Comments by "Manifest" (@manifest2203) on "The way it ALL ENDS: the five endgames that all women face" video.
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@alexmuenster2102 at this point it should be clear that most women don’t care what most men want. Most men bring nothing but more work, s3xual deg*eneracy (other women drama, outside children drama, STDs and some even have secret second families), laziness and addiction problems (all addictions affect men much more than women- p*orn, video games, sports, social media, gambling, alcoholism, substance abuze, golfing and so much more), and not to mention abuze and actual vio*lence. It is always some issue or the other with most men. Every woman is more likely to d*ie at the hands of the man she is with rather than a stranger. The number one cause of death of pregnant women is murder at the hands of the father of her child. It is not even medical complications as one might expect. Some men are even family anni*hilators. Psychopathy and narcissism are mental disorders predominantly found in men.
So now, we have established that most men aren’t w*orth much and are a liability. Now let’s talk about the high value men. The competition for these men will be high and only few women will make it. And even for those women who do make it, it is barely worth it because these men are c*ontrolling. Freedom is worth more than anything. That is what women should aim for. Women should save up for a decade and have one or max two children if they want in their early 30s, with or without marriage. Every woman should only have the number of children she can support. This mitigates the risk that fathers pose and their abandoning the child wouldn’t affect the women and children much. But even if the woman can support more kids, having lesser kids increases the quality of life of the mother and also her children. And more women should consider sperm banks, shop for the best genes and elect to have daughters. More women in society is good for society and is especially useful for the mothers.
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@stevenscott2136 you are talking like an individual who doesn’t understand war and famine. Not having resources will cause them. WW2 k*illed 45 million men. The Chinese famine (around 1960s) caused the death of 30 million people. The world population is at its peak right now (the highest number it has ever been). Yes, the US, European countries, Asian countries (China, Japan, Korea, India, Phillipines) are doing well but there is still poverty in many of these countries. And there is so much of it in Middle East, Africa, S America, Mexico (I read that 40% population experience it). If you want to jeopardise a good life by having more babies which cannot be provided for, go ahead. Quality of life matters above all else. This is why low value males are so stupid and no one cares about low value males. Listening to males talk is a sure shot way of losing respect for low value males.
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@grantwithers so what if more men lose interest in women? Nothing will happen. If you look at history, most societies worked with fewer men anyway. Most men are already inebriated, underperforming zombies anyway. Most of the addictions affect men much more than women: p*orn, video games, sports, social media, gambling, substance abuze, alcoholism and so much more. The women who deal with these males waste years on them. It is women who have the mentality of the “good woman” tag who get burned the most. If these men aren’t s3xually degen*erate, they are vio^lent or abuzive. It is always something or the other with these men. Whereas most women have full time jobs and also support dependents too (children, even old people are supported by women). Not having a man improves the quality of life for most women. If a man doesn’t want women who have enjoyed her s3xuality, he can stay single. It is hypocritical to be perpetually th*irsty and lust*ing for women all the time and then be jealous of women for living that lifestyle. No one is forcing any man to do anything. Men who actually matter don’t care about that anyway. Recently Logan Paul was dragged for marrying a woman with a high body count. He came back and said that he was lucky to lock her down and that he has seen it all in terms of online bu^llying and tr*olling and doesn’t care. Now if that is not masculine, I don’t know what is.
I didn’t say most women don’t have children. Women choose to have fewer children now. If you look at birth rates, in most of the countries it is below replacement level (which should be 2.1). So most women are having only one or two kids. And child free by choice women numbers is increasing year on year. And women who have kids don’t necessarily want a man.
I mentioned Korea because it is in the East. They may follow the West in some aspects but their cultures are very unique in their own way. China for example, has 35 million more men than women because they k*I’ll off their girl children. It is estimated that about 30% to half the men in China can never get married and have children even if they want to. When it comes to gender dynamics and birth rates, it is not like only West has changed. Women’s movements exist everywhere in the world, not just in the West and the idea of walking away from marriage is not exclusive to men. I encourage more men to try it instead of whining. Women have already been doing it, without this much whining.
So what if women are single and have wine and have cats? Not being the bang maid of any man and be his mommy to do caregiving for him increases longevity of women. Caregiving role is what sucks the life force out of women. It ages women faster and makes them look older on top of reducing their lifespan whereas being with a woman increases the lifespan of unworthy men. Women should only take care of their kids. Women shouldn’t have to take care of other adults. But marriage makes women take care of the man as if he is her child too. Most marriages are endless work most of which is caused by the man, having to deal with the constant whining from the man, having to deal with his deg*neracy, vio*lence and abuze. It prevents woemn from raising good children. That is why most women who enter marriages leave them. About 50% marriages end in divorce and women file 70-80% of the time. If not for their children, even more women will file for divorce.
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@grantwithers and yes, most men want younger women but what most men want doesnt matter. It never did. Only the top men matter because they are the ones who regulate society and are shakers and movers of the world. Needless to say they are the ones who have the money too.
And nope, women don’t listen to what society tells them at all. This brainwashing of women has been going on for millennia, but society has still been unsuccessful in controlling women. Countries are now literally crying asking women to have more children (look at China, Japan, European countries and their campaigns). The CCP of China had previously launched a campaign calling women who don’t want marriage as Sheng nu (leftover woman) to shame women into getting married and having more children. But it is ridiculous because like i mentioned before, even if all the women get married, it will still be the men who are left over 🤣
Women don’t have herd mentality like men do. All it takes to control men is a few tools for inebriation. Men will easily destroy their families, and be far more loyal to a sports team, their mistress, OF girls, any of their other addictions and whatnot over their own children. In fact, they will whine about having to support their children through child support whilst doing zero parenting. Women will always act only in their self interest and only in the self interest of their children. Women are the true protectors and providers in society.
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@maxdudomite dude men are the ones who don’t understand accountability. Men play accountability gymnastics where nothing is ever his fault. He is not going well because he is a victim but should be allowed to lead, he is not studying well because system is bad, he is committing crimes because he is helpless, he is a sh*tty father and husband because of some other reason, his mental health is poor because <insert weird reason>, he doesn’t attract women because it is women’s fault, he abandons his child because she chose poorly. So many men believe that blaming women is being accountable for themselves 🤣 They genuinely cry about accountability systems set by other men- all laws, including divorce laws are set up by men 🤦♀️
Even if you ignore everything, consider this: so many men say men should be allowed to lead in the relationships. But how do leaders attract followers in the real world? By blaming everything on the followers, calling them sh*tty people and then placing all accountability for their own mistakes on the followers? Male logic is non existent 🤣 All this won’t fly. That is why women drop the dead weight men who do nothing bug whine and are burdens. Like I said, no one lets a self proclaimed victim who doesn’t understand accountability to lead. The victimhood of men is nothing but a lack of accountability. Most men cannot make rational choices to save their lives 🤦♀️
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@callak_9974 I don’t understand why you men simply live in denial all the time. No matter how much real world teaches you things, you consistently fail to learn. Yes the world is superficial right now, because men and women don’t want to invest too much time in relationships. Relationships are a lot of work and no one wants to put that much effort. For women especially, women would rather chase their own financial security because money will come directly to their hands rather than having to depend on a husband.
How is it ok to say 100% women are looking for the top 10% men? Last I checked, marriage and relationship happens to men across all socio economic levels. Yes, women “prefer” men who are at the top levels but women absolutely compromise and marry men in all level because it is not realistic to pursue only the top percentage of men. If women were only chasing the top percentage of men, more women will be ultra feminine and be everything that those types of men want. But women also aggressively pursue all types of careers, achieve so much and build a life for themselves. They get with men on similar levels and offer a lot of value to those men. A man whose spouse earns a good amount of money through her hard work will live an even more elevated lifestyle than a man whose wife doesn’t contribute financially at all.
And men, especially men who have achieved things definitely look at the class, profession of the woman they get with. Only low value men who don’t have anything don’t think about it. What the woman does, her social class dictates the kind of lifestyle that they will live as a couple. The idea of a waitress marrying a millionaire is very, very rare. Most people marry within their class. If a woman worked in McDonalds, chances are high that she will marry a guy who works there too. If a woman levels up, she will meet many men in that level and she will have access to those men which she would not have had, had she not leveled up.
Yes, female beauty absolutely has value, just like male beauty. Physical attraction matters to both genders. Most women don’t marry men they aren’t attracted to either. Beauty standards exist for men too. But most men who are worth anything don’t choose women based on looks alone. They do make good husbands and fathers, but they won’t just level up any woman just like that based on looks. Men who say they don’t care about anything more than looks are the same men who will later regret it because they do not understand how relationships work at all. This is just a delusional Manosphere talking point but it has no basis in reality.
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@S62r actually countries which have high success rate of arranged marriages, have loads of other problems. For example China and India have high success for arranged marriages. But together these 2 countries have 35 million more m3n than wom3n because they k1ll off their girl children. These countries are so patriarchal and are very abusiv3 towards wom3n on all levels. It’s still like wom3n cannot leav3 bad marriages. All these countries have high rates of DV and crim3s against wom3n. Those are some of the reasons for high success of arranged marriages. Another place where arranged marriages are successful is 1slam1c countries. The main reason it works is because of strict r3ligious constraints which s3verely punish wom3n with bru1tal punishments. Yes, to some extent wom3n have power if they are from well to do families. But for most, it is not so and even in rich families survival is tough.
And note that in China and India, it is the parents themselves who are cru3l to their girl children by k1lling them, not giving them inheritance. IMO not enough is spoken about parental 3xplotation, denial of opportunities by parents (not “allowing” daughters to study, not allowing them to move to a different location of studies or jobs, and so much more), treating h3r like a free maid by the parents and siblings and so much more.
M3n across societies aren’t taught to be good husbands, sons and fathers, but wom3n are expected to should all the responsibilities and often made to excuse the deg3nerate behaviour of others (parents, siblings, in laws, husbands). And then wom3n are made to put up with a lot of BS for the sake of their children.
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