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Haplogroup R is also originally from Buryatia just like Q.
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@borisshono8974 There were no any Mongolic language before 8th century😂 keep dreaming about Turkic and Para-Mongolic peoples being Mongolic😂😂😂
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Haplogroup R is also originally from Buryatia just like Q.
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Xiongnus and Huns were Oghur Turkic peoples
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According to historians and linguists, the Proto-Turkic language originated in Central-East Asia region,[39] potentially in Mongolia or Tuva.[40][41] Initially, Proto-Turkic speakers were potentially both hunter-gatherers and farmers, but later became nomadic pastoralists.[42]
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That’s nothing but pseudo-history
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They were Turkic peoples both ethnically and genetically
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Iranians are actually Indo-Iranized natives like Elamites and Kassites
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This is the story that the seventh-century Byzantine author Theophylactus Simocatta tells about the origin of the Avars.27 He calls them Pseudo-Avars, who in reality were a band of Ogurs called Varchonites.
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@upeupenieks7876 Turkic is ethnolinguistic group like Slavic and Ethno-linguistic group already means union of closely related ethnic groups.
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other option to discuss is a historical and cultural – but not linguistic – continuity; this would imply a language shift from the Mongolic-speaking Rourans to the Turkic-speaking Avars at some point of their history. In parallel, both disciplines suggest that at least some of the European Avars were of Eastern Asian ancestry, but neither linguistic nor genetic evidence provides sufficient support for a specific connection between the Avars and the Asian Rourans. Savelyev A, Jeong C (2020). Early nomads of the Eastern Steppe and their tentative connections in the West. Evolutionary Human Sciences 2, e20, 1–17.
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@History_Paleogenetics Starostin, George (2016). "Altaic Languages". Oxford Research Encyclopedia of Linguistics. Despite the validity of many of these objections, it remains unclear whether they are sufficient to completely discredit the hypothesis of a genetic connection between the various branches of “Altaic,” which continues to be actively supported by a small, but stable scholarly minority.
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Not really. There were many native peoples in Central Asia as well like Botai and BMAC.
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@nejdan2k2 Nobody says Jie was Yeniseic except a FEW scholars, whereas majority of modern experts classified Jie as Oghur Turkic language like Andrew Shimunek and others.
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@nejdan2k2 Jie and Xiongnu spoke a closely related language to GAOJU (Tiele) according to entire Chinese documents😂 such as Weishu😂 Weishu LITERALLY MENTIONED about Xiongnu language kid😂
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Although the Turks often comprised the bulk of the Mongol army as well as the bulk of armies opposed to the Mongols, throughout the domains of the Mongol Empire there was a diffusion of military technology, which has already bee and also ethnic groups. In addition to the Mongols and Turks, other ethnicities served in the Mongol military machine and found themselves distant from home. May, T.M., 2012. The Mongol conquests in world history, London: Reaktion Books. p.222
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Although the Turks often comprised the bulk of the Mongol army as well as the bulk of armies opposed to the Mongols, throughout the domains of the Mongol Empire there was a diffusion of military technology, which has already bee and also ethnic groups. In addition to the Mongols and Turks, other ethnicities served in the Mongol military machine and found themselves distant from home. May, T.M., 2012. The Mongol conquests in world history, London: Reaktion Books. p.222
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other option to discuss is a historical and cultural – but not linguistic – continuity; this would imply a language shift from the Mongolic-speaking Rourans to the Turkic-speaking Avars at some point of their history. In parallel, both disciplines suggest that at least some of the European Avars were of Eastern Asian ancestry, but neither linguistic nor genetic evidence provides sufficient support for a specific connection between the Avars and the Asian Rourans. Savelyev A, Jeong C (2020). Early nomads of the Eastern Steppe and their tentative connections in the West. Evolutionary Human Sciences 2, e20, 1–17.
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Although the Turks often comprised the bulk of the Mongol army as well as the bulk of armies opposed to the Mongols, throughout the domains of the Mongol Empire there was a diffusion of military technology, which has already bee and also ethnic groups. In addition to the Mongols and Turks, other ethnicities served in the Mongol military machine and found themselves distant from home. May, T.M., 2012. The Mongol conquests in world history, London: Reaktion Books. p.222
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Khazars believe that Togarmah had 10 sons called Ujur , Tauriks , Avar , Uauz , Bizal , Tarna , Khozar , Janur , Balgar and Sabir . These names coincide with different Turkic tribes which settled in the area around the Black and Caspian seas within the Khazarian Empire . Khari, R., 2007. Jats and Gujars. New Delhi: Reference Press, p.21. II. THE LETTER OF JOSEPH THE KING, SON OF AARON THE KING, THE TURK -MAY HIS CREATOR PRESERVE HIM-TO THE HEAD OF THE AS SEMBLY, HASDAI, THE SON OF ISAAC, SON OF EZRA-about 960 ... I wish to inform you that your beautifully phrased letter was given us by Isaac, son of Eliezer, a Jew of the land of Germany. [Isaac carried it through Germany, Hungary, and Russia to Chazaria.] You made us happy and we are delighted with your understanding and wisdom.... Let us, therefore, renew the dip lomatic relations that once obtained between our fathers, and let us transmit this heritage to our children. [Joseph believed the Chazars had once had diplomatic relations with the Spanish Arabs.] You ask us also in your epistle: "Of what people, of what family, and of what tribe are you?" Know that we are descended from Japhet, through his son Togarmah. [In Jewish literature Togarmah is the father of all the Turks.] I have found in the genealogical books of my ancestors that Togarmah had ten sons. These are their names: the eldest was Ujur, the second Tauris, the third Avar, the fourth Uguz, the fifth Bizal, the sixth Tarna, the seventh Chazar, the eighth Janur, the ninth Bulgar, the tenth Sawir. [These are the mythical founders of tribes that once lived in the neighborhood of the Black and Caspian Seas.] I am a descendant of Chazar, the seventh son. Jacob R. Marcus., 1999. The Jew in the Medieval World: A Sourcebook, 315-1791. pp.256, 257
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Nevertheless, Turkic peoples share, to varying degrees, non-linguistic characteristics like cultural traits, ancestry from a common gene pool, and historical experiences.[1] Some of the most notable modern Turkic ethnic groups include the Altai people, Azerbaijanis, Chuvash people, Gagauz people, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz people, Turkmens, Turkish people, Tuvans, Uyghurs, Uzbeks, and Yakuts.
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Altaic peoples didn’t exist
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By this logic Basque and Chadic peoples are also Indo-Europeans 😂😂
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@History_Paleogenetics yes but source 39, 40, 41, 42 are new and reliable sources not outdated (and vast majority of scholars accepted)
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@History_Paleogenetics Modern supporters of Altaic acknowledge that many shared features are the result of contact and convergence and thus cannot be taken as evidence for a genetic relationship, but they nevertheless argue that a core of existing correspondences goes back to a common ancestor. Dybo, Anna (March 2020). "New Trends in European Studies on the Altaic Problem". Journal of Language Relationship. 14 (1–2): 71–106.
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@ðənjudæs maybe or not
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@nejdan2k2 Turks on average have literally 30% Altai MLBA related blood kid😂
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Haplogroup N is non-Mongolic in origin
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@borisshono8974 source = trustmebro Lol
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@borisshono8974 Keyser et al. 2020, pp. 1, 8–9. "[O]ur findings confirmed that the Xiongnu had a strongly admixed mitochondrial and Y-chromosome gene pools and revealed a significant western component in the Xiongnu group studied.... [W]e propose Scytho-Siberians as ancestors of the Xiongnu and Huns as their descendants... [E]ast Eurasian R1a subclades R1a1a1b2a-Z94 and R1a1a1b2a2-Z2124 were a common element of the Hun, Avar and Hungarian Conqueror elite and very likely belonged to the branch that was observed in our Xiongnu samples. Moreover, haplogroups Q1a and N1a were also major components of these nomadic groups, reinforcing the view that Huns (and thus Avars and Hungarian invaders) might derive from the Xiongnu as was proposed until the eighteenth century but strongly disputed since... Some Xiongnu paternal and maternal haplotypes could be found in the gene pool of the Huns, the Avars, as well as Mongolian and Hungarian conquerors." Whereas Mongolic peoples have C>O>N mostly not N>R>Q LOOOOOL
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@borisshono8974 Weishu, vol. 103 txt: "高車，[...] 其語略與匈奴同而時有小異，或云其先匈奴之甥也", tr: "The Gaoju, [...] their language and the Xiongnu's are similar though differ a little; or to say it differently, they are the sororal nephews/sons-in-laws of the Xiongnu” According to the Book of Wei, the Yuebans' language and customs were the same as the Gaoche, who were Turkic speakers. Yuebans(Weak Xiongnu) cut their hair and trimmed their ghee-smeared, sun-dried, glossy eyebrows evenly, and washed before meals three times everyday. Weishu, Vol. 102 "其風俗言語與高車同，而其人清潔於胡。俗剪髮齊眉，以醍醐塗之，昱昱然光澤，日三澡漱，然後飲食。"
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@nejdan2k2 that’s an academic reality deal with it
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@nejdan2k2 Timoth May is one of the leading experts on Mongol history kiddo😹😹😹😹
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@nejdan2k2 and your non-existent credible sources
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@Горецсгор-в9г nope
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@nejdan2k2 cap
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@nejdan2k2 🤓
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@nejdan2k2 N is mostly from ancient Turkic peoples 🙃
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@nejdan2k2 aka Pseudo-Avars :))
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@nejdan2k2 Buryats are genetically more Turkic than Mongolic 🤣🤣
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@nejdan2k2 This is the story that the seventh-century Byzantine author Theophylactus Simocatta tells about the origin of the Avars.27 He calls them Pseudo-Avars, who in reality were a band of Ogurs called Varchonites.
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@nejdan2k2 Nevertheless, Turkic peoples share, to varying degrees, non-linguistic characteristics like cultural traits, ancestry from a common gene pool, and historical experiences.[1]
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@nejdan2k2 In the 7–8th centuries, ancestors of Bargas, the Bayirku, a Turkic tribe appeared as tribes near Lake Baikal, named Bargujin. In "Old Tangs Book", it was called "拔野古", "拔野固", "拔曳固". Genghis Khan's ancestor Alan Gua was of Barga ancestry. Mongol Empire circa 1207 It is most likely that the ancestors of modern Buryats are Bayyrku and Kurykans who were part of the tribal union of the Tiele. The Tiele, in turn, came from the Dingling. The first information about Dingling appeared in sources from the 2nd century BC.[11] LOL
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@nejdan2k2 A subsequent wave of pagan Turkic tribes made up the majority of Genghis Khan's Mongol army, which devastated the Islamic world in the thirteenth century.
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@nejdan2k2 Mongol society - or rather Turko - Mongol , since Jenghiz Khan absorbed a number of Turkic tribes from the Altai - remained aristocratic in character . It was the ancient " aristocracy of the steppes "
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