Comments by "Andrea M" (@H3CL) on "Johnny Harris"
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@budimansinaga7706 No, they don't. If you did the math, a 3000 miles high sun would never go below a certain angle, yet we all see it reach the Horizon and disappear bottom up. You simply cannot dispute this. From my location, when the sun is the farthest away, at midnight in the winter solstice, it would be at 18.9 degrees with the horizontal, which is way higher that the tallest obstacle I would have in the way. Face it, basic math destroys flat earth, and you don't know how perspective really works. And no, you don't feel a constant speed, you can test this easily by yourself. Do you feel constantly pushed against the seat of an airplane going 500mph? NO, you don't, because you only feel accelerations, but you deliberately dismiss this evidence because, once again, it destroys your model.
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@manyjacob5761 You have a very interesting concept of scientific fact. First of all, a theory in science is NOT a hypothesis, as a matter of fact, a theory is even stronger than a law. The term theory in science has a very different meaning than in common language, so you are already misusing it. Gravity has been proven in 2015, it has been detected and measured, but unfortunately not with the tools you have in your shed, so sorry if you cannot repeat the experiment or understand the math behind it. Yes, technically it is not a force, but it can be considered and measured as one. If you cannot grasp this concept, it is not my problem. If you are about to say that experiment was a hoax, it is not my problem.
The level instrument works with gravity and since the gravity vector always points towards the center of the Earth, it will show level everywhere. There are plenty of videos showing how far away ships disappear bottom first, that already shows curvature. I am really sorry if our planet is too big for this to be seen with your own eyes. You are just part of a cult.
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@manyjacob5761 No, I am not saying that it is true because I am unable to detect it, I am saying it is true because it makes sense with everything else I have studied, including the shape of the Earth. Gravity is the ability of a large mass to bend space-time, to put it simply, and I don't find that hard to believe. There are people who dedicated their lives to study and make experiments to come to this conclusion, I am certainly not going to listen to some people on the internet who say they have a different view without being anything more than a mechanic or so. I am not a physicist so my knowledge about gravity is limited, but it's the glue that keeps everything together. The density HYPOTHESIS that Flat Earthers use to justify why things fall "down" is provable wrong and has been, muptiple times. The Earth is simply not flat, I am a commercial pilot and I have seen the effects of curvature and spin, just like every other pilot in the world.
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@manyjacob5761 Alright then, I am not an expert with Gravity, I know they were able to detect and measure gravitational waves in 2015, don't know how, I am just going to trust the experts.
When it comes to density, it does not work as it is not a force. You need a force to make mass accelerate, like the basic equation says. The atmosphere itself already disproves this hypothesis as it gets denser the closer you are to the surface, it could not happen just with density, you need a force (or something that acts like one) to pull it towards the ground in order to obtain the pressure gradient. Then, clouds are denser than air, yet they float. How is this possible?
I did not mean I saw the curve, I did not fly high enough, but the behavior of gyroscopic instruments and the way navigation works already disproves the flatness of Earth.
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@manyjacob5761 First of all, being a "Globie" does not mean being right all the time, so you might as well have copied and pasted what an idiot said. I don't accept everything people tell me just because they believe the Earth is round, that just idiotic to assume. Yes, I do "blindly" accept what someone who dedicated his own life to studying and researching physics tells me, because he knows more than me, just like I accept what my doctor tells me when I ask for his advice, because he studied the human body much more in depth than I did in high school, and that is enough. I do not have a degree in medical science, so HIS logic is probably much more useful than MINE. And here we are at the same old point brought up by you people, defenders of the "critical thinking" and "using you own logic" and "have an open mind" and bla bla bla all that sh!t. It is just a lame excuse, nothing more. You are talking about astrophysics, something that, I repeat, goes well beyond your comprehension (I can tell by the way you say things, like "measuring light years by time", it makes no sense at all) and your own logic brings you to conclusions that DO NOT apply to reality, like the example of clouds that I gave you and that YOU totally misinterpreted because, as always, you are only capable of grasping what you want to grasp. I NEVER said clouds float because gravity, I was saying it already disproves your hypothesis of density because they should fall "down", being in a medium that is less dense. As for the latter example, you don't even know what a pressure gradient is, because you would not explain it simply with density. Air is within his own medium, has no reason to be denser close to the surface, unless a force acts on it, period. Lastly, If you gained your "knowledge" from some kind of book, then it is no longer your own logic, is it? You just contradicted yourself. You people simply live in your own magical world where everybody else is just a sheep and you and only you have the real answers BECAUSE YOU THINK FOR YOURSELVES (almost), which is why we never find flat Earthers having important jobs, programming GPS, flying airplanes, building radio systems or just doing something useful to society. Good luck to YOU.
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@manyjacob5761 Same old story here again, you people just trying to quote something you read or someone else said, without being able to fully use it as a passable argument: (tip: this... Tip: that... Pathetic). Again, you are not using your own logic, you are using someone else's, you are a sheep too. And if you truly understood what that book says, you would contradict me using full sentences, not ridiculous tips. Water has three phases, the gasses that make up the atmosphere have the same ratio everywhere, so what you said is ridiculous but yeah, that magical book has a different perspective wow! What if I wrote a book that says why the speed of light is 3 m/s? Would you believe what I have to say just because I wrote a book? You are a living example of how easy it is to manipulate ignorant people.
And again, nice way to tap out, pal.
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@manyjacob5761 Again, it is the same old lame excuse you people always use to feel special, like I already said. You can do as much research as you want, but if you come to conclusions that are NOT consistent with reality in EVERY SINGLE PART of it, then you wasted your precious time. No, what is dumb is questioning what the real experts say, you only do so when you fear the complexity of the universe we live in, like you people do. I guess you don't even have a degree, it would be inconsistent with your point of view. Imagine this, you dedicate your own life to experimenting and researching and when you come to your precious conclusion, someone walks up to you and says "well, this is pretty but I have a different view" or "Yes, but I read something else on the internet", what would people tell him? That they respect his different conclusion because he used his own logic in 20 minutes? No, they are gonna bless his heart and pat him on the head.
Where should we go from here then? Should we abolish schools because every book has been written by other people? Should we teach children to start over new with each end every subject just because it is more important to use their own brain and logic? Yeah, stick with your alternative solutions, champion, and please, do not procreate.
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