Comments by "Spring Bloom" (@springbloom5940) on "Active Self Protection"
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+SeerTrulth
And the 20% who do intend to use their weapon, are responsible for 80% of the murders. But whats more, is when a gun is pointed at you, it really doesnt matter if intent exists, or not, because theyre already violating at least one, probably multiple safety rules and the odds of getting shot unintentionally are practically the same as getting shot intentionally. If someone points a gun at someone else, theyve made the opening move, of a zero sum game. Assuming they just mean to scare you a little, assuming they all have the same intent, assuming they wont make a mistake that killing everyone will 'fix', assuming they will stick with the plan they came in with, assuming anything but that they intend to kill everyone, gets you and everyone with you, taken to the cooler for a bullet in the back of the head.
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+Say Soun
You say that, but thats really not how it works. The overwhelming majority of self defense cases, the victim either acts before the threat justifies it, or waits too long and has to play catchup. The fact is, when you actually find yourself in a shooting situation, youre more likely than not, going to be questioning your justification, up until youve lost the advantage. Then youll have turned a defensive shooting, into a fight. Ive had a couple experiences in my life, where if I had been armed, I have zero doubt that Id have fired. But the fact that Im here talking about it, is the proof that I didnt have to kill them. Knowing that, given it to do over again, Id still shoot. I think about that every time I carry. You have to have a inviolable line that you wont allow ANYONE to cross and thats not a simple or easy thing. Could you shoot your best friend, or your wife, or just someone you really like? Could you shoot a toddler, or a 12 year old? What about a pretty girl? If you cant, then you probably cant shoot a stranger, who 'might' hurt you. Not trying to be 'that chick', just saying its not that simple, no matter how resolved you are, or how much training you have.
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+AntiSocialMotorist
Also (Im not going to do the work of sourcing it, because its not contained in a single source)* there are more gun deaths per legally possessed firearm, in UK than there are in the US. UK has a gun problem.
*If you want to learn more, its going to take some research and cross referrence, because UK obfuscates gun crimes, in their national crime statistics. For example, a 'gun death' is only directly reported as such, when a gun is recovered, or an ME officially rules a death by gunshot(this is not as straightforward as you might think) - thus a DB with cranial GSW, is typically recorded as 'undetermined cause', until the case is 'solved'(conviction obtained, or an identified suspect is 'dead or fled'). UK is generally believed in LE academic circles to have a substantially higher 'gun crime' rate, than is openly reported. They also minimalize violent crimes - ex. home invasion recorded as 'trespass', strongarm robbery recorded as 'theft', attempted rape/attempted murder recorded as 'assault', etc.
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+Joe James
Fumble for my multitool.
A folding knife, as he noted, is difficult to make ready, under stress. A multitool is a large chunk of metal, that makes a fairly good impact weapon and a rake. You can rip flesh pretty effectively with the body of the tool and a good shot to a wrist or an elbow, is pretty effective, as well. I actually carry an old 1980s folding knife, with a 4- 1/4" inch blade and a large, very well contoured body, that fits my hand when closed and sticks about 3/4" out of the bottom of my fist, with a big, solid steel point. I guarantee, anyone getting that hammered into their wrist, will let go - I could probably compromise a skull with it. Of course, if youre the sort that lets yourself get snatched from behind, probably nothing you carry will be much help to you, anyway.
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+Gary Rae
What facts? You havent offered any facts. Its really simple - divide the number of firearm deaths, by the number of firearms, for both countries and see who has the 'gun problem'. Furthermore, unlike UK, US openly reports ALL firearm related events, as such; so when we break down those numbers, we get ~62% suicides, ~22% justified acts and ~3% accidents and criminal acts. Again, unlike UK, we can consider these statistics to be legitimate, because unlike UK, US has nothing to hide.
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+MrMongoose221
Right. I wasnt neccessarily charging you with openly asserting superiority, but as you yourself noted, it came off as though you were criticizing American gun laws. Hiwever, I was making a blanmet statement, in regards to those such as 'Gary', who in fact do openly assert moral and cultural superiority and do try to tell Americans how to govern themselves - there is to this day, a deep objection to Europeans, particlarly English, telling Americans how to govern their own country, you Know? As for the first section, it stands. 'gun crime' is a strawman, as is the arbitrary distinction of 'advanced nations', that is often bandied about as a deceitful qualifier. Of course availability of guns increases gun crime, however availability of guns does NOT increase violent crime, nor does unavailability of guns decrease violent crime; to the contrary, according to most worldwide statistics.
Furthermore, as an experienced, professional gunhandler, Ill tell you frankly, that I am deathly afraid of blades, but not so much guns, because a gun can only hurt you, from one discrete angle... unlike blades. The fact is that the overwhelming majority of gunshots are administered at close contact, against a suplicant victim. The circumstances of such acts, makes the choice of weapon redundant. Ill also add that ~85% of gunshot victims make full recovery, with no lasting physical effects, while poisoning, immolation and particularly beatings, commonly leave the victims with chronic, dibilitating injury.
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Assumptions that a 'bag guy' is incompetent/stupid/cowardly, will get you D-E-A-D. Anyone who tried grabbing my longarm like that, would not live to regret it. The very worst thing you can do is to grab a longarm, anywhere near the muzzle, because your hand is a fulcrum and an anchor; their simply pulling the butt rearward, or taking a step back, or turning toward you, will swing the muzzle directly into your COM, with far more leverage than your hand can overcome. pressing a hand against the outside of the receiver, only makes it easier, because youre assisting their leverage. If you HAVE to attempt a disarm, DO NOT GRAB a longarm further forward, than mid barrel and preferrably do not lock a hand onto it anywhere. The most practical outcome to hope for, is to break their firing grip, because if they know what theyre doing(and I ALWAYS assume an opponent to be at least my equal), allowing them to maintain a grip on the butt, allows them to correct the problem(you). Youre not trying to take it for yourself, youre trying remove it from the equation to level the field; if youre not trying to possess it, you should not be latched onto it.
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Courage, definitely! However, it overrided his sense and he acted impulsively. It appears he closed in an attempt to directly engage with his pistol (that is, it seems he was aware of how outgunned he was when he engaged), when he might have been effective in fixing the target, with suppression from the defilade of cars. Certainly not Monday morning quarterbacking, but its sometimes more productive to miss a lot and keep the target busy so bystanders can escape the box. Firing long, down the street, presented a hazard to bystanders, but I think the indiscriminate fire from the perpetrators conclusively outweighed it.
I think the Dallas BLM march shooting would be a helpful topic. There is a lot to learn from that incident. I understand though, if its too close to home and too recent.
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