Comments by "Spring Bloom" (@springbloom5940) on "Fauci Lowers U.S. Death Toll Projection to 60,000 | NBC Nightly News" video.
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Jim Alley
That you felt compelled to respond in such a way, evidences your own lack of integrity and or morality. Chloroquine derivatives are currently the only standard treatment for a lethal plague sweeping the planet and the mainsteam media, at large, have been on a concerted campaign to smear and discredit it, for political expediency. People will die, because they refuse the treatment, because their trusted news sources have told them repeatedly, that its "snake oil", "false hope", "poison" and "deadly misinformation by the the President". If you truly find that 'yawn' worthy, Id recommend a CT scan to check for a focal brain injury, causing sociopathic behavioral traits.
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@stephaniep1761
Italy's problems are indeed largely cultural, but they also made critical mistakes that can be fairly characterized as overreaction; which compromised an inadequate medical infrastructure. At the outset, they preemptively hospitalized simple exposure cases and preemptively ICU'd patients presenting with symptoms. This maxed out their critical care capacity in just a few days, while generating a mass exposure event, for everyone in the heathlcare pipeline; healthcare workers, vulnerable non-COVID patients, etc. When actual critical cases began emerging, they had already overtaxed their resources and it avalanched. Then, they overreacted again, by imposing an indiscriminate quarantine, simply locking down everyone in close quarters, multigenerational households, with no effort to segregate high-risk and critically exposed individuals. That created a second mass exposure event.
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@stephaniep1761
Yes, it is high. However, its coming down, almost daily. Some projections, though more hopeful in nature, than likely, have it potentially settling at a lower mortality rate, than 'common' flu. The chaos and apparently large death toll, has been primarily driven by its very high virulence. Even at the exact same severity as flu, it can still be devasting, if 5x as many people get it (thats not a real figure, just an illustrative example)
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@isacnewton1290
Wrong, on so many accounts. First, the reason hospitals are 'overwhelmed' is because they are employing single point casualty collection, as a centralized care and containment strategy; all COVID patients are going to the same hospital, instead of sending them to all the others, to contaminate them and expose everyone in their pipelines. Second, this is only occurring at a very small handful of 'hotspots', with the rest of the country being relatively clear. No, there is no 'big difference', because contrary to the popular propaganda, no one is turned away from an American hospital, for a medical necessity... its the law. Third, we do not 'lack respiratory apparatus'. If you actually pay attention to the facts, instead of the propaganda, you will know that universally, across the country, everyone reports that no one has died, due to lack of resources; everyone who could be saved, has been. There have been no shortages of facilities, ventilators, or respirators. Respirators are in short supply and cannot be used at the accustomed rate(~1 per hour of exposure), but everyone who has needed one, has had one. Fourth, no, we are not as overwhelmed as Italian hospitals have been; see the first point.
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@isacnewton1290
No, I did not say that. I said they made critical mistakes, which is objectively true. Others learned from those mistakes and others did not. The real test is going to be if Italy learned from those mistakes. Interestingly the word 'quarantine' comes from the Pestilence, when Venice locked down ships and citizens to combat the bubonic plague. While history has remembered this favorably, the reality is that such practices almost certainly exacerbated the severity and longevity of the Pestilence, as while the intuition was correct, they had a poor understanding of the transmission vectors. In many instances, particularly in Britain, the quarantine was the opposite of what they needed to do and ended up wiping out entire households and even villages, because the majority of cases, were from primary exposure to fleas rather than secondarily, by infected Humans.
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