Comments by "Yulus Leonard" (@yulusleonard985) on "Soviet Infantry Small Arms Advantage Late in WW2? TIK Q&A" video.

They are doing great with such limitation. Lack of medicine, lack of medic are their main issue and they eventually win just because they are persistent.
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From the operator view point, they use it as semi auto weapon. Stg main strengths is its the only 30 rounds semi auto gun.
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Probably user error, those guns goes to engineer/pioneer battalion. they are great at building bridges or blowing up stuff not for doing shootout.
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@KBKriechbaum This video explain smg means nothing. Every other country will suffer more when put in their position.
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Doesn't matter. Soviet still have MG disadvantage even in late war. All the Germans need to do is to protect their MG.
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They fuck with logistic. SVT or Mossin, each infantrymen only have 40 rounds. Those soldier will fight more effective with Mossin than SVT.
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@ВячеславСкопюк Ok im convince you are just a troll.
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The most expensive part is the barel. Shorter barel>cheap, longer barel>expensive. So for the soviet its cheaper to produce ppsh 41 than any mosin nagant. For the germans its cheaper to produce luger than any mp 40.
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@ВячеславСкопюк Even in replica market VPO 512 are cheaper than anything. PPSH mechanism are too simple to be expensive. Also the fact even today longer barel will cost more, and not everyone can manufacture good barel. Any direct blowback are cheap to manufacture. All you have to do is to add spring for the action.
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They still only have 40 rounds for entire operation. They are far better of with mossin nagant.
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@VRichardsn ask their quarter master. All magazine capacity and rate of fire argument became useless when confronted with logistic limitation.
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@Gungeek Their standard ammo pouch hold 40 rounds and with report they run out of ammo fast they probably carry less than that.
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@VRichardsn SVT magazine eat more space than striper clip so if each soldier carry the same amount of ammo pouch(s) (each got one for defensive, two for offensive), if he choose to carry extra magazine he will carry even less ammo.
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@Gungeek The Germans made 3 sections ammo pouch which will hold 12 clips, the Russian only have 2 sections ammo pouch which can be either 8 clips, 2 magazines or 1 magazines 4 clips. Also Offensive load are different than Defensive load. You only perform offensive operation few weeks while spending the rest of the year doing rearguard duty, training, digging trenches. And if they do offensive operation they carry extra ammo belt that cumbersome and uncomfortable to the point they reverted to carrying one extra pouch.
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@VRichardsn There is a level when it start getting uncomfortable and it will hinder your movement. Specially when they replace leather pouches that everyone in the planet wears with universal canvas pouches. And they still have to carry a shovel on the same belt.
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@VRichardsn Standard combat load of ppsh is 3x30 rds mag or 2x50 rds box mag. They still limited by their logistic and everyone need to carry the same amount of bullets and grenade.
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@VRichardsn If they do that it will suffer malfunction.
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@VRichardsn if you put 35 rds on their 35 rds mag or. Put 71 on their 71 box mag it will missfeed. Their solution is to put 30 on their 35 and 50 in their 71.
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@VRichardsn my mistake but I wont call the stick magazine a box magazine.
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@VRichardsn BTW I have argument with another guy and he link me this if you interested https://www.battleorder.org/ussr-rifle-co-1944 Weapon loadout is at the bottom it just I have no idea why they put extra ammo inside med kit bag.
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SMG serve in engineer batalion or sidearms for tankers/truckers/machineguners. there is no need to build dedicated company of these when you can afford 1 mg for each platoon. By contrast the soviet fail to provide every platoon with MG.
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@ВячеславСкопюк If they do they don't have to do that mix smg, rifle combination.
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@ВячеславСкопюк They are ammo carrier for mg 34.
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@ВячеславСкопюк Lol half of them? there are only two ammo carrier in German platoon and you expect me to believe there are five in Soviet platoon? If that true then DP 27 is the worst mg ever since it need six men to run it properly. The reason why Germans have ammo carrier because they use belt fed MG and each ammo carrier carry 2 boxes on each hand. Same goes with Soviet Maxim squad, they only need two ammo carrier. Its crazy if you want to tell me that Heavy machine gun need three men to operate properly but light machinegun need six. Joking aside DP 27 have two ammo carrier carrying two drum magazine each and only limited on important units like Guards and those ammo carrier more likely to equip themselves with rifle because you no longer need smg when you have mg.
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@ВячеславСкопюк because German ammo carrier is not a combat unit. They are armed with smg not combat rifle. You can check Military History Visualized on German infantry tactic and if they do carry rifle it means they run out of smg. When did I said MG34 need whole squad to run properly? What I said is German infantry tactic relies on their MG 34 or MG 34 centric. Which is the reason why they can enjoy high kill ratio when compared to smg centric late war soviet infantry tactic, caused by their inability to equip every platoon with MG.
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@ВячеславСкопюк The only guy in combat platoon who have business carrying SMG are their ammo carrier who have their both hands busy helping the machine gunner. The other unit who carry SMG are the pioneer/engineer unit which not a combat unit. The Germans treat MP40 as pdw weapon so only non combat or rearguard carry those weapon. Like ammo carrier, engineer, altilery, officer, driver, police. If you see one carrying mp-40 they are not in rifle company, and the only time they use mp-40 in mass is at Stalingrad and more like improvisation rather than intended use. And if they have at least one dp 27 for every platoon they don't have to do that stupid half smg half rifle setup. Im pretty sure even Glantz wrote that they only have one mg per company, meaning its a company asset not a platoon asset like Germans.
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@ВячеславСкопюк You are the one who said theres smg in rifle unit. The only person who have bussines to carry smg are the ammo carrier or CO/NCO. They don't practice mixed rifle/smg since they have MG 34 at squad, platoon and company level. The soviet practice half rifle half mg exist to make up lack of MG in squad & platoon level.
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@ВячеславСкопюк Here from his own website: http://militaryhistoryvisualized.com/german-squad-tactics-world-war-2/ Initially all men besides the machine gunner and his assistant were equipped with the “Karabiner 98 kurz”, the German standard rifle, even the Squad leader, yet around 1941 he was issued a MP40 submachine gun with 6 magazines of 32 shots each. This only squad level btw, The Germans have MG34 at platoon and company level as well. At that level they have dedicated ammo carrier. He havent reach late war soviet army. He will eventually. Also his soviet squad tactic is the "ideal", they never reach one mg per squad in 1941, in 1945, even post war.
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@ВячеславСкопюк even within article you linked if you total the number of smg and rifle it will be about 50-50. If those mg per squad is a norm not rarity and they still suffer huge casualty then they are inept. The British/German/American perform better with only one MG. That diagram most likely the ideal figure not actual inventory and after some extra reading they actually put alot of "or" so even in a standard rifle platoon it might ended up half rifle half smg. This article said at the end of the war the ratio for LMG is 1:22.2, far from ideal 1:6 listed on your link, suggesting MG shortage is real and they never reach the ideal figure. https://soldat.pro/en/2018/06/29/rychnoi-pylemet-degtiareva-dp-27-patron-kalibr-762-mm/ And after the war they have to build that redundant SKS because they still suffer from MG shortage. ... I wonder what the point you ask SMG in German unit at the beginning? Even if you try to spin it that ammo carrier carry rifle, the fact they use SMG as PDW stand. And ammo carrier in organization list you linked actually only carry a pistol, although I believe he carry another weapon.
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@ВячеславСкопюк Im pretty sure if by the end of the war the ratio of 1 lmg for every 22 men they are bound to have smg-mosin 50-50 split. >"If the rifle company in July 1941 till States has 6 machine guns, a year later - 12 hand, at 1943 year - 1 easel and 18 machine guns, and in December 44 of the year - 2 easel and 12 hand." im pretty sure he referring to the ideal situation because he also put that at the end of war for 2398 men they have 106 lmg (hand) and 54 heavy (easel) that is 1:22.2 ratio for lmg and 1:44 for hmg. basically some platoon have two instead 6 and the unlucky ony have one. HMG every platoon have one HMG so this one they meet the target. he also talk about one mg/hmg for every 43 man in certain operation. >Fact? You said yourself that ammo carriers were armed with Kar 98. What's wrong with your memory, pal? You said that. Also what the relevance about this question btw?
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@ВячеславСкопюк >I'm pretty sure that your statement have zero logic Too bad im not commie so I like reality than any good plan without realization. If someone say something like the ratio each platoon have 6 lmg next year 12 lmg, next year 1 hmg and so on its more like the ideal not the realization. While his statement like in a regiment of 2398 people they have 108 lmg and 54 hmg is more like total average And his statement like in Crimean operation in 1944 one hmg/lmg per 43 men is the reality. So from those three informations I can pull a conclusion that the average HMG/LMG in each platoon is one or two. This happen for various reason like those lmg/hmg was prioritize to other units, the unit suffer casualty and in dire need of reinforcement/replacement or deployed way ahead its equipment. Or you can pull your ideal number that each platoon have 6 lmg and 1 HMG totally outgunning the Germans but still suffer disproportionate of casualty. That would be super embarrassing. >"All men besides machine gunner and his assistant" includes ammo carriers :D Assistant machine gunner is ammo carrier. >I'm waiting for you to admit that you wrote bullshit when you claimed that only ammo carriers were armed with SMG's :D Never said that. I said SMG in German army are pdw, carried by anyone have no bussines with combat.
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@ВячеславСкопюк >it's more like realization >And? why don't you grab calculator and start counting. 2398/108 I already done my calculator job, your turn. >nope. See, you aren't capable to realize that war is more than one rifle platoon fighting another Yes, it even more embarrassing if you have tanks, altilery, air superiority etc even economically supported by American and yet still suffer disproportionate casualty. My explanation is they only have 1-2 mg each platoon as written in the article so they always have hard time. >Looks like you have troubles with long-term memory I wonder what is this supposed to do with smg argument? You ask me irrelevant question I answer it on the fly and somehow you upset by this? I wait you to finish your calculator job about counting 2398 divided by 108. Its not too hard isn it?
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@ВячеславСкопюк >42 Yikes that lower than my 22.2, one lmg for every 42 men? >i don't see how number of combat vs non-combat troops in military unit connected to that. But I'm a generous guy and will continue to teach you history lessons. You see, USSR didn't had artillery or air superiority. It was quite opposite Im pretty sure we are talking one year after Kursk when air superiority switch and lack of truck hamper German altillery superiority. >but we already established that you know little about WW2, so your explanations are explanations of man little versed >It shows level of your knowledge about things you are trying to reason.Close to nonexistent Thats rich from someone who know nothing about casualty. >I wait for you to admit that your statement that not every soviet rifle platoon had a machine gun was false That depends from your counting skill of 2389/108.
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@ВячеславСкопюк "nope. That depends on your skill to to admit that you was wrong. Try it will be easy. You already admitted that soviet rifle platoons had at least one MG. Just write "I was wrong, I made it on the fly" I always said that from the beginning. I always right.
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@ВячеславСкопюк Im still right since if the average is 1 and if the ideal is 7, some might get more than one, some get 0. Didn't they also say 1 lmg for every 43 while your calculation gave you 42 (how?), meaning a 40 men company while according to mine each have average of 1 or 2 your calculation actually worse, some don't even have mg.
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