Comments by "Gaza is not Amalek" (@Ass_of_Amalek) on "Tracking the hostages taken from Israel by Hamas" video.

  1. ​ @Humannondancer  really? shani louk on the truck bed was one of the most commonly broadcast uncensored videos. what it shows is her looking non-definitively dead. she lies face-down, motionless and certainly unconscious, with her hair caked in an amount of blood that does not look like a lethal injury (head wounds generally bleed very heavily) and the rest of her body showing no lethal-looking injuries but arguably a dead-looking grey skin tone. the gruesome part (besides her state of undress) is that one leg is certainly broken and twisted horribly, and one arm may also be, but those would not be immediately fatal injuries - but I reckon they were serious enough to have required urgent medical care to avoid death of an intensity that she is unlikely to have received. the family's claims of proof of life seem overly optimistic/grasping at straws. they first mentioned that her credit card was "used" in gaza, but as far as I'm aware did not specify if it was just a logged attempt or a successful use with the correct PIN - and if the user did have the PIN, this could simply be because shani was forced to reveal it before being killed, or even because she wrote it down somewhere in her wallet (I hear some people do that). a few days later, the family claimed to have gotten word from someone they trust of shani being treated in a specific hospital in gaza very close to the location where the credit card was used. but they did not give a reason for why they take the claim to be credible, so it could well be a scam, and I don't know if they previously specified the location of the credit card use. if they had not, it could still be a scam conducted by someone connected to the credit card use, who heard of the family finding out about the credit card use, and concocted the story about the hospital that happened to be closest. personally, I don't find the claim that a hostage would be held in a hospital to be plausible, as that would mean having many witnesses and a very uncontrollable risk of an israeli rescue raid. I would expect hamas to rather bring medical workers into the hideouts (probably transported blindfolded). and given so many hostages, they probably generally did not make medical treatment efforts as big as what shani louk would have needed if she still was alive on that truckbed. they mostly would have just avoided confirming any hostage deaths. they even loaded up already dead corpses and brought them to gaza presumably to pretend they were taken alive, and have not made any attempt to provide proof of life beyond a handful of hostages. a large number of them are dead and they're deliberately keeping it ambiguous. as long as they stick to mostly not providing proof of life, the unconfirmed dead are about as useful as the actual living hostages. however one could speculate that given the international attention, they likely would have provided proof of shani being alive by now if she was, as it would serve their purpose of increasing the hope for other wounded to have been kept alive (like the first proof of life video they did release of a different wounded young woman - using shani for that would have been an obvious choice if it had been possible). I give her a 10% chance of being alive. and really I don't think that anyone but her friends and family trying to be hopeful saw that video and did not get the impression that she was dead.
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