate personality traits and temperament (neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate gender and with s3xu@l preference. Then, they conflate males with females, men with women, science with science-fiction and pseudo-science, and fantasy with reality. A woman isn't a social construct and she isn't a costume that a man can put on or take off. Women (ALL of them) are born female, making the 'cis' distinction entirely irrelevant and useless. There's ZERO justification to grant those men access into women's private spaces.
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  595.  @summerblade3790  Well, you haven't proven that a man who wishes he were, or believes he's a woman is anything other than a man. Got anything???
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  596.  @summerblade3790  Trans women are dudes with issues prancing around as though they're women without issues.-- Still dudes You certainly haven't proven that a man who wishes he were, or believes he's a woman is anything other than a man. Got anything??? People with Swyer syndrome have female external genitalia and some female internal reproductive structures. These individuals usually have a uterus and fallopian tubes, but their gonads (ovaries or testes) are not functional. Instead, the gonads are small and underdeveloped and contain little gonadal tissue. These structures are called streak gonads. The streak gonadal tissue is at risk of developing cancer that is often hard-to-detect, so it is usually removed surgically. Swyer syndrome is also called 46,XY complete gonadal dysgenesis; the medical term “dysgenesis” means "abnormal development." Because they appear female on the outside, babies with Swyer syndrome are usually raised as girls and develop a female gender identity, which is a person's sense of their gender (girl, boy, a combination, or neither). Swyer syndrome may be identified before birth, at birth, or later when a child does not go through puberty as usual. Because they do not have functional ovaries that produce hormones, affected individuals often begin hormone replacement therapy during early adolescence to start puberty, causing the breasts and uterus to grow, and eventually leading to menstruation. Hormone replacement therapy is also important for bone health and helps reduce the risk of low bone density (osteopenia) and fragile bones (osteoporosis). Women with Swyer syndrome do not produce eggs (ova), but if they have a uterus, they may be able to become pregnant with a donated egg or embryo. You're going to really need to do better than that junior
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  597.  @mewmere6069  It doesn't affect the proper functioning of the organ. What's your point? Men can't become women. Cope Harder
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  598.  @Topatos-dg4ud  No, that's not the case and never has been. There are only males and females... You're inappropriately conflating personality with gender
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  599.  @monicadaniels784  I figured you were a savant, but didn't realize you were an expert on "useless". Congrats! You don't disappoint, providing the uselessness to the comments. You fail to persuade, mostly because you're trying to invalidate then remake reality, but reality won't be denied. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the total lack of any actual virtue whatsoever, in any of your whinging. Cope Harder
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  600.  @theviewer6889  It is not disconnected from sex. Gender refers to the sex observed at birth, and refers to the social aspect of being male or female, respectively. A woman isn't a social construct, a feeling or a costume that a man can put on or take off. Women (ALL of them), are born female. Always have been, and always will be. Cope Harder Societies and gender roles within them-- are long-established, cross culturally, and internationally. The vast majority reject the trans-activist ideological narratives. Take your time to process reality
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  601.  @theviewer6889  Yes, it is-- and in 99.4% of the time gender identity matches with sex, so-- let's not pretend there aren't established norms cross culturally and internationally. Try re-reading only slower so you don't miss it again. Societies and cultures have long-established gender roles, and they all relate to the roles of males and females,respectively. Trans are the vast vast vast minority, and it's for them to adapt to the societies in which they intend to integrate, society isn't going to reorganize itself and deny their cultural norms for a counter-culture minority. The world doesn't owe you, so you better learn to cope harder
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  602.  @SadtransGirlnoises-js3me  There is only 1 kind of man and we're all born male. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female-- making the use of cis totally irrelevant and useless.
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  603.  @Bnoymoder  It's irrelevant. They could identify as a Klingon from Star Trek, and choose to have a surgeon alter their appearance to look like a Klingon, and it wouldn't make them a Klingon, and anyone who suggests it does is delusional.
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  604.  @weevil8025  A woman isn't a social construct, a feeling, a s3xu@l preference or a costume that a man can put on or take off. As it turns out-- women (ALL of them) are born female. Now you know better There are people. People are male or female, respectively-- and they've been established historically going back to the beginning of recorded history. Segments of each present with various physical and psych disorders, some with Both. Gender, There are 2 male/female. That's it... Personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, & none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys). Gender roles All relate to the roles of people in society with respect to being male or female, and they vary from culture to culture, country to country, and society to society-- and they're long established and steeped in tradition. Now, quit conflating gender, gender roles, & personality and temperament-- as though they're synonymous. They are not
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  605.  @Bnoymoder  No worries. It's clear that analogies give you trouble. There are people. People are male or female, respectively. ALL women are born female, and ALL men are born male-- there are exactly ZERO exceptions, making the use of cis totally irrelevant and useless. DNA dictates the production of objective biological differences between males and females. 100% of the population is either male or female, even intersex people. If they have a Y chromosome, they are heterogametic and male. If not, they are homogametic and female. But you knew that because you've actually educated yourself on these conditions, right? Trans women are men, who wish they were women, portraying a caricature of a sexist stereotype of a woman. The problem is, there is only 1 kind of woman and they're ALL born female. Now you know better. Be Gone
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  606.  @0hhhhhdeer  Source?
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  607.  @0hhhhhdeer  Cis/trans, as best as I can tell, are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are. Why should all of society be required to participate in the LARP and cosplay as a matter of law, counter to objective reality??? To suggest such a thing seems like the height of arrogance and narcissism
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  608.  @0hhhhhdeer  The burden of proof is on you, since you made the claim. Trans women are men-- so what percentage of those men are, according to you, "pedophillic" men?
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  609.  @WillieManga  You don't appear able to articulate any intelligible response to my scrutiny of your claims, or those of your suggested sources. I never claimed any such thing; Quit your gaslighting. You've not proven anything I've ever written to be incorrect. Facts are facts. How you perceive them isn't a matter of being heartless or not. It's you, not having an effective coping mechanism to deal with reality as it is, or the fact that the vast majority of people reject the trans-activist ideological narratives as utter nonsense, and are simply not willing to deny objective reality to massage your subjective feelings about your preferred paradigm of reality, as though you're the center of everything for everyone. You're Not. Not everyone is going to like you. Welcome to reality. People don't owe you respect. Respect is earned, and it's reserved for that which is respectable. If you wish to integrate into society, it's on YOU. Not all cultures are Equal, Compatible, nor Desirable... That's why nations have borders
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  610.  @weevil8025  LOL... There's only one kind of woman, and they're all born female,so how do you figure??? A woman isn't a social construct, feeling, or a costume, and wishing you were something you're not doesn't make it so
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  611.  @AzureDelilah  Just people who don't have difficulty deciphering males from females, recognizing a man in a dress as a man.
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  612.  @Kat3Lewis  No... Gender/Sex and gender roles aren't synonymous. There is no internal feeling that is exclusive to men or women (or boys/girls), what makes anyone a man or a woman is being either male or female and reaching adulthood. Their sex and stage of physical maturity makes them men or women, not some "feeling" they have. Believing there is some "essence" specific to males or female as far as feelings go, that can manifest "in the wrong body", is akin to a religious belief, having faith in something that is impossible to prove or disprove. The thing is though, that no one on the "trans" side can actually even explain what this "essence" is, they can't even explain it to themselves yet have convinced themselves that the feeling they have means they "are in the wrong body" - without realising that their discomfort simply stems from not realising that they view conforming to sexist stereotypes as legitimate measures of manhood or womanhood. That is why every explanation given of WHY a male "can't be a man, but is instead woman" etc. relies upon listing stereotypical stuff, or, in some cases is completely abstract and refuses to actually provide any explanation of what they mean, simply stating they "know" that what they feel means what they say it does, even though they can't actually provide a definition of it. "It's hard to explain but I know I'm right" is an attitude one constantly comes up against - a religious faith in something they can't define. This idea that the terms "man" and "woman" carry all this baggage, sexist stereotypes, that people need to live up to or feel comfortable with is a complete fabrication coming from the "trans" side. You lot want a term to reflect aspects of your personality as well, you want to create more boxes to put people in, as you won't accept simply just being a man or a woman based on being born male or female (and reaching adulthood, obviously people are boys and girls before becoming men or women), but believe you need this "freedom of expression" to broadcast what sexist stereotypes you feel more comfortable with - thinking the world needs to adopt the sexist view you lot have (you fail to see just how much you have in common with Conservatives). Replacing objective definitions which are based in physical reality, with entirely subjective metaphysical claims, is not logical in any way, is not morally superior, and is demonstrably harmful, not least to female rights and protections, but also to practically anyone that buys into it as it warps people's perception of the underlying issues. It hinders people in their quest for individuation, creating this false narrative of them becoming more "authentic" when the total opposite is true, they believe they need validation from others in order to be happy etc. instead of being encouraged to find more inner strength and resilience with less reliance on how people see them. Demanding to be legally recognised as the opposite sex of what one is, is in no way shape or form more authentic than accepting the physical reality one is born into. To believe we as individuals can have 100% control over our identity in society, what we are seen as by others, in interaction with, and in relation to, society/the world/physical existence is a fool's errand, it is a delusional understanding of reality and existence. Now, you know better.
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  613.  @Kat3Lewis  If you don't have the coping mechanisms and ability to deal with objective reality, that's a You problem. Facts are facts. If you want to prance around in a Halloween costume 365 days /year-Go for it. Just know that most people recognize that you're not a woman, but are a man with issues trying to be edgy and counter-culture. BTW the self-delete rates are so much higher than the general population (even after transition- at nearly 40%) and that in and of itself doesn't exactly show them to be happy people. It shows that the efficacy claims of the trans activists is nonsense. Just sayin...
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  614.  @bayonetta3525  How is that not different from an average individual rejecting in total, the trans-activist ideological narrative-- by saying, in response to someone saying that they're trans, 'Not to me"?
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  615. If a dude in a dress is the 'woman' for you-- you're gay. All men are born male, all women are born female and neither is a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference or a costume, making the use of cis/trans entirely irrelevant and intellectually bankrupt
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  616.  @firetube8288  True, life begins at conception; however, indeterminate gender during that stage of development is not female by default. A distinction worth making
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  617.  @firetube8288  No, that is not true. The sex of humans is determined from fertilization, that is, as soon as it becomes a zygote: if it is XX, it will be a female, while, if it is XY, a male. However, at the beginning, human embryos have the precursors of both female and male gonads. "Embryos aren’t female by ‘default’ after all", study shows Monika Deshpande | Johns Hopkins University | September 21, 2017
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  618.  @firetube8288  Your DNA is quite literally the genetic map for your biology. What are you talking about?
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  619.  @firetube8288  The DNA contained in 22 of our 23 pairs of chromosomes, which men and women both have, is what you're referring to. What's your point? Sex chromosome, either of a pair of chromosomes that determine whether an individual is male or female. The sex chromosomes of human beings and other mammals are designated by scientists as X and Y. In humans the sex chromosomes consist of one pair of the total of 23 pairs of chromosomes. The other 22 pairs of chromosomes are called autosomes. Try again???
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  620. @YourRandomBAD You've failed to make a coherent argument yet, justifying the expectation that you ought to be taken seriously. You're just a self admitted troll, looking to sow discord. Your credibility is zero and your narratives are weak and lame
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  621. @YourRandomBAD I'm not the one making an appeal for acceptance, affirmation nor validation here, like nearly everyone in the room
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  622. @YourRandomBAD Keep telling yourself that. You're the one's who rely on the opinions and participation of others in your LARP and cosplay for your validation here, not me.
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  623.  @transally1243  You're describing trans hippie, perfectly
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  624. @YourRandomBAD You're never happy are you? All you have is triggered whinging. Face the rejection, and learn to cope. Your petulance doesn't make you correct or make anyone who recognizes that a dude in a dress (Not a woman) is still a dude, wrong either. Those in the majority who've already established their countries, cultures, societies and social norms are not appealing to you for your approval, acceptance or validation, understanding that it's you-- who chooses to integrate into their societies, so it's for you to adapt, not expect the world to change for you, as though you were entitled. Nobody owes you anything, least of all respect, acceptance, affirmation or validation. You need to earn it by making your case compelling, but you can't because your narrative is the incoherent cult gibberish of a false doctrine.
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  625. @YourRandomBAD You're projecting again
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  626. @YourRandomBAD Prove it. Your triggered smear attempts don't do it
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  627. @YourRandomBAD All you have are false claims
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  628.  @transally1243  ZERO evidence to support that false allegation. You should be prosecuted. The parents of my former students sat in on their lessons. People don't dislike you for being trans... They dislike you for being an ass
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  629. @YourRandomBAD Liars like you, have no evidence to support any of your false and libelous claims
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  630. @YourRandomBAD You've failed to justify the appeals for validation, affirmation or acceptance as rational or reasonable, least of all made any compelling case for anyone's participation in the LARP/cosplay as though it was based in reality.
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  631. @YourRandomBAD The dude creeping in the girl's locker room and showers-- projecting about his socially bankrupt pro-pedo activism. Can't make this shit up Asking questions to clarify what doesn't make sense to me about your "LARP and activism" and articulating why your narratives seem incoherent-- isn't harassment or a LARP. Science has already established the fact that all mammals are of a binary sexual dichotomy of male/female and that state is fixed and permanent. Your difficulty with that and the fact that a subjective gender identity claim isn't what makes anyone a man or a woman is a you problem, that I unfortunately can't cure for you. Thanks for the invite, but I decline to participate in the cosplay and LARP as though it's based in reality. Happy Halloween though... fyi-- Your disguise doesn't fool anyone but you
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  632. @YourRandomBAD You have no friends
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  633. @YourRandomBAD None of them have been able to justify being taken seriously either
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  634. @YourRandomBAD No doubt what you hear often, when insisting on preferred pronouns and creeping in the girl's showers and locker rooms as though you were entitled-- but you're not, so you better get used to rejection and develop some coping mechanisms to help you cope harder. Get Help
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  635. @YourRandomBAD Pdfiles like you have no moral foundation, and preying on girls and women as though you're entitled to, with no justification-- are the predators and misogynists.
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  636.  @SadtransGirlnoises-js3me  No, women (ALL of them) are born female, and that unhinged dude wasn't. Get Real
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  637.  @ConnerTheCoyote  Coming from a group of guys pretending to be Cinderella for attention; it appears that the value of your opinions, appear to be over-inflated in value.
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  638.  @greteez  That isn't very lady-like or feminine of you. shocker... 🙄 You seem triggered. Is that what you expect to hear, in response to your appeal for compassion, affirmation, and acceptance??? Karma is often unkind People are not a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference, personality, or a costume. Quit inappropriately conflating gender/sex (biology) with gender roles (social constructs referring to males and females) You need a better argument
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  639.  @greteez  There are no trans people. All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, personality, preference, nor a costume. Transphobe is a toothless cult term used to pretend there is another kind of woman other than those born female, but there isn't-- and to shut down speech when you're exposed and have no answer to the scrutiny of your claims.
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  640. All women are born female, and as it's been pointed out-- you believe gender identity and sex are separate, so go ahead and justify encroaching on things like sports, showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, restrooms, and prisons-- separated based on biological sex, rather than a subjective claim and feeling-- as an entitlement. No one's come close yet, to being able to justify the expectation that just because they present and identify in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must treat them as though they're the opposite sex. Got anything?
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  641. @YourRandomBAD Your sophistry is rejected. Cope Harder. All women are born female, and as you pointed out-- you believe gender identity and sex are separate, so go ahead and justify encroaching on things separated based on sex, as an entitlement. You can't, so quit whining You haven't come close yet, to being able to justify the expectation that just because you present and identify in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must treat you as though you're the opposite sex. The world isn't your therapist and doesn't owe you special consideration. To expect it does is the height of narcissism and arrogance. You have nothing justifying why your whining should be taken seriously
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  642.  @Sae23b1  It's a social contagion and a cult
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  643. @YourRandomBAD Too bad you couldn't make your comment relevant or substantive. It's amazing that your response doesn't include anything proving my comments inaccurate or incorrect in any way whatsoever. You've got nothing but whining going on so far. Do Better I'm still in contact with many of my students, and they seem to appreciate that I'm still playing and improving, while being happy in early retirement, and glad to be able to stay in contact so I can continue to help them with their gear and playing.
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  644. @YourRandomBAD You fail to prove anything I've written is inaccurate in any way whatsoever, and you've failed to do it in the here and now. Do you believe that spaces designated by gender/sex are referring to gender roles? Make it make sense I Don't care if you want to wear a dress, makeup, heels and a wig, get boob implants, have HRT and have your properly functioning genitalia removed surgically-- Feel free, but still a man. The justification for separating men and women in prison, showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, and sports teams/leagues seems to be confusing to trans activists. Whats the issue with it??? Justify and explain how eliminating women's private spaces and allowing men to encroach isn't misogyny?
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  645. @YourRandomBAD So you say, BUT, The thing is, It's you who are expecting the world and everyone in it to operate as though you're owed something. That's wrong! It is for you to make your case a compelling one, if you expect the participation and cooperation of others, and so far-- You fail to persuade. Science has already established that All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference, or costume, and that state is fixed and permanent as it is with every other mammalian species. Way too many (You included) conflate Gender/Sex (= Biology, there are only 2 male/female... That's it) with Gender Roles (Social Constructs referring to the roles of males and females in society). and again with personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) as though they're synonymous and they are Not. Male/Female are categories of the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species, which is fixed and permanent. That you aren't aware is a you problem.
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  646. @YourRandomBAD Bottom Line: I don't find your focus or arguments persuasive, nor compelling because I'm not confused about reality. If genitals don't define gender, how does removing/adding them, and/or presenting as a caricature using the stereotypical biological primary sex characteristics of the opposite sex, as the goal post -- affirm it?
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  647.  @transally1243  Your strawman arguments, sophistry, gaslighting and virtue-free virtue signaling are rejected. If you can't articulate a logical, well-reasoned responses to legitimate questions that is a poor reflection of YOU, who expects to be taken seriously, accepted, and validated.
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  648.  @armor1596  That didn't really make it make sense. Transphobic is a cult term that I reject. There's no fear involved in recognizing that a dude in a dress is a dude. That's just being observant. If a dude in a dress is the 'woman' for you-- you're gay, so go be happy... But it doesn't make him a 'her'
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  649.  @transally1243  Coming from you, who said, "and no I won't be responding, just instigating and rubbing it in your proverbial face". That's You-- failing to justify your claims to those whom you appeal to for affirmation, acceptance and validation. Looks like you're self sabotaging from here A phobia is an irrational fear. There's no fear or feelings of any kind involved in recognizing something for what it is. How is that me sabotaging anything whatsoever, or you making sense of affirmation treatment protocols? I'm not seeking your acceptance, approval, affirmation or validation... That would be you and yours.
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  650. @YourRandomBAD Try addressing the folly of your entire narrative. Men can't become women and a man's delusion to the contrary doesn't change that or justify his expectation that anyone ought to pretend otherwise
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  651. @YourRandomBAD I don't care if you choose a gay lifestyle. If a dude in a dress is the 'woman' for you-- you're gay, so go be happy already instead of acting triggered. The fact that I don't have difficulty deciphering the difference between a dude in a dress and a woman-- isn't a matter of preference, or a negative aversion, it's just observing what is... Your assertion that it means something else is baseless
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  652. @YourRandomBAD Explain it and make it make sense this time. What does the word 'gender' in term gender dysphoria refer to, according to you? You said gender and sex were separate, so again... If, according to you-- genitals don't define gender, and gender and sex are separate, how does removing/adding them, and/or presenting as a caricature using the stereotypical biological primary sex characteristics of the opposite sex, as the goal post -- affirm it or make sense? You're not a fairy princess because you identify as one, and dress in the costume.
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  653. @YourRandomBAD Cool fiction story... I came here asking questions seeking clarification and justification for your expectation that all of society owes you it's participation in your treatment plan, affirming, and accepting your LARP and cosplay as valid-- and no one has been able to articulate anything which withstands any scrutiny. Not a good look, and a definite road block to achieving the acceptance, affirmation and validation from the majority-- who the trans community appeals to for those very things. You're like the wrench in your own spokes, troll. Congratulations
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  654.  @transally1243  Translation= You got nothing justifying your narratives as valid. Got it
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  655.  @transally1243  Well, that doesn't justify your narratives either. It definitely appears that You have nothing substantive to contribute. The problem you have with your virtue signaling is the absence of any actual virtue. Your bad faith interactions aren't gaining any acceptance, affirmation or validation. Good plan! They're earning you contempt instead.
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  656. @YourRandomBAD Objective reality isn't an ideology. You're so mad that your disguise isn't fooling anyone, and that your creepy nature is rejected. Too bad so sad
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  657.  @transally1243  Study title: “Risk of Su~c~de and Self-H@rm Following Gender-Affirmation Surgery” Conclusions from the studies: "Individuals who underwent gender-affirming surgery had a 12-fold higher su~ci~de attempt risk, than those who did not" “Gender-affirming surgery is significantly associated with elevated su~c~de attempt risks, underlining the necessity for comprehensive post-procedure psychiatric support.” You don't seem concerned about this... Why don't you care about those people? I mean, clearly you don't care about imposing on women either-- so why would you expect anyone to care about you and your concerns? The world doesn't owe you, but you seem to try to earn the hate and then play the victim when your anti-social BS is met with resistance
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  658.  @transally1243  The study above that I posted, shows that they do have a higher self delete rate after transition surgery, and countries which have banned affirmation treatment haven't seen a massive spike in the self delete rates. What do you make of that? Those who are so disturbed that they attempt to self-delete, aren't exactly examples of well-adjusted, well-balanced, mentally healthy or stable individuals-- and if they require so much coddling and the participation of everyone in society in their treatment plan, it seems they need to be in protective custody, not walking around in public where they clearly (according to you) are so troubled that they self delete if everyone doesn't participate in their LARP and cosplay
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  659.  @transally1243  First of all, gay and lesbian people don't have difficulty deciphering the differences between males and females, or recognizing themselves as males or females, respectively, now do they? The stats show that the gay population's self delete stats are in line with the rest of the general population, which is WAY WAY lower than those of the trans "Community", and a peer reviewed long-term study by Ken Zucker shows that up to 90% of people who identify as 'trans' desisted and resorted to a gay lifestyle. Name a single study that shows that a male can become a female. Just 1... I'll wait. 🦗🦗🦗 There isn't a biologist anywhere that would validate the claim that trans women are women. Look, neither your subjective gender identity or gender expression, or preferences are what defines a man or a woman-- That's a biological state which is fixed and permanent. All the rest of the trans cult narrative seems to be amounting to nothing more that incoherent noise, cope, triggered whinging and propaganda. The big problem you all have with your narratives is objective reality and the fact that most people don't have difficulty deciphering the difference between objective reality and the trans imagination, and there are a ton of pissed of women who aren't too thrilled about having dudes infiltrating their showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, sports leagues/teams, or prisons-- be told they should just be quiet and accept it, because those men are somehow self-entitled to their subjugation.
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  660.  @transally1243  Continuation: "(2021, August 11). What does the scholarly research say about the effect of gender transition on transgender well-being?. What We Know." Well, We know the self-delete rates are higher among the trans population than the general population and higher than the gay population, and those rates don't seem to go down after surgery-- despite claims of satisfaction or reduced gender dysphoria, and that the rate is significantly higher than the general population, and that isn't exactly the results you'd find with happy well-adjusted individuals if affirmation-based treatment protocols were adequate or efficacious to a justifiable level. No Worries... Kenneth Zucker et Al 2021: 88 percent of trans women desisted after 20 years. 93% resorted to homosexuality vs affirmation treatment with a self delete rate nearly 10x's higher than the general population at nearly 40%, doesn't appear to be validating the 1% 'regret rate' claim-- as accurate (looks like a huge net loss to me, being that gays have a self-delete rate closer to the general population, at around 4% comparatively)-- in NO way justifies claims of affirmation-based treatment protocols as efficacious. Swedish study: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group. A 2020 academic study with a sample size of 372 respondents found that 40 percent of transgender people had attempted suicide. Similarly, in 2016, the National Transgender Discrimination Survey found that 41 percent of 6,450 respondents said they had previously attempted suicide. By comparison, the CDC found that in 2020, 0.36 percent of the population had attempted suicide. According to a 2022 survey by The Trevor Project, an LGBTQ+ suicide prevention organization, nearly 1 in 5 young people who identified as transgender or non-binary have attempted suicide. According to a 2019 UCLA School of Law- Williams Institute report on the thoughts and attempts of self deleting-- the Reports shows that The 2015 U.S. Transgender Survey (USTS), which is the largest survey of transgender people in the U.S. to date, found that 81.7 percent of respondents reported ever seriously thinking about suicide in their lifetimes, while 48.3 percent had done so in the past year. In regard to suicide attempts, 40.4 percent reported attempting suicide at some point in their lifetimes. Although the research literature to date agrees that transgender people are at an elevated risk of suicide thoughts and attempts, there is still much to learn about why transgender people are particularly at risk. Also, the conclusion of the Swedish study, which concluded that persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity-- than the general population. The findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group. When the rate of self deletes among the general population is 10x's lower, and when studies showing that up to 90% desist and end up gay, with only a 4% self delete rate by contrast, the results of affirmation-based treatment protocols are horrible by contrast, making it's justification questionable at best. You may believe wearing your Halloween princess costume makes you an actual princess, but you're only fooling yourself. It doesn't Did you see the Hillary Cass report? She is against early social transition because it puts the kids down a path of confusion … Why don’t trans activists listen ? Lol... YouTube “gender identity services in England - a cass review”. Cass called out the hypocrisy in the old diagnostic criteria … She asked for increased diagnostic criteria, she asked for the removal of the old pink/ blue system She wants increased treatment range to not include gender affirming care. AP- A major UK report says trans kids are being let down by toxic… “Dr. Hilary Cass said there is “no good evidence on the long-term outcomes of interventions to manage gender-related distress,” and young people have been caught up in a “stormy social discourse” about the issue.” Cass’ report, which runs to almost 400 pages, said that “for most young people, a medical pathway” is not the best way to deal with gender-related issues. “Cass said young people questioning their gender identity should be given “a holistic assessment” including screening for neurodevelopmental conditions such as autism, and a mental health assessment.” In her report, Cass said there was “no clear evidence” that social transition in childhood — such as changing names or pronouns — has any positive or negative mental health outcomes. “The report also concluded that there is no simple explanation for why the number of young people identifying as transgender has shot up in recent years in the U.K. and other countries.” 13:27 - conversation is about hormones. She says early social transition and medicalization greatly influence one into a path of surgical transition …. Just listen to her for a few minutes. Listen to 16:00 specifically for social transition. I agree with her This new study just published a couple of months ago that I already listed “Risk of Suicide and Self-Harm Following Gender-Affirmation Surgery” Individuals who underwent gender-affirming surgery had a 12.12-fold higher suicide attempt risk than those who did not “Gender-affirming surgery is significantly associated with elevated suicide attempt risks, underlining the necessity for comprehensive post-procedure psychiatric support.” Doesn't look like efficacious results to me. It seems quite inadequate and unacceptable. Just sayin...
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  661.  @transally1243  Go read the studies for clarification. How about YOU justify your narratives as a sought after entitlement. There's no h8 involved in recognizing the objective reality that all men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference, nor a costume-- and there's no h8 involved in recognizing that a dude in a dress is a dude in a dress. What are you talking about? Looks like you're desperately trying to maintain a victim-hood status while stepping on women's rights without any of the consideration you claim to deserve
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  662.  @transally1243  Once again, You all are the one's making an appeal for acceptance, affirmation and you being a blatant jerk doesn't earn you any respect or acceptance, but you know this-- so it seems like you're interested in arguing for sport and thwarting your own supposed agenda to achieve acceptance, affirmation and validation. Congratulations... You played yourself, because what you're doing isn't getting it
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  663. @YourRandomBAD That's wrong. I'm just asking for a justification that anyone ought to take you seriously or why you think anyone is obligated to participate in your clown show as though it were valid
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  664. @YourRandomBAD Not a single coherent argument from you or anyone else. You can allege that with perfect utility with zero evidence anywhere to be found, and rather than making your case in the here and now where it would count, you just provoke disdain. Your self-sabotage is on you
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  665. @YourRandomBAD Sure I can... I deny your obsessive, bad faith accusations, red herring arguments, sophistry, gaslighting and entitlement to my participation in your cosplay. See?? Easy
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  666. @YourRandomBAD You've become a less than relevant meme w/ your triggered anti-social sophistry-- at this point, unable to articulate anything justifying your expectation that anyone ought to take you seriously. No matter how much you strive to provoke, you have nothing of substance to support your triggered expectations that the world owes you something
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  667. @YourRandomBAD Those in the majority who've already established their countries, cultures, societies and social norms are not appealing to you for your approval, acceptance or validation, understanding that it's you-- who chooses to integrate into their societies, or you can choose to leave and go somewhere else. Nobody owes you anything, least of all respect. You want respect, you need to earn it by making your case compelling. I'm just asking questions which seem to bother you for some reason, so much so that you make triggered provocative responses for a year, refusing to engage with the substance to answer
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  668. @YourRandomBAD Says the creepy dude who preys on women and kids... You're projecting again
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  669. @YourRandomBAD Prove it
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  670. @YourRandomBAD You have nothing but triggered smears and rage fueling your libelous comments.
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  671.  @transally1243  I don't tolerate BS well, groom3r
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  672. @YourRandomBAD The creepy dude in the girl's locker room calling someone else a predator. Can't make this shit up
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  673. @YourRandomBAD You're the dude creeping in the girl's locker room and showers-- projecting about his socially bankrupt pro-pedo activism, and look is the only one who looks like a predator here
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  674. @YourRandomBAD You are the one trying to pick fights. You have been too inept to be able to engage with the intellectual debate, so you troll instead. You're a hollow vessel for a dark spirit
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  675. @YourRandomBAD You are of no consequence whatsoever. You're a hollow vessel with a dark spirit and low character
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  676. @YourRandomBAD No doubt what you hear often, when insisting on preferred pronouns and creeping in the girl's showers and locker rooms as though you were entitled-- but you're not, so you better get used to rejection and develop some coping mechanisms to help you cope harder
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  677. @YourRandomBAD Says the pdfile... You have no moral foundation and your intellectual position is worse. sux2bu
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  678. @YourRandomBAD There's no truth in you. You haven't justified the expectation that everyone ought to treat men who claim a subjective gender identity of a woman, as though he's a woman-- as an entitlement, and until you do-- you better get used to push back against that ideology.
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  679.  @purpleeeclouds1818  All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference or costume. A man's anxiety about his biology, and wishing things were different doesn't make him a woman. Get Real
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  680.  @Bnoymoder  Women (ALL of them) are born female, making the use of cis totally irrelevant and useless. A man cannot become a woman, and a woman cannot become a man. Now you know better.
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  681.  @thatnotsoaverageperson  If the concept of male and female is confusing to you, I don't believe anything I tell you will make sense to you either.
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  682.  @Topatos-dg4ud  Why? You can't change from male to female regardless of whether you're talking about a dog, lion, bear, monkey, ape, or a human. If you neuter your male dog, paint his nails and make him wear a dress, it's still a male dog.
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  683.  @fashupora5487  Nonsense. 90% desist and end up being g@y. The problem is that the world exists in objective reality and the trans imagination, wishing they were the opposite sex, doesn't over-ride the vast majority of people's capacity for discernment
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  684. ​ @spookytimejunction  What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, costumes, or preferences. That you/they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's your/their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you/they wished they were.
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  685.  @fashupora5487  The arguments just don't withstand the scrutiny because life is based in reality, and the trans imagination just doesn't override people's capacity for discernment
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  686. Well... You're the ones who've failed to justify your expectation that men dressed as women, insisting they're not men- rather are women, are entitled to disregard women's only spaces as a matter of entitlement because of a subjective gender identity claim, and that women should just shut up and accept that, because WHY? Infiltrating 'women's only' spaces like showers, changing rooms, locker rooms, rest rooms, prisons or sports leagues/teams as an entitlement, and insisting women should just be quiet and accept that is the height of misogyny, being that those places aren't designated segregated based on some subjective gender identity claims, rather-- on biology. How is it not?? Got anything??? There's no hate involved in recognizing a dude in a dress is a dude in a dress. That's just being observant.
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  687.  @transally1243  Pure projection and Cope... from you who can't, justify his claims as valid. Do Better. You're dismissed
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  688.  @transally1243  No worries. Your integrity = zero. I'm not the one seeking affirmation, acceptance or validation... from you. LOL That would be you and yours would it not? and you've failed to justify men-- choosing to infiltrate 'women's only' spaces like showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, restrooms, prisons or sports leagues/teams as an entitlement based on a subjective gender identity claim-- and that women should just be quiet and put up with it. It's the ultimate display of misogyny. How is it not?
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  689.  @transally1243  You don't seem to have a problem with women being told they have to shut up and accept a dude making a subjective gender identity claim in their showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, prisons and sports leagues/teams. Looks like pure misogyny to me. How is it not??? Do you think those places are segregated based on a subjective gender identity claim or perhaps they're segregated based on objective reality and biology? Get Real
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  690.  @transally1243  Back at you... I already answered that for you. Looking to see if you can justify your expectation that anyone ought to take you seriously much less owe you their participation in your dress up fantasy
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  691.  @transally1243  Prove it... You have nothing. What does the word 'gender' in the term gender dysphoria refer to, according to you? They said gender and sex are separate, so... If, according to you-- genitals don't define gender, and gender and sex are separate, how does removing/adding them, and/or presenting as a caricature using the stereotypical biological primary sex characteristics of the opposite sex, as the goal post -- affirm it? You're not a fairy princess because you identify as one, and dress in the costume.
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  692. @YourRandomBAD Just an observation that you've failed to justify the appeals for validation, affirmation or acceptance as rational or reasonable, least of all made any compelling case for anyone's participation in the LARP/cosplay as though it was based in reality. Your false smears don't justify your appeal for acceptance, affirmation or validation from the majority.
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  693. @YourRandomBAD That doesn't justify the appeals for validation, affirmation or acceptance as rational or reasonable either. Your false smears are about as intellectually valid as a 2 year old calling you a doodoo head... They definitely don't justify your appeal for acceptance, affirmation or validation from the majority.
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  694. @YourRandomBAD You haven't established the allegation of harassment as true nor valid. I never suggested a treatment course of action. I merely questioned the validity of the trans activist's claims, by scrutinizing them and asking questions (exposing the incoherent claims as invalid--) which apparently has you baffled, so much so that you've not presented anything justifying the expectation that your narratives ought to be taken seriously by anyone. That's on You
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  695. @YourRandomBAD The creepy dude in the girl's locker room and showers projecting about his socially bankrupt pro-pedo activism. Can't make this shit up Asking questions to clarify what doesn't make sense to me about your "LARP and activism" and articulating why your narratives seem incoherent-- isn't harassment or a LARP. Science has already established the fact that all mammals are of a binary sexual dichotomy of male/female and that state is fixed and permanent. Your difficulty with that and the fact that a subjective gender identity claim isn't what makes anyone a man or a woman is a you problem, that I unfortunately can't cure for you. Thanks for the invite, but I decline to participate in the cosplay and LARP as though it's based in reality. Happy Halloween though... fyi-- Your disguise doesn't fool anyone but you
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  696. @YourRandomBAD Uh huh... You've not justified the expectation that anyone ought to take your seriously or substantiate your claims as valid
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  697. @YourRandomBAD Cool story... You want us to believe you're over a hundred years old and that accredited experts have been citing you as their validation that biologists are all wrong? Got it! That's Amazing :face-turquoise-covering-eyes:
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  698. @YourRandomBAD No one has proven that a man can become a woman, or that a dude in a dress is anything other than a dude in a dress, and they haven't justified everyone's participation in affirming a delusion or a LARP/cosplay character, as though it's based in reality. When insisting on preferred made up pronouns and creeping in the girl's showers and locker rooms as though you were entitled-- You're rejected because you're not, so you better get used to rejection and develop some coping mechanisms to help you cope harder.
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  699. @YourRandomBAD No, they haven't pdfile
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  700. @YourRandomBAD There's no truth in you. You have been nothing but bad faith from your 1st interaction. You've not justified the expectation that everyone ought to treat men who claim a subjective gender identity of a woman, as though they're women.
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  701.  @andrejv.2834  LOL :face-green-smiling: Male/Man and female/woman are indeed biological categories that ALL mammalian species share in common, and have been recognized since the dawn of time. The social aspects of gender (There are 2 male/female) are gender roles, which are also cross culturally and internationally long established across societies and cultures. There are differences between men and women. Cope Harder
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  702.  @ewlum  Men civilized and built the world you live in. Wake up. There's a difference between males and females
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  703.  @andrejv.2834  And??? Humans are mammals, and all men are adult, human, males, while ALL women are adult, human, females. Did you really not get that or are you just arguing for sport? Ahh, you worship Egyptian gods... What the relevance?? Do you believe in Unicorns, Leprechauns, Bigfoot, and Fairies too?
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  704.  @andrejv.2834  Sure it does. You not understanding the answer is all you. Of course man and woman aren't used for other mammals. Man and woman are only used to describe adult, humans. How is this a controversial matter for you??? Male and female are used for all mammals. An adult, human male is a man. An adult, human female is a woman. C'mon You didn't answer any of my questions at all. It seems communicating is not your forte
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  705.  @andrejv.2834  You're arguing for the sake of argument. Male and female are used for the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species. Obvious to anyone with a functioning prefrontal cortex, is that man and woman are only used to describe adult humans. Did you really not get that?? Quit inappropriately conflating gender (there are 2 male/female) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender and gender roles, as though they're synonymous. They're Not The gender roles of societies have long been established, cross-culturally and internationally. Bottom line, the vast majority of people on the earth reject the trans-activist ideological narrative as pure madness of the mind. Cope Harder
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  706.  @ewlum  That isn't much of a refutation junior. You need to up your game. Cope Harder... Did you even pass the 8th grade?
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  707.  @andrejv.2834  What I said was, Male/Man and female/woman are indeed biological categories-- (All males are a biological category and all men are adult males-- also a biological category) that ALL mammalian species share in common (The biological category was the focus and subject). You're still conflating gender, personality traits and temperament and gender roles. A man (for example) fulfilling the gender role of a woman, would still be a man-- Not unlike a drag queen. Every 'trans' person is performative. It's just mimicry.
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  708.  @andrejv.2834  If you choose to be a counter-culture individual, quit acting like society has to embrace you and your counter-culture choices. Cope Harder kid. The world doesn't owe you special favor
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  709.  @andrejv.2834  Yes, I know, and I explained that. Why were you under the impression that we were speaking about other than humans, as the focal point of the comments? Not all males are adult men and not all females are adult women. Try to focus on the salient points Quit your gaslighting... I never said gender = personality. I said you were conflating them, as though they were the same, and then pointed out that they're not synonymous. If you're trying to prove that your shoe size dwarfs your IQ with your inane comments... Good Job! Cope and seethe if you must, but men can't become women and women can't become men. Take your time to process reality
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  710.  @TheDuchy-d3h  Psych issues are not uncommon, causing exactly that sort of behavior.
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  711.  @andrejv.2834  Q1. Answer: Because not all males are adult males aka men Q2. Answer: Because a man is an adult, human, male-- and a horse is not. Gender refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively-- as I stated in my initial comment. You're conflating gender with personality and masculinity and femininity.
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  712.  @andrejv.2834  It's something observed by the physician who delivers the child, and when he attests to the child's sex/gender on their certificate of live birth, with his signature is "assigns" his findings as true and factual. That's what that means. Now you know You're conflating personality traits (which are not gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. The roles of males and females vary cross-culturally, but has been well-established among the various cultures, and to pretend otherwise is short-sighted at best.
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  713.  @andrejv.2834  Look, you can have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon from Star Trek for all I care, but it won't actually make you a Klingon, and anyone who believes it does-- is delusional.
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  714. LOL. He hasn't justified the expectation that women should just shut up and accept men w/ psych issues and men w/ gender identity claims, counter to objective reality-- in their women's only spaces and organizations (Sports leagues/teams), showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, restrooms and prisons. Got anything?
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  715. @YourRandomBAD A tale of fantasy, no doubt. You've been thoroughly invalidated
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  716. @YourRandomBAD You seem triggered by my questioning the narratives... Look how many threads you've started and blown up with your triggered rants, admitting to doing it in the name of trolling. Looks pathological... You should get that looked into. I was looking for signs of intelligent life and honest answers to good faith questions, and no one has stepped up. Not a good look for those seeking affirmation, acceptance, compassion or validation-- from those they wish to persuade. Just saying...
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  717. @YourRandomBAD Remaining substance free... who'd thought. Rejected.
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  718. @YourRandomBAD You failing to justify your narratives as valid= Invalid and unjustified
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  719. @YourRandomBAD You fail to justify your expectation of everyone's participation in your therapy, and you've failed to justify your sense of self-entitlement- and that's why you're facing push back against your narratives and face rejection. Well, that and your abrasive and No-class, lack of interpersonal skills and hostility and while you're playing the victim and acting like you're owed respect. You get what you give dude.
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  720. @YourRandomBAD Not much of a rebuttal from the resident court jester
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  721. @YourRandomBAD No doubt the response you should expect, as an answer to your appeal for validation
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  722. @YourRandomBAD The amount of time you spend on these replies, refuting nothing, disproving none of the scrutiny, and proving even less -- is really something dude. It's why your narratives are rejected as invalid. You like to argue, and so do I... The difference is your arguments are void of substance and truth and unable to withstand scrutiny
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  723.  @ryanshark6  The arrogance mixed with the ignorance. Gen Z is doomed
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  724. @YourRandomBAD Says the creepy, triggered dude-- who preys on women and kids You're so triggered. Comedy Gold.
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  725. @YourRandomBAD You're projecting and/or admitting, and accepting the title of predator-- being a predator who preys on women and kids. Get some help creep
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  726.  @transally1243  Get some help about the difference between reality and your trans confusion
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  727. @YourRandomBAD You're full of 💩. There isn't a biologist anywhere who advocates that what makes a man or a woman is a subjective gender identity claim because wait for it... it isn't, it's a matter of biology
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  728. @YourRandomBAD The creepy dude in the girl's locker room and showers projecting about his socially bankrupt pro-pedo activism. Can't make this shit up Asking questions to clarify what doesn't make sense to me about your "LARP and activism" and articulating why your narratives seem incoherent-- isn't harassment or a LARP. Science has already established the fact that all mammals are of a binary sexual dichotomy of male/female and that state is fixed and permanent. Your difficulty with that and the fact that a subjective gender identity claim isn't what makes anyone a man or a woman is a you problem, that I unfortunately can't cure for you. Thanks for the invite, but I decline to participate in the cosplay and LARP as though it's based in reality. Happy Halloween though... fyi-- Your disguise doesn't fool anyone but you
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  729. @YourRandomBAD A dude creeping in the girl's locker room and showers-- projecting about his socially bankrupt pro-pedo activism; looks like you're the predator, from here
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  730. @YourRandomBAD Your costume isn't fooling anyone into believing you're a woman, dude. Happy Halloween
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  731. @YourRandomBAD No doubt what you hear often, when insisting on preferred pronouns and creeping the girls showers
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  732. @YourRandomBAD There's no truth in you. Your projection is evident in your triggered mass posting of garbage. The expectation that anyone ought to treat men with issues, as though they're women is yet to be justified by you or anyone else. Cowards one and all
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  733.  @cronex1828  What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, costumes, or preferences. That you/they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's your/their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you/they wished they were.
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  734. Women aren't the threat to men, that men are to women.
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  735. @YourRandomBAD My answer to the OP stands. You're clearly triggered. Seethe if you must, then, just cope harder
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  736. @YourRandomBAD You don't intimidate anyone. You have thoroughly failed to prove any of your assertions as valid. You certainly haven't proven that a man with severe anxiety about his gender, and who identifies as a woman is justified to infiltrate women's only spaces as a matter of entitlement.
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  737. @YourRandomBAD Ooh, if I keep questioning questionable statements by the trans advocates you're going to continue to make irrelevant claims and continue to make a spectacle of yourself. Okay... Go for it! That isn't going to earn anyone affirmation, acceptance or validation, but ya-- you do you
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  738. @YourRandomBAD Those aren't study's proving anything. That's just a list of organizations. LOL
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  739. @YourRandomBAD Cite one peer reviewed study that proves a man can become a woman. Just 1... I'll wait 🦗🦗🦗
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  740. @YourRandomBAD I'm still waiting for you to cite even a single peer reviewed study showing that a man can become a woman, and until you do-- your arguments are hollow
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  741. @YourRandomBAD No, you have not. Look, if a dude in a dress is the 'woman' for you-- go for it. You're gay... whatever floats your boat, but it doesn't make him a her
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  742. @YourRandomBAD Sure I can. I know someone who is trans and dates girls. He knows he's a dude. There are no trans people. All people are male or female and that state is fixed and permanently fixed in objective reality. Way too many conflate gender/sex- Biology (There are only 2 male/female... That's it), with gender roles (Social constructs referring to the roles of males and females in society), and again with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys), as though they're synonymous. They're Not. Your subjective sense of self and subjective gender identity, or sexual preferences aren't what make you or anyone else a man or a woman-- it's biology. Now you know better
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  743. @YourRandomBAD The thing is, neither your acceptance, approval, acknowledgment, nor validation is required... I was never trying to persuade you to do anything other than justify your narratives against my scrutiny, and you failed to do so. No Worries That's you and yours, seeking those things from the rest of the majority of society, who aren't buying your narratives, and reject the expectation that their participation in your LARP and cosplay is required. tata
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  744. @YourRandomBAD The trans clown act is indeed a clown act. Dudes who chop off their junk, pretending they're girls are just dudes who've chopped off their junk. Cope or not... It's true and nothing you say will change that
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  745. @YourRandomBAD No, science has long established the binary sexual dichotomy of all mammals as male/female, which is a fixed and permanent state. A man with severe anxiety about reality and his gender, who chooses to wear a dress and present as a woman isn't a woman. They're a dude in a dress w/ issues If a dude in a dress is your idea of the 'woman' for you, you're gay... So, Go be Happy and quit whining.
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  746. @YourRandomBAD Hope this helps: Open Letter in Support of Dr. Kenneth Zucker and the Need to Promote Robust Scientific Debate Sponsored by FAIR in Medicine May 5, 2023 We, the undersigned signatories, are expressing our support for Dr. Kenneth Zucker, an academically robust and unbiased editorial process at the Archives of Sexual Behavior, and uninterrupted publication of “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria: Parent Reports on 1655 Possible Cases” by Diaz and Bailey. We condemn and reject the censorious demands being directed at Springer Nature, the company that publishes Archives of Sexual Behavior, that this paper be retracted, and that the editor of the journal, Dr. Zucker, be sanctioned for allowing the paper’s publication. The appropriate action is to have an open debate about the paper—not to silence those whose views one finds disagreeable. Currently as many as one in 10–20 youth report gender dysphoria. The paper by Diaz and Bailey adds to the growing body of knowledge about the various factors contributing to the rapid rise of adolescent-onset gender dysphoria–a phenomenon that was exceedingly rare in the past. Specifically, the paper engages with parental reports of the cases of “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria,” or ROGD. The ROGD hypothesis posits that in some cases, gender dysphoria in adolescence may be mediated by social factors. The potential viability of the ROGD hypothesis has been endorsed not only by the parents, as described by Diaz and Bailey, but also by the clinicians working with this patient population, and the affected patients themselves. If it proves to be correct, then the treatment approaches to this novel population of adolescents may need to be different, including the possibility that such cases may benefit from less invasive interventions that do not carry the irreversible effects of hormonal and surgical interventions known as “gender-affirming care.” The concern that the currently-presenting gender dysphoric youth are different from the originally-studied cases, and that they may be better helped by psychotherapy, has also been expressed by the originators of the “Dutch” protocol for gender-transitioning minors. We are particularly disappointed that among the signatories demanding that the research be retracted is the current President of WPATH. WPATH recently acknowledged the role of social influence as a possible contributing factor to gender dysphoria in adolescents, saying: “For a select subgroup of young people, susceptibility to social influence impacting gender may be an important differential to consider.” (Coleman et al., 2022, p. 45) Signing a demand to retract one of the very few papers examining the possible influence of social factors is inconsistent with WPATH’s own statements. We are aware of the allegation that a lack of an Institutional Review Board approval of this publication warrants a retraction. However, this is demonstrably false. Springer’s policies explicitly allow the Editor-in-Chief the discretion to accept a publication that has not sought IRB approval. The first author of this study was not affiliated with a university and did not need to seek IRB approval. Further, we are aware that the activists are alleging that the paper’s methodology was biased by only relying on parental reports. However, parental reports are commonly used to gather information about children and adolescents. A highly influential paper in the field that is often cited to support social transition for youth also relied on parental reports. However, in this case the methodology was not criticized. The difference appears to be that in this example, the parents supported their children’s gender transition, whereas in the Diaz and Bailey paper, the parents were concerned with the risks of inappropriate medicalization of their children. Unfortunately, this is not the first time journals and researchers who dare explore the subject of ROGD have been targeted for cancellation. What is currently happening to the Diaz and Bailey paper bears a marked resemblance to the prior attempt to silence the original “ROGD” paper by Lisa Littman, MD. Under tremendous pressure from critics, PLOS ONE subjected the paper to a second round of peer review post-publication. The paper withstood this unprecedented scrutiny, with its results unchanged. To quote Jeffrey S. Flier, MD, the 21st Dean of Harvard Medical School, who wrote eloquently about the the attempts to silence research into ROGD, “Many papers face questions after they have been published, which is well and proper: the systematic assessment and scrutiny of published work is a core method by which the scientific community corrects errors, and builds upon imperfect preliminary observations…But that is not what has happened…. [the] critics have not performed any systematic analysis of her findings, but seem principally motivated by ideological opposition to [the] conclusions. We fear that just like in the case of the original ROGD paper, the demands for retraction and sanctioning of Dr. Zucker, the Editor-in-Chief are principally motivated by the ideological opposition to Diaz and Bailey’s conclusion. Because of Dr. Zucker’s unique experience in the field and his role as the Editor-in-Chief, the journal, Archives of Sexual Behavior, has become a formidable force in the growing debate about how to best care for the rapidly growing numbers of gender-diverse youth. Dr. Zucker has demonstrated neutrality by routinely publishing articles on both sides of this contentious issue. While the paper by Diaz and Bailey–like all research–has limitations, it is vital to continue to study the ROGD hypothesis. Ongoing attempts to silence any research into the explosion of teens who are now identifying as transgender only stands to hurt the very patients the activists are claiming to help–young gender nonconforming people. We, the undersigned signatories, ask that Springer Nature, the company that publishes Archives of Sexual Behavior, takes a nuanced view of this situation, examines the context in which these complaints have been leveled, and chooses to uphold the principles and practice of scientific discussion, debate, and freedom of expression by rejecting calls to retract the paper “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria: Parent Reports on 1655 Possible Cases” by Diaz and Bailey and refusing to sanction Dr. Kenneth Zucker for his decision to publish the paper.
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  747. @YourRandomBAD Dude, you're triggered. Look at yourself sperging. If a dude in a dress is your idea of the 'woman' for you, Fine... You're gay, so go be happy. Your subjective identity claims isn't what makes you a man or a woman-- it's your biology, and no one has proven that a man with severe anxiety about reality or his gender/sex is anything other than a man. Cope with that
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  748. @YourRandomBAD If a dude in a dress is the 'woman' for you, you're gay-- so, Go be happy and quit your triggered nonsense
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  749. @YourRandomBAD So, that's a No-- you have no justification to justify biological men being granted access to violate women's only private spaces, and organizations as though they're somehow entitled.
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  750. @YourRandomBAD Not one of those 73 studies you're referring to prove a man can become a woman. Until they do, all your arguments are just whining and hot air. Dudes w/ psych issues have no business infiltrating women's only spaces and organizations, regardless of their beliefs, anxiety or claims about their gender identity. Your strawman arguments, sophistry, cult terminology and gaslighting are rejected as invalid
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  751. @YourRandomBAD Never happened. You like to just make sh~t up as you go huh? Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex (There are only 2-- male/female... That's it) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles (without exception refer to the roles of males and females in society) as though they're synonymous and they are not. I can copy paste the definitions for you again, if you need. I do you the favor and repost the definitions for you: Gender Roles are Social Constructs referring to the roles of males and females in society. Gender/Sex is biological (There are only 2 male/female... That's it), and that state is fixed and permanent among ALL mammalian species. Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles, as though they're synonymous, and they are not. Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. DEFINITIONS: Cf. “Sex”. Both terms (“Gender” and “Sex”) originate from Latin words: “Genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). In other words, sex and gender are synonymous. So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;)
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  752. @YourRandomBAD Says the side who dresses up and pretends to be girls. The definitions have meanings. You choosing to rename and redefine terms doesn't alter the nature of the dude you're calling something else. Your sophistry, obfuscation, and cult terms are rejected. The problem you have to overcome is objective reality/ Name your preferred country
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  753. @YourRandomBAD You act like a total douche nozzle and have the nerve to act like a victim because people don't just put up with it, and accept your BS as truth. Get a grip on reality
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  754. @YourRandomBAD Your projection is noted and quite predictable. You have not proven that a man who claims a subjective gender identity claim of being a woman, is anything other than a man. You're not a Klingon or a Romulan if you identify as a Klingon or Romulan either, dude. Get Real There's no biologists anywhere who would validate the nonsensical claim that a subjective gender identity is what establishes gender/sex, because it's biology which does that, and in all mammalian species gender/sex is fixed and permanent. You inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender with gender roles as though they're synonymous, and they aren't.
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  755. @YourRandomBAD If a dude in a dress is the 'woman' for you, go for it. You can pretend all you want. I have no issue with that. I identify as someone who doesn't have to participate in the LARP and cosplay, much less affirm it as valid. If some dude prancing around in a fairy princess costume, identifying as a fairy princess is (to you) a fairy princess... it means you're not too bright. Happy Halloween Same for a cross dresser who says they identify as the opposite sex. Happy Halloween... You're a dude in a dress
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  756. @YourRandomBAD Yes, my issues are: no one being able to justify why men should be expecting to have women just shut up and put up with their presence in women's only spaces and organizations as though the men are somehow entitled, and no justification that everyone should be expected to participate in the LARP and cosplay and pretend they don't know the difference between a woman and a dude in a dress, forced to use compelled speech, and pretend that a man is a woman. You haven't helped to justify any of it. You're not persuasive at all
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  757. @YourRandomBAD This is directly from the writer and tenured board member at WPATH, Ken Zucker: Not to mention the leaked wpath files showing doctors themselves do not think these kids are mentally mature enough to consent to the surgeries. Kenneth Zucker et Al 2021: 88 percent of trans women desisted after 20 years. 93% resorted to homosexuality vs affirmation treatment with a self delete rate nearly 10x's higher than the general population at nearly 40%, doesn't appear to be validating the 1% 'regret rate' claim-- as accurate (looks like a huge net loss to me, being that gays have a self-delete rate closer to the general population, at around 4% comparatively)-- in NO way justifies claims of affirmation-based treatment protocols as efficacious. Swedish study: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group. A 2020 academic study with a sample size of 372 respondents found that 40 percent of transgender people had attempted suicide. Similarly, in 2016, the National Transgender Discrimination Survey found that 41 percent of 6,450 respondents said they had previously attempted suicide. By comparison, the CDC found that in 2020, 0.36 percent of the population had attempted suicide. According to a 2022 survey by The Trevor Project, an LGBTQ+ suicide prevention organization, nearly 1 in 5 young people who identified as transgender or non-binary have attempted suicide. According to a 2019 UCLA School of Law- Williams Institute report on the thoughts and attempts of self deleting-- the Reports shows that The 2015 U.S. Transgender Survey (USTS), which is the largest survey of transgender people in the U.S. to date, found that 81.7 percent of respondents reported ever seriously thinking about suicide in their lifetimes, while 48.3 percent had done so in the past year. In regard to suicide attempts, 40.4 percent reported attempting suicide at some point in their lifetimes. Although the research literature to date agrees that transgender people are at an elevated risk of suicide thoughts and attempts, there is still much to learn about why transgender people are particularly at risk. Also, the conclusion of the Swedish study, which concluded that persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity-- than the general population. The findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group. When the rate of self deletes among the general population is 10x's lower, and when studies showing that up to 90% desist and end up gay, with only a 4% self delete rate by contrast, the results of affirmation-based treatment protocols are horrible by contrast, making it's justification questionable at best. You may believe wearing your Halloween princess costume makes you an actual princess, but you're only fooling yourself. It doesn't Did you see the Hillary Cass report? She is against early social transition because it puts the kids down a path of confusion … Why don’t trans activists listen ? Lol... YouTube “gender identity services in England - a cass review”. Cass called out the hypocrisy in the old diagnostic criteria … She asked for increased diagnostic criteria, she asked for the removal of the old pink/ blue system She wants increased treatment range to not include gender affirming care. AP- A major UK report says trans kids are being let down by toxic… “Dr. Hilary Cass said there is “no good evidence on the long-term outcomes of interventions to manage gender-related distress,” and young people have been caught up in a “stormy social discourse” about the issue.” Cass’ report, which runs to almost 400 pages, said that “for most young people, a medical pathway” is not the best way to deal with gender-related issues. “Cass said young people questioning their gender identity should be given “a holistic assessment” including screening for neurodevelopmental conditions such as autism, and a mental health assessment.” In her report, Cass said there was “no clear evidence” that social transition in childhood — such as changing names or pronouns — has any positive or negative mental health outcomes. “The report also concluded that there is no simple explanation for why the number of young people identifying as transgender has shot up in recent years in the U.K. and other countries.” 13:27 - conversation is about hormones. She says early social transition and medicalization greatly influence one into a path of surgical transition …. Just listen to her for a few minutes. Listen to 16:00 specifically for social transition. I agree with her This new study just published last month that I already listed “Risk of Suicide and Self-Harm Following Gender-Affirmation Surgery” Individuals who underwent gender-affirming surgery had a 12.12-fold higher suicide attempt risk than those who did not (3.47% vs. 0.29%, RR 95% CI 9.20-15.96, p < 0.0001). “Gender-affirming surgery is significantly associated with elevated suicide attempt risks, underlining the necessity for comprehensive post-procedure psychiatric support.” Doesn't look like efficacious results to me. It seems quite inadequate and unacceptable
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  758. @YourRandomBAD Wrong... Gender is biological (There are only 2 male/female... That's it). Gender Roles are a social construct referring to the roles of males and females in society. Quit conflating them as though they're synonymous. They're not
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  759. @YourRandomBAD Still nothing relevant... shocker /s You've been spending so much energy trolling, instead of justifying and establishing a plausible reason for consideration by those who don't understand or who disagree. My experiment has been to see if there were any good faith responses, to my questions, and scrutiny of the claims made by various commenters-- and there has been none. THAT says something, and it really isn't a good look for you. Just you clowns trolling, and acting like petulant anarchists running rampant with nothing of substance-- just your anti-social antics and trolling, Nothing worthy of acceptance, affirmation, consideration, compassion, Legitimization, or Validation. It's as though you don't realize that anyone who was actually interested in your shenanigans, thinking it was establishing the trans-activist, ideological, cult narrative as legitimate is blocking their own agenda. It's like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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  760. @YourRandomBAD It's not there for you. It's there to highlight your hollow narratives
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  761. @YourRandomBAD You do if you expect everyone's participation in the LARP and cosplay as though you're somehow entitled or justified, and expect acceptance, affirmation, or validation
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  762. @YourRandomBAD You either can articulate intelligent thoughts which lend credibility to your narratives or you can't. If and when you don't, either way-- you're not likely to sway the thoughts of those who the trans activists say they're wanting to appeal to for acceptance, affirmation, and validation-- which requires their willingness to participate in your LARP and cosplay. Brilliant!! You're sabotaging their agenda acting like a double agent trans activist agent provocateur, who highlights how ridiculous the claims are. Never mind, you're just a troll making a spectacle of himself. I know... You need a friend
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  763. @YourRandomBAD No doubt, what you report cards illustrates. You've not proven to be the brightest most articulate clear thinker. The vast majority of people on earth don't buy what you're selling. Cope Harder, then-- seethe if you must... It really doesn't matter. When men vote to eliminate women's rights by insisting they themselves are women, and that women need to shut up and cope with it, -- is the ultimate display of misogyny.
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  764. @YourRandomBAD Your narratives are bogus/invalid and are unjustified. You look pretty triggered from here. Relax... I'm not trying to persuade you. I was looking for signs of intelligent life and a possible justification for the expectation that everyone must participate in your clown show, and affirm it, as though it was valid-- and I got you instead, who failed to do so. Good Job LOL
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  765. @YourRandomBAD In fact, it's irrelevant. There are a lot of people with various psych issues and none of them make it possible for a biological being like a man-- to become a woman/female, regardless of their psych condition.
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  766. @YourRandomBAD You've been ineffective at justifying your narratives as valid, so they're rejected. It's not complicated. Your appeal for validation, affirmation and acceptance for being something you're not and can never be is rejected, because deciphering reality from your woman-face costume isn't difficult.
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  767. @YourRandomBAD Says the creepy dude who preys on women and kids... Ahhh the irony. Pure comedy gold. You're a meme of yourself
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  768. @YourRandomBAD No matter how many times you make that false allegation, like your incoherent trans narratives... Still not true, and you have zero evidence to prove it
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  769. @YourRandomBAD Nothing from you, justifying your expectation that anyone is obligated to participate in your clown show or showing your ideological claims as valid
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  770. @YourRandomBAD No doubt what you expect to hear often, when insisting on preferred pronouns and creeping in the girl's showers and locker rooms as though you were entitled-- but you're not, so you better get used to rejection and develop some coping mechanisms to help you cope harder
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  771. @YourRandomBAD There's no truth in you. Your projection is evident in your triggered mass posting of garbage. The expectation that anyone ought to treat men with issues, as though they're women is yet to be justified by you or anyone else. Cowards one and all
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  772.  @toolazytomakegoodhandle  It has to do with the fact that areas and organizations designed for, designated for and implemented for girls/women are done so based on their biology is female-- Not some socially constructed gender identity claims
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  773. 'Transphobe' is a toothless, cult term used to pretend that men can be women, and to shut down scrutiny. They can't escape objective reality. Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in his/her womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate him/herself). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender. Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;) Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex (There are only 2-- male/female... That's it) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles (without exception refer to the roles of males and females in society) as though they're synonymous and they are not. Science has already proven that the binary dichotomy of all mammals is male/female. A man in a dress is still a man A man with anxiety about his sex/gender-- still a man A man calling himself a woman-- still a man A man with an effeminate personality--still a man Seethe if you must, then just cope harder You/They haven't put forth no reasoning that withstands scrutiny, rendering your/their narratives and opinions as less than useless and therefore invalid. Your incoherent rants and claims of legitimacy, are figments of your imagination. Reality isn't an anti-trans ideology. Trans is an anti-reality ideology, and they're the ones seeking affirmation, validation, and the participation of everyone in their larp and cosplay, based on the belief that their subjective delusions are based in reality. Newsflash: They aren't
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  774. @YourRandomBAD The trans clown act is indeed a clown act. Dudes who chop off their junk, pretending they're girls are just dudes who've chopped off their junk. Cope or not... It's true and nothing you say will change that
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  775. @YourRandomBAD Open Letter in Support of Dr. Kenneth Zucker and the Need to Promote Robust Scientific Debate Sponsored by FAIR in Medicine May 5, 2023 We, the undersigned signatories, are expressing our support for Dr. Kenneth Zucker, an academically robust and unbiased editorial process at the Archives of Sexual Behavior, and uninterrupted publication of “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria: Parent Reports on 1655 Possible Cases” by Diaz and Bailey. We condemn and reject the censorious demands being directed at Springer Nature, the company that publishes Archives of Sexual Behavior, that this paper be retracted, and that the editor of the journal, Dr. Zucker, be sanctioned for allowing the paper’s publication. The appropriate action is to have an open debate about the paper—not to silence those whose views one finds disagreeable. Currently as many as one in 10–20 youth report gender dysphoria. The paper by Diaz and Bailey adds to the growing body of knowledge about the various factors contributing to the rapid rise of adolescent-onset gender dysphoria–a phenomenon that was exceedingly rare in the past. Specifically, the paper engages with parental reports of the cases of “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria,” or ROGD. The ROGD hypothesis posits that in some cases, gender dysphoria in adolescence may be mediated by social factors. The potential viability of the ROGD hypothesis has been endorsed not only by the parents, as described by Diaz and Bailey, but also by the clinicians working with this patient population, and the affected patients themselves. If it proves to be correct, then the treatment approaches to this novel population of adolescents may need to be different, including the possibility that such cases may benefit from less invasive interventions that do not carry the irreversible effects of hormonal and surgical interventions known as “gender-affirming care.” The concern that the currently-presenting gender dysphoric youth are different from the originally-studied cases, and that they may be better helped by psychotherapy, has also been expressed by the originators of the “Dutch” protocol for gender-transitioning minors. We are particularly disappointed that among the signatories demanding that the research be retracted is the current President of WPATH. WPATH recently acknowledged the role of social influence as a possible contributing factor to gender dysphoria in adolescents, saying: “For a select subgroup of young people, susceptibility to social influence impacting gender may be an important differential to consider.” (Coleman et al., 2022, p. 45) Signing a demand to retract one of the very few papers examining the possible influence of social factors is inconsistent with WPATH’s own statements. We are aware of the allegation that a lack of an Institutional Review Board approval of this publication warrants a retraction. However, this is demonstrably false. Springer’s policies explicitly allow the Editor-in-Chief the discretion to accept a publication that has not sought IRB approval. The first author of this study was not affiliated with a university and did not need to seek IRB approval. Further, we are aware that the activists are alleging that the paper’s methodology was biased by only relying on parental reports. However, parental reports are commonly used to gather information about children and adolescents. A highly influential paper in the field that is often cited to support social transition for youth also relied on parental reports. However, in this case the methodology was not criticized. The difference appears to be that in this example, the parents supported their children’s gender transition, whereas in the Diaz and Bailey paper, the parents were concerned with the risks of inappropriate medicalization of their children. Unfortunately, this is not the first time journals and researchers who dare explore the subject of ROGD have been targeted for cancellation. What is currently happening to the Diaz and Bailey paper bears a marked resemblance to the prior attempt to silence the original “ROGD” paper by Lisa Littman, MD. Under tremendous pressure from critics, PLOS ONE subjected the paper to a second round of peer review post-publication. The paper withstood this unprecedented scrutiny, with its results unchanged. To quote Jeffrey S. Flier, MD, the 21st Dean of Harvard Medical School, who wrote eloquently about the the attempts to silence research into ROGD, “Many papers face questions after they have been published, which is well and proper: the systematic assessment and scrutiny of published work is a core method by which the scientific community corrects errors, and builds upon imperfect preliminary observations…But that is not what has happened…. [the] critics have not performed any systematic analysis of her findings, but seem principally motivated by ideological opposition to [the] conclusions. We fear that just like in the case of the original ROGD paper, the demands for retraction and sanctioning of Dr. Zucker, the Editor-in-Chief are principally motivated by the ideological opposition to Diaz and Bailey’s conclusion. Because of Dr. Zucker’s unique experience in the field and his role as the Editor-in-Chief, the journal, Archives of Sexual Behavior, has become a formidable force in the growing debate about how to best care for the rapidly growing numbers of gender-diverse youth. Dr. Zucker has demonstrated neutrality by routinely publishing articles on both sides of this contentious issue. While the paper by Diaz and Bailey–like all research–has limitations, it is vital to continue to study the ROGD hypothesis. Ongoing attempts to silence any research into the explosion of teens who are now identifying as transgender only stands to hurt the very patients the activists are claiming to help–young gender nonconforming people. We, the undersigned signatories, ask that Springer Nature, the company that publishes Archives of Sexual Behavior, takes a nuanced view of this situation, examines the context in which these complaints have been leveled, and chooses to uphold the principles and practice of scientific discussion, debate, and freedom of expression by rejecting calls to retract the paper “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria: Parent Reports on 1655 Possible Cases” by Diaz and Bailey and refusing to sanction Dr. Kenneth Zucker for his decision to publish the paper.
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  776.  @Topatos-dg4ud  Considering that 80% of the world's population is religious, a considerable number. That sound you're hearing is the sound of rejection, by the vast vast majority of people on the earth, of the trans-activist ideological narratives.
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  777.  @mobcrusher99  What's your point? You think other major religions don't differentiate between males and females?? Really???
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  778.  @mobcrusher99  I never said they did, but you seem to think your statement invalidates the fact that a considerable number of people world wide don't have difficulty discerning the differences between males and females, and all of the various religions have established moral standards
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  779.  @mobcrusher99  It seems you have difficulty deciphering the differences between males and females-- when the trans-activists state that a trans woman is a woman-- since they're not any kind of woman, being that ALL women are born female.
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  780. That's wrong. By signing the certificate of live birth, attesting to their observations, the physician "assigns". There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. That status is fixed and permanent. Trans women are MEN with "issues", pretending that they're women without issues. That sound you're hearing is the sound of men and women everywhere, rejecting the trans-activist, ideological narrative for the incoherent madness that it is. Don't believe me... verify with Budweiser, Target, and Disney
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  781.  @N0THlNG-2-C-H3R3  B I N G O
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  782.  @Sentient-potato  They are the best chefs
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  783.  RealQuarlie  That's false. You're only kidding yourself to deny that the trans activist narratives claim that trans women ARE women. The arguments just don't withstand the scrutiny because life is based in reality, and the trans imagination just doesn't override people's capacity for discernment
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  784. There is no h8 involved in recognizing that a man in a dress-- is a man. That's just being observant. What are you talking about??
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  785.  @ihatey0y  Women, ALL of them-- are born female and all men are born male. There are exactly ZERO exceptions. DNA dictates the production of objective biological differences between males and females. 100% of the population is either male or female, even intersex people. If they have a Y chromosome, they are heterogametic and male. If not, they are homogametic and female. But you knew that because you've actually educated yourself on these conditions, right? Intersex??? Really??? That's a physiological genetic condition, not a psych condition. Intersex is a birth defect, and the exceptions to the rule don't invalidate the rule-- they prove the rule by being the exceptions. Personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive -- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), aren't synonymous with gender or gender roles. There is no internal feeling that is exclusive to men or women (or boys/girls), what makes anyone a man or a woman is being either male or female and reaching adulthood. Their sex and stage of physical maturity makes them men or women, not some "feeling" they have. Believing there is some "essence" specific to males or female as far as feelings go, that can manifest "in the wrong body", is akin to a religious belief, having faith in something that is impossible to prove or disprove. The thing is though, that no one on the "trans" side can actually even explain what this "essence" is, they can't even explain it to themselves yet have convinced themselves that the feeling they have means they "are in the wrong body" - without realizing that their discomfort simply stems from not realizing that they view conforming to sexist stereotypes as legitimate measures of manhood or womanhood. That is why every explanation given of WHY a male "can't be a man, but is instead woman" etc. relies upon listing stereotypical stuff, or, in some cases is completely abstract and refuses to actually provide any explanation of what they mean, simply stating they "know" that what they feel means what they say it does, even though they can't actually provide a definition of it. "It's hard to explain but I know I'm right" is an attitude one constantly comes up against - a religious faith in something they can't define. This idea that the terms "man" and "woman" carry all this baggage, sexist stereotypes, that people need to live up to or feel comfortable with is a complete fabrication coming from the "trans" side. You lot want a term to reflect aspects of your personality as well, you want to create more boxes to put people in, as you won't accept simply just being a man or a woman based on being born male or female (and reaching adulthood, obviously people are boys and girls before becoming men or women), but believe you need this "freedom of expression" to broadcast what sexist stereotypes you feel more comfortable with - thinking the world needs to adopt the sexist view you lot have (you fail to see just how much you have in common with Conservatives). Replacing objective definitions which are based in physical reality, with entirely subjective metaphysical claims, is not logical in any way, is not morally superior, and is demonstrably harmful, not least to female rights and protections, but also to practically anyone that buys into it as it warps people's perception of the underlying issues. It hinders people in their quest for individuation, creating this false narrative of them becoming more "authentic" when the total opposite is true, they believe they need validation from others in order to be happy etc. instead of being encouraged to find more inner strength and resilience with less reliance on how people see them. Demanding to be legally recognized as the opposite sex of what one is, is in no way shape or form more authentic than accepting the physical reality one is born into. To believe individuals can have 100% control over their identity in society, how they are seen by others, in interaction with, and in relation to, society/the world/physical existence is a fool's errand. It is a delusional understanding of reality and existence. Now, you know better
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  786.  @ihatey0y  Feel free to remain ignorant, but we both know you already read it, and have nothing to intellectually sound, in response-- because I'm correct, and you and the incoherent ideological narrative that you subscribe to simply don't stand up to scrutiny.
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  787. I call them trans trenders akin to Goth 2.0
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  788. @YourRandomBAD Quit your sniveling. Seethe if you must, but the trans clown act is indeed a clown act. Dudes who chop off their junk, pretending they're girls are just dudes who've chopped off their junk. Cope or not... It's true and nothing you say will change that
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  789. @YourRandomBAD Just observing the woke cope and your triggered gnashing of teeth and salty tears of you screaming, "It's Ma'am" is just pure comedy gold. Reality called and said get a clue. All men are born male, all women are born female and their subjective gender identity claims don't change that
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  790. @YourRandomBAD Sure, sure... If a man presenting as a "woman" is the 'woman' for you-- you're gay. Have at it
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  791. @YourRandomBAD If fact, that has nothing to do with the fact that men can't become women or trying to justify why anyone ought to participate in the trans fantasy
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  792. @YourRandomBAD Pure comedy gold... I don't give a crap about the DSM. I am not confused about the fact that people have various psych issues and that not all of them are fixable, and I am under no delusion that a man is anything other than a biological being, not a social construct or subjective identity claim
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  793. @YourRandomBAD You are confused about the fact that you haven't proven anything I've said is incorrect or inaccurate in any way whatsoever. You're just trolling, and have established zero credibility. You're the one who's failed to justify your expectation that men dressed as women insisting they're not men- rather are women, are entitled to disregard women's only spaces as a matter of entitlement because of a subjective gender identity claim, and they should just shut up and accept that, because you don't GAF, so What's your point? Rules for me and not for thee? GTFOH
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  794. @YourRandomBAD Feel better? You look ridiculous
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  795. @YourRandomBAD He says, after all his triggered posts. Comedy Gold 🤡
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  796. @YourRandomBAD That's fine... Feel better?
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  797. @YourRandomBAD You just missed me... I get it... You're lonely and have no friends. Perhaps you should consider a comfort pet
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  798. @YourRandomBAD Sure... sure... Your expectation that men dressed as women insisting they're not men- rather are women, are entitled to disregard women's only spaces as a matter of entitlement because of a subjective gender identity claim, and they should just shut up and accept that is the ultimate display of your misogyny, dude. All women are born female and it isn't their subjective gender identity claims which makes them women-- it's their biology. I was only expecting signs of intelligent life, perhaps some integrity-- it's evident those are foreign concepts to you. You're one of those people who's just never happy. Your favorite sport appears to be looking for the next thing you can twist into an excuse for being an angry, woke, hippster, to win the biggest whiny victim trophy possible.
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  799.  @Matcha_Biscuit  Thanks... It's nice to be validated by someone else admitting they see the reality of it too. 🤙
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  800. @YourRandomBAD I noticed none of them proved that a psych disconnect with reality, justified those men's expectation that all of society must now participate in their therapy moving forward, as though they're entitled, or that women should just shut up and take men infiltrating their showers, locker rooms, restrooms, changing rooms, prisons, sports and leagues/teams, because they make a subjective claim and mutilate their bodies to mimic the primary sex characteristics of the opposite sex. None of those prove that a man in a dress w/ a psych disconnect with reality is anything other than a man, either... Just sayin
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  801.  @Sauna4President  That's fine, but-- justify those men's expectation, that all of society must now participate in their therapy moving forward, as though they're entitled, or that women should just shut up and take men infiltrating their showers, locker rooms, restrooms, changing rooms, prisons, sports and leagues/teams, because they make a subjective claim and choose to mimic the primary sex characteristics of the opposite sex.
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  802. @YourRandomBAD There is no such thing as trans gender. All mammalian species are of a binary sexual dichotomy of male and female, respectively and that state is fixed and permanent, including with humans. Your subjective gender identity isn't what makes anyone a man or a woman-- that's DNA/biology. Transgender is a term used by radical ideologues, which is a social construct, which in no way affects anyone's biology. All men are born male, all women are born female and neither is a social construct, feeling, fetish, personality trait or temperament, a preference or a costume, and neither become the other with a subjective gender identity claim and/or LARP or cosplay. Your entire narrative is incoherent, of course, you know and admit you're only trolling for sport-- trying to make the most absurd strawman arguments as possible, while you gish gallop all your sophistry and with all of that-- for what? It's as though you operate as though loud, wrong and rude are the new smart. You need to make a friend
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  803. @YourRandomBAD Cool story... It doesn't prove anything. It starts with a false premise and ends with what amounts to activist propaganda-- arguing that reality "should" be different. "I argue that this view is mistaken. As exogenously produced sex characteristics SHOULD count toward a person's sex classification, all trans women are (or are becoming) female."... Ya, well, they do, but a dude that unnaturally alters his body chemistry, and alters his appearance to resemble the primary physical characteristics of the opposite sex, he doesn't then become a woman. That's totally absurd nonsense
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  804. @YourRandomBAD That's fine... If a dude in a dress is the 'woman' for you-- go for it. It means you're gay, not that he's a woman, but you go ahead with your role play pretend fantasy.
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  805. ​@YourRandomBAD What hatred of minorities? Observing that a thing is false, isn't a statement of h8 or fear. It's just being observant. The scrutiny of your gish gallop and unhinged sophistry doesn't make your case or withstand scrutiny, so... until it does, I'm afraid the appeal for affirmation is denied and rejected, as is the appeal to participate in the clown show.
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  806. @YourRandomBAD 'Transphobia' appears to be used by you as a synonym for what the rest of the world refers to as, ' Common sense'.
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  807. @YourRandomBAD Was that during the time you imagined wearing your fairy princess costume actually made you a fairy princess?
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  808. @YourRandomBAD No doubt the response you should expect, as an answer to your appeal for validation
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  809. @YourRandomBAD The amount of time you spend on these replies, refuting nothing, disproving none of the scrutiny, and proving even less -- is really something dude. It's why your narratives are rejected as invalid You like to argue, and so do I... The difference is your arguments are void of substance and truth and unable to withstand scrutiny
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  810. @YourRandomBAD Meh... You're the one who's failed to justify your expectation that men dressed as women insisting they're not men- rather are women, are entitled to disregard women's only spaces as a matter of entitlement because of a subjective gender identity claim, and that women should just shut up and accept that, because WHY?
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  811.  @firetube8288  Respect is earned not owed, and it's reserved for that which is actually respectable. Respect is a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements.
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  812. @YourRandomBAD No, they don't-- weird and creepy misogynistic dude, who preys on women and kids
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  813. @YourRandomBAD And you wear that badge proud too, pred
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  814. @YourRandomBAD Ya...
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  815. @YourRandomBAD I know, you prey on women and children
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  816. @YourRandomBAD The creepy dude in the girl's locker room and showers projecting about his socially bankrupt pro-pedo activism. Can't make this shit up Asking questions to clarify what doesn't make sense to me about your "LARP and activism" and articulating why your narratives seem incoherent-- isn't harassment or a LARP. Science has already established the fact that all mammals are of a binary sexual dichotomy of male/female and that state is fixed and permanent. Your difficulty with that and the fact that a subjective gender identity claim isn't what makes anyone a man or a woman is a you problem, that I unfortunately can't cure for you. Thanks for the invite, but I decline to participate in the cosplay and LARP as though it's based in reality. Happy Halloween though... fyi-- Your disguise doesn't fool anyone but you
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  817. @YourRandomBAD You're the dude creeping in the girl's locker room and showers-- projecting about his socially bankrupt pro-pedo activism, and look is the only one who looks like a predator here
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  818. @YourRandomBAD Happy Halloween... Your costume doesn't make you a woman, dude
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  819. @YourRandomBAD No doubt what you hear often, when insisting on preferred pronouns and creeping in the girl's showers and locker rooms as though you were entitled
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  820. @YourRandomBAD Pdfiles like you have no moral foundation, and preying on girls and women as though you're entitled to, with no justification-- are the predators and misogynists.
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  821. @YourRandomBAD There's no truth in you. Your projection is evident in your triggered mass posting of garbage. The expectation that anyone ought to treat men with issues, as though they're women is yet to be justified by you or anyone else. Cowards one and all
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  822.  @toolazytomakegoodhandle  What makes a gender identity valid enough to ignore biology?
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  823.  @harperthegoblin  You believe one needs to take a class to discern the differences between males and females? Poor thing
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  824.  @anapontopina86  A woman isn't a social construct, a feeling, a s3xu@l preference or a costume that a man can put on or take off. Women (ALL of them) are born female. Cope Harder
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  825.  @harperthegoblin  The vast majority of society rejects this incoherent, trans-cult narrative. Bottom line men cannot become women and women cannot become men, and if your identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality and participate in your cosplay-- then that identity isn't valid. If you identify as a Klingon, it doesn't make you one
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  826.  @thatsallfolks436  Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively-- which cross-culturally are long established. Too many conflate personality traits and temperament (neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate gender and with s3xu@l preference. Then, they conflate males with females, men with women, science with science-fiction and pseudo-science, and fantasy with reality. A woman isn't a social construct and she isn't a costume that a man can put on or take off. Women (ALL of them) are born female, making the 'cis' distinction entirely irrelevant and useless. Checkmate nothing... Cope harder and seethe if you must. Your incoherent babbling is ridiculous. Rejection is something you better gain some coping skills to deal with, because the vast majority of men and women everywhere are rejecting this incoherent madness
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  827.  @bayonetta3525  Cis is a term used by trans activists, to pretend that there's another kind of woman, other than those born female, and that there's another kind of man, other than those born male BUT-- there isn't. Transphobia is nothing but an attempt by trans activists, to use a toothless slur to smear those who challenge the incoherent claims of the trans-activist ideological narrative, such as trans women are women. That's patently absurd, as ALL women are born female. The way I see it is, there's no hate at all in recognizing a dude in a dress-- as a dude in a dress. That's just being observant
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  828.  @TheBestShirt  Your failure to articulate a well-reasoned response doesn't inspire anyone to take you seriously. Why should a man-- regardless of his anxiety about his gender, be treated as anything other than a man?
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  829. ​ @gryph346  Trans women are men with issues, prancing around as though they're women without issues--Still men All women are born female, All men are born male, and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, or a costume... How do you figure they're any kind of woman??? That's nonsense
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  830.  @gryph346  You can't change your gender. You can only reject traditional gender roles by engaging in various levels of cosplay and LARPing, or not. You could have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon, and it wouldn't make you a Klingon either. A dude with top and bottom surgery and wearing a dress is still a dude, regardless of his desire to be a woman-- he's not and can't ever be, is the point you can't escape. Too bad, so sad. Don't be triggered, just cope harder
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  831. @YourRandomBAD Your commitment to spreading BS is astounding. Gender Roles are Social Constructs referring to the roles of males and females in society. Gender/Sex is biological (There are only 2 male/female... That's it), and that state is fixed and permanent among ALL mammalian species. Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex (There are only 2-- male/female... That's it) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles (without exception refer to the roles of males and females in society) as though they're synonymous and they are not. Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. DEFINITIONS: Cf. “Sex”. Both terms (“Gender” and “Sex”) originate from Latin words: “Genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;) Now, you know better
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  832.  @potatos7078  I don't expect rational thoughts from delusional people, so I'm not surprised that confused people have confusing thoughts.
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  833. If a dude in a dress is the 'woman' for you, congrats... You're gay. I couldn't possibly care any less. No one has yet justified the expectation that girls or women should accept dudes w/ psych issues in their showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, prisons, etc... Got anything ???
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  834.  @transally1243  That you fail to comprehend the answer is a You problem. No one has yet justified the expectation that girls or women should accept dudes w/ psych issues in their showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, prisons, etc... Got anything, coward who still can't answer a straight question, tantrum incoming...???
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  835.  @eggknob  If he's in the girl's shower, regardless-- he's not entitled to be in there. Self-entitled Psych cases acting like the world owes them something are incorrect
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  836.  @jacobduffles-andrade8485  How are Self-entitled Psych cases, acting like the world owes them a debt of obligation to participate in the counter-culture push to make males who identify as something other than what they are, by allowing them access to the girl's showers-- reasonable or rational? You think those places are designated women's only is based on a subjective gender identity claim, or perhaps it's based on biology??? Sorry, not sorry. You don't seem to differentiate the difference between gender and gender roles, you seem to conflate them, while pretending that a woman is a feeling rather than an adult biological female, human being. The re-categorization and attempts at redefining words like men and women, by radical ideologues are rejected as invalid. If you have XX chromosomes, you can try out for the XX teams division, if not-- too bad so sad... You can then try out for the XY divisions, and you're not entitled to access to the girl's showers, women's shelters, women's prisons, locker rooms, changing rooms or multi-use restrooms.
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  837.  @jacobduffles-andrade8485  Don't be... Gender (There are 2 male/female... That's it). Gender roles are social constructs which serve as the roles of males and females in society. Bottom line is: restrooms, changing rooms, locker rooms, showers, sports leagues/teams/divisions, women's shelters, women's rights designations and prisons are designated segregated by sex/gender for a reason, and they aren't established based on a subjective gender identity claim, rather on biology. No one has yet justified the expectation that women who object to men w/ psych issues in their women's only spaces---- should just be quiet and take it. So, Got anything justifying the expectation that all of society must participate in your affirmation treatment, by denying objective reality, as an obligation to you? You can choose to wear a fairy princess costume if you like, but it doesn't make you a fairy princess and those who think it does are delusional too. Feel free to dress like a woman Feel free to act as effeminate as it gets Feel free be straight or gay Just know that none of that entitles you to occupy the girl's showers, sports etc... because you're pretending you're one of them, or presenting as a stereotypical sexist caricature of a woman you're not. Hopefully, that clears it up for you... So, got anything to justify your expectation that everyone in society is obligated to pretend you're a woman???
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  838. I don't accept your terminology, or your philosophical narrative's views as valid. I think that those to whom you refer as trans are either males w/ identity conflicts or females with identity conflicts, and the conflicts and anxiety about their gender doesn't change their gender All men are born male, and all women are born female, and neither is a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference nor a costume. One's anxiety about their biology doesn't change anything about the reality of their biology being what it is, nor entitle them to the participation of everyone in society, pretending that they're something they're not.
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  839.  @MowMowCreations  There is not a single scan that can show what you allege
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  840.  @MowMowCreations  No such peer reviewed study confirming that exists. Cite your source please. The fact is: Spaces designated for and implemented for women are done so based on an objective biological standard, not the feelings of conflicted men insisting they have a right to infringe on spaces never intended for them. Got anything on that, while we're at it? No-- you don't
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  841.  @MowMowCreations  Check out "intersex does not violate the Binary"
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  842.  @nuzhdatsya  Nah... Just something against denying objective reality and accepting BS in exchange
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  843.  @RichConnerGMN  Non-existent or Broken moral compass, couple with a massive intellectual deficit
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  844.  @transally1243  Quit your whining... Try being relevant for a change cry baby. If I ask a question and you give a questionable answer, expect scrutiny. That's how the world works. If you can't, won't or for whatever reason don't justify your expectation that anyone ought to take you seriously, the expectation is unwarranted and invalid
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  845.  @transally1243  I don't believe any of you trolls are what you say you are. Looks like it's you all... conflating gender/sex with gender roles. You can't change your gender/sex. Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in his/her womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate him/herself). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender. Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;) Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex (There are only 2-- male/female... That's it) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles (without exception refer to the roles of males and females in society) as though they're synonymous and they are not. Science has already proven that the binary dichotomy of all mammals is male/female. A man in a dress is still a man A man with anxiety about his sex/gender-- still a man A man calling himself a woman-- still a man A man with an effeminate personality--still a man Seethe if you must, then just cope harder They haven't put forth no reasoning that withstands scrutiny, rendering their narratives and opinions as less than useless and therefore invalid. Their incoherent rants and invalid claims as valid, are a figment of their imagination. Reality isn't an anti-trans ideology. Trans is an anti-reality ideology, and they're the ones seeking affirmation, validation, and the participation of everyone in their larp and cosplay, based on the belief that their subjective delusions are based in reality. Newsflash: They aren't Now you know better... Go in peace
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  846.  @transally1243  You're the one's looking to creep around in the girl's showers like you're entitled. STFU
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  847.  @transally1243  Good job ignoring the inconvenient truth, which destroys your intellectually bankrupt and invalid narratives which remain totally unjustified
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  848.  @bellaspeaks  Gender and sex, as I showed you are biological and interchangeable while gender roles are social constructs. You seem to be using gender/gender roles as a synonym for personality traits and temperament.'' Read the following In Humans, Sex is Binary and Immutable by Georgi K. Marinov. Georgi K. Marinov is Postdoctoral Research Scholar at the Department of Genetics, Stanford University School of Medicine, Stanford, CA A Biologist Explains Why Sex Is Binary April 9, 2023 In an effort to confuse the issue, gender ideologues cite rare ambiguous ‘intersex’ cases By Colin Wright Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”).
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  849.  @transally1243  I recommend in the future, try being relevant for a change. Justify the expectation that men, who call themselves 'trans women' have-- to be treated as though they're women, when they make a subjective gender identity claim. No one has been able or willing to articulate anything intelligent on the matter. Got anything???
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  850.  @transally1243  I can only post the facts for you, I can't 'understand' them FOR you too, that's on you. Good luck with your reading comprehension deficit and your therapy. You have failed to justify the expectations that women should accept males who claim to be women in their showers as though it's an entitlement, or why anyone would be expected to pretend that a man in a dress is anything other than a man in a dress
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  851.  @transally1243  You're reaching... Humans are binary separated into male/female, and that status is fixed and permanent, as it is with all mammals. Seethe about it if you must, then-- just cope harder because there's not a damned thing you can do to change it. Your socially constructed gender identity or non-traditional chosen gender roles aren't what make anyone a man or a woman-- that's a matter of biology. Now you know better
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  852.  @transally1243  Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). You can rename an apple 'lemon' if you wish, but it doesn't actually alter the nature of an apple nor a lemon. The same is true of choosing to call a man 'trans woman'. A dude who chooses to have his natural functioning anatomy removed, doesn't become a woman... He becomes a di~kless dude
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  853.  @transally1243  Oh okay. Meanwhile your cult narratives are exposed as absurd nonsense by objective reality and the fact that most don't have difficulty deciphering the difference between a woman and a dude in a dress
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  854.  @transally1243  Sex is quite literally in the Latin definition of genus. Genus - The Latin Dictionary. Translation. Gender, descendancy, kind, sort, class. Main Forms: Genus, Generis. Gender: Neuter. Declension: Third. page revision: 7, last edited: 25 May 2010 late 14c., "males or females considered collectively," from Latin sexus "a sex, state of being either male or female, gender," a word of uncertain origin. "Commonly taken with seco as division or 'half' of the race" [Tucker], which would connect it to secare "to divide or cut" (see section (n.)). Secus seems the more original formation, but it is strange that the older texts only know sexus. The modern meaning of sectiō 'division' suggests that sec/xus might derive from secāre 'to sever', but the morphology remains unclear: does sexus go back to an s-present *sek-s- 'to cut up', or was it derived from a form *sek-s- of the putative s-stem underlying secus? [Michiel de Vaan, "Etymological Dictionary of Latin and the other Italic Languages," Leiden, 2008]
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  855.  @transally1243  Online etymology of the Latin word sex: sex (n.) late 14c., "males or females considered collectively," from Latin sexus "a sex, state of being either male or female, gender," a word of uncertain origin. "Commonly taken with seco as division or 'half' of the race" [Tucker], which would connect it to secare "to divide or cut" (see section (n.)). Secus seems the more original formation, but it is strange that the older texts only know sexus. The modern meaning of sectiō 'division' suggests that sec/xus might derive from secāre 'to sever', but the morphology remains unclear: does sexus go back to an s-present *sek-s- 'to cut up', or was it derived from a form *sek-s- of the putative s-stem underlying secus? [Michiel de Vaan, "Etymological Dictionary of Latin and the other Italic Languages," Leiden, 2008] The meaning "quality or character of being either male or female" with reference to animals is recorded by 1520s; by 19c. this meant especially "the anatomical distinction between male and female as evidenced by physical characteristics of their genital organs and the part taken by each in reproduction." Extended by 1560s to characteristics or structures in plants which correspond to sex in animals. It goes back WAY farther though into ancient Hebrew as well. The words man and woman and the description of their referring to male and female are as old as antiquity itself. You're kinda reaching dude
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  856.  @transally1243  You do realize that NONE of this riveting conversation about the 'trans' population or their outrageously high rate of self deletes among them, changes the fact that those seriously disturbed dudes who choose to chop off their d~cks don't then become women right? They become d~ckless dudes who's self delete rate remains extraordinarily high. Dudes that don't suffer from gender dysphoria are dudes in a dress-- just the same as any other dude in a dress, regardless of his feelings of angst about reality. Men and women aren't social constructs, subjective gender identity claims or gender roles. They're biological male and female human beings who've reached the stage of development of adulthood. That this is controversial or confusing to you is ridiculous.
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  857.  @transally1243  Feel free to embrace your ignorance. I'm not bitter, just observant. I just reject your ideological narratives, because I don't have difficulty deciphering the differences between reality and the trans imagination, or recognizing the difference between a woman and a man w/ severe anxiety about reality-- wearing a dress, claiming to be a woman. Objective reality exposes your nonsense for being the nonsense it is, and most don't have difficulty telling the difference between a woman and a dude in a dress-- so you have some major hurdles to overcome.
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  858.  @transally1243  Can you recognize and decipher the difference between a male and a female cat, dog, horse or any other species of mammal? Do you think how they feel about it, changes that?
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  859.  @-PiNKSYRUP  GREAT!!! Then, quit whining about your preferred pronouns and stay out of the girl's showers.
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  860.  @-PiNKSYRUP  Everyone of those dudes had to register for the draft, because they're not women. Trans advocates seem to be telling women to F- off, with their concerns about troubled males in their showers and changing rooms, locker rooms, prisons, and in women's sports.
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  861.  @transally1243  So-called 'Trans' women aren't entitled to be treated as though they're women is the salient point, and you've failed to justify the expectation that anyone ought to treat them as though they were. Got anything yet? Until you do, the expectations of acceptance, affirmation and validation are irrational, illogical and most definitely-- unlikely.
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  862.  @eggknob  It's not an argument... It's searching for signs of intelligent life to justify the expectation that all of society is obligated to pretend that a dude with identity issues is entitled to infiltrate women's only spaces, despite their objections and expect that those women should just be quiet and accept that
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  863.  @eggknob  Bottom line is: restrooms, changing rooms, locker rooms, showers, sports leagues/teams/divisions, and prisons are designated segregated by gender for a reason, and they aren't established based on a subjective gender identity claim, rather on biology. Women aren't the threat to men that men are to women, and sorry to tell you that 70% of trans women ie men who are in prison are in there for s3xu@l assault on women. Most trans individuals think they're passable, and they're just not... Irrelevant, You can choose to wear a woman-face disguise if you want, no problem... However; it doesn't make any of you an actual woman. No one has yet justified the expectation that women who object to men w/ psych issues in their women's only spaces---- should just be quiet and take it. Got anything justifying the expectation that all of society must participate in your affirmation treatment, by denying objective reality, as an obligation to you? You can choose to wear a fairy princess costume if you like, but it doesn't make you a fairy princess and those who think it does are delusional too. Feel free to dress like a woman Feel free to act as effeminate as it gets Feel free be straight or gay Just know that none of that entitles you to occupy the girl's showers, sports etc... because you're pretending you're one of them, or presenting as a stereotypical sexist caricature of a woman you're not. Hopefully, that clears it up for you... So, got anything to justify your expectation that everyone in society is obligated to pretend you're a woman???
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  864.  @ANIHILIST12  Irony from the peanut gallery... Not a justification
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  865. Modern women do that (objectify, fetishize and dehumanize) themselves. Do they not? With their 304 attire, high body counts and promiscuous behavior, while reserving the right to whine about it, as though they have no part to play
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  866.  @summerblade3790  Yes, it is exactly how this works. So-- That's a 'No', you have nothing but the 'because you said so' standard being applied. You fail to persuade and your claim has been issued zero credibility. The problem you have with your ideological narratives is that life is based in objective reality, and most don't have difficulty deciphering the differences between reality and the trans imagination. A man in a dress is still a man A man with anxiety about his biology is still a man A man with an effeminate personality is still a man A man pretending to be a woman is still a man All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference or a costume. Get a clue
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  867.  @summerblade3790  The arguments just don't withstand scrutiny, because life is based in objective reality, and the trans imagination just doesn't override people's capacity for discernment. Believing there is some "essence" specific to males or female as far as feelings go, that can manifest "in the wrong body", is akin to a religious belief, having faith in something that is impossible to prove or disprove. The thing is though, that no one on the "trans" side can actually even explain what this "essence" is, they can't even explain it to themselves yet have convinced themselves that the feeling they have means they "are in the wrong body" - without realizing that their discomfort simply stems from not realizing that they view conforming to sexist stereotypes as legitimate measures of manhood or womanhood. That is why every explanation given of WHY a male "can't be a man, but is instead woman" etc. relies upon listing stereotypical stuff, or, in some cases is completely abstract and refuses to actually provide any explanation of what they mean, simply stating they "know" that what they feel means what they say it does, even though they can't actually provide a definition of it. "It's hard to explain but I know I'm right" is an attitude one constantly comes up against - a religious faith in something they can't define.
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  868. @YourRandomBAD Save it. Retired Psych tech here. I'm well aware
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  869. @YourRandomBAD I don't have difficulty deciphering the difference between males and females
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  870. @YourRandomBAD I know that affirming a delusional understanding of reality, as though it's based in reality-- doesn't provide anyone a means to cope with the adversity that's inevitable in life. That's why you don't house anorexia patients together-- they affirm the delusion that they could stand to lose a few more pounds
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  871. @YourRandomBAD I'm not seeking your affirmation, acceptance, nor validation. You're free to believe what you will. Just know that, having failed to justify your claims-- they're unjustified and invalid. You're only fooling yourself
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  872. @YourRandomBAD Nice list. No citations of actual studies from any of them showing men can become women though. Oops
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  873. @YourRandomBAD None of them have proven via peer reviewed studies, or any other means that a man can become a woman. Anything else?
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  874. @YourRandomBAD Not peer reviewed studies proving men can become women. Next?
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  875. @YourRandomBAD Not evasion. Waiting patiently for you to provide any peer reviewed studies proving men can become women, and you haven't, because they don't exist
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  876. @YourRandomBAD Not peer reviewed studies proving men can become women. Next?
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  877. @YourRandomBAD That's an assertion, not a peer-reviewed study proving the assertion true
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  878. @YourRandomBAD Nope it doesn't prove anything. It's a mere assertion. You can't name a study and quote the conclusion of the peer-reviewed study proving men can become women, because it simply doesn't exist
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  879. @YourRandomBAD Really? Okay... So you admit the so-called studies you referred, and relied on to make your case, don't prove men can become women. Got it. Congratulations, you played yourself
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  880. @YourRandomBAD No, just waiting for you to name the peer reviewed studies you insist exist, proving men can become women, because what you posted, isn't it
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  881. @YourRandomBAD Am I? If what you allege were true, there would be a ton of peer-reviewed studies showing that men can become women that you would cite proving it, but NOPE, not even 1
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  882. @YourRandomBAD Bottom line: The trans clown act is indeed a clown act. Dudes who chop off their junk, pretending they're girls are just dudes who've chopped off their junk. Cope or not... It's true and nothing you say will change that
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  883. @YourRandomBAD Look, if a dude in a dress is the 'woman' for you-- you're gay. Congrats... Now, go be happy and quit whining. No one has proven that a dude in a dress w/ severe anxiety about reality and his gender is anything other than a dude in a dress. Got Anything?
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  884. @YourRandomBAD I've already answered this for you, but okay... Open Letter in Support of Dr. Kenneth Zucker and the Need to Promote Robust Scientific Debate Sponsored by FAIR in Medicine May 5, 2023 We, the undersigned signatories, are expressing our support for Dr. Kenneth Zucker, an academically robust and unbiased editorial process at the Archives of Sexual Behavior, and uninterrupted publication of “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria: Parent Reports on 1655 Possible Cases” by Diaz and Bailey. We condemn and reject the censorious demands being directed at Springer Nature, the company that publishes Archives of Sexual Behavior, that this paper be retracted, and that the editor of the journal, Dr. Zucker, be sanctioned for allowing the paper’s publication. The appropriate action is to have an open debate about the paper—not to silence those whose views one finds disagreeable. Currently as many as one in 10–20 youth report gender dysphoria. The paper by Diaz and Bailey adds to the growing body of knowledge about the various factors contributing to the rapid rise of adolescent-onset gender dysphoria–a phenomenon that was exceedingly rare in the past. Specifically, the paper engages with parental reports of the cases of “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria,” or ROGD. The ROGD hypothesis posits that in some cases, gender dysphoria in adolescence may be mediated by social factors. The potential viability of the ROGD hypothesis has been endorsed not only by the parents, as described by Diaz and Bailey, but also by the clinicians working with this patient population, and the affected patients themselves. If it proves to be correct, then the treatment approaches to this novel population of adolescents may need to be different, including the possibility that such cases may benefit from less invasive interventions that do not carry the irreversible effects of hormonal and surgical interventions known as “gender-affirming care.” The concern that the currently-presenting gender dysphoric youth are different from the originally-studied cases, and that they may be better helped by psychotherapy, has also been expressed by the originators of the “Dutch” protocol for gender-transitioning minors. We are particularly disappointed that among the signatories demanding that the research be retracted is the current President of WPATH. WPATH recently acknowledged the role of social influence as a possible contributing factor to gender dysphoria in adolescents, saying: “For a select subgroup of young people, susceptibility to social influence impacting gender may be an important differential to consider.” (Coleman et al., 2022, p. 45) Signing a demand to retract one of the very few papers examining the possible influence of social factors is inconsistent with WPATH’s own statements. We are aware of the allegation that a lack of an Institutional Review Board approval of this publication warrants a retraction. However, this is demonstrably false. Springer’s policies explicitly allow the Editor-in-Chief the discretion to accept a publication that has not sought IRB approval. The first author of this study was not affiliated with a university and did not need to seek IRB approval. Further, we are aware that the activists are alleging that the paper’s methodology was biased by only relying on parental reports. However, parental reports are commonly used to gather information about children and adolescents. A highly influential paper in the field that is often cited to support social transition for youth also relied on parental reports. However, in this case the methodology was not criticized. The difference appears to be that in this example, the parents supported their children’s gender transition, whereas in the Diaz and Bailey paper, the parents were concerned with the risks of inappropriate medicalization of their children. Unfortunately, this is not the first time journals and researchers who dare explore the subject of ROGD have been targeted for cancellation. What is currently happening to the Diaz and Bailey paper bears a marked resemblance to the prior attempt to silence the original “ROGD” paper by Lisa Littman, MD. Under tremendous pressure from critics, PLOS ONE subjected the paper to a second round of peer review post-publication. The paper withstood this unprecedented scrutiny, with its results unchanged. To quote Jeffrey S. Flier, MD, the 21st Dean of Harvard Medical School, who wrote eloquently about the the attempts to silence research into ROGD, “Many papers face questions after they have been published, which is well and proper: the systematic assessment and scrutiny of published work is a core method by which the scientific community corrects errors, and builds upon imperfect preliminary observations…But that is not what has happened…. [the] critics have not performed any systematic analysis of her findings, but seem principally motivated by ideological opposition to [the] conclusions. We fear that just like in the case of the original ROGD paper, the demands for retraction and sanctioning of Dr. Zucker, the Editor-in-Chief are principally motivated by the ideological opposition to Diaz and Bailey’s conclusion. Because of Dr. Zucker’s unique experience in the field and his role as the Editor-in-Chief, the journal, Archives of Sexual Behavior, has become a formidable force in the growing debate about how to best care for the rapidly growing numbers of gender-diverse youth. Dr. Zucker has demonstrated neutrality by routinely publishing articles on both sides of this contentious issue. While the paper by Diaz and Bailey–like all research–has limitations, it is vital to continue to study the ROGD hypothesis. Ongoing attempts to silence any research into the explosion of teens who are now identifying as transgender only stands to hurt the very patients the activists are claiming to help–young gender nonconforming people. We, the undersigned signatories, ask that Springer Nature, the company that publishes Archives of Sexual Behavior, takes a nuanced view of this situation, examines the context in which these complaints have been leveled, and chooses to uphold the principles and practice of scientific discussion, debate, and freedom of expression by rejecting calls to retract the paper “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria: Parent Reports on 1655 Possible Cases” by Diaz and Bailey and refusing to sanction Dr. Kenneth Zucker for his decision to publish the paper.
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  885. @YourRandomBAD All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, subjective gender identity claim, feeling, fetish, preference nor a costume. You haven't justified having those men be granted authority to infiltrate women's only spaces and organizations. Do you think showers, locker rooms, prisons etc... are designated segregated Male/Female based on a subjective identity claims or biology? Get Real
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  886. @YourRandomBAD I haven't seen anyone justify biological men being granted access to violate women's only private spaces, and organizations as though they're somehow entitled. If a dude in a dress pretending to be a woman is the 'woman' for you-- you're gay. Congrats... Now, go be happy. They don't belong in women's only spaces and organizations segregated as such based on biology. You think women's only spaces and organizations are segregated as such, based on subjective gender identity claims vs biology-- then you're an idi0t
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  887. @YourRandomBAD As I've already told you-- Not one of those 73 studies you're referring to prove a man can become a woman. Until they do, all your arguments are just whining and hot air. Dudes w/ psych issues have no business infiltrating women's only spaces and organizations, regardless of their beliefs, anxiety or claims about their gender identity. Your strawman arguments, sophistry, cult terminology and gaslighting are rejected as invalid
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  888. @YourRandomBAD No, Gender Roles are Social Constructs referring to the roles of males and females in society. Gender/Sex is biological (There are only 2 male/female... That's it), and that state is fixed and permanent among ALL mammalian species. Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex (There are only 2-- male/female... That's it) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles (without exception refer to the roles of males and females in society) as though they're synonymous and they are not. Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. DEFINITIONS: Cf. “Sex”. Both terms (“Gender” and “Sex”) originate from Latin words: “Genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;)
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  889. @YourRandomBAD You lost this debate a long time ago. ROFLMFAO You're a woman hater, insisting on the authority to infringe on their rights to privacy, and 'women's only' spaces and organizations, as though you're somehow entitled. It's the height of narcissism and unjustified self-entitlement. Again, None of your nonsense make it possible for a man to become a woman, or justify the expectation that they ought to be treated as though they're women. None of your antics make you correct or proven me incorrect. Your entire argument is invalid Cheerio
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  890. @YourRandomBAD You and I have a different take on the DSM and what it stands for and why gender dysphoria is mentioned in it and what it says about it. Obviously
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  891. @YourRandomBAD It doesn't validate the notion that they should be treated as though they're the opposite sex
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  892. @YourRandomBAD Legally? Back then, legally you could beat a woman with a broom handle... it didn't make it right. Those doctors share the ethics of Dr. Frankenstein, trying to justify creating monsters
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  893. @YourRandomBAD Did you?
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  894. @YourRandomBAD is it?
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  895. @YourRandomBAD I don't buy your cult narratives. Now what?
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  896. @YourRandomBAD If the shoe fits... You have failed to justify any expectation of respect, acceptance, affirmation or validation for your narratives with your bad faith troll interactions.
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  897. @YourRandomBAD That's ok... I'm not seeking your approval, acceptance, admission or validation-- That would be you and yours seeking that from the majority who reject your anti-social garbage for being nonsensical garbage based in Fantasyland.
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  898. @YourRandomBAD You lost this debate before you ever engaged. Reality called and said you're FOS
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  899. @YourRandomBAD Cool story
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  900. @YourRandomBAD Cool story. Your gender identity claim doesn't make anyone a man or a woman-- it's biology
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  901. @YourRandomBAD Biology doesn't disagree at all. Your denial doesn't establish truth. Your argument from authority is rejected, as it clearly demonstrates that the 'experts' disagree with each other. If a dude in a dress is the 'woman' for you-- you're gay, so go be happy.
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  902. @YourRandomBAD Says the dude who thinks a dude in a dress is a woman of some sort. Pretty funny Get real, then keep it real. Your entire incoherent cult ideology is demonstrably false.
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  903. @YourRandomBAD So you keep saying... There's no study anywhere proving that a man in a dress is anything other than a man in a dress regardless of his subjective gender identity claims. That you want to pretend a dude in a dress is a woman is fine. Have at it There's no justification anywhere that everyone is obligated to treat a man as anything other than a man, or obligating everyone to pretend a dude in a dress is anything other than a dude in a dress. Cope, or not... it's of no consequence and in no way alters reality
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  904. @YourRandomBAD If a dude in a dress is a 'woman' for you... Go for it. I couldn't possibly care less. Still a dude though You can pretend all you want. I have no issue with that. I identify as someone who doesn't have to participate in the LARP and cosplay, much less affirm it as valid. If some dude prancing around in a fairy princess costume, identifying as a fairy princess is (to you) a fairy princess... it means you're not too bright. Happy Halloween
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  905. @YourRandomBAD Your comments indicate that not much of anything rational is clear to you. Good luck with that because you've failed miserably to justify your incoherent statements as valid
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  906. @YourRandomBAD The guy who's medical professional peers wrote: Open Letter in Support of Dr. Kenneth Zucker and the Need to Promote Robust Scientific Debate Sponsored by FAIR in Medicine May 5, 2023 We, the undersigned signatories, are expressing our support for Dr. Kenneth Zucker, an academically robust and unbiased editorial process at the Archives of Sexual Behavior, and uninterrupted publication of “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria: Parent Reports on 1655 Possible Cases” by Diaz and Bailey. We condemn and reject the censorious demands being directed at Springer Nature, the company that publishes Archives of Sexual Behavior, that this paper be retracted, and that the editor of the journal, Dr. Zucker, be sanctioned for allowing the paper’s publication. The appropriate action is to have an open debate about the paper—not to silence those whose views one finds disagreeable. Currently as many as one in 10–20 youth report gender dysphoria. The paper by Diaz and Bailey adds to the growing body of knowledge about the various factors contributing to the rapid rise of adolescent-onset gender dysphoria–a phenomenon that was exceedingly rare in the past. Specifically, the paper engages with parental reports of the cases of “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria,” or ROGD. The ROGD hypothesis posits that in some cases, gender dysphoria in adolescence may be mediated by social factors. The potential viability of the ROGD hypothesis has been endorsed not only by the parents, as described by Diaz and Bailey, but also by the clinicians working with this patient population, and the affected patients themselves. If it proves to be correct, then the treatment approaches to this novel population of adolescents may need to be different, including the possibility that such cases may benefit from less invasive interventions that do not carry the irreversible effects of hormonal and surgical interventions known as “gender-affirming care.” The concern that the currently-presenting gender dysphoric youth are different from the originally-studied cases, and that they may be better helped by psychotherapy, has also been expressed by the originators of the “Dutch” protocol for gender-transitioning minors. We are particularly disappointed that among the signatories demanding that the research be retracted is the current President of WPATH. WPATH recently acknowledged the role of social influence as a possible contributing factor to gender dysphoria in adolescents, saying: “For a select subgroup of young people, susceptibility to social influence impacting gender may be an important differential to consider.” (Coleman et al., 2022, p. 45) Signing a demand to retract one of the very few papers examining the possible influence of social factors is inconsistent with WPATH’s own statements. We are aware of the allegation that a lack of an Institutional Review Board approval of this publication warrants a retraction. However, this is demonstrably false. Springer’s policies explicitly allow the Editor-in-Chief the discretion to accept a publication that has not sought IRB approval. The first author of this study was not affiliated with a university and did not need to seek IRB approval. Further, we are aware that the activists are alleging that the paper’s methodology was biased by only relying on parental reports. However, parental reports are commonly used to gather information about children and adolescents. A highly influential paper in the field that is often cited to support social transition for youth also relied on parental reports. However, in this case the methodology was not criticized. The difference appears to be that in this example, the parents supported their children’s gender transition, whereas in the Diaz and Bailey paper, the parents were concerned with the risks of inappropriate medicalization of their children. Unfortunately, this is not the first time journals and researchers who dare explore the subject of ROGD have been targeted for cancellation. What is currently happening to the Diaz and Bailey paper bears a marked resemblance to the prior attempt to silence the original “ROGD” paper by Lisa Littman, MD. Under tremendous pressure from critics, PLOS ONE subjected the paper to a second round of peer review post-publication. The paper withstood this unprecedented scrutiny, with its results unchanged. To quote Jeffrey S. Flier, MD, the 21st Dean of Harvard Medical School, who wrote eloquently about the the attempts to silence research into ROGD, “Many papers face questions after they have been published, which is well and proper: the systematic assessment and scrutiny of published work is a core method by which the scientific community corrects errors, and builds upon imperfect preliminary observations…But that is not what has happened…. [the] critics have not performed any systematic analysis of her findings, but seem principally motivated by ideological opposition to [the] conclusions. We fear that just like in the case of the original ROGD paper, the demands for retraction and sanctioning of Dr. Zucker, the Editor-in-Chief are principally motivated by the ideological opposition to Diaz and Bailey’s conclusion. Because of Dr. Zucker’s unique experience in the field and his role as the Editor-in-Chief, the journal, Archives of Sexual Behavior, has become a formidable force in the growing debate about how to best care for the rapidly growing numbers of gender-diverse youth. Dr. Zucker has demonstrated neutrality by routinely publishing articles on both sides of this contentious issue. While the paper by Diaz and Bailey–like all research–has limitations, it is vital to continue to study the ROGD hypothesis. Ongoing attempts to silence any research into the explosion of teens who are now identifying as transgender only stands to hurt the very patients the activists are claiming to help–young gender nonconforming people. We, the undersigned signatories, ask that Springer Nature, the company that publishes Archives of Sexual Behavior, takes a nuanced view of this situation, examines the context in which these complaints have been leveled, and chooses to uphold the principles and practice of scientific discussion, debate, and freedom of expression by rejecting calls to retract the paper “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria: Parent Reports on 1655 Possible Cases” by Diaz and Bailey and refusing to sanction Dr. Kenneth Zucker for his decision to publish the paper.
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  907. @YourRandomBAD No, it doesn't. That's wrong. There are only 2 genders (Male/Female) and it's a matter of biology. Gender Roles are social constructs referring to the roles of males and females in society. You can pretend that a dude in a dress is a 'woman' if you like, but he isn't
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  908. @YourRandomBAD Shhhhh... You're spending so much energy trolling, instead of justifying and establishing a plausible reason for consideration, by those who don't understand or who disagree. My experiment has been to see if there were any good faith responses, to my questions, and scrutiny of the claims made by various commenters-- and there has been none. THAT says something, and it really isn't a good look for you. Just you clowns trolling, and acting like petulant anarchists running rampant with nothing of substance-- just your anti-social antics and trolling, Nothing worthy of acceptance, affirmation, consideration, compassion, Legitimization, or Validation. It's as though you don't realize that anyone who was actually interested in your shenanigans, thinking it was establishing the trans-activist, ideological, cult narrative as legitimate is blocking their own agenda. It's like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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  909. @YourRandomBAD You lost the arguments thoroughly and have been discredited, invalidated, debunked and rejected. You've still failed to justify why women should shut up and take it, when men-- who claim a subjective gender identity have special interests advocating they be granted the authority to infiltrate their 'women's only' spaces like locker rooms, changing rooms, showers, prisons, sports leagues/teams... Do you not realize that those places and organizations are not designated segregated by subjective gender identity claims rather they're separated by biology/sex for a reason??? It's the height of misogyny and is morally reprehensible
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  910. @YourRandomBAD Refuse to participate in your larp/cosplay, continue pointing out the incoherent narratives, and reject unjustified appeals for affirmation, acceptance or validation of a gender identity disconnected with reality
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  911. @YourRandomBAD Says the creepy dude who preys on women and kids. You're projecting again
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  912. @YourRandomBAD No matter how many times you make that false allegation, like your incoherent trans narrative claims... Still not true
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  913. @YourRandomBAD Nothing from you justifying your expectation that anyone ought to treat a man in a dress, as though he's a woman or grant him women's rights-- That's certainly true
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  914. @YourRandomBAD No doubt what you hear often, when insisting on preferred pronouns and creeping in the girl's showers and locker rooms as though you were entitled-- but you're not, so you better get used to rejection and develop some coping mechanisms to help you cope harder
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  915. @YourRandomBAD There's no truth in you. Your projection is evident in your triggered mass posting of garbage. The expectation that anyone ought to treat men with issues, as though they're women is yet to be justified by you or anyone else. Cowards one and all
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  916. It's coming...
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  917.  @WillieManga  The self-delete rates, even after transition, are so much higher than the general population, it in no way justifies the efficacy of affirmation-based treatment protocols
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  918.  @WillieManga  They go down to a level that's 40% higher than the general population, and you call that an effective treatment protocol, when studies show that 90% desist? Wow You don't recognize the net LOSS of life. I wish I could say something to increase your capacity for intelligent analysis, but again, that's on you
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  919.  @WillieManga  Yes, objective reality is the proof. That you fail to comprehend it, is a YOU problem
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  920.  @WillieManga  Neither you nor they have articulated any answers to my scrutiny of the claims, analysis nor conclusions you cling to as gospel truth. It's not complicated. There are people. People are male or female and that status is fixed and permanent. You want to dress and act like a counter-culture individual go for it. Just know it makes you look ridiculous
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  921.  @WillieManga  You appear to believe your validation or endorsement is of some value. Your argument from authority is hollow. The irony is, you and the trans-activists are the one's who seem to need validation from everyone in the world that your subjective sense of self-perception is validated as based in objective reality-- when it isn't. Instead of making your case with some integrity, you whinge away like entitled brats having a tantrum, because you aren't being recognized as actually being the Halloween characters you present as, rather as someone playing a role that's disconnected from reality. It's sad knowing that not all psych cases have a fix, but I'm not willing to participate in your LARP and cosplay because I don't believe that affirmation-based treatment is efficacious-- evidenced by the extraordinarily high self-delete rates compared to the general population, even after transition.
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  922.  @WillieManga  Why would I do that? I'm a retired Behavior Modification Specialist w/ several years dedicated to working with the developmentally disabled. What's your scientific background?? Well, seethe if you must, then Cope Harder. Kenneth Zucker et Al 2021 Watched trans women, diagnosed, and after 20 years almost 90 percent desisted. 😁
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  923.  @Mel-wn9gb  It seems they're lost souls, and prisoners in their own minds-- because they have severe psych issues that either haven't been or can't be rectified, in the same way that not all illnesses have a cure. That they tend to be aggressive, loud and wrong doesn't inspire anyone to go out of their way to endure their self-entitled arrogance
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  924.  @MaysunKay  No I'm not. It's why men's rooms have urinals. Use your brain. The arguments just don't withstand scrutiny, because life is based in objective reality, and the trans imagination just doesn't override people's capacity for discernment. What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, costumes, or preferences. That you can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's your inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you wished they were. If your identity is predicated upon the notion that everyone in society must deny objective reality and participate in your LARP and cosplay, contrary to objective reality then sorry, Not sorry... That identity isn't valid. Choosing to call an apple an orange, doesn't alter the nature of an apple nor an orange. Your preferences re: s3xu@l matters don't alter whether or not you're male or female, and neither does choosing self mutil@tion or castration. Humans who are born male and grow into adulthood are the only men, and females who grow into adulthood are the only women. There are exactly zero exceptions. People aren't social constructs, feelings or costumes. Renaming a woman (trans man) or a man something else like trans woman, doesn't alter the nature of the man or woman-- but you all seem to operate as though it does. That's an error The thing is, societies which have been long established, and steeped in tradition aren't obligated to abandon their established cultural norms to support a counter-culture ideology. To suggest that they owe it to you, is the height of narcissism and arrogance. It's for YOU to integrate into the society which you choose to be in, not for them to change for you. Sheesh.... That sound you're hearing is the sound of rejection from the vast majority of the people on earth, of the trans-activist, ideological, cult narratives. Nobody owes you. Cope Harder
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  925.  @Cle-o  Neither you, nor any of the other trans activists have even attempted to engage with integrity, much less prove anything I've written to be incorrect or inaccurate in any way whatsoever. And-- it's not because there hasn't been ample opportunity to make your case. You/they rather, have apparently taken on the role of activist agent provocateurs, and it doesn't help your cause to act out with anti-social personality traits, to the very people that you want acceptance from, or to come across as petulant teens without a clue, whinging away as though you do
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  926.  @MaysunKay  What's anti-social about recognizing that a man in a dress is in fact a man? Let me try to summarize it for you, but I have to caution you-- the truth can sting. What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, costumes, or preferences. That you can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's your inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you wished they were.
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  927.  @cronex1828  Way too many inappropriately conflate gender (There are only -- 2 male/female) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), as though they're synonymous-- and they are not. Then, they conflate gender with gender roles (These vary from culture to culture, country to country and society to society)-- BUT in every case they're referring to the roles of males and females in those societies, cultures and countries, which are long-established cultural and societal roles in those communities, established as cultural 'norms'. Then, they conflate fact with fiction, science with science-fiction and pseudo-science, males with females, men with women and fantasy with reality. A woman isn't a social construct, a feeling, fetish or a costume that a man can put on or take off. Women (ALL of them) are born female, and men (ALL of them) are born male And... There are exactly zero exceptions, making the use of Cis/Trans totally useless and irrelevant. I don't see affirmation-based treatment protocols as efficacious or justifiable, considering that the self-delete rates remain at nearly 40%, while the general population is closer to 4%. If it was known that 4 out of 10 parachutes would fail-- smart people wouldn't be skydiving, and those who did still go and ended up going splat wouldn't be a shocking surprise. Just sayin...
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  928.  @cronex1828  Your DNA literally organizes your physical body. DNA dictates the production of objective biological differences between males and females. 100% of the population is either male or female, even intersex people. If they have a Y chromosome, they are heterogametic and male. If not, they are homogametic and female. Personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive -- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), aren't synonymous with gender or gender roles. There is no internal feeling that is exclusive to men or women (or boys/girls), what makes anyone a man or a woman is being either male or female and reaching adulthood. Their sex and stage of physical maturity makes them men or women, not some "feeling" they have. Believing there is some "essence" specific to males or female as far as feelings go, that can manifest "in the wrong body", is akin to a religious belief, having faith in something that is impossible to prove or disprove. The thing is though, that no one on the "trans" side can actually even explain what this "essence" is, they can't even explain it to themselves yet have convinced themselves that the feeling they have means they "are in the wrong body" - without realizing that their discomfort simply stems from not realizing that they view conforming to sexist stereotypes as legitimate measures of manhood or womanhood. That is why every explanation given of WHY a male "can't be a man, but is instead woman" etc. relies upon listing stereotypical stuff, or, in some cases is completely abstract and refuses to actually provide any explanation of what they mean, simply stating they "know" that what they feel means what they say it does, even though they can't actually provide a definition of it. "It's hard to explain but I know I'm right" is an attitude one constantly comes up against - a religious faith in something they can't define. This idea that the terms "man" and "woman" carry all this baggage, sexist stereotypes, that people need to live up to or feel comfortable with is a complete fabrication coming from the "trans" side. You lot want a term to reflect aspects of your personality as well, you want to create more boxes to put people in, as you won't accept simply just being a man or a woman based on being born male or female (and reaching adulthood, obviously people are boys and girls before becoming men or women), but believe you need this "freedom of expression" to broadcast what sexist stereotypes you feel more comfortable with - thinking the world needs to adopt the sexist view you lot have (you fail to see just how much you have in common with Conservatives). Replacing objective definitions which are based in physical reality, with entirely subjective metaphysical claims, is not logical in any way, is not morally superior, and is demonstrably harmful, not least to female rights and protections, but also to practically anyone that buys into it as it warps people's perception of the underlying issues. It hinders people in their quest for individuation, creating this false narrative of them becoming more "authentic" when the total opposite is true, they believe they need validation from others in order to be happy etc. instead of being encouraged to find more inner strength and resilience with less reliance on how people see them. Demanding to be legally recognized as the opposite sex of what one is, is in no way shape or form more authentic than accepting the physical reality one is born into. To believe we as individuals can have 100% control over our identity in society, what we are seen as by others, in interaction with, and in relation to, society/the world/physical existence is a fool's errand, it is a delusional understanding of reality and existence.
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  929.  @cronex1828  What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. I reject your definition of gender. Now what? Gender refers to the sex established at conception and observed and documented at birth, and also refers to the social aspects of being males or female, respectively. Too many conflate gender (There are only 2 male/female... That's it), with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and gender roles (Which vary from culture to culture, country to country and society to society-- BUT without exception, they ALL refer to the roles of males and females in those countries, cultures and societies, which all have long-standing established cultural norms), as though they're synonymous, and they are not. That you/they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's your/their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you/they wished they were. As to the cause of GD, it doesn't alter the reality that a male doesn't become a female because of feelings or difficulty dealing with reality, and a female doesn't become a male because of feelings or difficulty dealing with reality. The problem the trans activists have is that life is based in objective reality, and the trans imagination doesn't override the vast majority of people's capacity and ability to discern reality from fantasy. Humans who are born male and grow into adulthood are the only men, and females who grow into adulthood are the only women. There are exactly zero exceptions. People aren't social constructs, feelings or costumes. Renaming a woman or a man something else, doesn't alter the nature of the man or woman-- but you all seem to operate as though it does. That's an error. Thomas Steensma, a gender clinician and researcher at the Center of Expertise on Gender Dysphoria, VU University Medical Center, in Amsterdam found, the phenomenon of transgender children "growing out of" their transgender identity by the time they are adolescents or adults is called “desistance” by gender researchers. For decades, follow-up studies of transgender kids have shown that a substantial majority -- anywhere from 65 to 94 percent -- eventually ceased to identify as transgender. Contrast that against the 40-50% self termination rate currently measured (Compared to the rate associated with gays and lesbians @ around 4%) with the implementation of affirmation therapy, and it looks like affirmation therapy is a net loss and is not justifiable as efficacious in any meaningful way. It begs the questioning of affirmation-based treatment protocols and the questioning of the ethics and judgement of those who endorse and perform those procedures
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  930.  @cronex1828  Dr. Miriam Grossman, MD delivers a good dose of truth regarding so-called "gender-affirming care" during a recent U.S. House Committee hearing. She speaks clearly as a medical professional and debunks the notion that sex is "assigned at birth." Dr. Grossman is board certified in child, adolescent, and adult psychiatry. The author of five books, her work has been translated into eleven languages. "Lost in Trans Nation: A Child Psychiatrist's Guide Out of the Madness" is her most recent book that explains the widespread devastation caused by transgenderism. Her medical practice focuses on gender-distressed young people and their parents. She believes that every child is born in the right body. Dr Grossman has been vocal about the capture of her profession by ideologues, leading to dangerous and experimental treatments on children and betrayal of parents. She has testified in Congress and lectured at the British House of Lords and the United Nations.
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  931.  @cronex1828  No, sorry-- the 'because you said so' standard has been issued zero credibility, but sex/gender, personality traits and gender roles aren't the same thing though, and you keep operating as though they're synonymous, and that's an error on your part. Dr. Miriam Grossman, MD delivers a good dose of truth regarding so-called "gender-affirming care" during a recent U.S. House Committee hearing. She speaks clearly as a medical professional and debunks the notion that sex is "assigned at birth." Dr. Grossman is board certified in child, adolescent, and adult psychiatry. The author of five books, her work has been translated into eleven languages. "Lost in Trans Nation: A Child Psychiatrist's Guide Out of the Madness" is her most recent book that explains the widespread devastation caused by transgenderism. Her medical practice focuses on gender-distressed young people and their parents. She believes that every child is born in the right body. Dr Grossman has been vocal about the capture of her profession by ideologues, leading to dangerous and experimental treatments on children and betrayal of parents. She has testified in Congress and lectured at the British House of Lords and the United Nations.
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  932.  @cronex1828  Well dear, I'm a retired Behavior Modification Specialist/Psych Tech, who spent many years working with the developmentally disabled. I wasn't quoting you. I was merely pointing out that you're in error because you are inappropriately conflating gender, gender roles and personality as though they are synonymous, and they are not. If sex and gender are truly independent, then why to trans men and trans women go through so many hoops to change their primary sex characteristics??? You’re not trying to change your gender, you’re trying to change sex…. Make it make sense WAY TOO Many (Yes, I'm talking about you) are conflating sex/gender (There are only 2 male/female, and segments of each present with various physical issues, some with psych issues, some with both-- none of which alter the fact that their biology is male or female) with gender roles (These vary from culture to culture, country to country and society to society, BUT-- they all (without exception) refer to the roles of males and females in those cultures, countries, and societies) and personality (There are a ton, and NONE are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) as if they're all synonymous, and they aren't.
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  933.  @TheBigJayAgenda  A dude is still a dude if he changes his costume, alters his appearance and has severe anxiety about the fact that he's a guy. There is only 1 kind of man and they're all born male, and there's only one kind of woman and they're all born female making the use of the cis preface irrelevant and grammatically incorrect
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  934.  @Sentient-potato  No one is 'trans'. People are male or female, respectively-- and their feelings about that, regardless of their anxiety, don't alter reality at all. Suicidality Among Transgender Youth: Elucidating the Role of Interpersonal Risk Factors: "Data indicate that 82% of transgender individuals have considered killing themselves and 40% have attempted suicide, with suicidality highest among transgender youth. Using minority stress theory and the interpersonal theory of suicide, this study aims to better understand suicide risk among transgender youth. The present study examines the influence of intervenable risk factors: interpersonal and environmental microaggressions, internalized self-stigma, and adverse childhood experiences (ACEs), and protective factors: school belonging, family support, and peer support on both lifetime suicide attempts and past 6-month suicidality in a sample of transgender youth (n = 372). SPSS 22 was utilized to examine the impact of the independent variables on both suicidality and lifetime suicide attempt through two separate logistic regressions. Fifty six percent of youth reported a previous suicide attempt and 86% reported suicidality. Logistic regressions indicated that models for both lifetime suicide attempts and suicidality were significant." Long-term follow-up of transsexual persons undergoing sex reassignment surgery: cohort study in Sweden: “Conclusions: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.” THAT is what I would consider an issue, and if you do not-- then you do you, while failing to realize that the supposedly efficacious claims, of affirmation-based treatment protocol advocates are entirely unjustified.
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  935.  @wondahoy.39  Says the side who incorrectly utilizes gender pronouns, while infringing on women's only spaces and organizations? There's no hate involved in recognizing that a dude in a dress is a dude in a dress. That's just being observant
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  936. @YourRandomBAD You have difficulty recognize the differences between males and females? Weird
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  937. @YourRandomBAD Your incoherent rants and claims of legitimacy, are figments of your imagination. Reality isn't an anti-trans ideology. Trans is an anti-reality ideology, and they're the ones seeking affirmation, validation, and the participation of everyone in their larp and cosplay, based on the belief that their subjective delusions are based in reality. Newsflash: They aren't
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  938. @YourRandomBAD Nice list, including exactly ZERO citations of any peer reviewed studies showing that men can become women. Yawn...
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  939. @YourRandomBAD Name a study that they reference which is peer reviewed, proving a man can become a woman. I'll wait... 🦗🦗🦗
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  940. @YourRandomBAD It's still Not a peer reviewed medical study proving men can become women. If you're fooled into believing that a dude in a dress is a woman-- that's on you
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  941. @YourRandomBAD Believe your fantasy reality if you like. I'm not buying it. In 99.4% of cases gender/sex matches gender identity, which is not even 1 standard deviation. Hardly 'normal'... More like the extreme of abnormal
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  942. @YourRandomBAD Think deeper thoughts. You should be able to name a multitude of studies proving men can become women, if what you allege were true, but it isn't and you can't because you're FOS
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  943. @YourRandomBAD Look, you have failed to prove any of your assertions. If a dude in a dress is the 'woman' for you-- go for it. You're gay. Whatever... it doesn't make a him a her
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  944. @YourRandomBAD Okay... You're seething and triggered. Here's the thing, neither your acceptance, approval, acknowledgment, nor validation is required... I was never trying to persuade you to do anything other than justify your narratives against my scrutiny, and you failed to do so. No Worries That's you and yours, seeking validation for being something you wish you were, identify as, though you're not, from the rest of the majority of society, who aren't buying your narratives, and reject the expectation that their participation in your LARP and cosplay is required, and you fail to persuade. Good Job
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  945. @YourRandomBAD The thing is, being correct is why I'm right and you're not. The trans clown act is indeed a clown act. Dudes who chop off their junk, pretending they're girls are just dudes who've chopped off their junk. Cope or not... It's true and nothing you say will change that
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  946. @YourRandomBAD Seethe if you must, but the trans clown act is indeed a clown act. Dudes who chop off their junk, pretending they're girls are just dudes who've chopped off their junk. Cope or not... It's true and nothing you say will change that
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  947. @YourRandomBAD You believe that huh? LOL If You think women's only spaces and organizations are segregated as such, based on subjective gender identity claims vs biology-- you're not too bright, and your misogyny is showing
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  948. @YourRandomBAD Again and again and again... I've told you, Not one of those 73 studies you're referring to prove a man can become a woman. Until they do, all your arguments are just whining and hot air. Dudes w/ psych issues have no business infiltrating women's only spaces and organizations, regardless of their beliefs, anxiety or claims about their gender identity. Your strawman arguments, sophistry, cult terminology and gaslighting are rejected as invalid
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  949. @YourRandomBAD The same inane comments of yours are worthy of the same replies which invalidate your nonsense, by exposing it as nonsense.
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  950. @YourRandomBAD The amount of time you spend on these replies, refuting nothing, disproving none of the scrutiny, and proving even less -- is really something dude. It's why your narratives are rejected as invalid You like to virtue signal, and I like to argue... The difference is your virtue signaling is absent any virtue and are void of substance and truth and unable to withstand scrutiny.
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  951. @YourRandomBAD Nothing persuasive from you, justifying the expectation that anyone should treat a man in a dress as though he were a woman, or that anyone owes you their participation in your therapy.
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  952.  @WillieManga  How are You being productive?
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  953.  @WillieManga  It appears that you're trying to prove beyond any doubt that your shoe size dwarfs your IQ, that you're triggered, and that you have no substance. You have the right to be wrong
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  954. You're a dude. Cope harder with the help of a better therapist
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  955.  @TheBigJayAgenda  That won't make you a woman either, dude.
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  956.  @TheBigJayAgenda  You're a dude. Get a better therapist, and learn to cope with reality
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  957.  @TheBigJayAgenda  Um... Trans women are dudes with issues prancing around as though they're women without issues. You can't change your gender. You can only reject traditional gender roles by engaging in various levels of cosplay and LARPing, or not. You could have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon, and it wouldn't make you a Klingon either. A dude with top and bottom surgery and wearing a dress is still a dude, regardless of his desire to be a woman-- he's not and can't ever be, is the point you can't escape
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  958.  @kenseyofcourse  BTW, I couldn't care less what they've gone through. The world doesn't care. When they make it my business, by insisting that I participate in their LARP and cosplay, by insisting in me or anyone else using their subjective terminology, in contrast to reality. No... The answer is No. Don't Care
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  959.  @kenseyofcourse  I identify as someone who doesn't have to participate in the delusional fantasies of the mentally impaired
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  960.  @Jesoysauce  Yes, as a man who doesn't have to participate in the delusional fantasies of the mentally impaired
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  961.  @WillieManga  We aren't talking about my character. We're talking facts vs fiction, and my scrutiny of the ideological cult-like narrative of which you seem to subscribe, to which you've given no substantive reply nor rebuttal. Your feelings counter to reality are yours to have. It's when you start insisting on everyone's participation in your LARP and cosplay that you're going to continue to find-- most people aren't willing to deny objective reality, in favor of massaging your 'feelings'. Just sayin And why would they? You're not the center of the universe. The expectation that they should participate in the 1st place is unbelievably self-centered and arrogant.
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  962.  @WillieManga  You: trans women are women because they say the feel like they are Me: No, they're men with issues, LARPing and engaging in cosplay, as the stereotypical caricature of women-- Still men w/ issues pretending to be women without issues You're dismissed
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  963.  @WillieManga  Well, seethe if you must, then Cope Harder. Kenneth Zucker et Al 2021 Watched trans women, diagnosed, and after 20 years almost 90 percent desisted
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  964.  quarlie1086  A woman isn't a social construct, feeling or a costume that a man can put on or take off. There are people. People exist. People are human and they're either male or female... That's it. As it turns out, women (ALL of them) are born female, and men are all born male. Cis/trans, as best as I can tell, are terms used by cult activists to pretend that not all men are born male, and to pretend that not all women are female-- BUT they are. Why should all of society be required to deny objective reality and be compelled to participate in the LARP and cosplay-- as a matter of law, counter to objective reality???
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  965.  @supersoursorbet  The salient point that seems to elude you is-- despite that, the rate is still nearly 40%, which is 10x's higher than the general population
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  966. @@MetalCrowd-je2bv Not all of them. I posit that a significant percentage, are those involved in cosplay and LARP, are representative what appears like Goth 2.0., and do not suffer with GD. Nonetheless... Your difficulty dealing with, processing and accepting reality and lacking the coping mechanisms preparing you to deal with the adversity in life that everyone faces--demonstrates precisely the problems associated with affirmation-based treatment protocols. Too many conflate gender (There are only 2-- male/female)... that's it, with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys). Then, they conflate gender with gender roles (These vary from culture to culture, country to country, and society to society, however; without exception, they all are in regard to the roles of males and females-- in those countries, cultures and societies). Look, you could identify as a Klingon for all I care (I Don't). You might believe you're a Klingon too (Again, Don't care), and choose to have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon too (Again, Don't care), but it doesn't make you a Klingon. Choosing to call a man (trans woman) doesn't alter reality even a little bit-- Still a man. A woman isn't a feeling, a social construct, or a costume. Women, all of them-- are born female.
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  967. @@MetalCrowd-je2bv Really??? The conclusion of the following studies don't seem to lend any credibility to your claim, and the rates are still much much higher than the general population's rate-- so, Make of that what you will. Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, self termination behavior, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. "Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group." A 2020 academic study with a sample size of 372 respondents found that 40 percent of transgender people had attempted self termination. Similarly, in 2016, the National Transgender Discrimination Survey found that 41 percent of 6,450 respondents said they had previously attempted self termination. By comparison, the CDC found that in 2020, 0.36 percent of the population had attempted self termination. According to a 2022 survey by The Trevor Project, an LGBTQ+ suicide prevention organization, nearly 1 in 5 young people who identified as transgender or non-binary have attempted self termination. Try Again??
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  968.  @TheBigJayAgenda  No, men and women aren't social constructs; They're human beings who reach the age of adulthood, and how they identify doesn't alter that fact
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  969. You can't change your gender. You can only reject traditional gender roles by engaging in various levels of cosplay and LARPing. If sex and gender are independent, why should a male/man bother altering his primary sex characteristics to mimic the primary sex characteristics of a woman? Make it make sense if gender is merely a social construct, and independent from sex-- why not identify as a girl without going out of the way to alter your appearance to present as the stereotypical and objective primary sex characteristics of a female human the target????? Make it make sense
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  970.  @TheDemonAscended  Give me anything proving that a man, regardless of his severe anxiety about the reality of his biology, or wishing reality was different, is anything other than a man. There are no trans humans. Humans are male or female... That's it. All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, fetish, feeling, preference or a costume.
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  971. @YourRandomBAD Not an answer. Shocking /S Your triggered whining is boring You 1st
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  972. @YourRandomBAD Then, quit acting like I need to participate in your cosplay and LARP as though it's based in objective reality with your insistence on grammatically incorrect pronouns and the expectation that you can trample on women's rights as an entitlement, misogynist.
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  973. @YourRandomBAD You're the one who was arrested in the women's room for exposing yourself. Perv
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  974.  @danachangali171  Dudes in disguise
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  975.  @danachangali171  A dude in a dress who has his body surgically altered, removing himself from the gene pool, is still a man. What are you whining about? Do you believe that spaces designated by gender/sex are referring to gender roles? Make it make sense I Don't care if you want to wear a dress, makeup, heels and a wig, get boob implants, have HRT and have your properly functioning genitalia removed surgically-- Feel free, but still a man. The justification for separating men and women in prison, showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, and sports teams/leagues seems to be confusing to trans activists. Whats the issue with it??? Justify and explain how eliminating women's private spaces and allowing men to encroach isn't misogyny?
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  976. @YourRandomBAD Exposing your nonsense hasn't been much of a challenge. All women are born female, and as it has been pointed out-- the trans activists insist that gender identity and sex are separate, so can anyone justify encroaching on things separated based on sex, as an entitlement, or reason why things segregated based on sex like showers, locker rooms, sports, sports teams and prisons should not be segregated based on sex? While we're at it, is ANYONE able to justify the expectation that just because someone presents and identifies in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must then agree to and be obligated to treat them as though they're the opposite sex? Looking forward to seeing if anyone can justify why those expectations should be taken seriously, by anyone. Got anything???
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  977. The radical gender activist ideologues use the word trans phobia as though it's synonymous with what the rest of the world call's "Common sense", to shut down scrutiny, and free speech. It's totally intellectually vacant
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  978. @YourRandomBAD You want to argue for sport, because you're a troll without a clue or a valid case justifying your sense of entitlement. That's fine... You have no valid or relevant argument so far; It's why you're rejected and invalidated. Try to be relevant. There is no such thing as trans gender. All mammalian species are of a binary sexual dichotomy of male and female, respectively and that state is fixed and permanent, including with humans-- as established via actual science, not the science-fiction and pseudo-science you conflate with it. Your subjective gender identity isn't what makes anyone a man or a woman-- that's DNA/biology. Transgender is a term used by radical ideologues, which is a social construct, which in no way affects anyone's biology. All men are born male, all women are born female and neither is a social construct, feeling, fetish, personality trait or temperament, a preference or a costume, and neither become the other with a subjective gender identity claim and/or LARP or cosplay. Your entire narrative is incoherent, of course, you know and admit you're only trolling for sport-- trying to make the most absurd strawman arguments as possible, while you gish gallop all your sophistry and with all of that-- for what? tp still be wrong, as though stoopid is the new cool. You need to make a friend
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  979. @YourRandomBAD Not much of a refutation... shocker /s
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  980. @YourRandomBAD I did refute your fallacy myself. Was that back when you were imagining that wearing your fairy princess costume actually made you a fairy princess? Stunned into irrelevant avoidance again. Not much of a rebuttal. Shocker... /s If you could have articulated a coherent rational response, you would've by now, but nope... just continuous juvenile antics and substance free gnashing of teeth from you. You're so mad your costume isn't fooling me, you have earned exactly zero credibility.
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  981. @YourRandomBAD I know, that's all you have... You lost the argument. Congratulations! Your inability to articulate a substantive response to my scrutiny that a subjective gender identity claim isn't what makes anyone a man or a woman-- it's biology. You can scream about it all you like, but It won't make me wrong or your arguments coherent.
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  982. @YourRandomBAD Says the creepy dude who preys on women and kids
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  983. @YourRandomBAD Glad you finally admit to being a predator, who preys on women and kids. Now, get some help
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  984. @YourRandomBAD Liars like you, have no evidence to support any of your false and libelous claims or your incoherent ideological narratives or sense of self entitlement. You aren't rejected because you claim to be trans or have a quirky sense of fashion... It's because you're an unjustified, self-entitled ass
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  985. @YourRandomBAD Your triggered insults and false accusations are indicative of a small mind and a morally and ethics-free, bankrupt character Just an observation-- You've failed to justify the appeals for validation, affirmation or acceptance as rational or reasonable, least of all made any compelling case for anyone's participation in the LARP/cosplay as though it was based in reality. Think deeper thoughts
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  986. @YourRandomBAD blah blah blah troll. You failed to prove anything I said incorrect, because you have nothing intellectual to bring to the argument.
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  987. @YourRandomBAD The dude creeping in the girl's locker room and showers-- projecting about his socially bankrupt pro-pedo activism. Can't make this shit up Asking questions to clarify what doesn't make sense to me about your "LARP and activism" and articulating why your narratives seem incoherent-- isn't harassment or a LARP. Science has already established the fact that all mammals are of a binary sexual dichotomy of male/female and that state is fixed and permanent. Your difficulty with that and the fact that a subjective gender identity claim isn't what makes anyone a man or a woman is a you problem, that I unfortunately can't cure for you. Thanks for the invite, but I decline to participate in the cosplay and LARP as though it's based in reality. Happy Halloween though... fyi-- Your disguise doesn't fool anyone but you
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  988. @YourRandomBAD Happy Halloween... You look ridiculous in your dress, guy
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  989. @YourRandomBAD Says the creepy dude in the girls locker room, pretending he's justified in being there. You are an empty vessel, unjustified in your expectations that anyone ought to pretend you're something you're not
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  990. @YourRandomBAD Thou does project too much
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  991. @YourRandomBAD Pdfiles like you have no moral foundation, and preying on girls and women as though you're entitled to, with no justification-- are the predators and misogynists.
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  992. @YourRandomBAD There's no truth in you. Your projection is evident in your triggered mass posting of garbage. The expectation that anyone ought to treat men with issues, as though they're women is yet to be justified by you or anyone else. Cowards one and all
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  993.  @CurrySalvatore-r1p  No, they're getting rejected because no one has justified the expectation that males making a subjective and unverifiable gender identity claim are entitled to access the girl's showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, women's shelters, prisons, sports leagues/divisions/teams, or all girl schools, or that everyone is obligated to accept, affirm or validate or pretend they are
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  994.  @DemonIsAway  There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. Now you know better
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  995.  @Sentient-potato  Your comment doesn't prove anything I've written to be inaccurate or incorrect in any way whatsoever either. That's what I meant by 'not much of a rebuttal'.
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  996. @YourRandomBAD I've been consistent. Biology is what make a woman a woman and a man a man-- Not a subjective gender identity claim removed from reality
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  997. @YourRandomBAD I'm not trying to persuade you or anyone else. Quite the opposite. I've been asking you all to make a coherent case that justifies the expectation that everyone in society is obligated to participate in the affirmation treatment process and pretend they don't notice the difference between a woman and a dude in a dress, who claims he's a woman
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  998. @YourRandomBAD Even when telling you what I question, you argue instead of providing an answer, and gaslight instead. Unreal
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  999. @YourRandomBAD Well, then your expectation to be taken seriously is without merit
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  1000. @YourRandomBAD Oh, I reject BS on principle. I merely was looking to see if anyone would or could justify the expectation that men who call themselves trans women have-- to be treated as though they're women, when they make a subjective gender identity claim. No one has been able or willing to articulate anything
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  1001. @YourRandomBAD No, they have not justified everyone's participation in the affirmation treatment program.
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  1002. @YourRandomBAD Your entire ideological narrative is toxic
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  1003. @YourRandomBAD You're the creepy perv trying to get a peek in the girl's locker room and showers. No matter the amount of provocation on your part, or how much you wish for it to be true-- your toxic narratives that you promote just aren't true
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  1004. @YourRandomBAD You can waste all your time talking nonsense... It isn't persuasive and doesn't make your case valid. What you wish were true is just not
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  1005. @YourRandomBAD You're so mad... You have no justification for believing the nonsense you've been spewing, and you've presented no reason why anyone else ought to believe it, much less adhere to it
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  1006.  @TheBigJayAgenda  Their incoherent narratives are invalid. They aren't entitled to their expectation that everyone bestow women's rights on men who claim to be trans or to the elimination of women's rights, so their delicate feelings are not upset. They need to get a better therapist and learn to cope
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  1007.  @DemonIsAway  Respect is earned, not owed-- and it's reserved for that which is respectable.
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  1008. @samiraalighieri You seem to be obsessed with the expectation that males are entitled to be in spaces designated for females; They're Not
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  1009.  @AngelaPhilips-o5v  There's no h8 involved in recognizing that a dude in a dress is a dude in a dress... That's just being observant. How is it not total mi$ogyny at it's worst, when males try to misappropriate womanhood unto themselves, by claiming it as their gender identity, and using that as a justification to gain access to places designated for girls/women based on biology, not emotional metaphysical claims or feelings???
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  1010.  @GALL0WSHUM0R  There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female
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  1011.  @Gaeilge.  No they aren't. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a man, and that's being born male. They've gotten it totally wrong on gender. Gender, (there are 2 male, and female) that's it, refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Then, they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then they conflate gender with sexual preference. Then, they conflate males with females, fact with fiction and men with women. A woman isn't a personality, a social construct, a feeling, or a costume that a man can just put on or take off-- She's an adult, human, female. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman-- and that's being born female. For some reason, you seem unable to process that.
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  1012.  @harperthegoblin  Your gamete type, however-- does illustrate whether you're male or female
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  1013.  @Mel-wn9gb  Dylan is a dude with issues
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  1014. There are no trans humans. All men are born male, all women are born female... ZERO exceptions, and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference, subjective gender identity or a costume. No one has proven that a man with severe anxiety about his gender, who chooses to cross dress, and alter his body chemistry unnaturally along with his anatomy-- is anything other than a man in a dress... Got anything?
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  1015.  @ThatFont  Look, if your idea of a preferred 'woman' is a dude in a dress... It means you're gay. So, Go be happy instead of acting like a snarky tool
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  1016. @YourRandomBAD Seethe if you must, but the trans clown act is indeed a clown act. Dudes who chop off their junk, pretending they're girls are just dudes who've chopped off their junk. Cope or not... It's true and nothing you say will change that
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  1017. @YourRandomBAD The thing is, It's you who are expecting the world and everyone in it to operate as though you're owed something. That's wrong! It is for you to make your case a compelling one, if you expect the participation and cooperation of others, and so far-- You fail to persuade. Science has already established that All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference, or costume, and that state is fixed and permanent as it is with every other mammalian species. Way too many (You included) conflate Gender/Sex (= Biology, there are only 2 male/female... That's it) with Gender Roles (Social Constructs referring to the roles of males and females in society). and again with personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) as though they're synonymous and they are Not. Male/Female are categories of the binary dichotomy of all mammalian species, which is fixed and permanent. That you aren't aware is a you problem.
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  1018.  @transally1243  I find it interesting that NONE of you has responded in good faith with anything that can withstand scrutiny, and none have proven anything I've written to be inaccurate, or incorrect in anyway whatsoever. You seem to have no problem with women being uncomfortable showering with men (claiming to be women), sharing locker rooms, changing rooms, sharing prison accommodations with violent male offenders, and competing with men. Looks like entitlement , narcissism, and the height of misogyny
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  1019. @YourRandomBAD The trans clown act is indeed a clown act. Dudes who chop off their junk, pretending they're girls are just dudes who've chopped off their junk. Cope or not... It's true and nothing you say will change that, to make your incoherent arguments valid
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  1020.  @olivesareoliver  Trans men are women with issues, prancing around as though they're men without issues-- Still women
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  1021.  @thebuilder5271  That dude is a dude and will always be a dude. Quit conflating personality traits and temperament with gender. They're not synonymous
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  1022.  @playercore7444  How do you reconcile the fact that 40% self terminate. Happy, well-adjusted people don't tend to do that, now do they?
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  1023.  @dsplays1  No, gender is biological. Gender/sex is established at conception and is observed and documented at birth or before. No one has proven that a man with severe anxiety about reality, his biology or wishing it were different is anything other than a man, yet the activists insist men claiming to be trans women-- ARE women, as if women were a social construct, rather than a biological category of the human species. That's demonstrably false. Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in his/her womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate him/herself). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender. Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;) Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex (There are only 2-- male/female... That's it) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles (without exception refer to the roles of males and females in society) as though they're synonymous and they are not. Science has already proven that the binary dichotomy of all mammals is male/female. A man in a dress is still a man A man with anxiety about his sex/gender-- still a man A man calling himself a woman-- still a man A man with an effeminate personality--still a man
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  1024.  @playercore7444  No, it doesn't. It remains nearly 10x's higher than the general population. I suggest because-- You don't effectively help someone who suffers from delusions by affirming their delusions are based in reality
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  1025.  @Starburst_Paws  That doesn't justify claims of efficacy regarding affirmation-based treatment does it? “Risk of Suicide and Self-Harm Following Gender-Affirmation Surgery” Individuals who underwent gender-affirming surgery had a 12.12-fold higher suicide attempt risk than those who did not (3.47% vs. 0.29%, RR 95% CI 9.20-15.96, p < 0.0001). “Gender-affirming surgery is significantly associated with elevated suicide attempt risks, underlining the necessity for comprehensive post-procedure psychiatric support.” What about Kenneth Zucker (He’s on the board at wpath), showed that up to 88% desist and resort to a gay life style-- also-- look at the leaked wpath files, and Dr. Hillary Cass’s latest NHS report.
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  1026. @YourRandomBAD Learn to read. I never suggested it does. Feel free to cite the peer reviewed study you're referring to re: your 10% claim. Learn the difference between reality and fantasy. All women are born female, and as it has been pointed out-- the trans activists insist that gender identity and sex are separate, so can anyone justify encroaching on things separated based on sex, as an entitlement, or reason why things segregated based on sex like showers, locker rooms, sports, sports teams and prisons should not be segregated based on sex? While we're at it, is ANYONE able to justify the expectation that just because someone presents and identifies in a non-traditional fashion, that all of society must then agree to and be obligated to treat them as though they're the opposite sex? Looking forward to seeing if anyone can justify why those expectations should be taken seriously, by anyone
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  1027. ​ @TheBestShirt  Don't care if you listen to me or not. The vast majority of people reject the trans-activist ideological narratives, because they're not confused about reality vs the trans imagination.
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  1028.  @Фор-ы3е  All women are born female, all men are born male and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish nor a costume. Quit conflating sex/gender with personality and gender roles as though they're synonymous... They're not
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  1029.  @Фор-ы3е  No... Sex/Gender is biological. Gender Roles, without exception-- are social constructs referring to the roles of males and females in society.
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  1030.  @Фор-ы3е  Way too many are inappropriately conflating gender/sex (There are only 2- male/female... That's it) with gender roles (Social constructs which refer to the roles of males and females in society) and personality (None are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) as if they're synonymous. That's a massive error on your part. All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, fetish, feeling, preference or a costume. Gender: The status of being either male or female, and because the entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in his/her womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate him/herself). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender. Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;)
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  1031.  @Фор-ы3е  Again, you're inappropriately and incorrectly conflating personality traits (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), temperament, gender roles (The roles of males and females in society) and gender/sex. A dude with severe anxiety about the reality of his biology is still a dude. You can identify as a Klingon for all I care (I don't at al), and have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon and it doesn't make you a Klingon, and anyone who says it does is delusional too. The problem with the trans activist's ideological narratives are that life is based in objective reality and most aren't confused about discerning reality from the trans imagination. You fail to persuade
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  1032.  @Фор-ы3е  btw, a 40% self-delete rate, despite affirmation-based treatment, doesn't illustrate any justification of efficacious results
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  1033. Is that your expert analytical conclusion. Do you work for Budweiser, Target, Disney, or Mulvaney? 🙄🤕
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  1034.  @EllysEscape  Woopie Doo
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  1035.  @monicadaniels784  LOL
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  1036.  @EllysEscape  You are??? In a game of wits, you've come unarmed. gtfoh junior
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  1037.  @EllysEscape  Having difficulty deciphering the differences between males and females, I have no doubt you're confused about a number of things. A woman isn't a social construct, a feeling, or a costume that a man can put on or take off. Women (ALL of them) are born female. Now you know better.
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  1038.  @EllysEscape  Reality won't be denied to coddle the feelings of the delusional
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  1039.  @EllysEscape  Stop gaslighting. There's no hate involved in recognizing that a man disguised as a woman-- is a man. That's just being observant. If you choose to have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon (I really couldn't possibly care less), it doesn't make you one, and anyone who suggests it does is delusional too.
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  1040.  @legostarwarsisthebest6448  Why should a subjective, unverifiable gender identity matter at all, in areas designated by biological sex?
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  1041.  @ariana9941  There is only 1 kind of woman, and they are all born female. Trans women are MEN with issues, pretending that they're women without issues
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  1042.  @cyruscheng499  I personally identify w/ the IDGAF+ community, which consists of the rest of the men and women in the world who reject the incoherent trans-activist ideological narrative for the madness that it is. Budweiser, Target, Disney and others can confirm. ;)
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  1043.  @NintyPikachu  No, they are not. Women (ALL of them) are born female. A woman isn't a social construct, or a costume that a man can put on or take off. Try again?
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  1044.  @harperthegoblin  I actually couldn't care less, but YES. To drive an agenda. Why do you ask?
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  1045.  @Rampje  It's more than that... It's an irrational fear, and an attempt to pretend that there's another kind of woman, other than those born female-- even though there isn't
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  1046.  @zomzomino  No, you don't. DNA dictates the production of objective biological differences between males and females. 100% of the population is either male or female, even intersex people. If they have a Y chromosome, they are heterogametic and male. If not, they are homogametic and female. But you knew that because you've actually educated yourself on these conditions, right?
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  1047.  @zomzomino  Don't get me wrong.. I'm not trying to best anyone, I'm just trying to be truthful regarding the matter. Too many conflate personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender (There are 2 ,ale/female... that's it) and gender roles (which vry from culture to culture, society to society, and country to country--BUT, they all relate to the roles of males and females in those societies, cultures and countries. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female. A woman isn't a social construct, a feeling or a costume that a man can put on or take off. 🤙
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  1048.  @zomzomino  Sadly, re: their happiness-- Their self delete rates are much much higher than the general population, even after affirmation treatment, and happy, well-adjusted people don't tend to self terminate.
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  1049.  @zomzomino  Still remaining way higher than the general population, showing affirmation-based treatment to be woefully inadequate.
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  1050.  @zomzomino  It's not dramatically lower than the rates were, prior to affirmation-based treatment protocols, and it's still way higher than the current general population's rate. Perspective-- something you seem to lack in your analysis
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  1051.  @zomzomino  Stop gaslighting. There's no hate involved in recognizing that a man disguised as a woman-- is a man. That's just being observant. If you choose to have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon (I really couldn't possibly care less), it doesn't make you one, and anyone who suggests it does-- is delusional too.
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  1052.  @zomzomino  What is dehumanizing about recognizing that a man in a dress is-- a man??
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  1053. @YourRandomBAD I remember you ran from the challenge of providing a single peer reviewed study showing that a man can become a woman, and reverted to sophistry, gaslighting and straw man arguments lacking in substance, failing to justify your claims as valid.
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  1054. @YourRandomBAD No, you have not. That isn't from a peer reviewed medical study proving men can become women. I don't care if you want to prance around dressed like a fairy princess. Go for it, but it doesn't make you a fairy princess. If you think it does, you're only fooling yourself. If a dude in a dress fools you into thinking he's a woman-- that's on you
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  1055. @YourRandomBAD Uh huh... Believe your fantasy reality if you like. I'm not buying it. In 99.4% of cases gender/sex matches gender identity, which is not even 1 standard deviation. Hardly 'normal'... More like the extreme illustration of abnormal
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  1056. @YourRandomBAD Your sophistry is rejected, along with your belief that men can become women. If a dude in a dress is a 'woman' for you-- have at it.
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  1057. @YourRandomBAD Not buying what you're selling. None of them have proven that a man can become a woman. If a dude in a dress is the 'woman' for you, you're gay, and whatever... But, it doesn't make him a her
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  1058. @YourRandomBAD Not a justification that your absurd ideology, or baseless claims should be taken seriously by the majority who reject the notion that their participation in the LARP and cosplay is required. Neither your acceptance, approval, acknowledgment, nor validation is required... I was never trying to persuade you to do anything other than justify your narratives against my questions and scrutiny, and you failed to do so. No Worries That's you and yours, seeking validation for being something you wish you were, identify as, though you're not, from the rest of the majority of society, who aren't buying your narratives, and reject the expectation that their participation in your LARP and cosplay is required and you fail to persuade. Good Job genius
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  1059. @YourRandomBAD The trans clown act is indeed a clown act. Dudes who chop off their junk, pretending they're girls are just dudes who've chopped off their junk. Cope or not... It's true and nothing you say will change that
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  1060. @YourRandomBAD Open Letter in Support of Dr. Kenneth Zucker and the Need to Promote Robust Scientific Debate Sponsored by FAIR in Medicine May 5, 2023 We, the undersigned signatories, are expressing our support for Dr. Kenneth Zucker, an academically robust and unbiased editorial process at the Archives of Sexual Behavior, and uninterrupted publication of “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria: Parent Reports on 1655 Possible Cases” by Diaz and Bailey. We condemn and reject the censorious demands being directed at Springer Nature, the company that publishes Archives of Sexual Behavior, that this paper be retracted, and that the editor of the journal, Dr. Zucker, be sanctioned for allowing the paper’s publication. The appropriate action is to have an open debate about the paper—not to silence those whose views one finds disagreeable. Currently as many as one in 10–20 youth report gender dysphoria. The paper by Diaz and Bailey adds to the growing body of knowledge about the various factors contributing to the rapid rise of adolescent-onset gender dysphoria–a phenomenon that was exceedingly rare in the past. Specifically, the paper engages with parental reports of the cases of “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria,” or ROGD. The ROGD hypothesis posits that in some cases, gender dysphoria in adolescence may be mediated by social factors. The potential viability of the ROGD hypothesis has been endorsed not only by the parents, as described by Diaz and Bailey, but also by the clinicians working with this patient population, and the affected patients themselves. If it proves to be correct, then the treatment approaches to this novel population of adolescents may need to be different, including the possibility that such cases may benefit from less invasive interventions that do not carry the irreversible effects of hormonal and surgical interventions known as “gender-affirming care.” The concern that the currently-presenting gender dysphoric youth are different from the originally-studied cases, and that they may be better helped by psychotherapy, has also been expressed by the originators of the “Dutch” protocol for gender-transitioning minors. We are particularly disappointed that among the signatories demanding that the research be retracted is the current President of WPATH. WPATH recently acknowledged the role of social influence as a possible contributing factor to gender dysphoria in adolescents, saying: “For a select subgroup of young people, susceptibility to social influence impacting gender may be an important differential to consider.” (Coleman et al., 2022, p. 45) Signing a demand to retract one of the very few papers examining the possible influence of social factors is inconsistent with WPATH’s own statements. We are aware of the allegation that a lack of an Institutional Review Board approval of this publication warrants a retraction. However, this is demonstrably false. Springer’s policies explicitly allow the Editor-in-Chief the discretion to accept a publication that has not sought IRB approval. The first author of this study was not affiliated with a university and did not need to seek IRB approval. Further, we are aware that the activists are alleging that the paper’s methodology was biased by only relying on parental reports. However, parental reports are commonly used to gather information about children and adolescents. A highly influential paper in the field that is often cited to support social transition for youth also relied on parental reports. However, in this case the methodology was not criticized. The difference appears to be that in this example, the parents supported their children’s gender transition, whereas in the Diaz and Bailey paper, the parents were concerned with the risks of inappropriate medicalization of their children. Unfortunately, this is not the first time journals and researchers who dare explore the subject of ROGD have been targeted for cancellation. What is currently happening to the Diaz and Bailey paper bears a marked resemblance to the prior attempt to silence the original “ROGD” paper by Lisa Littman, MD. Under tremendous pressure from critics, PLOS ONE subjected the paper to a second round of peer review post-publication. The paper withstood this unprecedented scrutiny, with its results unchanged. To quote Jeffrey S. Flier, MD, the 21st Dean of Harvard Medical School, who wrote eloquently about the the attempts to silence research into ROGD, “Many papers face questions after they have been published, which is well and proper: the systematic assessment and scrutiny of published work is a core method by which the scientific community corrects errors, and builds upon imperfect preliminary observations…But that is not what has happened…. [the] critics have not performed any systematic analysis of her findings, but seem principally motivated by ideological opposition to [the] conclusions. We fear that just like in the case of the original ROGD paper, the demands for retraction and sanctioning of Dr. Zucker, the Editor-in-Chief are principally motivated by the ideological opposition to Diaz and Bailey’s conclusion. Because of Dr. Zucker’s unique experience in the field and his role as the Editor-in-Chief, the journal, Archives of Sexual Behavior, has become a formidable force in the growing debate about how to best care for the rapidly growing numbers of gender-diverse youth. Dr. Zucker has demonstrated neutrality by routinely publishing articles on both sides of this contentious issue. While the paper by Diaz and Bailey–like all research–has limitations, it is vital to continue to study the ROGD hypothesis. Ongoing attempts to silence any research into the explosion of teens who are now identifying as transgender only stands to hurt the very patients the activists are claiming to help–young gender nonconforming people. We, the undersigned signatories, ask that Springer Nature, the company that publishes Archives of Sexual Behavior, takes a nuanced view of this situation, examines the context in which these complaints have been leveled, and chooses to uphold the principles and practice of scientific discussion, debate, and freedom of expression by rejecting calls to retract the paper “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria: Parent Reports on 1655 Possible Cases” by Diaz and Bailey and refusing to sanction Dr. Kenneth Zucker for his decision to publish the paper.
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  1061. @YourRandomBAD You believe that huh? LOL If You think women's only spaces and organizations are segregated as such, based on subjective gender identity claims vs biology, then you're not too bright and are showing your misogyny
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  1062. @YourRandomBAD Why would I be afraid to be proven wrong? You haven't done it yet, and you can't because I'm correct. Science has already established the fact that all men are born male, all women are born female and that state is fixed and permanent, as it is with ALL mammalian species. Again, Not one of those 73 studies you're referring to prove a man can become a woman. Until they do, all your arguments are just whining and hot air. Dudes w/ psych issues have no business infiltrating women's only spaces and organizations, regardless of their beliefs, anxiety or claims about their gender identity. Your strawman arguments, sophistry, cult terminology and gaslighting are rejected as invalid
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  1063. @YourRandomBAD You have said a lot of invalid nonsense, none of it unfortunately for you justifies why a dude in a dress pretending to be a woman should expect everyone to pretend along with him
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  1064. @YourRandomBAD Sure... sure... You have quite an active imagination. Your comments show that YOU don't have much clarity on anything rational. The answers to your inane cult comments and ideology don't change, and your inane comments don't establish truth or an obligation to accept as valid and participate in your LARP and cosplay, as though it's based in reality. Science has already established the fact that all mammals are of a binary sexual dichotomy of male/female and that state is fixed and permanent. Your difficulty with that and the fact that a subjective gender identity claim isn't what makes anyone a man or a woman is a you problem, that I unfortunately can't cure for you. Thanks for the invite, but I decline to participate in the cosplay and LARP as though it's based in reality. Happy Halloween though... fyi-- Your disguise doesn't fool anyone but you
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  1065. @YourRandomBAD Nothing persuasive from you suggesting that anyone should take you or your ideological narratives seriously or justifying the expectation that anyone ought to treat a man in a dress as anything other than a man in a dress
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  1066.  @justadexdpup  Your inane comment comes across like you're a petulant late-teen, lonely and looking for attention.
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  1067.  @puppyqueen5688  While you're alive, just know that there are no trans humans-- only males and females and the feelings of confused individuals doesn't alter reality that people cannot 'become' the opposite sex/gender. ALL women are born female and all men are born males and that status is fixed and permanent.
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  1068.  @puppyqueen5688  Spoken like a self-entitled narcissist
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  1069.  @puderkman  Have you thought about the fact that 80% of the population of the world are religious people, who reject the trans-activist ideological narrative as cult madness??
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  1070.  @monicadaniels784  You believe if you chop off your bits and change your costume, that it makes you a woman. LOL It doesn't
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  1071. What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, costumes, or preferences. That you/they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's your/their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you/they wished they were.
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  1072.  @TheBigJayAgenda  You certainly haven't proven that a man who wishes he were, or believes he's a woman is anything other than a man. Got anything??? People with Swyer syndrome have female external genitalia and some female internal reproductive structures. These individuals usually have a uterus and fallopian tubes, but their gonads (ovaries or testes) are not functional. Instead, the gonads are small and underdeveloped and contain little gonadal tissue. These structures are called streak gonads. The streak gonadal tissue is at risk of developing cancer that is often hard-to-detect, so it is usually removed surgically. Swyer syndrome is also called 46,XY complete gonadal dysgenesis; the medical term “dysgenesis” means "abnormal development." Because they appear female on the outside, babies with Swyer syndrome are usually raised as girls and develop a female gender identity, which is a person's sense of their gender (girl, boy, a combination, or neither). Swyer syndrome may be identified before birth, at birth, or later when a child does not go through puberty as usual. Because they do not have functional ovaries that produce hormones, affected individuals often begin hormone replacement therapy during early adolescence to start puberty, causing the breasts and uterus to grow, and eventually leading to menstruation. Hormone replacement therapy is also important for bone health and helps reduce the risk of low bone density (osteopenia) and fragile bones (osteoporosis). Women with Swyer syndrome do not produce eggs (ova), but if they have a uterus, they may be able to become pregnant with a donated egg or embryo. You're going to really need to do better than that junior
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  1073.  @WillowTheGremlin  There is no hate involved in recognizing that someone is not that which they present themselves as-- That's just being observant of objective reality. Cope Harder
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  1074.  @WillowTheGremlin  I'm not the one struggling with the truth that there are only males and females and that women (ALL of them) are born female, making using the cis prefix entirely useless and irrelevant. That would be you
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  1075.  @angrycoffeekid  The world doesn't owe you acceptance and understanding. Get real. You better develop some coping skills to deal with the fact that not everyone is going to like you, understand you, or tolerate your counter-culture ideas and to suggest that the ought to is arrogant
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  1076.  @angrycoffeekid  Quit gaslighting. Threats and actual violence has been committed by trans individuals too... If you choose to be a counter-culture individual, quit acting like society has to embrace you and your counter-culture choices. Cope Harder kid. The world doesn't owe you special favor
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  1077.  @monicadaniels784  If only... You're the ones who insist that everyone acknowledge your counter-culture, cult ideology with pronouns and participating in your LARP and cosplay, as though your subjective self perception were based in reality, and insisting on exposing other people's children to your pride events and other adult burlesque style of masquerade.
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  1078.  @Zebastian5522  if you look at the ucla 2014 suicide data, transmen who feel completely accepted and they are “passing”, so to them no one can tell they are trans still exhibit a 38 percent suicide
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  1079.  @WillieManga  Are you trying to prove that your shoe size dwarfs your IQ? Those who are not accepted have higher rates of self-deletion. Get a Clue
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  1080.  @WillieManga  I admit that Kenneth Zucker et Al 2021 Watched trans women, diagnosed, and after 20 years-- almost 90% desisted. I also admit that You certainly don't seem to have any of your own original thoughts, re: the claims of efficacy of affirmation treatment, with the self termination rate being so much higher than the general population, at nearly 40%, even after transition-- being justifiable. Those who lack the coping mechanisms to deal with life as it is, aren't sufficiently helped by affirming a delusional dissociative condition as though it's based in reality, evidenced by the extraordinarily high rate of self-deletes, compared to the general population-- despite your preferred affirmation-based treatment protocols. You claim it's efficacious, and when scrutinized, it doesn't seem to be the Utopian answer you seem to believe it is afterall.
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  1081.  @Mel-wn9gb  Cis and trans are terms used in chemistry that have nothing to do with gender. What you exist as, is a matter of objective reality, and wishing you were something else doesn't affect that-- All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are social constructs, feelings, fetishes, costumes, or preferences. That you/they can't accept that, is at the root of the problem w/ GD. It's your/their inability to cope with things as they are in reality, rather than as you/they wished they were.
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  1082.  @Sentient-potato  The 'because you said so' standard has been issued exactly zero credibility. Quit conflating gender/sex (There are only 2 male/female), with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton, and none are gender specific-hence effeminate males, butch females, and tomboys), and again with gender roles (vary by culture, country, and society, AND without exception, refer to the roles of males and females, in those cultures, countries, and societies), as though they're synonymous, and that's an error on your part.
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  1083. @YourRandomBAD So, that's a no-- you can't make it make sense either. Got it
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  1084. @YourRandomBAD Not my job to participate in the affirmation treatment plan of random individuals pretending to be something they're not
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  1085. @YourRandomBAD Great! Then, I shouldn't hear about your preferred pronouns as though I'm somehow obligated to participate in your treatment by pretending that a man in a dress, making a subjective gender identity claim as being a woman-- is anything other than a man
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  1086. @YourRandomBAD Says the creepy dude in the girls locker room, pretending he's justified in being there. You are an empty vessel, unjustified in your expectations that anyone ought to pretend you're something you're not
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  1087. @YourRandomBAD It's You, not me-- appealing to the majority to participate in your therapy and your fantasy dress up routine, seeking their acceptance, affirmation and validation, as though they're obligated. * (They're Not) Your projection is weak. You're all hot air You're the predator, hunting for negative attention. You're like the advocate in favor of the creepy dude in the girls locker room, pretending you and he are justified in being there.
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  1088. @YourRandomBAD No doubt what you hear often, when insisting on preferred pronouns and creeping in the girl's showers and locker rooms as though you were entitled-- but you're not, so you better get used to rejection and develop some coping mechanisms to help you cope harder
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  1089.  @kaijutoaster3739  Almost perfect... All men are born male (infant boys), and develop into the adult stage of human development, becoming men. The creepy fool you're arguing with, is an agent provocateur, with zero credibility and a slimy character
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  1090.  @Steph.98114  You shut up... A dude who chops off his junk doesn't become a woman... He remains a dude -- just without his factory parts. How is that not so? You can neuter a male dog, put him in a dress and paint his nails and it doesn't make him a female dog... Your logic is fatally flawed
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  1091. @YourRandomBAD You do indeed, yap a lot of BS, and stalk those who you disagree with to provoke negative interactions. You lost this-- long ago, before you ever started, and have resorted to triggered sperging, ever since.
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  1092. @YourRandomBAD You're a triggered drama queen. I recommend a better therapist
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  1093. @YourRandomBAD That's the sort of intellectually bankrupt comment that keeps you irrelevant, and no doubt is what you're doing. Thou doth project too much. Your attempt to paint false allegations as true, is you reaching the end of your intellectual capacity and contributions, and done in bad faith- looking to be a contrarian. You have no valid claims, an immoral character, and no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
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  1094. @YourRandomBAD There's no truth in you. The woke mind virus has consumed you
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  1095. @YourRandomBAD Like 'woman' can't be defined by the left?
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  1096. @YourRandomBAD No... Not at all Check out "Intersex does not violate the sex binary" Published online 2023 May 18 at the National Library of Medicine
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  1097. @YourRandomBAD DUH! A woman is a human female who's reached the age of adulthood, and represents one half of the binary sexual dichotomy of all mammals-- and to pretend you don't recognize that it's (The word woman) a stage of female human development is laughable
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  1098. @YourRandomBAD It didn't validate them either... What's your point? What you want to believe is true just isn't.
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  1099. @YourRandomBAD NONE of them-- Not a single one justifies the participation of everyone in the affirmation treatment process as a matter of entitlement. Your entire narrative is toxic BS. You gender identity claims aren't what make anyone a man or a woman-- it's a matter of biology that you have absolutely no say about. What you wish was true just isn't
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  1100. @YourRandomBAD Long irrelevant list, and NONE of them-- Not a single one, justifies the participation of everyone in the affirmation treatment process as a matter of entitlement. Your entire narrative is toxic BS. You gender identity claims aren't what make anyone a man or a woman-- it's a matter of biology that you have absolutely no say about. What you wish was true just isn't
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  1101. @YourRandomBAD Your beliefs are insane and incorrect. Objective reality presents you being believable with a major problem. Most people aren't confused about the difference between males and females and can decipher the difference between a woman and a dude in a dress
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  1102.  @chroment0962  Yes, faking it. There is only 1 kind of woman, nd they're ALL born female. Now you know better
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  1103.  @Sentient-potato  In humans, the female is the homogametic sex, with a pair of X chromosomes, and the male is heterogametic, with an X and a Y chromosome. Women, ALL of them are born female. It's not complicated
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  1104.  @Sentient-potato  Quit conflating gender (There are 2male/female... That's it) with personality and gender roles as though they're synonymous. They aren't Believing there is some "essence" specific to males or female as far as feelings go, that can manifest "in the wrong body", is akin to a religious belief, having faith in something that is impossible to prove or disprove. The thing is though, that no one on the "trans" side can actually even explain what this "essence" is, they can't even explain it to themselves yet have convinced themselves that the feeling they have means they "are in the wrong body" - without realizing that their discomfort simply stems from not realizing that they view conforming to sexist stereotypes as legitimate measures of manhood or womanhood. That is why every explanation given of WHY a male "can't be a man, but is instead woman" etc. relies upon listing stereotypical stuff, or, in some cases is completely abstract and refuses to actually provide any explanation of what they mean, simply stating they "know" that what they feel means what they say it does, even though they can't actually provide a definition of it. "It's hard to explain but I know I'm right" is an attitude one constantly comes up against - a religious faith in something they can't define. This idea that the terms "man" and "woman" carry all this baggage, sexist stereotypes, that people need to live up to or feel comfortable with is a complete fabrication coming from the "trans" side. You lot want a term to reflect aspects of your personality as well, you want to create more boxes to put people in, as you won't accept simply just being a man or a woman based on being born male or female (and reaching adulthood, obviously people are boys and girls before becoming men or women), but believe you need this "freedom of expression" to broadcast what sexist stereotypes you feel more comfortable with - thinking the world needs to adopt the sexist view you lot have (you fail to see just how much you have in common with Conservatives). Replacing objective definitions which are based in physical reality, with entirely subjective metaphysical claims, is not logical in any way, is not morally superior, and is demonstrably harmful, not least to female rights and protections, but also to practically anyone that buys into it as it warps people's perception of the underlying issues. It hinders people in their quest for individuation, creating this false narrative of them becoming more "authentic" when the total opposite is true, they believe they need validation from others in order to be happy etc. instead of being encouraged to find more inner strength and resilience with less reliance on how people see them. Demanding to be legally recognized as the opposite sex of what one is, is in no way shape or form more authentic than accepting the physical reality one is born into. To believe we as individuals can have 100% control over our identity in society, what we are seen as by others, in interaction with, and in relation to, society/the world/physical existence is a fool's errand, it is a delusional understanding of reality and existence. Now you know better. Cope Harder, and seethe if you must
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  1105.  @Sentient-potato  No need. I recognize that people are male or female, respectively-- and comprehend that segments of each present with various physical issues, some with psych issues and some with both. The trans-activist arguments just don't withstand scrutiny, because life is based in reality, and the trans imagination just doesn't override the VAST VAST majority of people's capacity for discernment
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  1106.  @Sentient-potato  Not really surprising, as having the observational capacity to decipher the difference between males and females and reality vs fantasy seems to elude you. The problem you have, is that the world is based in objective reality, and the vast vast vast majority of people don't have difficulty discerning the differences between males and females (Psych issues, and/or physical issues not withstanding). Cope Harder, and seethe if you must-- but it won't make the trans-activist narratives coherent, mainly because they're not
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  1107.  @Sentient-potato  Your arguments just don't withstand the scrutiny, because life is based in reality, and the trans imagination just doesn't override people's capacity for discernment
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  1108.  @Sentient-potato  You're making a spectacle of yourself, and come across like a petulant teen trying to be edgy, acting in the role of an agent provocateur. You're still conflating personality with sex/gender, and gender roles as though they're synonymous-- and they aren't.
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  1109.  @chroment0962  You've gotten it totally wrong on gender. Gender, (there are 2 male, and female) that's it, refers to the sex documented at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent. Then, you conflate gender and personality. Then, you conflate gender and gender roles. Then, you conflate gender with sexual preference and fashion. Then, you conflate males with females, fact with fiction and men with women, fact with fiction, and science with science-fiction and pseudo-science. A woman isn't a personality, a social construct, a feeling, a sexual preference, or a costume that a man can just put on or take off-- She's an adult, human, female. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman-- and that's being born female. Now you know better
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  1110.  @chroment0962  A spectrum of 2-- male and female... That's it. Personality traits and temperament (is a spectrum, and they're not gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys). Quit conflating gender with personality, as though they are synonymous-- that's an error.
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  1111.  @chroment0962  Well, that comment certainly didn't prove them incorrect or inaccurate in any way whatsoever. I can only write the facts for you-- I can't unfortunately, understand them 'For' you too. That's all on you. I submit you either haven't read the scrutiny of your ideological narratives or you have a massive reading comprehension deficit at play. Which is it? Either way, you've certainly not presented any evidence that proves what I've written to be inaccurate or incorrect in any way. Your narratives just don't stand up to scrutiny. I argue that there's only 1 kind of woman, and they're all born female. A woman isn't a social construct, a feeling or a costume.
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  1112.  @Sentient-potato  Gender/sex is established at conception. Gender Roles are social constructs referring to the roles of males and females in society. Quit conflating them, as though they're synonymous
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  1113.  @Sentient-potato  You can't change your gender. You can only reject traditional gender roles by engaging in various levels of cosplay and LARPing, or not. You could have a surgeon alter your appearance to look like a Klingon, and it wouldn't make you a Klingon either. A dude with top and bottom surgery and wearing a dress is still a dude, regardless of his desire to be a woman-- he's not and can't ever be, is the point you can't escape. Don't be triggered... Just cope harder
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  1114. Don’t expect me to accept what you're not, when you can’t accept what you are
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  1115.  @Fre3r  Sure... Cool story
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  1116. @YourRandomBAD The trans clown act is indeed a clown act. Dudes who chop off their junk, pretending they're girls are just dudes who've chopped off their junk. Cope or not... It's true, and nothing anyone tells you will change that
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  1117.  @disaster4550  Gender critical? Being able to decipher the fact that there's been zero justification to expect that males who make a gender identity claim of a woman-- are then somehow entitled occupy spaces and organizations designated for females isn't in conflict with looking for the correlation and stats of trans people who's fathers are present vs those which are not “You rarely get 79 percent of the country to agree on anything,” the CNN reporter noted. “But they do, in fact, agree on the idea of opposing transgender female athletes in women’s sports.”
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  1118.  @andrejv.2834  They're women with issues, pretending to be men without issues. There is only 1 kind of man, and they're ALL born male.
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  1119.  @I_Eat_Road  You 1st
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  1120.  @noritochip_97  There are no trans humans. There are only males and females. Cope Harder
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  1121. Don’t expect anyone to accept what you're not, when you can’t accept what you are
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  1122. There is only 1 kind of woman, and they're ALL born female, making the use of 'Cis' entirely irrelevant and useless
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  1123.  @axelprice5791  In other news: lgbtq, blm, trans-activist sh00tz 9 and killz 5
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  1124.  @harperthegoblin  gaslight all you want, but it won't change the nature of the universe.
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  1125.  @harperthegoblin  If your identity is predicated upon the notion that all of society must deny objective reality and participate in your cosplay-- then sorry/not sorry, that identity is not valid. Do you have any data on the number of people who have surgically transitioned with bottom surgery, compared to those who have not? No, you do not, and those who have not-- are in NO way justified being granted access into women's private spaces.
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  1126.  @harperthegoblin  So, you don't have an answer. I know... You're just whinging away to attempt to justify subscribing to the trans-cult ideological narrative. You have no case. Women (ALL of them) are born female. Gender (there are 2 male and female) refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively-- which cross-culturally are long established. Too many conflate personality traits and temperament (neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) with gender. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then, they conflate gender and with s3xu@l preference. Then, they conflate males with females, men with women, science with science-fiction and pseudo-science, and fantasy with reality. A woman isn't a social construct and she isn't a costume that a man can put on or take off. Women (ALL of them) are born female, making the 'cis' distinction entirely irrelevant and useless. There's ZERO justification to grant those men access into women's private spaces.
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  1127. @YourRandomBAD Who are you trying to convince... LOL Open Letter in Support of Dr. Kenneth Zucker and the Need to Promote Robust Scientific Debate Sponsored by FAIR in Medicine May 5, 2023 We, the undersigned signatories, are expressing our support for Dr. Kenneth Zucker, an academically robust and unbiased editorial process at the Archives of Sexual Behavior, and uninterrupted publication of “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria: Parent Reports on 1655 Possible Cases” by Diaz and Bailey. We condemn and reject the censorious demands being directed at Springer Nature, the company that publishes Archives of Sexual Behavior, that this paper be retracted, and that the editor of the journal, Dr. Zucker, be sanctioned for allowing the paper’s publication. The appropriate action is to have an open debate about the paper—not to silence those whose views one finds disagreeable. Currently as many as one in 10–20 youth report gender dysphoria. The paper by Diaz and Bailey adds to the growing body of knowledge about the various factors contributing to the rapid rise of adolescent-onset gender dysphoria–a phenomenon that was exceedingly rare in the past. Specifically, the paper engages with parental reports of the cases of “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria,” or ROGD. The ROGD hypothesis posits that in some cases, gender dysphoria in adolescence may be mediated by social factors. The potential viability of the ROGD hypothesis has been endorsed not only by the parents, as described by Diaz and Bailey, but also by the clinicians working with this patient population, and the affected patients themselves. If it proves to be correct, then the treatment approaches to this novel population of adolescents may need to be different, including the possibility that such cases may benefit from less invasive interventions that do not carry the irreversible effects of hormonal and surgical interventions known as “gender-affirming care.” The concern that the currently-presenting gender dysphoric youth are different from the originally-studied cases, and that they may be better helped by psychotherapy, has also been expressed by the originators of the “Dutch” protocol for gender-transitioning minors. We are particularly disappointed that among the signatories demanding that the research be retracted is the current President of WPATH. WPATH recently acknowledged the role of social influence as a possible contributing factor to gender dysphoria in adolescents, saying: “For a select subgroup of young people, susceptibility to social influence impacting gender may be an important differential to consider.” (Coleman et al., 2022, p. 45) Signing a demand to retract one of the very few papers examining the possible influence of social factors is inconsistent with WPATH’s own statements. We are aware of the allegation that a lack of an Institutional Review Board approval of this publication warrants a retraction. However, this is demonstrably false. Springer’s policies explicitly allow the Editor-in-Chief the discretion to accept a publication that has not sought IRB approval. The first author of this study was not affiliated with a university and did not need to seek IRB approval. Further, we are aware that the activists are alleging that the paper’s methodology was biased by only relying on parental reports. However, parental reports are commonly used to gather information about children and adolescents. A highly influential paper in the field that is often cited to support social transition for youth also relied on parental reports. However, in this case the methodology was not criticized. The difference appears to be that in this example, the parents supported their children’s gender transition, whereas in the Diaz and Bailey paper, the parents were concerned with the risks of inappropriate medicalization of their children. Unfortunately, this is not the first time journals and researchers who dare explore the subject of ROGD have been targeted for cancellation. What is currently happening to the Diaz and Bailey paper bears a marked resemblance to the prior attempt to silence the original “ROGD” paper by Lisa Littman, MD. Under tremendous pressure from critics, PLOS ONE subjected the paper to a second round of peer review post-publication. The paper withstood this unprecedented scrutiny, with its results unchanged. To quote Jeffrey S. Flier, MD, the 21st Dean of Harvard Medical School, who wrote eloquently about the the attempts to silence research into ROGD, “Many papers face questions after they have been published, which is well and proper: the systematic assessment and scrutiny of published work is a core method by which the scientific community corrects errors, and builds upon imperfect preliminary observations…But that is not what has happened…. [the] critics have not performed any systematic analysis of her findings, but seem principally motivated by ideological opposition to [the] conclusions. We fear that just like in the case of the original ROGD paper, the demands for retraction and sanctioning of Dr. Zucker, the Editor-in-Chief are principally motivated by the ideological opposition to Diaz and Bailey’s conclusion. Because of Dr. Zucker’s unique experience in the field and his role as the Editor-in-Chief, the journal, Archives of Sexual Behavior, has become a formidable force in the growing debate about how to best care for the rapidly growing numbers of gender-diverse youth. Dr. Zucker has demonstrated neutrality by routinely publishing articles on both sides of this contentious issue. While the paper by Diaz and Bailey–like all research–has limitations, it is vital to continue to study the ROGD hypothesis. Ongoing attempts to silence any research into the explosion of teens who are now identifying as transgender only stands to hurt the very patients the activists are claiming to help–young gender nonconforming people. We, the undersigned signatories, ask that Springer Nature, the company that publishes Archives of Sexual Behavior, takes a nuanced view of this situation, examines the context in which these complaints have been leveled, and chooses to uphold the principles and practice of scientific discussion, debate, and freedom of expression by rejecting calls to retract the paper “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria: Parent Reports on 1655 Possible Cases” by Diaz and Bailey and refusing to sanction Dr. Kenneth Zucker for his decision to publish the paper.
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  1128. @YourRandomBAD You believe that huh? LOL If You think women's only spaces and organizations are segregated as such, based on subjective gender identity claims vs biology, then you're not too bright and you're letting your misogynist flag fly high
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  1129. @YourRandomBAD Not one of those 73 studies you're referring to prove a man can become a woman. Until they do, all of your arguments are just you blowing bubbles, whining and amount to nothing more than hot air. Dudes have no business infiltrating women's only spaces and organizations, regardless of psych issues, their beliefs, anxiety, or claims about their gender identity. Your strawman arguments, sophistry, cult terminology and gaslighting are rejected as invalid
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  1130. @YourRandomBAD You keep getting that wrong. Gender Roles are Social Constructs referring to the roles of males and females in society. Gender/Sex is biological (There are only 2 male/female... That's it), and that state is fixed and permanent among ALL mammalian species. Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex (There are only 2-- male/female... That's it) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles (without exception refer to the roles of males and females in society) as though they're synonymous and they are not. Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. DEFINITIONS: Cf. “Sex”. Both terms (“Gender” and “Sex”) originate from Latin words: “Genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;) Now, you know better
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  1131.  @Sentient-potato  If you have a chromosome set with a Y you're a guy. In humans, the female is the homogametic sex, with a pair of X chromosomes, and the male is heterogametic, with an X and a Y chromosome. Now you know better
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  1132.  @dhat1755  Have at it... Their arguments just don't withstand the scrutiny because life is based in reality, and the trans imagination just doesn't override people's capacity for discernment
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  1133. Being yourself, doesn't require surgical intervention. Women, ALL of them-- are born female and all men are born male. There are exactly ZERO exceptions. DNA dictates the production of objective biological differences between males and females. 100% of the population is either male or female, even intersex people. If they have a Y chromosome, they are heterogametic and male. If not, they are homogametic and female. But you knew that because you've actually educated yourself on these conditions, right? Intersex??? Really??? That's a physiological genetic condition, not a psych condition. Intersex is a birth defect, and the exceptions to the rule don't invalidate the rule-- they prove the rule by being the exceptions. Personality traits and temperament (Neither of which is gender exclusive -- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), aren't synonymous with gender or gender roles. There is no internal feeling that is exclusive to men or women (or boys/girls), what makes anyone a man or a woman is being either male or female and reaching adulthood. Their sex and stage of physical maturity makes them men or women, not some "feeling" they have. Believing there is some "essence" specific to males or female as far as feelings go, that can manifest "in the wrong body", is akin to a religious belief, having faith in something that is impossible to prove or disprove. The thing is though, that no one on the "trans" side can actually even explain what this "essence" is, they can't even explain it to themselves yet have convinced themselves that the feeling they have means they "are in the wrong body" - without realizing that their discomfort simply stems from not realizing that they view conforming to sexist stereotypes as legitimate measures of manhood or womanhood. That is why every explanation given of WHY a male "can't be a man, but is instead woman" etc. relies upon listing stereotypical stuff, or, in some cases is completely abstract and refuses to actually provide any explanation of what they mean, simply stating they "know" that what they feel means what they say it does, even though they can't actually provide a definition of it. "It's hard to explain but I know I'm right" is an attitude one constantly comes up against - a religious faith in something they can't define. This idea that the terms "man" and "woman" carry all this baggage, sexist stereotypes, that people need to live up to or feel comfortable with is a complete fabrication coming from the "trans" side. You lot want a term to reflect aspects of your personality as well, you want to create more boxes to put people in, as you won't accept simply just being a man or a woman based on being born male or female (and reaching adulthood, obviously people are boys and girls before becoming men or women), but believe you need this "freedom of expression" to broadcast what sexist stereotypes you feel more comfortable with - thinking the world needs to adopt the sexist view you lot have (you fail to see just how much you have in common with Conservatives). Replacing objective definitions which are based in physical reality, with entirely subjective metaphysical claims, is not logical in any way, is not morally superior, and is demonstrably harmful, not least to female rights and protections, but also to practically anyone that buys into it as it warps people's perception of the underlying issues. It hinders people in their quest for individuation, creating this false narrative of them becoming more "authentic" when the total opposite is true, they believe they need validation from others in order to be happy etc. instead of being encouraged to find more inner strength and resilience with less reliance on how people see them. Demanding to be legally recognised as the opposite sex of what one is, is in no way shape or form more authentic than accepting the physical reality one is born into. To believe we as individuals can have 100% control over our identity in society, what we are seen as by others, in interaction with, and in relation to, society/the world/physical existence is a fool's errand, it is a delusional understanding of reality and existence.
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  1134. @YourRandomBAD Better still-- Answer in good faith with integrity, and make your case stand against the scrutiny
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  1135. @YourRandomBAD So, that's a 'No'-- you have no substantive answer to my questions. Got it. I recommend in the future, being relevant. You say harass... I say honestly asking questions-- only to discover and expose as intellectually vacant, the incoherent, ideological, cult claims and narratives, of extreme, radical ideologues who's argument's can't withstand the scrutiny. The inability or willingness to answer honestly, in good faith-- doesn't substantiate or validate your claims and nothing that proves anything I've ever written as incorrect or inaccurate in any way whatsoever. Do Better. You fail to persuade
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  1136. @YourRandomBAD You have nothing but projection of your own triggered harassment, in response to questions exposing your radical agenda as ludicrous nonsense. You fail to persuade. Congratulations
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  1137. @YourRandomBAD The thing is, It is not me who's seeking affirmation, or acceptance from the majority to achieve a sense of validation-- that would be you and yours, so the burden to make your case compelling is on you-- Not me, and YOU fail to persuade that your misogyny should be accepted by anyone.
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  1138. @YourRandomBAD The thing is, It's you who are expecting the world and everyone in it to operate as though you're owed something. That's wrong! It is for you to make your case a compelling one, if you expect the participation and cooperation of others, and so far you fail to persuade. Cope Harder Science has already established that All men are born male, all women are born female and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference, or costume, and that state is fixed and permanent as it is with every other mammalian species, genius.
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  1139. @YourRandomBAD Uh huh... It appears that You're a creepy dude trying unsuccessfully, to justify infringing on women's rights. Feel free to dress however you like, just know that it doesn't create an obligation for anyone to pretend that you're not a male in a dress
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  1140. @YourRandomBAD Yawn... Neither Your acceptance, acknowledgement, nor endorsements are required. You're just not that relevant. No need to guess. I don't have difficulty with my perception and ability to discern the fact that males and females differ and recognize that a dude in a dress is a dude in a dress, not a woman/female. Your confusion is evident, and your arguments prove nothing other than your radical agenda is intellectually vacant and your screeching doesn't make it valid. Your opinion is useless
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  1141. @YourRandomBAD You're a creepy dude who's failed to prove anything I've ever written is incorrect or in any way inaccurate. That is a fact. Your whining is boring and your credibility is zero. That's on You
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  1142. @YourRandomBAD I've noticed that those insisting on unjustified self-entitled claims to a right to infiltrate women's only spaces, which are segregated based on biology and organizations segregated based on biology- not a subjective gender identity claim, have not justified a valid reason to expect that any such entitlement should be honored, much less taken be taken seriously and considered valid. The fact is, segregation based on sex is necessary, regardless of the insistence that it isn't-- and no one has made a reasonable case as to why they aren't. I don't care if you prefer to indulge in non-traditional fashion choices, and be as effeminate as you please, or have non-traditional sexual preferences.... But I defend your right and affirm that you still be entitled to use the men's facilities and try out for men's sports teams, etc.-- Go For It, You shouldn't be discriminated against to the extent that you are prevented from being able to use the men's only spaces, regardless of your personality, or non-traditional fashion sense, or sexual preferences. They keep saying gender identities are valid-- BUT, Valid as what?, and to whom are they allegedly valid?-- are the questions
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  1143. @YourRandomBAD The same inane comments you make, get the same replies- in the name of consistency. You've failed to prove anything I've written is inaccurate or incorrect in anyway whatsoever. LOL
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  1144. @YourRandomBAD The trans clown act is indeed a clown act. Dudes who chop off their junk, pretending they're girls are just dudes who've chopped off their junk. Cope or not... It's true and nothing you say will change that
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  1145. @YourRandomBAD And then, you woke up... You're just full of s~*t, aren't you, and know so much that just isn't so. Amazing Gender Roles are Social Constructs referring to the roles of males and females in society. Gender/Sex is biological (There are only 2 male/female... That's it), and that state is fixed and permanent among ALL mammalian species. Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex (There are only 2-- male/female... That's it) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles (without exception refer to the roles of males and females in society) as though they're synonymous and they are not. Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders. DEFINITIONS: Cf. “Sex”. Both terms (“Gender” and “Sex”) originate from Latin words: “Genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;) Try to see if you can get an adult to help explain it to you, so you don't F it up again
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  1146. @YourRandomBAD Remaining irrelevant and incorrect, your narratives are invalid
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