Comments by "Spring Bloom" (@springbloom5940) on "Trump 'doesn't understand what NATO is,' says former Trump advisor John Bolton | DW News" video.
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@doughooper9918
NATO is irrelevant. It was set up to prevent another intra-European war. More specifically to keep France, Germany and Britain from destroying the planet, fighting over some petty disagreement. The first principle was that WWII happened because primarily, Britain and the US didn't intervene immediately. The premise being that if all the eventually engaged countries had acted immediately to challenge Germany, it would've stopped at Czechoslovakia. But that was always a false premise, because Britain and the US were both essentially disarmed after WWI and likely would've been decisively defeated, with nothing left to stop Germany from domination of Europe.
France didn't capitulate because they couldn't fight, but because they didnt want to fight. NATO doesn't change that. Article 5 is not automatic and requires a vote, which is still available without NATO or Article 5. As seen with Iraq(twice) and Afghanistan, where all NATO members joined along with just as many other nations (note the irony that Ukraine participated in the 2003 'coalition of the willing' to invade Iraq). The chief value of NATO has been arms and supply compatibility standards, which several countries have drifted away from since the turn of the Century. There is nothing to stop or will stop cross training between members or a defense coalition, without NATO. All it serves as anymore, is a war council to cause trouble. Its a gang
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@daydays12
You have exactly zero clues what you're talking about. That 'old equipment' is the strategic stockpile. Its maintained and kept in reserve for when theres an actual, for real, bona fide war with someone who can fight back and you start losing all your shiny, new, expensive stuff that there wasn't enough of to begin with. I mean, how can anyone possibly not understand this, in this very context?
The equipment is a miniscule fraction of what the US has been providing in capability and infrastructure that no one else on the planet possesses. Chinese and Russian combined capability are the only thing that comes close and the remainder of NATO's combined capability is about a single digit percentage of that. Realtime space and high altitude ISR/RSTA assets, high angle imagery, a dedicated analysis corps just for Ukraine, SIGINT, IMINT, HUMINT, BDA, EW, secure comms, early warning, logistics and transport, medical support, Humanitarian support, etc. We have been running our own full-time, full-scale intelligence and logistical war, as if we were the ones fighting. $350B is a lowball figure for just that, let alone the equipment.
As for trying to rationalize it as 'supporting American industry', the gvt has a word for doing that with your own business or finances and I sincerely recommend against trying it. But that aside, you are literally justifying the most devastating war since WWII, as a 'jobs creator'. That is irredeemably immoral and unethical as it gets.
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