Comments by "Gorilla Disco" (@gorilladisco9108) on "VisualEconomik EN"
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You missed the details and come to the wrong conclusion.
India didn't work because theirs was democratic socialism (emphasis on s-o-c-i-a-l-i-s-m). Then BJP started to erode Congress political monopoly, so they tried something unthinkable before, to deregulate the economy, and it works. And BJP does not seem to want to go back to the old day of socialism quagmire.
China under Mao didn't work either because theirs was totalitarian socialism. Then in 1980s Deng decided gave capitalism a try, and it works, or it worked, until they started to inch back to socialism under Xi Jin Ping. And now we can see their economy is starting to stall (compared to 7% to 10% growth under Deng, Jiang, and Hu, it's a paltry 3% to 5% under Xi, and that before the covid).
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Sui dynasty didn't cause the stagnation in science and technology in China.
Sui dynasty was the start of China healing after the several centuries of chaos following the end of the Han dynasty. They were taken over by Tang dynasty shortly after.
The Sui reigned just three decades, and a third of that was in another chaos before Tang took over. As short lived as they were, one of the celebrated innovation during Sui dynasty was the building of Grand Canal that increased domestic trade among China's cities (it was build to pile resources in preparation to invade Korea, but well ...).
And also, why would science had to be requirement for government officials? Their job is to administer the country resources. So the ability to read and write were the only requirement considering the level of education during that time. Some of them might dabbled in science in their leisure times, but science was not a requirement for their post.
For comparison, Europe also didn't require science for government official posts. Their requirement was limited to ... ability to read the Bible (instead of Confucian). Scientists like Newton, Kelvin, Faraday, etc. were given subsidies to enable them to conduct experiments, but they didn't have any power in government.
What make the difference between China and Europe was isolationism and because of it, China missed the crucial event that enabled Europe to catch up and finally leave China in dust : The Enlightenment.
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Let's look at history. When Lenin established his socialist regime, Russian (Soviet Union) economy shot up. Why? Because the Russian economy was a total disaster at the time. The economic progress was so big that the socialism minded intellectuals in the west believed Soviet Union would overtook USA within 20 years. The joke is, after 10 years, the prediction was revised to within 30 years. Another 10 years, and it became within 40 years. And at the beginning of Brezhnev reign, the economy started to stall, until it crashed and burned under Gorbachev.
Will socialism works? Barely. And at a huge cost, both in freedom and economic cost. And after a period of time, it will stagnates and starts the downhill course.
As comparison, we can learn the West Germany and Japan economic miracle after World War 2. The economy was in the same disaster level as Soviet Union, if not worse. But they implemented capitalism shortly after the Allied ended their occupation. Within 20 years, they became 3rd and 4th largest economy in the world (with the 2nd a.k.a. Britain was in decline). That is, if we account to their population sizes, they may as well as richer than USA at that time. How about Soviet Union? What Soviet Union, is the answer.
Bolivia economy grew very fast. Well, of course. Oil money aside, their economy was a disaster back then (see the similarity with Russian economy of early 20th century). But socialism can only work that much. And if they cling on socialism for several decades, their economy will back to another phase of disaster.
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