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Comments by "POO CRAYON" (@poocrayon4588) on "What Is Sex Like for Straight Men? | Sex Ed" video.

Men dont "forget they have real pressures" - women and feminist media do. The problem is men and women see consent very differently. For instance feminist women believe that someone who willingly consents to sex while intoxicated even with another equally intoxicated person., can retroactively withdraw that consent or not based on how they later feel. To a man this is a absurd idea because it would mean consent was decided later purely on the basis of emotion. It basically reduces adults to children who are incapable of being responsible for their own decisions. Of course the only way this could work is if it is only used against men - as otherwise every other persons in clubs and bars tonight would be a rapist - but of course it would be pathetic to see men as responsible for womens willing choices. However many women apparently do.
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@flyingblind5677 Oh dont you know when feminist women are talking about something if men "invalidate their lived experience" etc. or "talk for them as women" - then their arrogant and toxic. But if men are talking and feminist women "invalidate mens lived experience etc. - well then they're just standing up to toxic masculinity LMAO! These feminists hide behind meaningless psuedo scientific buzz words like toxic masculinity and such to justify there hypocrisy and bigoted thinking. And their constant need to be in control of the narrative.
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Who cares - asking a few times isnt that much pressure and its not a crime - how often do women pressure and nag in other ways lol? Harden up people
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@danielle806 Of course persuasion is consent lol. What do you think happens in bars every other night - people are literally picking up on people and persuading them to have sex - often women go to bars to be persuaded. Thats the real world
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They arent forced - most men are really really interested in sex lol
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@supernovavlogs152 Feminists only push their own agenda - they dont know how to listen with an open mind or ear to learn
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@chileball8984 The reason the goverment spends more money on womens education and none on improving the drop out rates of males has nothing to do with patriachy - it happens because feminist women push for more funding and special placement for women (even tho they're a majority of college students) and when men try to push for programs to help men get more involved - feminists will cry "patriachy" and "sexism" and try to get them shut down - that is, if those programs dont conform to their feminist ideals. And the goverment is sooo afraid of being called sexist they go along with it. For now.
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We dont want to be - men arent insecure and emotional about sex in the same way as women are - for instance men would never think if they choose to have sex with a woman while drunk that that woman had assualted them -but many women honestly believe that is true when they have drunken sex. Men see themselves as responsible while women see men as responsible sadly. Women need to start accepting responsibility and stop standing in the way of true equality
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it is for young men tho. it really is - or at least its always in the top 5 with whatever other obsessions they have
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@sydneylavald Its such a simplistic thing to say to use the usual feminist fallback argument of "well we define ourselves (feminists) as for equality so therefore we are so dont question us!" - it dont work that way sis. People can judge feminism for themselves based on its actions, outcomes and the content of its "intellectual" theory and works. If those fall short on creating (or working to create) an equality that appeals to both genders then it isnt a true equality and therefore feminism ISNT working for equality at all - only working toward forcing the was feminist women want to live onto everyone - which isnt equality cos its equality defined by and suiting only one group - which shocker! - is those feminist women who define it. You are mistaken in your optimistic comment that when things improve for one group they typically improve for everyone - just as often (as is the case for feminism) when things improve for one group it comes at the expense of another who provides them with the improvement without getting anything in return (and often while losing something). If you doubt this is true just read a little history and you will quickly learn otherwise.
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@Wakanda And here is yet another comment which somehow circles absolutely everything back around to being the fault and responsiblity of men.
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@supernovavlogs152 Feminists "dismantling toxic masculinity" (lol meaningless) is simply a way to say that feminists are justified in telling men what to do even in things that dont affect women. And I show my feelings - But perhaps I just have different feelings than a woman or show them differently, but feminists cant appreciate this and instead think that their way of feeling or showing feeling must be the "right" way because it seems right to THEM. Men have always shown their feelings in a way that was right for THEM - but you are unable to respect that and instead think that your way of doing things is the right way. You are no different than some arrogant man 100 years ago trying to teach women what is best for women - it is absurd you cant see it. Feminism if full of deeply gendered thinking and actions in a biased way toward the feminine POV, instict and want - but it justifies this thru - more feminist theory and thought which is also coming from the POV of women - you see the problem? Perhaps you dont or cant. What would you as a woman know of male mental health? Who are you to even comment on it? If I were to act as feminists like you say that wouldnt be being secure - it would be putting on a phony act. But you cant appreciate that of course. Who are you to tell men how they really feel? Who are you to know? Do you appreciate it when men tell you how you really feel or should show your feelings? That is exactly what you are doing now but because you are a feminist, you think fighting for your feminist cause justifies this kind of arrogance, it doesnt. Especially when you wouldnt want the same done to you.
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@CourtneyDixonDesigns Oh my - still nothing of consequence to say but you just cant help being bitter. Well I guess thats standard feminist operating procedure lol. You were given the chance to defend your one sided arrogant belief that feminism entitles you to tell men what is good for men and you failed miserably - then you got upset about it and started resorting to insults and calling people racists or woman haters lol. The fact is - your just unable to actually articulate your own point of view because your not too bright - but rather than accept this you get upset and throw hissy fits whenever someone doesnt agree with whatever feminist line you repeat (not being able to actually have original thoughts yourself). But Im glad - its good people can see how feminists act -so well done sis! Keep it going! Loud and Proud!
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@mynameisuju First off I never said anything about people being lifeless - you are trying repeatadly to slander me and its sick and disturbing of you. Getting someone drunk to sleep with them is bad - but thats not what I said - I said two drunks people getting drunk then choosing to sleep with each other was a personal choice and not assault. But again nice try at misrepresenting what was said. Why dont you try responding logically to my actual comments if thats actually possible for you - instead of trying to slander me. Right now your just making yourself look like a liar
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Lol, Jubilee really just deleted my reply to the woman above stating that women do go to bars sometimes but not always open to the possibility of sexual encounters brought about by being “picked up on” by men. Basically “persuaded” by a different name. Which is a reality and will be happening all over the world tonight. This isn’t unreasonable and is clearly the truth yet Jubilee deletes it. All because it was reported. So many feminist women instantly turn to reporting comments and trying to get them removed because they disagree and can’t engage with them logically. Censorship rather than truth and conversation is their choice.
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They are only representative of a very niche crowd of woke men who would appear on jubilee
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@CourtneyDixonDesigns "mansplaining" - yet another of these gendered slurs made up by feminists as a quick buzz word response to dismiss mens pov. Pathetic and meaningless
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Ikr? These feminists just cant stop and see their own hypocrisy and bullying
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@KathrinH1997 No its at best about feminists pushing their vision for and equal society onto everyone. What does it matter if theres no gender norms if everyone has to live in an equal society dreamt up by feminists and most people dont like it? Sure youve created equality - but its a crappy version of equality because its only catering to what feminist women want. Which of course isnt true equality.
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@CourtneyDixonDesigns You didnt stay on topic tho - as soon as anyone disagreed with your feminism you got mad and called them woman haters or even more absurdly - racists. And you seem to think this is fine for you to do, tho I bet you would see it as insane and very bigoted if someone else did it. You also come of as thinking you shouldnt even bother explaining your actual point of view because being a feminist makes you sooo above everybody - especially men. Everyone was cool until you started the close minded agression and name calling with people you disagreed with. You choose to act like the stereotypical feminazi - no one forced you to and no one was calling you that.
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@Zealand808-v2o And here is the first comment by a woman which somehow circles back around to men being responsible for everything in some way. Even when that something is done by a woman. Pathetic.
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@sxblime_ Yeah - for men if sex starts or looks like it might start and there not in the mood they just say so. Its no biggie for pretty much all men
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Well its not
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Most people dont want to do that - its not hot
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A lot of women just send nudes - it makes them feel hot or some shiz. Idk its nuts
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@jialian93 Girls that do Onlyfans are just internet hookers - they're the only ones who dont see themselves that way lol
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@Zealand808-v2o Whoa! dont get triggered! Im just discussing. I meant feminists want to enforce the societal expectations THEY want to be in place - not that they want to continue to enfore existing or formerly existing societal expectations - and its true. So nice that you resort to insults as soon as someone doesnt agree with feminism. Typical and telling
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@supernovavlogs152 No tho you may be if you truly believe in feminism - feminism is totally sexist gendered thinking based in assuming the female POV to be the worthwhile one and the one that should become the norm and rule of :equality"
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@CourtneyDixonDesigns Wow. Rude much. I didnt realise you only wanted the replies to turn into a feminist echo chamber
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@CourtneyDixonDesigns Well I dont hate women at all - but I suppose simply saying that is a lot easier than having to be able to explain your own point of view - so Ill simply assume your not capable of explaining your own thoughts about the subject.
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@CourtneyDixonDesigns Actually your original comment and further follow ups in this thread are a very good representation of feminism - feminism claims it want equality, it claims it wants all people to be respected and listened to - but scratch the surface of these claims and we find.... you. The truth is you are so close minded you are not capable of intellectual discussion so you hide behind this facade of insults and falsely representing those who disagree with you as woman haters. You started out your post by claiming that we should listen to each other - but now your true feelings are clear. You dont want to listen but only to have people agree with you. Your hatred for anyone who doesnt agree with your "movement" of feminism is evident. Now you are turning to attempting to insult my character ala "the way I am the way I am" - because surely (in your mind) anyone who doesnt agree with feminists like you must have something seriously wrong with them. And you describe yourself as open to other ideas? Laughable! But this is what so many feminists do - attempt to discredit the person not the argument - so your response was nothing if not predictable and typical of this.
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@sunflwrr3631 Feminism is at best a movement that seeks to implement feminist womens vision of gender equality. Thats why its called feminism and why womens opinions carry the day within it. That whether you like it or not - is female superiority in action - even if it dont call itself that. It is no different than men trying to make an equal society but not actually basing it around what women want at all.
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@RileyQuinn Women are literally the ones interrupting men talking about their experiences in the comment section of this video. See the few feminists above who are trying to explain men to men lol.
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@RawrieAddicted Female and woman are used as the same thing - many female commentors here have referred to men as both males and men without a second thought (nor should they have one). Its silly to just b looking for sexism then if you dont find it making it up and getting triggered by it.
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@LA-cm9uo Im telling you as a man how most men think about it
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No actually your in a minority of men - most men feel that feminism is pushing a false narrative about them onto society
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@alexisfuller1503 You dont get to define how men consent- if men feel they have consented simply by taking part in the act then that is for them to define - not you. You dont think or speak for men
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@bumquack2461 I live on the rock of reality for men - which I know about cos Im a man and which you dont cos your not. Who are you to think you know what men want in this regard? Men dont need or want to have to give constant assurances of consent like some women do - thats a fact. Who are you to dictate what men should want?
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@mia2195 Drunkness doesnt equal unconciousness. So your telling me that all the men and women who choose to get drunk and have willing sex together are both guilty of sexual assault and sexual assault victims? Or does it only become so if one says so. Because all over the world and country tonight men and women are making that choice - people in couples, people in bars hooking up, even married people. And stop reporting my comments because your afraid to answer and want the last word.
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And again a deleted comment from Jubilee. Twice in a row I have pointed out that all over the world and country tonight men and women will be choosing to drink and have sex. I have pointed out that if all drunken sex is assault then all the people all over the world (men and women both), who choose to willingly drink then willingly have sex are both assault victims and guilty of sexual assault and that thats what will be happening all over the place tonight - people in couples, in bars, and married people will drink and have sex. Are they all guilty of and victims of a sexual crime in feminists eyes? That would be absurd and mean basically that no one could ever drink before sex. For saying this twice my comments have been deleted by Jubilee because they've triggered some feminist who doesnt want the obvious lack of logic in saying you cant consent to sex while drinking pointed out.
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@karlyg.e.m.21 " Everyone seems to have their own definition of consent and that's ok." Um no - thats not ok at all. Thats the problem - consent clearly needs a concrete definition if violating it is punishable by law. It cant simply be based on personal definition - that would be absurd and impractical on every level.
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@CourtneyDixonDesigns "gaslighting" yet another meaningless feminist buzz word thrown out so that you can simply dismiss a man without having to respond intelligently or logically to whats actually been written. You wrote that people should understand each other - its clear now from the way you use terms like gaslighting etc. that you really just want to push your own point of view and shut down those you dont want to hear or cant reason to engage with
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@Zealand808-v2o Toxic masculinity is a slur used by feminists when they wish to silence men but have no good explanation as to why. Just a meaningless buzzword. And feminism isnt for everyone - at best feminism is womens vision of equality as defined by women - which isnt equality at all. At worst its just lies and personality disordered women hiding behind a movement. But either way - its not for everone.
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@cottoncandace7704 The truth is men dont see being asked for sex a bunch of times or having sex while drunk as rape tho. Thats only women
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@Zealand808-v2o You dont know what it is- you just throw it out as a buzz word as tho your proving a point by saying it - but your not - its totally meaningless. Its merely a psuedo social scientific feminist term used to silence and slur men feminists dont agree with. Feminists are the ones who want to make random rules for men which dont take into account mens actual feelings or nature. Who are you as a woman to tell a man to educate himself about his own gender? The arrogance and hypocrisy of feminists is unbelievable lol
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@Zealand808-v2o Women have a massive influence over media especially social media - they're the chief pushers of "cancelling" and the like
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Men dont want or need to be asked. We just dont think like that. Fact.
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@Adele-195 Its a grey area which makes very little sense legally as the point of being "drunk" is impossible to define. Basically where that is the law the law is wrong and should be changed because its totally unpractical and only exists because some feminist types pushed it thru without anyone questioning the morality or logic of it. It really makes everyone having sex while drunk or even drinking (since "intoxicated' cant be legally defined beyond the precence of drugs or alcohol) a possible victim and perp - because of their own willing actions - which is absurd. Logically it would make sex after drinking impossible and we might as well ban alcohol. Of course most women dont seem to care that its totally illogical and would legally almost certainly make many of them guilty of crimes as well if it were enforced as law more often - they will just get upset and not be able to adress any of the points Ive just made and say -"well its the law" or "you cant consent while intoxicated" - well, thats not a good enough answer for me and I have no respect for the intelligence of anyone who makes it.
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Its not representative of anything but the woke men jubilee found
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@silasscomo245 People arent scared of it out of ignorance but out of understanding - its very arrogant to assume that everyone who doesnt like feminism feels that way cos they're scared - and not cos they've looked at it and not agreed with its ideas and actions. Feminism is full of female gendered thinking and biased toward women - its just trying to force society to cater only to womens wishes and instincts because the women who push it think they way they feel and think is the "right way" and want to push that onto everyone. Its no differrent than blowhard men telling women how to act because they think they know best. You should spend time questioning its ideas to see if they really stack up rather than just go along with it because you want to feel progressive and like a defender of women. The only feminism is going is straight of a cliff. Feminists just dont know it yet.
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@tasneemahmed5821 They have a reason - perhaps you just dont want to listen to it. Feminism doesnt benefit everyone - thats just what feminists claim - really it benefits whoever agrees with what it does. If its goal is to benefit everyone its failed and will continue to fail - how could it not when its literally just the female point of view and the female vision of an equal society - and doesnt take mens views into account - or at least sees them as secondary.
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@unfortunateson5016 Drunk sex isnt rape its a choice
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@epicgamer5269 Hes telling the truth and you want him banned? Pathetic. Hes right - men and women are very different emotionally when it comes to sex
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@Iris Alvarez Feminists font want equality - they want their version of equality which forces everyone to think like them and assumes the womans pov is the correct one.
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@rosesforviolets Intoxicated sex isnt rape. Its a choice. What if they were both intoxicated like thousands of people who go home from bars tonight and have sex? That is their choice - stop trying to reduce people to children who arent capable of making choices
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Im not trolling at all. I just habve a different pov from u so you call me a troll to try to dismiss and silence me
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Thats a feminist idea but most men dont want it applied to them. Stop trying to force your own wants onto men
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@alexisfuller1503 No. Im telling the truth - if men willingly go along with an act they feel they have consented - words arent neccassary - if women feel otherwise that is fine too. What part of saying that is trolling to you?
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@mynameisuju I have no idea what your talking about. I said women should be more proactive about their own pleasure in a different comment - is that what you mean? and why do you see that as a bad thing?
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@Trynatostayalive1234 Yeah - they absolutely do see it that way, as absurd as that sounds. And judging who is more sober in such situations is basically impossible.
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@supernovavlogs152 And it is - but thats not good enough for feminists, they need to keep on telling men how men must think. They just cant stop there constant instinct for control. Its sad. I genuinely believe most prominent and or passionate feminists have personality disorders
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@CourtneyDixonDesigns I dont misunderstand at all - if feminists define what equality looks like and the rules of it - that isnt equality at all. See feminists dont just want equality - they want to change things up entirely to suit their own wants and needs (and in some of the most important ways already have) - so yes if this was successful obviously anyone who didnt share those wants or needs would be losing something or living in a way they didnt wish to. Which feminists would define as equality but which is really only just everyone living as feminists tell them to live. If men were to create a perfectly equal society - but not take into account the wishes of women while making it would you like to live in that society or see it as actually equal? (being that it doesnt consider what women want at all) - this is the problem, this is what feminists want (at best) - to create an equal society for all which is built solely on what women want - and feminists are able to justify this kind of arrogance and superiority to themselves thru their own self bias catering feminist theory. You dont yeild or bend your perceptions - and you erect walls to protect yourself and refuse to see beyond them - but of course you justify this with feminism
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@Zealand808-v2o How did I start by insulting you? By questioning feminism lol? Thats personally insulting to you is it? I just explained it all to you femzi - you just chose to ignore it.
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@supernovavlogs152 A civil conversation? You started out by telling me to say I hated women lol - just say you dont really care about men or their pov
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@Trey The centrist So true - there was always some strange thinking in it but now its totally come to the forefront. I guess thats inevitable - any sane woman interested in helping women these days would simply advocate for women in the areas they actually need it (sexual assualt) etc. DV in an honest way without trying to tie those things into some grand theory of oppression which then entitles them to selfishly rewrite society to their wishes and wants - and call it equality.
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@mynameisuju And again you lie and try to slander me - you should be ashamed of yourself - is this what you do to everyone you disagree with. Thats pathetic. I said in reply to a poster who wrote that her boyfriend never got her off that women also need to take part in getting themselves off during sex instead of laying there and doing nothing - nowhere did I mention drinking, nowhere did I mention that this had been my experience. You are lying. And again nowhere did I say I got women drunk - I said men and women chosing to get drunk together and have sex was an adult choice and not assault - apparently this idea of responsibility for your own actions offends you so much you need to lie to try to argue against it. But that doesnt surprise me as their is no argument based in truth that could make sense of it. Again you are lying.
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@lavenderpumpkincrunch2528 So just say no again. If someone is constantly pestering you for sex when you dont want it then break up with them as you either have mismatched sex drives or your not attracted to them or they dont respect boundries. BUT if someone asks for sex or tries it on later maybe one more time after being knocked back or does it in a joking way its not a big deal - this is not just men doing this, actually its not something I do but I have had different women do it to me in a playful way. Should I have called the cops on those women lol? ts not a big deal, pp need to get a grip already.
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@liltoaster7308 She is incapable of seeing her own victim blaming or seeing toxic femininity in general. Dont you know? Feminists are always right just ask them - theyll educate you on how right they are and how you just need to believe everything they say lol
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Men dont want to be asked - its lame
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@rachellotus5137 No dont you know that everything is non consensual! Arent you a feminist?
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@sxblime_ Yes it is gender based. Thats why this stuff is coming from women and not men. Because its not important to men
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@RawrieAddicted Perhaps but hes in a small minority of men who feel that way - thats why as you can see its all women agreeing with him. He can feel how he feels - but the women agreeing with him are in no position to say hes right and Im wrong. They cant possibly speak for how men actually feel about this. And the truth is the majority of men feel like I said. You need to accept that its not wrong for men to feel differently to women about some things like this instead of trying to bonzai them into feeling like women. There is no right or wrong in this
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@Lockeditin Men arent women - why would you expect them to feel the same about sex or want the same kind of reassurance as you do? They dont
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@dris1702 Nope Im really not. Maybe your circle of male friends and guys you know is very niche and from the woke crowd or a bunch of nerds I dunno - but Im telling straight facts kid
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@jessii7642 Except men dont think that not being asked for consent at every step of sex is assault or that having sex while drunk is assault. Thats just not how men think - who are women to make up the definition of what should be assault ON MEN - that would be like men telling women what they thought assault wasnt because it doesnt seem like it to men (not being asked, drunk sex etc.) Why do you think you know how men feel or can tell them how to feel?
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Yes but drunken sex isnt rape - its an adult choice between consenting adults
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You do realise that people all over the world and country will be hooking up while drunk tonight right? Are the hundreds of thousands of them every single night all both guilty of assualt and victims of assualt in your eyes? Men and women aren’t children - they can make the choice to get drunk and have sex with each other willingly. Now I know you’ll probably just respond with something simplistic like “you can consent while intoxicated” (or get rtriggered and have Jubilee remove the comment) rather than actually reply to the content of my comment but how does “you can’t consent while intoxicated” actually work irl outside of the feminist social media echo chamber when men and women the world over are drinking, getting intoxicated and having sex and they do believe they’ve consented willingly? Would you have them all arrested? Ban alcohol since clearly in your eyes no one is responsible for their own choices after using it? It makes no sense at all
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They were "oblivious" and "chill" because its not important to them like it is to you as a woman. Stop thinking your way of thinking as a woman is the right way and needs to be forced onto men. It doesnt
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@ad2094 I dont assume they are there for that reason and never said I did - I said that they were "sometimes but not always open to the possibility of sexual encounter being brought about by being "picked up on by men" (which I define as basically persuasion by another name). Do you disagree that this is a possibility? I mean you can go out tonight and watch the clear evidence that its a very real possibility and happens all the time if you honestly dont believe me. It is absurd that you or any one else would try to dispute this. So if you can actually respond to the content of my comment without either just repeating a basic feminist talking point while ignoring what Ive actually written, or using buzz words like rpe culture but again ignoring what Ive actually written please do so. If not I look foward to Jubille deleting my comment after you report it because you cant actually logically engage with what Im saying.
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@ad2094 Getting comments deleted for no reason pisses me off lol - so yeah, maybe I was rude - but guess what? -You still didnt and never have actually replied to the content of any of my comments. So its not just that you (or others) have a different viewpoint - its when I ask questions about your view point/disagree with it - how does it make sense, hows it practical etc. - you or others seem totally unable to answer and in truth dont even seem to have an argument other than to repeat a basic phrase ala "you cant consent after drinking" or "persuasion isnt consent" and are unable to answer very basic questions about the logic or practicality of your stated belief. And when I give my own viewpoint/argument - again you dont seem able to actually discuss what Ive written at all - you just repeat the original thing you said. So yeah, no offence but most of the replies do just seem like a repeat of the commenters original simplistic comment, with a "certain phrase" (rp culture etc.) thrown in as tho something as been proven by the use of it and sometimes with attempted personal insults - tho you at least havent done this. So again - no offence- but the replies honestly do lack logic because they arent a logical back and forth discussion of the actual content of comments which becomes discussion - only a repeat of simplistic phrases (as I already mentioned) without real explanation. I cant possibly respect that or pretend that I do
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@ad2094 I didnt make it a point - its a truth - I only began arguing when people began saying it never happened and it was sexist to say so - and that those women were all the victims of sexual assault by default instead of making a conscious choice to drink then be open to "persuasion" by men (also probably drunk) to have sex. It is those saying this isnt consensual and the men are guilty of some crime I was arguing against.
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@silasscomo245 Has it? WHat has it done? Perhaps it has become what is holding us back from solving our problems? You say you dont understand it - but if its really for the good of you and men - shouldnt it also appeal to and be equally desirable to men? Even the best intentioned feminists can only speak for women because they come from a feminine point of view - and them pushing their agenda as the "one true way" is only going to lead to a bad place for everyone. But most of all for them.
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@efrainsantiago2811 Theyre wrong then
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@jchapfly5422 No - this is the minority of dudes. It has nothing to do with being great or not - this simply isnt representative of the way most men think about sex - that doesnt mean men that dont think like this are a problem. Well I guess to some types it does.
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Who cares what you think of straight men? Not straight men. Also like half the guys in this video describe being bi or doing gay stuff
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@winry1890 yes - if your bi your not straight
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Yeah but in what situation are men actually being forced? Unless you think mutually drunk sex is assualt when it isn’t there really isn’t to many situations where men are capable of being assaulted (by women). Reality is men don’t feel all this pressure and invisible coercion so many women seem to. That’s just truth matey
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@yolkcloak Yeah sure but unless they're kids (in which case theyre not men) or maybe if they're disabled in some way how is this even possible?
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@mia2195 A woman doesnt choose to get drunk and get coerced into sex most of the time tho - most of the time men and women get drunk together and then have sex. They make that choice willingly but you as a feminist want to say they're not capable of making a adult choice they believe they are capable of. You are the one who wants to change it to sexual assualt - its not, nor has it ever been before. Your infantalizing grown women and men - and its both ridiculous and impractical.
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@kookie6615 Im not - these feminists are
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@mia2195 I dunt crare
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@wolfzmusic9706 Ikr - I for real send attachments I dont mean to all the time when Im not paying attention to what Im sending
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@sydneylavald You as a woman think feminism is misunderstood but the fact that so many women like it yet so few men do should perhaps tell you that maybe it isnt misunderstood at all - maybe your just not placing an equal value on mens opinions as you do on womens - so you assume that feminism is alright because you as a woman agree with it. Well of course you as a woman agree with it as it caters to your wants, thoughts and needs. But it doesnt for men. The fact that its only women who dig it should logically tell you this. If it doesnt its becaused you are biased toward the opinions of you own gender.
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@lenam8495 Men dont want you to do it. Women are the ones with the worries and insecurities surrounding consent. Some women need to stop trying to force their thinking onto men - and stop thinking most men secretly think like them when they dont
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Morgan Taylor Many things, some their own fault some the fault of women - but none of them are being forced into sex
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Like half the men were bi - how is that "straight men" ?
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@Zealand808-v2o No you want to set societal expectations for men
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@CourtneyDixonDesigns Change their mind to your mind you mean
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@CourtneyDixonDesigns I just pointed out the truth of what some feminists have done in regards to advocating for women in education while shutting down advocation for men. It is you who are reaching in saying this is somehow hating women. You cant disagree so you have to resort to false slurs. Now youve even started implying Im a racist because I disagree with feminism even tho we havent been discussing anything about race. But thats to be expected from feminists I guess - dont like something someone says - try to slander them with absurd lies based on nothing at all. Perhaps you are racist since and projecting onto me, since you have race on the brain? Idk, but Idk your giving an excellent display of the way a feminist thinks and operates.
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@saharaasher8959 But equality is defined by female feminists in feminism so as it is only based in the wants and needs of one sex - it isnt true equality. Just saying something is "for equality" so everyone should be it is so meaningless and simplistic if people dont believe it. Yet thats the feminist fallback. Its not for equality - it only believes and defines itself that way to justify it forcing its own beliefs on everyone
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@Trey The centrist So true - its always been going on. The help for women in education is particularly telling - despite being the majority of college grads feminist women still believe women need ever more programs to help them - but are offended by and will try to shut down programs to help men if they arent in some way controlled by feminists. That alone should show you how hateful those who actively participate in feminism have become - even if they arent aware of it
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@Trey The centrist I have skimmed this comment section to the bottom and its truly hilarious and sad that this girl who is trying to act all factual and intellectual is signing into multiple accounts to like her own comments after accusing yall of doing the same lol. Its funny how insulting she was being with the name calling too, cos ya know if someone did it to her she would be reporting them and calling them sexist lol.
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@saharaasher8959 Yes there it - they would have to be accepted and approved opinions by the women feminists who would control what was and wasnt allowed to be said and defined as feminist. But anyway - why should mens inputs on gender and such matters have to be included under the definition of feminism to be worthwhile? Are feminists the only ones who are allowed to speak on anything relating to gender in their own minds? Feminism is full of many sexist and gendered beahviours of women which are never discussed and never could be within it because they would always be excused or seen as positive by women. The reality is feminism is just pushing for womens needs and wants and calling what is natural for them good and anything else "toxic". Its passe at this point
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There cherry picked - then there’s the fact that they’re described as straight men despite some describing being bi or possibly gay lol. Jubilee gotta have that inclusion even when it contradicts the point of their video lol
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Persuasion is consent - its literally just charming someone
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@munao.8948 People chat up others in bars all the time and have sex because of it - thats persuasion . "picking someone up" is persuasion a lot of the time. Thats the real world where most people live
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@munao.8948 No you dont understand - thats not what Im talking about. Of course you should leave someone alone and not pester them if they ask you to -but chatting someone up/charming someone in the exact way you describe can also be persuasion. Its just more subtle. Very few people go home for sex with people in clubs or bars just because they ask over and over - thats not the type of persuasion Im talking about. And it wouldnt even be effective anyway. Maybe you see it as getting to know someone - but plenty of people just see it as putting on a act to persuade someone (ie charm ie pick up on) to go home with them and have sex. And it works. And its NOT assualt and its absurd to think of it as assault.
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@etcwhatever Felt like but wasnt - not if it was asking and you could say no. Its insensitive and pig like sure - but its not a crime. Sorry, no offense but thats the truth
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@mynameisuju no feminists do hurt men - but I never claimed they sexually assualted them much. Although feminists do define drinking then having sex as assault so I guess if we believe that then many women have in fact hurt men by assaulting them. What was the Terry Crews thing again - some old guy played grabby snatch with his ass or peen or something? I dont recall. Whatever it was he should have just said - wtf you doing, back off - or at the least "Im not interested". But its really no biggie and its kinda weird he was soo traumatised by it lol
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@iheartfm2458 yes it is
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@iheartfm2458 wrong its true
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@iheartfm2458 yes
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@iheartfm2458 yes
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@Zealand808-v2o Oh I proved you wrong many times and all you did was get triggered and showed your single minded arrogance in assuming you know men better than men because your a feminist. Notice how the people who agree with you are feminist women and not the men you supposedly understand and care about? That should tell you how wrong you are and how arrogant your being but instead it only makes you double down lol. Its no different than some old fashioned man telling women he knows better than women what they need lol. Sooo hypicritical - its laughable you dont see it. But anyway - I hope you keep going and feminists keep agreeing with you - it only shows more and more men the truth.
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@iheartfm2458 yes
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@Zealand808-v2o Lol "proved" wrong with "evidence"? What? What evidence? what proof? You gave no proof of anything because there is no proof - hate to break it to you but a feminist agreeing with another feminist doeesnt "prove" anything. Although Im sure those living in the feminist echo chamber with you believe so. You are the one who espouses a misandrist female centric philosophy. As to the rest of your comment - it makes little sense feminist. Your living in a bubble land sister. You have no clue about men or the reality of feminism - which is in fact full of deeply gendered and sexist beahaviour from women toward men.
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@RileyQuinn Nah babe - I understand feminism and have it summed up accurately, so if your such an expert feminist and disagree and thats the best you can reply to what Ive said then thats pretty pathetic and shows more than anything that you must not know the theory your talking about - otherwise you would be able to use it easily in discussion or debate - but you cant. But I guess your reply is a pretty typical response of someone who doesnt know what they're talking about and can explain their own point of view - cos they havent thought it thru logically only emotionally.
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@RileyQuinn I also find it funny honey - that the second your precious feminism is questioned you feel it entitles you to resort to the gendered patronizing language (honey) that you claim to hate coming from men. But I guess thats typical feminist hypocrisy for ya!
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They’re not actually straight if you watch the video - the title claims it but the video clearly has them describing being bi
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Men dont mind it - we dont think like women and women need to accept that reality
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@annasmith7335 What feminists describe as enthusiastic consent is 100% lame and childlike
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