Comments by "Scott Farner" (@scottfarner5100) on "Greyhound to ban immigration checks on buses without warrant" video.

  1.  Dennis Walker  As the unwritten policy was infringing on the 4th amendment rights of Greyhound. So on January 28 the head of border patrol changed the policy requiring a warrant or asking permission to detain and search without probable cause or reasonable suspicion. Greyhound now with a written p[policy from the border patrol, then changed their policy from allowing the search to denying the search without a warrant. This set off the Right who instead of supporting the law and constitutional protection, have decided to call for a boycott of Greyhound.
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  2.  Dennis Walker  and that maybe reasonable suspicion for a police officer to stop and question the driver. It would not trigger a search of a Greyhound bus and the passengers by Border Patrol. That would be the subject here. Unwarranted search and detaining of a Greyhound bus by immigration enforcement without reasonable suspicion and probable cause. What part of that escapes your understanding?
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  3. @North of the Rio Grande No I just don't support law enforcement violating the constitution rights of Americans and I don't understand why people like you support them doing it.
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  4.  John Johnson  just shred the Bill of Rights.
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  5. You mean the constitution that protects the rights of this company. It was Border Patrol that changed the policy all Greyhound did was agree to change their policies to match border control.
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  6. @Bill Randleman are you claiming that corporations should be subject to illegal search without a warrant? That sounds like an insane opinion.
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  7.  Pam Schobelock  those commenting in here on the left are the only ones interested in protecting the 4th amendment constitutional protections in the Bill if Rights. Every person commenting on the Right has been supporting violating Greyhounds constitutional rights and want to boycott the company for requesting a warrant before having federal agents search private property. It seems just like all the other from the right commenting you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
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  8.  Dennis Walker  and where would that reasonable suspicion and probable cause come from to randomly search a bus when none of that exist?
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  9. @Bill Randleman Is the corporation owned by and operated by Americans in America. If so then just like your home it's personal property. That means the 4th Amendment protects that property from illegal search and seizure without a warrant. What's so hard to understand. I don't care about what your opinion is I care about what the law states. I'm not sure why you are arguing for the government to ignore their constitutional rights, when the federal government has already confirmed this and has changed their policy.
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  10. Learn what the law is they are complying.
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  11. So you're in support of big government federal agents disregard of 4th amendment constitutional protections under the Bill of Rights. You support warrantless searches of private property of American citizens and their businesses? Should we have immigration agents searching homes at random without warrant or consent?
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  12.  @timapple7843  no they seem to continue to get progressively more stupid the more I explain it.
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  13. It was the head of Border Patrol that changed policies to require a warrant or consent by Greyhound. Greyhound just decided to not give consent when given the choice.
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  14.  @dabronx340  were you pulled over due to reasonable suspicion. Border Patrol has been stopping detaining and searching charter buses without reasonable suspicion and probable cause. That is a violation of the constitution and Border Patrol has admitted this and that was why they changed the policy. Why is it that no one on the Right commenting in here understand that or care that law enforcement is violating constitutional rights. In addition they want to boycott Greyhound for protecting their rights under the constitution.
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  15.  @dabronx340  what part of a federal memo issued by the head of the Border Patrol on January 28 to stop the unwritten policy of searching private property without consent or a warrant while claiming they were violating constitutional protections, do you not understand?
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  16. Yep just like a useful idiot you dismiss 4th amendment protection with a simple false narrative driven by Fox News. It was Border Patrol that changed the policy Greyhound just agreed to the change and exercised its constitutional rights to require a warrant of searches of private property.
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  17. @Bill Randleman like I said your minority opinion that has no basis in reality doesn't matter so stop acting as if it does. I don't care
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  18. why are there only about three of us that understand this?
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  19. Because ICE was the one who changed the policy as it was violating the 4th amendment.
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  20.  @blackgokuquest  fake news. It's Fox dude. Go read the news report it's been repeated in almost every media source. It was Border Patrol that changed the policy and gave Greyhound the choice to give consent or require a warrant. Greyhound just announced they wanted a warrant. The old policy was violating charter companies 4th amendment rights and that's why they changed it.
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  21. I find it interesting that you only have half of the story posted and that you are trying to justify big government to bypass 4th amendment constitutional protections of Greyhound property. Can you define full context?
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  22.  @mypronounismaster4450  Does Cintas supply brown shirts for you or do you have to supply your own? Just admit that violating the 4th amendment is bad idea stop looking for justification to continue a false narrative.
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  23. 4th amendment
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  24.  @jomamma1750  Border Patrol changed that policy as it was violating the 4th.
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  25.  @jomamma1750  January 28th the head of Border Patrol sent a memo to agents requiring a warrant or consent from charter bus companies to search. And it's old unwritten policy was violating the 4th amendment. Greyhound announced that their standing position was not to give consent but to ask for a warrant. Your information is wrong. A TERRY stop requires reasonable suspicion. Random stops of charter buses by Border Patrol do not have reasonable suspicion. Neither do bus terminals that are off limits to anyone without a ticket.
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  26. And a warrant also requires reasonable suspicion in advance.
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  27. Another republican shredding constitutional rights.
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  28. Then why did the Border Patrol changed their policy and claim it violates Greyhounds constitutional rights to search without a warrant or consent? All Greyhound did was decide to not give consent when given a choice by Border Patrol.
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  29. Warren is correct the rest of you are clueless. It was Border Patrol that changed the policy because the unwritten policy was in violation of constitutional protections of Americans. Learn to read and learn the laws that protect us instead of cheering when they are being violated.
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  30.  @tmcche7881  that's not how PC works there has to be responsible suspicion for Border Patrol to stop. You can't just pull a bus over and claim probable cause. Try and at least have some understand of how our laws and constitution works before making silly statements.
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  31.  @mypronounismaster4450  look it up I'm not your dictionary.
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  32.  @mypronounismaster4450  Sorry was just waking up when I saw your original post. "Reasonable" suspicion, I allow my phone to auto corrects sometimes and didn't notice the error thank you.
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  33.  @mypronounismaster4450  Yes I can.
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  34.  @mypronounismaster4450  As with most on the right you seem unable to grasp the details of the story from your last comment. This isn't about buses crossing the border and it's not necessarily about immigration.
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  35.  @mypronounismaster4450  Is it legal for a Border Patrol agents to enter a restricted area of a private business without a warrant or consent in, for example, the state of Kansas?
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  36.  @mypronounismaster4450  From USA today and and several hundred media outlets on the internet. The memo obtained by the AP was dated Jan. 28, addressed to all chief patrol agents and signed by then-Border Patrol Chief Carla Provost just before she retired. It confirms the legal position that Greyhound's critics have taken: that the Constitution's Fourth Amendment prevents agents from boarding buses and questioning passengers without a warrant or the consent of the company. “When transportation checks occur on a bus at non-checkpoint locations, the agent must demonstrate that he or she gained access to the bus with the consent of the company’s owner or one of the company’s employees,” the memo states. An agent's actions while on the bus "would not cause a reasonable person to believe that he or she is unable to terminate the encounter with the agent.”
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  37.  @mypronounismaster4450  ah yes the deflection into word salad when you can't excuse your support for warrant less searches out side of Border Patrol jurisdiction that violate the 4th amendment. Even with Border Patrol in agreement keep up the fight as your only pursuit is to disagree and try win a fight with the left. Where is the right wing support for limited government taking away freedoms from Americans?
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  38.  @mypronounismaster4450  "big business or big government, who do you want to define your terms?" The constitution is what I want to define the terms that is the entire point and seems to go over your head.
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  39. Remember that line from Star Wars. "So this is how liberty dies with thunderous applause". That's what we have from the far right now.
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  40. They didn't the fed change their policy and now have to have a warrant or ask consent. Greyhound just agreed to not give consent without a warrant. Not sure why the Right is refusing to agree with Constitutional protections for Americans.
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  41. Time to remove Republicans from power before we all lose our Constitutional rights.
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  42. Not how a warrant works.
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  43. It amazes me a no one on the Right has a clue what they're talking about.
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  44. Fake news. Astounding how members of the so called party of law and order and constitutional protections is so quick to dismiss them to build a false narrative.
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  45. Nope. Not only is it legal it was a change in federal policy as it violates the constitution.
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  46.  @tynao2029  um no not how our laws work.
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  47. according to Border patrol who changed their policy they do need a warrant or consent from Greyhound.
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  48.  @smokey689  yes the point of this entire story isn't about immigration it's about violating the fourth amendment.
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  49. Wrong
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